Guest Post – Justinian The Great – Climate Insanity: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words and More of Your Dollars

Climate Insanity: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words and More of Your Dollars

Bill Shorten wants 50% renewable energy by 2030 to save the planet from the Japanese.

Below is the Kobe 2,700 MW coal fired power plant in Japan.

Stage one of the power plant was a 1,4000 MW coal plant which was completed in 2002

Currently under construction are 2 new coal plants that will come on line in 2022.

When they do, total Kobe coal fired power plant will be 2,700 MW.

Also coming on-line soon is 1,248 MW gas plant.

Kobe Steel energy generation since 2002 soon to be almost 4,000 MW of CO2 belching fossil fuels.

Kobe Steel annual emissions estimated at 14 million tonnes per year when completed.

Australia’s Paris commitment is to reduce 81 million tonnes per year (based on 2016 levels).

One coal and gas plant in Japan and 17% of Australia’s Paris sacrifice wiped out in aninstant.

It will probably run on Australian coal.

KOBE

Kobe Power Plant, Kobelco Power Kobe, Inc.

Below is Hazelwood. The 1,600 MW coal fired plant we had to shut down to save the planet from the Japanese.

It used to run on Australian coal.

HAZELWOOD


Image result for hazelwood power station

According to our politicians and government officials we need to pay more and do more to save the planet.

Labor policy: Renewable energy plus storage is the cheapest source of new energy. This despite having failed to cost their policy.

Where as Japanese government officials “justify their reliance on coal by citing cost, security of supply concerns and the need for a diverse energy mix.”

Japan Policy: Coal power plants are “necessary” because “the resource is cheap and more economical with scale,” Shogo Tanaka, Director of the Energy Strategy Office at METI, told the Nikkei Asian Review.”

What was that about the cost of inaction again?

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39 Responses to Guest Post – Justinian The Great – Climate Insanity: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words and More of Your Dollars

  1. Herodotus

    Our politicians and media are guilty of crimes against the Australian people by their complicity with the climate scam.
    You can add teachers and activists to that list.

  2. lotocoti

    The Centre for Climate Repair will be sort things out for a couple of billion.
    Per annum.
    Just like any long firm fraud, it’ll be a nice little earner.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    The greenies are wringing their hands that the Chinese are building hundreds of new coal fired power stations despite telling the climate world they were going to save the planet!

    China coal power building boom sparks climate warning (BBC, 26 Sept)

    Building work has restarted at hundreds of Chinese coal-fired power stations, according to an analysis of satellite imagery. The research, carried out by green campaigners CoalSwarm, suggests that 259 gigawatts of new capacity are under development in China.

    For instance, in September last year, China’s National Energy Administration ordered a group of plants – that together could produce 57 gigwatts of electricity – to slow down construction. The organisation also prohibited them from connecting to the grid in 2017.

    However the satellite data suggests that half of this capacity appears not to have slowed down at all.

    That is about eight times more than all the electricity generation capacity we have.

    Isn’t amazing that the Chinese are telling the Left one thing and then doing something else? Why you might think they have decided, like Napoleon, never to interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake.

  4. stackja

    Australian voters let the scam win.

  5. cohenite

    The scammers are not to blame; alarmism took decades to take hold; it is nothing more than a repackaging of the Eden myth wrapped up in King Canute. The people flogging it are key players: educators, bureaucrats, media and spivs- banks and credit institutions. The picture was complete when the pollies got caught up in it.

    So it’s about money, power and egos with a strong splash of ideology.

    Good luck beating that with evidence, reason and science.

  6. Tel

    When I were a lad, people would have on the wall a painting with a picturesque homestead sporting a lovely stone fireplace and that warm curl of smoke coming out and wafting into the sky so you knew a family lived there.

  7. RobK

    Australia seems to have a blind spot where it comes to energy security. We cant even store enough liquid fuel to meet our agreed standards for economic safety.
    The Hazelwood photo is one of nature’s gifts in stored energy security. Known reserves at the door of the power plant is something many countries would pay dearly for . Security is for when things go wrong. We are complacent. Large storms cloud solar and wreck wind power production. A large volcanic eruption can knock out effective sunlight and calm wind power for days and weeks without notice. Even without extreme events renewables resources vary on all time scales from parts of a second to years.
    The pit by the Hazelwood plant is a bankable certainty to power our economy. A photo of a windpower factory is an image of agrarian opportunism that requires contingency and high costs to generate certainty.
    It is foolish to turn our back on the gift of coal.

  8. Squirrel

    “Kobe Steel energy generation since 2002 soon to be almost 4,000 MW of CO2 belching fossil fuels.”

    But surely some of that steel will come to Straya in the form of lovely, shiny hybrid/electric cars – which will be paid for with export earnings from our coal (it only causes air pollution when it’s used locally….) – so everything will be OK, and all the people with nice, well paid B/S jobs (which do nothing to earn export dollars) will feel really good about themselves as they drive around in their “clean green” cars.

  9. Iva Right

    Blame no-one but the idiot Australian electorate. We have signed our own economic death warrant no matter who wins. With Shorten it becomes immediate and brutal euthanasia, with Morrison it becomes a protracted and lingering malaise!

  10. RobK

    Another important factor in power engineering is peak demand. Every expert in the transition to renewables makes a big point of “demand management “. This is because it is almost impossible to reliably match RE supply with demand over extended periods. Its expensive to even try with current technology.

  11. Bruce

    Cohenite posted:

    “So it’s about money, power and egos with a strong splash of ideology.”

    It is really all about POWER, POWER, money, POWER, egos, POWER under a frilly bit of totalitarian, sociopathic ideology and POWER.

    Did I mention POWER? (political, not electrical).

  12. Dr Fred Lenin

    What are the Japanese going to do for coal when the communist fascist gangrene globalists close down all coal mines so their ruinables have no competition and the can rape the treasury and rob the people?

  13. NuThink

    Tel –

    and that warm curl of smoke coming out and wafting into the sky so you knew a family lived there.

    Recall a few years ago a picture of such a country homestead in Tasmania wafting smoke and the proud owner, one Bob Brown, in the foreground. He is definitely not Mr Green.

  14. NuThink

    I am trying to see the carbon pollution belching from the Kobe station, like we were shown in the climate change ads with actors a few years ago. Apparently Greta can see the CO2.

  15. John Constantine

    Deindustrialisation through the carbon scam is the Shoah of the west.

    Windmills and solar panels are the cakes of stone posing as soap the proles are handed to lull them into compliance as they are marched into the ‘showers’.

    Comrades.

  16. Tel

    Recall a few years ago a picture of such a country homestead in Tasmania wafting smoke and the proud owner, one Bob Brown, in the foreground. He is definitely not Mr Green.

    Oh it’s OK when they do it.

    You know how hating Margaret Thatcher is not misogynist? How abusing Candace Owens is not racist? How dumping heavy metal into a river is not pollution if the EPA guys were responsible? How throwing gays of buildings mustn’t be mentioned when it’s that religion we don’t talk about?

    Social construct, buddy!! Rules are for the little people.

  17. nb

    Soon we will be forced to have cars with the equivalent energy storage of a six litre tank of petrol.
    Such are the advances of post modern science, where facts are inconvenient.

  18. Nob

    The greenies are wringing their hands that the Chinese are building hundreds of new coal fired power stations

    If they’re 1) aware of it and 2) admitting it openly, that’s major progress.

    Most greenies will still tell you that China is going green, and they really believe it.

    I guess the BBC decided denial is making them look stupid , even to some of their fans, so it’s time for backflips and forgetting, and then trying to own the issue they previously ignored or denied.

  19. Rob MW

    Commissioned stupidity should be made a criminal offence.

  20. Nob

    Large storms cloud solar and wreck wind power production. A large volcanic eruption can knock out effective sunlight and calm wind power for days and weeks without notice.

    And nobody would notice.
    Despite the fantastical claims, wind and solar’s contribution to the grid would not be missed at current levels.

  21. Dr Fred Lenin

    Nob ,the odinary people wont know about the failures,there will be no electricity to power the radio and tv stations or the printing presses ,the resistance will be printing news sheets like Guttenberg did centuries ago, forward into the past with narxist fascism , led by our beloved leaders for life .

  22. min

    The question that should be asked is if we lower our meagre emissions , 3% of the world’s , how do we protect Australia from the 97%.? Do we have to put a large plastic tent over us? Of course this is absurd but noone has asked Shorten how he tends to deal with other countries emissions. only a handful of undeveloped countries has met emissions target.

  23. Karabar

    The CAGW scam is the most ludicrous fairy story ever told.

  24. Leo G

    With Shorten it becomes immediate and brutal euthanasia, with Morrison it becomes a protracted and lingering malaise!

    Again, blaming the dull-witted Hare and Tortoise when the real culprits are those who stake the race to our finish.

  25. min

    I am still advocating the sacrifice of virgins to appease the climate gods.

  26. Fat Tony

    min
    #3009627, posted on May 10, 2019 at 11:37 pm
    I am still advocating the sacrifice of virgins to appease the climate gods.

    min – send some my way please for sacrificing – I’ve had a bit of a drought lately – had to hand feed the poor thing…..

  27. Chloe

    Global warming evangelists are heading for tricky times as the world awakens to their scam. German politicians are now very divided over carbon tax.
    And zero carbon, not 100% renewables, is the vogue in Europe because they have nuclear for their base load and energy security.
    Whilst some of our idiot politicians still push for 100% renewables which will never happen. Apart from destroying the economy, breaking the national debt and littering the countryside with broken down windmills.
    Australia is headed for a bad place and some hard lessons. Only way to learn for some.

  28. Mark M

    Investment deals emerging from China’s belt and road summit at the end of April showed continued support for controversial coal projects, despite leaders’ green rhetoric:

    Multiple coal deals emerge from China’s ‘green’ investment summit

    https://www.climatechangenews.com/2019/04/29/multiple-coal-deals-emerge-chinas-green-investment-summit/

  29. min

    Fat Tony I thought the Grreens would be falling over themselves to volunteer

  30. min

    Liberals are between a rock and a hard place. as the existential nightmare has frightenred too many people. . Evidence of this is the number of posters in the gardens or on fences of houses in my electorate,. of a certain Green hopeful with $20 million in property and promising death duties. .
    i do my best at local groups by making the point about Geermany spending 500 billion euros in transitioning to renewables to no avail . not only has it not worked but the renewablres ,arenow falling to pieces and the transmission lines also. .
    IMO Shorten sounded desparate on the hustings yesterday. He , Wong and Kenneally hadt o resort to beuing nasty and calling people names . I thought one grew out of that in 5 th grade.

  31. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Known reserves at the door of the power plant is something many countries would pay dearly for . Security is for when things go wrong. We are complacent.

    Now tell us again who won the war against Japan.

    Good on Japan, I say, but Australia, it’s deep and you are standing in it.

  32. jupes

    “I am saying to you very clearly that both in the short term and the long term, the cost of not acting on climate change is far worse than acting on climate change.

    “When you talk about cost, what’s the cost to the environment? Well the cost is in not acting. When you talk about the cost to business, the reality is lots of businesses are so far ahead of government they’re already investing,” he said.

    Asked on the economic cost of having a 45 per cent target for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, Mr Shorten said: “It won’t have a negative effect on economic growth. Most of the mainstream modelling shows that our economy will continue to grow.”

    Mr Shorten rejected the idea that Labor was sending conflicting messages about its position on the Adani coal mine project to different demographics.

    “Our position is very clear. Got to stack up commercially. Got to stack up scientifically. Got to stack up according to the law and we won’t engage in sovereign risk.”

    “I’d say that my view on this mine is going to be based on the best science, whether or not it stacks up, and if it is, if it stacks up and passes all the scientific tests. I won’t engage in sovereign risk. We won’t arbitrarily up-end things,” he said.

    I still cannot get over the fact that Shorten can spruik such utter bullshit and SloMo can’t lay a glove on him.

    Seriously. Words fail.

  33. Rob

    But wait, Labor’s mandated and massive fleet of electric vehicles will need a lot of electricity.
    Where will it come from?
    Another of Labor’s magic puddings.

  34. Nob

    Greens vote doesn’t matter when all the major parties are parroting their message.

    People ought to immediately realise that more electric everything (trains, cars etc) and closing power stations are incompatible aims. It’s as simple as that.

    If they don’t, its because of the incessant propaganda promoting wind and solar by technically illiterate media. It’s as simple as that.

    If political candidates can’t nail this obvious bullshit it’s because they don’t want to. It’s as simple as that.

    Forget every other issue, ask them about energy. Relentlessly.

  35. RobK

    Forget every other issue, ask them about energy. Relentlessly.
    That message will become increasingly plain as time passes, if we proceed on our current trajectory.

  36. Tel

    I still cannot get over the fact that Shorten can spruik such utter bullshit and SloMo can’t lay a glove on him.

    Seriously. Words fail.

    In the scheme of things … you probably should be thankful that Peanut is opening his mouth and ScoMo is keeping his shut. It’s about the most favourable campaign scenario I can imagine.

  37. Chris M

    Australian voters let the scam win.

    Well voters booted out the Gillard Carbon Tax. But we all knew about that tax largely thanks to Tony. Now the media is more wised up and complicit – unless you follow politics in some detail (few people do) how would you know about hidden Turnbull Carbon Tax, German renewables collapse and the like?

    Australian voters are not stupid but at the same time are fed a stream of lies and half truths with some important facts carefully buried. The local media have fairly successfully gotten both major parties on board with the global warming hoax and kept any dissent quiet.

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