Monday Forum: April 15, 2019

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  1. Speedbox

    Hey! Where is everybody?

  2. Speedbox

    (sighs. shuffles off).

  3. Exit Stage Right

    I’m present Mr Sinc.

  4. C.L.

    In a way, Inglis was another black football champion hounded out by our new morals campaigners.
    He got pinched on a piss-ant mid-range DD charge (no conviction was recorded) and the ARL stripped him of the Kangaroos captaincy.

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Morning, all.

  6. OldOzzie

    Tolerating religious diversity -The Australian Editorial

    Wallabies star Israel Folau is entitled to his views about the devil, hell and repentance with regard to “drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters”. However out of step with contemporary mores, many Christians, as well as followers of other faiths, hold similar views. Folau has the courage of his convictions, but critics might remind him of Christ’s words: “Judge not, that you be not judged.’’

    Last week, Rugby Australia chief executive Raelene Castle and NSW Rugby Union CEO Andrew Hore said they wanted to make it clear Folau “does not speak for the game with his recent social media posts’’. While he was “entitled to his religious beliefs’’, they said, the way he expressed them was “inconsistent with the values of the sport’’. Fair enough. It would have been prudent to leave it there and get on with building up the code. But they made it clear that “in the absence of compelling mitigating factors, it is our intention to terminate his contract’’. In that case, as Wayne Smith writes today, Folau is likely to mount a legal defence on the grounds of alleged religious discrimination under national employment law. The process and the outcome, however it falls, is likely to be divisive and messy, raising important questions about the right to free speech.

    Barring Folau from the sport at which he excels could be regarded as religious persecution. Australians value tolerance and respect the rights of others to live as they choose. But, however objectionable, Folau’s views may be to many, they are not hate speech or vilification. Respect for diversity, as married gay MP Tim Wilson said last year, includes the need to respect a diversity of opinion.

  7. Bruce of Newcastle

    I read today that there are 17.4 million Nazis in Britain.

    Rees-Mogg’s BLISTERING attack on ‘foolish’ Lammy after he compares Brexiteers to NAZIS

    Who knew? Meanwhile the Left in Finland has been given a serve.

    Finland’s STRONG warning to EU: Populist party makes HUGE GAINS in SHOCK election result

    The nationalist Finns Party narrowly avoided victory after taking 17.6 percent after more than 97 percent of votes were counted. They were narrowly pipped to the post by Finland’s leftist Social Democrat party (SDP), with leader Antti Rinne declaring victory after partial results showed his party winning by a tight margin with 17.8 percent.

    They’ve gone within a gnat’s whisker of being the largest party in the Finland Parliament. Yep, they’re Nazis too apparently. Projection is strong with the Left.

  8. mh

    Cher gets it

    Cher
    @cher
    I Understand Helping struggling Immigrants,but MY CITY (Los Angeles) ISNT TAKING CARE OF ITS OWN.WHAT ABOUT THE 50,000+🇺🇸Citizens WHO LIVE ON THE STREETS.PPL WHO LIVE BELOW POVERTY LINE,& HUNGRY? If My State Can’t Take Care of Its Own(Many Are VETS)How Can it Take Care Of More
    4:14 AM · Apr 15, 2019

  9. Roger

    Australians value tolerance and respect the rights of others to live as they choose.

    Alan Joyce is not Australian by birth or upbringing.

  10. Helen

    Little Dick di Nitwit has send us another letter, our little secret, apparently. The call out for volunteers was so fantastic, in fact, ‘phenominal’ he is calling out for volunteers. And sorry if you have already offered to volunteer, please pass on volunteer request to five of your friends in the fight against big whatever, housing prices, polluting coal – Adani gets a special mention – and transition to renewable energy.

    I was reading somewhere that Electickery Bill’s leccy cars need 4 times as much copper as ordinary cars. How are the greens going to get that if big mining is dead to them?

  11. OldOzzie

    Coal hard facts undermine Greens’ dreamworld

    Judith Sloan

    Greens’ leader Richard Di Natale yesterday outlined his party’s promise to shut down the coal industry by 2030. He is living in a complete dreamworld if he thinks Australia can be out of coal by 2030 and not face massive economic dislocation and lower living standards.

    Without this export income, we become unable to import at the current rate, including the inputs for his beloved renewable energy. And without coal, state and federal governments will be less able to provide services and help the less well-off.

    Let’s go through some salient facts about coal in Australia. We are the largest producer of high-quality coal in the world, with three-quarters of our coal production exported, mainly to Asia. The amount of coal produced and exported has been increasing strongly in recent years, rising from about 60 megatonnes of exports a decade ago to 100mt today.

    Coal is Australia’s highest export earner, just above iron ore. (Of course, iron ore makes no sense without coal.) In 2017-18, coal exports amounted to $66 billion. This figure is expected to be higher this financial year. The international prices of both coking and thermal coal have been rising since 2015, indicating ongoing strength in demand, particularly from Asia.

    Coalmining in Australia directly employs more than 80,000 workers in high-paying jobs. There are at least as many indirect jobs created, including at export ports.

    Coalmining is most prevalent in Queensland and NSW. Coal royalties are important to both state governments, particularly Queensland. This financial year, Queensland will earn more than $5bn in coal royalties. Were it not for these, the Queensland government would be in deep fiscal trouble.

    Coal is also important in supporting the federal budget through the flow of company tax receipts.

    This year’s budget papers noted that if the coking coal price were to remain elevated at current levels (compared with Treasury’s assumption of a fall in the price), an extra $600 million would be added to tax receipts next financial year and a further $1bn in the following one.

    While the start of the Adani mine in the Galilee Basin has been unforgivably delayed, two new coalmines have been approved in Queensland since 2015. Because the high-quality coal from Adani will replace high-emitting brown coal burnt in India to generate electricity, the net effect on world emissions would be positive. And it would provide the basis for large numbers of Indians being able to access electricity for the first time.

    Here’s the real kicker: even if Australia gets out of coal, it doesn’t mean the world’s use of coal will fall — it will just be sourced from inferior ore bodies in different countries.

    Contributing Economics Editor

    Judith Sloan is an economist and company director. She holds degrees from the University of Melbourne and the London School of Economics. She has held a number of government appointments, including Commissioner of the Productivity Commission; Commissioner of the Australian Fair Pay Commission; and Deputy Chairman of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

  12. C.L.

    Zali Steggall is claiming Tony Abbott incited Captain GetUp! to poster-rape her.
    Video of the Captain’s assault.
    Report.

  13. bespoke

    I may missed his point but disagree with Crowder we need more real life achievers as examples to counter the overly emotional embellished stories in the MSM.

  14. mh

    OldOzzie
    #2988132, posted on April 15, 2019 at 12:15 pm
    Tolerating religious diversity -The Australian Editorial

    Very disingenuous of the Oz to not mention that Izzy was responding to extreme progressivism. That being Tasmania making it optional to record a gender on a birth certificate.

    Tasmania makes gender optional on birth certificates after Liberal crosses floor
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-10/birth-certificate-gender-laws-pass-in-tasmania/10989170

  15. OldOzzie

    Greens would push Labor hard left on climate policy

    The Australian Editorial

    12:00AM April 15, 2019

    Voters thinking of supporting Labor in the expectation or hope that the Senate would put the brakes on the party’s uncosted climate and electric vehicles policy or its tax measures that would cost voters $387 billion over a decade should take a reality check. Greens leader Richard Di Natale has again marked himself out as the head of a party of extremists, insisting the Greens would push a Shorten government hard on climate change, backing Labor’s planned tax increases and calling for even greater social spending on free universities and TAFE, housing and dental care.

    Displaying breathtaking disregard for economic security and jobs, Senator Di Natale had no compunction in advocating the demise of Australia’s biggest export industry, coal, which earned $66bn last year. In an ABC interview yesterday, he said Australia should transition away from burning and exporting coal by 2030. The Adani mine in Queensland’s Galilee basin “can’t be built’’, he argued, claiming the Coalition was “dragging its knuckles’’ and Labor “dragging its heels’’ on climate change. He said the Greens had “reached out to Bill Shorten’’ and would push Labor hard to do “what needs to be done’’ on climate policy.

    That is alarming. Labor’s climate policy is already wildly ambitious and has been released without costings. It aims for an emissions reduction target of 45 per cent on 2005 levels by 2030 and a 50 per cent renewable energy target. The costs of firms’ abatement efforts would affect profits, dividends, jobs and wages. Taxpayers and motorists would face indeterminate costs under Labor’s plan to subsidise EVs, which it wants built in Australia.

    The ideological tone of Senator Di Natale’s comments shows the Greens have not changed over the past decade, since the party voted down Kevin Rudd’s emissions trading scheme in 2009, claiming it did not go far enough. The Greens’ reckless disregard for the nation’s main export industry and the jobs it creates — that are the lifeblood of many families and towns in areas of high unemployment across regional Australia, especially in central and northern Queensland — is a reminder that it is a fringe protest party.

    At the outset of the first full week of the campaign, voters appear to be focusing on the main issues and the major parties. Taxation will be one of the main focuses of the campaign this week, with the release of tables showing that in 2024-25, all wage earners on more than $39,105 would be better off under the Coalition, with the benefits extending across the low and middle-income range.

    In an encouraging trend to emerge from the first Newspoll of the campaign, support for minor parties is in decline. The poll showed a lift in the primary vote for both the Coalition and Labor, with a slump in One Nation support to its lowest level since the 2016 election. After peaking at 11 per cent of the national primary vote less than two years ago, Pauline Hanson’s party has fallen to 4 per cent, with a striking two-point fall in the past fortnight.

    The One Nation collapse follows the funds-for-guns scandal, in which a One Nation staffer was recorded by broadcaster Al-Jazeera secretly offering to try to water down Australia’s gun laws in the hope of securing a $20 million donation from the US gun lobby.

    The Greens’ support is steady at 9 per cent, compared with 10.2 per cent at the last election. Despite their high-profile push in traditional blue-ribbon Liberal seats in Victoria such as Higgins and Kooyong, their main hunting ground remains the Senate. The electorate should be under no illusions about the Greens’ intention to push Labor as far left as possible on climate change, regardless of the costs.

  16. Knuckle Dragger

    Zatara, 11.53 am;

    I suppose it’s not that surprising, now that I think about it. If these idiots up here don’t think the Chinese will backdoor the software they’re installing on our behalf they’re even stupider than I thought.

    As mole indicated, if you’d said this five years ago you’d be sent straight to the nutbin.

    The thing that troubles me most is that no one has mentioned what the consequences may be for anyone jumping their ‘virtual fence’, and more importantly who qualifies to be virtually fenced off in the first place.

    Fenced off for what? Who decides who’s fenced out, and for how long? What happens to virtual fence offenders?

    There are questions, but no answers. Interesting to note as well that the NT government decided not to tell everyone else they’d leased the entire Port of Darwin to the Chinese for 99 years until well after the ink was dry on the contract.

    The same has happened here. It’s the slippery slope we’re already on, and I’m not sure if there’s a turnback point.

  17. Roger

    Steggall said the group Advance Australia “are all members of the Liberal party” and they “openly endorse Tony Abbott”.

    She evidently thinks that’s a crime, or should be…?

  18. mh

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump
    Everyone is asking how Tiger played yesterday. The answer is Great! He was long, straight & putted fantastically well. He shot a 64. Tiger is back & will be winning Majors again! Not surprisingly, Jack also played really well. His putting is amazing! Jack & Tiger like each other.

    154K
    7:14 AM – Feb 4, 2019

  19. cuckoo

    Having seen the new Vic government ad about not hassling, er, women, I have only one question. Is that a tranny on the train?

  20. Fisky

    The LDP have lost the NSW upper house election. Latham elected instead, with a massive below the line personal vote.

  21. Fisky

    Any sign of m0nster? He’s been very quiet since Muellerween!

  22. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m waiting for Tim Wilson to bring out his new Coloring Inbetween The Lines With Israel Coloring Book.
    At taxpayers expense of course.

  23. Habib

    Under 30 and not been ’round for ages.

  24. Stimpson J. Cat

    The LDP have lost the NSW upper house election. Latham elected instead, with a massive below the line personal vote.

    This is a big Blow for Bowtie Lovers, but a big Boon for Uber loving Taxi haters.

  25. OldOzzie

    NSW upper house: One Nation picks up second seat, David Leyonhjelm misses out

    Andrew Clennell
    NSW Political Editor


    One Nation under Mark Latham has won two seats in the NSW upper house and will form a conservative coalition to hold the balance of power with the Christian Democrats and Shooters, Fishers and Farmers.

    Keep Sydney Open’s Tyson Koh and Liberal Democrat David Leyonhjelm missed out on a spot after being one of five candidates from minor parties fighting to two different spots.

    Overall, after the final NSW Legislative Council preferences distribution this morning from the March 23 state election, the Coalition won eight seats (taking their number to 17), Labor won seven seats (taking their number to 14), the Greens two (four); the Shooters Fishers and Farmers one (two), One Nation’s Mark Latham one, Animal Justice Party 1 (2).

    The Christian Democrats have 1 seat, with Paul Green missing out.

    Because Premier Gladys Berejiklian has nominated Liberal John Ajaka as the President, the Coalition need five crossbenchers to get legislation up if Labor opposes it.

    Ms Berejiklian told The Weekend Australian on Saturday that she believed there was a lot she could achieve without legislation.

    One Nation’s Rod Roberts was elected in the 21st and last spot and Animal Justice’s Emma hurst was also elected. – Bummer

    The result means it is likely Ms Berejiklian would need the support of One Nation, the Shootets and CDP Fred Nile to get laws though.

  26. bespoke

    Fisky
    #2988155, posted on April 15, 2019 at 12:41 pm
    Any sign of m0nster? He’s been very quiet since Muellerween!

    He’s been replaced by and older rake master with a lot less dignity.

  27. calli

    What is this “my city” Cher speaks of? Didn’t she tweet that from Canada?

    She promised to move there in 2016 if Trump won the presidency.

    Did she lie?

  28. Mak Siccar

    Hhhhhmm! Does this sound familiar?

    Gove’s bottle-deposit scheme is a bad idea
    It would be costly, time-consuming and, no, it won’t save the turtles.

    CHRIS SNOWDON
    15th April 2019

    Gove’s bottle-deposit scheme is a bad idea

    TopicsPOLITICS UK

    No one can accuse Michael Gove of twiddling his thumbs at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA). Busy as one of his beloved bees, he has launched a range of initiatives in the past two years, most of which involve banning things.

    In February, DEFRA launched a public consultation on whether the government should set up a mandatory bottle-deposit scheme, one of Gove’s favourite ideas. If it becomes law, you will pay a 10-20p deposit on any drink sold in a disposable can or bottle, which you will be able to reclaim at a reverse vending machine or manual take-back point.

    Seemingly inspired by David Attenborough’s Blue Planet II documentary, Gove has often pointed to ocean pollution as the justification for this policy.

    ‘We can be in no doubt that plastic is wreaking havoc on our marine environment – killing dolphins, choking turtles and degrading our most precious habitats’, Gove says. ‘It is absolutely vital we act now to tackle this threat and curb the millions of plastic bottles a day that go unrecycled.’

    ‘We have already banned harmful microbeads and cut plastic-bag use, and now we want to take action on plastic bottles to help clean up our oceans’, he says.

    Plastic pollution of the oceans is certainly a problem, but it is far from clear that a deposit system for beverage bottles in Britain would alleviate it. Ten rivers transport 88 to 95 per cent of all the plastic found in the oceans. Eight of them are in Asia. The other two are in Africa.

    Read the rest of the article here:
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/04/15/goves-bottle-deposit-scheme-is-a-bad-idea/

  29. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    She promised to move there in 2016 if Trump won the presidency.

    IIRC, there was a list of the ‘celebrities” who were going to leave for Canada if Trump won?

  30. “mh
    #2988135, posted on April 15, 2019 at 12:17 pm
    Cher gets it

    Cher
    @cher
    I Understand Helping struggling Immigrants,but MY CITY (Los Angeles) ISNT TAKING CARE OF ITS OWN.WHAT ABOUT THE 50,000+🇺🇸Citizens WHO LIVE ON THE STREETS.PPL WHO LIVE BELOW POVERTY LINE,& HUNGRY? If My State Can’t Take Care of Its Own(Many Are VETS)How Can it Take Care Of More
    4:14 AM · Apr 15, 2019”

    I thought Cher had moved to Canada.

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Shamima Begum is on legal aid despite being stripped of UK citizenship: Fury as jihodi bride’s legal fees are paid by taxpayers

    From the “Daily Mail.”

  32. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #2988162, posted on April 15, 2019 at 12:49 pm

    What is this “my city” Cher speaks of? Didn’t she tweet that from Canada?

    She promised to move there in 2016 if Trump won the presidency.

    Steady on.
    She’s got a lot of fishnets and g-strings to pack.

  33. Fisky

    TWO upper house seats for One Nation and 2 Shooters. Great election!

  34. twostix

    TWO upper house seats for One Nation and 2 Shooters. Great election!

    Is that a net gain for non-leftwing forces or the same?

  35. Mother Lode

    However out of step with contemporary mores, many Christians, as well as followers of other faiths, hold similar views.

    I suspect the Oz might be misreading the spirit of the times – which would explain some of their editorial decisions of late.

    People who are not religious would take Folau’s words as just part of the quirkiness of the devout. People who do not believe in Christianity (or whatever) are accustomed to dismissing its expressions, and there is no doubt that people already have stereotypes of holy rollers.

    Nuances such as ‘condemn the sin but not the sinner’ are not that well known but people still do not feel threatened. Why should they? Everybody knows one, usually in their own family, usually as part of their upbringing.

    The Paywallian article seems to me to assume that most people are of a rigid secular persuasion. I suspect most people who are not religious do not energetically draw a line between them and it. People don’t feel they have to take a side any more than they do about football codes.

    While the religious are characterised by a strength of feeling, few people have a strong feeling against religion – they are better understood in terms of lacking a strong feeling.

  36. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Animal Justice are vegan greenies wanting to destroy your pets and force you to eat offal made from insect droppings instead of meat; their justice for cows is extinction due to their methane farts.

    Animal justice is so Orwellian. They are anti-animal. No justice for animals they don’t like and no farming of animals for food; until then they will regulate farming animals into the uneconomic stratosphere to lower the numbers. They want to get rid of Fido, Felix and Daisy the Cow and eventually select out non-compliant humans too. Methane is the new CO2, dontcha know? That they even have Upper House representation is a scandal.

    They are NOT the party of fluffy kitties and cute Koalas that so many think they are voting for.

  37. Mother Lode

    Rees-Mogg’s BLISTERING attack on ‘foolish’ Lammy after he compares Brexiteers to NAZIS

    It is a little known fact that the Nazis were dedicated to keeping Britain independent of Europe.

    Most people have completely understood that the Blitz was just an unfortunately prolonged period persistent navigational errors.

  38. Fisky

    Twostix – mostly at the expense of the Libs. And the LDP who just missed out on the last seat.

  39. struth

    I thought Cher had moved to Canada.

    She wanted to but many people don’t realise, she’s still suction cupped to the USS Missouri

  40. Steve trickler

    I know little about this Erikson bloke. I’ll soon find out.

    This jab at the Greens was a delight to watch. And look where they set up shop.

    At the front of Centrelink.



  41. Percy Popinjay

    NSW upper house: One Nation picks up second seat, Leyonhjelm misses out

    Yet here he was recently, busily and smugly counting those li’l chickies before they’d actually hatched.

    Gloating will invariably cause people to come a cropper. A mighty political career birthed by donkey votes and mistaken identity, subsequently spent furiously flailing about at the far edges of relevance has come to a long overdue end.

    Too bad, so sad. Now go away, you hopeless weirdo.

  42. Habib

    In an encouraging trend to emerge from the first Newspoll of the campaign, support for minor parties is in decline.

    The Ediot of the Oz thinks increased support for the diarchy is a good thing. No wonder I binned my sub a year ago. In any decent, sensible society the only support they’d muster between them would be their pale, pudgy carcasses being lifted into the sling of a trebuchet, to be launched into an enclosure teeming with ravenous razorbacks.

  43. Leigh Lowe

    Gloating will invariably cause people to come a cropper. A mighty political career birthed by donkey votes and mistaken identity, subsequently spent furiously flailing about at the far edges of relevance has come to a long overdue end.

    Too bad, so sad. Now go away, you hopeless weirdo.

    Yes, just a little too much smug superiority, and picked a lot of the wrong fights for the sole purpose of inflating his profile.

  44. I drew attention recently to the Spectator article on how extreme left pamphlets and ‘teaching aids’ are being sent to 78,000 teachers by Get Up and similar funded outfits, and what is more they are being widely used in schools to teach about ‘climate change’, and veganism as a way to contribute to halting this chimeric nonsense.

    Suggest you widen your reading beyond Rightist drivel in the Spectator.
    These “extreme left pamphlets”, if they are indeed being widely distributed (which I doubt, as they’re not anywhere to be seen in the Queensland schools that I frequent) could not be used in any instructional setting unless they’re approved by ACARA.
    Your ignorance of school curriculum content, and how it is derived, is stark.

    Veganism is an evil ideology with some very bad effects both economically and personally if taken seriously. Face it, Numbers. Dump veganism. And vaccinate your kids too (although I bet you did that because you are not a complete dunce).

    Veganism is not an “ideology”. It’s a dietary choice. It’s amazing how those frequenting an allegedly Libertarian blog have the arrogance to tell others how they should live, to the point of telling them what they should eat.
    I’m certainly not vegan, but one of my daughters is. Her general health has improved since she’s been strict with it, probably because she takes much more care of her diet than in here pre-vegan days. Unlike some posting here, she doesn’t presume to tell everyone else what they should be eating.

    Anti-Vaxers are almost exclusively of the Right. Nuff said….

  45. Percy Popinjay

    Fury as ji-hadi bride’s legal fees are paid by taxpayers

    I had a comment posted on the Oz about about six weeks ago predicting that slag would end up costing English taxpayers a fortune in legal fees in fruitless efforts to keep to her out.

  46. zyconoclast

    NSFW

    ‘Broad City’ And ‘Crazy Ex-GF’ Taught J00wish Women To Embrace S3x, Drugs, And Imperfection

    She should have a big butt and give good bl0w jobs. She should tame her curls, cross her legs, get her degrees, keep her maiden name but give her husbands’ name to the kids. She should subjugate her personality to the needs of her children. She should volunteer at the synagogue. She should always carry hand sanitizer and breath mints and tissues. She should take cabs late at night. She should be elegant. She should always be feeding, and never be eating.

    Nope, said “Broad City,” the Comedy Central buddy comedy show that came to an end this month.

    She can be a hairy slacker with no marriage prospects and a passion for human feces, said Broad City.

    She can be an artist-cvm-janitor who only owns one outfit and smokes on the t0ilet. She can be irresponsible, and unambitious, and ill-kempt, creators and stars Abbi Jacobson and Ilana Glazer argued. She can “look J00wish” or not. She can be attracted to different s3xes and genders.

    How should a J00wish woman be?

    She can be a hairy slacker with no marriage prospects and a passion for human f3ces, said Broad City.

  47. The Ediot of the Oz thinks increased support for the diarchy is a good thing. No wonder I binned my sub a year ago.

    So the Oz reports the result of a poll, and is condemned for editorializing about it.
    Only on the Cat…..

  48. Ellen of Tasmania

    Struth,

    I remember when I used to listen to Bolt/Price, they’d cut anyone off who brought up ‘Agenda 21’ with a, “we don’t want any of that conspiracy nonsense” sort of comment.

    With all the information available on the UN’s own websites. How secret can you get?

    (‘Conspiracy theory’ is just another shut-up term.)

  49. Fred

    The law should require all political candidates to maintain a home in the electorate they nominate for.

    So what if Hopalong Cassidy can’t find a home in Dutton’s electorate.

    Perhaps she should run in the electorate that she lives!

  50. zyconoclast

    sorry for the poor edit on a previous post

  51. Struth:
    Numbers…

    The mistake the Americans made (and we followed) was applying a global perspective to a local conflict.
    You’re making the same mistake.

    Struth…

    Always the dick head communist.
    This dunderhead couldn’t lie straight in bed.

    The idiocy of this character continues to astound me.
    The theme song for his Big Brother State is “The Internationale” and even that’s not enough of a clue for him.

  52. struth

    Veganism is not an “ideology”. It’s a dietary choice. It’s amazing how those frequenting an allegedly Libertarian blog have the arrogance to tell others how they should live, to the point of telling them what they should eat.

    As I said earlier, if we said he’d actually say something this lacking in self awareness, people wouldn’t believe it.
    That’s why we need them to keep talking, …………..to general folk, it’s sort of one of those times you are stunned into silence……..and may become increasingly disparaging about the world if fuckwits like this can vote, but we need to understand they are out there.

  53. Habib

    So the Oz reports the result of a poll, and is condemned for editorializing about it.
    Only on the Cat…..
    Comprehension’s not your strong point, is it?

    They can editorialise about anything they choose, if however they see increased support for the two truly appalling major political parties in this swamp as beneficial, they will rightly be regarded as complete twats. Our only hope is that the senate is brimful of completely barking time-wasters, so hopefully little legislation gets passed. If not we’re more rooted than a curtain fig.

  54. Percy Popinjay

    their pale, pudgy carcasses being lifted into the sling of a trebuchet, to be launched into an enclosure teeming with ravenous razorbacks

    Magnificent image, Habib.

  55. ZK2A:

    He also believes Australia runs “refugee concentration camps” and that “it is our ­differences that make us beautiful”.
    This does not apply, however, if those differences involve voting for the “empty liberal populism of the ALP” or the “conservative, backward LNP”.

    Score: 5.9

    But he got a 9.9 from the East German Judges…

  56. struth

    Who was it that said SNIFFY was not dumb just evil.

    They can, and usually are, both.

  57. zyconoclast

    Overkill: Gov’t Officials Deploy 700 Police, Spend $3 Million to Lockdown City Only to Arrest Disabled Veteran for Buying Canned Iced Tea, Bug Spray

    April 12, 2019

    CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — Denouncing a Virginia town’s draconian lockdown measures as a clear example of a dysfunctional, excessive government that overreaches, overspends, and is out of sync with the Constitution, The Rutherford Institute has asked a federal court to hold government officials responsible for adopting costly security protocols lacking in common sense and intended to chill First Amendment activity.

    The Rutherford Institute’s actions come in response to a motion filed by the City of Charlottesville to dismiss a Fourth Amendment lawsuit against the City over its August 2018 “state of emergency” lockdown measures. In accordance with the emergency declaration, local, state and federal law enforcement agencies locked down portions of the small college town, deployed 700 police officers—many in riot gear—to patrol portions of the downtown area, restricted the free movement of persons on public streets, and imposed a broad ban on innocuous items such as metal food and beverage containers, aerosol sprays, glass bottles, skateboards, masks and hoods. The Institute’s lawsuit arose after police swarmed a disabled war veteran and arrested him for lawfully purchasing canned iced tea, bug spray, lightbulbs and razor blades, which were banned as part of the city’s pre-emptive measures to discourage civil unrest, all the while allowing him to carry two firearms—which were not among the city’s prohibited items—through a security checkpoint.

  58. “Anti-Vaxers are almost exclusively of the Right. Nuff said….”

    Really Scumbers? So how do you explain the fact that Byron Bay has some of the lowest vaccination rates in the country….I suppose Byron Bay is now riddled with right-wing people….that must explain why the Greens have just won a state seat in the area where Byron Bay is.

    You are such a cretin and your cretinism is getting worse.

    Oh and have you worked out the difference between a vulva and vagina yet?

  59. Mother Lode

    Having seen the new Vic government ad about not hassling, er, women,

    New posters I have been seeing around are about cyber-bullying, claiming that one in three girls are cyber-bullied.

    First thing that crossed my mind is that I will bet it is other girls who do it. And indeed the ad does feature a picture of slightly anxious looking but thoroughly disarming specimen. If they were to blame boys they would show sociopathic boys delighting in their cruelty. (Like the posters about domestic abuse which only showed men with very transparent justifications that we were meant to ‘boo-hiss’. Also white. Natch.)

    But one in three? This would mean you would be hard pressed to live your life without hearing about it from other girls, and it would be a pretty damning thing if girls were so indifferent. My nieces would never be so complacent, and they would certainly be distressed if they saw something so cruel and rampant.

    I have a suspicion we are back in the realm of tendentious surveying. Questions like ‘Have you ever received, or been the subject of, an email or other electronic broadcast, transmission, or communication, that made you feel uncomfortable?”

    I also suspect that one netball team slagging off their opponents counts as seven instances of cyber-bullying, and when the other team responds there are seven more.

    But the real threat? Out there somewhere is someone just itching for a funded pulpit to abuse, harangue and hector everyone else for these illusory injustices. Some aching need, some weeping wound in their soul, some instinct to lash out in the same way people are angry at a chair when they stub their toe.

    Someone who needs treatment.

    The patient gets to be the doctor.

  60. thefrollickingmole

    Hmmm who to believe, The Vegan Society or numbers the mirror man?

    Veganism is not an “ideology”

    https://www.vegansociety.com/whats-new/blog/how-veganism-relates-other-ideologies

    Veganism is essentially the belief that it’s wrong to exploit animals for human gain. As a result, vegans boycott products containing animal-derived ingredients, along with products tested on animals and activities which treat animals as entertainment.
    Given this definition, it seems clear that veganism is an animal rights movement. But in recent years, the environmental impact of rearing animals for food has been widely acknowledged. For this reason, many people now say they have gone vegan for environmental reasons.

    Some argue that this isn’t true veganism, since veganism is inherently about animal rights. But those who subscribe to this point of view are overlooking the harm done to animals by environmental destruction. When animal agriculture destroys the habitats of wild animals, they suffer and die in their droves. From this perspective, environmentalism is a logical extension of veganism.

    This illustrates an important point – many movements and ideologies intersect with and overlap each other. Veganism is no exception, and it intersects with a number of other movements. Here are some examples.

    and psychologists..
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/without-prejudice/201809/meat-eating-and-political-ideology
    The story gets all the more interesting when you look at ideological differences. Among liberals, 11 percent are vegetarian, but only 2 percent of conservatives are vegetarians. (see Figure below). This is a staggering difference, with liberals 5.5 times more likely to be vegetarian compared to conservatives.

    A similar difference is observed for vegans: liberals are 2.5 times more likely to be vegan than are conservatives (see Figure).

    Obviously, political ideology is a very strong predictor of meat consumption.

  61. bespoke

    He’s good muse struth but I do feel a tad sorry for him ending up a low energy troll.

  62. thefrollickingmole

    We’ve already dealt with the ani-vax rake mirror man.
    https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2018/06/anti-vaccine-movement-embraced-extremes-political-spectrumstudy-finds/
    People at extreme ends of the political spectrum are most warmly embracing the anti-vaccination movement in the United States, with certain very liberal cities and very conservative rural communities reporting the nation’s highest rates of nonmedical exemptions (NMEs), according to a new study.

  63. Steve trickler

    Erikson makes his point getting arrested, but there is no need for it.

    I’M A VEGAN!! A VEGAN!!

    Vic Pol on show again.

  64. struth

    Struth,

    I remember when I used to listen to Bolt/Price, they’d cut anyone off who brought up ‘Agenda 21’ with a, “we don’t want any of that conspiracy nonsense” sort of comment.

    With all the information available on the UN’s own websites. How secret can you get?

    (‘Conspiracy theory’ is just another shut-up term.)

    And it’s a step too far to suggest a National Socialist who governed as a socialist would indeed be a socialist, just like the Jooo hating, totalitarian scum on the left today!

    Bolta and others still aren’t game to go there, such is the power of the left in the industry they work in.

    The facts are obvious, the left have nothing when challenged on it, and it’s unarguable, but indeed , just like climate change, even after all these years of rain falling by the Flanneries on the East coast, the world still here even though it was supposed to end b no late than 2005, some on the right are still aguing about emission levels instead of just calling BULLSHIT very loudly.

    It’s done and dusted, there is no climate catastrophe, there’s nothing …it’s over, this has been a socialist propaganda attack on the west since last century, and now they will invent some other doomsday scenario that onlyy global socialism can prevent.

    Hitler was a socialist.
    It needs to be said loud and often.
    Man made Climate Change is pure socialist propaganda and a war on the west.
    It needs to be said loud and often.
    Nobody gave any of our politicians the go ahead to sign us up to the UN’s socialist destruction of Australia, and Sco Mo thinking that keeping us in it, so we don’t look like a bad world citizen is a bunch a treasonous bullshit.

    It’s torch and pitchfork time.

  65. notafan

    Sounds like an ideology to me

    Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose

    .Veganism, what does the Vegan Society say

  66. notafan

    No wool no fur no leather no Tim Tams

  67. Dr Faustus

    The Victorian Soviet reaches out with an Iron Fist to crush the outdated, bourgeois concepts of ‘open trial’ and ‘free press’:

    Thirty-six media outlets, editors and journalists, including staff at The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald, could face prison over allegations they breached a suppression order in reports published after Cardinal George Pell was convicted of child sex abuse charges.

    The Office of Public Prosecutions alleges the media organisations and individuals prejudiced and interfered with “due administration of justice in the prosecution of Pell”, “aided and abetted overseas media’s contempt”, and that their publishing “had the effect of scandalising the court”.

    Defence Counsel, Matthew Collins QC, points out a few problems with the administration of justice:

    Dr Collins, who is the president of the Victorian Bar, argued the offence of scandalising the court was “unknown to the law”.

    He told the court none of the publications or broadcasters either named Cardinal Pell or identified the charges of which he was found guilty.

    He also argued the OPP had not laid out specific allegations against the many journalists involved and could not show how they allegedly aided and abetted overseas media.

    Watch with interest and contempt.

  68. struth

    New posters I have been seeing around are about cyber-bullying, claiming that one in three girls are cyber-bullied.

    I think the real concern should be the lives the are taking swerving all over the road while being cyber bullied…..fmd.

    Girls, put the social media down…………………….get your eyes back on the road.

    If we can have advertisements telling boys they have small dicks for doing burnouts courtesy of our taxes, maybe we can have one for girls who nowadays smash cars and walk into poles due to their social media addiction.

  69. Leigh Lowe

    Really Scumbers? So how do you explain the fact that Byron Bay has some of the lowest vaccination rates in the country….I suppose Byron Bay is now riddled with right-wing people….that must explain why the Greens have just won a state seat in the area where Byron Bay is.

    The inverse correlation between the green vote and the rate of childhood vaccination is rock solid.
    There were several outbreaks of measles at schools in Brunswick and Coburg in the last 12 – 18 months.
    The other big hot-spot was hippie central of Eltham, where there were outbreaks of measles and whooping cough, but recorded vaccination rates weren’t noticeably lower.
    How can this be?
    Until they discovered a doctor who was busily signing off vaccination records so that the kiddies could access gummint benefits, but not administering the vaccines.
    Both rock-solid green constituencies.
    Of course, when the outbreak happens, the parents start bleating about “cuts to health care” as a cause.

  70. The idiocy of this character continues to astound me.

    So the American occupation and ultimate defeat in Vietnam was an astounding success?
    You’re re-writing history, and my posting fact is a “lie”?
    Black is white – up is down – 1 + 1 = 3.
    Only on the Cat….

  71. Dr Faustus

    Clive Palmer agrees to pay laid off Queensland Nickel workers

    Clive Palmer says he will pay any outstanding entitlements for workers laid off from his Townsville nickel refinery, three years after they lost their jobs.

    The announcement comes as Mr Palmer stages a potential political comeback.

    He is waiting to find out if his own United Australia Party will pick him as its candidate for the Townsville seat of Herbert, currently held by Labor incumbent Cathy O’Toole by 37 votes.

    His bum must be twitching like a rabbit’s nose with nervous anticipation of that decision.

  72. Buccaneer

    Rates in inner Sydney were even lower than Byron Bay (73.2 per cent) — renowned for being an area resistant to vaccination.

    Why would you even write something so wrong about anti vaxxers when it’s so easy to find the information on line?

  73. Habib

    When did the US occupy the RSVN, and when was it defeated? Fantasies are not facts.

  74. Speedbox

    Agenda 2030

    On behalf of the peoples we serve, we have adopted a historic decision on a comprehensive, far-reaching and people-centred set of universal and transformative Goals and targets.

    So, it’s “On behalf of the peoples we serve” but throughout the document it refers to “we commit”, “far-reaching”, “world changing”, “unprecedented” and so on. Vast wholesale changes ‘committed to’ by people who ‘serve us’ without referral to those whom they ‘serve’.

    Separately, I’ve been looking at other UN ‘international agreements’ and either it is deliberately obscure with assorted Divisions creating almost endless subsidiary bodies who have created a labyrinth of Working Groups and committees or, is so poorly planned and executed that it is effectively, out of control. Both answers are probably correct.

  75. struth

    So the American occupation and ultimate defeat in Vietnam was an astounding success?

    What should have they done, SNIFFY?
    If I get the local Gypsy Jokers to invade your house, should we just let them stay there and piss inya pot plants, and bitch slap your mamma?

    Vietnam was the first war the yanks shackled themselves with.
    They should have nuked the North in my opinion.
    Any day killing a commie is a good day.

  76. Why would you even write something so wrong about anti vaxxers when it’s so easy to find the information on line?

    Yep – very easy.

  77. Old Lefty

    Mr Collins QC, president of the Victorian bar, also said the case against Pell was highly dubious, as I recall. He’ll have to await a change of government if he ever wants to be on the bench. But then, knowing the Dandy Nongs who dominate the Victorian Liberals …..

  78. notafan

    You are right LL

    anti vax, anti fluoride anti smart meter

    All obsessions held by local green voters who assume I am one with them and their thinking

  79. notafan

    The HPV vaccine is unlike other vaccines in that it is directly related to transmittable sexual diseases,

    Numbers does it again

    Conservatives don’t like giving them children HPV vaccine which makes them ‘anti vaxxers’

  80. Stimpson J. Cat

    New posters I have been seeing around are about cyber-bullying, claiming that one in three girls are cyber-bullied.

    This is 1000.9957% true.

    Look at any group of more than two Women and they will immediately form an alliance to destroy the others.
    If there is no Woman to destroy they will settle for a Man, or Men’s Shed or Male Institution.

    Don’t believe me?
    Who do Transgenders entering Women’s sport try so hard to emulate?
    You think it’s coincidence?

    This is facts people, and they don’t care about your feelings.

    😁

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    Bob,

    Be a dear and pop out for a bit. See if you can find that report you said you had. You know, the report that said I#raeli soldiers make pregnant Pali scags drink bleach.

    Lock and load, big boy. Take your pills before you go.

  82. struth

    And SNIFFY links to a communist eco loon.

  83. Stimpson J. Cat

    His bum must be twitching like a rabbit’s nose with nervous anticipation of that decision.

    This is a truly horrific image to implant in my innocent young impressionable mind.
    You should be banned.

  84. Overburdened

    Having spent the time to look at the policies and commentary re the fed election from the left and right sided online sites and studiously read the Australian which appears on balance to be gently barracking for the alp, I think that if the alp wins the poll

    Australians are even more stupid than I have been led to believe

    There will be no coming back to a central let alone conservative political position for a major party

    It won’t matter if you have enough money, but the amount required will go up

    The whole show will disintegrate in flames

    I also think that palmers party and a slew of independents will do better than expected, hastening the demise.

  85. TFM:
    (From the old fred:)

    Wonder how many ex army/ current alphabet agency blokes will set off a ping to Beijing if they hover around Darwin?

    How about we start testing it?
    You know, like the Spetsnaz boys used to do with the airfield security around nuke bases in the UK with the Peace Protesters in the eighties?

  86. When did the US occupy the RSVN.

    From March 8, 1965 (First Marines land in Danang) until March 29, 1973 (Last U.S. combat troops leave South Vietnam). That was a total of 8 years. There were 549500 troops in the country in 1968 at the peak of the US occupation.

    and when was it defeated

    Saigon fell on 30 April 1975.

    Fantasies are not facts.

    You can say that again.

  87. Mark A

    1735099
    #2988186, posted on April 15, 2019 at 1:24 pm

    Nuff said….

    I wish you’d stick to that.

  88. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Saigon fell on 30 April 1975.

    After the Americans withdrew, the North Vietnamese tore up the Paris Peace Accords, and launched a conventional invasion?

  89. Knuckle Dragger:

    Ladies, the fluffy chickens you let out of the pen years ago are now parasite-ridden, ungainly stinking vultures, and they’re coming home to roost. It’s great comedy value to hear the constant public moaning by women, particularly the stringers for the major networks complaining about the absence of men, and that ‘the good ones are either taken or gay’.

    Ta.
    I LOL’d.

  90. Knuckle Dragger:

    Interesting to note as well that the NT government decided not to tell everyone else they’d leased the entire Port of Darwin to the Chinese for 99 years until well after the ink was dry on the contract.

    I was utterly unaware of that aspect – do you have a link so I can make use of it?

  91. Knuckle Dragger

    Zulu,

    Don’t ask him that – he won’t know.

    By then he’d packed up his combat projectionist’s kit and was back here bitching about how unlucky he was, and herding spastics.

  92. struth

    Everything must be done by 2030.

    They have brainwashed our kids.
    They have brainwashed their parents.
    They have banned power generation only in the west.
    They have forced upon us the cultures who would be the most differing and ones that would refuse to assimilate.
    They have told them they do not need to assimilate.
    They want our borders down, but only in the west.
    They have worked at dissolving property ownership.
    They actively try to take sovereign control of national government decision, like immigration numbers, just recently.
    They do not let us fish, dam water and irrigate, build new infrastructure or mines, and now they come for our meat and food generally.
    They purposefully corrupt our culture and seek to measure their control by proclaiming the most absurd lies such as their are more than two sexes and see if we push back.

    Who are they?
    Some of them are our own countrymen, but they , nonetheless are UN officials and bureaucrats, unelected socialist scum, enforcing everywhere agenda 2030…..and again, we pay them to do it.

    Who ever will not release us from the clutches of these socialists, cannot be given your vote.
    I believe your question to your local member and is where they stand on this ultimately important question..
    Will you intoduce a bill for Australia to leave the UN?
    Your vote depends on it.

  93. Knuckle Dragger

    Winston,

    I don’t have one off the top of my head, but it’s very easily found on the interwebs. NT Govt press releases will have copious details of their wilful stupidity.

    Now the same govt’s dead stone broke despite the rivers of lease cash flowing in. God only knows what they’ve done with it.

  94. Notafan:

    My Maxda CX5 internal lady does a wonderful job telling me about speed limits and red light cameras in a timely fashion.
    She doesn’t keep up with school holidays but none of us are perfect.

    My Navman tried to do that – I quickly found the STFU option.

    On a more serious note, has anyone else noted the profusion of gadgets that are supposed to make driving easier? I’m starting to become very aware of ‘cockpit overload’ – a concept that has been shown to be increasingly relevant to airline safety. Not sure that a HUD is a good idea, considering the brainless that are given licenses these days.

  95. Overburdened

    The frolicking mole

    Vegans essentially believe animals should not be exploited for human gain.

    I wonder what vegans think humans are then.

    Minerals or vegetables, or some hitherto unidentified life form?

    A contrarian could argue that the vegan position is somewhat like religion that sees humans as separate from the rest of the animals.

  96. Overburdened

    Being an outdoorsman, I can say that animals show no deference to humans in the natural environment.

    Choosing your diet as a lifestyle or conscience choice is a sign of privilege.

    When you are hungry enough you will eat anything, based on my own experience and observations of people in dire straits.

  97. Stimpson J. Cat

    Now a lot of people say to me,
    “Stimpy, why are you hard on the Women’s and their sports all the time? ”

    And I say, not true I love the Women’s sport.
    Particularly the Pole Vault.
    It’s incredibly inspiring watching these dedicated athletes.

  98. Speedbox

    107 years ago today the Titanic sank.

  99. notafan

    Winston

    very rarely use the inbuilt navigation system but the odd occasion she pipes up to say that I am over the speed limit is pretty handy

  100. Habib

    When did the US occupy the RSVN.

    From March 8, 1965 (First Marines land in Danang) until March 29, 1973 (Last U.S. combat troops leave South Vietnam). That was a total of 8 years. There were 549500 troops in the country in 1968 at the peak of the US occupation. So the marines stationed in Darwin are in fact an occupying force? I’ll be buggered, I thought they were invited. Bloody Yanks, invading all over the shop.

    and when was it defeated

    Saigon fell on 30 April 1975. 3 years after the US pulled out, except for embassy defence details. The NVA were thoroughly routed in the field in every engagement, the Tet Offensive finished the Viet Cong as an effective force. The ARVN actually put up a pretty good fight ’72-’75, and could probably have held the NVA had the treacherous swine democrats not cut their aid in congress.

    Fantasies are not facts.

    You can say that again. I will. Your wished for glorious victory of the peasant proletariat in SE Asia never happened. A cadre of commie despots took over, murdered a heap of people, croaked the economy and starved a heap more, then at least were pragmatic enough to permit a small amount of market reality to enter their bamboo concentration camp.

  101. destroyer D69

    My Question to ABC Q&A for all the panelists. Thundering silence as a response so far. Question to Q&A
    if you accept that all options of how to cast a formal vote in the senate is a democratic right. please comment on the fact that a practice senate vote marked on the AEC website,in accordance with the provisions of Secs 268A or 269 pf the Electoral Act(formal votes below and above the line respectively)will result in an informal vote response. This error is confirmed by the AEC but they refuse to advise voters of this option or correct the marking of practice votes on their site. This must reduce the validity of the election result as a reflection of the true wishes of the electorate.

  102. dover_beach

    Don’t no what your on about, dover. Cheers anyway.

    I’m not surprised, you have a habit of jumping in and then getting things wrong.

  103. Habib

    The serious commies next door though went full Year Zero, a fantasy of every true believer. Oddly enough a lot of the leadership were bloody chalkies. Again.

  104. stackja

    I have just received a copy of: Conscripts and Regulars. With the Seventh Battalion in Vietnam.
    O’Brien, Michael. Published by Allen & Unwin in Association with Seventh Battalion The Royal Australian Regiment Association, Sydney (1995) ISBN 10: 186373967X ISBN 13: 9781863739672
    I must look for what events happened for those that served from 16 Feb 1970 to 10 Dec 1970.

  105. Knuckle Dragger

    Winston,

    I’m a strong believer that the proliferation of these devices in motor vehicles actually reduces your basic ability to drive – and more importantly, to get out of trouble while you’re behind the wheel.

    I refuse to use cruise control because it takes away the sense of being in control of the motor vehicle. If you can’t control your speed you shouldn’t have a licence. Additionally, cruise control takes no notice of direction, so you go around bends at the same speed as on the straight. You average muppets realises this too late, and ends up braking right through the corner, which is obviously fraught with danger compared to using controlled power.

    GPS, voice-assisted or not is a recipe for disaster. Look at a map before you start, work out where you need to go, and get there. If you can’t read a map you shouldn’t be within 100 metres of a steering wheel.

    Reversing cameras I sort of get, if only for the idea that they might help you running over toddlers in your own driveway. Still, if you can’t control toddlers around you, don’t reverse anywhere.

    As younger men, we used to go down to Little Bourke Street to watch the Asian folk try and parallel park. It’s not folklore or a myth. Having a car that does that for you takes away an essential skill in terms of spatial orientation.

    We’re doing ourselves no favours by putting people in cars that do the driving for them. They are naturally then unprepared for the unusual, which will always happen on roads, and will thus not have the experience-based skills to save their own lives and their passengers.

    This all started with automatic transmissions. Unless you have only one leg, they should be banned, seized, crushed and sent to Texas at an exorbitant profit to help Build The Wall.

  106. Buccaneer

    1735099

    #2988225, posted on April 15, 2019 at 2:05 pm

    Why would you even write something so wrong about anti vaxxers when it’s so easy to find the information on line?

    Yep – very easy.

    Did you even bother to look at the study that was quoted in the article you linked? Did you realise that they only examined states that have non medical exemptions for vaccines? Did you notice the article drew numbers for only the HPV vaccine and then used them to extrapolate those for the author’s partisan purpose? Did you bother to look at the article I liked from the ABC that suggests the complete opposite in Australia?

  107. notafan

    Navigation systems are great in foreign countries which have complicated freeway systems, except when it tells you to exit at bridges that are closed because the middle span is currently missing.

    Then you are glad you use your eyes as well.

  108. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh, Winston.

    The NT dickheads also signed off on the Chinese lease of the port

    without

    telling

    Canberra.

    Apparently the Feds weren’t too pleased, and rightly so. Might assist in your search.

  109. OldOzzie

    Winston Smith
    #2988248, posted on April 15, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    Notafan:

    My Maxda CX5 internal lady does a wonderful job telling me about speed limits and red light cameras in a timely fashion.
    She doesn’t keep up with school holidays but none of us are perfect.

    My Navman tried to do that – I quickly found the STFU option.

    On a more serious note, has anyone else noted the profusion of gadgets that are supposed to make driving easier? I’m starting to become very aware of ‘cockpit overload’ – a concept that has been shown to be increasingly relevant to airline safety. Not sure that a HUD is a good idea, considering the brainless that are given licenses these days.

    Winston,

    I don’t use the HUD. as the specific reason I purchased the Polaris GPS Speedometer was because I did not want to use the HUD capability but I find incredible useful having its big bright digital speed display on the unit (as you can see in this picture), not using HUD, in easy vision at the bottom of the windscreen which means I don’t have to keep looking down at the Speedo to check what speed I am doing, and the added bonus of a crsip clear voice advising on red light/speed cameras which has been very accurate – worth have when not wanting to run Nav Software – worth every penny of the $119-$129.

  110. bespoke

    I’m not surprised, you have a habit of jumping in and then getting things wrong.

    That’s true Dover, I’m not blessed with knowing every thing like you are. But I’m not ready to join the needy cheer squad just yet.

  111. calli

    No wool no fur no leather no Tim Tams

    They do understand the monstrous environmental cost of cotton textiles, don’t they?

    No. Thought not.

    But it’s a dietry choice, right?

  112. Be a dear and pop out for a bit. See if you can find that report you said you had. You know, the report that said I#raeli soldiers make pregnant Pali scags drink bleach.

    You are lying.
    Show me where I posted that I had a report about “bleach”.
    Apologise when you can’t.
    Then read these reports.
    They’re from the US State Department.

  113. bespoke

    # No you misunderstood.
    # OK why?
    # This is why.
    # Cheers thanks!

  114. dover_beach

    That’s true Dover, I’m not blessed with knowing every thing like you are. But I’m not ready to join the needy cheer squad just yet.

    I don’t opine on many things, Bespoke, but I know when I’m right. BTW, what is in the ‘needy cheer squad’ and why would making errors mean you are not a member of it?

  115. Ellie

    I have an automatic car, KD.
    Learnt to drive in a manual though.
    Was overseas recently. I inadvertently hired a manual car. Hadn’t driven one for years.
    Like riding a bike, I told myself.
    Going through the gears was fine. It’s when I came to a set of lights on a hill, I realised how rusty I was. Cars lined up behind me beeping, I skidded off, screeching, burnt some rubber on that trip.

  116. Mother Lode

    Australians are even more stupid than I have been led to believe

    The erosion of freedoms has occurred at a generational pace – each one losing a little at a time, no one growing up having experienced what there was before, and in fact grateful for the ‘security’ the all-pervading state supplies.

    They are kept afraid and anxious, and are at the same time encouraged to the idea that their forebears were benightedly ignorant and shallow – anathema to what they see to be their own virtues.

    However, what happens in pop-culture resonates. What comes from America when she is confident and wealthy can cause people to ask “Well, I want some of that.”

    Hollywood does not produce the films that engender a desire to enjoy life, Netflix is emulating Hollywood to steal their market (new technology with bog-standard product), and contemporary music promotes a crude hedonism in sync with a secular society that people feel they themselves are not in sync with.

    Compare the feeling of the first Star Wars movie with the last.

    Eventually Hollywood is going to have to start trying to make money again, and there is a new energy in America. We may well benefit from that.

  117. Elle

    I have an automatic car, KD.
    Learnt to drive in a manual though.
    Was overseas recently. I inadvertently hired a manual car. Hadn’t driven one for years.
    Like riding a bike, I told myself.
    Going through the gears was fine. It’s when I came to a set of lights on a hill, I realised how rusty I was. Cars lined up behind me beeping, I skidded off, screeching, burnt some rubber on that trip.

  118. Elle

    Just tried to post that using a new name. Went into moderation. Arky, how did you change your name?

  119. stackja

    Reading Conscripts and Regulars. Soldiers were inoculated. No anti-vaxers?

  120. calli

    The fact that we’re up to Star Wars #9 tells you all you need to know about the ruin that was once Hollywood.

  121. Nukkel Dragger:

    The NT dickheads also signed off on the Chinese lease of the port

    Thanks for that – I’d known about the sales, but not the secrecy parts of it. Perhaps it’s worthwhile seeing how commonly the states have usurped Federal Government powers by these agreements.
    I saw, en passant, but can’t find it again, the referral to ‘ancient trading patterns’ and while it took a couple of pages, it jarred with me.
    The Chinese are very fond of using this terminology in regards to ownership claims. So I wouldn’t be surprised to see an ‘ancient manuscript’ be unearthed to justify their ownership of trade routes that just coincidentally run through several South Pacific islands.

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    Not lying, Bob.

    You said the matters lied about by Labor MP Melissa Parke were true.

    Then you produced a report that said nothing of the sort.

    Then you were called out on it.

    Then, in traditional fashion, you ran off.

    Now, please. The report where it says I#raeli. Soldiers. Made. Pregnant. Pali. Scags. Drink. Bleach.

    It’s your allegation, not mine. Then, when you’re done, some clarity on:

    Locked and loaded SLRs (you haven’t been about for this one, Habib. You’ll love this);
    Vulva;
    Ergot; and
    Majuro for a start. You have zero credibility.

  123. Mark A

    bespoke
    #2988269, posted on April 15, 2019 at 3:03 pm

    I’m not surprised, you have a habit of jumping in and then getting things wrong.

    That’s true Dover, I’m not blessed with knowing every thing like you are. But I’m not ready to join the needy cheer squad just yet.

    Bless you my son.

  124. C.L.

    Collusion:

    Donald J. [email protected]

    Chinese Telecom Giant Huawei hires former Obama Cyber Security Official as a lobbyist. This is not good, or acceptable!

  125. Mark A

    1735099
    #2988271, posted on April 15, 2019 at 3:09 pm

    You are lying.
    Show me where I posted that I had a report about “bleach”

    The why claim it happened?
    Not trying to fib were you?

  126. notafan

    Omitted from the report was the February 26, 2016 killing of Mahmoud Shaalan, a 16-year-old who held U.S. citizenship. Israeli soldiers shot and killed Mahmoud as he allegedly attempted to stab them at a military checkpoint near Beit El settlement, north of the West Bank city of Ramallah

    Right in the middle of the knife intifada

    You should be condemning Palestine for sending out children as suicide bombers and general terrorists

    but you cannot

    Even Amnesty admits it is a problem

    Child suicide bombers in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict

  127. calli

    Yes.

    The issue was brought to world attention after a widely televised incident in which a mentally handicapped Palestinian teenager, Hussam Abdo, was disarmed at an Israeli checkpoint.

    That poor child. Expendable to all but the brave IDF guys who disarmed him.

    Evil incarnate.

  128. notafan

    Numbers is a prog so that means when it turns out a fact is actually a lie it’s still very very important because something else completely different happened and the lie still makes a valid point.

  129. cuckoo

    The fact that we’re up to Star Wars #9 tells you all you need to know about the ruin that was once Hollywood.

    Ace of Spades recently did a post with a list of some of the movies released in just one year, 1982. It’s enough to make you weep. You could have seen a major movie every fortnight for the whole year; movies that, for the most part, we’re still watching today.

  130. P

    CEO RA Rayleen Castle and Waratahs CEO Andrew Hore just addressed the media on 24hr ABC News.

    She didn’t mention that Folau has played 73 Tests for Australia and recently scored his 60th try in Super Rugby to become the competition’s all-time leading try scorer.

  131. Just Interested

    From the Antony Green twitterfeed:
    We are still waiting for the NSW Leg Council preference count sheets to be published, but my first observation is that supporters of left-of-centre parties seem much more likely to preference above the line than right-of-centre parties. 1/3

    That is important for the Senate election given the plethora of right-of-centre parties registered for the Federal election. All those little right parties competing against each other are going to split the vote and perhaps help Labor and the Greens. 2/3

    It wasn’t helped in NSW where the count resolved into one left-of-centre party (Animal Justice) but three right of centre parties on roughly the same vote (One Nation, Lib Dems and Christian Dems). Right split of preference has made life tough for NSW govt in LC.

    The NSW Legislative Council results:

    Party Vote Quotas
    Liberal/National 34.8% 7.6597
    Labor 29.7% 6.5313
    Greens 9.7% 2.1401
    One Nation 6.9% 1.5170
    Shooters F & F 5.5% 1.2182
    Christian Dems 2.3% 0.5008
    Liberal Dems 2.2% 0.4794
    Animal Justice 1.9% 0.4286
    Keep Sydney Open 1.8% 0.4029
    Sustainable Aust 1.5% 0.3218
    Vol. Euthanasia 1.1% 0.2322
    Small Business 0.7% 0.1503
    Conservatives 0.6% 0.1300
    Flux 0.4% 0.0801

    Can someone please tell me the point of the Australian Conservatives?

    And does anyone think they’ll do better in the Senate election?

  132. Fred

    I see that Zali Steggall is complaining about a sexualised video.

    Saint Zali would never do anything like that.

    https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enAU841AU841&biw=1920&bih=977&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=_Ba0XL6WC9LUz7sP8rOO2A4&q=zali+steggall+auscelebs&oq=zali+steggall+auscelebs&gs_l=img.3…40837.42867..43099…0.0..0.159.1345.0j9……0….1..gws-wiz-img…….0i24.7KioNyMKKHc”

  133. notafan

    I love the cynical promises to the gullible and stupid.

    100 units of currency and sex with virgins after you blow yourself up

    The 15-year-old was allegedly paid 1000 shekels in order to blow himself up in Afula.[14][15]

  134. Stimpson J. Cat

    I don’t opine on many things, Bespoke, but I know when I’m right.

    I’m exactly the same except when I can’t prove I am right and am simply relying on the strength of my belief to persuade someone rather than the strength of my evidence or argument.
    Then I’m wrong.
    And that’s all right.

    😁

  135. lotocoti

    the Blitz was just an unfortunately prolonged period persistent navigational errors.

    Actually, the Blitz was the result of Britain and France mistakenly viewing the invasion of Poland from a global perspective, rather than treating it as a local conflict.

  136. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can someone please tell me the point of the Australian Conservatives?

    To capture the thriving and incredibly strong LDP vote.

  137. thefrollickingmole

    Stimpson J. Cat

    Thanks to you i now have a pole a cat couldnt scratch.

    Very athletic rear ends on those vaulters

  138. zyconoclast

    And I say, not true I love the Women’s sport.
    Particularly the Pole Vault.
    It’s incredibly inspiring watching these dedicated athletes.

    Is it possible to be reincarnated as a purple stripe?

  139. Stimpson J. Cat

    Don’t any of you ever say I don’t love or support the Women.
    Look at how much Awareness I just raised for Women’s sport.

  140. I must look for what events happened for those that served from 16 Feb 1970 to 10 Dec 1970.

    Do that.
    Refer specifically to p 163, which is an account of a friendly fire incident. I was next in line to the digger who was tail end Charlie and who copped an m60 round across the face. He was the luckiest man in the country. He’s now retired in Perth. Great bloke.
    Being caught in the cone of fire of an M60 with rounds whizzing past my ears concentrates your mind wonderfully. I was on the ground, pack abandoned, facing the direction of fire, in a split second. Fortunately, the Company OC, upon hearing simultaneous contact reports from two platoons cottoned on immediately and shouted “check fire” on the company net. Any delay and the rear echelon of my platoon would have been dead meat.
    The digger wounded ended up company clerk as he had used up all his luck.
    The incident was written up (falsely) as “overshoot”. It wasn’t. No enemy were sighted.
    Also refer to p173 which chronicles our encounter with an occupied bunker system. We took 1 KIA and 4 WIA before a troop of Centurions turned up. The VC cleared out overnight, after the tanks turned up, and before we assaulted through the next morning.

    On p 171, you’ll see me standing (right of pic) prior to emplaning at the beginning of Operation Finschhafen, and on p 175 in a group of naked diggers having a field shower halfway though Finschhafen, at FSB Anne. Modesty prevents me from locating myself in that pic.
    On p173 you’ll read an account of a digger dying from heat exhaustion. This still makes me angry. He could have been medevac’d earlier when he first collapsed, but this was held off because the chopper would have given our position away, after we had slogged down a rocky creek bed all night to avoid helicopter insertion.
    To this day I believe his death could have been avoided. His body was eventually taken out, and we encountered VC shortly afterward.

  141. Fred

    President Eisenhower warned us about the homosexual-industrial complex.

    Israel Folau is finding out about it the hard way.

  142. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s weird, I thought all Italians were Black but after watching that Athletics meet clearly I was mistaken.
    Maybe it’s just the Sicilian ones.

  143. Dr Fred Lenin

    The leftist decromats declare Sanctuary Cities to defy Trumps migrant control measures then scream when he generously plans to send them the criminal illegals the profess to love ,”It is inhumane to force illegals to live in places that profess to accept them Trump is a monster for calling their lies out ,they dont give a stuff about migrants ,get them ti publicly declare their suppot[rt for illegals. Then put a 40 per cent levy on their salaries to pay for their humane beliefs ,make it compulsory . Stop federal funding for sanctuaryncities let them pay in local taxes .
    Trump beats them every time, they are like most career politicians ,seventh raters .

  144. The why claim it happened?

    I made no claims about that report anywhere on this blog.
    Scroll back and look for one.
    There’s a heap of garbage from the usual suspects making fun of the claim, but I made no comment.
    Catallaxy, where verballing is an art form.

  145. You said the matters lied about by Labor MP Melissa Parke were true.

    Show me where I wrote that.
    Then apologise, if you have the courage, when you can’t find it.

  146. dopey

    Sunday Telegraph: Ray Hadley leading the tipsters.
    4 vaginas in the top 7.

  147. notafan

    There’s a heap of garbage from the usual suspects making fun of the claim, but I made no comment.
    Catallaxy, where verballing is an art form.

    You did support Melissa Parkes and linked some nonsense about Israel trying to imply her claim was legit

    As usual skipping about the truth like a flea

  148. notafan

    1735099
    #2986530, posted on April 13, 2019 at 9:05 am

    Maybe Parke’s assertions have a grain of truth.
    The Or Commission (Hebrew: ועדת אור‎; full name: ועדת החקירה הממלכתית לבירור ההתנגשויות בין כוחות הביטחון לבין אזרחים ישראלים באוקטובר 2000, lit. “Commission of Inquiry into the Clashes Between Security Forces and Israeli Citizens in October 2000”, which was set up by the Israeli government, found, inter alia –

    The Arab citizens of Israel live in a reality in which they experience discrimination as Arabs. This inequality has been documented in a large number of professional surveys and studies, has been confirmed in court judgments and government resolutions, and has also found expression in reports by the state comptroller and in other official documents. Although the Jewish majority’s awareness of this discrimination is often quite low, it plays a central role in the sensibilities and attitudes of Arab citizens. This discrimination is widely accepted, both within the Arab sector and outside it, and by official assessments, as a chief cause of agitation.

  149. notafan

    1735099
    #2986530, posted on April 13, 2019 at 9:05 am

    Maybe Parke’s assertions have a grain of truth.
    The Or Commission (Hebrew: ועדת אור‎; full name: ועדת החקירה הממלכתית לבירור ההתנגשויות בין כוחות הביטחון לבין אזרחים ישראלים באוקטובר 2000, lit. “Commission of Inquiry into the Clashes Between Security Forces and Israeli Citizens in October 2000”, which was set up by the Israeli government, found, inter alia –

    The Arab citizens of Israel live in a reality in which they experience discrimination as Arabs. This inequality has been documented in a large number of professional surveys and studies, has been confirmed in court judgments and government resolutions, and has also found expression in reports by the state comptroller and in other official documents. Although the J ewish majority’s awareness of this discrimination is often quite low, it plays a central role in the sensibilities and attitudes of Arab citizens. This discrimination is widely accepted, both within the Arab sector and outside it, and by official assessments, as a chief cause of agitation.

  150. notafan

    1735099
    #2986530, posted on April 13, 2019 at 9:05 am

    Maybe Parke’s assertions have a grain of truth.

    can’t link the rest because it is moderated

  151. Good God, Stimpy!
    I just watched that video of the pole vaulters three times.
    Speaking from my professional viewpoint as a Pornographers Assistant, I could put these young ladies in a much higher paying game, so to speak…

    Where did I put my ventolin?

  152. Mark A

    I see, I try to be reasonable, but the slimy basket has a loophole for every statement he makes.

    Coming here posting stuff and later saying “I didn’t know if it was true or not” is below despicable.
    If you say something then back it up you craven coward.
    Or preferably p..s off for good

  153. C.L.

    The fact that we’re up to Star Wars #9 tells you all you need to know about the ruin that was once Hollywood.

    I haven’t seen one of them.

  154. Mark A

    You basterd Stimpy, where do you get the time to find these?
    Have it on rerun.
    You said you had a job.
    Fibbing?

  155. Maybe Parke’s assertions have a grain of truth.

    In case you can’t read, “maybe” means it is possible.
    I posted an Israeli Government report chronicling abuse of Palestinians, not referring to the specific assertion. When you read the Israeli reports, it describes a context where all kinds of abuses did happen.
    I did not say that Price’s assertion was correct.
    I have been verballed.
    I am owed an apology.

  156. Stimpson J. Cat

    I haven’t seen one of them.

    The Last Jedi is amazing C.L.
    You’ll love it, trust me.
    A wonderful film celebrating the Force and power of Women.

  157. Nick

    Can someone please tell me the point of the Australian Conservatives?

    When numbats like PHON can get two legislators, that question needs to be asked.
    You couldn’t argue that Aust Con are after money per votes as PHON does as they don’t
    get any, lol.

  158. bespoke

    Some teachers abuse kids so “maybe” 1735099,,,,,,

  159. Stimpson J. Cat

    You said you had a job.
    Fibbing?

    I work seven days unlike you lazy degenerates.
    About time you all appreciated all the incredible effort I put in posting civilized material to raise the culture and standards of this blog.

    But I don’t do it for the recognition.
    I’m very humble.

    I do it out of love.

  160. If you say something then back it up you craven coward.

    I said it was possible, and provided a factual account of abuses routinely occurring sourced from the Israelis.
    Abuse and name calling doesn’t alter the fact.

  161. Maybe Scumbers believes that Jooooos poison wells. That was always good enough for a pogrom or two.

    Scumbers is a disgrace……an anti-S**itic disgrace.

  162. Dr Fred Lenin

    Just read in the NSWelection the gangrenes got 9.7 per cent , isnt that a coincidence ,thats exactly the proportion of communist party members to normal working slaves in the old soviet union ,there is a mine of research there ,thank goodness that lowensteen prat is gone ,couldnt stand him ,as effective as a paper fan in a 45 degree heat wave ,another snout out if the tax trough ,should be more of it lots more of it.

  163. Deadly Dave goes down.
    Best news I’ve heard today.
    Wasn’t he saying he had won?
    Must be a Glibertarian…..

  164. Ubique

    I do it out of love

    It doesn’t go unnoticed. We are not worthy.

  165. Des Deskperson

    Here’s some interesting news on the Folau case from the ABC :

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-15/israel-folau-handed-rugby-australia-breach-notice/11003574

    According to this report, it would appear:

    that there is a uniform code of conduct that applies uniformly to all players as part of their overall employment agreement with RA:

    that Folua is charged with a ‘high level breach’ of this code. There is no indication that there is a separate and more proscriptive behavioural requirement that applies to Folua alone;

    that Folua had been warned ‘formally and repeatedly about the expectations of him as player for the Wallabies and New South Wales Waratahs with regards to social media use, and had failed to meet those obligations;

    that there is a standard process for dealing with alleged breaches of the code and that this is being applied to Folau.

    If this is true, then many of the claims made here about Folau being held to an individually rigorous and unfair conduct regime because of his beliefs may be exaggerated.

    I would also add that the RA procedures set out in the link for determining whether Folau breached the code seem to me to be consistent with industrial and employment law requirements for due process.

  166. Mark A

    Nick
    #2988321, posted on April 15, 2019 at 4:10 pm

    Can someone please tell me the point of the Australian Conservatives?

    When numbats like PHON can get two legislators, that question needs to be asked.

    Nick, I know how important it is to get exposure as a political animal, albeit on a branch level.
    Make yourself or your party known to the multitude is paramount in politics.

    Many here gave hints and advice ( not to mention donations) to AC, obviously ignored by those who know better.
    Made your bed, lie in it.

  167. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers linking the Israeli equivalent of the Grauniad.
    And those events were related to the commencement of very violent 2nd Intifada.
    Fortunately Israeli Arabs got a brain after that and did not go the way of the PA and Hamas.
    Don’t you read anything that’s not a lefty propaganda sheet Numbers?
    Sheesh.

  168. notafan

    There is nothing even remotely like an allegation that the IDF poured a litre of bleach down the throat of a pregnant Palestinian at a border crossing for no apparent reason

    in fact there are no allegations even similar

    it is a straight out blood libel of the they poisoned our wells variety

    instead you relied onto completely unrelated claims about civil unrest of Israeli arab citizens in 2000

    you are a grubby little peddler of not even a skerrick of truths

  169. Boambee John

    Please do not feed the numerical troll.

    It was very low energy early today, but a few transfusions of attention have given it new strength.

  170. notafan

    There is nothing even remotely like an allegation that the IDF poured a litre of bleach down the throat of a pregnant P alestinian at a border crossing for no apparent reason

    in fact there are no allegations even similar

    it is a straight out blood libel of the they poisoned our wells variety

    instead you relied onto completely unrelated claims about civil unrest of Israeli a rab citizens in 2000

    you are a grubby little p eddler of not even a sk errick of truths

  171. notafan

    There is nothing even remotely like an allegation that the I DF poured a litre of bleach down the throat of a pregnant P alestinian at a border crossing for no apparent reason

    in fact there are no all egations even similar

    it is a straight out blood l ibel of the they p oisoned our wells variety

    instead you relied onto completely unrelated claims about civil unrest of Israeli a rab citizens in 2000

    you are a g rub by little p eddler of not even a sk errick of truths

  172. twostix

    Can someone please tell me the point of the Australian Conservatives?

    Controlled opposition.

  173. notafan

    You are right Boambee John

    it is trolling as much as it ever did

    still there is so much missinformation on the net about what happens in P alestine it is good to set out the facts occassionally

    Melissa Parkes and her ilk are doing such a great job of promoting the palliwood version of events

  174. Mark A:
    Yep. Digits and his ilk do this sort of stuff all the time.

    I see, I try to be reasonable, but the slimy basket has a loophole for every statement he makes.

    It’s one way to pick out the Leftards – always look for the built in back pedal position.

  175. Leigh Lowe

    1735099

    I am owed an apology.

    I am sorry.
    Sorry that you are a lying xunt
    Now fuck off, there’s a good chap.

  176. Roger

    If this is true, then many of the claims made here about Folau being held to an individually rigorous and unfair conduct regime because of his beliefs may be exaggerated.

    Otoh, a conduct regime that denies an employee the right to publicly express their religious beliefs is exaggeratedly rigorous and unfair.

  177. “it is a straight out blood l ibel of the they p oisoned our wells variety”

    Yep….apparently we Jooooos poison wells, kill children for their blood to make matza, pour bleach down the throats of pregnant women…..and the grub’s comeback line…he said “it was possible”.

  178. thefrollickingmole

    When you read the Israeli reports, it describes a context where all kinds of abuses did happen.
    I did not say that Price’s assertion was correct.

    You know being a skilled weasel word person means you should put some waffle between the accusation you are making and the weaseling out of the allegation later on.
    Passive tone “Reports” followed by possessive “I did not” is pretty weak sauce.

    low energy weaseling
    1/10
    Would not discombobulate with.

  179. RobK

    I do it out of love
    Unspecified.

  180. dover_beach

    I said it was possible,

    She didn’t make a general claim, she claimed that Palestinian women were forced to drink bleach by the IDF. Do we have any evidence of this occurring even in the past? No, so you can’t suggest that it has even a ‘grain of truth’. You might as well say that repeating a blood libel now was legitimate on the grounds that it was possible given the report you mention which is frankly idiotic.

  181. zyconoclast

    Child s3x offender given top welfare job despite history of allegations

    Child s3x allegations followed Frank Valentine from one child welfare job to another until the mid-1980s when he was named Department of Youth and Community Services operations manager for the Hunter, or second-in-charge.

  182. dover_beach

    I said it was possible,

    She didn’t make a general claim, she claimed that Palestinian women were forced to drink bleach. Do we have any evidence of this occurring even in the past? No, so you can’t suggest that it has even a ‘grain of truth’. You might as well say that repeating a [email protected]@d libel now was legitimate on the grounds that it was possible, given the report you mention, which is frankly idiotic.

  183. cohenite

    Hypothesis: Radical Greens are the Great Killers of Our Age
    By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng.

    And people will still vote for the bastards.

    Enjoyed talking to the rels this afternoon; one is an electrical engineer; he knew nothing about tit’s r..e allegation and plibber’s hubbie being a convicted drug trafficker. He laughs about EVs though. Also advises getting a good diesel generator for the home.

    If Bill Thompson is still around: Bill contact this guy and tell him you were discussing Kathy with me.

    Ashby, Leon (Sen F. Anning) [email protected]

  184. zyconoclast

    BTW
    Campbell Newman supports the sacking of Israel Folau because of breech of contract.

  185. RobK

    Unspecified
    Appologies Stimpy. Impulsive drive-by.

  186. dover_beach

    Great minds notafan.

  187. Mater

    It’s one way to pick out the Leftards – always look for the built in back pedal position.

    Let’s test that theory…

    1735099
    #2984777, posted on April 11, 2019 at 10:23 am

    Good to see Spud-peeler coming when called by name.

    This reference causes me endless mirth, and indicates the deep ignorance of those who use it.
    In the first place, potatoes fed to diggers in Vietnam were always the reconstituted powdered variety.
    No potatoes were peeled by any operational soldier in Vietnam.

    Ahhh, there it is!
    What, pray tell, defines an ‘operational’ soldier as opposed to just a deployed soldier. Do you mean ‘Infantryman’ or are you keeping your (escape) options open?

  188. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yep….apparently we Jooooos poison wells, kill children for their blood to make matza, pour bleach down the throats of pregnant women

    It seems incredibly unlikely Cassie.
    I’m sorry but I don’t believe it.
    Let’s try and stick to facts, not feelings, on Catallaxy please, gentle people.

  189. Roger

    Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Arts. 18 & 19:

    Article 18.

    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

    Article 19.

    Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

    Someone should ask Raelene Castle or Alan Joyce for comment.

  190. notafan

    Doesn’t matter what we say DB

    skin suit will slither off until the next time he claims victory

  191. Colonel Crispin Berka

    That’s gotta hurt. How on Earth did David Leyonhjelm lose to the Animal Justice Party?

    I propose a hypothesis. I blame the social media glitterati. Social media is bombarded with animal propaganda. Endless streams of cats which are alleged to own their humans, endless streams of farmyard animals treated as equal friends, and endless puppies accompanied by the admonishment “we don’t deserve dogs”. This popular brainwashing is to the effect that humans are cancer and other animals are morally superior by virtue of being stupid. So in the contest between animal liberties and civil liberties, the animals are more equal than the others.

    The more perplexing tragedy, which I have no answer for, is how on Earth PHON did not lose to LD. Given the results, I can only assume that it’s actually the cloven hoofed animals that are doing the voting.

  192. “Stimpson J. Cat
    #2988355, posted on April 15, 2019 at 4:46 pm
    Yep….apparently we Jooooos poison wells, kill children for their blood to make matza, pour bleach down the throats of pregnant women

    It seems incredibly unlikely Cassie.
    I’m sorry but I don’t believe it.
    Let’s try and stick to facts, not feelings, on Catallaxy please, gentle people.”

    I’m glad you don’t believe it Stimpson….but you’re not a grub.

    You are, however, slightly Mishigas….and I mean that as a compliment.

  193. BrettW

    The Greens and Labor seem to like wearing Stop Adani T shirts.

    I want to get a T shirt that says :

    Stop Adani and
    help me keep more Indians in poverty
    and more unemployed in Qld.

  194. Melissa Parkes and her ilk are doing such a great job of promoting the palliwood version of events

    And here’s a version of events from ex members of the Israeli military.
    Reckon they’re anti-Sem*t*c?

  195. notafan

    Good point Mater

    there is loads of info on the net about the rations carried by Australian soldiers in Vietnam, and that in some circumstances, hot meals were helicoptered out to solders away from the main bases.

    but yes soldiers on patrol didn’t carry a sack of brushed potatoes and have cookouts., for reasons that are obvious to even the dumbest of us civvies

  196. notafan

    No-one claimed the IDF was perfect

    Yet nothing in the article comes close to the bleach claim

    You always rush off looking for straws to clutch though

  197. Roger

    Campbell Newman supports the sacking of Israel Folau because of breech of contract.

    A contract cannot impose conditions that are against the public good.

    Freedom of religion is a public good.

    I do hope Folau takes this further legally; it is not only his rights at stake but many other current and potential professional sports people.

  198. Bruce of Newcastle

    That’s gotta hurt. How on Earth did David Leyonhjelm lose to the Animal Justice Party?

    AJP won one seat this election same as they did last election. Poor fluffy animals! (Let’s not mention all the birds and bats mashed by wind turbines the AJP like so much.)

    All that happened this election is Fred Nile lost a seat and the Libs lost a seat, both of which went to PHON. Which means if anything the NSW LC moved to the right somewhat. Since LDP are centre-left these days that explains why DL didn’t get up.

  199. Knuckle Dragger

    Just back from Humpty Doo. I love it every time I get to say that.

    I see the combat projectionist, having been demonstrably proved to be weaselly wrong yet again, has followed form by changing the subject. He’ll be off soon.

    G’nite, big guy. Give that bedroom window an extra lick for me.

  200. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2988369, posted on April 15, 2019 at 4:58 pm

    That’s gotta hurt. How on Earth did David Leyonhjelm lose to the Animal Justice Party?

    He can only himself to blame for the loss.
    For all his time as a senator I can’t find any good that he did.

    Excused himself from many important (to us mere mortals) senate votes, carried on about idiotic irrelevant matters nobody but the fringe cares about.

    What do you expect?
    Accolade?
    Good riddance.

  201. Mater

    Stop Adani

    I notice that all the bollards of peace outside the main doors of Southern Cross Station have been very professionally painted (ie. not graffiti tags) with this political message.
    It would have taken quite a bit of time. There is no way that whoever did it could have done so without coming to the attention of police and/or protective services, especially given that VicPol HQ is less than 200m away.
    My question is, who authorised it and how do you get permission to paint propaganda on public property?

  202. He can only himself to blame for the loss.

    Let’s be realistic. Some of his supporters voted for Latham, the small business party and AC.\

    The CDP got a bigger primary vote and missed out too.

    Wes Fang and Animal Justice. Oof.

    For all his time as a senator I can’t find any good that he did.

    I am also sure if you found anything, you’d ignore it.

  203. Des Deskperson

    ‘Otoh, a conduct regime that denies an employee the right to publicly express their religious beliefs is exaggeratedly rigorous and unfair.’

    Here’s link to the RA Code of conduct:

    https://www.rugbyau.com/about/codes%20and%20policies/integrity/code%20of%20conduct

    These sections seem to be the ones relevant to the Folau case’ :

    1.3 Treat everyone equally, fairly and with dignity regardless of gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, ethnicity, cultural or religious background, age or disability…’

    1.7 Use Social Media appropriately. By all means share your positive experiences of Rugby but do not use Social Media as a means to breach any of the expectations and requirements of you as a player contained in this Code or in any Union, club or competition rules and regulations.

    These sections may or may not be ‘exaggerated, rigorous and unfair’, but Folua signed up to them in return for money. Presumably these sections were the basis of RA’s warnings to him ‘formally and repeatedly about the expectations of him as player’. It’s also a reasonable assumption that these warnings were based on legal advice about the meaning and coverage if the code.

  204. bespoke

    David hung his hat on just one social issue and dismissed the rest. It’s all in for the left and should be challenged on all fronts.

  205. Mater

    Maybe IT is right. Mankind might be doomed to extinction.

    https://youtu.be/ldy4LOgvUCw

    😉

  206. Roger

    Des, see what I wrote at 4:57pm.

    I don’t like RA or QANTAS’s chances if Folau takes this further.

    There is much more at stake than their corporate reputations.

  207. Keep Sydney Open too…

    If only there was someone out there who was a successful preference whisperer…

  208. David hung his hat on just one social issue and dismissed the rest.

    If I ask a group of three conservatives and three leftists, I bet they can name at least seven. Can you tell me which one before we have an argument?

  209. Since LDP are centre-left these days that explains why DL didn’t get up.

    ???

    Compared to Vox Day perhaps; do you really think the membership of One Nation have read economic classics by Mark Latham such as Civilising Global Capital?

  210. bespoke

    Has the circus produced a Gay Christine that believes in hell and was offended?

  211. Knuckle Dragger

    I have no idea what the KPIs are for a Senator, and am quite willing to profess ignorance in the matter.

    I recall a number of guest posts here, but can’t recall Dave being front and centre for any Parliamentary debate of substance.

    I do remember his excellent public flaying of Whatsername and her feminist coven over the alleged gender pay gap, but I don’t know if that’s six years’ worth of work or not. For a Senator, that is.

  212. Nick

    Let’s be realistic. Some of his supporters voted for Latham, the small business party and AC.

    So what? Why did his supporters not vote for him? Obviously they weren’t that numerous, what with AC getting some .6% of the vote.

  213. zyconoclast

    Bernard Gaynor Published on Apr 11, 2019
    The Navy originally banned personnel from marching at the Greenwell Point dawn service due to safety concerns.

    6 minute video. ADF is in good hands

  214. Nick

    1.3 Treat everyone equally, fairly and with dignity regardless of gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, ethnicity, cultural or religious background, age or disability…’

    He could argue that he was fair, they are ALL going to hell 🙂

  215. Fisky
    #2988155, posted on April 15, 2019 at 12:41 pm

    Any sign of m0nster? He’s been very quiet since Muellerween!

    I have lost two bets to montel.

    I paid both out.

    I win my frst bet and…he’s no where to be seen.

    I know he has the contacts of the owners and cats I know.

    This won’t do, fatboy.

  216. bespoke

    Gender pay gap, Fank of Tiles.

  217. calli

    From Brian Houston’s SMH column:

    While sin is a real issue, the God I know and seek to follow is a God of love. He says that He did not come to condemn the world, He came to save it. And as Christians we would do well to follow the example of the founder of our faith. I believe there is a heaven and a hell but if you study scripture you won’t read about Jesus screaming to people that they are all going to hell. In fact Jesus, John the Baptist and the Apostle Paul, all kept their harshest criticism for those who were religious and judgmental.

    Brian, sin is the issue. It is serious. Anyone who has been sinned against will immediately understand how deadly it is.

    God is a God of love. He is also holy. He will judge. Jesus talked about judgement constantly, using parables and straight-out warnings. He wanted people to know and understand their terrible predicament. Why would he bother dying if it wasn’t so serious?

    And Brian, he was harshest about the blind guides. You know. The ones who talked out of both sides of their mouths, leading the people astray by pretending God was something he was not. Many did it for prestige and money.

    Don’t be a blind guide Brian. Lead your flock wisely.

  218. thefrollickingmole

    In bizzaro world her comments were completely innocuous and mainstream until the Emperor of Orange mentioned them…

    Ilhan Omar has had spike in death threats since Trump attack over 9/11 comment
    Congresswoman said many threats referenced the president’s tweet as Sarah Sanders praises Trump for ‘calling Omar out’

    Omar issued a statement on Sunday night saying: “Since the president’s tweet Friday evening, I have experienced an increase in direct threats on my life – many directly referencing or replying to the president’s video.”

    Omar said the Capitol police, the FBI, the House sergeant at arms and the speaker of the House were all aware of the threats and she thanked them for their assistance.

    Violent rhetoric and all forms of hate speech have no place in our society, much less from our country’s Commander in Chief,” she wrote. “We are all Americans. This is endangering lives. It has to stop.

    2,500 people were unavailable for comment.

    What a vile gross little slug.
    She shits on 2000 dead people then plays the victim card .
    So slimy slugs pour salt on her.

  219. bespoke

    “Free speech” a swell Frank of Tiles my mistake.

  220. “Violent rhetoric and all forms of hate speech have no place in our society, much less from our country’s Commander in Chief,” she wrote. “We are all Americans. This is endangering lives. It has to stop.”

    Turns out her rhetoric is an indirect threat to her own life.

  221. calli

    Low Energy Weaseling could be an Olympic sport.

  222. If libertarians stop caring about free speech bespoke, they may as well quit.

    Mrs Clubb lost her case. The Lange test is dead. It is now the Clubb test, and it is much more oppressive.

    Free speech is more of an issue now than 5, 10, 15 or 20 years ago. Simply because we have less of it.

  223. calli

    Trump simply gave the now voiceless a voice.

    Suck it up Omar.

  224. rickw

    Numbers clearly has a lot of time on his hands, there isn’t a single issue that this contrarian idiot is unwilling to tackle.

    Perhaps we haven’t seen Montel because he’s just not willing to compete in the Troll Olympics at such an epic level of stupidity?

  225. Bruce of Newcastle

    Dot – LDP has emphasised prog policies the last few years and deemphasised righty policies eg economic, s18c etc.

    Therefore the LDP is competing in the prog space with AJP, Greens, ALP and all the other prog parties, of which there were oodles in the Legislative Council. Hard to cut through in that jungle.

  226. Knuckle Dragger

    Well, Ms Omar, it would appear that ‘some people did something’ that made you feel uncomfortable.

    Even making the giant leap of faith and assuming her statements are true, are they in remotely the same ballpark as the other someones that did something to the thousands of people in and around the World Trade Center?

    Being rammed by a fully loaded 737 at 800 kph can make you feel a bit scratchy, granted.

  227. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NSW upper house: Animal Justice Party’s Emma Hurst beats out David Leyonhjelm, One Nation picks up second seat

    Andrew Clennell
    NSW Political Editor
    @aclennell
    An hour ago April 15, 2019
    90 Comments

    The micro-Animal Justice Party has won its second seat in the NSW Legislative Council, with vegan bodybuilder Emma Hurst elected, joining Mark Pearson in as an upper house MP.

    The result saw Ms Hurst beat Christian Democrat Paul Green by about 8000 votes to the spot.

    She also defeated Liberal Democrat David Leyonhjelm and Keep Sydney Open’s Tyson Koh to the final spot of 21 elected members when preferences were finally distributed today from the March 23 election.

    In a statement on her Facebook page today, Ms Hurst said: “You believed, so we won.

    “You believed that the Animal Justice Party can make a difference in parliament.

    “You believed that together we can change the world. You believed, and because of your confidence in us, we won! Today I write to tell you the wonderful news that the animals have another voice in parliament in NSW.

    “We’ve shown once again that when we all come together, our movement is more powerful than anything the Shooters and Fishers or the National Party can throw at us.

    “Tens of thousands of residents voted in the Animal Justice Party because they saw what we saw — that it is time for change.

    “But this is just the beginning. Now the real work begins. I won’t be some politician full of empty promises — I plan to do whatever it takes to make changes for animals because there are still millions of hens in cages, there are koalas having their homes torn down, and there are animals being shot from the skies. For them, we must seize this opportunity.

    “We now have the chance to get another member of parliament in the Federal election. I’ve never been more confident that we will.

    “Let’s be relentless, audacious and tenacious. Let’s demand change. Let’s rise fearlessly and step into this moment.

    “For the animals — let’s do this!”

    From the Oz. Stick fork in it New South Wales, you’re done.

  228. Nick

    Whew, wait till that Trump and his family get death threats, that will show them. Oh hang on….

  229. If Wes Fang wants to show he isn’t completely useless, he will filbuster to prevent the AJP from doing anything and demand that Beryl Gladishocklian totally stonewalls these triffid worshipping freaks.

  230. Nick

    there are koalas having their homes torn down

    Koalas can afford a home in Sydney ? They must be doing well.

  231. calli

    I couldn’t watch that, TFM.

    It’s still raw. Watching it early that morning – the Beloved was ashen faced – something has happened in New York, he said.

    I knew someone who was in the lift Lobby in No 2. He’d called the lift and felt the impact. He scuttled out and looked up. Just like my brother-in-law on the Granville train, it took a while to register that he was seeing the unimaginable, trying to process it. Then he ran.

    Omar is a garbage mouth. How a creature like that could be elected and then boldly bullsh*t about 9/11 beggars belief. She deserves every word of condemnation coming her way until she abjectly apologises. Perhaps she could do so at the memorial.

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