Open Forum: April 27, 2019

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bob Brown has planned Adani convoy since 2017

    Just so glad to see he, and his partner are enjoying their retirement.

  2. Makka

    It’s absolutely plausible that the US with its near open southern border

    This is why dotty poo poos the article. It shows what a dangerous farce the Libertarian notion of open borders really is.

  3. We need to re-institutute subsidiarity in our Constitution.

    Keep the Commonwealth but dissolve the Commonwealth Parliament & Government – become a confederation (with more states) rather than a federation and we will have all the subsidiarity you desire.

  4. Notafan

    Did dot disagree with the article because of open borders or because the sheer number of alleged trafficked children, which the article implied were stolen white children, was implausible?

  5. Des Deskperson

    Act doesn’t give statistics about prison populations other than that divide them into non-indigenous and indigenous with about 23% indigenous.

    it would be interesting to know what’s changed the last couple of years that is causing prison populations to increase so dramatically.’

    Notafan, according to the 2016 census, the percentage of ACT residents identifying as indigenous was 1.9%. The percentage of NWS was 3.5 %. Yet the level of Indigenous incarceration in Tory NSW – 25% – is only slightly higher than the enlightened Labor/Green ACT.

    We are aware that the levels of indigenous incarceration reflect factors that are more complex than simply racism. On the other hand, Indigenous Australians in the ACT are more likely to be relatively law abiding middle class public servants, so it’s still a bad look for the ACT, which is trying to address it through special diversionary programmes.

    As for the increasing prison population in general, in the ACT it’s due at least partially to the tardiness of the judicial processes. Nearly 38% of out prison population have yet to be sentenced.

  6. This is why dotty poo poos the article. It shows what a dangerous farce the Libertarian notion of open borders really is.

    No, it is total crap recycled every couple of years to scare the shit out of people to support the police state.

    If the Don has been in power for over two years and hasn’t sent tens of millions of illegals back home yet or can’t find them, no one ever will, or he is totally incompetent.

    People have got to stop believing everything that gets posted on 4 chan.

  7. Done Deal

    I bet he didn’t take the Tesla.

    If they did and it didn’t make to odd 2,000k jump between recharging stations, when push came to shove, I wonder who did what…as in who stayed with the car and who lumped the battery to get a refill

  8. Nothing in the Oz MSM about this incident, or about the fact that he was apparently targeting M**lims.

    Multiple witness accounts described Peoples as saying, “I love you, Jesus,” “Thank you Jesus,” and “Praise Jesus,” or words to that effect after the crash, language that continued as he was being taken from the scene in handcuffs.

  9. Makka

    No, it is total crap recycled every couple of years to scare the shit out of people to support the police state.

    Protecting and securing your borders from the admittance of crims, drug dealers, rapists, child traffickers and terrorists is not the “police state” dotty. It’s just common sense. You know full well the legal maze in place put their by leftards to deter deportations. But it is gradually being dismantled, mainly by replacing judges in key courts. You are beating this drum because it offends your open borders sensibilities. Open borders are national suicide.

  10. Makka

    No, it is total crap recycled every couple of years to scare the shit out of people to support the police state.

    Protecting and securing your borders from the admittance of crims, drug dealers, raypists, child traffickers and terrorists is not the “police state” dotty. It’s just common sense. You know full well the legal maze in place put their by leftards to deter deportations. But it is gradually being dismantled, mainly by replacing judges in key courts. You are beating this drum because it offends your open borders sensibilities. Open borders are national suicide.

  11. Des Deskperson

    ‘Hi, Des, you had good luck with the weather on your WEB. It was glorious here, too.’

    I did, thanks, Johanna, and it’s also a beautiful day today out here in Weston Creek. I’m going for a walk up on Cooleman Ridge if I can avoid the dog walkers and their slobbering, merde-dropping charges.

    A vist to the Coast and encounters with ‘coasties’ also reminds one of where much of Canberra’s underclass comes from

  12. Boambee John

    Numbers seems concerned that after multiple attacks and hundreds of dead the Xian “backlash” might finally have shown some limited signs of life.

  13. bespoke

    I have never read Dot supporting open borders or JC.

  14. Caveman

    Shortman thanking the traditional owners of Box Hill , Vic , Which are of course the Chinese.

  15. Notafan

    There is much exaggeration of an old old problem.

    not 150000, 300000

  16. Exactly right notafan. The stuff Tyler posts is just insane Q-tard crap with no factual basis other than “I saw it on 4 chan” and conflating and then multiplying different sources together to string together a nightmarish situation that isn’t real.

    No one is denying there is some child trafficking going on. The idea that the police and prosecutors across America know how much abuse goes on (or how many abusers search online for this evil) but are hopeless to stop it is just unbelievable bullshit.

    Unless you believe that there are enablers in every law enforcement and prosecutor’s office throughout the US.

    It is just floridly delusional nonsense.

    You know, like how virtually every single kid’s cooking book has a recipe for tomato, cheese and pepperoni pie.

    Must be because all the authors are secretly child abusers?

    I’m not wasting any more time on this schizoid BS.

    Remember when 4 chan trolled Oprah; “over 9000 penises molesting children…”?

  17. JC

    That’s correct, Bespoke. Trades Hall is having one of his regular hallucination spasms. Best to ignore it.

  18. Makka

    I can’t help your lack of comprehension bespoke. Both support free movement of peoples across borders and continued high immigration as well. That much is already crystal clear going back years here. Carry their bags if you must. Liars like JC always endeavour to mask their agendas. Bespoke careers in baristas and hotel concierges are just awesome, right numpty?

  19. Frank

    Green tourism was going to make Tasmania great (for the first time)

    How’s that pious experiment going bobbittybo

    Taxing backpackers doesn’t quite cover the costs of running a modern state, even one with such a high per capita production and consumption of trail mix. That is why they pivoted to the whole IT leaders running tech companies due to the NBN thing, the tourists can go hang now. Just need to get the literacy rates up above 50% and we will be the new silicon valley, but more friendly to the small woodland creatures.

  20. Notafan

    Trump passed new legislation in 2018 to shut down trafficking websites.

    You have to ask yourself what percentage of the population are preferential P files before you go any further with these allegations.

  21. Protecting and securing your borders from the admittance of crims, drug dealers, raypists, child traffickers and terrorists is not the “police state” dotty.

    It is when you lie about the figures to scare the shit out of people.

    Wowee, lookee that, an NGO lying and begging for taxpayer cash.

    They span a wide age range from 1 to 18 years old.

    Wow, these idiots are actually including 18 year olds?

    1.5 Million victims in the United States

    Loopy stuff. Roughly 1/213 residents in America have been victims of a sex trafficking ring?

    Up to 300,000 Americans under 18 are lured into the commercial sex trade every year

    Bullshit.

    From 14,500 – 17,500 of those victims are trafficked into the United States each year

    So they actually are saying it is mostly white kids, not Hispanics who are illegals.

    Average life span of a victim is reported to be 7 years (found dead from attack, abuse, HIV and other STD’s, malnutrition, overdose or suicide)

    So in turn there are 300,000 unsolved murders in the US each year, mostly of white kids who were lured into this?

    There were a total of 17,284 reported murder and non-negligent manslaughter cases in the U.S. in 2017.

    Most of which would be closed cases, but they’re saying the US has a murder rate comparable to Tijuana?

    Delusional nonsense.

    No more.

  22. JC

    He’s lying Bespoke. I certainly don’t and I don’t believe Walker does either – although it’s best for the Frankster to speak for himself.

    I’ve said countless times that I’m with Milton Friedman. Friedman stated that open borders and a welfare state can’t work.

    Trades Hall is hallucinating again.

    Ask Trades if he supports job credentialism and legislated wage rates. He does.. the union zombie.

  23. Makka

    Good news from Iran;

    Iran’s national currency, the rial, has dropped to historic lows — one US dollar, which equaled approximately 35,000 rials in November of 2017, now buys you nearly 130,000 rials.

    Now the latest reports show that those who support the idea of appeasing Iran, and criticizing Trump’s strict policy toward Iran, are dead wrong.

    The sanctions have, in fact, imposed significant pressure on the Iranian government to such an extent that the Iranian leaders are cutting their funding to their allies, militia and terror groups.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/14126/the-us-sanctions-on-mullahs-are-working

  24. Geriatric Mayfly:

    Think how many wind turbines that could fund, to further enhance our rural vistas.

    Think how many birdmunchers that could be put on top of some CBD towers?
    Think I’ll start a rumour about putting four on that bunker in/on Capital Hill, Canberra.
    Just to hear the Greens screech about ‘visual pollution’.

  25. I said once we should let people in but be prepared to kick them out.

    That is very liberal, and echoes what Reagan said (trust, then verify).

    There are qualified arguments about Quaranic scholarship and restricting immigration on the basis of non-integration as well from otherwise culturally incompatible (to liberalism) regions.

    We’ve legally always had the right to restrict immigration on any terms through inherited executive (royal) prerogative and each time legislation is passed (the 1948 act or the Tampa legislation) it has actually weakened this inherent power.

    Actually with Tampa it should have just been punted back to Indonesia.

    I’ve been swayed in favour of restrictions to an extent but I’d rather judge people as individuals and not groups.

    Hence why I think shit testing refugees from Saudi Arabia about being apostates is nonsense.

    OSB is better than onshore detention (started by a Bankstown clock fancier) and that stupid Malaysia deal.

    Even if you have OSB and Fraser Anning having restrictions on culturally incompatible immigration, I still want high immigration of quality immigrants, an expensive fee for the time being and no welfare for non-citizens.

    I believe the fee would remove a lot of the incentives for illegal immigration and removing welfare would remove that further along with low quality legal immigrants.

    I also think settling everyone in Sydney/Melbourne is stupid, but the way the government dominates our economy (and has to a large extent stifles primary industry) this is a natural outcome. I did watch a Sydney Watson interview with Mc Innes where she declared that there was no where else to live but on the coast, um…?

  26. bespoke

    Makka

    Less emotion more facts, please.

    All Iv seen is proposals that would reduce abuse of the system although I would argue that much of the skilled workers needed is locked up in the bureaucracy doing busy work. We would have been better of banning unionist Poms years ago.

  27. Makka

    I’ve said countless times that I’m with Milton Friedman. Friedman stated that open borders and a welfare state can’t work.

    And yet you support the LDP who profess to believe in the free movement of peoples across borders. That sticky bit about the absolute impossibility of demolishing the welfare state first and foremost still doesn’t deter that fundamental belief. So here again it’s just a lie , unless you care to deny your LDP support. And btw numpty, for the umpteenth time, if you can support in any way your lies about my backing centralised wage fixing, I’m asking you to post the quotes. Just one. Do it. So far for the last year or more it’s been your waffle, lies and bullshit. Now, respond with evidence, not more of your lies.

    What did Friedman actually say?

    Sounds to me like he enthusiastically agreed with open borders. Just like you do numpty.

    https://openborders.info/friedman-immigration-welfare-state/

  28. C.L.

    Remember how leftists argued how shameful it was that the world’s most unmentionable personal trainer drifted into terrorism in ‘racist’ Australia?

    Anyway …

    Bomber ‘radicalised in Australia’
    A Sri Lankan suicide bomber became “deeply religious” while in Melbourne, his sister says.

    Strange that when Mo-philes become “deeply religious” (that is, more obedient disciples of the founder and his book), they start killing people.
    When baptised Christians become “deeply religious,” quite the opposite.

  29. Steve trickler

    A shout out to all “good journos” in the MSM ( :



  30. Makka

    I was dealing with your impressions bespoke. You offered no facts so neither did I. Observations aren’t emotions , petal.

  31. Geriatric Mayfly

    Labour promises free dental, wage rises. The Oz

    Is anyone keeping tabs on this scattering to the winds of other peoples money. Every day now Shortstumps
    tosses more into the air, with nary a word about controlling expenditure; except for the top end of town who will be lucky to put food on the table.

  32. Black Ball

    Just with this Constitution stuff with blacks. I thought the Constitution already covered us? It does say all Australians doesn’t it? And don’t we already have our voices heard every election when we cast our votes? Perhaps some Cat or Kitteh can enlighten me as to how constitutional recognition will improve the quality of life of Aboriginal people? To this observer, it could well be the first step in reparations. What do commenters here think, very interested in hearing other opinions.

  33. I should resist commentating, but there are roughly 80 million Americans aged 0-19 years old.

    From that paranoid “children’s charity”, over the past 20 years, given the “average lifespan” and the other figures they claim, there would be SIX MILLION murdered kids over the past 20 years.

    If 6.98% of all American kids (make it 6.57% to account for illegals) in the past 20 years have been MURDERED (okay maybe halve it to account for the starting cohort) [still ridiculous at 3.285% to 3.354%], people would notice.

    That’s like saying, in the least, if you went to a school with 1000 kids, by the time you left school, 32 of them would be abducted, trafficked, pimped out, habitually abused and murdered…and that happens in every school in the country at the same proportion. Every year you are in high school, five to six kids have that done to them…and it happens everywhere…and no one notices except for the saints at the “kids charity”?

    No one in their right mind could possibly believe this.

    Each and every case would be national news for a while.

  34. ZK2A:
    You have no poetry in your soul, Armadillo. You will be crushed to death on a bitumen road, by a Model A Ford, and the crows will ignore the roadkill.

  35. And yet you support the LDP who profess to believe in the free movement of peoples across borders. That sticky bit about the absolute impossibility of demolishing the welfare state first and foremost still doesn’t deter that fundamental belief.

    No, non-citizens should get nothing at all.

  36. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    To this observer, it could well be the first step in reparations. What do commenters here think, very interested in hearing other opinions.

    A treaty with each of the five hundred or so “First Nations” is already on the agenda, I’ll bet good money reparations are the next step.

  37. bespoke

    Makka

    Whatever!! I actually have skin in the game when it comes to my job and your petty jabs wont diminish my support for some of the concerns you express.

  38. Boambee John

    Frank Tiles at 1224

    Even if you have OSB and Fraser Anning having restrictions on culturally incompatible immigration, I still want high immigration of quality immigrants, an expensive fee for the time being and no welfare for non-citizens.

    I believe the fee would remove a lot of the incentives for illegal immigration and removing welfare would remove that further along with low quality legal immigrants.

    I also think settling everyone in Sydney/Melbourne is stupid, but the way the government dominates our economy (and has to a large extent stifles primary industry) this is a natural outcome. I did watch a Sydney Watson interview with Mc Innes where she declared that there was no where else to live but on the coast, um…?

    I suspect that there are now so many recent “citizens” settled in Sydney/Melbourne that, even putting aside the home grown bleeding hearts, and the SJW lawfare types, there is no political way to stop welfare for non-citizens, many of whom will have familial links with recent citizens.

  39. Overburdened

    As far as the culinary embargo against the fuckwits disturbing the peace of the usually somnolent community of Clermont

    The only decent tucker within a 150km radius is available at the bakery in Middlemount.

    The pies produced there are the best I have tried since eating Curly Aiton’s pies as a child.

    Curly was a mate of Eric Worrell, which may explain why Curly’s Pies were so deliciously different.

    The bucket burger at the Black Nugget is well regarded but expensive.

    As far as the tough mining town stuff goes, there are roots to the water table locals and fifo miners in an isolated community and almost everyone makes a significant effort to get on.

    If you want a smack on the head you’ll get it wherever you are.

    Having worked out there I can say that these communities are pretty good at keeping the peace.

  40. egg_

    “That’s going to be attracting jobs and businesses through tourism and hospitality to this region long after coal has gone.”

    A soy latte led revolution?
    A bald faced lie.

  41. egg_

    I once was a pinin’
    Of making lattes ‘stead of minin’…

  42. JC

    I can’t vouch for veracity, but boy the D’rats appear to be fucking corrupt.

    As Ukraine underwent dramatic changes in 2014, Vice President Joe Biden played a critical role in the Obama administration’s involvement in the revolution that ousted Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.

    Following the revolution, Biden would use his influence to help force the creation of the troubled National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU). Notably, during the 2016 elections information leaked from NABU on Trump’s campaign manager Paul Manafort that helped to create the false narrative that Trump colluded with Russia to win the elections.

    Biden would also use the threat of withholding a billion dollars in American loan guarantees to pressure Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to fire the prosecutor general. At the time the prosecutor had been investigating Burisma, a Ukrainian natural gas giant that Biden’s son, Hunter, was a board member on.

    President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, recently said “keep your eye on Ukraine.” In his comments to the Washington Examiner, Giuliani highlighted the “plot to create an investigation of President Trump based on a false charge of conspiracy with the Russians to affect the 2016 elections.”

    and

    In April, Biden would get personally involved, as would his son, Hunter. On April 18, 2014, Hunter Biden was appointed to the Board of Directors for Burisma–one of the largest natural gas companies in Ukraine.

    Four days later, on April 22 2014, Vice President Biden traveled to Ukraine, offering his political support and $50 million in aid for Yatsenyuk’s shaky new government. Petro Poroshenko, a billionaire politician, was elected as president of Ukraine on May 25, 2014.

    Biden became close to both men and helped Ukraine to obtain a four-year $17.5 billion IMF package in March 2015.

    and

    However, according to The Hill’s reporting, Biden’s firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners, was receiving regular payments—“usually more than $166,000 a month”—from Burisma. The payments ran from the spring of 2014 through the fall of 2015 and reportedly totaled more than $3 million.

    I’ve read chatter the wussiagate story was meant to steer the ship away from the D’rats involvement in the Ukraine.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/joe-biden-obama-officials-influenced-ukraine-to-advance-own-interests_2896259.html

  43. Cue government dreamt up “pop up shops” and “festivals”, egg_ .

  44. Black Ball

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha I have been at meetings before about which towns belong to a particular ‘nation’. Nothing is ever agreed upon. Just using Balranald as an example, that is close to 4 different ‘nations’ and has recently set up a solar er, farm. So I can imagine that each of these ‘nations’, under this agreement, will be squabbling over the lucre. The boundaries themselves are fluid, nothing real discernable to differentiate between the ‘nations’. All in all, this is a clusterfuck just waiting to happen.

  45. egg_

    Why the fuck is the ABC running a Bill Shorten election campaign advert???? FFS!

    ?? I thought basically if it was broadcasting it WAS running an ALP ad

    We interrupt this ALP ad for a brief programme.

  46. Top Ender

    To this observer, it could well be the first step in reparations. What do commenters here think, very interested in hearing other opinions.

    When in doubt, always follow the money.

  47. JC

    I didn’t post the part, but it mentions there was actually a GOP mayor of San Francisco.

    From the WSJ editorial page.

    Like Reagan, Mr. Wilson first won public office in 1966, a state Assembly seat. A story from that campaign illustrates one of his insights about how California later went left. One issue at the time was whether public-school teachers should have the right to strike. “I planted that question in a debate,” Mr. Wilson says, “knowing that there would be a Q&A.” It worked: His opponent supported the right to strike, and Mr. Wilson “spelled out why that was a terrible mistake—unfair to parents, unfair to children, who had no alternative.”

    Soon after, “I got a call, and it was from the California Teachers Association.” To chew him out? No, to ask for a meeting, at which they offered him an endorsement and a campaign check. The union representatives explained, in Mr. Wilson’s paraphrase: “We exist for the purpose of enhancing the quality and effectiveness of classroom teaching. And like you, we feel that having a legal right to strike would undermine that professionalism.”

    That changed over the next quarter-century: “What had been a professional organization became one that existed for the purpose of defeating any metric of performance, any accountability.” It also became partisan—a key source of organization and fundraising for Democratic politicians and liberal policies. In the 1990s, teachers “sent letters home with kids, to show their parents, saying Governor Wilson is anti-education; he wants to cut teachers’ salaries”—something Mr. Wilson calls a “total falsehood.”

    Educational quality has also been affected. “California had the best public-school system in the nation,” Mr. Wilson says. “Today, it is struggling to keep from being the worst.” Students graduate “abysmally ignorant of their own history”—and that makes them, in Mr. Wilson’s view, less prepared to appreciate conservative ideas.

    The teachers supported Pete Wilson in California!

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/will-america-follow-the-left-coasts-lead-11556317268

  48. egg_

    Cue government dreamt up “pop up shops” and “festivals”, egg_ .

    They can pop them up next to the Upper Bumcrack traditional aboriginal observatory.

  49. rickw

    Just with this Constitution stuff with blacks. I thought the Constitution already covered us? It does say all Australians doesn’t it? And don’t we already have our voices heard every election when we cast our votes?

    Stop making sense!!

  50. Geriatric Mayfly

    “That’s going to be attracting jobs and businesses through tourism and hospitality to this region long after coal has gone.”

    For how long has the concept of ‘decentralisation’ been pushed around? A good Gubmint subsidy might get a few moving to regional centres. To smaller towns, not so much. Out into the middle of whoop whoop, never.

  51. Steve trickler

    Back in the time when race relations were in far better shape.

    Creepy visual opening to be honest…[email protected]:56 Who is she?!

  52. Decentralisation, per se, is a joke. Why? Because the government on the other hand intentionally stifles primary (and secondary) industry. On top of that, we were always highly centralised and now have had socialism and excessive regulation for 47+ years.

    The value of subsidies to encourage people to move to regional areas pales to the value of infrastructure built into cities due to big government and the destruction of value from enforcing anti-development policies in the regions.

  53. Rockdoctor

    Overburdened
    #2999270, posted on April 28, 2019 at 12:58 pm

    Agreed, well said as someone who has worked there and on my first foray into NSW Hunter Valley seeing the same dynamics there. Though the ferals are a bit closer…

  54. bespoke

    UAP supports decentralization by way of high speed trains, LOL!.

  55. JC

    California was the jewel in the crown of modern civilization. San Francisco – the most beautiful modern city in the world and LA a middle class dream.

    Look now.

    California’s descent into a one-party state accelerated in 2018. Golden State Democrats picked up seven seats in the House. They now control almost 87% of the state’s congressional delegation—46 of the 53 representatives. Orange County, one of the original strongholds of the conservative movement, is now a liberal bastion. Democrats hold both U.S. Senate seats and all eight elected statewide offices.

    It has been widely reported that in the California Legislature Democrats won supermajorities of two-thirds. This understates their control, which is more like three-fourths of each chamber: 28 of 40 Senate seats (with two vacancies), and 61 of 80 in the Assembly.

    At the local level, the GOP’s last redoubt, Democrats advanced, too. Earlier this decade, Republicans filled almost half of California’s 2,500 mayoral and City Council seats, which are officially nonpartisan and hence offer camouflage to candidates from an unpopular party. This election flushed them out of that cover. Republicans now hold only 38% of those positions.

    The Democrats’ crushing dominance allows them to use California as a progressive policy laboratory. As a result, the state has the highest welfare numbers (a third of all Americans on welfare live in California), the largest contingent of illegal immigrants, a burgeoning homeless population, onerous regulations on business and private property, mediocre public schools, high income taxes (the highest marginal rate is 13.3%) and sales taxes, a yawning gap between rich and poor, its own summer blend of expensive gasoline, bedraggled and crowded roads to punish people further for driving, and a widely mocked high-speed rail boondoggle.

    To risk an analogy, California is to today’s Democrats roughly what South Carolina was to pre-Civil War Democrats: the showcase state, the vanguard of enlightened public policy offering itself for emulation. Yet it’s been a long time since the state produced political figures of obvious national importance such as Earl Warren, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.Pete Wilson, the senator and governor, seems to have been the end of that line. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s governorship was a box-office flop. Jerry Brown, after 16 years in the gubernatorial chair, still wrestled with the mystery of Jerry Brown.

    Even so, the state has one declared presidential candidate, Sen. Kamala Harris, and one potential contender, newly elected Gov. Gavin Newsom. Having moved its primary election up to March 2—Super Tuesday—the state may actually play a significant role in picking the Democratic nominee this time.

    One-party California seems to follow more than lead the Democratic policy dance. Yet its example remains instructive—especially its attempts to implement some of the party’s 2020 enthusiasms.

    Take infrastructure. Rather than repair freeways or build new ones, Mr. Brown decided to construct the high-speed rail line between Los Angeles and San Francisco. Vowing “hard decisions” and “tough calls,” however, his successor announced in February that “the project, as currently planned, would cost too much and take too long.” The train’s cost, at last estimate, was between $77 billion and $88 billion, four times the funds available. Incredibly, however, Mr. Newsom didn’t cancel the project. He merely postponed it indefinitely, except for the rump railroad between Merced and Bakersfield, for which not a single mile of track has been laid.

    Or consider health care. A bill to create a single-payer system in California passed the Democrat-controlled state Senate in June 2017, only to stall in the Democrat-controlled Assembly when Speaker Anthony Rendon confessed that his party had no idea how to raise the $400 billion annually the system is estimated to cost. (The whole state budget amounts to $201.4 billion.) Last month Mr. Newsom endorsed “the long-term goal of single payer” but pointedly didn’t introduce a bill to achieve it. In the long run, liberals used to say, we are all dead. It will be interesting to see which arrives first: the train or the government doctors.

    The promises of California’s government programs are too good to be true, but also, apparently, too attractive to resist. Karl Marx called his kind of socialism “scientific,” as opposed to his predecessors’ “utopian” fantasies. California appears to be pioneering a third kind, which might be called “infantile.” Our Democrats strongly suspect their programs won’t work and know they can’t be paid for—but want them anyway. To analyze that perversity, Freud might be more helpful than Marx. At any rate, California’s experience offers cautionary lessons on the way to 2020.

  56. JC

    California was the j*%wel in the crown of modern civilization. San Francisco – the most beautiful modern city in the world and LA a middle class dream.

    Look now.

    California’s descent into a one-party state accelerated in 2018. Golden State Democrats picked up seven seats in the House. They now control almost 87% of the state’s congressional delegation—46 of the 53 representatives. Orange County, one of the original strongholds of the conservative movement, is now a liberal bastion. Democrats hold both U.S. Senate seats and all eight elected statewide offices.

    It has been widely reported that in the California Legislature Democrats won supermajorities of two-thirds. This understates their control, which is more like three-fourths of each chamber: 28 of 40 Senate seats (with two vacancies), and 61 of 80 in the Assembly.

    At the local level, the GOP’s last redoubt, Democrats advanced, too. Earlier this decade, Republicans filled almost half of California’s 2,500 mayoral and City Council seats, which are officially nonpartisan and hence offer camouflage to candidates from an unpopular party. This election flushed them out of that cover. Republicans now hold only 38% of those positions.

    The Democrats’ crushing dominance allows them to use California as a progressive policy laboratory. As a result, the state has the highest welfare numbers (a third of all Americans on welfare live in California), the largest contingent of illegal immigrants, a burgeoning homeless population, onerous regulations on business and private property, mediocre public schools, high income taxes (the highest marginal rate is 13.3%) and sales taxes, a yawning gap between rich and poor, its own summer blend of expensive gasoline, bedraggled and crowded roads to punish people further for driving, and a widely mocked high-speed rail boondoggle.

    To risk an analogy, California is to today’s Democrats roughly what South Carolina was to pre-Civil War Democrats: the showcase state, the vanguard of enlightened public policy offering itself for emulation. Yet it’s been a long time since the state produced political figures of obvious national importance such as Earl Warren, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.Pete Wilson, the senator and governor, seems to have been the end of that line. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s governorship was a box-office flop. Jerry Brown, after 16 years in the gubernatorial chair, still wrestled with the mystery of Jerry Brown.

    Even so, the state has one declared presidential candidate, Sen. Kamala Harris, and one potential contender, newly elected Gov. Gavin Newsom. Having moved its primary election up to March 2—Super Tuesday—the state may actually play a significant role in picking the Democratic nominee this time.

    One-party California seems to follow more than lead the Democratic policy dance. Yet its example remains instructive—especially its attempts to implement some of the party’s 2020 enthusiasms.

    Take infrastructure. Rather than repair freeways or build new ones, Mr. Brown decided to construct the high-speed rail line between Los Angeles and San Francisco. Vowing “hard decisions” and “tough calls,” however, his successor announced in February that “the project, as currently planned, would cost too much and take too long.” The train’s cost, at last estimate, was between $77 billion and $88 billion, four times the funds available. Incredibly, however, Mr. Newsom didn’t cancel the project. He merely postponed it indefinitely, except for the rump railroad between Merced and Bakersfield, for which not a single mile of track has been laid.

    Or consider health care. A bill to create a single-payer system in California passed the Democrat-controlled state Senate in June 2017, only to stall in the Democrat-controlled Assembly when Speaker Anthony Rendon confessed that his party had no idea how to raise the $400 billion annually the system is estimated to cost. (The whole state budget amounts to $201.4 billion.) Last month Mr. Newsom endorsed “the long-term goal of single payer” but pointedly didn’t introduce a bill to achieve it. In the long run, liberals used to say, we are all dead. It will be interesting to see which arrives first: the train or the government doctors.

    The promises of California’s government programs are too good to be true, but also, apparently, too attractive to resist. Karl Marx called his kind of socialism “scientific,” as opposed to his predecessors’ “utopian” fantasies. California appears to be pioneering a third kind, which might be called “infantile.” Our Democrats strongly suspect their programs won’t work and know they can’t be paid for—but want them anyway. To analyze that perversity, Freud might be more helpful than Marx. At any rate, California’s experience offers cautionary lessons on the way to 2020.

  57. mh

    Imam Mohamad Tawhidi
    @Imamofpeace
    Serving an ISIS Agenda

    If you’re wondering what type of photo ISIS’ Al-Baghdadi would hang on his wall, look no further than the @nytimes cartoon displaying Je wish people as dogs. Militant Isla mist texts refer to Je wish people as “the ancestors of pigs, monkeys and dogs.”

    Shame
    https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1121904778903203841?s=20

  58. JC

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #2999285, posted on April 28, 2019 at 1:21 pm

    Decentralisation, per se, is a joke. Why? Because the government on the other hand intentionally stifles primary (and secondary) industry. On top of that, we were always highly centralised and now have had socialism and excessive regulation for 47+ years.

    The value of subsidies to encourage people to move to regional areas pales to the value of infrastructure built into cities due to big government and the destruction of value from enforcing anti-development policies in the regions.

    Frank, it’s absurd someone in Tasmania is earning the same legislated wage rate as someone living in Sydney.

  59. egg_

    Shortman thanking the traditional owners of Box Hill , Vic , Which are of course the Chinese.

    Dim sim smoking ceremony?

  60. areff

    Look at policing in Victoria, where knocking the ash off your cigarette is “littering”. Oh, and do make note of the vegetables in the back of the van. If the copper is, as the driver alleges, “stoned”, they’re positively petrified.

  61. That’s true JC. It is also partly why you get high unemployment in remote indigenous communities.

    Another argument for more States and regional autonomy:

    Read the comments on this Guardian article.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/28/it-cant-get-any-worse-why-farrer-is-turning-against-the-coalition

    These inner city greens are actually shilling for the destruction of the Murray Darling’s economy and the lives of millions, for their “own good” of course.

    “Wentworth Group…
    “In a deacde, Deniliquin will look like Innamacka…”

    Words fail. The idea that the capital cities were intentionally wrecking the economy of the MDB was a grievance, not a proposal. A concern, not an instruction manual.

  62. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha I have been at meetings before about which towns belong to a particular ‘nation’. Nothing is ever agreed upon

    I’ve seen examples of two clans who have been feuding for sixty years, and can’t even agree what day of the week it is – the Aboriginal Legal Service in Perth sent up representatives to negotiate an agreement, which lasted three whole weeks – and another, whos’e members detest each other so cordially that simultaneous attendance at the local hospital casualty department sparks off a brawl that the local cops have to break up. How are you supposed to get them to agree on the terms of a treaty?

  63. Mitch M.

    ‘Prozac generation’: Dark truth about life in ‘Lucky Country’

    Earlier this week, The Daily Telegraph reported nearly one in eight Australians — some three million people — are on antidepressants today, including more than 100,000 children, an increase of nearly 100 per cent from 50,804 in 2011-12.

    What’s happening? It isn’t just the huge spike in drugs but also a huge spike in funding psychology services. Not working. A few days ago I was discussing the issues of antidepressants and suicide with a friend, we were trying to figure out why the risk arises in the first few weeks of use or cessation. Now I read this.

    By the constant media coverage and promptings to seek help if one is feeling low are we scripting people to think they are depressed or anxious?

  64. egg_

    If the copper is, as the driver alleges, “stoned”

    Pig flying high as a kite?

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    Decentralization is a good idea.
    It would benefit towns like Bourke, Moree and Wiluna if government departments were moved there.
    Especially since government workers like living in inner cities with nice coffee shops.
    So when the departments move the drones will resign and the positions will remain unfilled.
    That would save lots of taxpayers’ money.

  66. bespoke

    By the constant media coverage and promptings to seek help if one is feeling low are we scripting people to think they are depressed or anxious?

    Yes

  67. Overburdened

    Rockdoctor

    Thanks

    Most people have got no idea but this doesn’t stand in the way of having an opinion.

  68. Calli:

    But it is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices.

    The Dictatorship of the Bureaucracy?
    Confirmed.

  69. egg_

    Despite playing host to more than 20,000 plant species, Australia has only produced five healing plant products since European colonisation. Tim Entwisle takes a look at a recent success and looks to Indigenous knowledge for future advancements.

    So much for traditional medicine.

  70. egg_

    anti-development policies in the regions.

    UNE elites have always eschewed decentralised Industry in New England via having a permanent alderman on the local council, Comrade.

  71. Tel

    Decentralization is a good idea.

    How about moving all of Canberra out to Naru?

  72. Lizzie:

    I am always alert to things that can spark up a basic meal, because I specialize in basic meals. 🙂

    Here’s a sandwich you wouldn’t believe:
    White bread/butter/smooth peanut butter and gherkins sliced.
    Yes – that was my first reaction.
    bloody yummy.

  73. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It would benefit towns like Bourke, Moree and Wiluna if government departments were moved there.

    Department of Indigenous Affairs moved to Wiluna?

  74. Dr Faustus:

    “I am pleased that we got an assurance from all there that there would be no inciting of violence or violence while our convoy is peacefully in Clermont over the weekend,” she said.

    All that is required is someone to accidentally knock down the power lines into Clermont.
    Accidentally, of course.

  75. egg_

    The uber lengthy drive through breakfast queue at the Moranbah Maccas is a sight to behold.

  76. Beachcomber

    By the constant media coverage and promptings to seek help if one is feeling low are we scripting people to think they are depressed or anxious?

    Yes, it is conditioning people to become more dependent on the State.

  77. Mitch M.

    Centralisation always happens across the world and has a long historical trend probably going back to the neolithic. Perhaps there is a sociobiological component to it.

  78. John64;

    (BTW what is the largest margin by which a referendum proposal has been defeated?)

    That was the one where I was put in for Emperor of Norstralia.
    I got three votes – mine and the two cats.

  79. egg_

    It would benefit towns like Bourke, Moree and Wiluna if government departments were moved there.

    IIRC there are online journals from Moree Earth Station of the local blacks taking a piss on the front lawn.
    A tourism feature?

  80. Another Australian plant based medicine:

    https://qbiotics.com/index.php/research/human-health

    “tigilanol tiglate (EBC-46), is a novel small molecule diterpene ester”

    “Tigilanol tiglate is a protein kinase C (PKC) activator and when injected into solid tumours causes PKC-dependent haemorrhagic necrosis, rapid tumour cell death and ultimate destruction of solid tumours.”

    “The drug is not synthetically tractable and is isolated from the Australian native plant Blushwood.”

  81. Geriatric Mayfly

    Despite playing host to more than 20,000 plant species, Australia has only produced five healing plant products since European colonisation.

    Do ‘birthing trees’ count?

  82. Notafan

    Tawhidi conveniently forgetting those texts are also his texts

  83. Steve trickler

    Let’s see what Google does.



  84. Geriatric Mayfly

    Whilst on the concentration of service outlets the word ‘hub,’ is really getting my goat. These bloody hubs are taking over. Even the local, somnolent library is galvanised after years of lethargy, now that the word Hub adorns its façade.

  85. Mark A

    Apropos of divorce and associated problems, the subject came up and one of my older rellies recalled a 1970s? TV show called “Divorce Court”

    Any recall? He reckons it showed clearly what baskets both men and women can be.

  86. calli

    Oh yes. Bronwyn Bishop was in Divorce Court. She played a barrister.

  87. Mitch M.

    Yes, it is conditioning people to become more dependent on the State.

    The important point is that obviously those services aren’t working. In relation to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy I am not surprised because four friends in the relevant fields regard it with barely concealed contempt. Two of them are retired so they can be openly contemptuous of CBT but those still in the game risk career damage for speaking out. As for antidepressants, antipsychotics, and anxiolytics, if people were properly informed of the potential downsides they would not be so ready to consume those classes of drugs. The FDA has just approved the use of esketamine for depression. That’s a disaster waiting to happen because chronic blockade of a major excitatory receptor is just plain dumb but in desperation they have done down that route.

  88. calli

    It was a 60’s show, not 70’s. There was another one called “Consider Your Verdict”. They weren’t too bad at all, considering the pap that’s dished up these days.

  89. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Labor can’t explain 20 per cent payrises

    Labor does not know how its taxpayer-funded 20 per cent pay increase to childcare workers will be delivered.

    Opposition early childhood education spokeswoman Amanda Rishworth said a future Shorten government would consult with the sector on the best way workers can receive an average pay increase of $11,300.

    “We will work with the sector and with the educators to work on a mechanism to deliver it. We have said the quantum of 20 per cent over eight years and we will work with the detail and the staging with the sector after that,” Ms Rishworth said.

    “We want to have a consultative process about how we do it. We are not going to come on high about how we are going to do it. We want to work with the sector to deliver it over eight years.”

    “We have said the commonwealth would fully fund this pay increase.”

    When asked if childcare workers could receive a cash top up from the government, Ms Rishworth said: “I’m not going to go through hypotheticals. As I said, the people that we want to work with is the centres, the peak bodies, the educators and their representatives on how best we can deliver this.”

    Opposition employment spokesman Brendan O’Connor said it was critical workers in the low-paid sector receive a pay rise.

    “We will negotiate with the sector. All stakeholders will be involved in making sure we implement this,” Mr O’Connor said.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  90. Mark A

    calli
    #2999333, posted on April 28, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    Oh yes. Bronwyn Bishop was in Divorce Court. She played a barrister.

    For real?
    Or you jest?

  91. Overburdened

    ZK2A

    Rishworth could be the spur to lift those KPI’s if she was subject to rendition as the Americans would say.

    She would certainly provoke a greater work ethic from the minions at the Overburdened Behavioural Modification Academy.

  92. I wonder if the Synagogue shooter – John Earnest – has any other names?
    Asking for a friend.

  93. Geriatric Mayfly

    “We will work with the sector and with the educators to work on a mechanism to deliver it. We have said the quantum of 20 per cent over eight years and we will work with the detail and the staging with the sector after that,” Ms Rishworth said.

    You have said that about 6 times bint. Treasury seems to be missing from the equation.

  94. Tel

    Saudi Arabia were for a short while looking promising in terms of moving away from a Medieval system of government. At this stage … they appear to be slipping back pretty quickly.

  95. Geriatric Mayfly

    Conrad Black is a magnificent writer and clear thinker.

    Agreed JC and to think he nearly snagged The Age, back in the day.

  96. Overburdened

    BTW

    Now that the fuckwit that assaulted Fraser Anning with an egg has disappeared from the consciousness, it’s unlikely he will undertake the Advanced Training Program with the Bonus Reinforcement Session.

    That is a shame.

  97. Tel

    Despite playing host to more than 20,000 plant species, Australia has only produced five healing plant products since European colonisation.

    There’s an enormous number of undocumented Australian mushrooms, which undoubtedly contain many fascinating substances. I’m not brave enough to go nibbling on them.

  98. Bruce of Newcastle

    Pop goes the e-bike.

    An ‘orange flash’, then Melanie’s house burnt down (SMH, via Jonova)

    Melanie Sandford was sitting in bed on a rainy Sunday morning listening to a podcast about enlightenment when she heard a “huge bang”.

    “A nanosecond later, there was an orange flash that ripped down past the bedroom door,” Ms Sandford said.

    She jumped out of bed and looked down the short hallway to the kitchen, where her electronic bicycle battery had been charging on the floor overnight. She’d walked past it just 10 minutes earlier when she went to the toilet.

    “The battery … was ablaze and the two wooden bench stools were ablaze and the curtain was ablaze. It was a hot fire – some fires you might run towards with a blanket but this was not that kind of fire.”

    The 63-year-old, who lives alone in Leichhardt, ran outside to turn off the power, then back in to grab her computer hard drives and an old dress from her bedroom.

    Leichhardt is a green yuppy paradise. A Green is the NSW state MP, and Albo is the Federal MP. I wonder how many of the Leichhardt denizens will have solar panels and Li-ion battery storage in their houses?

  99. jupes

    Bomber ‘radicalised in Australia’
    A Sri Lankan suicide bomber became “deeply religious” while in Melbourne, his sister says.

    The headline and sub-headline in the Australian bells the cat.

    Everyone with half a working synapse knows that the more religious a M****m is, the more radical he is. However it is very rare to see the link made in print.

    And we continue to allow M****ms to immigrate here because …?

  100. Why would John Earnest have another name? Why would you suspect otherwise? Did your friend think Brenton Tarrant was not a real name either?

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2019-04-27/who-is-john-earnest-the-suspect-in-the-poway-synagogue-shooting

    Earnest, a Rancho Penasquitos resident, is enrolled at Cal State University, San Marcos. President Karen Haynes confirmed his attendance and said in a statement that the state school is cooperating with authorities. The online poster claims to be “doing well” in nursing school and describes himself as, “just a normal dude who wanted to have a family, help and heal people, and play piano.” Earnest previously attended Mt. Carmel High School, where his father taught.

    In the open letter, the author quotes several scriptures from the Bible’s New Testament to justify his beliefs.

    “My God understands why I did what I did,” he wrote in the self-described manifesto.

    ….

    The tenor of the online posting contrasted with Joyce Daubert’s encounters with the Earnest family. Daubert, a Ramona resident, is a retired schoolteacher who taught alongside Earnest’s father at Mt. Carmel. The father, who also has a long history of serving as a lifeguard in La Jolla, was a physics and science teacher at Mt. Carmel until he retired in 2016, according to information he posted on Facebook. Daubert said she was stupefied and heartbroken by the son’s suspected involvement.

    “I don’t have enough words to say how lovely (the family is),” she said in a phone interview Saturday afternoon. Daubert only met the younger Earnest at faculty gatherings but described him as “charming, really impressive, and so sweet and nice.”

    The lesson is not to go down the dark path of anti-talmudic nonsense and hysterical anti banker silliness.

  101. Mark A

    It’s true.
    The cat is a wealth of knowledge.
    The Bitchop really starred, well maybe not starred but appeared in a TV show.

  102. Twostix:

    Ours constitution was abolished literally 50 years after it was enacted, the whole Commonwealth thing was a complete disaster. We need to start over.

    Straight away we need to rectify the problem of the tyranny of distance, mass immigration being weaponised to bring in partisan voters and city vs rural

    It will be of no use unless there is a God Almighty house cleaning first.

  103. dover_beach

    areff, can you add social media share buttons to Quadrant Online, please.

  104. Steve trickler

    Hahaa!

    The female and the flower.



  105. John Constantine

    Free Dental.

    Shorten goes full free dental for pensioners.

    It isn’t his money.

    Comrades

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/28/shorten-pledges-billions-for-seniors-dental-bills-childcare-and-educators-wage-rise

    Free hookers for the disabled next?

  106. Geriatric Mayfly

    Shorten and his mob of spendthrifts are not even on the Treasury benches and they have already stripped the coffers down to the last groat. All this spending must be riding on the back of tourism and hospitality.
    Coal exports would be be lucky to cover half of it.

  107. calli

    For real?
    Or you jest?

    It’s true.

  108. John Constantine

    Morrison – who has set a target of women making up 60% of the refugee intake –

  109. Geriatric Mayfly

    Free hookers for the disabled next?

    There are more costs to this than meets the eye. This idea gets run every so often, with all the gravitas the proponents can muster. A nursing friend of mind was aghast last time it was doing the rounds. “We,” she said, ‘will have to be the ones that lug them into place and get them going, and disengage them one congress is complete.” Shudder.

  110. Knuckle Dragger

    Hmm.

    Apropos of the ‘stoned’ cop, a couple of things:

    If – IF – the cop was off his tits (I didn’t watch the footage though), the blame for him being out in public should be sheeted home to his colleagues. It is impossible to disguise being obviously under the weather when starting a shift, even if you’re a traffic *spit* cop. Naturally, I am not taking into account the possibility of him spliffing up once the shift had started, and was away from everyone else which is certainly an option if you’re a traffic *spit* cop.

    The proper course of action would be for his colleagues, at the first sight of his condition – which is threat to both himself and others, and the community at large, and being a disgrace to The Job – would be to have him dragged outside and given the belting of his life, and threat of suggesting to the higher-ups that he get a blood test for drugs if he complained about it.

    No permanent damage need be inflicted, but some medium-term absence from work is called for – a couple of fractured eye sockets and maybe a dislocated elbow for luck, along with a stern recommendation that he consider his career while at he’s at home recovering.

    The brave officer will then have been the subject of a vicious assault by a group of persons unknown. He will then rethink his priorities while recuperating, and later decide to resign for personal reasons.

  111. jupes

    Morrison – who has set a target of women making up 60% of the refugee intake –

    How the hell will that benefit Australia you goose? We will either get unmarried mothers or the RoP male will bring a couple of wives.

    The ONLY way to keep Australians safe is to ban RoP immigration and discriminate against other people who don’t assimilate. Non-discriminatory immigration discriminates against Australians.

  112. Dot:

    Actually with Tampa it should have just been punted back to Indonesia.

    Should send them back on the piggery ships to the ME.

  113. Knuckle Dragger

    And, yes, before some would scoff, that has happened before.

    Way waaaaay back I was taking part in an LFX with the rest of my battalion and some cavalry punters out the back of High Range. A dude working the 30mm from the turret of an M113 started to get a ‘bit funny’, ie screaming ‘Get some!’ and engaging in a bit of Peter Garrett dancing (as best he could) from the turret in between bursts.

    One of his fellow trackies was concerned to the point where he jumped up behind the offender and fractured his skull with the shovel end of an entrenching tool.

    Several hundred dug-in grunts silently thanked him.

  114. Eddystone

    Steve trickler
    #2999284, posted on April 28, 2019 at 1:19 pm

    Back in the time when race relations were in far better shape.

    Creepy visual opening to be honest…[email protected]:56 Who is she?!

    Victoria Principal. Phweeeeooor!!!

  115. Rabid Koala

    In the open letter, the author quotes several scriptures from the Bible’s New Testament to justify his beliefs.

    Typical media bullshit. His letter is available online, just as Tarrant’s manifesto was and he has other reasons for what he did but the media is choosing to lie instead. If you really want to know why he did what he did you need to read his letter and ignore the media.

  116. Knuckle Dragger

    Black Ball,

    Yes, yes and yes. The current miasma of internecine bickering over land on which someone says may have some value will become a tsunami. As you say, and this is a point lost on the fauxboriginals and luvvies, is that boundaries are fluid.

    Not so long ago the govt floated a proposal for a nuclear waste facility at Muckaty Downs station, about 120km north of Tennant Creek. The site was assessed, as were dozens of others by geoscience people and determined to be the best bet because it sat on one of the most stable rock locations on the planet.

    The day after the recommendation became public an almighty row started between three separate tribal groups who all claimed ancestral ownership of the land but no-one could prove it, the owner of the station (who was a monumental prick anyway) who told the clans to piss off, and another tribal group who had no connection whatsoever with the land but they had cousin brothers who did and why should they miss out.

    Predictably, it all became too hard and nothing was done.

  117. Rabid Koala

    During a later visit from her parents, Loujain broke down in tears and told them the devastating truth. She had been beaten “until her thighs were black with bruises”, subjected to whippings and waterboarding, tormented with electric shocks and threatened with rape and murder.

    She spoke of being woken up in Saudi Arabia’s Dhahban prison by masked men at midnight, blindfolded, thrown into the boot of a car and taken to the basement of a nearby hotel she called the “Palace of Terror”. It was there the torture sessions were carried out.

    Dear lefties, this is what a tyrannical government looks like

    Dear feminists, this is what a misogynistic government looks like

    Where are the protests?

  118. Knuckle Dragger

    Any indigenous affairs office relocated to regional and/or rural Australia will have to be constructed using the NORAD facility in Colorado as a guide.

    Not only will there be queues of locals lining up like it’s a bank on royalty day asking the clerks inside to sort out decades-old family disputes (which they will ignore if they don’t get their way), but the perception will be that’s where the government stores the money we all get.

    There’ll be so many attempts to break into the place it might as well be a Dan Murphy’s.

  119. Black Ball:

    To this observer, it could well be the first step in reparations. What do commenters here think, very interested in hearing other opinions.

    Your thoughts are precisely right, BB.
    It’s about keeping your people in abject poverty and neglect whilst the spivs and lounge lizards rip them off.
    The reparations will attract every scumbag in the Pacific region.
    Like the ‘Apology from Rudd’, it will make absolutely no bloody difference to the kids who wake up next morning after the Mother of All Paydays, to semi comatose parents and rellies. There will still be no brekky, or lunch, or dinner. Just a bag of chips and a can of coke from the hot box at the local servo takeaway.
    When does this madness stop?
    Is there no end to it?

  120. Way waaaaay back I was taking part in an LFX with the rest of my battalion and some cavalry punters out the back of High Range. A dude working the 30mm from the turret of an M113 started to get a ‘bit funny’,

    “Dude”? – “working the 30mm”?
    You’ve obviously played Call of Duty far too often….

  121. Steve trickler

    Eddystone
    #2999369, posted on April 28, 2019 at 3:28 pm
    Steve trickler
    #2999284, posted on April 28, 2019 at 1:19 pm

    Back in the time when race relations were in far better shape.

    Creepy visual opening to be honest…[email protected]:56 Who is she?!

    Victoria Principal. Phweeeeooor!!!

    Thank you.

  122. Mitch M.

    The day after the recommendation became public an almighty row started between three separate tribal groups who all claimed ancestral ownership of the land but no-one could prove it, the owner of the station (who was a monumental prick anyway) who told the clans to piss off, and another tribal group who had no connection whatsoever with the land but they had cousin brothers who did and why should they miss out.

    Funniest example of heard regarding land ownership was when a tribe laid claim to a beautiful stretch of beach at a river mouth on the NSW midcoast. That beautiful stretch of beach was the result of land restoration by a mining company … .

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    Numbers, aka Crayon Eater aka Four Leaf Tayback,

    I’ve never ‘worked’ a 30mm myself. Generally us grunts at the time used different stuff.

    I’ve also never ‘locked and loaded’ my SLR either. The last time I heard that term was when I watched Full Metal Jacket the other night.

    Did you ‘lock and load’ your combat movie camera too?

  124. Mark A

    KD
    Now look what you’ve done, awakened the zombie.
    There goes the quiet Sunday afternoon.

  125. Welp.

    John T Earnest.

    What a fucking loser. If he wasn’t so young I’d say take him out the back and execute him now.

    [and yes, he did use the (wrongly) bible to justify his deeds].

    By the end of it, I felt a desire to urge this imbecile to hang himself in prison and ameliorate society of the burden of even trying him.

    https://pastebin.com/VXXFQMTW

    An open letter.

    My name is John Earnest and I am a man of European ancestry. The blood that runs in my veins is the same that ran through the English, Nordic, and Irish men of old. I am a descendant of one of the original colonists of Roanoke—John Earnest. What happened to him I do not know, and nor does anyone. But I do know that he left his wife and son, James Earnest, back in England. This son shortly after made the same daring journey across the Atlantic to the New World. From my mother’s side I inherited the blood of very wealthy Yankees—intelligent, resourceful, uncompromising. From my father’s side I inherited the blood of poor Southern farmers—intelligent, musically gifted, self-sufficient. A part of my ancestors lives within me in this very moment. They are the reason that I am who I am. Their acts of bravery, ingenuity, and righteousness live on through me. Truly, I am blessed by God for such a magnificent bloodline.

    To my family and friends. I can already hear your voices. “How could you throw your life away? You had everything! You had a loving family. You had great friends. You had a church. You were doing well in nursing school. You could have gone so far in your field of study. You could have made so much money and started a happy family of your own.” I understand why you would ask this. But I pose a question to you now. What value does my life have compared to the entirety of the European race? Is it worth it for me to live a comfortable life at the cost of international Carebeary sealing the doom of my race? No. I will not sell my soul by sitting idly by as evil grows. I’d rather die in glory or spend the rest of my life in prison than waste away knowing that I did nothing to stop this evil. It is not in my blood to be a coward. I do not care about the debt-based currency that Carebears like to pretend is money. I do not care for the bread and circus that Carebeary has used to attempt to pacify my people. I willingly sacrifice my future—the future of having a fulfilling job, a loving wife, and amazing kids. I sacrifice this for the sake of my people. OUR people. I would die a thousand times over to prevent the doomed fate that the Carebears have planned for my race.

    “How does killing Carebears help the European race? The European race is doomed? What are you talking about? These Carebears were innocent!” Every Carebear is responsible for the meticulously planned genocide of the European race. They act as a unit, and every Carebear plays his part to enslave the other races around him—whether consciously or subconsciously. Their crimes are endless. For lying and deceiving the public through their exorbitant role in news media; for using usury and banks to enslave nations in debt and control all finances for the purpose of funding evil; for their role in starting wars on a foundation of lies which have costed millions of lives throughout history; for their role in cultural Marxism and communism; for pushing degenerate propaganda in the form of entertainment; for their role in feminism which has enslaved women in sin; for causing many to fall into sin with their role in peddling pornography; for their role in voting for and funding politicians and organizations who use mass immigration to displace the European race; for their large role in every slave trade for the past two-thousand years; for promoting race mixing; for their cruel and bloody history of genocidal behavior; for their persecution of Christians of old (including the prophets of ancient Israel—Jeremiah, Isaiah, etc.), members of the early church (Stephen—whose death at the hands of the Carebears was both heart-wrenching and rage-inducing), Christians of modern-day Syria and Palestine, and Christians in White nations; for their degenerate and abominable practices of sexual perversion and blood libel (you are not forgotten Simon of Trent, the horror that you and countless children have endured at the hands of the Carebears will never be forgiven); for not speaking about these crimes; for not attempting to stop the members of their race from committing them. And finally, for their role in the murder of the Son of Man—that is the Christ. Every Carebear young and old has contributed to these. For these crimes they deserve nothing but hell.

    I will send them there.

    “Why are you doing this? Surely killing a fraction of Carebears will not solve any problems. Are there not better ways to save the European race?” Yes and no. There are three roles that must be played in this revolution. Those who spread the truth, those who defend the race, and those who continue the race (having children). Where most people misunderstand is that all three of these must be performed by everyone to the best of his ability. There has been little done when it comes to defending the European race. As an individual I can only kill so many Carebears. My act of defense is not so much about my high score—that is how many Carebears I can ‘Do not pass go, do not collect 200 shekels’ straight to fucking hell. But rather the statement that I made. There is at least one European man alive who is willing to take a stand against the injustice that the Carebear has inflicted upon him. That my act will inspire others to take a stand as well. And when this revolution starts gaining traction (if I am not killed) I expect to be freed from prison and continue the fight. I do not seek fame. I do not seek power. I only wish to inspire others and be a soldier that has the honor and privilege of defending his race in its greatest hour of need—and have a family if possible.

    “How can you call yourself a Christian and do this? Surely the Bible calls for you to love your enemies?” Firstly, just because someone calls themselves a Christian does not make them one. Plenty of people wrongfully identify with being Christian. Beyond the scope of time the Father and the Son made a covenant in eternity—that the Son would bring a people to Him that He may be glorified through them. I did not choose to be a Christian. The Father chose me. The Son saved me. And the Spirit keeps me. Why me? I do not know. And my answer to loving my enemies? Trust yids and their puppet braindead lemming normalfags to take one quote from the Bible and grossly twist its meaning to serve their own evil purposes—meanwhile ignoring the encompassing history and context of the entire Bible and the wisdom it takes to apply God’s law in a broken world. Is it lawful to let a thief murder my friend instead of killing the thief to prevent the death of my friend? To ask such a question is to answer it. It is not loving towards your friend to let him be murdered. It is not loving towards your enemy—the thief—to let him murder. A child can understand the concept of self-defense. It is unlawful and cowardly to stand on the sidelines as the European people are genocided around you. I did not want to have to kill Carebears. But they have given us no other option. I’m just a normal dude who wanted to have a family, help and heal people, and play piano. But the Carebear—with his genocidal instincts—is insistent on poking the bear until it tears his head off. The Carebear has forced our hand, and our response is completely justified. My God does not take kindly to the destruction of His creation. Especially one of the most beautiful, intelligent, and innovative races that He has created. Least of all at the hands of one of the most ugly, sinful, deceitful, cursed, and corrupt. My God understands why I did what I did.

    “When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children” (Matthew 27:24-25).

    “I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham […] Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not” (John 8:37-45).

    “For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Carebears: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins away: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost” (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16).

    “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Carebears, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan” (Revelation 2:9).

    “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Carebears, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee” (Revelation 3:9).

    “Hey you, you’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border right? Walked right into that Imperial ambush. Same as us, and that thief over there.” (I forget where in the Bible this verse comes from, but it’s definitely in there).

    (???)

    To the glow-niggers (???) and Carebeared-media reading this. I think it is important for you to know that I did not do this alone. I had the help of a man named Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg (???). He was kind enough to plan and fund this whole operation—the sly bastard. Apparently, Pewdiepie hates Carebears as much as Pajeets. Who would’ve known? Make sure to call me a ‘white supremacist’ and ‘anti-cementite’ or whatever bullshit you spew to spook the normalfags. It doesn’t even matter. You’ve been calling every White person alive those names for decades—they’ve lost all their meaning. You’ve socially ostracized every White person. You’ve made it harder and harder for White people to live a normal life. To this I say well done. You are stupid enough to make a White person’s only viable option for survival to kill all of you. Keep doing what you’re doing Carebear-media. You’re putting the noose around your own neck. The irony is glorious.

    To my brothers in blood. Make sure that my sacrifice was not in vain. Spread this letter, make memes, shitpost, FIGHT BACK, REMEMBER ROBERT BOWERS, REMEMBER BRENTON TARRANT, filter the religious D&C, and filter the schizos who will inevitably call this a ‘false flag.’ Something to note, people grossly overestimate the police’s ability to solve ‘crimes’ such as ‘arson’ and ‘murder.’ Lots of threads about ‘Feds are talking to me guys because I post on 8chan, it’s so spooky’ are ‘organically’ popping up. What a load of shit meant to try to scare the goyim and prevent retaliation. I scorched a mosque in Escondido with gasoline a week after Brenton Tarrant’s sacrifice and they never found shit on me (I didn’t realize sandniggers were sleeping inside though—they woke up and put out the fire pretty much immediately after I drove away which was unfortunate. Also they didn’t report the message I spray-painted on the parking lot. I wrote ‘For Brenton Tarrant -t. /pol/’). It is so easy to log on to Minecraft and get away with burning a synagogue (or mosque) to the ground if you’re smart about it. You can even shoot up a mosque, synagogue, immigration center, traitorous politicians, wealthy Carebears in gated communities, Carebear-owned company buildings, etc. and get away with it as well. If your goal is strictly carnage and the highest score—I’d highly recommend you look into flamethrowers (remember kids, napalm is more effective than gasoline if you want Carebears to really light up like a menorah). I know you’re out there Fire-anon—make us proud. Don’t leave DNA (use clothes you’ve never worn before and a mask—dispose of these after). Don’t bring any electronics which can be used to track you. Don’t leave a paper trail. Don’t take too long doing it, and never speak of it (all electronics are bugged). Again, I’m talking about Minecraft. You do not have to ‘televise’ like I did and get caught. As more of these happen, we will no longer need to film it. I do believe that it is best at this stage that I make a statement and people know that I did this. We are in the early stages of revolution. We need martyrs. If you don’t want to get caught because you have children who depend on you, you can simply attack a target and then slip back into normal life. Every anon reading this needs to carry out attacks. They won’t find us. They won’t catch us. There are too many of us, and we are smarter than them.

    Remember that fear is the only thing holding you back. Fear that you might lose everything in your life. I am a testament to the fact that literally anyone can do this, and this terrifies the Carebear. I’m a 19 year old nursing student from the depths of Commiefornia for fuck’s sake. I had my whole life ahead of me. If you told me even 6 months ago that I would do this I would have been surprised. Meme Robert Bowers back and keep up the memes of Brenton Tarrant. Tarrant was a catalyst for me personally. He showed me that it could be done. And that it needed to be done. “WHY WON’T SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING? WHY WON’T SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING? WHY DON’T I DO SOMETHING?”—the most powerful words in his entire manifesto. Any White man—rich or poor, young or old—who is brave enough can take any action he wants against the tyrannical and genocidal Carebear. You should be more afraid of losing your entire race than this life you now live. The most dangerous kind of man is not one who has nothing to lose, but one who has everything to lose. Every single White man has everything to lose by doing nothing, and everything to gain by taking action.

    Anyone who denounces violent self-defense against the Carebear is a coward. He may know the crimes of the Carebear, but subconsciously he knows that ACTUALLY taking action would mean sacrificing the bread and circus. It might mean that he won’t live comfortably anymore. This is one of the reasons cowards so shrilly screech that Brenton Tarrant and Robert Bowers were Mossad false flag operations. They can’t fathom that there are brave White men alive who have the willpower and courage it takes to say, “Fuck my life—I’m willing to sacrifice everything for the benefit of my race.” He projects his own cowardice onto the White race. To the coward it is just a hobby. He is a LARPfag and a traitor. Ignore him. He has nothing useful to offer. That or it’s just a Carebear shilling, “Don’t oppose us.” Or possibly a schizo boomer off his meds. It’s a shame that Robert Bowers especially got such a bad rap due to the inordinate amount of schizofags and flat-earth-tier-tards on /pol/ right now. Brenton Tarrant inspired me. I hope to inspire many more. To those who are brave—know that your sacrifice is the greatest act of love for your race. Your sacrifice will be remembered. Always.

    KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING. IT’S FUCKING HAPPENING. McFuggen ebin. :DDD

    Lightning round.

    “Are you a Trump supporter?”
    You mean that Sionist, Carebear-loving, anti-White, traitorous cocksucker? Don’t make me laugh.

    “Are you affiliated with any political ideology?”
    Yes. It’s called not wanting to go extinct.

    “Are you a conservative?”
    I am not a useless, spineless coward so no—I am not a conservative. Conservative is a misnomer. They conserve nothing. They’ll complain all they want but they won’t take up arms and threaten their government with death (the only thing that works). Ever heard about the Battle of Athens (1946)? Find your balls again you insufferable faggots. If you do not defend your rights you deserve none.

    “Are you a terrorist?”
    Well, let’s walk through this question together shall we? I’m not wearing the sandnigger equivalent of a durag, my skin isn’t the color of shit, you can’t smell me from across the room, it is socially unacceptable for me to marry my cousins, I do not shout ‘Durka durka mohammed jihad,’ and it doesn’t look like a sadist attempted to play tug-of-war with my nose. So no, I’m not a terrorist.

    “Do you feel any remorse for what you did?”
    The Carebears have depleted our patience and our mercy. I feel no remorse. I only wish I killed more. I am honored to be the one to send these vile anti-humans into the pit of fire—where they shall remain for eternity.

    “Do you feel anything but hatred for Carebears?”
    Disgust. Disgust that a race can become so unrecognizably corrupted that they would commit the most heinous acts that only the most twisted of individuals could put into reality.

    “Are you insane/crazy?”
    I’ve seen plenty of mentally ill patients. It’s heartbreaking and I know what it looks like. No, I do not have mental illness. However, I know the Carebear would love to claim that to discredit me. In his mind you must be insane to oppose him.

    “Do you hate all Carebears?”
    I hate anyone who seeks the destruction of my race. Every Carebear currently alive plays a part in the destruction of my race. Does that answer your question?

    “Do you hate other races?”
    I hate anyone who seeks the destruction of my race. Spics and niggers are useful puppets for the Carebear in terms of replacing Whites. Of course, they aren’t intelligent enough to realize that the Carebear is using them and they will be enslaved if Europeans are eliminated. Do they actively hate my race? Yes, I hate them. Are they in my nation but do not hate my race? I do not hate them, but they aren’t staying. Are they out of my nation and do not hate my race? Fine by me.

    “Why so much hatred?”
    There is no love without hatred. You cannot love God if you do not hate Satan. You cannot love righteousness if you do not also hate sin. You cannot love your own race if you do not hate those who wish to destroy it. Love and hate are two sides of the same coin. I may be filled with hatred, but I am also filled with love. Most people are empty inside—unspiritual and shameful dopamine fiends devoid of all love, honor, and purpose. I cannot imagine a more pathetic existence.

    “Why did you use guns instead of a flamethrower? Wouldn’t a flamethrower have given you a much higher score?”
    Yes. I encourage you to use flamethrowers as well as guns. Use what you think would be best in your situation. I used a gun for the same reason that Brenton Tarrant used a gun. In case you haven’t noticed we are running out of time. If this revolution doesn’t happen soon, we won’t have the numbers to win it. The goal is for the US government to start confiscating guns. People will defend their right to own a firearm—civil war has just started. Stop the slow boil of the frog—prevent the Carebear from using incrementalism. Make the Carebear play all of his cards to make it apparent to more people how their rights are being taken away right before their eyes.

    “Did your family cause you to think this way?”
    Unfortunately, no. I had to learn what they should have taught me from the beginning.

    “Was it your plan to live or die?”
    If I die—I die. I do not care if I die, but I will not sin against my God and murder myself. I plan on living (only you know the outcome).

    “How long did it take you to plan this attack?”
    Four weeks. Four weeks ago, I decided that I was doing this. Four weeks later I did it. I remember a specific moment in time after Brenton Tarrant’s sacrifice that something just clicked in my mind. ‘If I won’t defend my race, how can I expect others to do the same?’ I immediately got to planning, and I never looked back. I never had doubts. I never felt afraid. I never felt anxious—just the occasional nervous excitement.

    “Who inspires you?”
    Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, Martin Luther, Adolf Hitler, Robert Bowers, Brenton Tarrant, Ludwig van Beethoven, Moon Man, and Pink Guy.

    “How long have you been playing piano?”
    Ever since I was 4. It was my favorite thing to do then. It is my favorite thing to do now. However, killing Carebears might change that—I’ll get back to you on that one.

    “What is your favorite song to play?”
    Scherzo No. 2 by Chopin without a doubt.

    To my brothers in Christ of all races. Be strong. Although the Carebear who is inspired by demons and Satan will attempt to corrupt your soul with the sin and perversion he spews—remember that you are secure in Christ. Turn away from your sin. Not because it is required for your salvation—for nobody save Christ can merit heaven based on his own works—but rather out of gratitude for the gift of salvation that your God has given you. Always remember that it is God that is keeping you alive and in faith. All sin stems from the arrogant belief that one does not need God. Satan was so prideful that he actually truly believed (that he, a created being) could overthrow the Ancient of Days—the Creator of all in existence. Satan inspired this rebellion among humanity. Christ alone is the only source of life. Know that you are saved in Christ and nothing—not death, nor torture, nor sin—can steal your soul away from God.

    To the Carebear. Your crimes—innumerable. Your deeds—unacceptable. Your lies—everywhere. The European man will rise up and strike your squalid and parasitic race into the dust. And this time there will be nowhere for you to run.

    And last but definitely not least.

    To the true anons out there (you know who you are). You are the product of /pol/—the product of unadulterated truth. You are my brothers and the best dudes out there. You are the most honorable men of this age. Despite all odds against you, you not only discovered the truth but also help to spread it. Some of you have been waiting for The Day of the Rope for years. Well, The Day of the Rope is here right now—that is if you have the gnads to keep the ball rolling. Every anon reading this must attack a target while doing his best to avoid getting caught. Every anon must play his part in this revolution and no man can be pulling his punches. This momentum we currently have may very well be the last chance that the European man has to spark a revolution.

    Despite this—I’m not worried. I have complete trust and certainty that all of you after reading this will begin planning your attack on the enemy—and you’ll attack again, and again, and again—until either we win, or we die. I know you will do this because you’re true anons. You’re White men. I’m not worried that the whole world is against you. I’m not worried because you are the greatest race that our God has created—it is our duty to keep this world from falling into darkness. White men will not let God’s creation be corrupted and destroyed by the Carebear without a fight. Remember your honor White men.

    More than anything I wish I could’ve seen your faces and fought alongside with you on the battlefield.

    Give them hell for me.

    Give. Them. Hell.

    —John Earnest

  126. Rockdoctor

    Morrison – who has set a target of women making up 60% of the refugee intake –

    Yup & this won’t be rorted by the family reuinion…

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    Jesus.

    Apologies, Mark A.

    I also forgot to say:

    SUCCUBUS!!!!!!

  128. Please release my sanitised copy of the letter from mdoeration Sinclair.

    Why? Because the following claim is utterly, utterly incorrect:

    Rabid Koala
    #2999370, posted on April 28, 2019 at 3:35 pm

    In the open letter, the author quotes several scriptures from the Bible’s New Testament to justify his beliefs.

    Typical media bullshit. His letter is available online, just as Tarrant’s manifesto was and he has other reasons for what he did but the media is choosing to lie instead. If you really want to know why he did what he did you need to read his letter and ignore the media.

    Now why would you lie about this?

    He quotes the bible (NT) several times.

    It can be found here for anyone to read:

    https://pastebin.com/VXXFQMTW

  129. If you really want to know why he did what he did you need to read his letter and ignore the media.

    Because he was an idiot who blamed a whole ethno-religious class of people for not being able to get a date, even with a with a hooker?

  130. Knuckle Dragger

    On to more pleasant subjects,

    The mademoiselle in Gay Paree. Even if OC spray was all over her puppy dog shaped balloon, she would have known allll about it long before she started tapping old mate on the head with it. If it popped, it would not have caused a mini explosion of OC – look at all the non-affected punters around her. The gendarme, had he known there was a noxious substance on it, might have decided there was a threat to his safety and delivered a right cross to that sweet sport between the bottom of her nose and her upper lip, taking her gum and four-to-six teeth out of the equation. Just for wasting his goddamned time.

  131. Farmer Gez

    Creepy visual opening to be honest…[email protected]:56 Who is she?!
    Victoria Principal. Phweeeeooor!!!

    Phweeeeooor!!! and then some.
    What a treat for a teen boy when Dallas and Victoria hit the screen.
    Delvene Delaney had the comedy crumpet covered as well.
    Another Phweeeeooor!!!

  132. Knuckle Dragger

    The Handsome Her café should have set up shop in Clermont, not Brunswick.

    On second thoughts, maybe not. The clientele wouldn’t have been nearly butch enough.

  133. calli

    Thanks, Dot.

    The usual scriptural “justifications” of a spiritual numpty. While cherry-picking stuff that appears to support his demonic hatred, he throws out the vast weight of warnings that will condemn him.

    He is a murderer, a liar and a hater of the apple of God’s eye. It is quite easy to see which master he serves, though he clearly can’t see it. He is a self-blinded fool. He deserves everything coming his way.

  134. The Handsome Her café should have set up shop in Clermont, not Brunswick.
    On second thoughts, maybe not. The clientele wouldn’t have been nearly butch enough.

    New keyboard you owe me, you bastard!

  135. Atoms for Peace

    The ALP scrapped a chronic disease dental scheme about 7 years ago. Its demise helped to pay for another dental scheme. Now, just in time for an election, another scheme.

  136. I agree Calli. He’s going to get an injustice vaccine mighty soon.

    I’d say what a waste of a life, but that would be a lie.

  137. Grigory M

    I also forgot to say:

    SUCCUBUS!!!!!!

    Perhaps you could tell us to whom among the Cat females you – and jupes – refer.

    Alternatively – it’s probable that neither you nor jupes knows the meaning of the word – and you are actually referring to a male Cat commenter. That being so – the correct term is – INCUBUS!!!!!!

    But changing to the male term will not improve your linguistic skills – you will still be applying it incorrectly.

  138. bespoke

    Thanks Frank of Tiles

    Apparently, Pewdiepie hates [email protected]@# as much as Pajeets.

    ?

  139. Colonel Crispin Berka

    ‘Prozac generation’: Dark truth about life in ‘Lucky Country’
    Earlier this week, The Daily Telegraph reported nearly one in eight Australians — some three million people — are on antidepressants today,

    This Prozac generation should just tough it out. Why back in my day when things got tough we just “died of dysentery”.
    https://i.imgur.com/sWrxaAb.jpg

  140. Black Ball

    Thank you for your responses to what I queried upthread. Knuckle Dragger to me it’s like what the hell does the dog do when he finally catches up to the car he has long chased after? This is what will happen in this instance. Much bickering from those who would have fuck all interest in such things unless it lined their pockets.
    As for lining pockets, if you had Carlton in your multis, you could well be a rich man by 6pm

  141. Apparently, Pewdiepie hates [email protected]@# as much as Pajeets.

    Yeah it’s bullshit.

  142. Shit I played that bloody game at school as a reward for doing well in maths or english.

  143. Black Ball

    Ahahahahah Channel 7 with ‘Leadership Titlefight’. I think Don King could organise a fight between these 2 er, contenders. Let them go in the ring for the duration of the campaign, there will be much circling but nary a punch thrown.

  144. bespoke

    Black Ball

    I watched this yesterday. See the ‘progressive’ trying to turn successful native into dependents.

    Link

  145. Johno

    Well Done CARLTON!!!!!!!!!

  146. mh

    Now it’s the Football Association on bended knee to Is lam

    FA to scrap tradition of awarding case of champagne to FA Cup winners out of respect for players’ religious beliefs

    An FA spokesman said: ‘Winning teams will be awarded with non-alcoholic ‘champagne’ for their celebrations in all FA competitions, starting from this year’s Emirates FA Cup Final.

    ‘This is to ensure that we are as inclusive as possible to players and communities who may be prohibited from alcohol, as well as any players who are under 18.’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6952189/FA-scrap-tradition-awarding-case-champagne-FA-Cup-winners.html

  147. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ex Liberal turns on former Coalition mates, preferencing Labor over Liberal at the election
    Anthony Galloway, National Political Reporter, Herald Sun
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    Liberal turncoat Julia Banks has enraged her former colleagues by deciding to preference Labor ahead of the government in the seat of Flinders.

    The decision will make it even tougher for Health Minister Greg Hunt to hold on to the seat, which is on a 7.2 per cent margin.

    Ms Banks, an ally of Malcolm Turnbull, quit the Liberal Party after last year’s leadership spill which brought down the former Prime Minister.

    She chose not to recontest her seat of Chisholm and instead take on Mr Hunt in Flinders, centred in and around the Mornington Peninsula.

    Sources from both Labor and the Liberal Party confirmed they expected Ms Banks to preference the ALP’s candidate Joshua Sinclair.
    Sitting Flinders MP and cabinet minister Greg Hunt. Picture: David Geraghty/ The Australian.

    Victorian Liberal senator Jane Hume said Ms Banks’ decision was “not particularly surprising”.

    “For Julia, deserting her seat of Chisholm to run in Flinders was never about principles, it was always personal,” Senator Hume said.

    “It speaks volumes of her character that Julia believes she can manipulate the voters of Flinders in this weird sponsored personal vendetta. But Flinders voters are smarter than that — they’ve worked her out.”

    Although Labor’s chances in the seat are boosted by Ms Banks’ decision, both Labor and the Liberals expect Mr Hunt to hold on.

    The independent MP is not expected to finish ahead of either of the two major parties, but her preferences could deliver Labor the seat.

  148. dopey

    Landline today: Exports of knuckle to China up 169%.
    That’s a lot of hands chopped off.

  149. DrBeauGan

    Thanks for the loony’s letter, dot. It’s informative, if depressing. Anti-Semitism seems to develop into outright insanity with no trouble at all.

    The rationalisations he offers are just part of the insanity. None of it has anything to do with reality.

    There needs to be a way of identifying this kind of detachment from reality early on; the problem being that it would catch all the religious zealots too, most of them being harmless and often kindly folk.

    There’s something wrong with human brain development in all too many cases.

  150. Des Deskperson

    I didn’t realise – I should have – that Stan Grant was the ABC’s Global Affairs Analyst,

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-28/freedom-democracy-threatened-china-america-west-must-do-more/11048480

    Note that Grant always begins his stuff with a quote from some literary of political classic – this time it’s ‘Irish poet, William Butler Yeats; as opposed, presumably, to the Canadian zither player, William Butler Yeats! This is part of his erudition schtick.

    Apart from that, the piece doesn’t seem to be particularly original, deep or helpful, but what with his ABC gig, his professorship and his think pieces in the Oz weekend celebcult/lifestyle glossy, he’s got a lot on his plate.

    Anyway, it doesn’t matter. ABC TV tonight is showing something called ‘Will Australia Ever have a Black Prime Minister? It will certainly feature quite a bit of Stan.

  151. Black Ball

    Excellent link bespoke. Quite amazing that the woman thinks more money is the answer. Wasn’t it LBJ who said that he would have n*****s voting Democrat for the next 50 years? With programs described in your link bespoke, I find it has been applied here with disastrous results. Shorten is playing this instrument, the tune I do not like.

  152. dover_beach

    ‘This is to ensure that we are as inclusive as possible to players and communities who may be prohibited from alcohol, as well as any players who are under 18.’

    FA never did this with respect to matches on Saturday or Sunday and player’s religious beliefs.

  153. Frank of Tiles

    Wrank Falker?

    Wank Talker?

  154. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Anyway, it doesn’t matter. ABC TV tonight is showing something called ‘Will Australia Ever have a Black Prime Minister? It will certainly feature quite a bit of Stan.

    Staking a claim for the position?

  155. Over a decade later.

    Does this poor woman understand yet that men did not just decide to stop getting married one day; rather it was a long term tolerance of misandry that eventually broke like an overloaded arch.

    Sometimes, Atlas Shrugs.

    Men were not burning bras in the 1970s.

    Women have liberated men and are angry about the results.

    We just wanted to get married and have a reasonable amount of time off. If only the second best options are on the table, then we’ve got to play the hand we’re dealt.

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/child-man-promised-land-13063.html

  156. I’ll settle for Australia having a competent Prime Minister.
    However a Black Prime Minister is more likely to come first.

  157. Black Ball

    ‘Will Australia Ever Have A Black Prime Minister?’
    There will be a time when it will happen yes. But will it be because of talent and hard work or because we just have to have one, like Obama?

  158. Knuckle Dragger

    Black Ball,

    Yeah. I can’t believe the calls for more for this, more for that. History has demonstrated that those who really want success regardless of ethnicity will find it. Look at all the hugely successful fish and chip shops and kebab joints and cosmo restaurants.

    I’ll use Melbourne as a for-instance with the above. Those punters work together as a family group to operate these places, and started by hocking themselves to the neck. Then they and their entire family work monstrous hours, all day every day to ensure the success of their business. They are the friendliest people going around and one of Nonna and Poppa’s first missions in life was to learn and master English – so they could interact with the people in their shops, and thus advance their business.

    Go to their homes. Again using personal experience, in suburbs like Avondale Heights, Keilor, Keilor East and pockets of Werribee there are the ‘wog mansions’, complete with concrete lions on balustrades and brick as far as they eye can see. If you go inside they are magisterial, and immaculate.

    I don’t know what the girls of the family get when they turn 18, but the boys get a flash set of wheels. This is a present for working their guts out at school and in the shop, and for getting bugger all before that.

    Now – these people could just as well have holed up in a houso flat in Thomastown or Sunshine or Ascot Vale or Flemington and spent the rest of their days bitching about not having enough free stuff. Their lack of work ethic is passed onto their children, and when they inevitably have adverse dealings with the constabulary it’s always someone else’s fault. Not enough free stuff and look at the ‘richies’ living in Keilor.

    You can still succeed in this country provided you are prepared to work and realise that gratification is not instant.

    The taxpayer gives $33 BILLION every year to advance the interests of indigenous folk. Maybe Des D knows where it goes, but I certainly don’t – although I have some well-founded suspicions.

    We could give triple that each year to ‘tackle’ indigenous matters, but none of it – not a single dollar – will go to the people that actually need it.

  159. egg_

    Free hookers for the disabled next?

    There are more costs to this than meets the eye. This idea gets run every so often, with all the gravitas the proponents can muster. A nursing friend of mind was aghast last time it was doing the rounds. “We,” she said, ‘will have to be the ones that lug them into place and get them going, and disengage them one congress is complete.”

    Stephen Hawking on Pe do Island?

  160. Knuckle Dragger

    Black B#ll,
    Yeah. I can’t believe the calls for more for this, more for that. History has demonstrated that those who really want success regardless of ethnicity will find it. Look at all the hugely successful fish and chip shops and kebab joints and cosmo restaurants.

    I’ll use Melbourne as a for-instance with the above. Those punters work together as a family group to operate these places, and started by hocking themselves to the neck. Then they and their entire family work monstrous hours, all day every day to ensure the success of their business. They are the friendliest people going around and one of Nonna and Poppa’s first missions in life was to learn and master English – so they could interact with the people in their shops, and thus advance their business.

    Go to their homes. Again using personal experience, in suburbs like Avondale Heights, Keilor, Keilor East and pockets of Werribee there are the ‘wog mansions’, complete with concrete lions on balustrades and brick as far as they eye can see. If you go inside they are magisterial, and immaculate.

    I don’t know what the girls of the family get when they turn 18, but the boys get a flash set of wheels. This is a present for working their guts out at school and in the shop, and for getting bugger all before that.

    Now – these people could just as well have holed up in a houso flat in Thomastown or Sunshine or Ascot Vale or Flemington and spent the rest of their days bitching about not having enough free stuff. Their lack of work ethic is passed onto their children, and when they inevitably have adverse dealings with the constabulary it’s always someone else’s fault. Not enough free stuff and look at the ‘richies’ living in Keilor.

    You can still succeed in this country provided you are prepared to work and realise that gratification is not instant.

    The taxpayer gives $33 BILLION every year to advance the interests of indigenous folk. Maybe Des D knows where it goes, but I certainly don’t – although I have some well-founded suspicions.

    We could give triple that each year to ‘tackle’ indigenous matters, but none of it – not a single dollar – will go to the people that actually need it.

  161. Knuckle Dragger

    BB,

    Yeah. I can’t believe the calls for more for this, more for that. History has demonstrated that those who really want success regardless of ethnicity will find it. Look at all the hugely successful fish and chip shops and kebab joints and cosmo restaurants.

    I’ll use Melbourne as a for-instance with the above. Those punters work together as a family group to operate these places, and started by hocking themselves to the neck. Then they and their entire family work monstrous hours, all day every day to ensure the success of their business. They are the friendliest people going around and one of Nonna and Poppa’s first missions in life was to learn and master English – so they could interact with the people in their shops, and thus advance their business.

    Go to their homes. Again using personal experience, in suburbs like Avondale Heights, Keilor, Keilor East and pockets of Werribee there are the ‘w#g mansions’, complete with concrete lions on balustrades and brick as far as they eye can see. If you go inside they are magisterial, and immaculate.

    I don’t know what the girls of the family get when they turn 18, but the boys get a flash set of wheels. This is a present for working their guts out at school and in the shop, and for getting bugger all before that.

    Now – these people could just as well have holed up in a houso flat in Thomastown or Sunshine or Ascot Vale or Flemington and spent the rest of their days bitching about not having enough free stuff. Their lack of work ethic is passed onto their children, and when they inevitably have adverse dealings with the constabulary it’s always someone else’s fault. Not enough free stuff and look at the ‘richies’ living in Keilor.

    You can still succeed in this country provided you are prepared to work and realise that gratification is not instant.

    The taxpayer gives $33 BILLION every year to advance the interests of indigenous folk. Maybe Des D knows where it goes, but I certainly don’t – although I have some well-founded suspicions.

    We could give triple that each year to ‘tackle’ indigenous matters, but none of it – not a single dollar – will go to the people that actually need it.

  162. Knuckle Dragger

    Attention people.

    After three attempts I have determined that the spaminator detests the term used for Mediterranean folk that rhymes with dog and frog and log and bog and fog and hog and zog.

  163. bespoke

    Stephen Hawking did nothing wrong.

    Apart from believing in time travel.

  164. After three attempts I have determined that the spaminator detests the term used for Mediterranean folk that rhymes with dog and frog and log and bog and fog and hog and zog.

    The one that means “flu”?

  165. Percy Popinjay

    After three attempts I have determined that the spaminator detests the term used for Mediterranean folk that rhymes with dog and frog and log and bog and fog and hog and zog.

    Double U o’ Gee, Squoire?

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh, and a final point.

    The people I mentioned above are also successful because they are not approached by every single real or potential ‘traditional’ relative, showing up with their hand out because ‘skin’.

    I’m quite confident they would be met with a response along the lines of ‘F#ck you, you bloody f#ck!’

  167. Black Ball

    The taxpayer gives $33 BILLION every year to advance the interests of indigenous folk. Maybe Des D knows where it goes, but I certainly don’t – although I have some well-founded suspicions.

    Excellent post Master Knuckle Dragger. I believe your suspicions are well founded. Like most donations to aid foundations, the administration costs are prohibitive. Also, Carlton are shit.

  168. WTF?

    The taxpayer gives $33 BILLION every year to advance the interests of indigenous folk.

    800,000 indigenous folk.

    Far out that is 41.25k AUD per person every year.

    On top of the 22,000 AUD that is spent per capita on everyone.

    Good lord.

  169. Permalink to the redacted copy of the Synagogue shooter’s ridiculous manifesto:

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/04/27/open-forum-april-27-2019/comment-page-4/#comment-2999384

    It was in moderation before.

  170. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The taxpayer gives $33 BILLION every year to advance the interests of indigenous folk. Maybe Des D knows where it goes, but I certainly don’t – although I have some well-founded suspicions.

    That doesn’t include the income from mining royalties.

  171. Mitch M.

    The taxpayer gives $33 BILLION every year to advance the interests of indigenous folk. Maybe Des D knows where it goes, but I certainly don’t – although I have some well-founded suspicions.

    Who remembers ATSIC and why it was shut down?

  172. bespoke

    Some people can live simple lives according to there ability without succumbing to envy, KD.

  173. Knuckle Dragger

    Frank, 5.22pm (I think);

    +1

    What Ms Hymowitz (God you could have fun with that name) fails to spot is the bit where in between all her protests, the ladeeees started it all.

    Endless ads and sitcoms depicting blokes as bumbling dunderheads. A mentality beautifully put in Tom’s WIP offering this morning (Do you feel threatened by your wife? ‘No he doesn’t).

    Watching first hand their fathers and uncles and those of his mates undergoing the personality beat down over time, finishing with mental and financial emasculation in the Family Court. A prevailing idea that getting married is some sort of essential tick on the box for adulthood.

    If I was in my early 20s, I’d look at this type of dismal scenario and think ‘why the hell would I do that to myself?’

    Sorry, chickies. You brought this as a species upon yourselves. Blame the right people for it, but don’t blame us.

  174. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    M o o z l e y is now a banned word. Unbelievable.

    You can get away with a bran-seasoned sultanna’d oat-based breakfast cereal as a proxy, Tom.

  175. Knuckle Dragger

    Bespoke,

    The punters living simple lives are A-OK with me.

    As long as they don’t keep sticking their hand out because perceived institutional disadvantage. And ‘declare war’ on Australia. And threaten to ‘burn the joint down’. And interrupt Anzac Day commemorations.

  176. Memoryvault

    The taxpayer gives $33 BILLION every year to advance the interests of indigenous folk.

    Would it be churlish of me to point out that the $33 billion DOES NOT include monies paid to indigenous people that is payable to anyone?

    This includes all Centrelink payments such as Newstart (dole), Disability pensions, Carer’s Allowances, Old Age Pension, Supporting Parent’s Benefit, Family Tax Benefit A and B, Training Allowances, and so on. Neither does it include Medicare, Prescribed Benefits on prescriptions, Low Income and Pensioner Health and Discount Cards, and so on. It also doesn’t include payments specifically for Indigenous people such as ABSTUDY, and support for remote communities.

    No, the $33 bullion is separate, and over and above all those payments.

    Fvcked if I know where it goes.

  177. Black Ball

    That doesn’t include the income from mining royalties.

    Zulu, are you in a position to say how much royalties are paid to Aboriginal groups?

  178. Knuckle Dragger

    As I’m apparently one of Ms Hymowitz’s ‘non-adults’, after receiving a call from one of my wolf pack I’m going to the pub.

    Because I can. Sunday sesh tart hunting begins.

    I’ll be ‘locked and loaded’, so to speak.

  179. Black Ball

    And I could be wrong, but wasn’t that 33 billion figure over a decade? I recall reading Piers Akerman on this issue many years ago stating this was the number over X amount of years.

  180. Done Deal

    Can someone explain how a bunch of light weight arts degree graduates of the school of socialistic journalism who have never been off the public teat or exposed to the real world can end up running a $1b P.A. publicly funded organization, brazenly advocating for themselves as laughingly being the only media outlet that can be trusted, and now shrilly pursuing whatever bizarre trumped up rubbish an increasingly desperate, previously smug, opposition dreams up? Just wondering.
    I suspect it just shows what a bunch of mediocre people on huge salaries, who wouldn’t get within a bull’s roar of the sums they are on if in the real world and not someone’s lickspittle, will do to keep their sinecures, even if it means helping a bunch of venal morons to get elected to run the country into the ground.

  181. Black Ball

    Good luck in the tart hunting Dragger. Make sure it isn’t lemon 😉

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu, are you in a position to say how much royalties are paid to Aboriginal groups?

    No – the source of my information claimed that said royalties were never properly accounted for, and most of the money stuck to the “big men’s ” fingers.

  183. John Constantine

    Shorten has said he has an indigenous Uncle, so that is close to indigenous PM.

    I reckon billy would whistlecock himself to get to rule as Tyrant for life.

  184. cohenite

    How much is spent on aboriginal folk, above and beyond other citizens PA, is a bit difficult to pin down. Grace Collier says $33.4 billion. Warren Mundine as grudgingly fact-checked by the fucking conversation, $30 billion. And according to some aboriginal activist operating on some dreamtime logic whites are receiving not giving from their black brothers.

  185. mh

    Black Ball
    #2999415, posted on April 28, 2019 at 5:05 pm
    Excellent link bespoke. Quite amazing that the woman thinks more money is the answer. Wasn’t it LBJ who said that he would have n*****s voting Democrat for the next 50 years?…

    Almost. It was actually 200 years.

    But then to be fair, we do complain about politicians not looking past the next election. LBJ was thinking about mental and financial enslavement of US blacks for two centuries.

  186. Black Ball

    https://www.greenleft.org.au/glw-authors/gerry-georgatos

    Would this be the same author in your last link cohenite?

  187. Mitch M.

    I remember reading about Groote Eylandt Zulu. From Andrew Bolt.

    Last I heard half of that population was on dialysis. Are health care costs in the figures above?

  188. JC

    Following on from Cronkite’s post. There are approx 600,000 people who identify as aboriginal in Australia.

    The amount we spend per capita is close to 60k per year.

  189. Mark A

    Completely OT.
    Advice needed.
    Hardly ever watch TV but tonight Pam, the wife wants to watch the new (new to us) version of “The Day The Earth Stood Still ”

    Should we sacrifice the memories of the original seen many years ago as a repeat of a repeat?

    You know, that killer beam from the robot just had to be RED, even in black and white!

  190. cohenite

    Sri lanka protects mosque.s closes down churches.

    “Sri Lanka deployed thousands of security forces on Friday to protect mosqu.s.” That’s because Sri Lanka is worried about retaliatory attacks. One can understand this, but rather than protect the churches from further jih.d attacks, Sri Lankan authorities have “ordered the country’s religious leaders to keep all Catholic churches closed and not to hold prayer services” until further notice. Then why not order the same closure for mosqu.s?

    One must also remember that “Indian intelligence officials warned their Sri Lankan counterparts of the attack just hours before the first bomb was detonated, but the Sri Lankans failed to act,” and they continue to fail the country’s Christians. Also, the Sri Lankan archbishop Malcolm Ranjith believed religion of pieces envoys from jih.d sponsoring states who assured him that the jih.d bombings had “no connection to RoP.” How shameful that Ranjith would believe this, given the pervasiveness of Christian persecution in RoP nations.
    Isra.l has issued a warning to Isra.lis to get out of Sri Lanka and told those planning trips there to cancel them, because the jih.d threat continues. No country is more aware of the jih.d daily. This warning should be heeded by all foreign Christians as well, particularly given the failure of Sri Lanka to protect its peaceful Christians when the government knew attacks were imminent; and also given the appalling followup by the Sri Lankan government and the Sri Lankan archbishop.

    Did it happen? The world moves on, the RoP sits like a giant canker in our collective guts.

  191. Memoryvault

    Are health care costs in the figures above?

    No.

  192. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Angry locals send Adani protesters packing

    David Murray
    National Crime Correspondent
    @TheMurrayD
    AAP
    2 minutes ago April 28, 2019
    1066 Comments

    Former federal Greens leader Bob Brown’s “Stop Adani” protest convoy — designed to elevate the issue during the federal election campaign — will return south tomorrow after a hostile reception in the central Queensland coalmining town of Clermont.

    In one incident this afternoon, a man on horseback rode wildly through the anti-Adani protesters at the town’s showgrounds, knocking over a woman in her 60s, who was struck unconscious and had to be taken to hospital.

    Police arrested him half an hour later and he was expected to face charges.

    Fears that shots had been fired near the protesters’ camp in the town prompted an emergency call to police just before midnight on Saturday. The loud noise was later attributed to fireworks.

    Breaking, from the Oz. Job well done, Queenslanders.

  193. Notafan

    Don’t care about the madame in Paris, except to point out that the screeching was added afterwards and the protests were in 2016 against changes to labour laws

    Not some snowflake in the US as some sharing this vid claim

    Btw why is impossible for her to not realise that tear gas residue had adhered to her balloon?

  194. DrBeauGan

    cohenite
    #2999462, posted on April 28, 2019 at 6:34 pm
    How much is spent on aboriginal folk, above and beyond other citizens PA, is a bit difficult to pin down. Grace Collier says $33.4 billion. Warren Mundine as grudgingly fact-checked by the fucking conversation, $30 billion. And according to some aboriginal activist operating on some dreamtime logic whites are receiving not giving from their black brothers.

    When will the aboriginal industry realise that giving money to aborigines is a white supremacist plot? After all, aborigines had no conception of money until whitey invaded the dreamtime paradise. So giving them the stuff is just a subtle way of corrupting them and dragging them into whitey world. Better, surely, to assert aboriginal independence of the whole, capitalist, idea. Refuse to accept any, guys and gals.

  195. Mitch M.

    Did it happen? The world moves on, the RoP sits like a giant canker in our collective guts.

    Bide your time because for the tide may turn. Surely at some point those who continually seek to defend the RoP will learn about the history and recognise it has indisputably been the most violent of movements. I wish … .

  196. Notafan

    That is rather a slant on the Archbishop’s response to international envoys from various countries.

    The archbishop is not a politician and Christianity is a religion of forgiveness.

    Perhaps some Mus lims will convert.

    That would be nice

  197. candy

    There needs to be a way of identifying this kind of detachment from reality early on; the problem being that it would catch all the religious zealots too, most of them being harmless and often kindly folk.
    There’s something wrong with human brain development in all too many cases.

    DrBeauGan
    Is there a test of the brain that catches anti Semitism though? a cell pattern or something and what would be the test for that, and would it not fit with human rights to test the brain?

    Personally, I am of the opinion that anti Semitism has been around a very very time and even the most rational of people can harbour some of those feelings. Some long ago cultural, historical stories passed down over the centuries, and even now, the British Labor Party have some in their party. think of that – the elite of British parliament has anti Semites in there. I can’t see that as genetic or biological, the co-incidence would be too much.

  198. Notafan

    Isn’t Pat Dodson Shorten’s indigenous uncle?

  199. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I see you have him also dealing with the sagging misfortunes of Brachytherapy.

    Grigory having a go at me again, seems he’s come in specially to do so. I should be so honored?

    Brachytherapy – yes, a very useful and now highly refined procedure for the treatment of prostate cancer in its 7 or less Gleason status. Candidate must have the appropriate pelvic dimensions. Yes, more than five years ago now, recently declared cured, but while still working not wishing to go public on it, Hairy was diagnosed with a rapidly advancing palpable prostate tumor which we were told would in no uncertain terms ‘definitely’ kill him if left untreated. We wisely investigated options. I did mention our treatment choice here briefly some moons ago, guessing anyone needing help could contact me via Sinc. I am happy to say now Hairy’s retired that in terms of the side-effect most feared by men with this awful disease we are both delighted to recommend the procedure highly. Other side effects virtually non-existent too. Check it out on internet sites such as Inspire dot com. Proviso – must be done by a highly experienced duo of urologist and radiation oncologist who have done hundreds of procedures. Friends of ours with the husband undergoing the ‘Da Vinci’ robotic procedure have done far less well. Every case is different of course and so far we feel very blessed.

    Grigs thinks he can ‘get at’ me in this way, on medical issues, and through my dear Hairy, but he fails. Of course Hairy’s stent was in a coronary artery not his ‘aorta’. It may be ‘routine’ but with added severe cellulitis it didn’t feel like it at the time, especially with his history of major DVT’s and then arteritically caused loss of sight in one eye, thankfully turning out not to be of the Giant Cell type, but still serious. Late at night I just liked the brevity of ‘aorta’, a grabbed proxy for circulatory. And for Grig’s information, there is such a thing as an aortic stent – a rather heroic procedure, on the real aorta, the body’s main artery, which the husband of a friend of mine has had, and sadly he is not doing too well with it either.

    As to us both being ‘retired’ and thus ‘aged’, firstly we can afford to retire, and secondly no lady ever gives away her age, especially as her children grow up. Grigs may also like to reflect that I have been commenting here around ten years and always said in terms of looks I was ‘not what I used to be’ even then, so if our advancing years and Hairy’s retirement perturb Grigs, he can perturb away. Anyone who has met me knows I scrub up ok, which I’ve always claimed, and I don’t have a picture in a locked room at home disintegrating faster than I am. 🙂

    Nasty little man, is Grigs. I have had so far a varied and interesting life, though not anything particularly special. The main rags-to-riches story I tell is absolutely true. Only small elements were occasionally tweaked to maintain our anonymity, and for our children’s sake, as I said long ago. I’ve met Sinc and Keith Windschuttle; Rafe and other Cats have dined at our home; and I’ve met various Cats for some fun time drinks. That should be real enough. I suspect I am far more real than some others who come here. Grigs certainly hides his own light behind a huge bushel of shyte.

    But on matters medical, youse should all know that Dr. O’Oirish, whom I consulted today, has instructed me to rest with my sore knee raised high, as I am apparently leaking blood from a ruptured vein or two. You will recall I said my leg was turning a fine rainbow colour all the way down due to a bad fall on stairs ten days ago chasing a wayward child and now youse can call me blackfoot for the next few weeks. Can’t do too much electioneering either, but will try. Gravity, was doc’s diagnosis. Counteract it, was his prescription. Better in four weeks with rest, was his prognosis. And wear flight sox (ugh, just like Hairy does, I hate the thought of those).

  200. Notafan

    What happened to the latest care bear murderer, did his gf break up with him?

    What a load of rubbish in that manifesto.

    He gee’d himself up like a ji Hadi.

    I hope he goes to prison forever.

  201. Some women are pissed

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6801125/Incredible-graph-shows-Leonardo-DiCaprio-refuses-date-women-25.html

    Leo’s ever-growing age-gap: Incredible graph shows that 44-year-old DiCaprio has still NEVER dated a woman over the age of 25

    A groundbreaking graph shows that Leonardo DiCaprio hasn’t dated a woman over the age of 25
    The graph was created by Reddit user TrustLittleBrother
    The visual maps out eight of the Oscar winner’s past relationships
    The youngest he’s ever dated was Gisele Bundchen in 1999 when she was 18 and they stayed together for five years before splitting in 2004
    He’s only dated three women that were 25 – models Bar Refaeli, Kelly Rohrbach and Nina Agdal – before breaking it off
    He’s currently dating 21-year-old Argentine actress Camila Morrone

  202. Roger

    Job well done, Queenslanders.

    ABC QLD TV news going to town on the idiot horseman, gun shots etc. etc. and sympathetic to Bob Brown.

    With typical lack of self-awareness, they appear not to realise that regional Qlders are their main audience.

  203. Mark A

    Notafan
    #2999475, posted on April 28, 2019 at 7:00 pm

    The archbishop is not a politician and Christianity is a religion of forgiveness.

    Perhaps some Mus lims will convert.

    That would be nice

    Why would they?
    If your doctrine tells you that you are in the one and only true and at present clearly all powerful army, why would you desert?

    If you were brought up from infant-hood, indoctrinated to believe, that your way of life/religion gives you power and domination on all before you, then why would you choose to join a meek and humbling religion istead?

    Humans are humans, power, even reflected power is intoxicating to most.

    I don’t have any numbers to back it up, but I guess there are more converts to I..l.m than the other way around.

  204. Bruce of Newcastle

    Perhaps some Mus lims will convert.
    That would be nice

    Nota – We read this news sheet (PDF) today in our church, it has several stories of mus lims recently becoming Christians, despite the kora nic warnings. Brave people, and very encouraging to hear. Internet based ministry is a great way to reach people in the Middle East who historically would’ve been really hard to otherwise contact.

  205. Notafan

    I know they do BoN

    Just hope seeing what the ‘deeply religious’ do in the name of I slam encourages a few more in Sri Lanka.

  206. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Blah. Just responded to Grig’s spray at me, and it all went immediately into the black hole of the Spaminator; not even moderation. Not doing it again, guess I should have made a copy.

    Brachytherapy for Prostate Cancer: recommended, no significant side effects, what a relief.
    Aortic stent: they do exist, but Hairy had a coronary stent. I used aorta as a shorthand, s’all.
    Worries? yes, I’ve had a few. Not all went to plan with the aftermath of the stent.

    Am I Doriana Gray? No. There is no disintegrating pic of me in a backroom around here.
    I still scrub up OK, always said even ten years ago I was not what I once was as a looker.
    Time flies. Hairy still thinks I look great. Whacko! Rags-to-riches, all true. Known by others.

  207. Roger

    Perhaps some Mus lims will convert.

    That would be nice

    Why would they?

    Grace might have something to do with it.

  208. DrBeauGan

    DrBeauGan
    Is there a test of the brain that catches anti Semitism though? a cell pattern or something and what would be the test for that, and would it not fit with human rights to test the brain?

    Personally, I am of the opinion that anti Semitism has been around a very very time and even the most rational of people can harbour some of those feelings. Some long ago cultural, historical stories passed down over the centuries, and even now, the British Labor Party have some in their party. think of that – the elite of British parliament has anti Semites in there. I can’t see that as genetic or biological, the co-incidence would be too much.

    Candy, I don’t think anti-Semitism is a genetic flaw. I think an addiction to conspiracy theories might be. Which conspiracy theories you succumb to will depend on the culture in which you are raised.

    I don’t find it surprising that people who succumb to Marxism are also likely to succumb to anti-Semitism. So its prevalence in the socialist world is to be expected. We are talking about people with a poor sense of reality. The latest loony is not in the socialist camp, he’s in the white supremacist camp, but people in the camp that think race is as real as, say, sex, also have a weak grasp of reality. They share with socialists a need to put individual human beings in boxes and treat everyone in any box the same way as everyone else in the same box. This has its uses, but it’s just a quick fix which often goes badly wrong. You are a woman, but you’d rightly object to being treated as a stereotype. Some people are addicted to thinking in stereotypes. It’s a failure of intellectual development.

  209. 1735099

    With a typical lack of self awareness

    You’re the one lacking self awareness.
    The ABC, (unlike for example Newscorp), reports the news.
    That’s its commission, as legislated.
    Pleasing specific audiences is not.

  210. There is no disintegrating pic of me in a backroom around here.
    I still scrub up OK, always said even ten years ago I was not what I once was as a looker.
    Time flies.

    I agree, i am not the young man with the huge shoulders anymore, but by God hose me down and put me in a suit and damn, i make it look good.

    PS – My wife still rocks a yukata, she has never aged.

  211. With a typical lack of self awareness

    You’re the one lacking self awareness.
    The ABC, (unlike for example Newscorp), reports the news.
    That’s its commission, as legislated.
    Pleasing specific audiences is not.

    Couldn’t help noticing this balanced news reporting organisation got their information from Bob Brown, and a couple of members of the convoy.
    Can’t beat that for balanced reporting.

  212. Gab

    Dear Wormwood

    You’re the one lacking self awareness.
    The ABC, (unlike for example Newscorp), reports the news.
    That’s its commission, as legislated.
    Pleasing specific audiences is not.

    Your affectionate uncle,
    Screwtape.

  213. Peter Castieau

    If any WA Cats work, or are close to the CBD I’ll be at the ground floor of 200 St Georges Terrace (Cloisters Square) tomorrow (and possibly for the next 3 weeks) at election pre-poll.
    If anyone is keen to assist in this (now vital) task I’d be very grateful or even for a few minutes so I can get some lunch or go to the dunny.

    /gratuitous advertising off.click….

  214. Bruce of Newcastle

    The ABC, (unlike for example Newscorp), reports the news.

    News to me.
    My experience is the ABC carefully avoids reporting the news, at least the bits it doesn’t like.
    My work requires me to look for gaps in knowledge, because that is where new discoveries can sometimes be found if one looks. The ABC seems to have more gaps these days than actual substance.

    To be fair Newscorp ain’t great either, especially in the last few years as the younger Murdochs have been exerting more influence.

  215. Memoryvault

    With typical lack of self-awareness, they appear not to realise that regional Qlders are their main audience.

    Unfortunately not, Roger.
    Their main audience is the inner-city crowd in Sydney and Melbourne, who virtually all vote Greens with second preference to Labor.

    It’s a numbers game.

  216. Black Ball

    You’re the one lacking self awareness.
    The ABC, (unlike for example Newscorp), reports the news.

    Is this the same news organisation that still employs Virginia Trioli after she made mental illness signals to a response from a Liberal Party member?

  217. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Just reading the three books I bought Hairy for his birthday in May. He has agreed I need some entertainment while basically chair-bound with leg up. (Doc O’Oirish says I have broken some veins from my knee injury and have blood leakage causing my rainbow leg and blackened foot). Must be something we share, this bad leg stunt. All three books are by Bernard Cornwell, part of the Last Kingdom series: those following The Death of Kings. I am interested in the Uhtred character, because he follows the old warrior way in religion, adhering to Thor’s hammer not a Cross (as many did in the conversion period, backgrounding Odin), even though he sees Christianity’s ‘nailed god’ as winning. Cornwell evokes the religious comprehensions of both sides very well. My researches suggest that Christianity had a lot more to offer in the ninth century than the dying embers of an old warrior tradition could muster. Same for present day seventh century religions too I think.

    I am sure Hairy will enjoy these books on our cruise up to Alaska and on the Rocky Mountaineer train when he gets sick of the scenery (as if), and if I’ve already read them I won’t pinch them off him then.
    🙂

  218. bespoke

    Did I miss someone taking a shot at Lizzie, damn. 😁

  219. Entropy

    If you want to see what a disaster decentralisation can be, look at NSW DPI.
    It was decentralised to Orange.

    All it mans is mid level and program management, plus a chunk of admin ended up there.
    The executive of course stayed in Sydney. The regional staff, what is left of them going sent off to the various statutory Local Land Services which are supposed to do what the DPI once did, but of course LLS are in reality a bunch of regulators so the “service” part is unloved and slowly being weeded out through retirement and general suckiness.

    Anyway, head office is way up the MLC Tower in Sydney and has fabulous views of the harbour from the Bridge out to the Heads. That’s where the boss and their hangers on live. Gotta be near the Minister you see.

    The people actually doing the running of the programs of course spend most of their time travelling between Orange and Sydney. So it is probably just as well they lost their regional staff to the LLSs. At least with mobile phones they are contactable, but of course it is difficult to conduct or meaningfully participate in a meeting barrelling up and down the Great Western and Mitchell Highways. There is the plane I suppose, sort of an up and down twenty minute flight with an hour either end. Might as well drive, which they do.

    Lovely town Orange but.

    Anyway my point is decentralisation has financial and productivity costs which are so great it does not justify it. It might be great for real estate in the beneficiary town, but everyone else pays for it.
    It’s like a cargo cult. Keynesian in its bald faced grab at OPM.

  220. Roger

    The ABC, (unlike for example Newscorp), reports the news.
    That’s its commission, as legislated. Pleasing specific audiences is not.

    Then where was the report detailing local concerns re jobs, Bob?

    Commission not fulfilled.

  221. Roger

    Unfortunately not, Roger.
    Their main audience is the inner-city crowd in Sydney and Melbourne, who virtually all vote Greens with second preference to Labor.

    The inner city crowd no longer get their news from free to air public TV. mv.

  222. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I am sure Hairy will enjoy these books on our cruise up to Alaska and on the Rocky Mountaineer train when he gets sick of the scenery (as if)

    Enjoy the Rocky Mountaineer, LizzieB, the scenery is mindbending.

  223. Cassie of Sydney

    “Personally, I am of the opinion that anti Semitism has been around a very very time and even the most rational of people can harbour some of those feelings

    Candy, I have just come back from spending Passover in Melbourne….even at the Passover Seder we are reminded that Joo hatred has been around from the time of Moses and the Exodus….there are even one or two individuals here on this site who sprout Joo hatred….I am very upset about what has happened at the Chabad House in San Diego….I go to a Chabad Synagogue….the attack happened at the end of Passover…the final day…the day we believe the Messiah will appear.

  224. Des Deskperson

    ‘Maybe Des D knows where it goes, but I certainly don’t ‘.

    I don’t either but my experiences in dealing with tax-payer funded Indigenous organisations – including ATSIC – makes me pessimistic.

    The saddest thing about this is that many of the employees who joined these organisations were good people, intelligent and hard working, butt white guilt and the racisms of low expectations allowed – well encouraged – then to develop poor work habits, as a result of which, trying to get them to do anything usually involved a great deal of time and money wasted.

    One result of this was the emergence, informally of course, of a view that anyone – Indigenous or none-Indigenous – who had worked in an Indigenous APS organisation – particularly ATSIC – for any length of time was likely to be an under performer and that any such person who presented for a job interview should be scrutinised very carefully indeed.

    This was by no means necessarily fair or accurate, but it was – and still is – one of the unintended consequences of affirmative action. I caught up a couple of months ago with an Indigenous bloke who used to work with me. He’s intelligent, capable, hardworking with good judgement (why would;t he be?) but he has spent most of his APS working life in Indigenous areas and as a result his career is f**ked. .

  225. Black Ball

    I agree, i am not the young man with the huge shoulders anymore, but by God hose me down and put me in a suit and damn, i make it look good.

    Conservative voters are more inclined to attract members of the opposite sex. Because of assertiveness etc. Carpe, you are royalty here, no need to explain yourself.

  226. Pedro the Ignorant

    Pat Dodson, Australia’s first abo Prime Minister designate.
    sTan Grant as Communications Minister.

    A swag of fauxbriginal women in the Cabinet.

    Prosperity for all!

  227. Leo’s ever-growing age-gap: Incredible graph shows that 44-year-old DiCaprio has still NEVER dated a woman over the age of 25

    Men are attracted to youth and beauty. Women are attracted to power and money.

    So girls, the more strong and independent you are, the less we like you.

  228. bespoke

    Cassie, you guys are just the easy target of envy but that is just my simplistic interpretation. We have more people with time on there hands to brood over such things.

  229. Leigh Lowe

    Black Ball

    #2999423, posted on April 28, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    ‘Will Australia Ever Have A Black Prime Minister?’

    And how could we tell?

  230. Overburdened

    BCP on his YouTube channel appeals to the black American conservative demographic. I have been following him for some time and only rarely have been questioning of some of his declarations.

    His current episode re the 3.2% GDP result for the American economy attempts to explain what this means for America and the reasons for the result.

    Not having enough background information, I cannot comment on his accuracy, however he presents as an American patriot who is pleased with the Trump administration’s efforts. I wonder some times if BCP massages the facts to suit his narrative.

    What I can say is that given the results achieved by President Trump in the face of a paralysed government due to the Democrat party’s bastardry and their piss poor social justice/ climate holocaust narrative, none of which stands up to scrutiny on any metric, he deserves to be re-elected in a canter with an increased majority.

    I think that whether you like President Trump or not, his workmanlike approach and transparency during the post election what-tha circus has been admirable.

  231. C.L.

    If you want to watch a train wreck – live – check out Hamish Blake’s Lego Masters (Nine).
    Possibly the worst television program ever conceived.

  232. Roger

    Black Ball

    #2999423, posted on April 28, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    ‘Will Australia Ever Have A Black Prime Minister?’

    Given the calibre of incumbents over the last decade or so, shouldn’t the question be “Will Australia ever have a competent Prime Minister?”

  233. Crossie

    When will the aboriginal industry realise that giving money to aborigines is a white supremacist plot? After all, aborigines had no conception of money until whitey invaded the dreamtime paradise. So giving them the stuff is just a subtle way of corrupting them and dragging them into whitey world. Better, surely, to assert aboriginal independence of the whole, capitalist, idea. Refuse to accept any, guys and gals.

    This is so funny but also absolutely correct. When you don’t have to exert yourself to provide for yourself and your family there is no point to life or anything, it can only lead to nihilism and tragedy.

  234. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lovely town Orange but.

    Entropy – Easy peasy.
    Just get Gladys to pronounce an edict that public servants must take public transport because public.
    The Orange public servants would then whip down the hwy to Lithgow and catch the train, whereupon they can conduct oodles of government business by phone and wifi.
    So long as they don’t do so in the quiet carriages.

  235. Cassie of Sydney

    “bespoke
    #2999513, posted on April 28, 2019 at 7:52 pm
    Cassie, you guys are just the easy target of envy but that is just my simplistic interpretation. We have more people with time on there hands to brood over such things.”

    Yep….it’s not a simplistic interpretation….you’re right Bespoke….I get very depressed about this.

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