Open Forum: May 11, 2019

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  1. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It’s either an onion style article or further evidence of mass cretinism
    Scientists beg for solar system laws to protect planets from space mining
    Experts want more than 85% of the solar system to be marked as off-limits for those looking to cash in on the galactic gold rush.

    They believe this is necessary to ensure humanity doesn’t cause its own self-destruction by using up vital resources.

    Martin Elvis, a senior astrophysicist at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in Massachusetts, United States, said mankind may have “nowhere left to go” if companies mine everything they can in space.

  2. thefrollickingmole

    mh
    #3011187, posted on May 13, 2019 at 9:19 am
    Yikes!

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/elsa-patton-real-housewives-of-miami-dead

    Lat time I saw a visage like that it had Max Von Sydow chucking holy water at it shouting “The power of Christ compels you”…

  3. notafan

    Not a policy I endorse but speaking of experience with some people their grandparent prefers the cheap slave labour in India and China than coming here and relying on kids to do it for them.

    They will, as Robber Baron said. to and fro for the free medical stuff, and don’t worry if they don’t have a medicare card a family member and a compliant foreign doctor will smooth out that inconvenience.

    Remember this a response by the Shorten Crew to demands from the Chinese and indian expat communities.

    They know what a bonanza it will be.

  4. thefrollickingmole

    The neo-Maltiusans are at it again.
    “Only 400+years before we are all DOOOOMMMMED!!!”

    If we mine the solar system nearly every boogeyman thrown up by the enviroloons collapses into a pile of crap.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/may/12/protect-solar-system-space-mining-gold-rush-say-scientists
    Great swathes of the solar system should be preserved as official “space wilderness” to protect planets, moons and other heavenly bodies from rampant mining and other forms of industrial exploitation, scientists say.

    The proposal calls for more than 85% of the solar system to be placed off-limits to human development, leaving little more than an eighth for space firms to mine for precious metals, minerals and other valuable materials.

    While the limit would protect pristine worlds from the worst excesses of human activity, its primary goal is to ensure that humanity avoids a catastrophic future in which all of the resources within its reach are permanently used up.

    “If we don’t think about this now, we will go ahead as we always have, and in a few hundred years we will face an extreme crisis, much worse than we have on Earth now,” said Martin Elvis, a senior astrophysicist at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in Cambridge, Massachusetts. “Once you’ve exploited the solar system, there’s nowhere left to go.”

    Fledgling space mining companies have set their sights on trillions of pounds worth of iron and precious metals locked up in asteroids, along with valuable minerals and trillions of tonnes of water on the moon. In Britain, the Asteroid Mining Corporation hopes to send a satellite into orbit in the coming years to prospect for nearby asteroids.

    Precious metals such as platinum and gold could be ferried back to Earth, but much of the mined material would be used in space to build habitats on the moon and make rocket fuel. The European Space Agency has plans for a moon village that foresees buildings and equipment installed on the lunar surface. Meanwhile water ice, such as that beneath the lunar poles, can be split into hydrogen and oxygen and used to make fuel for probes that launch from space instead of Earth.

    Working with Tony Milligan, a philosopher at King’s College London, Elvis analysed how soon humans might use up the solar system’s most accessible resources should space mining take off. They found that an annual growth rate of 3.5% would use up an eighth of the solar system’s realistic resources in 400 years. At that point, humanity would have only 60 years to apply the brakes and avoid exhausting the supply completely.

    Because humans might struggle to mine the sun, or extract useful materials from Jupiter, a gas giant with more mass than the rest of the solar system’s planets combined, the researchers see asteroids, the moon, Mars and other rocky planets as the most realistic targets for space miners. Elvis points out that one eighth of the iron in the asteroid belt is more than a million times greater that the estimated iron ore reserves on Earth, which may suffice for centuries.

  5. thefrollickingmole

    Snap Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

  6. Mother Lode

    The journo the said, and I’m paraphrasing here, that the rule of thumb has always been that pollies’ families were off limits.

    Unless, she said, the pollies bring the families into it themselves. Then they’re fair game.

    The ABC must be pretty worried that the Libs might win – they are already preparing the excuses for Tits’ losing and how he betrayed the robot progressive base.

    They must read the Cat and have seen Monty gloating about imminent victory for the forces of…of…for…well whatever the opposite of Abbott and Trump is.

  7. DrBeauGan

    The neo-Maltiusans are at it again.
    “Only 400+years before we are all DOOOOMMMMED!!!”

    If we mine the solar system nearly every boogeyman thrown up by the enviroloons collapses into a pile of crap.

    These guys are religious zealots and hate the idea of us getting away from them and the socialist worker’s paradise.

  8. RobK

    “Only 400+years before we are all DOOOOMMMMED!!!”
    It’s ok; on our current trajectory, catastrophic anthropogenic neurosis will limit most future developments. Those resources will have little value.

  9. Notafan:

    They will, as Robber Baron said. to and fro for the free medical stuff, and don’t worry if they don’t have a medicare card a family member and a compliant foreign doctor will smooth out that inconvenience.

    There are some fairly nasty problems awaiting the people who try to pull this scam.
    Working at the major hospital in Saudi Arabia, they had to stop pre admission stuff for locals. It turned out the person who was going for, say, an operation wouldn’t come in for pre op bloods – they were too busy – so the most useless member of the family was sent in that closely matched the patient. However, things would occasionally go wrong and a blood transfusion was required.
    Ooops.
    Scratch one Princess.

  10. Doc BeauGan:

    These guys are religious zealots and hate the idea of us getting away from them and the socialist worker’s paradise.

    I made the point that those who rule over us would, if a mob of aliens were to arrive tomorrow and offer to sell us space ships with the ability to get to Alpha Centauri within 1 month, refuse to let us have them.
    It’s the same reason they want one world government – so there is nowhere to go to escape their unquenchable thirst for control.

  11. Done Deal

    He didn’t speak to the media, he asked the Leader of the Opposition if his party’s policies would support him while Tits was wandering through and touting for votes.

    More than anything else it shows how shit scared Dumb-Heads’ minders are of him getting asked something he hasn’t been prepped for.
    Like when he stares off into space for a while and comes up with something like….umm it takes about 8 minutes to re-charge an EV.
    The mind boggles how he will go at the dispatch box for questions without notice. I see echoes of Rudd being given temporary charge pending Gillard’s ascension to throne. He should be very wary of smirking Plebber’s & steel eye “2 Wrongs don’t make a heteronormative couple”. The first chance either of them gets a chance, he’ll be gone. Plebbers will have the SJW woke crowd, 2 Wrongs will have the rainbows & the soon to be greatly inflated WeChat cohort. All bonehead will have is a rapidly dwindling union movement to back him up. My monies on 2 Wrongs

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