Monday Forum: April 15, 2019

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  1. Knuckle Dragger

    I’ll bet my pound to your peanut that as soon as she gets through her own front door, good old Ilhan gets the clobber off, whacks the fat pants and a halter top on, grabs a Scotch and a durry and spends the night binge watching UFC and bitching to Mr Omar about how she gets no respect.

    No respect, I tells ya.

  2. Nick

    and there are animals being shot from the skies

    Our animals really have evolved more than I thought,

  3. Leigh Lowe

    dover_beach

    #2988349, posted on April 15, 2019 at 4:42 pm

    I said it was possible,

    She didn’t make a general claim, she claimed that Palestinian women were forced to drink bleach. Do we have any evidence of this occurring even in the past? No, so you can’t suggest that it has even a ‘grain of truth’. You might as well say that repeating a [email protected]@d libel now was legitimate on the grounds that it was possible, given the report you mention, which is frankly idiotic.

    Exactly DB.
    There is no “grain of truth”, because there is no evidence anywhere that it ever happened.
    It is word-of-mouth anti-Semitic incitement, the like of which Goebbels would be proud.
    You know, “It sounds like the sort of thing the hook-noses would do.”
    As for Mzzzz Price, I have no idea why the spud-peeler is bothering.
    She was done cold spreading anti-Semitic libel and the ALP fired her on the spot.
    And here’s something else … when I say “done cold” I reckon one of her inner circle has it on tape. She was a past master of “misquoted out of context” so there must have been zero wriggle room.
    How delicious.
    One of the ALP Pals of Palestine or a United Voice unionist has threatened to sell her out to the Mudrock press.
    They must REALLY hate her guts.

  4. thefrollickingmole

    Stimpy youve made the news!

    An Bald* man is suing his parents for getting rid of his vast pornography collection, which he estimates was worth $29,000.

    The 40-year-old man last week filed a lawsuit in federal court in Insaneagain, where he moved in with his parents in 2016 following a divorce.

    He says that when he moved out 10 months later, they delivered his things to his new home in Sane, but that his 12 boxes of pornographic films and magazines were missing. His parents admit they dumped the porn, which included titles such as Frisky Business and Big Bad Grannys [sic].

    The man filed a complaint with police but the Ottawa county prosecutor declined to press charges. The lawsuit includes an email excerpt from the man’s father, who told his son, “I did you a big favour by getting rid of all this stuff.”

    The man is seeking triple financial damages of roughly $87,000.

    *Some details changed to finger the guilty.
    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/apr/15/man-sues-parents-for-throwing-out-porn-collection

  5. https://vtr.elections.nsw.gov.au/lc/state/fp_grp_total_by_vote_type

    B SOCIALIST ALLIANCE

    14,194

    There is a small town, nearly municipality sized that voted for the Trotskyist Party.

  6. Elle

    Cassie,

    My mama use to make this sweet treat.

    Yummy.

  7. calli

    and there are animals being shot from the skies

    Hit the rotors, did they?

    I believe solar arrays can cause instant KFC too.

  8. rickw

    My Maxda CX5 internal lady does a wonderful job telling me about speed limits and red light cameras in a timely fashion.

    I always chastise the internal lady in my missus’s Mazda: I’m not over the speed limit, WE’RE over the speed limit!

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    And Dot – PHON is the opposite of LDP. They have rightie social policies and lefty economic policies.
    Result PHON 2 LDP 0.

    I won’t vote for PHON because of the economic policies and LDP sure ain’t exciting me on the social policies. Did a complete Sir Robin on s18c, and is nowhere to be seen re persecution of Christians like Folau.

    (DL has one retweet that mentions Folau, golly how awesome is that support!)

  10. thefrollickingmole

    calli

    Well put, its not so much shes vile enough to piss on the dead, its the sheer gall of trying to paint herself the victim.

  11. Elle

    I have continued the tradition, Cassie. 🙂

  12. zyconoclast

    Cricket World Cup: Steve Smith & David Warner in Australia squad

    Full World Cup squad
    Aaron Finch (capt), Usman Khawaja, David Warner, Steve Smith, Shaun Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Marcus Stoinis, Alex Carey, Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Jhye Richardson, Nathan Coulter-Nile, Jason Behrendorff, Nathan Lyon, Adam Zampa.

  13. Leigh Lowe

    Omar issued a statement on Sunday night saying: “Since the president’s tweet Friday evening, I have experienced an increase in direct threats on my life – 

    Phhht.
    They’re not death threats.
    It’s just some people saying they might do something … to someone … sometime.

  14. Leigh Lowe

    Well put, its not so much shes vile enough to piss on the dead, its the sheer gall of trying to paint herself the victim.

    The muesli is always the victim.

  15. calli

    Is there anything matzo can’t do?

    My dear friend at high school used to spread it with butter and vegemite. Kosher? Who knows. It was delicious.

  16. rickw

    Interesting to note as well that the NT government decided not to tell everyone else they’d leased the entire Port of Darwin to the Chinese for 99 years until well after the ink was dry on the contract.

    99 years??!! Why haven’t they been dragged outside and shot?

  17. Interesting to see what Latham does on economics. You should read Civilising Global Capital, Bruce.

    I’m not really sure the electorate knows the policies off by heart.

    No one in the Warringah electorate probably knows Zali Steggle’s position on excise tax.

    https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/books/academic-professional/politics-government/Civilising-Global-Capital-Mark-Latham-9781864486681

  18. (DL has one retweet that mentions Folau, golly how awesome is that support!)

    This seems uncharacteristically passive aggressive and sarcastic Bruce.

    Please name one other politician that backed Folau.

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m not really sure what reaction Omar was expecting when she reduced the largest ever terror attack on US soil to a big dose of ‘whatevs’.

    I’m not an ardent fan of every single thing the US population does, but one thing they excel at is patriotism. They excel bigly at that, and quite rightly called her on it at concert level volume.

    I mean, where did she think she was? At a Melissa Parke speech?

  20. Mark A

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #2988377, posted on April 15, 2019 at 5:13 pm
    For all his time as a senator I can’t find any good that he did.

    I am also sure if you found anything, you’d ignore it.

    Dotty, you assume a lot of things and you are mostly wrong.

    I hardly ever ignore anything until I’m sure it’s unimportant.
    Comes with the training.

  21. Cory defended Folau from a religious perspective.

    DL defended Folau from a free speech perspective.

    Why is the second one invalid? You don’t get to have a religious perspective without free speech.

    Mrs Clubb is finding out that the implied right to free political expression is very weak and somehow it waters down s 116.

    Funnily enough bespoke, you were saying that bringing up free speech was a bad idea for DL.

  22. cohenite

    thefrollickingmole

    #2988400, posted on April 15, 2019 at 5:36 pm

    The Falling Man.

    They never found a lot of the victims.

    I remember the ABC on the same day running commentary about how the West deserved this. And now it’s even hard to talk about what did it.

    To cheer myself up I think I’ll go and watch It Happened One Night.

  23. thefrollickingmole

    David did some good stuff on firearms as well.
    A curates egg, good & bad in parts.
    Its just unfortunate timing one of his issues (Gayrrage) happened to boil over while he was in Parliament.
    Consistent with his ideas, but hell live long enough to see it enshrined as a group of “special” people.

  24. Tel

    Maybe others have mentioned this one.

    https://savejames.com/our-story/

    I thought I was cynical and hard bitten, and fairly neutral on religious issues, but that’s a tearjerker even for me. I feel so sorry for that little kid, and it’s dreadful to think of a system where this can happen.

  25. Overburdened

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/04/14/transgender-activists-attack-movie-database-site-imdb-for-publishing-trans-actors-birth-names/

    People who are ok accept the journey goes on and have come to terms, even if uncomfortably, with their history.

    These people are seriously messed up.

  26. As a default, cosmetic surgery and sex changes on children ought to be illegal, prima facie.

    Change my mind.

  27. calli

    Being messed up is fashionable.

  28. bespoke

    Funnily enough bespoke, you were saying that bringing up free speech was a bad idea for DL.

    No I didn’t.

  29. Bruce of Newcastle

    Please name one other politician that backed Folau.

    Yep, as I thought, the LDP is standing firm against injustice like a small block of melting tofu.

  30. DrBeauGan

    calli
    #2988449, posted on April 15, 2019 at 6:19 pm
    Being messed up is fashionable.

    So is messing up your children. It’s sick.

  31. thefrollickingmole

    Being messed up is fashionable.

    More than that, it can be used to further “punish” the ex, gain valuable “struggle points” on facebook and redeem your otherwise meaningless and vapid life.

    Much as i hate to say it many ladies are addicted to “drama”, if life isnt like an episode of neighbors they feel deprived.
    What better purpose can your kid have than be your “breakdown by Munchhausens” crash test dummy?

    Some bloke probably do it as well but Im guessing it would be a 90% split on the gender of the driving parent in these cases.

  32. Sorry, the dang avatars are too close. I meant OB.

    Still, why is a free speech based defence of Folau, “wrong”?

    You can have all the religion you want in a surveillance state, but the Clubb case bludgeoned free speech even from our implied rights.

    I don’t get how Cory defending Folau somehow, perversely “proves” that DL is a bad man etc.

  33. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sorry Dot, I’ll leave off. It’s a bad day for you and DL. Commiserations.

  34. Bruce of Newcastle
    #2988452, posted on April 15, 2019 at 6:25 pm

    Please name one other politician that backed Folau.

    Yep, as I thought, the LDP is standing firm against injustice like a small block of melting tofu.

    What’s your point Bruce? Cory didn’t get him his job back either.

    Blaming DL and the LDP for Folau losing his job….just histrionic and bizarre.

  35. Bruce of Newcastle
    #2988456, posted on April 15, 2019 at 6:28 pm

    Why are you being so abnormally passive aggressive? I called it weeks ago that DL wouldn’t retain his seat, I’m not shocked at all.

    I really don’t get this turn, least of all against me, we normally get along.

  36. Rafe Champion

    Happy memories, funniest compilation of Donald Trump will not be President predictions.

  37. bespoke

    I don’t get how Cory defending Folau somehow, perversely “proves” that DL is a bad man etc.

    I’m not make that assumption, Frank of Tiles. DL was one of the better ones and not loon.

  38. Well.

    H/T LDP Memes for Free Market Dreams.

    Money talks.

    https://www.enca.com/business/imf-approves-42bn-loan-ecuador

    IMF approves $4.2bn loan for Ecuador

    It’s not corrupt or illegal for countries to actually bribe each other, so it mustn’t be illegal.

  39. Cassie of Sydney

    Elle…..yummo.

    I’ll be eating lots of Matzah brei next week which is matzah fried with eggs and liberally sprinkled with sugar, jam or honey. Scrumptious….at pesach I live on almonds, eggs, dark chocolate and matzah. I also like Matzah with gefilte fish sliced on top….I’m a good Ashkenazi girl.

  40. so it mustn’t be IMMORAL

    Way to sabotage your own punch lines, genius.

  41. mh

    One of Trump’s deplorables no doubt

    Suspect arrested in brutal assault on transgender woman, Dallas cops say

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/suspect-arrested-in-brutal-assault-on-transgender-woman-dallas-cops-say

  42. Leigh Lowe

    Rafe Champion
    #2988459, posted on April 15, 2019 at 6:31 pm
    Happy memories, funniest compilation of Donald Trump will not be President predictions.

    Pity mUnter isn’t here for the reprise of the Great Victory.
    Not hard to see that, when they were soooo in the bag for a Hilary-slide, they just had to invent the collusion story to justify the wrongology.

  43. None

    Oh wow Cassie my maternal grandmother used to fry thick slices of stale bread, top them with a fried egg and then sprinkle it with sugar. It was the most fantastic treat and I’ve always wondered where she got that combination. .

  44. Black Ball

    Good evening. Now that Smith and Fuckwit have been included into the cricket World Cup squad, nothing short of winning the tournament will suffice. As for the great Tiger Woods, what a win. Nick Faldo had it correct all along. Let the contenders make the pace then capitalise on their mistakes.

  45. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #2988478, posted on April 15, 2019 at 6:56 pm
    Oh wow Cassie my maternal grandmother used to fry thick slices of stale bread, top them with a fried egg and then sprinkle it with sugar. It was the most fantastic treat and I’ve always wondered where she got that combination.”

    There you go….you might be “tribe”! Any kind of bread fried in butter or chicken fat (shmaltz) is quite scrumptious….and when you sprinkle sugar over it and eat…..you gasp!

  46. Robber Baron

    Steve Jobs Hiv +

    Wikileaks dump.

  47. Black Ball

    ity mUnter isn’t here for the reprise of the Great Victory.

    He was one of the most affected fellows, tuning into CNN for his latest Russian collusion porn only for him to realise that watching it isn’t as good as the real thing. Imagine him now rocking in the feotal position sucking his thumb.

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You can say that again. I will. Your wished for glorious victory of the peasant proletariat in SE Asia never happened. A cadre of commie despots took over, murdered a heap of people, croaked the economy and starved a heap more, then at least were pragmatic enough to permit a small amount of market reality to enter their bamboo concentration camp.

    While flouting both attempts at a negotiated solution, and convincing the gullible that they were nothing more than a bunch of gallant Robin Hoods, who climbed on the Communist bandwagon, to achieve an independent Viet Nam, for which there was only ever going to be one model of government…”Hanoi’s Road to the Vietnam War”, by Pierre Asselin makes interesting reading – it’s a good summary of a theme, explored in depth in other titles.

  49. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Bruce of Newcastle #2988369, posted on April 15, 2019 at 4:58 pm

    both of which went to PHON. Which means if anything the NSW LC moved to the right somewhat. Since LDP are centre-left these days that explains why DL didn’t get up.

    Mark A #2988374, posted on April 15, 2019 at 5:08 pm

    For all his time as a senator I can’t find any good that he did. Excused himself from many important (to us mere mortals) senate votes, carried on about idiotic irrelevant matters nobody but the fringe cares about.

    bespoke #2988380, posted on April 15, 2019 at 5:15 pm

    David hung his hat on just one social issue and dismissed the rest.

    You were all very much mistaken. (Though almost certainly because of a biased media refusing him airtime that you didn’t hear about these things.)

  50. There you go….you might be “tribe”! Any kind of bread fried in butter or chicken fat (shmaltz) is quite scrumptious….and when you sprinkle sugar over it and eat…..you gasp!

    Fried bread or french toast with a dusting of icing sugar is heaven, add bacon with maple syrup and you have ecstasy. (the emotion not the drug)

  51. Leigh Lowe

    Rafe Champion
    #2988459, posted on April 15, 2019 at 6:31 pm
    Happy memories, funniest compilation of Donald Trump will not be President predictions.

    Everyone has their own greatest hits mix tape, Rafe, but my favourite 2016 election day coverage has to include the Young Turks (aka the Middle-aged Turds).
    The fat one started the day recounting a very tender moment with his daughter, telling her that a (cough) lady would hopefully be President by the end of the day.
    Fast forward ten hours … “I am coming after every last one of you Democrats. She was the worst candidate of ALL TIME!”

  52. Tel

    As a default, cosmetic surgery and sex changes on children ought to be illegal, prima facie.

    Well tattoos on kids are outright illegal, because of the whole consent issue … and the “Progressives” are constantly banging on about how a woman cannot consent to sex while drunk, a marriage certificate means nothing, you need “affirmative consent” , even ask the baby’s permission before changing a nappy … but hey they suddenly change their tune when it comes to cutting a kid’s balls off. I mean, I know that lot are hypocritical on everything all the time, but this is something again.

    Change my mind.

    No, nothing needs changing … cutting a little boy’s balls off is horrific. There’s no possible way you can fit that into any legal system and retain the slightest semblance of coherence. It contradicts every possible aspect of individual integrity.

  53. zyconoclast

    Frankenstein Designer Kids: What You Don’t Know About Gender-Transitioning Will Blow Your Mind

    Puberty-blocking drugs, mastectomies, [email protected] surgery and fake p3nises – all with zero chance of reversal – these are just some of the radical experimental methods being used on children. The madness must stop.

  54. Tel

    As a default, cosmetic surgery and sex changes on children ought to be illegal, prima facie.

    Well tattoos on kids are outright illegal, because of the whole consent issue … and the “Progressives” are constantly banging on about how a woman cannot consent to sex while drunk, a marriage certificate means nothing, you need “affirmative consent” , even ask the baby’s permission before changing a nappy … but hey they suddenly change their tune when it comes to cutting a kid’s 🎱🎱 off. I mean, I know that lot are hypocritical on everything all the time, but this is something again.

    Change my mind.

    No, nothing needs changing … cutting a little boy’s 🏀🏀 off is horrific. There’s no possible way you can fit that into any legal system and retain the slightest semblance of coherence. It contradicts every possible aspect of individual integrity.

  55. Mark A

    Cassie of Sydney
    #2988482, posted on April 15, 2019 at 7:01 pm

    There you go….you might be “tribe”! Any kind of bread fried in butter or chicken fat (shmaltz) is quite scrumptious

    Agree.

    ”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’
    ….and when you sprinkle sugar over it and eat…..you gasp!

    Gasp indeed, it makes me sick even to remember it, our only sister loved it that way and all of us boys gagged at the sight of it.

    Fat of any kind on a slice of bread and sugar?
    Give me a break. It cries out for salt fer God’s sake

  56. Armadillo

    Assange dump:

    https://file.wikileaks.org/file/?fbclid=IwAR3VGzChzURRy8LSzbrf_pqSonM3PBVLT26rTCV-ypUtKQGNvg0IlyLcWvM

    This has been out since Friday. Zero reporting so far as I can see.

    He did tell them he had “insurance” policies in place.

  57. Roger

    You don’t get to have a religious perspective without free speech.

    Yes, you can; but you can’t manifest it in accordance with the UN Universal Declaration on Human Rights.

    Bill Shorten, Peter Beattie, Scott Morrison, Alan Joyce, Raelene Castle & the vast majority of journalists are all against the UNUDHR and don’t see a problem with that.

    What a country.

  58. Steve trickler

    Well done, Michael Knowles.

    He’s be great on [email protected] He’d probably be denied a Visa though.

    Check out the audience when he is introduced. The people not clapping are the ones to take note off. They’ve identified themselves within seconds for those doing the security.

    At 6:10 you get a good look at the audience. Wow.

    Enjoy the show.



    The fat female wearing a t-shirt that says “Fat” ….. gee whiz.

  59. Armadillo

    Expect to see many more dumps.

  60. Robber Baron
    #2988484, posted on April 15, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    That was a shocker.

    https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs_purported_HIV_medical_status_results,_2008

    Due to the contradictory dates, possible evidence of forgery, strong motivations for fabrication, and few motivations for a legitimate revelation, the images should not be taken at face value.

  61. Yes, you can; but you can’t manifest it in accordance with the UN Universal Declaration on Human Rights.

    Sure, you just can’t freely express it; which is a mandate of most Christian denominations (open weekly public services and proselyting).

    Bill Shorten, Peter Beattie, Scott Morrison, Alan Joyce, Raelene Castle & the vast majority of journalists are all against the UNUDHR and don’t see a problem with that.

    Hitler was in short, popularly elected, don’t the religious say “Satan will be attractive and seductive…”?

  62. mh

    Puberty-blocking drugs, mastectomies, [email protected] surgery and fake p3nises – all with zero chance of reversal – these are just some of the radical experimental methods being used on children. The madness must stop.

    The anti Izzy Falou mob, like 2gb’s Chris Smith and Reverend Bill Cruz, are determined that it continue.

  63. Roger

    Sure, you just can’t freely express it; which is a mandate of most Christian denominations (open weekly public services and proselyting).

    Precisely.

  64. dover_beach

    Mrs Clubb lost her case. The Lange test is dead. It is now the Clubb test, and it is much more oppressive.

    What is the Clubb test, dot? Can you spell it out? A few of us here would like to know how the justices of the HC decided that a protest/ vigil outside of an abortuary is a non-political act.

  65. Very well said Tel. It is madness. It is belied by an irrational fear of not being politically correct.

  66. vlad

    Guess what. Australia and Australians have too much freedom of speech and it needs to be curtailed stat.

    That’s the opinion of not one but two human rights lawyers. And not just any old human rights lawyer. No, it’s Gillian Triggs and Julian Burnside themselves.

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-needs-stronger-laws-to-deal-with-hate-speech-20190412-p51dn1.html

    Only in Australia. Poor bugger my country.

  67. The Court decided that political free speech does not mean discourse between members of the public.

    It must be directed at a policy officer, a legislator or be in the course of influencing voting.

    This is convoluted bullshit on stilts.

    Another tummy rub for the toothless judiciary.

  68. With the new Clubber Lange test and agitation for more hate speech laws, you can write off free speech as a thing in Australia.

  69. mh

    Senator Fraser Anning
    @fraser_anning
    ·
    2h
    Bill Shorten wants to replace your 4WD with a pussy little electric car.

    Vote for me and I’ll defend your right to camping, fishing, hunting and off-roading!

  70. Mater;
    WS: It’s one way to pick out the Leftards – always look for the built in back pedal position.

    Mater: Let’s test that theory…

    No potatoes were peeled by any operational soldier in Vietnam.

    You’ve got it.
    Always look for the weasel words. (Also known as qualifiers)

  71. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    As a default, cosmetic surgery and sex changes on children ought to be illegal, prima facie.

    There may be a case for corrective surgery of abnormalities though, both in cosmetic surgery (think cleft palate and similar reconstructions) and in intersex abnormalities that make normal functioning difficult (think urinary malformations causing obstruction) without moving into the arena of ‘sex changes’.

    Care is always needed and proper ethical management assured re any surgery performed on children.

  72. None

    I am enjoying watching that veg Steve and honestly why do all the leftist activist the world over look the same? Lefty diversity = Look different and think the same? No it’s Same-o Same-o everywhere on everything.

  73. RobK

    Americans used more energy in 2018 than in any other year,
    This article has an interesting graphic of US energy use.

    Americans used more energy in 2018 than in any other year, according to the most recent energy flow charts released by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL). Overall total energy consumption rose to 101.2 quadrillion BTU (or “quads”). The prior record, set in 2007, was 101.0 quads. Energy use went up by 3.6 percent from 2017, which also is the largest annual increase since 2010.

    Rtwt

  74. Boambee John

    Mark A at 1930

    Fat of any kind on a slice of bread

    Bread and dripping, one of the culinary delights of the 1950s!

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Puberty-blocking drugs, mastectomies, [email protected] surgery and fake p3nises – all with zero chance of reversal – these are just some of the radical experimental methods being used on children. The madness must stop.

    Awful. I spoke to Mark Latham about this prior to the election. He said he would be pushing hard to get this sort of thing both recognized and outlawed. I asked how he intended to tackle the medical and social work professionals involved in it and lobbying for its continuance. He said it was difficult but he was working on ways with pediatricians who were very anti these sorts of invasive and misapplied practices. At least he is aware of the issue, wants to tackle it and is working out how that might be done.

  76. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I intend to be continually on his case about it too. He has to walk the talk.

    The future physical and mental health of many little children is at stake if we don’t do something about it.

  77. None

    You guys haven’t been paying attention. Children can defy parents and have puberty blockers and gender reassignment surgery. Remember that Dan Andrews has introduced doctor in schools where kids can go to the doctor without parental knowledge or consent and arrange for anything they like and the law and the courts will now back them. Remember too that it is virtually illegal to tell somebody that no they are not a Woman trapped in a man’s body or every other bit of nonsense that goes with radical gender Theory. If kids don’t have solid parents who immunise into this crap they are easy Pickings and believe you me I saw it in my own school many years ago and it will be far worse now.

  78. Mark A

    Boambee John
    #2988527, posted on April 15, 2019 at 7:58 pm

    Mark A at 1930

    Fat of any kind on a slice of bread

    Bread and dripping, one of the culinary delights of the 1950s!

    Why the 1950s?
    I buy a few tubs of duck fat or lard, fry a few pork chops in it, and hey presto you got your dripping.

    My objection is to the female infatuation of sugar on top of a meal that requires salt or vegemite.

  79. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There you go….you might be “tribe”! Any kind of bread fried in butter or chicken fat (shmaltz) is quite scrumptious….and when you sprinkle sugar over it and eat…..you gasp!

    My mother used to fry bread in lard. An old Welsh treat. Uses up stale bread and is extra nice if the lard is from the bottom of the can it used to be drained into. A very meaty flavor.

  80. Zyconoclast:
    I did not like the body language of the Army bloke – he was lying through his teeth about a couple of matters, IMHO, and was not used to having his agenda being questioned.
    Who was he? Anyone know? I couldn’t tell his rank – there was too much glittery stuff.

  81. Tel

    You guys haven’t been paying attention. Children can defy parents and have puberty blockers and gender reassignment surgery.

    No you are the one not paying attention. I posted the link already but here it is so read and get with it.

    https://savejames.com/our-story/

    James is a perfectly normal boy, no even slightly interested in any trans identity.

  82. Calli;

    Omar is a garbage mouth. How a creature like that could be elected and then boldly bullsh*t about 9/11 beggars belief.

    Omar is projecting the wishes and wants of her constituents.
    Just for you…

  83. Nick:

    … and there are animals being shot from the skies

    Our animals really have evolved more than I thought,

    You’ve never seen the flying Bunyip?

  84. Armadillo

    Bread and dripping, one of the culinary delights of the 1950s!

    You people are sick and require help.

    How many “Bread and Dripping” Restaurants do you see “popping up” about the place? Like right next door to the KFC, McDonalds and Pizza Hut?

    Give me an example. Just one will do.

  85. JC

    Love this dude.

    Edward Bramson, the activist investor seeking to shake up Barclays, emigrated from Britain to America in 1975, apparently fed up with the policies of Harold Wilson’s leftwing government.

    Although he has lived in New York ever since, the 67-year-old has never shaken off his distaste for what he views as Britain’s cosy establishment, and has devoted his recent career to agitating for change at underperforming UK companies.

    Now the London-born activist is ratcheting up the pressure on Barclays, by far his biggest target yet, with a pledge to seek backing from the bank’s investors for his push to engineer a radical overhaul by forcing his way on to its board of directors.

    In a letter to backers of his Sherborne vehicle, which is Barclays’ fourth-largest shareholder with 5.5 per cent, Mr Bramson said he “did not have confidence” he could bring about a recovery in the bank’s share price as an outside investor.

    The activist, who is due to meet Barclays’ chief executive Jes Staley in the US on March 12, wants the bank to shrink its investment banking division, which he believes is a drag on its valuation.

    In his letter, Mr Bramson called the investment bank a “black box with too much leverage” that “threaten[s] the overall stability of the group”. Barclays shares have fallen 32 per cent since Mr Staley took over in late 2015, underperforming the European banks index. But the bank is resisting Mr Bramson’s push for a board seat, arguing recent results show Mr Staley’s strategy is starting to pay off.

    Mr Bramson has not limited his activism to UK companies. His first target was Ampex, a US video technology group he bought in 1987. In 2007, he seized control of Nautilus, a US maker of fitness equipment. But both of these North American forays were failures that resulted in losses for the activist.

    Yet Britain is where he has recently made his mark, successfully turning round a hotchpotch of companies including 4imprint, a maker of promotional merchandise, Elementis, a chemicals specialist, and Spirent, a telecommunications testing group.

    Most recently he has had two big wins in financial services. First he took over F&C Asset Management, where he ousted management and improved performance before before selling it to Canada’s BMO at a 28 per cent premium.

    Then he took over Electra, a private equity group, before selling off most of its investments and returning the cash to shareholders. He also made money by investing in 3i, another private equity group, but failed to gain any influence over the company.

    People who have met Mr Bramson describe an old-fashioned, aloof figure with an unusual transatlantic accent, whose shyness often makes him seem standoffish and curt.

    “He is much better in a one-to-one situation than in a big-room presentation to a crowded room, where he doesn’t come across as very impressive,” said one person who has met him on several occasions. “In a small group, he is more charismatic: he is deliberative and softly spoken, and thinks very carefully about what he’s going to say before he says it.”

    One of the bank’s top 10 investors, who Mr Bramson has been courting over a series of lunches and meetings, described him as “a strange bloke, doesn’t really eat, thin as a rake. He’s very charming and erudite, but not very ‘clubbable’, if you know what I mean.”

    In many ways, Mr Bramson’s attack on Barclays is typical of his modus operandi: he quietly built a sizeable stake in the bank and then bided his time for several months before setting the stage for a bitter proxy battle.

    The attack on Barclays is his most audacious move so far. The bank is far bigger and more systemically important than any company he has targeted to date and if his campaign is successful it would represent the biggest activist assault on a UK company in recent memory — the crowning glory of his career.

    Mr Bramson has been courting Barclays’ largest institutional shareholders, seeking their backing for his plan to shrink one of Europe’s last truly global investment banks.

    On occasion, his advances have been met with short shrift. “He really doesn’t know much about banks,” said another top 10 Barclays investor he met, who predicted regulators at the Bank of England could frustrate his attempt to win a board seat. “I think there will be a lot of red lights flashing in Threadneedle Street,” the investor said.

    Andrew Coombs, banks analyst at Citigroup in London, agreed: “It’s difficult to think of another example in the US or European banking world where an activist shareholder has managed to get a board seat. I think it would be hard to get a majority of shareholders to back him. And on top of that he would need to seek regulatory approval. So I think it is a tall order.”

    But Mr Bramson does have a fan club in the UK, thanks primarily to his successes at F&C and Electra, which led to big gains for his blue-chip investors, such as Fidelity and Aviva.

    “I would be dismissive of most activists but if you look at what he’s achieved, his track record is strong,” said another top 10 Barclays investor who admires Mr Bramson. “It’s not just this crazy ‘let’s sell property or raise new debt’ argument. He has fundamentally changed the way these businesses work.”

    Perhaps unsurprisingly for a man who has cleared out so many boardrooms during his 30-year career, Mr Bramson has also earned some detractors along the way.

    “I have nothing positive to say about the guy. So following mum’s advice, since I can’t say anything good, I’ll not say anything at all,” quipped Dick Nelson, founder and former chief executive of 4imprint, who was defenestrated by Mr Bramson in 2003.

    This is capitalism at its finest.

  86. Infidel Tiger

    Terrible loss for sensible and soundness that Peter Phelps MLC has missed the cut in NSW for the Seante.

    The despicable Photios mafia stitched him up.

  87. candy

    I’ve never had or seen dripping or lard used anywhere. I thought margarine was around soon after the end of WWII.

  88. Nick

    You people are sick and require help.

    How many “Bread and Dripping” Restaurants do you see “popping up” about the place? Like right next door to the KFC, McDonalds and Pizza Hut?

    Give me an example. Just one will do.

    Hahahaha, true. Add to that the last time anyone as an adult ate the wretched stuff.

  89. Mitch M.

    He said it was difficult but he was working on ways with pediatricians who were very anti these sorts of invasive and misapplied practices. At least he is aware of the issue, wants to tackle it and is working out how that might be done.

    I’d wish you luck but in trying to find resources for the argument I stumbled upon this paper which argues not only for the surgery but for reproductive rights!

    https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/16/4/612/3114019

    But there is this …
    https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/ajp.139.4.417?journalCode=ajp
    Abstract
    The reported 68%-86% overall success rates for sex reassignment surgery must be viewed cautiously; the lack of long-term follow-up studies makes these statistics misleading. There is evidence suggesting that some gender dysphoric patients benefit primarily from sex reassignment surgery. Most such patients, however, are secondary transsexuals who can benefit from various modes of psychotherapy. Sex reassignment surgery should only be considered as the last resort for a highly select group of diagnosed gender dysphoric patients. As physicians learn new ways to diagnose and treat transsexualism, either sex reassignment surgery will be abandoned as a routine treatment modality or new predictive variables for choosing suitable patients for sex reassignment surgery will be established.

    For fun …

    Occurrence of phantom genitalia after gender reassignment surgery.

  90. Boambee John

    Winston Smith
    #2988534, posted on April 15, 2019 at 8:06 pm
    Zyconoclast:
    I did not like the body language of the Army bloke – he was lying through his teeth about a couple of matters, IMHO, and was not used to having his agenda being questioned.
    Who was he? Anyone know? I couldn’t tell his rank – there was too much glittery stuff.

    Crown, pip and crossed sword and baton, General Angus Campbell, CDF. The big boss!

    How have the Scots fallen!

  91. Mark A

    candy
    #2988545, posted on April 15, 2019 at 8:27 pm

    I’ve never had or seen dripping or lard used anywhere. I thought margarine was around soon after the end of WWII.

    Get off margarine, vile stuff, not good for you.
    Also goes for most vegetable oils, use Olive oil or lard or schmalz or duck fat, butter, ghee, freely available but costs a bit more.

  92. calli

    Buy lard at Woollies. It has less saturated fat than butter and a high smoke point.

  93. Boambee John

    And, no, he would not be used to having his agenda questioned!

  94. Armadillo

    FMD. I just got reminded I forgot our Wedding Anniversary.

    I was wondering what the candles and stuff were about. That’s apparently my “third strike” in 24 years.

    Thankfully, the meal she cooked was rubbish. I’m going with that argument. It’s all I’ve got. That and the fact I bought her a “Rose Bush” years ago so that she can get flowers whenever she damn well wants.

  95. Armadillo

    It’s all very unfair. Easter was 2 weeks earlier this year.

  96. zyconoclast

    Zyconoclast:
    I did not like the body language of the Army bloke – he was lying through his teeth about a couple of matters, IMHO, and was not used to having his agenda being questioned.
    Who was he? Anyone know? I couldn’t tell his rank – there was too much glittery stuff.

    Vice Admiral Michal Noonan AO. His name appears at 2:16

  97. vlad

    It’s all very unfair. Easter was 2 weeks earlier this year.

    You’re obviously joking. This is not far off being as late as Easter gets.

  98. Armadillo

    Give me a break, Vlad. I’m clutching at straws here.

  99. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    FMD. I just got reminded I forgot our Wedding Anniversary.

    Go and bang your head on the floor, until you are forgiven.

  100. Des Deskperson

    ‘Des, see what I wrote at 4:57pm.’

    Roger, I am puzzled by the process by which the alleged world’s greatest rugby player with the ability to access the best legal advice available had ‘imposed’ upon him ‘ conditions that are against the public good.’

    Folau by all accounts signed up voluntarily to a contract that imposed a certain code of conduct that may have restricted his rights to religious freedom.

    Either he was extremely stupid, very poorly advised, he didn’t actually care at the time about these rights or there is now something else happening, maybe involving money .

  101. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    What do I know about branding, maybe nothing (but I did become President!), but if I were Boeing, I would FIX the Boeing 737 MAX, add some additional great features, & REBRAND the plane with a new name.
    No product has suffered like this one. But again, what the hell do I know?
    6:29 PM · Apr 15, 2019 · Twitter for iPhone

  102. vlad

    I’m clutching at straws here.

    Fair enough.

  103. Black Ball

    FMD. I just got reminded I forgot our Wedding Anniversary.

    The local bowlo will forgive all sins

  104. Cassie of Sydney

    “Also goes for most vegetable oils, use Olive oil or lard or schmalz or duck fat, butter, ghee, freely available but costs a bit more.”

    Yes, these are all much, much better for you and much, more delicious than margarine…..I also use coconut oil for Asian food.

  105. Armadillo

    Weird thing is that I had the date engraved on the inside of my wedding ring so I wouldn’t forget.

    Stupid move. I’ve never taken it off. I’m now considering a tattoo on my forehead.

  106. JC

    I’m now considering a tattoo on my forehead.

    In reverse.

  107. bespoke

    Get Arky to do it Arma, and video it please.

  108. Cassie of Sydney

    “candy
    #2988545, posted on April 15, 2019 at 8:27 pm
    I’ve never had or seen dripping or lard used anywhere. I thought margarine was around soon after the end of WWII.”

    Candy, Coles and Woollies sell duck fat, lard and dripping….York Foods do the dripping and lard. These saturated fats are good for you. Does anyone remember their grandmother scraping off the beef and chicken fat to use for other things? Roast potatoes made with duck fat, chicken fat or dripping.

  109. Steve trickler

    None
    #2988525, posted on April 15, 2019 at 7:56 pm
    I am enjoying watching that veg Steve and honestly why do all the leftist activist the world over look the same? Lefty diversity = Look different and think the same? No it’s Same-o Same-o everywhere on everything.

    I just finished watching it. I reckon he gives his employer, Ben Shapiro, a few lessons to adhere too when it comes to taking the clowns on.

    Fine work.

  110. calli

    They used to use it for flaky pastry too. Mmmm…meat pies.

  111. Mark A

    Armadillo
    #2988565, posted on April 15, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    Stupid move. I’ve never taken it off. I’m now considering a tattoo on my forehead.

    Yes, but do you really look in the mirror, blurry eyed as you stagger into the bathroom?

    Something to do with your bookies bag may be better.

  112. Armadillo

    The local bowlo will forgive all sins

    Now you’re just “taking the piss”. Those bastards have got memories like elephants. I won’t be mentioning it.

    I’m constantly sledging those pricks. It’s not as if I’m going to hand them over ammunition.

  113. JohnJJJ

    On behalf of all the drunks referred to by Mr Falou.
    Please raise your glass for this toast “Here’s to Hell. May our stay there be as good as the way there”

  114. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6920693/If-rid-meant-Eat-Factory-owner-reveals-Aus-recycling-con.html

    Seems most Australian “recycled” rubbish is either dumped, buried or illegally burned.

  115. Tel

    Folau by all accounts signed up voluntarily to a contract that imposed a certain code of conduct that may have restricted his rights to religious freedom.

    Under the expectation of a neutral environment where other employees were also similarly restricted and no one would promote their own agenda using his good name to support that.

  116. Gab

    Amazing. Our fierce Navy personnel are too scared to march in the dark lest they slip and fall.

  117. Armadillo

    Something to do with your bookies bag may be better.

    I might have to make the date my PIN number. Next time I forget, I can blame pay wave.

    You always need “an out”.

  118. Boambee John:

    Crown, pip and crossed sword and baton, General Angus Campbell, CDF. The big boss!

    Bloody ‘ell.
    We are rooted.

  119. Nick

    Cats, Dan Murphy’s is selling Bin 28 Kalimna, 2016, for $33 a bottle, today only.

  120. Beertruk

    I’ve never had or seen dripping or lard used anywhere. I thought margarine was around soon after the end of WWII.”

    I use lard instead of butter or margarine when I make up the stuffing for a roast chook. Bought the lard in the dairy section at Coles.

  121. zyconoclast

    I can hear Albosleazy disappointment from here.

    [UK] Labour council candidate in Kirklees Lesley Warner has a novel approach to getting closer to local people. She has posted an advert in a local Facebook group promoting a Labour Party event that promises free coffee and cake. And hand massages.

    Unfortunately for sore Kirklees residents, ‘Treating’ electors like this is explicitly forbidden under the Representation of the People Act. If the Electoral Commission come down hard on this, Lesley’s hand massages will not have a happy ending…

  122. Armadillo

    In reverse.

    Good point.

    [Note to self: Start parting your hair on the other side so you don’t look like a dork].

  123. dover_beach

    The Court decided that political free speech does not mean discourse between members of the public.

    It must be directed at a policy officer, a legislator or be in the course of influencing voting.

    This is convoluted bullshit on stilts.

    Wow. Just wow. They magicked the ruling the government, state and federal, wanted.

  124. zyconoclast

    iPlod: Sajid Javid’s new internet rules will have a chilling effect on free speech
    How can the government prohibit comments that might cause ‘harm’ without defining what ‘harm’ is?

    Monday wasn’t the best day for the government to launch Online Harms, its white paper on internet regulation. As Sajid Javid was proudly proclaiming that Britain would have the toughest internet laws in the world, it emerged that a British woman had been arrested on a trip to Dubai and faced up to two years in prison for describing her ex-husband’s new wife as a ‘horse’ on Facebook. So does the Home Secretary want the UK to have tougher internet laws than the United Arab Emirates? If so, he might find himself at odds with the Foreign Secretary, who has been working behind the scenes to secure the poor woman’s release.

  125. Armadillo

    Get Arky to do it Arma, and video it please.

    I’m definately not letting Arky anywhere near me. The dude is a nutter.

    I think everyone here has watched his videos? I rest my case. He’s fucking insane.

  126. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Amazing. Our fierce Navy personnel are too scared to march in the dark lest they slip and fall.

    Not fair on the junior ranks – they are just as embarrassed and humiliated as anyone else would be.

  127. vr

    Quant funds train sights on private equity market

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    Maths-savvy, computer-toting investors have already disrupted traditional tactics in asset management. Next in their sights is the red-hot private equity world.

    Private buyout funds are basking in enormous investor appetite, and have less pressure on fees than their counterparts in mainstream asset management.

    Morgan Stanley estimates that revenues from private capital will reach nearly $70bn a year by 2023, accounting for the biggest chunk of the global investment industry’s overall income by that point.

    That is attracting attention in parts of the quantitative investment industry, which sifts through huge data sets and markets for patterns they can exploit through automated, algorithmic trading. Some so-called quants are now exploring whether their systematic, data-intensive investment process can also work in more opaque, private corners of the system, potentially significantly lowering industry fees.

    “It’s been a dramatic enhancer of returns in every industry, and private equity will be no different,” said Wray Thorn, who oversees private investments and ventures businesses at Two Sigma, one of the world’s biggest quantitative hedge funds.

  128. Leigh Lowe

    The employee disciplinary matter is not so simple.
    In 2009 Energex CEO Greg Maddock threw himself in front of a train whilst being investigated for expense rorting.
    At the time I worked for a company run by a complete arsehole who declared “That is the way I’d get someone. There is always something in the expenses to hang them.”
    Worse still, the moron said it in front of our main customer, and it did not go down well (contract gone at the next opportunity).
    Anyway, I asked a friend of a friend who was then a partner in a law firm specialising in employment law and he laughed it off …
    “He better have some pretty tight expense policies and procedures, and he better have a track record of enforcing them. And if he audits one person’s expenses out of the blue to catch some trivial breach, and he has never audited anyone else, we are firmly in constructive dismissal territory. Oh, and I would make a file note of what he said and who was there because, having signalled his MO to get rid of people, he is screwed”.
    The point is, policy alone is not enough justification of itself. The ARU has to show that the targeting of Folau is consistent with the treatment of others, and they have not allowed a third party (Qantas) to insert themselves imto a a contract to which they are not a party.

  129. Rafiki redux

    Up-thread some asked: what was the point of the Australian Conervatives? It might be, post the May election, to offer join with the conservative wing of the defeated Liberals – either as the majority of the party or as a breakaway group. What AC has to offer is a large membership, many of whom would go along with thid plan.

  130. Des Deskperson

    ‘Under the expectation of a neutral environment where other employees were also similarly restricted ‘

    Tel, where have you been?? let me recap my previous comments:

    There is a single, uniform Rugby Australia code of conduct that applies to all players.

    This Code requires players to treat everyone equally, fairly and with dignity regardless of gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, ethnicity, cultural or religious background, age or disability.

    It also requires players using social media to abide, inter alia, by this requirement

    There is no evidence that Folau had imposed upon him any specific, unique conditions of behaviour or conduct that are additional to the code.

  131. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Crossbenchers face tougher test

    Jared Owens
    @jaredowens
    25 minutes ago April 15, 2019
    27 Comments

    Greens co-deputy leader Larissa Waters and Sarah Hanson-Young both face uphill battles to hold their seats in next month’s election, which is set to radically recolour the crossbench.

    After the 2016 double-dissolution election lowered the barrier for minor parties, political insiders widely anticipate nationalist Fraser Anning, independent Tim Storer, libertarian Duncan Spender and One Nation defector Brian Burston will all be swept out next month.

    After preferences, candidates must win at least 14.3 per cent of the vote in their state to claim one of six vacant Senate seats — a bar twice the height of last time, when there were twice as many seats up for grabs.

    In Queensland, the major parties are expected to win two seats each with disqualified One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts, who claims a cabal of bankers are using fabricated climate data to pursue world domination, widely tipped to take another.

    From the Oz. Please, God, you haven’t heard much from me since the big drought of 2002, but one small favor – throw these two WOFTAMS so far out on their fat arses, they’ll need a shanghai to deliver their termination payments…I’m not asking much..

  132. Rafiki redux

    Sorry about the typos.

  133. Rafiki redux

    Des – I think Leigh’s point is the code may have been selectively enforced to Folau’s detriment.

  134. Old Lefty

    Thanks zyconoclast for picking up on the conviction of Frank Valentine of NSW DOCS’ and Parramatta Girls’Home notoriety. Even Joanne McCarthy of former Fairfax has, mirabile dictu, been moved to report on an abuse case about someone other than a cleric. But not a peep on the ABC. I wonder why.

    Nor a peep about the record of DOCS head Coutts-Trotter (Plibersek’s other half) in litigating victims into the ground under the watch of nominal premier Keneally. Again, I wonder why.

  135. Cassie of Sydney

    “Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2988614, posted on April 15, 2019 at 9:26 pm
    Crossbenchers face tougher test

    Jared Owens
    @jaredowens
    25 minutes ago April 15, 2019
    27 Comments”

    Zulu, I have just posted this comment…..still in moderation…

    nationalist Fraser Anning

    disqualified One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts, who claims a cabal of bankers are using fabricated climate data to pursue world domination

    gun-advocating One Nation candidate Steve Dickson

    third-ranked Liberal candidate Gerard Rennick”

    I don’t know about others but I can’t help noticing the rather colourful descriptions used to describe the conservative and One Nation candidates whilst Senator Waters and Hanson-Young both seemed to have escaped such colourful descriptions. Why? There are probably quite a few “colourful” descriptors to describe Senator Hanson-Young….anyone else recall a whale watching expedition…with her daughter no less? I also recall that Senator Waters was “disqualified” too.

    Can we have some balance please?”

    Let’s see whether they publish it.

  136. Black Ball

    FMD Damien Barrett on Football Classified suggesting that the AFL erred in getting Folau and Karmichael Hunt playing the game in light of what Folau has said on Twitter. Barrett is glad that the ARU are ‘cracking down’ on this imaginary issue. Michael Hooper hardest hit.

  137. Armadillo

    Monday wasn’t the best day for the government to launch Online Harms, its white paper on internet regulatio

    As a board member of a small Bowlo, we are about to ban an Aboriginal member.

    This cuts both ways. You simply can’t sit on a bus and basically call everyone “White C’s”, “White Robbers” and “White Terrorists”.

    The dude is a University indoctrinated dolt. And this will happen more and more.

    He’s going. Cuts both ways. Racists are racists. Disgusting behaviour.

  138. disqualified One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts, who claims a cabal of bankers are using fabricated climate data to pursue world domination

    Hmmm….

    I have become more tolerant of tinfoil hat types lately.

    https://igcc.org.au/who-are-we/

    Who are we?

    The Investor Group on Climate Change (IGCC) is a collaboration of Australian and New Zealand investors focusing on the impact that climate change has on the financial value of investments.

    The IGCC represents institutional investors, with total funds under management of over $2 trillion, and others in the investment community interested in the impact of climate change on investments. The IGCC aims to encourage government policies and investment practices that address the risks and opportunities of climate change, for the ultimate benefit of superannuants and unit holders. We aim to:

    Raise awareness of the potential impacts, both positive and negative, resulting from climate change to the investment industry, corporate, government and community sectors;

    Encourage best practice approaches to facilitate the inclusion of the impacts of climate change in investment analysis by the investment industry; and

    Provide information to assist the investment industry to understand and incorporate climate change into the investment decision.

    This is not even secret, it is out in the open.

    What is in dispute is the magnitude of their goal and the veracity of the data relating to temperature readings.

  139. Leigh Lowe

    Des – I think Leigh’s point is the code may have been selectively enforced to Folau’s detriment.

    That is my point precisely.
    This cannot be a subjective call based on the likes and dislikes of the toxic leprechaun and the vicar of Dibley.
    I have no doubt they have had complaints about Poocock’s social activism (including being arrested after illegally trespassing on mine property and chaining himself to equipment).
    Has he been disciplined?
    If not, why not?
    “But Poocock believes in these issues deeply and is vewy passionate”.
    Hmmm, I could use those words to describe Folau.
    “But Folau has upset and hurt a lot of people.”
    Did not Poocock upset coal-miners by delaying or destroying job opportunities? How is that different?

  140. Armadillo

    A 10 year ban is appropriate. I’m arguing for a life ban.

  141. Leigh Lowe

    Black Ball

    #2988632, posted on April 15, 2019 at 9:35 pm

    FMD Damien Barrett on Football Classified suggesting that the AFL erred in getting Folau and Karmichael Hunt playing the game in light of what Folau has said on Twitter. Barrett is glad that the ARU are ‘cracking down’ on this imaginary issue. 

    Saw that too.
    Anyone know how to get vomit out of velour pajamas?

  142. As a board member of a small Bowlo, we are about to ban an Aboriginal member.

    This cuts both ways. You simply can’t sit on a bus and basically call everyone “White C’s”, “White Robbers” and “White Terrorists”.

    The dude is a University indoctrinated dolt.

    I am a proud member of the Waidakund tribe.

  143. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Dunno how much of this has been leaked before, but found 2 interesting ones so far.

    Only in a government planning document would you find an section titled “Appendix E. Funding uneconomic services”.
    https://file.wikileaks.org/file/australian-national-broadband-network.pdf

    In its 2007 submission to the DCITA review of the USO, the ACCC outlined its preference to introduce contestability for the provision of universal service. Contestability gives the market the opportunity to determine the size of the subsidy — such a ‘market based’ approach can: […]
    • avoid the high cost of developing cost models.
    It also removes the ability for carriers to subsequently contend that subsidies are
    insufficient.

    Amazing stuff. Let the telcos ask for however much subsidy they want. Beats having to figure out the cost of the whole NBN scheme when you can just let the telcos ask for whatever subsidy they desire.
    Yep, that’s our Rudd!

    Also a bit of dirt on John Howard’s Department of Health and Aging.
    https://file.wikileaks.org/file/au-dha-sydney-medical-students-foi-2009.pdf
    Back in 2000 the department said that medical students who withdraw from a federally funded bonded-service scholarship cannot have that place funded by other non-departmental sources. i.e. The taxpayer pays for your medical degree but you have to do your time as local doctor in whatever back-of-Burke town they send you to. Anyone ducking out of this programme to avoid the country conscription cannot have that course funded by some other source with less strings attached. Stops deserters. At least that was the reason claimed. Turns out the real reason was that the government was trying to suppress the number of medical graduates that year.
    Can’t have competition amongst doctors. That might drive down prices. Then how would they afford their Saturday morning tee-offs with the Judges?

    That lad Julian has been busy for a very long time.

  144. Nick

    You can say that climate ‘deniers’ should be branded, you can say that white men have created all that’s wrong in society, but you can’t say that gays will go to a place when they die, that most don’t even believe in.

  145. Top Ender

    Judge not Israel Folau for his religious beliefs
    CHRIS KENNY

    Israel Folau is our most promiscuous trans-code footballer, having played league, union and Aussie rules professionally. As such he will be familiar with scandals where players have sullied those codes with ugly exploits ­including sexual assault, public drunkenness, drug-taking, violence, explicit videos, bestiality pics, hallway defecation, group sex and heaven knows what else.

    It must strike Folau as somewhat unusual that while in many cases the players involved in these sordid episodes continued their careers, his public declarations about his devout Christianity and old-fashioned morality could end his career. It seems he would be in less strife if he’d been caught sniffing cocaine from the buttocks of a teammate — when he could at least blame homophobia for some of the scorn. It might be unsettling, even to nonbelievers, to have someone suggest your lifestyle is so sinful you should suffer eternal damnation. I don’t agree with Folau’s judgmental religious views — indeed, if there is a hell and his rules for admission turned out to be authentic, I would see many of you down there.

    Indeed, I would be tempted to quote the Gospel of Matthew back to Folau: “Judge not, that ye be not judged.” But, really, what do we care what he thinks? He is not St Peter, and as far as I am aware has no direct input into decisions made at the Pearly Gates — although given they say union is the game they play in heaven, perhaps he has a few connections.

    Surely in their quieter ­moments, fornicators, thieves, adulterers and drunks might ­accept the questionable morality of their behaviour. But assigning people to fire and brimstone merely because of their sexuality is a slight of a different order; it is condemnation based on identity and therefore is more offensive, intolerant and unacceptable. Yet it is not a simple matter and the blanket condemnation of Folau and heavy-handed approach of the Australian Rugby Union seems to be a worrying new infringement on freedom of speech. Folau was not vilifying anyone or bullying them; he was expressing his ­religious belief that they were sinning and would suffer the consequences. He expressed love for all and a desire for them to resist this fate. Yet we also know his message was meddling, pious, judgmental, morally superior and replete with virtue-signalling — these are the traits of the preachy Left on a range of issues from border protection to climate change.

    If you indulge in sex before marriage it might or might not concern you that strict Christians, Muslims and Hindus would ­believe you a sinner or morally weak. Likewise, if you engage in homosexual, lesbian or even particular heterosexual acts.

    This stuff is best left to individuals. It can get quite complicated.

    A dear, late, gay friend of mine surprised me when he converted to Catholicism late in life and adopted a conservative, Latin-mass disposition (many readers will remember Christopher Pearson fondly). When I inquired what this meant for his lifestyle, Christopher said he bore no sense of shame about his sexual orientation but believed it was sinful to act upon it, just as it would be sinful for a married person to have an affair. Whether or not he lived up to that ideal I don’t know or care but here was a gay, Christian man who would have agreed with Folau.

    Whether we are sinners or saints, or believe in the concept of sin at all, Folau’s views should hardly matter to us. Either way, it is just one bloke’s virtue-signalling. According to the inane signs posted by Gosford’s Anglican priest, Rod Bower, just about anyone who votes right-of-centre is headed for hell.

    Whatever contractual obligations Folau agreed to it cannot be a hanging offence to share a truly held religious belief; especially one that is widely understood, if not endorsed.

    This is a tricky area for many employers. SBS reporter Scott McIntyre lost his job in 2015 after tweeting about Anzac Day and maligning Diggers as rapists and thieves while labelling Anzac crowds as drunks and white ­nationalists. This was more ­deliberately offensive and the professional overlap was more of a problem. (He and SBS later settled an unfair dismissal case.) No one would pretend Folau’s tweets about religion have any endorsement or connection to the ARU or his teammates. He should be afforded greater latitude under protections for ­religious freedom and, besides, we all know Folau’s tweets ­reflect personal beliefs that are his business, not the Wallabies’.

    That the NRL’s Peter Beattie quickly declared Folau would not be welcomed back to league ranks is laughable. Either the NRL wants to use this conservative Christian to grandstand against homophobia to try to claw back from its own sex, drugs and domestic violence scandals, or it just doesn’t think Folau would fit in on its end-of-season trips.

    The bottom line for this champion rugby player and the rest of us is that while social media comments are your prerogative rather than your employer’s, they will reflect on your character and reputation. And it you feel any of your values might conflict with those of your ­employer, then the outrage factory of social media is a dangerous place to air them.

    Oz Link

  146. Des Deskperson

    ‘Des – I think Leigh’s point is the code may have been selectively enforced to Folau’s detriment.’

    I posted before I read Leigh’s comments, and yes, he makes an important point.

    It depends on whether there are any other players who may have breached ss 1.3 and 1.7 of the Code despite warnings but have been let off. There is no evidence yet of this. Bwana Pocock’s sanctimonious views on social media may be odious to many – including me – but they do not breach s.1.3.

  147. Thanks Colonel, I will pass on that intel to my usual suspects at HQ.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    As a board member of a small Bowlo, we are about to ban an Aboriginal member.

    Call Raelene and Allan.
    They are all over railroading brown people.

  149. Fuggit Colonel, this stuff is very spicy and ought to be front page news. Goddamn we live in a shithole.

    All we need is some clown wigs and thoroughfare defecation.

  150. Des Deskperson

    On the other hand, there is this phrase in s 1.8 of the Code:

    ‘If you commit a criminal offence, this is likely to adversely reflect on you and your team, club, Rugby Body and Rugby.’

    Has Bwana Pocock ever been convicted of a criminal offence as a result of his ‘beliefs’?? if so, was any action taken against him by RA??

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Process and procedures aside, I think the ARU and their key sponsor have made a gross miscalculation.
    I am sure they have (ahem) reams of focus group reports that Rugger supporters care deeply about issues, social cohesion, sportsmanship, yadda, yadda.
    Bzzzzt … wrong.
    When it comes to the RWC, the supporters care about WINNING or, failing that, at least a competitive performance.
    I predict they will get none of that, and the heat will fall on Cheika, The Vicar and all those other non-entity coaches lining up to push Folau under the bus.
    I further predict that, within six months of the RWC, all of them will be gone and the main agitator (Qantas) will drop sponsorship.

  152. Leigh Lowe

    Has Bwana Pocock ever been convicted of a criminal offence as a result of his ‘beliefs’??

    Yes.

    Pocock, 26, was charged with entering and remaining on enclosed lands and hindering the working of mining equipment.

    Those charges were withdrawn and dismissed and Pocock pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of hindering workmen.

    if so, was any action taken against him by RA??

    No.

  153. Armadillo

    They are all over railroading brown people.

    I don’t think they would get it. No one had a problem with the dude having an opinion. If he has an opinion about “stolen generations” and “stolen lands”, that’s fine. Make your case.

    The issue was him personally abusing people unilaterally.

    There were mostly older gentlemen on the bus, and 3 older ladies in particular. I’m pretty sure none of them were on the first fleet.

  154. Should Izzy go to the AAT?

    It would be great just to see the ARU squirm.

  155. Leigh Lowe

    I assume you are describing the brudder, Arma, not Folau?

  156. Nick

    So, The ARU rewarded a convicted criminal with a year’s paid sabbatical and have sacked a player of colour ? Strange that the last player to have been disciplined was also a player of colour.

  157. Armadillo

    I’m sure of it. One of the ladies looked really Asian.

  158. To wit:

    “as you know, the Commonwealth is working towards containing the overall numbers of medical students graduating…”

    Fucking hell.

    This is not front page news?

  159. mh

    So, The ARU rewarded a convicted criminal with a year’s paid sabbatical and have sacked a player of colour? Strange that the last player to have been disciplined was also a player of colour.

    The old school tie brigade hate the darkies getting uppity.

  160. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Crossbenchers face tougher test

    Frabjous fvcking joy, that useless piss pot Derryn Hunch has to face the voters. Ban the live sheep trade, my hairy aunt.

  161. zyconoclast

    nationalist Fraser Anning
    disqualified One Nation
    gun-advocating One Nation

    Beats the hell out of Anonymous AusCons

  162. Des Deskperson

    Thanks, Leigh.

    Very interesting!

  163. Leigh Lowe

    Technically, Des, the Code of Conduct may not have been in force when Poocock was convicted.
    Which raises a point.
    When was it introduced or amended?
    I’ll bet it was the last time Izzy said something Jesusy.

  164. dover_beach

    This Code requires players to treat everyone equally, fairly and with dignity regardless of gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, ethnicity, cultural or religious background, age or disability.

    It also requires players using social media to abide, inter alia, by this requirement

    How does Folau’s tweet contravene that clause? He asked people who maybe engaged in illicit acts, that God loves them but they must repent and return or face damnation. Not clear how that at all doesn’t’t treat them with dignity.

  165. https://therealnews.com/stories/ecuadorian-presidents-motives-for-surrendering-assange-vengeance-imf-loan

    That’s one set of reasons. And the recent allegations of the New York Times that the IMF loan had been conditioned–just below $4 billion, or a little bit over $4 billion IMF loan, agreen between the IMF and Ecuador–was agreed by the United States upon sort of handing over Julian Assange. That’s the one set of the–the first reason. The second reason, I think, is a more sort of personal, I would say even vindictive, reason. Moreno is facing some very serious corruption allegations. They just discovered two bank accounts, one in Belize, one in Panama, held by his brother, where it appears that there have been bribes deposited on those bank accounts. And then money spent by Moreno himself in various parts of the world, including in Spain, where he appears to have bought an apartment.

  166. Leigh Lowe

    How does Folau’s tweet contravene that clause? He asked people who maybe engaged in illicit acts, that God loves them but they must repent and return or face damnation. Not clear how that at all doesn’t’t treat them with dignity.

    And, if they don’t believe in hell, why do they give a shit?
    It would be great to put a procession of complainants on the stand and ask them that …
    “Do you believe in hell, or any form of eternal damnation?”
    “Um, no, not really”
    “Then why do you claim to be hurt by something you are convinced will never happen?”
    “It’s, just … not very nice.”

  167. Nick

    The Guardian:

    Pocock spent 10 hours chained both to a digger and to local farmer and fellow protester Rick Laird. They were arrested and later appeared in court together. “I was given an 18-month good behaviour bond,” says Laird. “Dave got released without any restrictions at all, which must have pleased his coaches since they didn’t want to have it interfere with his career.

    The ABC:

    In October last year, Pocock took a swipe at former prime Tony Abbott for urging European leaders to close their borders to asylum seekers.

    Rugby star and social activist David Pocock has urged the nation to take stock of its shortcomings on January 26 this year, during his first speech as the ACT’s Australia Day ambassador.

    Known for his work on the field as a star flanker with the ACT Brumbies and the Wallabies, Pocock is also a vocal advocate for environmental and social issues.

    He said the nation had much to celebrate and be proud of, but Australia Day was also a day to reflect “on how we have dealt with, and continue to deal with, the tragedies of our past”.

    Strange that Folau has been seen as being more divisive, and that coaches are happy to interfere with his career….

  168. Armadillo

    Everyone must pay for the sins of their fathers. Never mind if their fathers had zippo to do with it. It’s the “colour of their skin” that actually counts.

    This is what the left has been hammering everyone about from day dot.

    The hypocricy, duplicity and stupidity is absolutely astounding.

    It’s all about “victimhood”. Everything. Hollywood is the greatest slave to it.

    Arky is like a Forrest Gump on steroids. With a hit of ice in the garden shed for good measure.

    This is where we are at. Sad.

  169. Leigh Lowe

    Damn straight, Nick.
    If this goes to court, expect a QC to make hay over the indulgences shown to the white Zimbanwean activist which were not extended to the Christian Pacific Islander.

  170. mh

    The legal discussions are important, but there is only one reason this Folau farce is happening – because progressives are at war with Christianity which they see as an obstacle to the progressive agenda.

    Progressivism meaning transgenderism, late term/post birth abortion, drag queens teaching your children, man-boy love. Homosexual marriage was just a gateway.

    Sport is being taken over by the Left in order to move along the progressive agenda. Rainbow lace matches for the juniors. It’s why Peter Beattie has been appointed as Australian Rugby League chairman despite knowing absolutely nothing about the game.

  171. Black Ball

    Bill Shorten has his ads running I see, proclaiming that Labor are the party of the people, health will be restored, he is a family man and nauseum. Tell me this ladies and gentlemen, if health spending goes up every year, then the government of the day cuts spending by 2 billion even though the largesse is still there, is it classified as detrimental to health?

  172. Infidel Tiger

    Get Pell
    Get Folau

    I’m sure it ends there.

  173. Nick

    Strange that Pocock hates coal owing to its ‘polluting’ effect, yet has no problem with Qantas, a business that would emit air pollutants by the tonne each day,

  174. Armadillo

    FFS. Arky, are you considering building a replica of the “Cutty Sark”?

    Finish the Model A first.

  175. dover_beach

    “Then why do you claim to be hurt by something you are convinced will never happen?”

    Oh, they may feel hurt but that doesn’t mean their dignity was compromised.

  176. Confused Old Misfit

    This is where we are at. Sad.

    What do you mean “WE”, Chlamyphorus truncatus?

  177. Armadillo

    Or go to one of those car shows, pretend you have money and take a Model A for a “Test Drive” and video yourself.

    Post it at “The Cat”.

  178. Stimpson J. Cat

    He asked people who maybe engaged in illicit acts, that God loves them but they must repent and return or face damnation. Not clear how that at all doesn’t’t treat them with dignity.

    What is this must business?

    F$ck your must.

    Stupid Sane f$cking Humans presuming to speak for Omniscient Beings that they literally can’t even f$cking hear now, let alone three thousand years ago.

    Look, these Godsquad Happyclappers are starting to annoy me now.

    Maybe shut the f$ck up and just play the game you are paid millions to you dopey idjits.

    If you want to preach f$ck off and buy a box in a Park to stand on like the professionals.

  179. cohenite

    disqualified One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts, who claims a cabal of bankers are using fabricated climate data to pursue world domination

    That’s bullshit; Malcolm knows the UN is doing it. The leech bankers are just hoovering up the profits.

  180. mh

    First they came for Israel Folau

    Then they came for me. “Straight White Men Are Canceled”
    https://summit.news/2019/04/15/new-netflix-show-jokes-straight-white-men-are-canceled/

  181. cohenite

    This is the CEO of Australian rugby.

    Goddam she’s a looker.

  182. JC

    The leech bankers are just hoovering up the profits.

    Care to explain these profits they’re gunning for?

  183. Confused Old Misfit

    cohenite
    #2988824, posted on April 15, 2019 at 10:54 pm

    This is the CEO of Australian rugby.

    Goddam she’s a looker.

    Are you off your meds old friend?
    Tell me you had the sarc > tag on?
    Please?

  184. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2988787, posted on April 15, 2019 at 10:43 pm

    Get Pell
    Get Folau

    I’m sure it ends there

    Probably.
    I’ll let you know when they finish identifying the 30,000 likes in Folau’s Instagram post.

  185. Steve trickler

    This is a really sad story.



  186. Armadillo

    Arky
    #2988806, posted on April 15, 2019 at 10:49 pm

    LOL.

  187. Armadillo

    I’m not the slightest bit surprised.

  188. TBH

    FMD Damien Barrett on Football Classified suggesting that the AFL erred in getting Folau and Karmichael Hunt playing the game in light of what Folau has said on Twitter. Barrett is glad that the ARU are ‘cracking down’ on this imaginary issue. Michael Hooper hardest hit.

    That bloke is a flog, just like those other sanctimonious idiots Caroline Wilson, Craig Hutchison and Garry Lyon.

  189. Armadillo

    Goddam she’s a looker.

    Sinc, please ban Cohinite. Permanently.

  190. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2988787, posted on April 15, 2019 at 10:43 pm

    Get Pell
    Get Folau

    I’m sure it ends there

    Hmmm.
    Just thinking.
    This could be a good opportunity to sacrifice a few church guitarists, though.
    Every cloud …

  191. mh

    Men with beards carry more germs than dogs including deadly bacteria in facial fuzz, study claims

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sun-men/8860464/men-beards-germs-dogs-bacteria/

  192. Leigh Lowe

    cohenite
    #2988824, posted on April 15, 2019 at 10:54 pm

    This is the CEO of Australian rugby.

    Goddam she’s a looker.

    For the second time tonight … does anyone know how to get vomit off velour pajamas?
    I think I owe the Vicar of Dibley an apology.

  193. None

    there is no social media clause in Izzy Folau is contract there was only some informal agreements at meetings for which minutes were taken.

    Even if such agreements were made I wonder if you can still argue that he had more restrictions placed on him than any other player. Basically too they have to show why they are favour and gays and not drunks and adulterers and fornicators.

  194. None

    Someone already started a go fund me page for Izzy within an hour of the news coming out; naturally there is no identification and they can’t even spell the guy’s name right. As far as I can tell Izzy has 48 hours to respond to something and otherwise he goes before some code of conduct whatever. Good luck with that rugby Australia because whatever happens now you’ve lost.

  195. Leigh Lowe

    Blessed are the punctuators, for clarity will be their reward.

  196. Knuckle Dragger

    Arma,

    A life ban, Association-wide if possible and a firm boot fair in the arse on his way out.

    For swearing front of old ladies, if nothing else.

    My old Mum plays bowls, and goes on plenty of bus trips doing it. Anyone using that language in front of her would find it very hard to swear without teeth.

    Honour demands it.

  197. Leigh Lowe

    Here, None, have some of mine …
    .,,.,..!?..”:-”
    .
    You’re welcome.

  198. None

    The media is very dishonest. It just shows the poster part of Izzy’so Instagram post; underneath it he actually had three quotes from the Bible which put it in context. Like I said I don’t think he’s well catechized because being gay per say is neither here nor there but there was nothing in his entire Post that should offend anyone who’s been alive in the last 2000 years.

  199. None

    Sorry Lee but you know if I spent all my time trying to get this software to insert punctuation, it would be more unreadable than what it is now.

  200. Knuckle Dragger

    Yeah, yeah cohenite.

    She’s a real keeper.

    As in, ‘Keeper the f*ck away from me’.

    Damn. Looks like an obese Frank N Furter.

  201. Armadillo

    CEO’s seem to be able to pontificate on any social issue they want to.

    I’m struggling to see how employees should be penalised for airing their personal views on social media, provided that they aren’t dissing their employer.

    Bear in mind that a CEO is an employee, not some sort of God. He doesn’t own the fucking company. The shareholders do. By that standard, Alan Joyce should have a case to answer. So should the rest of them.

  202. JC

    I’m struggling to see how employees should be penalised for airing their personal views on social media, provided that they aren’t dissing their employer.

    You’re fucked if you sign a contract with a morality clause. Don’t sign a contract with that provision.

  203. jupes

    Who was he? Anyone know? I couldn’t tell his rank – there was too much glittery stuff.

    Angus Campbell – Chief of the Defence Force.

    A smug fuckwit who didn’t even bother to read up on the decision for the sailors not to march in the dark and was so clueless that he referred to the Commanding Officer of HMAS Albatross as a “he”. The fact is the CO is a fat lezzo lawyer who was only given the command because of changes brought about by the Sex Discrimination Commissioner’s report, which recommended that previously unqualified women (such as lawyers) be given command positions.

    BTW where was Fraser Anning to question the dickhead? He did a great job a while back making Campbell tap-dance about women in the infantry.

  204. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’ve never had or seen dripping or lard used anywhere.

    There were a lot of things in our house you’d never see anywhere else, Candy. 🙂

    An old farm rental on the backblocks of Mt Druitt may have been a change from public housing, but in many ways it was a step backwards. Money was chronically short, mum was chronically lonely and depressed and sometimes talking to people who weren’t actually there, dad was turning violent with his general paranoia; so we had a tin for the dripping… just as my Welsh nana had always had too. It made mum feel secure somehow.

    Tough times. I suspect you’d still find dripping tins in similar households out that way even now.
    They were a sort of institutional badge of making do, certainly amongst English migrants.

  205. BTW where was Fraser Anning to question the dickhead? He did a great job a while back making Campbell tap-dance about women in the infantry.

    Huh? Did I miss something?

  206. I’ve never had or seen dripping or lard used anywhere.

    I struggle with this, unless you’re younger than 30

  207. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Men with beards carry more germs than dogs including deadly bacteria in facial fuzz, study claims

    Imagine life in the nineteenth century when beards were very fashionable.
    To say nothing of the environs of current known beard fanatics.

    The Romans had the right idea; beards were for barbarians.
    The Empire started to decline when Hadrian grew a beard.

  208. Armadillo

    Association-wide if possible and a firm boot fair in the arse on his way out.

    It was on the bus home from Pennants, not on the club premises.

    The Zone Association can’t act. Rules and regulations and stuff. I’m pretty sure that this is where “self regulation” fits in. At the end of the day, every club knows. Everyone knows.

    It’s exactly the reason why Governments and ever increasing “Rules and Regulations” will never succeed.

    Deep inside every person, they know the difference between “right and wrong”, and “good and evil”.

    There is a tipping point whereby “enough is enough”.

  209. Armadillo

    You’re fucked if you sign a contract with a morality clause. Don’t sign a contract with that provision.

    If “morality clauses” became common place, no one would be employed.

    Not in my game anyway. Lack of morals is a virtue, not a sin.

  210. JC

    Look, it was that hypocritical little Irish prick at Qantas who seems to have caused all the trouble by threatening to withdraw his firm’s sponsorship if they didn’t punish the guy.
    Qantas shares a code/partnership with one of those Mid Eastern airlines where the nation has very strict laws against homosexuality.

  211. Knuckle Dragger

    Stuff him then Arma.

    The next time he darkens the bowlo door, turf his foul arse out in the street and tell him to piss off and never come back.

  212. C.L.

    Why is Frank Thring’s daughter in charge of Australian rugby?

  213. Armadillo

    The Romans had the right idea; beards were for barbarians.

    There are very few depictions of historical figures with beards.

    Maybe Moses or one of those blokes. I certainly haven’t seen many sculptures of them. Sometimes in paintings.

    A sign of wealth perhaps? Your average dude isn’t going to emerge from his hovel, “lather up” and have a shave with the sharpest instrument available (possibly a rock).

    I suspect most blokes had beards. In fact, the large majority.

  214. Armadillo

    The MSM of the time lied with their paintings.

    Blokes had beards. Sheliahs probably had them as well.

  215. None

    Bloody hell they have banned Barry Humphries from the Melbourne comedy festival for transphobic comments he made last year. God knows what they were, something like men are not women I suppose.

  216. Knuckle Dragger

    None,

    He described transgenderism as ‘self-mutilation’ and a ‘fashion’ and called teachers crazy for promoting it.

    I know right?

  217. C.L.

    Kowtowing to homosexuals has really worked out well, hasn’t it libertarians?
    I remember the old debates here and elsewhere, as LDP-ers out-did each other with ostentatious displays of commitment to the gay lobby’s causes, over against Christians in the public square who were a threat to freedoms. Good call, morons.
    What can you do about it now?
    Only this: hold our beers …

  218. JC

    What have libertarians done supporting the rugby dude being fired?

  219. None

    Libertarians? What a libertarians done? Sweet FA.

  220. JC

    Maxine Waters’s generosity is incomparable. She never ever stops giving stupid. Fuck she’s a moron.

    House Financial Services Committee Chair Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) tried to hold three bank CEOs accountable for the student loan crisis – until one of them pointed out to her that the federal government took over the student loan business back in 2010.

    At a committee hearing on Wednesday, Rep. Waters spelled out the crisis and demanded to know “What are you guys doing to help us with this student loan debt?” One by one, beginning with Bank of America CEO Brian Monahan, Waters called on the bank heads. After the first two told her that their banks exited the student loan business years earlier, JP Morgan’s James Dimon explained to Rep. Waters that the government had taken over student lending back in 2010.

    https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/maxine-waters-asks-3-bank-ceos-how-theyre-fixing-student-loan-crisis-learning

  221. None

    Indeed KD. Hey let’s castrate kids. Progress.

  222. Armadillo

    Look, it was that hypocritical little Irish prick at Qantas who seems to have caused all the trouble by threatening to withdraw his firm’s sponsorship if they didn’t punish the guy.

    It’s not his firm. The retarded duplicit Irish dwarf butt fuxker thinks he owns it. NO. He doesn’t. He’s an employee.

    An openly gay man dealing with one of the most notoriously gay hating countries in the world is enough to raise eyebrows. What’s the go with that? The board itself needs to answer that question.

    Qantas is an Australian icon.

  223. None

    Ansett was an Australian icon and the Irish dwarf drove into bankruptcy and non existence.

  224. JC

    It’s not his firm.

    I’m pretty sure it’s been finagled in a way where the board support his actions.

  225. Armadillo

    I’m pretty sick of getting emails from political parties asking for “just $10 a month” so they can get into Government. It’s pretty rude when you think about it.

    I’d much prefer to sponsor a nephew or niece to pay their education bills.

  226. pbw

    Des,

    This Code requires players to treat everyone equally, fairly and with dignity regardless of gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, ethnicity, cultural or religious background, age or disability.

    It also requires players using social media to abide, inter alia, by this requirement

    How has Israel conceivably violated this requirement? Isn’t it F0lau’s view that everyone must be treated equally and fairly with respect to his behaviour, and that his equal treatment is a measure of his dignity – that is, his freedom to choose to live in accordance with the expectations of God, or to sin? Folau is re-affirming the dignity and equality of all before God.

  227. bespoke

    I’m struggling to see how employees should be penalised for airing their personal views on social media, provided that they aren’t dissing their employer.

    Old labor claimed it was against employers interfering in personal matters.

  228. Armadillo

    I’m pretty sure it’s been finagled in a way where the board support his actions.

    Yep. Of course. But what does this tell you about Alan Joyce as a person? As a gay man, dealing with the devil? A country that would in prison and hang his kinfolk. A country that would persecute Mrs JC for daring to show her hair in public?

    He might have “done a deal” whereby that doesn’t matter in the airport or certain hotels. Fine. But where does that leave him morally?

    In the gutter. Like the grub he is.

  229. Steve trickler

    This footage is not from a space agency.

    Just remember that.



    The next time you clap eyes on the moon?….these blokes with their equipment, provide a stunning show…..

    Unprecedented.

  230. Armadillo

    Steve, you owe me some where between 1 and 2 minutes of my life.

    I’m surprised I watched it that long.

    FMD. Sinc, please ban Steve trickler.

  231. bespoke

    A sign of wealth perhaps? Your average dude isn’t going to emerge from his hovel, “lather up” and have a shave with the sharpest instrument available (possibly a rock).

    The blokes that built the bridges and roads are boring compared to the ones the sent them to war.

  232. Armadillo

    Best video that’s been posted tonight, Bespoke.

    Can’t vouch that I watched all of it. I generally get bored at the 2 minute mark.

    I’m going to assume that the Cat lives “happily ever after”.

  233. Armadillo

    Arky, your Model A videos would work much better if you did the “fast forward” thingy. You could cut down 6 minutes of absolute boredom to 60 seconds.

    And don’t talk. It puts people off. No one understands your accent anyway, so it won’t make any difference. Maybe put some music to it? Preferably in the Queens English.

    [Armadillo Tip: NOT “Crowded House”]

  234. Armadillo

    Jimmy Barnes would be OK. Everyone understands what he’s saying.

  235. cohenite
    #2988824

    Hmm, so Ray Castle is a Tranny now?

  236. Zatara

    The Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris is afire.

    No word on the cause yet but part of the Cathedral was reportedly being refurbished.

  237. will

    POOR PENALISED, RICH ROLL ON
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph
    April 15, 2019 4:40pm
    A pattern is emerging. Overwhelmingly, actual and proposed climate change remedies tend to target the less well-off while the wealthy carry on without hindrance.

    This is evident in such schemes as solar rebates, where average-income workers cover the costs for those with sufficient spare capital to invest in solar panels.
    The Tesla electric car company has received enormous taxation grants from a number of governments. Those grants, again, are financed by the taxes paid by ordinary citizens. But few ordinary citizens can buy Teslas, which currently begin in Australia at around $105,000 and top out at $250,000.

    Rich inner-city Greens voters adored the Gillard government’s carbon tax, in large part because they could easily afford to pay it. For families experiencing financial stress, however, the carbon tax was just another burden.
    And look at Australia’s huge power bills, driven sky-high by government policies favouring renewables at the expense of cheaper coal-fired plants. The rich can deal with it. The poor will be lining up again this winter to pick up warm clothing from charities.

    As well, the wealthiest businesses can absorb higher power bills. But what of businesses just getting by, or under pressure from stockholders? They won’t be putting on new staff. More likely they will be examining possible relocations overseas.

    And now we have another example of climate change policy favouring those at the top end of the economic table.
    Suppose you are in the market for a new entry-level Ford Ranger or a basic Toyota Corolla. Under Labor’s plan to reduce emissions, you could be penalised because those models do not come in below Labor’s aggressive carbon dioxide emissions levels.

    But suppose you have a ton of spare cash and want to blow some of it on an Aston Martin, Rolls-Royce or Maserati. These high-end vehicles, too, fail Labor’s emissions test.

    Yet they are unlikely to attract any penalties due to exclusions for any car companies selling fewer than 2500 vehicles a year in Australia.

    That ruling would basically apply to just about every high-end car manufacturer. So, if you’re cashed up, you yet again dodge any carbon punishment.

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