Monday Forum: April 15, 2019

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  1. Arky

    The thing to do when I was in high school was to bunk off school, take a bus to Cathedral square, play spacies and listen to the wizard:


  2. duncan – the spaminator auto moderates you for a while if you break too many rules. Not even the doomlord can alter this. Come back on the new thread where everyone will read what you put up.

    Even guest post it, email Sinclair.

  3. duncanm

    Ta Frank,

    I’ll try in the next thread.

  4. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    9m
    Wow! FBI made 11 payments to Fake Dossier’s discredited author, Trump hater Christopher Steele.
    @OANN
    @JudicialWatch
    The Witch Hunt has been a total fraud on your President and the American people! It was brought to you by Dirty Cops, Crooked Hillary and the DNC.

  5. cohenite

    Is there a word limit now?

    I try to restrict my comments to no.

  6. Leigh Lowe

    A society without shame is a despicable and vile place to live.

    We need to make shame popular again.

    We need so much more of it.

    No need to rub it in.
    Tom and Mark have suffered enough following Caaaarrrrlton.

  7. zyconoclast

    Summary:
    When it’s good, its the homos and lezzos what done it
    When it’s bad, it is the hetero society what done it.

    Let’s discuss your closeted lesbian tendencies, None.

    Discuss.

    Link from your link

    Why Gay Parents May Be the Best Parents

    Gay marriage, and especially gay parenting, has been in the cross hairs in recent days.

    On Jan. 6, Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum told a New Hampshire audience that children are better off with a father in prison than being raised in a home with lesbian parents and no father at all. And last Monday (Jan. 9), Pope Benedict called gay marriage a threat “to the future of humanity itself,” citing the need for children to have heterosexual homes.

    But research on families headed by gays and lesbians doesn’t back up these dire assertions. In fact, in some ways, gay parents may bring talents to the table that straight parents don’t.

    Gay parents “tend to be more motivated, more committed than heterosexual parents on average, because they chose to be parents,” said Abbie Goldberg, a psychologist at Clark University in Massachusetts who researches gay and lesbian parenting. Gays and lesbians rarely become parents by accident, compared with an almost 50 percent accidental pregnancy rate among heterosexuals, Goldberg said. “That translates to greater commitment on average and more involvement.”

    And while research indicates that kids of gay parents show few differences in achievement, mental health, social functioning and other measures, these kids may have the advantage of open-mindedness, tolerance and role models for equitable relationships, according to some research. Not only that, but gays and lesbians are likely to provide homes for difficult-to-place children in the foster system, studies show. (Of course, this isn’t to say that heterosexual parents can’t bring these same qualities to the parenting table.) [5 Myths About Gay People Debunked]

    Adopting the neediest

    Gay adoption recently caused controversy in Illinois, where Catholic Charities adoption services decided in November to cease offering services because the state refused funding unless the groups agreed not to discriminate against gays and lesbians. Rather than comply, Catholic Charities closed up shop.

    Catholic opposition aside, research suggests that gay and lesbian parents are actually a powerful resource for kids in need of adoption. According to a 2007 report by the Williams Institute and the Urban Institute, 65,000 kids were living with adoptive gay parents between 2000 and 2002, with another 14,000 in foster homes headed by gays and lesbians. (There are currently more than 100,000 kids in foster care in the U.S.)

    An October 2011 report by Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute found that, of gay and lesbian adoptions at more than 300 agencies, 10 percent of the kids placed were older than 6 — typically a very difficult age to adopt out. About 25 percent were older than 3. Sixty percent of gay and lesbian couples adopted across races, which is important given that minority children in the foster system tend to linger. More than half of the kids adopted by gays and lesbians had special needs.

    The report didn’t compare the adoption preferences of gay couples directly with those of heterosexual couples, said author David Brodzinsky, research director at the Institute and co-editor of “Adoption By Lesbians and Gay Men: A New Dimension of Family Diversity” (Oxford University Press, 2011). But research suggests that gays and lesbians are more likely than heterosexuals to adopt older, special-needs and minority children, he said. Part of that could be their own preferences, and part could be because of discrimination by adoption agencies that puts more difficult children with what caseworkers see as “less desirable” parents.

    No matter how you slice it, Brodzinsky told LiveScience, gays and lesbians are highly interested in adoption as a group. The 2007 report by the Urban Institute also found that more than half of gay men and 41 percent of lesbians in the U.S. would like to adopt. That adds up to an estimated 2 million gay people who are interested in adoption. It’s a huge reservoir of potential parents who could get kids out of the instability of the foster system, Brodzinsky said.

    “When you think about the 114,000 children who are freed for adoption who continue to live in foster care and who are not being readily adopted, the goal is to increase the pool of available, interested and well-trained individuals to parent these children,” Brodzinsky said.

    In addition, Brodzinsky said, there’s evidence to suggest that gays and lesbians are especially accepting of open adoptions, where the child retains some contact with his or her birth parents. And the statistics bear out that birth parents often have no problem with their kids being raised by same-sex couples, he added.

    “Interestingly, we find that a small percentage, but enough to be noteworthy, [of birth mothers] make a conscious decision to place with gay men, so they can be the only mother in their child’s life,” Brodzinsky said.

    Good parenting

    Research has shown that the kids of same-sex couples — both adopted and biological kids — fare no worse than the kids of straight couples on mental health, social functioning, school performance and a variety of other life-success measures.

    In a 2010 review of virtually every study on gay parenting, New York University sociologist Judith Stacey and University of Southern California sociologist Tim Biblarz found no differences between children raised in homes with two heterosexual parents and children raised with lesbian parents.

    “There’s no doubt whatsoever from the research that children with two lesbian parents are growing up to be just as well-adjusted and successful” as children with a male and a female parent,” Stacey told LiveScience.

    There is very little research on the children of gay men, so Stacey and Biblarz couldn’t draw conclusions on those families. But Stacey suspects that gay men “will be the best parents on average,” she said.

    That’s a speculation, she said, but if lesbian parents have to really plan to have a child, it’s even harder for gay men. Those who decide to do it are thus likely to be extremely committed, Stacey said. Gay men may also experience fewer parenting conflicts, she added. Most lesbians use donor sperm to have a child, so one mother is biological and the other is not, which could create conflict because one mother may feel closer to the kid.

    “With gay men, you don’t have that factor,” she said. “Neither of them gets pregnant, neither of them breast-feeds, so you don’t have that asymmetry built into the relationship.”

    The bottom line, Stacey said, is that people who say children need both a father and a mother in the home are misrepresenting the research, most of which compares children of single parents to children of married couples. Two good parents are better than one good parent, Stacey said, but one good parent is better than two bad parents. And gender seems to make no difference. While you do find broad differences between how men and women parent on average, she said, there is much more diversity within the genders than between them.

    “Two heterosexual parents of the same educational background, class, race and religion are more like each other in the way they parent than one is like all other women and one is like all other men,” she said. [6 Gender Myths Busted]

    Nurturing tolerance

    In fact, the only consistent places you find differences between how kids of gay parents and kids of straight parents turn out are in issues of tolerance and open-mindedness, according to Goldberg. In a paper published in 2007 in the American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, Goldberg conducted in-depth interviews with 46 adults with at least one gay parent. Twenty-eight of them spontaneously offered that they felt more open-minded and empathetic than people not raised in their situation.

    “These individuals feel like their perspectives on family, on gender, on sexuality have largely been enhanced by growing up with gay parents,” Goldberg said.

    One 33-year-old man with a lesbian mother told Goldberg, “I feel I’m a more open, well-rounded person for having been raised in a nontraditional family, and I think those that know me would agree. My mom opened me up to the positive impact of differences in people.”

    Children of gay parents also reported feeling less stymied by gender stereotypes than they would have been if raised in straight households. That’s likely because gays and lesbians tend to have more egalitarian relationships than straight couples, Goldberg said. They’re also less wedded to rigid gender stereotypes themselves.

    “Men and women felt like they were free to pursue a wide range of interests,” Goldberg said. “Nobody was telling them, ‘Oh, you can’t do that, that’s a boy thing,’ or ‘That’s a girl thing.'”

    Same-sex acceptance

    If same-sex marriage does disadvantage kids in any way, it has nothing to do with their parent’s gender and everything to do with society’s reaction toward the families, said Indiana University sociologist Brian Powell, the author of “Counted Out: Same-Sex Relations and Americans’ Definitions of Family” (Russell Sage Foundation, 2010).

    “Imagine being a child living in a state with two parents in which, legally, only one parent is allowed to be their parent,” Powell told LiveScience. “In that situation, the family is not seen as authentic or real by others. That would be the disadvantage.”

    In her research, Goldberg has found that many children of gay and lesbian parents say that more acceptance of gay and lesbian families, not less, would help solve this problem.

    In a study published online Jan. 11, 2012, in the Journal of Marriage and Family, Goldberg interviewed another group of 49 teenagers and young adults with gay parents and found that not one of them rejected the right of gays and lesbians to marry. Most cited legal benefits as well as social acceptance.

    “I was just thinking about this with a couple of friends and just was in tears thinking about how different my childhood might have been had same-sex marriage been legalized 25 years ago,” a 23-year-old man raised by a lesbian couple told Goldberg. “The cultural, legal status of same-sex couples impacts the family narratives of same-sex families — how we see ourselves in relation to the larger culture, whether we see ourselves as accepted or outsiders.”

  8. Tel

    We need to make shame popular again.

    What are you talking about? The “Progressives” love shame, it’s their primary tool of oppression.

    If you disagree with them, they dig up anything and everything and if that doesn’t work they make something up. They smear, they blacklist and demand repentance. You want even more shame than that?

  9. Leigh Lowe

    Theocratic (woke) leftism offers no redemption, no forgiveness. It is completely without grace.

    We must destroy those fuckers.

    This week has given me pause for thought.
    They indoctrinate our kids with radical gender theory … whatever.
    They take away jobs and destroy our economy to “save da planet” … yawn.
    You block traffic and demand we all eat tofu … nuclear response and still white-hot.

    Both sides of society are still trying to figure that one out.

  10. bespoke

    Elle
    #2990532, posted on April 17, 2019 at 9:21 pm
    Why I have turned away from all religion; including that into which I was born. The shaming is disgusting.

    You care to much what other people think, Tel shouldn’t care either and come out I won’t judge his lifestyle. 😎

  11. Elle

    You care to (sic) much what other people think,

    Bespoke, I don’t give a fuck what other people think.

    Just expressing my opinion.

  12. dover_beach

    Research has shown that the kids of same-sex couples — both adopted and biological kids — fare no worse than the kids of straight couples on mental health, social functioning, school performance and a variety of other life-success measures.

    In a 2010 review of virtually every study on gay parenting, New York University sociologist Judith Stacey and University of Southern California sociologist Tim Biblarz found no differences between children raised in homes with two heterosexual parents and children raised with lesbian parents.

    As I’ve pointed out in the past, this simply isn’t true. Here is an example.

  13. duncanm

    This is worth a larf..

  14. bespoke

    Elle
    #2990569, posted on April 17, 2019 at 10:13 pm
    You care to (sic) much what other people think,

    Bespoke, I don’t give a fuck what other people think.

    Just expressing my opinion.

    Cheers 👍

  15. dover_beach

    If same-sex marriage does disadvantage kids in any way, it has nothing to do with their parent’s gender and everything to do with society’s reaction toward the families, said Indiana University sociologist Brian Powell,

    Heads I win, tails you lose. Liberalism in a nutshell.

  16. Infidel Tiger

    Bespoke, I don’t give a fuck what other people think.

    You should.

    People who don’t are mentally disturbed.

  17. Knuckle Dragger

    Frank,

    ‘Top men’

    I got it. Nobody else, apparently.

  18. zyconoclast

    Abbie E Goldberg studied at Wesleyan University and received her Ph.D. awarded by the University of Massachusetts Amherst. She has been at Clark University since 2005, currently Associate Professor.

    Their research is financially supported by, among others,
    the American Psychological Association,
    the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation,
    the Williams Institute,
    the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association,
    and the Society for the Psychological Study of Social Issues.

  19. dover_beach

    All of those orgs are tainted, not just the hyperlinked ones.

  20. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Spoke to
    @TigerWoods
    to congratulate him on the great victory he had in yesterday’s
    @TheMasters
    , & to inform him that because of his incredible Success & Comeback in Sports (Golf) and, more importantly, LIFE, I will be presenting him with the PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM!
    1:35 AM · Apr 16, 2019

    What the absolute f$ck is this sh$t?
    Wake the f$ck up Donnie and do your f$cking job.
    You clown.

  21. zyconoclast

    The men leading Japan’s surprising sex recession

    Yohdi Kondo is part of the growing sex recession trend in Japan and does not understand why people are in relationships and have sex.

    He prefers to read comic books and hang out with friends and family.

  22. Knuckle Dragger

    Like Steyn said, there won’t be a definitive cause of the Notre Dame fire for days. Arson investigation is a drawn-out process, often to the chagrin of the media and other enquiring minds.

    It will be too hot for the investigators to get into for another day or so yet. Add to that, if on the off chance it started in the roof instead of somewhere else and burning upwards and out from there, there’ll be people on ropes and scaffolding looking for burn patterns, signs of accelerant, electricity sources and so on.

    One of the first things arson detectives do is check the insurance on a property that’s just burned. A recent, or relatively recent change of policy with a rise in cover quantum always raises red flags. And four days before the fire, 16 irreplaceable statues were removed.

    And – if the fire did start/was started up in the roof, it would give people the time they had to ‘save’ paintings and other priceless relics, apparently including part of the crown of thorns Jesus wore whilst crucified.

    Maybe, just maybe, an enterprising soul noted the widespread desecration of French churches and thought this might be the time to raise some anti-muesli sentiment, or make a shit tin of insurance cash, or both.

    Not saying this is necessarily the case, but you’d be a right dill to discount the possibility at this stage.

  23. Stimpson J. Cat

    People who don’t are mentally disturbed.

    Leave us out of this you Sane Muppets.
    And I care about all of you.

  24. Steve trickler

    Worthy to post gain. A big shout out to lurking MSM journos here on the CAT. Paul Weston might teach you something.

    Scruton was “Jim Jeffried”. Plain and simple.



  25. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Spoke to
    @TigerWoods
    to congratulate him on the great victory he had in yesterday’s
    @TheMasters
    , & to inform him that because of his incredible Success & Comeback in Sports (Golf) and, more importantly, LIFE, I will be presenting him with the PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM!
    1:35 AM · Apr 16, 2019

    Brilliant.

    This is exactly what President’s should be doing.

  26. zyconoclast

    What the absolute f$ck is this sh$t?
    Wake the f$ck up Donnie and do your f$cking job.
    You clown.

    +100

    BTW did Trump end up actually inviting the Covington high school students to the White House?

  27. zyconoclast

    No mention if he fell to the ground and licked he shoes.

    Pope tells Greta Thunberg to carry on her fight

    The teenage climate activist and the leader of the world’s Catholics agree that the world needs to fight climate change. Pope Francis gave his blessing for Thunberg’s fight for the climate.

    The teenage environmentalist sat in the front row of the pope’s general audience in St Peter’s Square when the two spoke.

    “Thank you for standing up for the climate and speaking the truth. It means a lot,” she told him.

    “God bless you, continue to work, continue. Go along, go ahead,” he responded.

    Speaking after the meeting, Thunberg told Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter: “He was very friendly. He smiled the whole time.”

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #2990584, posted on April 17, 2019 at 10:43 pm

    Like Steyn said, there won’t be a definitive cause of the Notre Dame fire for days. Arson investigation is a drawn-out process, often to the chagrin of the media and other enquiring minds.

    So why announce that it was accidental before the fire was out?

  29. zyconoclast

    Archdiocese Of Los Angeles Agrees To $8 Million Settlement In Sex Abuse Case

    The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles has agreed to pay $8 million to a teenager who was sexually abused and kidnapped by a teacher at her Catholic high school.

    The teenager’s attorney, David Ring, said that the settlement — finalized by a court last week — is the largest that the Archdiocese of Los Angeles has ever paid to a single victim, The Associated Press reports. Over the past 15 years, the archdiocese has paid more than $740 million in sexual abuse settlements.

    Juan Ivan Barajas, then-athletic director and health teacher at San Gabriel Mission High School in San Gabriel, Calif., repeatedly sexually abused the student when she was 15 years old, according to a lawsuit filed in 2017. Barajas then kidnapped her and took her to Las Vegas, according to court documents reported by The Los Angeles Times.

  30. Knuckle Dragger

    LL,

    Depends who announced it, remembering that no definitive answer would be available at the time of the announcement.

    The cynic in me says it may be a dubious ploy to try and get ahead of the game with the insurers, or it could be ‘nothing to see here’ in case it actually was deliberate and caused by a certain demographic, in an attempt to snuff out any anti-muesli riots or similar.

    Either way, it’s curious and it stinks. Someone, somewhere almost always gains when buildings open to the public burn own. As a professional hot dog salesman, one of the first things I’d do is source a team of forensic accountants to go through their books, fine tooth style.

  31. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘burn down’

    Geez.

  32. jupes

    Not saying this is necessarily the case, but you’d be a right dill to discount the possibility at this stage.

    I discount it.

  33. Harlequin Decline

    mh
    #2990499, posted on April 17, 2019 at 8:45 pm
    FRENCH STUDENT LEADER: “I SWEAR TO ALLAH WE DON’T GIVE A RAT’S ASS” ABOUT NOTRE DAME

    I’m in SE Asia at the moment and have been surprised at the reaction of some of the locals to news of the Notre Dame fire. Shock and dismay seems to sum it up and they’re Buddhists, not Christians.

  34. mh

    On This Day…
    Apr 17, 2018: Lahore, Pakistan
    A Christian girl is set on fire for refusing to
    marry a Mus lim and renounce her faith

    Courtesy https://www.thereligionofpeace.com

  35. Knuckle Dragger

    Hey, all I’m saying is the decision to publicly announce the cause of a fire on of the world’s most famous and recognisable buildings without any way of really knowing what that cause was is either really curious, really stupid, or both.

    At this stage you can’t discount anything.

  36. C.L.

    Steyn reminds us all that the ‘official’ view of the cause of the Notre Dame fire is complete bullshit. The city’s prosecutor (LOL) announced the ‘conclusion’ while it was still on fire. Police are incapable of pronouncing on the cause of a house fire for many days, if not weeks. The probability that an evildoer took advantage of an open building site to start the ND inferno are extremely high.

    Steyn’s column is also one of his saddest.
    We are living through a new dark age, through a Dictatorship of Relativism.

  37. Leigh Lowe

    Stimpson J. Cat

    #2990581, posted on April 17, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Spoke to
    @TigerWoods
    to congratulate him on the great victory he had in yesterday’s
    @TheMasters
    , & to inform him that because of his incredible Success & Comeback in Sports (Golf) and, more importantly, LIFE, I will be presenting him with the PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM!
    1:35 AM · Apr 16, 2019

    What the absolute f$ck is this sh$t?

    Let me explain.
    They are mates.
    Obama dished our congressional medals like after dinner mints.
    Why not?
    He got a Nobel gong for getting elected.
    Trump is ABSOLUTELY doing the right thing.
    The Democrats say he hates blacks.
    When Tiger visits the White House it kind of blows up that theory.

  38. Gab

    The fact that the city’s prosecutor came out of the blocks while the Cathedral was still burning to announce he knows the cause of the fire, makes me highly suspicious that the fire was anything but what he pronounced.

  39. Leigh Lowe

    KD.
    I wonder if Notre Dame and it’s contents was insured to any extent at all.
    Who would write that ticket.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    Dunno LL, but it’d be handy to find out.

    I think nota’s in bed though.

  41. Infidel Tiger

    KD.
    I wonder if Notre Dame and it’s contents was insured to any extent at all.
    Who would write that ticket.

    Of course it wasn’t. And like all government owned places it was in a state of disrepair.

  42. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m flat out insuring my ute, so I have no idea whatsoever about the process of insuring something that’s said to be priceless. What’s Jesus’ crown of thorns worth? Eleventy gazillion million dollars? A lifetime supply of chicken nuggets?

    As I said though, the removal of priceless statues shortly before the fire, and that the fire supposedly started in an area that allowed for the removal of more priceless stuff before it really got going – well, it asks more questions than it answers.

  43. Armadillo

    The cynic in me says it may be a dubious ploy to try and get ahead of the game with the insurers,

    I highly doubt there were outside insurers involved. It would be “self insured” via the Government of France.

    You simply couldn’t afford the premiums on that sort of of stuff. Besides, I’m pretty sure the Catholic Church “self insures” all its stuff. Has done for years.

  44. Leigh Lowe

    Notre Dame was on the bones of it’s arse for repairs and maintenance.
    They wouldn’t be throwing money at insurance companies.
    And, seriously, why insure religious relics?
    You can’t buy another one with the payout.

  45. Armadillo

    All our local diocese does. The parish pay their premiums into a fund, instead of paying an insurance company.

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    Well,

    Like Colonel Nathan R. Jessup said,

    ‘I’m an educated man, but I can’t speak to the insurance habits of the Catholic Church in France’.

    I’ll say this though. With the exception of a dude called Richileu in the mid 1600s, strategy has never been the Frogs’ strong suit.

  47. Steve trickler

    Like sands through an hour glass.

    Mortality takes centre stage.



  48. Infidel Tiger

    It was not insured. This is pretty simple stuff.

    The copper rooster from the spire survived, so that is some good news.

  49. Steve trickler

    Like sands through the hour glass.

  50. Armadillo

    The Easter thread must be due soon?

    Arky might regale us with stories of handing out chocolate duck eggs. And Doc can remind everyone that Jesus didn’t exist. Exciting times ahead.

  51. Armadillo

    The copper rooster from the spire survived, so that is some good news.

    That’s an Amish thing, IT. They are brilliant Cupola builders.

    Don’t expect them to help you with your barn raising once I advise them of your slur.

  52. Armadillo

    Just a reminder. It was Arky that attempted to poision his local ducks with his ill fated “Christmas Pudding” adventure. He’s not to be trusted.

  53. Armadillo

    LOL.

    The Internet has gone totally insane. Here is the message you get when search “Cupola”.

    Not Acceptable!

    An appropriate representation of the requested resource could not be found on this server. This error was generated by Mod_Security.

    URL is http://weathervaneandcupola.com/cupolas.html?keyword_session_id=vt~adwords%7Ckt~cupolas%7Cmt~e%7Cta~291780051108&_vsrefdom=wordstream&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIibrV_63X4QIVlDUrCh1uogs_EAAYASABEgIEh_D_BwE

  54. Armadillo

    Wow. It’s the top search result on Google. And all the results underneath get the same result.

    Cupolas are now forbidden. FMD.

  55. Arky

    Ducks, armadillos. All the same to me.
    (NADT)

  56. Armadillo

    I’m hardly in danger of being run over by your Model A.

    The ducks never had a fighting chance with your Christmas pudding ruse.

  57. Ducks, armadillos. All the same to me.

    Until it comes to the part where you’ve gotta hold one down & take its head off.
    At that point the differences become most very apparent.

  58. Armadillo

    Ducks are adorable.

    Think of Donald.

  59. Armadillo

    Trump was named after him. Ducks are pretty cool.

    Arky wants to kill them, the ingrate.

  60. Armadillo

    Arky probably wants Daffy Duck dead as well, just because he’s black. Racist.

  61. Armadillo

    Scrooge McDuck? Capitalist bastard. Kill him.

  62. Armadillo

    In “Arky Land”, Huey, Dewey and Louie are expendible.

  63. Armadillo

    Daisy Duck was a slut. Check out her images. High heels and she was always wearing the “pink pussy hat” (or whatever the hell that thing is that the feminists wear on their head is). Is it a vagina hat? You can see where the left stole it from. They just appropriated it for their own means.

  64. Armadillo

    I’m not making a really good case for ducks here.

    I’m just trying to avert attention away from a slow and burrowing target.

  65. Armadillo

    It’s a shame that all the old original “cartoonists” are gone.

    We will have to wait for Tom to post some modern rubbish.

  66. Arky

    Daisy Duck was hot.
    Not Betty Rubble hot, but I would have done her.
    That big caboose.
    Yowza.

  67. Arky

    Forget about Donald my dear.
    Have some more pudding.

  68. None

    Bloody hell knuckledragger Notre-Dame is owned by the French government .I very much doubt that it is insured. They loan it out to the Catholic Church and then expect the Catholic Church to maintain it which of course I can’t because it can’t fucken well do anything to the building without the government approved in because it’s their f****** building the massive organ was recently restored I haven’t heard whether it survived. If you ever heard it play it is absolutely magnificent.

  69. Tintarella di Luna

    Thank you Tom great toons this morning – welcome to illegals as long as they’re nowhere near me — Donald Trump is a real mind-changer

  70. Zatara

    It seems Ben Harrison was banned from instargram.

    GrrrGraphics Cartoons

    @GrrrGraphics

    You may have heard #BenGarrison #cartoons has been banned from @Instagram for speaking “Truth to Power” (as the left likes to say) -just pointing out the hypocrisy of the #Democrats & challenging their narrative- New instagram account is grrrgraphicscartoons Please follow
    322
    8:02 AM – Apr 17, 2019

  71. Zatara

    Garrison that is. Probably Harrison as well if he is conservative.

  72. Frank Walker:

    Please explain the bear/twink coupling phenomena with the same reasoning.

    I know I shouldn’t, but can someone tell me what this is?

  73. John Constantine

    Bear and twink is like Gough Whitlam and bill shorten.

  74. DrBeauGan

    And Doc can remind everyone that Jesus didn’t exist. Exciting times ahead.

    Of course Jesus existed. Very few people have denied it, and I’m certainly not one of them.

  75. Zyconoclast:
    You come up with some fascinating stuff.

    Yohdi Kondo is part of the growing sex recession trend in Japan and does not understand why people are in relationships and have sex.

    Perhaps he’s realised that the costs – as he sees them – are just not worth the benefits.
    If I had my time over again, I’d not bother getting into a relationship of any sort.

  76. DrBeauGan

    Yohdi Kondo is part of the growing sex recession trend in Japan and does not understand why people are in relationships and have sex.

    Perhaps he’s realised that the costs – as he sees them – are just not worth the benefits.
    If I had my time over again, I’d not bother getting into a relationship of any sort.

    I agree about the relationships, but not about the sex. Unfortunately, sex leads to relationships in my experience. The good healthy exercise theory of sex doesn’t work for me.

    Don’t think I haven’t tried.

  77. Tintarella di Luna

    Sorry haven’t read upthread – did anyone see the Bolt Report last night? He had the priest, I think Monsignor Portelli who’d given evidence that Cardinal Pell was with him at all times during the mass and afterwards when the Cardinal was supposed to have skived off to have a bit of illicit underaged piedophilic activities with a couple of choristers one of whom is deceased —

    Monsignor Portelli and Bolt talked about the front page headlines purporting to carry the details of a private telephone conversation between the Cardinal and the Monsignor after the latter had given his evidence. How did the fact that such a private telephone conversation had taken place happen to make it into press headlines in the first instance –

    I wonder is there’s a touch of well-poisoning going on?

  78. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Liberal turncoat Julia Banks faced own claim of bullying

    exclusive
    Dennis Shanahan
    Political Editor
    Joe Kelly
    Political Reporter
    @joekellyoz
    12:00AM April 18, 2019
    32 Comments

    A young female executive assistant working for pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline was paid compensation after making a bullying complaint against former Liberal MP now independent candidate Julia Banks.

    Ms Banks, who defected from the Liberal Party claiming she had been bullied and that the ­Coalition was anti-woman, last night did not deny a settlement was paid in the GSK case.

    In 2010, when Ms Banks was a corporate lawyer in Melbourne for GSK, a complaint was made that she was bullying an executive assistant at the company.

    The complaint was investigated and GSK paid compensation to the female assistant with an agreed confidentiality agreement.

    The executive assistant left her job when the complaint was investigated after working at GSK for 13 years. Ms Banks, who joined GSK in 2009, continued to work for the company until 2014, two years before she entered parliament.

    Last night, Ms Banks did not deny the bullying complaint, the compensation or the confidentiality agreement when asked by The Australian.

    She said: “Confidential employment matters of GSK should be referred to GSK.”

    When approached earlier by The Australian, GSK declined to comment and said the company did not discuss private details of employees.

    Ms Banks was the only Liberal candidate to win a Labor-held seat at the 2016 election, claiming the Melbourne seat of Chisholm.

    Her resignation from the Liberal Party to join the independent crossbenchers in the House of Representatives after the removal of Malcolm Turnbull as prime minister and her criticism of Scott Morrison created chaos for the Coalition.

    She caused an uproar when she said she would not recontest the seat because of “cultural and gender bias, bullying and intimidation” of women in politics.

    From the Oz.

  79. 132andBush


    Bear and twink is like Gough Whitlam and bill shorten.

    Lol, that needs to be in the Macquarie Dictionary.

  80. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Good thing Rowe labeled the shorter shit, had no idea who it was about at first. Can’t bring himself to draw the uberfuhrer naked…

  81. Bruce of Newcastle

    Pat Cross today for me, since I’m a chemist! 😀

    And add Johannes Leak.

    With this story in the business section:
    China growth good for PM
    China’s stronger than expected economic growth for the March quarter of 6.4 per cent is good news for Scott Morrison.
    By GLENDA KORPORAAL

  82. Entropy

    Liberal turncoat Julia Banks faced own claim of bullyin

    Two things:
    *Journalists never clarify that it was the Turnbull camp doing the “bullying” of Banks;
    *The left are nearly always guilty of what they claim others are doing.

  83. Lots of jobs in renewables.
    In Indian coal projects – no so many.

  84. Farmer Gez

    I saw Bolt Tinta.
    There’s no doubt the police have bugged Pell seeking to justify a covert persecution campaign.

    The fact that they continued to carry out surveillance of Pell during and after the court verdict speaks volumes of the weakness of the actual evidence and a desperate need for a justification for Operation Tethering.

    There’s no doubt as well that the police have leaked to the media. Zealots within the force have targeted church hierarchy for extraordinary punishment, aided by political masters who seek venal political advantage.

    The ABC are simply scum.

  85. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tintarella di Luna
    #2990672, posted on April 18, 2019 at 5:44 am
    Sorry haven’t read upthread – did anyone see the Bolt Report last night? He had the priest, I think Monsignor Portelli who’d given evidence that Cardinal Pell was with him at all times during the mass and afterwards when the Cardinal was supposed to have skived off to have a bit of illicit underaged piedophilic activities with a couple of choristers one of whom is deceased —

    Monsignor Portelli and Bolt talked about the front page headlines purporting to carry the details of a private telephone conversation between the Cardinal and the Monsignor after the latter had given his evidence. How did the fact that such a private telephone conversation had taken place happen to make it into press headlines in the first instance –

    I wonder is there’s a touch of well-poisoning going on?”

    Hi darling Tinta…yes I watched it…..Monsignor Portelli seems like a very, very reputable man and yes, there is definitely something nefarious going on. The Monsignor was very perplexed as to how a private conversation was made public.

  86. Bruce of Newcastle

    Socialist doing what socialists do:

    Daniel Ortega crushes protests with Nicaragua crackdown, forces outspoken critic into exile

    While the Trump administration and much of the region focus on the smoldering crisis in nearby Venezuela, longtime Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega is taking a page from his leftist allies in Caracas to quash a once-burgeoning protest movement, in a quiet but brutal crackdown that last week forced a prominent bishop into exile.

    “They were against the ropes in May [2018],” said Nicaraguan-born Harvard historian Mateo Jarquin. “And then … the regime decided to respond with just overt police and paramilitary violence.”

    Over 325 people died during clashes between civilians and government forces in Nicaragua during the past year, and more than 52,000 have fled the country, according to the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights. The Associated Press reported that opponents of Mr. Ortega contend that more than 640 people were being held for political reasons, a number the regime disputes.

    The voters didn’t learn their lesson when the got rid of Ortega the first time. So they’re now relearning what socialism means.

  87. bespoke

    Not supersizing some smart people won’t Notre Dame to reflect modern France. Hey why not cant have to many glass pyramids.

    But not all:

    It’s simply the case that the building has witnessed the entire history of France as a modern nation,” he says. “[You] can’t just erase history. It’s there, and it has to be dealt with critically.”

  88. Twostix

    There is no freedom to perpetuate hateful speech,” he told reporters in Sydney.

    See what I’m saying?

    Labor must not win this election.

    The dregs of the professional middle class that run the party and vote for the party have recently decided to absolutely abolish the freedom to speak.

    The will do things like make sinc personally responsible for ‘hate’ comments here and include politics as a reason to be offended under the hate speech and discrimination laws

    This is top of mind for these zombie lunatics right now.

    You will be arrested for hate posting like in the UK.

  89. stackja

    NSW Roads

    Luddenham The Northern Rd between Dwyer Rd and Eaton Rd
    CRASH Motorcycle, Kangaroo (Site cleared)
    Started today 6:29am, last checked today 6:59am
    Heavy traffic conditions.
    Impact: Impact Traffic affected in both directions.
    Advice: Exercise caution
    Allow extra travel time

    Kangaroo?

  90. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Sweden’s teenage activist Greta Thunberg choked backed tears as she warned of climate disaster and urged Europeans to vote in next month’s elections to press for decisive action on cutting greenhouse gases.

  91. Twostix

    Thanks numbers for demontrating my point.

    Top of mind.

  92. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The religiously-motivated Folau attracted a fresh storm of controversy when he posted on Instagram: “Warning. Drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists, idolators. Hell awaits you. Repent! Only Jesus saves.”

    Rugby Australia says that public stance goes against their policy of inclusion.

    and divershity, don’t ever forget the divershity.

  93. bespoke

    1735099
    #2990683, posted on April 18, 2019 at 6:49 am
    Sinc and Scomo in good company.

    Pitiful wedge tactic.

  94. mh

    Garrison for me, Tom.

    And the Tweet to go with it:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    Apr 16
    I finally agree with
    @Cher!

  95. Tom

    I subscribe to a Chicom aviation news service, which occasionally reveals the ruthless workings of the fascist Chinese state:

    A 66-year-old passenger who threw six coins at the engine of the plane he was about to take was detained by police on Tuesday.

    According to information released by Tianjin Airlines, one of the crew members of the flight GS6681 from Hohhot to Chifeng, cities in the Inner Mongolia autonomous region, noticed someone throwing coins at the engine from the passenger elevator about 10 minutes before departure time.

    After investigation by police the passenger, surnamed Yang, admitted he threw coins simply for blessing. The flight was delayed for a security check, and all the coins were found and removed. The flight took off successfully after ensuring craft safety.

    Yang was taken away by police and will accept punishment in accordance with civil aviation regulations.

    I hope this poor old Mongolian doesn’t have his life destroyed by the CCCP pig state for wishing himself luck in his ride on the sky horse, but I imagine that will be part of the “punishment” to discourage the others.

  96. Farmer Gez

    ABC rural radio now promoting a Hippy festival on an old sheep property, rewilded, at Moulamein on the Edawards River.
    Spokesthings spouting pure lunatic crap about nature and spontaneous happenings.
    Locals get a business lift out of it but do they ever consider the agenda these people would impose on agriculture if given the chance? Danegeld.

  97. bespoke

    Casa would’t be to happy about people throwing coins at an engine, nether would I.

  98. Arky

    It is a horrible mess these social engineers have wrought.
    And very few truly understand the relentlessly totalitarian and inevitable effects of what they have done.
    By deliberately using social justice causes to undo free speech they have destroyed the liberal democratic societies which are the only places where true human rights can exist.
    These vandals. These petty thought police. These small- minded, self appointed gaurdians of right thought.
    They have deliberately undermined the one principle upon which all of our other freedoms are based. Without any consideration for the consequences. Without any imagination to what ends this new tool of de- personing will be put.
    It won’t be bigots or those nasty people who wouldn’t talk to them in high school who will be imprisoned and persecuted.
    Damn terrifying foolishness.

  99. calli

    Just been out for a perfect walk this Maundy Thursday. Pale, washed-out sky, heavy dew and the roos grazing on the 18th. They know me well by now, up go their heads, a little mental processing and back down they go. The wide-eyed joeys snack from the comfort of the pouch.

    Pat Cross for me. I knew BoN would like it too.

  100. Elle

    😂 🤣
    Love Mrs Bucket.

  101. These vandals. These petty thought police. These small- minded, self appointed gaurdians (sic) of right thought.


    Absolutely.

  102. Elle

    It is a wee bit creepy that all the lefties start stalking Lizzie.

  103. Arky

    Don’t worry about Lizzie.
    She is as tough as they come and well able to endure the petty stupidities of an innumerate numeral.

  104. calli

    It’s perfectly natural, Elle.

    Her unashamed affluence draws them like splinters from a pustulating thumb. It’s very amusing.

  105. Elle

    What happened to your piccy, Arky?
    How do you change it?
    Also, I tried to change my name but it went into moderation.

  106. mh

    Yohdi Kondo is part of the growing sex recession trend in Japan and does not understand why people are in relationships and have sex.

    Take away the used panties vending machines and he will soon change his tune.

  107. OldOzzie

    Thanks Tom,

    great choice this morning hard to choose

    2 Australians excellent Chris “Roy” Taylor. and Paul Zanetti

    and a plethora of choice in the Americans

    A.F.Branco and Ben Garrison sum up the hypocrisy of Cher and her ilk perfectly

  108. OldOzzie

    Thanks Tom,

    great choice this morning hard to choose

    2 Australians excellent Chris “Roy” Taylor. and Paul Zanetti

    and a plethora of choice in the Americans

    A.F.Branco and Ben Garrisonhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4XFsULUEAc43cE.jpg:large- sum up the hypocrisy of Cher and her ilk perfectly

  109. feelthebern

    I’ve been listening to an interview with George Papadopoulos with Michael Tracey on Patreon.
    It’s very clear that Alexander Downer is in deep do-do.
    If the direction for Downer to set Georgey boy up came from Turnbull (at the behest of the Obama whitehouse) I can see a few chaps being shunned until Trump leaves office in Jan 2025.

  110. Arky

    How to change your gravatar:
    1. Misspell your email.
    2. Keep posting despite the “your comment is in moderation” message.
    3. Add increasingly hysterical and irrational rants about censorship to your moderated messages.
    4. Continue until Davidson finds relief by adding your misspelled address into service.
    5. Repeat for all common misspelling of your address until you build up a menagerie of gravatars.

  111. OldOzzie

    Thanks Tom,

    great choice this morning – hard to choose

    2 Australians excellent Chris “Roy” Taylor. and Paul Zanetti

    and a plethora of choice in the Americans

    A.F.Branco and Ben Garrison – sum up the hypocrisy of Cher and her ilk perfectly

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4XDGOlUUAA2_BU.jpg:large

    and

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4XFsULUEAc43cE.jpg:large

  112. OldOzzie

    Thanks Tom,

    great choice this morning – hard to choose

    2 Australians excellent Chris “Roy” Taylor. and Paul Zanetti

    and a plethora of choice in the Americans

    A.F.Branco and Ben Garrison – sum up the hypocrisy of Cher and her ilk perfectly

  113. stackja

    Peru’s ex-president Garcia dies after shooting himself to avoid arrest
    Mitra Taj, Marco Aquino

    4 Min Read

    LIMA (Reuters) – Peru’s former president Alan Garcia died in a hospital in Lima on Wednesday, hours after shooting himself in the head to avoid arrest in connection with a bribery probe, authorities said on Wednesday.

  114. Boambee John

    Leigh Lowe
    #2990605, posted on April 17, 2019 at 11:54 pm
    KD.
    I wonder if Notre Dame and it’s contents was insured to any extent at all.
    Who would write that ticket.

    The building is owned by tbe French state, not the Catholic Church.

  115. mh

    Amy Mek
    @AmyMek
    BREAKING: Famous French Journalist Slams Pope, Elites & Macron for Notre Dame Fire!

    “2018 we had 1063 anti-Christian acts – 2 churches were vandalized PER DAY!”

    ‘The pride of our history is burning & and I accuse all the quislings of being responsible’

    https://twitter.com/AmyMek/status/1118224692240900096?s=20

  116. Rafiki redux

    Arky at 7.44. Well said! A concise summation that avoids the ponderous language of the philosoohically inclined. Do you waive cooyright? I am going to do some campaigning for the australian Conservatives.

  117. Rafiki redux

    An o should be a p.

  118. mh

    Quisling:

    Vidkun Abraham Lauritz Jonssøn Quisling was a Norwegian military officer and politician who nominally headed the government of Norway during the occupation of the country by Nazi Germany during World War II

  119. None

    It’s not just that somebody bugged Cardinal pearls phone and leave the conversation it’s that the journalist then publish to story that that conversation took place at a dinner party weeks later and then embellished and twisted the conversation. The Monsignor was very gracious to call it malice at best. The journalist in question is a grub of the lowest thought and couldn’t even be arsed with basic fact checks. (If we are to believe that she had a source and it wasn’t directly involved in the tapping.)

  120. OldOzzie

    Tom
    #2990695, posted on April 18, 2019 at 7:30 am

    I subscribe to a Chicom aviation news service, which occasionally reveals the ruthless workings of the fascist Chinese state:

    According to information released by Tianjin Airlines, one of the crew members of the flight GS6681 from Hohhot to Chifeng, cities in the Inner Mongolia autonomous region

    As I said previously I loved The Grand Tour Mongolia Special – Clarkson, May, Hammond

    I loved the scenery and my son-in-law who has been to Mongolia on business (stayed in a Yurt) said it was beautiful – so on the bucket list for a visit

    But don’t throw coins at the eegine/plane

  121. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #2990721, posted on April 18, 2019 at 8:23 am
    It’s not just that somebody bugged Cardinal pearls phone and leave the conversation it’s that the journalist then publish to story that that conversation took place at a dinner party weeks later and then embellished and twisted the conversation. The Monsignor was very gracious to call it malice at best. The journalist in question is a grub of the lowest thought and couldn’t even be arsed with basic fact checks. (If we are to believe that she had a source and it wasn’t directly involved in the tapping.)”

    You’ve nailed it None….and you’re on fire. Keep it up.

  122. Farmer Gez

    couldn’t even be arsed with basic fact checks.

    More likely she put a false scenario around the story to hide the blatant leaking of a phone tap.

  123. mh

    A.F.Branco and Ben Garrison – sum up the hypocrisy of Cher and her ilk perfectly

    Branco is a bit too realistic in his drawing of Cher. Yikes!

  124. Groundhog day in North Korea.
    Fatty 5D* hasn’t tweeted.

    *Trump was deferred from the draft for Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

  125. Boambee John

    1735099
    #2990703, posted on April 18, 2019 at 7:49 am
    These vandals. These petty thought police. These small- minded, self appointed gaurdians (sic) of right thought.

    These small- minded, self appointed gaurdians (sic) of petty pedantry who make more errors than they correct.

    Ergot/argot, vagina/vulva!

  126. OldOzzie

    Revealed: Shorten’s carbon costs to hit $25bn

    Simon Benson
    National Affairs Editor
    Ben Packham
    Political Reporter

    Australian businesses could be forced to spend more than $25 billion on international carbon credits to meet Labor’s 45 per cent emissions reduction targets by 2030, jeopardising one of Bill Shorten’s fundamental election pillars, which he declared would have no cost to the economy.

    Threatening a repeat of their 2010 scuttling of Kevin Rudd’s emissions trading scheme, the Greens yesterday warned they could block Labor’s use of international carbon permits in the Senate over concerns that the policy was overly reliant on international permits to meet the 1.3 billion tonnes of carbon abatement needed in the next 10 years.

    The Labor leader yesterday came under fire after being unable to explain what the cost of the ­policy would be, given carbon permits are set to play a key role in meeting the target.

    Experts believe the price of international carbon offsets could hit $62 a tonne over the decade but, allowing for an average of $50 a tonne, the hit on businesses would be about $25bn to meet Labor’s target.

    This is based on an assumption that more than 500 million tonnes of abatement would have to come through either the purchase of international carbon credits or further land-clearing controls and reforestation, which would prove politically explosive in the bush.

    A day after refusing to answer questions on the cost to the economy of Labor’s climate policy, Mr Shorten yesterday declared a 2015 report by economist Warwick McKibbin showed “our 45 per cent reduction, including international offsets, has the same economic ­impact as the Liberals’ 26 per cent”.

    Mr Shorten seized on the McKibbin report’s forecast that economic growth would continue at more than 2 per cent under ­either scenario through the 2020s to dismiss suggestions Labor’s policy would be a hit to the economy.

    “I don’t accept the characterisation that it is a cost,” the Opposition Leader said. “We’re going to grow. And we’re going to grow ­because we are going to move to a lower carbon pollution economy.”

    The McKibbin study, conducted for the Abbott government, showed that a 45 per cent carbon emissions cut on 2005 levels — the same as proposed by Labor — would strip about 1 per cent of GDP by 2030, compared with 0.6 per cent under the Coalition’s 26 per cent cut.

    By offsetting nearly half the necessary cuts with international carbon offsets, which Labor has committed to doing, the McKibbin study found the GDP hit from a 45 per cent emissions reduction could be slashed to 0.6 per cent — the same cost as under the ­Coalition.

    The study did not factor in the government’s use of carried-over credits from over-achievement in the Kyoto climate agreement, which Labor had elected not to use — a move that will further push up the cost of its policy.

    Professor McKibbin cautioned that the modelling assumed a carbon price mandated by the government at the time of $US5 a tonne in 2020, rising to $US10 in 2030. “If the price of offsets in the world is higher than we assume, that effect is gone,” he told The Australian yesterday. “We don’t know what the price of offsets will be in 2030. These numbers are not precise in any sense.”

    The price of carbon permits on the EU market has more than tripled in the past year due to reforms to curb oversupply. Permits for delivery in December traded at €26.86 ($42.22) per metric ton on Tuesday. Modelling by former government scientist Brian Fisher, an author on the Inter­governmental Panel on Climate Change and now head of BAEconomics, has estimated the international carbon price will be $62 a tonne by 2030.

    A Labor campaign spokeswoman said yesterday the party was yet to determine how much of its 45 per cent in emissions cuts would be delivered through purchasing international permits.

    Greens climate change spokesman Adam Bandt said the minority party would resist the use of international permits in any Labor scheme, threatening a Senate showdown with a future Shorten government.

    “International offsets are like paying someone to go on a diet for you while you stay at home eating burgers and pizzas,” Mr Bandt said.

    “I’m confident climate laws can pass the new Senate, but Labor is going to have to give up on international offsets and accept a plan to quit coal. Greens and Labor worked together and compromised in 2011 to get real climate ­action and we can do so again.”

    The Greens under Bob Brown sank Mr Rudd’s carbon pollution reduction scheme, arguing it wasn’t ambitious enough. The party backed Julia Gillard’s carbon tax the following year.

    Energy Minister Angus Taylor said yesterday Labor needed to tell voters and the business community how much would have to be paid to international carbon offset brokers under its policy. “Australians need to be informed about the amount of money that is going to be paid to other countries as part of this scheme,” Mr Taylor said. “If international credits average $50 over the decade, if they have to achieve 500 million tonnes, that’s $25bn going offshore.”

    He said Labor was also yet to explain what emissions target ­industry would face, how fast would emissions be brought down, how its emissions trading scheme would work, and how it would treat emissions from the heavy transport fleet.

    Under its policy, the Coalition has to cut 328 million tonnes of carbon emissions to meet its 26 per cent reduction under the Paris target by 2030. Labor has to cut about 1.3 billion tonnes. Government analysis of Labor’s policy suggests it will deliver just 815 million tonnes of abatement by 2030 without significant controls on land clearing and the purchase of international carbon credits. The 45 per cent reductions in the energy sector would lead to a reduction of 247 million tonnes, while emissions controls on cars would ­deliver a reduction of 59 million tonnes, according to the former Climate Change Authority.

    Agriculture is exempt from Labor’s policy. The expansion of the safeguard mechanism on the business sector, which will cap carbon emissions for companies that produce more than 25,000 tonnes of carbon a year, is estimated to lead to a reduction of 509 million tonnes. This leaves 511 million tonnes still to be taken out of the economy that would have to be largely met through the purchase of international carbon permits.

    The debate yesterday came amid new evidence of a surge in employment in the renewable energy industry, with new ABS figures showing 17,740 renewables jobs in 2017-18, up by 28 per cent on the previous year.

  127. feelthebern

    Phone tapping & meta-data will continue until someone leaks something too sensitive about someone too “important”.
    Then there will be an inquiry.
    & “safe-guards” put in place.
    Then the phone tapping & meta-data-ing will continue.

  128. stackja

    Chris Alcaide
    From Wikipedia
    Chris Alcaide (born John Berger; October 23, 1922 – June 30, 2004[1]) was an American actor, particularly known for his role in television westerns. He surfaced to national attention as Deputy Joshua Tate in the 1956 film Gunslinger, co-starring Beverly Garland as a woman marshal.

    In 2003, Alcaide was among recipients, including the Sons of the Pioneers, Tommy Lee Jones, Kris Kristofferson, and Kelo Henderson, of the 21st annual Golden Boot Awards for his extensive work in westerns.[2]
    Spouse(s) Georgia Holt
    (m. 1948; div. 1949)
    Georgia Holt (born Jackie Jean Crouch; June 9, 1926) is an American singer-songwriter, actress, and model. She is the mother of singer and actress Cher.
    Parent(s) John Sarkisian Georgia Holt
    Cher (born Cherilyn Sarkisian; May 20, 1946) Cher could have been Cher Alcaide.

  129. feelthebern

    *Trump was deferred from the draft for Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

    & numbers didn’t have the courage to stand up to his chicken-hawk dad who couldn’t stop boasting about his son in Vietnam every Sunday at mass.
    Which might very well be the reason for his multi decade angst.

  130. Boambee John

    *Trump was deferred from the draft for Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

    Numbers has another relapse with his psychological problem. Again introduces a random, irrelevant, point into the thread.

  131. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    *Trump was deferred from the draft for Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

    Numbers Bob had a perfectly safe, and legal, option to being conscripted, which he chose not to exercise.

  132. stackja

    Cupola
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  133. feelthebern

    Numbers Bob had a perfectly safe, and legal, option to being conscripted, which he chose not to exercise.

    Because of his chicken hawk dad.

  134. stackja

    Prep students assaulting staff, students as violent incidents on Victorian school grounds escalate
    Ashley Argoon, Herald Sun
    April 18, 2019 5:50am
    Subscriber only

    Violent prep students stabbing assistant principals, and biting and throwing scissors at staff are among those carrying out a litany of assaults on Victorian school grounds.

    Children as young as five have been suspended and primary school teachers have been forced to barricade their young charges in classrooms to shield them from other rampaging students.

    The disturbing details are ­revealed in a dossier recounting violence in schools — which also shows some parents are behaving badly.

    Cases of assault and aggressive behaviour by pupils against staff rose by 27 per cent, and against pupils by 9 per cent, in a year.

  135. stackja

    Swastikas have been drawn along a walkway at Bondi Beach
    Billy Freeman, The Daily Telegraph
    April 18, 2019 5:22am
    Subscriber only

    Swastikas have been spray-painted along the promenade on Bondi Beach.

    It comes after approximately 20 swastikas were scrawled along the same promenade in February.

    The latest attack took place yesterday and the swastikas have since been removed.

    Read more in the Australian Joowish News

  136. Boambee John

    Amy Mek
    @AmyMek
    BREAKING: Famous French Journalist Slams Pope, Elites & Macron for Notre Dame Fire!

    “2018 we had 1063 anti-Christian acts – 2 churches were vandalized PER DAY!”

    ‘The pride of our history is burning & and I accuse all the quislings of being responsible’

    That Frog journo is really pissed, bringing both Quisling and the phrase “J’accuse” into the discussion.

  137. John Constantine

    We know the Khmer green agenda is the deindustrialisation and clearances of rural Australia, and the rewilding of the wastelands.

    Rations of medicated sludge from rebirthed sewage is their meat dodging dogma.

    Comrades.

  138. Mater

    *Trump was deferred from the draft for Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

    – Were you or were you not deferred twice?
    – If the war had ended before those two years were up, would you or would you not have avoided going to Vietnam?
    – Do you or do you not believe that you should have been deemed medically unfit due to your one short leg?
    – Did you or did you not attempt to avoid being sent to Vietnam by any and all means available?

    It would seem to me that your continued criticism of Trumps (lack off) war service lacks self awareness.

  139. OldOzzie

    Slogan for Liberals

    from Comments on Revealed: Shorten’s carbon costs to hit $25bn

    If it’s BILLS you want, vote for Shorten and the ALP/Greens

    – Higher power bills.
    – Higher wage bills mean higher cost of living bills.
    – Higher rent bills.
    – Superannuation rip-offs mean less money to pay bills.
    – More union power means higher construction bills.

    H/T – Jenny
    45 minutes ago

  140. Percy Popinjay

    That Frog journo is really pissed, bringing both Quisling and the phrase “J’accuse” into the discussion.

    Forgotten about Maréchal Pétain, have we, sweetie?

    The French are quite possibly the most vile people to have existed in human history. Never, ever forget that.

  141. lotocoti

    Swastikas have been spray-painted

    There could be a fan of the shinshinto smith, Kongou Sai Masatsugu, on the loose.

  142. stackja

    Boambee John
    #2990748, posted on April 18, 2019 at 8:53 am
    Amy Mek
    @AmyMek

    Amy Mek

    @AmyMek
    4 minutes ago

    PROOF Notre Dame COULD NOT have been an Electrical Fire!
    This is a short clip from a documentary on Notre Dame Cathedral, made Sept. 16th, 2018

    There were no workers in the cathedral, no heat sources near the timber frame. Was this arson? Would Authorities tell us if it was?

  143. Overburdened

    Re carbon credits

    I am waiting for any sort of advice that giving money to a foreign entity will somehow make Australia’s Planet Destroying Pollution (TM) OK.

    IMO the international forces at play are too strong for the Government to resist, even if it wanted to.

    There seems to me to be no other explanation when the size of our contribution to the pending conflagration is so small as to be meaningless, and why any sane journalist would propagate the mythology.

  144. OldOzzie

    Ex-Canadian PM Harper praises Abbott speeches

    Troy Bramston
    SENIOR WRITER

    Former Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper has lavished praise on Tony Abbott in the foreword to a new book of his speeches, Abbott: As Delivered, and says his values should guide policymakers around the world.

    “I believe his perspective comes from a recognition of the extraordinary contributions made by ­ordinary Australians over the years,” Mr Harper, Canada’s prime minister from 2006 to 2015, writes. “Such an outlook ought to animate policymakers and regular citizens alike. Yes, we face real challenges — the threat of terrorism, bouts of economic disruption — but we have, as he rightly ­observed, ‘won the lottery of life’.”

    “We live in free, dynamic, and wealthy countries, during the best era ever to be alive.

    “Our people are hard-working, ingenious and good. We have the means to tackle the challenges we will invariably confront. Our ­future can be bright.”

    Mr Harper also writes about his friendship with Mr Abbott, saying the two leaders “clicked” ­during their overlapping periods in office.

    “We both understood that governing requires real world trade-offs rather than a slavish adherence to intellectual abstractions,” he writes. “We were both conservatives who sought to apply conservative insights and principles to the opportunities and challenges facing regular citizens.”

    The book is edited by David Furse-Roberts and Paul Ritchie, who was Mr Abbott’s speechwriter and now works for Scott Morrison.

    It is published by Connor Court in conjunction with the Menzies Research Centre and follows the publication of a book of John Howard’s speeches, Howard: The Art of Persuasion, last year.

    Most speeches in the book are from Mr Abbott’s two years as prime minister (2013-15), but it includes his first speech in parliament 25 years ago. The speeches traverse economic, social and foreign policy. There are eulogies for Gough Whitlam and Malcolm Fraser, speeches marking World War I anniversaries, and orations for events such as the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta.

    “Speeches matter. They shape the arguments, values and thinking that underpins a government,” Mr Ritchie writes. “They give meaning, set direction and allow us to weigh the (speaker’s) intellectual strength and character.”

  145. Percy Popinjay

    The most biting sentence in Steyn’s piece on the Notre Dame fire:

    So, precisely because Paris is full of people who would love to burn down Notre Dame four days before Good Friday, it seems bizarrely improbable that it should happen by accident

    If it was adherents of a certain peaceable religion, the peasants will never be informed of that fact. Citing the cause of the fire as “accidental”, is inevitable.

  146. teamv

    Stackja @ 8:50am.

    Isn’t it interesting they never mention anything aobut hte students who are causing the problems. It’s almost like they might be immigrants and we can’t have that getting out.

  147. bespoke

    Ellie thanks your offer to share but like my seats my taste in drinks is cheap. It would to much shock to the system. 😃

  148. Tel

    Numbers has another relapse with his psychological problem. Again introduces a random, irrelevant, point into the thread.

    The SAME random, irrelevant point into EVERY freaking thread.

    Brutal repetition is now one of the standard “Progressive” plays. As Alinsky explained, never go outside the expertise of your people. That rule is narrowing down what they can use as tactics.

  149. stackja

    Percy Popinjay
    #2990752, posted on April 18, 2019 at 9:03 am

    Petain at Verdun a hero, until 1940.

    After the war, Pétain was tried and convicted for treason. He was originally sentenced to death, but due to his age and World War I service his sentence was commuted to life in prison and he died in 1951.

    Pierre Laval also.

  150. Infidel Tiger

    The French are quite possibly the most vile people to have existed in human history. Never, ever forget that.

    Nah. Germans hands down.

    And I married a Sheila with German heritage.

  151. Infidel Tiger

    FFS the Germans gave us the appalling Beatles.

  152. Eyrie

    From MIT technology Review this morning:

    “AI’s white guy problem isn’t going away
    A new report says initiatives to fix the field’s diversity crisis are too narrow and shallow.

    Telling numbers: Women account for only 18% of authors at leading AI conferences, 20% of AI professorships, and 15% and 10% of research staff at Facebook and Google, respectively. Racial diversity is even worse.

    Why it matters: The industry has grown to impact everything from hiring to criminal justice and the military. It’s also automated the biases of its creators: devaluing women’s resumes, perpetuating housing discrimination, and enshrining racist policing practices. This will only worsen without a new approach, according to a new report out this week.

    Why efforts failed: There’s been too much emphasis on “women in tech” and less on diversity in the round. There’s also a disproportionate on “fixing the pipeline” which underestimates other systemic disadvantages.

    What to do: The researchers recommend measures to close the pay and opportunity gap, and changing incentive structures. But the problem runs deeper than that. The tech industry was built on the ethos that technology exists independently of society, and it’s a misconception that still has a grip over the industry today�and is at the heart of so many of its problems.

    �Karen Hao”

    FMD. Wow! It’s a crisis! Of all the things to worry about AI, this isn’t one of them. Anyway I prefer the term AS (Artificial Stupid).

  153. feelthebern

    Germans are great.
    You know what you are getting.

  154. stackja

    Sinc rules might terminate the usual suspect posting.

  155. dover_beach

    Morris-Marr blew off speculation that the conversation she published was bugged as ‘far-fetched’ and ‘ridiculous’ but the question remains how else could you find out about a private conversation undertaken over mobile phone which the principals say occurred in private and the contents were not relayed to anyone else by them?

  156. Percy Popinjay

    Nah. Germans hands down.

    Quite simply, the French have been giving people across the planet the absolute and utter proverbials, as well as wreaking complete havoc wherever they’ve set foot, ever since the miserable pretentious wankers have existed.

    It’s been quite a run.

  157. Robber Baron

    Woolworths Group is aiming to further reduce its environmental impact by becoming the first retailer in Australia, and the first supermarket globally, to issue Green Bonds certified by the Climate Bonds Initiative (CBI).

    One more reason to boycott this retailer.

  158. OldOzzie

    Economy at risk from slide in property, climate costs

    The Australian Efitorial

    The release of the pre-election economic and fiscal outlook by the Treasury and Department of Finance sets the baseline for promises made by major parties and the state of play for the incoming 46th parliament. Given the budget was on April 2, little has changed on the fiscal front, other than the Morrison government’s $88 million afterthought to include Newstart recipients in the energy assistance handout this financial year. But officials have highlighted the slide in the housing market — and the degree to which falling home prices become a drag on activity — as the key risk to the economy, especially to dwelling investment and consumer spending. “A more subdued outlook for household income, or a further tightening in credit conditions, could also constrain household spending amid high levels of household debt,” the PEFO states.

    That puts Labor’s proposal to scrap negative gearing for existing homes and double capital gains tax — conceived in 2016 at a time of sky-high property prices — in a different light. Last week, Labor’s Treasury spokesman Chris Bowen was caught out apparently overstating the impact of the policy by as much as $8bn. It means there will be less in the kitty for social spending, tax cuts or paying off debt. Little wonder a rattled Labor has scrubbed from its website details of its signature policy, decimating its housing affordability plan, from 100 to 10 paragraphs.

    Bill Shorten has rolled out a great deal of policy material to catch the eye of voters. Labor is to be applauded for this bold departure from recent election campaigns. But there are gaping holes in the alternative prime minister’s pitch, most worryingly on climate policy. Mr Shorten was quizzed relentlessly by a reporter in Adelaide on Tuesday about the cost to the economy of his 45 per cent emissions reduction target. Voters were left none the wiser by Mr Shorten on one of Labor’s key points of policy difference with the Coalition. Yesterday the inquisition on costs continued in Perth, as it should. Mr Shorten declared his target, including international offsets, would have the same economic impact as the Morrison government’s 26 to 28 per cent target (below 2005 emission levels by 2030). He cited economist Warwick McKibbin’s 2015 report to Tony Abbott as the basis for his claim. Mr Shorten also did not accept his 45 per cent emissions cut would be a cost to the economy.

    Again, the Labor leader appeared less than open, or fully briefed, about his own policy. Professor McKibbin says the cost of international offsets down the track cannot be known. His 2015 report found the difference between targets of 26 per cent and 45 per cent in 2030 would be 0.6 per cent of GDP, or about $60bn in that year alone. International offsets — which the Greens are opposed to — could reduce the economic fallout. But if the global price of carbon permits rises beyond the model’s assumptions, their effect in cutting costs disappears. In recent times, the cost of international credits has jumped to about $30 per tonne of CO2 equivalent.

    At a basic level, it’s not plausible the opposing approaches to carbon dioxide reduction could incur the same cost. For one, Labor is not using Kyoto carry-over credits. It means Labor’s reduction task is 1.3 billion tonnes by 2030, compared to the Coalition’s load of 300 million tonnes. According to modelling by Brian Fisher, a former chief of the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics and adviser on climate change policy, the Coalition’s pledge will lead to 80,000 fewer jobs by 2030, with real wages lower by 2 per cent. Under Labor, the job losses are expected to be 340,000, with real wages lower by 8.5 per cent. Dr Fisher predicted the wholesale price of electricity is $35 per megawatt hour cheaper under the Coalition’s target.

    Mr Shorten has made much of his showstopping plan to have every second new car an electric vehicle by 2030. Labor’s climate pitch to voters — especially young people and those it is hoping to steer away from the Greens in inner-city seats — is central to his campaign for government. But Mr Shorten must go well beyond good intentions on renewables and electric dreams to win the middle ground. He needs to fully explain what will happen to power prices, jobs and wages under Labor’s carbon reduction scheme and what effect his “real action” on climate change will have on business costs.

  159. Speedbox

    Arky – upthread were comments about not letting an engine idle too long after a rebuild. It reminded me of a conversation I had over 40 years ago with a ‘bush mechanic’ who was probably 60 at the time. I had been watching him hone out a bore and talk turned to running-in an engine. Best I can remember, he said this:

    “when your running in your fuckin’ engine you don’t just let it fuckin’ idle. Fuck no. You’ll run the bastard in as a slow engine. Gotta give it some revs, y’ know, up then back t’ idle, up then back t’ idle. Then take the fuckin’ thing for a drive. Slow engines work owright but they got fuckall guts. Worst fuckin’ thing you can do. Drive the fuckin’ thing – slow at first but give it a few revs every now and then – that’s why ya repaired it didn’t ya”.

    He was a bit of a crazy old bastard but his mechanical ability (on cars of that era) was undoubted. He was one of those guys who actually could make a rudimentary but operable clutch plate out of a piece of tin. The ‘art’ of running in an engine is mostly lost these days.

  160. dover_beach

    By the day, holy anger rises in me.

  161. feelthebern

    WSJ reporting that a bunch of doctors have been arrested over Oxytocin prescriptions.
    About time.
    Shows how the state – up until Trump – was more than happy to have an underclass of addicts.
    If Trump successfully disrupts this state sponsored farce, it will define his presidency.

  162. – Were you or were you not deferred twice?

    I was not “deferred”. My enlistment was delayed until I completed one year of teaching, which was a requirement of the then National Service Act.

    – If the war had ended before those two years were up, would you or would you not have avoided going to Vietnam?

    Irrelevant. If you read the Pentagon Papers, the war had effectively ended years before I got anywhere near it.

    But in 1969, when I read the entire Pentagon Papers, covering 1945 to 1968, I became aware that every president from Harry Truman on had heard this advice from people more authoritative than me. And for some reason the presidents had always chosen to stay in. Their determination not to suffer the political consequences of losing a war outweighed, for them, the human costs of continuing*.

    *Daniel Ellsberg – Lying About Vietnam – June 29, 2001.

    – Do you or do you not believe that you should have been deemed medically unfit due to your one short leg?

    Irrelevant. Given I survived a tour I must have been fit enough to serve.

    – Did you or did you not attempt to avoid being sent to Vietnam by any and all means available?

    Sure did – once in the army by all legal means. I didn’t buy off a doctor, as Trump’s father did. Nor did I smear those like McCain and Kerry for serving.

    It would seem to me that your continued criticism of Trumps (lack off) war service lacks self awareness.

    I reckon I’m a bloody sight more self aware than a snake oil merchant who uses fear and hate to seek and hold power.

  163. feelthebern

    Green bonds are a way for the corporate to issue debt at a few bps cheaper due to ESG funds desperate to deploy funds.
    Woollies is a green-washed company.
    They are the third largest gaming machine operator in the country.
    How does that meet the threshold?
    Well you engage with an ESG consultant to greenwash you through the process so you tick all the boxes.

  164. lotocoti

    Nah. Germans hands down.

    The Belgians are stealth scumbags.

  165. calli

    Ahhhh…the inevitable “International Design Competition” for the rebuilding* of Notre Dame de Paris.

    Glass? Steel? Mais oui!

    Never fear Backlash!™ Modern architects will do it for you.

    * calliTip – there will not be a restoration

  166. mh

    Numbers, how many Commies did you kill?

    Thanks in advance.

  167. feelthebern

    Hopefully Notre Dame will be made into a 1000 one bedroom apartments.
    Low cost housing for African migrants.
    Obviously they need somewhere local to pray, so an on-site mosque would be ideal.

  168. Infidel Tiger

    Macron’s announcement that a worldwide architectural comp will he held to design ND’s new spire should frighten and sicken us all.

    A great column on why modern architecture is so terrible:

    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/10/why-you-hate-contemporary-architecture

    In the future all architects will be very badly beaten and then jailed.

  169. OldOzzie

    LABOR FAIL: WOULD YOU BUY EVEN A TOASTER FROM SHORTEN?

    Andrew Bolt: Bill Shorten’s climate stance is all pain without gain

    Bill Shorten is conning you: he is selling you a massive global warming policy without saying what it would cost and what it would do.

    Huh? Would you consider buying even a toaster without knowing either the price or whether it works?

    So why risk buying the Labor leader’s scheme to radically change how we power our businesses and homes?

    Shorten’s con was exposed again this week, when Channel 10 journalist Jonathan Lea asked him five times to tell Australians the cost of his plan to slash the emissions Labor claims are heating the world dangerously.

    Labor says it will cut those emissions by 45 per cent by 2030 — and not just from power stations but from the whole economy.

    The costs will obviously be massive. Just the emissions cuts we’ve had so far have helped shut power stations and made your electricity expensive.

    So how much more will Labor’s cuts cost?

    Five times Shorten was asked on Tuesday and five times he refused to say. He was also asked several times on Wednesday and again wouldn’t answer.

    He instead offered two red herrings.

    The first is that “inaction on climate change is going to cost Australians in the future”.

    False. As the Chief Scientists admits, nothing Australia does — even scrapping every car and factory — could make any measurable difference to the temperature. We’re too small.

    So Labor’s plan won’t work.

    Indeed, I’ve asked him what difference his policy would make to the temperature and he refuses to say that, either. He does not want you to know it’s all pain for no gain.

    Shorten’s second fake answer on Wednesday was that the economy is “still going to grow” under Labor’s scheme.

    Sure, the economy may still grow, but it will definitely grow slower.

    Economist Brian Fisher of BAEconomics calculates in a peer-reviewed paper that Labor’s plan will cost the economy a cumulative $1000 billion by 2030, even with Labor allowing gassy Australian businesses to pay foreigners to cut their own emissions instead.

    Power prices would jump another 75 per cent. Your wages would rise even slower.

    That is a huge cost and all to make zero difference.

    Doubt me? Then why won’t Shorten tell you either the cost of Labor’s global warming policy or the difference it would make to the temperature?

    If you don’t know either the cost or the benefit, can you risk voting Labor?

  170. Top Ender

    Suffered through two movies on a Qantas flight last night. Both bad. Here at the Cat we bring you mini-reviews so you don’t have to:

    Vice. About Vice-President of the USA Dick Cheney. Apparently responsible for all government badness from Nixon onwards as an inside manipulator. Quite well done but laughable premise: his action team for world domination consisted of his wife. A joke and rather silly.

    Robin Hood. SJW take on the old story. Uses fantasy backdrops of sword and stone to avoid historical realism. Two leads of Marion and Robin – yes, she’s a stronger character so named first – are so anodyne they”re forgettable. Lead baddies are better but no-one comes near the legendary Sheriff of the Kevin Costner version Alan Rickman. Lots of brown and black people but no gay ones – a serious mistake. At one stage Robin asks the crowd if anyone objects to some “redistribution of wealth.” Totally forgettable.

  171. Numbers, how many Commies did you kill?

    What’s a “Commie”?
    I’ve killed a few roos in my time when driving up and down the Warrego.
    I’m not entirely sure what their political affiliations were.

  172. Infidel Tiger

    Germans are great.
    You know what you are getting.

    Nazis obsessed with their stool.

  173. feelthebern

    Has your missus broken the habit, IT?

  174. Infidel Tiger

    Suffered through two movies on a Qantas flight last night. Both bad. Here at the Cat we bring you mini-reviews so you don’t have to:

    I watched Creed II and First Man on a recent flight.

    Both are excellent. Very excellent.

  175. Eyrie

    “The ‘art’ of running in an engine is mostly lost these days.”
    Sounds like how to run in an aircraft engine. Give it a bit of load by using high manifold pressure/low RPM in intermittent bursts of a few minutes. After about 5 hours the temperatures all fairly quickly go down.

  176. feelthebern

    I watched 300 the other day.
    I wonder when Greece will admit to the the war crimes committed on the Persians (& others) at Thermopylae.

  177. Boambee John

    Overburdened
    #2990755, posted on April 18, 2019 at 9:05 am
    Re carbon credits

    Don’t call them carbon credits, call them by their correct name, “carbon indulgences”. I believe that tbere is a Nigerian “carbon pope” who can give you a good price.

  178. Infidel Tiger

    Has your missus broken the habit, IT?

    Not really.

    She often likes to inform me of the children’s ablutions. I have trained her to no longer talk of her own.

    It’s not an unusual occurrence for her to ask me to come and exam something the kinder have shat.

  179. feelthebern

    I saw the trailer for First Man.
    All I saw was his screaming wife looking for attention.
    Gave it a miss.

  180. OldOzzie

    The Intolerance of the Left

    Captain GetUp threatened with death

    Sascha O’Sullivan
    Reporter

    Political mascot Captain GetUp! has received death threats in the first week on the campaign trail.

    Garard Benedet, the National Director of Advance Australia, the conservative activist group behind the mascot, told Sky News this morning the group had received threats online, but neither Captain GetUp nor Advance Australia would be deterred.

    Advance Australia’s Garard Benedet:

    People want us to hold left-wing activists to account, engage and educate the public and support candidates who are under attack from left-wing activist organisations like GetUp.

    The threats come amid a backlash against the caped crusader and Advance Australia, after the group posted a video showing the mascot gyrating against a billboard of independent candidate for Warringah Zali Steggal.

    “Captain GetUp is designed to raise awareness of GetUp’s past, of its methods and culture and its policy ideas.” Mr Benedet said, “It’s gone a little awry on one occasion and we have made an apology for that.

    “It’s pretty well known we had an incident with Captain GetUp this week,” he added, “It was a mistake and it won’t happen again.”

    Advance Australia’s Garard Benedet:@CaptGetUp is here to raise awareness of GetUp’s past, its methods and policy ideas. We’ll be travelling to marginal seats, particularly where GetUp are targeting MPs on what they call their ‘hit list’.

    Mr Benedet promised in future all content would be personally authorised by him, with his name on it, and Advance Australia would keep their campaign clean.

    “Captain GetUp! will be travelling around to marginal seats, particularly where GetUp are targeting MPs on what they call their hit list,” Mr Benedet said.

  181. Overburdened

    Re the fuckwit express heading from Tasmania, reportedly driving up which will require using the evil polluting Bass Strait ferry service I’m guessing, up to CQ to protest the proposed Adana mine.

    Having done cameos in the region, it has been observed that there’s slim pickings up that neck of the woods as far as supermarkets, restaurants and other facilities.

    If the good folk of Clermont are going to shutter down against the invaders, then the invaders can look forward to a leisurely drive to Moranbah, Dysart, Middlemount or Emerald where they may be greeted with the same lack of enthusiasm for their ideas.

    Maybe they can try their luck at getting a tofu burger in Alpha.

    That’s a lot of driving.

    They should think of the planet.

  182. Mater

    Bob,
    Even assuming the worst of Trump, it would appear that he successfully achieved what you aspired to do, but failed.

    Envy’s an ugly look.

  183. John Constantine

    Ten million ton shortfall in global meat supply this year looming.

    Rabobank calls out incorrect reporting of the scale of the plague in China’s pigs.

    The Tyrant announces a million pigs dead, Rabobank calls two hundred million infected.

    Quarantine massive failure.

  184. John Constantine

    Can Australian quarantine keep swine plague out?.

    Obviously if they are finding some infected chicom pork products, they aren’t getting the lot.

  185. C.L.

    I saw the trailer for First Man.
    All I saw was his screaming wife looking for attention.
    Gave it a miss.

    Yes, that was my impression. Apparently the moon landing was all about her.

  186. Boambee John

    I reckon I’m a bloody sight more self aware than a snake oil merchant who uses fear and hate to seek and hold power.

    But enough about Electricity Bull Shitten!

  187. feelthebern

    John, the Chinese impose price controls on hogs if supply is impacted.
    That hasn’t happened yet.
    I’ll keep you posted though.
    What the punters do on the streets is the best indicator of all.

  188. Overburdened

    BJ

    Thank you for your correction, giving more light to the quality of the exercise.

    I am reminded of the Pardoners Tale from Geoffrey Chaucer’s great work.

  189. lotocoti

    Denmark’s brief war is a pretty good flic.
    See SBS On Demand.

  190. Zatara

    In the interest of expanding one’s vocabulary:

    Defer
    verb (used with object), de·ferred, de·fer·ring.
    1. To put off; postpone.
    2. To postpone the induction of (one eligible for the military draft).

    verb (used without object), de·ferred, de·fer·ring.
    3. to put off action; delay.

  191. feelthebern

    Obviously if they are finding some infected chicom pork products, they aren’t getting the lot.

    Australia imports zero fresh, chilled, frozen pork from China.
    But we do import dried product.
    Mainly in the form of dog & cat food & treats.
    Can swine survive the drying process?
    I don’t know.

  192. John Constantine

    Chicom buyers rumoured to be locking up meat supplies worldwide before announcing the extent of pig plague.

    Plague in the slaughter herd cuts a years production, plague in the breeding herd cuts years of production.

    Comrades.

  193. dover_beach

    Dear God, they are not planning to redesign the spire as opposed to restore it, are they?

  194. feelthebern

    Dear God, they are not planning to redesign the spire as opposed to restore it, are they?

    Yes.
    A design with a crescent moon is the front runner at this time.

  195. Infidel Tiger

    I saw the trailer for First Man.
    All I saw was his screaming wife looking for attention.
    Gave it a miss.

    I avoided it too.

    Was genuinely surprised how good it was.

  196. Roger

    Macron’s announcement that a worldwide architectural comp will he held to design ND’s new spire should frighten and sicken us all.

    He’s promised to make Notre Dame “even more beautiful”.

    I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t submit a design himself.

  197. Infidel Tiger

    The French State owning Notre Dame is terrible.

    The good news is that if they desecrate the site, we can always burn it down again.

  198. Leigh Lowe

    It’s not an unusual occurrence for her to ask me to come and exam something the kinder have shat.

    Relax and have a glass of Kaiser Stuhl.

  199. Infidel Tiger

    He’s promised to make Notre Dame “even more beautiful”.

    I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t submit a design himself.

    Something “Jupiterian”.

  200. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Envy’s an ugly look.

    Well said, Mater.

  201. Mater

    1735099
    #2990778, posted on April 18, 2019 at 9:22 am

    – Were you or were you not deferred twice?

    I was not “deferred”. My enlistment was delayed until I completed one year of teaching, which was a requirement of the then National Service Act.

    Really Bob?
    In that case, you’ve been really loose with the truth.

    1735099
    #622426, posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    I was 23 when I arrived in Vietnam, having been deferred for 2 years because I was at Uni. By the time I got there I’d read everything available on the war and it’s history. I knew what was going on, and history has proved me correct….

  202. lotocoti

    By this time, next week, some Pikey roofer will have talked Macron into handing over the national PIN to do the job.

  203. Mark A

    lotocoti
    #2990780, posted on April 18, 2019 at 9:22 am

    Nah. Germans hands down.

    The Belgians are stealth scumbags.

    Pseudo french, same, same.

  204. thefrollickingmole

    Researchers ‘reboot’ pig brains hours after animals died
    Scientists say ability to revive some brain functions will not change definition of death

    Interesting, not quite futarama “head in a jar” but getting there.

    The brains of decapitated pigs can be partially revived several hours after the animal has died, researchers have revealed, with some of the functions of cells booted back up when an oxygen-rich fluid is circulated through the organ.

    The scientists stress that the brains do not show any signs of consciousness – for example, there was no sign that different parts of the brain were sending signals to each other – and that it does not change the definition of death.

    But they say they have found a way to prevent brain cells from sustaining irreparable damage as blood stops circulating, and even to restore some of the cells’ functions.

    “This is not a living brain. But it is a cellularly active brain,” said Prof Nenad Sestan from Yale University, who led the research.

  205. C.L.

    The prosecution of media figures and organisations for “contempt” is batshit bananas insane.

    Justice John Dixon said the question in his mind was whether the case should be heard as a single trial, 36 separate trials or “something in-between”.

    He is seriously contemplating THIRTY-SIX show trials.
    The purpose of the suppression order, of course, was to prevent commentators from discussing the fact that Pell’s accuser is a mentally deranged, lying c-t.

    More sinister still is the fact that the very same judiciary that will determine Pell’s appeal is this invested in stopping anybody from embarrassing the Victorian justice system

  206. feelthebern

    So do we call numbers 1D or 2D?

  207. Filbert

    Something for Bob Brown’s convoy?

  208. Mother Lode

    *Trump was deferred from the draft for Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

    How is it a problem? I understand he is very healthy. He seems to have unmatched energy. Certainly healthier than the tottering fluid-leaking organ-expectorating dipsomaniac boneless chook he ran against. Or that stuttering posturing self-conceited mirror-fixated jug-eared handbag he took over from. He has sharper wits than most people and his enemies concede his reputed libido (probably grudgingly) every time they try to denigrate him with it.

    Is the insinuation of the above supposed to be that he was deferred because of weight?

    I find it often difficult to plumb the thinking of a bile filled idiot. I am sure I am not alone.

  209. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    By the time I got there I’d read everything available on the war and it’s history. I knew what was going on, and history has proved me correct….

    You fell for the Party line, hook, line and sinker….

  210. Knuckle Dragger

    Winston, dawn;

    Relationships. Risk vs reward.

    I’ve been single for six years, and frankly I’ve never looked back now that I have a point of reference, ie being married.

    I love women. They’re lovely creatures, as long as they’re not the all too common fat, active-wear wearing thigh-tattooed sailor-mouthed eight burgers and Diet Coke eating specimens that infest this fair land.

    They do fulfil certain needs. Any time you feel that need you can easily visit a local establishment and cut one out of the herd. But manacled to one, supposedly for the rest of your life? Not on your nelly.

    If I’m at the pub and my phone rings, I can easily answer it without a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach, knowing that whoever it is, it’s not ‘er indoors screeching where the f*ck are you. My friends remain my friends, and are not subject to a slow campaign of sidelining while her friends become front and centre.

    I can watch whatever TV shows or movies I want, when I want. If I want to go out for the night, or buy a T shirt with a picture of a chick in a bikini on it then I damn well will. I might be a statistical outrider (thanks Crayon Eater, who ‘survived’ his tour in Vietnam by showing pictures to other pogos) but there’s no empty hole that needs filling. I don’t need someone else to complete me.

    That nipper upthread was half right. Physical needs? You bet. Relationships? Yeah nah.

  211. John Constantine

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-vietnam-swinefever/fao-calls-on-vietnam-to-declare-swine-fever-a-national-emergency-idUSKCN1R01A2

    “The loss of pigs due to ASF infection and control measures leads to a heavy economic burden to many rural families,” Albert T. Lieberg, the FAO representative in Vietnam, said following meetings last week with Vietnamese authorities.

    Vietnam has been implementing strict movement control of pigs and pig products and culled more than 25,000, but the FAO said small farms with low biosecurity will allow ASF’s spread.

    The disease, which is incurable in pigs but harmless to humans, has also spread rapidly across neighboring China. Last week, Beijing banned the import of pigs, wild boars and related products from Vietnam.

  212. feelthebern

    This is the only convoy I’d be part of.
    Looks like a lot more fun that Bob Brown’s vegan EV convoy.

  213. John Constantine

    We haven’t been paying sharp attention to the African swine fever epidemic, which surprises Al Mussell, head of research at Agri-Food Economic Systems in Guelph. “I’m a little bit shocked,” he says. “I don’t think people have come around to what this could mean.”

    We’re starting to. Last week, the U.S. Department of Agriculture released statistics for U.S. pork exports. In a single week an unprecedented 77,000 tonnes of pork were exported to China, a vast draw on U.S. production as China looks to replace pork production shortfalls. In an entire year, Mussell says, U.S. exports to China commonly fall between 100,000 and 200,000 tonnes.

    https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/as-scary-swine-fever-spreads-you-may-pay-more-for-your-meat-147834/

    Just sayin, that if chicom press releases say it is all under control, but chicom buying agents are frantically filling ships with product before the price goes up, what do you pay most attention to?

  214. How is it a problem? I understand he is very healthy. He seems to have unmatched energy.

    Like everything else about Fatty 5D* his health status is a scam.

    *Trump was deferred from the draft for Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

  215. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Looks like a lot more fun that Bob Brown’s vegan EV convoy.

    Some people like numbies think mad max is a documentary not a work of fiction.

  216. Leigh Lowe

    Dear God, they are not planning to redesign the spire as opposed to restore it, are they?

    As soon as it fell down, there was never any doubt about that.
    The replacement must, of course, “reflect modern French society” … and we all know what that means.

  217. calli

    The brains of decapitated pigs can be partially revived several hours after the animal has died, researchers have revealed, with some of the functions of cells booted back up when an oxygen-rich fluid is circulated through the organ.

    Good grief! Someone’s been reading C.S. Lewis (as prophetic a modern writer as I’ve found).

    It doesn’t end well, guys.

  218. calli

    Will the new spire be fitted with Inclusiveness Speakers?

  219. John Constantine

    https://www.wired.com/story/african-swine-fever-scientists-should-track/

    The virus can also persist in pig meat — fresh, cured, even frozen for a long time. That’s how it first came to Europe in the 1950s, causing an outbreak that took several years to stamp out: Food left over on a flight from Africa to Portugal was dumped into pig swill at a farm near the Lisbon airport. Researchers at the Pirbright Institute in the United Kingdom have suggested that some of the current European outbreaks originated with boars munching on sandwich scraps that hikers left behind them.

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