The election’s main non-issue gets a mention

Here’s the story: “Refugees” on Nauru everywhere hope for border policy change.

Refugees on Nauru and Manus ­Island have told officials they are hoping a new government will be elected and tough border security policies overhauled, delivering them a pathway to resettle in ­Australia and New Zealand.

The story comes with this: Parent visa ‘could see 200,000 applications’.

More than 200,000 parents of overseas-born Australians may arrive under Labor’s generous temporary visa, putting pressure on future governments to allow them to stay for good, demographer Bob Birrell has warned.

I’ve always thought that entry into Australia should be similar to applying to be a student at a university where you don’t just show up and demand to be admitted.

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23 Responses to The election’s main non-issue gets a mention

  1. Bruce of Newcastle

    There are no refugees on Nauru. All the non-local people there either have rejected settlement in the USA or Cambodia, or have failed security checks by ASIO, or have been found by an exhaustive legal process not to be refugees, thereby having their asylum claims rejected.

    As such they are/were illegal entrants to Australia and can and should be prevented from entering the country.

    The Australian Government, as I recall, has offered all expenses paid return to their home countries.

    We have discharged our national responsibilities with great generosity and owe them nothing more.

  2. Tim Neilson

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3009116, posted on May 10, 2019 at 12:11 pm

    Great summary.

  3. max

    Bruce of Newcastle:
    “The Australian Government, as I recall, has offered all expenses paid return to their home countries.”

    payers are individual who can not refuse — government does not have money — it does have a goons with a gun

  4. Fred

    The reasons why high speed rail will never work in Australia is due to distance and population density.

    Labor’s working hard on the latter.

  5. John Constantine

    Their electoral commission can do a redistribution every time Australia’s population increases past the next hurdle.

    Bigger and faster Australia means rural conservative electorates are wiped out and replaced with new imported electorates.

    A million grannies flown in to Melbourne and Sydney means three or four rural electorates wiped out forever.

  6. Tel

    There’s nothing more permanent than a temporary government program.

  7. Cynic of Ayr

    It’s incredible how much money – hundreds of thousands of dollars – are spent on a few individuals that are not even Australian citizens.
    (There are better word than “incredible”. I just haven’t the space to use them, and my rage only increases.

  8. thefrollickingmole

    So they are holding out for another “gillard” election.

    Labour governing with the greens in the senate and being “forced” to adopt more leftist positions than they took to the election.

  9. ArthurB

    There is an obvious reason why the ABC, the Greens and our fearless journalists have ignored the subject of refugees and asylum seekers (i.e. country shoppers): any discussion of the subject might remind the proles of what happened under Rudd and Gillard, and thus damage Labor’s prospects in the election.

    I don’t have much sympathy for those who are being held on Nauru and elsewhere. If they have been found to be genuine refugees, on Nauru they are safe from being persecuted by the government of the countries that they left, but what they want is the right to reside in Australia.

    I contend that there is also an economic case against taking refugees. Most of them are from third world sh1t holes, and do not possess the skills which are required to make them employable in this country. I would like to know how much the government spends on welfare, housing, programs to teach them English, etc, I believe the figure is substantial. Would the vast sums of money be better spent in ameliorating conditions in refugee camps around the world, rather than on a few lucky country-shoppers?

  10. Behind Enemy Lines

    Tel
    #3009177, posted on May 10, 2019 at 12:50 pm

    There’s nothing more permanent than a temporary government program.

    Indeed.

    So that ‘exaggerated’ estimate of 200,000 unemployable superannuants (who’ll be duchessed straight onto the electoral and welfare rolls) is probably out by a factor of ten, over time. And why wouldn’t you bring your folks out here, knowing that someone else will end up paying for the bulk of their accommodation, health and everyday living expenses?

    The Great Replacement continues apace.

  11. Dr Faustus

    More than 200,000 parents of overseas-born Australians may arrive under Labor’s generous temporary visa, putting pressure on future governments to allow them to stay for good, demographer Bob Birrell has warned.

    Take that as an intended outcome.

    Labors Fairer Long Stay Parent Visa policy provides that visa holders can apply for unlimited visa renewals from within Australia.

    Only a Shorten Labor Government will deliver a fair go for Australia’s proud migrant and multicultural communities with our fairer Long Stay Parent visa.

    Very fair.

  12. Ceres

    This is the big one that really gets to me. Admitting hundreds of thousands of ELDERLY parent non citizens who have never paid a cent in tax. A pittance of $2500 each to come here, who will end up staying forever. Imagine the bleeding hearts if you try to deport them as their ‘communities’ get into action to say how heartless this is to OLD vulnerable people. Aussie old people won’t matter.
    Do they have to have health checks to ensure they’re not all needing bypass surgery on arrival, do they have t have compulsory private health insurance or it is going to be all, on the Aussie taxpayer? Meanwhile taxpayers who are now pensioners who funded our hospitals won’t get a look in, as they suffer or die whilst on the waiting list.
    This is so shameful I can scarcely believe Labor would do this. No details no nothing so have to expect the worst. Give it all away to elderly imports who will drain the lot, but they will vote Labor!

  13. iain russell

    BoN has it. Despite the awfulness of Trump’s USA, where the bustard has authorised the KKK to tool up and patrol the streets, massacring PoCs, LGBTIXYZS and Latinos on sight, gazillions of Latinos cross the Rio every day. But our precious petals on Nauru won’t go there. Centrelink, Centrelink! The people united shall never be defeated! Centrelink!

  14. Dr Fred Lenin

    I have rcently noticed increasing numbers of frail very old Chinese looking people in the Collingwood and Fitzroy <area in Melbourne , they seem to be concentrated in the ministry high rises in Fitzroy. I travel on the tram through there on my way from Bundoora where I live . Its nothing to have six or eight on the tram to and from Collingwood shops and the high rises . St vincents hospital must be getting a lot as they are close to the hospital ,this has only started in the las t few years ,God knows how many there are if I see so many in the short time Im in that area ,being aged they will naturally need medical help ,a taxpayers expense I suppose ,another clever idea of the UNiparty who havent got a bloody clue about money or real life .

  15. Old Lefty

    Shades of Brecht on the East German Communist Party: they didn’t like the people they had, so they elected a new one.

  16. Behind Enemy Lines

    Dr Fred Lenin
    #3009279, posted on May 10, 2019 at 3:47 pm
    I have recently noticed increasing numbers of frail very old Chinese looking people in the Collingwood and Fitzroy area in Melbourne, they seem to be concentrated in the ministry high rises in Fitzroy . . . God knows how many there are if I see so many in the short time I’m in that area, being aged they will naturally need medical help, at taxpayers expense I suppose. . . .

    It’s not Fred’s imagination. Sydney and Melbourne are already heaving with ancient, frail Chinese peasants.

    Old Lefty
    #3009284, posted on May 10, 2019 at 3:55 pm
    Shades of Brecht on the East German Communist Party: they didn’t like the people they had, so they elected a new one.

    This is precisely what’s going on. Whoever named it The Great Replacement was on the money. . .

    Ceres
    #3009242, posted on May 10, 2019 at 2:38 pm
    This is the big one that really gets to me. Admitting hundreds of thousands of ELDERLY parent non citizens who have never paid a cent in tax. A pittance of $2500 each to come here, who will end up staying forever. . . . Meanwhile taxpayers who are now pensioners who funded our hospitals won’t get a look in, as they suffer or die whilst on the waiting list. This is so shameful I can scarcely believe Labor would do this. . . . Give it all away to elderly imports who will drain the lot, but they will vote Labor!

    . . . and this is how The Great Replacement is getting pulled off. Screw the voters who typically oppose the left, by buying in a new set of lefty permavoters from overseas.

    South Africa, here we come.

  17. Squirrel

    “Only a Shorten Labor Government will deliver a fair go for Australia’s proud migrant and multicultural communities with our fairer Long Stay Parent visa.”

    This from a party which is also banging on (in a much louder voice than it has used to announce this policy) about a fair go for younger Australians – the hypocrisy is beyond belief. The reasons for the best and brightest of younger Australians to bail out of this place just keep mounting.

    As to the refugees (or whatever they actually are), the call from a PM Shorten to “barking mad” President Trump, asking the US to take more of our unwanted, would be quite something.

  18. Fisky

    It is absolutely incredible that other above-the-line posters have nothing to say about this, most consequential and far-reaching policy in the election. I really don’t understand these people. They want “small government” but they also want a massive quantitative peopling program that crushloads our social infrastructure.

    Whatever happens, this is the end for the libertarian movement. There is nothing left for these people to say.

  19. Fisky

    I contend that there is also an economic case against taking refugees. Most of them are from third world sh1t holes, and do not possess the skills which are required to make them employable in this country.

    This is entirely correct. I have now reached the conclusion that, if we want to preserve small government policies, we must simply contain and isolate the libertarian movement with their open borders position. Can’t do it!

  20. Fisky

    Very strange that no open borders believers have responded to this post. What is going on??

  21. What on earth is “social infrastructure” you communist lunatic?

    No one here supports the ALP’s stupid policies.

    Stop aping Trump. You’re too low energy.

  22. Fisky

    Sadly, most libertarians seem to love the idea of public schools and hospitals being crush-loaded with pensioners from China and India. It’s yet another strange exemption from their “small government” principles.

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