Open Forum: March 23, 2019

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  1. vr

    Kevin Williamson on the NZ gun confiscation law — Demagoguery Is Not Leadership

  2. lotocoti

    14 year jail sentences for reading and/or passing on …

    But you can still make a buck from some Austrian’s best seller.

  3. Muddy

    Elle
    #2969421, posted on March 25, 2019 at 9:45 am

    Here’s the video, Lizzie.
    At 3:17 Koch goes cray cray.
    Link

    Thanks, Elle. I don’t normally watch TV, but I just clicked on that and watched a short snippet, which was enough. David Koch reaches forward quite a distance towards Pauline Hanson at one point, which I would have regarded as a threat had I been in Pauline’s position. (I’m actually not a big fan of Hanson and One Nation). I’ll write nothing about that Hinch f#ckwit, if only to take care of my blood pressure.

    From what little I watched, Pauline did very well to retain her composure. I would have been tempted to use my chair for a purpose it probably wasn’t designed for.

  4. Leigh Lowe

    Snoopy

    #2969420, posted on March 25, 2019 at 9:44 am

    I’ll bet Hillary’s liquor cabinet is getting a hammering.

    Cabinet?
    She’s got mains pressure gin plumbed into every room.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    Hard to believe that a Nothing-burger can cause so much heartburn.

  6. Boambee John

    Re Sandy Hook, perhaps Numbers can clarify, but it is my understanding that many schools in the US are “gun free zones”. Given the inevitable time it takes for police to respond to an emergency call, can Numbers guarantee that the presence of a licensed teacher with a firearm would NOT have reduced the number of casualties?

    On the subject of police response times, the actions of the sherrif’s officers at the Florida school shooting also suggests that a licensed, armed, teacher would have been more useful than the official response.

  7. lotocoti

    Monday CatQuiz.
    Who said:
    There is no doubt now that it is going to be proven that Trump is guilty of significant crimes.

  8. thefrollickingmole

    This is what they are reduced to to stave off the cognitive dissonance..
    Youd need a heart of stone not to laugh.

    and by his overt willingness to make money off his presidency by having foreign diplomats stay at his Washington hotel, and promoting his various golf clubs.

    ..
    Theres heaps more “ORANGE MAN BAD”!!! there its a triumph of broken dreams.

    In all these ways, Trump undermined core values of our democracy.

  9. cohenite

    Absolute rubbish.

    Freeing up access to weapons simply increases the rate and frequency of these slaughters.
    Why do you think the USA has at least one mass shooting occurring every 64 days since 2011?

    That’s a lie which is what is to be expected from a leftie grub like you numbers.

    The US rate of gun crime is continually misrepresented by grubs of the left who despise individual rights including the greatest of those rights enshrined in the 1st and 2nd Amendments.

    Once you take away black and Hispanic gun crime and remove certain demorat cities which have very strict gun laws, the rate of US gun crime is equivalent to Australia’s. Incidentally since white pickets johnny removed certain guns from Australians gun ownership in Australia has greatly increased while simultaneously gun crime has greatly fallen except in certain muslim dominated suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne.

    So numbers go away and wipe the shit smear off your face.

  10. Arky

    This Russia collusion hysteria is up there with the climate hysteria as one of the most bizarre episodes in history.
    Future generations will look back on this time as one of inexplicable stupidity.

  11. Old School Conservative

    Elle
    #2969421, posted on March 25, 2019 at 9:45 am
    Here’s the video, Lizzie.

    Here’s a better TV stoush.

  12. jo

    lotocoti
    #2969446, posted on March 25, 2019 at 10:02 am

    Monday CatQuiz.
    Who said:
    There is no doubt now that it is going to be proven that Trump is guilty of significant crimes.

    Rakemeister. Second guess spudpeeler.

  13. DrBeauGan

    Here’s the video, Lizzie.
    At 3:17 Koch goes cray cray.
    Link

    I thought Hanson did a good job of sticking up for herself, and kept to common sense answers against emotional rhetoric from a couple of prancing nancies.

  14. Percy Popinjay

    Future generations will look back on this time as one of inexplicable stupidity.

    Speaking of, any sightings of poor ol’ m0nty? He must be feeling really down in the dumps.

  15. Confused Old Misfit

    Kevin Williamson on the NZ gun confiscation law — Demagoguery Is Not Leadership

    Takes some one one the other side of the Pacific to see Ardern for what she is.

  16. stackja

    Arky
    #2969451, posted on March 25, 2019 at 10:03 am
    This Russia collusion hysteria is up there with the climate hysteria as one of the most bizarre episodes in history.
    Future generations will look back on this time as one of inexplicable stupidity.

    Dutch people tiptoed thru the tulips.

  17. Anthony

    How many SC’s have been appointed by POTUS this morning? Mueller may have acted like Pontius Pilate but POTUS will be acting more like King Herod when he takes his revenge.

  18. thefrollickingmole

    Arky
    #2969451, posted on March 25, 2019 at 10:03 am
    This Russia collusion hysteria is up there with the climate hysteria as one of the most bizarre episodes in history.
    Future generations will look back on this time as one of inexplicable stupidity.

    Bath salts & Ketamine.
    Thats my go to excuse for future generations.

    Anyway we are all dead in 11 years remember, frymageddon will be upon us.

  19. struth

    SNIFFY can’t figure out why they always chose gun fee zones to shoot up rather than head over to the local gun club and start firing.

    Always the defenceless school, neve the ifle ange/gun club.

    And what can never be calculated is the crimes that did not occur because criminals had to take into consideration their planned victims, may well be armed.

    Shall we look at the Islamic terrorism and killings per capita between the USA and Europe, and Australia?

  20. Fisky

    M0000000ntyyyyyy! Yooohooo!

  21. mh

    NEW ZEALAND CALLER CLAIMS GOVT HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO UNITED NATIONS

    Gun confiscation plan part of larger global government project

    https://www.infowars.com/new-zealand-caller-claims-govt-has-been-turned-over-to-united-nations/

  22. dover_beach

    Mueller and his team are prosecutors. When they investigate, they do so in order to prosecute. Exonerating isn’t within their remit. If it were they’d be known as exonerators. The clue’s in the job title. Duh.

    Quite, but it is worse than that. Trump and his advisors are presumed to be innocent so an investigation that leads to no indictments means that they do not even need exoneration. Convictions require exoneration.

  23. struth

    If Ardern was genuine she’d not just stick a tea towel on he head, she’d go the whole FGM route, or at least let her hubby punish her correctly with a stick.

  24. Confused Old Misfit

    And what can never be calculated is the crimes that did not occur because criminals had to take into consideration their planned victims, may well be armed.

    But good, responsible citizens must have there freedoms curtailed because an evil, irresponsible citizen might commit a crime.
    How stupid can legislators get?
    Wait…some of them have no more intelligence than numbers, the KP King.

  25. stackja

    struth
    #2969461, posted on March 25, 2019 at 10:10 am

    Curtis Culwell Center attack
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Curtis Culwell Center attack was carried out by two Islamic extremists from Arizona who attacked officers with gunfire at the entrance to an exhibit featuring cartoon images of Muhammad at the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland, Texas on May 3, 2015.[9] The attackers shot an unarmed Garland Independent School District (GISD) security officer in the ankle.[10][11] Shortly after opening fire, both attackers were shot and killed by an off-duty Garland police officer.[12]

    The FBI had been monitoring the two attackers for years and an undercover agent was right behind them when the first shots were fired.[13] The injured security guard filed a lawsuit against the FBI in October 2017, claiming the FBI was partially responsible for his injuries.[11][14]

  26. thefrollickingmole

    Oh and i see the turd who did the NZ killings was a registered and checked firearms owner.

    Nicely done NZ/Aus security services…

  27. feelthebern

    It should never be illegal to read anything.

  28. dover_beach

    Monty releases his statement to the media following the release of the Mueller report.

  29. feelthebern

    So considering a bunch of us have admitted here at the Cat to reading the manifesto & critiquing the hell out of it, does that mean we go to the crowbar motel if we ever go to NZ?

  30. Mother Lode

    From what little I watched, Pauline did very well to retain her composure.

    Unlike the left who, cosset and protect each other at every opportunity, Pauline will have has had to develop a thick skin and self-control.

    I seem to remember reading a line comparing two saplings: One growing in a hollow with mild climate and rains, the other growing atop a wind and storm blasted hill. The former will grow straight and luxuriant enough, but with no toughness about it. If the latter survives it will be gnarled, have tears in its bark, have had boughs torn from it, but what remains will be strong indeed.

  31. Confused Old Misfit

    feelthebern
    #2969479, posted on March 25, 2019 at 10:19 am

    Suppose they extradite us!

  32. 1735099

    Black and Hispanic gun crime

    The Columbine and Sandy Hook shooters were neither black nor Hispanic.
    You can bleat all you like about race, but it’s not the problem.
    Access to high powered semi autos is the elephant in the room.

    BTW, gratuitous abuse demeans the abuser, not the abused.

  33. 1735099

    They always choose a gun free zone

    Australia is a gun free zone.
    Pray tell, old mate, when we had our last school massacre.

  34. areff

    At about the same time ANU was rejecting the Ramsay Centre’s money and philosophy it was paying James Clapper to explain America to young minds. Clapper addressed the National Press Club in June, 2017, when he stoked the local hacks’ inclination to regard Trump as the spawn of Satan. Interestingly, the Q&A session produced this exchange. It seems extraordinarily silly in view of Mueller’s now-confirmed nothingburger (emphasis added):

    MARK KENNY FROM FAIRFAX MEDIA: Thank you for your address. In journalism, there’s a general refrain often said to people that something is “not Watergate”. The test is that, obviously, Watergate is the mother of all stories, it brought down a US President. I’m wondering what do you think of the critical difference between Watergate, which was the break-in at the Democratic National Headquarters and the revelations we see today of people in the Trump team were apparently approached by Russian connections, offered information in relation to Democratic Party information in relation to voter turnout, modelling and the like. And Vice President Mike Pence and John McCain and now yourself have come here talking about the depth of the relationship. Talking about the viability or the essential strength of that relationship and the institutional basis of it, how important is it when Americans seemed to have walked away, in a sense, from their own institutional basis?

    JAMES CLAPPER: … I lived through Watergate. I was on active duty then in Air Force, I was a young officer. It was a scary time. It was against the backdrop of the post-Vietnam trauma as well which seemed to, at least in my memory, amplify the crisis in our system with Watergate.

    I have to say, though, I think when you compare the two that Watergate pales really, in my view, compared to what we’re confronting now.

    The assembled scribblers lapped it up. Of course they did.

  35. Arky

    That woman is a pimple on the arse

    ..

    Fatty 5D

    ..

    gratuitous abuse demeans the abuser, not the abused.

  36. OldOzzie

    MODEL BEHAVIOUR

    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun
    March 24, 2019 8:15pm

    Then:

    Adau Mornyang has called for South Sudanese community leaders and parents to take control of the teens who have been involved in violent crime.

    Ms Mornyang, 22, came to Australia as a refugee from South Sudan…

    She plans to enter the Miss World competition this year and was not afraid to speak out and be a role model for her community.

    “They need someone to look up to,” she said.

    “There is more to life then stealing, robbing, causing people trauma.”

    She said the South Sudanese community needed to integrate more.

    Now:

    A prominent model and Miss Australia finalist faces a possible 21 years in an American jail after drunkenly attacking an attendant on a flight from Melbourne to Los Angeles.

    Adau Mornyang, 24, will be sentenced in June over the assault on the January flight, which a US air marshal described as “the most severe he has encountered in his ten years” on the job.

    New York-based Mornyang, who is from Victoria, was accused of slapping a steward in the face and kicking an air marshal in the chest after she was refused alcohol service aboard United Flight 99 on January 21.

    She was found guilty after a trial in Los Angeles federal court of assault and interference with a flight attendant, but acquitted of assaulting the marshal.

    Meanwhile:

    A man is in a critical condition after being attacked by a group of men and hit with a weapon this morning in inner Melbourne.

    Acting Detective Sergeant Simon Watts said the victim had been attacked by a group of African males after he stepped out of a car in busy King St about 4.30am today.

  37. stackja

    2GB reports ‘Ray H told by Sam D that Daley will stay leader until BS election.’

    So voters are expected to fall for this?

  38. Knuckle Dragger

    Best you divert to yet another failed narrative, spastic herder.

    All the ones you’ve tried so far today have been buried, much like most of Killary’s organs.

  39. feelthebern

    39 people shot at Columbine.
    13 dead (including the 2 freaks).
    Happened once.

    58 people shot in Chicago on the weekend.
    6 of them died.
    Happens. Every. Single. Weekend.

    Access to hand guns is the biggest issue in the US.

  40. Leigh Lowe

    C.L. at 9:47.
    The video montage is a cracker.
    They are all so earnest, adopting the demeanour “for the sake off the country I hope not, but it does look like Trump is going to jail”.
    Except Maxine.
    She is just full-on batshit crazy.

  41. dover_beach

    Demagoguery Is Not Leadership

    He’s right, they stitched-up gun ban legislation when the dead had not even been buried yet.

  42. MatrixTransform

    Australia is a gun free zone.

    no it isnt

    Pray tell, old mate, when we had our last school massacre.

    how many shootings in Melbourne this month?

    Go ahead and explain Chicago’s statistics. They’re ‘gun free’ too aren’t they?

  43. dover_beach

    Pray tell, old mate, when we had our last school massacre.

    We had no ‘school massacres’ before or after Howard’s legislation. Take off your clown nose.

  44. Snoopy

    Australia is a gun free zone

    Really?

  45. Arky

    Pray tell, old mate, when we had our last school massacre.

    Monash University shooting
    21 October 2002
    Melbourne, Victoria
    2
    5
    Mass shooting attack by Huan Yun “Allen” Xiang.

  46. feelthebern

    Access to hand guns is the biggest issue in the US.

    I’ll clarify my comment.
    Access to unregistered hand guns is the biggest issue in the US.

  47. MatrixTransform

    this will be fun bashing Numbers with numbers.

    bring it on soft cock

  48. bespoke

    I wounder what the ex students of 1735099’s would think of his support of people that would have them dissembled at birth.

  49. OldOzzie

    stackja
    #2969489, posted on March 25, 2019 at 10:29 am

    2GB reports ‘Ray H told by Sam D that Daley will stay leader until BS election.’

    So voters are expected to fall for this?

    Alan Jones on Saturday Night Election Coverage said (surprise, surprise) Daley had to go and he nominated Chris Minns Labor Member fo Kogarah, who was also on the Election Night Panel, as replacement for Michael Daley

    I must say I was impressed with Chris Minns from what I saw and heard

  50. feelthebern

    Because gun control & voter ID are two very related issues, you will never see meaningful progress in the US.
    This is why Obama, when he had his 2 year window with the super majority did nothing.
    Keep in mind it was Trump that banned bump stocks, not Obama.

    Just like illegal immigration is liked by Dems & big Big Business, you will never see meaningful progress.
    That’s why the deep state really hates the idea of a Wall.

  51. Bruce of Newcastle

    I find it odd that when an extremist shot dead 50 muslims the NZ Government banned the shooter’s manifesto, but when another extremist shot dead 50 gay people there were no calls to ban his 1,400 year old manifesto.

    Ok, no I don’t find it odd. Just unjust.

  52. feelthebern

    I must say I was impressed with Chris Minns from what I saw and heard

    Maybe he is.
    But Jodi McKay will be the opposition leader at the next state election.

  53. dover_beach

    Pray tell, old mate, when we had our last school massacre.

    Monash University shooting
    21 October 2002
    Melbourne, Victoria

    So if you include university with school, things don’t look good for the post-Howard gun laws era.

  54. Farmer Gez

    Faine ABC 774 now claims that Russia sought to destabilise the US elections and backed Trump because Hillary would take Putin head on.
    One very deluded chihuahua.

  55. feelthebern

    Even though it’s a circus, you really need an outsider to get anything done.
    Any of these Washington cronies make a big deal about everything, but are really about the status quo.
    If they change the status quo, it’s all about getting the snout deeper in the trough.
    Eg, Obama-care.

  56. OldOzzie

    CHRISTCHURCH: DO THE GREENS HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS?

    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun

    Greens should ask themselves if they have blood on their hands

    The massacre of Muslims in Christchurch by a white Australian racist should make the Greens ask themselves: do they have blood on their hands?

    Right now, it seems the Greens are trying to profit from this horror by blaming everyone but themselves.

    Leader Richard Di Natale says the media here bears “some responsibility” by spreading “hate”, and his Victorian Women’s Network accused Prime Minister Scott Morrison of having “blood on your hands”.

    But shouldn’t the Greens — ultimate political peddlers of hate — examine their own conscience first?

    What did Di Natale think would happen when his Greens promoted their toxic identity politics?

    Didn’t he see that encouraging migrants, Aborigines, Muslims and others to identify by their “race” or ethnicity would force some threatened whites to identify by their own?

    Didn’t he realise he’d add to these tensions by seeming to pick a side — by trashing Australia Day as a symbol of “ongoing genocide”, calling for an advisory parliament elected only by Aborigines, and having his party smear one of our finest soldiers, Jim Molan, as a “war criminal” when fighting Islamists?

    How did he think some white loser might react to the Greens screaming down politicians such as One Nation’s Pauline Hanson for having said it was “OK to be white”? Didn’t he ask himself how some marginalised white men — as marginalised as our jihadist recruits — might feel to hear the Greens also demand much weaker borders, while vilifying as “racists” anyone who complained or expressed concern about Islamist terrorism?

    Didn’t he ask how it sounded when he (rightly) denounced the massacre of Muslims in Christchurch, yet said nothing about the deadly Islamist bombing of a Christian church in the Philippines last January, the slaughter of hundreds of Nigerian Christians this past month, the murder of three Dutch civilians by a Turkish immigrant last week or even the execution of gay men by the Islamic State?

    To such questions, Di Natale on my show said only: “Nice try.”

    And will Di Natale finally take some responsibility for our new culture of political violence?

    Consider the recent rise of Left-wing violence, not least by Antifa, which almost seems the paramilitary wing of the green movement.

    Former prime minister Tony Abbott was headbutted in the street by a Leftist, and I was physically attacked at a book launch by two masked Antifa supporters. People trying to hear speeches by libertarian Milo Yiannopoulos, Dutch politician Geert Wilders and conservative senator Cory Bernardi have been attacked by Leftists, including Greens supporters.

    Meanwhile, a Muslim radical who ordered my killing has been jailed, threats from another Muslim forced me to evacuate my family from home, pedestrians outside my office need bollards for protection from terrorists, and guards were posted inside my office last week against potential Leftist extremists.

    To all this, Di Natale has not said a word of protest. In fact, when a student this month physically assaulted far-Right senator Fraser Anning, Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young called him a “hero”. The Victorian Greens Women’s Network suggested people next throw eggs at me and the Prime Minister.

    When I pushed Di Natale on this incitement last week, his response was telling: “I don’t approve of any form of violence but to draw some moral equivalent to the death of 50 innocent people and a member of our parliament being egged … is a scary insight.”

    Of course, I drew no such equivalence. The real “scary insight” was Di Natale’s apparent implication that anything short of shooting someone his Greens hated wasn’t so bad. His newest candidate, lawyer Julian Burnside, has even urged children to stop Morrison “in the street and spit on his shoes”.

    The truth is the Greens are absolutists — “there is only one side”, Di Natale told me — and therefore feed on division and hatred.

    As veteran candidate Alex Bhathal said on quitting the Greens, the party has a bullying culture, “brutal, but also sanctimonious”.

    But let me be what the Greens are not: Fair.

    There is actually little evidence that Australia’s political debate influenced the alleged Christchurch killer, who describes himself as an “eco-fascist” who most admires China.

    I don’t call the Greens guilty.

    The alleged killer spent just 45 days in Australia in the past three years, and wrote that his views were “dramatically changed” by what he instead witnessed while travelling in Europe — Muslim immigration and Islamist terrorism, especially an attack on Stockholm.

    But when did these tribal Greens, in love with hate, care about facts, or the savagery they breed?

  57. 1735099

    If you include university

    A tragedy, but not a “massacre” by any definition. Two killed, five injured.
    Whereas the country with access to powerful semi-autos has school slaughters with monotonous regularity averaging once every 65 days.
    Things look very good in the post-Howard gun laws era, and now the Kiwis have begun to address the problem. It’s a great shame that it took a slaughter in a mosque to motivate them.

  58. ZK2A:

    I used to spend all my money on fast cars, whisky and attempting to relieve young ladies – and some who were old enough to know better – of the burden of their chastity.
    I now spend all my money on comfortable walking shoes, scratch resistant reading glasses, and pharmasist’s bills for the treatment of arthritis. There’s something going on here, I’m not sure what is is.

    The dreadful thing about this is that I spend more money at 66 on life enhancing drugs than when I was 21.
    Sad but true.

  59. Arky

    Wikipedia lists 26 massacres in Australia during the 22 years since Port Arthur.
    It lists 22 massacres in the 22 years prior to Port Arthur.
    In other words: Howard gun laws did nothing to prevent massacres, with or without firearms.

  60. 1735099

    I wonder what the students of 1735099 would think of his support

    Show me where I have supported abortion.
    Given that this is allegedly a “libertarian” blog, I would love to know where the actual supporters of personal liberty stand on the issue.

  61. struth

    The last shooting in our schools occurred just the other day.
    No one was hit because our kids don’t go to school, they were all down at a political rally organised by their global socialist teachers.

    Yet in Australia we are averaging more gun deaths per year now, than we were before Pt Arthur.
    Around 250 a year, and the criminal use is way up.
    See, numbers, the school shoot ups comparison only applies to the USA, because criminals here know they don’t need to go to a school.
    Their victims are unnarmed everywhere.

    You’re anti self defence, you don’t seem to mind the government and criminals armed to the teeth.
    it’s not about safety, it’s about a power grab, and that’s why the shooters and fishers did so well in NSW.
    The punters besides the hard core firearms mobs are waking up to your side’s complete dishonesty about your motivation for confiscation for only the law abiding.

  62. twostix

    Firstly Mueller found Russia was actively and comprehensively trying to interfere in the 2016 US election. Russia wanted Trump to win and Hillary Clinton to lose.

    The Russian FSB gave the Clinton campaign info for the pissgate dossier.

    The only people colluding with foreign powers were the Clinton campaign.

    Charitably we can say they were Russian stooges. Realistically they are traitors who asked their maaaates in the FBI, FSB, MI5 and Australian beaucracy to crush this ugly populist upstart or “we’re all going to hang”.

  63. Arky

    By the way, that Wikipedia page indicates there have been more massacres in Australia in the last twenty years than in the entire first hundred years of Australian settlement.

  64. 1735099

    In other words

    You wouldn’t know, but a per capita comparison of deaths in the USA through mass shootings with those in Australia is a reasonable guide.
    I challenge you to make that comparison and post it.

  65. Eyrie

    “58 people shot in Chicago on the weekend.
    6 of them died.”
    Now that is just piss poor marksmanship.

  66. Mother Lode

    I have no doubt the New Zealand left had a list of policies they wanted to bring in but were worried about the political fall out.

    In essence the mass of changes can be summed up as “Someone abused a freedom, therefore that freedom is to be withdrawn from you all. And not just the freedoms you are expect.”

    This shooting at the mosques has breached the dam and all their people-corralling policies are flooding out – in such a profusion there would likely be not one in ten Kiwis who know what freedoms are being lost, because some will be accompanied by fanfare and the rest quietly falling into place.

    Thing is whether anyone with a profile ready to defend a right peacefully enjoyed for generations when it has a day of bad press. Will someone stand up and point that not all gun owners are criminals, that 99.99% have done nothing wrong and will do nothing wrong, so why are all people being punished for the misdeed of one? That this is a knee-jerk reaction – is that how they want the country run?

  67. cohenite

    Very good article by bolta about the vile hypocrisy and culpability of the green filth like dinutala and our resident shit puppet numbers who says:

    The Columbine and Sandy Hook shooters were neither black nor Hispanic.
    You can bleat all you like about race, but it’s not the problem.
    Access to high powered semi autos is the elephant in the room.

    BTW, gratuitous abuse demeans the abuser, not the abused.

    Every mass shooting by whites in the US occurred at gun free zones. The Las Vegas shocker still needs explaining inasmuch the shooter had some Islamic connections as did Tarrant.

    With the black/Hispanic rates of gun crime we are looking at institutionalised behaviour, it is part and parcel of their ethnicity and culture; white mass shootings are a product of deeply disturbed or ideologically fanatical individuals who don’t represent the values of their culture and who often have their psychosis recognised and ignored by the relevant authorities.

    Your superficial pronouncements about this issue numbers make you worthy of abuse; and that’s in addition to and apart from your unlikeable personality.

  68. bespoke

    Unless you admit to not knowing bugger all about AOC before spamming with your glowing recommendation all I can say tough luck. Late term abortion is a top priority for possessives.

  69. stackja

    Matthew Benns, Mitchell Van Homrigh, The Daily Telegraph
    17 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    This morning, Hadley admitted there were times their relationship was volatile.

    “He was a young bloke, full cheek and full of ability, through our years together we became very close — probably more like a father and son relationship and given what he had to deal with personally,” he said.

    “I tried to help him as much as I could.

    “One of the saddest parts of my broadcasting life was the end of our relationship. That came a couple of years after I was the master of ceremonies at his wedding, where he said some very generous and kind things about me, and our relationship.

    Hadley continued his apology saying that he was regretful he was not more supportive and he was sorry for any hurt he has caused.

  70. Boambee John

    Access to high powered semi autos is the elephant in the room.

    Numbers

    Can you assure us absolutely that it is impossible in high gun control areas like Washington DC and Chicago for criminals, including gang members, to gain access to high powered semi autos? Unless there is absolutely no such access, you are p1ss1ng into the wind.

  71. 1735099

    Bolt has a colossal hide.
    After promoting hate against Muslims, Aborigines and Africans for decades, and making a comfortable living out of it, he blames the Greens for a right wing massacre.
    As they say in the classics, you couldn’t make this stuff up.

  72. cohenite

    Very good article by bolta about the vile hypocrisy and culpability of the green filth and our resident puppet numbers who says:

    The Columbine and Sandy Hook shooters were neither black nor Hispanic.
    You can bleat all you like about race, but it’s not the problem.
    Access to high powered semi autos is the elephant in the room.

    BTW, gratuitous abuse demeans the abuser, not the abused.

    Every mass shooting by whites in the US occurred at gun free zones. The Las Vegas shocker still needs explaining inasmuch the shooter had some Islamic connections as did the newzealandistan shooter who spent a lot of time in turkey.

    With the black/Hispanic rates of gun crime we are looking at institutionalised behaviour, it is part and parcel of their ethnicity and culture; white mass shootings are a product of deeply disturbed or ideologically fanatical individuals who don’t represent the values of their culture and who often have their psychosis recognised and ignored by the relevant authorities.

    Your superficial pronouncements about this issue numbers make you worthy of abuse; and that’s in addition to and apart from your unlikeable personality.

  73. Boambee John

    Arky at 1027

    You just don’t understand. The fascist left does character references, only the non-fascist left does “gratuitous abuse”.

  74. Arky

    1735099

    ..
    You are either driven by facts, statistics, and a genuine attempt to find causality in an often incredibly complex world, or you are driven by emotionalism.
    I suggest all your posts today indicate that you are solely driven by your emotional responses, or else you hope to induce that in others.
    Either way, not healthy.
    There is hope.
    As someone who was, up until around 2005, anti- gun, pro- open borders and pro the welfare state, I can say if you genuinely look at the evidence, you can make real headway.
    Usually requires a shock to the system to make you realise that government is not on your side.
    That being conscripted into a war you disagreed with did not provide that shock is as mystery.

  75. twostix

    “If you see it, report it.”

    “Reporters, academics and others can apply for an exemption from the government to obtain a copy.”

    The modern western bolshevik state.

  76. twostix

    I have no doubt the New Zealand left had a list of policies they wanted to bring in but were worried about the political fall out.

    The weaponisation of the massacre in NZ to ban their opposition was perfectly executed.

    The Australian left thought they could try the same here.

    The result was three SFF members in the lower house in the NSW election.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA

  77. Arky

    You wouldn’t know, but a per capita comparison of deaths in the USA through mass shootings with those in Australia is a reasonable guide.

    ..
    No, it isn’t, and you know it isn’t, or you would make a comparison between South Africa and the USA.
    But that would completely disprove your thesis, so you won’t.

  78. struth

    Bolt has a colossal hide.
    After promoting hate against Muslims, Aborigines and Africans for decades, and making a comfortable living out of it, he blames the Greens for a right wing massacre.
    As they say in the classics, you couldn’t make this stuff up.

    You just did.

    You honestly couldn’t mention one hateful thing he has ever said and defend it as being hateful.
    He calls out identity politics, which is tuly harmful.
    You’re just a low info chanter, aren’t you SNIFFY Mc ZOMBIECHANT.

  79. notafan

    Thanks for mentioning abortion numbers

    Today we celebrate the Solemnity of the Annunciation, (not the Immaculate Conception) Christians who support abortion have to pretend that Jesus Christ was not present in Our Lady’s womb at the moment He was conceived by the Holy Spirit.

    He just another clump of cells.

  80. twostix

    NZ have been shipping their criminal classes to Australia for decades, I’m looking forward to getting a better class of criminal, the thought criminal, escaping over and living here now.

    That’ll balance things out a bit.

  81. feelthebern

    “58 people shot in Chicago on the weekend.
    6 of them died.”
    Now that is just piss poor marksmanship.

    Hard to hit anything when you are holding a hand cannon, sideways, one-handed, & shooting from a speeding vehicle.

  82. struth

    That being conscripted into a war you disagreed with did not provide that shock is as mystery.

    He hates the civilisation, not the government.
    To change the civilisation you empower the government, as he is trying to do with gun laws.
    It’s certainly working here.

  83. notafan

    Identity politics is the brainchild of the left

    You should be proud to own it

    When it comes to muslims and Africans, western distrust is entirely the result of their own behaviour.

    I don’t know so much about muslims but I do know that local Anglican and Catholic communities bent over backwards to welcome and support African immigrants, and continue to do so, clearly too many, though not all, were not ready to integrate into western society.

  84. Mother Lode

    Hang on.

    Who was in Vietnam?

  85. feelthebern

    I went looking for some gangster rap to illustrate the shooting style above mentioned but I got sidetracked with NWA.

  86. twostix

    Dear people, today is a magistic day of crushing defeat for the Australian leftwing. They:

    – Not only lost the NSW election, but right wing pro gun parties got up in the worst possible environment. – A complete and utter repudiation of the political aristocracy in this country.

    – Their most revered pope Robert Mueller, has figuratively just walked into their rainbow coloured cathedral and yelled at the top of his voice “No! There is NO god!”.

    Be on the look out for “look over there” style “arguments” today. They do not want to face the reality: the world is against them!

  87. Overburdened

    After a bit of catching up it is apparent that the other clown that haunts this thread (I accept that I am a clown. Not proud of it but at least I own my fuckwittery) needs to come to the buried shipping container I have customised.
    The clown will not learn anything and I have no ambitions to try and correct his intolerable self serving bullshit.
    It would make me feel much better to make him scream.
    This would go on for a very long time.
    No guns involved.

  88. Infidel Tiger

    Monty slept last night in the ice cream section of a convenience store.

    His blood is now 27% fudge.

  89. Old School Conservative

    1735099
    #2969533, posted on March 25, 2019 at 11:04 am
    Bolt has a colossal hide.
    After promoting hate against Muslims, Aborigines and Africans for decades

    Prove it.
    (NB the left always lies.)

  90. Elle

    I wonder if he was a bully at home.
    A foul mouthed rant in the video at the end.
    Link

  91. Infidel Tiger

    If Christchurch was a false flag attack designed to herald in rampant leftism, what would have been different about it?

    Very suspicious.

  92. twostix

    The global political establishment running dogs are on the run the world over. Their world is in free fall. Trump was end. Having lost the US and in the process of losing the UK and France, they are going to try and create holdout strongholds in small anglo countries such as NZ, Canada and Australia. Where all opposition and political thought and parties which are against them and their ideas will shortly be censored and illegal.

    Be on the lookout!

  93. 1735099

    The major issue in the US is the prevalence of firearms in the community.
    Better controls won’t fix this, but they have to start somewhere. It’s a public health issu, not a rights issue. In that sense, the gun rights proponents resemble the anti-vaxers.
    If an armed society was a safe society, they would have the lowest homicide rate in the world.
    That is demonstrably not the case.
    Freeing up access to semi-autos here won’t make our community safer, yet there are lunatics like Llyenholm who advocate that.

  94. Boambee John

    , he blames the Greens for a right wing massacre

    So eco-fascists who admire the Chinese communist government are now “right wing”?

    I suspect that Numbers uses the same definition of “right wing” as does m0nty. Anyone who disagrees with him.

  95. Oh come on

    Numbers, it is spectacularly easy to make a libertarian argument against abortion. Even a dolt like you ought to be able to manage it. Try your best!

  96. Zatara

    Now that is just piss poor marksmanship.

    I wonder why.

  97. Oh come on

    Better controls won’t fix this, but they have to start somewhere

    Numbers brings the stupid…again.

    ‘I realise this won’t work but let’s try it anyway’

  98. Arky

    lunatics like Llyenholm who advocate that.

    ..

    gratuitous abuse demeans the abuser, not the abused.

  99. Seriously, somebody named Glad Berkers wins an election?
    Is it true?

  100. twostix

    All those traitors in the global FBI / Clinton Class are going to need somewhere safe to flee to.

  101. twostix

    I wonder to what country they’ll all go?

  102. Oh come on

    There’s enough red ink splashed over Drudge to write an ALP budget.

  103. feelthebern

    If Christchurch was a false flag attack designed to herald in rampant leftism, what would have been different about it?

    Security agencies definitely knew what was going to happen.
    Impossible that he was under the radar.
    They let it happen.

  104. 1735099

    I recognise this won’t work, but let’s try it anyway

    It would work if it had bi-partisan support as it does here and in NZ.
    What’s your solution?

  105. Boambee John

    The logical (but difficult) place to start with gun control is with illegal weapons in the hands of criminals.

    Governments and their police and bureaucracy, however, are both lazy and control freaks (hint Numbers, that is why they went for conscription in 1965, rather than put extra effort into improving recruiting), so they take the easy route of attacking the law abiding so as to appear to be “doing something”, no matter how little practical impact it might have on the problem.

  106. thefrollickingmole

    Monty slept last night in the ice cream section of a convenience store.

    His blood is now 27% fudge.

    Back of his trousers 100% fudge like material…

    It’s a public health issu, not a rights issue

    So for lefties a written part of the bill of rights is something to be torn up because it gives them bad feels.

    I drove around with a rifle and shotgun in my car for decades. why didnt i shoot anyone numbers?
    Thousands, tens of thousands of Australians did the same.

    Still if he can ever square the circle of “Loves big government, didnt like when big government coerced him into uniform” he might make some progress.

    Its encouraging that his only response is to ignore that point, it must really grind his gearbox.

  107. struth

    What is very telling is they are only concerned by people owning guns in the west.
    They say they care but

    They are only concerned with gun deaths.
    Planes flying into buildings, Christians being burned alive, people being blown apart and acid, knife attacks, late term abortions, infanticide, euthanasia, crowds being run over by mussies in Semi trailers, concerts being blown up, will have them waving their arms shouting nothing to see here.

    They hate America, yet are so concerned with the death of Americans, that being beheaded in large numbers wearing orange jump suits doesn’t get them concerned in the slightest.
    The yanks deserve that, apparently.
    Brought it on themselves, the bastards, starting wars everywhere!

    But then I’m supposed to believe their crocodile tears about American gun deaths.
    And only gun deaths.
    Fuck off SNIFFY, you’re as transparent as CO2

  108. OldOzzie

    Mueller report ends conspiracy theory

    WSJ Editorial Board

    Well, so much for the claim that Donald Trump or his campaign conspired with Russians to steal the American Presidency. That conspiracy theory, which has distorted American politics for more than two years, expired in an instant on Sunday when Attorney-General William Barr delivered Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s “principal conclusions” to Congress.

    “The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or co-ordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election,” Mr Barr wrote in a four-page letter to the Judiciary Committees of the House and Senate.

    Mr Barr’s letter also said that Mr Mueller investigated the evidence of whether Mr Trump obstructed justice but made no “prosecutorial judgment.” Mr Barr said that he and Deputy Attorney-General Rod Rosenstein examined that evidence and concluded there is nothing sufficient to prove that the President “engaged in obstructive conduct.” Mr Trump called all this an “exoneration,” and it certainly looks to be, but it’s worth stepping back from the partisan claims for some larger political context.

    The Russia conclusion in particular ought to be good news to all Americans. Mr Mueller spent two years and the vast resources of the FBI and Justice Department to search for “collusion.” He found ample evidence that Russia did try to influence the election. But he found that no one in the Trump campaign “co-ordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign,” Mr Barr wrote.

    This lifts the cloud over the 2016 election that authoritarians like Vladimir Putin hope to promote with their meddling in democracies. It means no Trump officials abetted the hack into Democratic emails, and no Trump officials conspired with WikiLeaks (Roger Stone’s fantasies aside). The conclusion should restore a measure of public confidence in our political system and the integrity of U.S. elections. Imagine the political crisis had Mr Mueller found the opposite?

    The end of the collusion illusion should also cause the media to do some soul-searching about rushes to judgment. For two years, with the help of ex-Obama officials, they spun anecdotes of contacts between Russians and Trump campaign advisers into a conspiracy. With few exceptions they went well beyond First Amendment oversight into anti-Trump advocacy. But it was always odd that those individual Russia-Trump contacts never added up to anything or went anywhere, which is why we warned about waiting for the facts.

    Many in the press also took Mr Trump’s denunciations against the investigation and his odd solicitousness for Mr Putin as an admission of guilt. But Mr Trump is often his own worst enemy, and bursts of ego and anger aren’t evidence of anything but predictable Trump behaviour.

    The question has always been whether Mr Mueller would be able to connect those anecdotes into a larger conspiracy, but now we know he could not. By the way, Mr Mueller’s probe is the third to find no Russia-Trump collusion, following the House and Senate Intelligence Committee findings. Perhaps the press corps will finally take no conspiracy for an answer.

    As for obstruction of justice, some Democrats will assert that Mr Mueller’s failure to reach a conclusion justifies more investigation. They will demand to see the evidence Mr Mueller compiled, though most of this is already in the public domain since it concerned the firing of James Comey as FBI director. And they will claim that Messrs. Barr and Rosenstein are politically conflicted.

    But note that Mr Barr says that he and Mr Rosenstein took into account that Mr Mueller found that “the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference,” which bears on motive. Without an underlying crime, what was Mr Trump trying to cover up?

    Mr Barr says he and Mr Rosenstein reached their judgment about obstruction without getting to the constitutional issue of whether a sitting President can be indicted. But in our view Mr Trump had every right as President to fire Mr Comey for whatever reason he saw fit. The Constitution gives the President the power to hire and fire at will, and it cannot be illegal to perform an act that the Constitution says is legal, no matter the motive.

    House Democrats will have to decide what to do with all this, and their first resort will be a demand to see the entire report. Mr Barr in his letter again promised to disclose as much as he can subject to grand-jury secrecy and other Justice rules. But we also hope he includes in his disclosures the documents that explain how this entire Russia conspiracy story began at the FBI and inside the Obama Administration. With Mr Mueller’s conclusions, we now know that someone may have conned the FBI into one of the great dirty tricks in American political history.

    The Mueller report won’t end this rancorous period in American politics, but at least it should put the Russia conspiracy file to bed. And for that we can all be grateful.

    The Wall Street Journal

  109. feelthebern

    Republicans watch Democrats continue with Russia probe.

  110. MatrixTransform

    Numpty, gutless as usual.

    Flying a flag from his couch cushion fort. The hero of his demesne

  111. thefrollickingmole

    What is it with Hollyweird types and rampant degeneracy?
    (speaking of which where Stimpson)

    Barbra Streisand is under fire for comments she made about two men accusing Michael Jackson of sexually assaulting them as children.

    The legendary singer and actress said that Wade Robson and James Safechuck — whose allegations against the late King of Pop resurfaced in the recent documentary “Leaving Neverland” — “were thrilled to be there” and that what allegedly happened to them “didn’t kill them.”

    Streisand, 76, made the strange comments to British newspaper The Times in a piece out Friday, in which she also said that Jackson’s “sexual needs were his sexual needs.”

    She says she “absolutely” believes the allegations of abuse by Robson and Safechuck, but puts more blame on their parents than The Gloved One.

    “His sexual needs were his sexual needs, coming from whatever childhood he has or whatever DNA he has,” Streisand told The Times. “You can say ‘molested,’ but those children, as you heard say [grown-up Robson and Safechuck], they were thrilled to be there. They both married and they both have children, so it didn’t kill them.”

  112. 1735099

    They went for conscription in 1965

    The challenge back then was to increase recruitment. There were two morally competent ways of doing that. One was universal national service which would have been politically dangerous, and the army didn’t want it.
    The other was increasing army pay by an amount that would have made enlistment attractive, but that was too expensive.

    Selective conscription (immoral, but expedient) was the strategy used. Nashos were collateral.

  113. Bruce of Newcastle

    Amusing late morning news bulletins from Seven and Nine.

    Seven reported the Mueller findings so rapidly you could’ve blinked and missed them. Nine was even funnier, as they thought two old court cases and a story about a barking dog were more interesting than Mueller clearing Trump.

    So many journalists and so few hamburger-engineering job opportunities.

  114. DrBeauGan

    Numbers, your obsession is showing again.

  115. C.L.

    Trump’s opponents in 2020:

    O’Rourke: fantasises about killing children.
    Biden: molests children.
    Harris: wants to exterminate the J-ws.
    Cortez: wants to abolish capitalism.
    Hickenbooper: watches porn with his mother.

  116. Mother Lode

    So eco-fascists who admire the Chinese communist government are now “right wing”?

    The left has decreed that the right is racist, and this fellow is racist, therefore he is of the right.

    (It is the fallacy of the undistributed middle: All cats have four legs. My dog has four legs. Therefore my dog is a cat. Even if people of the right were racists it would not mean that all racists are on the right.)

    The left likes to pretend that the right is racist: that they hate non-white races as inferior and therefore want them driven from the land.

    But the left thinks these people inferior. They see them as incapable of discipline, hard work, education, economic providence, social interaction beyond a tribe, or even of making their own decisions. These racists demand quotas, special support bodies, special funding, constant reassurance, special legal services and even adjudication because we can’t expect them to understand our culture.

    The difference is that the Left want to maintain those they see as inferior out of political opportunism. It has nothing to do with compassion, much less respect.

    I have met a few of the former – the old style racist who thinks dark people are primitive specimens and Asians all say ‘ching chong’. These people have all been what I would have considered Labor’s original demographic. Un-educated, limited experience, and with a chip on their shoulder.

    The latter type of racists are commonplace and form entire institutions.

    And all progressives.

    It is not a mistake that the institutions claiming to be these champions of the downtrodden are overwhelmingly filled with white people.

  117. feelthebern

    Cortez: wants to abolish capitalism.

    Too young.
    Can’t run.

  118. thefrollickingmole

    Selective conscription (immoral, but expedient) was the strategy used.

    Repeat after me.

    This can only happen when we allow government too much power over individuals and their choices.
    The best government is one without the power to coerce people into “immoral” activities unless it causes harm to other people. (so the power to act as “night watchman” in crime /property & basic law)

    Big government is intrinsically bad, it will always seek to force people into actions it sees as “right” and has no hesitation in using force to do so.

    Baby steps numbers, you are so close to making the breakthrough on this.

  119. Bruce of Newcastle

    What’s your solution?

    The Swiss model. Everyone conscripted and trained in firearms. Everyone required to keep an assault rifle and ammunition in their house. Citizen referenda every 6 months. Amazing how prosperous, peaceful and law abiding Switzerland is.

  120. struth

    What’s your solution?

    Your divisive multicultural policies are the problem.
    Your identity politics.
    Leftism can’t stand the word assimilation when it applies to those coming to the west, assimilating with it.
    Yet assimilating to Islam in the west, is virtuous.
    Spare me.
    The left hate the west and divisive cultural Marxism practiced now for decades have turned friends of different skin colour against each other, the sexes , the “your all victims of the evil west” bullshit, rammed down kids throats, causing skyrocketing suicide for young white boys and aboriginal children stuck in divided , socialist welfare apartheid.

    You, and your politics are the cause of this violence and mess, numbers, and then you come on here bemoaning of how the gun fires, but not admitting it’s trigger is pulled by a person effected byy the very politics you support and push.
    You’re a sick fuck.

    And these type of massacres, this blind lashing out at the innocent, didn’t occur anywhere in the west before cultural Marxism, and identity politics was pushed onto us by the institutionalised left…………people like you.
    And the States was always heavily armed.

    You and yours are the cause of death, not the tools used to do it.

  121. 1735099

    Planes flying into buildings

    There have been more people killed by gun violence in the USA this century than by foreign wars and terrorism combined.
    It is a much greater problem than illegal immigration.
    Yet nobody in the land of the free has the courage to take the NRA head on.
    It’s much the same in Afghanistan when you consider the Taliban.
    Both governments are cowed by the fundamentalists – the old men with holy writ (second amendment and the Koran respectively) tribal influence, and wealth. The Taliban are bankrolled by opium production, the NRA by gun manufacturers and marketers.
    In the USA the tribes are only slightly less obvious.

  122. C.L.

    Everyone conscripted and trained in firearms.

    Piss off. The state isn’t ‘conscripting’ me for anything.
    Traditionally, ‘peace’ in Switzerland has been purchased by that country’s national cowardice.

  123. ABC Online team is seething with rage:

    A medical team will need to be on standby if Pell is acquitted.

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    You know, I’ve given this a lot of thought recently, and come to a few conclusions.

    As a professional hot dog salesman (Nota, a lemur is a monkey. Don’t put me through that again) I believe that, with a few sensible caveats, I would be open to concealed carry permits.

    Handguns are Category H firearms, and are the toughest permits to obtain. Most of the difficulty at present lies around legitimate membership of target shooting associations and so on.

    So keep the requirements just as onerous, take out the shooters’ club stuff and add a few more stringent hurdles to the probity checks when applying for same. The probities cycle through again at three month intervals. Change in circumstances not declared to The Man – suspension of permit, the wallopers come round to take your shooter away.

    A three monthly requal for both safety and accuracy, incorporating a legislative and policy written exam conducted by licensed instructors would be mandatory. No requal, automatic suspension of permit and the wallopers come round to take your shooter away. Same storage requirements would apply to both shooter and ammo. Permit to be carried at all times whilst carrying.

    Holsters. Mandatory when carrying at all times. It’s the age-old dead giveaway – goodies wear holsters, baddies generally don’t and carry their shooter down the back of their jeans like Martin Riggs.

    No shooters on licensed premises. Obviously.

    There might be a couple more I’ve missed, but the above are the main ones and you get my drift. This would not affect the amount of illegal/unlicensed firearms the crooks tote around, but would allow possession of handguns in public places legal to certain persons. Legislatively, the circumstances around their discharge and use would not change.

    As uncomfortable as it may be for some in the law enforcement industry, people are correct when they say when you have seconds to spare, the cops are minutes away. And an armed society (armed with LEGAL LICENSED firearms) is a polite society.

    Dunno. Food for thought, and like I said I’m open to the concept, not a fervent believer in it yet.

  125. twostixb

    But we also hope he includes in his disclosures the documents that explain how this entire Russia conspiracy story began at the FBI and inside the Obama Administration. With Mr Mueller’s conclusions, we now know that someone may have conned the FBI into one of the great dirty tricks in American political history.

    No WSJ.

    Nobody is going to save your global bugmen, you aren’t going to boil this down to “oh well, some bad actors ‘conned’ the Very Serious People in the state – oops”.

    This was an open and wide spread attempt by the state apparatus of multiple countries to overthrow the American people’s election because they elected someone who loudly said he was going to replace them.

  126. C.L.

    SMH:

    Christchurch shooting showed US how dangerous ‘white power’ has become

    Which means, logically, that Chicago’s weekly gun toll shows how dangerous brown power has become.
    Right?

  127. notafan

    About as much a monkey as you KD

  128. notafan

    My friends live in North Carolina

    have a house full of guns and iirc one has a concealed carry license

    they are in of of those pale counties on the map

    North Carolina crime stats

  129. Farmer Gez

    ABC News Radio headline.
    No indictments from the Mueller inquiry following a statement of summary from Trump’s hand picked Attorney General.
    Smears are all they’ve got left.

  130. Roger

    Christchurch shooting showed US how dangerous ‘white power’ has become

    meanwhile; former KKK Grand Numpty David Duke recently declared Minnesotan Democrat Ilhan Omar, a rising star in Congress, the most significant politician in the US after she tweeted anti-semitic remarks.

    Hatred makes for strange bedfellows.

  131. Knuckle Dragger

    Don’t be dissing Barry the lemur, Nota.

    You wouldn’t like him when he’s angry.

  132. Baldrick

    Please exit in an orderly fashion to the New Fred 🎉

  133. Boambee John


    Yet nobody in the land of the free has the courage to take the NRA head on.

    Who knew that black and Hispanic gang members were also members of the NRA.

    Always go for the easy target, that’s the government way.

  134. notafan

    Don’t be dissing Barry the lemur, Nota.

    Don’t put that on me

    you are the one upsetting him by calling him a monkey

    Lemurs share resemblance with other primates, but evolved independently from monkeys and apes.

  135. Zatara

    By July of 2017 the cops had taken 5200 illegal guns off the streets of Chicago.

    Tevion Walker is one of the repeat gun offenders driving violence in Chicago, police said. The 21-year-old was arrested Friday and charged with possession of an illegal handgun. It’s Walker’s third weapons offense while on parole for another weapons offense from 2015, Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.

    Chicago law –

    Possession of a firearm can be a misdemeanor or a felony. If it’s your first offense and you “knowingly carry or possess any pistol, revolver, stun gun, taser, or other firearm,” you can be charged with a Class A misdemeanor. A Class A misdemeanor is punishable by up to a year in the county jail and a $2,500 fine.

    If it’s your second offense, you’re looking at a Class 3 felony. The penalty for a Class 3 felony in Illinois is up to 5 years in prison.

    That was 3 weapons offenses in 3 years…. and he was still on the street.

    Want better gun laws? Start enforcing the ones we already have.

  136. Rae

    The weaponisation of the massacre in NZ to ban their opposition was perfectly executed.

    The Australian left thought they could try the same here.

    The result was three SFF members in the lower house in the NSW election.

    No. Nothing to do with the New Zealand events. The Nationals have long been on the nose with voters and that is what the NSW Lower House SFF results reflect.

  137. notafan

    On the other hand KD if your lemur of indeterminate species wants to identify as a monkey he/she/they certainly can

    Don’t count on any chimps passing by not to eat him/her/they

    just ask a colobus

  138. struth

    There have been more people killed by gun violence in the USA this century than by foreign wars and terrorism combined.

    let’s pull that deceptive little piece of bullshit apart.

    It’s the 21 st century so all the wars that the USA have been involved with, they can basically win without putting their personnel directly in harms way, and the deaths stopped again, when Trump allowed then to fight with both hands, unlike Obummer who had them get legal advice on the battlefield before they were allowed to verbally abuse the Taliban……….causing unnecessary American death (your side again).
    So all up, a piss poor comparison.
    The terrorism bit, well that just might be because per head of population, they don’t have that many terror attacks, because their citizens are armed!!!!!

    You fuck stick.
    Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

  139. struth

    Christchurch shooting showed US how dangerous ‘white power’ has become

    Islamic terror attacks versus reprisal attacks?

  140. dover_beach

    If you include university

    A tragedy, but not a “massacre” by any definition. Two killed, five injured.
    Whereas the country with access to powerful semi-autos has school slaughters with monotonous regularity averaging once every 65 days.
    Things look very good in the post-Howard gun laws era,…

    Hang-on, there were no school shootings in the pre-Howard gun laws era, so your argument fails utterly in that respect. As for your claim that two dead five injured doesn’t constitute a massacre, by your own criterion, that would mean that US school massacres are rare as well, occurring once every 3 years 8 months roughly since 1960s when the first school massacre occurred, not every 65 days as you ridiculously claim.

  141. KD:

    No shooters on licensed premises. Obviously.

    So how am I to protect myself against the early morning (i.e. prior to 10am) armed invasion that pubs have been getting since… oh about 10 minutes after the gun buyback.
    They started in Sydney at the rate of about 3 per week, just as soon as (whoever it is inside the balaclavas) worked out that pubs no longer have a shotgun under the bar.

  142. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2969603, posted on March 25, 2019 at 11:58 am

    Ahahahahahahahaha.
    ABC Online team is seething with rage:

    Mueller report doesn’t exonerate Donald Trump but President claims ‘total’ victory.

    Socialism at Midday reporting that “Trump’s hand-picked AG, Barr, has given him the all clear.”
    Forgetting that Hilary’s hand-picked SC (via Rosenstein) and the dozen or so Democrat foot-soldiers took two years to find nothing.
    Apparently Barr has torn off the list of indictable offences at the end of Mueller’s report and binned it, and Mueller said nothing.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    Snap Farmer Gez.
    The voice of Pravda practically spat out “hand-picked“.

  144. areff

    Anne Summers very upset with Mueller

    https://twitter.com/SummersAnne/status/1109969864737865729

    Ms Summers in November:

    We know from Bob Woodward’s recent book, from “Anonymous” in The New York Times and from almost everyone who reports on the White House that we are dealing with an unmoored and dangerous man. We also know that Mueller has a truckload of sealed indictments, including against members of Trump’s family.

    Her boyfriend is miffed too. But Anne will make him sit in the corner if he gets too out of hand.

  145. struth

    Hang-on, there were no school shootings in the pre-Howard gun laws era, so your argument fails utterly in that respect. As for your claim that two dead five injured doesn’t constitute a massacre, by your own criterion, that would mean that US school massacres are rare as well, occurring once every 3 years 8 months roughly since 1960s when the first school massacre occurred, not every 65 days as you ridiculously claim.

    That’s precisely because school shootings are the product of the attack on the west by cultural Marxism.
    Numbers politics causes it, as proven by when they started to happen, and when terrorism came to our soils, why it came to our soils, etc.

    This shit is precisely leftism and it all complies with the violence caused from it, whether it’s in an aboriginal community, or a school in the USA or racial or non racial gun violence.
    The cause is not the weapon.
    The cause is the sickness of the society or community where resentment is fuelled by cultural Marxism.
    Where young minds are confused and corrupted by it’s group guilt placement and general support to breed self loathing and hatred of one’s own culture.

    And then the blinding hateful hypocrites come on here talking about banning guns.
    As I said, as transparent as CO2

  146. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Elle at 11:25 am:

    “I wonder if he was a bully at home.
    A foul mouthed rant in the video at the end.
    link

    Idle curiosity had me listen to that Elle – I have been passingly aware of Hadley over the years as a palooka with a big gob and not much else and I have now found that he has a history of abusing work colleagues. It does annoy me that he gets away with the bully schtik when most blokes who have been around for a bit could confirm that all he needs is a good smack in the mouth and a decent kick in the guts while he’s on his hands and knees spitting out teeth. A couple of months with a busted eye socket would shorten him up.

    Over the years I found the propensity to swear manfully and often was a dead giveaway – the genuinely tough fellas weren’t given to it. You come across some strong public figures over time and notice that – John Sattler, Charkey Ramon, Joe Bugner, Kostya Tzu, George Piggins and Jack Gibson didn’t feel the need. Jack made an interesting career choice early in life, as a driver for Abe Saffron (as I recall) and he succeeded financially in circles which valued physical ability. He was mostly hospitable and charming but he could switch to seriously menacing when needed. None of them talked about themselves near as much as Hadley!

    I read that the radio station chief had sidelined Hadley a few years back for his behaviour, only to be overidden by owner John Singleton, another galah with too much to say. I’m reminded how a couple of older mates used amuse us with stories of giving him a regular touch up at Fort Street for being a prize prick.

    Ahhh, days when dealing with life was simple, civilised and so much more effective. 😉

  147. Mr Bolt refers to Senator Fraser Anning as FAR RIGHT as if that were some disgusting position.

    VERY sad for Australia that so-called conservative politicians and commentators snipe at each other with half truths and outright lies instead of identifying and exposing the real enemies.

    But then “ in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

  148. Fat Tony

    1735099
    #2969561, posted on March 25, 2019 at 11:25 am
    The major issue in the US is the prevalence of firearms in the community.

    The major issue in the US and other countries is the existence of fuckwits like you.
    What is it – are you mentally ill or just plain evil?

  149. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Here’s the video, Lizzie.
    At 3:17 Koch goes cray cray.

    Yes, Elle, just reviewed it. Koch starts with a leading question (of the ‘why are you supporting killing Muslims?’ type) and it gets worse from there. Pauline struggles well with it, and keeps her cool, although by the end this attack, by her overall facial skin tones, it is obviously taking a physical toll on her. Her hands rarely do more than just move emphatically up and down although she points once strongly at Hinch. Koch does THREE major episodes of ferocious pointing, one where he actually leans forward to do so and both raise their voices; she mostly does not and her body language is of retreating back rather than sitting forward. I must admit that I hadn’t viewed the Hinch part, and find his anger, aggression and claiming outright lies about Pauline even worse than Koch. They are certainly peas in a very nasty attack-dog pod, those two. Pauline did answer the question re Anning, btw. Quite well, too.

    ‘Kochie’, talk about a diminutive inappropriately applied, let’s stick with Herr Koch, as the responsible interviewer as I still judge it deserves strong censure.

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