Open Forum: April 13, 2019

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  1. JC

    What’s the bet there’s going to be a drink fueled hysteria fit and then a big absence? My book is quoting evens. It always starts with music vids as it somehow sets the mood.

  2. feelthebern

    If Trump follows through with this idea of bussing illegal immigrants/asylum seekers/undocumented workers to “Sanctuary Cities”, it will be the greatest piece of politics since Keating stood up in parliament & told Hewson the ALP would not vote against the GST if the LNP won the election.

  3. Top Ender

    Lennon was an effeminate mummy’s boy.

    And Imagine is one of the wettest songs ever composed.

  4. Zatara

    Was just looking at video of the greenies who invaded the pig farm and chained themselves into the pig runs. Two words came to mind.

    Superglue and keyholes.

    Enjoy your stay greenies.

  5. feelthebern

    Just catching up on Tucker.
    Simply the best opening bit in years.

  6. feelthebern

    FMD this Tucker is the best.

  7. johanna

    Here’s one many Cats will relate to, Breakdown
    by Tom Petty.

    Southern blues/sleaze/whatever.

  8. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Did 180Bs have tape decks as standard? Aftermarket, I reckon, of a brand long-gone.

  9. Chris

    Was just looking at video of the greenies who invaded the pig farm and chained themselves into the pig runs. Two words came to mind.

    Superglue and keyholes.

    Enjoy your stay greenies.

    You have to remove the teeth so the piggies don’t get stomach-aches.

  10. JC

    Bern

    Tucker is somewhat correct about this, in terms of comparing Assange to the release of the Pentagon papers, but Assange was still a dick for publishing information that led to the death of a few thousand people in Kenya ( I think) and exposing names who helped the US in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

    Assange argued he wanted total government transparency. Good enough, but then we have never voted for such a system.

  11. bespoke

    cohenite
    #2986690, posted on April 13, 2019 at 11:23 am
    The problem for the right is if you maintain decorum, decency, manners, rule of law, all the values of Western democracy you lose; if you adopt the methods and behaviour of the left you may win for they are cowards but will you have destroyed what you fighting to protect.

    Yep, plenty of examples of the dark place it sends people when you cross that line.

  12. stackja

    Comedian didn’t leave the room.

  13. Makka

    C.L.
    #2986684, posted on April 13, 2019 at 11:16 am

    Thanks CL. Hopefully jupes will view this and drop the dummy spit over Assange.

  14. feelthebern

    JC, I didn’t know about Kenya, but everything I’ve read about wikileaks & Afghanistan showed that no-one got topper because of it.
    You can’t blame head loppers, lopping heads on wikileaks.
    Just like you can’t blame the doughnuts for monty eating them.

  15. notafan

    Get wifey to do it for you JC

    a couple of my kids have so I know it is very simple

    Still lots of Italians in Nice, was your mother’s family Nizzardo?

  16. johanna

    The other things worth watching on Fox are The Five and Greg Gutfeld’s weekly show. I usually hate panel shows but these ones are exceptional.

    Gutfeld is amazing – he does The Five Monday to Friday, does an hour long weekend show, writes books and does tours. And, he’s funny.

    I’m glad I’m not married to him, though.

  17. Here you all are!

    rickw:

    Lady doing fine sheet metalwork on a Lancaster:

    Why aren’t these sheets shaped in a block press?
    This looks like something that could really be sped up, considering the 6,000 + that were produced.

  18. C.L.

    Get a load of this. For God’s sake.

    Earth to Julie: you’re not 21 anymore.

  19. Leigh Lowe

    Nelson Kidd-Players

    #2986729, posted on April 13, 2019 at 12:03 pm

    Did 180Bs have tape decks as standard? Aftermarket, I reckon, of a brand long-gone.

    Correct.
    It didn’t have enough grunt to run a tape deck and a demister fan simultaneously.

  20. Des Deskperson

    ‘Fitzsimons QC has delivered the opinion that Folau won’t have much chance at law of making an unfair dismissal claim. ‘

    Did Atticus Fitz actually use the term ‘unfair dismissal’?

  21. Zatara

    feelthebern

    How would you feel if a bunch of Cat posters had their real names and posts exposed to the world? A massive dox.

    Because that’s what happened to thousands of good people mentioned even offhand in the classified documents that were leaked. Many were even more deeply exposed as they did intel estimates and analysis in bad guy country that were leaked. Or plans for particular infrastructure projects and areas. I’d suggest one or two might even be posters here.

    And God help any named sources in their reports. Because they are very likely dead now.

    Yeah, it was cool when wikileaks exposed the Dems, but he wasn’t doing it to make the world a better place. He did it to trash the reputation of the US just a bit more.

  22. JC

    Still lots of Italians in Nice, was your mother’s family Nizzardo?

    Yea, they were.

    That’s our next destination in 2020. We’re spending time in that area next year. I’d love to spend my after life on the shoreline from Nice all the way to Naples. Eternity sounds good if you’re allowed to choose. 🙂

  23. Infidel Tiger

    Get a load of this. For God’s sake.

    In the Oz

    WTF happened to Ken Doll’s neck?

  24. Knuckle Dragger

    This is actually something I’ve had repeated arguments about over time.

    I do not rate The Beatles. They weren’t groundbreaking, their music wasn’t especially complex (something you’d expect from a high school music student doing an assignment), very basic beats/tunes etc although I will concede their marketing was very well done.

    They were the Take That! with Lennon impersonating Robbie Williams of the late 60s.

    For his part, Lennon must have been Merkel’s girlhood fantasy boy:

    ‘Imagine there’s no countries,
    It isn’t hard to do…’

  25. JC

    Imagine there’s no countries,
    It isn’t hard to do…’

    Yea, just one. Run by the UN. Imagine!

  26. Infidel Tiger

    And God help any named sources in their reports. Because they are very likely dead now.

    Yeah, it was cool when wikileaks exposed the Dems, but he wasn’t doing it to make the world a better place. He did it to trash the reputation of the US just a bit more.

    Exactly.

    Assange is a nihilist and an anarchist. He’s also a shot smeared weirdo who bangs teenage fantasy girls.

    Strange world.

  27. Knuckle Dragger

    NKP,

    You needed the raw power and torque of the 200B to play a tape that didn’t sound as if it was sung in slow motion.

  28. notafan

    I love it too JC catching the train along that coast is the best.

    Bishop and her paramour remind me of a couple in their seventies we saw smooching on the train at Montsarrat

    Mutton dressed as lamb ans my grandmother used to say

    Far too sexy for their hats

  29. JC

    He did it to trash the reputation of the US just a bit more.

    Maybe, but that’s not illegal – especially if the WaPo and NYTimes can do it.

    This is the curve ball the Left never sees coming. They were orgasmic when the Pentagon papers came out. But when it fucks the D’rats… well not so much.

  30. feelthebern

    Doxing deep state actors, zero problem with that.
    Doxing posters at an anonymous blog, big problem with that.
    Hopefully you are intelligent enough to see the difference.

  31. Knuckle Dragger

    Lennon the pinko commie ladyboy:

    “Imagine no possessions,
    It’s easy if you try…..’

    …….

    ‘You may say that I’m a dreamer’

    As well we may, Mr Lennon. Chapman did us all a favour.

  32. Zatara

    Maybe, but that’s not illegal

    It is if you helped a transvestite to crack a password to a US military classified system.

    Which is what he is charged with as compared to releasing the info.

  33. feelthebern

    If wikileaks killed informants, wouldn’t there have been real reporting of it.
    As opposed to nebulous statements.

  34. Zatara

    Doxing deep state actors, zero problem with that.
    Hopefully you are intelligent enough to see the difference.

    Fuck off with the deep state bullshit.

    I was doxed in that release.

  35. feelthebern

    It is if you helped a transvestite to crack a password to a US military classified system.

    Of all these things wikileaks did, this has been proven to be incorrect.
    Follow Glenn Greenwald on twitter.
    He’s rebutted pretty much all the allegations.

  36. feelthebern

    Bullshit Zatara.
    Corporal Taint level of bullshitery.

  37. Zatara

    Of all these things wikileaks did, this has been proven to be incorrect.

    Great. He’ll have his day in court forcing the state to prove it.

  38. feelthebern

    Great race coming up right now.
    Country horses.
    A few country jockeys, but mainly big city jockeys on country horses at a big city track.
    Wild times.

  39. JC

    “Imagine no possessions,

    He lived here, when he wrote that.

    Monthly maintenance, which Australians know as body corporate fees, can run at 50K a month for a decent sized pad.

    Love the pros and cons living there.

    Pros

    Legendary address
    Doorman
    Impressive wainscoting
    Many fireplaces
    Four separate lobbies at corners of courtyard
    Large center courtyard with fountain
    Impressive entrance
    Prestigious resident roster
    Sensational Central Park views
    Very high ceilings
    Very spacious apartments
    Close to Subway

    Cons

    Several blocks from cross-town buses
    Not close to supermarket

    Busy intersection
    Tourist attraction for John Lennon fans

    Yea, you’re going to live there and you’re concerned about cross town buses and the maids don’t have a supermarket within walking distance.

  40. feelthebern

    Great. He’ll have his day in court forcing the state to prove it.

    Take a lesson in civics Zatara.

  41. JC

    I was doxed in that release.

    Really? Dude!

  42. johanna

    FMD, TheirABC just put up a piece about how the person who libelled Geoffrey Rush is kinda a victim too.

    He should sue them to the back teeth.

  43. Bruce of Newcastle

    Comedian didn’t leave the room.

    Stand up comedy is pretty brutal.
    British comedian Ian Cognito, 60, dies onstage during stand-up act
    Still, what a way to go out, doing what he obviously loved doing.

  44. Steve trickler

    THG in fine form, once again.

    Edward Heimberger?

    Great story telling about the horror of war…..with a twist.



  45. Makka

    It is if you helped a transvestite to crack a password to a US military classified system.

    Adm Rogers blew the whistle on NSA database abuse. Abuse that the Dems systematically orchestrated during the Obama years through their tentacles reaching into the intel community. Rogers is a traitor as well? I don’t think you get what’s going on here. You seem to discount the many thousands of lives ruined and lost , nations destroyed due to the behind the curtain betrayals orchestrated by elites over decades and now express outrage because Assange exposes them? Give me a fkn break.

    I couldn’t care less about Assange’s motives. What he did needed to happen. Yes it was messy and dirty but it certainly was necessary.

  46. calli

    Was just looking at video of the greenies who invaded the pig farm and chained themselves into the pig runs.

    They do know that piggliewigglies aren’t strict vegans, don’t they?

    Bacon-flavoured 🍿 time.

  47. min

    Unlike most Cats , the majority of voters will not be, in the short term, effected by Shorten’s tax cuts . Down the track when rents go up or house prices fall is when they will hit . Arguing about billions of dollars of taxes will go straight over the heads of the average voter who do not think rationally or understand how the economy works so no votes won there by the LNP. However we know the SJ W work on feelings not on facts and when the energy bills come in voters will react with a feeling not a rational thought . When it dawns on them that they won’t be able to afford their beloved cars thus more feelings .
    Honing in and attacking on these issues will help because them out there do not, for example ,see the connection between renewables and costs yet . Moreover they won’t give a damn if we lose tax deductions for our accountants’ fees , not an issue for them .
    So Scomo stop p### ing about with budget promises and hit them where it will hurt.
    BT W , after years of listening to people as a psychologist , generally they operate off faulty beliefs, that is opinions not facts and feelings .

  48. Zatara

    Adm Rogers blew the whistle on NSA database abuse.

    And this has nothing whatsoever to do with NSA database abuse. It has to do with a huge trove of classified military documents being stolen and released.

  49. feelthebern

    I couldn’t care less about Assange’s motives. What he did needed to happen. Yes it was messy and dirty but it certainly was necessary.

    & long may it continue.

  50. notafan

    Close to Subway

    Jussie Smollett should move in

    Save a lot of hassle when he needs a 2am sandwich

  51. feelthebern

    I’ve read heaps of wikileaks documents on Ukraine Afghanistan Pakistan.
    More people should.

  52. JC

    Nice editorial in the WSJ. The glass is sometimes half full.

    You no doubt have read, several thousand times, that we live in depressing times with diminished prospects thanks to mankind’s many depredations against earth and science. Well, cheer up. Many talented human beings this week demonstrated again that we are creative and curious creatures who dare to dream and discover. Behold the excavation of fossils belonging to a previously unknown human species and the first photograph of a black hole.

    Scientists on Wednesday reported they had unearthed fossilized teeth and bones of a cousin to the homo sapiens who lived 50,000 or so years ago. The fossils differ from a half dozen or so other known hominin species that existed around the same time and were eventually transcended by our own. Humans are essentially descendants of various hominins who mated and mingled their DNA.

    Archaeologists from the Philippines were surprised to find the ossified remains in the Callao Cave on the Philippine island of Luzon, and the evidence indicates the species was isolated from other hominins on mainland Asia. It remains unknown how they got there or evolved, though their small jaws and bone structure indicate a diminutive stature capable of climbing trees.

    It’s also unclear why these ancient island inhabitants were extinguished and how homo sapiens came to dominate the planet. What killer app buried in our DNA made us better adapted?

    Then there are the even bigger mysteries of the universe, which scientists were able to shed more light on this week by capturing an image of a black hole at the center of a galaxy some 55 million light years away. The black hole is 6.5 billion times as massive as the sun, though nobody knows how it became so huge.

    The picture of an orange-rimmed ring was snapped by synchronized radio telescopes around the world and then processed by supercomputers. The project, coordinated by 200 researchers over a decade, confirms Albert Einstein’s theory of relativity, illuminates abstruse mathematical theorems and brings physics down to earth for the layman.

    This week’s big-bang breakthroughs follow the discovery last month of a new fossil site in North Dakota that marked the extinction of dinosaurs 66 millions years ago after a giant asteroid rammed into the ocean off the coast of modern-day Mexico. The excavation site reveals in detail what happened to earth’s creatures when the apocalyptic rock hit.

    It’s worth pointing out that these discoveries build on ideas and innovations developed over centuries from Italian astronomer Galileo Galilei to the 19th century geneticist Gregor Mendel to the astrophysics discoveries of the 20th century. They are also another reminder of how much we still don’t know about ourselves and the universe as well as a testament to humanity’s inherent fascination with the world beyond.

  53. rickw

    Why aren’t these sheets shaped in a block press?
    This looks like something that could really be sped up, considering the 6,000 + that were produced.

    My guess is because all the tooling went in the bin. So if you’re repairing one or two the fastest way is by hand. Probably much more nicely done than original production to. They were as rough as guts.

  54. notafan

    It is my greatest wish that when I die

    Famous people should share their thoughts on Twitter

  55. Makka

    And this has nothing whatsoever to do with NSA database abuse.

    I didn’t say it did. I was comparing the whistleblowing aspects. The military and the CIA were together up to their eyeballs in deceiving the punters who pay for them. Ok so you say you were doxed. To what effect in reality, who knows? Perhaps it’s a business risk in any case? Risk v reward? Assange is no hero for sure but he certainly is an effective change agent which as the last several years has shown was desperately needed.

  56. Makka

    And this has nothing whatsoever to do with NSA database abuse.

    I didn’t say it did. I was comparing the whistleblowing aspects. The military and the CIA were together up to their eyeba lls in deceiving the punters who pay for them. Ok so you say you were doxed. To what effect in reality, who knows? Perhaps it’s a business risk in any case? Risk v reward? Assange is no hero for sure but he certainly is an effective change agent which as the last several years has shown was desperately needed.

  57. rafiki redux

    The BuzzFeed site has a summary of Wigney’s reasoning in the Rush case. It states that in Wigney’s view, the most “compelling reason” to doubt Norvill’s credibility was that her account was not corroborated. As a bald proposition, that cannot be correct. Lack of corroberation may make it difficult to act on the evidence, but it cannot justify saying that the truth-telling reliability of the wiitness is adversely affected.

    I am in a minority on this blog here, but I find this a troubling case. As I earlier predicted, Norvill’s generation are gathering around her. Will other stories now emerge?

  58. calli

    Assange is no hero for sure but he certainly is an effective change agent which as the last several years has shown was desperately needed.

    Gotta watch those “change agents”. There was one free ranging over in Christchurch a month ago.

    That hasn’t ended well either.

  59. rickw

    Great story telling about the horror of war…..with a twist.

    The locals are still very superstitious about the beaches where those landings took place because of the number of men killed on them.

    Incidentally the Japanese turreted gun emplacements on the Island frequently contain repurposed British field artillary from WWI. The ones I looked at were made by Armstrong and Whitworth.

  60. notafan

    I am in a minority on this blog here, but I find this a troubling case. As I earlier predicted, Norvill’s generation are gathering around her. Will other stories now emerge?

    They have had plenty of time to do so, have they not?

    not to mention that not only was her version not corroborated, it was contradicted by several other witnesses including Neil Armfield, even the Guardian article mentioned that.

    That usually matters

  61. JC

    Gotta watch those “change agents”.

    I love that glossy term. It’s, it’s so with it.

  62. rickw

    The Second Amendment apparently also supports crew served:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2eV8N0bUzA0

  63. vlad

    I have read that John and Yoko bought a second suite in the Dakota building just for their clothes.

    John did his best songwriting when he was unhappy with women; once he’d (re-)married happily his work went downhill fast There was also the fact that he didn’t have McCartney any more as a collaborator. Oh, and the serious drug use. I mean, heroin? Really? Who does that.

  64. vlad

    Des Deskperson
    #2986749, posted on April 13, 2019 at 12:21 pm
    ‘Fitzsimons QC has delivered the opinion that Folau won’t have much chance at law of making an unfair dismissal claim. ‘

    Did Atticus Fitz actually use the term ‘unfair dismissal’?

    No. Here’s the money quote:

    “If he finds every bridge to everywhere burned after all, Folau may try to legally fight it out. I don’t like his chances, if so, but we’ll see.”

    (Note the schoolboy punctuation.)
    source:
    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/folau-and-mundine-show-words-can-have-consequences-20190412-p51dr3.html

  65. Zatara

    The Second Amendment apparently also supports crew served:

    But did they have a concealed carry permit?

  66. rafiki redux

    Notafan – you don’t address my point, which is that it is not logical to say that absence of corroboration leads inexorably to the conclusion that the witness lacks truth-telling capacity (which is a less harsh judgement than that they are lying). I don’t know how important this reasoning is to his ultimate conclusion. Sure, this was based on his acceptance of the evidence of Armfield, Nevin et al, and his rejection of Winter’s evidence. But these are different and conventional matters.

    Assuming that there are other stories, (noting that I did not assert that there were), I suspect that the reasoning of the younger generation might be their fear of repercussions. Norvill did not want her story made public, and her explanations in court for post-event friendly relations with Rush are believable.

  67. Frank

    If smart phones maintain their current form; i predict that human thumbs will become longer and skinnier.

    Second generation violinists tend towards recessive chins, according to the evolutionary scientists anyway.

  68. Infidel Tiger

    Randwick looks a treat.

  69. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Perhaps not the 200B LPG version though, LL.

  70. notafan

    Lack of corroboration wasn’t the only criticism by Wigneyof Norvill’s testimony. there were remarks about exaggeration etc

    Also too scared to speak up is a pretty weak argument, in the current climate other stories would have made an appearance.

    Her explanations might be believable to you.

    Rush is not a god emperor.

    In any case the position taken here has never been a blanket defense of Rush, about whom personally I have zero cares but the attitude that all accusers must be believed, no matter what emerges to the contrary.

  71. Bill Thompson

    I have serious concerns that Bill Shorten may be Australia’s next PM & I suspect I’m not alone in that regard. This morning I noted that the last date to nominate as a candidate for the 2019 federal election is 23 April & I would like to propose starting a grass-roots campaign to encourage a woman named Kathy Sherriff to nominate as an independent, or other party of her choice, for the seat of Maribynong. I’m prepared to make a financial contribution and/or devote my time & effort to see if this can be arranged.

    Can I begin by asking if there are any other readers who would support this proposal?

  72. notafan

    He said her “evidence was inconsistent with statements she gave to journalists about what it was like working with Mr Rush, including that she loved his ebullience, and loved working with him”.

    Justice Wigney said her evidence demonstrated that she was “prone to exaggeration and embellishment”.

    from news.com.au

  73. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Feature additions for a Cat app:

    * eye tracking, so that as your eyes move down the page, it starts to smoothly scroll.

    * if the eye tracking detects a rolling of the eyes, instantly jump to the next post.

  74. Nick

    Justice Wigney said her evidence demonstrated that she was “prone to exaggeration and embellishment”.

    From an actress too! Lol.

  75. Australian Federal Election
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    Currently at $5.00 win.

    The interesting part is the exact seats, i.e. 76-80, etc.

  76. cohenite

    Bill Thompson

    #2986809, posted on April 13, 2019 at 1:23 pm

    I have serious concerns that Bill Shorten may be Australia’s next PM & I suspect I’m not alone in that regard. This morning I noted that the last date to nominate as a candidate for the 2019 federal election is 23 April & I would like to propose starting a grass-roots campaign to encourage a woman named Kathy Sherriff to nominate as an independent, or other party of her choice, for the seat of Maribynong. I’m prepared to make a financial contribution and/or devote my time & effort to see if this can be arranged.

    Can I begin by asking if there are any other readers who would support this proposal?

    What is Kathy’s attitude mate; she’s been through a lot. Fraser Anning’s party may be interested. I certainly am.

  77. RobK

    Perhaps not the 200B LPG version though, LL.
    I think it was a 180B I once saw hoping away at the traffic lights. Its bounces were in sync with the wind screen wipers.

  78. Makka

    G20 to Trump: ‘All Our Economies Are Belong To You’…

    From the comments;

    The U.S. has kept the world economy afloat by ratifying egregious trade agreements that export our national wealth. Now the worm has turned, and it is a glorious sight to behold. The scales have fallen from their eyes, and everybody is coming to the disconcerting realization that Uncle Sam is no longer their sugar daddy, but they are still our bitches.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/04/12/g20-to-trump-all-our-economies-are-belong-to-you/

  79. johanna

    Do not dis the 180B, the touring car equivalent of the indestructible HiLux,

  80. Chris

    Do not dis the 180B, the touring car equivalent of the indestructible HiLux,

    1600 rules
    Stanza tries
    180B was for uni students on full TEAS because their Dads had good accountants.

  81. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Those V8 120Ys were the hardest to pick. If you missed noticing the tailpipe with the slightly bigger bore, you’d only find out once you were eating it’s dust.

  82. JC

    It’s in the Oz about Menzies. My question is half related.

    How to you nearly die or die from grief? What are the physical systems of death by grief?

    Robert Menzies maintained that he chose a political career because he saw it as a “public duty” and “owed a great deal” to Australia because of the educational opportunities that had been afforded to him. Politics was also in the blood, as his father and uncles had been elected to parliament.

    But there was a more important, and deeply personal, reason that Menzies revealed only in the twilight of his life in an interview that has not been previously publishe­d: he wanted to erase the perceived stain on his name for not enlisting in the First World War.

    Menzies’s older brothers, Les and Frank, joined the Australian Imperial Force and were sent abroad. His sister, Belle, had eloped with a soldier and was banishe­d from the family. His father­, James, was so stricken with grief that he nearly died. So Menzies stayed home to complete his studies and look after the family. He was branded a coward for life.
    “Having been the one in the family not able as I believed to go to war, (I) had a strong feeling that I ought to do some public service of some kind and that was the domin­ating reason why I went into parliament,” Menzies said. “This had a very searing effect on my mind … I felt all the time that I just had to do something to justify my existence and that is why … I decided that I ought to go into parliament.” He added: “I have been very vulnerable on this matter.”

    This interview is revealed for the first time in a new biography, Robert Menzies: The Art of Politics (Scribe), to be published on Tuesday. Menzies was interviewed by journ­alist Frances McNicoll in 1972 and 1973 for a biography that was never completed. The interviews have been sealed for almost 50 years.

    Menzies was deeply hurt by the attacks he faced and reconsidered his decision not to enlist. Frank was concerned about Robert remaini­ng at home and wrote to release him from his promise — but the letter never arrived.

    Not enlisting continued to affec­t Menzies profoundly. One of the reasons he spent four months abroad as prime minister during the Second World War, while his colleagues grew restless at home, was to show he was “not yellow”. He was chasing his demons. He wanted to “set an example” and not “run away from any danger”.

    Menzies had joined the Melbourn­e University Rifles as part of his compulsory military training duty, serving from 1915- 1919. He supported sending Australian troops abroad and backed conscription for overseas service.

    It was decided Menzies would remain “to look after the family”. He recalled that his sister’s elopement and excommunication from the family added to an already difficult­ decision about which sons should go to war, and had a dramatic impact on his father. “The effect on my father was such that, honestly, I was called in to say goodbye to him,” Menzies recalled. “The old man was in a bad state and really for some time it looked as if he might peg out at any moment.”

  83. JC

    Yes Trades Hall… International trade is a zero sum game. Thank God you’re here explaining it.

  84. JC

    The Australian embassy in Washington declined to comment. At the same function in ­Adelaide, Ms Bishop talked about how she and Marise Payne, when they were foreign minister and defence minister respectively, would draw stares and disbelief at international security summits.

    “People were quite surprised. They didn’t think that that’s what Australia would have … they thought we were a blokey culture­,” she said. Ms Bishop was foreign minister from 2013 to last year and was the first female deputy leader of the Liberal Party.

    Maybe, just maybe they were aghast at the sight of this.

  85. notafan

    JC

    my grandmother always said her older sister (a teenager at the time) died from grief over the death of their father in 1906, she died not long after her father.

    I suspect it was a general belief back in the day but there was probably an underlying illness, James Menzies made a remarkable recovery though, and lived until 1945.

  86. Stackja:

    Does Qantas attract a certain orientation clientele because of their CEO? If not, why the fuss about IF?

    I doubt it, but the noise being made is all about how we are nasty to pooftas and they deserve the dignity their affliction robs them of.
    In other words, “Look at moi! Look at moi! I do obscene things with others freckles! I am special!”
    I’m so over the Weird Brothers Three Ring Circus.

  87. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #2986756, posted on April 13, 2019 at 12:29 pm

    NKP,

    You needed the raw power and torque of the 200B to play a tape that didn’t sound as if it was sung in slow motion.

    And, if you owned a 120Y, you had no need for a tape deck.
    Nothing to sing about if you drove that heap of shit.
    Incidentally, “120Y” was an abbreviation. It’s full name was “120 … why?”

  88. JC

    The Australian embassy in Washington declined to comment. At the same function in ­Adelaide, Ms Bishop talked about how she and Marise Payne, when they were foreign minister and defence minister respectively, would draw stares and disbelief at international security summits.

    “People were quite surprised. They didn’t think that that’s what Australia would have … they thought we were a blokey culture­,” she said. Ms Bishop was foreign minister from 2013 to last year and was the first female deputy leader of the Liberal Part

  89. DrBeauGan

    They didn’t think that that’s what Australia would have … they thought we were a blokey culture­,

    That was a long time ago. Now we’re a poofy culture.

  90. jupes

    … how she and Marise Payne, when they were foreign minister and defence minister respectively, would draw stares and disbelief at international security summits.

    LOL

    Fat and Skinny went to the war …

  91. Leigh Lowe

    Confession.
    I once owned a 180B.
    A workmate owned a powder blue 200B.
    He announced one day … “The 200B is a man’s car. The 120Y is a girl’s car. Not sure where that leaves you.”
    .
    My masculinity was questioned by a bloke driving a powder blue 200B.
    Naturally, I flounced out, slamming the door behind me.
    Devastated.

  92. feelthebern

    “People were quite surprised. They didn’t think that that’s what Australia would have … they thought we were a blokey culture­,” she said. Ms Bishop was foreign minister from 2013 to last year and was the first female deputy leader of the Liberal Part

    Said no one ever.
    The shit just oozes from her pie hole.

  93. Leigh Lowe

    “People were quite surprised. They didn’t think that that’s what Australia would have … they thought we were a blokey culture­,” she said. Ms Bishop was foreign minister from 2013 to last year and was the first female deputy leader of the Liberal Part

    Yeah, nah.
    They were wondering how these two 40 watt dim bulbs could hold a ministerial portfolio in a sovereign democratic nation.

  94. Infidel Tiger

    James McDonald is the best rider in Australia by some margin.

    That was brilliant in the Oaks.

  95. notafan

    With Bibi back what happens with Palestine?

    A recent Washington Post article took the approach that a Netanyahu victory “clouds prospects” for the success of the Trump administration’s yet-to-revealed peace plan. Though the article refers to the Palestinians, it doesn’t mention the Palestinian Authority, PA President Mahmoud Abbas, or Hamas.

    One thing that many commentators haven’t noticed is that the positions of Netanyahu and his closest rival, former IDF chief of staff Benny Gantz, are probably not that far apart on issues of peace with the Palestinians. Gantz, in an interview with columnist Bret Stephens of The New York Times, did not speak of a two-state solution, but rather said that “eventually, Palestinians should have some kind of independency.”

    After the Israeli experiences of the past 25 years, such caution is prudent.

    For example, Israel pulled its troops out of southern Lebanon in 2000. In subsequent years, Hezbollah built an extensive terror infrastructure there and amassed a huge rocket arsenal. Hezbollah then triggered a war with Israel in 2006.

    In 2005, Israel disengaged from Gaza, removing all civilians and military personnel. In 2007, Hamas launched a coup against the PA and took effective control of Gaza. They used it to build a terror infrastructure and arsenal to threaten southern Israel.

    Anyone running to lead Israel has to ask themselves if the country could afford a repeat of what happened in Lebanon and Gaza happening in the West Bank. Gantz, a former IDF chief of staff, surely knows the risks involved to Israel in Palestinian statehood. Peace should not be a suicide pact.

    Palestinians Preventing Peace Regardless of Who Won the Israeli Election

  96. Infidel Tiger

    The only thing funnier than Payne and Bishop turning up to a high level discussion would be putting them on a see-saw.

  97. Nelson Kidd-Players

    I also had a 180B, although it was only about 15cm long. It was a coupé, at least. I think it is still in the cellar. The Model A is at my Mum’s in the form on an unfinished kit.

  98. jupes

    Can I begin by asking if there are any other readers who would support this proposal?

    Bill if you get rid of Dolly you will just end up with the junky’s wife.

  99. vlad

    What are the physical systems of death by grief?

    You stop eating.

  100. Infidel Tiger

    Someone just plonked $550k on Winx.

    If I had the coin I would too.

  101. Knuckle Dragger

    I had a fire truck red 200B when I was living in Townsville.

    It had bullet holes in it, courtesy of mates’ weekends out at Bluewater, which was mostly bush at the time. You couldn’t get into the passenger seat because the entire footrest area, as well as the seat itself was full of Maccas wrappers, empty smoke packets and stubbies. Daphne (Daphne Datsun) was never serviced, and just kept on going. The most mechanical work it ever needed was when I took the thermostat out because it kept overheating. No problems after that.

    Eventually though, and as a result no doubt of endless screaming revs and double-clutching into corners, one day Daphne’s transmission failed. My last act in her was punching it into neutral, and letting her glide to a stop on the side of Dalrymple Road.

    I got out, took her plates off and threw them into a nearby culvert and walked home. No authority ever asked me anything about her.

    Good times.

  102. Infidel Tiger

    What are the physical systems of death by grief?

    You literally will yourself to die.

    It’s so common I can barely believe it is being discussed.

  103. dover_beach

    Pitch perfect:

    “The most ominous of modern perversions is the shame of appearing naïve if we do not flirt with evil.”

    — Nicolás Gómez Dávila

    h/t: WrathofGnon

  104. Infidel Tiger

    Get to a telly and take alook at the scenes at Randwick.

    WOW! Even in the glory days it surely was never like this.

  105. woolfe

    Julie and Marise, the not funny Laurel and Hardy of politics.

  106. Infidel Tiger

    There are thousands on the street outside the Track!

  107. feelthebern

    All we need is that Peter Hoare chap & it will be complete.

  108. stackja

    IT – Allison road stand!

  109. Knuckle Dragger

    Just dropped the 14yo boyman off at his besties’ place for a couple of days. He’s been looking forward to it since September when he was last here.

    And no wonder he’s keen.

    Two 14 year olds.
    25 acres in Humpty Doo.
    Access to beer (see below).
    Access to firearms.
    Paddock bombs.
    Dirt bikes.
    Teenage chicks said to be on the property across the potholed dirt road.
    Four pigging dogs, one house dog.
    Partial if any adult supervision. The bestie’s father’s name is Oz. Of course. Who works half day weekends.

    If he doesn’t come back with stitches he administered himself I’m going to be very, very disappointed.

  110. Mak Siccar

    From the Oz. Comments generally positive.

    The difference a day makes
    Those who want to change the date of Australia Day — or abolish it altogether — are missing the point.

    By STAN GRANT

    From The Weekend Australian MagazineApril 13, 2019

    January 26, 2017: my father was to be awarded a ­special Australia Day honour in his hometown as a respected elder of his community. My father has lived a life at times at the coalface of bigotry and brutality; there have been beatings and dark nights of lockdown in a cell. He has been judged by the colour of his skin, by those who would not see the full content of his character. Yet he has remained a man proud of who he is, and unwavering in his belief and hope that Australia is better than its worst. In his later years he has helped to revive his language, Wiradjuri, teaching it not just to indigenous people but allowing all Australians to share in his heritage. Because, to my father, it is all our heritage. If you are on this land, this belongs to you. My father has been awarded an Order of Australia medal, and a doctorate from Charles Sturt University for writing the first full dictionary of Wiradjuri language.

    That evening of the Australia Day honour I spoke to my mother, and she told me how proud she was of how well my father was treated, and what an honour it was to celebrate on that day, when Australians celebrate all that we have made in this country. But my mother told me again of another Australia. As our conversation often does, it turned gently to her life as a young girl, living with her family, a black father and a white mother, on the outskirts of Coonabarabran in north-­western NSW. On this Australia Day she reminded me of how her family’s tin humpy was bulldozed to the ground, she told me of the constant presence and threat of welfare officers, of her brothers and sisters made wards of the state and separated from their family; she told me again of seeing her father led through the streets handcuffed and roped together with other Aboriginal men, arrested for simply drinking alcohol. This is her Australia. These are her memories, the memories of wounds. We talked about Australia Day, a day that had been one of pride. “It wouldn’t hurt them to move the date,” she said.

    Stan Grant Sr, centre, with his doctorate. Picture: Les Smith / Daily Advertiser

    Should we move the date? There are those whowould abolish Australia Day entirely. They reject the very idea of Australia. In 2017, I finally had to answer this question for myself. What did I believe? I was speaking to a group of university students, touching on issues of identity and belonging and how I had lived my life to free myself from the chains of history, to move beyond narrowly defined ideas of who or what I should be. One of the students asked me what I thought about Australia Day. It is a question I have ­wrestled with, torn between pride in my country and my family’s legacy of suffering. I could so easily have repeated that mantra that the date is ­offensive, a reminder of invasion and colonisation. There are times in my life when those words would have fallen easily from my lips. But I know now, we are asking ourselves the wrong question.

    Australia is more than a day, it is more than a date — whatever that date may be. Moving the date or abolishing Australia Day does not answer the question, who are we? I fear moving the date would only hand it to those who would reclaim it as a day of white pride, turning it into a bombastic day of division. There are also those indigenous people who cling to Nietzsche’s “politics of ­ressentiment”, whose identities are so wedded to grievance that to relinquish their anger would be to lose their sense of themselves; moving the date would not satisfy them.

    On this day am I meant to be at war with myself? No. On this day I am neither black nor white, I am its synthesis: I am an Australian. That is all I can be. I am a convict in irons on a ship called Providence, a young Irishman called John Grant banished forever from his land with no home other than the one he would make here. I am a young man named Frank Foster born not 100 years after the British boats dropped anchor, huddled in the boat shed at Circular Quay with those other survivors of the disease and violence that ravaged the First People of this land. I am John Grant and I am Frank Foster. I am the view from the ship and the view from the shore.

    This is my blessing and my curse; I am blessed to be born to a nation that cherishes freedom — the freedom to rail against the nation itself, to question, to protest. In our world today that is so rare. Ours is a nation that struggles with itself, with the worst we have been, and whose arc of history has delivered us to a point where we are among the most free, prosperous and cohesive nations on Earth. Yet, for all that, I am cursed to be born into the crosshairs of this nation’s past; to carry that burden and see it carved into the skin and the souls of so many of my family — some of them broken by this place and others so gloriously and utterly defiant. For me, there are the words of French philosopher Albert Camus: “Let those who want to, stand aside from the world. I no longer feel sorry for myself, for now I see myself being born.” There have been times when I have indeed felt sorry for myself; when the view from the shore was one of unceasing suffering and inevitable doom. No amount of what we would call success, of wealth or glory, could erase the pain that I have inherited. But I have a choice, to see myself as someone with a future, to believe that Australia holds a place for me too and that we can change it and that we have changed it.

    A nation is a narrative, it is a story, it is what weimagine, it is what we choose. For me, I choose the late historian Inga Clendinnen and the long ­overlooked moment of Australian history when the British fleet arrived and a people of Enlightenment met a people of Dreaming. They danced briefly on that shore, a story told by Inga in her book Dancing With Strangers. I return again to that image so beloved of Inga — Aboriginal people and the British, dancing hand-in-hand on the beach. It was painted by Lieutenant William ­Bradley, an officer on the First Fleet, who would leave many such images depicting the early days of contact between two such different peoples.

    Clendinnen’s is a romantic view: a dream of what could have been more than what was. Those people dancing with the white strangers would soon be ravaged by disease and violence. ­Clendinnen was accused of glossing over “the wrongs of colonisation”. Others have pointed out that the same painting reveals red-coated soldiers armed, their guns at the ready. But that is ­Australia; it is still those who meet with open hands and those who stare with clenched fists.

    I wonder now, when I write about this Australia, what others might think; how my words may so easily be hijacked by the culture warriors on all sides of politics. On the one hand there are those defenders of the empire who would brook no criticism of colonisation, who see only the benevolence of British settlement and the ­unquestionable glory of all that has been created here; on the other are those who see only invasion and misery, whose identity is tied to grievance. No doubt to them I would be a traitor, an “Uncle Tom”, a “coconut”. So be it. I am not them; I don’t stand apart from the world, I cannot condemn Australia without acknowledging too that I am an Australian: its failings are mine and to change it I must embrace it; embrace it all.

    Should we move Australia Day? Perhaps someday we will. Perhaps someday we will have settled our “unfinished business”; but then, nations are forever unfinished; we write our stories in the margins. For now, January 26 is all that we are. It is all that we are not. Australia lives in that tension; when we seek to neutralise that tension, we deny ourselves. Some have said we should commemorate January 25 and 26; we should mark the before and after. It is a poignant and poetic idea, but it marks an ending and a beginning and I don’t believe in that; we see what came before and what came after. I do not exist on January 25. What happened on that day when the boats came to stay, that’s what has made me. I live with it all.

    In Australia we are presented with a challenge to our nation, one that stems from history itself. The idea of indigenous recognition seeks ­restoration in an exercise of reconciliation. But ­recognition walks a national fault line: history, race. These are things that can divide, yet cannot be ignored. Recognition itself challenges us to make good on the past, yet live free of its chains — to remember in order to forget.

    Our Constitution — our founding document — must respect what came before: it must acknowledge the place of the First Peoples. Others have described it as our nation’s rule book. It is a rule book that still carries the illegitimacy and stain of race, so it surely needs amendment. This land’s First Peoples have felt the sting of exclusion and discrimination. It is the challenge of a nation to rise above its past. Can our Constitution meet the aspirations of those locked out at the nation’s birth? Will the First ­Peoples be given full voice to shape our destinies and complete our union with our fellow Australians?

    These things need not be incompatible. The First Peoples do not have special rights, but inherent rights. It diminishes no one to acknowledge and protect that unique status, in keeping with the spirit and limits of our constitutional democracy. In this way we ensure allegiance. In this way we narrow our differences and strengthen our bonds. In this way we are all set free.

    We need to write a new declaration: a ­Declaration of Country. It does not speak only to indigenous people, it does not speak to Britain or the homelands of those migrants who have made their way to these shores. It speaks first to this land, this place here before any human footprint, this place that is our home.

    A nation is not just a set of laws. A nation is above all a story, a never-ending story of us. It is the story of a land steeped in time, awaiting people from many other lands, who in time will call themselves Australians. It begins with the first footsteps taken tens of millennia ago, and continues in the newest-born child of this land. It will live on in those still to come. A Declaration of our Country must speak to us all. It should speak to our sense of place: our home. It should be the work of poets. It should stand alone, apart from the Constitution. Its words should be carved in monuments to fall from the lips of children not yet born. A ­Declaration of Country should speak to who we have been and allow for who we may become.

    I imagine another Australia Day, a day some time in our future when I rise at dawn and pause to remember that moment when the people of the first sunrise on this land met the people who came in the tall ships. I will fall silent for those whose lives were lost, as I do on Anzac Day and Remembrance Day. I will think of all of those who have put me here, their sacrifice, their struggles, their pain and their dreams. I will remember, but I will also put it aside — forget, if you like — for it is in forgetting that I can find peace. This future Australia Day will still likely be a day of protest, a day of sadness, and a day of joy and thanks. We are all of those things.

    On this day I will repeat to myself words I have written for my country:

    The first people touched this land as our ­continent was being formed.

    They came in boats when humanity had yet to cross an open sea.

    Here they formed a civilisation that continues to this day.

    Their birthright has never been ceded.

    Those people live still in their descendants.

    We enter into their heritage and respect their traditions.

    We honour too those who have come from other lands and carry with them their cultures and faiths.

    Though our bonds may strain, we seek to live together in harmony.

    Though we may disagree, we find no enemy among us.

    We cherish the foundations of our nation, and our rule of law and democracy.

    We abide by the will of the majority but defend the rights of the minority.

    We are all equal in dignity.

    Opportunity is for all.

    Worth should be measured not in privilege.

    By our efforts we prosper. In a land of plenty, we care for those without.

    From the first footsteps to the most recent arrival, this land is our home.

    Here, together, we form a new people bound not by the chains of history but committed to a future forged together.

    This is my Declaration of Country, my song of this country. For that is what lasts.

    Stan Grant is Professor of Global Affairs at Griffith University and international affairs analyst at the ABC. Edited extract from Australia Day by Stan Grant (HarperCollins, $34.99), out on April 15. Stan is at ­Sydney Writers’ Festival on May.

  111. Mak Siccar

    My post of the entire article got eaten by the Spaminator.

    The difference a day makes
    Those who want to change the date of Australia Day — or abolish it altogether — are missing the point.

    By STAN GRANT

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/should-we-move-australia-day-thats-the-wrong-question/news-story/f28789ce0dd1f71c5597d41fdea2ec13

  112. Infidel Tiger

    So Sydney!

    40,000 coke fuelled punters singing Simply The Best!

  113. EvilElvis

    … they thought we were a blokey culture

    And now they all think we’re pasty, funny talking cucks. Ripe for the takeover!

  114. Des Deskperson

    “No. Here’s the money quote:

    “If he finds every bridge to everywhere burned after all, Folau may try to legally fight it out. I don’t like his chances, if so, but we’ll see.””

    Thanks, vlad.

    I was afraid – or maybe hoping – that Fitz was chancing his arm as an industrial lawyer. In fact it’s just a sub-cerebral evidence-free throwaway opinion, badly expressed – note the split infinitive.

  115. Cassie of Sydney

    “Will other stories now emerge?”

    What stories? Oh…of a man calling a woman delicious or scrumptious or, as claimed by actress Yael Stone, that Rush danced naked in front of her. Stone made these allegations in December 2018…she alleged that Rush exposed himself to her backstage, sent her sexually suggestive text messages and attempted to spy on her while she was showering. I’ve done a bit of acting myself over the years and I happen to know that backstage actors actually have to be quite uninhibited….particularly when you have to get changed quickly for a scene and so on. I’ve seen quite a few bare bums backstage. There is nothing delicate about acting….it is extremely tactile and you simply can’t be shy or inhibited….on stage or off.

    So what if Rush is a little sleazy….a strong woman would have dealt with his stupid little foibles such as calling her “scrumptious” or having him dance naked in front of her….he would have been easy to humiliate. I would have laughed and told him to stop acting like an adolescent. But third wave Marxist feminism has turned young women into little mice….too scared to confront a man dancing naked in front of her. Spare me.

  116. Siltstone

    I too had an ivory coloured 180B, with 8 track cartridge player. Car took lots of punishment in its stride.

  117. Infidel Tiger

    Winx just split Bowman’s lip!

  118. Infidel Tiger

    Fantastic stuff from Bowman.

    Very level headed fella.

  119. calli

    But third wave Marxist feminism has turned young women into little mice

    And the lure of lovely compensation money with a frisson of notoriety. Never forget the cash.

  120. Des Deskperson

    ‘The Odd Couple.’

    Thanks a bunch, calli.

    I have only ever seen Bishop in the flesh once. She appeared exactly like the image in the link. She looked, spoke and behaved like someone you would expect to find managing a motel in Moe.

    Offal dressed as mutton. Yes, I guess the Americans were surprisedby her.

  121. woolfe

    Was Shorten at Randwick?

  122. Ruthm

    Winx doesn’t look to have had enough of racing. I hope they provide her with a running track for her new life.

  123. zyconoclast

    Four people were gunned down, one fatally, on Thursday in California as fans celebrated the life of rapper Nipsey Hussle following his shooting death at 33 last month.

    The victims aged between 30 and 50 were three black males and a woman who was also black, LAPD stated as they said about the South LA incident around 103rd and Main streets: ‘We must stop this senseless violence.’

  124. zyconoclast

    Got to love the Hungarians.

    In January 2018, the Hungarian State Opera in Budapest was widely criticized for staging the George Gershwin opera Porgy and Bess — whose story wrestles with racism, drug abuse and poverty — with a predominantly white cast, despite the fact that the Gershwin estate requires performances to feature an all-black cast.

    Now, the Hungarian production is back for another series of performances of Porgy this month — and its nearly all-white cast was reportedly asked to sign testimonials saying that they were African-American.

    The Hungarian news website Index said that it had obtained the statement, and published it last Friday. According to Index, it reads: “African-American origin and consciousness are an integral part of my identity. That’s why I am especially pleased to be able to play George Gershwin’s Porgy and Bess.” The Hungarian television network ATV reported that a majority of the cast — 15 out 28 performers— signed the statement.

  125. Mother Lode

    The Australian embassy in Washington declined to comment. At the same function in ­Adelaide, Ms Bishop talked about how she and Marise Payne, when they were foreign minister and defence minister respectively, would draw stares and disbelief at international security summits.

    Also prone to exaggeration and embellishment. And further endowed with desperate imaginations.

    People were more likely astonished at the breathtaking combination of self-importance and abysmal understanding.

    And the ludicrous contrast of stick figure and leviathan.

  126. feelthebern

    Interesting.
    The horse that came second, Kluger, was a 7 year old Japanese horse.
    Came fourth in the Doncaster, but was set for this race.
    Give it a couple of years & the QE Stakes will be bigger than the Cox Plate.
    & considering when it’s on, it would have to attract more international horses.

  127. Chris

    A little inside view on what it takes to be a Texas Ranger in Bill Jordan’s No Second Place Winner.

    It has been previously mentioned that nervous tension makes it difficult to
    squeeze a trigger smoothly. This is further complicated in a gunfight by a
    natural disinclination to pull the trigger at all when your weapon is pointed at a
    human. Even though their own life was at stake, most officers report having
    this trouble in their first fight. To aid in overcoming this reluctance it is helpful
    if you can will yourself to think of your opponent as a mere target and not as a
    human being. In this connection you should go further and pick a spot on the
    target. This will allow better concentration and further remove the human
    element from your thinking. If this works for you, try to continue this thought
    that you were shooting a target after the fight is over. There is no point in
    allowing yourself to feel remorse. A man who will resist an officer with
    weapons has no respect for the rules by which decent people are governed. He
    is an outlaw who has no place in world society. His removal is completely
    justified, and should be accomplished dispassionately and without regret.

    I consider myself fortunate in having known one of the greatest peace
    officers this country has produced — Captain John Hughes of the Texas Rang-
    ers. I met him through his close friendship with my late uncle, Dr. Ira Bush
    of El Paso. Dr. Bush, I might mention in passing, was surgeon-general of the
    Insurrecto Army under General Madero and Pancho Villa and wrote a book of
    his experiences called Gringo Doctor. At the time I knew Captain Hughes I
    was a young man just starting in law enforcement, while he was quite elderly
    and long retired from active service. Like most old timers, he was reluctant to
    talk of personal experiences but occasionally passed out advice well worth
    heeding. One such gem that I have always remembered and will pass on was :
    “If you get in a gunfight, don’t let yourself feel rushed. Take your time,
    fast.”

    Now this is advice not easy to follow when you are being shot at and
    constantly reminded by the whine of bullets that man, meaning you, is mortal.
    But all the knowledge you will ever learn about gun fighting is summed up in
    those words. When you really understand their full meaning, you have come
    of age. In order to follow this advice, mental discipline, the result of previous
    hard thinking, is a must. And here a little applied psychology pays off. You
    must force yourself to the belief that your opponent is going to choke up and
    miss and that all you have to do to win is keep cool and make your shot — the
    first one — a hit. This without letting your manufactured contempt get out of
    hand and cause you to take foolish chances! With the vast majority of us this
    attitude must be forced. In an occasional rare individual it is natural. He
    responds to danger by turning into a machine — ignoring the fire of his oppo-
    nents and placing his shots as though indulging in private target practice. This
    is your true gun fighter. Of such material were the John Wesley Hardins and
    other big names of a bygone era made.

  128. Infidel Tiger

    Was Shorten at Randwick?

    Plenty of shady zunts at the races looking to steal your money. He’d blend in well.

    Failing that, his magnificent titties would look good for the fellas out for the eye candy.

  129. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #2986888, posted on April 13, 2019 at 3:23 pm
    But third wave Marxist feminism has turned young women into little mice

    And the lure of lovely compensation money with a frisson of notoriety. Never forget the cash.’

    Yep…and now the Daily Telegraph is going to have to cough up a large amount of cash…..why they decided to run with the Rush story I’ll never know. I suspect it was a fatal combination of the #metoo hysteria and young journalist activists who know nothing about defamation laws.

  130. feelthebern

    After the embarrassment of Ash Barty, I’m surprised ScoMo isn’t handing over the trophy.
    If he thought there was a vote in it, ScoMo would attempt to cover Winx then & there.

  131. feelthebern

    Since the re-furb & the new stand, Randwick is the premier race course in Oz.
    Once the light rail stops outside the gates (circa 2050), it will be lightyears in front of the rest.

  132. Nick

    Lol

    Wallabies star Israel Folau will have a legal defence on the grounds of alleged religious discrimination under national employment law if Rugby Australia terminates his contract.

    Expert views on his legal position emerged as Folau fronted Rugby Australia at its Sydney headquarters on Friday less than a day after the sport’s governing body had threatened to sack him.

  133. feelthebern

    I’d be surprised if it even gets to mediation.
    Izzy just signed a four year extension.
    They’ll settle for a 2 year pay out.
    Done deal.

  134. Mark A

    feelthebern
    #2986898, posted on April 13, 2019 at 3:31 pm

    Interesting.
    The horse that came second, Kluger

    Made motza today backing it for place, good jock too T B.

  135. feelthebern

    Well done Mark A.
    I didn’t have a bet, but it seems to like Randwick.

  136. feelthebern

    Once Moonee Valley gets sold off to make way for units, I wonder where the Cox Plate will be held?
    I don’t much like the Caulfield track.
    Probably Flemington, I suppose.

  137. cohenite

    Bill Thompson

    #2986809, posted on April 13, 2019 at 1:23 pm

    Are you still there mate. I won’t contact Fraser Anning before you get back to me. I think this idea is inspired.

  138. Infidel Tiger

    Lol lol lol!

    The ARU are stupidest xunts on earth.

    What they did to WA rugby is unconscionable. They abandoned the Force and the third biggest rugby playing state because the Force was running at a small loss. They then paid Dave “Rev Gaia” Pocock $700,000+ to have a sabbatical year and find himself.

    Xunts. Complete and utter.

  139. EvilElvis

    They’ll settle for a 2 year pay out.
    Done deal.

    Agreed. Adding to the ARU plunge into the red.

  140. dopey

    Winx bows out in the Queen Elizabeth Stakes. FitzSimons will be having some nightmares tonight.

  141. Knuckle Dragger

    The stares and disbelief, Ms Bishop, were because you and your offsider gave the distinct impression of having swapped each others’ skin before appearing in public.

  142. Infidel Tiger

    Once Moonee Valley gets sold off to make way for units, I wonder where the Cox Plate will be held?
    I don’t much like the Caulfield track.
    Probably Flemington, I suppose.

    Not happening.

    MV is about to undergo a massive expansion. Will completely change the track unfortunately.

  143. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    why they decided to run with the Rush story I’ll never know. I suspect it was a fatal combination of the #metoo hysteria and young journalist activists who know nothing about defamation laws.

    Bingo, Cassie. The same sort who do the moderating on the Oz. 🙂

  144. Rafiki redux

    Calli – did you notice that neither Norvill nor Stone sought compensation? This is not the usual me-too case.

    Cassie – of course Stone only made allegations. Note too that Wigney did not adjudicate on this.

    I am not in doubt that many allegations if rape are false. For example, in my last years at the ANU, there were instances of students alleging date rape (in one case by a boyfriend) to obtain some assessment advantage. Of course they insisted that neither the accused or the police not be informed.

    But the Rush case is far from easy.

  145. feelthebern

    I’m trolling IT.

  146. feelthebern

    Chris Waller having a great day.

  147. feelthebern

    I’m surprised we haven’t claimed that Kiwi as one of our own yet.

  148. Knuckle Dragger

    Craig McLachlan, having watched the Rush case fall off a cliff then exploding into flames at the bottom before its remnants were eaten by crocodiles, must be belting out a few renditions of ‘Hey Mona’ in his loungeroom with delight.

  149. Infidel Tiger

    Well the VRC have been desperate to steal the Cox Plate for years.

  150. Cassie of Sydney

    “But the Rush case is far from easy.”

    What do you mean? The Rush case was based on nonsense….just like the allegations against another actor whose name I won’t mention because that is going to trial. It is ALL nonsense…..there was never any rape……NOTHING….calling someone delicious or dancing naked in front of someone is NOT rape, it is NOT sexual harassment…it might be sleazy…so a man is to be persecuted for being sleazy? All it was and is are allegations from females who have never grown up and who have a bone to pick….probably because their careers haven’t advanced as much as they thought it would.

    Anyway, as Geoffrey Rush said…there are NO winners in this sad case.

  151. Cassie of Sydney

    “Knuckle Dragger
    #2986927, posted on April 13, 2019 at 3:57 pm
    Craig McLachlan, having watched the Rush case fall off a cliff then exploding into flames at the bottom before its remnants were eaten by crocodiles, must be belting out a few renditions of ‘Hey Mona’ in his loungeroom with delight.”

    I doubt he is belting out with delight anything…he is facing a criminal trial….he has been set up by the ABC and Fairfax and been charged by the Victorian police…..remind you of someone else?

  152. Knuckle Dragger

    He’ll be ok, Cassie. In this country at least, we appear to be witnessing the smouldering, leprous death of the #metoo movement. I’m tempted to rack out on a bit of Check 1 2 myself.

    Excellent summation at 3.58, btw. Completely agree.

  153. cohenite

    Those tested in court:
    Rush
    McLachlan
    P.ll
    Peter Blackmore

    Those not:
    tits.

  154. Knuckle Dragger

    And – I betcha all the upcoming ‘witnesses/victims’ in the upcoming trial will by now be frantically tapping away at Google.

    ‘What is cross-examination?’

  155. Cassie of Sydney

    “Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2986920, posted on April 13, 2019 at 3:49 pm
    why they decided to run with the Rush story I’ll never know. I suspect it was a fatal combination of the #metoo hysteria and young journalist activists who know nothing about defamation laws.

    Bingo, Cassie. The same sort who do the moderating on the Oz. “

    Lizzie…I remember reading something by Tim Blair few years back….where he said that he did his cadetship at one of the major newspapers (the name escapes me…can’t remember if it was The Age or Herald Sun). He then moved to the Melbourne Truth…..remember tabloid Truth…and I remember Blair writing that at Truth every journalist was trained to know defamation laws minutely.

    Now a course in journalism is a course in political and social activism.

  156. Dr Faustus

    Shorten says his team will talk to Assange

    The Labor leader was asked at a town hall meeting in Woy Woy about Assange.

    “I’m happy to get my spokespeople to talk to his lawyers in the course of the next few weeks, I think that’s a fair enough request,” Mr Shorten said.

    No voting dick will remain unsucked…

  157. Knuckle Dragger

    *squeaky voice*

    “How DARE you question anything I told Cosmopolitan about that MONSTER! Don’t you know I have a VAGINA????’

  158. Tailgunner

    I’m at the ‘G, Lannisters getting pumped.
    This is not Winning!

  159. Tom

    why they decided to run with the Rush story I’ll never know. I suspect it was a fatal combination of the #metoo hysteria and young journalist activists who know nothing about defamation laws.

    More fundamental than that, Cassie. Nothing pleases a newspaper owner more than increasing sales and nothing sells a tabloid newspaper like salacious gossip.

    Normally, there are adults in charge to make sure the story is responsible and “checks out” but, in this case, the adults were overwhelmed by the reckless kiddies on staff, who wanted to land a gotcha on a tribal enemy, a famous actor who isn’t a virtue-signalling leftard luvvie like most of the acting profession.

    As a result, the Daily Telegraph‘s lack of ethical discipline is not only going to cost the paper a lot of money, but has inflicted on it severe reputational damage that, until now, has been reserved for the delinquent Fairfax newspapers on their way to oblivion.

    Without disciplined ownership, Mudrock’s global empire, now in the hands of his children, will eventually go the way of Fairfax.

  160. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tom
    #2986940, posted on April 13, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    Without disciplined ownership, Mudrock’s global empire, now in the hands of his children, will eventually go the way of Fairfax.

    Agree entirely….my stepfather is a journalist (long retired though he now writes books) and he said that there is NO way that story would have been published back in the days when there was strong editorial control.

  161. adrian

    I have great admiration for the Jewish people, they have contributed so much to human civilization, and excel in all the all avenues of human endeavour. Unfortunately some have chosen to become Zionists who keep stealing more and more Palestinian land and who constantly look to create more and more provocations as an excuse to steal even more.

    To suggest that Israel has never committed war crimes is untrue. After operation “cast lead” the war Crimes Tribunal appointed judge Goldstone to investigate claims of war crimes by both parties. After extensive examination concluded that war crimes had been committed by both sides. After submitting his report he was immediately ferociously attacked by Israel and Zionists and called a “traitor,” notwithstandng the fact that judge Goldstone is Jewish himself and is greatly admired as a international jurist.
    There is a clear distinction between wonderful Jews and Zionists. Zionists claim that anyone using the term is antisemetic as a defence.

    After reading some of the posts above, Zionists reveal when they they resort to using terms like “you lying xunt” hardly intellectual language!!!

  162. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What do you mean? The Rush case was based on nonsense

    Absolutely. He called her ‘yummy’ or ‘scrumptious’ or some such in a text where he was offering some mentoring advice. This used to be par for the course in theatre language; I can’t count the number of times I have called a man ‘gorgeous’.

    OTT compliments are still usual and generally accepted as they are meant to be, complimentary, in many social and work situations (and these often overlap) especially when uttered between friends/colleagues working together. Long ago I once opened my front door to a girl’s brother – she set me up on a date with him. But you’re gorgeous, he said immediately. He may or may not have meant it, but it did him, and me, no harm, although it did make me wonder what sort of a rap my friend had given me to cause him quite such surprise. Went out with him a few times and he became a good friend to take me out when a partner was required. Never anything more.

  163. Ubique

    From what I can find, there has been some decrease in Australia’s electricity generation GHG emissions in the past ten years. I suspect it’s most likely almost entirely due to the substitution of gas for coal, and that our billions of investment in wind and solar has achieved bugger all. Can anyone point to some decent data?

  164. mh

    Democrats exposed

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    8h
    WE WILL NEVER FORGET!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1116817144006750209?s=20

  165. Knuckle Dragger

    Hmm.

    I must stop placing the same word twice in every sentence, or placing it in consecutive sentences.

  166. Rabid Koala

    Section 44 wipes out 3 Liberal candidates

    FMD

    How hard is it to find Aussies to run for parliament? Why do the Libs keep picking foreigners?

  167. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    But third wave Marxist feminism has turned young women into little mice….too scared to confront a man dancing naked in front of her. Spare me.

    Yep. That’s the response. You’d take one withering look at it, throw up your hands in mock horror or do the little finger pinkie, and say ‘spare me, darling, spare me’. He’d have his towel back on in a flash (as it were).

    🙂

  168. Bruce of Newcastle

    “How DARE you question anything I told Cosmopolitan about that MONSTER! Don’t you know I have a VAGINA????’

    Pot plants are becoming increasingly popular for some reason.

    Lonely Millennials Are Becoming Friends With Houseplants (12 Apr)

    Florida grower Matt Metzler said he had “never seen anything like this.” Grower Maxwell Sherer said simply: “It’s a good time to be in plants.”

    They tend not to ruin your whole life if you piss them off.

  169. mh

    feelthebern
    #2986904, posted on April 13, 2019 at 3:37 pm
    Since the re-furb & the new stand, Randwick is the premier race course in Oz.
    Once the light rail stops outside the gates (circa 2050), it will be lightyears in front of the rest.

    By 2050, horse racing will have been banned due to the continued threat from vegan terrorism.

  170. Rafiki redux

    Contrawise, it is nonsense to say that the News’ plea of justification was bssed on nonsense. It was based on their knowledge of Norvill’s complaint to STC msnagement, so clearly not figment of a rascslly young hack’s imagination. Her account at trial was backed by Winter’s account of what he saw. Wigney dismissed this on the basis that it differed from Norvill’s. But that may also suggests that they did not concoct the story. Conflict in details adds verisimilitude as much as it detracts from it.

    Enough said by me. I want to have a wine to celebrate the Giants win over the Cats.

  171. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well, I haven’t found a black hole or a new hominid but I have put the final kybosh on King Arthur.
    Still working on it. Baby steps. 🙂

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    BoN,

    As an added plus, you can starve them to death without going to jail.

  173. calli

    The stares and disbelief, Ms Bishop, were because you and your offsider gave the distinct impression of having swapped each others’ skin before appearing in public.

    Ahahahahahah! Perfect!

  174. Tom

    I must stop placing the same word twice in every sentence, or placing it in consecutive sentences.

    KD, stuff like that is a lifetime’s work for some of us. You’re good at other stuff. Don’t be so hard on yourself.

  175. calli

    Calli – did you notice that neither Norvill nor Stone sought compensation? This is not the usual me-too case.

    My comment in response to Cassie was a generalisation on third wave fembots.

    There’s something there with Norvill that doesn’t sit right. I’ve seen photos from her Facebook/Twitter. She’s no shrinking violet. Soooo…to cause the upset that was sufficient for complaint, Rush must have been utterly blatant and hideous, or she’s after something else.

    On the other sujet du jour, I’m watching the Woodies defeat Manly at TG Milner.

    I have no self-control.

  176. calli

    And I know that my pricking thumbs have zero influence in a court of law. 🙂

  177. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I want to have a wine to celebrate the Giants win over the Cats.

    I’m having one in a few minutes to celebrate it’s Saturday. Saturnalia these days as Hairy recovers from his illnesses is often a quiet night in. I join him in no drinkies on Mondays and Thursdays, and occasional Fridays, so Saturday is me hitting the bigtime of a few glasses of a very nice red. Hairy back home soon from the gym and with the shopping. Last time I asked him if broccoli was still a terrible price. From his lost expression I knew that he didn’t look. Just grabbed some. I could never do that.

  178. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Rush must have been utterly blatant and hideous, or she’s after something else.

    Don’t think so given the theatrical situation, Calli. He was just a bit louche, that’s all.
    I think it was some sort of me-too feminist grandstanding. Some women get off on it.

  179. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tinta, check your email. A good news day for us!

  180. Black Ball

    You’ve tempted me Lizzie and now I shall partake in a wine. Not sure what yet, perhaps a red.
    Watching a fishing show earlier, never been out on the seas fishing. Who here has indulged in this pastime and what is the fish to catch?

  181. calli

    Sorry rafiki. I have not seen Norvill’s Facebook/Twitter.

    I am confusing her with the complainant in the Craig MacLaughlin case.

    I can’t even blame Rugby. My team won.

  182. Elle

    My letterbox is too high for a dog to crap in.
    Who funded the Kerryn Phelps’ shite I found in my letterbox yesterday?

  183. Knuckle Dragger

    BB,

    Darwin Harbour.
    Black Jooooofish.
    Salmon.
    Red Emperor.
    Giant Trevally.
    Tuna.
    Cobia.
    Spanish Mackerel.
    Barramundi (salt water, a more silvery colour than the river ones).

    Any time of year. Everything but the Spanish Macks you get from the shore as well. Plus as many sharks as you can catch.

  184. Hay Stockard

    Knuckle Dragger,You used placing twice in the same sentence.
    Just trying to be helpful.

  185. Knuckle Dragger

    You’ll never think about chasing whiting in freezing rain in Port Philip Bay the same way again.

  186. Black Ball

    Yes Knuckle Dragger I believe they were after Giant Trevally. Looks a magnificent fish

  187. Cassie of Sydney

    “Elle
    #2986971, posted on April 13, 2019 at 5:18 pm
    My letterbox is too high for a dog to crap in.
    Who funded the Kerryn Phelps’ shite I found in my letterbox yesterday?”

    Mine went straight into the bin. GetUp and Turdbull Jnr are funding it.

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    Hay,

    If I used placing twice, whether or not in consecutive sentences, I would certainly have to think twice about my use of the word placing.

  189. calli

    Mine went straight into the bin. GetUp and Turdbull Jnr are funding it.

    Yet she is whingeing about “dirty tricks” in the electorate.

    In Wentworth, that could mean anything.

  190. Elle

    Mine went straight into the bin. GetUp and Turdbull Jnr are funding it.

    A return envelope was included. They went all out!
    I was not very environmentally PC.
    I ripped it up and put it in with my cat’s kitty litter.

  191. John Constantine

    https://7news.com.au/original-fyi/crime-story-investigator/mexican-drug-cartels-how-they-infiltrated-australia-and-have-more-power-than-ever

    US, Canadian or Australian pilots are preferred – and considered less conspicuous – than Central or South Americans.

    They land in remote locations or small airports with no customs or immigration posts.

    They land in remote locations or small airports with no customs or immigration posts.

    The profits, usually piles of cash, are loaded on board for the return trip and destined for the cartel’s sophisticated money-laundering schemes.

    Whether by air or sea, the cartel’s drugs are quickly assimilated into a long established and well-honed distribution network dominated by outlaw motorcycle gangs – masters of logistics management.

    They often work in collaboration with other organised crime operations such as middle-eastern and Asian gangs.

    Forget turf wars. It’s all about the money – and yesterday’s enemy might be tomorrow’s best friend.

    The greatest risk to these operations is a leak or an undercover agent, and, with dramatically improved communication in global policing, that threat is growing.

    However, it’s a risk many are prepared to take – the profits are just vast.

    Wait for a cartel related outrage incident in australia, then jacindamania will strike and long prepared plans for the end of cash get produced, or at least the end of hundred dollar notes, then shifty fifties.

    Comrades.

  192. John Constantine

    I don’t think i have seen a hundy dollar note this year.

  193. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #2986979, posted on April 13, 2019 at 5:30 pm
    Mine went straight into the bin. GetUp and Turdbull Jnr are funding it.

    Yet she is whingeing about “dirty tricks” in the electorate.

    In Wentworth, that could mean anything.”

    Remember back in October that email went around…which the slag Phelps claimed insulted or demeaned her and of course….her useful allies…Fauxfax and the ABC….jumped on the bandwagon and made her out to be the victim of the smear….but actually the email was far more insulting and demeaning about Sharma…..now I wonder if the stupid fucking Liberals have bothered to follow the email up….because I think that it was designed to help Phelps’ campaign. The whole Phelps circus is dirty.

  194. Zyconoclast:

    The victims aged between 30 and 50 were three black males and a woman who was also black, LAPD stated as they said about the South LA incident around 103rd and Main streets: ‘We must stop this senseless violence.’

    Why?
    AA’s have worked damn hard to establish a gun obsessed, drug and alcohol fueled, misogynistic and violent culture. Do we actually have the right to deny them the rewards of this effort?
    We don’t – let them have their ghettos and ho’s.
    Let them kill each other on a random basis.
    They are only our problem because we buy into it.
    I’m totally over these morons who get up in the morning determined to live another miserable day in Hell without making any real and sustainable effort to better themselves.
    Then they claim it’s all whiteys fault – gimme reparations so I can buy more guns/drugs/ho’s and let our children grow up without parents.

  195. mh

    Winx wins her final race at Randwick’s Queen Elizabeth Stakes (last 400m)

    https://mobile.twitter.com/i/events/1116929248168538114

    You will see that Winx hits the Randwick 400m mark with nothing in front of her, following a steady even tempo up to that point. There can only be one winner.

    Great occasion, but not great racing.

  196. Dr Faustus

    From what I can find, there has been some decrease in Australia’s electricity generation GHG emissions in the past ten years. I suspect it’s most likely almost entirely due to the substitution of gas for coal, and that our billions of investment in wind and solar has achieved bugger all. Can anyone point to some decent data?

    Yes.
    You will see that gas generation has indeed grown in line with renewables.

  197. calli

    I’m totally over these morons who get up in the morning determined to live another miserable day in Hell without making any real and sustainable effort to better themselves.

    Hate Speech!

  198. Overburdened

    Apologies if already covered.

    Peter Dutton made an accurate statement when saying that the alp person was using her disability as an excuse.

    I know this to be true because I read a news article where she said that it was the reason she wasn’t living in the electorate.

    It’s a disgrace that it has come to the point where people are being shamed into apologising for stating a fact.

    A good test would be to find out amputees of her variety live in the electorate.

    If there is none, then her excuse is valid.

    I will hazard a guess that there are a few.

  199. Overburdened

    How many amputees of her variety….

  200. Leigh Lowe

    Tailgunner

    #2986939, posted on April 13, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    I’m at the ‘G, Lannisters getting pumped.
    This is not Winning!

    See them Bombers.
    They flyin’ up, up.
    Walla!!!
    Seven of the best!

  201. Cassie of Sydney

    Dutton been forced to apologise…probably by Morrison…the Liberals learn NOTHING…they really are pathetic….he should have stood firm. Do you think that Trump would have apologised for speaking the truth. Nope.

  202. JC

    Leigh, finally dusk on the Sabbath and no more restrictions.

  203. John Constantine:

    I don’t think i have seen a hundy dollar note this year.

    Bloody ‘ell.
    Most of my stash is in that denomination.
    That’s going to be awkward, wheeling a barrow load of them into the bank to get ’em changed.
    🙂

  204. Leigh Lowe

    I was in the next room today and, in the background, I could here Bruce McAvaney getting all hot and sweaty about Winx.
    Sounded a bit like he needed a spray with the big cool-down hose they use on the ponies.

  205. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh, finally dusk on the Sabbath and no more restrictions.

    Shalom, Comrade.

  206. calli

    How far are you going to take your new-found identification, JC?

  207. candy

    My letterbox is too high for a dog to crap in.
    Who funded the Kerryn Phelps’ shite I found in my letterbox yesterday?

    Alex Turnbull is apparently funding the campaigns of Banks, Phelps and Steggall, at least. I wonder if he’s got a hand in funding any rival of conservatives the Turnbull are enemies with, such as Dutton and so on. It’s pretty secretive stuff going on, would have to be organised by a clever lawyer accountant type, is my opinion.

  208. Cassie of Sydney

    JC
    #2986994, posted on April 13, 2019 at 6:05 pm
    Leigh, finally dusk on the Sabbath and no more restrictions.

    What…are you keeping Shabbat? When I kept Shabbat strictly I never look at it as “restrictive”..there are actually a lot of things you can do on Shabbat…one thing in particular is sanctioned.

  209. Cassie of Sydney

    Shavua tov everyone.

  210. Confused Old Misfit

    You will see that Winx hits the Randwick 400m mark with nothing in front of her, following a steady even tempo up to that point. There can only be one winner.

    Great occasion, but not great racing.

    Looked to me that 4 horses hit the 400m mark with nothing in front of them.
    The fastest horse got to the finish line in the fastest time.

    What’s your problem with that?

  211. Overburdened

    Dutton should has turned full face to the news camera, stared down the barrel and in his firmest voice said,

    You can’t handle the truth.

    Some JN crazy eyes would be good too.

  212. calli

    I’m just relieved that the horse reached the finish line without mishap.

    But then, you guys know what I think about racing.

    I hope she produces lots of lovely, pricey foals and enjoys the best back paddock. With regular hooficures. She deserves them.

  213. mh

    I was in the next room today and, in the background, I could here Bruce McAvaney getting all hot and sweaty about Winx.

    No one was even attempting to spoil the Winx party. Possibly Australia’s greatest horse ever, but that is not a race to get excited about. That 2000m race at Caulfield last spring when Bowman got caught second from last pinned on the fence, with a track and pace that did not suit – and a big field – that was exciting. Not today.

  214. Overburdened

    I haven’t seen any footage of him apologising, but I presume that he would have given the impression that apologising is bullshit.

    I would be disappointed if I find out he just bent over.

  215. rickw

    Maintenance and repair day for the 3D printers, they’re busily making spare parts for each other. 🙂

  216. mh

    Looked to me that 4 horses hit the 400m mark with nothing in front of them.
    The fastest horse got to the finish line in the fastest time.

    What’s your problem with that?

    No problem with it, but it’s not competitive racing. The other connections know Winx will have the fastest closing sectional times, meaning there can only be one winner when the race is run as it was today.

  217. Bruce of Newcastle

    Interesting story on ABC24 just now, about the Indonesian election. (Not up on ABC website yet.) Looked like a couple thousand expatriate Indonesians were voting in Melbourne, with a queue going for blocks to get to the consulate.

    My impression is very few were sartorially religious, although the ABC reporter did find one lady in a hijab. But lots of ladies were not doing so – looking like they may be from the Chinese Indonesian community. Vocal Jokowi supporters.

    Good stuff, although how long democracy can survive in Indo is an interesting question. If the Chinese Indonesians want to establish a bolthole in Australia that is fine by me. We need more industrious champions of free market capitalism to counteract the zombie socialist masses of indoctrinated local kiddies graduating high school. 😀

  218. Overburdened

    https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/winx-proves-shes-not-just-a-horse/news-story/31482c31f028a2be8970bba56b19d356

    A fine example of what used to be called purple prose in the old days.

    Is Winx a tranny or did she turn into a rocket or something.

  219. MatrixTransform

    Who here has indulged in this pastime and what is the fish to catch?

    Port Phillip.
    Flathead, Snapper, Whiting, Garfish and assorted others if have the patience and time

  220. Knuckle Dragger

    OB, 6.20pm;

    Yes. He should have done what Tiger Woods also should have done during his presser after his missus tried to nine-iron him into history.

    Tiger should have said, ‘You know what? It’s all true. I’m a multi, multi millionaire and I play golf because it makes me more millions. I shit more money every day than all you seagulls put together in a year. Of course I’ve been porking the best looking models I can find in every city I visit around the world.

    ‘Who wouldn’t? Wifey knew what she was getting into – no-one’s heard about her having to pay bills. She’s set for the rest of her life as well.

    ‘In short, I did it because I could, and don’t any of you cowards pretend you wouldn’t do the same thing in my position. Now, if you don’t mind, I’m going to get into my Lambo, rack up some coke and find the perkiest chick in town – and two of her friends – and have the time of my life. Again.

    ‘This press conference is over.’

  221. Bruce of Newcastle

    The fastest horse got to the finish line in the fastest time.

    Yes but who’d want to be the 2nd placing jockey. Do I go all out and beat Winx by a nose? Thereby risking being torn limb from limb by the crowd? Or do I take a cautious line and risk being ripped a new arsehole by the stewards? Decisions, decisions.

  222. Knuckle Dragger
    #2987014, posted on April 13, 2019 at 6:32 pm

    ‘This press conference is over.’

    If he had done that he would be an official legend throughout time.

  223. Mark A

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2987004, posted on April 13, 2019 at 6:16 pm

    Looked to me that 4 horses hit the 400m mark with nothing in front of them.
    The fastest horse got to the finish line in the fastest time.

    What’s your problem with that?

    Never mind him COF he has a bee in his bonnet about Winx, I was watching the race with keen interest as I had heaps on the second for place and some,”just in case” for win, Kruger made a race of it and only the class and speed of Winx beat it.

    If a horse is too good lets admit it and work around it with your wagers.

  224. JC

    Cassie

    Just joshing around. One of my kids did one of those DNA test thingis and it came back with a marker showing a high Ashkenazi line in her pedigree. Dunno which of us parents it is. Whoever it is though may entitle us to an Israeli passport 🙂

    I said I was heading to temple and obeying the Tribe’s rules from now on.

  225. Mother Lode

    Dutton been forced to apologise

    People should send him emails saying that they realise apologising was forced upon him and that they consider he was right to say what he did.

    Neuter the humiliation and let him know that the person who forced him is the one who has shamed themselves.

  226. feelthebern

    There was a huge security presence at the temple around the corner today.
    Usually guard or two at the front door.
    Today, they were also at either end of block plus across the road.

  227. Knuckle Dragger

    MT;

    Ah yes, flathead – the Black Prince of the sea.

    It cruises majestically over its domain, an apex predator in an environment of apex predators. As beautiful as it is deadly to its prey, it actively seeks out other piscatorial species and consumes as much as half its own body weight in a single day. The marine world collectively bows to its power and brute strength as the flathead reinforces its benevolent, yet at times terrifying rule.

    When caught its power is unmatched, fighting with every ounce of its strength like an archangel dragged inch by inch towards the pit of Lucifer. Few are the men who can truthfully tell a tale of winning such a titanic struggle.

    Or, it spends its entire life on the bottom of shallow waters sucking worms and baby crabs out of the sand. Can’t remember which.

    The BJs or GTs, MT – that’ll get ya blood pumping!

  228. mh

    Sometimes I wish Australian racing had more flexible rules, maybe the use of pacemakers.

    When a horse wins 33? times in a row, so many of them G1s, maybe racing should be thinking outside the square.

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