Monday Forum: April 15, 2019

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  1. thefrollickingmole

    Good grief! Someone’s been reading C.S. Lewis (as prophetic a modern writer as I’ve found).

    Aaaah so thats the true story around Aslans Resurrection.
    I missed the bit about him being wheeled around in a jar afterwards.

  2. calli

    Victorian justice system

    ***oxymoron alert!***

  3. Nick

    Macron’s announcement that a worldwide architectural comp will he held to design ND’s new spire should frighten and sicken us all.

    Whine whine whine. That pyramid thing worked out fine at the Louvre. Oh hang on.

  4. Five times has got to be a record. If Clinton, Reagan, Bush I and LBJ can get through a Presidency, Trump’s gonna be fine.

    As we age, being slightly overweight is actually a marker of good health.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    And, speaking of pork pies …
    .
    .

    Mater

    #2990821, posted on April 18, 2019 at 9:51 am

    1735099
    #2990778, posted on April 18, 2019 at 9:22 am

    – Were you or were you not deferred twice?

    I was not “deferred”. My enlistment was delayed until I completed one year of teaching, which was a requirement of the then National Service Act.

    Really Bob?
    In that case, you’ve been really loose with the truth.

    1735099
    #622426, posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    I was 23 when I arrived in Vietnam, having been deferred for 2 years because I was at Uni. By the time I got there I’d read everything available on the war and it’s history. I knew what was going on, and history has proved me correct….

  6. calli

    TFM – “That Hideous Strength”

    “Perelandra” was a window into how the SJWs get what they want – when checked or confronted with truth, simply continue on another tack, return to the talking point endlessly, wear down opposition with tireless, pointless debate.

    That didn’t end well either.

  7. GP

    As soon as it fell down, there was never any doubt about that.

    Also an “interfaith” annex, a childcare centre, and a safe injecting room.

  8. Mother Lode

    So do we call numbers 1D or 2D?

    1D.

    Sub-classification: 10T

    So, all up: ID10T

  9. calli

    A glass roof would be a great way to cook Christians.

    Works like a charm at the British Museum.

  10. thefrollickingmole

    In prog world you cant praise anything without mentioning a prog talking point.
    New Gibson movie gets 4/5 stars at the gruinaid, despite the hate for mel.
    Must be ok.

    S Craig Zahler, the director of the bizarre western horror Bone Tomahawk in 2015, has now put together this brutal, nasty, often brilliant Grubby Harry exploitation crime-thriller with flourishes of horror and sadism within its unhurried stakeout tempo and chapter-length scenes, aspiring to the tradition of George Higgins or Ed Bunker. I should point out the critical cognitive dissonance involved in praising anything to do with the disgraced-but-not-overwhelmingly-penitent Mel Gibson. Just as with his directorial effort Apocalypto, I have to pause after each keystroke to give a yelp of resentment.

    https://youtu.be/2p5pdWyyZoc

  11. Knuckle Dragger

    Shorter Window Licker:

    ‘But, but, but….. Trump’s fat!’

    Show me just one world leader Trump’s age, you unparalleled moron, that has the physical function of a 25 year old triathlete.

    He can’t be too bad. He appears in public 99 days out of 100, bounds up and down stairs (speaking of which, with falling up or down stairs like Killary), can get himself into cars without needing two people to hold him up while doing so, and regularly plays golf. At Augusta, no less.

    Just face it. You’re a coward who revels in the overseas service you tried so hard not to perform.

  12. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘without falling’

  13. Leigh Lowe

    If Trump had been killed in Vietnam we would have bee. robbed of the greatest President ever.
    Amazing that he had such foresight and was prepared to sacrifice what would have undoubtedly been a glittering military career to ensure he answered a higher calling decades later.

  14. John Constantine

    Meat industry analyst Simon Quilty said one of the fallouts from the spread of African swine fever was that Chinese consumers had turned off pork and transitioned to beef.

    “Chicken, lamb and mutton has all improved but the importing of beef is about three times more than the next competitor in the protein market,” he said.

    China is the largest pork consumer and producer in the world and Mr Quilty said the best information to date was that China had culled 950,000 head but their inventory figures suggested its pig population had dropped 5 per cent.

    “We do know that 30 per cent of production in China exists in backyards and the government is looking to eradicate all backyard farming because that’s been the biggest cause of the spread of African swine fever, because of the waste that is fed to those pigs,” he said.

    He said there was a culture going back thousands of years, where Chinese people had grown pigs all their lives and they were feeding them in their backyards with waste product.

    “Our expectation is, if they eradicate the backyard pig industry, estimated to be 130 million, that is 30 per cent of their entire pig production that will be eradicated, that’s 17 per cent of the world production,” Mr Quilty said.

    “When you start to weigh up all the numbers, you’ve just seen this massive shortage of protein that’s going to evolve over the next five to 10 years.”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-03-03/african-swine-fever-biosecurity-ramped-up-as-disease-spreads/10848380

  15. feelthebern

    Son: Dad, I’m going to the doctor to get out of Vietnam.
    Father: No son of mine will be a draft dodger. I’ve already told everyone in the parish & the town that my son is going & will serve bravely.
    Son: …..ok.

  16. The purpose of the suppression order, of course, was to prevent commentators from discussing the fact that Pell’s accuser is a mentally deranged, lying c-t.

    Who perjured himself during the committal with no comeuppance (yet).

  17. feelthebern

    Smh today talking about a couple of gay blokes having their reception at the Automobile club in Sydney.
    I’m not sure if they know the place stinks of mildew & their catering is referred to as one of the worst in the city.

  18. OldOzzie

    feelthebern
    #2990835, posted on April 18, 2019 at 10:02 am

    This is the only convoy I’d be part of.
    Looks like a lot more fun that Bob Brown’s vegan EV convoy.

    Fabulous – what happened to all those vehicles?

    and is that an Armstrong Siddley “Converted/Convertiblel” at 1 min 47 secs

  19. Is numbers the only Australian far leftist dumb enough to openly barrack (“root”) for Kim Fatty Fat?

    Hating the President or the Aussie PM is one thing, but it is not as if the Socialist Alternative loons were silly enough to actually cheer on Saddam and the Iraqi Information Minister in 2003.

    On the other hand, I hear Mullah More Hamad and The Sheik All summa bin Lardin’ had great social justice policies that criticised Great Satanic Economic Mills.

    Who hurt you, numbers?

  20. Overburdened

    KD

    Re your observations on the females of the species.

    There are odd occasions when I think it would be nice to have someone female to share joyful moments I have-

    Sunrise over the ocean.

    My scalding hot waterfall outdoor shower in front of a raging fire with a sky full of stars above on a cold winters night.

    Delicious freshly gathered seafood.

    It doesn’t last long until the reality of being shackled to one of them kicks in.

    Women are poison and there are only a few things about them that are any good, and not all the time.

  21. stackja

    Tobruk’s strength as a fortress lay in the fact that for an attacker there was no cover around the perimeter as the area is an almost perfectly flat plateau. With the harbour as the heart of the fortress, the defences built to protect it ran in a rough semicircle across the desert from the coast eight miles east of the harbour to the coast again nine miles west of it. The defences had been hewn from the desert and consisted mainly of dozens of strongpoints. These posts were protected by barbed-wire fences and anti-tank ditches. Supplemented by captured Italian weapons the strength of the garrison lay in its fire-power, and the extensive use of minefields offset to some extent the weakness in infantry.

    This was the position when the Germans launched their ill-fated attack on April 13th, 1941. Known as the “Easter Battle”, the Germans had confidently expected a walk-over – instead it had ended in their being completely routed. The spirit of co-operation, trust and comradeship between the men of the garrison, consisting of two thirds Australian and one third British, was the real strength of Tobruk. No other Middle East front saw understanding between the men of these countries so complete.

  22. feelthebern

    OldOzzie, George Miller needs to make more movies.

  23. Geriatric Mayfly

    The replacement must, of course, “reflect modern French society” … and we all know what that means.

    Something along the lines of The Skipping Girl as a substitute? A few technical problems though in saving the rope and the burqa from entanglement.

  24. Mother Lode

    Who hurt you, numbers?

    Someone give him a moldy potato and ask him to point to where the Orange Man hurt him.

  25. thefrollickingmole

    You know theres no lesson like getting exactly what you asked for good and hard.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/17/more-women-over-40-pregnant-choices-motherhood

    Many women who become mothers after 40 tell me that rather than deliberately delaying motherhood they were simply trying to fulfil the necessary conditions for it: they would have been delighted to have had children earlier if only they had been in a relationship, or in the right relationship. Some had been through divorce or the dissolution of significant relationships in their 30s, just when they had expected to be starting families. Others tell stories of partners who were not sufficiently committed or who did not (yet) want children. And many bemoan the difficulty of finding the right partner in an era of online dating, with unrealistic expectations and the seeming endlessness of options contriving to thoroughly disincentivise commitment, particularly for men. These narratives show us that, although later motherhood is often discussed exclusively in terms of women’s choices and changing roles in society, it is crucial to consider how men’s choices and changing relationship dynamics may also be affecting fertility patterns.

    Fortunately in this brave new world taxpayers can still end up on the hook for ladies choices.

    The ONS statistics also do not give us any information regarding how long women took to conceive; whether they needed fertility treatment to become pregnant, including the use of donor sperm or donor eggs; or how many pregnancies resulted in a miscarriage.

    Thank Gaia for daddy government.

  26. OldOzzie

    bespoke
    #2990844, posted on April 18, 2019 at 10:13 am

    Check this out.

    That was Great Alpha Male 1 – Beta Male 0

  27. Overburdened

    As we used to discuss in my wastrel years, the perfect chick as they were once called was an obedient hot bod mute whose father owned a pub and was deaf because her ears were caked up with opiated hash.

    The innocence of the early 70’s

  28. Knuckle Dragger

    Sea-Patrol on Sky:

    ‘We need to go to zero emissions by 2030, or we’ll run out of time.’

    Failed to expand on the ‘or what?’ factor.

    Also couldn’t explain how much it would cost, but demanded a $2 billion ‘climate nature fund’.

  29. bespoke

    You old farts the reason I have a wonderful wife is she was smart enough to chase me.

  30. As we used to discuss in my wastrel years, the perfect chick as they were once called was an obedient hot bod mute whose father owned a pub and was deaf because her ears were caked up with opiated hash.

    Not mute.

    You want a woman who moans during sex.

    e.g. “You’re always late, never on time, drink too much, …

  31. notafan

    One of the first things arson detectives do is check the insurance on a property that’s just burned. A recent, or relatively recent change of policy with a rise in cover quantum always raises red flags. And four days before the fire, 16 irreplaceable statues were removed.

    Was Notre Dame insured?

  32. Knuckle Dragger

    OB,

    Yup. The only downside is that to reach this realisation it takes painful and expensive experience.

    NB: Once again ladies, I am very, very pro-chick. Should any lade choose to live the same way they’d get a standing ovation from me.

    NNB: Having re-read that, it sounded like an advertisement. it wasn’t.

    NNNB: Yes it was.

  33. notafan

    Owned by the state, Notre Dame was ‘self insured’

    I really can’t see the benefit in the government of France committing arson at Notre Dame,

    As more than a billion euros in donations have poured in to help rebuild Notre-Dame some readers have queried why the French state does not simply make an insurance claim – the likely reason is simple: the cathedral was not insured.

    A document published by an official government agency, La Documentation Française, confirms there is a general rule that ‘the state is its own insurer’, meaning that rather than pay out each year to insure all its buildings, it simply foots the bill itself when damage occurs.

    Connexion asked the Culture Ministry, responsible for the building, for confirmation that this applied to Notre-Dame, but a spokesman said they are not currently commenting on the insurance of the building and will update us in due course. However Le Parisien reports that a government source confirmed to them the cathedral was not insured.

  34. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Her unashamed affluence draws them like splinters from a pustulating thumb. It’s very amusing.

    Terrific imagery, Calli.

    Yep. I enjoy having money and spending money, driving a nice car and having a wide harbor view in our owned home in Australia’s most prestigious suburb. There you go. All legal, earned, taxed, uninherited, and on the property side of wealth creation, well managed by me while busy producing two lovely babies for my adored Da Hairy Ape to add to the two children I’d already been gifted with in life. Lefties do hate all of that, especially that I dumped being a socialist when I was smart enough to see where that was leading.

    They also hate any woman who admits she used her looks to get out of Mt. Druitt and get ahead long before meeting and marrying Hairy – ‘cos he married me for my brains doncha know? True fact. 🙂 He’s a Cambridge graduate and PhD so that figures, plus he’s held some fairly important positions in life in the eyes of some. Well-remunerated ones. Ones where having a wife the pretentious equivalent of Mrs. Bucket just wouldn’t cut it. As Arky says, I’m tougher than that. I’ve had to be.

    That Numbers takes up Nick’s ‘Hyacinth’ meme at all about me shows how pathetically small is the vision that informs such a gross sociological category error. Hyacinth is not even a starter on the learning curve of society’s comedy of manners. I would do Jane Austin proud. Put that in your pipes, dearies.

    Meantime, let’s discuss the state of my fingernails. Or – how about The Lego Movie?

    Saw that yesterday with a little nine year old boy. It’s video game action with a touch of Mad Max. The kids these days like their apocalypses to keep on coming. A Trump-like authority figure departs the scene to play golf while Lego Lefties get on with the real business of discovering that the baddies are really goodies after all if you give them enough love and understanding. They also discover that a man is more attractive to an assertive dominant female (whom he unaccountably finds wonderful) if he becomes less of a Flashman figure and dismisses all impulses he may have to explore his testosterone-driven side.

    I ended up with a headache from all of the re-building and shape-shifting required by the Lego theme. The only bit of it that had any verisimilitude for me (and probably put there for other adult viewers) was when the non-Lego figure of the mum painfully trod on a piece of Lego lying around. I still bear a scar under my instep from one such encounter with a wayward piece of the wretched stuff.

  35. Mother Lode

    The original cathedral stood for centuries, including the last 50 years of government style neglect.

    No architect is trained to design anything that will last anywhere near that long. Nor are the part of a tradition of cathedral builders. They will likely have studied them the way a biologist studies a dead frog pinned to a board and slit open, but not appreciated them with the eye of the faithful.

    The only thing they have going for them is an ill-informed chutzpah that believes the middle ages were peopled by diseased idiots, flat-earthers and superstitious morons. The new architects will be convinced that anything the mediaevals did they will be able to do better, and the last place they will look for ideas and insights will be the cathedral itself.

    The great days of Europe are over. The midgets there now are just going through the motions like mimes had one job only: To be proper curators of a continent sized museum. Don’t fiddle with the exhibits. Just keep them clean and maintain them in their original form.

    And they are about to fuck it up.

  36. mh

    Son: Dad, I’m going to the doctor to get out of Vietnam.
    Father: No son of mine will be a draft dodger. I’ve already told everyone in the parish & the town that my son is going & will serve bravely.
    Son: …..ok.

    Youth is fleeting, Numbers.

    Time to move on.

  37. Arky

    Women are poison

    ..
    It is dose dependent.
    A good woman is an essential precondition for all things that make life really great.
    If you have not found one, don’t make the error of believing the fault is theirs.
    Be a man and fix the situation.

  38. struth

    Sea-Patrol on Sky:

    ‘We need to go to zero emissions by 2030, or we’ll run out of time.’

    Failed to expand on the ‘or what?’ factor.

    Or the UN will be Vewy Vewy angwee.

    2030, the year of the UN.

  39. bespoke

    I really can’t see the benefit in the government of France committing arson at Notre Dame,

    To build anther glass monument to nihilism.

  40. Mother Lode

    Failed to expand on the ‘or what?’ factor.

    Or people will realise the Greens are full of it.

  41. Overburdened

    shorten announces $115m to improve the health outcomes for indigenous Australians.

    Haha on top of how much over how long with limited results except for the ones who joined the mainstream?

    How I remember posters saying ‘use toilet paper’ when I was young.

  42. notafan

    And though I might be repeating a point

    lesbian couple with six special needs children abused them and then drove them off a cliff

    yeah they be better parents

    it’s a preposterous hypothesis that children born of both biological parents in a committed marriage would not be the ideal and provide the best outcomes.

    the sexual revolution has given many many more of the world’s children many many more appalling alternative parenting arrangements

  43. I have a solution for feminists bemoaning women in their 40s conceiving (and not earlier):

    1. Men stop donating sperm.
    2. (Most) men stop dating women in their 40s or older.
    3. Society stops subsidising abortions.
    4. Society stops subsidising, implicitly or not, women’s employment at the expense of men.

  44. Infidel Tiger

    Yep. I enjoy having money and spending money, driving a nice car

    You drive an Audi.

    Get back to us when you get a nice car.

  45. Overburdened

    shorten also called Morrison a cave dweller.

    Morrison is not a cave dweller yet, and may be in the future along with the rest of the citizens if the crazy left have their way.

  46. Arky

    Also prepare to lose everything and face a life of ruin, humiliation and homelessness.

  47. You drive an Audi.

    Commoner. Filthy pleb. Peasant. Cobbler.

    Though, I’d die for an RS3.

  48. Overburdened

    KD

    The lure of the magnet is strong.

  49. struth

    The great days of Europe have been over many times.
    They’ll come back again.

    Poland and other neighbours not surrendering to global socialism will stand as winning economies and cultures and will be emulated upon rebuild.

    It’s a bit like Canada’s recent election result and the push back the left are stating to get here.

    People have experienced freedom and the wealth generating alternative and socialism is a lot more than a welfare state.

  50. Mother Lode

    And four days before the fire, 16 irreplaceable statues were removed.

    Surely in the lead up to Easter that would not be so surprising. I would think there would be a fair whack of preparations in the lead up to major festivals like Christmas and Easter.

    Why now rather than last month or next month could be connected to arson. It might also be connected to what was happening in the cathedral last week different to every other week. Hurried restoration works with chemicals, a spot of carelessness can’t be ruled out.

    Just sayin’.

  51. Atoms for Peace

    Banks are still loaning out to 25 years , prison sentences still way past armageddon we’re all gonna die by 2030 etc.. Don’t forget that there is a cohort out there who’ve been fed this bilge since the mid 90s and still waiting for all of the crap to happen. I think they are a tad cynical..

  52. Overburdened

    It is highly unlikely that any advice or direction from a sheeprooter who dodged school to listen to a wizard would be given much credence.

  53. Knuckle Dragger

    Mother Lode, 10.52 am;

    +1

    Spot on.

    And – if ever they find oak of the required size and density, watch what happens when they try to cut it down.

    The French Greens will no doubt demand the new roof be built with MDF from recycled toilet paper.

  54. Roger

    The new architects will be convinced that anything the mediaevals did they will be able to do better

    Macron: “We will make Notre Dame even more beautiful”.

    The conceit of the moderns.

  55. Also prepare to lose everything and face a life of ruin, humiliation and homelessness.

    Sounds like a sweet deal. Especially the no fault at any time clause.

    Women tend to mate across and up dominance hierarchies and men mate across and down. This had a big impact on human evolution because of the high selection pressure on men.

    “You’re good enough for my (ugly) friend but I can’t personally see any reason why your genetic information should propagate into the future…”

  56. notafan

    The only thing they have going for them is an ill-informed chutzpah that believes the middle ages were peopled by diseased idiots, flat-earthers and superstitious morons. The new architects will be convinced that anything the mediaevals did they will be able to do better, and the last place they will look for ideas and insights will be the cathedral itself.

    No, I have visited many cathedrals in Europe and there is always ongoing maintenance and repair work, there has to be. The first time I vistied the cathedral in Tarragona it was closed for maintenance, the structural parts are finished for now, but the altars still need work.

    There is an entire full time industry of specialists repairing and maintaining gothic and romaneque churches in Europe, and evidence that the work of medieval architects and engineers is enormously respected.

    If they could rebuilt Reims, St Malo, Nevers and many more after the first and second world wars they can still do it.

    Reminds me also that Gaudi’s plans for Sagrada Familia were checked again using computer models and were found to be flawless.

  57. lotocoti

    Though, I’d die for an RS3.

    The pre-update V8 Vantage is rather nice.

  58. Arky

    It is highly unlikely that any advice or direction from a sheeprooter who dodged school to listen to a wizard would be given much credence.

    ..
    True.
    But beside the point.
    Also, in your current circumstances you may need some sheep wrangling tips, so listen up.

  59. Atoms for Peace
    #2990900, posted on April 18, 2019 at 11:03 am

    Banks are still loaning out to 25 years , prison sentences still way past armageddon we’re all gonna die by 2030 etc.. Don’t forget that there is a cohort out there who’ve been fed this bilge since the mid 90s and still waiting for all of the crap to happen. I think they are a tad cynical..

    2030 will be fantastic. I am looking forward to it. It is the year that the senile AGW scam dies in a public and undignified manner.

  60. Knuckle Dragger

    OB,

    As a wise man once said,

    ‘P#ssy will drag you further than gunpowder will blow you.’

  61. Notafan:

    I really can’t see the benefit in the government of France committing arson at Notre Dame,

    It’s gotten the yellow shirts off the front pages for Easter.

  62. Infidel Tiger

    ABC News Politics
    @ABCPolitics
    Democratic 2020 candidate Pete Buttigieg announces that he and his husband are planning to have a child soon.

    Buttigieg revealed the news while fielding questions about his views on paid family leave, an issue he said he has a “personal stake in” (link: https://abcn.ws/2UFmfjT) abcn.ws/2UFmfjT

    This is where a world without shame leads.

    It only gets worse.

  63. struth

    Stay at home for Easter peoples.
    Struth’s road wise advice.
    Worst day to be on the road all year.

    All the townies racing to get out of the city so they can live in closer proximity to each other in packed caravan parks and the like for a few days.
    Easter……stay at home!!

  64. Zatara

    12.5 hours from now (0930 East Coast US time) Attorney General Barr goes live on TV to brief the nation on the Mueller report.

    Which gets released to Congress 1.5 hours later.

    The Dems are spinning like dervishes.

  65. Pretty good idea struth but I have to travel on Monday. Defensive driving and being a stickler for the speed limits, courtesy and correct lane changing. Now I enjoy this sort of thing, I accept that I am ageing.

  66. Arky

    Easter……stay at home!!

    ..
    Correct.
    Also, as long as you don’t live in a holiday destination, your street will be a quiet haven as all the idiots are elsewhere for the weekend.

  67. notafan

    100 years later work is still ongoing, the ruined statues on the exterior were being replaced when I was there a couple of years ago, exact replicas, the damaged ones are in the cathedral museum

    Admittedly the Chagall stained glass in one chapel is modern but still

    The Cathedral was so badly damaged it is known as the ‘Martyr of Reims’.

    Reims Cathedral

  68. Stimpson J. Cat

    Dear God, they are not planning to redesign the spire as opposed to restore it, are they?

    This was always the plan.

    A nice tasteful Catholic Minaret to bring back the crowds.

  69. Woolfe

    ATO survey question for Tax Agents
    “Is it acceptable to take cash to avoid tax”

    TaxMD, and we are paying for this.

  70. Arky

    Democratic 2020 candidate Pete Buttigieg announces that he and his husband are planning to have a child soon.

    ..
    To eat?

  71. notafan

    Surely in the lead up to Easter that would not be so surprising. I would think there would be a fair whack of preparations in the lead up to major festivals like Christmas and Easter.

    Notre Dame was in the process of renovation which is why a lot of stuff was removed

  72. Mother Lode

    There is an entire full time industry of specialists repairing and maintaining gothic and romaneque churches in Europe, and evidence that the work of medieval architects and engineers is enormously respected.

    Restoration, as in re-creating what was designed already.

    They aren’t looking to do that with Notre Dame. They want a new spire.

    They want to make it ‘modern’. And to reflect what the French government dictates to its people what they are going to be.

  73. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stay at home for Easter peoples.

    Some of us are working all weekend rather than taking days of like that lazy Jesus character.

  74. Arky

    Some of us are working all weekend

    ..
    Why?
    If you don’t die before you can enjoy the proceeds, the government will take it all off you one way or another.

  75. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m just joking of course.
    I’m having Sunday and Monday off too,
    no need to get cross.

  76. Ellie

    Easter……stay at home!!

    Nup. I’m heading out of Sydney tonight – off road (4WDing) to a quaint little cottage – not a soul in sight – out the back of Tilba. Bliss 🙂

  77. Infidel Tiger

    Which will be built first: our subs or Notre Dame?

  78. thefrollickingmole

    Stay at home for Easter peoples.
    Struth’s road wise advice.
    Worst day to be on the road all year.

    Bad enough last week with the start of school holidays.
    2 near death incidents witnessed in a 1000km trip, including a near head on missed by maybe 50 m (not much when both are travelling 110kpm towards each other)

    Idiot with a van trying to overtake a semi, you could see the oncoming car when he only had his nose alongside the last trailer of the truck, but rather than pull back in the whacker kept trying to overtake… very slowly.
    Other driver wasnt any better, he stayed firmly fixed in his lane because he had “right of way” which was sure to protect him from a head on..
    As it went if the truckie hadnt blown a little smoke off his tires its 99% sure both idiots would have killed each other.

  79. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Eyewitness to Justine Damond shooting gives evidence in Mohamed Noor trial
    Sarah Blake, US Correspondent, News Corp Australia Network
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    The sole independent eyewitness to the shooting death of unarmed Australian woman Justine Ruszczyk Damond has finally spoken in public, but his testimony was dismissed as untrustworthy.

    William Sax was just 16 and riding his bike to a friend’s house after drinking whiskey shots and smoking marijuana when he passed close to the car being driven by Minneapolis police officers Mohamed Noor and Matthew Harrity, who were responding to a 911 call made by Ms Damond.

    Sax, now 17, said he put his head down when he saw police, not wanting to draw their attention because he was carrying more pot in his pocket.

    Moments later, Noor shot Ms Damond, the bullet tearing through a major artery and stopping at her spine. Sax pulled out his phone and started recording, with his 29 second video catching their unsuccessful efforts to save Ms Damond.

    Ms Damond, 40, was barefoot and wearing pyjamas. The former Sydney life coach moved to the midwest US city to live with fiance Don Damond and the pair had planned to marry within a month.

    Sax initially told investigators he saw Ms Damond with her phone at her ear, trying to get the attention of Noor and Harrity. In evidence that he admitted wasn’t credible because he’d been drinking and smoking drugs, Sax also said he saw Noor take the shot from outside the patrol car.

    When he was asked to explain why his accounts of what happened had changed, Sax told the court that he “tried to get it out of my head as fast as possible after”.

    “I currently don’t remember most of that situation,” he said.

    Multiple witnesses have told the trial, now in its third week, that Noor shot from inside the car. The court has not yet heard testimony from Harrity and it is unclear whether Noor will take the stand.

    Noor, 33, has pleaded not guilty to murder and manslaughter charges, with his lawyers arguing he fired because he believed he was in the middle of a “cop ambush”, in part because there had been spate of them in the US in the months before. They claim Ms Damond slapped the back of the squad car, frightening the pair, however the trial has heard there is no evidence this happened and police appeared to develop the “slap” theory in the hours and days after Ms Damond was shot.

  80. notafan

    The copper statues on the spire were mid 19th century so ‘irreplacable’?

    The original spire was destroyed by the french revolutionaries as were the statues of 28 kings inside the cathedral , for obvious anti monarchical revolutionary reasons..

    As for rebuilding the copper sheathed spire in timber, as it is not a visible part of the building why wouldn’t someone sensibly use non flammable material instead?

    People need to stop rending their garments

    though the article is dumb enough

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    The word ‘travesty’ doesn’t do this justice.

    Borce Ristevski, who killed his wife at their Avondale Heights home before stuffing her corpse in the boot of her car, driving it out to bushland near Gisborne before jamming it in between two logs, and then denying anything to do it despite a mountain of evidence against him, has pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of manslaughter on the even of his murder trial.

    Today he was sentence to nine years’ imprisonment – eligible for parole after six.

    Now – the system allows Ristevski to plead to manslaughter rather than the murder charge filed against him. Manslaughter allows a slightly less maximum sentence than murder (20 years, but it’s never been applied).

    BUT – given that Ristevski made no admissions, and has still refused to provide details as to how and why he killed his wife, the OPP is equally within their rights to tell him to jam his guilty plea to manslaughter up his arse and go ahead with the murder trial. Which would have found him guilty. And banged up for twice as long, at least.

    The Homicide blokes would be going nuclear.

    The only possible explanation I can think of for the OPP taking this course of action is related to cost. Even then it’s a stupid reason.

    Gobsmacking.

  82. Mother Lode

    Which will be built first: our subs or Notre Dame?

    Which one will be more buoyant.

    And mobile.

  83. stackja

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2990924, posted on April 18, 2019 at 11:15 am

    Rest of Friday, Saturday. But on Sunday.

  84. Stimpson J. Cat

    Which will be built first: our subs or Notre Dame?

    Notre Dames New Minaret will be built first.

  85. Arky

    All the good men of previous ages who died getting us where we were.
    In war, or in the brutal conditions necessary to drag us into the industrial age.
    Blown up by shells, shot, scalded in boiler explosions or swept overboard from atop masts.
    And you are scared of what?
    Women.

  86. Bruce of Newcastle

    Democratic 2020 candidate Pete Buttigieg announces that he and his husband are planning to have a child soon.

    He skipped biology classes at school?

  87. thefrollickingmole

    Which will be built first: our subs or Notre Dame?

    The subs will be more flammable as well.

  88. OldOzzie

    Mother Lode
    #2990883, posted on April 18, 2019 at 10:52 am

    The original cathedral stood for centuries, including the last 50 years of government style neglect.

    No architect is trained to design anything that will last anywhere near that long. Nor are the part of a tradition of cathedral builders. They will likely have studied them the way a biologist studies a dead frog pinned to a board and slit open, but not appreciated them with the eye of the faithful.

    Mother Lode

    No architect is trained to design anything that will last anywhere near that long

    Not True

    Three buildings by respected architects Joseland & Gilling demonstrate the evolution and increasing sophistication of concrete construction during the 1960s: the United Insurance Building at 280-288 George Street; the Qantas International Centre, bounded by Lang, Grosvenor, George and Jamison Streets; and the South British Insurance building at 40-42 Hunter Street.

    Concrete’s exiting structural potential was convincingly exploited in the Qantas International Centre. In August 1968 Qantas applied to exempt the site form the provisions of the County of Cumberland Planning Scheme.93 It was intended to construct the Centre in three stages, consisting of a subterranean computer
    centre and two office towers. Only the computer centre and the taller tower were built as conceived. The 200 metre high office tower, which would have been designed in 1967-6894, was intended wholly for Qantas’ use.

    The structure and services determined the form – clear floor spans were achieved through the canted columns at each corner of the tower in which service riser were incorporated,, a central core and precast concrete tee beams spanning from core to building perimeter,. These were supported offsteel rope tension members extending between external trusses which were located at plant room floors.
    Services were distributed between the tee beams and power and communications beneath accessible flooring. A sheer glazed curtain wall extended between the corner columns.

    The Qantas International Centre was designed to last 400 years – These were supported offsteel rope tension members extending between external trusses which were located at plant room floors. t for example gave protection against earthquake by absobing the vibration in the tensioned wires

  89. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Clermont businesses refuses to serve anti-Adani protesters
    Renee Viellaris, Federal Political Editor, The Courier-Mail
    April 17, 2019 7:30pm
    Subscriber only

    TOUGH-NUT locals in Clermont will refuse to serve activists in their pubs and cafes as their tiny town becomes ground zero for hundreds of anti-Adani protesters led by former Greens leader Bob Brown.

    Activists left Tasmania yesterday for 10 rallies in four states over 18 days but the Queensland town closest to the Adani’s Carmichael mine wants protesters to go back, warning they would not be welcome in a town desperate for jobs.

    It comes as the State Government announced a $1 billion coal mine in the Galilee Basin that could create 500 jobs in construction has been declared a co-ordinated project by the independent Coordinator-General.

    The Winchester South project near Moranbah, west of Mackay, could start construction by 2021 and is an open-cut metallurgical coal mine that could produce up to 8 million tonnes of coal for 30 years.

    There are genuine fears that if the Adani mine gets scuttled it could prevent six other mines in the Galilee Basin from going ahead.

    About 500-800 anti-Adani activists are expected to join the convoy, which will campaign in Brisbane over Easter before heading up the coast and then west to the 2000-strong town of Clermont.

    “Do not come up here. We don’t want you coming here and wrecking our industry,’’ Grand Hotel Motel publican Kelly Appleton warned. “You will not get a meal in my pub.”

    It is a message echoed by Leo Hotel Motel publican Les Boal and other businesses who are putting up signs telling activists they will not be served.

  90. Stimpson J. Cat

    Rest off Friday

    I’m working Friday.
    We can’t all drop tools like some lazy sandal wearing tekton and hang out getting pissed with the boys.
    Some of us have responsibilities.

  91. Dr Faustus

    Democratic 2020 candidate Pete Buttigieg announces that he and his husband are planning to have a child soon.

    Soon?
    I would have though that’ll keep them occupied for quite a while.

  92. Which will be built first: our subs or Notre Dame?

    Both will have lots of silicon sealant, glass, concrete bricks, concrete slabs and steel reinforcement.

    Won’t anyone think of the Carbon footprint?

  93. Viva

    If they could rebuilt Reims, St Malo, Nevers and many more after the first and second world wars they can still do it.

    Yes. Cathedrals and churches throughout Germany display photos of the utter ruins of these buildings in the aftermath of WW 2

  94. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh please.

    Please please please please.

    Can just one of the scrawny activists, crazed by hunger, pinch just one Mars Bar from a Clermont shop.

    The carnage will be Biblical in its savagery.

  95. OldOzzie

    Overburdened
    #2990894, posted on April 18, 2019 at 10:58 am

    shorten also called Morrison a cave dweller.

    Morrison is not a cave dweller yet, and may be in the future along with the rest of the citizens if the crazy left have their way.

    It is Labor.Greens who are going to make Australians Venezualian Cave Dwellers as depicted by Johannes Leak in The Australian

  96. Knuckle Dragger

    Arky,

    Not scared of the bloody things. I just don’t see the need to have one hanging around all day every day, making unwarranted demands on my time.

    I have procreated. I will wave goodbye to my 14 year old son and heir, the sword in my right hand at the airport on Sunday morning. It’s been excellent beyond belief. He’s the same height I was at 14 (six foot one), the same build, looks the same as I did (and compared photos to prove it) and has the same attitude.

    I only hope he’s inherited some of the gentler traits of his mother, and avoids some of the mistakes made by his bull-at-a-gate, loose cannon wrecking ball of a father.

    I would spare him that.

  97. The brains of decapitated pigs can be partially revived several hours after the animal has died…
    The scientists stress that the brains do not show any signs of consciousness…
    “This is not a living brain. But it is a cellularly active brain,” said Prof Nenad Sestan from Yale University, who led the research.

    So they’ve created filthy animals that roll around in shit, squeal loudly and have a barely functioning brain.
    The headline should be “Scientists recreate leftists in lab.”

  98. Speedbox

    Audi R8 V10 is an exception.

    If that’s Lizzie’s weapon of choice then she should be forgiven.

  99. Arky:

    And you are scared of what?
    Women.

    No.
    A woman.
    And with the amount of unfettered power that our ‘socialist justice system’ gives her.

  100. Percy Popinjay

    Following on from IT’s link to the piece on the perils of modern arkytecture:

    New York City’s original Penn Station was one of the finest buildings ever constructed. With its vast main hall and soaring concourse, it provided a triumphant gateway into the city. Its demolition in 1963 was one of the greatest architectural and civic crimes in American history.

  101. Knuckle Dragger

    Bloody hell. Just watched an ad for Rio Tinto. Oh, a mining ad, I thought.

    Nope. This one consisted of two blokes with impeccable dress sense proposing to each other on a pier, surrounded by screeching women who looked like they’d just walked out of Flemington. And something about ‘change’.

    Dump your stocks, people.

  102. bespoke

    Heading to a mates Station, booze, heavy machinery and freshly killed Lamb.

  103. May I suggest solar panels on the roof of the new Notre Dame?

  104. Percy Popinjay

    Dump your stocks, people.

    They’re just about to pay me a mighty dividend. Very soon after that.

  105. Stimpson J. Cat

    Women

    Why would anyone in their right mind marry a Western Woman when you can marry an Ethnic Women with manners, class, who knows how to cook and clean, when to be quiet and when to speak, and who is capable of feeling empathy?

    Western Women will be extinct in two generations, mark my words.

    It will all be Ethnics and Sex Robots.

    All that future historians will find of them will be the puzzling fossil mounds of Silicon implants and rotting Activewear.

  106. This one consisted of two blokes with impeccable dress sense proposing to each other on a pier, surrounded by screeching women who looked like they’d just walked out of Flemington.

    Is this another example of hypergamy?

  107. Mother Lode

    The Qantas International Centre was designed to last 400 years

    Time will tell, I suppose.

  108. GP

    Democratic 2020 candidate Pete Buttigieg announces that he and his husband are planning to have a child soon.

    I’m so excited for them. Curled up in the marital bed of an evening browsing the online surrogate catalogues when suddenly: “Pete, I’ve found the one! Call the womb broker right now!”

  109. Why would anyone in their right mind marry a Western Woman when you can marry an Ethnic Women with manners, class, who knows how to cook and clean, when to be quiet and when to speak, and who is capable of feeling empathy?

    You mean I should aim higher than Chanty Binx and Kelli Jean Drinkwater?

    The more you know.

  110. Viva

    No architect is trained to design anything that will last anywhere near that long. Nor are the part of a tradition of cathedral builders. They will likely have studied them the way a biologist studies a dead frog pinned to a board and slit open, but not appreciated them with the eye of the faithful.

    You forget they are engaged in building the great Gaudi cathedral, the Sagrada Família, in Barcelona.

  111. Stimpson J. Cat

    You mean I should aim higher than Chanty Binx and Kelli Jean Drinkwater?
    The more you know.

    Stop hanging around with Libertarians and you might meet some Women.

    If you want a mail-order Bride I can make some calls.

    I’ll need a new catalogue first from my family though.

  112. OldOzzie

    Combet’s plan for your money

    The former union leader and Labor MP has super powers in one of the nation’s key financial systems. And he’s not afraid to exercise it.

    By Ewin Hannan

    Greg Combet would be entitled to wonder what might have been. Six years ago, in the dying days of her prime ministership, Julia Gillard told Combet she would stand aside if he were prepared to run against Kevin Rudd for the Labor leadership. Combet had been thinking about his political future for some time and the Gillard offer “forced me to make a decision”. He declined and soon left federal parliament.

    Combet, the young mining engineer who went on to lead the union movement before switching to politics and ascending to federal cabinet, says he doesn’t look back and think he could have been in the Lodge.

    “No I don’t, because I made a hard-headed decision,” he says. “I did have some health problems. I just decided I wasn’t really strong enough to do a job as demanding as that any more. As much as I love the Labor Party and the labour movement, it was better for me personally. There were other reasons as well but it was important that I was honest with myself about it.

    “To be frank, I think Bill Shorten is a lot better at politics than I am. I am really pleased at his success. He’s really well equipped for the job I think and certainly much better than I would have been. We were always kind of pitted against each other as rivals. He’s a good bit younger than I am (Combet is 60 and Shorten turns 52 on May 12) and I used to think that a bit odd at times. We were always cast that way a bit. We have certainly become closer since I left politics.”

    ‘To be frank, I think Bill Shorten is a lot better at politics than I am’

    Combet pauses, laughing at his last observation, before adding: “I am really pleased for him and he’s worked his guts out for the past six years and deserves success.”

    Combet has built his own post-political career and is now a significant figure in the $2.8 trillion superannuation system. In December, he took on the chairmanship of Industry Super Australia, which manages projects on behalf of 15 industry super funds, and became chairman of its jointly owned funds management company, the $113 billion IFM Investors.

    The growth and size of the superannuation system is mind-boggling.

    “I certainly think about it, alright,’’ Combet says in an interview with The Deal. “The largest component of it is the self-managed super sector and that’s concentrated very much among high-wealth individuals. The industry funds are the second largest and we are just outstripping the retail sector now.

    “It’s a very, very big system and it’s larger than the market capitalisation of the ASX and it’s larger than Australia’s GDP by a decent margin and it will grow more rapidly than the ASX and GDP. By 2030, another 11 years away, it might be $5 trillion.”

    Could he envisage super funds moving to take full ownership of companies rather than investing in them in shares?

    “Just consider the size of the system and the fact that it will be multiples of GDP potentially,” he says. “It means the savings that it represents have to find investment outlets and increasingly that will be global. When it gets to this sort of scale, you have got to find opportunities offshore to invest the money as well as domestically.

    “So that’s why IFM Investors has been globalising and we want to obviously work with the industry funds sector to help to develop the opportunities to find successful investments offshore. But domestically you look at it and think, ok, we are long-term investors. We want to know a company very well in which we are investing a lot of people’s retirement savings. Unlisted equity I think will be an increasing feature of the investments we make and sometimes that might mean delisting a company.”

    Combet references AustralianSuper’s bids for education provider Navitas and private hospital operator HealthScope, both done in partnership with private equity fund BGH Capital.

    “You might see a little more of that from time to time,” he says. “I’m not saying that’s some major specific thing but it’s also not a bad thing. If those companies can be well run and run on a long-term basis to deliver value for people’s retirement savings, then it can be a good thing for the economy. There are risks in every investment. The stockmarket is inherently very risky. An unlisted asset might be less so.”

    Combet is keen to advance the use of superannuation in big infrastructure projects and IFM Investors is leading a consortium to build a fast rail link to Melbourne Airport.

    “We are now turning our mind more to how we can collaborate with governments and other businesses to take some greenfield risk and develop infrastructure for the long term for the country,” he says. “That requires a collaboration to be able to do that. Obviously it has to meet public policy requirements and make sense from a transport infrastructure viewpoint, for example, or planning in the electricity sector. It’s got to make sense from a public policy and economic standpoint as well as make a good investment.

    “That is the way we are approaching the fast rail link from Southern Cross station to Melbourne Airport. We have planned that proposal to complement and support the development of public transport infrastructure so it’s specifically fast rail to the west of the state. So we’re thinking like that for the future for infrastructure in Australia and we’re really keen to invest.

    “There may be other transport projects. Everyone is circling around Western Sydney Airport and thinking, ok, that’s going ahead, what does that mean for the infrastructure needs in Sydney?”

    Combet says the findings of the banking royal commission and the Productivity Commission report which found a 2 per cent performance gap between the industry funds and the retail funds have changed the industry landscape.

    “The royal commission has shown up the inherent conflict that the trustees of the retail funds have been experiencing — that is, the interests of their parent entity to drive fees and commissions and shareholder return out of the superannuation product, but, at the same time, the trustees having a duty to the best interests of the members,” he says. “I think the royal commission has laid that conflict absolutely bare. I think it’s been to the profound discredit of the retail funds. The second thing has been the Productivity Commission, which has validated what the industry funds have been saying for years about out-performance by the industry funds of the retail sector. It’s to the tune, or in the order of, 2 per cent per annum, which is very significant to people’s retirement savings.

    “I think we have a much greater level of analysis and insight into how the superannuation savings sector is operating and, quite legitimately, it’s contributing to a greater focus on governance, on fees and on commissions. So the reforms the royal commission has recommended, I think they are very important to be seen through.

    “They will be challenging for the business model of the banks and AMP — the way they have had their wealth divisions over the last 20 years — because they’re based upon conflicted remuneration and the royal commission recommendations look to address that problem.”

    While describing the commission’s empirical analysis as sound, Combet does not support its contentious proposal for prospective employees to be provided with a list of the 10 top-performing super funds to choose from. He hopes the proposal is dead in the water. “They want to get rid of a system that’s been low-cost and efficient, and create this 10 best in show which just creates a rumble among the top performing funds instead of addressing the real issue, which is the chronic underperforming funds. If you create that sort of rumble at the top, people will start changing their strategic asset allocations, spending more on marketing. It will change the behaviour of the most successful funds potentially and I think that’s a bad thing. Really, the major public policy challenge is to start at the bottom (which is) chronic underperformance. Anyone who is thoughtful about the system would dismiss it. It’s a silly recommendation and really unsupported by any analysis.”

    Industry funds have been in regular conflict with the federal Coalition government, including over moves to weaken union representation on boards. Treasurer Josh Frydenberg recently wrote to the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority, asking whether it had the power to ensure union-appointed super trustees did not pursue political objectives at the expense of members’ interests. The intervention by Frydenberg came after the ACTU backed a maritime union campaign for industry funds to pressure BHP and BlueScope Steel into reversing a decision not to renew a contract for two Australian-crewed vessels, and after AustralianSuper, where ACTU president Michele O’Neil is an alternate board director, pressured global commodity group Glencore to cap its coal production.

    APRA said in March that super fund board trustees must undertake their duties “free from the influence of sponsoring organisations”.

    “The ACTU and the unions are entitled to express their view, I don’t think APRA is questioning that,” says Combet, a former ACTU secretary. “That’s their day job. They are representing people. They contribute to public policy debate about super and many other issues. But once you go into a superannuation boardroom, you’re in the realm of trust law, you’re a trustee for people’s money. So in there you’ve got the sole purpose and you must look at everything through a member benefit lens, and that is the benefit to the superannuation fund members.

    “This has been a very successful collaboration between business and unions, the industry super sector. (It’s) an equal representation model and it takes a two-thirds majority to make a decision if it’s otherwise not by consensus, obviously. That structure has worked really well for 25 years and it is a strong protection against partisan issues being brought inside the boardroom.”

    He says he has no doubt that O’Neil, when she goes into the boardroom as an alternate director, understands her trustee duties. “Just because someone makes a speech or writes a letter doesn’t mean that all of a sudden these multibillion-dollar institutions run around doing someone’s bidding,’’ he says. “It just doesn’t work like that.”

    That said, Combet argues that labour relations and industrial relations practices can be legitimately scrutinised “within a proper investment and member interest lens”.

    “There is legitimate territory, of course, for examining environmental, social and governance issues, including labour relations from an investor standpoint, in the interests of the members of the fund,” he says. “That conversation’s gone on for many years, and it’s not only, of course, among industry funds. It’s investors all around the world. Looking at climate risk and the long-term risk associated with particular assets is really an important thing for an investor.”

    He cites a 2017 dispute where unions campaigned against IFM Investors and AustralianSuper after electricity distributor Ausgrid embarked on job cuts. Ausgrid, which is majority-controlled by the two funds, outsourced jobs to an Indian consortium and compelled some of the affected Australian workers to go to India to train their foreign replacements. It closed a call centre and axed staff.

    “While that was a difficult process and we copped some criticisms, including me personally, at the end of the day, there’s a new enterprise agreement in place,” Combet says.

    Workers got pay rises. Redundancies were voluntary, with enhanced payouts. There were new training programs and an improved classification structure to provide greater multi-skilling and career enhancement.

    “We approached it in a disciplined way as investors but with respect for the workforce. It is a good practical example of how we do try to manage these things when you get to the real investment level. A lot of this conversation takes place in the stratosphere but the rubber hits the road when you are down on the ground.”

    Combet says he is “feeling pretty good” about his latest career transition and moving on from politics. We talk about his entry into politics in 2007 when Rudd, no fans of unions, told Combet: “You are going to have to be deunionised first.”

    “He’s a funny guy,’’ Combet says of Rudd. “I saw him in Brisbane about six months ago. He was reflecting on some of those things and kind of implied that maybe he should have dealt with that a bit differently, not just with me but with me and Shorten and people like us coming in. He was taking the counsel of people like (former Labor politician) Mark Arbib and I think he realised maybe he should have taken some counsel from others too. Mark Arbib’s advice didn’t get him very far.

    “It’s taken some years (post-politics) to really settle and find my feet but I have been very fortunate to have the opportunity in the industry funds. I feel proud and privileged to be in the roles I am in now. They are big important institutions. I am very committed to them from a personal values point of view and I really appreciate the support that I have had to attain these positions.”

  113. Ellie

    Ethnic women? $$ Love you long time.

  114. Arky

    Not scared of the bloody things. I just don’t see the need to have one hanging around all day every day, making unwarranted demands on my time.

    ..
    Get with the modern times.
    They work.
    That leaves you all the time you need for car restorations, going to the gym and spouting endless stupid shit online.

  115. Arky

    Look. Women enjoy working.
    It is still a bit of a novelty to them and they think they are doing important stuff.
    Whereas we all know that the minute you retire, drop dead or drop out you will be instantaneously replaced and forgotten.

  116. stackja

    Percy Popinjay
    #2990961, posted on April 18, 2019 at 11:47 am
    Dump your stocks, people.

    They’re just about to pay me a mighty dividend. Very soon after that.

    BS wants your franks.

  117. Speedbox

    Why would anyone in their right mind marry a Western Woman…..

    Yep.

  118. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ethnic women? $$ Love you long time.

    You know, classy Women who call their Men boyfriends rather than “partners”.

  119. Ellie

    Lots of men here appear to have had bad experiences with western women. I’m best buddies with all my exes 😁

  120. Sinclair Davidson

    From our old friend Homer’s blog:

    Unfortunately most programs won’t let me on the air.

    No!

  121. Arky

    The only important thing you can do in life is leave behind functional descendants.
    Everything else is either a means to an end or a pastime.

  122. Infidel Tiger

    From our old friend Homer’s blog:

    Unfortunately most programs won’t let me on the air.

    No!

    Good old Homer is exactly right.

    Let him on air!

  123. Mindfree

    The word ‘travesty’ doesn’t do this justice.

    Borce Ristevski, who killed his wife at their Avondale Heights home before stuffing her corpse in the boot of her car, driving it out to bushland near Gisborne before jamming it in between two logs, and then denying anything to do it despite a mountain of evidence against him, has pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of manslaughter on the even of his murder trial.

    Today he was sentence to nine years’ imprisonment – eligible for parole after six.

    Now – the system allows Ristevski to plead to manslaughter rather than the murder charge filed against him. Manslaughter allows a slightly less maximum sentence than murder (20 years, but it’s never been applied).

    BUT – given that Ristevski made no admissions, and has still refused to provide details as to how and why he killed his wife, the OPP is equally within their rights to tell him to jam his guilty plea to manslaughter up his arse and go ahead with the murder trial. Which would have found him guilty. And banged up for twice as long, at least.

    The Homicide blokes would be going nuclear.

    The only possible explanation I can think of for the OPP taking this course of action is related to cost. Even then it’s a stupid reason.

    Gobsmacking.

    KD

    Compare that to the sentence handed down to Jack Aston from Ballarat, a bus driver who (stupidly and despite not noticing warning signs) drove his bus into the Montague Street underpass bridge injuring a couple of passengers but not seriously

    The company took responsibility as Aston was based in Ballarat and did not have experience of driving in Melbourne and his defence team put up this defence and that he seemed confused but the judge rejected their admission stating that “Employers cannot be blamed for obvious failings of employees” wow never heard that from a judge in recent times

    Now you would think that he would have been sacked and given maybe a suspended sentence based on other similar incidents however, Aston was sentenced to 5 years and 3 months gaol with a non-parole oeriod of 2 and half years

    Victorian Justice system at work

  124. Ellie

    Being a new convert to Macquarie Sports Radio, I’ve been a tad disappointed they’ve brought politics into their discussions. I tuned in to escape politics. It’s everywhere! 😱

  125. Stimpson J. Cat

    all my exes

    There is your problem right there.
    You don’t even see it, do you?

    Classic.

  126. C.L.

    The push will be to ‘re-imagine’ Notre Dame as a ‘monument’ to ‘all faiths.’ The spire will almost certainly be a faintly disguised minaret. There will also be enemies within: namely liturgical Maoists who will object to any remnant of a Tridentine altar or altar rails.

  127. Today he was sentence to nine years’ imprisonment – eligible for parole after six.

    Aston was sentenced to 5 years and 3 months gaol with a non-parole oeriod of 2 and half years

    Wow, what a travesty. A stupid, honest mistake is in the same league as intentional homicide?

  128. Tom

    Just face it. You’re a coward who revels in the overseas service you tried so hard not to perform.

    Bingo, Knuckle Dragger!

    To the Rabz declaration (Shut.It.Down Fire.Them.All), I would like to add the TomTom:

    Leftards lie about everything. All the time.

    Especially pig-ignorant loudmouth knowall trolls.

  129. Stimpson J. Cat

    An Ethnic Woman’s idea of sacrifice is prostituting herself to feed her family because she has no other option.
    A Western Woman’s idea of sacrifice is not eating chocolate before lunch.

    A very different set of morals.

  130. Tom

    Just face it. You’re a coward who revels in the overseas service you tried so hard not to perform.

    Bingo, Knuckle Dragger!

    To the R*bz declaration (Shut.It.Down Fire.Them.All), I would like to add the TomTom:

    Leftards lie about everything. All the time.

    Especially pig-ignorant loudmouth knowall trolls.

  131. Knuckle Dragger

    Mindfree,

    With time served, he’ll be out in less than five.

    The OPP still have the option of appealing the sentence as manifestly inadequate. However, given their acceptance of the manslaughter plea and refusal to go in hard for the murder beef, it’s hard to see that happening.

    The old mantra applies – we don’t have a justice system, we have a legal system.

  132. C.L.

    Here is the buttock-ugly interior of St Patrick’s cathedral in Parramatta following its restoration after the 1996 fire (started by an arsonist).

    Parishioners affected by blaze in Parramatta empathise with people of Paris.

  133. C.L.

    How the media ignores race in certain circumstances …
    Gang of teenage girls is caught on video taunting a young woman on the tube, grabbing her by the hair and trying to steal her phone in horrifying video.

    The “gang of teenage girls” was actually a gang of black teenage girls.
    The “young woman” was actually a white young woman.

    Which is why the Daily Mail has turned off comments.
    But fear not; the Home Secretary is on the case:

    Today Home Secretary Sajid Javid spoke on the violence on London’s streets stating that it should be treated like the outbreak of a ‘virulent disease’, as he outlined his blueprint for stopping the bloodshed on Britain’s streets.

    Sajid Javid called for a two-pronged approach, involving limiting the opportunities for crime and reforming the lives of would-be criminals to ensure ‘nobody gets left behind’.

  134. bespoke

    Especially pig-ignorant loudmouth know nothing trolls

    Fixed

    your welcome.

  135. Zatara

    Speaking of St. Patrick’s, a man was just arrested walking around St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York with two full cans of gasoline.

    Just a coincidence I’m sure.

  136. Zatara

    MIDTOWN, Manhattan (WABC) — A 37-year-old man from New Jersey attempted to enter St Patrick’s Cathedral with two gasoline cans Wednesday night, police sources say.

    The man is, for the moment, being considered an emotionally disturbed person.

    But of course.

  137. mh

    Ellie
    #2990994, posted on April 18, 2019 at 12:08 pm
    Being a new convert to Macquarie Sports Radio, I’ve been a tad disappointed they’ve brought politics into their discussions. I tuned in to escape politics. It’s everywhere! 😱

    I put it on first thing this morning. First up, one of the Wallabies, I think Will Genia, going on and on about how unacceptable Folau’s comments were. FMD, it’s Orthodox Christianity – the same message as the Salvation Army. I switched over to 4TAB, thank you Peter Psaltis! They were talking about SPORT! Well, betting on sport, anyway.

  138. Infidel Tiger

    Here is the buttock-ugly interior of St Patrick’s cathedral in Parramatta following its restoration after the 1996 fire (started by an arsonist).

    Looks like an Ikea Church.

  139. Ellie

    There is your problem right there.
    You don’t even see it, do you?

    Stimpson, I was being facetious – joking, making fun … you know, like you try to do.
    It appears we both fail.

  140. Ellie

    I put it on first thing this morning. First up, one of the Wallabies, I think Will Genia, going on and on about how unacceptable Folau’s comments were

    I heard it too, mh. Switched it off.

  141. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson, I was being facetious – joking, making fun … you know, like you try to do.
    It appears we both fail.

    Well I’m still laughing so I don’t think I failed.
    Try and see the funny side.

  142. The LA Cathedral (Our Lady of Angels) is how you do modernism.

    I don’t like the exterior from all angles but the interior is gorgeous.

  143. thefrollickingmole

    The man is, for the moment, being considered an emotionally disturbed person.

    Much like the mysterious chap who blew up outside the Christian organisations offices in Canberra then?

    Didnt realize the bloke has died.
    Also a little detail which contradicts what was being put about at the time, that it was purely a random attempt at suicide.

    A GAY rights supporter accused of causing an explosion outside the Australian Christian Lobby in Canberra has been found dead.

    Jaden Duong, 36, was found dead on Sunday afternoon.

    ACT Policing have released a statement saying, “About 4.30pm yesterday (24 September 2017) ACT Policing attended the death of 36-year-old male.
    ….
    Police facts tendered in court allege Duong told police afterwards that it was a suicide attempt but he would have been happy if the ACL building had been destroyed in the process because he disliked the organisation.

    The facts also alleged that in the weeks leading up to the fire Duong had Googled search items which included, “how much gas to cause explosion,” and “countries with same sex marriage” and “Australian Christian Lobby”.

    In the days after the fire ACT Policing Commander Mark Walters said at a media conference that the fire was not believed to be, “politically, religiously or ideologically motivated.”

  144. Geriatric Mayfly

    On the drawing board Beauvais Cathedral was to take Gothic architecture to new heights. Literally. The soaring walls that all would envy, were supported by ever less robust flying buttresses as the altitude increased. A partial collapse came in 1284 on Ascension Thursday! and another in 1573. The edifice remains a challenge to modern engineers trying to stabilise structural movement. So far only ugly and intrusive solutions.

  145. Stimpson J. Cat

    Looks like an Ikea Church

    Ikea don’t do Churches.
    Only Mosques.

  146. Ellie

    Well I’m still laughing

    Me too. Who takes this shite seriously?

  147. On April 3, Tasmania’s Catholic Church confirmed Father Rynne had finished as administrator of the Meander Valley parish and other associated roles following an investigation by the Church after tensions arose within the parish.

    A 76-year-old woman and a 75-year-old man, both from Elizabeth Town, and 38-year-old Dunloran man will be charged with common assault via summons and will appear at the Launceston Magistrates Court at a later date.

    FYI for the Cathollaxy readers.

  148. Knuckle Dragger

    BS pretending to be male during a presser in Darwin this morning – was asked a question about the latest billion dollars in indigenous welfare. Passing the question off to one of the future Stavka members of Abstralia, Pat Dodson, he said:

    ‘I might let Pat have a run on the ball with that one’

    Stop it, Bill. Just stop it. You’re not fooling anyone.

  149. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Gucci Notre Dame.
    Has a nice ring to it.

    Gucci Gang!

  150. Stimpson J. Cat

    Me too. Who takes this shite seriously?

    That’s the spirit.
    Women just need to spend more time looking for their sense of humor, and less time looking in the mirror.
    It would solve some many of the world’s problems.

  151. Infidel Tiger

    The LA Cathedral (Our Lady of Angels) is how you do modernism.

    I don’t like the exterior from all angles but the interior is gorgeous.

    Hell no.

  152. Roger

    The push will be to ‘re-imagine’ Notre Dame as a ‘monument’ to ‘all faiths.’ The spire will almost certainly be a faintly disguised minaret. There will also be enemies within: namely liturgical Maoists who will object to any remnant of a Tridentine altar or altar rails.

    A retired French army general has reportedly been appointed to head the restoration effort under the auspices of the Culture ministry.

  153. Zatara

    Nigel Farage’s new Brexit Party surges to top of European elections poll as Ukip loses support

    The party claimed 27 percent of respondents’ support, followed by Labour on 22 percent and Prime Minister Theresa May’s Conservatives in third place on 15 percent.

    Wow. Didn’t see that coming.

  154. C.L.

    Our Lady of Angels in Mallorca is far superior.

  155. Mother Lode

    A retired French army general has reportedly been appointed to head the restoration effort under the auspices of the Culture ministry.

    So it will have lots of white flags and the exits will have little signs above them that say “Retraite”.

  156. notafan

    Why would anyone in their right mind marry a Western Woman when you can marry an Ethnic Women with manners, class, who knows how to cook and clean, when to be quiet and when to speak, and who is capable of feeling empathy?

    And then divorce you and change teams?

  157. Knuckle Dragger

    Retired.

    French.

    General.

    None of those words used in conjunction with another inspires any sort of confidence.

  158. notafan

    Darling daughter number two is getting married soon.

    Darling daughter number one will be celebrating second anniversary around the same time.

    Neither is sjw but not perfect either, unlike you whinging blokes.

  159. Tintarella di Luna

    I have met Tony Abbott on several occasions and I am a fan: I think Greg Sheridan has written a very good piece today in the Oz

    Australia will be the poorer if Abbott is defeated
    It is important for Australia, for the health of our political culture, that Tony Abbott wins re-election as the member for Warringah. If he loses it will be an ugly triumph for the worst, most vituperative, spiteful and intolerant tendency to character assassination, which is presently disfiguring Australian public debate.

    The matter is entirely up to the electors of Warringah. Abbott has been a very good local member, securing funding for the Big Bear Cottage, a hospice for children, as well as the Royal Far West children’s health scheme and countless local good works from upgrades to Brookvale Oval to Manly Surf Life Savers. Perhaps his greatest local contribution, of which any conservationist would be deeply proud, is the Sydney Harbour Federation Trust, which ensures that the magnificent defence land of the headlands is preserved as natural parkland and heritage buildings.

    He has also thrown himself into good works in his electorate, with decades in the volunteer fire brigade and surf lifesavers’ club, and raising money for women’s shelters. Like his annual stint volunteering as a teacher’s aide in a remote Aboriginal community, there is nothing flashy or showy in all this. It is authentic and springs from a sentiment of human ­solidarity.

    Given Abbott’s national profile, this side of his political life is overlooked. But because he is moderately conservative and was successful in the 2013 election — which he won in a landslide — he has been subject to a grotesque hate campaign.

    No one who knows Abbott can reconcile the hateful and ludicrous image with reality. Recently on the ABC’s The Drum, a panellist from GetUp said of Abbott: “His existence altogether is I’ll say offensive.” This is, on any measure, a personalised, insulting and degrading attack designed to demonise a political opponent.

    I don’t draw attention to it to excite another round in the culture war but just to highlight the ­astonishing double standard of the rhetorical violence with which everyone on the Left treats ­Abbott. Just imagine the outrage, the core meltdown, that would greet, say, someone from the Australian Christian Lobby saying of Bill Shorten or Tanya Plibersek that they found their existence ­offensive.

    Much worse was the ABC’s Andrew Probyn, describing Abbott in a news segment — yes, a news segment — as “the most destructive politician of his generation”. This is deeply dishonest, unprofes­sional and a disgrace to the ABC. But still it has an effect. Even if many viewers recognise its unreasonableness, others will think, well, this is a news report, it must be basically true.

    Think, though, how utterly unfair and unreasonable it is. It has the air of a soft version of Soviet propaganda. There is the ABC, taking the money of all taxpayers but warmly engaging in a campaign of denigration against one mainstream politician because he disagrees with its pieties. Nothing is uglier in modern Australia than the way we periodically designate a public villain and everyone is ­invited to join in the kicking.

    Abbott is accused of having trafficked too much in slogans. But his two most powerful slogans had clear meaning, great effect and won wide support. One was that he would “stop the boats”. In the 2013 election Kevin Rudd said this couldn’t be done and if Abbott tried to do it he would cause military hostilities with Indonesia. By the way, this is surely the most irresponsible security statement by any recent PM. But it didn’t excite any outrage anywhere on the ABC because it conformed with the ABC’s doctrinal pieties.

    Yet, against expectations, Abbott did stop the boats. This prevented countless drownings at sea. It stopped the unregulated flow of tens of thousands of self-selecting people arriving in northern Australia. As a result, Australia controls its borders. And we run, on a per capita basis, one of the most generous refugee programs in the world. We also have, on a per capita basis, one of the biggest immigration programs. John Howard has said he didn’t think anyone but Abbott could have stopped the boats. It required great courage and resolve.

    Now, you may not like this policy, but just because it is a policy the ABC doesn’t like does not mean it is “destructive”. And of course Labor has adopted the very same policy.

    Similarly, Abbott labelled Labor’s carbon tax “a great big new tax on everything”. This was accurate and effective. He won a landslide victory partly as a result. Labor abandoned the carbon tax policy. The ABC has no right to decide that a politician who campaigns for a policy it disagrees with and then wins support is uniquely destructive. Nor does it have the right to routinely indulge in insult and propaganda against Abbott just because it doesn’t agree with his politics.

    Malcolm Turnbull’s biggest strategic mistake in government was not to bring Abbott back into the cabinet. It would have united the Liberal Party and brought one of the most effective Coalition politicians into the frontline of the political contest.

    But Turnbull’s decision also had a consequence for Abbott. It meant that there was no serious project in which Abbott could engage the talents, and the standing of a former prime minister, in an obvious nation-building context.

    This made it easier for those who would demonise Abbott.

    This is not a remotely anti-Labor column. In the areas I’m most concerned with, foreign affairs and national security, Bill Shorten and his team are reasonable and credible. They are meant to oppose Coalition politicians.

    But I believe it would be profoundly damaging to our political culture if the activist Left, with the support of the ABC and some of the old Fairfax papers, can demonise one conservative after another and run them out of public life.

    Every serious charge against Abbott disappears with scrutiny. The activist Left tries to demonise him for abstaining on the parliamentary vote after same-sex marriage was passed in the plebiscite. But Abbott’s conduct here was exemplary. He brought the plebiscite about and he was honest and open about his views during the campaign, unlike his conservative cabinet colleagues who were too scared to give public expression to their views. He also promised to respect the plebiscite result and do nothing to frustrate it. Abstaining was perfectly honourable.

    One of the greatest thinkers in our political tradition, Edmund Burke, famously told the electors of Bristol that he owed them his best judgment rather than his slavish obedience.

    Abbott is a fine parliamentarian in the Burkean tradition. He is an utterly decent human being. We will be much the poorer if we lose him from parliament.

    GREG SHERIDAN FOREIGN EDITOR

  160. notafan

    CL Parramatta cathedral is beyond aweful.

    I’ve seen nicer mechanics workshops.

    How could they?

  161. feelthebern

    Parramatta cathedral is a masterpiece of modern Australian architecture.

  162. Arky

    Darling daughter number two is getting married soon.

    ..
    Who is the victim?

  163. Infidel Tiger

    CL Parramatta cathedral is beyond aweful.

    I’ve seen nicer mechanics workshops.

    How could they?

    Architects.
    Hairy toed women on the rebuild committee.

  164. Johno

    Saturday is World Marijuana Day.

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    And then divorce you and change teams?

    Of course not.
    She married a much younger Frenchman with more hair and more sanity, and while the French are a bit Gay that does not make her a lesbian.
    She just can’t let go of her colonial yearnings.
    It’s very common.
    😂

  166. Roger

    Parramatta cathedral is a masterpiece of modern Australian architecture.

    So impressive I’d forgotten I’d visited it a couple of years ago.

  167. Viva

    I note a recent upsurge in disgruntled comments about the monstrous regiment of women by Cat blokedom

    All I can say is my husband was always able to distinguish between what he calls ” cuties” and “non cuties” and now even I under his tutelage can randomly pick the difference on sight. Use Judith Durham of the Seekers as a reference point and you won’t go far wrong lol.

  168. Infidel Tiger

    Parramatta cathedral is a masterpiece of modern Australian architecture.

    Hahaha! Very true.

  169. Stimpson J. Cat

    He’s a very nice kid and I give him helpful advice all the time.
    It’s bad enough she drove one good man into madness and male pattern baldness, I refuse to go let it happen again.
    Never again!

  170. feelthebern

    Hopefully Notre Dame will have a sacristy made of glass.

  171. calli

    Here is the buttock-ugly interior of St Patrick’s cathedral in Parramatta following its restoration after the 1996 fire (started by an arsonist).

    No one’s bottom is that ugly.

  172. Ellie

    unlike you whinging blokes.

    They appear to whinge a hell of a lot more than women, nota.

    The Cat open forum is a great social experiment.

    Sinc is much more than an economist.

  173. notafan

    I’m not telling you Arky

    Lovely young man with a strong faith.

    He proposed after they had dating for two months and they are having a nuptial mass, it is the real deal.

    I’m very, very happy for them both.

  174. calli

    Sheesh! Some of you guys chose poorly. And you still haven’t got over it.

  175. feelthebern

    He proposed after they had dating for two months and they are having a nuptial mass, it is the real deal.

    Best wishes, but he just sounds like a horn-dog.

  176. notafan

    Oh yes Elle the Catallaxy whinging never stops

  177. Stimpson J. Cat

    He proposed after they had dating for two months and they are having a nuptial mass, it is the real deal.

    Don’t worry about the nuptial mass, worry about the prenuptial agreement.
    Trust me on this.
    People can change, much like my hairline.

  178. calli

    He proposed after they had dating for two months

    Gosh, the Beloved did that. I knocked him back twice, third time lucky. 😀

  179. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sheesh! Some of you guys chose poorly. And you still haven’t got over it.

    What are you talking about?
    It was the best decision of my life to get married.
    And the second best decision of life was to get divorced.
    I’m two from two.
    #Winning !

  180. Knuckle Dragger

    Not whinging, ladies. Just stating a preference of not having to stick with one. All day. Every goddamned day.

    But they’re like picnic cutlery. Invaluable for a few hours and then, its purpose served, it goes in the bin. Sorry, gets recycled.

    I love the dear things. Trying so hard. Like little engines that almost could.

  181. notafan

    but he just sounds like a horn-dog.

    What is that supposed to mean?

    my dad proposed to my mum after just three weeks, he was in his thirties and she was a fair bit younger

    Some people know how to do it the right way (not me btw) and also when it is really the right person.

  182. zyconoclast

    Democratic 2020 candidate Pete Buttigieg announces that he and his husband are planning to have a child soon.

    ..
    To eat?

    The child should be so lucky that is all they plan to do with it.

  183. calli

    “Some”, Stimpson.

    It’s a clue.

  184. max

    FM. What a travesty is the interior of that church in Paramatta, going by the photo.

  185. bespoke

    nuptial mass

    Before my imagination gets the better of me, what’s that about?

  186. Mother Lode

    I was riding the bus to work yesterday along Military Road and saw some people in Cremorne wearing Tony Abbott shirts. Young folk, clean cut, and my connoisseur’s eye instantly perceived that the two women were both a very welcome sight on a morning before hitting the office.

    Further up, just after the road splits before the freeway, there were about five people (two wearing tyrannosaur costumes) holding signs reading stuff like Abbott is a dinosaur, his ideas should be extinct etc.

    The three homo sapiens were past retirement age. Maybe they are with Steggles. Maybe Labor (BIRM). Maybe just escapees from from a nursing home. But somehow, I don’t get the impression these were people with new ideas. I suspect them to be more of the socialist rubbish that has failed every single time.

    There is nothing wrong with an old idea if it works. An old idea that that likes to pose as to be new and doesn’t work (like socialism) on the other hand.

  187. notafan

    Why don’t you just buy a plastic doll KD?

    would serve the same purpose and be a lot cheaper in the long run

  188. Stimpson J. Cat

    “Some”

    Why can’t Women just say what they mean to who they mean instead of the elaborate dancing around their handbags in the middle of the Catallaxy dance floor?
    Honestly.

  189. notafan

    You are on the internet bespoke, look it up

  190. Infidel Tiger

    If Australian women are so messed up, the we need blame the fathers.

  191. feelthebern

    Pre-nups should be mandatory.

  192. notafan

    I’ve seen the dinosaur ad on Facebook Mother Lode

    is that the best they can do?

  193. calli

    The sewing circle is not impressed.

    Try again.

  194. notafan

    You are right ftb

    my daughter owns her own home and makes twice as much money

  195. Mother Lode

    Oh, I was going to say, looking at the effort stupid people are making to get rid of Abbott is a ringing endorsement of him.

    He clearly threatens people.

    Their febrile attempts to portray him as a silly duffer makes him instead look like a lion.

  196. Knuckle Dragger

    I proposed to the future ex Mrs KD while we were both shitfaced and on holidays in Noosa. After three months. Got 12 years out of it, which isn’t groundbreaking but loads better than any Kardashian.

    Just my own position, girls. Not demanding anyone conform to it.

    Nota,

    Seriously – all the best to your daughter and her bloke. It’s a big step, and good luck to them.

  197. notafan

    If Australian women are so messed up, the we need blame the fathers.

    Exactly what I was thinking

  198. feelthebern

    Ensure she does notafan.
    NSW pre-nup laws have almost caught up with the real world.

  199. bespoke

    notafan
    #2991082, posted on April 18, 2019 at 1:14 pm
    You are on the internet bespoke, look it up

    Exactly, I’m too scared. Looking trusted and shot explanation. 😉

  200. Knuckle Dragger

    A plastic doll Nota? Why would I….. oh, I gotcha.

    Because – such a device has yet to be proven able to make me a sammich, or to turn on Fox Cricket from the lounge room floor using the remote.

    Or to unwittingly introduce me to its slightly younger, hotter friends.

  201. notafan

    Thank you KD

    I think doing the ‘right way’ makes a bit difference in the long run.

    Marriage success was taken for granted back in the day when the majority had genuine respect for their vows.

  202. bespoke

    my daughter owns her own home and makes twice as much money

    And a credit to you nota.

  203. notafan

    But they’re like picnic cutlery. Invaluable for a few hours and then, its purpose served, it goes in the bin. Sorry, gets recycled.

    A sandwich and the telly put on, you get a lot done in a few hours.

  204. Stimpson J. Cat

    If Australian women are so messed up, the we need blame the fathers.

    I disagree.
    Most of the fathers were divorced by the Mothers, so they simply aren’t there.

    Can someone pull up the stats please on which sex predominantly initiates divorce proceedings in Australia, and which sex gains custody of the kids?

    Thanks in advance.

  205. notafan

    I have had mixed results bespoke.

    And there was some financial assistance provided.

  206. thefrollickingmole

    nuptial mass

    Before my imagination gets the better of me, what’s that about?

    Heres the sordid truth*
    They all drop their communion wafers in the bowl and you pray with whomevers wafer you pull out.
    Pretty hard core stuff, popular back in the 70s.

    *May contain traces of outright fibbing and crap I pulled out my ass.

  207. Ellie

    If Australian women are so messed up, the we need blame the fathers.

    My father is in his late 70s now. While I have a couple of nice memories … and truly nice memories. Overall, he is a cnut of a human being – a violent alcoholic who can rot in hell.

  208. Stimpson J. Cat

    my daughter owns her own home and makes twice as much money

    Like I said, you must insist on a prenupt.

    I know it is hard to believe, but not all Men are as chivalrous and heroic as myself.

  209. Mother Lode

    is that the best they can do?

    Hope so.

    ‘Malign and inept’ is less dangerous to us all than ‘malign and competent’.

  210. To the R*bz declaration (Shut.It.Down Fire.Them.All), I would like to add the TomTom:

    Leftards lie about everything. All the time.

    My own version that has served well is;

    Anything said by the left is a lie until empirically proven to be true.

  211. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Marriage success was taken for granted back in the day when the majority had genuine respect for their vows’

    +1

    That sentence could not possibly be more correct.

  212. Stimpson J. Cat

    Make sure you do it Notafan.

    Better to be the Bitch now than have to be the Bank later.

  213. notafan

    okay stimpson

    who made it easy to get a divorce in the first place?

  214. Marriage success was taken for granted back in the day when the majority had genuine respect for their vows.

    You sort of get it.

    Sort of.

    Can someone pull up the stats please on which sex predominantly initiates divorce proceedings in Australia, and which sex gains custody of the kids?

    Someone please play that Curb Your Enthusiasm meme.

  215. Ellie

    If Australian women are so messed up, the we need blame the fathers.

    My father is in his late 70s now. While I have a couple of nice memories … and truly nice memories; overall, he wasn’t a nice human being to his children – a violent alcoholic who can rot in hell.

  216. Top Ender

    Had a conversation with a SJW yesterday and managed to lead it around to whether Hitler was a socialist.

    He agreed!

    But there was no cognitive dissonance between the two ideas.

    No instant rejection of socialism.

    Hitler apparently just had a few nasty habits, but his central premises were all OK.

  217. Ellie

    Oops. Double post because the first went into moderation. Sorry for the naughty word, Sinc. 😕

  218. notafan

    No

    It is going to a proper marriage like they had back in the day with babies and stuff

    not about stupid money and dueling ‘careers’

    If you think the only thing that matters in a marriage is who paid for what you are already in trouble

    My father worked full time and my mother stayed at home

    He always said she was the one with the difficult job

    God bless him

  219. Overburdened

    KD

    No need to by a plastic one.

    Live ones work cheaply and you don’t have to listen to their shit.

  220. Stimpson J. Cat

    who made it easy to get a divorce in the first place?

    Bloody Christians I bet.

  221. Knuckle Dragger

    TE,

    Agree – young Adolf was just a bit misunderstood. A vegetarian, too.

  222. zyconoclast

    Sajid Javid called for a two-pronged approach, involving limiting the opportunities for crime and reforming the lives of would-be criminals to ensure ‘nobody gets left behind’.

    That would the plan I posted last night about the UK plan to reduce the punishment of criminals with low IQ.

  223. Overburdened

    I sincerely hope macron modernises the concept of stained glass by having a laser etched depiction of a lezzo being turkey basted to represent the immaculate conception.

  224. Knuckle Dragger

    OB,

    IKR? Details upthread.

  225. thefrollickingmole

    Ellie

    Cant pick your parents.
    Men have the advantage in the strength/violence stakes, women have a much larger advantage (now) with the courts/police/etc system to inflict the violence for them.

    It does come down to “be careful you dont marry a shithead”.
    In my grandmothers case she ended up married to a violent drunk because she was silly enough to have a kid out of wedlock to a bloke who scarpered.
    No government support so she took what she could get.

  226. Overburdened

    KD

    That should be ‘buy’.

    More accurately, ‘hire’

  227. No takers on debunking the ABC re Fraser Anning?

    Well I tried to not talk about economics.

    At least I tried.

  228. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Arky, #2990990, posted on April 18, 2019 at 12:02 pm

    The only important thing you can do in life is leave behind functional descendants.

    Yeah, that Isaac Newton, what a loser!
    And obviously Kylie Minogue, Katherine Hepburn, George R.R. Martin, Sid Vicious, and Dolly Parton never made any “important” contributions to humanity.
    Edwin Hubble and Copernicus, no “important” output from them either, apparently.
    It’s also why we never quote any wisdom from H.L. Mencken, John Locke, Immanuel Kant, Nietzsche, George Washington, or freakin’ Plato.
    Nikola Tesla, Howard Hughes, and Leonardo da Vinci completely wasted their life according to Arky.
    And don’t even get him started on that Jesus guy!

  229. Overburdened

    It is worth remembering that sociologists are prone to remind us that ‘TIL death is do part’ was popular when the average life span was 40 give or take.

  230. Overburdened

    Colonel

    You obviously missed the insights of the wizard that led to such enlightenment.

  231. calli

    I am absolutely certain I’m the luckiest person alive.

    As Carpe would say, “Livin’ the dream”.

  232. calli

    the average life span was 40 give or take.

    They don’t age well.

    Failing eyesight can be a blessing.

  233. notafan

    And obviously Kylie Minogue, Katherine Hepburn, George R.R. Martin, Sid Vicious, and Dolly Parton never made any “important” contributions to humanity.

    Really those are your picks for childless people making important contributions to humanity ?

    How about a Henry Newman, a Gregor Mendel or a Richard Newhaus?

  234. Mother Lode

    limiting the opportunities for crime

    What? Curfews? Impoverishing people so there was less property against which to commit crimes? Surely a good society is one where there is ample opportunity to commit crime – but people don’t.

    reforming the lives of would-be criminals

    They have not the slightest idea how to do this. They see it from the side of their processes, not the position of the miscreant to be reformed. The dripping reform-minded gulls see the key as an unending suite of recently formulated theories to entreat, plead, coax, wheedle, entice, flatter, and tug at the heart strings of criminals to be good. The subjects of their schemes, on the other hand, are far more practical and simply apply their talent of turning situations to their own advantage and game the system. And why not? What happens if they keep to their old ways? Well, more bribery is the only plan.

    Might be nice to focus a little on the victims too.

    Just a thought.

  235. Overburdened

    KD

    All this racy talk about plastic dolls moves me to poetry

    A clever young man from Glasheen

    Invented a xxxxxxxxxxx machine

    Both concave and convex

    To suit either sex

    But oh what a bxxxxxd to clean

    I suspect this was Wordsworth.

    For the lazy, one can always obtain a terrorist love doll that blows itself up.

  236. Stimpson J. Cat

    Kylie Minogue, Katherine Hepburn, George R.R. Martin

    Are you f$cking joking?
    He ha ha ha ja ja!!!

  237. Tintarella di Luna

    Congratulations notafan – great news and making vows before God and family and friends adds to the solemnity of making those vows. Good luck to the happy couple may they have lots of babies and contentment in their future life together.

  238. Leigh Lowe

    Is the question about child-less people contributing to humanity.
    I give you Pope John Paul II.

  239. bespoke

    calli
    #2991129, posted on April 18, 2019 at 1:42 pm
    I am absolutely certain I’m the luckiest person alive.

    Coming up to your 86th anniversary you would say that.

  240. notafan

    40 years til death do us part?

    I don’t think that is correct, live expectancy figures were skewed by high infant mortality raters weren’t they?

    One you got past that things then old age was not that uncommon.

    Most of my parents generation of relatives and friends lived or are living into their seventies and eighties and I can think of only one couple that has divorced, at his instigation btw.

    Ditto for the generation before them, with zero divorces.

  241. Knuckle Dragger

    Sid Vicious was a pimply, pasty skinny Pom who made up for his lack of talent by yelling louder than everyone else and saying ‘bollocks’ in public. He made a negative net contribution to humanity.

    Thankfully, he died before his time.

  242. notafan

    Congratulations notafan – great news and making vows before God and family and friends adds to the solemnity of making those vows. Good luck to the happy couple may they have lots of babies and contentment in their future life together.

    thank you Tinta

    That is their plan

    quite delightful

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