Open Forum: May 11, 2019

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  1. pete m

    KD, do you think your friend sold you a dummy story knowing you’d buy her kid a big present to impress the ladies?

    I think you got played, but got to enjoy some looks anyway.

    Be careful of mums, they make trump 5d look amateur.

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    Intermittent Fasting is successful for weight loss

    Or you can just move to a socialist country.

    Cuba launches widespread rationing in face of crisis (11 May)

    HAVANA (AP) — The Cuban government announced Friday that it is launching widespread rationing of chicken, eggs, rice, beans, soap and other basic products in the face of a grave economic crisis.

    Commerce Minister Betsy Díaz Velázquez told the state-run Cuban News Agency that various forms of rationing would be employed in order to deal with shortages of staple foods. She blamed the hardening of the U.S. trade embargo by the Trump administration. Economists give equal or greater blame to a plunge in aid from Venezuela, where the collapse of the state-run oil company has led to a nearly two-thirds cut in shipments of subsidized fuel that Cuba used for power and to earn hard currency on the open market.

    Amazing how this always seems to happen.

  3. calli

    The Ronald Sullivan sacking reminded me of this case.

    Incredibly unpopular, and a dangerous representation.

    How low have the best and brightest in the US fallen. So much for liberty.

  4. Tom

    Hahaha. Well played, Boambee John.

  5. bespoke

    Forcing lawyers to only represent people they think are innocent will set it back a thousand years.

  6. You really shouldn’t come here defending such abominable crimes, Spud.

    Show me where I have defended child rape.
    Must be Catallaxy – verballing central…

  7. Leigh Lowe

    Spud, for the sake of what remains of your mental health, give it up.
    Banging on about some imaginary minor slight by Government from 50 years ago is clearly causing you to lose your remaining marbles.
    I mean, I had legitimate tax deductions disallowed by the ATO back in the 1980’s but you don’t hear me going on and on about it.
    It’s no biggy.
    Move on.

  8. woolfe

    Anyway to cheer you all up, Day 6 of the Ramadan Bombathon, 35 attacks, 169 killed!

  9. calli

    Yes, pete m. Mum had a full house. And the history so lightly touched upon made my radar power up. A “thing” a few years ago? Hmmmmm…

    I tried to compensate him with visions of the lovely Christina. Because that was all he was going to get.

    🤣

  10. Boambee John

    Oops, Italics fail!

  11. bespoke

    All this over shoes, sad.

  12. I mean, I had legitimate tax deductions disallowed by the ATO back in the 1980’s but you don’t hear me going on and on about it.

    Poor lamb.
    Ever discussed the issue with the parents of a dead Nasho?
    I have a section mate dying of Multiple Myeloma as a consequence of agent orange exposure.
    Care to chat with him?
    We lost a child in 1982 as a result of a congenital deformity, most likely agent orange caused.
    The Coalition has never faced up to the consequences of their policy, but as long as I’m alive, I’ll hold them to account.
    Remember the dead – but fight like hell for the living….

  13. John Constantine

    Once Australia goes cashless, payment through mobile phone app only, then rationing for the proles own good will be irresistible to Tyrannical totalitarianism.

    No maccas this week until your internet of things linked fridge reports you have eaten last week’s kale.

    As shorten says, fat people are to blame for not rationing themselves.

    Obviously the State must do the rationing for you.

    Comrades.

  14. Bruce of Newcastle

    Speaking of morning birds and weight gain, here’s a pic of my obese peewee from just now. He hates the camera so had to hide it behind my back then sneak a quick photo.

    Being tubby doesn’t seem to slow him down. At least one of his kids were eaten by a crow this season, so I don’t think peewees have much of an issue with diseases of middle age.

  15. Notafan

    People born after a war are not responsible for the actions of those in power at the time of that war.

    Labor introduced conscription for overseas duty in world war two, they set the precedent.

    You have excuses for your irrational nonsense, not reasons.

    My greatest sympathy is with the people of Vietnam who did not want to live, and die under the yoke of communism, especially the 200,000 plus that died trying to flee after they were abandoned by the world.

    It was a righteous cause.

    Please go away.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    When the argument unravels, out come the concocted anecdotes.
    It is the standard Spud-peeler M.O.

  17. John Constantine

    Their shorten promises all the funding it takes to censor the media and internet.

    Only helpful things to be broadcast to the proles under their shortreich.

    Given the choice between. Truthful and Helpful, the Cheerful Squalor of socialism has the paramilitary Death squads, the informers and the military style assault weapons to enforce compliance with Helpful.

    The science is settled, Comrades.

  18. Labor introduced conscription for overseas duty in world war two, they set the precedent.

    So there’s an equivalence between existential threat from Imperial Japan and a Communist insurgency in Vietnam which was never a threat to mainland Oz.
    You jest…

  19. Shy Ted

    Is ScoMo really spending $75m on interview training that will get 4,000 wymmyns into work? $18,000 per wymmin? Something wrong with the old casting couch approach to interviewing?

  20. John Constantine

    Once shorten wins and loots the funding for his Stasi vengeance department of media and internet censorship, how long do we think it will take the trolls to self-righteously trot in and file as informers on the Cat?.

    Constantine has always loved shorten, with all his heart.

    Comrades.

  21. bespoke

    Good one calli and this.

  22. duncanm

    NEWS: Labor will ban all Supertrawlers from Australia’s small pelagic fishery. Following new report showing the current Supertrawler ‘sham ban’ only stops 6 of the world’s 70+ supertrawlers from Australian waters. Supertrawlers and overseas fleets would be bad for marine life, bad for local fishing communities and bad for recreational fishers.

    that would be the local fishing communities who no longer exist due to the fishing ground exclusions and buyouts of the 90’s and 00’s ?

  23. Farmer Gez

    Labor bans Supertrawlers.
    Ha ha ha.
    When the Chinese send in the navy to enforce their right to fish?
    What then Billy boy?

  24. min

    How about getting sacked if you married as a bad government regulation, which it was for teachers back in my early days. Even worse if you left the marriage because of violence and wanted to support yourself and child, as happened to a friend , had to wait 7 years for a divorce and prove she had not committed adultery.
    Of course , same rules did not apply to men teachers.
    Another whinge about poor treatment back in the bad old days , women got paid a third less for the same job.

  25. egg_

    Happy Mother’s Day, Numbnutz, the biggest mother on the site.

  26. DrBeauGan

    I’ve not had much of an opinion of Harvard after they sacked their CEO for suggesting that on average, men and women might have different tastes and interests.

  27. Old School Conservative

    There’s a reason why Intermittent Fasting is successful for weight loss if practised between 7pm and midday.

    Hope you are right calli – I just started this week.
    Pushing the “break fast” boundary out further when I can.

  28. duncanm

    numbers is no good with numbers, he’d rather defer to authority.

    Each house may have a 7kW (30A) fused circuit on their stove.. but they don’t all turn on every element (oven + 4 rings) for 12 hours straight.

    Its called averaging.

    If the average household power budget is something like 20kWh/day, you’re talking about increasing that by 500% for a nominal 100kWh car charge/day.

    Let’s take the ‘one charge every three days’ at face value – you’re still talking a 150% increase.

  29. Old School Conservative

    Thanks Tom.
    A very good set of ‘toons indeed. Woke some of my household up despite suppressing the laughter.

  30. areff

    BoN: Those peewees are quite likely the most stupid birds in all of nature. The males attack their reflections in my windows for hours on end, and trying to get one out of the house is especially difficult when its significant other wonders what’s keeping Birdbrain Bert and comes inside as well.

    Meanwhile the cat is leaping from table to bookcase to chair and running up the curtains.

    So stupid it’s a wonder they weren’t tapped for Liberal preselection.

  31. Farmer Gez

    Check out Laura Jayes on Sky sitting on chairs with the lads.
    Looks like a Preppie visiting high school.
    A reflection of her political gravitas.

  32. calli

    It works, OSC. Calorie deficit added to a good 7-8 hours’ sleep which controls hormones.

    Mitch M. would know the technical reasons why.

  33. Geriatric Mayfly

    Used to be so common, if you couldn’t catch anything else you were a bit of duffer. Fillets of the humble flathead commanding $60 kg last week in the supermarket. Almost elevated to crayfish status.

  34. Overburdend

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/10/second-weightlifting-association-rejects-transgender-claims/

    Ha

    Being an old world thinker, I would usually say that a bloke that identifies as transgender but keeps his tackle (which almost 100% of them do) and prefers women to men because he is a lesbian is in reality a messed up heterosexual bloke.

    I am grateful that this has been clarified.

  35. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My greatest sympathy is with the people of Vietnam who did not want to live, and die under the yoke of communism, especially the 200,000 plus that died trying to flee after they were abandoned by the world

    Or the 160,000 or so who died from starvation or disease in the “re – education” camps.

  36. Zyconoclast

    Happy Mother’s Day, to the mother Cats

  37. Johno

    Sniffy, another day, another but-kicking. Honest question. Have you ever won an argument?

    So low energy.

  38. Boambee John

    So there’s an equivalence between existential threat from Imperial Japan and a Communist insurgency in Vietnam which was never a threat to mainland Oz.
    You jest…

    By the time Labor introduced conscription for overseas service, the Japanese were retreating. One of the reasons given in the OH was to appease the US, which was using conscripts. MacA leant on Curtin.

  39. calli

    Not going to kick the WAP landmine.

    Pity. It’s almost June.

  40. Johno

    MH, sniffy was 23 when he went to that place. He was deferred 4 times, and then they found out he did not have spurs on his heels. Bad sniffy, bad boy. Fetch.

  41. Nick

    KD’s tales reminds me of the great Les Norton. They are currently filming around Bondi.

    Set in 1985, the series will follow the exploits of Les Norton, a country bloke from outback Queensland. On the run from a troubled past, he blows into Sydney where he lands a job as a bouncer at a notorious illegal casino in Kings Cross. A classic fish out of water who’s desperate to get home, he soon finds himself seduced by the city’s illicit charms and dragged into a web of underground criminality.

    Sounds good. Then we have this:

    Head of Content at Screen Australia, Sally Caplan said: “Les Norton is an affable character that has proven popular with audiences in the best-selling book series. What excites me about this TV adaptation is that the creative team have included a slew of new female roles to go head on with the male characters established in the books.”

    No, just no.

  42. mh

    We lost a child in 1982 as a result of a congenital deformity, most likely agent orange

    Hey Bob, you didn’t have to go to ‘Nam. But your Dad wanted you over there.

  43. egg_

    Their shorten promises all the funding it takes to censor the media and internet.

    Oh noes!
    Not the handbag-hit-squad’s plain packaging/alcopops Stasi again?

  44. woolfe

    Looking at AEMO South Venezuela currently has the most expensive electrickery in the nation, with Wind and other supplying 6% of demand

  45. stackja

    If Vietnam fell quickly followed by Thailand and Malaya? Then Indonesia? Reminds of 1941-1942. Would USA have bothered about Australia? Only Pearl Harbor attack likely saved Australia.

  46. mh

    23? Bob needs to own his decisions in life.

    Time to grow up, Bob. It’s never too late.

  47. John64

    Peanuthead on Insiders for those either with a strong stomach or a wish to destroy the television.

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hey Bob, you didn’t have to go to ‘Nam. But your Dad wanted you over there.

    Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal alternative to being conscripted, which he chose not to exercise.

  49. DrBeauGan

    Numbers is not entirely useless. He serves as a horrible example of how an obsession can ruin a life.

  50. egg_

    Numbers enjoys pitching a tent with other blokes and driving MX5s.

  51. mh

    Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal alternative to being conscripted, which he chose not to exercise.

    That’s what Bob has to come to terms with. But he hasn’t done that in the last 50 years, so don’t hold your breath.

  52. feelthebern

    When it comes to foreign policy, everything that Tulsi Gabbard said in her interview with Glenn Greenwald, I agree with.

  53. feelthebern

    Tulsi Gabbard is the first presidential candidate ever to call the House of Saud an evil group.
    Bernie Sanders even used weasel words to not address questions.

  54. Empire 5:5

    Muh ‘nam, muh carbin.

  55. Peter Castieau

    Despite Ol Leathery’s soft interview with BS and his totally disingenuous and blatant untruthful answers are the reason why I think Labor will lose the election.

  56. John64

    Bull Shitten tells Ol’ Leathery that Labor’s policies will achieve the “magic trifecta” of economic reform.

    Magic puddings will produce magic trifecta I guess.

  57. Overburdened

    Moderated for suggesting something.

    Crazy.

  58. Farmer Gez

    Agent Orange is 2,4T and 2,4D mixed.
    Lots of farmers worldwide used the same brew for 40 years and 2,4 D is still used.
    Considering that Deildrin DDT was used to fumigate camps and dusted all over soldiers, which chemical would you blame? My vet uncle said you had to tap the DDT dust out of your pannikan to drink.
    I’d put my money on DDT.

  59. Tel

    Tulsi Gabbard is the first presidential candidate ever to call the House of Saud an evil group.
    Bernie Sanders even used weasel words to not address questions.

    She’s the only Dem candidate who I would actually like to see beating Trump. The only genuine anti-war Dem candidate and although her economics are not brilliant, at least pulling back from foreign intervention would save a lot of government spending and that would help a lot even if she had no other ideas.

    Sadly the most likely Dem candidate is Bernie Sanders, who has the worst policies. Although, he’s also a massive hypocrite therefore his policies might change at some random future date.

  60. Overburdened

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/brian-taylor-stands-his-ground-over-orazio-fantasia-debate/news-story/4dd1d39cf0b9a8cf04e687cd0eb403d8

    Let’s try a different angle.

    Brian Taylor will be shamed out of commentating by the righteous ones, many of whom wouldn’t watch the footy.

  61. Stimpson J. Cat

    Wishing a Happy Mother’s Day to all of the noble and inspiring visions of grace and beauty we know as the human Mother.
    Enjoy your day, Women.
    You have earned it.
    😁

  62. feelthebern

    Tulsi Gabbard would not get through the DNC process.
    Just like the GOP, the DNC is beholden to the deep state.
    That’s why Trump is hated.
    He is GOP in name only.

  63. Tel

    Agent Orange is 2,4T and 2,4D mixed.
    Lots of farmers worldwide used the same brew for 40 years and 2,4 D is still used.

    Gez … read the history of Agent Orange … the specified formula was legit two-part mix as you point out (although the proposed purpose of destroying enemy crops to create starvation was questionable) but the product as delivered had been contaminated with dioxin and the level of contamination was inconsistent between batches. That is to say, they did not deliver what was specified and the US Army never bothered checking it properly. It was either a massive screw-up or outright sabotage.

    One of the many times when the Americans shot their own feet instead of getting on and winning.

    Remember that the whole training, supply and building of the early Viet Cong forces was done by the Americans (see OSS Deer Team, 1945) in the first place. If you want to know the next bunch of bad guys we will be fighting, you only need to look at who we are funding today.

  64. John64

    The Couch Collective has a bit of a chortle about the PM getting egged.

    “A waste of a good egg” opines Annabelle Crabs.

  65. Tel

    Tulsi Gabbard would not get through the DNC process.
    Just like the GOP, the DNC is beholden to the deep state.

    Of course, she has no chance.

    Trump got accelerated through the GOP primaries by the pro-Democrat media who thought it would be amusing to elevate a joke candidate that they stupidly thought would be easily beaten by Hillary. They will be a lot more careful making sure Tulsi Gabbard is kept down. However, if libertarian groups and other people on the internet got the buzz around it might at least rattle the Deep State cage a little.

    Trump talked a good talk with his campaign saying he would bring the troops home. Hasn’t happened so he is potentially weak on that side.

  66. Empire 5:5

    Gabbard is a commie stooge. Bernie 2.0. She advocates free stuff for all and is 2A hostile. Behind the pacifist rhetoric lies a sociopathic tyrant.

    The Greenwald interview is a joke. He frames questions favourably for her and asserts fake news policy positions to Trump.

  67. Spider

    Everyone furiously agreeing with everyone else on Insiders. They don’t even try to hide it now.

    Reminded me of the Looney Tunes Goofy Gophers

    After you. No after you

  68. bespoke

    I would like to no what Gabbard’s opinion on the UN and foreign aid before thinking she is ant war.

  69. Leigh Lowe

    I’d put my money on DDT.

    DDT?
    Draft Dodging Trump?

  70. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    That’s what Bob has to come to terms with. But he hasn’t done that in the last 50 years, so don’t hold your breath.

    It must be quite confronting for him to be reading what’s been published based on research done with access to the North Vietnamese records, and discovering he fell hook, line and sinker for North Vietnamese propaganda.

  71. Johno

    This whole Agent Orange debate mystifies me. When the RC finished it basically said they couldn’t find any connection between it and ongoing health problems with the majority of vets.
    They did, however mention that Delta Coy 5RAR were the unit most likely to be affected. Now I am not sure whether this was the first tour or the second. However I served 2nd tour and there doesn’t seem to be an abnormal amount of cancer deaths among my mob.
    Agent orange is just another “poor fella me” cry for attention. Try again sniffy.

  72. Ellie

    Watching Insiders. They are making fun of egging.
    Areff, can you please write a piece advocating egging the ABC. No need to have it vetted. Just do it!

  73. Farmer Gez

    Tel

    I’ve read about the poor temperature control in batching and the subsequent high dioxin levels.
    Exposure is the key to chemical poisoning.
    How much toxin was free as a contaminant once it was absorbed by the plants? I would think that the locals were more at risk from persistent dioxins in the soil or from the breakdown of plant material releasing the unmetabalised compound.
    DDT is persistent and was used in camp compounds.

  74. feelthebern

    Can the ABC please publish a list of who it’s acceptable to egg & who it isn’t?
    Example, is egging a priest ok but is it not ok to egg a mullah?
    Is it ok to egg Alan Jones, but is it not ok to egg Annabel Crab (however you spell her name)?

  75. feelthebern

    I wonder how the 15% limit on interest bill that AOC introduced to the House will impact Afterpay’s US expansion plans?
    There are legislated limits in Australia on the rate of interest private individuals can charge each other.
    For obvious reasons, the borrowers rarely enforce those laws.
    There are no legislated limits in Australia on the rate of interest a company can charge an individual.
    Why is one rule for corporates, one rule for the punters so hard baked into Australia?

  76. John64

    Krazy Bob Katter of Kennedy, who at 74 is already exhibiting signs of senility and incipient dementia, reckons he’s got another 3 Federal elections in him after this one. LOL

  77. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    But he hasn’t done that in the last 50 years, so don’t hold your breath.

    I’m cutting him some slack. Watched the History Channel show last night about the aftermath in the early days and also later years of the American withdrawal (surrender). There was not much strategic and tactical glory in that war. It ruined millions of lives and Bob’s obsession is just residual damage. Collateral, I think they used to term it. He won’t stop going on about it here; endlessly telling us about it is his own sort of PTS relief. Better men on both sides, as shown in that program, have moved on and learned to cope and forgive and forget. Seek help, Bob.

  78. feelthebern

    numbers would benefit from a weekend with Tony Robbins.

  79. feelthebern

    Why is one rule for corporates, one rule for the punters so hard baked into Australia?

    Maybe IT is right & corporations must be destroyed.

  80. feelthebern

    Stimpy, you are a terrible person.
    PS, keep it up.

  81. Leigh Lowe

    The true story of the Great 2016 Election Robbery here contains this pearl …

    The biggest voter suppression mechanism in American politics is Hillary Clinton’s personality.

  82. C.L.

    Happy Mother’s Day to Mumallaxians and also to elite Grandmallaxians, anyway.

  83. Krazy Bob Katter of Kennedy, who at 74 is already exhibiting signs of senility and incipient dementia, reckons he’s got another 3 Federal elections in him after this one. LOL

    He may turn out to be the Strom Thurmond of Australian Federal politics.

  84. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3010380, posted on May 12, 2019 at 10:09 am

    numbers would benefit from a weekend with Tony Robbins.

    That scream you heard was Tony Robbins inserting a number 8 knitting needle in his ear.

  85. C.L.

    Katter has been drawing a parliamentary salary since – wait for it – 1974.
    He is the greatest grifter in Australian political history – and that’s saying something.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    Maybe IT is right & corporations must be destroyed.

    No problem.
    As long as we start with the Broadcasting Corporation.

  87. Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal alternative to being conscripted, which he chose not to exercise.

    If you really believe that, you should be able to tell me, with perfect precision, which horse is going to win the SABOIS Fillies & Mares Maiden Plate at Gawler at 1:05pm.

    Go!

  88. Nick

    Can the ABC please publish a list of who it’s acceptable to egg & who it isn’t?
    Example, is egging a priest ok but is it not ok to egg a mullah?
    Is it ok to egg Alan Jones, but is it not ok to egg Annabel Crab (however you spell her name)?

    Bingo

  89. Leo G

    “A waste of a good egg” opines Annabelle Crabs.

    Goods eggs are rare in ABC ranks.

  90. C.L.

    Bring this on and run a book!

    Federal crossbencher Bob Katter has challenged Clive Palmer to a race up the stairs of Parliament after the billionaire suggested the veteran MP was too old to serve his electorate.

    Mr Katter, 73, has held the north Queensland seat of Kennedy since 1993 and holds it by a safe margin of 11 per cent.

    But in a tweet on Saturday, Mr Palmer, 65, said Mr Katter should close the door on politics ahead of the federal election.

    “Bob’s done his best, but it’s time for him to go and enjoy his retirement,” the tweet said.

    A promotional video for Mr Palmer’s United Australia Party (UAP) also targeted Mr Katter’s age and said it was time for change in the electorate.

    In the clip, UAP’s Kennedy candidate Sue Bertuch said: “[Bob Katter] will be 76 by the end of term — it’s time to put Australia first”.

    Mr Katter laughed off the suggestion.

    “I challenge Mr Palmer to a race up the parliamentary stairs, but I have to warn him that I take the stairs two at a time,” Mr Katter said.

    Katter would burn Clive, I think we know that.

  91. Agent Orange is 2,4T and 2,4D mixed.
    Lots of farmers worldwide used the same brew for 40 years and 2,4 D is still used.

    Slight typo there.
    245T and 24D

    Yeah, 24D is a corker, & if it wasn’t so murderous on cotton it’d be used far more widely. I loved the stuff, knocks down a million times better than Roundup (one whiff of 24D, carried on the midday heat haze, will kill cotton kilometres away)
    245T is a real stinker. I could barely stand to be near the stuff.
    Used them both aplenty, & have sprayed thousands of acres with the mixture. Easy to see why the Army used it on greenery, it works a treat.

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  93. “I challenge Mr Palmer to a race up the parliamentary stairs, but I have to warn him that I take the stairs two at a time,” Mr Katter said.

    Lol.
    I’ve a feeling Mr. Palmer may respond in many ways, including spluttering, switch & baiting, etc.
    None of Mr. Palmer’s responses will actually involve accepting Mr. Katter’s challenge.

  94. Nick

    The SMH are possessed by Abbott. Three articles today.
    What a pity few of its readers and journos actually can vote in that electorate.

  95. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If you really believe that, you should be able to tell me, with perfect precision, which horse is going to win the SABOIS Fillies & Mares Maiden Plate at Gawler at 1:05pm.

    Go!

    It was an option exercised by ten thousand or so prospective conscripts, so all the horse racing bullsyte can’t alter that.

  96. Mark A

    calli
    #3010313, posted on May 12, 2019 at 8:46 am

    It works, OSC. Calorie deficit added to a good 7-8 hours’ sleep which controls hormones.

    That explains it then, why I don’t put on weight despite eating heartily, fatty foods an all + drinks.
    One meal a day at about 1 or 2 PM. My wife is forever on a diet, there isn’t one she haven’t tried yet.
    (she is in good shape I’m happy to say whether due to diet or she just fools herself? )

  97. Bill Thompson

    Bill Shorten at Fed Square yesterday – he reminds me of Bill Clinton!

    https://youtu.be/9RDoPXrlOt0

  98. C.L.

    There’s a word for this: spying. And the thing is, it’s state-financed spying.

    The ABC has repeatedly tried to contact Mr Abbott for comment about the contest in Warringah, but received no response.

    But in a secret recording obtained by the ABC, Mr Abbott told local constituents at a campaign event the campaign was starting to feel “all pretty personal”.

    “I’ve been in Parliament for a long time … I’ve got a pretty thick skin and nine times out of 10 it’s all like water off a duck’s back,” he said.

    “If this coalition for grassroots groups succeeds, then great — you’ve won,” he said.

    “And if they don’t, well I will keep on doing the best I can for the people of Warringah.”

    Tony Abbott says Warringah campaign ‘pretty personal’ in secret recording.

  99. Stimpson J. Cat

    That explains it then, why I don’t put on weight despite eating heartily, fatty foods an all + drinks.
    One meal a day at about 1 or 2 PM.

    I don’t understand why people dislike being fat and obese.
    I mean OK, I find it disgusting and disrespectful because I am a paranoid paragon of physical health, but in ancient times it was a sign of wealth.
    Just think of yourselves as very wealthy,
    my League of Fatties.
    😁

  100. Tel

    None of Mr. Palmer’s responses will actually involve accepting Mr. Katter’s challenge.

    I’d have said, “Sir, I accept your challenge and I have to warn you that I take the elevator!”

  101. C.L.

    The ABC is using taxpayers’ money and/or resources to illegally wiretap Tony Abbot.

  102. johanna

    Great piece of running in the background listening here.

    It’s Victor Davis Hanson, distinguished military and ancient history scholar, talking about his book Why Trump Won the White House.

    You might think that you are across this already, but Victor has some very new and interesting insights. It is interlaced with his story of what has happened to his home town of Selma, Ca. where his family has farmed for five generations. When he was growing up, nobody locked their doors. Now, he has six guard dogs and foreign based gangs have shootouts across the road from his house.

    He agrees that Trump is crass and vulgar and priapic and all that, but points out that great leaders are seldom, if ever, morally pure. Conversely, morally pure leaders tend to be pretty ineffective.

    Well worth a listen.

  103. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Happy Mother’s Day, to the mother Cats

    Still Kittehs at heart we are here, in spite of years of sleep deprivation.

    And thousands of packed school lunches. And lost school sox and jumpers and hats.
    And being sprung with excursion requirements on the morning of.
    And broken bones and sporting sprains and homework-not-done or is this a real headache?
    And driving to music, debating, ballet, band and other lessons, plus Saturday sport and Speech Days.

    Thinking of you, mum, and how you didn’t do any of this stuff. Still loved you but.
    23 years old with three kids under four, broke in a new barren land with only my dad for company.
    A heroine. No wonder you went a bit crazy. Remembered today, with extra love.

  104. Sports Illustrated fat acceptance models:

    You’re not beautiful, YOU’RE DYING!

    I think they tried to pull this stunt again or I am behind the news cycle. A mate sent a pic of “Hunter McGrady” and err…her cardiac surgeon will be swimming through a kiddy pool of fat to give her that 2nd quintiple bypass.

  105. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    One meal a day at about 1 or 2 PM. My wife is forever on a diet

    Hairy and I eat and drink the same things, together. I just eat a bit less of it.
    I can’t imagine how life would proceed otherwise, with both of us doing our own thing.

  106. C.L.

    James Woods has retired from Twitter after being banned for quoting Ralph Waldo Emerson.
    Trump needs to take direct and aggressive action to break up Facebook and Twitter.
    They have to be smashed.

  107. Katter fat shaming Palmer.

    Now this is politics I like.

  108. Bill Thompson

    I was at Fed Square yesterday for a pro-ABC event but at question time, the guy with the roving mic kept ignoring me, so after it was over I asked Kerry O’Brien to check out the cone of silence in the matter of Jon Stephens. I’ll let you all know if I get a response.

    https://youtu.be/AocQjTcPvLE

  109. Geriatric Mayfly

    Katter has been drawing a parliamentary salary since – wait for it – 1974.
    He is the greatest grifter in Australian political history – and that’s saying something.

    I’d love to see the attendance roll and see if Katter is a wagger when the House sits. When it is his turn for a question without notice, he’s always there. The cameras catch every nuance of his long winded question, which he reads from a scroll.

  110. Better men on both sides, as shown in that program, have moved on and learned to cope and forgive and forget. Seek help, Bob.

    “Coping” is not an issue.
    I’m doing well thank you – only retired in 2017.
    I didn’t fully understand this until I rocked up at the Brisbane ANZAC day march this year, and observed the physical state of members of my unit. Many can no longer march. After chatting with a few of them, I don’t think their mental state was all that good either.

    The precondition for “forgiveness”, which is actually reconciliation – is truth. I’ll forgive – once the truth is told. The Catholics amongst you know how that works – first you have to confess your sins. Absolution follows. The troglodytes in the Coalition find that admission frightening.
    The following truths need to be acknowledged.
    1. The USA was fighting for American prestige – not the Vietnamese people. The Pentagon papers make that abundantly clear – it is a fact of history.
    2. The deaths of millions of Vietnamese, 57000 Americans, and 500 Australians, could have been avoided if the US and the South Vietnamese regime at the time had accepted the Geneva accord and held elections.
    3. The Americans knew, by 1968, that they could not win the struggle, and their motives after that were always fixed on domestic politics, not the future of Vietnam. This was true irrespective of which president or party was in power at the time.
    4. The South Vietnamese government had to be cajoled to send a request to Canberra to involve Australian troops. We asked to be invited!
    5. Australian motives for involvement were also driven by local political considerations after Indonesia ceased to be a threat. The Coalition used the fear of Communism to maintain power through the support of the DLP. In this, the local political scene resembled that in America. Australian troops were fighting to keep a Coalition government in power, not to save Vietnam from Communism.
    Once these fundamental truths are accepted, then reconciliation (“forgiveness”) will follow.
    The Kiwis did it on 28 May 2008.
    Our current government has not, and from what I’ve heard when discussing it with the local member, has no interest in doing so.

    Once this apology is made, I’ll move on.
    Until it is, I’ll keep fighting.

  111. James Woods has retired from Twitter after being banned for quoting Ralph Waldo Emerson.

    C.L.

    Why don’t we all IGNORE Twatter and fake book?

    JUST DON’T LOOK!

  112. C.L.

    Today’s Sunday Mail reports that Clive’s Titanic II plan is still on track – but the Swedish naval architect working on the project says the quote is now more like $1 billion. Naval architects only get one Clive Palmer in a lifetime and this bloke is having his.

  113. Mark A

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3010411, posted on May 12, 2019 at 10:44 am

    One meal a day at about 1 or 2 PM. My wife is forever on a diet

    Hairy and I eat and drink the same things, together. I just eat a bit less of it.
    I can’t imagine how life would proceed otherwise, with both of us doing our own thing.

    It’s a bit hard to do when I’m usually hundreds of miles away.

  114. Tel

    How much toxin was free as a contaminant once it was absorbed by the plants? I would think that the locals were more at risk from persistent dioxins in the soil or from the breakdown of plant material releasing the unmetabalised compound.

    There were situations where Agent Orange was sprayed fairly indiscriminately. The troops on both sides wanted to keep out of visibility, so there was no way to know who was getting sprayed. Dioxin hangs around a long time and it is fat soluble so all possible paths of exposure become cumulative, including through direct exposure, and also via food, soil, etc. The effects of Dioxin are usually small, but they keep coming back so it leads to longer term debility and there’s no way to get rid of the stuff. Because it sits in human fat, it might pop up again decades later after some weight loss, for example.

    It’s a good example of how the US government gives priority to short term heroics and positive optics, while ignoring long term hardship caused by their actions. Another example is “America’s Mayor” dumbo Giuliani sending people to shovel asbestos dust after 911 and not even bothering with any notification, warning, safety gear, what have you. A decade later people are dead and hardly anyone cares. Short memory syndrome.

  115. bespoke

    Claiming that repeating something that was said at a campaign event as spying is a stretch, C.L.

  116. Tom

    The ABC is using taxpayers’ money and/or resources to illegally wiretap Tony Abbott.

    But, but … the ABC’s special US correspondent James Comey says, because wire-tapping isn’t actually spying, it’s perfectly normal for the ABC.

  117. 3. The Americans knew, by 1968, that they could not win the struggle,

    Which is why they executed Operation Rolling Thunder II, to err, win?

    Bob. I feel sorry for you. No one should be conscripted. Political difference nearly always mean jackshit when it comes to stuff like a relative dying etc.

    You are definitely not coping. You have little control over your anger and you are revealing WAY too much about yourself despite wanting to remain semi-anonymous. Few veterans need to write a book. Maybe they should, but you have chosen to isolate yourself from real people and have chosen to write to an anonymous audience.

    Go to the RSL and talk with other diggers. You cannot cope on your own.

    You are carrying on with an absurd amount of bullshit because you cannot cope. What you said about America “being unable to win” rather than unwilling is demonstrably wrong and General Giap even said so. Why lie about things that are so obvious? Because you have constructed a fantasy to cope, hence your bloody preposterous glorification of despicable and inhumane regimes such as the god awful Cuban Communist Party.

    Furthermore I have never seen a war veteran or victim of a crime (to me, conscription is tantamount to slavery) use their suffering as a moral amulet in the manner you are doing. It is ungraceful to boot. Please stop.

    I will always respect you as a war veteran but dining out on this shit for 50+ years is not healthy.

    To help you I will not interact with you any further.

  118. Knuckle Dragger

    Aaaaaand we’re off again.

    ‘I didn’t have a crystal ball in 1969’

    ‘I ended up in the army to do a job, not get a job’

    You tried to be a smartarse and roll the ‘numbers’ so you wouldn’t have to do any work at all, only to find out you weren’t the most important spastic herder in Queensland after all and had to go overseas, along with thousands of others who didn’t spend the rest of their lives bitching about it. And then spent your time there trying to get out of doing any real work, finally finding a job as a film critic.

    And still felt so superior to the real diggers, who you demonstrably liken to unskilled labour (see above).

    It’s the same shit every day. If you hadn’t had that microcosm of your life to moan about for the next 50 years you’d be just like Monty without the humour.

    And you’re extremely proud of your ‘service’ – when it suits you, like your tear jerker to Cormann and the time you should have got your teeth kicked in by real vets when you publicly refused your medal.

    Tell us again about how you were so proud of your service that you didn’t want anyone in your home town to know about when you came back. You’re the worst of all hypocrites. You’re a selective hypocrite.

    You are a coward who revels in the national service you tried so hard not to perform.

  119. Stimpson J. Cat

    How did I miss this.
    Absolute classic, The Women are at it again.

    Alyssa Milano
    @Alyssa_Milano
    Our reproductive rights are being erased.

    Until women have legal control over our own bodies we just cannot risk pregnancy.

    JOIN ME by not having sex until we get bodily autonomy back.

    I’m calling for a #SexStrike. Pass it on.
    10:40 AM · May 11, 2019

  120. bespoke

    That comparison make a mockery of the crime, Tom

  121. The Democratic Party machine will roll Gabbard. She can’t leave because they have relied on too many LIVs for far too long.

  122. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can I just say for the record I love everyone who served.
    I even thank waiters, and McDonalds staff for their service.
    #notallheroesgetmedals

  123. John64

    Today’s Sunday Mail reports that Clive’s Titanic II plan is still on track – but the Swedish naval architect working on the project says the quote is now more like $1 billion.

    Clive was blowing his bag on breakfast TV the other day about having $4 billion cash in the bank. Spare change.

  124. In one stroke of the bureaucratic pen, Parks Victoria has closed more than 500sq km to climbing and is handing out $1611 fines, imperilling the sport and casting a shadow over a multi-million-dollar adventure tourism attractio­n

    Come at me bruh. To find me you have to think and act like a goddamned dingo. You want to catch me illegaly camping and fishing? Find me first you turds.

    In Europe it would be reasonable to carry around emergency camping gear. Because we have a much less lethal climate (yes I am aware of the desert), the consideration does not get in the head of some departmental numpty.

  125. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘suffering as a moral amulet’

    Goddamn that’s good, Frank.

  126. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m on the #SexStrike.
    In solidarity with The Women.
    Let’s make it happen people.
    Pass it on.
    😁

  127. DrBeauGan

    Alyssa Milano
    @Alyssa_Milano
    Our reproductive rights are being erased.

    Until women have legal control over our own bodies we just cannot risk pregnancy.

    JOIN ME by not having sex until we get bodily autonomy back.

    I’m calling for a #SexStrike. Pass it on.

    I support this. I promise not to have sex with Alyssa Milano.

  128. POLICE INVESTIGATE DANNY BAKER’S ‘RACIST’ ROYAL BABY TWEET

    He already lost his job – literal clown world.

    Honk honk!

    🤡🌎

  129. Knuckle Dragger

    pete m,

    If I were to subject the whole thing last night to a forensic analysis, which it probably doesn’t deserve I may conclude it being a clumsy attempt by my friendwhoisagirl to rekindle the flame from early last year. Wasn’t going to happen.

    It was a big present, not an expensive one. I like the young kid, who I call Captain Danger due to his habit of sprinting in and around car parks and jumping off things so a $30 K Mart pressie wasn’t a biggie. It was all about the optics – biiiiig wrapped present for the kiddie, presented in front of squealing ladeees who would talk about me positively when I had left. Which they did.

    By arranging for my Keno return at the pub later, Darth Vader told me he approved of the forethought and refunded my investment, plus interest.

  130. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Meanwhile the cat is leaping from table to bookcase to chair and running up the curtains.
    So stupid it’s a wonder they weren’t tapped for Liberal preselection.

    Cats having fun – so great to watch. Someone gave Attapuss a new toy, a black spider with murderous eyes. It is set on the end of an elastic string on a stick, which I hold and manipulate. Attapuss has become quickly addicted to it. I am trying now to extinguish his response by ignoring his constant pleas to me to play with it with him. The family think it is hilarious to see how he harasses me constantly, gently cuffing, nipping and voicing at me to stop reading, blogging, watching TV and attend to his urgent play needs. Eventually I give in, because it’s so cute to see him leaping and pouncing after it, all four legs busy killing it severely, scrabbling at it between his teeth. Little black spider legs are starting to litter the place. Reinforcement sets in due to eventual reward. His received message is if you harass long enough, you’ll get it.

    A message children and husbands then pick up on.
    Also applies to Electorates in the last week of a campaign. 🙂

  131. Until women have legal control over our own bodies we just cannot risk pregnancy.

    Until men are not second class citizens we cannot risk false accusations, divorce courts, faked paternities or working more dangerous jobs for pay equal to sedentary, make work jobs.

  132. johanna

    Tribute to my mother, who died of breast cancer when I was 17.

    I never appreciated her enough, which is not unusual for teenage girls. But, she was the reason I finally got my beloved dog Blackie, as my father hated pets. I also thought she was stupid because she was ‘just a housewife.’ How wrong I was.

    Teenage girls are savages, and how often do we hear of how they and their mothers reconcile once the girls grow up. Sadly, I and my mother never had that chance.

    Happy Mother’s Day, especially to those who are lucky enough to still have one.

  133. Knuckle Dragger

    And I got to perve at a tasty stripper who turned out to be quite a well mannered ladeeee. Dressed in normal chick stuff which made her look hotter than any stripper outfit ever could. And a good conversationalist to boot.

    No, that’s not code for anything. I will move on and reinvent my Tinder profile.

  134. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’d also just like to take this opportunity to wish everyone a happy and safe Ramadan.

  135. Kangaroo Court dude is playing with fire:

    High Court of Australia’s Justice Keane and Justice Edelman caught protecting their bribe-taking and unripe fruit loving judicial mates

    I’m starting to think he’s like Australia’s very own Abigail Williams.

    Yes master! Tituba danced with the devil and the little judges joined in and took bribes!

  136. You are carrying on with an absurd amount of bullshit because you cannot cope. What you said about America “being unable to win” rather than unwilling is demonstrably wrong and General Giap even said so. Why lie about things that are so obvious? Because you have constructed a fantasy to cope, hence your bloody preposterous glorification of despicable and inhumane regimes such as the god awful Cuban Communist Party.

    That is not “bullshit”, but what you are promoting is. Giap knew much more about American democracy than you do.
    In a democracy, where the will of the people is reflected in the Congress it elects, and that Congress lacks the will to win a conflict – that democracy is, by definition “unwilling”.

    Because you have constructed a fantasy to cope, hence your bloody preposterous glorification of despicable and inhumane regimes such as the god awful Cuban Communist Party.

    Verballing again.
    I made comments based on personal observation. I did not “glorify” any regime.
    Because the zeitgeist here has a thing about socialism to the extent that contributors have to toe a politically correct line and condemn it out of hand, my lack of condemnation is taken as “glorification”.
    That’s real insanity. You are so one-eyed that you’ve created a fantasy to rationalise uncomfortable history, and woe betide anyone who doesn’t share it.

  137. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m calling for a #SexStrike. Pass it on.
    10:40 AM · May 11, 2019

    Ho! Hairy’s having his Sunday morning sleep in.
    I’ll go in now and pass it on. 😀

  138. If that stripper worked in Tempe 2 years ago, I met her at a bucks party. Yep, very cute.

  139. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    . The deaths of millions of Vietnamese, 57000 Americans, and 500 Australians, could have been avoided if the US and the South Vietnamese regime at the time had accepted the Geneva accord and held elections.

    Neither the United States nor the South Vietnamese were signatories to the Geneva accords, and North Vietnamese archives reveal that the North Vietnamese flouted the Accords from the minute they were signed, and had no interest in any elections.

  140. Stimpson J. Cat

    And I got to perve at a tasty stripper who turned out to be quite a well mannered ladeeee.

    Every time I’m at the strippers I end up discussing successful parenting techniques with the girls.
    It’s uncanny.
    😂

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’s a bit hard to do when I’m usually hundreds of miles away.

    Ah. Point taken. I used to change my diet when Hairy was away on business trips.

    I’d call in lots more compensatory Chinese food, which I love but he doesn’t. 🙂

  142. Stimpson J. Cat

    OK this thing is starting to get out of hand now.

    Pam Keith
    @PamKeithFL
    Ladies: STOP having sex w/conservative men

    TOTAL👏🏽COMPLETE👏🏽SEX👏🏽BOYCOTT.👏🏽

    Don’t let them anywhere near you. Give them the hand and keep it moving. Get a B.O.B. But make it a rule to run, not walk, from men who want to steal your agency over yourself & your life.

    That’s it.
    10:21 PM · May 10, 2019 from Washington, DC · Twitter for iPhone
    6.1K
    Retweets
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  143. Knuckle Dragger

    Showtime championship boxing on TV on a Sunday morning. Dovetailing nicely with wall to wall football until well after dinner time.

    Just think. If I’d hooked with stripper ladeee last night I’d have been spending today at the local markets, perusing sarongs (‘Isn’t this niiice?’), eating crap laksas followed by detailed discussion on colour schemes for the new bedroom ‘feature wall’, then finding man work to do in the shed to avoid shopping for budgies.

    Followed by the cursed ‘date night’.

    Sometimes it’s good to be the King.

  144. Neither the United States nor the South Vietnamese were signatories to the Geneva accords, and North Vietnamese archives reveal that the North Vietnamese flouted the Accords from the minute they were signed, and had no interest in any elections.

    “80% of the population in Vietnam would have voted for the Communist “Ho Chi Minh” over the Emperor Bảo Đại” Dwight Eisenhower, 1954.

    There were 5 key points to the Geneva Accords –

    1. The Geneva Accords refer to series of agreements pertaining to the future of Vietnam. They were produced during multilateral discussions in Geneva between March and July 1954.
    2. The discussions at Geneva were marred by Cold War paranoia and mistrust. Delegates from some nations refused to negotiate directly, while the United States and South Vietnam refused to sign the Accords.
    3. Under the terms of the Geneva Accords, Vietnam was divided at the 17th parallel for a period of two years. Free elections were scheduled for July 1956 to decide the government of reunified Vietnam.
    4. Both soldiers and militia from North and South Vietnam were instructed to return to their place of origin, while Vietnamese civilians were free to relocate to the north or south.
    5. In 1954-55 the United States launched Operation Passage to Freedom to assist Vietnamese civilians with relocating from north to south. It was a humanitarian mission but also served as propaganda.

    The basic fact about the Geneva accords, as I posted above, is that irrespective of a lack of faith on both sides, if they had been operationalised, enormous suffering on both sides would have been avoided.

    Everything else is a rationalisation of myth that made the sad history a little more palatable for the USA.

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    Legendary stand up Bill Burr has the perfect response to Alyssa Milano, and for that matter every woman who has ever smugly enforced a ‘sex ban’ on their blokes until they come around to their way of thinking/watch MAFS/stop smoking/play or be involved in any sport/agree that their girlfriend X has been hard done by her boyfriend because he left her.

    To paraphrase, rub one out. And in front of her if possible.

    Then the ban is meaningless. Life goes on.

  146. Knuckle Dragger

    Bac phien, Four Leaf Tayback. Bac phien.

    Stay off it. That shit’ll kill ya.

  147. Roger

    Pam Keith
    @PamKeithFL
    Ladies: STOP having sex w/conservative men

    Those aren’t ladies she’s addressing.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    Pam Keith
    @PamKeithFL
    Ladies: STOP having sex w/conservative men

    It’s almost as if she’s saying Wymminses are too stoopid to make their own decisions and need to be directed by a superior being.

  149. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    4. Both soldiers and militia from North and South Vietnam were instructed to return to their place of origin, while Vietnamese civilians were free to relocate to the north or south.

    The clause which the North Vietnamese flouted before the ink was even dry. Several thousand Party Cadres were instructed to stay in the South, while the North Vietnamese prevented anywhere up to half a million people from going South.

  150. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3010465, posted on May 12, 2019 at 11:35 am
    Tucker on a rampage!

    Tucker is wrong for several reasons. One is that weak people and fools need to suffer so they can learn to stop being weak and foolish.

  151. Shy Ted

    Bull Shitten is so yesterday. Clearly the ACT gummint is the way of the future –
    The 20-car Nexo order, the largest hydrogen fleet contract in Australia to date, is understood to be worth around $1 million and helps fulfil the ACT’s zero target of having 50 per cent of its passenger car fleet as electric vehicles by 2019-20.
    The Nexo is the Korean car maker’s second generation hydrogen fuel cell vehicle, combining a 95kW fuel cell stack with a 40kW battery pack.
    Hydrogen acts as the feedstock for the vehicle’s on-board fuel cell stack, which converts the fuel into electricity, with water as the only emission.
    Hydrogen is regarded as an “end game” fuel because of its abundance, yet numerous complexities remain around bringing it to market.
    Introduced into international markets just over a year ago, the Nexo has a driving range of over 800 kilometres on one tank of hydrogen.
    Together with the Toyota Mirai, Hyundai’s medium-sized five door Nexo is one of only two production-built hydrogen cars currently available on the Australian market.

    Hyundai tells us that although local pricing has yet to be confirmed, it would probably be somewhere in the region of $85-$90K.
    Gummint. When other people’ money is no problem.

  152. Stimpson J. Cat

    Damage Control from Little Benny.
    Just sad

    Ben Shapiro
    @benshapiro
    .
    @afneil
    DESTROYS Ben Shapiro! So that’s what that feels like 😉
    Broke my own rule, and wasn’t properly prepared. I’ve addressed every single issue he raised before; see below. Still, it’s Neil 1, Shapiro 0.

    So, Here’s A Giant List Of All The Dumb Stuff I’ve Ever Done (Don’t Worry, I’ll Keep Updating It)
    dailywire.com
    12:57 AM · May 11, 2019

  153. Life goes on.

    The champagne of victory, so they say.

  154. C.L.

    Claiming that repeating something that was said at a campaign event as spying is a stretch, C.L.

    Bullshit.
    The ABC touts it as a “secret” recording.
    Which tells me it wasn’t a “campaign event” at all but a party event.

  155. Bill Thompson

    I was outside Insiders this morning to see if I might have a chance to chat with the scheduled studio guest, Bill Shorten. It turned out I’d already missed him because his interview had been pre-recorded earlier, so he could also participate in the nearby Mother’s Day charity fun run to support breast cancer research – bravo to him for that public spirit! (Reminds me of Tony Abbott’s volunteering, too!) While I was waiting, though, a cab arrived & Lara Tingle emerged, laden with luggage & headed for the studio. I don’t think she was on Insiders today, so maybe she was in Melbourne for a story for 7:30? Anyway, I hope she undertook to offset the disgusting CO2 emissions which result from interstate jet aircraft journeys. OTOH, I did manage to ask her my current burning question…

    https://youtu.be/hCqizPjSyzk

  156. mh

    Bob, please listen to Frank Walker #3010429, posted on May 12, 2019 at 10:57 am

    Frank makes a lot of sense.

  157. Oh come on

    For goodness sake, stop talking to Numpty about Vietnam. His service there is the only thing in his life that is remotely interesting. He knows this and dines out on it constantly, and he will crap on about it until the cows come home if you keep giving him an opening to do so.

    Don’t forget that Grigory eventually buggered off because most people here just ignored him.

  158. Stimpson J. Cat

    weak people and fools need to suffer so they can learn to stop being weak and foolish.

    Well that’s certainly an interesting take.

  159. C.L.

    During this campaign, the ABC has repeatedly used “secret” recordings, listening devices and secreted cameras. Some of these have been financed by both the Australian taxpayer and the terrorist Qatari state. It is the biggest scandal of the campaign but is being treated as normal by the broader media because the targets are – of course – exclusively non-Labor and non-leftist.

  160. Hyundai tells us that although local pricing has yet to be confirmed, it would probably be somewhere in the region of $85-$90K.

    So a fleet of 100% non-fossil fuel cars by 2030 will likely have a direct, explicit c& financial cost of 850 bn AUD+, net of the infrastructure required and other indirect and implicit costs such as unused depreciation or behavioural costs.

    If you think anyone can fund another 85 bn out of nowhere with 1 trillion of government debt, highly levered households, high taxes and recurrent deficits, they’re off their head.

  161. Oh come on

    Damage Control from Little Benny.
    Just sad

    Yes. The ‘I’m popular and you’re not’ jibe was really embarrassing. Dude.

  162. egg_

    Katter has been drawing a parliamentary salary since – wait for it – 1974.

    The turd who egged the Beatles?
    Envy what?

  163. johanna

    I like Ben, but as he admits in this case, he’s guilty of being an arrogant jerk in this case.

    He was just plain lazy to assume that anyone who asks hard questions is a leftie stooge. And, he was really lazy in this case, as Andrew Neill is one of the best known figures in British television. I know about Andrew Neill, a very important person in British television. How come genius Ben didn’t?

    Oh, well. Let’s hope that making an ass of himself in public is a salutory lesson.

  164. Dr BeauGan;

    The general system big organisations use to handle complaints electronically is to make it impossible to let them know they are stuffing up. You can see how popular this will be with the underlings, but if I were in charge and someone had screwed up, I’d want to be able to find out about it. One time I had to write a snailmail letter to the CEO to let them know there was a problem.

    This is not uncommon – except you’ve missed the obvious explanation.
    The boardroom also doesn’t want to hear about the complaints – you see, they costed it out and came to the conclusion that they got feedback cheaper from a couple of girls with big social contact lists. So they got rid of the complaints department and the girls have a direct line to the developers for feedback.
    A lot cheaper than hiring an entire department. And if they lose a customer, then they’ve already made a sale so why worry?
    I bought a N****n Duo system a year ago. It has never downloaded the video to the micro SD card. I went through their complaints process and then sent it back to them. Cost about $35 for postage. It got sent back about six weeks later with a docket telling me the SD card ejection system had been repaired. There was nothing wrong with it.
    ‘Twas then that I realised what the problem was – their warranty/guarantee system wasn’t worth a pinch of shit, but they could point to a process and say they had one to comply with the appropriate regulations.

  165. I am pretty sure the Katter clan have accumulated over 15 mn in assets from their Parliamentary salary and pensions.

    Easy to buy big pastoral holdings when some schleppers down a mine have paid for it.

  166. Tom

    Tucker on a rampage!

    I find it enthrallingly ugly that, since our rich leftist overlords have become the new Establishment, it’s just like the Sixties all over again: the fascist Pig State versus the citizenry — except the yoof aren’t rebelling like they were in the Sixties: thanks to their systematic diseducation, they’re now the Pig State’s Brown Shirt street hooligans snuffing out dissent against the ruling class wherever they find it.

    PS: Carlson’s rant against the Pig State’s usury was a beautifully written classic. Look it up on YouTube.

  167. C.L.

    I’d never heard of Andrew Neil.
    Is there any evidence he has ever grilled a leftist?
    Let’s see it.

  168. egg_

    “A waste of a good egg” opines Annabelle Crabs.

    Was she wearing her vagina egg at the time?

  169. vlad

    Has anyone else heard the “not voiced or endorsed by David Attenborough” GetUp ads on the radio? Unbelievable.

    After the disclaimer, one hears a pitch-perfect David Attenborough impersonator telling you not to vote Liberal. That’s all. And there’s another disclaimer at the end: “celebrity impersonator”.

    If you only caught the middle of it, you would be deceived. And this is legal?

  170. Exactly C.L.

    Neil has given the British public stuff all other than to run interference. Shapiro has sliced and diced leftists for years.

    To be honest though, Shapiro wasn’t as bad as he is made out to be, that is just carnival barking by nutty senpai who want sensei Trump to notice them.

    There is no way this Neil dickhead would fare well in a fair longform discussion. He’d Jack Dorsey himself.

  171. Shy Ted

    Or as I said to the lady in Florida on my recent holiday there, “Me, conservative? Nah.” The funniest bit is when you cry, “Oh, Trump” instead of “Oh, God” but it’s too late by then.

  172. Atoms:

    There will be plenty of business opportunities for big diesel gennies in B doubles acting as EV charging stations. They will also make a few quid selling coffees.

    I’ve just decided to make a quid by putting my home 8kva genset on the back of the trailer, and advertised for stranded electromotorists to give me a call and I’ll come out and give them a recharge.
    For a fee, of course.
    A small one.*

    *I decide small.

  173. Oh come on

    I think Shapiro was right to take Neill to task about characterising the pro life position as a return to the dark ages. But Shapiro acted butthurt throughout, whining about bias and eventually tossing his toys out of the pram.

  174. Knuckle Dragger

    Egg,

    You don’t ‘wear’ vagina eggs.

    You ‘mother’ them.

  175. bespoke

    C.L.
    #3010476, posted on May 12, 2019 at 11:52 am
    Claiming that repeating something that was said at a campaign event as spying is a stretch, C.L.

    Bullshit.
    The ABC touts it as a “secret” recording.
    Which tells me it wasn’t a “campaign event” at all but a party event.

    If it was a private meeting I would be more sympathetic to the connection to Trump. And “secret” means only it was an undeclared recording and most likely described that way to troll for reaction. The story is a nothing burger anyway and sympathetic to Abbott. I support Project Veritas and student’s recording teachers talking sh#T.

  176. Shy Ted

    Look at all that rubble next to the ABC building in Bill Thompson’ video. Methinks they knocked down the wrong building.

  177. I am pretty sure the Katter clan have accumulated over 15 mn in assets from their Parliamentary salary and pensions.
    Easy to buy big pastoral holdings when some schleppers down a mine have paid for it.

    Please name a few of those big pastoral holdings.
    Each & every pastoral holding has a name.

  178. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’d never heard of Andrew Neil.
    Is there any evidence he has ever grilled a leftist?
    Let’s see it.

    Benny stormed off the interview to find his Safe Space.
    How the f$ck can you take him seriously?
    Jesus Christ.
    Wake up you idiots.

  179. Stimpson J. Cat

    Only actors are allowed to storm out of interviews.
    Everyone knows this.

  180. Eddystone

    C.L.
    #3010491, posted on May 12, 2019 at 12:01 pm

    I’d never heard of Andrew Neil.
    Is there any evidence he has ever grilled a leftist?
    Let’s see it.

    Dianne Abbott

  181. calli

    Has anyone else heard the “not voiced or endorsed by David Attenborough” GetUp ads on the radio? Unbelievable.

    A pompous Pommie voice* telling the antipodean plebs how to vote?

    Sure to work.

    * and, as it turns out, the real Walrus Man is a charlatan

  182. C.L.

    I didn’t know the name but I did recognise that fat-headed ogre, Andrew Neil.
    He is not a good interviewer and he is certainly not an equal opportunity interrogator. He’s a garden variety leftist twat that years of BBC million-pound salaries have turned into an unflappable journalistic tyrant and sociopath.
    And women have a point about ugly men getting an unfair break as TV presenters. Neil would scare a butcher out of a butcher’s shop.

  183. johanna

    Bull Shitten is so yesterday. Clearly the ACT gummint is the way of the future –
    The 20-car Nexo order, the largest hydrogen fleet contract in Australia to date, is understood to be worth around $1 million and helps fulfil the ACT’s zero target of having 50 per cent of its passenger car fleet as electric vehicles by 2019-20.
    The Nexo is the Korean car maker’s second generation hydrogen fuel cell vehicle, combining a 95kW fuel cell stack with a 40kW battery pack.
    Hydrogen acts as the feedstock for the vehicle’s on-board fuel cell stack, which converts the fuel into electricity, with water as the only emission.
    Hydrogen is regarded as an “end game” fuel because of its abundance, yet numerous complexities remain around bringing it to market.

    Yet another reminder of why I am so glad to have left the ACT. In a community of less than 400,000 people, they are throwing over a billion dollars at a light rail system which will never, even on the most optimistic projections, pay for itself. In doing so, they destroyed the grand entrance into Canberra from Sydney, the magnificent treescape, and want to turn it into ugly and revenue-generating highrises. All in the name of saving Da Planet.

    They tinker endlessly with the bus system, which means that people can never plan for the future. Their latest round of tinkering has left people with longer commutes. But, hey, they are doing something! Just likre they periodically spend millions on ‘doing something’ to Garema Place, which used to be quite functional until the town planners got hold of it.

    Both of the major parties are compromised by links with land developers, a situation which goes back to before self government. When I worked in the then Department of the Capital Territory in the early 1970s, the Lands division was well known to be corrupt. It was the only currency around, and plenty of people made money out of it. Nothing much has changed.

    Meanwhile, the rates go up and up and up. I checked out what I would be paying for my old shack in Narrabundah, and it is now much more than $100 a week.

    Tha’s a lot to get your garbage collected, which was the only service I used.

  184. Oh come on

    Shapiro spends a good chunk of his podcast (rightly) railing against leftist media bias. What was he expecting to find on the BBC? It’s not just that he could have handled that interview better, which he concedes. It’s also about how he behaved when he was piqued. Thin-skinned, bratty, petulant – very similar to what he criticises Trump as being.

  185. Pam Keith
    @PamKeithFL
    Ladies: STOP having sex w/conservative men

    Who usually earn more money and who are more athletic.

    We can always wait for younger women. Pam Keith turns 51 this year. Enjoy being a cool wine Aunt.

    Pam Keith also said on Twitter: GOP = white supremacy sharia (2 days ago).

    Will a good man with an M.D. and MA (Psych) visit this poor lady. I think she’s desperate for a good dose of clonazepam.

    Amazing how she got into the USN with such intense mental illness and all of the ’tisms.

    Keith earned her J.D. from Boston College Law School in 1995. She received her M.A. and B.A. in rhetoric and communication from the University of California in 1992 and 1990, respectively

    Good lord.

  186. mh

    Theresa May is destroying the Conservative Party

    Democratic Revolution: Farage’s Brexit Party Pulls Ahead of Tories in General Election Poll

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/05/11/democratic-revolution-farages-brexit-party-pulls-ahead-of-tories-in-general-election-poll/

  187. VPNs
    I’ve been looking up the details but no one seems to have any complaints about problems in terms of operating systems? Are there issues with VPN and system compatibility?
    IOW, will a VPN cause system crashes?
    Answers in Winstonspeak, please. (Ten year old in other words.)

  188. Please name a few of those big pastoral holdings.
    Each & every pastoral holding has a name.

    Here’s a better idea. You tell me. You purport to know what the names are!

    Mr Katter said he was clueless about the family properties listed in the name of his wife, despite living in one of the homes.

    He does a pretty neat impersonation of Sir Joh Bjelke Petersen.

    Quite frankly though I’m actually against disclosure of assets for privacy and security reasons.

  189. thefrollickingmole

    Just think of yourselves as very wealthy,
    my League of Fatties.
    😁


    Dredd did it first…

    The future is here.

    Saddest thing is the “real” fatties are too lazy to just use bellywheels, they go for the whole scooter.

  190. Gilas

    Like sands through the hourglass

    …and just like the inexorable precession of the Earth-axis..

    ..so do cats feed the troll.

    Remarkable!

  191. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Morrison announces home loan scheme

    Scott Morrison has announced a new ‘first home loan deposit scheme’ which will enable first home owners to buy their first home with a deposit of down to 5 per cent.

    “We want to help make the dreams of first home buyers a reality.”

    “This will make a big difference. Cutting the time taken to save for a deposit by at least half and more,” he said.

    “This scheme will be available to buyers with an income of up to $125,000 or a couple with $200,000, where they are both first home buyers. Support would stay in place for the life of the loan and when they refinance in a few years time, when the equity increases.”

    “(It) will include guarantees to approved applicants of the additional loan amount taken out by the first home buyer to cover the difference between the lower deposit, say 5 per cent, and the 20 per cent of the value of the property.”

    From the Oz.

  192. C.L.

    Shapiro comes across as a manic brat tweaked on meth.

  193. Grigory M

    Grigory eventually buggered off

    Nah – wishful thinking on your part.

    Grigory M retired early – as he said in July last year – and has since spent much time lowering his golf handicap – currently plays off 4. He has also spent much time beach fishing with the restored vintage rods and reels – catching and releasing big Australian Salmon and catching and grilling Tailor. He still comments occasionally here – usually a page or two late on the Open Forum .

    The other Grigory morphed into a would be politician.

    Btw – Grigory M does not have cancer, as far as he knows. I’m sure many of you will be pleased about that.

  194. Under the proposal, first home owners will be able to buy their first home with a deposit of down to 5 per cent.

    The Prime Minister said that the government’s National Housing Finance and Investment Corporation would be resourced to guarantee to approved applicants the additional loan amount to cover the difference between the lower deposit and the requirement to pay 20 per cent of the value of the property upfront.

    Good god this is a bad idea.

    This is much like the US system where the Federal government (FHA in HUD) would pay the PMI on mortgages, usually low/no money down and typically non-conforming.

  195. Stimpson J. Cat

    Dredd did it first…

    I have that very issue.
    😁

  196. Makka

    Fmd, Andrew Probyn of all ABC Marxist journos providing totally unbiased commentary on the LNP campaign launch. Just a day or so after Labor promise more millions to the ALPBC.

  197. Not Uh oh

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3010482, posted on May 12, 2019 at 11:57 am
    If you think anyone can fund another 85 bn out of nowhere with 1 trillion of government debt, highly levered households, high taxes and recurrent deficits, they’re off their head.

    Nonsense, Labor could do it in a canter.

  198. bespoke

    Winston Smith
    #3010513, posted on May 12, 2019 at 12:26 pm
    If I don’t turn off my VPN and reboot Outlook stops sending email plus for some sites i’m required to prove i’m not a bot.

  199. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look it’s time for an honest Catallaxy Election Prediction Poll.

    Who will win the Election,
    Scotty or Billy?

    No I’m not going to keep track of who said what, one the girls can do it.

    I’m calling it for Scotty.
    That way I won’t be disappointed if Billy wins.

  200. DrBeauGan

    Why are these sites so anxious to keep out bots? Unfair to bots!

  201. areff

    The kabuki rituals of modern Victoria.

    1/ Police burst into wrong address, rough up and “seriously injure” an entirely innocent man.

    2/ Victim happens to be gay

    3/ Gay activists want to know if VicPol was inspired by homophobia.

    Meanwhile, two people shot at a fancy dress party continue to recover, a Royal Commission investigates the Lawyer X affair, leaks about Mokbel see him knifed the next day and big bald nob Simon Overland is revealed to have warned off Internal Affairs from the scene of the Hodkin shootings lest people assume “the police were involved.” Oh, and just for good measure, they George pell frame-up

    Priorities! Priorities! Write those speeding tickets, officer. The Hunchback needs the money.

    If we had an Opposition in Victoria, that RC would be looking into every aspect of policing in the Garden State. There are worms under every blue rock.

  202. John Constantine;

    The top end of town is the new magic pudding, it is to shorten what the venezuelan national oil company was to chavez.

    The New Magic Pudding – Albert – will do exactly what the oil industry did when Chavez took over. The ones with money and sense will move elsewhere.
    Shorten will have the same effect on Australia that Hitler had on Germany with the Joos – a forced brain drain that cost Germany the war.

    Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.
    Robert A. Heinlein

  203. thefrollickingmole

    Dredd did it first…

    I have that very issue.
    😁

    So you have your own bellywheel, eating tray and weigh 250kg+

    Be honest we wont judge fatty my fattypants, king of elasticized waistbands, ravager of the KFC drive through, 2 tonne Stimpy

  204. johanna

    Tits espouses a scheme which enables people who cannot afford a home loan to get one.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Has this never been tried before?

    Good grief.

  205. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    And I got to perve at a tasty stripper who turned out to be quite a well mannered ladeeee. Dressed in normal chick stuff which made her look hotter than any stripper outfit ever could. And a good conversationalist to boot.

    you shoulda brought a large cake she coulda popped out of

    I always thought a stripper was a hooker with L plates

  206. Bruce of Newcastle

    Advert for Kerryn Phelps on the teev just now.
    When did single independents get moolah enough to do tv election advertising?
    Lots of money sloshing around. I wonder where it all is coming from?
    On the other hand they’d only be doing it if they thought Labor could lose.

  207. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3010480, posted on May 12, 2019 at 11:55 am
    weak people and fools need to suffer so they can learn to stop being weak and foolish.

    Well that’s certainly an interesting take.

    It’s the basis for my whole theory of parenting, Stimpy. Developed retroactively after I had discovered that my earlier theories didn’t work.

  208. Infidel Tiger

    Britain Elects
    @britainelects
    ·
    10h
    European Parliament voting intention:

    BREX: 34% (+6)
    LAB: 21% (-7)
    LDEM: 12% (+5)
    CON: 11% (-3)
    GRN: 8% (+2)
    UKIP: 4% (+1)
    CHUK: 3% (-4)

    via
    @OpiniumResearch
    , 08 May
    Chgs. w/ 23 Apr

    Wow. Wow. Wow.

    Just a reminder that Brexit Party did not exist 2 months ago.

  209. thefrollickingmole

    Norway, a model for Australia??

    Smoke, Drink and Eat What You Want, Norway’s Public Health Minister Says

    It was a most unusual message from a health official: People should be allowed to eat, drink and smoke as they see fit.

    Norway’s new minister in charge of public health said this week that adults did not need government lectures about what to put in their bodies, but it sounded a bit like she was telling people to go ahead and indulge. Critics protested that her remarks were damaging, particularly coming from someone in her position.

    I think people should be allowed to smoke, drink and eat as much red meat as they like,” Sylvi Listhaug, the government’s minister for the elderly and public health, said in an interview posted on Monday on the website of NRK, Norway’s state broadcaster. “The government may provide information, but I think people in general know what is healthy and what is not.”

    The interview was published just three days after she took over the ministry, and it was dotted with the kind of sharp, controversial comments Ms. Listhaug, deputy leader of the right-wing, anti-immigration Progress Party, is known for.

  210. C.L.

    Meanwhile, two people shot at a fancy dress party continue to recover, a Royal Commission investigates the Lawyer X affair, leaks about Mokbel see him knifed the next day and big bald nob Simon Overland is revealed to have warned off Internal Affairs from the scene of the Hodkin shootings lest people assume “the police were involved.” Oh, and just for good measure, they George Pell frame-up

    Remember when Four Corners used to relish these sorts of situations?
    Last year they ran an unprecedented three-part ‘investigation’ of Trump’s ‘collusion’ with Wussia.
    A three week television series. It was all nonsense and lies – as Mueller demonstrated.
    No apologies, no retraction.

  211. Cassie of Sydney

    “Oh come on
    #3010510, posted on May 12, 2019 at 12:21 pm
    Shapiro spends a good chunk of his podcast (rightly) railing against leftist media bias. What was he expecting to find on the BBC? It’s not just that he could have handled that interview better, which he concedes. It’s also about how he behaved when he was piqued. Thin-skinned, bratty, petulant – very similar to what he criticises Trump as being.”

    Yep…..I have watched the exchange…..Andrew Neil makes mince meat out of Ben Shapiro. It’s actually embarrassing. I reckon Shapiro, like a lot of Americans, is probably quite clueless when it comes to anything NOT American…..so he walked into a trap and he was up against a very formidable…actually a ferocious…interviewer who over the years has interviewed people from Margaret Thatcher to Ken Livingstone . If Shapiro had the sense to talk to Milo…Milo would have warned him. But no, Shapiro thinks he’s above Milo and he thinks he’s above everybody else, including men and women twice his age. Whilst I think Shapiro does a good job as a voice of American conservatism….he is not the only one…there are many others and many of those don’t have his smug attitude. No doubt Shapiro thought he was better than Andrew Neil but that was a grave mistake…..Neil exposed Shapiro for being the little petulant boy he is.

  212. bespoke

    It’s a win win for numbers. Don’t respond then he can post unchallenged, respond you get pulled into endless spiral’s feeding his victim hood.

  213. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Look it’s time for an honest Catallaxy Election Prediction Poll.

    Who will win the Election,
    Scotty or Billy?

    scotty, I find it difficult to comprehend that so many aussies are such assholes as to vote for uberfuhrershorten

  214. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It’s a win win for numbers. Don’t respond then he can post unchallenged, respond you get pulled into endless spiral’s feeding his victim hood.

    he only posts to get a response, no response and he will move on somewhere else for self-validation

  215. Knuckle Dragger

    Fair point Zippy;

    Quite a few strippers are indeed skanks, one step away from hawking the fork or performing in the ‘private booths’ at the Crazy horse, or both.

    The ones in the established clubs, like Goldfingers and the Men’s Gallery et al are, for the most part, chicks with sensational rigs who reasonably think that they could turn all that gym sweat and/or genetics into cash. The amount of uni students doing it to pay for their education is significant. They earn great coin in study-friendly hours, the clubs themselves are highly self-regulated (no touch or you might fall down some stairs) so they’re safe The competition at these levels is such that management keeps the interests of the girls at heart to stop them leaving.

    If I was a good looking bit of crumpet in my early 20s I’d be in that line of work in a heartbeat.

  216. stackja

    areff
    #3010540, posted on May 12, 2019 at 12:56 pm
    VicPol’s latest Keystone triumph:

    Electorate in dreamtime?

  217. Knuckle Dragger

    Hmmm. It would appear that the Punctuation Fairy is busy. All my calls are going through to voicemail.

  218. feelthebern

    ScoMo’s first home buyer scheme is idiocy & straight out of a Kevin Rudd 20/20 summit thought bubble.
    FFS.

  219. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bruce of Newcastle
    #3010541, posted on May 12, 2019 at 12:59 pm
    Advert for Kerryn Phelps on the teev just now.
    When did single independents get moolah enough to do tv election advertising?
    Lots of money sloshing around. I wonder where it all is coming from?
    On the other hand they’d only be doing it if they thought Labor could lose.”

    The slag of Wentworth was quoted on Friday as saying…”“I believe Australia should provide better urgent medical treatment for asylum-seekers in our care but I also support boat turnbacks and towbacks and a regional resettlement process.”

    Well…that’s very interesting….I can assure you that she wasn’t talking about boat turnbacks and towbacks last October. I think the slag of Wentworth is worried…very worried. I reckon Sharma will win.

  220. Bruce of Newcastle

    will a VPN cause system crashes?

    Winston – Had none with tb since I went with them after the Christchurch censorship assault.
    It has been fine in background to games. I have it on a Win7 and a Win10 system.
    Sometimes the auto doesn’t connect if there’s other stuff going on in the system, but an off/on of the VPN always works.
    Gmail gives problems in Outlook as Bespoke describes, so I just turn off the VPN to check email.
    But Gmail has gone bonkers, so that’s really another Goolag issue.

  221. No doubt Shapiro thought he was better than Andrew Neil but that was a grave mistake…..Neil exposed Shapiro for being the little petulant boy he is.

    Let’s see a non-softball interview of a leftist first before we cream our pants in excitement that someone can get undeserving schadenfreude for Milo being an absolute shit towards Shapiro’s wife and child.

  222. feelthebern

    There needs to be a proper RC into VicPol.
    Terms of reference so wide & budget so big & a time frame so long that everything can be looked at.
    If the Vic Libs made that their only policy, it would be a winner.
    But they won’t.
    Because they are idiots.
    & VicPol probably has a Hoover style file on a lot of them.

  223. DrBeauGan

    If I was a good looking bit of crumpet in my early 20s I’d be in that line of work in a heartbeat.

    And if you were a cumulus cloud, you’d be all white and fluffy.

    Racist.

  224. johanna

    areff, as a New South Welshperson, I thought we had the trophy when it came to corruption. I’ve studied NSW politics intensively, and the only Premier who was not corrupt (but I exclude later participants) was Nick Greiner, and probably John Fahey.

    Victoria has a very different political culture, much more ideological, whereas NSW was and is more pragmatic.

    The stacking of the judiciary by Labor is, to me, one of the worst things they ever did. Not only are they leftist automatons when appropriate cases came before them, they are at best mediocre lawyers. Frankly, a lot of them are dumb. They could be julienned by any one of the QCs practising in Victoria, and frequently are.

    In a State obsessed with ideology, you also got police commissioners and those below who thought that the ends justified the means.

    How anyone with a functioning brain thought that running a defence lawyer as an informant was going to end well is hard to imagine.

    Oh, well. You’ve got your troubles, I’ve got mine. 🙂

  225. feelthebern

    Something not quite right about Shapiro.

  226. Infidel Tiger

    ScoMo’s first home buyer scheme is idiocy & straight out of a Kevin Rudd 20/20 summit thought bubble.
    FFS.

    Rubbish.

    Without affordable homes, we can’t have families.

    It’s a small step to help address the greatest crisis in australian life right now.

  227. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    Conflicts throughout history become serial when an enemy is not utterly defeated and is not forced to submit to the political conditions of the victor.

    — Victor Hanson

  228. Cassie of Sydney

    “bespoke
    #3010550, posted on May 12, 2019 at 1:06 pm
    It’s a win win for numbers. Don’t respond then he can post unchallenged, respond you get pulled into endless spiral’s feeding his victim hood.”

    When it comes to Scumbers…he needs help…to paraphrase a classic Seinfeld clip “a regular psychiatrist couldn’t help him, he needs to go to Vienna or something, he needs a university, like where Freud studied, he needs a team…a team of psychiatrists…working round the clock”.

  229. Cassie of Sydney

    “johanna
    #3010563, posted on May 12, 2019 at 1:15 pm”

    Agree about Nick Greiner…not sure about Fahey.

  230. stackja

    IATA: SGN

    Ho given heave.

  231. Cassie of Sydney

    “Milo being an absolute shit towards Shapiro’s wife and child.”

    Yes I am aware of Milo’s adolescent tweets about Shapiro’s child. But Shapiro is no saint.

  232. Des Deskperson

    ‘They tinker endlessly with the bus system, which means that people can never plan for the future. Their latest round of tinkering has left people with longer commutes.’

    Johanna, people who use the ACT bus system to commute – as opposed to me who just rides around the burbs – tell nm that they now have to change buses much more frequently. Since you have to tap on and off every time you enter and leave a bus, that will mean mote ‘trips’ and the government will be able to boast that patronage has increased.

    It’s the sort of shabby sub-cerebral Tammany Hall standard con that we have come to expect from the Barr Labor/Greens government, and it fools nobody.

    The Barr Government – and Barr himself – are widely despised and disliked, even by rusted-on Labor voters. Whether this will make any difference in the upcoming Federal election is another matter. It might even see a swing back to Labor from some Greens voters, the coalition with the Greens – not just an alliance, but with Greens in the Minatory – being seen as one of ACT Labor’s fundamental problems. The Federal Labor candidates are unimpressive, David Smith – the Labor candidate in Bean – is a nice bloke, but he has all the energy, talent and charisma of a sea urchin.

    ‘ In doing so, they destroyed the grand entrance into Canberra from Sydney,’

    There is certainly some ugly sh*t going down – or going up – there. One new apartment block just behind where MacArthur house used to be looks like a chemical plant’s admin building.

    Dreadfully, dreary, grey and bleak over here in Weston Creek. How’s Queanbeyan??

  233. C.L.

    The corrupt days in Queensland were the go-go days.
    The ETU went on strike and shut down the state’s power. Joh sacked them all.
    Leftists marched in the street … Special Branch truncheoned and arrested them.
    Good times.

  234. The slag of Wentworth

    ???

    You’re not helping Dave Sharma.

    Incidentally, if we were to ask Dave Sharma what proportion of GDP the state should be, would he give me a % number less than 20?

    I’ll grant you that Phelps probably thinks 60%.

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