Thursday Forum: April 11, 2019

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  1. stackja

    We are told NRL player GI has arm problem. DUI charge recently. He’s protected, of course.

  2. Thefrollickingmole

    Good little bit in the oz today on the yank uni admissions scandal. No aristocracy to marry into so instead people use Ivy League degrees to signal thief worthiness. Spending tens of thousands getting your kid into a place ensures your “linage” is sanctified.

  3. Top Ender

    I find him offensive.
    Fire him.
    Now.

    I find them ALL offensive.

    Any organisation or individual who expresses opinions while at work on something to do NOT with their work.

    Just fly your aeroplanes. Play rugby. Run your hotel. Or foodshop.

    Shutup and get on with it.

  4. Roger

    Bill Shorten flags ending tax deduction for accountancy fees

    This is brilliant.

    Go for it, Bill!

    Hit the rich! (i.e. the struggling middle class)

  5. stackja

    mole – uni scam great fun.

  6. Infidel Tiger

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison says rugby player Israel Folau’s latest social media attack on homosexuals was “terribly insensitive”.

    And yet tongue talking Morrison would and should believe every word Folau posted.

    What a terrible person Morrison is.

  7. C.L.

    Assange did not just publish documents. He actively conspired with Bradley Manning to steal the documents.

    I don’t really care, to be honest. They stole documents from an American gestapo which – we now know – was illegally wiretapping Americans and illegally spying on Republicans. Excepting a few raunchy surveillance photos and juicy factoids about world leaders, there are no “secrets” anymore. It’s all a sham; like the old USSR’s plywood ICBMs. Who gives a shit?

  8. Roger

    Certainly there is anecdotal evidence that his comments last year drove some in the LGBTI community to contemplate suicide.

    They must be pretty fragile creatures then.

    Any mental health professional worth their salt will tell you the key to mental health is resilience wrought from how you handle what the world throws at you. You cannot control the world, what you can control is how you react to it.

  9. C.L.

    In one of its reports yesterday, the SMH also named three players who had supported or Twitter-liked Folau and his posts. All three are dark-skinned men. The ARU is inciting hatred of black Christians.

  10. bespoke

    AC definitely needs to find a way to get a higher profile but most of the criticism has been void of constructive solutions.

  11. Makka

    Who gives a shit?

    Exactly. Assange has done far more good than bad. He’s pulled back the curtain of layered bullshit that has been screening turds like Brennan, Clapper and the CIA/FBI traitors – the REAL traitors jupes. The world now knows the facts of US IC duplicity. And that’s the reason why he is such a target.

  12. areff

    If Mudrock was still a hands-on owner

    The poor old bugger must not be aware that the remaining circulation of the Herald Sun is dependent on coffee sales: buy a latte for $4, get a newspaper for free. Because money changes hands it counts as “paid circulation”.

    My local newsagent is filthy dirty on the Herald Sun. He tells me the giveaway policy is keeping customers out of his shop, meaning he’s not flogging smokes, magazines, birthday cards and all the rest.

    Take out the “coffee sales” and the Herald Sun, which boasted paid circulation of 520,000 in 2009, is probably racking up no more than 170,000 in daily M-F paid sales. In a city of five million that’s a shocker.

    Heads would roll were Rupert still at the height of his powers.

    Related: 3AW’s Rumour File on Wednesday reported that a “major Melbourne newspaper” has stopped taking subscriptions and is ending home deliveries. If true, it could only be The Age, which one can only assume is not long for this world. Working against that, they’re still hiring j’ism-school grads.

  13. Dr Faustus

    Certainly there is anecdotal evidence that his comments last year drove some in the LGBTI community to contemplate suicide.

    If you don’t [insert demand here], I’ll, I’ll… I’ll KILL Myself….

    An MO to live by.

  14. Bruce of Newcastle

    Why are all gingerbread people brown? Isn’t that racist?

    Gender neutral gingerbread person launched by supermarket as they ask public to choose a ‘fitting’ name

    The Co-op has launched a gender neutral gingerbread person in order to be “inclusive” and has asked the public to choose a “fitting” name.

    Shoppers have been encouraged to sign up to the supermarket’s website and send name suggestions which would suit a gender-neutral biscuit.

    I’m sad that chocolate g0llyw0g biscuits are no longer available. Stacked and layered with whipped cream and left in the fridge overnight they made a really good layer-cake desert back in the uni house sharing era.

    (via BCF, which is still blocked by my ISP.)

  15. Old School Conservative

    Roger
    #2985797, posted on April 12, 2019 at 9:57 am
    Certainly there is anecdotal evidence that his comments last year drove some in the LGBTI community to contemplate suicide.

    Yet when I challenged that with “Plenty of evidence that gay suicide is caused by pre-existing mental conditions, not comments from athletes.”, The Oz moderators rejected the comment.

    Wimps.

  16. OldOzzie

    Bill Shorten to end tax deduction for accountancy fees

    ingo
    12 minutes ago
    Wake up Australia before it’s to late … the guy is an idiot.

  17. C.L.

    The Co-op has launched a gender neutral gingerbread person in order to be “inclusive” and has asked the public to choose a “fitting” name.

    Shoppers have been encouraged to sign up to the supermarket’s website and send name suggestions which would suit a gender-neutral biscuit.

    I might register and suggest ‘Enoch.’

  18. Cactus

    I dont think Raelene Castle is a plant. Yes she is incompetent, but there is no master plan here. I think NZ Rugby is actually very concerned about the plight of the Australian game. If we are in decline then they are as well. How much money is Australian eyeballs on NZ Rugby worth?

  19. Roger

    Jacinda Ardern…

    One week she’s donning the symbol of a religion which condemns sexually active homosexuals to death, the next she’s condemning Israel Folau for merely repeating the orthodox Christian teaching that sinners who don’t repent will suffer eternal consequences.

    What a foolish woman she is.

  20. stackja

    bespoke – PHON just says something and MSM go off. CB says something and is ignored. CB needs to make a fuss about something/anything.

  21. stackja

    Roger – JA just being herself. NZ voters seemingly approve.

  22. Farmer Gez

    You’ll have noticed Rowe’s cartoon effectively mocked the Resurrection with Easter nearing.
    I’m waiting for his depiction of a certain wedding night in the desert some while ago.

  23. Roger

    Roger – JA just being herself. NZ voters seemingly approve.

    I suspect her fall will be as swift as her rise when it comes.

  24. stackja

    OO – Only the ‘rich’ need accountants.

  25. RobK

    From OOs link @ 9.11am
    “Did you know that if you want to deduct millions off your tax, you get your accountant to do it.-bill shorten.
    Bill, if there weren’t so many complex rules, everyone would be better off.

  26. stackja

    FG – Rowe knows not to pick on dangerous subjects.

  27. hzhousewife

    Bill Shorten on the ABC banging on about “the big end of town”

    Most people I now think that BS IS the big end of town.

  28. stackja

    Roger – JA NZ version of Juliar?

  29. twostix

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison says rugby player Israel Folau’s latest social media attack on homosexuals was “terribly insensitive”.

    And yet tongue talking Morrison would and should believe every word Folau posted.

    We’re witnessing the final death of middle class white people’s stupid love affair with 1980’s-2010 happy clappy evangelical ‘churches’ (cargo-cult copying of the Hollywood depiction of American black gospel churches).

    The last five white people in those places – like morrison – don’t truly believe much of it, and certainly don’t evangelise about anything other than the ‘prosperity’ part (what a coincidence!).

  30. Roger

    The road to hell…

    North Richmond has become a honey pot for heroin dealers and users who exploit the law that allows local injection room users to carry up to 30 hits of heroin on their person.

    “Crime is happening down there but we are forbidden from working on drugs in that area … we were told not to patrol around there, not to do anything,” said one local officer, who did not want to be named.

    Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton…admitted more police may be needed in the area to ensure public safety.”

    More police doing nothing, yes, that’ll work.

  31. Dr Faustus

    Shorten’a plan to cap the deductibility of accounting fees is actually old news.
    The little shit announced this particular gem in his 2017 budget reply. Apparently anyone spending more than $3000 on their tax returns is ‘very wealthy’ and can legally be eaten.

    Will come as a surprise to anyone running a business.

  32. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Some electoral issues that I found had traction with voters I spoke to in the voting lines and which could be simply advertised as follows. (I haven’t included abortion or euthanasia as both are complex longer fights, needing more educational back-up and thus are for another day.) Just some thoughts:

    Conservatives
    Cory Bernardi’s New Party that will

    . fight dangerous ‘gender flexibility’ teaching
    . insist on freedom of religion and speech
    . axe red and green tape from business
    . demand clean coal energy not just sun and wind
    . promote stronger families for a strong economy
    . lower immigration to improve congestion
    . maintain Australia’s proud traditions
    and
    . preserve the Australia we know and love

    Conservatives – for common sense and a better way

  33. OldOzzie

    Terry McCrann: Federal election a no-win situation for the Coalition

    One thing is absolutely crystal clear about the election.

    If Labor wins — as to me, seems certain — it will hit the ground running, straight after the election, in June.

    The man who would be treasurer in a Shorten Labor government — and was, briefly, treasurer in the dying days of the (second) Rudd Labor government in 2013 — Chris Bowen, made that absolutely clear in his Press Club speech on Wednesday.

    He, the prime minister and the broader government will do so with the most Left-wing tax-the-rich and indeed even the not-so-rich policies that we have seen from any Labor government since Gough Whitlam’s in 1972.

    In 2007 Kevin Rudd promised to be John Howard-lite. In 1983 the Hawke government started with an effort to bring business and unions and politicians — not just Labor politicians — together.

    Under treasurer Paul Keating it also delivered the sort of economic reforms that could have been delivered by a ­Coalition government — in fact were totally supported by the then Coalition opposition — and set us, after the ­“recession we had to have”, on the path to 28 years of economic growth.

    But this coming Shorten-Bowen government will have none of any of that.

    It has a program to dramatically increase taxes on negative gearing, franking credits, capital gains and trusts.

    It will not cut the company tax on big companies from 30 per cent, which is now very uncompetitive, with the US down to 21 per cent, and will revisit the cut on medium-sized companies.

    It will also further squeeze especially small and medium-sized businesses with the so-called “living wage”.

    And then there’s the whole issue of power prices, which will just continue to increase and increase at an accelerating rate under Labor’s so-called climate change policy.

    We will get all this because there will be a de facto Labor-Green coalition, at least to push all this through the Senate where they will have either a combined ­majority or be within one or at most two votes of one.

    Bowen wants to try with the “old” Senate in June, but he will get the new Senate on July 1.

    I have to say that, as an analyst, there really is no point in me trying to analyse the government’s proposals.

    The big reason is that they are not going to win. But even if they did craft a miracle, they wouldn’t get their proposals through the Senate and into law.

    This is what makes the two alternative outcomes so very and dangerously different. The government can’t really win even if it does. But Labor really will win. Be under absolutely no misapprehension, we will get what Labor is proposing.

  34. stackja

    hz – BS has always been big end, but fooled enough people so far. Enough voters? Time will tell.

  35. Notafan

    H&R Block must vote LNP.

    Big business will still claim accounting fees, they will just rename the ones that are tax related

  36. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I didn’t include lower taxes, as that is on all agendas anyway. It might be worth saying though.

  37. Mother Lode

    A Libertarian who has’t been struck by reality would say Rugby Australia has every right to sack Folau.

    In fairness they would also hold that Rugby Australia should not have any special patronage from government and there should be as many Rugby associations as members were ready to commit to, and if one of them made absurd judgments of the sort RA has, then people would shift their support to other associations: Hence, the largest association would be the one that attracted most support (not extorted it like the current one), and one that was indifferent to its members and followers would shrivel and die.

    As soon as RA accepted money or special privilege from the government they lose some of their discretion.

    I would love to see RA cark and Israel flourish.

  38. Notafan

    Is that a logic btw?

    People who claim millions in tax deductions will stop doing so because they can’t deduct a few thousand in tax return preparation fees.

    Or does Bill think that things like wages, cost of goods sold, rent et cetera are not legitimate tax deductions and we should be taxing people on gross income?

    Because there are plenty of people sharing memes who actually think that

  39. Roger

    Roger – JA NZ version of Juliar?

    The NZ version of AOC.

    Former president of the International Union of Socialist Youth.

    Talks big but will achieve little except wrecking NZ’s prosperity, such as it is, with her hare-brained idealism. She’s banned offshore oil exploration, for example.

  40. twostix

    Happy clappy churches have done infinitely more damage to christianity in the Australia than communists have.

    What they did to kids in the ’90’s – 2000’s is what we’re reaping now in hyper-aggressive atheism in 30 somethings. They were literal cults, almost all corrupted by money, power or sexual abuse of teenage girls by weirdo 20 something ‘youth leaders’.

    They tried to emulate the world in a christian way so teenagers would stay inside the church but ended up being a worse version of it.

  41. Black Ball

    And yet tongue talking Morrison would and should believe every word Folau posted.

    I am beginning to think that Morrison goes to the same church as KRudd.

  42. stackja

    OO – ALP promises hard labor. Good Australia deserves it. When people finally wake up what will be left?

  43. Knuckle Dragger

    Sooooo,

    If I want to have millions deducted from my tax, all I have to do is hire an accountant?

    WHAT?

    Why the hell wasn’t I informed?

    A belated thank you, Mr Shorten, for sharing with me the secrets of the rich.

  44. OldOzzie

    Rita Panahi: All is lost if Defence chiefs are scared of the dark

    Something is wrong when members of the Australian Navy are banned from marching in an Anzac Day dawn service owing to occupational health and safety concerns. What hope do they have of defending the country if the fear of “tripping in the dark” during a march has their superiors in a flap?

    If a peaceful march to mark the sacrifice of their predecessors is too dangerous, how will they cope under fire or when called upon to neutralise hostile adversaries?

    Mind you, the Australian Defence Force has no qualms about members marching in the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras parade, and shares footage of this on its official website. Last time I checked, the Mardi Gras parade is at night. So why is it that is worthy while a traditional Anzac Day dawn service is too risky? Just what kind of woke simpletons are making these calls on behalf of the men and women who have signed up to serve their country?

    I first read about this madness in a little publication called the South Coast Register, which reported that “in a break with tradition … naval personnel won’t march at the Greenwell Point dawn service”.

    “It is understood an occupational health and safety issue is the reason, with personnel not allowed to march in the dark due to safety concerns. One of the highlights of the dawn services at Greenwell Point is when current serving navy personnel join ex-Diggers in making the solemn 450 metre march from Greenwell Point’s main street to Anzac Park overlooking the Shoalhaven River.

    “Massive crowds always greet the march at Anzac Park — at the Anzac commemorations in 2015, it was estimated 10,000 people surrounded the park to witness the event,” the report said.

    The report went viral and soon senators and former ADF personnel wanted answers.

    Senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells tweeted: “Rita, @SenatorAbetz & I just asked questions about this! Details to be provided on notice but assurance given by (Chief of Navy Australia Michael Noonan) @CN_Australia that CO Albatross has come to an arrangement with RSL!” (HMAS Albatross is the naval air station).

    The response from Defence only made it worse. A spokesman confirmed Navy personnel would not march, but would line up and wait for the march to arrive. “Safety was a factor in the decision not to march,” he said. “The instruction to HMAS Albatross personnel, while different to what may have occurred in the past, has been provided cognisant of procedures traditionally observed by service personnel attending dawn services, and the particular physical and environmental conditions expected at Greenwell Point on April 25, 2019.”

    This revelation follows earlier media reports that ADF brass have ordered their underlings to consider “gender perspective” in everything they do. The insanity isn’t restricted to the Navy: the same woke dogma is being drilled into other ADF personnel, including RAAF pilots who are told to consider “Gender in Air Operations”. The Daily Telegraph revealed the doctrine’s foreword, by RAAF’s director of general strategy and planning, Stephen Edgeley, said embracing the “gender perspective” would enhance operational capability.

    “If the military target is a bridge in a community that is being used as a main route by the enemy to transport weapons, this same bridge may also provide the only route for the local population to gather supplies such as water and firewood,” the doctrine says.

    “Although destroying this target may provide a military advantage against the enemy, the second-order effect may mean that, due to the gendered social roles, women need to travel further afield, on unfamiliar and less secure, well-known or well-lit routes to gather water and firewood”, which could leave them at “an increased risk of sexual and gender-based violence”.

    And last year we had ADF personnel encouraged to paint their fingernails pink to show their support for “equality”.

    It’s only a matter of time before woke warriors rename the ADF. Not only is “Australian” exclusionary but “Force” suggests toxic masculinity. Even “defence” is problematic, as any gender studies academic will tell you.

    Perhaps we should call it The Inclusive Diversity Circle. That’s sure to scare the enemy.

    Our security is in good hands.

  45. Struth:

    The diggers should have registered as a union protest march.

    Should have just closed the streets off and marched anyway – stuff the rules.

  46. C.L.

    I’ve never understood why any of the branches of the ADF march on ANZAC Day (least of all the fucking navy). None of these people were at Gallipoli in 1915.

  47. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yet when I challenged that with “Plenty of evidence that gay suicide is caused by pre-existing mental conditions, not comments from athletes.”, The Oz moderators rejected the comment.

    Challenge them, Old Ozzie. Provide some back up references for your claims. Ask why your comment does not comply with their guidelines. Hairy has had great success with getting his rejected comments released; and has had up to 100 likes on some of them after that.

  48. Roger

    I am beginning to think that Morrison goes to the same church as KRudd.

    I suspect Morrison only goes to church because his wife is religious.

  49. Cassie of Sydney

    “Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2985825, posted on April 12, 2019 at 10:26 am
    Some electoral issues that I found had traction with voters I spoke to in the voting lines and which could be simply advertised as follows. (I haven’t included abortion or euthanasia as both are complex longer fights, needing more educational back-up and thus are for another day.) Just some thoughts:

    Conservatives
    Cory Bernardi’s New Party that will

    . fight dangerous ‘gender flexibility’ teaching
    . insist on freedom of religion and speech
    . axe red and green tape from business
    . demand clean coal energy not just sun and wind
    . promote stronger families for a strong economy
    . lower immigration to improve congestion
    . maintain Australia’s proud traditions
    and
    . preserve the Australia we know and love

    Conservatives – for common sense and a better way”

    Agree 100% Lizzie.

  50. Top Ender

    None of these people were at Gallipoli in 1915.

    Get away CL.

    I was.

  51. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I am still keeping up my eternal optimism, trying to add something to political life and debate where I can, even if at times it all seems hopeless. My experience of life is that nothing is ever really hopeless.

    However, I am glad that a couple of weeks after this election we are heading off o/seas for a month.
    Canada would not be my choice of place for emotional electoral recovery, but it is where Hairy has booked and where we will mostly be going. I am taking my Kindle loaded with plenty of books.

    Always a comfort.

  52. OldOzzie

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2985840, posted on April 12, 2019 at 10:39 am

    Yet when I challenged that with “Plenty of evidence that gay suicide is caused by pre-existing mental conditions, not comments from athletes.”, The Oz moderators rejected the comment.

    Challenge them, Old Ozzie. Provide some back up references for your claims. Ask why your comment does not comply with their guidelines. Hairy has had great success with getting his rejected comments released; and has had up to 100 likes on some of them after that.

    Lizzie,

    was not me making that comment

    Regards

    OldOzzie

  53. Boambee John

    Lizzie at 1026

    Make that “reduce congestion”, not “improve”.

  54. twostix

    Or does Bill think that things like wages, cost of goods sold, rent et cetera are not legitimate tax deductions and we should be taxing people on gross income?

    C.L’s observation the other day of Bill’s romper stomper hair cut was a good one.

    He’s going to stomp the shit out the liberal voting white Australian, he has transmogrified into the physical manifestation of the vicious hate in the hearts of the left at the moment towards anybody to the left of Mao. A hate made hyper-malignant by their unbelievable Trump derangement rage (and it is a literal rage which most of us have personally seen occasionally spill out in the most inappropriate places), they are going to take their rage out on ‘liberal voters’ who are their mental stand in for ‘redneck trump voters’ as soon as they can.

    Labor must not win this election.

  55. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Agree 100% Lizzie.

    We gotta have that coffee and chat again sometime soon. 🙂

  56. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2985808, posted on April 12, 2019 at 10:11 am

    The Co-op has launched a gender neutral gingerbread person in order to be “inclusive” and has asked the public to choose a “fitting” name.

    Shoppers have been encouraged to sign up to the supermarket’s website and send name suggestions which would suit a gender-neutral biscuit.

    I might register and suggest ‘Enoch.’

    Pronounced “Eunuch”.

  57. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Twostix at 10.45am. An excellent account of the current madness of the mental left.

  58. OldOzzie

    Alan Jones defends Israel Folau, attacks Rugby Australia’s decision to terminate $4m contract

    Jessica Cortis
    Reporter

    Alan Jones has hit out at Rugby Australia’s decision to terminate high-profile rugby player Israel Folau’s contract saying the decision has “completely corrupted” free speech in Australia.

    It comes as the sport star’s $4 million contract with Rugby Australia is set to be scrapped following a homophobic social media post condemning homosexuals, drunks and liars where Folau says “Hell awaits you”.

    “It’s got nothing to do with Israel, or rugby, or religion, or homosexuals. Where are we in this country on free speech?” Jones said on his 2GB radio show this morning.

    “It has completely corrupted free speech in this country.

    “It wouldn’t be the first time, in my opinion, that Rugby Australia have got it completely wrong and I think if they have signed this contract or demanded of Israel certain matters outside the playing of the game … then that, I believe, is outside the ambit of what they are able to do,” he went on.

    “We’ve got an issue here because we’re going down a very, very narrow road here.

    “This has gone on and on and on this crap. Out there, people now are terrified of saying anything, they don’t know what they can say.”

    Folau posted his religious views to Twitter and Instagram on Wednesday warning people to “repent” their sins.

    “Those that are living in sin will end up in Hell unless you repent. Jesus Christ loves you and is giving you time to turn away from your sin and come to him,” his post said.

    Rugby Australia Chief Raelene Castle and NSW Rugby Union CEO Andrew Hore yesterday announced their intention to terminate Folau’s contract and a string of sponsors including Qantas, have distanced themselves from the player.

    Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce also condemned Rugby Australia’s decision.

    “He (Folau) is a rugby player with a well known very Christian conservative worldview. They employed him and they knew that how can they sack him?” he said on Twitter.

    I don’t agree with the opinions of Israel Folau but I am distinctly uncomfortable with this pile on. He is a rugby player with a well known very Christian conservative worldview. They employed him and they knew that how can they sack him?
    — Barnaby Joyce (@Barnaby_Joyce) April 11, 2019

    New video has also emerged of the rugby player giving a controversial sermon on how celebrating Christmas and Easter is wrong, just two days after he posted other contentious religious comments online.

    The video obtained by The Daily Telegraph, was taken last month and shows Folau preaching on a church altar during a Sunday mass.

    “Christmas and Easter, that’s man-made,” Folau tells worshippers, before attacking Christians who do not devoutly read the bible.

    Rugby Australia are set to rip up Israel Folau’s contract! It’s because of his controversial social media posts condemning homosexuals and vision of him preaching that people who celebrate Christmas and Easter are “heathens”. Do you agree with their decision?
    — The Today Show (@TheTodayShow) April 11, 2019

    “For so many years we were caught up in the world thinking that celebrating Christmas was biblical, but when you read this passage you can see what God says about it.”

    Folau proceeds to read a verse from the Bible and tells worshippers that Jesus’ mother Mary shouldn’t be held up to the church as an idol.

    “If we don’t go back to the scriptures and see what God says, we can easily fall into the tradition of man, thinking we’re doing the right thing.

    “There’s a whole lot of people that go to church, but they’re not following the doctrine of Christ.

    Scott Morrison criticised Folau for making a “terribly insensitive comment” about gay people.

    “It was a terribly insensitive comment and they have taken action as a result,” Mr Morrison told the ABC this morning.

    “It is important that people act with love, care and compassion to their fellow citizens and to speak sensitively to their fellow Australians. That’s what I believe.”

    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern also took aim at Folau, saying his comments were “damaging”.

    “Obviously at a personal level I clearly don’t agree with what he said, and (I’m) very mindful of the fact that he is for many a role model,” she said during a press conference.

    “He’s a person in a position of influence and I think that with that comes responsibility,” Ms Ardern said.

    It is understood Folou’s new four-year contract with Rugby Australia, signed in February, had a social media clause.

    The 30-year-old has previously come under fire for preaching his controversial religious beliefs online and later wrote on the Player’s Voice last April, that he would be willing to walk away from the game.

    “(Rugby Australia chief executive Raelene Castle and Waratahs general manager Andrew Hore) explained their position and talked about external pressure from the media, sponsors and different parts of the community, which I understand,” he wrote last year.

    “After we’d all talked, I told Raelene if she felt the situation had become untenable — that I was hurting Rugby Australia, its sponsors and the Australian rugby community to such a degree that things couldn’t be worked through — I would walk away from my contract, immediately.”

    Folau is yet to respond to the statement made by Rugby Australia.

  59. Roger

    I’ve never understood why any of the branches of the ADF march on ANZAC Day (least of all the fucking navy). None of these people were at Gallipoli in 1915.

    The RAN was involved in the Dardanelles campaign, with submarine AE2 being the first Allied vessel to penetrate Turkish defences and cause damage to shipping. It was later scuttled after being hit.

  60. Knuckle Dragger

    Hmm.

    WWF just sent me an email asking whether I would be interested in adopting a koala. Apparently time is running out for them. They didn’t say why time is running out, or what will apparently happen when it does run out.

    I can adopt a koala for $15, $20, $30 or $50 per month. I assume from this that $50 a month gets me a prime koala, while $15 gets me a shit one – presumably at the end of its life or with VD of some sort. I also get a photo of a koala in a frame and a certificate lauding my adoption of a koala.

    The hide of these people.

    As soon as someone can point out to me what koalas have contributed to this country, aside from being fluffy toys at airports and cadging valuable drinking water from firefighters I’ll get my wallet out.

    Until then, koalas, you’re on your own. Pull your socks up and get on with it like everyone else.

  61. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie at 1026
    Make that “reduce congestion”, not “improve”.

    Point taken, Johno. 🙂

  62. woolfe

    Hey they have moved from Global warmening to Climate Change and now Extreme Events which covers everything thus hot? CO2, Cold? Co2, Dry? CO2, Wet? CO2. Get it?

  63. Can anyone tell us the name of the street that the Hierarchy won’t let the lads march on?
    Just so’s I can look at it on Google maps…

  64. Roger

    I’ve never understood why any of the branches of the ADF march on ANZAC Day (least of all the fucking navy).

    The RAN was involved in the Dardanelles campaign, with submarine AE2 being the first Allied vessel to elude Turkish defences and enter the strait on 25th April.

  65. vicki

    I would love to see RA cark and Israel flourish.

    Well, the former is already underway, & I have no doubt that Folau will go on to greater achievements.

  66. Bruce of Newcastle

    WWF just sent me an email asking whether I would be interested in adopting a koala.

    What do they taste like?

  67. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sorry Old Ozzie, it was Old School Conservative, in response to something Roger put up.

    Gee, it is sometimes hard to tell all you ‘old’ guys apart. 😀

    It’s easier if people are Fred, William, Brutus or Taipan Tongue. But once you have chosen your handle you are stuck with it on here. If you change it to something else it becomes confusing, although if you make a point of notifying all Cats of the change you can sometimes get away with it. Arky’s a dab hand at that.

  68. twostix

    I’ve seen an entire office of cultural liberal voters held hostage by the raging outbursts of two ABC readers.

    It’s a common thing, like raging muzzles, they suicide bomb themselves into normal people’s sense of decency and politeness. Nobody wants to engage with people who are visibly mentally unstable at the office, on politics.

    But the Australian everyman is going to have to find some animal in him if he wants to survive.

  69. OldOzzie

    Memories

    Watching Baby Jake with my 2 year old Grandson – spaceship adventure and Sputnik 1 goes by

    Memories of standing outside in the night in 1957 to get a glimpse of Sputnik 1 going across the sky

  70. Leigh Lowe:

    Asphalt.
    Otherwise known as bitchumen.

    Bituperson, please.
    Don’t misgender the streets, please.

  71. feelthebern

    For the last couple of World Cups I have only watched the All Blacks & the Welsh play (& obviously whoever they’ve been playing).
    The All Blacks due to the history they’ve been making.
    The Welsh, because they play a form of rugby that’s enjoyable to watch.

  72. Mother Lode

    Or does Bill think that things like wages, cost of goods sold, rent et cetera are not legitimate tax deductions and we should be taxing people on gross income?

    Bill (and Labor and the Greens in general) are primitive creatures that would be more in their element blindly nudging appendages in the mud at the bottom of primordial seas. (The Greens are more honest in this respect and have been able to accept their cravings for a benthic life – following a lazy arc of existence between a coalescing and a dissolution of existence without ever being aware of it.)

    Labor has a few primitive urges – instincts for survival that they develop to the extent that their efficiency becomes their undoing. They will harvest tax like an algal mat, proliferating to such numbers that they inevitably exhaust this resource and they all die.

    A tax is instituted. In the debates surrounding it the flaws and excesses are identified and made exceptions. Take the diesel rebate. Ideally farmers and miners should not be paying excise at any stage. But that is complicated so they made it instead that they paid the excise like everyone else and then plead their case to get it back. More work for the farmers and miners and less work for the public service.

    Once this has become established and people forget the reasons, things like the rebate can be treated as a loophole of sorts. A rort. Because the default mental position has become ‘diesel has an excise’, and starting from this principle the rebate looks like a subsidy.

    That is Labor thinking. It is worth remembering that they are, in their truest essence, just scum.

  73. C.L.

    The RAN was involved in the Dardanelles campaign, with submarine AE2 being the first Allied vessel to elude Turkish defences and enter the strait on 25th April.

    Yeah, I know. All those blokes are dead.

  74. feelthebern

    Where’s corporal taint gone?
    Get back here & explain how you think virtue signalling works.

  75. stackja

    WS – peroffspring as person is male.

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    To complete the national disgrace, please let the Wallabies be ordered to develop their own version of the haka, similar to the Thurston-inspired public imbecility showcased by rugby league last year.

    Or the year before. Can’t remember due to its underwhelmingness.

  77. The All Blacks due to the history they’ve been making.

    Their PM also makes history.
    Faint hope of that happening in this country.
    The Kiwis are superior at both rugby and government.

  78. OldOzzie

    The AFR View

    A referendum on national prosperity

    Bill Shorten’s plan is quite at odds with the national economic successes of the last three decades

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison says that the vote on May 18 is about “keeping our economy strong”. The Labor Party’s leader Bill Shorten has called it “a referendum on wages” and all about fairness. But Mr Shorten has got the two things the wrong way around. Mr Morrison has at least got the horse in front of the cart: get the economy growing, and wages will follow. Get the economy wrong and nothing good can happen.

    Both sides of politics suggest the election is about the rising cost of living. But the Reserve Bank is vainly trying to push consumer price inflation above 2 per cent a year. “Cost of living” complaints are code for weak wages growth, money on the kitchen table. And that means its about the weak growth in national income. For a fabulous two decades, until resource boom era commodity export prices peaked in 2011, per capita net disposable national income increased by two-thirds in real terms. Now the International Monetary Fund reckons the meagre growth since then will continue for the next five years — not the stuff that the Australian Dream is made of, or what Australians will vote for on May 18. And that is before any new shocks arrive from the most unstable geo-political environment in a generation and China’s economic engine slows.

    That outlook cannot change without a reboot of the economy, to attract the capital and the talent to keep the economy competitive and growing. Prosperity comes from productivity, driven by investment and incentive. Yet at almost every opportunity, Labor seems to put these things behind its agendas of populist-driven faux fairness and excessive redistribution. It needs to explain how its policies will drive the growth that must happen before we can spend it.

    Both Labor and the Coalition are offering one-off tax cash splashes as they seek to redistribute a slowly growing national income pie. But Labor must explain how relying on incentive-blunting bracket creep will structurally grow the pie. The Coalition proposes to flatten the tax system by 2024, driving aspiration and bringing more low-paid people back to the workforce – just as Labor’s own tax review recommended in 2010. Labor has reacted to even this modest reform with outright furphies about cleaners and doctors paying the same rates of tax when the proportional amounts paid are vastly different. But both parties have tax policy the wrong way around, hitting productive earnings rather than taking from consumption through a higher GST. And the Coalition gave up on company tax cuts, a policy which would have changed the entire climate for investment in Australia. Instead a country with an extensive reliance on imported capital now dices with scaring capital away with an ugly corporate tax regime.

    Labor must explain why its workplace policy is to hand the keys to productivity growth back to the union movement, which wants to replace enterprise bargaining with the free-for-all of industry wide pattern bargaining. This will be piloted by an ACTU that believes it is entitled to break the law as and when needed. This addiction to adversarial conflict is not the way to the high-performance, co-operative workplaces needed in today’s digital and globalised economy. Yet it is also the cost of years of aversion to IR reform under Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull.

    And after six years in government, the Coalition can only offer a cobbled-together energy and climate change plan that perversely waves a punishing big stick at companies it counts on to invest risk capital in new capacity. Labor’s plan at least puts a market price on carbon emissions; but it gives little guidance on how it will reach a target of 50 percent lower emissions than in 2005. Its 50 per cent renewable plan is set to avoid being outbid by the Greens, regardless of the cost to the economy and competitiveness.

    Annual real net disposable income per capita * ($’000)

    Either way, a decade of confusion and the collapse of our national energy cost advantage looks set to continue.

    Labor plans big-taxing, big-spending budgets on health, education and the national disability scheme, which it will measure not on concrete outcomes but on the amount of money that would-be ministers can promise. But its two flagship policies to pay for this may not deliver even on their own terms, as the revenue that Labor assumes from its big new taxes on property investors and retirees fails to materialise. The Australian Financial Review has raised a reasonable concern Labor has underestimated the amount of negatively-geared property investment now goes into new dwellings – thus undermining the revenue it expects to get from its crackdown on tax concessions. In any case, raising taxes on a falling housing market now looks reckless, a concern raised by ratings agency Moody’s. Abruptly ending franking credit refunds both tells the self-reliant saver not to bother, and discourages equity investment in Australia.

    The Coalition has struggled for much of the past six years because on the eve of the 2013 election, Tony Abbott promised to fix the massive deficits of the Rudd Gillard government without the cuts he belatedly tried to impose. Politically, the Coalition never recovered from that lack of economic honesty.

    In 2019, Labor is starting out from its own fundamental error. This time, it is Labor’s flawed belief that it can pay for massive ‘fairness’ agenda and a growing surplus by loading up the productive parts of the economy with new taxes on investors and savers, globally-high company taxes, mandated pay rises, and a vague but costly climate policy. A combination of higher taxes and bigger government spending will drag on economic growth, and hence on the tax base, undermining its claim to deliver bigger surpluses.. Without the growth that Labor cannot deliver, Labor’s $280 billion tax and spending chest is simply another $280 billion burden on the rest of the economy.

    The mediocre standard of living outlook forecast by the IMF seems a long way from the 27 years of economic expansion that Mr Morrison at The Australian Financial Review Business Summit called “arguably our most significant national achievement”. This was a great bipartisan success over the years, but no longer. Mr Shorten’s populist plan to tax and spend his way to political victory appears at odds with the basis of Australia’s modern prosperity that a Labor Government in the 1980s and 90s helped create.

  79. stackja

    ALP haven’t changed ever. Same policies just new names. Voters keep electing ALP expecting a different outcome.

  80. Tel

    “Christmas and Easter, that’s man-made,” Folau tells worshippers, before attacking Christians who do not devoutly read the bible.

    I’m pretty sure the JW’s have been saying that for a while.

    Then again, if God made men, and men made Christmas … you figure out the implications.

  81. Bruce of Newcastle

    Their PM also makes history.

    Ah yes a totalitarian minority government. One person of no identifiable gender, one vote, once.
    The boot on the human face forever with a stiletto heel.

  82. Arky

    However, I am glad that a couple of weeks after this election we are heading off o/seas for a month.
    Canada would not be my choice of place for emotional electoral recovery, but it is where Hairy has booked and where we will mostly be going. I am taking my Kindle loaded with plenty of books.

    ..
    Don’t neglect to post hourly updates of even the most trivial minutiae here:

    ..
    Hairy and I just arrived at the Montreal Four Season’s Cafe and Mapel Syrup Emporium.
    Quite a morning! We had to take the stairs as my lift phobia has been exacerbated by a dream I had last night of being a croissant. Hairy is soooo patent with me: “Och, aye” He says to me. “You’re a fair but lunatic lass, crazy as a bunch of Aberdeen squid”. Ah ha ha ha. 🙃
    The Uber driver had on an aftershave I could not quite place, and far too much of it. Until we returned to the hotel and laughed at the complementary maple syrup lozengers placed thoughtfully in the bathroom waste bin by the brusque maid, whereupon I realised what the odor in the cab was: everyone stinks of maple syrup and bacon.

  83. twostix

    The Kiwis are superior at both rugby and government.

    Never fitted into the Australian nation did you? Always loving anyone but.

    It’s the animating spirit behind anyone who’s over 30 and still a leftwing goon. It’s the motivation behind dissolving the national culture and social mores and opening the borders, etc.

  84. Stimpson J. Cat

    Israel Folau banned from rugby.

    Israel spacecraft crashes into the moon.

    Coincidence?

    God is not happy folks.

    😂

  85. Knuckle Dragger

    Horse Face McSurrender Sheet has certainly made history, window licker.

    She is the first world leader in modern history to globally display her and her nation’s subservience to a Stone Age death cult that favours goats over women, throws happy people off buildings and despite earlier setbacks continues to try and park large jets in the middle of skyscrapers.

    Idiot.

  86. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    AC definitely needs to find a way to get a higher profile but most of the criticism has been void of constructive solutions.

    I’m being constructive: produce some better advertising.

    Cory is Mr. Nice Guy, and that is OK by me. Conservatives don’t need to be mongrels. But they do need to be occasional hard hitters, and I’ve seen Cory do that a few times on PM Live etc. He could go harder in his ads, with statements about conservatism. It is a philosophy of conserving the good and changing the bad, using the common sense gained from everyday life. That’s a simple message that people can understand and relate to, but it has to be tethered to a program of action. Otherwise it could well apply to Fabian socialism. Also, philosophy is not much good for persuasion, especially when handing out HTV’s. It might make people take one, but you’d then have to explain further, as they received no further policy information on the HTV. The accompanying candidate’s leaflet did do some good I am sure although many had no time to read it before voting. The HTV’s are the essential message carriers for a small new Party.

    My view is that this Party will build only slowly, but they need to avoid distressing their supporters by making juvenile mistakes, such as believing their own hubris about their impact and thus producing useless advertisements. Advertising works but it has to targeted and carry a cut-through message.

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    apols. No blockquotes in my above post – all my own work.

  88. Rossini

    If a poofter wasn’t running the company ….would anyone really care what an athlete said about poofters?

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Umm. The first sentence, not in blockquotes, was the sentence intended to be a blockquote. Trying to comment too fast as time, as ever, is limited here.

    It is time I had a mid-morning break, coffee and a bikkie, before doing other things.

  90. OldOzzie

    Boeing said that 737 Max 8 is ‘not suitable’ for certain airports

    Before last month’s crash of a flight that began in Ethiopia, Boeing said in a legal document that large, upgraded 737s “cannot be used at what are referred to as ‘high/hot’ airports.”

    At an elevation of 7,657 feet – or more than a mile high – Addis Ababa’s Bole International Airport falls into that category. High elevations require longer runways and faster speeds for takeoff.
    .

  91. OldOzzie

    Vulnerable To Failure – Boeing 737 Sensors Linked To Over 140 Incidents

    In their preliminary report, the team investigating the crash of ET302 determined that while there were actions that the pilots could have taken to avert the crash, the confusing alarms triggered by a faulty sensor ultimately proved too confusing, even as the pilots followed the steps laid out by Boeing in its safety manual.

    As the focus of the investigation shifts to sensors that have been installed on all planes (not just those made by Boeing) – though the company has said it will include an additional sensor on 737 MAXs as part of its revamp of the plane’s anti-stall software – Bloomberg has published chilling report that raises serious questions about how these sensors managed to avoid scrutiny, given a history of malfunctions that stretches back to the 1990s.

    Some 140 incidents involving faulty or damaged sensors have been reported in that time, according to a review of publicly available data by Bloomberg. Of those, 25 cases involved the same type of faulty alert that led to the crash of ET302, and all 157 people on board.

  92. feelthebern

    Corporal Taint arrives.
    Posts something stupid.
    Leaves.

  93. Roger

    “Christmas and Easter, that’s man-made,” Folau tells worshippers, before attacking Christians who do not devoutly read the bible.

    I’m pretty sure the JW’s have been saying that for a while.

    It goes back to the English Puritans.

    Folau’s mistake here is to insist on a divine warrant for every facet of worship (as did the Puritans). That is the religion of the old covenant, not the new covenant. The church year and its attendant festivals are a man made worship and teaching tool focused on the life of Christ (Advent to Ascension and Pentecost) and his teachings (Sundays after Pentecost). That doesn’t mean they are offensive to God, i.e. sinful, simply because they are conceived by man. That path leads to breaking stained glass windows and demolishing other works of devotional art.

    And Folau’s use of an Old Testament text to prove the harmless custom of the Christmas tree is idolatrous is anachronistic at best, since the Christmas tree was not introduced as a Christian symbol until late medieval times in northern Europe.

    Israel is no doubt an earnest believer, but he needs to learn to temper that earnestness with knowledge.

  94. feelthebern

    One thing is clear.
    Corporal Taint is easily led.
    Not much first level thinking, let alone second or third level.

  95. Mark A

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2985889, posted on April 12, 2019 at 11:27 am

    Not to put too fine a point on it. Re AC.

    Be a blooming politician like the rest. Go for the jugular.

    Will become a force?
    If they don’t get at least two others in, other than Cory, forget it.

  96. OldOzzie

    Daily Telegraph Editorial: All the facts on Labor’s big tax


    Because Australians have become used to hearing that May 18 would be the date for our next federal election, day one of the actual campaign felt much like any day during the previous weeks.

    Except for a marked increase in intensity, of course. And that intensity will further increase on the campaign’s second day, during which Prime Minister Scott Morrison will reveal the full extent of Labor’s taxation plans.

    To this point, Bill Shorten and Labor have been able to promise a “best of all worlds” scenario, with a combination of boosted services and no great hike in taxes to cover them

    Additionally, Shorten’s Budget reply speech committed Labor to delivering an even more substantial surplus than is anticipated from the Morrison Coalition government. This means that any blowout in government spending under Labor could not be placed on the nation’s credit card.

    New treasury costings seized upon by the Prime Minister appears to point out from where exactly the money for that extra spending will be sourced.

    According to those costings, if Labor’s policies under Shorten were to be put in place, Australians would cop an increased tax burden of nearly $400 billion during the next decade.

    This would represent an additional $5400 for every Australian household on top of their usual tax commitments. As well, it would establish a Shorten government as the highest-taxing in our nation’s history.

    It all boils down to what Prime Minister Morrison is able to present as a simple equation. “The more they spend the more they tax and the more you pay,” the PM said. “Australians will pay more under Labor.”

    Treasury data estimates that more than two million people in NSW alone would be blocked from planned personal income tax cuts if Labor wins the election, and that a further 159,000 people across NSW would be hit by Labor’s deficit levy.

    In response, would-be Labor treasurer Chris Bowen ramped up the class-war rhetoric. “Labor has a plan to reverse the Liberals’ cuts to schools and hospitals and deliver the biggest cancer care package in Australian history,” Bowen said.

    “We’re paying for it by making multinationals pay their fair share and closing tax loopholes for the top end of town.”

    It is going to be a frantic month ahead of May 18.

  97. Mater

    Their PM also makes history.

    You mean the ‘Mouth of Sauron’?
    I see similarities on a number of levels.

  98. Dr Faustus

    I’m enjoying Jacinda Ahern’s important contributions to Australian public life. She’s made it illegal to publicly question the devotion of a certain ME religion to modern social values – and now seems to be successfully repeating the process with our pooves.

    She really needs to demand we develop a welcome to sodomy ceremony.

  99. Makka

    The Kiwis are superior at ………..government.

    Setting Rugby aside for the mo, that’s what leftist idiots like you were saying years ago about Chavez. Smarter heads will reserve judgement.

  100. stackja

    Tel – Christ was born. Day, date not recorded, year mentioned in Gospel.
    Christ crucified again day mentioned Friday, and rose to life again on a Sunday. The rest

  101. Nelson Kidd-Players

    More coffee, Lizzie. 😉

    Looking forward to the travelogues. With respect to Arky’s comment, I’m reminded of the concept of whether we are talking about people, about events or about ideas. For me, regardless of how much of the first two you include, your best comments are the ones that also mix in a healthy dose of the third.

  102. OldOzzie

    Daily Telegraph Editorial: No marching in April

    Anzac Day without ­marches would be like NRL Grand Final day without rugby league. Yet that is exactly what some planned Anzac Day commemorations are facing. Following news yesterday that naval personnel would be banned from marching to a Dawn Service at Greenwell Point, now the Epping RSL sub-branch has been blocked from holding a traditional five-minute march for veterans and schoolchildren after an Anzac Sunday service this weekend.

    The Greenwell Point ban was due to safety concerns involving sailors marching in darkness. The Epping call is due to traffic issues and fear of terrorism.

    “It’s just too busy at the ­location to do it,” Ryde Police Area Command traffic supervisor sergeant Leonie Abberfield told The Daily Telegraph.

    “We also have hostile vehicle mitigation to stop someone breaching the perimeter in heightened terrorist activity.”

    So that’s it for the march. Hostile vehicles have halted a solemn commemoration of Australian soldiers who suffered far graver hostilities in the ­service of our nation.

  103. Mother Lode

    The Co-op has launched a gender neutral gingerbread person in order to be “inclusive” and has asked the public to choose a “fitting” name.

    So they create a gingerbread person that is analogous to none of the exponentially increasing genders. It is different to them all.

    This is not inclusive, but the precise opposite of being universally exclusive.

    Probably a hint as to what a nonsense all these pieties are is that the people who insist they have found the problem have absolutely no idea what the answer looks like.

  104. OldOzzie:

    According to those costings, if Labor’s policies under Shorten were to be put in place, Australians would cop an increased tax burden of nearly $400 billion during the next decade.

    Anyone like to make a bet that Labor is a dead set cert for the next election?

  105. stackja

    … is man speculating about specific time. I believe in the basic story. Others can accept or not. Their decision.

  106. feelthebern

    According to those costings, if Labor’s policies under Shorten were to be put in place, Australians would cop an increased tax burden of nearly $400 billion during the next decade.

    Yeah but free stuff.

  107. Arky

    With respect to Arky’s comment,

    ..
    Not a comment.
    An homage. Watch out for more updates from Lizzie and the Hairy Scotsman, I mean Irish dude, in Canada, when next our Heroine and her man take a fairy to Lumberjack Island.
    Much shenanagans ensue, and the fairy finds true love.

  108. stackja

    WS – ALP as always relies on gullibility of voters. First Gough, then Bob, Paul then Kev, Juliar now supposedly BS.

  109. feelthebern

    Part of me hopes that the ALP wins so QLD can have a Labor state & federal government for a few electoral cycles.
    That would finally shut Corporal Taint up about tax payer funded service delivery.

  110. OldOzzie

    Ray Hadley, The Daily Telegraph

    4. While Zali Steggall is challenging Tony Abbott in Warringah on ­the climate change issue, it hasn’t stopped her from hiring a convoy of gas-guzzling trucks advertising her campaign.

    5. The RAAF has instructed its pilots to consider “gendered social roles” before launching bombing raids.

    A ­senior RAAF officer talks about considering whether a targeted bridge might stop women from sourcing water or firewood if it were destroyed.

    So a pilot is on a sortie in some remote part of the world and is told a bridge is ­allowing terrorists to move against our troops they now have to consider what’s the greater good: saving our troops’ lives or people getting water and firewood more easily.

    The place officially has gone mad.

    7. There was a survey released through the week where a panel of experts named the Best British sitcoms of all time.

    Despite airing only 12 ­episodes Fawlty Towers was a deserved winner, but how Yes, Minister or Yes, Prime Minister couldn’t crack it in the top 20 is beyond me.

    That series from almost 40 years ago is as relevant today as it was back in the 1980s when it comes to a satirical look at politics.

  111. Mater

    One thing is clear.
    Corporal Taint is easily led.
    Not much first level thinking, let alone second or third level.

    It’s quite the opposite, I think. He sees the second and third order impacts very clearly.
    It’s not complicated. ‘Old’ Australia must burn.

  112. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Perhaps the gingerbread can be baked as separate body parts so the purchasers can assemble them as desired.

    Would also work for kiddies who want to play doctors, specialising in mid- to late-term âbõrtíoñ.

  113. zyconoclast

    At Bolt’s strange site, no posts on the election or Folau or Assange or Rush.
    Zip.

    My bet is this:
    1. Geoffrey Rush decision is bad because limits free speech.
    1. Israel Folau decision good because he upset homos (the others on his list can burn in hell)

  114. Black Ball

    She is the first world leader in modern history to globally display her and her nation’s subservience to a Stone Age death cult that favours goats over women, throws happy people off buildings and despite earlier setbacks continues to try and park large jets in the middle of skyscrapers.

    Not quite the first, Obama bowing to the Saudi Arabian king was ordinary. Then Trudeau’s work on his sojourn last year was pathetic.

  115. Nelson Kidd-Players

    When can we have a car ride, Arky?

  116. stackja

    OO – Missed Daily Telegraph editorial. Thank you.

  117. lotocoti

    She really needs to demand we develop a …

    The ARU are working on it.
    The Wallabies may not proceed beyond the RWC pool matches, but they’ll respect a damn good rodgering.

  118. Arky

    Model A on hold while I write hourly updates from Canada.

  119. zyconoclast

    Peter Beattie has said Folau is not welcome back in League as he doesn’t pass the NRL’s “inclusiveness” test.
    Can someone please point me to the NRL’s inclusiveness test?
    First Ive ever heard of it.

    It’s a variation of the pub test.
    The NRL one is also referred to as the active participation in a gay bath house test.
    I suspect most NRL players are more than happy to oblige with this.

  120. Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastle

    Hop over to donaitkin.com, on the latest (election) thread, search for “exponential”, and join the argument with Chris.

  121. Roger

    Daily Telegraph Editorial: No marching in April

    Whatever happened to “They won’t change the way we live!”?

  122. Percy Popinjay

    Speaking of self declared gender neutral gingerbread persons, here’s a pic of one experiencing “difficulties with police”, in London.

  123. OldOzzie

    Abbott foe tied to Left in her early legal days

    From the Comments

    Gustav
    1 hour ago
    Ms. Steggall. The company we keep.
    Advisors: Tim Flannery, can we assume that Mr. Flannery is advising Ms. Steggall on climate change?
    ———————————————————————
    Co-Campaign Managers –

    Louise Hislop: However, ”…the Daily Telegraph can reveal Ms Steggall’s co-campaign manager Louise Hislop has praised former long term GetUp campaign boss Sally Rugg for contributing to her “education and self-improvement” when she attended a speech by Ms Rugg in September.

    -Anthony Reed: is (ALP MEMBER) who masterminded Kerryn Phelps’s victory in the October by-election in Wentworth, is a veteran Labor Party operative.
    ————————————————————————————
    Other entities whose main objective is to unseat Mr. Abbott.

    -Get-up Although denying help from get-up, it can’t be denied that Get-up is 100% behind Ms. Steggall in their efforts to get rid of Mr.Abbott. Get-up only target those who they perceive to be conservative.

    -CFMEU/unions. Always there in the background with funding.

    – Labor candidate (Dean Harris) appears to be running dead (didn’t turn up either for Paul Murray live) which can only assist Ms.Steggall.

    John
    3 hours ago
    Don’t think I would want someone who did not succeed at commercial law, now a family lawyer, representing me in Canberra. Maybe Warringah voters think differently.

    Greg
    3 hours ago
    I have changed a few words in my post a few days ago ( highlited in (CAPS)

    Gutless are Labor (AND STEGGALL). Paul M hosted a Q and A session in the seat of Gilmore (WARRINGAH) and Labor (AND STEGGALL) did not bother turning up. Labor are so inarticulate they could not mount any coherent argument on any Topic.

    Deplorable #1

  124. OldOzzie

    Tablet
    Middle East

    What Americans Need to Understand About Israel’s Election Results


    Here’s what the media and pollsters fail to get about Bibi’s enduring appeal

  125. stackja

    Tel – As I posted earlier. I believe the basic story is correct. Details vary.

  126. Rabid Koala

    A parking r anger in Sydney has been attacked by m uslims driving around in a car with fake number plates. I mmigrants committing the crimes Aussies won’t.

  127. Eyrie

    “Vulnerable To Failure – Boeing 737 Sensors Linked To Over 140 Incidents”
    Over how many years and how many flights? Stupid article. There’s nothing wrong with the 737 Max even with the old software. The Ethiopian crew had been clued up on the MCAS after the Lion Air crash. They apparently didn’t have a clue.
    What a charlie foxtrot.

  128. Infidel Tiger

    “Christmas and Easter, that’s man-made,” Folau tells worshippers, before attacking Christians who do not devoutly read the bible.

    Let’s be honest, Izzy is a whacko bird, but he’s also a very good lad.

    Who on earth is really offended by this stuff?

  129. stackja

    Roger – They will keep trying. People need to continue to resist. Leftists failed in 1960s to end ANZAC Day.

  130. Eyrie

    The SMH article is also stupid. Of course the lighter aircraft is better for hot and high airports with shorter runways. Make the runway longer and no problem. See La Paz, Bolivia.
    I never knew there were so many aero engineering qualified journos.

  131. stackja

    IT – IF is stirring up the usual suspects. Good on him.

  132. Roger

    Roger – They will keep trying. People need to continue to resist. Leftists failed in 1960s to end ANZAC Day

    Stacks, along with the monarchy, ANZAC Day is the last vestige of the old Australia.

    If they can’t destroy it from without they will try to do so from within.

  133. stackja

    Eyrie – SMH have the best Google readers.

  134. Helen

    What is irking me at the moment, as a member of the Australian Conservatives, is that Cory Bernardi is making the same mistake as Labor, waffling without policy information. He relies on everyone comprehending his notion of ‘common sense’ without, in his new TV ad, even once saying what might constitute such sense on any key issue at all. As it stands, it is mere waffle, and we had quite enough of that under Turnbull, thank you Cory. In the NSW election I handed out the Australian Conservatives’ how-to-vote which had not one jot of information on it about what this Party stood for, apart from ‘common sense’ and ‘a better way’. For a small relatively unknown Party this is NOT good enough.

    Totally agree Lizzie.

    I watched the ad and thought at the end of it – I know nothing. Waste of resources. Cori was better value as a Liberal Senator.

  135. Roger

    Conclusion: Folau is correct.

    No, he’s not.

    I’ve written why not but it’s gone into moderation – must have used a naughty word.

    If it doesn’t come out soon I’ll re-post later.

  136. Helen

    And they have consumed a party in the process, Family First, who actually did stand for something and was on the way up.

  137. OldOzzie

    Tablet
    Middle East

    What Americans Need to Understand About Israel’s Election Results


    Here’s what the media and pollsters fail to get about Bibi’s enduring appeal

  138. Confused Old Misfit

    Model A on hold while I write hourly updates from Canada.

    From where in the land of the frozen yank are you writing?

  139. feelthebern

    Shorten says that accounting fees are a rort.
    How so?
    If I want tax advice, I should have to pay for it shouldn’t I?
    What next, regulating the price of hair cuts?

  140. OldOzzie

    Tablet
    Middle East

    What Americans Need to Understand About I#rael’s Election Results


    Here’s what the media and pollsters fail to get about Bibi’s enduring appeal

  141. notafan

    Israel abandoned Mormonism for another Christian cult

    he should find better things to to than attack Catholicism, no pretending that is not what is going on there.

    Never goes out of fashion in evangelical circles does it?

    the journalist said he spoke at Sunday ‘mass’

    Do some homework, ignoramus.

  142. Helen

    “Christmas and Easter, that’s man-made,”

    Yesterday I thought how nice it would be to be his wife and life partner, but today I will opt for Captain, who loves me and occasionaly gives me presents. (And is very kind and non judgemental about my failings .)

  143. Infidel Tiger

    Shorten says that accounting fees are a rort.

    After getting my superfund audit bill, I tend to agree.

    Shortens plan is of course to punish SMSF’s. He’s acting on union instructions.

  144. Fred

    Izzy made a long list of the people going to hell. Why is it that only one group has complained?

  145. feelthebern

    “I’ll give you my SMSF when you pry it from my cold, dead hands”

  146. Arky

    From where in the land of the frozen yank are you writing?

    ..
    Lumberjack Island.

  147. feelthebern

    Did someone say Lumberjack?

  148. Infidel Tiger

    Israel abandoned Mormonism for another Christian cult

    he should find better things to to than attack Catholicism, no pretending that is not what is going on there.

    If i was offended by anything Israel has done it was wearing white high tops and a denim jacket in the house of the Lord.

    If there’s a bloke with a guitar anywhere near by then I’ll have to agree he should be banned.

  149. notafan

    Tel are you really going to JW’s for confirmation?

    exJW’s love showing photos from the 1920s of big JW Christmas parties

    JW’s have a long history of shifting doctrine and failed end of the world predictions as well as rewriting the bible in their own image( a rewite by men with no understanding of the original languages of the bible).

    Of course they never tell new recruits about their appalling history of failed predictions, predictions that ruined many lives and caused a mass exodus from their cult. even the name jehovah is made up

    they aren’t even Trinitarian and deny the Cross (it was a pole)

    no credibility at all

    Many people collect vintage JV books because they can be used to show up their deceptions to converts, the JVs buy them to destroy them because embarrassment.

    Any Christian cult coming out of 19th USA is pretty much rubbish, and there are plenty of them

    eight times the jehovah’s witnesses were wrong about the end of the world

  150. zyconoclast

    ‘I grieve who I once was’: Student, 22, sobs as she recalls being held down and gang [email protected] by three Michigan State University basketball stars after they lost Final Four
    Bailey Kowalski, 22, spoke out on Wednesday for the first time since the 2015 attack
    She says she was [email protected] by three basketball players in an off-campus apartment after meeting them at a bar
    The sports journalism student reported it to a college counselor but says she was discouraged from pursuing the issue
    She is suing Michigan State University for breaching her Title IX rights
    Kowalski has never named her attackers and has never filed a police report
    She is still a student at MSU and will graduate next month

  151. Confused Old Misfit

    Lumberjack Island.

    Seen any of these then?

  152. notafan

    I’m not offended, Israel is just providing further evidence that certain denoms spend most of their time bagging Catholicism

    sad

  153. Mother Lode

    This would represent an additional $5400 for every Australian household on top of their usual tax commitments. As well, it would establish a Shorten government as the highest-taxing in our nation’s history.

    Well, the households that pay tax anyway. But even if you calculated that, one of the results of Labor’s policies would be to send more businesses to the wall and increase unemployment, so the burden on the people still paying taxes would escalate again.

    Scum.

  154. Infidel Tiger

    I much prefer the cultists to the prosperity preachers and the effete abomination Anglicanism has largely become.

  155. Helen

    Knuckle Dragger
    #2985857, posted on April 12, 2019 at 10:51 am

    Hmm.

    WWF just sent me an email asking whether I would be interested in adopting a koala

    Will it send you a picture it drew every Christmas?

  156. Infidel Tiger

    Gray Connolly

    @GrayConnolly
    Follow Follow @GrayConnolly
    More Gray Connolly Retweeted The Daily Telegraph

    Am a Catholic, I do not care what a rugby player says about my faith nor do I want him sacked for criticising my faith. Similarly as a war veteran, I defended Yassmin & the SBS soccer guy against sacking for offending veterans. We have to all accept people will disagree with us

    Very sound.

  157. Roger

    Christmas and Easter, that’s man-made,”

    Folau evidently wants a divine warrant for every aspect of Christian worship. That’s the religion of the old covenant, not the new covenant. The church calendar is a tool for organising the worship of Christians and teaching them, based on the life of Christ (Advent to Ascension/Pentecost) and the teachings of Christ (the Sundays after Pentecost). Does it have divine warrant? No. Does that means it’s offensive to God and idolatrous? No. The sacraments have divine warrant because they were instituted by Christ, but Christians are free to receive them in the devotional and pedagogical setting of the church year provided no divine commandment is broken. If everything and anything “man made” could not be used for worship, we’d have no lecterns, no pews, no hymns, even no church buildings dedicated to gathering for the Divine Service/Holy Communion/Mass.

    Folau’s disapproval of Christmas trees based on an old testament text is anachronistic at best, uninformed theology at worst. Anachronistic because the Christmas tree did not become a Christian symbol until late medieval times in northern Europe; it would hardly have been in the mind of Jeremiah, who was referring to the contemporary worship of idols fashioned from trees. Poor theology because the scriptures do not forbid the use of symbols or art as aids to worship, but the actual worship of them (literally bowing down before them, bodily symbolising submission). Even the temple in Jerusalem was adorned with images at God’s command. Failing to make this distinction is a return to the fanaticism of certain sects that arose during and after the Reformation whose members broke stained glass windows and demolished statues.

    Folau is very earnest, but it is to be hoped he tempers his earnestness with knowledge.

  158. Makka

    We have to all accept people will disagree with us

    Sure, but NOT while preaching from a taxpayer funded and payrolled communications and media platform.

  159. feelthebern

    As a fornicator, I do not care what Izzy says about me.

  160. C.L.

    the journalist said [Folau] spoke at Sunday ‘mass’

    The same people who think it’s, like, totes believable that an archbishop in procession after the busiest and biggest Mass of the sabbath ducks off midway down the nave (which nobody notices) to rape a couple of choir boys.

  161. feelthebern

    I will wait until I hear what Gerard Whateley tells me how to react to Izzy.

  162. Infidel Tiger

    Folau evidently wants a divine warrant for every aspect of Christian worship. That’s the religion of the old covenant, not the new covenant. The church calendar is a tool for organising the worship of Christians and teaching them, based on the life of Christ (Advent to Ascension/Pentecost) and the teachings of Christ (the Sundays after Pentecost).

    Amazing how many Pentecostal churches don’t do a Christmas service. They prefer to see Christmas as a family day.

    They can be quite smug about their supposed better understanding of Christianity.

    It’s almost as bad as Crossfit at times.

  163. Mater

    WWF just sent me an email asking whether I would be interested in adopting a koala

    If I wanted to support something that blocks traffic, doesn’t wash, hugs trees, scratches and bites, is prone to violence if moved, pisses anywhere and everywhere, lives on leaves and has a high probability of carrying chlamydia, I’d donate to the vegan activists.

  164. notafan

    Folau is very earnest, but it is to be hoped he tempers his earnestness with knowledge.

    Roger Israel is clearly being taught his theology

    Maybe he needs to find better teachers because the ones he has at the moment are the make it up as I go along types

  165. Hay Stockard

    I didn’t know that the wrestling supported koalas.do they have a championship?

  166. feelthebern

    Speaking of which, if you have an AFR sub, you can read a puff piece about Ms Milligan.
    I’m not going to link to the article.
    The columnist usually takes out someone interesting to have a chat over a feed.
    They post the bill at the end of the column.
    See below.

    The bill
    Fratelli Paradiso, Potts Point, Sydney

    Glass of Borgoletto Soave, $13
    3 glasses of Meyer Fonne Pinot Plan, $48
    Crudo di pesci, $26
    Steak tartare, $25
    Calamari, $33
    Salad, $12
    Long black, $4.50
    Macciato, $4
    Total, $165.50

    Fratelli Paradiso is an ok place for a decent plate of pasta.
    Seems like Ms Milligan ate for Australian when she was there.

  167. C.L.

    Graham Ashton had a boner for two things: Nicola Gobbo and breaking the law.
    Fairfax exclusive: Chief Commissioner Ashton said Lawyer X was a ‘glittering prize’

    Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton described gangland barrister turned police informer Nicola Gobbo as a “glittering prize” in a 2014 inquiry.

    Thousands of pages of documents were released by the Supreme Court on Friday morning about former barrister and supergrass Nicola Gobbo, who gave police information about some of the state’s most notorious criminals.

    In the raft of documents are parts of Mr Ashton’s evidence to the Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption Commission’s 2014 review of the force’s use of Ms Gobbo.

    Mr Ashton, then a deputy commissioner, told the IBAC inquiry that the force was under considerable pressure during the heart of the gangland war and Ms Gobbo’s information was vital.

    “[This] human source comes on board that could potentially solve a bunch of…murders of prevent others … and this glittering prize … sometimes diverts you from the necessary steps,” he told IBAC.

    The “necessary steps” Mr Ashton referred to was that Victoria Police did not seek legal advice during the most prolific and fraught period of her informing from 2005.

    “You might say now, yeah, absolutely you would do this or do that but if I’m trying to think why sensible steps like that weren’t taken, that’s what I’m sort of left with when I try and reconcile that,” he said, according to the IBAC review.

    Ignored the law and deliberately ignored legal advice to get a result for the mob.
    Mmm. Sounds familiar.

  168. Roger

    Amazing how many Pentecostal churches don’t do a Christmas service.

    It’s amazing how many Pentecostal churches don’t offer the Lord’s Supper regularly and when they do often only as an appendix to their main service.

    They’ve relegated a divine institution to the background and elevated something that the scriptures never command – speaking in tongues – to a sacrament.

  169. C.L.

    WWF just sent me an email asking whether I would be interested in adopting a koala

    If I wanted to support something that blocks traffic, doesn’t wash, hugs trees, scratches and bites, is prone to violence if moved, pisses anywhere and everywhere, lives on leaves and has a high probability of carrying chlamydia, I’d donate to the vegan activists.

    LQ.

  170. notafan

    “The problem with a lot of people today is they don’t read the word, they go to church on Sunday, listen to what the pastor says, and that’s it,” Folau said. “They don’t go back home to check for what the word of God says.”

    Folau said it was wrong to hold up Jesus’ mother Mary as an idol worthy of worship, as the Catholic Church does, and called on people to evaluate whether they’re making the mistake of idolising unnecessary things like money or material possessions, which they worship more than God.

    “What does the Catholic Church do? They create an image of Mary and Jesus and totally go against what God’s word is,” Folau said. “This is what I’m talking about, the difference between man’s doctrine and tradition verses God’s word.

    Not much personal insight either

  171. Infidel Tiger

    Things that would get me back to Church:

    Modern music banned.
    Casual dressed banned.
    Women with no makeup and sandals banned.
    Effete preachers banned.
    Prosperity preaching banned
    Church welcomers banned.
    Having to turn and shake hands or worse with the person next to you banned.
    Any Church named after an element or similar banned.
    Parishioners looking to win “best Christian on Parade” banned.

    And so on.

  172. Bushkid

    woolfe
    #2985859, posted on April 12, 2019 at 10:53 am
    Hey they have moved from Global warmening to Climate Change and now Extreme Events which covers everything thus hot? CO2, Cold? Co2, Dry? CO2, Wet? CO2. Get it?

    Out of date already, woolfe. It’s now “climate disruption”.

    Mind you, last year I did read “climate disadvantage”, would you believe!

    This lot truly are nuts.

  173. Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastle

    Thanks, he really is indefatigable, isn’t he?

    At some stage I will throw arithmetic and geometric progressions into the mix, and perhaps parabolic and sinusoidal curves, just for fun. I have long since given up trying to debate him, no real point as he is impervious to differing views.

    I once asked him for his policy propisals to solve CAGW, expecting some thought out ideas. He referred me to a recent issue of New Scientist! If you want to know why we are in such trouble, be aware that he used to be a senior research officer in the APS (almost certainly policy, rather than scientific, research, but he will not confirm that).

  174. notafan

    Btw Folau is AOG, same as Scott Morrison

    They are prosperity gospellers, earn’t they?

  175. feelthebern

    Having to turn and shake hands or worse with the person next to you banned.

    The worst, Jerry.
    The worst.

  176. feelthebern

    You don’t know where the punters have been & they want to shake your hand.
    They could have been ball scratching or nose picking seconds before.
    Filthy habit.

  177. Infidel Tiger

    They’ve relegated a divine institution to the background and elevated something that the scriptures never command – speaking in tongues – to a sacrament.

    Yes, have attended with extended family and found the services very confronting.

    As a lapsed Anglican I recognized almost nothing about it and the music was enough to make me question God’s existence.

  178. Overburdened

    Roger

    To again quote Epictetus

    Man is not affected by events but by the view he takes of them.

    This insight is the basis of CBT.

    On another issue, julian assange is a fuck up.

    This is not to say he is not intelligent or has no skills.

    It is wise to always give credit where it is due.

    He is a loose cannon and the people he has and potentially can damage is the result of the historical moment.

    If it looked like he was going to scorched earth President Trump, all the boosters would want him flayed for doing what he has done.

  179. feelthebern

    Bernie Sanders gets hand shaking right.

  180. notafan

    IT

    Sounds like the only thing that would work for you atm is Latin Mass at St Aloysius in Caulfield North

  181. Boambee John

    Proposaps, not propisals, tbough propissals would describe much of what the CAGW crowd put out.

  182. Gab

    In

    fidel Tiger
    #2985991, posted on April 12, 2019 at 12:59 pm
    Things that would get me back to Church:

    Modern music banned.
    Casual dressed banned.
    Women with no makeup and sandals banned.
    Effete preachers banned.
    Prosperity preaching banned
    Church welcomers banned.
    Having to turn and shake hands or worse with the person next to you banned.
    Any Church named after an element or similar banned.
    Parishioners looking to win “best Christian on Parade” banned

    Then this is what you’re looking for https://www.latin-mass-au.com

  183. Infidel Tiger

    Btw Folau is AOG, same as Scott Morrison

    They are prosperity gospellers, earn’t they?

    Folau certainly isn’t.

    Read his Instagram and he wants the prosperity preachers to burn in hell.

    I agree with him entirely.

  184. Overburdened

    CL

    I have been reliably informed that koala tastes like meaty eucalyptus.

  185. John Constantine

    “We came , We saw, He died”

    Their hilary gloats that her vengeance upon Assange is within her grasp.

    Bayonet up the jacksie time as Assange gets Arkancided.

    To encourage the others.

    Comrades.

  186. notafan

    Roger

    there are a small number of Catholics who think they have the gift of tongues

    never in a language that anyone can understand, of course

    I remember a local AOG offered classes in how to do it

    odd, very odd

  187. Infidel Tiger

    Then this is what you’re looking for https://www.latin-mass-au.com

    Churches who haven’t updated their web design since 1996… banned.

    What I’m actually looking for is an old style Anglican Church with a bit of fire and brimstone preaching, 3 Welsh hymns, everyone dressed in Sunday best and then tea and bikkies on the lawn followed by a roast lunch at home.

  188. Mark A

    Gab
    #2986003, posted on April 12, 2019 at 1:07 pm
    Then this is what you’re looking for https://www.latin-mass-au.com

    Amen

  189. feelthebern

    What I’m actually looking for is an old style Anglican Church with a bit of fire and brimstone preaching, 3 Welsh hymns, everyone dressed in Sunday best and then tea and bikkies on the lawn followed by a roast lunch at home.

    Said no-one ever.

  190. Fatty 5D* has gone quiet on Assange.

    It is unknown if Assange has any evidence which he could turn over that may implicate members of the Trump campaign or even Trump himself in potential crimes, but it can be assumed that Trump certainly would not be very excited about Assange speaking out about WikiLeaks’ role in Russia’s meddling campaign or the release of hacked DNC emails. Any more publicity of such would, at minimum, provide Democrats with more ammunition against Trump’s 2020 re-election campaign. At worst, Assange’s cooperation could result in additional evidence against Trump or members of his campaign, on various fronts.

    *Trump was deferred from the draft for service in Vietnam 5 times, and has an obvious weight problem.

  191. feelthebern

    *Trump was deferred from the draft for service in Vietnam 5 times, and has an obvious weight problem.

    & Corporal Taint was too dumb to get out of Vietnam.
    As I said upthread, Taint was/is/will always be a good follower.

  192. John Constantine

    RNE renu, the old renamed geodynamics, goes to shareholders to raise another 5 million dollars to stay in business.

    Having burned hundreds of millions chasing ruinable energy dreams.

    The turnbullites got ruinables profitably correct by focusing on the state subsidies and underwriting and dumping liabilities upon the state.

    RNE focused on actually producing electricity, not certificates, and ended up hundreds of millions down the hole.

    Comrades.

  193. feelthebern

    Amazing how the left loved wikileaks until they posted the DNC emails.

  194. Bushkid

    memory vault, I’ve contacted sinc, awaiting response.

  195. feelthebern

    If you think wikileaks should be pursued, obviously you think the Washington Post should be for publishing the pentagon papers.

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Trump was deferred from the draft for service in Vietnam 5 times

    And Numbers Bob had a perfectly legitimate alternative to being conscripted which, for whatever reason, he chose not to exercise.

  197. Roger

    Roger

    there are a small number of Catholics who think they have the gift of tongues

    never in a language that anyone can understand, of course

    In that case they should only do it in the privacy of their own home and never in church.

    That’s biblical and apostolic injunction that Charismatics routinely ignore, 1 Cor 14:27-28.

  198. feelthebern

    And Numbers Bob had a perfectly legitimate alternative to being conscripted which, for whatever reason, he chose not to exercise.

    Clearly lacked moral courage.
    Was easier to go along with the pack.
    A great follower.

  199. Percy Popinjay

    I defended Yassmin & the SBS soccer guy against sacking for offending veterans. We have to all accept people will disagree with us

    The difference being of course, that pair of slags were engaging in their vile abuse courtesy of my taxes.

  200. Stimpson J. Cat

    there are a small number of Catholics who think they have the gift of tongues

    Look, Christians who haven’t actually interacted with their Jesus or God except via reading a book or going to Church really shouldn’t throw stones.

    Imagine being too scared to admit publicly that God or Jesus communicates to you or through you in mysterious ways for fear of ridicule by fellow Christians or anyone in general?

    This is rank cowardice dressed up as private piety.

    The world is much wider and weirder than your narrow righteous view.

    Don’t be so sure you know everything with such certainty.

    Such arrogant presumption indeed.

  201. Percy Popinjay

    the left loved wikileaks until they posted the DNC emails

    Ah – I’d forgotten about that. A mysterious fatal event awaits Señor Assange after his arrival in the US.

  202. Buccaneer

    If Assange had evidence on Trump why would he withhold that when he wouldn’t withhold information inconvenient to his hosts at the Ecuadorian embassy to avoid arrest? Further, if Assange did have evidence on Trump and he’s keeping it for his own purposes, it’s really not likely we’re going to see it.

  203. Roger

    What I’m actually looking for is an old style Anglican Church with a bit of fire and brimstone preaching, 3 Welsh hymns, everyone dressed in Sunday best and then tea and bikkies on the lawn followed by a roast lunch at home.

    You might have to try Presbyterianism for that, I.T..

    Outside of the evangelical Sydney archdiocese and a couple of Anglo-Catholic hold outs, the only fire and brimstone the average Anglican clergyman (or woman!) is interested in relates to your carbon emissions.

  204. candy

    “Christmas and Easter, that’s man-made,” Folau tells worshippers, before attacking Christians who do not devoutly read the bible.

    I’m not exactly sure what he meant there but there’s a lot of people now who take full advantage of Christmas and Easter public holidays but don’t believe in God and say it’s all “sky fairies” or those who think Christianity is all irrelevant nowadays (but they must have those public holidays, presents and chocolates).

  205. Arky

    Lizzie continues:
    ..

    I can’t believe how beautiful the scenery is here. Unfortunately we have little time to truly appreciate it as we a fleeing Lumberjack Island in some disarray and just a little panic.
    The fairy is inconsolable.
    He really thought he had found his one and only. I don’t think the locals will soon forget that incident.
    Hairy is furious.
    “For fook’s sake Lizzie, why did you have to drag this des-custing perve along on ‘owwer ‘oliday’s”?
    “Oh Hairy, how could we leave him alone in Addis Ababa? Someone had to extinguish his clothes and take him to hospital to have his bones set”.
    “Yes, but why is it always us”?
    I knew Hairy would soon calm down and resume his normal gruff but lovable demeanour. I battered my eyelashes, opened the rental car’s glovebox and began applying the complementary maple syrup flavoured chapstick.
    “Lizzie, you are as mad as drum full of Glasgow eels. Your kind heart will be the death of both of us”.
    Back at the Montreal Hotel and Maple Syrup Baths we had time to reload and recuperate.
    Canadians are such friendly people: like Americans, but without the charisma, charm or hygiene.
    The lady at the desk handed me a brochure for the Mt Mounty Mounty festival.
    The fairy perked right up at the idea of five days of mingling with Canadas finest.

  206. Infidel Tiger

    You might have to try Presbyterianism for that, I.T..

    Outside of the evangelical Sydney archdiocese and a couple of Anglo-Catholic hold outs, the only fire and brimstone the average Anglican clergyman (or woman!) is interested in relates to your carbon emissions.

    Maybe I will have to start my own Church… which seems to be the reason Christianity is in so much trouble. Like the rest of society, without a cohesive and unified view on things it’s hard to hold the centre.

  207. Arky

    Have Lizzies neatly battered eyelashes and freshly chapsticked lips alleviated Hairy’s mood?
    Will the fairy fare better on Mt Mounty than he did on Lumberjack Island?
    Tune in later this hour to find out.

  208. DrBeauGan

    What is irking me at the moment, as a member of the Australian Conservatives, is that Cory Bernardi is making the same mistake as Labor, waffling without policy information. He relies on everyone comprehending his notion of ‘common sense’ without, in his new TV ad, even once saying what might constitute such sense on any key issue at all. As it stands, it is mere waffle, and we had quite enough of that under Turnbull, thank you Cory. In the NSW election I handed out the Australian Conservatives’ how-to-vote which had not one jot of information on it about what this Party stood for, apart from ‘common sense’ and ‘a better way’. For a small relatively unknown Party this is NOT good enough.

    I’ve declined to contribute to AC putting that ridiculous video to air. I explained that I liked their policies, but their PR is absolutely hopeless, and investing in them would be a waste of money.

  209. Mater

    Clearly lacked moral courage.
    Was easier to go along with the pack.
    A great follower.

    There were women who were sentenced to 25 years in the gulags and chose to work barefoot in the snow wearing nothing but their underwear rather than compromise their principles.

    Go along to get along; it’s the leftist way.

  210. Roger

    without a cohesive and unified view on things it’s hard to hold the centre.

    Esp. when those charged with guarding and passing on that cohesive and unified view are the principal wreckers of it.

  211. Confused Old Misfit

    Fatty 5D* has gone quiet on Assange.

    Trump is the God-Emporer!
    Kneel and tremble in His silence!

  212. Arky

    Ah screw it.
    I haven’t got time for this.

  213. Tom

    I will wait until I hear what Gerard Whateley tells me how to react to Izzy.

    You’ll be the only one, Bern. As the multi-million-dollar hire last year to be the prime-time star of Melbourne sports radio station SEN by its clueless owner, Craig Hutchison, Whateley has just posted the lowest-ever ratings for his 9am-to-midday weekday slot, which is now the station’s worst-performing segment.

    Not surprising since he’s an ex-ABC loudmouth knowall leftard whose first decision was to bring in Bawwie Cassidy for a weekly sermon about green-left POLITICS — on a SPORTS station.

    Sports fans loathe him. Hutchison is destroying the business because he knows nothing — zero, zilch — about programing or running a sports radio station.

    In the process, he’s poisoning the well for whoever wants to give it a try after SEN goes to the wall.

  214. feelthebern

    I was being sarcastic Tom.

  215. Mitch M.

    there are a small number of Catholics who think they have the gift of tongues

    never in a language that anyone can understand, of course

    They will become famous by declaring themselves to be philosophers.

  216. feelthebern

    Interesting fact.
    A lot of journos came out & defended the Shorten EV policy announcement this week & said the scare campaign was horse shit.
    No journos came out the Mediscare campaign at the last election as horse shit.

    I wonder why?

  217. Roger

    Steve Bannon declares war on China:

    Bannon…say[s] the world has changed: far from paling in comparison to the Soviet challenge, Xi Jinping’s China is a something Marxist Eurasia never was: an economic peer—even a successor state. Additionally…Xi and his team in Beijing are authoritarians with Alexandrian ambition, a marked departure from the Chinese technocrats who have reigned since leader Deng Xiaoping retired in 1989.

    RTWT

  218. rickw

    What I’m actually looking for is an old style Anglican Church with a bit of fire and brimstone preaching, 3 Welsh hymns, everyone dressed in Sunday best and then tea and bikkies on the lawn followed by a roast lunch at home.

    You might have to try Presbyterianism for that, I.T..

    The Presbyterian Church I go to is close, but still something of a gap on fire and brimstone, and generally to many sloppily dressed although the elderly members make a decent effort.

  219. dopey

    If Folau had played in the 80s/90s when rugby was more open he’d be ranked up there with Serge Blanco.

  220. OldOzzie

    Lizzie

    as we a fleeing Lumberjack Island in some disarray and just a little panic.
    The fairy is inconsolable.

    Did you see many of these Lumberjacks on the Island?

  221. feelthebern

    Bannon has got China very wrong.
    Niall Ferguson has got China very right.

  222. feelthebern

    Bandanna man versus the French.

  223. rickw

    Women with no makeup and sandals banned.

    What about the ones with half their junk on display?

  224. Stimpson J. Cat

    They will become famous by declaring themselves to be philosophers.

    Imagine believing that people can be possessed by real live actual demons, but finding it hard to believe in speaking in tongues because it seems “crazy”.

    Genius.

  225. zyconoclast

    Royal Australian Navy personnel will march at the Greenwell Point Anzac Day dawn march.

    The March in the Dark Brigade.
    Into the valley of potholes strode the six hundred.

    🤣

  226. rickw

    Ignored the law and deliberately ignored legal advice to get a result for the mob.

    These are the guys entrusted with 800 Assault Rifles?

    Safer handing them out as door prizes at you local rifle range than letting this lot have them.

  227. Arky

    Alright.
    I admit it. I know virtually nothing about Canada or Canadians.
    you will just have to wait for the real Lizzie’s travelogue.
    also, my Hairy’s accent shifts make me suspect he isn’t really Irish at all.

  228. Roger

    Bannon has got China very wrong.
    Niall Ferguson has got China very right.

    Let’s hope so.

  229. Stimpson J. Cat

    Royal Australian Navy personnel will march at the Greenwell Point Anzac Day dawn march.

    They should all be forced to dress as the Village People after this disgustingly gay debacle.

    Outrageous.

  230. rickw

    Just had a major wiring issue sorted.

    Does anyone have experience with tool setting on a Colchester 3000L / Fanuc OTA / Duplomatic Turret?

    I’m trying to shift the X axis zero from the axis of the turret to the axis of the tool holder so you drill with X at zero rather than doing this via the tool offset figures. No success, I have the manual but I’m missing something.

  231. Knuckle Dragger

    Although it’s entertaining watching Fitzsimons get coat hangered by a Frog, that entire video would have had the same impact in ten seconds than it did for three minutes.

  232. calli

    What’s wrong with church welcomers? The verger always used to give out the Prayer Books and Hymnals at the door back in the day.

    I agree about proper footwear. Although scruffy sandals are very Early Church, so authentic.

    Everyone except the young hate the modern music. I expect the Victorians raised on Purcell loathed Wesley. It has been ever thus.

  233. notafan

    Imagine believing that people can be possessed by real live actual demons, but finding it hard to believe in speaking in tongues because it seems “crazy”.

    Who believes that people claiming to speak in tongues are crazy?

    Roger is quite right, sometimes bible passages are easy enough for a ploughboy to understand

    If you are speaking a language that no-one understands then what good are you doing for your neighbour

    When the Apostles ‘spoke in tongues’ everyone understood them in their own language.

  234. Confused Old Misfit

    @Arky
    All you have to know is:
    Your a Lumberjack & you’re OK!

  235. DrBeauGan

    I reckon anyone who takes any religion seriously is a whacko, and that certainly includes Izzy F. But I respect anyone who sticks up for his beliefs, whether I share them or not. And telling sodomites (and atheists) they are doomed to Hell is something he has a right to say. I don’t mind him saying it, why should the sodomites?

    If it’s a matter of being inclusive, I’d prefer to include Christians to sodomites, thanks very much.

  236. stackja

    C.L. – Vic police and Lawyer X influenced a later case? Will GP be the cause of more problems for Dan?

  237. Des Deskperson

    “‘I defended Yassmin & the SBS soccer guy against sacking for offending veterans. We have to all accept people will disagree with us”‘

    The difference being of course, that pair of slags were engaging in their vile abuse courtesy of my taxes.’

    Both Yassy and McIntyre – the SBS guy – made their comments in their own time using their own resources.

    Yassy wasn’t sacked. Mcintyre was sacked because he breached the SBS Social Media guidelines – in particular, tweeting as an ‘SBS reporter’ without making it clear that the views were his own.

  238. Arky

    Did a Google search Rick:

    X workshift such that a drill or boring bar holder is concentric with center of rotation of spindle: workshift/MX0/ofset measur/input.

    ..
    We had a Fanuc CNC back in the 80s.
    But I was an operator, not a setter.

  239. Leigh Lowe

    What I’m actually looking for is an old style Anglican Church with a bit of fire and brimstone preaching, 3 Welsh hymns, everyone dressed in Sunday best and then tea and bikkies on the lawn followed by a roast lunch at home.

    Are you free Fridays?
    I think I might have just the thing.
    No Welsh hymns and the roast will be executed on the lawn during tea and bickies.
    Also, no sheilas.
    But ticks most boxes I think.

  240. Infidel Tiger

    Everyone except the young hate the modern music. I expect the Victorians raised on Purcell loathed Wesley. It has been ever thus.

    Any Church that allows a person with a guitar to set foot in it must be burnt to the ground.

  241. Stimpson J. Cat

    I reckon anyone who takes any religion seriously is a whacko, and that certainly includes Izzy F.

    I just get annoyed by Wackos who criticize other Wackos and are unable to realize that they are just as Wacko as the Wackos they are criticizing.

    I am fighting for Wacko Self Awareness.

    It is not racist for me to do this of course as I am an Official Wacko.

  242. And Numbers Bob had a perfectly legitimate alternative to being conscripted which, for whatever reason, he chose not to exercise.

    Given that I wasn’t gifted with a crystal ball that would have warned me that my birthdate was going to come out in the draw, the decisions that I made as a nineteen year old prior to the ballot and after registering, were entirely rational (given the odds), and I regret none of them.

    The “whatever reason” were the odds against –
    1. Being balloted in. (Odds were 1 in 12).
    2. Passing the medical (I’d had polio as an infant).
    3. Getting a combatant posting (I applied for education – got infantry).
    4. Getting posted to a battalion warned for service in Vietnam. (I applied for a unit which had just returned).
    All those ducks lined up – statistically unlikely.
    During the term of National Service 804,286 men were eligible.
    62,342 were called up.
    15,381 were posted to Viet Nam.
    About one third of those served in Infantry.
    For eligible 19 year-olds, The odds were 2 in 100.
    I made the same decision as the overwhelming majority of nineteen year-olds – not to join the CMF on the off chance.

    Once in the army I used every available option to avoid being deployed to Vietnam in an operational posting, but was unsuccessful at each of the remaining two stages (Corps allocation and unit allocation).

    Tell me, what decision would you have made at the time?

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