Is he really allowed to say this in public?

UPDATE: With thanks to duncanm who has found the speech online.

And is a newspaper allowed to print it as well: Mark Latham unleashes in maiden speech: How did our nation come to this? This is only one passage in a much longer speech.

“Like so many parts of our politics that have changed quickly in recent times, there are voices here who do not believe in the virtues of the West, who do not acknowledge the nation-building achievements of our culture and our country.

“It’s like a scene from The Life of Brian, a case of: What has Western civilisation done for us? Only advanced healthcare and education; architecture, engineering, information technology, free speech and the rule of law.

“ In fact: this chamber, this parliament, in this city, all our public institutions and the material comforts we take for granted — none of them could exist without the greatness of the West. Without the advances that began with the Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution and continue to this day.

“Yet still, among the Leftist elites, among the social engineers and cultural dietitians, sneering at our civilisation and its achievements has become their new pastime.

“They preach diversity but practice a suffocating cultural conformity, wanting everyone to be just like them.

“They argue for inclusion but as soon as a Christian, a conservative, a libertarian, a nationalist, a working class larrikin, an outsider from the vast suburbs and regions of our nation disagrees with them, they crank up their PC “outrage machine to exclude them from society. “

They are tolerant of everything except dissenting values and opinions — meaning, of course, they are tolerant of nothing that matters, only themselves.”

Mr Latham said this was a “Leftist curse through the ages: the recurring history of those who so badly crave control over others, they lose control over themselves.”

Lots more along the same lines with this the final para:

“ For those of us who believe in the virtues of Western civilisation, who treasure the advances and values of the Enlightenment … this is the fight of our lives. Our ethos, sir, is simple: No surrender. No surrender in any debate, in any institution, on any front. No surrender in trying to take back our country, That, Mr President, is why I’m here and what I’m fighting for.”

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66 Responses to Is he really allowed to say this in public?

  1. Cat

    Bravo Latham!! Wish more politicians spoke the unvarnished truth. He is right- we are in a fight to save our civilisation no less.

  2. Confused Old Misfit

    Is he really allowed to say this in public?

    Yes.

  3. Grumbles

    Hard to believe Latham was once the leader of the ALP

  4. min

    I was at a lecture given by Professor Bauerlein from Emory University on the same subject. The classics are not being taught any more . I remarked that at least the classics were beuing taught in private schools here to the young woman who was sitting next to me . She told me that she was an English Literature teacher at a well known private girls’ school and they had been taken off the reading list this year. My grandson who is studying Measure for Measure this year told me that a boy from the States said The Grapes of Wrath is banned there now I am wondering how that play of the Bard got through here considering female treatment in the play.

  5. Jannie

    I don’t think he is allowed to say this sort of thing in public. It’s offensive and hateful to the controllers. He will be banned or sent to a psychiatric institution.

  6. J.H.

    Well said….. His ex Labor party mates are not going to like him one bit in the Senate.

  7. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    No surrender in any debate, in any institution, on any front. No surrender in trying to take back our country, That, Mr President, is why I’m here and what I’m fighting for.”

    Churchillian.

    People have been so much longing for a voice that rallies them.
    Let’s hope this works.

  8. Sunni Bakchat

    Fantatstic speech. Pity the transcript can’t be found other than on Latham’s facebook page. Is he relying on the mainstream media to spread the message?

  9. Mother Lode

    Is he really allowed to say this in public?

    Parliamentary privilege.

    You can imagine the lefties sitting in the chamber smouldering at this cavalcade of ‘hate’ speech: ‘The West’, The Enlightenment’, ‘Civilisation’, ‘Opinions’ – and you know when he he said ‘Education’ he was talking about merit and individual skills, not the seamless harmony of ‘The Young Pioneers of Tomorrow.”

  10. Mother Lode

    I honestl think the fallout of that menacing handshake with Howard all those years ago might have been one of the single best things that ever happened to Latham.

  11. I’ve always wondered why Latham was a Labor member when, more so in later life, he displayed characteristics like this that are anything like Labor, certainly modern Labor. Contrast that to Turnbull who displayed nothing but modern Labor values.

  12. Suburban Boy

    Hard to believe Latham was once the leader of the ALP

    Hard to believe the ALP once would have agreed wholeheartedly with Latham’s (current) sentiments.

  13. mh

    And remember Mark, Sinclair says that

    Mark has a standing invitation to guest post.

  14. miltonf

    Latho is one hell of a guy. Thing I like about him is he is westie who still lives in the west. From apparatchik to Aussie patriot.

  15. Angus Black

    Latham is what we need right now, a fighter for truth, justice and the Australian way (with apologies for the paraphrasing).

    Our society is committing suicide.

  16. Percy Popinjay

    Hard to believe Latham was once the leader of the ALP

    Which is why I will never believe anything he ever says. About anything.

  17. miltonf

    Peter Walsh, Graeme Campbell, John Button were good men.

  18. Which is why I will never believe anything he ever says. About anything.

    Everyone should be given the benefit of the doubt and a second chance and, given what he’s saying (and has been saying for a while), I think he may have truly reformed. He’s alienated himself from the Labor Party and all on the Left, so he’s certainly given up a lot if he’s not genuine.

  19. miltonf

    Sorry Graeme Campbell is still with us.

  20. miltonf

    He’s alienated himself from the Labor Party and all on the Left, so he’s certainly given up a lot if he’s not genuine.

    That’s exactly right- would have been much easier to fall into line and regurgitate approved ALP talking points.

  21. candy

    He’s more in line with the old type Labor Party perhaps? It’s a good thing to throw that into the mix. Possibly One Nation will draw off more Labor votes in the future.

  22. Cynic of Ayr

    Hard to believe, but there it is.
    Latham has had time to reflect on the insidious debacle that is his former Party, and seems to have come to some conclusion.
    One can only hope that he inspires others to talk the talk, and walk the walk. Good luck with the Libs on that idea, Markus.
    Just exactly what that conclusion is, is not clear to me, but what is clear is that he has abandoned Labor. Where he is now may not be permanent, but who knows?

  23. miltonf

    When confronted by evidence you change your mind. I was the most rusted on Liberal but after the Trumble putsch I can’t see myself voting for them ever again. And again, looking back on the Howard era and particularly actions of Kemp and Downer makes you think that they weren’t that good. But that doesn’t mean the ALP are better.

  24. Some History

    Another rare “non-conformer”, a candidate for leftist “re-education”.

    From Snowdon’s blog:

    Liberal politician says something liberal, BBC shocked

    Norway’s newly appointed health minister has caused controversy by saying people should be allowed to eat, smoke and drink “as much as they want”.

    How depressing that a simple assertion of liberalism should be seen as ‘controversial’, at least to the BBC. She’s a breath of fresh air. More politicians like this, please.

    Sylvi Listhaug also said smokers were made to feel like pariahs.

    https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2019/05/liberal-politician-says-something.html

  25. Dr Fred Lenin

    Well said that man. The last true Australian keader of the former workers party ,since he left they have been run by a bunch of aspiring capitalist untidy nayshunists ,looks like PHON might be the next Real Workers Party ,not part of the UNiparty .

  26. Rossini

    Not receiving much press………..more interested in BS down trodden mum

  27. I don’t understand why he became a state politician instead of having another go at the federal level. He’ll be ignored.
    For those who haven’t been following him these last few years, Latham is well to the right on social issues (though not what’s called far right) and slightly left on fiscal issues (though would still be well to the right of tits Shorten).

  28. duncanm

    Just working my way through his speech.

    At 17:40 – he mentions a bias in recruitment study.. which found that the only people discriminated in hiring were white males.

    Surprised that such a conclusion would actually be written down — I searched.

    Here’s a link

    From the summary:

    What we found is that de-identifying applications at the shortlisting stage of recruitment does not appear to assist in promoting diversity in hiring. In fact, in the trial we found that overall, APS officers generally discriminated in favour of female and minority candidates

  29. miltonf

    yes I thought he’d go much better in the Senate. I’m sure he would have got in easily

  30. duncanm

    Hilarious.

    Old white men were the most likely to positively discriminate in favour of women and minorities:

    Interestingly, male reviewers displayed markedly more positive discrimination in favour of minority candidates than did female counterparts, and reviewers aged 40+ displayed much stronger affirmative action in favour for both women and minorities than did younger ones.

  31. The BigBlueCat

    Baa Humbug
    #3008317, posted on May 9, 2019 at 10:57 am
    I don’t understand why he became a state politician instead of having another go at the federal level. He’ll be ignored.
    For those who haven’t been following him these last few years, Latham is well to the right on social issues (though not what’s called far right) and slightly left on fiscal issues (though would still be well to the right of tits Shorten).

    I was thinking the same, but I remembered that Pauline Hanson invited him to run for NSW parliament – I doubt she would want someone as politically experienced as Latham with her in the Senate – he would make her antics look trite and confected (which they are) while he would dominate with reason and logic.

    But well done Mark Latham – even though you were a boofhead when you went up against Howard, at least now you have a different view on life. Hopefully, you will leave your leftist economic views far behind while you trumpet Western Civilisation, family values, the rights of the individual to free speech and religious expression and the fight against political correctness.

    All in all, a speech that should have been made by either a Liberal or a National party member – but unfortunately that ship has sailed. Maybe with Latham’s voice being in an Australia parliament (albeit a state one) will cause others to rally around the message. While I don’t see Pauline Hanson as being a great leader, and many of her party are self-destructive, perhaps Latham can be someone who can set a standard – if he can keep control of his words – his maiden speech was written down, after all ….

  32. Hopefully, you will leave your leftist economic views far behind while you trumpet Western Civilisation, family values, the rights of the individual to free speech and religious expression and the fight against political correctness.

    He is and always has been right of the ALP, PHON and the LNP. Read his book (Civilising Global Capital).

    All in all, a speech that should have been made by either a Liberal or a National party member

    Yes indeed.

  33. Roger

    … none of them could exist without the greatness of the West. Without the advances that began with the Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution and continue to this day.

    A suggestion for Mark:

    Read Larry Siedentop’s ‘Inventing the Individual‘ and discover where the roots of the West really lie.

    Anyone fighting for our heritage should be familiar with this book’s thesis.

  34. JohnJJJ

    Interestingly, male reviewers displayed markedly more positive discrimination in favour of minority candidates than did female counterparts, and reviewers aged 40+ displayed much stronger affirmative action in favour for both women and minorities than did younger ones.

    I’ve seen it in a hundred companies – never hire someone who will compete with you. It happens both ways. Women hire sensitive soy boys. No competition in the workplace. I am sure if lobsters were running HR it would be the same technique of keeping out competitors.

  35. John A

    Roger #3008352, posted on May 9, 2019 at 11:50 am

    … none of them could exist without the greatness of the West. Without the advances that began with the Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution and continue to this day.

    A suggestion for Mark:

    Read Larry Siedentop’s ‘Inventing the Individual‘ and discover where the roots of the West really lie.

    Anyone fighting for our heritage should be familiar with this book’s thesis.

    Thanks Roger.

    Just bought the Kindle edition – it is now part of my reading list.

  36. Roger

    Thanks Roger.

    Just bought the Kindle edition – it is now part of my reading list.

    Prepare to be enlightened, John.

    🙂

    I should mention that (afaik) Siedentop is a secular J 3 w so he has no religious axe to grind. He simply considers the history without the anti-religious bias of most historians of ideas.

  37. Percy Popinjay

    Latham espouses left wing economic policies, believes in catastrophic human induced climate change and is as mad as a meataxe.

    No thanks.

  38. vicki

    Read Larry Siedentop’s ‘Inventing the Individual‘ and discover where the roots of the West really lie.

    Yep. The importance & responsibility of the individual has its roots in the Judaeo-Christian tradition – but particularly in Christian thought.

  39. Elderly White Man From Skipton

    Latham only consistent position is having his bum resting on leather.

  40. Iampeter

    Is he really allowed to say this in public?

    Why not? He’s not saying anything controversial or even correct. This is why the enemies of the West can rest easy. It’s so called defenders are doing their job for them.

    The West isn’t Christian, or nationalist, or conservative. It is the worlds first and only rational and individualistic culture. This approach to life on earth is why it is so successful, reason and rights being the factual requirements for mans life.
    This approach is also completely radical, which is why it is so distinct from any other culture, which are all mystical and collectivist (basically “conservative”) in one way or another.

    Now if he had said something like this, then you could be taken aback as to how he gets away saying it in public. But what he did say was just the usual embarrassing superficiality and misintegration that typifies today’s “political discourse.”

  41. Tim Neilson

    Roger
    #3008352, posted on May 9, 2019 at 11:50 am

    As you’ll see from certain comments on this thread, there are none so blind as those that will not see.

  42. Rohan

    He’s more in line with the old type Labor Party perhaps?

    That’s where his economic polices lie. On the social side, he’s centre right over than anything else.

  43. Percy Popinjay
    #3008404, posted on May 9, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    Latham espouses left wing economic policies

    Yes PP – yet still right of the LNP!

  44. Robbo

    A good speech that touched on important issues not only to NSW but also the rest of Australia. Latham has matured enormously from his time as a Labor MP and it goes to show that we shouldn’t write off all individuals as hopeless.

  45. David Brewer

    Hmmm, a former alternative Prime Minister is elected with the highest personal vote to the upper house of the country’s largest State, and in his maiden speech launches attacks on every important policy now being implemented in education, energy, infrastructure, immigration, employment, censorship etc.

    Big news. I am wondering when our national broadcaster, the ABC, is going to interview him in-depth and then devote substantial time to a thorough, reasoned and balanced analysis and debate of his suggestions.

    Surely this is essential to the proper functioning of a mature democracy?

  46. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sometimes the times are ripe for a Wild Card.
    Latham is certainly that and I’m prepared to give him a go.
    He’s not a climate loon, just politically cautious on it.
    This country does need a strong voice for a turn-around of the lunacy.
    The other option for a Wild Card is Clive Palmer. I’ve far more worries about him.

  47. Clive Palmer and Al Gore go hand in hand. What’s in it for me?

  48. jupes

    People have been so much longing for a voice that rallies them.

    Well it wasn’t even reported that he had made a speech in the West Australian.

    He can only rally people if the press report it. Unless he goes completely over the top, I predict there will be minimal reporting of Latho.

  49. jupes

    I disagree with Latho on the RoP, and I am a “denier” on climate but nevertheless I still believe he is one of the top couple of politicians in the country. He is certainly the most articulate and has the best cut-through messaging.

    Even on those issues I disagree with him, he is not naive about policies regarding them.

  50. MACK

    I liked this bit:
    “Sure, they’re still committed to young people learning the alphabet, but it’s the LGBTQIWTF version.”

  51. Deplorable

    Hard to believe Latham was once the leader of the ALP

    Which is why I will never believe anything he ever says. About anything.


    When he was made leader he expressed some of the views he just put to the chamber. The communists were so frightened they destroyed and removed him. I hope he now is able to screw the communists.

  52. I predict there will be minimal reporting of Latho.

    Unfortunately, I think you are correct. This is the easiest way to silence your opponents.

  53. vicki

    The other option for a Wild Card is Clive Palmer. I’ve far more worries about him.

    He’s the one to watch, Lizzie. And his largest group of supporters is in the 18-25 age group.

  54. duncanm

    David Brewer
    #3008530, posted on May 9, 2019 at 4:44 pm

    Hmmm, a former alternative Prime Minister is elected with the highest personal vote to the upper house of the country’s largest State

    .. and not just by a bit, either.

    He polled over 18,000 direct votes. Next (Shoebridge) was 11,000.

  55. Habib

    Peter Walsh, Graeme Campbell, John Button were good men. Have to disagree about Button, had dealings with that piece of shit as a minister. A complete “good German” douchenozzle. We hated Walsh at the time (Commonwealth employee) but in hindsight I wonder what he was doing with that rabble.

    I heartily recommend “Confessions of a failed Finance Minister”. By keeping the bag on a myriad of dickheads he made the Hawke regime look a lot better than it deserved.

  56. Crossie

    I just finished watching the recording. Mark, well done. My vote has not been wasted.

  57. Crossie

    One other thing, while watching the recording I was hypnotised by the pale head two rows behind Mark.

  58. Crossie

    Grumbles
    #3008033, posted on May 8, 2019 at 11:56 pm
    Hard to believe Latham was once the leader of the ALP

    By the same token I am finding it impossible to vote for the ostensible conservative party of Australia – the Liberals.

  59. max

    This new Mr Latham still sound like socialist to me, his religion is statism.

    Did he ever apologise anywhere for his pass wrongs which brought this what we have today.

  60. Helen

    max, I think actions are bigger than words and mean more. I’d give him a pass on any apologising, if he just gets on and gets it done.

  61. Iampeter

    This new Mr Latham still sound like socialist to me, his religion is statism.

    Yes, he would make a good Christian. You should love him Max.
    Until you can reject worshiping and gods, you can’t oppose statists, which are just the same thing as the religious.

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