Wednesday Forum: April 3, 2019

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  1. Tel

    Q1 – Hands up all the Cats who preferenced Labor ahead of the Liberals/Nationals in the 2013 general election?
    Q2 – Hands up all the Cats who preferenced Labor ahead of the Liberals/Nationals in the 2016 general election?

    If you put those two down near the bottom of your list of preferences the statistical chance of any seat counting all the way down to the last two preferences is nearly zero. Even if it does ever happen, at least you stop the major parties pulling cash out of your first preference, and you register a count on the historic record for a minor party which in turn encourages others to make the effort in future elections. One vote on its own never makes a difference (that’s by design) but gradually more and more people are using their preferences to good effect and ohh look there’s an ever growing cross bench at each level in Australian politics.

    In NSW, if it really bothers you, they allow optional preferences you can leave off the major parties completely. That doesn’t make any difference to the election outcome, but it cheers up some people and I’m happy with the system provided they stop right now with changing the rules.

  2. memoryvault

    You can always put the Liberals second last and Labor last if that’s the order of your preference … at least they will get the hint that way.

    Which in 96% of cases (144 seats out of 150 last general election) that would be a vote for the Liberals.

    From the bottom – Greens, Labor, Liberal.

    Which in 97% of cases (145 seats out of 150 2013 general election) that would be a vote for the Liberals.

    Tell me again how you don’t vote Liberal, Jupes.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’ll check back later to see the results.

    Q1 – Voted Libs, they weren’t bonkers then. Tony Abbott promised stop the boats & remove the carbon and mining taxes and did.
    Q2 – Voted informal in the reps, 12 below the line in the senate starting with ALA. No prefs to LibLab.

  4. Roger

    There are a helluva lot of people on this terrible website with shocking health.

    Give me a heads up? What age did you start to feel totally rooted?

    Rarely had a day off work until I hit 50, then out of the blue a number of chronic conditions developed which eventually necessitated early retirement.

    Happily, though, the black dog has gone away.

  5. yackman

    to all those chasing John Riddoch; the cellar has 3 remaining 98’s ($35 each) and they are excellent.
    they match Clonakilla S/V and Castangna Genesis. All outside my price range these days.

  6. Tel

    Which in 96% of cases (144 seats out of 150 last general election) that would be a vote for the Liberals.

    MV that’s garbage. One third of the seats in 2016 were won outright on first preferences. Right here.

    http://australianpolitics.com/2016/08/20/house-primary-vote-winners-2016.html

    So your “96%” is complete junk. I don’t know where you get this stuff from. Besides that, the AEC don’t publish the exact cascade of second preference, third, etc but generally Green preferences go to the ALP, conservative minor parties go to Liberal, you can work it out yourself. The type of cliffhanger seat that would count right down to the very last preference is almost impossible to arrange.

    Try putting together a dozen paper ballots at home in your spare time, and run through the process yourself and just try to arrange a situation where it counts all the way to the very last. It’s difficult to do, even if you want to do it.

  7. Knuckle Dragger

    Demons running hot.

    Essendon muppets yelling at each other on the field. As Emperor Palpatine would say,

    ‘Good. Goooood’.

  8. Overburdened

    DMT

    Like your work.

  9. Overburdened

    Tfm

    Re Uber eats.

    Kill an animal.
    Gather the harvest of the land.
    Be a man.

  10. jupes

    Tell me again how you don’t vote Liberal, Jupes.

    I don’t vote Liberal. In fact my electorate didn’t even have a Liberal to vote for last election*.

    Which in 97% of cases (145 seats out of 150 2013 general election) that would be a vote for the Liberals (or Labor sic).

    There are 8 cross benchers now you idiot. However notwithstanding that fact, I tend to agree with Tel:

    If you put those two down near the bottom of your list of preferences the statistical chance of any seat counting all the way down to the last two preferences is nearly zero.

    * For those who pay attention to previous posts, my darling wife hasn’t changed her address on the electoral roll.

  11. Infidel Tiger

    I’ll be voting Liberals 1. Different in the Senate.

    Celia Hammond is exactly the type of candidate we need.

  12. memoryvault

    If you put those two down near the bottom of your list of preferences the statistical chance of any seat counting all the way down to the last two preferences is nearly zero.

    Utterly irrelevant, Tel. Preference go on being re-allocated down the line until one candidate accumulates 50% + 1 of the total votes. It matters not if that requires going down the line only one level of preferences, two levels of preferences, or 20, the result is still the same.

    Since Labor and Liberal/Nationals together invariably usually get over 50% of the first preference votes, it then doesn’t matter how far down you have to go, the seat will end up with Labor, the Libs or the Nats. The system is designed to ensure that outcome. This is because the vote remains valued at exactly one, regardless of how far down it goes.

    Simply introducing optional preferential voting would largely eliminate this gerrymander. Which is why it will never be introduced at federal level, was introduced in QLD for state elections and then was scrapped, and now exists in NSW but will soon be scrapped.

  13. jupes

    to all those chasing John Riddoch; the cellar has 3 remaining 98’s ($35 each) and they are excellent.

    Which cellar yackman, yours? If so are you offering them for sale?

  14. Nick

    Demons running hot.

    Essendon muppets yelling at each other on the field. As Emperor Palpatine would say,

    ‘Good. Goooood’.

    Hahahahahahaha yes

  15. We really should randomise ballot papers along with having voluntary voting.

    I got called a fascist tonight because I think we ought to have a very easy civics test to vote.

    Maybe I’m wrong about that, maybe just voluntary voting will do.

    Libertarians and conservatives (and populists) really ought to fight harder for fair elections; such as ending subsidises for political parties if they get over a quota of votes.

    It has kept the uniparty in the black for decades now.

  16. Nick

    Fairfax is running a slew of ‘bring the kids home’ stories. What’s the bet that they will omit Nanny Nettleton helping to spirit the Sharrouf brood out of the country?

  17. calli

    Give me a heads up? What age did you start to feel totally rooted?

    Sixty three. Still just a cutting. 🌱

  18. Infidel Tiger

    to all those chasing John Riddoch; the cellar has 3 remaining 98’s ($35 each) and they are excellent.
    they match Clonakilla S/V and Castangna Genesis. All outside my price range these days.

    First wine I ever had that showed me that good wine really was different, was a ‘91 Riddoch I flogged from my old man’s cellar.

  19. Nick

    Riddoch is circa $135 a bottle here, I’m guessing the OP is talking WA?

  20. memoryvault

    There are 8 cross benchers now you idiot. However notwithstanding that fact, I tend to agree with Tel:

    Jupes I said GENERAL ELECTION. Between the 2016 GENERAL ELECTION and now, we had something like 22 by-elections, mostly, but not exclusively, because of forced resignations over Section 44.

    I suggest you take a time out and learn the difference between between a general and a by-election, before you make an idiot of yourself again calling others an idiot when you obviously didn’t even read the post correctly.

  21. Roger

    Seven reports bunfight between Uncle Toby’s and Woolworths. Uncle Toby’s wants Woolies to put the price up because they are being eaten alive by costs.

    Specifically: electricity.

    Australian politician: We can always import porridge from the UK.

  22. Overburdened

    Tucker Carlson speaking with a bloke who had something to do with the US Border people.

    Carlson was asking about the conditions that are in place and the complexion this is given by the democrats in the press.

    The bloke was authentically offended by the democrats.

    Carlson said that the US would not be deliberately cruel.

    In almost the entire ethos of the US, as in Australia and other places, this is true.

  23. zyconoclast

    Bezos new girlfriend will be the most expensive 50 year old skank ever.

    Jeff Bezos: World’s richest man agrees $35bn divorce

    Ms Bezos keeps a 4% stake in the online retail giant, worth $35.6bn on its own.
    The Amazon shares alone will make Ms Bezos the world’s third-richest woman while Jeff will remain the world’s richest person, according to Forbes.

  24. Overburdened

    Nick

    Sanction with extreme prejudice.

  25. Armadillo

    Gentlemen, just a reminder that Friday night on the Cat is blokes night.

    NO pussy footing around issues like the Sheilahs do. And NO, Barneys ex-missus looks like a bloke now. Deal with it. Any dude who finds that attractive is fucking insane. Or gay.

    Sheliahs should wear a pretty floral dress, and ribbons in their hair.

  26. zyconoclast

    Is the cost of your gasoline about to rise? Washington looks ready to talk about a tax hike

    The Trump administration and congressional Democrats have found something they agree on — and it could mean higher taxes on gasoline and diesel fuel.

    Last week, President Donald Trump’s transportation secretary, Elaine Chao, told senators that a gas tax hike was on the table when asked whether the White House would support such a move.

    And this week, Democrats are indicating that they too are ready to consider a tax increase — an effort that would fund publicly popular infrastructure improvements but has hit a hard wall of opposition for years from fiscal conservatives and advocates for low-income people alike.

  27. Knuckle Dragger

    Jussie Smollett appears to be in a bit of a quandary.

    He and his team probably thought that yes, there’s be a bit of fire and fury about the Cook County prosecutors dropping his fakery charges, but that it would be ok in the end. New, fatter contracts and all that.

    But I’ll bet my pound to your peanut (sorry Bandanna Man) he wasn’t expecting to be hit with a bill for $130K for the police investigation.

    If he doesn’t pay the bill, he goes to court – where the matters raised will be heard in open court and unsurprisingly will be found guilty and liable for the cash or go to jail. If he pays up, bang whacko – it’ll be seen as an admission of guilt.

    Bad luck either way, you lying sack of shit.

  28. Armadillo

    And they should be slim, but not skinny. Nigella fans are are in the “frumpy” camp.

  29. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘there’d be’

    Goddamnit.

  30. Cassie of Sydney

    “Infidel Tiger
    #2980581, posted on April 5, 2019 at 8:54 pm
    I’ll be voting Liberals 1. Different in the Senate.

    Celia Hammond is exactly the type of candidate we need.”

    You’re very fortunate to have such a candidate in Celia Hammond.

    I’m in Wentworth….I’ll just leave it at that.

  31. Steve trickler

    Down in the depths, this bloke thrives.



  32. Steve trickler

    Blocked again, really?

    Gee whiz.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    I’m in Wentworth….I’ll just leave it at that.

    Dave Sharma should be pushed into the sea.

    A disgraceful, low energy beta.

  34. Armadillo

    Jussie Smollett appears to be in a bit of a quandary.

    Jussie needs to be smacked with a class action by MAGA supporters for defamation. Go Fund Me and bankrupt the lying prick. Everything will need to come out in court. I’d expect the police will be more than willing to release any relevant information.

  35. Steve trickler

    Knuckle Dragger
    #2980598, posted on April 5, 2019 at 9:28 pm

    Jussie Smollett appears to be in a bit of a quandary.

    You bet he is in a quandary. Surrounded and embedded with evil nasty people. He’s fodder.

  36. Steve trickler

    Gaah!

    If there are limits to posting clips, please stipulate. I will adhere.

    Grrrr.

  37. Steve trickler

    I’ll try this. Look this title up the tube.

    The Passage (final scene) with Guillaume Néry.

    Brilliant.

  38. jupes

    Jupes I said GENERAL ELECTION.

    You also said that 97% of the votes went to the Liberals when clearly you meant Lib/Lab.

    If you’re going to be a pedant, be consistent dickhead.

  39. Armadillo

    Law fare their arses is the only answer.

    If the DOJ won’t do their job, and law enforcement are restricted from doing their job by political constraint (Jussie in particular), then private citizens are going to have to band together and start playing them at their own game.

    These dickheads on the left have actually created the very weapon that will ultimately be their own demise.

  40. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dave Sharma should be pushed into the sea.

    A disgraceful, low energy beta.

    Err, he polled TEN THOUSAND more primary votes then Kerryn Phelps, who was elected on Labor preferences.

  41. Hay Stockard

    I was trying to catch up. It appears numbers is on auto send.
    Ones scrolling didn’t can only take so much.
    I hope a decent chap like Jupes or,someone can précis it for me.
    Cheers
    Ruthless and Toothless.

  42. egg_

    Stranger than fiction.
    Dr Bogle was a kiwi and known to his mates to have several women on the go even before he married.
    Whilst married with 4 kids he routinely did the CSIRO Librarian at lunchtime by the Lane Cove Golf Course in the same manner as the night he died – on a small roll of carpet stored in the boot of his clapped out old car.
    Party host Nash’s wife died 11 years later to the day (New Years Day, 1974).
    Nash, Chandler’s boss, who held the party they left, suicided 2 years later to the day (New Years Day, 1976).
    Duped by Chandler into slipping the drugs into the coffee?

  43. Hay Stockard

    Digit not didn’t. Effing autocorrect.

  44. Armadillo

    It’s time to “shine some light” on these fuckers.

  45. RobK

    British comedy on iraq war
    youtu.be/nohGiQmOxlc

  46. Farmer Gez

    Alert to farmers.

    Planned animal activist action – Monday 8 April

    It has come to the VFF’s attention that a group of animal activists is planning a global, coordinated, day of action on Monday 8 April between 5.30am to 3.00pm. That said, we are anticipating action at any time in the coming days as these activists are clever in disguising the details and targets of their attack.

    What is happening?
    The group has been careful to protect key information about where the action will take place and what the action will be, so we do not know many details.

    What we believe is that groups of plain-clothed activists will be gathering in major cities around Australia – Melbourne, Sydney and Hobart – at 5.30am on Monday 8 April. Once the groups have gathered in the city centre, they will then transported to an undisclosed location a short distant from the CBD.

    The group has told their supporters that they are not planning a march, but a ‘direct action’. This suggests that activists will likely stage a ‘sit-in’, ‘lock-on’ or other obstruction to some sort of animal agriculture business. We do not know whether they will target a farm or another business.

    Well supported by the ABC and the Greens no doubt.

  47. miltof

    Incredible story Egg. So many twists.

  48. Steve trickler

    Check out these three blokes, free dive this wreck in the Mediterranean.

    Search HAVEN on the tube. Good stuff. I can not post it here.

    From the Guillaume Néry channel.

  49. Armadillo

    Egg, the Sheliah made a Quiche. You shouldn’t be impressed. Probably more offended than anything.

  50. egg_

    Welcome to Coconut Airways, Captain Tobias Wilcock speaking, we’re departing Death in Paradise…

  51. egg_

    You shouldn’t be impressed.

    Does she jiggle her baps?

  52. Armadillo

    Egg, the Sheliah is as promoting vegetatarian dishes.

    Are you drunk?

  53. Armadillo

    Does she jiggle her baps?

    I concede.

  54. jupes

    I hope a decent chap like Jupes or,someone can précis it for me.

    LOL

    Okay here we go: Numbers has lived over 70 years but for only one of those years has he done anything he can be proud of. The rest has been a complete waste.

    Despite this, he pretends that that one decent year was the worst year of his life. The fact that it is all he wants to talk about gives the lie to this bullshit.

    My beef with the fuckwit is that he makes up anecdotes about his service. Fucking disgraceful conduct no different to my mind to those who make up service histories.

  55. jupes

    Essendon home!

    First to 100 points always wins right?

  56. Overburdened

    Sheesh this is a soft men’s night.

    How about an old style prawn night and then I can tell the instigator of this fiasco why he is wrong about the ex Barney’s Missusses of the world.

  57. Overburdened

    In a more conciliatory vein, it may be that we have moved in different circles.

  58. Bushkid

    memoryvault
    #2980532, posted on April 5, 2019 at 7:24 pm

    So now it’s time to cook dinner.
    For one.
    Again.

    This being single and alone sucks.

    Just joined that club myself a fortnight ago, mv.
    The radio fills the silence, the cat is a live mammal about the house, but he’s no conversationalist.
    I’m not a bad cook, but cooking for one isn’t much fun, and my man was the culinary enthusiast.
    He was also the musician, the astronomer, the cosmologist, the reader, the historian, and the man who in the last few years was always here at home for me at the end of my working day.
    He gave all his working years in service to his country or his community, even for the ungrateful bastards who thoughtlessly spit on those who serve.

  59. Overburdened

    Justin Hepple has stepped up.

    Melbourne seem not to be able to kick straight and stop the other teams converting.

  60. Overburdened

    Bushkid
    Hats off to your bloke

  61. Farmer Gez

    Comrade Constantine are you around?
    Animal activist commies are at the gates.

  62. Armadillo

    Okay here we go

    nUmbers reminds me of an obsessed Footy Fan. Everyone knows the type. They just constantly talk about it. Non stop. “Their Team”, got all the jumpers and shirts, know all the players names and the stats. It’s fucking annoying. You know the first thing they are going to say to you. What about the game on the weekend?

    When you ask them if they have ever played, the answer is invariably NO. Maybe in 6th class or something.

    I started playing footy when I was 5 years old and finished playing when I was 23. It’s a great game, but I haven’t watched a grand final in at least years. I couldn’t be bothered after figuring out the vast majority of them are absolute meat heads.

  63. memoryvault

    You also said that 97% of the votes went to the Liberals when clearly you meant Lib/Lab.

    No, it was specifically in response to YOUR OWN POST which was specifically about preferencing Liberals ahead of Labor. go back and READ your own post, Dickhead.

  64. Overburdened

    Safari suits required.

    And extra cheese.

  65. go back and READ your own post, Dickhead.

    This is not that sort of blog!

  66. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Navy sailor punches cop after she refused to kiss her girlfriend at his request
    Lucy Hughes-Jones and Charles Miranda, News Corp Australia Network
    April 5, 2019 4:00pm
    Subscriber only

    A drunk navy sailor punched a police woman after she refused a demand she kiss her girlfriend so he and another seaman could “get off on it” in what became a wild night out at a Sydney inner west pub.

    Royal Australian Navy Leading Seaman Jason Scott Smith got into a fight with the off-duty Senior Constable Kristie Short when she refused what a court heard was an intimidating, harassing and degrading sexual gratification request.

    He was found guilty of two counts of assault at a Burwood Local Court hearing while fellow Navy sailor Mark Tiplady, 49, was acquitted of impersonating a police officer.

    The 35-year-old Smith was sentenced to a six-month conditional release order, a penalty which acts as a warning, but both men are set to be severely disciplined by the Australian Defence Force which has been at pains to stamp out years of serious allegations of widespread attitudes of sexism and misogyny against women in the ranks.

    That discipline can range from pay loss, demotion or termination.

    A Defence spokesman said yesterday: “The ADF has no tolerance for unacceptable behaviour or criminal behaviour.”

    “Every ADF member undergoes annual training in workplace behaviour and all ranks are well aware of the high expectations the ADF expects of uniformed members both on and off duty.”

    The court heard on March 30 last year Snr Const Short, a NSW Police intelligence analyst, had kissed her partner Catherine Smith before ordering a glass of wine at the bar of Marrickville’s iconic Henson Park Hotel.

    The 33-year-old said she heard someone say “I could watch that all day” and then Tiplady said “my mate and I really liked it when you girls kissed and we were wondering if you could do it again so we can watch?” before they both started laughing.

    In a police statement, she said she told the pair to f*** off and added: “I’m sitting here trying to enjoy a drink with my partner and watch the footy and you think you have the right to walk up to us and ask us that? How dare you!”

    She said Smith immediately became aggressive, puffing out his chest and saying: “what makes you think I wouldn’t ask two guys to kiss?”.
    The ADF says it has “no tolerance for unacceptable behaviour or criminal behaviour.”

    Bar staff asked the men to leave for “inappropriate behaviour” before Tiplady flashed what they said appeared to be a police badge. He later clarified it was a Military Police badge.

    A triple-zero call made by a witness said a man yelling and slurring his words pushed a woman over, adding “it’s getting kinda heated. He’s getting pretty angry”.

    CCTV footage captured Smith punching the officer twice as Mr Tiplady tried to restrain him before the two men then scuffle.

    Hi Ho, Jack ashore…..

  67. Armadillo

    Comrade Constantine are you around?

    Gez, I sent your comment to a few Agri Business managers.

    They tend to think the Windsor area in Sydney might be the target. Could be a “false flag” as well. There are warnings on FB that entering private property is illegal and prosecutable. I suspect the plod have been monitoring the situation. Good.

  68. which was specifically about preferencing Liberals ahead of Labor

    There was a good argument to put sitting members last put Shorten has really lost the plot with the electric car thing.

    The best thing that can happen is that right wing minor and micro parties preference each other up the billy O and we see an obstructionist Senate that stonewalls on most things but want cheap, reliable power and lower taxes & responsible spending, amongst defence of common law, constitutional and human rghts.

  69. Knuckle Dragger

    Goddamn pussers.

    Every single time.

    Instead of facilitating free sex changes, the RAN would be far better served allocating that part of the budget to the reintroduction, and appropriate staffing of, the Shore Patrol.

  70. Overburdened

    In spite of the men’s night being open to females I feel inclined to poetry.

    In deference to the females, I shall offer the opening lines to some of the most meaningful rhymes describing the human condition.

    An argentine gaucho named Bruno

    There was an old girl from Gunnygannoo

    There was a young man from Nantucket

    Don’t look at me that way stranger (variously thought to begin, when a man grows old…)

    In a series

  71. Knuckle Dragger

    Geez I hope Holsworthy’s still operational.

    I dunno which one of these muppets the screws will hate more – the woman puncher, or the MP.

  72. memoryvault

    Sorry to read of your loss, Bushkid.
    In some ways the first couple of weeks are the hardest.
    And in other ways it just doesn’t get any better, ever.
    And in some ways, at least for me, dinner time is one of the hardest times of all.
    Regardless of what else was happening, we always put everything aside and shared dinner time together.

    If ever you just want to just chat get in touch via Sinc and I’ll give you a call.
    And if I can help in any other way, just ask.

  73. Armadillo

    How about an old style prawn night and then I can tell the instigator of this fiasco why he is wrong about the ex Barney’s Missusses of the world.

    I’m intrigued as to why a Sheliah with muscles is attractive. Enlightenment me.

    Sheliahs are meant to be soft and feminine.

  74. Overburdened

    Arma
    Well they are in the right spots

  75. Bushkid

    Thanks Overburdened, he was one of the many who just gave without consideration of the cost to himself, until it was too late.

  76. Overburdened

    N hard in the right spots if you’re good enough

  77. Overburdened

    When the pain of the loss eases you will be so happy for having had him.

    Peace

  78. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Geez I hope Holsworthy’s still operational.

    The last gaol in Australia, to stop inflicting a diet of bread and water? The bread may have been stale, but you were allowed all the water you could drink?

  79. Bushkid

    Thanks mv, that’s very much appreciated. I’ll maybe do that in a while.
    Dinner time was also important to us, a time shared no matter what.
    At the moment I’m just getting back into work again, catching up with the clients I’ve been having to postpone over the last month or so. It helps to be busy, and it’s physical work too.

  80. Armadillo

    Good Lordy. You organise a blokes night out and it turns into a Men’s Shed.

  81. Tel

    Utterly irrelevant, Tel. Preference go on being re-allocated down the line until one candidate accumulates 50% + 1 of the total votes. It matters not if that requires going down the line only one level of preferences, two levels of preferences, or 20, the result is still the same.

    If your preference for Lib/Lab is 5 levels down, and one or other wins on first preference (a third of them already win on first preference) or second preference (most of the remainder win on second preference) then it’s already at 50% + 1 votes long before your preference gets visited. Supposedly they count on past that point only to get a final total, but he’s already won it.

    Why that bugs you to have someone count out a two party preferred total is beyond me … and why you think it’s a good idea to throw your vote away just to avoid a situation that doesn’t make any difference is even more beyond me.

    Look at it this way: let’s suppose three people roll up to vote, and one of them votes exactly down the line the Liberal “how to vote” card with [1] Liberal then whatever who cares after that … then the other guy votes for someone like [1] Fraser Anning, followed by [2] Liberal then others … the third guy scribbles on his papers and writes obscenities. Are you going to tell me those first two votes are politically equivalent? Which voter do you think the major parties pay the most attention to? Must be the third guy!

    Not that I’m personally recommending Fraser Anning, but I’m using that as an example. If MV is correct then it makes no difference whatsoever either way. If it really makes no difference, why do these fringe candidates rattle the establishment so much?

  82. Steve trickler

    I decided to start a video blog. Now i have to learn word press.

    https://therealmofthehuman.home.blog/

    Wish me luck.

  83. memoryvault

    Anytime, Bushkid. I mean that.
    Do you have family or friends handy?

  84. Bushkid

    Overburdened
    #2980661, posted on April 5, 2019 at 10:52 pm
    When the pain of the loss eases you will be so happy for having had him.

    Peace

    Indeed. Life would have been very different without him, and I can’t imagine what that would have been like.

    An early start in the morning, so that’s it from me. Goodnight and best wishes to all.

  85. Top Ender

    One to scroll back to later after you’re feeling mellow:

  86. Armadillo

    If you blokes want to have a sulk, Julia Gillard is in charge of Beyond Blue.

    I’m sure she will be receptive to having a conversation about blokes feelings. Email her.

  87. memoryvault

    Goodnight Bushkid.
    Keep safe.

  88. yackman

    re Jupes @ 8.57 pm. The term “Cellar” refers to a certain place of storage. Not literally a Cellar.
    What remains of my better labels is strictly for us and not for sale. The kids get the wines that are likely to be past best. Wanted to reassure those looking at buying the Riddoch that unlike some expensive wines it has stood the test of time. The remaining bottles will be gone by end May 2020.

  89. Overburdened

    Arma

    Take responsibility and whip the men’s night into shape.

    Ffs if the opening line of The Ballad of Eskimo Nell can’t get the ball rolling then it’s down to you.

  90. memoryvault

    Thanks, Top Ender.
    Even more appropriate than you realise, just at the moment.

  91. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    All the best, Bushkid. Life sucks, sometimes.

  92. Bushkid

    memoryvault
    #2980667, posted on April 5, 2019 at 10:59 pm
    Anytime, Bushkid. I mean that.
    Do you have family or friends handy?

    One last go before bedtime.
    A lot of friends around mv, not so much family. We were both always content in our own company, and comfortable with solitude, but it’s not the same as being actually alone like this. My business keeps me in contact with a lot of people, and always meeting new clients, and they’re almost exclusively very decent folk. We had no children – neither of us felt qualified or capable of meeting that particular responsibility. Then again, who does when faced with that reality; yet the human race persists.

    An early start in the morning, so I’ll call it quits for tonight, and catch up again soon. Your post about cooking for one really hit home with me this evening, hence my reply. Thanks again.

  93. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ffs if the opening line of The Ballad of Eskimo Nell can’t get the ball rolling then it’s down to you.

    I know all seventy four verses of “The Ball of Kerriemuir.”

  94. Armadillo

    I’m more of a Doris Day fan, Eggy.

  95. Overburdened

    While I’m at it, the cheap shot at men’s feelings from the bloke that won’t take on a Virago?

    Mate harden up

  96. Oh come on

    I like that Infowars chick’s videos. It is pretty astonishing how many people at the leftist rallies she covers think they have the right to grab her. I’ve seen lots of footage of blokes like Fleccas going in to leftist rallies to talk to the demented participants, and the guys don’t get even remotely manhandled like this girl does.

  97. Bushkid

    Thanks Zulu.
    Yeah, it sucks at times, but without the bad there’s no contrast for the good.

  98. Overburdened

    ZK2A
    I remember discussing that some time back.

    A literary masterpiece, sentimentally interpreted by Jim Croce, among others.

  99. Steve trickler

    I do not know what is going on with the filters, Sinc.

    Having said that, i am going to run amok on my own.

    Yippee!

  100. memoryvault

    Sorry Tel, but after Bushkid’s news my heart’s no longer in our friendly stoushes about the frivolities and trivialities of Australian politics.

    Maybe tomorrow night, if that’s okay with you?

  101. A lot of stuff on Infowars is quite sane.

    Jones talks to much about his personal eschatology. He also insists he can back up what he says othewise.

    He was right about atrazine and he NEVER said what he was accused over Sandy Hook.

    After watching him on JRE, I can say that the media did a number on me. More or less, Alex Jones did nothing wrong.

    Wow. Joe Biden and some damned fool veteran star. That Caitlin chick is the best polite passive aggressive troll.

  102. Overburdened

    Soz

    Should have added that it was on this blog.

  103. Oh come on

    After watching him on JRE, I can say that the media did a number on me. More or less, Alex Jones did nothing wrong.

    Dot is AJ!

  104. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Two people have been charged with trespassing after an investigation into a mass protest on a southern Queensland feedlot last month

    I’m retired these days, but when I “ran the farm”, any animal liberationists “mass protesting” on my place, would have had the dogs set on them, or a ar$e full of rock salt, fired from a shotgun.

  105. Armadillo

    Sinc, please ban Friday “Blokes Night”.

  106. jupes

    nUmbers reminds me of an obsessed Footy Fan.

    Now you’re just being silly.

    Un-Australian too. Nothing wrong with footy fans. Next you’ll be dissing test cricket.

  107. Oh come on

    The Rogan podcast was extremely interesting. It offered a powerful insight into the mindset of the conspiracy theorist. I now realise how Jones weaves his wacky world together.

  108. Armadillo

    Next you’ll be dissing test cricket.

    Australians haven’t played it for years. Stop living in the past.

  109. jupes

    go back and READ your own post, Dickhead.

    LOL. You don’t need to go back and read your own post as I’ve pasted it here you knob-jockey:

    Which in 97% of cases (145 seats out of 150 2013 general election) that would be a vote for the Liberals.

    Not Lib/Lab, not the Uniparty – the Liberals.

    Hot tip: If you are going to be a pedant, get your own house in order first.

  110. You don’t reckon the stuff against Alex Jones is NOT a hit job?

    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=media+lied+about+alex+jones

    Wow. Page 1, 20 or so news outlets with the exact same headline and very similar body text.

    It is also not what he really said, I know that, I watched the JRE podcast.

    Also search for how the media lied about Alex Jones saying that people should go and harass the families of victims. You won’t find it on Google.

    Quite frankly I like Alex Jones’ homespun cosmic dualism theories of theology over hippie trail fuckwits pretending to be Buddhist and spreading lies about the falsified intolerance of others.

  111. JC

    Just back from a wedding.

    Three weddings now and I can assume all weddings have the requisite gay couple attending. One thing new though was that the wedding celebrant thanked the original owners who lived on the land where the ceremony was held on behalf of the bride and groom.

  112. I now realise how Jones weaves his wacky world together.

    You use a filter. His heart is in the right place.

    It is like Breitbart to me. There is a lot of trash there but they report stuff you just don’t see otherwise.

  113. JC

    Oh come on
    #2980697, posted on April 5, 2019 at 11:20 pm

    The Rogan podcast was extremely interesting. It offered a powerful insight into the mindset of the conspiracy theorist. I now realise how Jones weaves his wacky world together.

    That was some really crazy shit, OCO. Rogan though was very polite and friendly to the Infowars “star”. I couldn’t stop watching it. he literally jumped from one crazy idea to another effortlessly.

  114. jupes

    One thing new though was that the wedding celebrant thanked the original owners who lived on the land where the ceremony was held on behalf of the bride and groom.

    Did the bride and groom invite any of the “original owners”?

  115. JC

    Walker

    I think you’re right. Jones is as wacky as hell, but he’s also on the side of the good. If the Left can knee pad to bug eyes then there’s no reason to be critical of Jones.

  116. jupes

    Three weddings now and I can assume all weddings have the requisite gay couple attending.

    It could have been worse. I recently went to a school reunion that turned into a lezzo wedding.

  117. Oh come on

    Dot, AJ is a crank. He is. That doesn’t mean he’s not being fitted up for the Sandy Hook stuff and other things. I think he is.

    That being said, it isn’t hard to fit him up because he spouts such a colossal volume of bullshit, so it’s quite easy to take him out of context. Also, he has a tendency to get rushes of blood to the head that he has to walk back later. It’s pretty easy to depict his original statement and ignore his later qualifications and walkbacks.

  118. JC

    Did the bride and groom invite any of the “original owners”?

    Great point. It didn’t come to me to ask that question when wifey was pinching me to shut when I groaned.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Did the bride and groom invite any of the “original owners”?

    Jupes, may I use that quote? Shamelessly, and without attribution?

  120. JC

    OCO

    All true, but why criticize loons on our side when the left is treating theirs like gods? Seriously, a 29 year old barmaid is mouthing off the Green New Deal. The Green New Deal is wackier than anything Jones has ever uttered.

  121. Leigh Lowe

    De Bombers.
    Dey flyin up.

  122. Oh come on

    You use a filter.

    Please explain.

  123. jupes

    Jupes, may I use that quote? Shamelessly, and without attribution?

    Fill your boots.

  124. JC

    OCO

    The left is telling us blokes can be female and vice versa. Jones is tame compared to all leftists.

  125. Oh come on

    All true, but why criticize loons on our side when the left is treating theirs like gods?

    Flip that around. Let’s say you’re a sensible leftist (oxymoron I know, but bear with me). Wouldn’t you say that as a reflective critique? We treat our loons like gods yet they never stop criticising theirs!

    I think the non-leftist way is better.

  126. mh

    Looks like the Feb dip in US jobs growth was not the trend

    Job market bounces back in March with 196,000 gain in payrolls

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/05/nonfarm-payrolls-march-2019.html

  127. Oh come on

    JC, I can spend all day criticising leftist actors (and have done so in the past. Right now I’m criticising AJ.

    Besides, I don’t see AJ as one of ours. His rights ought to be protected, but I don’t get tribal about his travails.

  128. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Jupes, may I use that quote? Shamelessly, and without attribution?

    Fill your boots.

    Regarding all the “traditional owners” bullshit, a few years ago, there were Government grants available for salt control and re-vegetation, on agricultural land. I applied for such a grant. Leaving aside the fact that it took longer to do the paperwork, then the actual work itself, you got all sorts of brownie points, if you had sought the permission of the “traditional owners” of the land.

    A search revealed that he “traditional owner” of the place lived two hundred kilometers away, and had never set foot on that land, in their lives.

  129. JC

    Never give the slime balls an opening, OCO. That’s why the twitter bans are running 30:1 against the Right.

  130. Armadillo

    One thing new though was that the wedding celebrant thanked the original owners who lived on the land where the ceremony was held on behalf of the bride and groom.

    I’m assuming you aren’t talking about the Aboriginal owners then? Their people belong to the land, not the other way around. Until it suits. There was zero concept of land ownership, up until the late 20th century.

    I saw a bumper sticker today – “Treaty Now”. Errr…you are meant to have actually won the war to demand a treaty and negotiate. Besides, you didn’t mind taking the mirrors, tucker, beads and booze we gave you at the time.

    I’m tempted to argue that an old Aunt in England sold 100 acres in London 25o years ago and got ripped off.

  131. JC

    Never give the slimes an opening, OCO. That’s why the twitter bans are running 30:1 against the Right.

  132. memoryvault

    Thanks Egg,
    I needed that (Normie Rowe).
    Can I play too?

  133. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I saw a bumper sticker today – “Treaty Now”. Errr…you are meant to have actually won the war to demand a treaty and negotiate. Besides, you didn’t mind taking the mirrors, tucker, beads and booze we gave you at the time.

    Draft of a “treaty” between all the “First Nations” forever weighed down in a Stone Age culture, and an Australia, moving into the twenty-first century

    “We won
    You lost
    Too bad
    So sad.”

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bushkid, that is a very recent and raw loss. Tragic for you.
    And now your life has changed. Just like that.

    I am so sorry to hear about your husband’s death and your sadness. As MV knows, the single dinners are the worst. I’ve lived in dread only recently of suddenly losing my own sweet Hairy man, to no longer be able to see his dear face and to everyday be reassured by our life together, his usual habits, his way of quirkily seeing something he just has to bring to my attention, his kind nature and his constant love for me.

    I loved my first husband once too, and we had two children together. You don’t do that lightly, or at least I didn’t. When he walked out on all that we had built together and were still building, our children were mere toddlers. I though I would never cope in that first few weeks, although some friends, not necessarily ones I expected, were wonderful, and Big Sis was a pragmatic rock of support. Other friends, fair weather ones it seems, were meh, so what, be a feminist and get over it. Reach out now and find friends for they are assuredly there.

    The worst part of all for me too was dinner, which I pretty much cancelled, eating nothing much adult early with the kids. I really lost it one lonely Saturday afternoon when I unthinkingly put out two cups for some arvo tea. I smashed one of them angrily and dissolved into very bitter tears and drank half a bottle of gin into the night. After that, I began the process of climbing out of the hole. Everyone does it in different ways, coping with the sudden loss of a life lived with someone else, the beautiful security of it. Natalie Joyce did it her way, and good on her.

    Bushkid, you may know this already, if so then I am re-telling it for myself just in case – you will find your own way, it will happen for you and life will become livable again, with new habits and fond memories – the latter not what a cruel desertion allows for a long time, so you do have something better there: the immediate memory of a fine man on which to reframe new meanings for your future around the treasured picture of your past. Cry when you must, and let music and poetry bring the tears, let it comfort you, and use it to finally bring you peace and help to bounce you back again into life and engagement with others.

  135. Oh come on

    I don’t see it that way, JC. It’s a bad idea to circle the wagons around AJ’s perspectives. Circling the wagons around his right to express them – sure.

  136. Armadillo

    Dot, AJ is a crank. He is. That doesn’t mean he’s not being fitted up for the Sandy Hook stuff and other things. I think he is.

    The left will “fit up” anyone when it suits. Exhibit A – Joe Biden. He’s been hair sniffing his entire career. Totally ignored until he indicated he might actually run for the “top job”, as in the President.

    Pretty easy to figure out who threw him under the bus. Watch carefully to see who they start quietly putting forward as a possible candidate for 2020. I doubt it will be whom people think.

  137. Oh come on

    The left will “fit up” anyone when it suits

    Thanks Captain Obvious!

  138. Top Ender

    Bought a Best of ELO the other day.

    Not heard much these days, and a bit all too much to a formula, but a lot of talent there:

  139. memoryvault

    Great stuff Egg. Keep em coming.
    Now for a little Stones.

  140. Steve trickler

    Filter check.

    Good fun and hilarious. People are going back in time and discovering the past.



  141. Oh come on

    Biden’s an absolute dickhead, anyway. It’s a bad idea to lead the charge against him, but there’s nothing wrong with prompting the woke left to live up to their rules and have them take him out. This is politically and morally sound.

  142. Bruce in WA

    When I was young, she was the most sensual, beautiful, vulnerable lady I (n)ever knew.

  143. Steve trickler

    Bruce in WA
    #2980765, posted on April 6, 2019 at 1:02 am

    Excellent.

  144. Knuckle Dragger

    Looks like the Cat’s turned into a retro MTV.

    Lucky I’m watching Archer on Netflix as well.

  145. memoryvault

    Thanks for that, Bruce.
    Fancy that. Emma Peel.
    Oh how I was in lust with that lady.

    Now a serve of Meatloaf

  146. Steve trickler

    Knuckle Dragger
    #2980768, posted on April 6, 2019 at 1:10 am
    Looks like the Cat’s turned into a retro MTV.

    Only for the time being, KD. MTV has been shit and always will be. Much like Rage on our ABC. A few moments in time, you get some gems?

    Like this. Bloody marvelous.



  147. Bruce in WA

    Oh how I was in lust with that lady.

    Weren’t we all!

  148. memoryvault

    Since Marilyn’s been gone, I’m usually up by 5.00am.
    I play this at full volume as the sun comes up.

  149. Steve trickler

    Hang on. I doubt Rage has ever played this.

  150. memoryvault

    I guess it must be bed time.
    When Marilyn and I got married in a small church in Carnarvon (WA) all those years ago, she chose this song to be played as she came down the little aisle to join me.

    My son chose to play it to mark the close of the Memorial Service on Bribie.

    Our song

  151. Bruce in WA

    Sleep tight, MV.

  152. Steve trickler

    Carnarvon, MV?

    Were you in town when Cyclone Alby brushed past.

    I was walking in the mangroves as a young lad and getting boils on my leg around that time.

  153. Steve trickler

    It is late at night. Let us try again.



  154. Steve trickler

    Steve trickler
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    #2980794, posted on April 6, 2019 at 3:57 am

    Sinc. Please sort the filter out.

    Why does the above go into moderation?

  155. Steve trickler

    Word Press is Google. Things we learn. Hahaa.

  156. bespoke

    Bushkid

    Not very good at these things but take care.

  157. notafan

    J dism isn’t a matriarchal religion/society, other than for establishing belongingness

    the only parent you could guarantee is yours back in the day of r ape and p illage is your mother (not so much in the modern west)

  158. areff

    Cassie, don’t cast out young Jussie on a technicality. He needs guidance, love and support.

    Someone should introduce him to Dylan Voller. They’d make the perfect couple.

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