Wednesday Forum: April 3, 2019

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  1. dover_beach

    You know none of this makes sense, but global warming is a religion and reason plays no part.

    This is an idiotic claim for two reasons. Firstly, anyone who thinks that global warming has no political rationale is deluded by their own rhetoric. Secondly, the rhetoric of religion being ‘devoid of reason’ is a historically and philosophically bankrupt claim that also aids and abets the interests of the Left in their present and never-ending war against Western culture.

  2. candy

    The whole idea is to not deliver Brexit.
    2+ years of working out just how to scramble things up enough to make it undoable.

    I’m not sure it was deliberate though, thefrollickingmole. Ms May seems to have a lack of direction and goals. She does not seem to be a decision maker.

  3. CONFIRMED: The Catholic Church is cucked by childless old spinsters who are on committees to buy a new water urn, but also communist, atheist, “laicised” “nuns”.

    Orthodox looking like the real deal more and more…

  4. notafan

    Lol at the pseudo Catholic calling something ‘karma’

    an expert on Northern Ireland too

    is there nothing that the man in the bullypulpit won’t pronounce on?

  5. notafan

    FWFNT

    not necessarily spinsters but they are around in every church, always have been.

    The Orthodox will have their share.

  6. OldOzzie

    Shorten thinks big

    Seems there are at least 650 people excited about a Bill Shorten prime ministership.

    Tonight, the Labor leader will give his sixth and last budget reply speech. Then Shorten will be driven over Lake Burley Griffin to the Labor Business Forum’s budget reply night function, which has been co-ordinated by the forum’s redoubtable director Kate Dykes and overseen by Labor national secretary Noah Carroll.

    Tellingly, the venue for the drinks and dinner is the largest function space in Canberra: the National Convention Centre.

    That’s an upgrade in size from last year’s venue, the National Museum of Australia, which itself was an upgrade from the smaller venue used for previous efforts: Hotel Realm.

    To go by the Canberra Venue Index, things are looking good for Team Red.

    Tonight’s gathering is not cheap.

    As Shorten reveals his campaign lines in the House of Representatives, up to 1000 true believers, lobbyists and hangers-on will gather in the Convention Centre foyer. The cheapest tickets sold for $250.

    The dinner in the ballroom (capacity 650) with Shorten and his shadow ministry is a much pricier affair. The VIP tickets cost $1700 — even more than the priciest tickets for Scott Morrison’s Great Hall function in Parliament House on budget night (flogged for $1500 a head).

    As well as a priceless opportunity to schmooze with the ascendant shadow ministry, guests will be entertained by MC Anthony Albanese, who will introduce the night’s guest of honour: the man who beat him to the Labor leadership, Shorten.

    Yet another sign that Albo is in the Labor tent and playing nicely.

    Also on the night’s agenda, a crowd favourite from last year’s do: treasurer-in-waiting Chris Bowen being interviewed by his NSW Labor Right ally Kristina Keneally.

    How much longer till her loyal party work is rewarded with a spot on Shorten’s front bench?

  7. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes – AUTISM. Many such cases!
    8:35 PM · Mar 28, 2014

  8. Leigh Lowe

    But a day later the bin in Weston-super-Mare was broken into and the knives were taken.

    I am sure lawyers are already concocting defences for clients whose DNA is discovered on a murder weapon …
    “Dunno mate. Last I saw it was when I dropped it in the knife amnesty bin.”

  9. calli

    Hmmm. 2014.

    I wonder if, as more information surfaced, Trump changed his mind?

    Disown that tweet now, sir, or the Stimpman will regurgitate it!

  10. calli

    Ahhh. I should have known.

    It’s a Talking Point.

  11. OldOzzie

    Younger voters have been taken in by Chris Bowen’s franking credits grab

    Robert Gottliebsen

    In the final half-hour of the budget lock up I discovered how hard it is for the older generation to convince their children that the ALP’s retirement and pensioner tax on cash franking credits is grossly unfair.

    On Budget night, once their copy is written, many journalists must wait for the Treasurer to begin speaking before they can leave the lockup, so they often swap conclusions over a coffee.

    My conclusion that younger Australians would be pitched against their parents in the looming election caught the attention several millennial-generation journalists (not from The Australian). All of them believed that Chris Bowen’s tax was right and one even complained that my articles were making his father more and more angry. There was nodding from the group.

    Chris Bowen has sold the younger generation the proposition that stopping cash franking credits is fair. So they are not listening to their parents or anyone else.

    One journalist quoted the Bowen analogy in which a nurse earns money and pays tax whereas big company profits become tax free when they are paid out in dividends to self-funded retirees in pension mode.

    On behalf of the older generation I decided to engage them in debate and whereas they ignore their parents’ protests, they were at least prepared to discuss the matter with me.

    They probably thought I was a victim of the ALP tax but because I have continued working until well into my 70s I have been able to accumulate sufficient savings to be not affected by the tax. But I watch my less well-off friends being savaged so I do get a little emotional.

    But I also realise that many in the younger generation, including many journalists, are struggling. They have no sympathy for the retired generation whom they think have had it too easy. That includes their parents, although many are very grateful for the free childcare provided by grandparents.

    My response was that as a community, and via the parliament, we have decided that if you have accumulated savings in superannuation and you reach a certain age, you can declare up to $1.6 million of your superannuation to be “in pension mode” and the returns from those funds are tax-free.

    Part of those tax-free returns are in franking credits received in cash as part of the dividends people receive on their shares. The shares have been purchased at prices that incorporate that franking credit return. But then suddenly part of the returns are to be removed.

    Many younger people do not understand franking credits and their real issue is that they believe that, compared to them, the older generation is being treated too generously including being able to save large sums in super. That’s why they don’t listen to their parents’ protests.

    Accordingly, the real issue that should be debated is whether the superannuation pension mode structure is too high and whether we are too generous to pensioners with savings.

    Alternatively, is the overall franking credit structure too generous to those who save?

    Tackling these issues via a half-baked retirement and pensioner tax is wrong. I don’t think I convinced them but they kept listening.

    But I did strike a chord when I pointed out that since federation we had always taxed people of the same age, with the same assets and income in the same way. Chris Bowen’s retirement and pensioner tax breaks that mould. They could not believe Chris Bowen would do that let alone include pensioners in his net. They hadn’t read my material.

    And so I related what my readers have read so often: people who save via industry and some retail superannuation funds receive their cash franking credits and those who save elsewhere, including some retail funds and self-managed funds do not receive their cash franking credits entitlements.

    For the first time in our history we are taxing people on the basis of who manages their money and not on the basis of their assets and income.

    And some pensioners get punished if they saved via a self-managed fund and are entitled to a part pension. Under Labor’s original announcement, they are to be taxed if they did not register for the pension by the end of March last year. ALP politicians tell “fibs” when they say pensioners are immune unless it is planned to change the rules.

    All that resonated and some of the journalists could see the tax was clearly unfair. But it’s equally unfair that they can’t afford a house and or gain adequate wage rises. We are simply spreading the unfairness around.

    I was surprised I was not asked how Chris Bowen has engineered “protection” from his tax in industry and big retail funds. We all know the answer. The superannuation income of the journalists, nurses and other workers attract tax in a big fund. And that tax is pooled with the retired people, so there is a net tax payable by the fund and thus the franking credit entitlement is retained. It’s an artificial device because each person in a fund has an individual entitlement.

    Most media people, including talk back radio people, don’t understand franking credits and so are reluctant to debate the shadow treasurer, who looks like becoming the treasurer.

    But 1 million-plus Australians are being treated very badly. One day someone other than veteran journalists like me and a few others will stand up for them. And to the parents of journalists, even though your children will not listen, keep diving them mad, especially if you are minding their children free of charge.

  12. Stimpson J. Cat

    I wonder if, as more information surfaced, Trump changed his mind?

    The real question is, if more information surfaces, can YOU change your mind on any given topic, at any given time?
    What other people think is irrelevant.

  13. dover_beach

    not necessarily spinsters but they are around in every church, always have been.

    The Orthodox will have their share.

    Indeed.

  14. calli

    Why is that the “real” question, Stimpy? It’s just another question. To which I think you already know the answer.

    Oddly, what Trump thinks seems relevant to you, otherwise you wouldn’t have commented.

  15. twostix

    Labor musn’t win this election for the simple fact that they’ll bring in UK style laws allowing the AFP and ASIO to arrest and terrorise normal middle aged people (definitionally not Labor voters) for posting their heretical opinions about leftwing dogma Twitter.

    Like they do in the dystopian UK.

  16. areff

    Doomlord: I usually scan up from the bottom of threads, which is a peril because I start reading Numbers comments before getting to the icon that establishes their provenance.

    Were icons — Numbers’, at any rate — to be placed below comments, the waste of eyeball ergs would be eliminated.

  17. Hay Stockard

    Sent an email to Pizza Hut saying they won’t get my custom for pandering to the Fascist Left. No loss. Never eat their shit anyway.

  18. thefrollickingmole

    The Good Friday agreement, which has saved lives and opened up the future of both the Irish Republic and Ulster, is a progressive agreement.

    Brought to you via the scary guns numbers thinks is a bad thing, paid for largely by Yanks

    Usually, the Treasury Department spokesman said, the guns are shipped without being broken down, and without ammunition, often packed in huge containers with, for example, household goods. “To them,” the spokesman said of the members of the I.R.A., “one gun is a large item.”

    A permit is required for the purchase of guns in New York State, so most of the guns shipped out of New York illicitly are purchased by I.R.A. operatives or sympathizers out of state, particularly in the Middle West, the spokesman said.

    There is believed to be a single “consolidator,” an Irishman who travels under an alias, who makes the rounds every two weeks or so to collect guns from their purchasers. lie also makes the arrangements for packing and shipping.

    Nick Spanos and Stephen Melrose were unavailable for comment.

    Still whats a few “broken eggs” when you are advancing “Progressiveism” comrades.

    Heres “progress”, all the way back to the “winter of discontent”..
    The state should provide essential services to the economy (nationalised/state services). There should be a state bank, a state insurance company, state fuel company, state IT company (telephone/broadband etc), state health system, state transport and state schools & universities. Sinn Féin does support private enterprise as being essential to an economy, but we also recognise the hugely important part the state has to play in economic success.

    plus
    A new universal public health system for Ireland that provides care to all free at the point of delivery, on the basis of need alone, and funded from general fair and progressive taxation. In the 26 Counties this will mean an end to the HSE and to the ‘two tier system’ and will include comprehensive community-based primary health and social care services for all, including General Practitioner and dental services and an abolition of all prescription charges. As a stepping stone to a free universal healthcare system, medical cards to e immediately extended to all those earning on or below the minimum wage.

  19. Zatara

    I realize I get a little too passionate about this sometimes, but we all have an obligation to do nothing less than change the culture in this country….. This is English jurisprudential culture, a white man’s culture. That’s got to change it’s got to change.

    Joe Biden discussing the common law and how it is anti-wimmin.

  20. notafan

    The one in Tasmania, for example, is not a spinster

    money will buy you things

  21. Stimpson J. Cat

    Oddly, what Trump thinks seems relevant to you, otherwise you wouldn’t have commented.

    Of course.
    I find it interesting.
    It’s possible to believe vaccines are necessary AND also potentially dangerous, at the same time.

    It’s also possible to critique people and ideas and still like them.

    It’s why I still love all of you guys.

    This is not rocket science.

  22. areff

    Perfectly fine, MH, other than encountering Numbers’ constant vacuities.

  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Socialist Senator Doug Cameron bows out

    By Agencies
    AAP
    5 minutes ago April 4, 2019
    Comments

    Retiring Labor senator Doug Cameron has put his long career in unions and politics down to a lifelong commitment to a single pursuit.

    “It all comes down to one thing: socialism,” before noting Coalition senators had almost fainted at the suggestion.

    That prompted applause from dozens of Labor senators and MPs who gathered in the chamber to see him off.

    Senator Cameron said he subscribed to the view that socialism was against war, poverty, monopolies, racial discrimination and greed.

    “It’s another word for equality,” he said on Wednesday.

    He pointed out the Coalition had a socialist in their ranks — pointing the finger at Nationals senator John Williams who will join his mate from across the aisle in retirement at the next election.

    “My old mate Wacka Williams over there is an agrarian socialist if I’ve ever seen one,” Senator Cameron said.

    “What other reason could there be for a farmer and a trade unionist to get along so well?” Senator Cameron reserved a trademark “rabble” sledge at the Coalition government in his thick Scottish accent.

    He spoke about migrating to Australia as an economic refugee in 1973 before working as a fitter at the Liddell power plant in NSW where he started his ascension through the union movement.

    It wasn’t all droll trips down memory lane.

    The Labor frontbencher savaged far-right crossbenchers Pauline Hanson and Fraser Anning as “incubators of hate and intolerance”.

    “I strongly urge working class Queenslanders to give this treacherous, treasonous rabble the boot at the upcoming election,” he said. He also targeted the Howard government’s industrial relations laws and attacks on unions before welcoming the prospect of a Shorten-led Labor election victory next month.

    “The Labor Party again feels like the Labor Party I joined many years ago. It is unashamedly progressive, pro-worker, pro-women, outward-looking and confident,” Senator Cameron said.

    From the Oz. I’m remembering the footage on the A.B.C, before “Wee Dougie” went into politics. A Union official, sitting at his power desk, handmade silk shirt, and Hugo Boss tie. All the trappings of “the big end of town.” Hanging behind the door were the high vis jacket, and jeans, worn, while rallying the “bruvvas” on the picket line.

  24. Roger

    Toowoomba might be a good place for him.

    In Number’s parish?

  25. OldOzzie

    Australia’s demand for fuel growing as uptake of electric vehicles lags

    Primrose Riordan
    Political Reporter

    As of December 2018 Australia has 18 days worth of petrol supplies.

    Australia’s demand for fuel is growing faster than other nations while the country’s uptake of electric vehicles and alternative fuels in lagging behind creating fuel security concerns, a new report has suggested.

    Energy Minister Angus Taylor released the interim fuel security report today ahead of the expected federal election and vowed to deliver fuel security without costing consumers.

    “The Government will enact these and future changes in a manner that does not impact the price of petrol at the pump and put more pressure on household budgets,” Mr Taylor said.

    “This measured approach stands in stark contrast to Labor’s reckless policy which will cost Australians between $10 and $20 billion and will hit consumers at the bowser.”

    The report does not include any recommendations, and there will be a public consultation process before a final report is released laying out how to fix Australia’s fuel security problems.

    The energy department said in the report that Australia falls behind other OECD nations with fuel supply challenges in terms of the rates of increased vehicle fuel efficiencies and the uptake of new vehicle technologies.

    “Other countries with similar reliance on imports and low domestic production are taking steps to reduce demand,” the department said.

    “For example, (South Korea) and Japan are both almost 100 per cent reliant on oil imports…Both countries have targeted and ambitious plans to reduce demand by transitioning some sectors away from reliance on oil imports.

    “(South Korea) has a target of 250,000 electric vehicles by 2020, which it hopes to achieve by incentives of US$12,000 for electric vehicles.

    “Japan has a long-term Hydrogen Strategy which focuses on development of fuel cell technology. Both countries have policies to promote biofuel production, particularly waste-to-fuel technology.”

    The department said in contrast to Australia, other countries had “government policies implementing specific electric vehicle targets and strict fuel efficiency standards combined with incentives for low- and zero-emission vehicles”.

    The energy department declared it was time to “rethink” Australia’s domestic fuel security and prepare for future disruptions.

    “Given the focus on electricity and gas for the past couple of years, it is prudent to rethink our domestic fuel security and ensure that we are prepared for any potential shocks,” the department said.

    “Australia may be left behind as the world moves away from oil-based fuels to other forms of transport energy such as electricity and hydrogen.”

    The department said it was “easy to become complacent” as Australia has experienced over 40 years of relatively stable supply.

    As of December 2018 Australia has 18 days of petrol consumption, 22 days of Diesel, 23 days of het fuel and 24 days of crude oil. Overall Australia has 53 days of fuel supply under the International Energy Agency’s calculation, which makes Australia the only non-compliant member.

    Australia is currently attempting to lobby the IEA to calculate Australia’s supply differently to bring the country up to 85 days.

    Australia has an increasing reliance on imports of liquid fuels, and our demand is growing higher than other western nations and expected to keep growing until 2030.

    “In the last 10 years, our demand for liquid fuel has grown by 1.5 per cent each year — marginally more than our population growth. This rate of growth is high — around three times faster than the United States and Canada.”

    Unlike with the National Electricity Market, there is no holistic accounting for Australia’s fuel supplies and the energy department is working on a new way to count Australia’s supplies.

    “Imports increase the complexity and length of supply chains and expose supplies to external geopolitical risks.”

    “Unlike the National Electricity Market, there is no organisation with a holistic view of the whole liquid fuel sector.”

    “The risk is that, with no real-time monitoring of supply and demand, a response to disruptions cannot be effectively coordinated and the individual actions of companies may have unintended consequences that may impact adversely on other parts of the supply chain.”

    The report also said extreme weather events “associated with climate change” are likely to become more severe and regular, impacting fuel security.

    “The increasing regularity and severity of these weather events needs to be considered, and this includes understanding what contingency planning industry has in place for managing the risks associated with climate change.”

    Global demand for liquid fuel is set to drop as new technologies, electric cars and alternative fuels become more competitive.

    Mr Taylor said the government, if elected, would work with key stakeholders to review the Liquid Fuel Emergency Act, improve transparency and oversight of the fuel industry and continue to lobby the IEA to change the calculation of Australia’s fuel supply.

    The report also said extreme weather events “associated with climate change” are likely to become more severe and regular, impacting fuel security.

    “The increasing regularity and severity of these weather events needs to be considered, and this includes understanding what contingency planning industry has in place for managing the risks associated with climate change.”

  26. struth

    The greatest honour one could possibly hope for in this country might be a VC, but in this day and age, a censure motion from the hated traitors in our parliament comes close.

  27. I’m remembering the footage on the A.B.C, before “Wee Dougie” went into politics. A Union official, sitting at his power desk, handmade silk shirt, and Hugo Boss tie. All the trappings of “the big end of town.” Hanging behind the door were the high vis jacket, and jeans, worn, while rallying the “bruvvas” on the picket line.

    +1
    He has the audacity to call Wacka Williams “socialist”.
    Wacka Williams had on a flannel work shirt, steel cap boots, & hanging behind the door were a Jackie Howe & Dungarees.

    Spot the difference?

  28. thefrollickingmole

    twostix

    After Mr Miller questioned why the complainant was being described as a “victim” if no crime had been committed, the officer told him: “We need to check your thinking”.

    Numbers is off self pleasuring to this line, its so “progressive”.

  29. Roger

    I strongly urge working class Queenslanders to give this treacherous, treasonous rabble the boot at the upcoming election,” he said.

    Scanning up, I thought the speaker was referring to the Labor Party.

    Ask working class Queenslanders presently how they feel about being gouged by state owned electricity retailers to prop up Treasury’s coffers? Meanwhile they’ll be turned away from the hospital emergency department if it’s anything other than a life and death matter because there are no beds and school start times have to be staggered because there aren’t enough classrooms. Oh, and all the while the working class champions of George Street are scheming to make electricity even more expensive and unreliable and put more workers out of work.

  30. notafan

    Possibly Roger

    but CL I think mentioned there are a lot of homeschool families in Toowomba

    I know a local parish with a ‘traditional’ priest has attracted homeschool families

    plus one family of homeschoolers I know would love such a priest in their rural parish

  31. zyconoclast

    I will wager that Septimus does – but he will call it ‘Pane di Formaggio di Casa’, to be eaten with a tall glass of what he will call ‘juice of the kitchen tap’ – once he learns how to say it in Italian.

    Sounds delicious:
    succo del rubinetto della cucina

  32. Tom

    Today’s most interesting factoid:

    Population in the world is currently (2018-2019) growing at a rate of around 1.07% per year (down from 1.09% in 2018, 1.12% in 2017 and 1.14% in 2016). The current average population increase is estimated at 82 million people per year.

    If the population growth rate is decreasing by 2% p.a., as indicated above, the population of the world will start shrinking inside five years.

    Which will destroy the Malthusian foundation of the left’s new post-Christian animist religions, like Goebbels warmening, which was invented by communist political activists to convince children that the human race is evil.

  33. Man investigated by police for retweeting transgender limerick

    Shocking. Mark Dreyfus will be a great attorney general, much like Thomas Cromwell or Sir Richard Rich.

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    The incremental change that has gone unnoticed for so long in England is now building speed at an exponential rate.

    The country – nay, empire – that has had one of the world’s dominant navies since 1340. The island that owned, or took, large swathes of Europe and held them for centuries, and the nation that brought Western civilisation to half the globe is now unrecognisable, hoist by the very civilisation that allowed others to attack it from within.

    The nation which, without significant complaint, sent generations of men to fight and die for it on three continents over two global wars, which endured the Blitz and triumphed, is now a pansified, simpering, appeasement-riddled mess. Hitler was eighty years too early when he declared it ‘a nation of shopkeepers’.

    Ghettos, no go zones for whiteys, terror of prosecuting gangs of serial child r#pists, people being arrested for publicly disagreeing with the accepted narrative.

    Submission to an unelected cohort of European nobodies who enforce how the English should live their lives, in excruciating detail. The correct size of bananas, for example.

    Finally, a referendum comes where the English could choose to leave or stay. The elites chose to stay, the people chose to leave. The elites then manufacture a ‘deal’ where the English can leave, but only if the EU lets it.

    Edward I, Henry V, Marlborough, Wellington, Victoria and Churchill must be turning in their graves. At the critical time when the English demanded leadership, they have been sorely disappointed. A cynic would suggest an English Reconquista is the only remaining solution – not so much a Hastings, but more of a Glorious Revolution of 1688.

  35. Roger

    Possibly Roger

    Tongue planted firmly in cheek, nota.

    The advent of the good father among the Catholic liberati of Toowoomba would set feathers flying!

  36. zyconoclast

    Jim Crow was bad because…

    Ethnic charter schools seek judge’s protection in desegregation lawsuit

    Two charter schools that cater to African-Americans have asked a judge to protect them from a lawsuit that seeks to desegregate schools across the Twin Cities metro area.

  37. notafan

    Would not be fair to him though Roger

    our priests need friends and supporters not nasty bitter hags that blench at the idea of making their confession

  38. After Mr Miller questioned why the complainant was being described as a “victim” if no crime had been committed, the officer told him: “We need to check your thinking”.

    That’s very close to what got said to me yesterday.
    Wow, cops aren’t able to have an original thought. Who woulda guessed it?

    My twitter following has risen 30% on the strength of posting pictures of yesterday’s incident.

  39. The Illinois House of Representatives has passed a bill mandating that all publicly-traded companies headquartered in the state will need to have a woman and an African-American sitting on its corporate board by 2021.
    Failure to comply could result in fines of up to $300,000.

    Does it have to be one of each?
    Or can they get a “twofer”?

  40. notafan

    SATP

    congratulations on now having four twitter followers

  41. congratulations on now having four twitter followers

    Quick question: 30% of Four is how many?

    (numbers are expected to reduce when they discover there’s not going to be a string of such lurid stories)

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Illinois House of Representatives has passed a bill mandating that all publicly-traded companies headquartered in the state will need to have a woman and an African-American sitting on its corporate board by 2021.

    The exodus is going to be awesome.

  43. cohenite

    David Stockwell’s excellent article on the Bradfield scheme is up at OLO. Pity the government isn’t financing this instead of the stupid pump hydro ratbaggery:

    http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=20241&page=0

  44. Tom

    Add Creepy Joe to the list of Democrats (led by Pocahontas Warren, who was knocked out by her own stupidity), who won’t be running for President in 2020.

    The loonier they are, the more entertaining for us. Sad.

  45. OldOzzie

    Barnaby Joyce’s ex-wife Natalie shows off new physique at bodybuilding competition


    Barnaby Joyce’s ex-wife Natalie has become a bikini-wearing bodybuilder, winning two medals in her very first competition.

    The mother of Joyce’s four daughters shed 15kg and transformed her body after the former Nationals leader left her for his much younger former staffer Vikki Campion.

    Ms Joyce said her daughters “thought I had gone mad when I told them I would be strutting my stuff wearing nothing more than a skimpy bikini, flexing my muscles for all to see”.

    But the 49-year-old took fourth-place medals in the First Timers and Miss Fitness Model Momma categories at the I Compete Naturally (ICN) North Coast Classic bodybuilding competition at New Lambton on Sunday.

    ICN NSW president Rab Mehajer said: “She has come a long way. She graced the stage remarkably well for a 49-year-old woman taking on women in their 20s.”

    In an interview with Woman’s Day just before the competition, Ms Joyce said the very public breakdown of her marriage — with her ex-husband now expecting a second son with Ms Campion — had left her “in not a good place”.

    “I had two choices: either unravel, or shake myself off and aim to get the best out of myself,” she said.

    “In June last year I looked in the mirror and thought ‘I’m not going to let someone else’s appalling behaviour derail me’. So I joined the local gym, and I’ve never looked back. And I’ve always wanted to compete in a bodybuilding comp.”

  46. Mother Lode

    succo del rubinetto della cucina

    Yes!

    I want one of those!

  47. bespoke

    congratulations on now having four twitter followers

    LOL! but stay of my turf, lady. 😉

  48. Cardimona

    ‘I’m not going to let someone else’s appalling behaviour derail me’.

    She’s behaved quite appallingly herself, at times.

    And female bodybuilders? Yuck….
    Nearly as sub-human as cyclists.

  49. notafan

    Frances Abbot and Mrs Joyce

    odd choices

  50. notafan

    Congratulations on the second grandson Cardimona

  51. OldOzzie

    cohenite
    #2979232, posted on April 4, 2019 at 12:19 pm

    David Stockwell’s excellent article on the Bradfield scheme is up at OLO. Pity the government isn’t financing this instead of the stupid pump hydro ratbaggery:

    http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=20241&page=0

    cohenite,

    thanks – an excellent Article

    Over-hyped the Bradfield Scheme as initially proposed may have been, pumping water over the Great Divide and running down existing watercourses to Lake Eyre. However, there appears to be a route for a fully gravitational aqueduct with an ideal gradient of 1:5000. The route starts near Niall at 420m Australian Height Datum (AHD) within a potential Hell’s Gate Dam extent at the headwaters of the Burdekin River. It crosses the Flinders Highway between Homestead and Pentland at 375m AHD, and on to Lake Buchanan at 320m AHD, a salt lake perched on the Great Dividing Range. Then it’s downhill to the entire Mitchell Grass Downs, including the towns of Barcaldine at 267m AHD, Aramac, Muttaburra, Longreach, Ilfracombe, Winton and Richmond to Julia Creek at 150m AHD. The dams and route do not overlap with any protected areas or endangered ecosystems.

    However, there appears to be a route for a fully gravitational aqueduct with an ideal gradient of 1:5000

    Something the Roman’s did many times successfully over centuries – and we call oursleves “civilised”

  52. Roger

    The poor record of New Zealand in United Nations votes concerning Israel and the Palestinians has facilitated terrorism against Israeli citizens.

    When the post-Christchurch political theatre and virtue signalling is done, may we expect a change of heart from NZ vis a vis Israel?

  53. John Constantine

    GNC graincorp announces it is run by the smartest people in the room.

    Proudly boasts it is entering into Agricultures largest derivitive position, where financial engineers guarantee to level out graincorps cashflow over coming years, so fees paid in good years fund shortfalls in bad years, minus the consultants and financial engineers profits that are paid every year, good or bad.

    Splitting the company up to fight off the vulture fund could appear at first sight to be a desperate kneejerk response to looming loss of directorships.

    Comrades

  54. John Constantine

    BREAKING: VicRoads as we know it could cease to exist by the end of the year under a plan by the Andrews Government to merge it into a larger Department of Transport.

  55. Viva

    The incremental change that has gone unnoticed for so long in England is now building speed at an exponential rate.

    The country – nay, empire – that has had one of the world’s dominant navies since 1340. The island that owned, or took, large swathes of Europe and held them for centuries, and the nation that brought Western civilisation to half the globe is now unrecognisable, hoist by the very civilisation that allowed others to attack it from within.

    The nation which, without significant complaint, sent generations of men to fight and die for it on three continents over two global wars, which endured the Blitz and triumphed, is now a pansified, simpering, appeasement-riddled mess. Hitler was eighty years too early when he declared it ‘a nation of shopkeepers’.

    Ghettos, no go zones for whiteys, terror of prosecuting gangs of serial child r#pists, people being arrested for publicly disagreeing with the accepted narrative.

    Submission to an unelected cohort of European nobodies who enforce how the English should live their lives, in excruciating detail. The correct size of bananas, for example.

    Finally, a referendum comes where the English could choose to leave or stay. The elites chose to stay, the people chose to leave. The elites then manufacture a ‘deal’ where the English can leave, but only if the EU lets it.

    Edward I, Henry V, Marlborough, Wellington, Victoria and Churchill must be turning in their graves. At the critical time when the English demanded leadership, they have been sorely disappointed. A cynic would suggest an English Reconquista is the only remaining solution – not so much a Hastings, but more of a Glorious Revolution of 1688.

    An excellent if excoriating summation of the demise of the once Great Britain which stood alone against Hitler and his hordes.

  56. OldOzzie

    Why Hanson is right to be angry

    The Mocker

    You may think Al Jazeera’s documentary ‘How to Sell a Massacre’, which ABC featured last week, revealing One Nation’s attempts to solicit foreign funding with the aid of the National Rifle Association in order to undermine Australia’s gun laws, was a cracker of a story.

    But that is nothing compared to what the Qatari state-funded news service has for you next week. Using covert cameras and recorders, a brave undercover reporter risks his life to pose as gay man in Doha, where sharia law mandates imprisonment and brutal lashings for homosexuality … no, I am just kidding. About the scoop that is, not about Qatar’s medieval punishments for the crime of being gay or any other of the country’s numerous human rights violations, one of them being suppressing freedom of expression. It is a crime in Qatar to criticise its government, the ruling family or Islam for that matter, but as One Nation discovered to its detriment, Al Jazeera is very big on holding the decadent West to account.

    The news organisation has faced constant accusations of being a mouthpiece for the Qatari government. In 2017, following yet another allegation of corruption over the country’s successful and controversial bid to hold the most prestigious and lucrative soccer tournament in the world, Al Jazeera breezily announced in an opening paragraph when reporting the story that “Qatar’s attorney-general has refuted new allegations of bribery against the Gulf country over its award of the 2022 World Football Cup.” Exactly how they were supposedly refuted we are not told. As even a cadet journalist knows, one denies allegations; they are refuted only when evidence proves them to be wrong. Al Jazeera’s educated and impeccably well-spoken journalists would know this distinction.

    Only last month The Times, having obtained leaked documents, reported that Qatar, through Al Jazeera, secretly offered soccer’s world governing body, FIFA, $400m for a television contract just 21 days before the country was awarded the right to host the 2022 World Cup in 2010. Included in the contract was an additional and unprecedented $100 million “success fee” for FIFA if Qatari’s host bid was successful. The matter is now the subject of an investigation by Swiss police and — oh silly me; here I am distracting you when I should be talking about those One Nation infidels.

    What I actually meant to say, as The Sydney Morning Herald columnist and sports journalist Peter FitzSimons fawningly wrote on Sunday, “Not for nothing is Al Jazeera such a respected news organisation. Its undercover sting exposing One Nation operatives going after money from the NRA was first-class.”

    It certainly was first-class in the sense that money was no issue for Al Jazeera’s investigative unit, which provided the resources and funding for a three-year project. Through establishing a bogus lobby group, Gun Rights Australia, businessman turned undercover journalist Rodger Muller was able to gain the confidence of One Nation Queensland state leader Steve Dickson and James Ashby, chief of staff to senator Pauline Hanson, the party leader. Taking advantage of Muller’s connections with the NRA, both Dickson and Ashby travelled to the United States last year to try to solicit up to $20 million from pro-gun groups in order to secure additional seats and weaken Australia’s strict gun laws. They were also given access to what was hailed as the NRA’s trade secrets in successfully countering gun-control reform.

    Now it is no secret the NRA detests and fears what Australia achieved with the National Firearms Agreement of 1996, particularly the restriction of semiautomatic weapons.

    Consequently it has long embarked on a disinformation campaign to try to discredit these reforms. It is not surprising One Nation found a sympathetic ear at the NRA’s headquarters. But the advice the organisation gave One Nation was your shameless yet straightforward combination of advocacy and propaganda. Accuse gun control advocates of exploiting atrocities for political gain, lobby politicians with a carrot and stick approach, maximise publicity of cases where disarmed citizens live in fear of marauding criminals armed to the teeth, cultivate journalists to have them write articles in favour of an armed citizenry — anyone who is familiar with the NRA and its history can tell you this is hardly news.

    That both One Nation officials returned to Australia empty-handed speaks volumes about their grand plans for a multi-million donation solicitation. It appears the NRA and their corporate sympathisers surmised that Dickson and Ashby were provincial hicks with a political nous to match. If Al Jazeera’s aim was to portray both men as the Beavis and Butt-Head of party apparatchiks, especially with the unedifying scenes featuring two half-cut buffoons, then it succeeded. Speaking of the exposé, respected political commentator George Megalogenis said: “I think it may actually sink One Nation as a political force in Australia”.

    If anything, it is likely to achieve the opposite, especially given the perception among voters, not entirely without substance, that One Nation is an underdog besieged by mainstream careerist politicians and an elitist media. Compounding this is the media’s sudden indifference to fundamental breaches of journalistic ethics and a philosophy of the end justifying the means when it comes to pursuing One Nation.

    Let’s begin with the covert recording and filming. The Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance’s position on that aspect is clear. “Use fair, responsible and honest means to obtain material,” its Journalist Code of Ethics mandates. “Identify yourself and your employer before obtaining any interview for publication or broadcast”.

    Appearing on ABC’s The Drum last week, The Guardian columnist Van Badham was dismissive of the breach. “One Nation went to the NSW state election saying they were going to DNA test indigenous people. Some kind of eugenic policy to determine — put that level of scrutiny on indigenous Australians,” she added. “And then to turn around and go ‘Oh this is terrible — secret cameras’. They want to blood test other Australians!” It was an amateurish attempt using relativism to distract from the point at hand, but it was also gross hypocrisy. Badham is vice-president of the MEAA’s Victorian division and sits on the organisation’s federal council. What other requirements of the code does she think can be arbitrarily discarded to suit her political prejudices?

    The other and far more concerning issue is entrapment. “If it wasn’t for Rodger Muller and the Islamist Al Jazeera network, One Nation would never, never have had any association with the NRA, Koch Industries or the Congressional Sportsmen’s dinner,” said Hanson last week. “They would never have gone to the United States full stop.” Peter Charley, the Al Jazeera executive producer behind the investigation acknowledges that Muller “went to One Nation and presented himself as somebody with multiple high-level NRA contacts” but adds “This was not a situation of Rodger luring them in against their better judgment, they were driving that.”

    But it was a case of luring Dickson and Ashby in and orchestrating their trip to the United States. In facilitating that Charley and Muller look less observer and more agent provocateur. As former producer of ABC’s Media Watch Misha Ketchell wrote last week for The Sydney Morning Herald: “This is the line that renders the gotcha story compromised. Journalists should not make the news, they should report it.” In creating the story, Al Jazeera is not a neutral scrutiniser but a player in the political process. “Hanson and her colleagues have every right to be deeply upset at their treatment at the hands of Al Jazeera and the ABC,” wrote Ketchell.

    That this was done at the behest of a foreign state-based broadcaster is also disconcerting, as Michael Stutchbury, editor-in-chief of The Australian Financial Review told ABC’s Insiders last Sunday. “You have Al Jazeera … very controversial even in the Arab world,” he said. “They’re using a lot of money, foreign money basically from Qataris … to entrap with a very elaborate sting … spending a lot of money to entrap an Australian political party.” He is correct. On that note are commentators prepared to accept without question that Al Jazeera’s motive for devoting enormous resources and funds to target an Australian political party openly hostile to Muslim immigration was purely for professional reasons?

    It is questions such as this which have been overlooked in the commentariat’s schadenfreude over One Nation’s drubbing, as has the abrogation of journalistic ethics, which still apply irrespective of a reporter’s distaste for that party. But it is detrimental only in the short-term for One Nation. As history has shown, the party enjoys its strongest support when its rivals use disproportionate and underhand methods to discredit it. Al Jazeera and the ABC have been quick to portray One Nation as the gun nuts without scruples, yet the means to which they resorted and the unforeseen consequences that could result may well be a case of both organisations having shot themselves in the foot.

  57. Farmer Gez

    “In June last year I looked in the mirror and thought ‘I’m not going to let someone else’s appalling behaviour derail me’. So I joined the local gym, and I’ve never looked back. And I’ve always wanted to compete in a bodybuilding comp.”

    “Always”
    Hmm, throws a bit of light on the reason Barnaby walked.

  58. twostix

    The nation which, without significant complaint, sent generations of men to fight and die for it on three continents over two global wars, which endured the Blitz and triumphed, is now a pansified, simpering, appeasement-riddled mess. Hitler was eighty years too early when he declared it ‘a nation of shopkeepers’.

    Ghettos, no go zones for whiteys, terror of prosecuting gangs of serial child r#pists, people being arrested for publicly disagreeing with the accepted narrative.

    Submission to an unelected cohort of European nobodies who enforce how the English should live their lives, in excruciating detail. The correct size of bananas, for example.

    Sons in the colonies have always suffered nostalgia for the place that exists only in th books, poems and songs written and exported to them from the younger sons and daughters of the upper classes back in the motherland.

    The above is the very essence of historical Britain.

  59. OldOzzie

    Why Hanson is right to be angry

    The Mocker

    You may think Al Jazeera’s documentary ‘How to Sell a Massacre’, which ABC featured last week, revealing One Nation’s attempts to solicit foreign funding with the aid of the National Rifle Association in order to undermine Australia’s gun laws, was a cracker of a story.

    But that is nothing compared to what the Qatari state-funded news service has for you next week. Using covert cameras and recorders, a brave undercover reporter risks his life to pose as gay man in Doha, where sharia law mandates imprisonment and brutal lashings for h#mosexuality … no, I am just kidding. About the scoop that is, not about Qatar’s medieval punishments for the crime of being gay or any other of the country’s numerous human rights violations, one of them being suppressing freedom of expression. It is a crime in Qatar to criticise its government, the ruling family or Islam for that matter, but as One Nation discovered to its detriment, Al Jazeera is very big on holding the decadent West to account.

    The news organisation has faced constant accusations of being a mouthpiece for the Qatari government. In 2017, following yet another allegation of corruption over the country’s successful and controversial bid to hold the most prestigious and lucrative soccer tournament in the world, Al Jazeera breezily announced in an opening paragraph when reporting the story that “Qatar’s attorney-general has refuted new allegations of bribery against the Gulf country over its award of the 2022 World Football Cup.” Exactly how they were supposedly refuted we are not told. As even a cadet journalist knows, one denies allegations; they are refuted only when evidence proves them to be wrong. Al Jazeera’s educated and impeccably well-spoken journalists would know this distinction.

    Only last month The Times, having obtained leaked documents, reported that Qatar, through Al Jazeera, secretly offered soccer’s world governing body, FIFA, $400m for a television contract just 21 days before the country was awarded the right to host the 2022 World Cup in 2010. Included in the contract was an additional and unprecedented $100 million “success fee” for FIFA if Qatari’s host bid was successful. The matter is now the subject of an investigation by Swiss police and — oh silly me; here I am distracting you when I should be talking about those One Nation infidels.

    What I actually meant to say, as The Sydney Morning Herald columnist and sports journalist Peter FitzSimons fawningly wrote on Sunday, “Not for nothing is Al Jazeera such a respected news organisation. Its undercover sting exposing One Nation operatives going after money from the NRA was first-class.”

    It certainly was first-class in the sense that money was no issue for Al Jazeera’s investigative unit, which provided the resources and funding for a three-year project. Through establishing a bogus lobby group, Gun Rights Australia, businessman turned undercover journalist Rodger Muller was able to gain the confidence of One Nation Queensland state leader Steve Dickson and James Ashby, chief of staff to senator Pauline Hanson, the party leader. Taking advantage of Muller’s connections with the NRA, both Dickson and Ashby travelled to the United States last year to try to solicit up to $20 million from pro-gun groups in order to secure additional seats and weaken Australia’s strict gun laws. They were also given access to what was hailed as the NRA’s trade secrets in successfully countering gun-control reform.

    Now it is no secret the NRA detests and fears what Australia achieved with the National Firearms Agreement of 1996, particularly the restriction of semiautomatic weapons.

    Consequently it has long embarked on a disinformation campaign to try to discredit these reforms. It is not surprising One Nation found a sympathetic ear at the NRA’s headquarters. But the advice the organisation gave One Nation was your shameless yet straightforward combination of advocacy and propaganda. Accuse gun control advocates of exploiting atrocities for political gain, lobby politicians with a carrot and stick approach, maximise publicity of cases where disarmed citizens live in fear of marauding criminals armed to the teeth, cultivate journalists to have them write articles in favour of an armed citizenry — anyone who is familiar with the NRA and its history can tell you this is hardly news.

    That both One Nation officials returned to Australia empty-handed speaks volumes about their grand plans for a multi-million donation solicitation. It appears the NRA and their corporate sympathisers surmised that Dickson and Ashby were provincial hicks with a political nous to match. If Al Jazeera’s aim was to portray both men as the Beavis and Butt-Head of party apparatchiks, especially with the unedifying scenes featuring two half-cut buffoons, then it succeeded. Speaking of the exposé, respected political commentator George Megalogenis said: “I think it may actually sink One Nation as a political force in Australia”.

    If anything, it is likely to achieve the opposite, especially given the perception among voters, not entirely without substance, that One Nation is an underdog besieged by mainstream careerist politicians and an elitist media. Compounding this is the media’s sudden indifference to fundamental breaches of journalistic ethics and a philosophy of the end justifying the means when it comes to pursuing One Nation.

    Let’s begin with the covert recording and filming. The Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance’s position on that aspect is clear. “Use fair, responsible and honest means to obtain material,” its Journalist Code of Ethics mandates. “Identify yourself and your employer before obtaining any interview for publication or broadcast”.

    Appearing on ABC’s The Drum last week, The Guardian columnist Van Badham was dismissive of the breach. “One Nation went to the NSW state election saying they were going to DNA test indigenous people. Some kind of eugenic policy to determine — put that level of scrutiny on indigenous Australians,” she added. “And then to turn around and go ‘Oh this is terrible — secret cameras’. They want to blood test other Australians!” It was an amateurish attempt using relativism to distract from the point at hand, but it was also gross hypocrisy. Badham is vice-president of the MEAA’s Victorian division and sits on the organisation’s federal council. What other requirements of the code does she think can be arbitrarily discarded to suit her political prejudices?

    The other and far more concerning issue is entrapment. “If it wasn’t for Rodger Muller and the Islamist Al Jazeera network, One Nation would never, never have had any association with the NRA, Koch Industries or the Congressional Sportsmen’s dinner,” said Hanson last week. “They would never have gone to the United States full stop.” Peter Charley, the Al Jazeera executive producer behind the investigation acknowledges that Muller “went to One Nation and presented himself as somebody with multiple high-level NRA contacts” but adds “This was not a situation of Rodger luring them in against their better judgment, they were driving that.”

    But it was a case of luring Dickson and Ashby in and orchestrating their trip to the United States. In facilitating that Charley and Muller look less observer and more agent provocateur. As former producer of ABC’s Media Watch Misha Ketchell wrote last week for The Sydney Morning Herald: “This is the line that renders the gotcha story compromised. Journalists should not make the news, they should report it.” In creating the story, Al Jazeera is not a neutral scrutiniser but a player in the political process. “Hanson and her colleagues have every right to be deeply upset at their treatment at the hands of Al Jazeera and the ABC,” wrote Ketchell.

    That this was done at the behest of a foreign state-based broadcaster is also disconcerting, as Michael Stutchbury, editor-in-chief of The Australian Financial Review told ABC’s Insiders last Sunday. “You have Al Jazeera … very controversial even in the Arab world,” he said. “They’re using a lot of money, foreign money basically from Qataris … to entrap with a very elaborate sting … spending a lot of money to entrap an Australian political party.” He is correct. On that note are commentators prepared to accept without question that Al Jazeera’s motive for devoting enormous resources and funds to target an Australian political party openly hostile to Muslim immigration was purely for professional reasons?

    It is questions such as this which have been overlooked in the commentariat’s schadenfreude over One Nation’s drubbing, as has the abrogation of journalistic ethics, which still apply irrespective of a reporter’s distaste for that party. But it is detrimental only in the short-term for One Nation. As history has shown, the party enjoys its strongest support when its rivals use disproportionate and underhand methods to discredit it. Al Jazeera and the ABC have been quick to portray One Nation as the gun nuts without scruples, yet the means to which they resorted and the unforeseen consequences that could result may well be a case of both organisations having shot themselves in the foot.

  60. calli

    Yes, Gez. I noticed that. I have revised my thinking on the issue.

    Why let others derail you when you can DIY?

  61. Roger

    An excellent if excoriating summation of the demise of the once Great Britain which stood alone against Hitler and his hordes.

    Alone with friends….given the odds in July 1940 it is arguable that without its 20% of Commonwealth and foreign pilots the RAF would have been hard pressed to win the Battle of Britain.

  62. C.L.

    Mrs Joyce looked far more attractive as a regular middle-aged woman.
    Now she looks like a sinewy gay man. And several years older.

  63. zyconoclast

    Jeffrey Epstein prosecutor Alexander Acosta is grilled over plea deal at budget hearing

    Acosta, while U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida, helped orchestrate an unusually light plea deal with Jeffrey Epstein, a politically connected New York hedge fund manager accused in 2005 of molesting and s3xually assaulting dozens of girls, mostly ages 13 to 16, at his mansion in Palm Beach.

    Instead of going to prison like most s3x offenders in Florida, Epstein was given federal immunity and was allowed to plead guilty to two prostitution charges in state court. A number of other people involved in his operation were also immunized and never charged.

    He served 13 months in the county jail. But had Acosta prosecuted him on s3x-trafficking charges, Epstein could have gone to prison for the rest of his life.

    In February of this year, a federal judge ruled that the deal that Acosta arranged was improper because federal prosecutors failed to comply with the Crime Victims’ Rights Act. It is not clear what happens next.

  64. bespoke

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2979162, posted on April 4, 2019 at 11:11 am

    The real question is, if more information surfaces, can YOU change your mind on any given topic, at any given time?

    Yes, I changed my mind about you the more information I got.

  65. bespoke

    1735099
    #2978975, posted on April 4, 2019 at 7:17 am

    Sleeping Giants, aka Sleeping Midgets or Idiots, have been active again. They have hit on Pizza Hut who have now removed their advertising from Paul Murray

    Thanks for the link.
    I have just sent off a tranche of emails to Pizza Hut congratulating them on their stand.
    ====

    Baldrick
    #2979077, posted on April 4, 2019 at 9:37 am
    Numbers inadvertently reveals Sleeping Giants business model:

  66. Percy Popinjay

    Socialist Senator Doug Cameron bows out

    And translators, interpreters, speech therapists and voice recognition experts across the country did rejoice.

  67. thefrollickingmole

    IPA fighting a rearguard action.

    The internet is over, all thats now required is to steadily ratchet down the definition of “violence” to include Muh Feelz and censorship reigns.

    The IPA is not a fan of the social media laws which have just passed parliament. From it’s release:

    “Throwing media executives in jail will increase costs to taxpayers without improving community safety or addressing concerns about violent content being shared on social media platforms,” said Andrew Bushnell, research fellow at free market thinktank the Institute of Public Affairs.

    On 3 April, the Senate passed a government-backed Criminal Code Amendment (Sharing of Abhorrent Violent Material) Bill 2019 that will create criminal penalties and massive fines for media companies that allow users to share material created by terrorists and other violent criminals during the commission of their crimes. Media executives will be personally liable for material disseminated on media platforms. They will face prison sentences of up to three years if they are proved to have recklessly failed to remove abhorrent violent material quickly enough, or notify the Australian Federal Police quickly enough.

    “This is a blatant attack on the freedom of the media to report on matters of public interest and goes well beyond what would be necessary to achieve the stated goal,” said Bushnell.

    “The main function of prison is to take dangerous criminals off our streets. Media executives do not meet this standard.”

  68. mh

    Joe Biden creeping out in the 2020 betting.

    Biden $14, Bernie Sanders into $6

  69. Yes, I change my mind with my underwear.

    i.e. every 90 days

  70. thefrollickingmole

    This looks suitably creepy.

    Deep within a run-down apartment block, Aunt Mei (Bai Ling) is a former gynaecologist who has performed abortions; now she sells black-market dumplings whose soupy, fleshy interiors bestow mysteriously youth-restoring abilities on those who dare to eat them.

    https://youtu.be/Az2q1h6SsUw

  71. zyconoclast

    Yale Law School Yanks Stipends From Students Who Work For Christian Firms
    Yale has found a roundabout way to blacklist legal and nonprofit organizations that don’t adhere to Yale’s understanding of gender identity.

    On March 25, one month after the controversy, Yale Law School announced via email that it was extending its nondiscrimination policy to summer public interest fellowships, postgraduate public interest fellowships, and loan forgiveness for public interest careers. The school will no longer provide financial support for students and graduates who work at organizations that discriminate on the basis of “sexual orientation and gender identity and expression.”

  72. OldOzzie

    ‘Consent condom’ requires four hands to open package

    Tulipán, an Argentine sex toy retailer, has created the world’s first “consent condom,” a condom encased in packaging requiring four hands to open. The unique design requires two parties to simultaneously press special points on the side of the packet to access its contents.

  73. calli

    incoherent rambler
    #2979282, posted on April 4, 2019 at 1:33 pm
    Yes, I change my mind with my underwear.

    i.e. every 90 days

    I trust you turn it inside out first.

    #savedaplanetusenodetergent

  74. OldOzzie

    calli
    #2979294, posted on April 4, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    incoherent rambler
    #2979282, posted on April 4, 2019 at 1:33 pm
    Yes, I change my mind with my underwear.

    i.e. every 90 days

    I trust you turn it inside out first.

    #savedaplanetusenodetergent

    And Back to Front

  75. C.L.

    zyconoclast
    #2979284, posted on April 4, 2019 at 1:38 pm
    2 minutes

    Interesting but not at all surprising.
    I’ve noticed there is a nationwide movement in the United States to restore the sanctuaries and high altars of Catholic churches – vandalised by liberal imbeciles in the 1970s and 80s.
    Some before and after pictures chart the phenomenon.
    The “New Order” invented in the 1960s is a zombie reform. It is quite dead. Restoration is the only way forward.

  76. C.L.

    ‘Consent condom’ requires four hands to open package

    Also known as the gang rape condom.

  77. calli

    Wow, Old Ozzie! Inside out, back to front, 90 days.

    Thats almost a years’ worth from one set of duds! And the other five days commando for da planet’s sake.

    Who says we aren’t ecology conscious here at the Cat?

  78. zyconoclast

    C.L.
    #2979297, posted on April 4, 2019 at 1:55 pm

    Wasn’t it around the early 1960s that the church was homos3xulaised?

  79. Percy Popinjay

    Socialist Senator Doug Cameron bows out

    And translators, interpreters, speech ther*pists and voice recognition experts across the country did rejoice.

  80. Roger

    Yale Law School Yanks Stipends From Students Who Work For Christian Firms

    And as noted here recently, Christian colleges in the US are reporting that some public hospitals and schools are refusing to place their teaching and nursing graduates simply because the colleges adhere to traditional marriage.

    The goal is to expunge Christianity from public life.

  81. zyconoclast

    A solution looking for a problem?

    Germany’s Military Appoints Rabbis as Chaplains for First Time in Century

    German soldiers are not required to identify their religion; the Defense Ministry estimates that about half have done so. According to the ministry, there are approximately 300 J00wish enlistees in addition to about 3,000 M00slims, 41,000 Catholics and 53,000 Protestants.

  82. I’ve noticed there is a nationwide movement in the United States to restore the sanctuaries and high altars of Catholic churches – vandalised by liberal imbeciles in the 1970s and 80s.

    You want to get the lighting, proportions and colours right though. I’m not being facetious either.

  83. OldOzzie

    Why Hanson is right to be angry

    The Mocker – Part 1

    You may think Al Jazeera’s documentary ‘How to Sell a Massacre’, which ABC featured last week, revealing One Nation’s attempts to solicit foreign funding with the aid of the National Rifle Association in order to undermine Australia’s gun laws, was a cracker of a story.

    But that is nothing compared to what the Qatari state-funded news service has for you next week. Using covert cameras and recorders, a brave undercover reporter risks his life to pose as g#y man in Doha, where sharia law mandates imprisonment and brutal lashings for h#mosexuality … no, I am just kidding. About the scoop that is, not about Qatar’s medieval punishments for the crime of being g#y or any other of the country’s numerous human rights violations, one of them being suppressing freedom of expression. It is a crime in Qatar to criticise its government, the ruling family or Islam for that matter, but as One Nation discovered to its detriment, Al Jazeera is very big on holding the decadent West to account.

    The news organisation has faced constant accusations of being a mouthpiece for the Qatari government. In 2017, following yet another allegation of corruption over the country’s successful and controversial bid to hold the most prestigious and lucrative soccer tournament in the world, Al Jazeera breezily announced in an opening paragraph when reporting the story that “Qatar’s attorney-general has refuted new allegations of bribery against the Gulf country over its award of the 2022 World Football Cup.” Exactly how they were supposedly refuted we are not told. As even a cadet journalist knows, one denies allegations; they are refuted only when evidence proves them to be wrong. Al Jazeera’s educated and impeccably well-spoken journalists would know this distinction.

    Only last month The Times, having obtained leaked documents, reported that Qatar, through Al Jazeera, secretly offered soccer’s world governing body, FIFA, $400m for a television contract just 21 days before the country was awarded the right to host the 2022 World Cup in 2010. Included in the contract was an additional and unprecedented $100 million “success fee” for FIFA if Qatari’s host bid was successful. The matter is now the subject of an investigation by Swiss police and — oh silly me; here I am distracting you when I should be talking about those One Nation infidels.

  84. Cohenite:
    The Bradfield Scheme –

    Then it’s downhill to the entire Mitchell Grass Downs, including the towns of Barcaldine at 267m AHD, Aramac, Muttaburra, Longreach, Ilfracombe, Winton and Richmond to Julia Creek at 150m AHD. The dams and route do not overlap with any protected areas or endangered ecosystems.

    Yet.

  85. C.L.

    When I say liberal imbeciles, I really mean … liberal imbeciles.

    An infamous example: A Wreckovated Church Gets Un-wrecked.

  86. calli

    There is beauty in minimalism, even in a place of worship.

    Some of those bare sanctuaries look like they’ve thrown the baby out with the bathwater. And some of the adorned ones look like the baby has returned as an unpleasant teenager with a bone to pick.

    My favourite is the skillion roof turned into a barrel vault. Noice.

  87. Same here Calli. Not all restorations are tip top and whilst there was some ugly “renovations” in the past, I think C.L. s besotted with Gothic architecture, or at least, Gothic revival.

    We all know that Norman, Roman revival, Scots Baronial, Prairie, Free Gothic and Arts & Craft styles are superior…and that JC would like to live in a tacky 1960s era prehensile polycarbonate egg.

  88. calli

    Oh my! That’s truly horrible, C.L.

    Those tall, crouching things look like some sort of malevolent alien life form. Enough to give small children nightmares. Forget all the old realistic, scary art that the modernisers wanted to throw out.

  89. notafan

    I don’t know that those Catholic churches were seeking artistic perfection but rather restoring a sense of ‘sacred space’ with the focus on God’s presence.

    What matters to me, anyhow.

  90. Indolent

    For some reason, the comments on Andrew Bolt’s column (which appeared in the Daily Telegraph as well as on his blog) I thought the Liberals should lose. Then Labor talked global warming have disappeared. I know there were comments because they were there earlier. Perhaps they were too direct in their views?

  91. calli

    I have a fondness for Gothic revival – I grew up going to a magnificent sandstone number in Sydney.

    It was extended in the early sixties – the choir and table moved out another ten metres or so. But the architects had the sense to continue in the style of the original building- stone butresses, organ loft and lovely brushbox choir stalls, plus roof slates and copper/lead plumbing.

    But boy those old Victorian pews were rock hard. Kept us wide awake in sermons though, as did the icy cold from the stone floor. 😀

  92. Leigh Lowe

    I have a fondness for Gothic revival – I grew up going to a magnificent sandstone number in Sydney.

    Goffic is grouse.

  93. Tel

    Media executives will be personally liable for material disseminated on media platforms. They will face prison sentences of up to three years if they are proved to have recklessly failed to remove abhorrent violent material quickly enough, or notify the Australian Federal Police quickly enough.

    So common carrier is officially abandoned then.

    Maybe it never applied in Australia for media companies.

  94. Mother Lode

    ‘Consent condom’ requires four hands to open package

    Not so marvellous when you consider consent can be withdrawn at any moment after the wrapping is off, and that can be claimed years after.

    No, the only solution is notarised contracts and binding periodic reviews conducted by an independent third party to verify that continued congress is agreed upon by both participants.

    Anything short of this is enabling rape.

  95. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yes, I changed my mind about you the more information I got.

    Excellent.
    So change of opinion or ideas is possible, regardless of conditioning.
    What about this article?
    Does this article make you question anything you believe or change your mind?

    World-first MRI study shows babies experience pain ‘like adults’.

    It’s from 2015.
    Just think of how many things we all are ignorant of and need to rethink!

  96. twostix

    Some before and after pictures chart the phenomenon.

    What mental sickness did this grow from?

  97. thefrollickingmole

    No, the only solution is notarised contracts and binding periodic reviews conducted by an independent third party to verify that continued congress is agreed upon by both participants.

    Livestreaming the whole event. You know its the only way to be sure.

  98. bespoke

    1735099
    #2978996, posted on April 4, 2019 at 7:55 am
    we (royal plural) believe in free speech

    No you don’t.
    You want to ban a commentator who disagrees with you.
    That’s totalitarianism.

    Have you ever suggested to Scinc he should ban people?

  99. Then you also need to livestream drug and alcohol tests to ensure that consent has been given.

  100. bespoke

    Does this article make you question anything you believe or change your mind?

    No

  101. Shy Ted

    A big thank you to whoever put me onto Dilmah Premium. If anybody is still into leaf I got a kilo of Lapsang Souchong on EBay for $65. Lovely, smoky flavor that keeps on brewing and brewing for several refills of the teapot. Dilmah for a cup in a rush, LS for relaxed tea drinking.

  102. zyconoclast

    ‘It’s not a religious service’: Furious war veterans slam decision to invite an imam to say a Muslim prayer during an Anzac Day dawn service

    Furious NZ war veterans slam decision to say Muslim prayer during dawn service
    The RSA branch at Titahi Bay near Wellington, NZ will include it in the civic ceremony
    It originally wanted to have the Muslim prayer during the 6am dawn service
    The decision was met with mass negative attention from furious war veterans

  103. Mother Lode

    When all other procedures are exhausted we will be able to rely on the new legal maxim:\

    All men are rapists that lie.

  104. Mother Lode

    Cripes.

    Moderation.

    Try this:

    When all other procedures are exhausted we will be able to rely on the new legal maxim –

    All men are ropey-papists that lie.

  105. zyconoclast

    looks like the M word has joined the J word

  106. C.L.

    Same here Calli. Not all restorations are tip top and whilst there was some ugly “renovations” in the past, I think C.L. s besotted with Gothic architecture, or at least, Gothic revival.

    No, I’m ‘besotted’ with beauty and Catholicity.
    The theology of the Catholic Mass is more profound than the theology of the Society of Friends, say, worshipping in a minimalist, whitewashed barn … on superbly made chairs. Minimalism suits what they’re doing. It’s the difference between the vertical and the horizontal; between the sacrifice of the Mass on one hand and the splendor of us on the other.

  107. I actually like the restorations; attention to detail, proportions, colour and light all are very important.

  108. Stimpson J. Cat

    No

    That’s fantastic.
    We both agree that causing unnecessary pain to babies is wrong.
    Our common humanity allows us this.
    Well done!
    Next stop, World Peace!

  109. calli

    One of the upsides of the old churches is the techniques used to construct them.

    Not many nine year olds these days would know what a hammer beam is. I spent many hours gazing at them wondering just how they held up the roof.

  110. calli

    Oh, and of course the crossed Australian flag and Union Jack hanging from them. Now that’s a blast from the past.

    And the stained glass, glorious colours ebbing and flowing across the morning congregation with the passing clouds…

    I remember standing there at dusk as a bride with my Dad waiting to go in. All those beautiful glassy faces watching me from the pointed stone recesses of the walls. A veritable “cloud of witnesses”.

  111. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There’s an extremely depressing and disturbing article in the Spectator Australia, 30th March 2019, by Tony Thomas, titled ‘The Propaganda is Settled’. It examines materials that are apparently quite acceptable for use in Australian classrooms, as put out by the WWF and a group called ‘Cool Australia’. These materials are total political Green Party propaganda, delivered to 78,000 willing teachers, and are full of serious errors, deliberately false statements, obfuscations and incitements to political action by children. Teachers are encouraged to assist children to develop their own materials for, and to join in with, activist programs.

    Will everyone ask for this insidious political teaching to be brought to the attention of the Minister for Education in relevant States, who should immediately require that such political and ill-informed propaganda NOT be permitted to be taught to vulnerable children in our schools from junior primary level and onwards? That, coupled with the inculcation of acquired gender dysphoria and other fringe group normalisations, have no place in education anywhere.

    Time to write to your local MP’s while their minds are on things that concern voters.

  112. No, the only solution is notarised contracts and binding periodic reviews conducted by an independent third party to verify that continued congress is agreed upon by both participants.

    The solution is video with full audio of the event placed on a public accessible register.

  113. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Federal MP’s in particular, for this should be a matter of urgency for Federal politicians as well.
    Also, a sharp letter to your child’s school about the use of this material is certainly called for.

  114. bespoke

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #2979349, posted on April 4, 2019 at 2:48 pm
    I’ve turned gay for two great men:

    Turned?

  115. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I need hardly tell you that the topic of such materials is catastrophic anthropogenic climatic change including the loss of fluffy bunnies and imminent suffocation of all life on the planet. Great stuff in visuals directed at eight year olds.

  116. Plot twist:

    I’m a transgendered male presenting lesbian.

  117. Mark A

    twostix
    #2979324, posted on April 4, 2019 at 2:25 pm

    Some before and after pictures chart the phenomenon.

    What mental sickness did this grow from?

    Not wanting to be sacrilegious, but it reminds me of something totally inappropriate.

  118. Lizzie

    It may not be an issue after all. Have you seen the progress Lockheed Martin has had with confined fusion lately?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_Compact_Fusion_Reactor

    It will be great because the watermelons have tied their destiny to renew balls.

  119. Lizzie

    It may not be an issue after all. Have you seen the progress Lockheed Martin has had with confined fusion lately?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_Compact_Fusion_Reactor

    It will be great because the watermelons have tied their destiny to renew bells.

  120. WOW

    Got this from DL’s twitter feed.

    Retired cop exposes the DV restraining order racket

    Bettina Arndt

    Published on Apr 2, 2019
    Bettina Arndt’s exclusive interview with a retired chief inspector who exposes the widespread use of false accusations of violence to empower women and destroy men.

  121. Indolent

    It may not be an issue after all. Have you seen the progress Lockheed Martin has had with confined fusion lately?

    Don’t worry, if it works the Greens will ban it. Think fracking.

  122. Read all about it. How a bill is made into an Act, kiddies.

    https://medium.com/leyonhjelm/media-release-abhorrent-bill-passes-senate-sight-unseen-4aed23e08dda

    Media Release: Abhorrent bill passes Senate sight unseen
    Go to the profile of Senator David Leyonhjelm
    Senator David Leyonhjelm
    Apr 4

    Senator Duncan Spender of the Liberal Democrats has slammed the major parties for passing a bill without even having seen it.

    Last night Labor and Coalition Senators combined to pass the Criminal Code Amendment (Sharing of Abhorrent Violent Material) Bill 2019.

    The Government claims it had introduced the bill minutes earlier, but the usual process of introduction, where the bill is circulated to all Senators in the Senate chamber and published on the parliament’s website, did not occur.

    “If the bill was not properly introduced, it cannot have been passed,” Senator Spender said.

    “The President of the Senate has questions to answer about why he did not intervene, in or even comment on, this process when he has intervened in other matters threatening the standing of the Senate.

    “It is bad enough when the Government forces a vote on a bill that members of the public haven’t had a chance to respond to. But in this instance, even the Senators haven’t had a chance to look at it.

    “If voters vote for Labor or Coalition candidates, they are voting for someone who will vote for legislation sight unseen. Prime Minister Morrison and Mr Shorten could have drafted a bill to kill everyone’s first born and Labor and Coalition parliamentarians would have passed it sight unseen.

    “The bill has been publicly released overnight. Just in an initial quick review I can see that it bans sado-masochist websites, because of a flawed definition of torture that does not allow to consensual acts of control and violence.

    “I can also see that the bill fails to ban broadcasters from broadcasting abhorrent material and content. This is either based on the view that Kochie would never do such a thing, or it’s because the drafters forgot about broadcasters.”

  123. zyconoclast

    St Jacinda strikes again

    In a Facebook post, the mother wrote, “Just when you think Jacinda Ardern couldn’t get any more lovely, low key and authentic … she goes and pays for your groceries at the supermarket, because you’ve got your shopping, have two kids with you and are about to put it all back as you forgot your wallet.”

    Two glowing editorials by The New York Times were headlined “America deserves a leader as good as Jacinda Ardern”, and “Jacinda Ardern leads by following no-one”.

    The New Yorker ran a piece titled “Jacinda Ardern has rewritten the script for how a nation grieves after a terrorist attack”, crediting her empathy and action to ban military-style semi-automatics and her insistence on not naming the killer.

  124. mh

    bespoke
    #2979354, posted on April 4, 2019 at 2:59 pm
    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #2979349, posted on April 4, 2019 at 2:48 pm
    I’ve turned gay for two great men:

    Turned?

    Good one! 😄

  125. Don’t worry, if it works the Greens will ban it. Think fracking.

    On what grounds though? There is almost nothing which can be objected to.

  126. Grigory M

    bespoke #2979328, posted on April 4, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    1735099 #2978996, posted on April 4, 2019 at 7:55 am

    we (royal plural) believe in free speech

    No you don’t.
    You want to ban a commentator who disagrees with you.
    That’s totalitarianism.

    Have you ever suggested to Scinc he should ban people?

    I don’t believe he has – not in the 5+ years that I have been commenting here.

    Not even when the well-known fracas occurred in early 2014.

  127. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Having Numbers around all the time is like having some loony left rellie to stay in your house permanently. You can put up with it for a while, but eventually you blow, and pull the plug on their electric blanket and morning cuppa till they depart. I know Sinc likes the cut and thrust of Numbers’ elegant and incisive debating style (i.e you lot are idiots) and his ability to reiterate endlessly the subtlety of his CFMEU and green-left points, a subtlety we may have missed (as if), but goodness me it gets wearing. Sinc, why not open an ongoing Numbers thread? Like Q & A, a new one each week so that the blog is well represented by Numbers-thought on some topical variant and those who care to engage with it.

  128. Boambee John

    Frank

    It will be banned because, Greenie stamps foot and pouts!

  129. Mother Lode

    And the stained glass, glorious colours ebbing and flowing across the morning congregation with the passing clouds…

    I remember reading some art historian or other observing that the mediaeval invention of the flying butress liberated walls from their role of weight-bearing meant they could be thinner and hold great windows – brilliantly coloured glazing of the divine.

    To walk into such a building would have had a powerful impact – an open, airy space of light. Luminous figures of saints and apostles, of Jesus, of Mary – vibrant colours spilling in through the windows and swirling around you.

    All the more impressive considering the somewhat limited palette of everyday life.

    And for the mediaeval mind, more alert to symbolism than ours, it would have been a transcendent experience.

    This use of light was completely new in the world – on any continent. By comparison the Roman and Greek temples look heavy and oppressive, even profane. The Mediaevals managed to make stone seem almost weightless.

  130. zyconoclast

    Top-selling manufacturers – MARCH 2019 (market share percentage in brackets)

    Toyota – 17,298 (17.4%)
    Mitsubishi – 10,135 (10.2%)
    Mazda – 9618 (9.7%)
    Hyundai – 7731 (7.8%)
    Ford – 6160 (6.2%)
    Kia – 5303 (5.3%)
    Nissan – 5115 (5.0%)
    Volkswagen – 4682 (4.7%)
    Honda – 4335 (4.4%)
    Holden – 3833 (3.9%)

    Top-selling models – MARCH 2019

    Toyota Hilux – 4527
    Ford Ranger – 3721
    Mitsubishi Triton – 2666
    Mazda 3 – 2642
    Toyota Corolla – 2499
    Mazda CX-5 – 2414
    Hyundai i30 – 2402
    Mitsubishi ASX – 2236
    Mitsubishi Outlander – 2067
    Kia Cerato – 1873

  131. jupes

    It’s also possible to critique people and ideas and still like them.

    It’s also possible to unfairly critique people because you hate them.

  132. It will be banned because, Greenie stamps foot and pouts!

    Because they’ll need to find another Trojan Horse to impose communism on us all.

  133. jupes

    Knuckle Dragger at 12:00 above.

    Excellent post. Brilliant summation.

  134. bespoke

    I remember reading some art historian or other observing that the mediaeval invention of the flying butress liberated walls from their role of weight-bearing meant they could be thinner and hold great windows – brilliantly coloured glazing of the divine.

    I thought (don’t laugh) most was added later or made bigger to save the place.

  135. Indolent

    On what grounds though?

    Perhaps it will harm a sparrow? It doesn’t matter. They are implacably against anything which would provide cheap energy and opportunity to people. They have no objection to blighting the countryside with thousands of hectares of bird chopping windmills or bird frying solar panels which consume more energy overall than they will ever produce.

    As James Delingpole described them in his book “Watermelons” they are green on the outside and red on the inside. They want the socialist utopia with everyone totally dependent on big government and the elites (themselves) making all the decisions.

    What do you think Shorten’s pivot to electric cars really means? It means that many people will no longer be able to afford cars and will have highly restricted travel opportunities. The further it is pushed the poorer the general population will become. Barnaby Joyce has a very good article in the Australian today about the hidden poverty already caused by the renewals scam.

    Its Agenda 21 or 2030 or whatever they’re calling it now. I call it deliberate enslavement. And Shorten will stand up tonight and talk with a straight face about being for the “battler”.

  136. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s also possible to unfairly critique people because you hate them.

    Yes but you don’t hate me Jupes, so your criticism of me is valid.
    Even if you did hate me it could still be valid.

  137. Mother Lode

    I’m a transgendered male presenting lesbian.

    I am a straight male who identifies as straight and as a male.

    It might seem redundant but if, for example, someone with a male physiology separately to that circumstance identifies as female, and identifies as species-curious, to be their whole self then surely I must, separately from my possession of my bits, identify as male and as straight.

    If I don’t, if my sexuality is a single harmonious unified whole, then the male feeling female attracted to other species is not comparable because they follow a different process, understand their gender/orientation as a separate and external object, and there is space for all manner of confusions and pathologies between self, gender and orientation.

    For me it is just a cack-and-bolls story.

  138. feelthebern

    Today I gave the Schick Hydro 5 it’s first work out.
    Terrible.
    I don’t know whose face it was designed for, but it wasn’t mine.
    Norman Gunston eat your heart out.
    Will be buying more Gillette blades today, I don’t care about their stupid ad after today’s bloodening.

  139. bespoke

    If you disagree or hate someone because of personality clash your an idiot. It’s that simple.

  140. Mitch M.

    If you disagree or hate someone because of personality clash your an idiot. It’s that simple.

    I have a personality clash with the human race.

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Have you seen the progress Lockheed Martin has had with confined fusion lately?

    But why would we bother? If it would be better and cheaper it will happen anyway, but such changes do take a long time to come into being. Meantime, the renew bells will keep ringing for money, money, money.

    Personally, I am rather fond of highly reliable and profitably cheap coal-fired power and the speedy and easily fillable ICE vehicle I drive. Till the market works a new fusion magic, as it did when ICE put an end to horse-drawn vehicles, I will hope these wonderful current technologies will survive the uselessly expensive renew bells to see me and a few generations of offspring out. After that, who has a crystal ball? We may be using every power we have to fight a new ice age by then in a world beset by far more serious climatic problems and school teachers can dream up at present. Alternatively, the climate by then may have proved to have a certain stability and the hysterical apocalyptic cult may have died a natural death. In this scenario, there will be much employment created in removing the unsightly remains of wind turbines and shredded solar glass in huge programs of rectification, generously funded by booming coal industries. We can all dream. 🙂

  142. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    than schoolteacher, not and schoolteachers.

  143. jupes

    After they have banned ALL Christian prayers from the Perth Dawn Service, it is no surprise to learn that a NZ Anzac Day Service will include a “prayer from the K*ran”.

    Simon Strombom, a veteran of the more recent Afghanistan war and organiser of the Titahi Bay service, said he was shocked at some comments on the club’s Facebook page after he announced that the M*sl*m community “will conclude the ceremony this year with a prayer from the K*ran”.

    Shocked? What a traitorous fuckwit.

  144. jupes

    After they have banned ALL Christian prayers from the Perth Dawn Service, it is no surprise to learn that a NZ Anzac Day Service will include a “prayer from the K*r*n”.

    Simon Strombom, a veteran of the more recent Afghanistan war and organiser of the Titahi Bay service, said he was shocked at some comments on the club’s Facebook page after he announced that the M*sl*m community “will conclude the ceremony this year with a prayer from the K*r*n”.

    Shocked? What a traitorous fuckwit.

  145. Johno

    I have found little difference between Schick and Gilette. If pushed I would say the Gilette by a whisker. Still a vast improvement on the old safety razor.

  146. jupes

    The link is in moderation for the above because it contains forbidden words.

  147. bespoke

    Mitch M.
    Me too but I don’t hate just well not hate. It doesn’t stop legitimate contempt at people like numbers.

  148. bespoke

    Johno, feelthebern wasn’t shaving his face that’s why.

  149. Johno

    Anzac Day is becoming a joke. It is now a platform for mongs and their mates.

  150. twostix

    her insistence on not naming the killer.

    What becomes the point of the state?

  151. twostix

    Simon Strombom, a veteran of the more recent Afghanistan war and organiser of the Titahi Bay service, said he was shocked at some comments on the club’s Facebook page after he announced that the M*sl*m community “will conclude the ceremony this year with a prayer from the K*r*n”.

    Kiwi’s! You absolutely retarded cucks!

  152. Stimpson J. Cat

    Today I gave the Schick Hydro 5 it’s first work out.
    Terrible.

    Dollar Shave Club.
    Excellent blades.
    Yes yes, I know it’s Unilever, but you can’t save the world by posting on Catallaxy if you look like a homeless man.
    Everyone knows this.

  153. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Anzac Day is becoming a joke. It is now a platform for mongs and their mates.

    I went to an Anzac Day, service a few years ago, that began with a “welcome to country.” Two of the local veterans walked out, and it was a couple of years before I went to another.

  154. Johno

    bespoke, mate, I am cursed with an over active imagination. The images that bought up can only be cured by beer o’clock. Which it is somewhere in the world today.

  155. Woolfe

    Agreed Lizzie, surely it would be easy to have every numbnuts post filtered into a separate folder and those who wish to engage can do so, would save a lot of scrolling and associated RSI claims.

  156. calli

    This is a curious story.

    He appears to have strong religious views, but all the services are coy as to what they might be. There are a couple of clues, but nothing overt.

    Ardern’s ardour for supression has crossed the ditch?

  157. Johno

    Zulu, I don’t think I have been to an Anzac day for about 15 years. I marched beside Mike Jeffries in Canberra.He seemed pretty impressed. It might have been gas though.

  158. Nice to see Mitch M here.

    Mother Lode
    #2979384, posted on April 4, 2019 at 3:30 pm

    I think it is better to treat identity politics as the (usually) far leftist, millennial joke that it is.

  159. Tom

    Today I gave the Schick Hydro 5 it’s first work out.
    Terrible.
    I don’t know whose face it was designed for, but it wasn’t mine.
    Norman Gunston eat your heart out.
    Will be buying more Gillette blades today, I don’t care about their stupid ad after today’s bloodening.

    Ditto, Bern. Gillette’s competition, from Schick down to the no-name garbage, is all shit. After trying them all, I bought a new Gillette razor that takes Mach 3 blade sets on Tuesday night.

    If the competition wants to outsell Gillette, they need to stop making shit. Simples.

  160. feelthebern

    bespoke!
    yellow card!

  161. Mother Lode

    Jacinda is just high on herself.

    None of this semi-divine persona was evident until she had served up an opportunity for dhimmitude which was guaranteed to win the approval of the craven unmanned in press.

    As soon as the press gets their next shiny bauble (perhaps Merkel will pay local Imams to certify that tap water has been properly slaughtered and is Halal) En Zud will quietly sink back into the background.

  162. calli

    Red card!

    My eyes!

    Also…what utter idiots. Isn’t childbirth bad enough?

  163. mh

    The good people of the UK are now realising that their political overlords are not going to let them leave the EU, despite them voting to leave.

    Makes this hilarious video from a few years ago all the more relevant. Alex Jones at a protest outside of a Bilderberg meeting in the UK.

  164. Mitch M.

    Nice to see Mitch M here.

    Thanks but I’m in another dead zone. A former collaborator has suggested that he sees Seasonal Affective Disorder in me when autumn begins. He might be onto something because in these days I’m feeling very stupid.

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    This is a curious story.

    I’m prepared to accept he may be a member of my tribe, the Mentally Ill.

    Why couldn’t he just learn to code like all the other journalists?

    This is what happens.

    It’s very sad.

  166. notafan

    He appears to have strong religious views, but all the services are coy as to what they might be. There are a couple of clues, but nothing overt.

    Lots of hints dropped though,

    Still writing for local rags in Dec 2018

    must have been a quick conversion

    I suppose someone will say it was sheik social media and iman youtube wotdunnit

  167. Stimpson J. Cat

    Seasonal Affective Disorder in me

    Take Vitamin C and dance more.
    It cured my Scurvy!

  168. Overburdened

    I am ahead of the curve.

  169. Done Deal

    “Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern pays for groceries of mum who forgot her wallet”

    Oh…….the humanity!

  170. notafan

    I’m prepared to accept he may be a member of my tribe, the Mentally Ill.

    apparently not

    Today the court heard the assessment was that Mr Waugh had no mental illness to explain his behaviour…

    “He simply believes these things,” she said.

  171. dover_beach

    ‘Consent condom’ requires four hands to open package

    What a broken, trash culture.

  172. Mother Lode

    I have found little difference between Schick and Gilette. If pushed I would say the Gilette by a whisker. Still a vast improvement on the old safety razor.

    I have gone the other way – from Gillette/Schick to safety razors.

    Once you learn the grain of your whiskers you don’t need to worry about nicks. (Well, sometimes when I hurry I subconsciously press too hard and can get a small red dot just below the corner of my mouth).

    But I find the safety razor gives a closer shave than the cartridge disposables.

    And shaving soaps have much more pleasant scents that linger for a while. I found a place in Leura which has an impressive range. I have just started a sandalwood and am thinking about a cedarwood next.

  173. Stimpson J. Cat

    Try a light box Mitch.

  174. Mother Lode

    After they have banned ALL Christian prayers from the Perth Dawn Service, it is no surprise to learn that a NZ Anzac Day Service will include a “prayer from the K*r*n”.

    Have we actually fought on the same side since the Crimean war?

  175. bespoke

    He appears to have strong religious views

    Extremist journalist.

  176. Mitch M.

    Try a light box Mitch.

    Might work, nothing like a good biff to get the adrenaline going.

  177. Stimpson J. Cat

    Today the court heard the assessment was that Mr Waugh had no mental illness to explain his behaviour…

    Sane Person Confirmed!
    We’re off the hook boys!

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    I like studies. Studies say studies should be studiously ignored.

  179. Mater

    After they have banned ALL Christian prayers from the Perth Dawn Service, it is no surprise to learn that a NZ Anzac Day Service will include a “prayer from the K*r*n”.

    Been there, done that.
    It happened here several years ago (2015 IIRC). All delivered by an Imam, putting the blessings of Allah on all present.
    I wasn’t particularly impressed. I’d had enough of dodging and weaving the high velocity ‘blessings’ of Allah, in the Middle East.

  180. Stimpson J. Cat

    Might work, nothing like a good biff to get the adrenaline going.

    I’m not going to fall for it.
    😁

  181. Drinking one bottle of wine a week is as cancer-causing as smoking up to ten cigarettes during the same time period, a new study claims.

    Bullshit. They used continuous, average data.

    Now use discrete data, chumps.

    If I went near full keto diet, steak and brocolini plus one glass of red for dinner 4 times a week, it WOULD NOT give me bloody cancer.

  182. Cardimona

    Yes yes, I know it’s Unilever, but you can’t save the world by posting on Catallaxy if you look like a homeless man.
    Everyone knows this.

    Nah, Stimps, flowing beards are all the rage!
    They double as improvised breathing apparatus when burning off – just wet and hold in yer teeth.
    Gotta be careful not to set fire to it with the welder though, and care also required around rotating machinery.

  183. Mother Lode

    I think it is better to treat identity politics as the (usually) far leftist, millennial joke that it is.

    Persactly.

    It is completely (and yet incompletely) made up.

    Hence the confused that no one has mastered but they compete to be seen as wokest.

  184. cohenite

    The ex Mrs Joyce appears to be of mature novice standard which is no mean feat for a women with four sprogs.

  185. Overburdened

    The Labor Party has a proud tradition of creating blue sky social reform ideas then leaving it to the Libs to try and make them work.
    Medibank
    Social Security reform
    Child care reform
    NBN
    NDIS
    as five examples of on the fly vote grabbing that had to be made to work, even if in a shithouse and wasteful manner, because of political and legislative imperatives.

    The libs always start a period of Government on the back foot and are forced to use sleight of hand and creative accounting, as well as solid PR, to absorb these initiatives without the economy crashing in a flaming heap.

    No criticism of the need for any Government to want to do the best for the prols, even if the end result is a three ring arse circus. Unfortunately this is not always a first tier consideration.

    The issue is that the cash cows for such ideas are always dickhead prols such as myself, who will never see a direct personal benefit from these things, and have no say in how my contribution is best used.

    Ironically for socialism the people that benefit most in the beginnings of these ideas are entrepreneurs and other enemies of socialism who can smell a dollar from a mile away.

    I fondly remember the mansions that Medibank built.

    More ironically, all these exhortations to fairness continue to increase costs and unless one is on the tit there is no compensation.

    I now await Labor to erode whatever precarious financial and national security the Country has and to move forward with the plan to destroy life as we know it.

  186. Tom

    Oh dear. Just like the Tesla Trabant, another cherished leftard fairytale has crashed and burned on the ABC propaganda highway: climate-related deaths have decreased by 96% in the past 100 years (even though population increased by 300%). H/T IPA.

  187. EvilElvis

    I’d imagine Roger Miller will have to watch his back if ever returning to the US.

  188. Speedbox

    banned ALL Christian prayers from the Perth Dawn Service
    …..
    I went to an Anzac Day, service a few years ago, that began with a “welcome to country.”
    …..
    after he announced that the M*sl*m community “will conclude the ceremony this year with a prayer from the K*r*n”.

    Sweet Jeebus. The march through our most sacred ceremonies continues. Do the people of Israel have a similar prayer included for Yom HaZikaronn? What about the Russians including a German prayer during May Day celebrations or perhaps the Americans could include a Japanese prayer on Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day.

    Think how good it would feeelz.

  189. Overburdened

    FWfNT

    The Cancer Council once declared that some ridiculous number of cancers were caused by smoking.

    In a forum I requested info on how, amongst the myriad variables that tobacco smoking could be identified as the causal agent.

    I was advised that the smoking status of the individual was the determinant.

    The categories were
    Never smoked
    Previously had smoked at any time
    Current smoker

    So any cancer that a person had was identified as being caused by smoking if the person had ever or currently smoked.

    The person that gave this advice was authoritative.

  190. John of Mel

    A bottle of wine a week is as bad as smoking 10 cigarettes: study

    On the other hand:
    Researchers from The 90+ Study have published many scientific papers in premier journals. Some of the major findings are:
    People who drank moderate amounts of alcohol or coffee lived longer than those who abstained.
    People who were overweight in their 70s lived longer than normal or underweight people did.

  191. Mark A

    cohenite
    #2979452, posted on April 4, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    The ex Mrs Joyce appears to be of mature novice standard which is no mean feat for a women with four sprogs.

    That pic explains everything, Barnaby is blameless.

  192. Mitch M.

    Only a very few scientists. The issue was raised >50 years ago by Jack Cohen but still no-one is listening.
    Scientists rise up against statistical significance

  193. Boambee John

    The journalist from Queanbeyan specifically mentioned Trinitarians and polytheists as targets.

    There might be a clue there.

  194. I would argue the opposite, more and better statistics is actually the solution.

    Economics had the same crisis in the mid to late 1980s.

  195. Mitch M.

    I would argue the opposite, more and better statistics is actually the solution.

    I agree and add that a better understanding of the limits of statistics is needed. Statistics are invaluable but when applied to complex systems to make claims of causality that’s just whistling in the dark.

  196. thefrollickingmole

    ‘Consent condom’ requires four hands to open package

    Ok heres the test.

    Give one of these to a horny 15 year old and tell him the nympho supermodel on the bed is all his if he can get it open.
    In the race between “woke” and “horny teenage boy” my money is on the gonads every time.

    Its the only thing thats driven humanity to the stars.
    Historical* examples

    Ugg the caveman “Chicks will be lining up now Ive invented the wheel”
    Pontius Pilate** ” Ill nail this pesky dead sea pedestruian up and then get to nail the Pharisees wife”
    Wright brothers “I bet the gilrs will line up if I can get this off the ground”
    Hitler** “Ill totaly score with Eva if i annex the Sudetenland”
    Einstein “E= MC2 is going to power my sex life with the force of 1000 suns”

    * Well they might be true, you cant prove they arent.
    ** Not all hornyness inspired ideas are good

  197. Arky

    Davidson should open a Stimpson, Lizzie, Arky, Bruce, Numbers and Monty fred.
    The only topics allowed: Model A’s, mind numbing travelogues, birds (both kinds), Vietnam and my role in defeating the USA, and: Living as a spastic retard: a rakes tale.

  198. bespoke

    Some Emory students woke up to find fake eviction notices posted on their doors on April 2. These flyers were posted by members and allies of Emory Students for Justice in Palestine (ESJP) to raise awareness about forced evictions of Palestinians. The protests were a part of Israeli Apartheid Week, which coincides with Emory’s Israel Week. Emory Residence Life approved the flyers, but they removed those put on students’ doors because they violated a policy against posting flyers on students’ doors without their consent. Nonetheless, the conversation about Palestinian rights is one that must continue.

    ====

    MINISTER FARRAKHAN
    @LouisFarrakhan
    God does not love this world. God never sent Jesus to die for this world. Jesus died because he was 2,000 years too soon to bring about the end of the civilization of the Jews. He never was on no cross. There was no Calvary for that Jesus.

    Learn more: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialMinisterFarrakhan/videos/2232033143509259/

  199. Herodotus

    The USA Media playing poker – but they are the suckers.
    They just keep throwing more chips on the table.
    American Thinker.

  200. ‘Consent condom’ requires four hands to open package

    What if you’ve had an arm amputated?

  201. Woolfe

    For those wealthy virtue signallers the Tesla 3 cost about $160k in Perth with a couple of options (steering wheel) I love the fact that they still charge LCT on it even though it is the green approved mode of transport and the inconvenient fact that there is no car manufacturing industry to protect from a evil foreign devil capitalist running dogs.

  202. Stimpson J. Cat

    There might be a clue there.

    All we can say we know for certain is that he was a Sane Journalist.
    😁

  203. Speedbox

    I now await Labor to erode whatever precarious financial and national security the Country has and to move forward with the plan to destroy life as we know it.

    Yep. I saw Bolt’s piece earlier today (reprinted somewhere upthread) and whilst he and others have started to really worry that Shorten might actually get in, I am still thinking that this coming election is a ‘death or glory’ moment politically. That is, that the Libs should be destroyed notwithstanding that Labor will, undoubtedly, decimate the financial and social structure of the country.

    In an alternative universe, the Libs fall across the line which they will almost certainly see as a signal to shift further left to shore up their (new) voter base. It will never occur to them that the reason of near defeat was because their traditional conservative base had largely deserted them. Or they won’t care. Meanwhile, conservative minor parties will multiply and continue to splinter the conservative vote. What a shambles.

    This country has endured 10 years of political dysfunction with no end in sight. We’re f*cked.

  204. I agree and add that a better understanding of the limits of statistics is needed. Statistics are invaluable but when applied to complex systems to make claims of causality that’s just whistling in the dark.

    Why not?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granger_causality

  205. Mater

    What if you’ve had an arm amputated?

    ménage à trois
    Has the additional benefit of providing a witness, thus instantly resolving any ‘he said, she said’ issues.

  206. Mother Lode

    Think how good it would feeelz.

    There is a pathetic shallow demographic that thinks itself heroic and ground breaking when they dismiss the supreme sacrifice of others over a latte.

  207. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Mrs Joyce looked far more attractive as a regular middle-aged woman.
    Now she looks like a sinewy gay man. And several years older.

    I have to agree, CL. With the proviso that no woman needs to look like ‘a regular middle-aged woman’. Why, the very idea!! Yes, Nat should have lost some weight earlier, and charmed up the features and hair a little more too. To go all scrawny as she has is never a good look for a female interested in getting male admiration (except for Bespoke’s, freely offered upthread if I recall right). Maybe such admiration wasn’t high on Nat’s agenda, and therein as someone said upthread one may perhaps source a problem.

    I read a 1950’s article once – put up somewhere as a joke – but I thought it spoke some home truths for wives: keep your bustline up, your waist going in, and your hips rounded. Like a violin I remember it saying. It also added do your hair and don’t forget your lipstick and greet him with enthusiasm when he comes home. Advice I took to heart, easy because I loving hugging Hairy home. Only later did I read that this advice was also ethologically well grounded by current, not 1950’s, psychological experiments: it’s what men apparently like.

    Although another view says it’s all cultural conditioning. 😀

  208. Stimpson J. Cat

    Davidson should open a Stimpson, Lizzie, Arky, Bruce, Numbers and Monty fred.
    The only topics allowed: Model A’s, mind numbing travelogues, birds (both kinds), Vietnam and my role in defeating the USA, and: Living as a spastic retard: a rakes tale.

    But I don’t want to talk about Model A’s.

    You Sane People are so rude.

    Do you often walk into someone else’s house and start suggesting home improvements like a new pool, a new bedroom, or a sauna?

    Why don’t you put up some of your YouTube money to pay for it?
    Just outrageous.

  209. John Constantine

    More than 100 mining companies could be drawn into a single test case seeking compensation payments for the Tjiwarl people of the West Australian desert following the High Court’s historic Timber Creek ruling.
    The Tjiwarl people’s lawyer, Malcolm O’Dell, says a large claim will be lodged next month in the Federal Court claiming both economic and cultural loss resulting from decades of mining ­activity by successive miners. The High Court last month ruled that Timber Creek elders were entitled to a $2.5 million payout for “compensable acts’’ conducted on their land that had caused economic or cultural loss.
    The West Australian government and mining companies have been anticipating a similar claim in the mining state, where the majority of mining tenements lie within native title claim areas.
    The Tjiwarl people are the native title holders over about 13,000sq km of land in the Goldfields region of Western Australia, which is covered by nickel, uranium, gold and lithium mining leases. Mr O’Dell said the Tjiwarl claim would seek compensation for as many as 2000 compensable acts, conducted over more than two decades by dozens of mining companies, as opposed to only 53 acts on a tiny parcel of land in Timber Creek. “It may well be more than 100 companies that may have a compensation liability,” he said.
    He said the Tjiwarl claim would pose a test to authorities to determine who is responsible. Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory have all signalled they want more federal financial support and a new framework for dealing with native title compensation claims.
    The Timber Creek ruling is considered likely to trigger other multimillion-dollar claims in the Pilbara and Kimberley, where ­native title holders have claims of cultural loss over vast areas.
    The Australian newspaper

  210. Overburdened

    Re the ex Mrs Joyce and her like.
    Refer to the crazy hot matrix.
    Desperados give you a run for your money.
    Remember to use a false name and get out of there after the glory stroke.

  211. thefrollickingmole

    Why don’t you put up some of your YouTube money to pay for it?
    Just outrageous.

    And here i was about to spill the secrets of my newly invented lustrous mane restoration cream.

    Rare footage of its successful application, colourised.

  212. Overburdened

    I think using a diagnosed condition as an escape clause is intellectual cowardice.

  213. Bruce of Newcastle

    For those wealthy virtue signallers the Tesla 3 cost about $160k in Perth

    Shops today. Red Energy (aka Snowy Hydro) had a Tesla and a table and three guys. Gave me much musing. Should I give them the finger? No. Too hard to explain. Should I ask why they have a very expensive golf cart behind them? No. Should I ask them do they let you buy just one type energy? Coal please, but good old fashioned hydro would do. No. Again hard to explain. So I ignored them.

  214. bespoke

    For those left that haven’t hung them selves.

  215. cohenite

    Jo’s new post after the BoM again went alarmist hysterical:

    Australia: 2019 was not the hottest summer say satellites — it was just as hot in 1991
    According to the UAH satellite series this summer was not the hottest ever, which was just barely, in 1991 when CO2 was a wonderful, safe 356ppm. Since then humans have emitted more than half (58%) of all the emissions we have ever emitted since we painted our hands on cave walls.

  216. Arky

    But I don’t want to talk about Model A’s.

    ..
    I had you down for your interest in spastic retardation.

  217. Hmm yes “cultural loss”.

    Please compensate us for something that is intangible and has no market value, and which we can plead with no factual basis (or not) for eternity.

    They still own the land and can cut deals regarding access and development.

    I’m not happy with real property law in this country, but I will side with the miners here so far.

  218. Bruce of Newcastle

    I love the name Red Energy, especially for a government owned corporation. So very totalitarian.

  219. Overburdened

    Tfm
    Your offering moves me to poetry.

    There was a young man from Nantucket
    Etc

  220. Tel

    What if you’ve had an arm amputated?

    Well duh! Obviously … you buy the condom then go sue the manufacturer for a few million bucks because discrimination.

  221. OldOzzie

    calli
    #2979312, posted on April 4, 2019 at 2:11 pm

    There is beauty in minimalism, even in a place of worship.

    Some of those bare sanctuaries look like they’ve thrown the baby out with the bathwater. And some of the adorned ones look like the baby has returned as an unpleasant teenager with a bone to pick.

    My favourite is the skillion roof turned into a barrel vault. Noice.

    My Old School and Parish Church was a beautiful Old Style Church

    Sacred Heart Catholic Church
    Cnr Military Road and Cardinal Street, Mosman

    Marble on all three altars and when the sun shone in the morning through the Stained Glass Rose surrounded by Marble – beautiful, and when classmate who was a superb Boy Soprano sang in the Gallery accompanied by the Organ – sublime

    My youngest and 9th Grandchild was christened in this Church

    In contrast re your comment above on minimalism

    – my wife and I were married in St Kevin’s Catholic Church Oak Street Dee Why

    if you look at the exterior of St Kevin’s totally different to Sacred Heart Mosman

  222. OldOzzie

    Why Hanson is right to be angry

    The Mocker – Part 2

    oh silly me; here I am distracting you when I should be talking about those One Nation infidels.

    What I actually meant to say, as The Sydney Morning Herald columnist and sports journalist Peter FitzSimons fawningly wrote on Sunday, “Not for nothing is Al Jazeera such a respected news organisation. Its undercover sting exposing One Nation operatives going after money from the NRA was first-class.”

    It certainly was first-class in the sense that money was no issue for Al Jazeera’s investigative unit, which provided the resources and funding for a three-year project. Through establishing a bogus lobby group, Gun Rights Australia, businessman turned undercover journalist Rodger Muller was able to gain the confidence of One Nation Queensland state leader Steve Dickson and James Ashby, chief of staff to senator Pauline Hanson, the party leader. Taking advantage of Muller’s connections with the NRA, both Dickson and Ashby travelled to the United States last year to try to solicit up to $20 million from pro-gun groups in order to secure additional seats and weaken Australia’s strict gun laws. They were also given access to what was hailed as the NRA’s trade secrets in successfully countering gun-control reform.

    Now it is no secret the NRA detests and fears what Australia achieved with the National Firearms Agreement of 1996, particularly the restriction of semiautomatic weapons.

    Consequently it has long embarked on a disinformation campaign to try to discredit these reforms. It is not surprising One Nation found a sympathetic ear at the NRA’s headquarters. But the advice the organisation gave One Nation was your shameless yet straightforward combination of advocacy and propaganda. Accuse gun control advocates of exploiting atrocities for political gain, lobby politicians with a carrot and stick approach, maximise publicity of cases where disarmed citizens live in fear of marauding criminals armed to the teeth, cultivate journalists to have them write articles in favour of an armed citizenry — anyone who is familiar with the NRA and its history can tell you this is hardly news.

    That both One Nation officials returned to Australia empty-handed speaks volumes about their grand plans for a multi-million donation solicitation. It appears the NRA and their corporate sympathisers surmised that Dickson and Ashby were provincial hicks with a political nous to match. If Al Jazeera’s aim was to portray both men as the Beavis and Butt-Head of party apparatchiks, especially with the unedifying scenes featuring two half-cut buffoons, then it succeeded. Speaking of the exposé, respected political commentator George Megalogenis said: “I think it may actually sink One Nation as a political force in Australia”.

    If anything, it is likely to achieve the opposite, especially given the perception among voters, not entirely without substance, that One Nation is an underdog besieged by mainstream careerist politicians and an elitist media. Compounding this is the media’s sudden indifference to fundamental breaches of journalistic ethics and a philosophy of the end justifying the means when it comes to pursuing One Nation.

    Let’s begin with the covert recording and filming. The Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance’s position on that aspect is clear. “Use fair, responsible and honest means to obtain material,” its Journalist Code of Ethics mandates. “Identify yourself and your employer before obtaining any interview for publication or broadcast”.

    Appearing on ABC’s The Drum last week, The Guardian columnist Van Badham was dismissive of the breach. “One Nation went to the NSW state election saying they were going to DNA test indigenous people. Some kind of eugenic policy to determine — put that level of scrutiny on indigenous Australians,” she added. “And then to turn around and go ‘Oh this is terrible — secret cameras’. They want to blood test other Australians!” It was an amateurish attempt using relativism to distract from the point at hand, but it was also gross hypocrisy. Badham is vice-president of the MEAA’s Victorian division and sits on the organisation’s federal council. What other requirements of the code does she think can be arbitrarily discarded to suit her political prejudices?

    The other and far more concerning issue is entrapment. “If it wasn’t for Rodger Muller and the Islamist Al Jazeera network, One Nation would never, never have had any association with the NRA, Koch Industries or the Congressional Sportsmen’s dinner,” said Hanson last week. “They would never have gone to the United States full stop.” Peter Charley, the Al Jazeera executive producer behind the investigation acknowledges that Muller “went to One Nation and presented himself as somebody with multiple high-level NRA contacts” but adds “This was not a situation of Rodger luring them in against their better judgment, they were driving that.”

    But it was a case of luring Dickson and Ashby in and orchestrating their trip to the United States. In facilitating that Charley and Muller look less observer and more agent provocateur. As former producer of ABC’s Media Watch Misha Ketchell wrote last week for The Sydney Morning Herald: “This is the line that renders the gotcha story compromised. Journalists should not make the news, they should report it.” In creating the story, Al Jazeera is not a neutral scrutiniser but a player in the political process. “Hanson and her colleagues have every right to be deeply upset at their treatment at the hands of Al Jazeera and the ABC,” wrote Ketchell.

    That this was done at the behest of a foreign state-based broadcaster is also disconcerting, as Michael Stutchbury, editor-in-chief of The Australian Financial Review told ABC’s Insiders last Sunday. “You have Al Jazeera … very controversial even in the Arab world,” he said. “They’re using a lot of money, foreign money basically from Qataris … to entrap with a very elaborate sting … spending a lot of money to entrap an Australian political party.” He is correct. On that note are commentators prepared to accept without question that Al Jazeera’s motive for devoting enormous resources and funds to target an Australian political party openly hostile to Muslim immigration was purely for professional reasons?

    It is questions such as this which have been overlooked in the commentariat’s schadenfreude over One Nation’s drubbing, as has the abrogation of journalistic ethics, which still apply irrespective of a reporter’s distaste for that party. But it is detrimental only in the short-term for One Nation. As history has shown, the party enjoys its strongest support when its rivals use disproportionate and underhand methods to discredit it. Al Jazeera and the ABC have been quick to portray One Nation as the gun nuts without scruples, yet the means to which they resorted and the unforeseen consequences that could result may well be a case of both organisations having shot themselves in the foot.

  223. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Stimpson, Lizzie, Arky, Bruce

    Hmm. A limited field there. I’m not in it for Motoring Mayhem and Currawong Capers, obviously.
    Bags I have Fashion Tips and Marital Advice (Combined).
    You can have Travelogues, Stimpy. I’m too busy for those. Anyway, it’s about time we had the crazy perspective on timetabled bus trips in city and suburbs. Exciting!

  224. Stimpson J. Cat

    I think using a diagnosed condition as an escape clause is intellectual cowardice.

    Oh I agree.
    Sanity is no excuse for terrible behaviour.
    Neither is Mental Illness.
    The best we can say is that they are potential reasons for terrible behaviour.
    I wish everyone felt as you do.

  225. Mother Lode

    What if you’ve had an arm amputated?

    This is back to the third party independent reviewer I mentioned earlier.

    However there will need to be an amendment to the terms of their engagement, and a separate schedule agreed to by the principals comprehensively outlining civil and criminal liabilities. No doubt different degrees will affect the cost of review services.

    But, as I say, the precise content of the liability schedule is up to the IR and the principals according to specifications and price.

    Like a CO2 tax, I will sell this as a ‘market based mechanism’.

  226. Speedbox

    A few days ago on the Cat somebody posted a few words about how we have luxuriated in our lives since with end of WWII. Some smaller localised wars may have caused some inconvenience and loss, but for the latte class, they were barely noticed.

    The legacy and foundations of previous generations is being wiped from schools, universities and the workplace. Entrepreneurial capability and existing business struggle under growing red-tape whilst taxes stifle business and worker alike. Meanwhile, we are incredibly vulnerable with an electrical grid and generation capacity that is stretched thin on a hot day; very limited liquid fuel reserves; a defense force that has been gradually throttled with appalling procurement decisions; importation of hundreds of thousands with questionable loyalty to their new host nation; weak-willed Government with a pronounced left wing (if not socialist) bias; a huge and growing underclass of citizens permanently hooked on the Government teat.

    And the latte class sip away without a care.

  227. Notafan

    I must be living in a swinging seat.

    The barrage has started.

    Appears both Labor and liberals candidates are are Chinese Australians.

    Only votes that matter?

  228. Arky

    You can have Travelogues, Stimpy.

    ..
    Absolutely not.
    Stick to your forte Lizzie.
    I have it clearly written down here:
    Lizzie B: mind- numbing travelogues and references to the hairy…
    oh, bugger.

  229. jupes

    Yes but you don’t hate me Jupes, so your criticism of me is valid.
    Even if you did hate me it could still be valid.

    Indeed.

  230. Stimpson J. Cat

    There is beauty in minimalism

    Women often say this on viewing the sparse glory of my noble pate.

  231. Arky

    For any readers thinking I’m having a go at Lizzie, rather than pulling her leg, and feeling like sticking an oar in.
    Note: I love her to bits and she is the first cat I reached out to contact by email, a few years back.

  232. Bruce of Newcastle

    Women often say this on viewing the sparse glory of my noble pate.

    Duck or chicken pate?

  233. OldOzzie

    ‘I’m not even going there’: Barnaby Joyce lost for words on ex-wife’s body transformation

    Richard Ferguson

    Barnaby Joyce has refused to dwell on his ex-wife’s extraordinary transformation into an award-winning bodybuilder, which she says was a direct result of their very public split.

    Joyce, no comment on ex-wife Natalie’s bodybuilding


    Natalie Joyce has shed 15kg and donned a green bikini to win two medals at the Compete Naturally (ICN) North Coast Classic bodybuilding competition at New Lambton, NSW on Sunday.

    Ms Joyce split from the former deputy prime minister last year after it was revealed he had an affair with his staffer and now-partner Vikki Campion.

    The ex-Nationals leader was ashen-faced today as he told Sky News he wanted to focus on the people of regional Australia and not his ex-wife on the front pages.

    “I’m not even going to start going to that space, I’m going to concentrate on other people, I’m going to concentrate on the people of my electorate,” he said.

    “I don’t think there are any votes in speaking about yourself.”

    But when pressed by Sky News, Mr Joyce did reveal that he was also trying to keep fit.

    “I go for a swim. I’ll do that as soon as I can (after the interview).”

    Ms Joyce told Women’s Day magazine this weekend that the public split with Mr Joyce left her “in a bad place” and led to her body transformation.

    “I had two choices: either unravel, or shake myself off and aim to get the best out of myself,” she said.

    “In June last year I looked in the mirror and thought ‘I’m not going to let someone else’s appalling behaviour derail me’. So I joined the local gym, and I’ve never looked back. And I’ve always wanted to compete in a bodybuilding comp.”

  234. thefrollickingmole

    There is beauty in minimalism

    Women often say this on viewing the sparse glory of my noble pate.

    For a horrible moment i thought you were going to say “after I drop my trousers”.

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