Bob Hawke RIP

Bob Hawke has died, aged 89.

Former Prime Minister Bob Hawke dies aged 89.

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134 Responses to Bob Hawke RIP

  1. Dan Dare

    “Silly old bugger”

  2. Papachango

    RIP Hawkey – probably the most recent Labor prime minister who was any good… though Keating was arguably not too bad either

    Anyway thank you Bob for your service to Australia

  3. Candy

    Just a few years ago saw him on TV at a football match skulling a beer. Elderly and probably felt queezy but he did it and people loved him for it. RIP.

  4. Leigh Lowe

    I’ve put a black armband on my white bathrobe.

  5. Rafe Champion

    Bob Hawke and Keating and a very fine cabinet including Peter Walsh modernised the nation with the ideas of the Liberal Backbench Dries that the other mad Malcolm rejected.

    Now Bill and the CFMEU are going to turn back the clock if they get the chance. Keating in his dotage appears to be on board, I wonder what he would have thought about it during his best days as Treasurer before we went silly in the top job.

  6. None

    I can’t really comment on Hawke as Prime Minister (I’m not a fan of corporatism for a start) but the way he treated Hazel was unforgivable and revealed the true measure of his character. I hope he made his peace with god.

  7. Dan Dare

    He has taken one for the team.
    Got to be worth many sympathy votes to send him on his way.

  8. Tel

    Bob Hawke and Keating and a very fine cabinet including Peter Walsh modernised the nation …

    Imposing price fixing on the unions with their central-planned “accords”. It worked at the time, but ultimately led to a lot more Canberra involvement in things they have no business being involved in, which hasn’t been good long run. Keating was an excellent Treasurer but a bit useless as Prime Minister because he is so very unlikable.

    Hawke made a good distraction so that Australia had someone upfront they could feel matey with, while Keating did the business as Treasurer.

    Australian Treasurers should never feel they are owed the top job. We have had very few Treasurers who were not complete crap, and the type of personality that works well in finance is completely unsuitable to being PM. Peter Costello was a great Treasurer, but would have been garbage as PM.

  9. Cassie of Sydney

    “Rafe Champion
    #3013963, posted on May 16, 2019 at 8:43 pm
    Bob Hawke and Keating and a very fine cabinet including Peter Walsh modernised the nation with the ideas of the Liberal Backbench Dries that the other mad Malcolm rejected.”

    Well said Rafe…….I remember the years of “do nothing” Fraser. Fraser squandered two massive electoral mandates (75 and 77) and did nothing….absolutely nothing.

  10. Tel

    I’ve put a black armband on my white bathrobe.

    A few beer stains would finish the look.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I can’t really comment on Hawke as Prime Minister (I’m not a fan of corporatism for a start) but the way he treated Hazel was unforgivable and revealed the true measure of his character

    If the full story about how he treated Hazel ever got out, unforgivable would be the mildest term you would use.

  12. Overburdened

    Dan Dare

    Snap.

    If it turns out to be a ‘degrees of truth’ story (but he suddenly recovers on Sunday), like shortens riff on his mother to drag the alp over the line, it would not come as a surprise.

    If he is in fact dead, his timing was impeccable.

    If he is dead, he will be given a period of grace before the fact that he was a pisspot lecher gets an airing.

    If it was a libnat pollie, he or she would not be given the grace period.

  13. Dan Dare

    Short one says the nation is in mourning.
    No It’s not.

  14. Pardon me if I couldn’t give a shit.
    My sympathy is for Hazel.

  15. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Pardon me if I couldn’t give a shit.
    My sympathy is for Hazel.

    Well said. The “Daily Mail ” is running with the story about THAT application for a Rhodes scholarship.

  16. Overburdened

    Shorten is a pos, regardless of the circumstances.

    He is also wrong about the nation mourning, unless if in mind the nation is composed of alp voters and the rest of the population are irrelevant.

  17. Slayer of Memes

    Plenty of Australian children still living in poverty, despite Bob’s promise in 1987.

    Many, many more will join them when Bill Shorton becomes PM this weekend.

    Vale my country…

  18. Pickles

    Just another Fabian.

  19. Oh come on

    Will there be a sympathy vote bump for Labor on the weekend?

  20. Deplorable

    Pity he did not take the other labor scum that are still on the public teat with him. Who cares

  21. Ubique

    My father was a research fellow at the ANU at the same time as Bob Hawke was in the late 1950’s. He related that Hawke had no chance of completing his PhD owing to his constant boozing and womanising. Hawke treated Hazel abominably and neglected his children. The world is better for his departure.

  22. mh

    Yesterday’s headline

    Hawke backs Shorten as ‘consensus’ leader in new open letter

    Today’s headline

    Bob Hawke Dies

  23. Neil

    What did hawke do? I cannot think of anything.

  24. Dragnet

    Having to endorse Shorten ALP probably finished him off.

  25. Dave in Marybrook

    It’ll be one hell of a state funeral, if only for the line-up of surviving ex-PMs.
    Keating, who will continue to be green with envy.
    Howard, who’ll continue to praise him as a reformer of the right persuasion.
    Rudd, who’ll continue to be a narcissist with nothing sincere to say.
    Gillard, who’ll continue to be a narcissist with no speechwriter no more.
    Abbott, who’ll continue to praise him as a reformer or the right.
    Turdball, who’ll continue to be a narcissist.
    Morrison, who’ll praise him as a reformer of the right if he’s got any nous, but will probably come across as a happy clappy youth group leader.
    And Shorten, who’ll be trying to climb over the corpses back to Whitlam, and parading his trophy second wife, unlike Hawke, who had the good grace to retire quietly with his trophy second wife.

  26. Tel

    Will there be a sympathy vote bump for Labor on the weekend?

    How about a sympathy bump for this country while we reminisce about what we once used to love about the place? The current mob don’t look good in comparison.

    I will say that, in all honesty, the closest modern equivalent to Hawke is ScoMo. They were both smart enough to shut up when they had nothing to say. ScoMo has a knack of being a regular bloke … not overly bright, but not a complete dunce either … and tries his level best to run down the middle of the typical Australian attitude on every issue without a trace of contrivance.

    Come to think of it … when you allow for the fact that Australian politics have veered so far to the left … ScoMo and Hawke aren’t very far apart ideologically either. The modern ALP is mostly run by dingbat social activists, Green wannabes, public service unions, and the Stalinist ABC. They are far away from their working class roots. All ScoMo needs to do is tug his ear, skol a beer, and say the word “consensus” three times.

  27. Old School Conservative

    Tel, my thoughts exactly.
    His death will, IMHO, force people to compare him to Shorten.
    Shorten will be seen to be just a pale shadow of Hake’s charisma and vision.
    I’m tipping this sad moment will not help Labor.

  28. Dragnet

    I think Hawke’s death might give some older and borderline potential ALP voters some pause for thought and reflection on the utter nasty rabble the ALP now is – the contrast will be so evident.
    (And yeah maybe I might be viewing the past with the rose-tinted, but what the hey)

  29. Clam Chowdah

    What did hawke do? I cannot think of anything.

    Implemented the Campbell review findings.

  30. vlad

    Oh shit.

    I hated the bastard, but oh shit.

  31. Hugh

    Sky News is all about how Hawke changed Australia with the Accord, with compulsory Super and with Medicare. Blah blah blah.

    My own view is that none of these helped, but were disasters, but that in many other areas, he did some good. A couple of years before Hawke came in I had a valued but rusted-on-Labor friend who was viscerally opposed to airline deregulation. When Hawke spruiked the idea, my mate was suddenly on board! And he never was as narky about capitalism from that point on. I think that was indicative of Hawke’s almost hypnotic influence. Suddenly capitalism was not such an utterly detestable idea after all. So, points to him there, but no thanks for compulsory Super, Medicare, etc.

    Lurking behind all this is the villain: Malcolm Fraser, who had a thumping majority in ’75, was reputedly reading Ayn Rand last thing at night, and monumentally delivered zilch.

    RIP Bob, and Malcolm. Eternity is a very long time.

  32. Dan Dare

    I started work near the Trades Hall in Carlton in the 1970’s.
    Unlike many surrounding leeches (Slugs & Grubs for one) we had nothing to do with or depend on the largesse of Trades Hall to those in favour.
    The John Curtin however was our nearest pub for a few (?) after work.
    Was Hawke ever the top end of town there. A freight train of booze flowed upstairs and the sycophantic mugs down in the public bar were enthralled.
    That was then and you have to wonder how a socialist man of the people ends up so seriously well off in later life.
    Some warehousing eh?
    And this was after being in remission from Whitlam and the four C’s, Cairns, Crean, Conner and Cameron.
    Not to mention the letdown from Malcolm 1.
    So, here we go again.
    And there is no hope of the uninformed ever being aware of what they are in for.

  33. Mark A

    Old School Conservative
    #3014026, posted on May 16, 2019 at 9:40 pm

    Tel, my thoughts exactly.
    His death will, IMHO, force people to compare him to Shorten.
    Shorten will be seen to be just a pale shadow of Hake’s charisma and vision.
    I’m tipping this sad moment will not help Labor.

    As was mentioned, the young don’t know him and those who did, compare him to Shorten, bad news Bill.

    There will be some sympathy votes for sure, some people are sentimental beyond hope, can’t help themselves.

  34. Ubique

    The Australian’s moderators are rejecting comments which refer to Hawke’s infidelities.

  35. pete m

    Hawke was an inclusive leader – a chairman rather than a despot. He claimed, with some justice, that he had the most talented team of ministers in Australia’s history and let them get on with it.

    He and Treasurer Paul Keating set about transforming Australia’s economy.

    He negotiated an accord with unions to reduce strikes and restrain wages.

    He floated the dollar and deregulated the financial system.

    Tax was overhauled, tariffs were slashed, and enterprise bargaining began.

    In foreign affairs, Hawke was the driving force behind APEC and helped bring peace to the killing fields of Cambodia.

    He made Australia an active player in world disarmament and an influential advocate of free agricultural trade.

    He ended Whitlam’s legacy of free tertiary education and introduced Medicare – a new version of Whitlam’s Medibank.

    List of his achievements according to a journo at Daily Mail.

    Inclusive leader – fine.
    Union accord – helped ruin federation of states and bloated canberra’s importance. Grew importance of unions in central control.
    Floated dollar – ok but never should have been pegged.
    Dereg finance system – hence why we still have 4 big banks and a recent RC showed them to be legalised thieves.
    Tax overhauled – not much – rest ok.
    Ended free tertiary education – well wasn’t that a black eye for his labor legacy?
    Medicare – turned us all into dr junkies.

    He should have lost to Howard but Joh f’d up that election.

  36. Tel

    (And yeah maybe I might be viewing the past with the rose-tinted, but what the hey)

    We all are, and I’m willing to admit that … but then again so is your average Boomer voter who remembers Hawke.

  37. Infidel Tiger

    Franklin Dam.

    Greens Party. Green lunacy. States rights trampled.

    That’s his legacy

  38. wretch

    Without wishing to speak ill of the dead, just another Labor grub, move on.

  39. Hugh

    A constant meme on Sky tonight has been Hawke stopped mining in the Antarctic.

    How weird is that? Arguably the most uninhabited place on the planet, so probably the place where there is the most minimal impact on forms life: ergo there’s to be absolutely no mining?

    The world is mad.

  40. The Beer Whisperer

    I’m tipping this sad moment will not help Labor.

    You’re assuming that an emotional event will invoke a rational response.

    Labor will sail to victory on this.

  41. None

    If the full story about how he treated Hazel ever got out, unforgivable would be the mildest term you would use.

    Getting an illegal abortion so Hawke could study at Oxford would have to be one of them. Like I said. I hope he made his peace with god.

  42. None

    I am with you Beer. Australians are sentimentalist twats. This will help Labor. Because scull.

  43. Dan Dare

    Beer Whisperer
    Yep.

  44. JC

    All the negatives about Bob. Sure, he was a ALP guy, but if the Liars get in, we will all wish we had another Bob Hawke as PM.

    The one thing you can say about him, is that he had many flaws, but he wasn’t a hater and loved Australia.

  45. C.L.

    Just watched Shorten’s and Morrison’s statements.
    Shorten’s was utterly embarrassing. Morrison’s was inspired and quite wonderful.

    If the full story about how he treated Hazel ever got out, unforgivable would be the mildest term you would use.

    Maybe so but few of us really want the “full story” about our worst sins to ever come out.
    Hey.

  46. Crossie

    He should have lost to Howard but Joh f’d up that election.

    And here we are again this time with Clive Palmer, another Queensland egotist, trying to destroy the party that slighted him.

  47. Spider

    Tel

    (And yeah maybe I might be viewing the past with the rose-tinted, but what the hey)

    We all are, and I’m willing to admit that … but then again so is your average Boomer voter who remembers Hawke.

    I think your average boomer is possibly lamenting the passing of an age that will be no more (as represented by Hawke).

    When people in general were less afraid to be genuinely authentic in what they said and did and they didn’t have to continually look over their shoulder (or check their twitter feed) to confirm they weren’t causing offence.

    Imagine any mainstream politician saying “silly old bugger” ever again.?

  48. Ubique

    If the full story about how he treated Hazel ever got out, unforgivable would be the mildest term you would use.

    If Hawke had been a Liberal the full story would have been covered nationally 500 times over.

  49. JC

    I think the measure of the man was the a few years ago at some memorial service for an ALP honcho in Sydney that Abbott attended as PM. Abbot walked to the front and the typical leftwing riff raff began booing him. Bob stood up, walked towards Abbott and greeted in a friendly way. It was Bob’s way of telling the booing crowd to fuck off.

  50. Infidel Tiger

    Maybe so but few of us really want the “full story” about our worst sins to ever come out.
    Hey.

    Very true.

    Hawke was a very good PM all considered. A damn shame we don’t listen to his words on nuclear power and nuclear waste.

    Quite fitting he carked it before the latest incarnation of a good union man becomes PM.

  51. vlad

    Never forget the Australia Card that he did his best to enslave us to.

    The bill, never enacted, said that hereafter Australian citizens would be referred to as “card subjects”. Tgat’s really what it said. Never forget!

    Like so many ALPers, deep down (I’m plagiarising someone somewhere) he was really shallow.

    Condolences to Blanche and may he rest in peace.

  52. Infidel Tiger

    Bob would have hated the current left.

    Imagine him having to deal with the Plibersek crowd?

  53. Deplorable

    This is God punishing the socialists for their smsf franking credit rip off, rot in hell all socialists.

  54. None

    Hawke endorsed Shorten. He was a fuckwit until the end.

  55. nb

    ‘Imagine any mainstream politician saying “silly old bugger” ever again.?’
    Trump.
    🙂

  56. JC

    None

    Some people are able to muster the courage to break out from the crowd. He did at times, but quickly retreated in case he’d be referred to as a rat. He’s not Latham in that sense, but I’d bet a bob there would be little space between what Latham believes and Hawke.

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Never forget the Australia Card that he did his best to enslave us to.

    That was a fiasco of the first order – Hawke went for a double dissolution over the issue, it was never mentioned during the campaign, and after the election, some public servant drove a bullock wagon through the whole legislation.

  58. C.L.

    The ‘endorsement’ was for the launch.
    More telling was the recent clip shown on Seven tonight of the ailing Hawke commenting on the next (meaning the current) election campaign.
    Direct quote: “Bill will never set the world on fire but … he has a good cabinet.”
    I nearly fell off my chair. Why didn’t this get widespread coverage? (No need to answer that).
    But Shorten. What a goose. He links himself to Whitlam on the day Hawke dies.

  59. JC

    It was Gough’s memorial. Here’s the pic.

    Criticize his politics and shortcomings, but he was a man’s man.

  60. YT

    And here is me without champagne….

  61. C.L.

    The trouble I have with all of the storied ‘legacies’ of Labor ‘giants’ – like the Medicare ‘legacy’ being cited everywhere tonight – is that they were all easy. It’s not hard to give free stuff to people. There is no character or courage involved in party-aggrandising largesse-by-fiat.

  62. TBH

    Bob may have been a philandering dick head, but he and Keating (with Peter Walsh and John Button) formed one of the better economic management teams we’ve had in generations. Certainly you look at the current ALP rabble in comparison and you wonder how the party has lost their way. The Liberals really aren’t any better now and they weren’t before Hawke either (in the form of do-nothing Malcolm).

  63. JC

    Get back in the fucking sewer, YT. No one should have left you out this evening. Dickhead.

  64. Infidel Tiger

    Hawke endorsed Shorten. He was a fuckwit until the end.

    You’re a deeply unpleasant person. Seek help.

  65. C.L.

    The clip JC is talking about:

  66. YT

    Sorry Ankles, I never realised this was solely your forum.

  67. None

    Robert James Lee Hawke, who died on Thursday, aged 89, was born on December 9, 1929 in Bordertown, South Australia.

    His father Clem, a Congregational minister, had been an ALP member and uncle Bert was to be a Labor premier of Western Australia. The family’s faith was in the puritan tradition. Mother Ellie hated the sin of not fully using one’s talents.

    Blanche d’Alpuget, later his second wife, recounted in her mid-career biography of Hawke that when Ellie was pregnant with her second son, her Bible kept falling open at the verse in Isaiah: ‘For unto us a child is born, unto us a child is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder.’

    Ellie said he was called Robert because it would sound good when he became Sir Robert.

    An active member of the Women’s Christian Temperance Union, Ellie pledged the future compulsive drinker to a life of abstinence.

    In 1939 after elder brother Neil died of meningitis, all his parents’ love and aspirations were turned on their remaining child, and the family moved to Perth.

    Hawke matriculated from Perth Modern School, the government school that was the springboard for so many bright kids, and started law at the University of Western Australia.

    Cricket, the church and Labor politics were his main interests. Some contemporaries thought he was brash. He’d already started talking about himself as a prime minister.

    Then he almost killed himself in a motorbike accident.

    According to d’Alpuget, the family was convinced that God, by sparing him, had given a sign. And Hawke himself now believed that he was an instrument chosen by the Lord.

    The self-belief remained, but not its theological underpinnings.

    Legends were already building about his drinking – although he tried to hide it from his mother – his successes with girls, and his politicking.

    According to one possibly apocryphal story, when he wasn’t selected for the first grade cricket team, he stacked a meeting, had the selectors sacked and installed new ones who picked him.

    A visit to India, where he was appalled by the poverty, ended his belief in God.

    By then he was engaged to Hazel Masterton. The engagement was to last five years and survive a major crisis.

    As Hazel revealed in her memoir, she became pregnant. But he had applied for a Rhodes scholarship, which was then open only to single men. After guilt-filled agonising, she had an abortion.

    Hawke won his scholarship and left for Oxford, with Hazel following. The next two years were the most carefree of their lives – though chiefly remembered for his making the Guinness Book of Records for downing two and a half pints of beer in 12 seconds.

    At Oxford he did a research degree on Australia’s arbitration system, an unusual choice.

    Neal Blewett, another Rhodes Scholar who became a minister in the Hawke governments, said this meant the dreaming spires left little imprint on him, intellectually or culturally. But it was typical of a man who believed learning was for practical purposes.

    In 1958, having returned to Australia and finally married Hazel, Hawke joined the ACTU as a research officer.

    Starting with the 1959 basic wage hearing, he built up a formidable reputation as an advocate, often leaving employer representatives and the bench behind with his grasp of economics.

    He overcame union prejudices against his university education and developed a formidable labour movement network, partly through drinking sessions.

    Tales of his heroic drinking helped his larrikin image. But Hazel’s memoirs make it clear that it was obsessive and destructive. While she was struggling at home to bring up three children and wrestling with the grief of losing a fourth baby, he was out drinking or womanising. She contemplated divorce.

    In 1969 Hawke, after forging a temporary alliance with the left, won the ACTU presidency.

    etc etc

  68. vlad

    In his latter years he hoovered up spondooliks as a lobbyist-for-hire for the PRC in particular.

    His hobby horse was turning Australia into the world’s dumping ground of choice (for a fat fee, natch) for nuclear waste. Wonderful. The world’s tip, that’s what he set our sights on becoming.

  69. Neil

    Bob may have been a philandering dick head, but he and Keating (with Peter Walsh and John Button) formed one of the better economic management teams we’ve had in generations.

    Really? Govt debt went from 6% to 18% of GDP under hawke/keating and we lost our AAA credit rating under hawke. Unemployment was at 11% when keating became PM. Please tell me what this great economic mangagement was?

  70. Shit Neil, 12%?

    What has it been under RGR and the stupid fucking Abbott and Slow Mo?

    We’re at 60% now.

    Do you realise how fucking bad it will be with Shorten?

  71. C.L.

    The ‘great economic management’ was the decision to push ahead with Howard’s Campbell agenda.
    The rest is hyperbole and mythology.
    But hey, if Fraser wasn’t such a socialist muppet he would have allowed Howard to act.

  72. JC

    The ‘great economic management’ was the decision to push ahead with Howard’s Campbell agenda.

    ‘Sactly.Hawke was the PM that imbecile Fraser never was. Fraser’s family are now Greens supporters by the way.

  73. None

    Some people are able to muster the courage to break out from the crowd. He did at times, but quickly retreated in case he’d be referred to as a rat. He’s not Latham in that sense, but I’d bet a bob there would be little space between what Latham believes and Hawke.

    He never broke from a crowd because he was never part of one. He used people like he used Hazel. He thought he was god’s gift and then just thought himself hot shit. I am glad that Morrison saw fit to also acknowledge the contribution of Hazel Hawke. I know we are all flawed human beings and none of our families are perfect but I would really like some normal people in public life. Being faithful to your spouse might be a good start. Closely followed by ditching any grandiose demented idea that we want to live according to your leftist utopian ideology.

  74. C.L.
    #3014109, posted on May 16, 2019 at 10:51 pm

    The ‘great economic management’ was the decision to push ahead with Howard’s Campbell agenda.
    The rest is hyperbole and mythology.

    https://www.afr.com/leadership/john-hewson-on-australias-heroes-and-villains-of-economic-reform-20150902-gjd7f1

    Hewson reckons once the financial markets were opened up, the government was always going to be mugged by reality and had to go along with it.

  75. None

    You’re a deeply unpleasant person. Seek help.

    Says the man who eats his own scaps and thinks that’s normal.

  76. JC

    Hewson reckons once the financial markets were opened up, the government was always going to be mugged by reality and had to go along with it.

    What Hewson doesn’t say is that the currency crisis began under Fraser who didn’t do a thing about it and carried over through the election to the new government.

  77. Infidel Tiger

    Keatong’s one redeeming feature was saving us from Hewson.

  78. None

    I love the way all the atheists wheel out the RIPs. So now we all believe in an afterlife? Hmm?

  79. Neil

    formed one of the better economic management teams we’ve had in generations

    What great economic mangagement? Somebody please tell me. Victoria almost went bankrupt in the late 1980’s when we also lost our AAA credit rating. Ansett went bankrupt. Unemployemnt was at 11% when keating became PM. What did Hawke actually do?

  80. JC

    Neil

    I can tell you what he did do on the international side. He made sure he placed Australia firmly in the US camp against the commies. That was pretty courageous for the leader of a party that at times was making nice with the murderous pricks.

  81. JC

    I think he said something like.. “We are part of the Western Alliance and we’re staying there”.

  82. Infidel Tiger

    Hawke and Howard’s legacies will both be handcuffing us to greenist lunacy.

    Hawke through the Franklin Dam fiasco and Howard with the RET.

  83. Fisky

    Both Hawke and Howard were the architects of the Big Australia ponzi economy that is destroying everything.

  84. Victoria almost went bankrupt in the late 1980’s when we also lost our AAA credit rating.

    You do understand that John Cain and Bob Hawke were different people and the Cain was a full blown Keynesian twit?

  85. Hugh

    I love the way all the atheists wheel out the RIPs. So now we all believe in an afterlife? Hmm?
    Yep, it’s a Catholic prayer: Requiescat In Pace … may he (or she) rest in peace, a prayer at the end of the traditional Catholic Requiem, predicated on the existence of purgatory and a prayer that a soul be delivered from that place of expiation sooner by the merits of one’s prayers and sacrifices.
    But I’m very happy when I hear atheists express this. On the face of it, if you’re an atheist it’s obviously senseless and so heretical. Death is, to them, the end of everything, so there’s absolutely no “rest” after death, on any definition of “rest”, to wish for. But the fact that many atheists will utter this prayer suggests that many of them have desires and intimations that go beyond their worked-out intellectual world view. (Of course, some atheists will reply that it all just means X has stopped suffering, because X no longer exists. But what about the prayer aspect?) When I hear them say this, I think there’s hope they might begin to see the rest of reality aright.

  86. Fisky

    I met Hawke once, in early 2002. He told me Kevin Rudd would be the next Labor PM. At the time, Rudd was miles away from the leadership, but Hawke was spot on. The fix was in!

  87. Neil

    I can tell you what he did do on the international side. He made sure he placed Australia firmly in the US camp against the commies

    OK thanks. But what else? We lost our AAA credit rating when Hawke was PM. I guess he took us to war in the early 1990’s to support the US. But why this great reverence?

  88. Lazlo

    Hawke and Keating were responsible for “the recession Australia had to have” through their monetary policies (remember 19% interest rates?). Despite today’s re-writing of history by Blanche, some people can recall the economic devastation caused but Hawke in 1991.

  89. C.L.

    Abbott gets it right:

    … in politically-charged comments that have raised eyebrows, Mr Abbott added: “His key achievements – financial deregulation, tariffs cuts and the beginnings of privatisation – went against the Labor grain, as Labor’s more recent policy direction shows. You might also say he had a Labor heart but a Liberal head.”

    By “politically charged,” Fairfax means irrefutably true and therefore annoying to leftists.

  90. stackja

    When boy wants girl he should think again
    There was always lust in the fast lane of politics – but it was a private matter, writes Lisa Carty.

    When in Canberra, Chifley and another famous PM, John Curtin, both stayed at the Hotel Kurrajong, the home away from home for generations of Labor icons.

    The Kurrajong was managed by Isabelle Southwell, better known as Belle, with whom Curtin allegedly had a long affair. And at the Kurrajong, Chifley often had his supper prepared by his secretary Phyllis Donnelly, with whom he apparently had a long relationship.

    She, in fact, served him supper on the night of June 13, 1951, shortly after he phoned his wife Elizabeth in Bathurst, as was his nightly custom. Chifley, by now the opposition leader, had decided against attending a ball at Parliament House that night, instead telling colleagues he was planning to bunker down with a couple of westerns.

    It may be that he, in fact, was choosing to bunker down with Donnelly, but we will never know, because back in those days these things were not discussed.

  91. Colonel Crispin Berka

    #3013999, posted on May 16, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    Yesterday’s headline
    Hawke backs Shorten as ‘consensus’ leader in new open letter
    Today’s headline
    Bob Hawke Dies

    Are we sure that Hawke was actually conscious in the 3 days before he died?

    #3014065, posted on May 16, 2019 at 10:15 pm

    I am with you Beer. Australians are sentimentalist twats. This will help Labor. Because scull.

    Are we sure that Shorten was nowhere near the Hawke residence at the time of death?
    Just asking.

  92. None

    Indeed Hugh hence the hypocrisy of the one-time Catholic now Anglican always adulterer total f****** squid Shorten who said today:
    “We thank him for his service to our nation and we pray now that he Rest In Peace.”

  93. None

    Peter Walsh post politics seemed sensible that everything I read about the Button car plan sounded like nonsense. Like all leftys you lot are still looking for the f****** Messiah.

  94. None

    Such savages to cheer and jeer people as they are arriving for a memorial service. In that instance Bob Hawke really dead stand up and showed himself to be a man.

  95. None

    Berka, it probably killed him to have to endorse tits and claim you had a good cabinet full stop Hawk spent most of his life lying to people lying to his parents lying to his wife lying to Australians while he told us to the Chinese but I guess that was just one lie too many. He knew a few months ago that he was near his end and I hope that he grasps that opportunity given him to put himself right with God and with others. Not everyone gets that chance.

  96. amortiser

    Malcolm Fraser, who had a thumping majority in ’75, was reputedly reading Ayn Rand last thing at night, and monumentally delivered zilch.

    John Singleton pegged Fraser correctly. He said:

    Malcolm Fraser admires Ayn Rand and Ayn Rand admires Malcolm Fraser which just goes to show that neither knows what the other is talking about.

  97. Leigh Lowe

    We set ourselves this first goal: by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty.

    Doesn’t appear in the obituaries.

  98. None

    It is said that Hawks stop believing in God when he went to India and saw the poverty. India now exports food and that’s all thanks to Western ingenuity and western capitalism and Western democracy. So now no child need live in poverty in India without any f****** socialist pretentious paternalism. Gluess god wins again.

  99. Tom

    Both Hawke and Howard were the architects of the Big Australia ponzi economy that is destroying everything.

    And now the union hustler Shorten will destroy the one thing people could turn to for economic gains in the absence of growth in the private economy — the real estate market.

  100. 1735099

    Bob Hawke’s summation of Tony Abbott –
    “He’s as mad as a cut snake…….”

  101. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The legacy of Hawke, and even more so Keating, was the terrible, and forgotten, deep recession of 1990-91, the one that Keating called ‘the recession we had to have’. Many small businesses went to the wall, and unemployment soared, especially amongst youth. Interest rates went up to an economy and family destroying 19%.

    If we want to reprise all of this, Vote 1 Shorten.
    As for dumping your wife and kids, well, Shorten has plenty of form on that too.

    The larrikin side of Hawke, the fun and good-natured part of his character, would be squashed completely under today’s regime of fun-police activism. I agree with Tel, above, that in our political choices tomorrow Morrison represents this type of bonhomie far more than Shorten does.

  102. Mother Lode

    My fear is that some people will feel a wish to vote Labor as a gesture to the departed Hawke.

    A lot of voters are not energetic scholars of politics – but the have to vote.

    In the balance of half-thought out reasons to vote one way or another, this might tip them Labor’s way.

    I just hope enough people this easily persuaded are already Labor voters.

    You would be rather pathetic, so I have some hope.

  103. None

    The larrikin side of Hawke, the fun and good-natured part of his character, would be squashed completely under today’s regime of fun-police activism.

    Yep. And he got that ball rolling with his dumb sex discrimination act because you see the unions never backed equal pay for work of equal value out of justice but rather because Australia was in a period of stagflation then and the unions were scared of women undercutting the men for jobs by virtue of their lower wages. in recent years he could have used his popularity to tell the thought police to shove off or push back against 18c but he didn’t.

  104. One less fornicating traitor on a massive pension!

  105. Botswana O'Hooligan

    Another socialist millionaire and we ex airline pilots will remember him with fondness. The bastard!

  106. Real Deal

    “Bob Hawke died in his sleep.”

    Halfway between the Bar and the Gents.

  107. W Hogg

    Keating was an excellent Treasurer but a bit useless as Prime Minister because he is so very unlikable

    FMD that is the most fuckwitted thing I’ve ever read here. The bloke who engineered first the hyperinflation, then the deepest recession in 90 years. Scumbers and m0ron would be too ashamed to post that shit. You should spend the morning giving yourself uppercuts while you ponder what went wrong in your life to get you to this point.

  108. Shatterzzz

    And not one mention of where he got all his post PM money .. the Chinese will be pleased!

  109. Seth

    He was less deranged than the majority of the party he was always happy to support.

  110. None

    Blanche is now going to go weapon grade Green and have her own spot on the ABC. Watch.

  111. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Nick
    55 minutes ago
    Whitlam yesterday, Hawke today – what can we expect from Bill tomorrow – Gillard

    Comment, from the Oz.

  112. Des Deskperson

    I support and continue to support the Hawke Governments APS reforms, but he had a reputation of being vindictive and unfair to APS employees whom he thought had crossed him.

    Here is the John Enfield story

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/137172396

    To summarise, Enfield was a DEPSEC in PM&C under Hawke in 1983, just before the Combe-Ivanhov story – involving links between the National Secretary of the ALP and an alleged Soviet spying – broke.

    While investigations were still underway, Hawke had privately warned a maaate about entering a business partnership with Combe. Gossip spread, and a lobbyist for the Northern Territory government, which had Combe on a retainer, asked Enfield if there was any security cloud around Combe. Enfield, whose responsibilities included intelligence said that he could neither confirm nor deny the suggestion – the only honest answer he could have given in the circumstances. The lobbyist took this to mean that there were suspicions and spread the story far and wide.

    Hawke went – according to an acquaintance of mine who was on the periphery in PM&C – ”apeshit’ and blamed Enfield for the rumours getting out, even though he had started them himself.

    Enfield, who had acted with complete professionalism throughout, was banished to the Department of Territories. Hawkes’ reputation as an affable good bloke took a considerable hit, at least inside the APS.

  113. Roger

    It is said that Hawke stop[pped] believing in God when he went to India and saw the poverty. India now exports food and that’s all thanks to Western ingenuity and western capitalism and Western democracy.

    Thanks chiefly to the American plant scientist Norman Borlaug, a man of Christian faith who won the Nobel Peace prize in 1970, when he explained his work thus “If you desire peace, cultivate justice, but at the same time cultivate the fields to produce more bread; otherwise there will be no peace” and quoted the Bible’s prophecy as giving him inspiration “And the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose… And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water….”.

  114. Roger

    The bloke who engineered first the hyperinflation, then the deepest recession in 90 years.

    Keating boasted about having his hands firmly on the economic levers of control.

    Unfortunately for the nation his touch wasn’t very deft.

  115. None

    Indeed Rodger that was the true green Revolution. From what I remember he left his wife back home and spent two or three years in Mexico testing out different plant breeds or something.

  116. Roger

    From what I remember he left his wife back home and spent two or three years in Mexico testing out different plant breeds or something.

    Yes, he started in Mexico (not sure about not taking his wife) and following his success in increasing crop yields there he was invited by the Indian government to do the same for them. While the atheists were wringing their hands over population growth leading to mass starvation, one man of faith was directly addressing the issue.

  117. The bloke who engineered first the hyperinflation

    ???

    No.

  118. Roger

    Bourlag is a man truly worthy of esteem.

    One estimate is that as a direct result of his work 1 billion people avoided death by starvation.

  119. jock

    I remember buying a book of Paul keating greatest achievements as PM. It was all blank pages of course. Unfortunately since then you could use the same book for rudd gillard and turnbull. Tony could perhaps get a few items on the first page.

  120. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I remember buying a book of Paul keating greatest achievements as PM

    I nearly brought that, to read on a long train journey – good job I checked first..

  121. A visit to India, where he was appalled by the poverty, ended his belief in God.

    Given India was a full-blown Socialist shithole at the time, I’d suggest he ended his belief in the wrong thing.

  122. Dr Fred Lenin

    Mention of Hawke reminds me of a mates nephew who did business with trades hall when Hawke was boss there ,he told us you had to catch him of a morning before the John Curtin Hotel opened at 10a.m. ,when he went for his top up of beer ,after 10 he was a lost cause jabbeing in Swahili . Great drinking companion though ,but very dangerous to your sobriety . The best alp leader though , and far better than that useless Fraser .

  123. The Beer Whisperer

    Are we sure that Shorten was nowhere near the Hawke residence at the time of death?
    Just asking.

    I wouldn’t put it past him.

  124. Habib

    I reckon they slipped the old fart a bait to get the sympathy vote.

  125. FWofNT:

    Shit Neil, 12%?
    What has it been under RGR and the stupid fucking Abbott and Slow Mo?
    We’re at 60% now.
    Do you realise how fucking bad it will be with Shorten?

    Frank, someone was talking about the 5g network and the NBN.
    Seeing that the NBN was off the books on the grounds that it would be sold at a profit, does the 5G network now mean the NBN is going to have to go on the books?
    What will that do to the national debt?

  126. Hazel stood by him in his alcoholic, womanising years and he dumped her for Blanche. I remember he floated the Aussie dollar and it floated down, down; he declared Australia was no longer a Christian country. Many liked him as he came across as a dinky die Aussie; however, I feel he cultivated this image. Anyone who could bully the Rhodes scholarship board to give him a scholarship lives up to his hawkish name. Wasn’t his name, his forebear’s name, a nick name based on hawkish appearance.

  127. The loan to the NBN counts as an asset and a liability. It will be written off, the loss equal to the loan minus the salvage value.

    This is more of a capital structure question. The government can’t hide the money lent to the NBN.

    Cory says at least 29.5 bn.

    https://www.conservatives.org.au/kevin_rudd_nbn

    I’m not an accountant. If I’m wrong I simply plead ignorance as to how borrowed money can be not accounted for considering it has to go through the consolidated revenue fund – otherwise the Khemlani Loans affair was no biggie.

  128. I see. You are asking about the writedown.

    It means an accrual loss, the cash is already lost. I’m not sure unfunded future cash flows count as losses if they go away. There are contingency losses but they are accrual as well IIRC.

  129. cohenite

    Ubique

    #3014041, posted on May 16, 2019 at 9:51 pm

    The Australian’s moderators are rejecting comments which refer to Hawke’s infidelities.

    They’d run out of print.

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