Open Forum: April 20, 2019

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  1. Arky

    No, he’s really not.

    ..
    He really is.

  2. Tom

    Leftard zombie relativism scales new heights:

    Indigenous affairs commentators have questioned why the fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris has sparked nationwide grief, but the potential destruction of sacred trees on home soil remains largely ignored.

    The Victorian government’s plan to bulldoze more than 260 Djap Wurrung trees to make way for a new road has outraged Aboriginal families around the country.

    The ancient flora, some of which are more than 800 years old, have overseen hundreds of generations of Aboriginal ancestry and form an intrinsic part of the Djap Wurrung people’s cultural identity.

    Of course, this jibberish is penned by a young female, fresh out of her SJW indoctrination at J-school.

    Sweetie, Rule 1 of journalism, if you don’t want to be laughed into the WPB, is don’t make shit up — like the words I have bolded.

  3. JC

    You read stuff like this and end up thinking it’s not possible. It’s not possible there’s this sort of evil and negligence in the world.

    CLAYTON, Mo. — A St. Louis teacher with HIV is accused of taking a student out of class and molesting him. Three years later, police said the teacher tried to hire a hit man to kill the child and his family.

    Wednesday, both the teacher and his accomplice made a rare court appearance.

    Deonte Taylor, 36, and his accomplice and boyfriend Michael Johnson, 66, were both in court Wednesday afternoon. They both pleaded not guilty to a multitude of charges.

    Police said while Taylor was working as a teachers aide at Lusher Elementary in 2015, he molested a 7-year-old student.

    Charges weren’t filed and Taylor went on to get other teaching jobs. He finally landed in the Ferguson-Florissant School District at Walnut Grove Elementary school, where he taught fifth grade.

  4. OldOzzie

    Traveller letters: Airbnb hack could save you hundreds of dollars

    CLEARING THE AIR

    As Daniel Nolan mentioned (Traveller letters, March 23), rather than going to airbnb.com.au always search for the name of the Airbnb property elsewhere to avoid paying the hefty fee it charges. Airbnb does not even scale down its commission.

    If you are staying in an expensive property, say $5000 over a week or so, you are paying about $900 to Airbnb. I think it’s disgusting it takes so much. No other site, such as homeaway or booking.com, charges as much as it does.

    Also try searching through the photos for a direct contact number, too – generally means the owner is happy to deal direct.

  5. C.L.

    New …
    This is real: latest SJW thing is that dogs are white supremacists.

  6. areff

    dogs are white supremacists.

    No, they’re conservatives: they like everything to remain as it was yesterday and start barking if it changes.

  7. C.L.

    So-called “trolls” want everything to be about them and to disrupt intelligent discussion.
    Numbers comes here every day and wins; he beats the living shit out of all of you.
    You’re his bitches and you have the mental discipline of five year-olds.

  8. OldOzzie

    A Massacre of Christians

    Terror bombings kill hundreds on Easter Sunday in Sri Lanka.

    By The WSJ Editorial Board

    The Easter Sunday slaughter of Christians in Sri Lanka is a jolting reminder that killers motivated by religious animus continue to be a threat to innocents around the world. Large-scale terror attacks outside the Middle East have been fewer in recent months, but that is due more to the West’s efforts at pre-emption than to any lack of murderous intent.

    The explosions hit three churches and hotels known for foreign visitors in or near the capital of Colombo. At this writing at least 207 had been killed and several hundred injured. At least 27 foreigners were among the dead, including “several” Americans, according to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

    World leaders are denouncing the attack on “humanity,” but make no mistake: This was an attack on Christians. The killers didn’t pick any random Sunday. The bombs went off at places of worship during services on the holiest day of the Christian calendar. The killers may have taken their bloody cues from the attack on Coptic Christians in Egypt on Palm Sunday in 2017. Police were on watch for a reason outside the church we attended this Easter Sunday morning in New York City, just as they’re often outside synagogues after a terrorist event.

    Sri Lankan authorities have arrested several people in the attacks but hadn’t identified them by Sunday evening. Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe said information about a possible attack had been circulating but hadn’t reached the cabinet. Sri Lanka has a terrible history with terrorism from its civil war, but less so in recent years. Christians (7.4%) and Muslims (10%) are minorities in the majority Buddhist nation.

    There is a natural tendency toward complacency in human affairs after a period without a major terror attack, until we get a reminder like Sunday’s in Sri Lanka of the costs of inattention. The threat will be with us for many decades and demands constant watch.

  9. Roger

    Indigenous affairs commentators have questioned why the fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris has sparked nationwide grief, but the potential destruction of sacred trees on home soil remains largely ignored.

    Just a wild guess…most Australians don’t believe in “sacred trees”?

  10. Arky

    Numbers comes here every day and wins; he beats the living shit out of all of you.

    ..
    Rubbish.

  11. OldOzzie

    A Massacre of Christians

    Terror bombings kill hundreds on Easter Sunday in Sri Lanka.

    By The WSJ Editorial Board

    The Easter Sunday slaughter of Christians in Sri Lanka is a jolting reminder that killers motivated by religious animus continue to be a threat to innocents around the world. Large-scale terror attacks outside the Middle East have been fewer in recent months, but that is due more to the West’s efforts at pre-emption than to any lack of murderous intent.

    The explosions hit three churches and hotels known for foreign visitors in or near the capital of Colombo. At this writing at least 207 had been killed and several hundred injured. At least 27 foreigners were among the dead, including “several” Americans, according to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

    World leaders are denouncing the attack on “humanity,” but make no mistake: This was an attack on Christians. The killers didn’t pick any random Sunday. The bombs went off at places of worship during services on the holiest day of the Christian calendar. The killers may have taken their bloody cues from the attack on Coptic Christians in Egypt on Palm Sunday in 2017. Police were on watch for a reason outside the church we attended this Easter Sunday morning in New York City, just as they’re often outside syn#gogues after a terrorist event.

    Sri Lankan authorities have arrested several people in the attacks but hadn’t identified them by Sunday evening. Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe said information about a possible attack had been circulating but hadn’t reached the cabinet. Sri Lanka has a terrible history with terrorism from its civil war, but less so in recent years. Christians (7.4%) and Mu slims (10%) are minorities in the majority Buddhist nation.

    There is a natural tendency toward complacency in human affairs after a period without a major terror attack, until we get a reminder like Sunday’s in Sri Lanka of the costs of inattention. The threat will be with us for many decades and demands constant watch.

  12. C.L.

    I assume that Deonte Taylor is – in addition to being a homosexual – a black man.
    Because that’s a typically stupid African-American first name.
    His continued success in getting teaching jobs despite being a known molester also suggests that he was an untouchable creature of affirmative action.

  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Indigenous affairs commentators have questioned why the fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris has sparked nationwide grief, but the potential destruction of sacred trees on home soil remains largely ignored.

    I’m chuckling over the sign “No trees, no treaty.” Fine by me..

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Labor promises uncapped long-stay parents visa at a quarter of the cost
    Families won’t be forced to choose between which parents or in-laws they could reunite with under Labor’s new parent visa policy.

    Ben Packham
    Political Reporter
    4 minutes ago April 22, 2019
    No Comments

    Labor will today unveil a big pitch for the migrant vote in key marginal seats, promising a new uncapped long-stay parents visa that would be a quarter the cost of the Coalition’s proposed visa.

    The opposition has been campaigning hard in NSW seats like Reid, Banks and Bennelong, and Chisholm in Victoria — all of which are Liberal-held and have high proportions of overseas-born voters — over the government’s slowness in delivering a new sponsored parents visa.

    The Coalition had promised the long-stay visa for migrants’ parents prior to the last election but the visa is not due to be delivered until July 1.

    Labor will today seek to gazump the policy, announcing an uncapped scheme, which will not restrict the number of parents each family can sponsor, at a cost of $2500 for a five year visa.

    The Coalition’s scheme is capped at 15,000 places, is limited to one set of parents per household, and costs $10,000 for a five year visa.

    From the Oz.

  15. thefrollickingmole

    dogs are white supremacists.

    Proof

  16. OldOzzie

    COMPARE DI NATALE’S SRI LANKA TWEET WITH HIS CHRISTCHURCH ONE

    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun

    Compare the tweet that Greens leader Richard Di Natale sent in response to the bombings today of Christian churches in Sri Lanka with the one he sent after the slaughter at a Christchurch mosque. The missing word becomes even more glaringly obvious.

    Today:

    Deeply saddened by the attacks in Sri Lanka and the targeting of people gathering in peace.

    The @greens grieve in solidarity with the people of Sri Lanka and Sri Lankan members of the Australian community for those who have lost their lives and been injured.
    — Richard Di Natale (@RichardDiNatale) April 21, 2019

    Last month:

    The news unfolding in Christchurch is tragic and deeply saddening.

    Our thoughts are with all of those affected.

    We stand with the Muslim community, here and around the world.
    — Richard Di Natale (@RichardDiNatale) March 15, 2019

    Muslim targets are Muslims. Christian targets are “people”.

    Why?

    Silly question. I may try to answer that on the next Bolt Report on Sky.

    (Thanks to reader Lachie of SA.)

  17. OldOzzie

    COMPARE DI NATALE’S SRI LANKA TWEET WITH HIS CHRISTC#URCH ONE

    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun

    Compare the tweet that Greens leader Richard Di Natale sent in response to the bombings today of Christian churches in Sri Lanka with the one he sent after the slaughter at a Christc#urch mosque. The missing word becomes even more glaringly obvious.

    Today:

    Deeply saddened by the attacks in Sri Lanka and the targeting of people gathering in peace.

    The @greens grieve in solidarity with the people of Sri Lanka and Sri Lankan members of the Australian community for those who have lost their lives and been injured.
    — Richard Di Natale (@RichardDiNatale) April 21, 2019

    Last month:

    The news unfolding in Christc#urch is tragic and deeply saddening.

    Our thoughts are with all of those affected.

    We stand with the Mus lim community, here and around the world.
    — Richard Di Natale (@RichardDiNatale) March 15, 2019

    Mus lim targets are Mus lims. Christian targets are “people”.

    Why?

    Silly question. I may try to answer that on the next Bolt Report on Sky.

    (Thanks to reader Lachie of SA.)

  18. stackja

    Foreign Secretary’s Easter Sunday op-ed on Christian persecution
    In an op-ed published in the Mail on Sunday, Jeremy Hunt writes that the UK stands in solidarity with persecuted Christians around the world.

    When I first read God’s Smuggler, it was barely possible to hope that the Iron Curtain would one day fall. So when the Berlin Wall dissolved before our eyes in 1989, it was a wonderful blow for freedom, allowing all the European countries that Brother Andrew had visited to win their liberty.

    Yet perhaps this good news has made us complacent about problems elsewhere. Exactly 30 years later, 245 million Christians are still at risk. The evidence suggests that far from easing, the burden of worldwide persecution is actually becoming heavier.

    So as we celebrate Easter today we must not be indifferent.

  19. Mater

    * Trump was deferred for service in Vietnam 5 times (which foot???) and has a weight problem.

    An astonishing lack of self awareness.

    1735099
    #622426, posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    I was 23 when I arrived in Vietnam, having been deferred for 2 years because I was at Uni.

    1735099
    #2965463, posted on March 21, 2019 at 8:33 am
    Beyond that, I believed I would fail the medical , as I had polio as an infant. I was passed A1.

  20. Geriatri Mayfly

    The ancient flora, some of which are more than 800 years old, have overseen hundreds of generations of Aboriginal ancestry and form an intrinsic part of the Djap Wurrung people’s cultural identity.

    It started with one ‘birthing tree’ and now encompasses a whole swathe of them. From one tree does a great forest grow. Wimmin and their reproductive powers again. Hindmarsh Island ring a bell?

  21. stackja

    Easter attacks on Christians are ‘particularly wicked’, says foreign secretary after Sri Lanka bombings

    Mr Hunt recently launched a review into the Foreign and Commonwealth Office’s support for persecuted Christians, which is expected to be published in the summer.

    He said the issue of religious persecution was important because it was normally an indicator of other human rights abuses.

    In his op-ed, he continued: “Should religious persecution matter in an increasingly secular world? The truth is that, if a regime tries to control what you believe, it will generally seek to control every other aspect of your life.

    “Where Christians are persecuted, other human rights are often brutally abused.”

    He went on to say that the UK government “must not allow misguided political correctness to inhibit our response” to the persecution of Christians.

    “Anxious not to offend minorities or appear ‘colonialist’ in troublespots around the world, British governments have occasionally taken refuge behind the principle that all religions must be protected,” said Mr Hunt.

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    * Trump was deferred for service in Vietnam 5 times (which foot???) and has a weight problem.

    Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal option to being conscripted, which he chose not to exercise.

  23. Geriatri Mayfly

    The ancient flora, some of which are more than 800 years old, have overseen hundreds of generations of Aboriginal ancestry and form an intrinsic part of the Djap Wurrung people’s cultural identity.

    Sin binned. Space bar to the rescue?

    It started with one ‘bir thing tree’ and now encompasses a whole swathe of them. From one tree does a great forest grow. W i mmin and their rep rod uctive powers again. Hind marsh Island ring a bell?

  24. stackja

    C.L.
    #2994351, posted on April 22, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Andrew Bolt: Did police poison the public against Cardinal George Pell?
    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun
    April 21, 2019 9:00pm
    Subscriber only

    Did police poison the public against Cardinal George Pell — including by leaking to the media details of a private phone call?

    Monsignor Charles Portelli was amazed last February to read on The New Daily website a story by Lucie Morris-Marr, who’d earlier broken the story that police were investigating Pell over alleged sexual abuse.

    The suspicion must be that the jury, like many Australians, had its opinion of Pell poisoned by decades of venomous media attacks, including false claims that he abused other children, offered hush money to a victim of paedophile priest Gerald Ridsdale, and sheltered other paedophiles.

    Sadly, Victoria Police helped to destroy his reputation. Graham Ashton, now chief commissioner, falsely told a parliamentary inquiry that the Melbourne Catholic diocese under Pell had not referred any victims of paedophile priests to the police, and falsely claimed that victims compensated under a scheme set up by Pell had to sign confidentiality causes.

    Then, with Pell vilified, police set up an inquiry into sexual abuse by him without having had a single complaint. It instead advertised for accusers, and after years of publicity about the compensation the church was paying.

    As Britain found with the scandals at Bryn Eastyn, St Williams and Greystone Heath, there is no surer way to suggest false memories and get innocent men jailed.

    Sure enough, many Pell accusers did come forward, only to have their stories collapse in court — all except this one.

    So how did Pell’s private phone call become public gossip? Until there’s an innocent explanation, we must wonder if this is more evidence that Pell has powerful enemies determined to believe the worst of him, and to make others do so, too.

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Julia Banks bars former Liberal mentor after Twitter spat

    Alice Workman
    Political Reporter
    @workmanalice
    12:00AM April 22, 2019
    17 Comments

    The heat of the federal election campaign has claimed one of Julia Banks’s longest political friendships, with the newly branded independent blocking former colleague and mentor Liberal senator Jane Hume on social media after a late night spat.

    Senator Hume, who advised Ms Banks prior to her election in 2016, slammed her former colleague on Twitter as a “seat-­shopper” after a Saturday night tweet by Ms Banks about the ­beauty of the Mornington Peninsula, in the seat of Flinders, where she is challenging Health Minister Greg Hunt. “Surrounded by so much water, the Mornington Peninsula must have some of the best sunsets in the world!” she tweeted. “I love where I live.”

    Senator Hume replied: “For heaven’s sake, you live in the electorate of Higgins. You’ve always lived in Higgins. Even for the three years you were the member for Chisholm, you lived in Higgins. More of your rubbish.”

    From the Oz. Seems Julia Banks can’t even remember where she lives, FFS.

  26. Leigh Lowe

    Not normally a yuuuge fan of Tony Jones (who is filling in for Neil Mitchell on 3AW) but I dips me lid this morning.
    He interviewed a Sri Lankan from an organisation fighting the oppression of Christians.
    Of course, next week Tony will be back on the bench and Neil will be carefully vetting guests to ensure “communidy cohesion”.

  27. Farmer Gez

    C.L.
    #2994351, posted on April 22, 2019 at 8:36 am

    We learn this morning from Andrew Bolt that corrupt Victoria Police led by its perjurer commissioner illegally leaked a (false) version of a bugged phone call between George Pell and a friend (a senior priest who was also a key, exonerating witness) to Fairfax. They were caught out because the dumb broad at Fairfax reported the conversation between a ‘tearful’ Pell (apologising to the witness) occurred at a dinner on the night prior to the day of the verdict. In fact, the priest couldn’t make that dinner and wasn’t there. He had spoken to the cardinal in a phone call that night, however.

    This is just astonishing and infuriating.

    Pell doesn’t need to be innocent for these investigative tactics to be a scandal.

  28. Geriatri Mayfly

    The ancient flora, some of which are more than 800 years old, have overseen hundreds of generations of Abo rig inal ancestry and form an intrinsic part of the D jap W urrung people’s cultural identity.

    Sin binned again. C’mon space bar.

    It started with one ‘bir th ing tree’ and now encompasses a whole swathe of them. From one tree does a great forest grow. Wim m in and their rep rodu ctive powers again. Hin dmar sh Island ring a bell?

  29. Mark A

    C.L.
    #2994423, posted on April 22, 2019 at 9:53 am

    Numbers is just a very poor troll.

    No, he’s really not.
    He’s been beating the shit out of all of you for years.

    Did you mean boring, driving us to tears with his inanities?

  30. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Elle, thank you for your apology. I have just spotted it. Accepted, of course. I am no sort of hater.

    My daughter used to have physical things she called ‘her feelings’ when she was about eleven, which she would bleat about if they were ‘hurt’. When necessary, we would kiss them better, but would not in general encourage ‘offense taking’ over trivia. Toughen those feelings up, we would say, and suggest sometimes how to respond to schoolyard hurters of feelings, or familial battles with us or siblings.

    I suspect when we grow up, our ‘feelings’ turn into more complex things like concern about our ‘reputation’, how others see us in the wider adult world in which we have to live, and a dislike of insults with unwarranted implications, or of constant niggling attacks which arouse the flight or fight response. ‘Feelings’ in adult life thus can shade into legal concepts such as slander and defamation.

    A bit of that sort of concern may explain some of my reaction as well. That, plus the internet also tends to ‘flame’ with words, lacking non-verbals as it does. But as I’ve said before somewhere, hey, it’s just an anonymous blog. But not letting people get away with too much on it is still important. I hit back. 🙂

  31. John64

    Not normally a yuuuge fan of Tony Jones

    The non-Snowcone variety; who should stick to presenting sport on the Nein News, which he is reasonably proficient at.

  32. Roger

    The threat will be with us for many decades and demands constant watch.

    So we should be vigilant but resign ourselves to life with this perpetual irritant?

  33. stackja

    FBI arrests Larry Hopkins, leader of armed US right-wing ‘patriots …
    https://www.scmp.com › News › World › United States & Canada
    New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas described Larry Hopkins, who also goes by the name of Striker, as a “dangerous felon who should not have …

    Hector Balderas – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Balderas
    Hector Hugo Balderas Jr. (born August 16, 1973) is an American lawyer and former prosecutor who has been the Attorney General of New Mexico since 2015.
    Political party‎: ‎Democratic

  34. feelthebern

    Everyone should lay of numbers.
    The AFR was last published on Thursday.
    That means he’s shown up here Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon, looking for Tom posting the Rowe cartoon & he’s been left wanting.
    Rowe cartoons are the only that allows numbers to climax.
    Considering he won’t get relief until tomorrow morning (Tues), he should be given the same kind of consideration that an alcoholic is given.

  35. Geriatri Mayfly

    Another happy holiday. Has Chicago fired up yet?

  36. Mater

    Considering he won’t get relief until tomorrow morning (Tues), he should be given the same kind of consideration that an alcoholic is given.

    TDS isn’t covered under his Gold Card, alcoholism is. Another reason for him to hate.

  37. Arky

    Made pancakes with blueberries, bacon and maple syrup for breakfast.
    Had to start up on the bacon again as the little girl is fussy.
    Sorry pigs.
    Now for a day of swearing at the Model A.
    See yiz.

  38. egg_

    Invisible Shorten gets brush from campaign flyers

    Alice Workman
    Political Reporter

    Bill Shorten has been airbrushed from campaign material in at least 27 federal seats, about half of them hotly contested marginals, as Labor works to counter the Opposition Leader’s poor personal rating among voters.

    Paving the way for Plibbers?

  39. egg_

    Alice Workmynses looks like she swallowed Magda.

  40. stackja

    5-year-old Michigan boy calls 911 to ask for McDonalds – AJC.com
    1 day ago – WYOMING, MICH. —. A 5-year-old Michigan boy had a craving for McDonald’s but his grandmother was sleeping so he called 911 and made a request.

    WZZM-TV in Grand Rapids reports Iziah Hall of Wyoming asked the dispatcher: “Can you bring me McDonald’s?” Dispatcher Sara Kuberski says she told him no but reached out to the police.

    Wyoming police officer Dan Patterson says the April 14 request made him laugh, so he stopped at McDonald’s on his way to check on Iziah’s home in the western Michigan city.Patterson says he thought, “I’m driving past McDonald’s on my way there and I might as well get him something.” The officer says the first thing the boy said to him was, “My grandma’s gonna be so mad, can you please go away?”

  41. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bob Brown’s mob of revolting protesters liken coal mines to gas chambers
    Renee Viellaris, Federal Political Editor, The Courier-Mail
    April 22, 2019 7:11am
    Subscriber only

    MILITANT anti-Adani activists supporting the Bob Brown-led convoy have compared Queensland coal miners to Nazis who exterminated millions of Joows in gas chambers during the Holocoust.

    The provocative comments, slammed by Australian Joowish leaders, come as protesters – who also labelled Queenslanders “red necks” – will today rally in Brisbane before marching to Adani’s city headquarters.

    Former Greens leader Bob Brown, environmental warrior Geoff Cousin and “school striker” Sara McKoy will address the activists at Queens Gardens.

    The Courier-Mail revealed last week residents in Clermont, which is the closest community to the Adani mine, will refuse to serve anti-Adani activists who will descend in their tiny town this Saturday and camp in their show grounds.

    In response, activists have made fun of their plight, describing it as “a town intent on going the same way of the dinosaurs”.

    A private Facebook group called the Stop Adani Convoy, which shows the Bob Brown Foundation logo, has posted a number of repugnant messages in response, targeting Queenslanders, coal miners and Clermont residents, and arguing miners could re-skill into hemp industries.

    One wrote, “all of us will be faced with this dilemma, a job or the future,” to which a user named Ringo Dingo responded, “There were jobs for locals in the gas chambers in Nazi Germany too. There is such things as a bad job”.

    Another chimed in, saying, “exactly”.

  42. Mater

    Bill Shorten has been airbrushed from campaign material in at least 27 federal seats, about half of them hotly contested marginals, as Labor works to counter the Opposition Leader’s poor personal rating among voters.

    Did they leave Chloe on?

  43. OldOzzie

    Andrew Bolt: Did police poison the public against Cardinal George Pell?

    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun

    Did police poison the public against Cardinal George Pell — including by leaking to the media details of a private phone call?

    Monsignor Charles Portelli was amazed last February to read on The New Daily website a story by Lucie Morris-Marr, who’d earlier broken the story that police were investigating Pell over alleged sexual abuse.

    This time, Morris-Marr had a scoop that to some readers may have implied Pell had a guilty conscience.

    She wrote that Pell tearily apologised to Portelli on the day a jury declared the cardinal guilty of sexually assaulting two choirboys in the sacristy right after Mass.

    Portelli had given evidence in Pell’s trial that as Master of Ceremonies, he accompanied Pell everywhere at Mass until he left the cathedral, so these assaults could not have occurred.

    That was not the only evidence that left many legal experts astonished by the jury verdict.

    The jury somehow believed Pell had assaulted the two teenagers in a normally busy room with the door open, and while dressed from neck to feet in heavy and belted cassock-like clothing. What’s more, one of the boys, now dead, told his mother he’d never been abused.

    Now Portelli read this on The New Daily: “A tearful Cardinal George Pell was comforted by a key witness in his child abuse trial on the night following his shock guilty verdict …

    “A source told The New Daily the cardinal had dinner at a friend’s house in Melbourne with Monsignor Charles Portelli … ‘Pell got quite emotional … and was actually apologising to Portelli for getting him into the mess of the court case and effectively being dismissed as a liar,’ the source said.”

    Portelli was surprised because he never made it to that dinner.

    What’s more, the conversation occurred three weeks earlier, and in a private phone call: “The cardinal rang me on his mobile and he rang my mobile.”

    Pell was not “tearful”, and had no guilty conscience, says Portelli, who firmly believes in Pell’s innocence.

    “He apologised to me because the prosecution tried to do to me what they had done to the witness before me. They had tried to bamboozle him.”

    Portelli told The New Daily its story was false. The publication said it stood by the story, yet pulled it from the website.

    But how did a private phone discussion find its way into a report by a Pell critic who’d never spoken to Pell or Portelli?

    One obvious possibility is that Pell’s phone was bugged.

    Neither Portelli nor I believe that could have been done by Morris-Marr, so I asked Victoria Police: Was it you?

    If so, should police be leaking details of private calls to the media, directly or indirectly?

    A police spokesman responded: “We do not provide comment on police methodology. This information has been passed on to the Victoria Police Professional Standards Command for further assessment.”

    Morris-Marr, for her part, denies that her source was a police officer, and says suggestions that Pell’s phone was bugged were “rather ridiculous”.

    They are? Not to Portelli.

    This goes to the wider issue of how Pell could be convicted “beyond reasonable doubt” of such an inherently implausible crime.

    The suspicion must be that the jury, like many Australians, had its opinion of Pell poisoned by decades of venomous media attacks, including false claims that he abused other children, offered hush money to a victim of p#edophile priest Gerald Ridsdale, and sheltered other p#edophiles.

    Sadly, Victoria Police helped to destroy his reputation. Graham Ashton, now chief commissioner, falsely told a parliamentary inquiry that the Melbourne Catholic diocese under Pell had not referred any victims of p#edophile priests to the police, and falsely claimed that victims compensated under a scheme set up by Pell had to sign confidentiality causes.

    Then, with Pell vilified, police set up an inquiry into sexual abuse by him without having had a single complaint. It instead advertised for accusers, and after years of publicity about the compensation the church was paying.

    As Britain found with the scandals at Bryn Eastyn, St Williams and Greystone Heath, there is no surer way to suggest false memories and get innocent men jailed.

    Sure enough, many Pell accusers did come forward, only to have their stories collapse in court — all except this one.

    So how did Pell’s private phone call become public gossip? Until there’s an innocent explanation, we must wonder if this is more evidence that Pell has powerful enemies determined to believe the worst of him, and to make others do so, too.

  44. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Areff, I meant to say how amused I was by that piece you linked on ‘the difference between men and women’. I was at the time having one of those little huffs people have when married, because he didn’t listen to something emotionally important that I said, and he thought I was going on about something he’d always regarded as not on his register of interest. Best to just sit through it till she gets over it, is Hairy’s usual response at such times, settling into some sport on TV. Why can’t he see what I mean and why my feelings are hurt? I continue to think. Why doesn’t he say something? It’s the silence that’s deafening.

    So I text a girlfriend about how I am feeling down, and she responds saying comfortingly that she doesn’t know how I cope etc etc. I feel better and Hairy gets hungry and says what’s for lunch? So together we make some eggs (using Motelier’s wonderful egg-poacher) and we watch Outsiders, and we start to chat about that, and suddenly we are friends again, and he does understand me, I know from his smile and the way his eyes crinkle when he smiles lovingly at me ‘cos we share so much, and I do love him so much, and, and, then I read your linked piece, and I realise men really are from Mars, every last one of them. 🙂

  45. egg_

    Greens leader Richard Di Natale says he’s already approached Bill Shorten about working together on energy policy if Labor wins the May 18 election.

    Au pairs on treadmills?

  46. Diogenes

    The Queensland government wants people to lose weight and it’s slapping a ban on junk food ads across its billboards, train stations and transport to make that happen.

    Foods will be ruled in or out based on their salt, sugar and fat content, state Health Minister Steven Miles said on Sunday.

    I suppose that will also rule out campaigns encouraging breast feeding. IIRC in the UK they had to put in a specific exemption.

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ninth bomb discovered in Sri Lanka.

  48. Tel

    Some people did something some time ago.

    Congratulations! You now qualify as Historian … please advance to any major Australian political party or journalism/propaganda outlet for your next mission.

  49. Ellie

    You hit back well, Lizzie. I deserved it. Stupid emotions have gotten the better of me here often. I’m sorry to Stimpy too. My victimhood mentality was in full swing. Tis been a challenging year.
    Moving forward. Oh crap! Triggered! Dam you Julia Gillard and your moving forward mantra!

    🙂

  50. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Someone with skills in Photoshop needs to get the Gillard-Brown wedding ceremony photo and change the heads to Shorten-diNatalie.

    Week-in-Pictures style.

  51. egg_

    daily on Catallaxy, we see “Shitten” substituted for “Shorten”

    Apparently, he hates the “Tits” nickname, but won’t drop the kilos – Karma.

  52. Arky

    I know from his smile and the way his eyes crinkle when he smiles lovingly at me
    ..

    Bleuuuuuuuuraghhbhhhh.
    Sorry, I
    Bleuuuuuuuuraghhbhhhh, Bleuuuuuuuuraghhbhhhh, oh God, hoooof, errrrg, Bleuuuuuuuuraghhbhhhh.

  53. OldOzzie

    IS THIS SHORTEN’S MOST CLUELESS POLICY?

    Andrew Bolt: Bill Shorten doesn’t know what his plan will cost the economy — or you

    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun


    Is there anything Bill Shorten actually understands about global warming and his dangerous plan to “stop” it?

    His ignorance about his hugely expensive plan to cut our global warming gases by 45 per cent by just 2030 is frightening.

    Here’s a list of things the Labor leader either doesn’t know or refuses to say.

    Shorten doesn’t know what his plan will cost the economy or you.

    In fact, he last week repeatedly dodged that basic question, and eventually suggested the answer didn’t matter: “If you don’t believe in the science of climate change, no amount of evidence will ever convince you because, fundamentally, it’s a stupid position not to take action.”

    Opposition Leader Bill Shorten’s ignorance about his hugely expensive plan to cut our global warming gases by 45 per cent by just 2030 is frightening.

    But unless we know the cost, how can we know whether Shorten’s pain is worth the gain?

    Here’s another thing Shorten doesn’t know: there is no climate “emergency” for him to stop.

    Last week, he savaged climate sceptics because we allegedly “never look at the cost of extreme weather events”.

    Wrong. In fact, Professor Roger Pielke Jr, the world’s most famous expert on damage from extreme weather events, points out that “weather/climate losses have decreased as proportion of global GDP”. We lose proportionately less stuff than ever to weather events.

    That’s another thing Shorten doesn’t know. In an interview last year, he disputed a clear fact I put to him: we’ve been getting fewer cyclones, in Australia and the world.

    Shorten also falsely believes global warming is drowning Pacific atoll islands: “Paradise is drowning,” he’s declared

    In fact, as Professor Paul Kench has shown: 43 per cent of low-lying atoll islands studied have grown, and just 14 per cent have shrunk.

    Here’s more that Shorten doesn’t know: the inconvenience he’ll cause with his plan to make us drive millions more electric cars.

    When asked how long they took to charge, he said “eight to 10 minutes’. But today’s models take 30 minutes, even with a fast charger.

    Nor, critically, does Shorten know that his policy won’t work. As Chief Scientist Alan Finkel admits, even if Shorten banned every car, plane, factory and power station, the effect on the climate would be “virtually nothing”.

    Yet Shorten still insists “it’s a stupid position not to take action” — including his action: a fake fix to a fake climate scare at a price he won’t say.

    How can you vote for such insanity?

  54. The twist of logic to place the crimes of communism at the feet of the US is astonishing.

    Not “a twist of logic”; a statement of historical fact.

    When asked if they did indeed use this as propaganda, former Khmer Rouge official, Chhit Do, replied:

    “Oh yes, they did. Every time after there had been bombing, they would take the people to see the craters, to see how big and deep the craters were, to see how the earth had been gouged out and scorched…The ordinary people… sometimes literally shit in their pants when the big bombs and shells came… Their minds just froze up and they would wander around mute for three or four days. Terrified and half-crazy, the people were ready to believe what they were told… That was what made it so easy for the Khmer Rouge to win the people over… It was because of their dissatisfaction with the bombing that they kept on cooperating with the Khmer Rouge, joining up with the Khmer Rouge, sending their children off to go with them… sometimes the bombs fell and hit little children, and their fathers would be all for the Khmer Rouge.”

  55. stackja

    Most hacked passwords revealed as UK cyber survey exposes gaps in online security
    The NCSC’s first ‘UK cyber survey’ published alongside global password risk list

    NCSC’s first ‘UK Cyber Survey’ shows 42% of Brits expect to lose money to online fraud
    Breach analysis finds 23.2 million victim accounts worldwide used 123456 as password
    Global password risk list published to disclose passwords already known to hackers

  56. calli

    My bathroom scales smiled lovingly at me this morning too.

    Another Easter Miracle!

  57. egg_

    Bob Brown’s mob of revolting protesters liken coal mines to gas chambers

    Do the swampies need a shower?
    /NADT

  58. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Did they leave Chloe on?

    I think there is a bit of a Malcolm factor about Chloe. The big end of town, privilege, mother the GG. She won’t necessarily play well with the women trying to find the money to pay the electricity and clothe the kids. Scott’s wife and family seem more ordinary, and so does he, especially for aspirationals. Or are we just grasping at straws, hoping against hope that the country won’t be stupid enough to fall for Bill?

  59. Arky

    No, really, that’s lovely.
    Bleaurrrrrr.
    Sorry. Must be the pancakes..

  60. Ellie

    Calli, I’ve consumed so much Tilba cheese, chocolate and port, I need to go on a diet.
    Cottage cheese, sugar free chocolate and soda and vodka from now on!

  61. Joanna

    Shorten was nowhere to be seen here in the most marginal of marginals, Corangamite, over Easter. I thought maybe with Bells on he would have donned his wetsuit and headed down to Torquay. Perhaps he was afraid of being questioned about the lack of surf and what he would do to remedy this. Because, of course, if you can control the weather then perfect waves are a given.

  62. Arky

    When asked if they did indeed use this as propaganda, former Khmer Rouge official, Chhit Do, replied:

    former Khmer Rouge official

  63. jo

    feelthebern
    #2994079, posted on April 21, 2019 at 9:22 pm

    The Cat at its worst is still handbags at ten paces.

    I think you’re confusing the ADF hierarchy with the Cat. The Cat is much tougher. No disrespect to the fine junior officers and enlisted members.

  64. Geriatri Mayfly

    … to the Victoria Police Professional Standards Command

    Cough. Splutter.

  65. jo

    feelthebern
    #2994079, posted on April 21, 2019 at 9:22 pm

    The Cat at its worst is still handbags at ten paces.

    I think you’re confusing the ADF hierarchy with the Cat. The Cat is much tougher. No disrespect to the fine junior officers and enlisted members.

  66. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Oh yes, they did. Every time after there had been bombing, they would take the people to see the craters, to see how big and deep the craters were, to see how the earth had been gouged out and scorched…

    Nothing to do with the Ho Chi Minh Trail, or the siting of North Vietnamese supply bases and sanctuaries inside Cambodia?

  67. Arky

    When asked if they did indeed use this as propaganda, former Khmer Rouge official, Chhit Do, replied:

    ..
    You are a sick joke.

  68. Geritaric Mayfly

    … to the Victoria Police Professional Standards Command

    Cough. Splutter.

  69. thefrollickingmole

    “We do not provide comment on police methodology.

    “Yes, we bugged his phone”

    Mirror man never mentions China or the USSR in his constant whine over Vietnam.

    Almost like hes being deliberately deceptive over the causes/supporters of the various “sides” in the war.

    Im sure hes also aware the north had conscription ?
    Also missing is any mention of why Cambodia was bombed.

    Still i suppose if you are bent out of shape by the government forcing you to do stuff its only logical to worship the government making other people do things you want..

  70. Geritaric Mayfly

    Tried to post this when it was more germane but a wing fell off my nom de plume. Hence sin bin.

    The ancient flora, some of which are more than 800 years old, have overseen hundreds of generations of Aboriginal ancestry and form an intrinsic part of the Djap Wurrung people’s cultural identity.
    It started with one ‘birthing tree’ and now encompasses a whole swathe of them. From one tree does a great forest grow. Wimmin and their reproductive powers again. Hindmarsh Island ring a bell?

  71. EvilElvis

    So the Senate works by not debating anything, passing laws that have not been read, suing people who aren’t nice enough and being unable to compel bureacrats to answer questions.

    We truly need an obstructionist Senate.

    Yep, but not to keep other pollies honest, we need an obstructionist senate to keep the bureaucratic bints in line! FMD! Women!

  72. OldOzzie

    What the Mueller Probe Really Means

    The real fireworks will only begin now as Trump seeks to investigate the investigators.

    by Conrad Black

    As there is clearly no excuse for the special counsel to have been established, Mueller devotes the second half of his report to an effort to scratch together a virtual justification for it, by leading the reader through another maze to imply that there might be a conceivable case against the president for obstruction of justice. He acknowledges that he does not have a clear idea of the president’s motives, and so cannot judge if there was a corrupt motive, but cannot exonerate him either.

    This is a reprehensibly unjust and shabby device. A special counsel is not in the exoneration business. If he thinks he has evidence of a crime by an incumbent president, that reaches the point of being beyond a reasonable doubt, he recommends impeachment.

    Rosenstein should never have tolerated the assembly by Mueller of an investigative team that was so incandescently partisan and anti-Trump, and the acting FBI director, Andrew McCabe, was too conflicted, with his wife’s status as a Democratic state candidate in Virginia and protegee of the Clintons, and should never have had anything to do with any of it. All of these positions that should have been adopted but were not, should have been looked into by Mueller, instead of his wasting over a year in nonsense about obstruction, when it was obvious from the first day that there had been no crime to cover up or incite obstruction.

    Even the most militant Democrats acknowledge the game of impeachment is up. Chairman Adam Schiff of the House Intelligence Committee doesn’t admit that there’s no ground to impeach, only that it can’t be done without any Republican collaboration. Speaker Nancy Pelosi comes to the same conclusion because “the president’s not worth it,” as if they had the ability to remove him but wouldn’t do it out of their high public responsibility and the president’s insignificance. The country is unlikely to have much patience with any more investigations of Trump. But it will be startled by the findings of the inspector general of the Justice Department, Mr. Michael E. Horowitz’s next report, and possibly by the mysterious special counsel John Huber (of Salt Lake City) looking into the Uranium and related activities of the Clinton Foundation for the last eighteen months, and by Attorney General William Barr and the Senate Judiciary Committee’s inquiries into how this destructive smear job was launched against the president in the first place. Some combination of those investigations is going to lay bare this entire sordid business, and some swollen and much-talking heads will roll.

  73. C.L.

    Graham Ashton, now chief commissioner, falsely told a parliamentary inquiry that the Melbourne Catholic diocese under Pell had not referred any victims of p#edophile priests to the police, and falsely claimed that victims compensated under a scheme set up by Pell had to sign confidentiality causes.

    This was the origin of VicPol rigging the prosecution of Pell.
    For this false testimony, Melbourne archdiocese’ barrister bashed Ashton specifically and VicPol generally for their lies. Victoria Police wanted revenge and the tactic they used was “trawling” – literally advertising for mentally deranged people to come forward and make false allegations. They then liaised with the ABC and Fairfax to ensure any potential jury would convict Pell no matter what. Ashton is a lying, oily slug who belongs in a jail cell.

  74. Nick

    After the Christchurch shooting, Fairfax had an offensive cartoon that had statements by Abbott et al, inferring that such words caused the incident. Strange that when terrorism is created by non whites, there are few if any thoughts as to what the causes may be at all.

  75. Geriatric Mayfly

    Tried to post this when it was more germane but a wing fell off my nom de plume. Hence sin bin.

    The ancient flora, some of which are more than 800 years old, have overseen hundreds of generations of Aboriginal ancestry and form an intrinsic part of the Djap Wurrung people’s cultural identity.

    It started with one ‘birthing tree’ and now encompasses a whole swathe of them. From one tree does a great forest grow. Wimmin and their reproductive powers again. Hindmarsh Island ring a bell?

  76. 132andBush

    My bathroom scales smiled lovingly at me this morning too.

    Another Easter Miracle!

    Lol, Calli

    Over 40mm of beautiful rain overnight, another miracle!

  77. John64

    Which One of these 2 is the Future Leader of Australia?

    The one on the right has more credibility but only promises you free stuff once a year.

  78. Geriatric Mayfly

    … to the Victoria Police Professional Standards Command

    Cough. Splutter.

  79. Woolfe

    Why was this published in your Sri Lankan leader?

    Is it respectful? Would you have published this about Christchurch?

    Michael
    55 MINUTES AGO
    Why didn’t “God” prevent the attacks in the first place?

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My bathroom scales smiled lovingly at me this morning too.

    I see you are getting match fit for that cruise, Calli.
    I will jump on mine in three weeks’ time well after I have done with the Easter chocolate. 🙂

  81. You are a sick joke.

    Suggest you do some research on the bombing of Cambodia, and it’s aftermath.
    You could start with these –
    i) Sak, Sutsakhan (1984). The Khmer Republic at war and the final collapse. United States Army Center of Military History. pp. 173–4.
    ii) Shawcross, William (1979). Sideshow: Kissinger, Nixon and the Destruction of Cambodia. Washington Square Books.
    iii) Kiernan, Ben and Owen, Taylor “Roots of U.s. Troubles in Afghanistan: Civilian Bombing Casualties and the Cambodian Precedent” The Asia Pacific Journal: Japan Focus accessed 1 April 2014
    iv) US Bombing of Cambodia—Still Counting the Dead by Dominic Faulder OCT, 2001 – The Irrawaddy VOLUME 9 NO.8
    v) Bombs Over Cambodia: New Light on US Air War; Taylor Owen and Ben Kiernan (May 2, 2007
    Volume 5 | Issue 5)
    vi) Bombs Over Cambodia – story by Taylor Owen and Ben Kiernan mapping by Taylor Owen

  82. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My diet starts when all the ice cream and yummy Italian wild cherries in syrup are consumed.
    And when that lonely leftover chocolate bunny hops into my tum. Might as well eat up until then. 🙂

  83. Geriatric Mayfly

    Surely there is a publisher who reads the Cat. Please give Numbers an advance in mega dollars, which should confine him to his basement for a decade or more, while he writes volumes 1 to 94 on the Vietnam War. Vols 1 & 2 are up and running; he has revealed all here, from trivial to the profound. in serial form.

  84. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sorry. Must be the pancakes..

    Here y’are, Arky, have a Zantac.

    I never joke here of course. 🙂

  85. notafan

    Yikes! I will have to watch my step come July.

    What is it about poo-ing in the streets? Can’t these people hold on?

    It’s the new ‘shaming’ for progs

    Yes it is a thing

  86. Buccaneer

    Stop blaming the US for the Vietnam war, they didn’t start the war and were really just defending a culturally and historically separate people from invasion by the communist backed northerners. This was a conflict that started well before the French arrived in the 1700s and it’s a tragedy that the US pulled out to leave the now southern minority to the brutality of a communist regime. Continuing to read distorted versions of the story that don’t reference the real fears of South Vietnamese of the consequences of a North victory only adds insult to injury.

  87. Tom

    Bleuuuuuuuuraghhbhhhh, Bleuuuuuuuuraghhbhhhh, oh God, hoooof, errrrg, Bleuuuuuuuuraghhbhhhh

    Thank you, Arky.

    Laughed like a drain.

  88. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Stupid emotions have gotten the better of me here often.

    No worries. The place is an emotional cesspit.

    Look over there at Arky right now.
    Doubled up in pain with it, he is.
    Let’s all have a big larf at him till we feel better. 🙂

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    oooooh. Lookee, it’s contagious. Now Tom’s got it.

    And me right out of Zantac too. Shame.

  90. OldOzzie

    GetUp!’s guerrilla game plan

    Peta Credlin

    Forget the sham claims of independence, since its inception, GetUp! has been running guerrilla campaigns against Liberal MPs, especially conservative ones.

    After the 2007 election, when GetUp! ran a how-to-vote website that no matter what questions were asked, advised voters to put the Liberal candidate last, the Electoral Commission branded their website “misleading and deceptive.”

    In 2016, GetUp! boasted that it had ejected the former decorated army brigadier, and conservative, Andrew Nikolic from his Tasmanian seat of Bass.

    This time it has even bigger targets: in Queensland, home affairs minister Peter Dutton; in Victoria, health minister Greg Hunt; in WA, attorney-general Christian Porter; and in NSW, their main focus, former PM Tony Abbott.

    In the 2016 campaign, GetUp! supported the former Australian Idol host James Mathison in Abbott’s seat of Warringah. Mathieson only got 12 per cent of the total vote but it was designed as a dry-run.

    This time, GetUp! is supporting former skier Zali Steggall who’s being marketed as “liberal-lite” but has admitted never voting Liberal in her life (at least federally) and wants a 60 per cent (!!) emissions reduction target.

    Naturally, Steggall denies that she’s getting support from GetUp! but her co-campaign director is a GetUp! operative (the other one is a former Labor staffer) and GetUp! are mobilising literally hundreds of left-wing activists to pour into Abbott’s electorate.

    For an organisation that still cries, “we’re independent”, their role as the “faux community” arm of the Left is now laid bare. Politics in this country used to be about debating the merits of one policy over another, with voters making the final decision. Sadly, it’s now about silencing debate, shutting down the contest of policies and ideas, and by targeting Liberal and conservative MPs, shifting Australia’s political “centre” to the left.

    GetUp!’s claim of one million “members” might sound impressive but these are actually just people on its email list who might have signed an online petition at one time or even donated something as small as $5 dollars in the past and who have no voting rights whatsoever.

    Far from being democratic, GetUp! Inc is controlled by just 12 directors (six of them Labor-affiliated and all of them left-wing activists). One of its founding board members was Bill Shorten.

    All up, over the past 15 years, GetUp! has spent at least $42 million on political campaigning. A good proportion of GetUp!’s money ($12.5 million reported last year) does indeed come from smaller donations but the biggest single donor ($1.1 million in 2010) has been the militant CFMEU.

    Despite advocating against foreign donations for years, GetUp! has accepted plenty of foreign money from left wing groups like the European Climate Fund ($93,000) and AVAAZ (a New York based “people power” group — $268,000). It’s even been reported that GetUp! has taken donations from a communist-backed organisation with links to the former Soviet Union.

    One of GetUp!’s big local donors, the Sunrise Project (which gave $495,000 last November) is an anti-coal, pro-climate change mob that receives money from the US Tides Foundation, a “progressive” charity dedicated to “daring change”.

    In Canada, Alberta premier-elect Jason Kenney (who won this week on a platform of scrapping Alberta’s carbon tax) declared in his victory speech: “to the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, The Tides Foundation…The David Suzuki Foundation and all of the others, your days of pushing Albertans around with impunity have just ended”

    Last year, fellow conservative Doug Ford won the election in Ontario pledging to dump that province’s carbon tax too. Right around the world, everyday families and small business battling ever-higher energy costs are fighting back against the Left’s push to wind back our standard of living for absolutely no environment gain.

    GetUp! and Bill Shorten like to categorise their opponents who want a sensible debate on climate change policy (and with transparent costings too) as “knuckle-dragging cavemen” but that’s where we’re headed if we insist reliable and affordable power is a modern-day luxury.

  91. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Michael
    55 MINUTES AGO
    Why didn’t “God” prevent the attacks in the first place?

    I know a few ‘Michael’s’.
    None of them would ever say this.
    ID’s on some blogs are so multiple you never know who is speaking.
    Glad the Cat is not like that.

    As for the substantive idea – that God should protect Christians.
    Someone should remind this guy that [email protected] didn’t do such a good job in Christchurch.

  92. Farmer Gez

    My diet starts when all the ice cream and yummy Italian wild cherries in syrup are consumed.
    And when that lonely leftover chocolate bunny hops into my tum. Might as well eat up until then. 🙂

    That’s a girl Lizzie, keep up your strength. The way we’re going in this country you might need to put those cow milking skills back in use.
    May I suggest a milkmaids outfit and a three legged stool.
    There’s nothing more mesmerising than the swinging of udders as the milkmaid plying her trade.

  93. Ellie

    Arky! Show us … your engine. It better be working.

    Tom! Well, um, just fine tune that golf swing.

  94. egg_

    we need an obstructionist senate to keep the bureaucratic bints in line!

    It’s life Jim, but not as we know it!

  95. Tom

    You’re a very naughty boy, Farmer Gez.

  96. Gab

    Let’s all have a big larf at him till we feel better. 🙂

    Ahahahaha I read that as “Let’s all have a big fart at him till we feel better” !

    I’m still chuckling at myself.

  97. Farmer Gez

    Too much time watching the Two Ronnie’s and Benny Hill as a kid, Tom.

  98. Ellie

    …swinging of udders…

    Sinc! This thread is getting saucy.
    Not too shabby for a Monday morning.

  99. lotocoti

    One day I’ll have to find the time to dig further into Pol Pot’s Liberation School, later known as the School of the Cruel.
    Where abducted children were trained as KR cadres and taught that no atrocity committed in the name of the Angkar was too extreme.

  100. egg_

    Far from being democratic, GetUp! Inc is controlled by just 12 directors (six of them Labor-affiliated and all of them left-wing activists). One of its founding board members was Bill Shorten.

    Sure it wasn’t GetItUp!?

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    One day I’ll have to find the time to dig further into Pol Pot’s Liberation School, later known as the School of the Cruel.

    Go and have a look for yourself, then reflect on the fact that some Lefties in this country genuinely believed that “the Communists may have taken over – they won’t be any worse then the current dictatorship..”

  102. rickw

    Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal option to being conscripted, which he chose not to exercise.

    His whole schtick is based on an inability to make a decision.

  103. C.L.

    Then:

    Adam [email protected] AdamBandt

    16 April

    I am utterly heartbroken by the right-wing extremist terrorist attack in Christchurch & grieve with Melb’s Muslim community.

    I’ll be at some of Melb’s mosques on Sunday when they open their doors as part of ‘Open Mosque’ day. I encourage people to show support by doing the same.

    Now:

  104. OldOzzie

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2994527, posted on April 22, 2019 at 11:57 am

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2019/04/bills-tax-merry-go-round.html

    Well done, the Liberal Party.

    Bill’s tax merry-go-round
    Sunday, 21 April 2019

    Every time Bill comes around, he’s got a new tax. 🎠 pic.twitter.com/jl8K3Riud4
    — Liberal Party (@LiberalAus) April 20, 2019

    The Liberals campaign team was quick off the mark with this ripper ad which they produced within hours of Shorten’s ride.

    He’s a clown without the ticker for the top job.

    That is actually very good one for Liberals to Roll Out

  105. C.L.

    Then:

    Adam [email protected] AdamBandt

    16 April

    I am utterly heartbroken by the right-wing extremist terrorist attack in Christchurch & grieve with Melb’s Mvzl1m community.

    I’ll be at some of Melb’s mosques on Sunday when they open their doors as part of ‘Open Mosque’ day. I encourage people to show support by doing the same.

    Now:

  106. Boambee John

    Avoid that manifestation of your issues, and you won’t see “Fatty 5D” again. Promise….

    Troll tries to disguise its psychological issues, unaware that the Doomlord establishes the language rules.

  107. stackja

    Pol Pot supporter?

    Pol Pot
    From Wikipedia

    n May 1975, a squad of Khmer Rouge soldiers raided and took the island of Phú Quốc. By 1977, relations with Vietnam began to fall apart. There were small border clashes in January. Pol Pot tried to prevent border disputes by sending a team to Vietnam. The negotiations failed, which caused even more border disputes. On 30 April, the Cambodian army, backed by artillery, crossed over into Vietnam. In attempting to explain Pol Pot’s behavior, one region-watcher[specify] suggested that Cambodia was attempting to intimidate Vietnam by irrational acts into respecting or at least fearing Cambodia to the point they would leave the country alone. However, these actions only served to goad the Vietnamese people and government against the Khmer Rouge.

    On the night of 15 April 1998, two days before the 23rd anniversary of the Khmer Rouge takeover of Phnom Penh, the Voice of America, of which Pol Pot was a devoted listener, announced that the Khmer Rouge had agreed to turn him over to an international tribunal. According to his wife, he died in his bed later that night while waiting to be moved to another location. Ta Mok claimed that his death was due to heart failure.[188]

    Ta Mok later described the way he died: “He was sitting in his chair waiting for the car to come. But he felt tired. His wife asked him to take a rest. He laid down on his bed. His wife heard a gasp of air. It was the sound of dying. When she touched him he had already died. It was at 10:15 last night”.[189]

    Despite government requests to inspect the body, it was cremated at Anlong Veng in the Khmer Rouge zone a few days later,[190] raising suspicions that he had committed suicide by taking an overdose of the medication which he had been prescribed.[191][192] Journalist Nate Thayer, who was present, held the view that Pol Pot killed himself when he became aware of Ta Mok’s plan to hand him over to the United States.

    Thayer claimed that “Pol Pot died of a lethal dose of a combination of Valium and chloroquine”.[193]

  108. C.L.

    Then:

    Peter [email protected]_Fitz

    Jacinda Adern says 40 killed in total. A complete catastrophe in #Christchurch.

    Now:

  109. mh

    N. Korea Says Bolton Comments on Third Summit Are Foolish: KCNA

    (Bloomberg) — North Korea has criticized U.S. National Security Adviser John Bolton for his comments downplaying a possible third summit between Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un, according to KCNA.

    “We never expected anything logical from Bolton, but as national security adviser, he should at least know the context of dialogue that took place between the two leaders regarding a third summit before he says anything,” North Korea’s Foreign Ministry diplomat Choe Son Hui was quoted by the news agency as saying. “I’m not sure if he meant to be humorous, but for me, his comments were unattractive and foolish.”

    Bolton on Wednesday said the U.S. would need more evidence North Korea is ready to give up its nuclear weapons before Trump would meet Kim for a third time. His tone was more pessimistic than other members of the U.S. administration including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who earlier rejected calls by Pyongyang to be removed from the negotiation table.

    The U.S. and South Korea are seeking to resume denuclearization talks, which stalled after a summit in Vietnam between Trump and Kim ended in failure in February. Trump has said smaller agreements may be reached but that he still wants a “big deal” to rid North Korea of its nuclear arms capabilities.

  110. feelthebern

    JC, have you looked at the Trump Opportunity Zones?
    FMD, what a gold mine.

  111. Gab

    On the first day of the Tet Offensive, 30 January 1968, Việtcộng troops led Father John-Baptiste Nguyễn Phuc Bửu Đồng to a nearby pagoda for questioning. He was later released after a passionate appeal by elders of his parish. Five days later, the Việtcộng returned and searched his rectory. Seizing his binoculars, camera, typewriter and picture of Hồ Chí Minh, the troops led the priest, aged 57, and two seminarians away. His corpse was found on 8 November 1969 at Luong Vien, about 30 kilometers northeast of Huế. The bodies of two other Catholic priests were in the same grave. This location contained a series of graves with a total of 20 bodies.[3][4][5][6]

  112. calli

    Lambs to the slaughter, Gab.

    God never promised to protect Christians. Quite the opposite.

    He only promised that they would live with Him.

  113. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I hate the news media and the immediacy of photographs these days, even as I read back thread on the Cat not daring to do the main news feeds. I am in tears from looking at the photos of families at the Shangri La who were holidaying and enjoying their breakfast. In one photo a beautiful young girl like my own niece, who is Sri Lankan in looks, is smiling, not realizing she has only minutes left to live. Just awful. And the Nicholson family, mum and lovely eleven year old boy killed, dad distraught, the younger child, a daughter, missing. And the Negombo church with its roof blown off by the force of the blast. And the statue of Christ splattered with human remains on the day of His Resurrection, as is the wall behind the statue. If I believed in devils, I’d say they were walking the earth of this jeweled isle on Sunday.

  114. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In mod for the j word. Trying again:

    I hate the news media and the immediacy of photographs these days, even as I read back thread on the Cat not daring to do the main news feeds. I am in tears from looking at the photos of families at the Shangri La who were holidaying and enjoying their breakfast. In one photo a beautiful young girl like my own niece, who is Sri Lankan in looks, is smiling, not realizing she has only minutes left to live. Just awful. And the Nicholson family, mum and lovely eleven year old boy killed, dad distraught, the younger child, a daughter, missing. And the Negombo church with its roof blown off by the force of the blast. And the statue of Christ splattered with human remains on the day of His Resurrection, as is the wall behind the statue. If I believed in devils, I’d say they were walking the earth of this j 3weled isle on Sunday.

  115. Baldrick

    C.L.
    #2994432, posted on April 22, 2019 at 10:05 am
    So-called “trolls” want everything to be about them and to disrupt intelligent discussion.
    Numbers comes here every day and wins; he beats the living shit out of all of you.
    You’re his bitches and you have the mental discipline of five year-olds.

    Catallaxy FactCheck ➡ True

  116. Overburdened

    bob brown on Sky last evening presented himself as a raving lunatic, making stuff up out of thin air including the far fetched statement that over 100,000 people were killed by climate change.

    It may be they were electrocuted plugging in their pedestal fans. I don’t know.

    At no time did he address the substance of the questions that were offered to him by Chris Kenny, who showed a total lack of balls by not amping up at the perverted old prick.

    brown looks like he is beginning to suffer age related derangement.

    How he has any credibility and influence has got me fucked.

  117. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hands off Adani, militant mining union tells Shorten

    Exclusive
    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    @gregbrown_TheOz
    12:00AM April 22, 2019
    92 Comments

    The mining union has warned Bill Shorten against taking any action that could jeopardise the Adani coalmine ahead of a campaign stop today in north Queensland where the issue threatens to cost Labor the Townsville-based seat of Herbert.

    The Construction Forestry Maritime Mining and Energy Union warning comes as Labor headquarters appears open to the prospect of revisiting the Adani approval process as it questions whether Environment Minister Melissa Price gave the mine a green light after being bullied by colleagues.

    When asked yesterday if Labor would review the federal environmental approvals of Adani if it won the election, a spokesman said it was “extraordinary” Ms Price approved the mine after being threatened by her colleagues.

    “The public needs to know how this came about and whether the alleged bullying of minister Price influenced her decision on the approval of groundwater management plan for Adani,” he said.

    The statement came despite Labor MP Cathy O’Toole, whose ultra-marginal seat of Herbert takes in Townsville, vowing “hand on heart” that federal Labor would not change the mine’s approvals.

    CFMEU mining and energy Queensland president Steve Smyth said Mr Shorten would be “crazy” to review the federal ­approvals of the mine, which is yet to be ticked-off by Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk.

    Mr Smyth last month warned that the union would campaign against candidates after the Queensland Labor government delayed the Adani coalmine with an 11th hour review of an environmental management plan.

    From the Oz. All is not well in the bouncy castle?

  118. Baldrick

    MILITANT anti-Adani activists supporting the Bob Brown-led convoy have compared Queensland coal miners to Nazis who exterminated millions of Joows in gas chambers during the Holocoust.

    Imagine the outrage if it were said by Fraser Anning.

  119. Overburdened

    bobbrown presented as a deranged old loony on Sky last night.

    Chris Kenny showed a total lack of balls in not giving the pervert both barrels for not answering the questions and making up bullshit.

  120. OldOzzie

    Mini satellites set to beam broadband Down Under

    Chris Griffith
    Technology Reporter


    The chief of a leading global company offering low-orbit satellites is in talks with Australian firms to bring its new-age broadband service to Australia.

    Conventional satellites in a ­geostationary orbit of about 36,000km offer slower broadband and suffer from slow response times (latency) due to the long distances that radio signals travel. But a new wave of networks of toaster-sized satellites travelling at 500km upwards from Earth promise to bring gigabit speeds to rural and regional areas and where fast broadband has been hard to install.

    OneWeb is among a growing list of firms interested in the technology. They include SpaceX Starlink, Amazon and Facebook. Adelaide-based Fleet is among firms already adapting low-orbit satellites to collecting data from tiny sensors around the world. The technology has been adapted to high-resolution photography of Earth from low space.

    Adrian Steckel, chief executive of OneWeb, said Australia was definitely on OneWeb’s agenda and he confirmed he had held talks with local companies.

    “Yes we have, and I’m under a non-disclosure agreement so I can’t divulge the names,” he told The Australian

    The company plans to put at least two earth stations in Australia. These earth stations would help OneWeb deliver the connectivity that could help connect the rural and remote towns, cities, people across Australia and Southeast Asia
    , he said.
    OneWeb chjef executive Adrian Steckel (right) with founder and chairman Greg Wyler (left) and investor Sir Richard Branson.

    Hundreds of small satellites the size of toasters form a constellation network.

    OneWeb launched its first six satellites for its network in French Guiana in February. OneWeb and its joint-venture partner Airbus are preparing a major production of these satellites from June.

    “We’re going to be building basically one satellite a day, and we can go up to two satellites a day by the end of the year,” he said. “We’ll be launching 35 satellites a month, every month for the next 20 months, starting December.”

    The initial constellation will be 650 satellites orbiting at 1200km with commercial operations starting in 2021. The initial service will provide about one terabit of broadband communications. Mr Steckel’s next target is 2000 satellites by 2026.

    It’s the latest communications project by Mr Steckel, a US-Mexican businessman who previously had been involved in rolling out many forms of communication technology in South America.

    OneWeb was founded in 2012 by US tech entrepreneur Greg Wyler and initially focused on satellites in distant geostationary orbit. Steckel had spent 25 years in the communications business in Mexico heading firms offering cellular GSM, CDMA, HSPA, LTE and more.

    He was also president and CEO of Azteca America, a subsidiary of one of the world’s biggest producers of Spanish-language television globally, and CEO of Unefon, a Mexican teleco with 1.4 million subscribers.

    Working with the parent firm Grupo Salinas, he said he invested $US25 million ($35m) in OneWeb in 2015 and $US75m in January 2017. He became CEO of One­Web last September.

    He said the low-orbit satellite push had turned into a multibillion-dollar project.

    “It’s taken us a while to get all the right partners on board and to get the engineering right,” he said.

    “We saw the potential for low-orbit satellites in 2015 when we made our initial investment.

    “We had a lot of experience in using (conventional) satellite and being unsatisfied with them as they have relatively small use cases. And the latency is very big.”

    The Mexican conglomerate employed 80,000 people in Mexico at the time.

    Through Grupo Salinas he also oversaw the building of fibre networks in Peru and Colombia.

    Much of OneWeb’s charter is to deliver fast broadband in the developing world, but OneWeb’s financial backers also want their services available in the developed world, including countries such as Australia. He said it translated into higher GDP and development for all.

    “They have different use cases. Aviation, maritime use, and land mobility would be what we most concentrate on in the developed world, and in the developing world, I would be working also with small businesses, and also with telcos to help broaden their networks.

    “So you might want to put up a base station with 4G or 5G in a town. But getting the fibre optic cable there may not be practical, and you might connect through our satellite.”

    Mr Steckel doesn’t see low-orbit satellite as being in direct competition with fibre networks such as Australia’s National Broadband Network or cellular, although these satellites and 5G are both perfect vehicles for collecting data from the millions of sensors expected to be installed to monitor agriculture, livestock, transport and more.

    He sees them as complementary technologies. “If you have fibre in the ground, the fibre will always outperform any other technology. So we want to help broaden the reach of those systems,” he said.

    “And we’re all about broadening the use case of satellites. We see a future where you have flat panel antennas in a car, on a train, on a plane and on a boat that are inexpensive, and allow you to get quality broadband at speed.”

    A 3D rendered image of a small OneWeb satellite in orbit.

    In Australia he sees future working with a local partner providing broadband services in regional and remote areas. Antennas needed less power to reach lower-orbit satellites so many earthbound users would communicate directly with them, other installations might involve a node of many users linking to the satellite.

    In that vein, his satellites could offer last-mile solutions for Australia’s internet services including the NBN. OneWeb was particularly interested in fast internet connecting schools and community centres.

    “We will certainly have ground stations that connect into the NBN in Australia,” he said.

    The theoretical throughput of one terabit per second by 2021, or 10,000 connections at 100 megabits per second, means it won’t be taking over broadband delivery, but OneWeb promises to be effective plugging the gaps. Its satellite offering is small compared to plans announced by SpaceX and Amazon but its credibility is that it’s getting satellites launched.

    Over time, that capacity would increase as newer “toaster” satellites were launched and the throughput capacity of each satellite would jump 10 times or more.

    Mr Steckel said enough satellites would be launched to ensure continued connectivity across the globe with a satellite visible at all times. “We don’t see weather as being an issue,” he said, adding the system would be suited to aiding disaster recovery.

    Again he saw low-orbit satellite as complementing 5G providing fast broadband, but he said it could service areas that 5G can’t such as boats at sea.

    “These are tools in a toolkit. Generally speaking, there’s no magic, there’s no one tool that solves all problems.”

    He said OneWeb was in contact with regulatory bodies to ­ensure its satellites don’t add to the proliferation of the already astronomical amounts of space junk in orbit. Options included using a robotic arm to collect older satellites or forcing them into lower orbits where they burned up.

  121. Baldrick

    Oh, so now it’s okay not to engage in conjecture …

    2GB 873 ✔ @2GB873
    Foreign Minister Marise Payne on the Sri Lanka Easter Sunday attacks.
    “These are devastating terrorist attacks… but I don’t think it would be helplful to engage in conjecture as to who is behind it.”

  122. notafan

    Give ’em a break CL

    It’s Easter, Fitzsimmons and Bandt are on holidays

  123. notafan

    I will conjecture

    It was Moldemort what dun it.

    The Sri Lankan government are probing if there was outside help

    are they looking at Pakistan?

  124. Overburdened

    Sheesh

    Initial comment didn’t appear so stuck in an abridged version.

    I hope old bob doesn’t fall on his arse whilst walking around drumming up support.

    They’ed have to slide him to the edge of the footpath to stand him up.

  125. Tel

    “These are devastating terrorist attacks… but I don’t think it would be helplful to engage in conjecture as to who is behind it.”

    It’s amazing how much you can not find … when you don’t look.

  126. Atoms for Peace

    I don’t think the CFMEU will be happy with the gas comparison.

  127. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There’s nothing more mesmerising than the swinging of udders as the milkmaid plying her trade.

    Farmer Gez, no cute little seat, and not an object of desire that time either. I sat on an old box and at thirteen or fourteen didn’t have much myself to swing around in a buxom milkmaidly manner, although Old Lady had plenty. Friesians, as noted back thread, are the tremendous milkers, huge udders producing thin blue milk; my dad had some agisted with a guy who did all the work and who ended up with the lot when things finally went belly up for us at home. I don’t know what possessed my father to think he could ever become a small-scale farmer with a few pigs, chickens and a share in a ten Friesians, horrible big kicking animals who had mental problems at full moon. I fed the pigs and chickens every morning before school, as well as milking Old Lady. If I didn’t get to school, too bad. No-one seemed to notice, so I’d take a book down the creek to read. Many back blocks farm kids had poor attendances in those days.

  128. candy

    It’s hard to find much news in the Australian media, at least on line, of the Christian massacres in Sri Lanka.

    One thing I read was some blame attached to Buddhists. That seems hard to believe.

  129. Gab

    It’s hard to find much news in the Australian media, at least on line, of the Catholic massacres in Sri Lanka.

    I fixes it for you.

  130. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sign outside a church somewhere in America. LOL!

    Archdeacon (For an arch he is) Bower of Gosford fame, would love to monkey about with that.

  131. notafan

    Hi Marisa

    #NewsAlert – At least 2 blasts carried out by suicide bombers. Suicide bombers behind attact at Shangri La Hotel and Batticaloa Church. The suicide bombers has been identified as Zahran Hashim and Abu M ohammed. #SriLankaTerrorAttack | Details by @Zakka_Jacob

    Very Buddhist names too

    Like I said

    Moldemortians

  132. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Seen via @WokeMonopoly on twitter…

    The Intercept ✔ @theintercept 5:59 AM – Feb 5, 2019
    Hired through an online gig economy platform, workers unknowingly helped Google improve its artificial intelligence military-targeting software. https://interc.pt/2DT7d0c

    Do you want a Cube? Because this is how you get a Cube.
    Same as the backstory given in the Cube movie. None of the workers knew what they were working on or even who they were working for.

  133. Farmer Gez

    I was king of the cats as a young lad milking our no name cows.
    A well aimed squirt for the two or three who followed me around.
    I also shot sparrows in the gum trees with a Diana air rifle by torchlight. Mum said you could always find me by following the cats.

  134. OldOzzie

    Air-Breathing Rocket Engine Gets Green Light for Major Tests

    The Synergistic Air-Breathing Rocket Engine (SABRE), which is being developed by the U.K. company Reaction Engines, can switch between two modes. In aircraft-engine mode, it uses oxygen from the atmosphere, and in rocket-engine mode, it burns an oxidizer carried onboard together with the fuel liquid hydrogen.

  135. Tel

    I fixes it for you.

    I’m pretty sure that the hotels that got blasted were not specifically Catholic … although the churches were.

    I’m guessing more likely a general dislike of Westerners and Western values is the consistent motive here.

  136. notafan

    One church was protestant.

    Christianity is not a western religion, but is painted that way because it is a convenient lie for some that white equals Christian and brown equals moldemortian, there have been Christians in Sri Lanka since the time of the Apostles, as St Thomas was reputed to have visited Sri Lanka, no doubt why the Shrine of St Thomas was chosen as a target.

  137. rickw

    CL, keep up the work on the comparative virtue signalling of the elite imbeciles!

  138. Infidel Tiger

    I fixes it for you.

    Only if your contention is that Catholics aren’t Christians.

  139. OldOzzie

    Gab
    #2994553, posted on April 22, 2019 at 12:27 pm

    Sign outside a church somewhere in America. LOL!

    Gab,

    Pre-empted years ago by The Bishop’s Gambit in Yes Prime Minister

    While Bernard is away, the PM asks Sir Humphrey to define “Modernist”. The Cabinet Secretary explains that, in Ecclesiastical circles, “Modernist” is code for an Atheist. “An Atheist clergyman,” he elaborates, “couldn’t continue to draw his stipend. So when they stop believing in God, they call themselves Modernist.”

    Stunned, the PM demands to know why the Church would recommend an Atheist for Bishop of Bury St. Edmunds. Sir Humphrey explains that the Church of England has nothing to do with Christianity — it’s “part of the rich social fabric of this country” and the ideal Bishop is “a cross between a socialite and a socialist”. Then, Bernard returns with Canon Stanford’s record — the prospective Bishop is not only an Atheist, he is also a Marxist and a militant opponent of the Cold War. What is worse, being Bishop of Bury St. Edmunds will give Canon Stanford a platform in the House of Lords. Calling the Canon “a political troublemaker”, the PM announces that he doesn’t want to approve either candidate. Bernard and Sir Humphrey, however, explain that that would not be advisable.

    Worth the 30 mins watching

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5tc4li

  140. rickw

    I was king of the cats as a young lad milking our no name cows.
    A well aimed squirt for the two or three who followed me around.

    Even if it wasn’t that well aimed the cats never seemed to mind to much!

  141. notafan

    True by the way IT
    we must not fall into that evangelical trap

  142. calli

    Zion Church, Baticaloa is Evangelical.

    The monsters who stalk Christians are definitely believers in Equal Opportunity.

  143. Dr Faustus

    So how did Pell’s private phone call become public gossip? Until there’s an innocent explanation, we must wonder if this is more evidence that Pell has powerful enemies determined to believe the worst of him, and to make others do so, too.

    Backup plan on behalf of the Committee of State Security.

    When Pell’s conviction is found “unreasonable” on appeal in June and he is acquitted, the ‘yes, yes, technically innocent, but actually guilty as Hell‘ meme needs to be running flat chat to deter unsound investigation of Operation Tethering and all who sailed on it.

  144. Mitch M.

    It’s hard to find much news in the Australian media, at least on line, of the Christian massacres in Sri Lanka.

    One thing I read was some blame attached to Buddhists. That seems hard to believe.

    Candy it has been the headline article on The Guardian since the first reports rolled in. I just checked, it still is at the top.

    However the ongoing persecution and\or slaughter of Christians in Nigeria or the Middle East rarely receives any attention.

  145. OldOzzie

    IEEE Spectrum – How the Boeing 737 Max Disaster Looks to a Software Developer
    Design shortcuts meant to make a new plane seem like an old, familiar one are to blame

    The 737 first appeared in 1967, when I was 3 years old. Back then it was a smallish aircraft with smallish engines and relatively simple systems. Airlines (especially Southwest) loved it because of its simplicity, reliability, and flexibility. Not to mention the fact that it could be flown by a two-person cockpit crew—as opposed to the three or four of previous airliners—which made it a significant cost saver. Over the years, market and technological forces pushed the 737 into ever-larger versions with increasing electronic and mechanical complexity. This is not, by any means, unique to the 737. Airliners constitute enormous capital investments both for the industries that make them and the customers who buy them, and they all go through a similar growth process.

    Much had to do with the engines themselves. The principle of Carnot efficiency dictates that the larger and hotter you can make any heat engine, the more efficient it becomes. That’s as true for jet engines as it is for chainsaw engines.

    It’s as simple as that. The most effective way to make an engine use less fuel
per unit of power produced is to make it larger. That’s why the Lycoming O-360 engine in my Cessna has pistons the size of dinner plates. That’s why
marine diesel engines stand three stories tall. And that’s why Boeing wanted to put the huge CFM International LEAP engine in its latest version of the 737.

    There was just one little problem: The original 737 had (by today’s standards) tiny little engines, which easily cleared the ground beneath the wings. As the 737 grew and was fitted with bigger engines, the clearance between the engines and the ground started to get a little…um, tight.

  146. calli

    Thank you for the banner, Sinc.

  147. Bill Thompson

    Speaking of man’s effect on Earth’s environment & especially all the climate change hypocrites who infest the globe at present, I recall Joe Biden’s butterfly-like presence in Melbourne a few years ago. This guy, despite his utter uselessness, must have personally contributed gigatonnes of greenhouse gasses every time he ventured out of Washington. This was his motorcade, arriving at the Boeing plant in Melbourne, in July 2016. Talk about “much ado about nothing”! Apologies for referring to “Mrs Ashcroft” in the clip, instead of “Mrs Ash Carter” – another senior moment on my part!!!! Biden’s hands-on approach to Ash Carter’s wife has generated renewed interest of late, too.

    https://youtu.be/wUwNgx8GKYE

  148. Farmer Gez

    Death toll now 290.

  149. Done Deal

    So Mr ‘I agree with whatever she said’ is gonna save the planet, give everyone a living wage to hold back the cost of saving said planet, provide ubiquitous recharge stations for their brand new EMV’s, cure cancer, bury all diggers for $12k a pop, +++ and all at the cost to just the greedy top 5% earning all the dosh. What a guy. Maybe I should start thinking of him more as Canute and less as a populist galoot. Personally I’m pretty sure the diggers would rather have the $12k while they are alive and kicking and able to enjoy it; as my dear old dad used to say, when you’re alive, live in clover, cos when you’re dead, you’re dead all over.
    Come to think of it, don’t suppose shorterarse could cut me a slice of the $12k too. Perhaps on behalf of my whole family: for Mum and dad stoically working their arses off travelling all over the country to get work and feed & educate 5 kids, being too proud to take the dole, doing any work they could before finally getting together enough for a humble retirement, then falling off the perch after a lifetime of PUTTING IN. And for my 4 siblings and me, working from early to mid-teens to get ahead without so much as a single dole cheque to offset a lifetime of paying taxes. Dad must be turning in his ashes urn.
    All this without so much as a thank you from the likes of this moron who now wants to clip the retirement tickets of the generations who made this place, so he can buy the votes of the new ‘privileged’ classes that keep getting shipped into the country, who are even less grateful. Words fail.

  150. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Commentor on the Oz website says that, between them, Bill Shorten and Richard Di Natale will make Gough Whitlam look like the blessed Saint Margaret Hilda.

  151. jupes

    But it will be startled by the findings of the inspector general of the Justice Department, Mr. Michael E. Horowitz’s next report …

    I wouldn’t be putting too much faith in this clown’s report.

    He was the bloke who thought Peter Strzok’s appointment didn’t result in bias.

  152. Atoms for Peace

    How are the debil debil coal convoy celebs getting back to Tasmania?

  153. Eyrie

    Old Ozzie, That article is just about complete garbage.
    He lost me at “The most effective way to make an engine use less fuel
 per unit of power produced is to make it larger. “. His Lycoming has large cylinders because it is low revving and hence needs the capacity to develop the required power. The reason for low revs is to avoid using a reduction gearbox to keep the prop tips from going supersonic.
    The larger fan on the LEAP engine is for better propulsive efficiency to better match the exhaust velocity to the speed of flight. Any efficiency gains in the core don’t make it bigger, just hotter so less fuel required to drive the larger fan.
    The time you took to read the article is time you’ll never get back.

  154. mh

    While the media refuses to tell us the obvious – Mus lims did it – they are working hard on finding the Trump angle:

    BuzzFeed News editor takes heat for suggesting Trump would be more outraged if Sri Lanka victims were white

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/buzzfeed-news-editor-trump-outraged-sri-lanka-victims-white

  155. calli

    It’s the Crying Game Election.

    Vote for Tits, get a Dick.

    The horror!

  156. cohenite

    Any msm outlet mention the religion of pieces yet re: Sri Lanka.

  157. Gab

    Thank you for that banner, Sinclair.

  158. calli

    Seven did this morning, cohenite.

    Amazingly, they’re still broadcasting.

  159. Done Deal
    #2994595, posted on April 22, 2019 at 1:46 pm

    Don’t hold back, whats really on your mind.

    If Oz gets a shortfilth government i hope you have a bolthole to go to.

    Part of me misses Australia, it is where i come from and will always be part of me, but a bigger part of me doesn’t miss it at all.

  160. Vote for Tits, get a Dick.

    That is very clever, i may borrow that line

  161. thefrollickingmole

    It’s the Crying Game Election.
    Vote for Tits, get a Dick.

    The horror!

    Ok everybody stop commenting now, interwebs won for today.

  162. P

    BuzzFeed News editor takes heat for suggesting Trump would be more outraged if Sri Lanka victims were white

    Sri Lanka attack victims: British mother and son killed

  163. cohenite

    Seven did this morning, cohenite.

    Amazingly, they’re still broadcasting.

    Ah yes, it was very brief and as they say in the business smothered by other facts.

  164. mh

    Sri Lanka: One jihad mass murderer was well-known Mus lim preacher who said “Allah created this land for Mus lims”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org

  165. Atoms for Peace

    When it comes to a certain religion, the MSM goes into Zaphod Beeblebrox mode; 2 talking heads at odds with the peril sunglasses in opaque mode.

  166. John Constantine

    Their abc operate on the basis that truthful is not always helpful and if you can’t say anything helpful, it is best to say nothing.

    If you say something helpful that is not yet truthful, it is obviously not a lie, simply something said a little too soon.

    Comrades.

  167. calli

    Uh oh. I’m in the bad books for that comment.

    From now on I promise not to publish movie spoilers.

  168. Rossini

    Done Deal
    #2994595, posted on April 22, 2019 at 1:46 pm

    Well said!

  169. Arky

    I never managed to watch the Crying Game all the way through, and somewhere in my mind always confused it with Reindeer Games.
    Something about a transexual deer fighting for the IRA.

  170. Arky

    Ben Affleck played the deer IIRC.

  171. mh

    While on the subject of the slaughter of Christians, this is an interesting read

    Exposed: Obama Administration Facilitated Christian Genocide in Nigeria

    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/119448/exposed-obama-administration-facilitated-christian-genocide-in-nigeria-opinion/

  172. jupes

    Sri Lanka: One jihad mass murderer was well-known Mus lim preacher who said “Allah created this land for Mus lims”

    Compare and contrast the speed which “right wing” terrorism was blamed for the New Zealand massacre, to the obfuscation going on here about Sri Lanka. The West Australian never even mentioned the M word until near the end of the article, where they reckoned that Buddhists had been picking on the M people. Got that? It’s the Buddhist’s fault!

    Here is the ABC throwing smoke:

    Local Christian groups said they faced increasing intimidation from some extremist Buddhist monks in recent years.

    Last year, there were clashes between the majority Sinhalese Buddhist community and minority M..l.ms, with some hardline Buddhist groups accusing M..l.ms of forcing people to convert to Islam.

    What’s the bet that Slomo and Dolly never even mention the M word in relation to this.

    Seriously, what is the point? Who do think they are kidding?

  173. jupes

    Sri Lanka: One jihad mass murderer was well-known Mus lim preacher who said “Allah created this land for Mus lims”

    Compare and contrast the speed which “right wing” terrorism was blamed for the New Zealand massacre, to the obfuscation going on here about Sri Lanka. The West Australian never even mentioned the M word until near the end of the article, where they reckoned that Buddhists had been picking on the M people. Got that? It’s the Buddhist’s fault!

    Here is the ABC throwing smoke:

    Local Christian groups said they faced increasing intimidation from some extremist Buddhist monks in recent years.

    Last year, there were clashes between the majority Sinhalese Buddhist community and minority M..l.ms, with some hardline Buddhist groups accusing M..l.ms of forcing people to convert to I*l*m.

    What’s the bet that Slomo and Dolly never even mention the M word in relation to this.

    Seriously, what is the point? Who do think they are kidding?

  174. Arky

    And of course, Liam Neeson, playing Rudolf, had that great line:
    “You can’t handle the hoof”.

  175. Nick

    We live in a strange world, where:

    No one has died from climate change per se, yet lives to be lost is a main reason for change. Yet 290 people dying from terrorism is no big deal.

    People judge Pell as being guilty without knowing the evidence against him, yet will say that we can’t judge as to who was behind the events in SL as ‘we don’t know all of the facts’.

  176. calli

    While the lardy Mzzzz Payne is opining or, more truthfully, forbidding opining on SL mass murder…

    Any updates on Dr. Ken Elliott? How’s DEFAT (appropriate acronym) going on securing his whereabouts and release?

  177. rickw

    Death toll now 290.

    Sadly there will be more to come, prospects not good if you’re wounded and in a massively overloaded hospital system.

  178. Tel

    cohenite #2994632,
    Show me where Sco-Mo has gone out and campaigned on ANY of those issues you listed. Show me a speech putting forward their side and contrasting themselves with the other guys.

  179. rickw

    Has Jacinda Jihadi said anything monumentally stupid on the Sri Lankan mu slim terrorist attack yet?

  180. cohenite

    Tel

    #2994636, posted on April 22, 2019 at 2:28 pm

    cohenite #2994632,
    Show me where Sco-Mo has gone out and campaigned on ANY of those issues you listed. Show me a speech putting forward their side and contrasting themselves with the other guys.

    You know very well Tel, that the controversial stuff is not front and centre because conservatives are cowards these days but they generally don’t touch these issues like the left. Of course the lacuna between libs and liars is razor thin too hence the success of the SSM crapola. But right now these issues are treated differently by the majors. Just saying.

  181. stackja

    cohenite
    #2994644, posted on April 22, 2019 at 2:35 pm

    You know very well Tel, that the controversial stuff is not front and centre because conservatives are cowards these days but they generally don’t touch these issues like the left.

    Is FA conservative?

  182. Beachcomber

    The ABC have decided who is responsible for the massacre of Christians in Sri Lanka. It is right wing white extremists.
    If Mozlems are involved it is only because they are understandably responding to the Christchurch shootings.

  183. Beachcomber

    The ABC have decided who is responsible for the massacre of Christians in Sri Lanka. It is right wing white extremists.
    If Mozlems are involved, it is only because they are understandably responding to the Christchurch shootings by right wing white extremists.

  184. Jupes:

    What’s the bet that Slomo and Dolly never even mention the M word in relation to this.
    Seriously, what is the point? Who do think they are kidding?

    People are watching and quietly making note.

  185. hzhousewife

    Neuroscientists can read brain activity to predict decisions 11 seconds before people act

    How do they know what question Eddie is about to ask on Millionaire?

  186. lotocoti

    The ABC have decided who is responsible for …

    Well obviously.
    Who colonised Sri Lanka?
    Portugal.
    And who is Portugal’s oldest ally?
    Britain.
    And who is British?
    Tommy Robinson.
    QED.
    /neo-post-colonial progressive dialectic.

  187. egg_

    It’s the Crying Game Election.

    Vote for Tits, get a Dick.

    Is The Scrote covering the erection election?

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    Baldrick, 12.39pm;

    That voluminous POS Payne knows goddamn well who’s responsible for the Sri Lanka bombings, killing 290 and injuring 500.

    The Australian public are, in general terms, more informed and aware than ever before of world events.

    To even mention the word ‘conjecture’ in public discussion is both an embarrassment to herself and insulting to the public.

  189. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m having trouble processing this.

    Instead of feathering its own nest and its delegates rorting free piss for life from building site managers, the CFMEU almost, almost, seems to be publicly displaying an interest in actual and prospective mining jobs.

    If – IF – this is true, then………. *ahem*

    Well done, CFMEU. There, I said it. I know the unions have a knack for playing the long game, but still.

  190. cohenite

    So Sheridan will be a Christian today, ardern will cover herself in crucifixes and every media outlet and politician will disparage the religion of pieces.

  191. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Moment of Zen.
    Just as fascism was Marxism applied to a national group identity, so we can complete the analogy into a full circle by noting that the envy and hatred of the successful by leftist Progressives is simply rascism applied to an economic group identity. In both cases, once you’ve mentally relocated all your own shortcomings onto an other, attacking that other becomes the solution to all your problems.

    Hope I didn’t oversell it.

  192. thefrollickingmole

    The stupidest thing you will read all week, condensed into twit form..

    https://twitter.com/AndyWestTV/status/1119898964772446210

    Andy West
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    There is no excuse for terror attacks against innocent people but as a journalist I saw Western Christian missionaries unscrupulpusly converting Buddhist orphans for food and shelter after the Asian tsunami. Don’t send your prayers. #SriLankaBlasts

    So let me unpick this.
    M**slims blew up Christians because some Christians tried to convert Buddhists after the Asian tsunami?

    Another attendee of the mirror man school of facts.

  193. Armadillo

    the CFMEU almost, almost, seems to be publicly displaying an interest in actual and prospective mining jobs.

    Nah. The CFMEU is trying to dispel the notion that “Bill is bed with the unions”.

    Its simply a trick to allay voter fears (that is probably polling/survey driven). The wuckers will get thrown under a bus the minute Bill is confirmed as PM.

  194. Armadillo

    I see that Sinc has doxed Jesus with his latest banner.

  195. Nick

    To think that a Facebook post about drunks and gays has had more media examination and outrage than 300 people being blown up during Easter.

  196. Speedbox

    This morning on Ch 7 a newsreader referred to the election of a former comedian in “war torn Syria“.

    In the meantime, the backdrop showed assorted cyrillic writing and cheering Ukranians.

    Totally unaware and no subsequent correction.

  197. max

    Why is Ablett being booed at the MCG ? Support for Israel Folau ? The idiocy spreads.

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