Monday Forum: April 22, 2019

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Gary
    3 hours ago
    Soon is the winter of our discontent Made glorious summer by this son of Hawke; And all the carbon clouds that lour’d upon our house In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.
    Now are our brows bound with victorious Greens; Our tattooed arms Get Up for emoluments;
    Our stern alarums changed to Me Too meetings,
    Our dreadful marches to virtuos measures.
    Julia-visaged war hath smooth’d his wrinkled front;
    And now, instead of mounting barded steeds To fright the souls of fearful adversaries,
    He capers nimbly in the AWU lady’s chamber To the lascivious pleasing of a fluke.
    Apologies to Will

    Commentor, on the Oz website..

  2. mh

    I’m still here

    So is Is lam

  3. Pedro the Ignorant

    Lower order batsman in the team.

    I’ll bring the sandpaper.

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump wins again.

    Iran’s Ayatollah Khamenei replaces IRGC commander

    A day after a high level Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps internal security commander was removed, Iran also replaced Mohammed Ali Jafari with Hossein Salami. It appears to be a major shakeup at the top of the IRGC and likely indicates that rumors of internal scandals are accurate.

    It appears that other positions may be in flux within the IRGC. The IRGC is also in the spotlight after the US designated it a terrorist organization.

    Seeing that the IRGC controls something like a third of the Iranian economy it’s fun that the guys at the top are now being booted by Herr Supreme Leader. Suffering in the wallet are we?

  5. mizaris

    Pot luck – top 10!!

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump wins again.

    Iran’s Ayatollah Khamenei replaces IRGC commander

    A day after a high level Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps internal security commander was removed, Iran also replaced Moh ammed Ali Jafari with Hossein Salami. It appears to be a major shakeup at the top of the IRGC and likely indicates that rumors of internal scandals are accurate.

    It appears that other positions may be in flux within the IRGC. The IRGC is also in the spotlight after the US designated it a terrorist organization.

    Seeing that the IRGC controls something like a third of the Iranian economy it’s fun that the guys at the top are now being booted by Herr Supreme Leader. Suffering in the wallet are we?

  7. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump wins again.

    Iran’s Ayatollah Khamenei replaces IRGC commander

    A day after a high level Isla mic Revolutionary Guard Corps internal security commander was removed, Iran also replaced Mohammed Ali Jafari with Hossein Salami. It appears to be a major shakeup at the top of the IRGC and likely indicates that rumors of internal scandals are accurate.

    It appears that other positions may be in flux within the IRGC. The IRGC is also in the spotlight after the US designated it a terrorist organization.

    Seeing that the IRGC controls something like a third of the Iranian economy it’s fun that the guys at the top are now being booted by Herr Supreme Leader. Suffering in the wallet are we?

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump wins again.

    Iran’s Ayatollah Khamenei replaces IRGC commander

    A day after a high level Isla mic Revolutionary Guard Corps internal security commander was removed, Iran also replaced Moh ammed Ali Jafari with Hossein Salami. It appears to be a major shakeup at the top of the IRGC and likely indicates that rumors of internal scandals are accurate.

    It appears that other positions may be in flux within the IRGC. The IRGC is also in the spotlight after the US designated it a terr orist organization.

    Seeing that the IRGC controls something like a third of the Iranian economy it’s fun that the guys at the top are now being booted by Herr Supreme Leader. Suffering in the wallet are we?

  9. John Constantine

    To their abc, journalism is now simply checking their mobile phones for helpful things to type out and speak to power.

    Taxfunded.

    Comrades.

  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zali Steggall has hit the 1000 volunteer milestone as Tony Abbott becomes favourite for Warringah
    Ben James, Manly Daily
    April 22, 2019 3:00am
    Subscriber only

    Zali Steggall has welcomed the 1000th volunteer to her ranks as she attempts to break the record for the biggest first time independent campaign.

    Her turquoise team has been unmistakeable across Warringah in the last few weeks as her battle against Tony Abbott hots up.

    “You hope that your campaign is going to be supported by the local community when you start but you never know,” the Olympian said.

    “But the support I have received has been fantastic. It is exciting and everyone feels like they are part of something and making a real difference.”

    The Independent candidate hit the 1000 volunteer milestone midweek with some 2700 supporters also signed up to her website.

    While she appears to have the edge on her opponent in terms of volunteers, the latest odds suggest Mr Abbott has his nose in front.

    Last Friday, Sportsbet had Mr Abbott as favourite at $1.60 with Ms Steggall at $2.30. Just 10 days ago Ms Steggall was at $1.66 and Mr Abbott $2.15.

  11. vicki

    Iran’s Ayatollah Khamenei replaces IRGC commander

    I wonder what has happened to Qassem Suleimani? He was at the forefront of Iran’s involvement in the struggle against ISIS & affiliates in Iraq & Syria since 2014 & is said to have been instrumental in persuading Putin to enter the fray in defence of Assad’s (& Russia’s) interests. Infrequent photos of him from the last few years show someone who seems older than his years (62) – not surprising given the length of his military service.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle

    Zali Steggall has welcomed the 1000th volunteer to her ranks

    Z is for Zombie Army.

  13. Beachcomber

    The ABC have decided who is responsible for the massacre of Christians in Sri Lanka. It is right wing white extremists.
    If Mozlems are involved, it is only because they are understandably responding to the Christchurch shootings by right wing white extremists.

  14. Dr Faustus

    Seeing that the IRGC controls something like a third of the Iranian economy it’s fun that the guys at the top are now being booted by Herr Supreme Leader. Suffering in the wallet are we?

    Starting Monday, apparently:

    The United States is expected to announce on Monday that all buyers of Iranian oil will have to end their imports shortly or face sanctions, a source familiar with the situation told Reuters, triggering about a 3 percent rise in crude prices.

    And given this impacts Iran’s remaining big buyers – China, India, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Turkey, Italy and Greece – you would have to view this as Iran changing gear for some increased state-sponsored terrorism.

  15. jupes

    The ABC have decided who is responsible for the massacre of Christians in Sri Lanka. It is right wing white extremists.

    Actually Buddhists are being blamed for picking on the Mo lovers.

    No seriously.

  16. dover_beach

    Neuroscientists can read brain activity to predict decisions 11 seconds before people act

    The article indicates a far more modest achievement.

  17. vicki

    Zali Steggall has welcomed the 1000th volunteer to her ranks

    Her “volunteers” have been extremely aggressive in their campaigning & have alienated a lot of voters – particularly older ones.

    On the other hand, this lower north shore precinct is teeming with “progressives”, whose critical faculties are greatly diminished by “affluenza”.

  18. OldOzzie

    rickw
    #2994651, posted on April 22, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    More on paradise lost:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4sXtjcqV_IA

    rickw,

    thanks for that, as someone who spent a lot of time visiting retired friends in Cairns in 80s/90s, like when I first went to Cairns in the 70s

    Noted the number of utes and vans and horror of horrors, piece of garbage vehicle I owned once, a 1957 Hillman Minx at 11 mins 14 secs

  19. Rabid Koala

    Sri Lanka once again proves that multiculturalism leads to violence. If people of the same race cannot even overcome cultural differences what hope is there for Australia?

  20. Baldrick

    The Uni-Party in lockstep, again …

    Nine News Australia ✔ @9NewsAUS
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Labor leader Bill Shorten have both said they are open to bringing Sharrouf’s surviving children back to Australia

  21. Tel

    On the other hand, this lower north shore precinct is teeming with “progressives”, whose critical faculties are greatly diminished by “affluenza”.

    If too much affluence is the disease then I’m sure Greens and Labor can solve that for us.

  22. jupes

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Labor leader Bill Shorten have both said they are open to bringing Sharrouf’s surviving children back to Australia

    Too stupid to survive.

    The eldest one actually owned slaves.

  23. Jupes:

    Actually Buddhists are being blamed for picking on the Mo lovers.

    No seriously.

    They do this every time someone kicks back after the latest bombing.
    Every Bloody Time.
    Just look at the Rohingya. They’ve been kicking the neighbours around for years, and finally the Buddhists have kicked back. The Rohingya, of course, have now defaulted to the victim mode.
    Same in Bosnia – kick the neighbours, wail when they kick back, perform like a victim and rest until their women’s wombs alter the balance of power.

  24. calli

    The eldest one actually owned slaves.

    Is she dead? I think these were the youngest.

  25. Ellie

    MV. Are you ok? Tough night last night.

  26. mh

    On This Day…
    Apr 22, 1997: Haouch Khemisti, Algeria
    Villagers massacred by Isl amic fundamentalists: 93 Killed

    Courtesy https://www.thereligionofpeace.com

  27. Roger

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Labor leader Bill Shorten have both said they are open to bringing Sharrouf’s surviving children back to Australia

    Meanwhile, IS supporters are reportedly gloating on social media over the Sri Lankan bombings, suggesting the group may be about to claim responsibility for the attacks.

    It’s fair to assume these children have been deeply radicalised and views formed in childhood are deeply rooted. Deradicalisation? Experts debate its effectiveness.

    The duty of Messrs. Morrison & Shorten is to put Australian children before IS children.

  28. pete m

    Lol 28

    Did you not work for 20 years in your profession?

    On politics, senate is sorted but hor will vote for local member who was the vote which caused the last spill motion, despite misgivings. I just cannot vote labor or greens, ever. And I don’t give a shit what MV thinks.

  29. stackja

    Have MSM lost interest in Sri Lanka yet?

  30. mh

    Pauline Hanson telling it like it is (video)

    Pauline Hanson 🇦🇺
    @PaulineHansonOz
    ·
    4h
    I’m sorry Bill, but if you want to be a leader in this country, you need to be able to call this terror attack in Sri Lanka out for what it is. It’s an attack on Christianity by a fundamentalist Islamic group. -PH
    https://twitter.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/1120138391851421697?s=20

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Greg Brown
    AN HOUR AGO | 2.37pm
    ‘I’ll hire the best lawyers to lift wages’: Shorten

    Bill Shorten tells workers at Cairns Hospital he will hire the “best lawyers in the country” to argue for wage increases to the Fair Work Commission.

    The Opposition Leader talked up his plans to bolster the wages of low paid workers, including by increasing penalty rates.

    “This country works best when working and middle class people get a fair go,” Mr Shorten said.

    “Everything has been going up except your wages.

    “We are becoming less equal and everything is still going up and going up.

    “We are putting forward a wages policy for the nation.”

    Mr Shorten said the “current Prime Minister” voted against reversing cuts to penalty rates eight times.

    One worker yelled: “shame”.

    From the Oz. No lawyer will live in poverty under a Shorten Government.

  32. stackja

    Roger – Some believe IS children are human beings and deserve care.

  33. mh

    Pauline Hanson telling it like it is (video)

    Pauline Hanson 🇦🇺
    @PaulineHansonOz
    ·
    4h
    I’m sorry Bill, but if you want to be a leader in this country, you need to be able to call this terror attack in Sri Lanka out for what it is. It’s an attack on Christianity by a fundamentalist Isl amic group. -PH
    https://twitter.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/1120138391851421697?s=20

  34. calli

    They are Australian children.

    I don’t want them back either because I fear what they will become. However I suspect that we are legally obliged to take them. They come from a wealthy family. I don’t want to be paying for their passage.

  35. calli

    Pauline. Cut it out with the Hate Speech.

    Someone will faint.

  36. jupes

    Is she dead? I think these were the youngest.

    No. There is a 17 year old girl, a 16 year old girl and a younger boy.

    The 17 year old has two kids of her own now and is pregnant with another. No doubt she is missing her slaves in the refugee camp, so bringing them back to Australia is the only compassionate thing to do.

  37. jupes

    Is she dead? I think these were the youngest.

    No. There is a 17 year old girl, a 16 year old girl and a younger boy.

    The 17 year old has two kids of her own now and is pregnant with another. No doubt she is missing her slaves in the refugee camp, so bringing them back to Australia is the only compassionate thing to do.

    (Okay I can’t link to the ABC story because there is a banned word in the link.)

  38. Notafan

    The Elomar connection is for the oldest girl and one grandchild only, not all of them.

    There was an Elomar or two on DSP despite the partriach being a multi millionaire.

    Still you’d think they could do something for them.

    They may well be indoctrinated but more so than their lucky cousins and half siblings etc
    that never left Oz?

    I can’t see them being worse, and they do have an non muslim grandmother who is their guardian.

    Living in hope

  39. jupes

    I’m sorry Bill, but if you want to be a leader in this country, you need to be able to call this terror attack in Sri Lanka out for what it is.

    This is self-evident bullshit. More like the exact opposite.

  40. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They come from a wealthy family. I don’t want to be paying for their passage.

    Well, let their family organize home schooling, and whatever deradicalization programmes are necessary. They can start with an agreement that the revolting brats will never, but never, be a cost on the Australian taxpayer.

  41. Bruce of Newcastle

    Poor Pauline. She sees things in simplistic terms. Like the kid observing that sartorial emperor guy.

  42. jupes

    Roger – Some believe IS children are human beings and deserve care.

    So place compassion ahead of security and the national interest.

    Traitorous scumbags.

  43. calli

    Thanks, jupes.

    They look like they’ll fit right in.

    And, handily, they are just under “adult” legal age. Seventeen going on seventy.

  44. Notafan

    Are you sure the oldest had slaves Jupes?

    Their father and her ‘husband’ had sex slaves from all accounts, but a girl married off at thirteen and a mother at fourteen is a victim.

  45. jupes

    They look like they’ll fit right in.

    Yeah, to Fairfield where they no doubt will end up.

  46. Roger

    However I suspect that we are legally obliged to take them.

    I strongly suspect they are citizens of Lebanon via their father through jus sanguinis, in which case their Australian citizenship could be legally revoked.

    Be that as may be, talk of bringing them home before any investigation into the views they hold has been undertaken is premature. Both Shorten and Morrison have changed their views on this without offering any rationale, which suggests the influence of “focus group” results may be a factor, which is a ridiculous way to approach such a serious matter.

  47. jupes

    Their father and her ‘husband’ had sex slaves from all accounts, but a girl married off at thirteen and a mother at fourteen is a victim.

    No, the wives had slaves to do the chores.

  48. Mark A

    stackja
    #2994685, posted on April 22, 2019 at 3:40 pm

    Roger – Some believe IS children are human beings and deserve care.

    No doubt, they are, but are we care for all of them?

  49. jupes

    It’s fair to assume these children have been deeply radicalised and views formed in childhood are deeply rooted. Deradicalisation? Experts debate its effectiveness.

    The only “experts” who reckon it’s effective are the people from the Religion of Peace who get paid the big bucks courtesy of the tax-payer to run the programs.

    A scam that only a western government is stupid enough to fall for.

  50. calli

    Yes, jupes. I was four when my parents moved from Cabramatta. Blue collar, respectable, with a cohort of New Australians market gardening the rich shale soil.

    Then the Vietnamese.

    And now The Daleks.

    Cultural regression in a single suburb.

  51. Notafan

    The timeline doesn’t work Jupes.

    The slaves all escaped by 2015

    yadizi slaves were well away by then

  52. Notafan

    The yadizi women articles were appearing in newspapers in may 2015, before tara Nettleton died I think

  53. Mitch M.

    The article indicates a far more modest achievement.

    Of course it does, that science news headlines for you. The claim doesn’t discount the possibility of free will, at least for me. I have no problem with the idea that most of our decisions are “bottom up” but that does not require a loss of free will. Even Libet acknowledged a free will “not to do”. Not the place to explain my idea here Dover Beach but I can conceive of some neurobiology which allows for modification of “bottom up” processes via top down modulation. Not so much in the immediate decision making sense but in our ability to modify our responses over time. The conscious-unconscious dichotomy is just plain wrong.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Their father and her ‘husband’ had sex slaves from all accounts, but a girl married off at thirteen and a mother at fourteen is a victim.

    She must have missed Yassminn Axel Magpies remarks about how Izlom was ‘the most feminist of religions? surely?

  55. Roger

    No doubt, they are, but are we care for all of them?

    The Sharrouf children are but the tip of the iceberg; there are believed to be 70 IS children in the camps with Australian origins. A platoon in the making, since IS children were raised to be warriors.

  56. stackja

    IS children reminds of earlier regimes that created offspring who were brainwashed to follow the establishment views of life.

  57. struth

    Letting moozy parents know they can go and fight against christians and the west and if by chance they get killed those very same people will look after their kids until they too can fight for allah ………is not a deterrent.
    It’s actually an incentive for sandmonkeys to continue killing.

  58. Notafan

    Syria was muslim versus muslim and still is.

    Christians were to be elimated.

    I’m not saying those children do not present a risk, but more of a risk than similarly indoctrinated children here?

    I’m not convinced, especially as most are under the age of five.

  59. Notafan:

    I can’t see them being worse, and they do have an non muslim grandmother who is their guardian.

    Didn’t this gran have a lot to do with subverting the process to keep these kids in Australia?

  60. Michael Lewis

    On a different matter. Do the owners of tunnels and motorways in NSW, get a percentage of the fines? It seems that the Cross City Tunnel in Sydney leaves (virtually hidden 40km/hr) changes long after the cause has gone. An empty tunnel, with all of the green lights on, BUT a photo camera set at 40Km/hr with disastrous effect to the poor drivers – who carefully drive at less than 80Km/Hr. Severest speeding fine of $880 – points AND 3 months license suspension. Normal safe drivers are treated as dangerous lunatics. I’m wondering if there is a financial incentive involved.

  61. Notafan

    Syria was is m versus m.

    Christians were a mere irritant.

    Most of the children of is parents must be under five surely ?

    Can’t see them as a greater risk than the many radicalised in Australia like the Raads and the elomars.

  62. Notafan:

    Can’t see them as a greater risk than the many radicalised in Australia like the Raads and the elomars.

    Perhaps a referendum at the next elections?

  63. struth

    You ladies are going to lament being with western men.
    All they wanted us to do was to metaphorically get back in the kitchen, to think twice before opening our traps and not to go off half cocked.
    But no, we couldn’t do it.
    These lamentations will be known as the

    Burka lament.

  64. jupes

    The slaves all escaped by 2015

    LOL

    You idiot.

  65. stackja

    struth – MSM won’t allow a reasonable discussion. Alerting people to the dangers of returning IS children will be suppressed.

  66. Knuckle Dragger

    A mother at 14 years of age in a shithouse muesli-run desert where you compete for food with legions of shade-seeking sand spiders is only a ‘victim’ by 21st century Western civilised standards. To these Stone Age death cultists it’s probably a bit late.

    The blame and responsibility for this admittedly shit state of affairs rests solely with the parents who dragged them there in the first place. If they had slaves, whether in 2015 or later, it indicates a belief that other people are duty-bent to do their work for them, for nothing.

    Bringing these spawn to this country is stupid and dangerous. It is not compassionate.

    If you put a mulga snake in a reptile display at two months of age where it is fed and watered and grows to adulthood, then let it out in a supermarket shopping centre because you feel sorry for it, the mulga snake will revert to being a cold blooded predator and do what it is ingrained to do.

    That is, to bite people on the face until it is killed.

  67. Notafan

    Not this boring shtick again.

    From the man who doesn’t know the protagonists in Syria.

    WS.

    Should be case by case basis.

    We should be honest though to admit the biggest threat is adults living here and we are still tolerating hate preachers in notorious mosques and ‘youth centres’

  68. struth

    Seems some need to be read the “SNAKE” by D Trump again.

  69. Knuckle Dragger

    Baldrick, 12.39pm, OF;

    That voluminous POS Payne knows goddamn well who’s responsible for the Sri Lanka bombings, killing 290 and injuring 500.

    The Australian public are, in general terms, more informed and aware than ever before of world events.

    To even mention the word ‘conjecture’ in public discussion is both an embarrassment to herself and insulting to the public.

  70. Notafan

    Well they will come home whether we like it or not.

    I just don’t see them as a big a concern than the jihadi mills operating in our country.

  71. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m having trouble processing this.

    Instead of feathering its own nest and its delegates rorting free piss for life from building site managers, the CFMEU almost, almost, seems to be publicly displaying an interest in actual and prospective mining jobs.

    If – IF – this is true, then………. *ahem*

    Well done, CFMEU. There, I said it. I know the unions have a knack for playing the long game, but still.

  72. struth

    When an organisation wants you dead you don’t bring its members in to live with you.
    Full stop.

  73. jupes

    Can’t see them as a greater risk than the many radicalised in Australia like the Raads and the elomars.

    So what? They still are a huge risk.

    As demonstrated here by notafan, we are so stupid as country that we would rather put Australians at risk than be seen to be uncaring. Not only that, any so-called deradicalisation will not require them to give up Is*l*m. Hell we’ll even let the evil bints continue to wear the niqab.

    Too. Stupid. To. Survive.

  74. mh

    The Pope needs to identify the enemy that wants them all dead:

    …In a special appeal at the end, Francis lamented the “grave attacks” on Sri Lankan hotels and churches, which occurred just as the Christian faithful were celebrating Easter Mass that marks the resurrection of Christ following his crucifixion.

    “I want to express my loving closeness to the Christian community, targeted while they were gathered in prayer, and all the victims of such cruel violence,” Francis said. “I entrust to the Lord all those who were tragically killed and pray for the injured and all those who are suffering as a result of this dramatic event.”

  75. Leo G

    Z is for Zombie Army

    Lazi’s Eggstall scramble.

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    Yep, that’s the spirit.

    We have some death wish 7th Century punters in this country whose idea of a good time is decapitating people who believe women shouldn’t drive.

    The hell with it. We know there are some others who left a while ago, but despite knowing they share the same ideology and have already demonstrated they can breed let’s bring them back as well.

    Oh, and we’ll pay for them not only to do it, but to sustain them for the remainder of their worthless lives and those of their children, and theirs and so on.

    Might as well drive your new car off a cliff because it’s got a cracked windscreen.

  77. stackja

    Who created IS? BO/HRC?

  78. mh

    Sri Lanka

    Two Australians have died

    Australian prime minister Scott Morrison has told media that two Australians have died.

  79. Roger

    It is accepted that the prime duty of a democratic government to protect its citizens.

    Following that, the government should explore every avenue, including legislation, to prevent the return of these children if they present a likely future risk to the safety of Australians (and knowing what we know about IS I think the benefit of any doubt should fall on innocent Australians rather than these children).

    Compassion simply doesn’t enter in to government deliberations on security matters.

  80. Speedbox

    This morning on Ch 7 a newsreader referred to the election of a former comedian in “war torn Syria“.

    In the meantime, the backdrop showed assorted cyrillic writing and cheering Ukranians.

    Totally unaware and no subsequent correction.

  81. Top Ender

    Just called into the service station on the way home and filled up with fossil fuel.

    Total time: 2 minutes 30 seconds.

    Try that you electric car maniacs.

    BTW, didn’t have to wait 30 minutes or an hour for a “charger” to be free.

    That is all.

  82. Rabid Koala

    Roger – Some believe IS children are human beings and deserve care.

    They can receive care over there.

    Can’t see them as a greater risk than the many radicalised in Australia like the Raads and the elomars.

    Good call. We need to deport the raads and the elamors too

  83. C.L.

    Is the new blog banner pic a real splattered statue from Sri Lanka?

  84. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Case by case basis’

    OK, let’s try that on for size.

    Interviewer: ‘What do you think about Australian values?’
    17 year old mother of future jihadis and former slave owner: ‘Death to all that insult Is-‘
    Interviewer: ‘Access denied.’

    Job done. Repeat as often as necessary.

  85. Mark A

    Top Ender
    #2994751, posted on April 22, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    Just called into the service station on the way home and filled up with fossil fuel.

    BTW, didn’t have to wait 30 minutes or an hour for a “charger” to be free.

    Oh but it’s not like that, It will resemble a drive in with hundreds of charging stations, and an 8 minute charge time.

    You know it is so, Bill told us, and he is a politician.

  86. Rabid Koala

    We should be honest though to admit the biggest threat is adults living here and we are still tolerating hate preachers in notorious mosques and ‘youth centres’

    Well they will come home whether we like it or not.

    I just don’t see them as a big a concern than the jihadi mills operating in our country.

    The solution to m uslim ter rorists is not to invite in more potential t errorists, the solution is to kick out the ones currently here and prevent any more from ever coming here.

  87. Mark A

    C.L.
    #2994756, posted on April 22, 2019 at 4:56 pm

    Good God. Yes it is.

    Some of the bombs must have been huge to cause that kind of damage.
    Hard to imagine a suicide bomb could be that massive without detection.

  88. jupes

    It is accepted that the prime duty of a democratic government to protect its citizens.

    Not any more. Otherwise we would ban immigration from the RoP.

    Following that, the government should explore every avenue, including legislation, to prevent the return of these children if they present a likely future risk to the safety of Australians (and knowing what we know about IS I think the benefit of any doubt should fall on innocent Australians rather than these children).

    If? You have doubt? Unless we ban the RoP there will always be a risk.

    Compassion simply doesn’t enter in to government deliberations on security matters.

    If only this were so.

  89. mh

    C.L.
    #2994753, posted on April 22, 2019 at 4:55 pm
    Is the new blog banner pic a real splattered statue from Sri Lanka?

    Sinc telling it like it is.

    Miranda Devine has a new article about Christians being the most persecuted. If anyone can post it here, thanks.

  90. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘they will come whether we like it or not’

    Bloody hell Nota. You are front and centre in both groups these people want to have removed from this Earth, ‘like it nor not’. You are female, and you are a Christian.

    If these people were in charge you wouldn’t be allowed outside without hubby or a male rello by your side, and if you so much as looked at another man you’d be buried up to your neck, and the rest of the population of your decrepit village would then peg stones at you until your skull fractured and you’d die slowly with ants conveyor-belting into your broken mouth, nose, ears and eyes.

    Now – you can martyr yourself and potentially, in 200 years or so, become St, Nota of I Didn’t Think It Would Really Happen To Me but I for one have women in this country that I care about, and will fight to the death to see that not happen to them.

    And that’s just one element of this Stone Age death cult that needs to be stamped out wherever it is found.

    But hey, knock yourself out.

  91. P

    Rugby Australia has today confirmed the Code of Conduct hearing for Wallabies and Waratahs back Israel Folau will commence on Saturday 4 May.

  92. C.L.

    WTF?

    Before the press conference, Morrison had participated in a minute’s silence at the Berwick [Buddhist] Temple. “I’m pleased that we were able to be here with the Sri Lankan community here in Berwick,” he said to media. “Full of hope, full of grace, full of community, and that is the right way to respond the the acts of hate and violence that we’ve seen in Sri Lanka.”

    It seems the victims weren’t Catholics. Just mystery brown people.
    Morrison also announce that DFAT has updated travel advice re Sri Lanka.
    What would we do without gubbermint?

  93. Knuckle Dragger

    Rugby Australia still cognisant of the value of penalty rates, I see.

    ‘Hmm. Footballs for a junior club in Cobar, or time and a half plus allowances for me for weekend work? Could stretch it into Sunday for double time, too.’

    Zanetti nailed it (ha!) this morning btw.

  94. Knuckle Dragger

    Rugby Australia still cognisant of the value of penalty rates, I see.

    ‘Hmm. Footb#lls for a junior club in Cobar, or time and a half plus allowances for me for weekend work? Could stretch it into Sunday for double time, too.’

    Zanetti nailed it (ha!) this morning btw.

  95. Knuckle Dragger

    Hmm. Twice this week I’ve forgotten about that.

    The punter that designed the spaminator algorithm has b#lls the size of hundreds ‘n’ thousands.

  96. Top Ender

    Here you go MH. No link as it’s paywalled.

    Sri Lanka attacks prove Christians are most persecuted in the world
    Miranda Devine, The Daily Telegraph
    April 22, 2019 9:36am

    It’s tragic news that Christians attending Easter Sunday services in Sri Lanka have been murdered by suicide bombers.

    But it should come as no surprise. Christians are the most persecuted of any faith around the world, and in Sri Lanka, where they are minority, the warning signs have come thick and fast this year.

    In yesterday’s attack at least 207 people were killed and more than 500 injured in explosions at three churches and three five-star hotels. The blasts occurred as Easter Sunday services were under way.

    No one yet has claimed responsibility but “returning Islamic State terrorists” have been reported as posing a threat. Earlier this year authorities seized a large cache of explosives at an IS training camp.

    But anti-Christian feeling has been running high in Sri Lanka all year, with reports that almost every Sunday there has been some sort of disruption at a Christian worship service, whether people causing disruption, shouting obscenities, or assault, death threats and damage to property.

    On Palm Sunday, for instance, Christians attending a prayer meeting at Koombichchankulam Methodist Centre for the disabled in Anuradhapura were pelted with stones and burning firecrackers by an abusive anti-Christian mob.

    Sadly, we live in a world in which 11 Christians are killed each day for practising a peaceful religion which commands them to love their neighbour. Sri Lankans are the latest martyrs for their faith.

  97. Rossini

    struth
    #2994716, posted on April 22, 2019 at 4:19 pm

    I agree with your sentiments entirely

  98. egg_

    Record Breaking Rainfall for Far Western NSW

    Easter Sunday brought record-breaking rainfall to the Upper Western and Riverina regions of far western NSW as a trough and front duo move across the state.

    A combined trough and frontal system moving east across Australia reached far western NSW early Easter Sunday morning. Here it mixed with humid easterly winds that had been flowing in from the Tasman Sea, resulting in upper-level instability and therefore thunderstorms and rainfall; some of the only rain seen this month for many towns.

    The Upper Western and Riverina regions were the worst affected with 37mm of rainfall at Cobar Airport, breaking a 16 year old record, 26mm for Tiboobura, a previous 12 year record and 47mm falling in Griffith today, a 5 year old record. That is almost double the average rainfall for Griffith during the month of April (27mm average). Over 100,000 lightning strikes were also recorded within a 200km radius of Wilcannia.

    This heavy deluge has resulted in some minor flooding, with Minor Flood Warnings issued for the Paroo River at Willara Crossing and for the Warrego River at Fords Bridge Bywash in the Upper Western region.

    As the frontal system passes, the trough looks to shift over NSW’s east, as a high pressure system moves in from the west. This should see warm temperatures dominate throughout the week for the far west, with some cooler mornings as cloud cover dissipates.

  99. candy

    “Full of hope, full of grace, full of community, and that is the right way to respond the the acts of hate and violence that we’ve seen in Sri Lanka.”

    Might be more helpful if PM Morrison told us who are the bombers and if Christians in any country are at risk due to Islamic extremists or is he saying it was Buddhists who were targeted and it’s a Sri Lankan issue only and the Tamils did the bombing, and it’s not the Buddhists who did the bombings.
    Most confusing.

  100. dover_beach

    Of course it does, that science news headlines for you. The claim doesn’t discount the possibility of free will, at least for me. I have no problem with the idea that most of our decisions are “bottom up” but that does not require a loss of free will. Even Libet acknowledged a free will “not to do”. Not the place to explain my idea here Dover Beach but I can conceive of some neurobiology which allows for modification of “bottom up” processes via top down modulation. Not so much in the immediate decision making sense but in our ability to modify our responses over time. The conscious-unconscious dichotomy is just plain wrong.

    I don’t disagree with any of this at all. I’d add that when they say ‘conscious’ they would appear to mean ‘self-conscious’.

  101. Overburdened

    Rabid koala

    If you wander up to Jaffna, it’s a short drift across to Tamil Nardoo roughly translated as home of the Tamils.

    This explains why the Tamils decided to cross the Andaman Sea and proceed through Thailand, Malaysia and on to Indonesia to get on a boat as paying customers to travel a few thousand clicks to get to Australia.

  102. Bruce of Newcastle

    Earth Day today! Which means a composting story…

    Washington state could become first state to allow human composting

    Washington state lawmakers on Friday passed a bill that would allow residents to take part in “natural organic reduction” of human remains, citing in part research that said careful composted human remains could be safe for use in a household garden, reports said.

    Maybe they got the idea from Footfall by Niven and Pournelle, where a green activist murders and composts a fellow activist who was going to betray the heroes to the aliens…which all takes place in Bellingham, Washington.

    Or maybe they had in mind the heroic founder of Earth Day, Ira Einhorn…

    FLASHBACK: Earth Day Co-Founder Killed, Composted His Girlfriend (22 Apr 2018)

    Here’s an inconvenient truth about a self-described co-founder of Earth Day: he murdered and composted his girlfriend.

    Environmental activist and self-proclaimed Earth Day co-founder Ira Einhorn had a dark side. Einhorn was found guilty of murdering his ex-girlfriend and stuffing her “composted” body inside a trunk, NBC News reported in 2011.

    Maddux went missing after going out to the neighborhood co-op to buy tofu and sprouts, Einhorn told police several weeks later. However, 18 months later, authorities searched his apartment after neighbors complained that a “reddish-brown, foul-smelling liquid was leaking from the ceiling directly below Einhorn’s bedroom closet,” NBC News reported.

    Never go out for tofu and sprouts on Earth Day, you might get composted.

  103. candy

    PM Morrison is indicating Buddhists are at risk?

  104. BrettW

    I guess Shorten did not hire the best lawyers in the country when he did his Union deal to sell out the penalty rates of the cleaners and mushroom workers he represented.

    Meanwhile the Shoppies Union remains quiet after selling out Coles and Woolies workers for years. So much so that one of their own Union members took them to court over the Coles deal.

    PS. If I had the time I would be driving up Qld ahead of the convoy of job killers suggesting all petrol station owners show their loyalty to the state by refusing to serve the petrol guzzling convoy.

  105. Mitch M.

    I don’t disagree with any of this at all. I’d add that when they say ‘conscious’ they would appear to mean ‘self-conscious’.

    To throw a spanner in our works. A few days ago a research piece claimed they had found how anesthetics works. Nothing to do with the neocortex, all about neuroendocrine cells. That is an example of how difficult it is to think about the neurobiology underpinning consciousness.

  106. Overburdened

    On a sane planet, the Buddhists would clear out the Tamils and others.

    It would then be even more remarkable.

    Imagine the international outcry.

  107. BrettW

    No problem with Morrison being religious but not a good look allowing press to cover him inside his church.

  108. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Pope Francis tells teenage climate activist to carry on fight

    By Tess Livingstone
    2 hours ago April 22, 2019
    No Comments

    John Paul II would probably have told her and her fellow protesters to get back to school. But Pope Francis has encouraged Swedish teenage activist Greta Thunberg, 16, figurehead of the international “school strike for climate’’ campaign, to carry on.

    “Continue, continue,” Francis told Ms Thunberg, Vatican media reported. “Go on, go ahead.” She was seated in the VIP front row of the Pontiff’s weekly audience in St Peter’s Square on Wednesday last week.

    When Francis approached her after his address she showed off her “Join the climate strike” sign for the cameras.

    Ms Thunberg told Francis: “Thank you for standing up for the climate, for speaking the truth. It means a lot.”

    On Good Friday, Ms Thunberg joined a “Fridays for Future’’ protest at the Piazza del Popolo square in Rome, which organisers claimed attracted 25,000 demonstrators. Most of the crowd were students, whose schools and universities were closed for Easter.

    “I do many small things just to change my habits, like I have become vegan, I have stopped flying,’’ Ms Thunberg told the crowd. “I have stopped shopping and small things like that.

    “We children are not sacrificing our education and our childhood for the adults and politicians to tell us what they consider is politically possible in the society they have created.’’

    From the Oz.

  109. Overburdened

    The Tamils attacked the tooth temple in Kandy, one of the generally safest and most welcoming places where I have spent time.

    The Buddhists were sitting ducks and the Tamils are execrable.

    The unmentionables are the same everywhere.

  110. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Some of the bombs must have been huge to cause that kind of damage.
    Hard to imagine a suicide bomb could be that massive without detection.

    Indeed. Security seems to have been very lax from the start, given they were told trouble was coming.

  111. Notafan:

    Should be case by case basis.

    This is what we’ve got now, with special pleading and heartrending sob stories filling the airwaves.
    The lawyers are making a mint, and the activists are getting to the point of deciding our foreign and immigration policies by default.
    “Every case is different.” Every case is an opportunity for Leftists to virtue signal about themselves whilst giving them free kicks at our democratic institutions.
    They will never give up while we leave the sugar on the table for them to steal.

  112. Knuckle Dragger

    Persackly OB.

    Underestimate the Buddhists at your peril, because they’ll only take so much before it’s on like Donkey Kong. Ask the Rohyinga – they’ve been belting them around for years, and the first time they get a smack in the face back it’s suddenly an international crisis.

    Cameras Sans Frontieres turns up and shows a burnt out hut perpetrated by the dastardly Buddhists, while over the hill horizons’ worth of scorched, denuded Buddhist countryside remains unseen.

  113. Knuckle Dragger

    Which, btw, is exactly the tactic the Crayon Easter unwittingly referred to this morning.

  114. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Australian public are, in general terms, more informed and aware than ever before of world events.

    I wouldn’t bet on that. The coverage of these dreadful bombings has been pretty low key so far.
    It may change now that two Australians have been declared among the dead.
    The usual suspects who were so vocal about Christchurch have gone missing on this so far.

  115. cohenite

    Pauline Hanson telling it like it is (video)

    Pauline Hanson 🇦🇺
    @PaulineHansonOz
    ·
    4h
    I’m sorry Bill, but if you want to be a leader in this country, you need to be able to call this terror attack in Sri Lanka out for what it is. It’s an attack on Christianity by a fundamentalist Islamic group. -PH
    https://twitter.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/1120138391851421697?s=20

    Yep, PHON, Anning, AC and that’s about all for the senate. I really hope Roberts and Anning both get in but they will split their vote.

  116. calli

    You ladies are going to lament being with western men.

    What’s with this “you ladies” shyte?

    What part of my comment at 3.43 didn’t you understand?

  117. Knuckle Dragger

    Hawthorn fans booing Garry Ablett Jnr this afternoon.

    From this I have deduced that all Hawthorn fans are thieves and adulterers.

  118. cohenite

    Forgot about the religion of pieces prohibition:

    Pauline Hanson telling it like it is (video)

    Pauline Hanson 🇦🇺
    @PaulineHansonOz
    ·
    4h
    I’m sorry Bill, but if you want to be a leader in this country, you need to be able to call this terror attack in Sri Lanka out for what it is. It’s an attack on Christianity by a fundamentalist religion of pieces group. -PH
    https://twitter.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/1120138391851421697?s=20

    Yep, PHON, Anning, AC and that’s about all for the senate. I really hope Roberts and Anning both get in but they will split their vote.

  119. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks for the banner up there, Sinc. It stands as a reminder that it is Christians who are under fire.

    The actual photo is on the Cat put up quite a few pages ago. I commented on it earlier, it and others had me in tears. The backdrop to the Christ statue is a wall also splattered with bits of human beings.

  120. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    So many small children killed in this attack too. Vicious.

  121. mh

    Cohenite, as a Qld voter, what’s the deal with voting for Fraser Anning this election?

    Is it Anning on the Senate ballot or someone else in the Fraser Anning party?

    Excuse my ignorance.

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    Lizzie,

    I’d say – in general terms – we’re more informed despite the lack of mainstream coverage.

    Twitter, being a double-edged sword, lets us know who has said what publicly about the bombings, and who hasn’t.

    We also now as a nation know about the presence of a previously little-known terror group we didn’t know about before (certain elements in our country have known about them, of course), much like the general public didn’t know about the Pakistani-trained and financed LET before the Mumbai attacks.

    Because we have alternatives, we can see the blurring the MSM, who still believe we can be drip fed like schoolchildren, still put in place. And more importantly, draw our own conclusions rather than – Pravda-like – be told what to think.

  123. Helen

    There is a story going round that trickerybill wants our assets in the form of a death tax. Or that the greens will demand it if he needs them for power. or that it was talked about and agreed to with enthusiasm at the last ALP shindig.

    What is the real story?

  124. JC

    Helen:

    Bowen, the shadow Treasurer has come out and vehemently denied it suggesting the Libs were creating just nasty rumours.

    This means it’s a sure thing.

  125. Helen

    I see Scomo is skating around the issue. So sure he didnt wait for the facts regarding Christchurch. Now he needs more information before he can sayanything remotely definite re Columbo.

    Pathetic. And he is a bit Justinian with his multi demoninational speed dating Easter attendances. Unfortunately mixed it up by attending a Bhuddist SriLankan show – probs didnt realise it was CHRISTIANS that were blown up and killed.

  126. Helen

    Thanks JC. I cant find any evidence on Google, but knowing them they have scrubbed it clean. Past form.

  127. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oho. Just discovered we are in a new thread. A new universe opens and awaits.
    Good, I could do with a cheer up after Sri Lanka’s nightmare. God knows how they are feeling, if I am feeling so bad about it. Just horrible, what happened there.

    I came in by the back door, through the comments listing, and didn’t notice the date change.

  128. egg_

    Oi Arky, want a brain transplant?

    Scientists restore some functions in a pig’s brain hours after death

    Circulation and cellular activity were restored in a pig’s brain four hours after its death, a finding that challenges long-held assumptions about the timing and irreversible nature of the cessation of some brain functions after death.

  129. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘a reminder that it is Christians under fire’

    Yes it is, Lizzie. Also a reminder that turn-the-other-cheekery, whilst laudable in theory has its limitations in practice.

    The monks at Lindisfarne in 793 were big on that concept. When the Vikings turned up, the monks had all their stuff taken and/or destroyed, and those that weren’t killed were made slaves.

    That sounds familiar for some reason.

    I’m an Old Testament guy myself.

  130. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    This means it’s a sure thing.

    Death duties of some sort are a sure thing eventually for both Parties of tax-grabbers.
    When the country is in debt to this level then a smash and grab raid is the only answer.
    Warlords, all.
    Try hard not to die, and good luck with arrangements for when you do.

  131. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m an Old Testament guy myself.

    Joshua, come on down.

  132. Nick

    ScoMo at a Buddhist temple FMD. Christians Scott, Christians.

  133. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There is a story going round that trickerybill wants our assets in the form of a death tax. Or that the greens will demand it if he needs them for power. or that it was talked about and agreed to with enthusiasm at the last ALP shindig.

    Don’t have a reference, but death duties were part of the Greens platform when Christine Milne was in charge of the fairies at the bottom of the garden. Julian Burnside thinks they are a wonderful idea. Death duties were called for at the last union talk-fest.

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Circulation and cellular activity were restored in a pig’s brain four hours after its death, a finding that challenges long-held assumptions about the timing and irreversible nature of the cessation of some brain functions after death.

    Yep. I am keen on being really truly dead when I am dead, not brain dead.
    My brain has always been very active and will resist shutting down, far worse than shutting up. 🙂

  135. Pedro the Ignorant

    No idea what the real story re ALP/Green 40% death taxes is all about, but I have been flogging it as gospel among the local landed gentry and the wealthier tree changers to ensure none of them will ever vote for the tax-eating rabble.

    I also note with amusement that today is Earth Day (Google banner) after a very pleasant day as a passenger in a little Piper aircraft flying to Bunbury, having a cup of coffee and cake and flying back an hour or so later.

    Might have to turn on all the lights and heaters on tonight just to hear Gaia weep.

  136. calli

    Can any Cats tell me where a Sri Lankan Christian church is in Melbourne?

    Ta.

  137. Tel

    ScoMo at a Buddhist temple FMD.

    The Peanut guy goes around wearing hi-viz pretending to know something about working for a living … and the other guy hangs around a Buddhist temple pretending to be keeping abreast of world affairs. The exquisitely balanced symmetry of ignorance.

    Think of it like a ballet. It probably also helps to bob your head gently from sided to side in time with the stupid.

  138. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No idea what the real story re ALP/Green 40% death taxes is all about, but I have been flogging it as gospel among the local landed gentry and the wealthier tree changers to ensure none of them will ever vote for the tax-eating rabble.

    Well done, Pedro, that makes two of us.

  139. JC

    ScoMo at a Buddhist temple FMD. Christians Scott, Christians.

    The ungainly looking lughead wouldn’t have a clue what they believe in.

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If these people were in charge you wouldn’t be allowed outside without hubby or a male rello by your side, and if you so much as looked at another man you’d be buried up to your neck, and the rest of the population of your decrepit village would then peg stones at you until your skull fractured and you’d die slowly with ants conveyor-belting into your broken mouth, nose, ears and eyes.

    Yep. Jesus gets a gazillion million brownie points from me for being so on-record against this barbarism. Actually, he was somewhat against turning the other cheek too when his dander was up, as in the temple forecourt with those moneychangers. One thing I really think he got right was the concept of ‘forgiveness’. It is so psychologically apt. Life is full of moments of anguish or anger at the actions of others. If you have to live together, you have to learn to forgive and get over things. Tempered with justice, of course, and the Bible has a lot to say about that, and good behavior in general.

    Unless I’m wrong. I’m no Biblical scholar, simply went to Sunday school for a year when I was eleven.

    Thirty little kids at a Sunday school were blown to smithereens in Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday. 🙁

  141. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh, and apparently some fauxboriginal from Melbourne claims indigenous punters all over Australia will be furious that the fictitious, only-just-discovered-despite-being-there-for-800-years sacred birthing trees will be cut down.

    No they won’t.

    The Larrakia people from Darwin don’t care, nor do the Yolgnu from Arnhem Land.

    Especially not the Arrente and Tangayetere, or the Walpiri groups in Central Australia. If this lot has been aware of their existence, and IF the entirety of Indigenous Australia was one tribe and one ‘nation(!)’, they would have demanded the trees be dug up and sent their way, because their own trees weren’t big enough.

    Laughable.

  142. ZK2A:

    Well done, Pedro, that makes two of us.

    Make it three – the right can do disinformation as well – even if it’s true.

  143. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The ungainly looking lughead wouldn’t have a clue what they believe in.

    I’d cut him some slack on that. The Sri Lankan community in Melbourne stick together, Christian or Buddhist. I know some of them well, for they are the extended family of people I stayed with years ago. They got out during the civil war.

  144. Leigh Lowe

    From this I have deduced that all Hawthorn fans are thieves and adulterers.

    Not all.
    mUnter is a Hawks supporter and I don’t think he has ever committed adultery with a real, live lady.
    He is more in the “coveting” part of the commandments than the “committing” section.

  145. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m largely referring to the Singhalese. Singhalese are a different ethnic and racial group to the Tamils. Some Sri Lankan Christians I know have married Tamils, but it is not usual.

  146. Leigh Lowe

    To be fair, I think ScoMo’s visit to the Buddhist synagogue was scheduled a while ago.

  147. JC

    To be fair, I think ScoMo’s visit to the Buddhist synagogue was scheduled a while ago.

    He never came to ours.

  148. dover_beach

    Yes it is, Lizzie. Also a reminder that turn-the-other-cheekery, whilst laudable in theory has its limitations in practice.

    The monks at Lindisfarne in 793 were big on that concept. When the Vikings turned up, the monks had all their stuff taken and/or destroyed, and those that weren’t killed were made slaves.

    Indeed, they were but none of this suggests that Christian communities didn’t defend themselves against aggressors as the Vikings would soon find out.

  149. Nick

    LL, I repost this as proof as to what has befallen Monty:

    The perverted, morbidly-obese man who moaned as flight attendants onboard an EVA flight from Los Angeles to Taipei wiped his butt has been found dead in a Thai resort “famed” for prostitution.

  150. John Constantine

    Unfortunately the Sri Lanka diaspora in Melbournibad funded more than their share of the massively destructive Sri Lankan civil war.

    We never asked how many Tamil tigers came to be part of Big Australia. I knew one, and he was shell shock crazy.

    Be as big a pity for remittance payments from Australia to have funded the bombs in Sri Lanka as it would be for the real ira bullets that killed the journalist to be Australian remittance funded.

  151. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    the local landed gentry and the wealthier tree changers to ensure none of them will ever vote for the tax-eating rabble.

    Hairy can have a word with some of Zari Steggall’s support base too come Election Day if he hands out in Wahringah. A vote for Zari is a vote for Bill which is a vote for the Green’s 50% death tax.

    The script writes itself. And none of it is a lie. 🙂

  152. mh

    Even the BBC is reporting it’s Is lam. The MSM pretending to each other must stop.

    What’s known about the attackers?

    The government has urged people not to speculate about who could be behind the attacks and restricted access to social media in the aftermath of the bombings.

    No information has been given on the identity of the 24 people arrested.

    However, the BBC’s Azzam Ameen in Colombo says the bombers are thought to be part of a “radical extremist Isl amist group” according to authorities.

    Addressing reports that officials had had prior intelligence of forthcoming attacks, Mr Wickremesinghe said: “We must look into why adequate precautions were not taken. Neither I nor the ministers were kept informed.”

  153. Helen

    Thanks Pedro, Zulu, I will escalate!

  154. calli

    And just because I’m cranky (I blame cutting off the debbildebbil carbs today). Morrison lifting his hands in worship is perfectly Biblical even if it a bit odd for more conventional types (I am one).

    Trolls have said it’s a Nazi salute. Because they are as dumb as dog poop and as vicious as demons.

  155. jupes

    ScoMo at a Buddhist temple FMD.

    Wow. What an eejit! Obviously the virtue signalling clown has been advised by Tubbsy Payne.

    According to the West Australian, the Buddhists are responsible for the massacres. Apparently they have been mean to the RoP.

  156. Eyrie

    Pedro, the $200 afternoon coffee.

  157. Knuckle Dragger

    Indeed, dover. And thanks to Lizzie, I’ll point out Joshua from the OT as an example.

    The Big Man plonked Joshua and his people in Canaan, and told them the joint was theirs – to the chagrin of the Canaanites, who made it their mission to annihilate them.

    Joshua and his mates defended themselves so well that they razed the Canaanite cities to rubble, slaughtered their inhabitants – all of them, including the ones that said ‘they’ll come whether we like it or not’ and hung their kings from trees from Sinai to Turkey and up to the Euphrates. Then he divided his empire among his kids, like Charlemagne did over a thousand years later.

    An all round good bloke. Probably a Collingwood supporter too.

    Anyway, there’s a lesson in there for all of us. Don’t get me started on what a great guy Vlad the Impaler was.

  158. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thanks Pedro, Zulu, I will escalate!

    Helen, you’d be surprised how many Australians don’t know Australia did have death duties, the consequences in the forced sales of farms and businesses, and why they were abolished in the first place.

  159. calli

    all of them,

    Wrong. And therein is the problem.

  160. cohenite

    mh

    #2994803, posted on April 22, 2019 at 5:57 pm

    Cohenite, as a Qld voter, what’s the deal with voting for Fraser Anning this election?

    Is it Anning on the Senate ballot or someone else in the Fraser Anning party?

    Excuse my ignorance.

    Anning who has registered his won party is up for election as is Roberts. It’s a 1/2 senate so they’ve got to get 14%. Neither will get liar or lib preferences so it will be a huge task but there is no one else. Muddying the waters is Palmer who will take from Anning and Roberts as will the lunatic Katter.

    As for death duties by tits:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2185917474789152&set=a.169741456406774&type=3&theater

  161. Knuckle Dragger

    Someone at the shops today said Shorten’s death tax was 80%. Must be true! Spread the word!

  162. JC

    Milt on death duties. He is indispensable.

  163. P

    Can any Cats tell me where a Sri Lankan Christian church is in Melbourne?

    The Australia Sri Lanka Catholic Association site give some info:
    https://ausslca.org/events-and-projects.html
    but does not exactly answer your question.

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    All your dead rellos’ stuff is belong to us.

  165. Overburdened

    I was overjoyed to see Hyperbowl Gillard’s duck like head giving a shit eating grin as entree to some article about her being besties with someone who I know nothing about.

    Some intellectual colossus in the back room must have thought that it may help capture waverers in the demographic.

    I didn’t read the article.

    I think she should fuck off.

  166. Atoms for Peace

    Buddhist synagogue? Please explain

  167. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Make that Zali, not Zari. Stupid name anyway. Must have had very trendy left parents.
    My children all have Roman, Ango-Saxon or Judeo-Christian names.

    Drusilla, Edwin, Edmund and Michael. Not quite those, but you get my drift. 🙂

  168. vr

    I’m largely referring to the Singhalese. Singhalese are a different ethnic and racial group to the Tamils. Some Sri Lankan Christians I know have married Tamils, but it is not usual.

    Sinhalese have their origins in Bengal or Orissa (now called Odisha). The Tamils are obviously from Tamil Nadu from way bach when. The Tamil spoken in SL is different to that spoken in India.

  169. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Someone at the shops today said Shorten’s death tax was 80%. Must be true! Spread the word!

    That would be a logical step for a Shorten/Greens Government. “You have no business deciding who to leave your estate to. The State will decide.”

  170. Overburdened

    Good luck trying to persuade any of our ethnic brothers and sisters, in the instances where the women have a say, that they should pay death duties.

    Stand by for the flight of capital.

  171. mh

    mh
    #2994421, posted on April 22, 2019 at 9:53 am
    I am declaring the group responsible for yesterday’s atrocities was National Thowheeth Jama’ath (NTJ), unless we are told otherwise by Sri Lankan authorities.

    The Sri Lankan government has just announced that the above Isl amist group was responsible.

  172. Overburdened

    I should have added

    To go with the remittances already sent overseas regularly, care of our social welfare system.

  173. calli

    Thank you, P.

    Mass was at two locations at 7.00 and 8.00am respectively in Sri Lankan congregations this morning. Morrison could have attended either of these if he was in Melbourne early today.

    I wonder, was the Buddhist visit a spur of the moment thing, or was it scheduled? From the vision, it looked rather well planned.

  174. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Morrison lifting his hands in worship is perfectly Biblical

    I really liked that bit. Not as high as some of them, but still impressive. Seemed Biblical to me.
    Rather like one of those very grand Old Masters paintings of Biblical events. I think it is much better to see the PM do that than to stand at a church porch for interviews and pretend it means something to him.

    I have a friend who is a Pentecostal Holy Roller, gets off on religion big time in her church, but she’s perfectly sane in an everyday sense. She is one of the kindest people I have ever met. Helps everyone.

  175. Knuckle Dragger

    Zulu,

    Someone (apologies, I’ve forgotten who) posted recently about a way to get around the death duties – viz, that the dying immediately transfer all their assets to relatives before they shuffle off this mortal coil.

    Today, that seems perfectly fair enough and legal, if not prudent as well.

    But mark my words – if/when this gets in again, it won’t be enough for the Lab/Green vultures. They’ll be enraged at what they’ll see as monies due to the State, if not them personally, vanishing into thin air.

    It won’t be long before legislation is enacted prohibiting those 60 of over, regardless of physical health from transferring any asset or significant pecuniary amount to anyone, let alone their potential beneficiaries.

    In 20 years’ time someone will Google this and I’ll be hailed as a prescient visionary.

  176. Helen

    I watched that Steve Bannon ‘tube Rafe it was, I think, posted a few days ago. It took me a while to get to it because I have been struggling with the one touch payroll which, for micro businesses of four or less employees (not counting contractors and the like) comes in on July 1. That is where we tell the tax office how much we are paying and to whom every payday. It is all to make life easier for us. Ha! It is all to make life easier for the tax office.

    I digress. Anyhow, I watched the talk Steve gave to some mining group and he is smooth. A practised speaker – more of a convesationalist than an orator, he had me! One thing he said which resonated – the socialists aren’t after raising taxes so much. There is not much future in that. They are after our assets.

    And then I read somewhere today there is 2.8 trillion tied up in assets in Australia and a lot of that is owned by older people. It has increaed by 40% sine the GFC that wasn’t. Big target, soft target, of course they want it.

    I watched a movie yesterday, where a woman opened a bookshop in a villiage. Well the nancypants who ran the villiage and lived in the big house, wanted the bookshop for an art center, even though it was the home of this wodow woman. And then spent the rest of the movie achieving her aims. She got her nephew to pass a law saying councils could forcibly acquire old houses, she then got the council to inspect and say the house had damp and no compensation would be given, so the book shop lady was forced out of her home, her business, just because this witch wanted to win. So the little girl who had been helping the widow lady took her revenge. She set fire to it, the witch would never get it. And the lady motored away form the dock with her trunk, all she had in the world, and looked back at the villiage and the burning bookshop.

    So we need to make sure the warlock never gets our assets. Burn them.

  177. Overburdened

    vr

    I had a conversation with a Tamil MO from Tamil Nadu re the Tamils in northern Sri Lanka.

    He told me the people in Tamil Nadu didn’t like them.

  178. JC

    knucklehead

    Just stop. The way around avoiding death duties in the way you described is to introduce gift duties simultaneously instead of that loop you’re suggesting. Stop thinking.

  179. Infidel Tiger

    Surely even the window licking masses can see the irony of Gary Ablett being booed all day long on the Easter weekend for being a Christian?

    And just like Billy Vunipola who copped the same treatment in England, he was best on ground.

  180. Helen

    cohenite, I couldnt see that link – it said it had expired or I wasn’t allowed to look at it?

  181. JC

    Artie

    Tyler Cowan was nice enough to write a book called..Big Business. Supposedly, it’s very good and I suggest you read it as you seem to be off base over the past 12 months.

    Cowan dispels most of your supernatural fears.

  182. hzhousewife

    Woot.
    Bolt just showed a clip of BS at an Easter thing with kids. Young girl asked (sic) ” But if we shut down the coal mines, won’t there just be more people we have to pay the dole to? BS answered to the effect that well, we won’t be shutting down all the coal mines………………… Bolt commented that the young girl had the makings of an economist. Delightful.

  183. C.L.

    By Tess Livingstone
    2 hours ago April 22, 2019
    No Comments

    John Paul II would probably have told her and her fellow protesters to get back to school. But Pope Francis has encouraged Swedish teenage activist Greta Thunberg, 16, figurehead of the international “school strike for climate’’ campaign, to carry on.

    I don’t know what happened to Tess Livingstone but she seems to have become a cliche jockey and Kool Aid drunk. The young Karol Wojtyla and his band of daring poets, thespians and unionists went head to head against the Nazis and then the USSR. Many of them paid with their lives.

  184. Tel

    PeaHon was warning everyone about death tax last year. The ALP never denied it back then.

    https://www.onenation.org.au/bill-shorten-will-tax-you-dead-literally/

    It makes my blood boil when I hear Bill Shorten say he cares about workers. It’s nothing but a lie!

    Yesterday, Union bosses with Bill Shorten’s blessing told us Labor would like to reimplement a “Death Tax” or “Inheritance Tax” if Labor win the next election.

    I can’t tell you how terrible this idea is!

  185. rafiki redux

    The line I have been running is that while death duties (proponents like to call them estate taxes) may not currently be ALP policy, it is Greens policy and if Labor needs Green Senate support it will come at the price of death duties. I remind people that Gillard was likewise forced contradict her ‘no carbon tax’ pledge. (Whether she juts lied about her intentions is beside the point for these purposes.)

    The danger of course is that some may just vote Labor, but others who don’t like the majors might turn to another minor party – hopefully AC. Getting rid of the Greens is worthwhile whatever the consequence.

  186. Infidel Tiger

    Tyler Cowan?

    Isn’t he the crank from Zerohedge that has been wrong about everything?

  187. Knuckle Dragger

    Gift duties JC?

    Geez, I didn’t realise such a thing existed, or could exist.

    Apologies for the overreach, people. This is why I don’t generally comment on financial affairs, and restrict myself to subjects I know a bit more about.

    From the bloke who will spend his autumn years under a bridge eating dog food, such is my knowledge of financial matters.

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    If Shorten’s reading this (Hi Bill), I’ve been hacked. Pay no heed.

  189. JC

    Rafki

    When Shane Wand introduced the higher rate of tax on supers earning more than 300K, there was barely a whimper in punterland. If they introduce death and gift duties, they will do so above a certain threshold. I bet, above $3 million punterland will be cheering and the ABC will be calling the Liars Party brave and courageous for having done it.

  190. vr

    Overburdened — I am from Madras/Chennai. So, quite familiar with the politics. Some of the now dead politicians in TN, were sympathetic to the LTTE. They learned to regret that stance.

  191. JC

    Tyler Cowan?

    Isn’t he the crank from Zerohedge that has been wrong about everything?

    No, you idiot. That’s Tyler Durden.

  192. Peter Castieau

    These senators are up for reelection here in WA.

    Slade Brockman (Lib)
    Linda Reynolds (Lib)
    Louise Pratt (Lab)
    Pat Dodson (Lab)
    Jordon Steele-John (Grn)
    Peter Georgiou (PHON)

    Sadly I think the first 5 are almost a shoo-in

    The last spot is the crumbs. And winnable (hopefully)

  193. rafiki redux

    It may no longer be there, but at about 3.30pm there was a truck parked on the centre strip of the Federal Highway about 8 ks from Canberra with a large dramatic looking sign standing on its tray proclaiming that under Labor we would suffer death by taxes (or words to that effect). A cute way of associating Labor’s announced taxes with the notion of death duties. Maybe the LNP will go hard on this line.

  194. Knuckle Dragger

    Ah yes, ‘Uncle’ Pat.

    The massive Irish/Malaysian community will get him over the line.

  195. Tel

    Unions getting behind the Death Tax (2017).

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/death-tax-grants-would-give-young-australians-a-future-union-secretary-says-20170207-gu7eda.html

    In the speech due to be given on Wednesday night, Mr Ayres – a member of the ALP national executive – offers support for French economist Thomas Pikkety’s proposal for an inheritance tax “to fund a one-off capital grant for every citizen at the age of 25”.

    I hope the work of this newcomer Thomas Pikkety is somewhat better than that French scoundrel who wrote “Capital in the Twenty-First Century” and got basic historical facts wrong for the US economy.

  196. Boambee John

    Knuckle Dragger at 1811

    I’m an Old Testament guy myself.

    Perhaps Cassie or Ellie could enlighten me, but is the Old Testament essentially the Torah? If so, does this make KD Joosh (at least in spirit)?

  197. C.L.

    Of course:

    Hillary, Obama, Bernie Avoid Saying “Christian” Or “Churches” In Sri Lanka Statements.

    GWP is correct to say “credit where it’s due” for this …

    Beto O’Rourke✔@BetoORourke

    These acts of terror against Christians in Sri Lanka are unspeakably tragic. Our hearts are with the victims and their families. We owe them our commitment to making our world a place where no family lives in fear of persecution because of how they worship.

    Well done.

  198. Overburdened

    KD

    As a product of human flotsam I know nothing about money.

    One of my drivers was to not slide back into the pit once I left it.

    Your thoughts on your potential fate has reminded me.

    In the meantime I’m a total tight arse.

    This means I will be able to afford Pal instead of Snappy Tom.

    My children don’t understand me.

    Not complaining just saying.

  199. feelthebern

    Surely even the window licking masses can see the irony of Gary Ablett being booed all day long on the Easter weekend for being a Christian?

    Will there be the same outrage as people booing Adam Goodes ?

  200. Knuckle Dragger
    #2994735, posted on April 22, 2019 at 4:36 pm

    CFMMEU.
    Crocodile tears, they have to put on a show to justify the ~$500 year they ping what few remaining members they have. Look what they’ve done to the timber industry in Victoria. They were fined a lot of money on illegal boycotts on Boral concrete, who just happen to be one of the largest timber millers in NSW. While simultaneously funding the New Communists who are close to shutting down the NSW timber industry for a koala park.

    The CFMMEU is basically a cashed up outlaw bikie gang, they have millions in the bank, they no longer need ‘members’.

  201. Geriatric Mayfly

    ‘There will be no death taxes under a Government I lead.”

  202. C.L.

    Also via GWP, this comedian is getting some play today for a three minute explanation of Wussia and how it started. It’s pretty damned good. Apparently, he is a left-wing comic but he’s fed up:

  203. rafiki redux

    Naturally, introduction of death duties would be accompanied by avoidance measures. I am digging very deep into my failing memory now, but I think the old Australian schemes deemed property (widely defined) transfers in a period of some years prior to death to be part of the deceased’s estate. Maybe this is more clear cut than gift duties, which would take effect I suppose on the making of the gift.

    A possible model would be the UK law, which would no doubt address this general question. I looked at it recently, and I think the tax was 40% of the value of the estate.

  204. feelthebern

    Watching my little Tigers get pummelled today by the Eels was almost ok given the whole experience of this new Parramatta Stadium.
    & I was on the couch.
    Imagine being there.

  205. Overburdened

    KD

    Did St Quentin of Tarantino, the Patron Saint of supplying biblical references via smash em up movies, have a hand in your religious fundamentalism?

  206. C.L.

    Mark Dice continues to go after this CNN fat head. It cracks me up every time:

  207. Boambee John

    Calli at 1840

    Trolls have said it’s a Nazi salute. Because they are as dumb as dog poop and as vicious as demons.

    Dig out the photo of La Gillardine on a patrol boat in Darwin some years ago. She had her right hand raised in what was probably a greeting, but looks exactly like a Nazi salute.

    Strangely, the MSM did not make a big song and dance about it. /sarc

  208. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Seems union boss Tony Sheldon’s top of the Senate ticket for New South Wales.

  209. Armadillo

    Unfortunately the Sri Lanka diaspora in Melbournibad funded more than their share of the massively destructive Sri Lankan civil war.

    The Tamils raised most of their war funds through extortion. A percentage of overseas relatives income were taxed. If you didn’t pay up, Uncle Sunil back home was going to cop a bullet in the head.

  210. C.L.

    Dice continues to go after this CNN fat head. It cracks me up every time:

  211. cohenite

    Helen

    #2994872, posted on April 22, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    cohenite, I couldnt see that link – it said it had expired or I wasn’t allowed to look at it?

    Try this:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2185917474789152&set=a.169741456406774&type=3&theater

  212. Mark A

    Boambee John
    #2994889, posted on April 22, 2019 at 7:25 pm

    Only the books of Moses
    Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

  213. Armadillo

    I note Sinc has doxed Jesus on the header banner.

  214. Leigh Lowe

    Death duties of some sort are a sure thing eventually for both Parties of tax-grabbers.

    Do it, Peanut Head.
    Just do it.
    The cynical pricks are playing to the Gen Y Project audience and running Boomer vs Gen Y war.
    “The reason you can’t afford a house is because the older generation STOLE your birthright.”
    It will eventually dawn on the Gen Ys that the Boomers aren’t some amorphous non-descript mass … it is MY mum and dad.
    Two things will happen.
    1. Kids will see their nest-egg inheritance cut by perhaps 20% to 30% if they introduce death duties (they are not going to introduce it at 5%); and
    2. Financial planners will shrug and say … “fuck it, you may as well liquidate assets now and spend rather than die with a DD liability”. That is going to cause a lot of bottom jaws to hit mum and dad’s dining table when it is announced over Christmas lunch that mum and dad have signed up to sail on the Queen Mary six months of every year.

  215. JC

    cohenite
    #2994907, posted on April 22, 2019 at 7:35 pm

    Helen

    #2994872, posted on April 22, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    cohenite, I couldnt see that link – it said it had expired or I wasn’t allowed to look at it?

    Try this:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2185917474789152&set=a.169741456406774&type=3&theater

    It doesn’t work, cronkite. FFS, learn to code.

  216. cohenite

    Leigh Lowe

    #2994911, posted on April 22, 2019 at 7:41 pm

    That’s funny but I don’t think you can under-estimate the stupidity of young folk, blinded as they often are by being part of a cause.

  217. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    1. Kids will see their nest-egg inheritance cut by perhaps 20% to 30% if they introduce death duties (they are not going to introduce it at 5%); and

    40% was the level, IIRC.

  218. Mark A

    rafiki redux
    #2994896, posted on April 22, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    Naturally, introduction of death duties would be accompanied by avoidance measures. I am digging very deep into my failing memory now, but I think the old Australian schemes deemed property (widely defined) transfers in a period of some years prior to death to be part of the deceased’s estate.

    Yes it was so, similar to the deeming rule re. money in bank.

    If it (DD) comes in at all the only way I can see to beat it to sell up way before and make the money disappear.
    Not easy, it would have to be all cash or something similar, a messy affair.
    Many would be resigned to pay it and keep the assets.

  219. min

    I have a Sri Lankan friend , a Christian who married a Tamil . He studied Physics in London and had trouble getting a job so they came to Australia . Also son was a good cricketer and because of Tamil connection back then would not have been in a cricket team. My friend attends local church.

  220. cohenite

    It doesn’t work, cronkite. FFS, learn to code.

    It works for me; type with your fingers and not your cigar.

    Anyway it’s a tweet by that bloke McManus who runs the unions noting death duties are now liars policy.

  221. John Constantine

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/24/utopian-thinking-fund-welfare-state-inheritance-tax

    n the UK, official statistics suggest around £77bn is passed on in inheritance each year (tax avoidance means the real amount could be even higher). That’s money that no living being has a moral claim to, according to standard justifications of wealth inequality and private property. Were that money redistributed by the state, it would cover the cost of adult social care several times over. It could plug gaps in NHS, education and police funding. It could provide the kind of comprehensive welfare state that meant nobody had to worry about their family after they passed away – because there would always be a safety net.

    Cultural norms teach us that the inheritance of private property is the default and any expropriation of this wealth must be justified. It should be the other way round. There’s some value in respecting the wishes of the dead, yes, but why is that more important than social housing, healthcare or any number of other possible uses for the money? It’s natural to want to protect and care for your family, but what about people who don’t stand to inherit a penny? Is there any reason their needs should matter less? We have to fund our state somehow – what makes inheritance tax more objectionable than income tax or VAT charged on essential consumer goods?

    A 100% estate tax (perhaps with a small allowance for objects of sentimental

    Wait for the property Ponzi to unravel and mass millions of voters from the worlds poorest places to figure out the true value of a vote.

    All estates estimated at over ten millions?.

    Increase the time elapsed between disposing of resources and accessing pension and medical and aged care benefits to ten or twenty years?.

    Create the perverse incentives to try and beat the system?.

  222. Tel

    The OECP (Organization for Economic Central Planning) has demanded that Australia introduce an inheritance tax … fur de inequalidee.

    https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2018/apr/12/use-inheritance-tax-to-tackle-inequality-of-wealth-says-oecd

    Wealth inequality is greater than income inequality and evidence suggests disparities have increased in recent decades, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development said in a report. Wealth – such as property, savings, share portfolios and pensions – grows and becomes self-reinforcing because the rich have more to invest in higher-yielding assets, greater financial knowhow and better access to investment advice, the OECD said.

    There you go, wealthy people are evil because they refuse to piss away their money … ergo, governments must take the money and piss it for them. Well, that’s a forgone conclusion then, if the OECP wants it, Canberra will be right at their civil service making sure it happens.

  223. Nick

    LL, was just thinking the same thing. Millennials will really get to buy a house then. Lol.

  224. PMW (that’s pull my Prime Minister William) will not risk his job with duties.

    Only a safe PM would risk such a change.

  225. JC

    Anyway it’s a tweet by that bloke McManus who runs the unions noting death duties are now liars policy.

    Of course they are above a threshold.

  226. Leigh Lowe

    Armadillo

    #2994909, posted on April 22, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    I note Sinc has doxed Jesus on the header banner

    Sinc has declared this a dox free zone.
    Why is that?
    Well, if the identities of everyone here are revealed, 94.2% of the addresses will be “Professor Plum’s sock drawer.”

  227. Notafan

    Sorry Jupes

    But I don’t see a now 17year old girl a 16 year old girl and an 8 year old boy as our biggest security risk.

    As for oh but they had slaves !

    They did not, the adults had slaves.

    But you know better because you were there.

  228. John Constantine

    LTTE fronts in Australia use a variety of tactics to attract donations, including music festivals, dance concerts and radiothons.

    Typically, money raised is put into bank accounts in Southeast Asia before it ends up in the pockets of arms dealers and other LTTE intermediaries in the region. To conceal the tracks, funds are often transferred into legitimate bank accounts in Malaysia and Thailand.

    Documents obtained by The Weekend Australian show one Tamil group transferred $400,000 out of Australia between 2000 and 2003 for alleged weapons procurement. Couriers, usually LTTE sympathisers from Melbourne or Sydney, are sometimes used to carry the money to Kuala Lumpur. Sources say the money is then moved by intermediaries to either Indonesia or Cambodia where the LTTE “gets a lot of its military weapons”.

    Although many of the estimated 30,000 Tamils in Australia sympathise with the separatist cause of LTTE, only a hard core are engaged in raising funds.

    Sources say there are about 300 activists in Australia. Some use “intimidatory” or “emotional tactics” to attract funds from other Tamils.

    Those who refuse to give money are labelled traitors and are isolated by the community.

    In extreme cases, their families in Sri Lanka are threatened. “They demand money (especially) from businesses,” a source said. “People can’t outrightly resist.” Another source said: “They have a complete strangle-hold on the community.”

    Activists do not say they are raising funds for the military campaign. “They don’t ask for money for arms or LTTE directly,” a source said.

  229. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/oYVmKMVIaZ8

    This little gem from the UnitedSpot has the self called Beto reciting a poem he wrote, covers the green new deal and has a cow.

    Very good, if a bit scatalogical.

  230. pete m

    Knuckle Dragger – very few people get the chance to know if they are dying soon. Even with a terminal cancer there have been longer survivals than thought.

    People can try trusts or companies to hold assets where shares can be moved around easier than property, but the tax office and centrelink are quite good at hunting out these schemes.

    eg BS is moving to tax discretionary trusts and now people are converting them to unit trusts, which are more open to attack.

    The best way is to reside in a country with friendly laws and have assets domiciled there, and nothing stopping you holidaying here and there for example. Just watch the residency deeming rules.

    The gifting thing can be done – very hard if it is converted to cash to tax it. Much easier to tax if it is property like shares or real property (land).

    Or campaign hard on death duties to ensure it is not passed.

  231. I thought death duties ended when Joe Bjelkie Peterson abolished them in QLD and the rest of the states had to follow suit lest they lose all their productive people?

    I reckon Gladys will regret not agreeing to take back income taxing powers as Lord Wentworth recently suggested. But then he’d probably announce his own death duties, but ony 50% not Bowen’s 80%

    Imagine death duties in South Australia, they’d have to move the capital to Mt Gambier, there’d be no one left in Adelaide.

  232. cohenite

    Thank you professor Davidson for putting me in touch with Bill Thompson.

    I don’t suppose you could resend the email?

    Cheers

  233. cohenite

    Of course they are above a threshold.

    How do you know that? What threshold: being a member of the liars?

  234. John Constantine

    Just saying that out in rural Australia, local council khmer greens are arranging for wealth taxes on unserviced farmland of 100% of income in dry years.

    For equality and to save the planet.

    And pay the shires biggest wages to local government top level quislings.

    Comrades.

  235. Overburdened

    Hate to be a wet blanket about the death tax issue

    It’s doomed to fail because eventually all the old bastards will be dead and the income stream will dry up, the kids who didn’t inherit anything will generally have teles and cars but nothing much of substance and it will be a long time before they die to provide progressively less to the Government.

  236. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I thought death duties ended when Joe Bjelkie Peterson abolished them in QLD and the rest of the states had to follow suit lest they lose all their productive people?

    That’s exactly what happened.

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