Monday Forum: May 13, 2019

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  1. MatrixTransform

    just voted.
    put the nice vegan lady that lives a couple of doors up second last before Greens
    The Senate was a box trifecta with Mr Bailey and the usual suspects flowing to the Libs, but kept numbering all the way to 23….just to make a point.

    I am dumbstruck at how little understanding the average punter has about how all this works.

  2. Tel

    Killing cancer cells is hard enough. Knocking off cells that are just sitting around and doing nothing, without also killing the owner of ’em, is going to be really tough.

    It’s easier than you think. Starve yourself for a few days and there’s an inbuilt mechanism where the body simply starts eating anything laying around the place, starting from whoever seems most useless.

    If you are going to do it for real, might want to check up online there’s discussion about how to go about it.

    Would be excellent if we could do the same to government.

  3. Anyone who deals regularly with Immigration, sorry, Border Farce, will have noticed that sometime in the past few weeks they commenced implementing the agenda of the incoming ALP government.

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    As I linked this morning Durham already has direct experience with Mueller over the Whitey Bulger scandals.

    Trump pardoning Conrad Black today, who as JC reported upthread also fell foul of Mueller, is a double whammy.

    Taken together it means “lawyer up, guys”.

  5. Boambee John

    Wonder what Scumbers prefers…..him being such an admirer of totalitarian dictatorships such as Cuba where they happily hang political opponents.

    I thought the Cubans favoured shooting? Apparently the sainted Che liked to take his turn occasionally.

  6. Mitch M.

    Killing cancer cells is hard enough. Knocking off cells that are just sitting around and doing nothing, without also killing the owner of ’em, is going to be really tough.

    It is challenging and one of the limitations is the tissue where the senescent cells are resident. Early trials indicate success in eliminating some type of senescent cells. Cancer cells are harder to kill because they typically have high growth rates whereas senescent cells are in the exact opposite state and are in sense already half dead, gone into last ditch survival mode.

  7. max

    “vote for change,

    Fuck off !

  8. Roger

    Just picked up some Corflutes (the rigid posters advertising the Party) and HTV’s for the Australian Conservatives for me and Hairy to use on Saturday at our chosen booths. They also threw in some couture T-shirts and an elegant peaked cap, so there is no concern about what to wear.

    God bless you, Lizzie.

    (And Hairy!)

  9. Geriatric Mayfly

    Delingpole reviews Chris Lilley’s ‘Lunatics’ in the Speccie, by first quoting the Guardian’s one star gong: “Unfunny, boring and utterly unrelenting…” Also deemed “problematic.”( Now there’s a word.)
    Delingpole goes on to give it a very good rap, none of his snowflake sensitivities triggered one iota.

  10. Geriatric Mayfly

    will have noticed that sometime in the past few weeks they commenced implementing the agenda of the incoming ALP government.

    D arkies and M o o oslies walk straight through??

  11. Roger

    If the LNP wins, there will be a lot of distraught Greens sitting in their EVs with hoses attached.

    Now that deserves some recognition.

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I am dumbstruck at how little understanding the average punter has about how all this works.

    Try handing out “How to Vote cards” sometime – “My dad voted Labor all his life, and his dad before him, and I’ve voted Labor all my life.” You learn to bite your lip…

  13. Des Deskperson

    Speaking of Gough and Johannes, as we were earlier on the thread, takes me back to December 1974, when I was a very new and junior clerk in the Department of Defence sent out to Fairborn RAAF base early one Monday morning with some last minute briefing notes for the Minister and his party who were off on an official visit to South East Asia.

    The BAC 111 was on the tarmac with its lights flashing, The Secretary, the CDFS and their staff were there but no sign of Lance Barnard, Gough’s Minister for Defence.

    We waited and waited, and after 90 minutes or thereabouts, Barnard suddenly arrived – the first and last time I ever saw him in person – with what my grandmother would have called ‘a face like a meataxe’, grimly mounted the gangway and they were off.

    it was the Monday after the 1974 Queensland State elections, when the Bjelke-Petersen government was returned with a 16.75 % swing and the Labor party was reduced to 11 seats in the Queensland Parliament. The delay was because Gough had called an emergency meeting of the Parliamentary Labor party to, err, discuss the debacle.

    I dunno what went on at that meeting, but I assume it was pretty unpleasant for all concerned. i was and am no political scientist, but I remember instinctively remarking that weekend as the real beginning of the end for Gough.

  14. Nob

    Greenies turn on Norway:

    Norway’s state-controlled Equinor has rejected a motion proposed by environmental groups that it should pull out of exploration in eco-sensitive areas such as the Great Australian Bight and south-east Barents Sea in the Arctic.

    The proposal was put forward by minority shareholders Greenpeace and WWF at the company’s annual general meeting in Stavanger on Wednesday amid mounting opposition to its plans to drill the controversial Stromlo-1 well in the Bight near a marine park that is a haven for sea life and rare flora.

    It stated that the company’s plans to drill for oil and gas in frontier areas, immature areas and particularly sensitive areas, is not in the best long-term interest of its shareholders.

    This was based on the goal of the Paris climate accord, to which Norway is a signatory, to limit the global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius through halving carbon dioxide emissions by 2030 by curbing exploitation of pollutive fossil fuels such as oil and gas.

    “Such projects represent both reputational risk and require significant capital expenditure. This outlay of funds is not in the interests of shareholders, and constitutes financial and reputational risk to our company,” the motion stated.

    Delegates attending the meeting were greeted by green demonstrators brandishing anti-drilling banners outside the company’s offices.

    However, the motion was defeated as shareholders – including dominant owner the Norwegian state with a 67% stake – voted against it after the company fielded questions at the AGM over its environmental policy from Australian Aborigines and surfers who attended the meeting, as well as local politicians and green activists.

    Australian and local activists earlier this week staged a so-called paddle-out with canoes, kayaks and surfboards in the Oslo fjord off the nation’s capital to demonstrate against the plans, including Aboriginal elder Bunna Lawrie of the Mirning people – the traditional lands of which border the Bight.

    Bight activists take kayaks to Oslo
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    The waterborne protest mirrored similar demonstrations that have taken place in Australia as widespread community opposition grows, backed by the country’s Green Party as well as environmental groups.

    Wilderness Society climate campaigner Jess Lerch reportedly told the AGM: “There is a big problem for your company in Australia. Equinor’s plan to drill the Stromlo well in the Great Australian Bight is currently one of Australia’s most controversial development projects.

    “Seventeen local governments have passed motions raising serious concerns and opposition to Equinor’s exploration drilling plans in the Great Australian Bight. Community protest is widespread, it is consistent, determined and it is becoming global.”

    The group’s South Australia director Peter Owen said more than 85% of animals and plants existing in the Bight cannot be found elsewhere on Earth and “an accident there would therefore be an extinction event”.

    The meeting also heard from Lawrie, who said Equinor had not consulted directly with indigenous peoples such as himself despite the company’s claim that there has been extensive consultation over its environmental plan for the Bight.

    Equinor chief executive Eldar Saetre responded to criticism with an apparently prepared statement in which he said: “Dialogue is a key value and is very important for us, and we also want to hear contrary viewpoints.

    “We have heard different views on our planned activities in the Great Australian Bight, and not only negative views. But we have one thing in common and that is our concern for the environment.

    “Let me reassure you that our highest priority is safe and responsible operations.”

    The company’s board said in a statement in response to the motion: “Equinor has climate at the core of its business strategy and our ambition is to remain an industry leader in carbon efficiency.”

    It added that all exploration activity was subject to thorough analysis and planning to “ensure it is carried out safely and with minimal impact to the environment, that it can generate value to shareholders and society and that the carbon footprint is as low as possible”.

    Greenpeace Norway campaigner Martin Norman said though after the meeting “it is sad that Equinor, with the Norwegian state as its largest shareholder, does not recognise the climate crisis but again puts greed before the interests of the planet”.

  15. John64

    Bob Hawke has passed away at the age of 89.

  16. Nob

    The group’s South Australia director Peter Owen said more than 85% of animals and plants existing in the Bight cannot be found elsewhere on Earth and “an accident there would therefore be an extinction event”.

    That is one of the worst bits of bullshit, among many.

    They are talking about drilling in an area with regular natural oil seepages, hundreds of km from the nearest coastline.

    Extinction event, my hairy arse.

  17. A tribute to Tim Conway

    This would never get on the air today

  18. Eyrie

    Bob Hawke just shuffled off the mortal cpoil and did his country one last service by getting off the prime ministerial pension.

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    Norway’s state-controlled Equinor has rejected a motion proposed by environmental groups that it should pull out of exploration in eco-sensitive areas such as the Great Australian Bight

    the motion was defeated as shareholders – including dominant owner the Norwegian state with a 67% stake – voted against it

    Princess Martha of Norway is going to be spitting chips. With a CV like her’s she has got to be a green. Ah well she’ll have to take comfort in the arms of her big black shaman.

  20. John64
    #3013884, posted on May 16, 2019 at 7:45 pm

    Bob Hawke has passed away at the age of 89.

    Yep, Bob has popped his clogs. I expect McTits to politicise it in 3 – 2 – 1

  21. Gab

    Bob Hawke just shuffled off the mortal cpoil

    And only a day after he wrote an open letter praising Shorten.

  22. Arky

    Bob Hawke has passed away at the age of 89.

    ..
    Bastard trying to influence the results by dying on the eve of an election.
    Should be illegal.

  23. calli

    Hawke was the only Labor person I ever voted for…and instantly regretted it as the paper slipped into the ballot box.

    I blame that other Malcolm for my lapse of intelligence.

  24. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bob Hawke just shuffled off the mortal cpoil

    Bet he still lodges his ballot on Saturday.

  25. Arky

    Liberals should retaliate by having one of their ex- PMs die too.
    Come on Malcolm.

  26. Old Lefty

    Mother Lode is spot on re Hawke and Whitlam. I have it on pretty good authority that Hawke:s chief message when chairing his first cabinet meeting in 1983 was: we must not repeat the mistakes of the Whitlam government.

  27. Gab

    Bob Hawke just shuffled off the mortal cpoil

    Bet he still lodges his ballot on Saturday.

    Winner, winner! chicken dinner.

  28. Arky
    #3013897, posted on May 16, 2019 at 7:53 pm

    Liberals should retaliate by having one of their ex- PMs die too.
    Come on Malcolm.

    He can take one for the team

  29. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bob Hawke has passed away at the age of 89.

    Good innings. Shame there’s not more like him in the ALP, to kick heads, down yards of piss and keep out the nutters which now seem to’ve taken over.

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bob Hawke dies aged 89

    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    @gregbrown_TheOz
    8 minutes ago May 16, 2019
    No Comments

    Former Labor prime minister Bob Hawke has died, aged 89.

    His wife, Blance Blanche d’Alpuget, this evening announced the passing of Labor’s longest serving prime minister.

    “Today we lost Bob Hawke, a great Australian – many would say the greatest Australian of the post-war era,” Ms d’Alpuget said in a statement.

    “He died peacefully at home at the age of 89 years.

    Breaking.

  31. calli

    That made me laugh…very, very loudly. And the Beloved too.

    Thanks Arky.

  32. Old Lefty

    Shorten isn’t Hawke’s bootlace.

  33. Mark A

    Arky
    #3013897, posted on May 16, 2019 at 7:53 pm

    Liberals should retaliate by having one of their ex- PMs die too.
    Come on Malcolm.

    LOL good one Arky.

  34. BrettW

    Gab,
    Somebody should check that letter as might be a forgery.

  35. Eyrie

    “Liberals should retaliate by having one of their ex- PMs die too.
    Come on Malcolm.”
    I can think of others.

  36. John64

    Hawkie’s passing announced on Sky while Blot was having a whiskey with Athol Guy. They continued in a respectful and appropriate manner. Pure class.

  37. JMH

    Fancy buggering off like that not knowing the election results. That’s a bummer.

  38. Eyrie

    Besides Malcolm wasn’t a Liberal PM.

  39. Chris

    I wonder if Hawke voted early?
    He was a very charismatic guy. I remember seeing him at a Labour fundraiser folkdance at Freo oval, in about 1979.

  40. Shorten isn’t Hawke’s bootlace.

    He would qualify as his toilet paper

  41. John64

    After Gough left this mortal coil, TheirABC TV presenters famously wore black the following day.

    Will Hawkie be similarly honoured?

  42. Arky

    Hawke could win a fifth election for Labor with this move.
    Genius.

  43. Beachcomber

    Watching Shorten on the ABC. He is a truly nasty piece of work. Surely he is un-electable. Even current-day Australia couldn’t be that stupid could it?

  44. Eyrie

    Never could bring myself to vote for the prick. Big Government, Big Business, Big Unions. Voted informal as I couldn’t stand the Libs at the time either.

  45. Arky

    Of course, if Shorten had the guts and foresight to pull the same thing, Labor would be in for sure.

  46. Farmer Gez

    My old man met Bob at a pre election function in the town.
    Dad spotted that Bob was being bored to death by the local doctor, so Dad mentioned one of Bob’s horses that was running on the weekend.
    Dad said Bob lit up like a Christmas tree and rushed around the table and sat next to Dad and talked horses for the next hour.
    The old man said he would never vote Labor but Hawke was a good bloke and great company.

  47. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Blanche d’Alpuget’s eulogy being read out for Bob Hawke on Sky right now.
    Apparently he paved the way for a recession-free future.

    Umm. what about Keating’s ‘the recession we had to have’?
    Hairy having apoplexy about that omission right now.

    Sympathy vote coming up? or will people just think good he’s not around to see the mess Saturday?

  48. The Countess

    Picked up our AC HTV cards and corflutes yesterday. Spent today on the phone trying to get more volunteers to help out at the local school. Three possibly 4 said yes. It’s not much but I want to be able to look my future grandchildren in the eye and say that we tried.

  49. Entropy

    Wall to wall hageographies for the next two days will turn it into a walk over for shorten. He must have a deal with the devil

  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Greens candidate Jason Ball lashed over ‘double standards’

    Exclusive
    Elias Visontay
    Reporter
    @EliasVisontay
    An hour ago May 16, 2019

    An embattled Melbourne Greens candidate has been accused of double standards for vocally criticising political donations from big banks despite his prominent career as a speaker for hire addressing corporate banking functions for a $4,000 speaking fee.

    Jason Ball, the Greens candidate for Higgins, was the 2017 Victorian Young Australian of the Year, and is listed on the website Celebrity Speakers as a “passionate community advocate” who is “highly regarded for his work in support of LGBTI equality and mental health”.

    It also states he is “highly sought after as a speaker in the corporate world” and has been hired by “numerous ASX Top 100 companies including SEEK, NAB, ANZ and Macquarie Group”.

    PwC has also provided a testimonial for Mr Ball’s speaking abilities on the Celebrity Speakers website, where he is listed for hire for a $4,000 fee plus travel expenses.

    However in a Greens campaign video, Mr Ball said federal politicians had “degraded the dignity of the office they’re supposed to serve” by taking donations from “big banks” and “fossil fuel companies, property developers and pokies barons” who “fund their election campaigns”.

    Labor Senator Penny Wong told The Australian “the Greens say one thing and do another”.

    “They’ve campaigned on keeping corporate money out of politics but their star candidate Jason Ball uses his profile to profit by speaking at events for big firms. You can’t count on the Greens to stand up for what they say they believe in.” she said.

    Mr Ball defended his for-hire private speaking career, and denied that his history speaking at banks and corporate events was in conflict with the values of the Greens party.

    From the Oz. How many times do the fvcking Greens have to be exposed as the hypocrites they are?

  51. areff

    Sympathy vote coming up?

    Sensible to put a Hawke quote about getting labour and capital working together — the dominant early theme of the TV obits — in counterpoint to an example of Shorten’s class war shrieking. Wonder if the Libs have the wit to package it that way.

  52. Old Lefty

    It would be sheer hypocrisy for the ABC to celebrate Hawke, John64. Remember Jane Singleton promoting Pilger’s conspiracy theories that Hawke was a fascist CIA plant who sold out to capitalism?

  53. Bob Hawke has passed away at the age of 89.

    Oh. Fucking. Hell.
    The sympathy vote will be massive on Saturday.
    Did anyone see a CFMEU thug leaving his bedside shortly before he died?

    Hawke wouldn’t get pre-selected for today’s Labor Party. He’d be too far right for the Libs too.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wall to wall hageographies for the next two days will turn it into a walk over for shorten

    I’m dreading his victory speech.

  55. Eyrie

    “Sensible to put a Hawke quote about getting labour and capital working together ”
    yeah, just fvckin great. Big government, Big business, Big Unions – aka fascism.

  56. Cassie of Sydney

    Vale Bob Hawke….a larrakin…a character. Sadly we’ll never see his type again. My mother went to a function about six years ago and Hawke was there…she watched him work the room….talking and laughing with people. He could relate to both the ordinary and the important. He had a tremendous gift with people…here’s Hawke at his classic best……

    https://youtu.be/EYQ6pEipppQ

  57. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That made me laugh…very, very loudly. And the Beloved too.
    Thanks Arky.

    Belly laughs here too, Calli.

    All those old clips look as though they are from some very dated movie now.

    All the nauseating calls now coming in from the left busy profiling themselves and Labor.
    Best to get it over with today and tomorrow and not part of Saturday’s game.

  58. Cassie of Sydney

    “The sympathy vote will be massive on Saturday.”

    Nah….the young don’t know him and us older types remember Keating and the “recession we had to have”. There’s no sympathy.

  59. Done Deal

    Vale to Bob. The exception that proved the rule. The wrong one carked it…. which-ever other ex- labor PM that brings to mind.

    He probably couldn’t stand to see his best work about to be undone.

    Be interesting to see if Shortarse & crew are crass enough to try and screw a few votes out of it.

  60. Old Lefty

    Anyone noticed McManus and the ACTU backing the Greens in key Melbourne seats? By rights, that should trigger expulsion from the ALP. We’ll see.

  61. Cassie of Sydney

    I watched Cory on Bolt tonight….I found him a bit flat? Did anyone else?

  62. Eyrie

    “she watched him work the room….talking and laughing with people. ”
    You mean like that sleazebag, Bill Clinton? Hawke was a similar scumbag.

  63. Leigh Lowe

    Beachcomber

    #3013917, posted on May 16, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    Watching Shorten on the ABC. He is a truly nasty piece of work.

    He is an amalgam of many characters …
    The wit of Eric Olthwaite.
    The soaring oratory of Stephen Hawking’s voice synthesizer.
    The intelligence of Forrest Gump
    The graceful running style of a Womble.
    The bosom of Pamela Anderson.

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Labour movement’s greatest son’

    Bill Shorten said Mr Hawke was the labour movement’s greatest son.

    “The Australian people loved Bob Hawke because they knew Bob loved them, this was true to the very end,” the Opposition Leader said.

    “With his passing, the labour movement salutes our greatest son, the Labor Party gives thanks for the life of our longest-serving prime minister and Australians everywhere remember and honour a man who gave so much to the country and people he cared for so deeply.

    “The most powerful and enduring tributes to Bob Hawke are not words or pictures, they are found all around us. World-class universities, where places are earned on merit not purchased by privilege.

    “A modern, outward-looking, competitive economy, built around the principle that working and middle class people must be fairly rewarded for their efforts.

    “Australia at home in Asia, a voice heard and respected in the councils of the world.

    “Every Australian carries a monument to Bob Hawke with them, their Medicare card. A green-and-gold promise that the health of any one of us, matters to all of us.”

    Cue Bill Shorten.

  65. Nick

    I watched Cory on Bolt tonight….I found him a bit flat? Did anyone else?

    I’m not sure he’s done much to be happy about

  66. Roger

    Blanche d’Alpuget’s eulogy [for Hawke] being read out for Bob Hawke on Sky right now.

    Rather than Hazel’s, which most Australians of a certain age would be thinking of right now.

    I do hope he reconciled with is Creator.

  67. John64

    Never could bring myself to vote for the prick.

    Voted for Hawkie in ‘87; the only time I’ve voted for the Liars in my life.

    That was the “Joh for Canberra” election and the Libs were an absolute rabble.

    Hawke at the time seemed to be doing a good job and was a plausible option for the younger John64.

  68. Arky

    “The Australian people loved Bob Hawke because they knew Bob loved them, this was true to the very end,” the Opposition Leader said.

    ..
    Bob Hawke loved Bob Hawke.

  69. Atoms for Peace

    Hawke must surely have been ashamed of the ” Madge; you’re soaking in it!” soft handed suits who claim to have Labor roots.

  70. Arky

    When the people closest to you are alcoholics and heroin addicts, chances are good you are a turd.

  71. Leigh Lowe

    John64

    #3013915, posted on May 16, 2019 at 8:02 pm

    After Gough left this mortal coil, TheirABC TV presenters famously wore black the following day.

    Will Hawkie be similarly honoured?

    Don’t be silly.
    They will wear white bath robes, of course.

  72. Empire 5:5

    Bob Hawke has passed away at the age of 89.

    48 hours before polls close. What a coincidence.

  73. Fleeced

    “The Australian people loved Bob Hawke because they knew Bob loved them”

    LOL. Nah – but he wasn’t sanctimonious. Egotistical, sure – but not smarmy. An actual Hawke quote: “Do you know why I have credibility? Because I don’t exude morality.”

  74. Leigh Lowe

    Empire 5:5

    #3013952, posted on May 16, 2019 at 8:37 pm

    Bob Hawke has passed away at the age of 89.

    48 hours before polls close. What a coincidence

    I hope he didn’t do a pre-poll vote.
    Can’t have dead people voting.
    No, wait …

  75. Empire 5:5

    When the people closest to you are alcoholics and heroin addicts, chances are good you are a turd.

    Sandringham Hospital.

  76. Eyrie

    Well the day had a better ending.

  77. Atoms for Peace

    Menzies you self aggrandizing ALP toe rags.

  78. Arky

    I’m proud to say my missus endures, stone cold sober, life with me.

  79. Neil

    Govt debt went from 6% to 18% of GDP under Hawke/Keating and we lost our AAA credit rating. I cannot think of a single good thing that came out of that govt. Superannuation which they brought in is not working. People are cashing in their Super buying homes they cannot normally afford and spending what is left on holidays and then going on the Pension

  80. Leigh Lowe

    Hawke must surely have been ashamed of the ” Madge; you’re soaking in it!” soft handed suits who claim to have Labor roots.

    Really.
    The only manual labour he did was frequent masturbation.

  81. Entropy

    Empire 5:5
    #3013952, posted on May 16, 2019 at 8:37 pm
    Bob Hawke has passed away at the age of 89.

    48 hours before polls close. What a coincidence

    He might have been dead for weeks! Like weekend at Bernie’s, but we will be the butt of the joke. At least he will still get to vote in fine old labor tradition, copied from the yanks like everything else the left pretend to hate,

  82. John64

    Don’t be silly. They will wear white bath robes, of course.

    LOL.

    But the gold standard on wearing white bath robes was set by Andrew Peacock and Shirley MacLaine on The Norman Gunston Show. Unsurpassable.

  83. Cassie of Sydney

    “Nick
    #3013941, posted on May 16, 2019 at 8:27 pm
    I watched Cory on Bolt tonight….I found him a bit flat? Did anyone else?

    I’m not sure he’s done much to be happy about”

    Exactly.

  84. Caveman

    Abbott just hit the sky crew between the eyes with his Hawke eulogy.

  85. Caveman

    Abbott just told it straight about Hawke and his achievement without the gloss. I think it was meant to just keep the tears down over next few days.
    Someone might have a copy of it they could post.

  86. Fleeced

    I will say, wall-to-wall coverage of the Hawke years just as the “media blackout” begins is bloody convenient for the ALP. Though Libs could turn that into a plus if they make the contrast between Hawkey and Shorten clear.

  87. Caveman

    Libs could turn that into a plus if they make the contrast between Hawkey and Shorten clear.
    Thats basically what Abbotts done.

  88. DtjW

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3013937, posted on May 16, 2019 at 8:21 pm

    Cassie – Yes.
    I don’t think I would have much chance of convincing some of my family & friends to “Vote 1” in column M based on that TV interview. He looked, and acted, very tired unfortunately.

  89. Fleeced

    I will say, that was a good statement, and highlighted that his micro-reform agenda went against the Labour grain.

  90. calli

    The Australian people loved Bob Hawke because they knew Bob loved them”

    One Silly Old Bugger didn’t love him.

    I suspect there were many…many more.

  91. Fleeced

    If Shorten had half the charisma of Hawke, he’d have won in 2016. And if the ALP followed half of the micro-reform policies, they’d have my vote.

    Neither party seems to believe in “economic rationalism” anymore. Remember that term? It was popular in the 80s.

  92. Tel

    And only a day after he wrote an open letter praising Shorten.

    He won’t do that again.

  93. Slayer of Memes

    “Liberals should retaliate by having one of their ex- PMs die too.

    Come on Malcolm.”

    Both of them…. double bounce.

  94. Spider

    Say what you like about Hawkes politics but just watching a retrospective and it really rams home how stage managed and inauthentic the whole political process has become. Watching their every word. Consulting focus groups. Parroting talking points ad nauseam. Endlessly Apologising. The world and Australia is a different place indeed.

  95. Fleeced

    Say what you like about Hawkes politics but just watching a retrospective and it really rams home how stage managed and inauthentic the whole political process has become. Watching their every word. Consulting focus groups. Parroting talking points ad nauseam. Endlessly Apologising. The world and Australia is a different place indeed.

    I’m quoting your whole comment because I agree with it all. I mean, we know politicians are dishonest – Hawkey was no exception – but the current lot are inauthentic. I know they sound like the same thing, but they’re not, somehow.

  96. John64

    ScoMo speaks about Hawke and nails it.

  97. One Silly Old Bugger didn’t love him.
    I suspect there were many…many more.

    I loathed the turd.

  98. Fleeced

    ScoMo speaks about Hawke and nails it.

    Link? I thought Abbott’s statement was good.

  99. twostix

    Mordern Australia literally can’t produce another character like Hawke.

    That generation and previous generations were full of characters like him, just different I remember my grandparents friends, all so lively and sharp differences in their personalities.

    Now it’s wall to wall legions of conformist soy poisoned bugmen.

  100. John64

    “Liberals should retaliate by having one of their ex- PMs die too. Come on Malcolm.”

    Both of them…. double bounce.

    There’s three of them. Name names.

  101. Spider

    Fleeced

    Agreed. They try to fake sincerity but fail miserably. You can see it in their eyes.

  102. twostix

    Where has the union and ALP spend been?

    In my electorate.

    Every single youtube video and website is bordered by low effort ‘scomo cut x’ ads.

    We’re deciding this election, thanks for playing Australia but you need not bother turning up.

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I loathed the turd.

    That makes two of us.

  104. Caveman

    Hawkes passing has taken Tits clown show today off the front page today. Hawkeys had the last laugh as now Tits cant try to be like him, Tits is Goughs ghost.

  105. mh

    Someone may want to post the tragic Shorten beer skolling video.

  106. Robber Baron

    John Howard’s immediate untimely (timely) death will counter part of the Hawke death.

    A Turnbull and Howard “Arkancide” should do the trick for a big swing to the coalition.

    Make it so.

  107. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Don’t ask me how I know, but Bob Hawke used to be quite partial to Havana cigars. It didn’t suit his image, so there was a ban on him being photographed, smoking one.

  108. DtjW

    Caveman – it could be a relief to the “Tits Clown Show”. Focus diverted.

  109. Slayer of Memes

    There’s three of them. Name names.

    Fraser
    Turnbull

    …who’s the third Malcolm you refer to John?

  110. Leigh Lowe

    Slayer of Memes

    #3014019, posted on May 16, 2019 at 9:31 pm

    There’s three of them. Name names.

    Fraser
    Turnbull

    …who’s the third Malcolm you refer to John?

    Malcolm Pyne.
    Take him.

  111. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There’s three of them. Name names.

    Fraser

    I thought he’d been dead since March 2015?

  112. John64

    …who’s the third Malcolm you refer to John?

    Thought you meant two of the Libs ex-PMs

  113. Robber Baron

    I’m watching The Front Bar. Seven have a fat blonde chick presenting the weather. Diversity has gone too far. Only hot thin chicks should present the weather.

  114. Slayer of Memes

    Thought you meant two of the Libs ex-PMs

    John, yes.

    Two lib ex-PMs named Malcolm…

  115. Slayer of Memes

    Fraser

    I thought he’d been dead since March 2015?

    Dig him up and hang him again

  116. Armadillo

    Sportsbet paid out the Labor Government win last night. They then pretty much re-opened the market for those who wanted to “have another crack” at it. Tells me that they weren’t holding enough money in the bag. These guys are having problems “building a book” out of it.

    They are still offering the ALP @ $1.18, and the LNP @ $4.75 (in from $5.75).

    The funniest market they have is “Australia’s Next Opposition Leader”. They have Barnaby Joyce at 26/1.
    WTF? It should be a million to one. Even if the LNP were to win, it’s not as if he could ever be the Prime Minister.

    Meh, some doofus might throw $50 on him.

  117. Brian of Moorabbin

    My new election day T-shirt arrived in the mail today.

    Looking forward to wearing it to the polling booth on Saturday and watching the reactions…

  118. John64

    Two lib ex-PMs

    There’s three – John, Tony and Malcolm…….

  119. Armadillo

    When the LNP lose, I seriously doubt Barnaby is going to switch and become a Liberal and lead the party out of the darkness.

  120. Tel

    Dig him up and hang him again…

    No need for that … make a Facebook announcement! Not like anyone will check the details before passing it on to their friends.

    Hey, worked for Roger Moore.

  121. Caveman

    TAB have LNP at $5.50

  122. EvilElvis

    They also threw in some couture T-shirts

    Bit of fashion advice required, Lizzie. Got my kit last night along with an XXL shirt which fell short of the requested ‘circus tent’ size. Now, do I roll with it and potentially gain an edge with the lefties by channelling Shortens moobs? Do I embrace it, shave my chest and paint the AC logo on myself and do the full Hulk rip off the shirt and pick up the nearest green while screaming “Hulk smash!”? Or conversely tape up, wait for the inevitable rain and try and gain wet t-shirt leverage for the lesso/tranny crowd?

  123. Old School Conservative

    Nicholas Reece thinks a lot of swinging voters are seriously expecting a public holiday tomorrow.
    How stupid does Reece think the viewers are?
    Let alone the unintended joke of celebrating Hawke’s death with a holiday instead of the assumed day of sorrow.

    Why PM doesn’t take down his hyperbole I don’t know.

  124. Armadillo

    TAB have LNP at $5.50

    For a reason. Provided Bill doesn’t fuck a donkey on live television between now and Saturday, he’s your new Prime Minister.

  125. Old School Conservative

    Caveman, one betting company has already paid out the bets on a Labor win.

  126. Armadillo

    How stupid does Reece think the viewers are?

    He’s pretty spot on.

  127. Caveman

    one betting company has already paid out the bets

    Like the other bet company that paid out on Hillary.

  128. Armadillo

    You should be able to get 101/1 the LNP after the media finish tongue bathing Bob and the glorious Labor Party.

  129. Tel

    How stupid does Reece think the viewers are?

    He measured is based on himself.

    He’s pretty spot on.

    Sadly, yes.

  130. Peter Castieau

    Day 19 of the campaign and day 15 of pre-poll.

    John confirmed he has completed his areas of the Perth CBD. This is just fantastic. Thank you John.

    On the way to pre-poll I was faced with this tree removal. That’s a very expensive tree!

    The car of the day was already in the parking lot. The latest BMW320d sedan. Seriously nothing else even came close to this today.

    Immediately walking onto the booth I was faced with this woman from GetUp, check out the hair. Without being too unkind this is not a HTV magnet. The view from the otherside was much worse.

    Tyler is always there in the morning and thats Ben the blue team booth captain on the right. The rain picked up so out came the umbrellas. Requires a bit of dexterity holding an umbrella, HTV’s and then managing to hand one out!

    If you zoom up on this shot of the three amigos coreflute I promise you, that is us sweating not the rain!

    I mentioned a few days ago that there was possibly an altercation at the Wanneroo pre-poll between Pauline Hanson and Anne Aly. This photo is not conclusive but it is a bit animated.

    It started to get very cold so on with the jacket and another bigger size t-shirt over the top. These were the number plates of the election. The puppy dog of the election is this 12 week old boxer named Harper. Gorgeous!

    Since 12.00 pm today this booth has had a queue pouring out the front door. Its taking people 15-30 minutes to get through.

    I left when the queue got ridiculous at 4.00pm. There reaches a point when there are more volunteers than voters and the likely wait would have blown out to 40 mins or more.

    I drove to the Landsdale booth to see the location but it didn’t really teach me anything so I’ll get there for 7.30am on polling day and make decisions from there.

    Lee and Stephen are helping me out at pre-poll tomorrow. It will be huge and this sort of presence on this booth in this safe Liberal held seat ought to get us a big return.

    I handed out 180 HTV’s and flyers to people at the Joondalup booth today. At least 3 lots of people were very vocal walking past that they were definately going to vote for us. No prompting.

    Dan has just texted me and he is picking up a box of flyers for polling day from my front wall. Thanks Dan.

    Pam had a big day venturing into the Southwest and to be honest I wouldn’t have a clue what Jonathan is doing but rest assured we are working our butts off and we are winning. Lets do this tomorrow and Saturday and who knows what might happen?

    Bob Hawke has just died and that will suck the oxygen out of everything for the next 24 hours.

  131. Infidel Tiger

    I do hope he reconciled with is Creator

    No chance.

    Bill Hayden has.

  132. EvilElvis

    FMD. BS is stammering and bumbling in a soft, ABC interview.

  133. Armadillo

    Like the other bet company that paid out on Hillary.

    The Irish dudes? No wonder people make jokes about the Irish. They aren’t exactly helping themselves.

  134. Peter Castieau

    Shorten does look weak in his interview with Lee Sales.

    He doesn’t win.

  135. Nick

    I suspect the election will be closer than we think.
    The TPP vote is meaningless if it maintains the status quo in electorates. It’s the marginal seats that will be important.

  136. mh

    Fake tears for Bob will be a fitting tribute.

  137. Armadillo

    Bob Hawke has just died and that will suck the oxygen out of everything for the next 24 hours.

    An eternity in Bobs case.

  138. Caveman

    Shorten does look weak in his interview with Lee Sales.

    That letter Hawke wrote for Tits means nothing now. Tits backed the wrong ghost.

  139. Armadillo

    I wonder if Keating will take on the undertakers job? He seems somewhat suited. In fact, he would probably relish it.

    Don’t be surprised if he’s in the front row at the funeral. Smirking.

  140. Peter

    Bob of course had a couple of things in common with John F Kennedy. Both of them loved their countries, and neither of them would find a place in their respective parties these days.

  141. Fleeced

    I suspect the election will be closer than we think.
    The TPP vote is meaningless if it maintains the status quo in electorates. It’s the marginal seats that will be important.

    Yep, it comes down to Queensland.

    LNP will gain seats in NSW (at least two: Lyndsay and Wentworth), and ALP will pick up two elsewhere (Victoria and WA). Note that there are now 151 seats, so they need 76 to win.

    Anyway, I think it will mostly break even outside of Queensland, so Qld decides. Polls suggest a swing against LNP there (and that could cost them), but the first preference vote for ALP is shockingly low in these same polls – lower than in previous years. People clearly don’t want to vote for them.

  142. Pete of Perth

    What if he fucked a dead donkey?

  143. Armadillo

    and neither of them would find a place in their respective parties these days

    Fair comment. Mark Latham is considered “right wing” these days. Wow.

  144. Nick

    Anyway, I think it will mostly break even outside of Queensland, so Qld decides. Polls suggest a swing against LNP there (and that could cost them), but the first preference vote for ALP is shockingly low in these same polls – lower than in previous years. People clearly don’t want to vote for them.

    Palmer preferences may be the key here, Fleeced.

  145. Armadillo

    What if he fucked a dead donkey?

    Meh. If he rips out its still beating heart and eats it, then the media pundits will probably have to describe the election as “too close to call”. He will probably still fall over the line.

  146. John64

    Fair comment. Mark Latham is considered “right wing” these days. Wow

    Hawke wouldn’t get preselected for the ALP in 2019.

    “Poor fella my country.”

  147. mh

    Bill Shorten has spoken about Hawke’s final moments

    “I haven’t heard what final words were said, but let me say I support what he said.

    My view is what the former prime minister’s view is.”

  148. Caveman

    Bill Shorten has spoken about Hawke’s final moments

    Hawke told Tits to front up to the NPC as is tradition.

  149. Armadillo

    According to Sportsbet, LNP now @ $5.75, ALP @ $1.14.

    I’d suggest it will settle to around $1.04 by morning. They won’t want anymore of it. The LNP will blow. The only money interest now is in the Senate and the marginal HOR seats. Still a few quid to be made.

  150. mh

    That’s a good idea

    Florida Radio Stations to Air Hourly Snippets of Donald Trump’s Speeches Until 2020 Election

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/05/15/florida-radio-stations-air-hourly-snippets-donald-trumps-speeches-2020-election/

  151. Infidel Tiger

    Why would Hawke’s death help Shorten?

    If anything it is a reminder that the ALP of yore (your father’s Labor Party) is dead and buried.

    Pity he didn’t die three weeks ago. 25% of the country has voted.

  152. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bit of fashion advice required, Lizzie. Got my kit last night along with an XXL shirt which fell short of the requested ‘circus tent’ size. Now, do I roll with it and potentially gain an edge with the lefties by channelling Shortens moobs? Do I embrace it, shave my chest and paint the AC logo on myself and do the full Hulk rip off the shirt and pick up the nearest green while screaming “Hulk smash!”? Or conversely tape up, wait for the inevitable rain and try and gain wet t-shirt leverage for the lesso/tranny crowd?

    Well, it’s the Chinese century and I haven’t checked but I’ll bet now the t-shirts are not Aussie-made. John, our guy in charge, judged us both as large, and I might have been offended except I know about Chinese-sizing. An L will fit nicely over my other clothes. You, EvilElvis, simply have to pretend it is a corset. Bust out all over in it with only a bit of judicious taping. You’ll be the only conservative in the village. A big hit. Take your brolly though. Too much shrinkage is not good for any man. 🙂

  153. Armadillo

    The real story of this election is likely to be the rise of the minor parties and Independants.

    Labor will win, and the LP are about to experience an absolute blood bath. The Nationals will cop a clip under the ear. The Greens will lose some support to a more left leaning ALP.

    What annoys me most is that the LNP allowed themselves to be infiltrated by the left. Fucking idiots. Now half the LP are actively campaigning for the ALP. The enemy is already inside the gates.

  154. Armadillo

    This bloke might just be taking the piss. He might be the greatest troll of all time.

    Date posted noted. April 1.

  155. JC

    Custard

    Explain your prediction why you don’t think he will win.

  156. mh

    Latest IPSOS poll also has situation tightening 51/49

    Most pollsters showing Coalition primary vote at 39 percent.

  157. Armadillo

    Most pollsters showing Coalition primary vote at 39 percent.

    Anything without a 4 in front of is nearly enough.

  158. mh

    Point is Dillo is there any more tightening to come?

    I want it even tighter. Ooh err..

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    One of Irish ODI cricketers’ first names is Barry.

    In this day and age. That is brilliant stuff. More Barrys and less Jordyns, Jaxxyns and Kobyies.

    Encouraging for the future.

  160. max

    Wasn’t Blanche some kind of self-ordained priestess in a cult ?

    A bit of a worry that Bob fell for that shit as well.

    Hazel puts it all in a different light.

  161. Knuckle Dragger

    Look,

    This joke’s gone far enough now. Bob Hawke’s dead. Yeah yeah, I get it.

    I suppose Doris Day’s in the ground too. Some people just take the joke too far.

  162. Armadillo

    Custard, what’s your prediction for your vote % in the election? Base it on what your gut feeling is after being on the campaign trail and manning booths. Rough guess.

    What’s the expectation?

  163. JC

    They don’t fuck around down there in Alabama.

    Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey signed into law the most restrictive antiabortion measure in the country, effectively outlawing the procedure in an effort to prod the U.S. Supreme Court to reconsider a woman’s right to terminate a pregnancy.

    The measure is almost certain to face court challenges and likely will be struck down by lower courts, according to legal observers.

    The law makes it a felony for doctors to perform an abortion at any point during pregnancy, punishable by up to 99 years in prison. Doctors who attempt to perform an abortion could face up to 10 years in prison. Women who have the procedure wouldn’t be criminally liable.

    In a statement after the Alabama Senate passed the bill Tuesday night, Leana Wen, president of Planned Parenthood Action Fund, said, “We will do whatever it takes to stop this dangerous bill so that patients can continue to access the care they need.”

    Alexa Kolbi-Molinas, senior staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union’s Reproductive Freedom Project, said if the governor signed “this dangerous bill into law, we will see you in court.”

    Ms. Ivey, a Republican, conceded in signing the law Wednesday that “we can all recognize that, at least for the short term, this bill may…be unenforceable.” But, she added, “the sponsors of this bill believe that it is time, once again, for the U.S. Supreme Court to revisit this important matter.”

    “This legislation stands as a powerful testament to Alabamians’ deeply held belief that every life is precious and that every life is a sacred gift from God,” Ms. Ivey said in her statement.

    The bill makes one exception, allowing an abortion when a mother has a “serious health risk.” Though state lawmakers had considered an amendment that would have added exceptions in the case of rape or incest, they ended up stripping that provision out of the bill.

    The Republican-led Senate approved the measure Tuesday 25-6 after lengthy debate and a filibuster by Democrats. It passed the GOP-led state House of Representatives 74-3 last month.

    Sounds like there aren’t that many D’rats in the state house.

  164. Bruce in WA

    Hawke lost me when he tossed Hazel aside like a used condom for the harlot d’Alpuget. Hazel deserved so much better than that.

    He may have been a good PM, but he was a prick of a man!

  165. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I want it even tighter’

    PHRASING.

    (h/t Archer)

  166. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He may have been a good PM, but he was a prick of a man!

    Well said. He treated Hazel like shit.

  167. mh

    Australians most likely don’t know the impact of Labor’s changes. If you own managed funds your assessable income will be higher. Investors may have forgotten that their fund manager is buying and selling shares on their behalf, and the cgt discount will be halved to 25 percent. That’s just one thing off the top of my head. Labor are taking your money and giving it to their mates.

  168. Armadillo

    Hawke lost me when he tossed Hazel aside like a used condom for the harlot d’Alpuget.

    I can’t think of too many Labor politicians that haven’t ditched their missus. Kevin was an exception. No explaination necessary.

  169. C.L.

    I can’t think of too many Labor politicians that haven’t ditched their missus.

    Unlike, say, Gorton, Snedden, Sinclair, Peacock or Joyce, right?

  170. JC

    mh

    Stop the hallucinations. The rise in the CGT under the Liars is purely theoretical. There won’t be any gains. There will only be capital losses, which you will be able to use once they are thrown out of office. 🙂

  171. Armadillo

    You forgot Hewson, CL.

  172. C.L.

    This is real:

    Extraordinary moment police FINE pedestrian £90 for disorderly behaviour after he tries to cover his face from facial recognition camera on the streets of London.

    Police fined a pedestrian £90 for disorderly behaviour after he tried to cover his face when he saw a controversial facial recognition camera on a street in London.

    Officers set up the camera on a van in Romford, East London, which then cross-checked photos of faces of passers-by against a database of wanted criminals.

    But one man was unimpressed about being filmed and covered his face with his hat and jacket, before being stopped by officers who took his picture anyway.

    After being pulled aside, the man told police: ‘If I want to cover me face, I’ll cover me face. Don’t push me over when I’m walking down the street.’

    Video at story link.
    WWII: Hitler won.

  173. Armadillo

    Do you have a list for the Labor side?

  174. mh

    JC, I’m just trying to put the scare out there coz I want things even tighter.

    Don’t give Shorten the idea of stopping the use of capital losses.

  175. Knuckle Dragger

    No wonder they can’t recruit coppers any more in England.

    You’d be hard pressed looking at yourself in the mirror after a hard day of clocking people who put hats over their faces, as well as checking people’s thinking and arresting people for Facebook commentary.

    Shouldn’t be able to call themselves men, let alone policemen.

    As dear old Adolf said, ‘England is a nation of shopkeepers’.

    They weren’t in 1940. They are now.

  176. Armadillo

    The list of politicians that have remained married to their spouses might be an easier task.

    I’m detecting a pattern here.

  177. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    The Dems are getting another beauty to join their group. Bill de Blasio of NYC, considered the worst mayor in the U.S., will supposedly be making an announcement for president today. He is a JOKE, but if you like high taxes & crime, he’s your man. NYC HATES HIM!

  178. Armadillo

    Juliar is in the clear. She’s never been married. Just endlessly bed hopping. That doesn’t count.

  179. I can’t think of too many Labor politicians that haven’t ditched their missus.
    Unlike, say, Gorton, Snedden, Sinclair, Peacock or Joyce, right?

    To be fair to Andrew Peacock, she left him.

  180. JC

    JC, I’m just trying to put the scare out there coz I want things even tighter.

    Dude, there will be no such thing as gains under Tits. It’s red ink all the way.

    Don’t give Shorten the idea of stopping the use of capital losses.

    I don’t recall that one, but I’m sure they are aware their policies are going to red in the country, so they’re planning for that ahead of time- to make sure no one is able to use those losses. 🙂

  181. Knuckle Dragger

    Love the other bit in that article C.L.

    Since they started using the ‘technology’, it has mismatched 96% of people with actual crooks over three years.

    To say this state of affairs is shit is an insult to shit.

  182. max

    Compare Hazel with Barnaby’s body-builder or Susan Peacock or Reverend Blanche or Lucy Turnbull.

    She was a great First Lady.

  183. None

    Yay Peter! Hope it’s chicken tikka or saag paneer for tea for you tonight.

  184. mh

    JC, with your US investments rising, the Aussie dollar falling, and Australian assets about to crash under Shorten, I think you’ll be living like a king.

  185. min

    I spent a weekend at the Ritz Carlton in Elizabeth Bay with Bob Hawke. He was living there with Hazel when they were building the house and as he was still PM , caucus meetings went on in the public lounge. I was there with 100 Psychologists and Psychiatrist participating in a workshop on a new therapy for PTSD.
    The third group there was Guns and Roses and their groupies . I always though what a strange combination but it made for a crowded, noisy weekend .
    For anyone who watches Silent Witness ,we were attending our first training for EMDR , the treatment given to the main actress who is suffering from trauma in the latest episodes.
    The millennial won’t know anything about him and that may save the LNP

  186. Bruce in WA

    Have been a fan of Merrell hiking/walking shoes for about the last 10 years. They are supremely comfortable for my weird feet (wide; very high; small size) but today I got an email from them advertising … vegan shoes!

    Made with completely vegan materials, this hiker provides out of the box comfort for days spent on the trail.

    I think I may be looking more closely at New Balance from now on …

  187. JC

    Mh

    I have assets here too. I’ve been thinking about this. If the Aussie falls badly, the assets I have here will be underwater so it’s not as clear cut. I own real estate and my living expenses are mainly covered by aussie receipts.

    I also value my net worth in US Dollars, which means I lose out because of the Aussie components I blame my wife, because I told her I wanted to sell up for years and get the hell out of Dodge, but she wouldn’t.

  188. You’d be hard pressed looking at yourself in the mirror after a hard day of clocking people who put hats over their faces, as well as checking people’s thinking and arresting people for Facebook commentary.
    Shouldn’t be able to call themselves men, let alone policemen.

    Been happening more & more of late.
    Qld Plod are right up there with the alt-policing program.

    They’re at about the point where I’d label the Qld Police ID to be a Badge of Dishonour.

  189. JC

    She was a great First Lady.

    Max, there’s no such thing as a first lady in Australia. It’s a stupid, made up American term for the spouse of the president.

  190. min
    #3014167, posted on May 16, 2019 at 11:47 pm
    I spent a weekend at the Ritz Carlton in Elizabeth Bay with Bob Hawke.

    Min, you win some sort of prize for the salacious headline.
    Alas the story did not end in the manner with which the beginning promised.

  191. mh

    JC, things may be clearer in 48 hours.

    If Labor have a big night you know the outlook is grim.

  192. Bruce in WA

    Max, there’s no such thing as a first lady in Australia. It’s a stupid, made up American term for the spouse of the president.

    While I agree totally JC, how come we blithely accept “First Peoples” or “First Nation”? It’s BS; they weren’t.

  193. mh

    Or Welcome to Country by part Europeans with beer guts.

  194. Armadillo

    Update: ALP @ $1.08 and LNP $6.00.

    Sportsbet will scale down after midnight. One more day left to get some money in the bag. Be warned, it’s the dreamer Conservatives money they will be after.

  195. JC

    JC, things may be clearer in 48 hours.

    If Labor have a big night you know the outlook is grim.

    The Aussie , right now, is toying with breaking through 68 cents. Now that’s not all to do with the coming erection, because the economic noise coming out of China earlier this week was “ungood”. But some of this fall could be attributed to nervousness in the currency markets for the Aussie after the weekend.

    Imagine this fucking scenario. China really slows down putting our balance of payments out of whack and the Liars enacting all their policies at the same time. Caracas could look like a dream town. It’s not a prediction, but it may not be that far off with these fuckwits.

  196. Armadillo

    The Canberra Circus act is about to begin again. Brace yourselves.

  197. Black Ball

    Gran Torino a great movie. Tear inducing end.

  198. JC

    Hey we could actually reach our emissions goals, with the liars simply enacting all their economic policies only, while China slows. We’d hit the bottom rungs of depression here. There would be no need to do anything else with energy policy.

  199. Lazlo

    You mean the Sebel Town House min? It was where all the rock stars stayed and, I think, where Elton John married a German Sheila?

  200. JC

    Liars party slogan

    “we can reach our 50% cut in emissions by 2020 with our economic policies alone”.

  201. JC

    where Elton John married a German Sheila?

    A bloke, surely.

  202. mh

    Liberty Quote
    Caracas could look like a dream town

    — JC

  203. JC

    toying with breaking through 68 cents. Should be 69 cents…

  204. Bruce in WA

    Gran Torino a great movie. Tear inducing end.

    I just watched “Paramedic” or some such, where an 82-year-old husband had to agree to turn off his wife’s life support after a massive stroke. When he said about her not being next to him when he woke up, like she had been for so many years, that was “tear inducing”.

  205. Pedro the Ignorant

    FMD. Vegan shoes. . . .

    Blundstones and RM Williams.

    Proudly made out of dead cows for generations.

  206. Armadillo

    There would be no need to do anything else with energy policy.

    I’ve always said that putting up a Colour Bond fence was a mistake. At least you can burn the wooden palings for warmth.

  207. stackja

    When boy wants girl he should think again
    There was always lust in the fast lane of politics – but it was a private matter, writes Lisa Carty.

    When in Canberra, Chifley and another famous PM, John Curtin, both stayed at the Hotel Kurrajong, the home away from home for generations of Labor icons.

    The Kurrajong was managed by Isabelle Southwell, better known as Belle, with whom Curtin allegedly had a long affair. And at the Kurrajong, Chifley often had his supper prepared by his secretary Phyllis Donnelly, with whom he apparently had a long relationship.

    She, in fact, served him supper on the night of June 13, 1951, shortly after he phoned his wife Elizabeth in Bathurst, as was his nightly custom. Chifley, by now the opposition leader, had decided against attending a ball at Parliament House that night, instead telling colleagues he was planning to bunker down with a couple of westerns.

    It may be that he, in fact, was choosing to bunker down with Donnelly, but we will never know, because back in those days these things were not discussed.

  208. mh

    When I was searching for that Lynyrd Skynyrd YouTube clip today, a Clive Palmer ad played and it was more impressive than anything the Liberal low energy team had put out in 5 weeks.

    Palmer destroyed GetUp, made the case for coal, as well as making the case for voting for his Party all in a 30 second video.

  209. Pedro the Ignorant

    Blue Steel work boots.

    Proudly made out of (C2H3Cl)n for nearly twenty years. (and the most comfortable on the market IMO)

    Might be vegan boots if polyvinyl chloride is vegan fodder.

  210. Infidel Tiger

    Hard to believe but the Age and SMH have endorsed Shorten.

  211. Fisky

    Bill Shorten’s budget estimates are absolute garbage because no one is talking about the astronomical cost of the aged parent visa which will easily cost over $100 billion. Thanks, libertarians!

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/05/labors-elderly-parent-visas-cost-taxpayers-hundreds-billions/

    Even if we conservatively assume that the cost per visa under Labor’s policy is one quarter the figure estimated by the Productivity Commission above (i.e. around $75,000 per adult), then the cost to existing residents could easily top $100 billion in net present value terms, with a much larger number possible. The cost would also grow rapidly over time as Australia’s stock of permanent migrants increases.

  212. Armadillo

    When he said about her not being next to him when he woke up, like she had been for so many years, that was “tear inducing”.

    FMD. Have I stumbled across Sheliahs Night at the Cat? Reviewing tear jerking moments from “Chick Flicks” is rather unsettling. Nite.

  213. Lazlo

    JC The woman, Elton John’s wife, is called Renata Blauel. Late of the Sebel Town House.

  214. Steve trickler

    Judge for yourself.



  215. Armadillo

    Michael Jackson married Elvis Presley’s daughter IIRC correctly. Now, there’s a tear jerker.

  216. Fisky

    In its 2016 Migrant Intake into Australia report, the Productivity Commission (PC) estimated that the cost of the 7,000 to 9,000 parental visas issued each year are between $335 000 and $410 000 per adult in net present value terms, and warned of these visas divert scarce taxpayer funding from other government programs:

    So let’s say 1,000,000 aged parents get into the country, going by the conservative estimate of Peter MacDonald (who is a Big Australia enthusiast). We can expect to pay as much as $400 billion for this over the remainder of their lifetimes.

    All because pro-immigration ideologues thought they could hand out PR to huge numbers of Chinese and Indian students, on the dumb assumption this would have no political impact at all. Our grandchildren will be paying this off, thanks to autistic economists and their stupid models that never work.

  217. Infidel Tiger

    Dot thinks it’s great!

    He and his LDP mates might even meet a chick!

  218. JC

    Fisk

    You’re contradicting yourself, dude. First off you blame libertarians, but libertarians in Australia would fit in a mini.

    The contradiction: you use the stats given by the productivity commission.. WHICH IS, run by economists!

  219. Fisky

    Libertarians are responsible to the extent that they run interference for Big Australia, on wholly specious grounds that have no basis in reality. It is also telling that this historically expensive granny import scheme is not being criticised at all by Twitter libertarians. We are a hundred billion dollars at a bare minimum and…nothing from the IPA. They can’t oppose this monstrous program because it will get them disinvited from Left-wing dinner parties.

  220. None

    So pleased to read that Izzy Folau will take his case to the supreme court if the rugby cowards want to terminate his contract. Good.

  221. None

    You know it’s funny that all the indigenous activist never say a squeak about Labor importing millions of foreign Invaders onto their land. F****** hypocrites.

  222. Tom

    It’s way past time Mr Rabbit increases the rent in David Rowe’s shrivelled head.

  223. Robber Baron

    I just watched Wag the Dog marry Dorothy the Dinasaur on The Wiggles. What on Earth is ABC showing our kids? Diversity gone mad.

  224. Bruce of Newcastle

    And a Johannes Leak from the business section in an article about ASIC.
    Quite possibly the best caricaturist in Australia already: here’s a photo of James Shipton.

  225. 2dogs

    Soph and Greta Thunberg should have a public debate.

  226. Crossie

    It seems Michael Ramirez has gone NeverTrumper. I thought it was an occasional anti-Trump cartoon but lately all of them are. Shame, he used to be good.

  227. Crossie

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    #3014209, posted on May 17, 2019 at 1:02 am
    You know it’s funny that all the indigenous activist never say a squeak about Labor importing millions of foreign Invaders onto their land. F****** hypocrites.

    Indigenous activists are not concerned with indigenous people but with their own personal grievances. Indigenous people are simply a handy excuse to make noise and shout “Look at me”.

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