Open Forum: May 18, 2019

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  1. cuckoo

    Brett Mason is a pudgy SBS journalist who never misses a chance to sneer at Donald Trump, or any conservative. Last night he was reading out various twitter tributes to Bob Hawke. One that simply said “Vale Bob Hawke” he read out clearly as “Vail Bob Hawke”. What a maroon.

    All they could talk about was how Bob’s passing might affect the election result. Seriously, if a comet were found to be heading straight for earth, these idiots would be chattering about how it might affect the election, or encourage the Far Right.

  2. JC

    Drills

    You have one federal member. Not three.
    Pols also have loon lists, which can explain why you couldn’t get through. Having said, that the last two weeks are the busiest times in a pols working life. How self-important do you think you are they would drop everything to take your freaking call. Go pour drinks, ffs.

  3. Nick

    I voted in deepest darkest Greens territory. Next to the door sat the localities’ Green mischief maker, a woke Jabba the Hutt. I thought my ears were deceiving me when the guy behind me told her in no uncertain terms why he wouldn’t vote for the Greens. She smugly argued with him until she mentioned ‘lies spread by the right wing media’, so I turned and gave her both barrels asking her was her parties’ ineptitude really the result of the vast right wing media we have ? Blaming Andrew Bolt whilst having Fairfax and the ABC in support made them look even more stupid. She and the Greens’ candidate sat open mouthed. It was great.

  4. cohenite

    Dear oh fucking dear; the great climate scientist Judith Curry on Tucker after some segments of the bastard bill Nye’s climate show on netfucks. Nye is dynamic, riveting and lying through his punchable teeth. Curry is methodical, precise and deadly boring. This is why true science has lost against alarmism. Alarmism is selling something. I don’t know what Curry is doing other than offering a cure for insomnia.

  5. DrBeauGan

    bespoke
    #3015890, posted on May 18, 2019 at 3:06 pm
    DrBeauGan

    What are you going to do in Cuba? Sit back and watch the cheerful squaller walk by.

    Smoke a lot of cigars, bespoke. Also visit some cigar makers/tobacco growers to see how it’s done. If I can help them do some exporting to Oz directly, I will.

    The US has been doing its best to stuff up the Cuban economy for yonks, and prevents Cuba trading in greenbacks. This is really stupid. It hurts the Cuban people not the communist loons. If they had traded freely with Cuba from the beginning, Cuba would have given up communism for capitalism long since.

    I feel sorry for the Cuban people, caught up in lunatic ideological warfare through no fault of their own.

    My preference for capitalism isn’t ideological. It’s just observably the case that it works the hell of a lot better than communism/ socialism. There are good reasons why, but even if you can’t see the logic, anyone not blinded by prejudice can see the facts.

    I get quite irritated by religious zealots who won’t look at the evidence.

  6. Rebel with cause

    Spoke to a Liberal candidate that is a tight race to pinch a seat of Labor. For the past two weeks his mobile phone has been getting calls every couple of minutes from various numbers. When he picks up its a union hack that acts like an interested voter to waste time before giving him a spray.

    As a result he’s had to screen his calls and only answering numbers he knows – putting him at a substantial disadvantage trying to connect with voters and run election campaign.

    Grubby union tricks.

  7. One Vegan doesn’t make a Salad

    Wifey is OIC at nearby Polling booth. She gave me a call (on her break) when there was no queue. Dropped by ignore htv cards, voted, bought sausage. All done in 5 mins. My HoR vote is pointless as Hotham Vic is a labor seat. Blue bloods where I live and across the freeway red as far as the eye can see. Anyhoo the Senate as a bit of fun. Where do parties get off thinking putting exclamation marks in names will attract votes? I’m not buying a rug.

  8. Some History

    In other news they also announce it’s worse than we thought:
    It’s always – ALWAYS – Worse Than We Thought™.

    The typical sequence in agenda-driven (crap/junk) “science”:

    X is dangerous and needs to be controlled/eradicated/exploited.
    X is worse than first thought.
    X is even worse than worse than first thought.
    The “science” is settled.
    Anyone questioning the “settled” science is a holocaust denier and flat-earther.

  9. JC

    Cronkite, it’s a hard sell to explain methodically the world in pretty decent shape and why. People want to be scared and like being so. It could also be an evolutionary trait too : that we should never rest comfortably and always be on alert because a sabre toothed hungry monster is lurking to eat you in the dark patches of the jungle.

  10. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    Bruce of Newcastle, you can stop worrying about air pollution. (Hint, Beijingers enjoy a few smokes a day, plus a diet rich in fried food, pickles, pork, and all the other things that Westerners fear. Plus, they never jog.

    BEIJING – The average life expectancy of Beijing residents rose to 82.15 years in 2017, more than five years higher than the national average, the Beijing Daily reported Thursday.Jul 12, 2018
    Beijing’s life expectancy rises to 82.15 years – Chinadaily.com.cn
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201807/12/WS5b4714d5a310796df4df6160.html

  11. classical_hero

    Did my voting duty awhile back via postal vote. I had a legitimate reason because at the time I sent the request I was in hospital and I didn’t know if I would be home for the election, which I am. But I put Liberals, Labor and the Greens last in that order. I know I voted Australian Christians first. I can’t remember which order I put SFF, UAP and PHON not that it matters.

    The Senate I voted above the line, since it’s much easier. I didn’t vote for any major party.

  12. JC

    I can’t recall a time in my life when there wasn’t a period of gripping fear the world would end.

    The club of Rome bullshit
    Mass hunger
    Global freezing
    The Ozone layer gonsky
    Acid rain
    Nuclear winter
    Gerbil heating.
    There are more of course

    Humans are a melancholy species, which may help us to survive.

  13. cohenite

    No doubt head prefect but then there is the little boy who cried wolf which is what alarmists do. Being able to distinguish a real threat from bullshit would seem to be a useful adaptation. But alas society has allowed certain types to survive who actually prosper by peddling false crap and who are susceptible to false crap.

    As I say there is no, Lord Monckton aside, sceptic who can match it presentation wise with the alarmists.

  14. Arky

    If they had traded freely with Cuba from the beginning, Cuba would have given up communism for capitalism long since.

    ..
    And be such very good allies to us like China is now.
    ..
    ..

    I feel sorry for the Cuban people, caught up in lunatic ideological warfare through no fault of their own.

    ..
    Who’s fucking fault is it then? The Eskimos?

  15. cohenite

    But hey watch it yourself; Judith Curry was terrible; pauses, qualifications of her own statements; no conviction, namby pamby. It was embarrassing.

  16. JC

    No doubt head prefect but then there is the little boy who cried wolf which is what alarmists do.

    The one we should be really fucking worried about over the long term, that hardly ever gets a mention, is a big meteor strike. We have zero defense for that one because most resources directed in the doomsday category are being swallowed up by the gerbil heating industry.

  17. John Constantine

    There was something about Hazel Hawke that made Australians want to reach out and protect her.

    All of us know what it was. Nobody ever dared say it out loud.

    Australia’s rock-fan craving for her husband, Bob, transformed the man she knew and maybe collective guilt turned her into our martyr.

    The cost was huge: an abortion allowed Bob to fulfil his destiny as a Rhodes Scholar; his drinking and philandering shattered the family; two daughters had drug problems, their son refused to have anything to do with his father for years; she had three facelifts to improve her sense of esteem. And hovering off-stage was the other woman, Blanche d’Alpuget.

    Australians knew all this but kept a conspiracy of silence.

    Once they have set the allowable media speaking points on hawkie, no dissent is allowed.

    Comrades.

  18. Leo G

    Who’s fucking fault is it then? The Eskimos?

    I blame those early 19th century South Lanarkshire utopian socialists.

  19. John Constantine

    At 1.76 meters, little johnny howard was actually taller than the 1.73 meter height of media big man bob hawke.

    Helpful media ran with little johnny, never truthfully mentioned little bobby.

    They all knew everything, mentioned nothing.

    The light on the hill is one of lucifer’s lit farts.

    Comrades.

  20. Helen

    NT politics is a bit different. I put the greens second last on the assessment that they will fade out fast and ALP last. We simply can’t afford to not have CLP in in the NT. There is no alternative.

    I did hear that Alison Anderson (King Brown in a book of that title) was as an official inside the booth, instructing people in language to vote ALP. She was filmed and it was reported to the Commissioner.

    She aheres to the payback principle in full and has a visceral hatred of Bess Price for not backing her when she wanted to take all the indigenous M’sP with her as a kingmaker arm of the government. Bess refused. There were statements at 20 paces. But this now, was payback, pure and simple, even though Alison wore many coats of colours first ALP then CLP then PUP, then resigned. Tony Abbott tried to get her to stand for Lingiari, – oh how I wish she had, Canberra mandarins would not have known what hit them, fair between the eyes, with the deadly aim of a female arm armed with a nulla nulla.

    I shall have to continue to dream of that – of what might have been.

  21. DrBeauGan

    I feel sorry for the Cuban people, caught up in lunatic ideological warfare through no fault of their own.

    ..
    Who’s fucking fault is it then? The Eskimos?

    Power hungry arseholes who fill the heads of fools with ideology, Arky.

  22. Old Lefty

    The ABC produced a skimpy, perfunctory report on the corkscrew attack but, needless to say, left out Abbott’s comments:

    Now I’m not saying any particular candidate is behind this but there is absolutely no doubt who these people want to beat,” he said. “I say to the people of Warringah think long and hard before you give these nasty elements the victory they want.”

    At least it was in NSW and the alleged assailant has been charged. In Yarragrad he’d get a medal.

  23. Bruce of Newcastle

    Judith Curry was terrible

    Judith Curry is a scientist. Scientists are notoriously bad communicators. Like me.
    Bill Nye is effectively a game show host with a degree in mechanical engineering.

    Lots of money flow to climatista “science communicators” like Nye the bad science guy and cartoonist John Cook. No money flows to climate sceptics who do science communication in their spare time if anyone lets them have any airplay, which is usually never.

  24. C.L.

    I guess the corkscrew attack is an example of the kind of “graceless” campaign brought forth by the Abbott Liberals – condemned by Laura Tingle this morning.

  25. JC

    Whatever happened to Laura’s geriatric hubby?

  26. Tel

    Judith Curry is a scientist. Scientists are notoriously bad communicators. Like me.

    If Curry was communicating a “namby pamby” approach without conviction then that’s high quality, accurate communication … because she really is like that.

    However, it’s lovable to have someone come out and admit they are uncertain, and when it comes to long term climate on Earth, and the results of changing to an industrial lifestyle … we genuinely don’t know all that much.

  27. stackja

    Almost no-one in Caucus admired or liked Bob Hawke when he came to power. He was regarded as arrogant, boastful, self-indulgent and a bad drunk. This was the near-unanimous view of friend and foe alike, yet he won four elections (1983, 1984, 1987 and 1990) and was one of Australia’s best prime ministers. He chaired a talented Cabinet, achieving more in economic reform than any other government before or since. Despite this record, he suffered the ultimate humiliation—unique to him—of being sacked by Caucus after winning four elections.

    Hawke was a bad drunk and, worse, refused to shout in turn. He was lousy. ‘Wouldn’t shout in a shark attack’, in the bar-room vernacular of the time. Ian Macphee, when Director of the Victorian Chamber of Manufactures and as such a member of the ‘industrial relations club’—as was Hawke as ACTU President—enjoyed the annual perk that was the meeting of the International Labour Organisation (ILO) in Switzerland. Delegates stayed at the best hotels in Geneva, all expenses paid. Macphee told me how the Australian ILO delegates decided to all meet in one of the popular bars and ambush Hawke. It was arranged everyone would be in the bar before Hawke was due and on his arrival he was to be greeted with the combined demand ‘It’s your shout, Bob’; finally, he had to shout.

  28. I feel sorry for the Cuban people, caught up in lunatic ideological warfare through no fault of their own.

    What they’re caught up in is the competition for votes in the Cuban diaspora in Florida.
    It was ever thus.
    The Cuban exiles put their hurt pride above the welfare of their compatriots.
    Trump, of course, exploits this, but he’s not the first, nor probably will he be the last.

  29. JC

    cohenite
    #3015913, posted on May 18, 2019 at 3:45 pm

    But hey watch it yourself; Judith Curry was terrible; pauses, qualifications of her own statements; no conviction, namby pamby. It was embarrassing.

    Yea, thanks for the non-link, Cronkite. I watched it and I think she did fine, whereas the carnival barker Bill Nye came across as a dishonest weasel.

  30. Mark A

    Leo G
    #3015916, posted on May 18, 2019 at 3:51 pm

    Who’s fucking fault is it then? The Eskimos?

    I blame those early 19th century South Lanarkshire utopian socialists.

    You can only blame the people, My job takes me to many Eastern Eu countries where the peeps have an incomparably better life now than previously, under the communists.

    And yet you will find heaps of them yearning for the “good old days” even have their own party and clubs.

    People deserve what they get, I’m sorry to say, the only unfortunate side-effect is, that those of us who don’t want it, cop it just the same.

  31. DrBeauGan

    Judith Curry was terrible

    Judith Curry is a scientist. Scientists are notoriously bad communicators. Like me.

    Scientists are good at communicating facts to an intelligent, critical, thoughtful audience. They have no training in peddling bullshit to credulous fuckwits. They haven’t the time to master that particular skill.

  32. Old Lefty

    BA Santamaria may not have caused the Vietnam war, but the left have plenty to hate him for. Here’s John Cain II, ALP premier who led Victoria to insolvency in the 1980s, and son of John Cain I, the premier who lost office in the 50s because of the Split, having a rant against the DLP and the Catholic Church in 2007:

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/cain-warns-on-dlp-comeback-20070216-ge48jx.html
    Cain warns on DLP comeback
    By Paul Austin
    February 16, 2007 — 11.00am

    FORMER Labor premier John Cain has hit out at the resurgent Democratic Labor Party, warning of the danger of religious fundamentalists seeking to influence mainstream political parties.

    Mr Cain, whose father John Cain snr’s state government was destroyed by the 1950s Labor split that led to the formation of the Catholic-based DLP, said it was vital to avoid sectarianism and protect a secular society.

    “Fundamentalist religious beliefs are growing in strength and seeking to further their ends by influencing political parties,” he said. “The principal parties have to be aware that this is emerging and that they should resist any attempt, from within or without, to achieve political influence through religious pressures. The key issue, 50 years on, is whether we maintain the separation of church and state — our widely accepted secular society.”
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    Mr Cain was responding to this week’s inaugural parliamentary speech of Peter Kavanagh, who at November’s election became the first DLP member of State Parliament since the 1950s.

    In his speech Mr Kavanagh painted the DLP as a keeper of the Labor tradition of helping battlers and fighting for social reforms. He criticised John Cain jnr for having referred to DLP members as “sectarian serpents” and suggested Mr Cain snr’s bitterness against the DLP was fuelled by “deep-seated religious prejudices”.

    Asked for his response, John Cain jnr told The Age: “The social conscience of DLP members to which Mr Kavanagh refers is not the issue. The people he lauds cast aside their role as members of a Labor government in implementing the reforms he cites. They did this in pursuit of what they saw as a higher cause when the (B. A.) Santamaria and (Catholic archbishop Daniel) Mannix forces sought to have the Catholic Church dominate the Labor Party by stacking its membership with their supporters.

    “There was understandably great bitterness (in the Labor Party) about that disloyalty to their colleagues.”

    Mr Cain said Mr Kavanagh remained silent on whether he and the DLP supported a secular society. But Mr Kavanagh last night said he did believe in the separation of church and state, adding: “This does not mean that only the state has rights. ‘The essence of fairness is mutuality, and this doctrine implies both rights and restrictions on both churches and state.

    “The DLP is, proudly, influenced by Judeo-Christian values. The term ‘religious fundamentalist’, used by Mr Cain to inflame prejudices, is not, however, applicable to the DLP.”

    Mr Kavanagh said Mr Cain was wrong to ascribe religious motivations to the people who left the Labor Party and formed the DLP. “Although many (by no means all) were Catholics, their motivations were actually political,” he said. “The Left was attempting to take over the Labor Party … Many of the people who became the DLP attempted to prevent this takeover.”

    He also rejected Mr Cain’s accusation that the Santamaria forces had tried to “stack” Labor branches.

    “Most of the people he (Mr Santamaria) encouraged to join became valuable, committed, contributing members of the Labor Party,” Mr Kavanagh said. “Rather than ‘stacking’, the process is better described as ‘recruitment’.”

    Now the interesting thing is that John Cain III of that illustrious dynasty is, courtesy of the Andrews government, principal solicitor in the ‘independent’ and ‘apolitical’ Office of Public Prosecutions. On his watch the OPP has distinguished itself by dropping blackmail and intimidation charges against Mr Setka, finding that no ALP MP has anything to answer for over the Red Shirts affair, and of course delivering Pell’s head on a plate to the Socialist Left and the ABC. Of course I wouldn’t think of suggesting such a thing, but someone with a nasty, twisted, suspicious mind might see political influence in those decisions, and even – the leftist equivalent of heaven forfend – the Cain dynasty’s revenge on the DLP at play in the Pell case.

  33. JC

    If Curry was communicating a “namby pamby” approach without conviction then that’s high quality, accurate communication … because she really is like that.

    However, it’s lovable to have someone come out and admit they are uncertain, and when it comes to long term climate on Earth, and the results of changing to an industrial lifestyle … we genuinely don’t know all that much.

    It’s a non-issue as far as the science goes, Tel.

    If you’re really worried about it, you should advocate for the latest in nuclear energy. Otherwise it’s a giant yawn. You should just worry about making making and if you’re on the left , how to steal it. Gerbil heating is really a non-issue that can’t be proven.

  34. vicki

    Humans are a melancholy species, which may help us to survive.

    Actually – this is an interesting thought. Anxiety levels in western societies are pretty high. Since anxiety is a protective evolutionary device, it may well reflect the various threats the future holds.

  35. duncanm

    ” fark – I didn’t realise Hawke’s affair with Blanche (who sounds like a right piece of work) laster almost 20 years.

    What a prick.

  36. cohenite

    Scientists are notoriously bad communicators. Like me.

    You do alright; here.

    But get on Laws or the abc and try to counter the prevailing dogma in a witty, slogan filled way that simultaneously massages the ego of the media shithead you’re talking to. That’s what is required these days: and money which gets the pollies ears.

    I said Judith Curry is a great scientist but she has to be political these days. This alarmist crap is existential and I don’t mean by climate but by the means it provides to the alarmists to appropriate the levers of power because they are saving the world. Staying fucking pure and not being prepared to lower yourself to peddling bullshit to credulous fuckwits means you’re not winning and it’s just one hand wanking in the forest.

  37. Tel

    JC, I’m happy to see Australia develop a nuclear industry, if that’s what it takes to keep industry going here. Using coal is also OK for the short term at any rate. In terms of what can be proven, I’d say we can prove that between the “Little Ice Age” and today it’s gotten a little bit warmer, but some of that is urban heat island, we don’t know how much. In future it will probably get a little bit more warmer, but could also get a bit colder. There was rapid change during the Younger Dryas, no one has any clue what caused that but theories abound. It could happen again, or maybe not … those are the main options covered.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas

    Based on glaciation cycles every 100,000 years, we are due for another in a couple of thousand years, so by the time that comes around we better find a good quality energy source. There’s no way coal will last more than a few hundred more years if we go at it full tilt, so eventually we will have to go nuclear and then solar, roughly in that order I think.

  38. egg_

    Scientists are good at communicating facts to an intelligent, critical, thoughtful audience. They have no training in peddling bullshit to credulous fuckwits. They haven’t the time to master that particular skill.

    Nailed it.

  39. Fleeced

    A Clive Palmer volunteer was fined for allegedly showing police his democracy sausage.

    I guess he was a “swinging voter.”

  40. Robber Baron

    Corkscrew attacker obviously was getting ready to open a few bottles of wine to celebrate the victory over Abbott but just had to do a bit of damage and stabbing along the way.

    H o m o s will be rooting for a Stali win tonight. If you are a f a g, and not a very good looking one at that, tonight is the best chance of you getting some penile action. Love is love.

  41. BA Santamaria may not have caused the Vietnam war, but the left have plenty to hate him for.

    Santamaria dodged service in WW2, but at the same time was a strong supporter of Australian involvement in Vietnam. He was also a religious extremist and Tony Abbott’s mentor.
    He is pitied, rather than hated.

    During World War II, Santamaria gained an exemption from military service. In 1972, Arthur Calwell, confirmed that Santamaria had “dodged” war service after Archbishop Mannix had approached him to gain the exemption.
    When asked, Calwell stated “I want to put the record straight because apparently the Department of Defence cannot find any of the records, nor can the Department of Labour and National Service.”
    Santamaria was a member of the Secretariat of Catholic Action , argued Mannix, “and his work was equivalent to that of a minister of religion.”
    Calwell reflected on the Vietnam War and noted that Santamaria supported it and “conscription of men for military service”, adding “I regret that these people who benefited from our generosity did not beget any children who went out to fight in the war in Vietnam. Their sons were exempted, all of them, because they were employed in reserve institutions as were their fathers.”
    Santamaria denied the allegation that he had ever sought an exemption and stated that ‘if Mr Calwell repeated his statement outside of parliament he would take appropriate action’.
    In May 1972, previously missing records were found confirming Calwell’s version.

  42. JC

    Cronkite

    The science argument has been lost. To be honest there may be a little bit to be concerned about especially with the volume of crap the developing world is and will spew out into the atmosphere in the future.

    Nominally arrogant arseholes like Nassim Taleb suggest we should take risk insurance for this threat. But that’s like buying deep out of the money options hoping for a black swan event. You can go broke doing this. He did last decade. We don’t need to buy any insurance because the technology is there and waiting to be used. Switch to gen 4 nukes as power plants age and we’re then done with gerbil heating.

    Listen, you will never win the argument against gerbil heating because that argument is lost. The argument to beat these fuckers is to go the fully scaled nuke route…. by smashing reactors over their fucking heads.

  43. DrBeauGan

    Staying fucking pure and not being prepared to lower yourself to peddling bullshit to credulous fuckwits means you’re not winning and it’s just one hand wanking in the forest.

    That isn’t a scientist’s job. If you want to do the winning against the alarmists, go for it. BoN will provide the ammunition. Facts. It’s what scientists deal with. Asking them to turn themselves into bullshit spruikers to save you from the loonies isn’t reasonable.

    A coalition of power hungry arseholes and fools is strong because the ph arseholes are motivated and the fools are legion.

  44. johanna

    While other have been scrabbling over the minutia of the election, I have been wallowing in great musicians. Here is Stevie Ray Vaughan, possibly the most politically incorrect artist ever in one clip. BTW, he plays Voodoo Chile in a way that blisters the paint off the walls.

    (1) He wears a Mexican mararchi outfit, which he describes as a Mexican tuxedo. Oh. the disrespect!
    (2) He covers a song by a POC, in this case Hendrix, in the hope of making money.
    (3) He does not put on a fake accent (which Hendrix did) but sings like a Texan.

    In the absence of Steve Trickler …

  45. Tom

    Has the Ponds Institute’s special scientific exit poll called the election yet for the Liars-Filth regime?

    (PS: God I miss HB Bear. Do any Perth Cats know if he’s still alive?)

  46. JC

    Doc

    The one thing you can say about the Left is that they never give up. For instance, they basically lost the argument when Abbott began to talk about a big new tax and managed to reverse the carbonistic tax. Gerbil heating went way down the concern trolling list. But they managed to turn this around, with the punters now concerned about gerbil heating. They never give up and they apply very persuasive techniques. The other side may try to apply logic and reason etc, but ultimately persuasion is what turns people’s minds.
    Hit the fuckers with the nuke argument and continue peddling gen 4.

  47. Dr Fred Lenin

    The more people talk about politics he more I think of th piss poor type of grubs modern career politics attracts ,and that is world wide. The US decromats some of whom are absolutely crazy ,certifiable ,can think of on who is a normal person ,except Trump but hes not a career pollie.
    The UK remainers of both parties who arogantly do everything possible to frustrate the will of the people ,and get pissed off when hey are exposed ,Farage s people are the only normal people but again they are not pollies.
    South africas racist gang mates to mugabe etc etc
    NZ s chinese owned “labor “ gang ,fully paid for by the chinese government .
    The EU “parliament ,285 of whom were bought and paid for by the globalist ex Nazi collaborator schwartz who call him self soros a real Hungarian name , probably changed the name to avoid war crimes charges .
    And finaly Australias finest haha ,the bloody dregs of the law trade and the union gangs .
    Its a sad litany of future doom with these incompetents in charge of the neational purse ,bankruptcy here we come .

  48. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Cuban exiles put their hurt pride above the welfare of their compatriots.

    Weird how every socialist country is a shithole, including Cuba. It’s almost as if there’s a common feature between them all. I wonder what it is?

    Venezuela’s Collapse Is the Worst Outside of War in Decades, Economists Say (18 May)

    MARACAIBO, Venezuela — Zimbabwe’s collapse under Robert Mugabe. The fall of the Soviet Union. Cuba’s disastrous unraveling in the 1990s.

    The crumbling of Venezuela’s economy has now outpaced them all.

    Venezuela’s fall is the single largest economic collapse outside of war in at least 45 years, economists say.

    “It’s really hard to think of a human tragedy of this scale outside civil war,” said Kenneth Rogoff, an economics professor at Harvard University and former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund. “This will be a touchstone of disastrous policies for decades to come.”

    It’s a mystery.

  49. Farmer Gez

    The Great Storm of 1703 was a destructive extratropical cyclone that struck central and southern England on 26 November 1703

    Queen Anne declared it to be God’s judgement.
    We now know it was global warming.

  50. JC

    Sumner is so right on the economics of tariff policy. Lots of people (like here) believe higher tariffs are economically expansionary, but they aren’t: they’re contractionary. The indicators for this were the bond market’s falling yields and the drop in the stock market.
    https://www.themoneyillusion.com/tariffs-can-be-deflationary/

    This is a similar argument to the one I made about the rise of commodity prices preluding the GFC. For instance, the rise in the oil prices was a change in relative prices brought about by increased demand coming from the developing world. It wasn’t a monetary inflation and the higher prices had the effect of contracting the economy. More of people’s money was devoted to paying for the increase in the oil price. Tragically the Fed read it as inflationary so we had the double whammy of deflation and tighter monetary policy. Absolutely toxic.

    Higher prices for imported goods brought on by higher tariffs has the same impact. We better hope the Fed reads this well and eases.

  51. DrBeauGan

    JC
    #3015949, posted on May 18, 2019 at 4:45 pm
    Doc

    The one thing you can say about the Left is that they never give up. For instance, they basically lost the argument when Abbott began to talk about a big new tax and managed to reverse the carbonistic tax. Gerbil heating went way down the concern trolling list. But they managed to turn this around, with the punters now concerned about gerbil heating. They never give up and they apply very persuasive techniques. The other side may try to apply logic and reason etc, but ultimately persuasion is what turns people’s minds.
    Hit the fuckers with the nuke argument and continue peddling gen 4.

    I’m afraid that you are right, JC. Only a tiny fraction of the population is susceptible to facts and reason, most will prefer the plausible huckster. What we need is a bunch of plausible hucksters on the side of truth and rectitude.

    I don’t think Cohenite’s demand that scientists turn themselves into plausible hucksters is going to work. You might as well demand that Bill Shorten turn himself into a scientist. It would take thirty years of poor Bill’s life and wouldn’t work anyway.

    It would be interesting if we are just entering a cooling period and this becomes obvious in a decade or so. Lefties will suddenly swap catastrophes is my guess.

    Hysteria is the big problem. Journos love it, the political class loves it. Us rational people are a tiny minority.

  52. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sharma vs Phelps. We’ve just come back from our 9.00 till 4.00 stint on the hustings for the Australian Conservatives. Phelps had better luck at the booth I was working than in the glorious piece of Twitter above. Wore my white Aust Cons hat, my pigtails and my Conservatives shirt and was surprisingly taken for the youth vote!! No other conservatives around in this electorate handing out on any booth, except for Hairy and me. Maybe one or two turned up at other booths, but it didn’t seem like it – Hairy was doing sterling work at Rose Bay School. We dropped the Aust Cons double corflutes at five different booths, tied together with plastic ties hastily this morning, me wielding the scissors to make the hole and pull the ties tightish so the edifice would stand, and Hairy holding it all upright for me to do so.

    Best part of the day for me was when early on I bowled into the local Scout Hall next to Star of the Sea Church and put up my “Sick of the Greens?” poster – the top part is all sickly green and horrible with a backdrop of megaphoning loonies, and the bottom part is a crisp vote Conservatives message. These should be kept for other occasions, imho. I absolutely loved standing my poster right in the middle of a nest of Green ones! Talk about a great feeling of resistance and up yours to them. Photographed it to dare them to try to move it. Hairy ran checks on our stuff in various booths through the day.

    Strong Liberal vote in my booth, but about 1 in 4 were for Phelps and I expect she will do even better in the inner city areas of greendom. The Greens were struggling in spite of heaps of helpers. Phelps had about eight people doing shifts, always at least five there for her, and she turned up to be gracious for about an hour and get some votes. She wears expensive lezzo shoes and tight lizard look pants. I managed to get Conservative Senate HTV’s into the hands of a lot of people clutching Sharma’s HTV’s, saying Sharma in the Reps and Conservatives in the Senate. At least it got the name known and probably remembered, even though the mood was Sharma Shama. I’m glad to have helped make a Conservative presence at least, so I can look the future in the face and say I tried. Chatted to lotsa people, especially those handing out for Get Up, Greens, Labor, and some Libs too. There’s always a sort of bonhomie on the day as we all circle waving HTV’s as another victim approaches. Hairy won’t talk to Get Up at all and thinks I am insane to even try. I do it because I really like to know who they are and what they think. A lot of them are just dupes, the worried-well, concerned about something they know very little about. I gently and occasionally put them straight on a couple of things, but without risking the fragile friendships. I think it does some of them good to see that someone they can actually relate to holds some very very different views to theirs. Most live in bubbles. 🙂

    We’ll be running the Cat tonight as well as two televisions. Will drop in if possible.
    Heading for a quick revival bubble bath now.

  53. Gab

    Weird how every socialist country is a shithole, including Cuba. It’s almost as if there’s a common feature between them all. I wonder what it is?

    Yes, it’s amazing how anti-capitalism and anti-democracy causes socialist shitholes. Some humans can’t seem to learn from history. Others are just arrogant fools.

  54. Infidel Tiger

    Good afternoon Leaners.

    The lifting community is back from the front and we have raised tens of thousands of dollars for local schools selling over priced hot dogs, bacon egg rolls, cakes, flowers and coffee.

    Pre-poll voters are a disgrace and should all be ashamed.

  55. Infidel Tiger

    A crazed Rod Culleton voter abuses everyone at our Primary School and yelled out that Catholics were running the world.

    If only.

  56. Eyrie

    No pre poll voters aren’t a disgrace. Compulsory voting is a disgrace. If they require me to vote they can at least give me the latitude to determine when and where. Fvck ’em. Besides it is flu season and mixing with great unwashed bogan herd is likely dangerous.

  57. JC

    The other important indicator for economic contraction vs expansion are US bank stocks – particularly money centre banks. Those stocks fell like a 737 maxi.

  58. Fleeced

    Sky News is streaming video for a change… means I can avoid ABC or Nine.

  59. Infidel Tiger

    Mixing with the great unwashed helps to alert us to what we are up against.

    I had to vote twice. Once for me and once for wifey. Loved it.

  60. Bruce of Newcastle

    Very entertaining report Lizzie! Sounds like fun, if rolling dice for sheepstations can ever be fun.

    Phelps, Banks, Oakeshott all are classic fake independents. It’s telling how much dosh and “volunteers” they seem to attract. They know there’s one useful idiot born every minute.

  61. JC

    Yes, it’s amazing how anti-capitalism and anti-democracy causes socialist shitholes. Some humans can’t seem to learn from history. Others are just arrogant fools.

    The left no longer want economic growth for a couple of reasons.

    1. Using this measure shows their policies to be an absolute failure.

    2. More economic growth means more emissions.

  62. JC

    3. The left would rather see economic hardship as long as the spread between the rich and poor narrows. Envy.

  63. Where’s the election thread?

  64. Done Deal

    as one of Australia’s best prime ministers. He (hawke) chaired a talented Cabinet, achieving more in economic reform than any other government before or since.

    Yes, because Howard did the right thing by the country by being bipartisan. the exact opposite of everything liebor has done since. Starting with PK turning on Hewson’s GST with a monumental scare campaign even though he knew it was what was needed and had advocated it. This was the start of populism in this country and liebor have lied, cheated, & ignored every liberal mandate ever since. Even Howard going to an election based on introducing a GST and getting up in the face of another almighty scare campaign could only get it over the line in the senate with the Democrat’s Meg Lees ,one of the unsung leaders of this country imo. she was subsequently dragged down for it to be replaced by the lightweight Nashin Stoat’l Spoilya. liebor even still tried to run the same scare again at the next election and promised to reverse if they won! that’s how thick they are. They have blocked and spoiled every thing ever since with the aid of the watermelons. And meathead has the gall to say he will have a mandate if he’s elected…this is what is wrong with this country ever since, populists who will say and do anything to get power, regardless of whether it means r a p i n g the place. Once PK decided to do and say what ever it took to back stab the raptor he has been a scab on this country. he set the standard that others have willingly followed. About the only thing he said worth remembering is labelling the senate as unrepresentative swill. Pity he couldn’t crawl back to the hole he came out of.

  65. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Where’s the election thread?

    we don’t want no sticking election fred

  66. JC

    Monst

    If Morrison wins are you going to do another version of the Great Wuissiagate scare? How about we do Chinagate if Tit’s pulls it off. No pun.

  67. Woolfe

    Where’s the election thread?

    On your blog, why don’t you and numbers stuff off over there.

  68. dover_beach

    If people can’t win the argument re global warming, what makes them think they can re nuclear? By riding the coattails re AGW? It’s not as if the Left haven’t been poisoning the wells about nuclear energy during that same period and longer.

  69. Bear Necessities

    3. The left would rather see economic hardship as long as the spread between the rich and poor narrows. Envy

    Some how the families of the leaders “find” enormous amounts of wealth. Castro’s, Chavez’s children have become very wealthy individuals.

  70. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I’m afraid that you are right, JC. Only a tiny fraction of the population is susceptible to facts and reason, most will prefer the plausible huckster. What we need is a bunch of plausible hucksters on the side of truth and rectitude.

    importing voteherds doesn’t help democracy

  71. Worried about your franking credits, JC? Heh.

  72. JC

    Dover

    What else do you have? The argument about Gerbil heating has been lost. The argument about gen4 isn’t lost outside of Australia and perhaps Germany. There are about 450 nuclear reactors producing energy spread around the world.

  73. DrBeauGan

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3015972, posted on May 18, 2019 at 5:21 pm
    Where’s the election thread?

    we don’t want no sticking election fred

    Aww, don’t be like that, Zippy. M0nty is hoping he can get a little lefty triumphalism in over the weekend. And he sure could do with a bit of winning; it’s been one damn’ rake after another for him recently.

  74. Tom

    3. The left would rather see economic hardship as long as the spread between the rich and poor narrows. Envy.

    Bullshit, JC. The left doesn’t give a fuck about the poor. The left is the nouveau riche ruling class. The only relationship they have with the poor is wanting to keep their wages down as au pairs and domestics in their million-dollar mansions. “The poor” is just the vote fodder they exploit to get and keep political power — the underclass they’re currently importing by the million into America as illegal immigrants, for example.
    .

  75. JC

    No I’m not worried in the least, Monster. I don’t have a super account where I think it impacts. Also, the effect is for those earning around 60K and I earn a little than that. 🙂

  76. Fleeced

    Erection Fred. Open.

  77. Des Deskperson

    ‘Blanche (who sounds like a right piece of work) ….’

    A former colleague of mine was a former partner of Blache.

    He was certainly a right piece of work. In fact, compared to him, Hawke would have seemed like a model of empathy, emotional intelligence, humility and self-awareness.

  78. JC

    Disagree Tom. The left has policies that oppose and contradict each other.
    In left world, it’s perfectly fine to disregard the poor and advocate policies that would economically flatten everyone.

  79. JC

    importing voteherds doesn’t help democracy

    You’re saying this as a recently arrived Kazakh?

  80. Bear Necessities

    Quentin Ponga rest in peace. A very talented centre, who turned into a forward later in his career. In the 1994 Canberra premiership team you had Meninga as one centre and Ponga as the other. Very frightening to have them running at you.

  81. Cassie of Sydney

    “Democrat’s Meg Lees ,one of the unsung leaders of this country”

    Yep, Meg Lees was one of the last sensible Democrats as well as being one of the last credible cross benchers in the senate…..after she left parliament the party went into a rapid downward slide….particularly under the stewardship of that blonde moron by the name of Natasha De Spoiler….yep…the same mediocrity that the Liberal party, in their infinite wisdom, decided to reward with a juicy government role upon winning office in 2013.

    Stupid fucking Liberals.

  82. Destroyer D69

    A “Schrodinger,s Cat” senate election where the same vote can be both informal and formal at the same time.

  83. bespoke

    DrBeauGan
    I feel sorry for the Cuban people, caught up in lunatic ideological warfare through no fault of their own.

    True but denying agency to much is a little patronizing since they had revolution before. And even with trade
    freeing up cash it’s not trickling down. No denying the the hypocrisy in the idea (most of owe ancestors migrated for a better life) but like Mexico the people that want change have been exported and even encouraged.

  84. DrBeauGan

    Yep, Meg Lees was one of the last sensible Democrats as well as being one of the last credible cross benchers in the senate…..after she left parliament the party went into a rapid downward slide….particularly under the stewardship of that blonde moron by the name of Natasha De Spoiler….yep…the same mediocrity that the Liberal party, in their infinite wisdom, decided to reward with a juicy government role upon winning office in 2013.

    Stupid fucking Liberals.

    Allegedly at the urging of Julie Bishop, Cassie. Which shows what a dumb cuck Tony Abbott was and probably still is.

  85. cohenite

    I don’t think Cohenite’s demand that scientists turn themselves into plausible hucksters is going to work.

    That’s not what I’m saying. I’ve dealt with a lot of the top sceptic scientists and it’s like herding cats. They are still in their ivory towers. Even someone like Stewart Franks (hi Stewart) who could say fuck off with the best of them thought it was beneath him.

    The alarmists have had 40 years to build slogans and a narrative which the msm has largely swallowed bolus. I don’t see how that advantage is going to be broken without sceptic scientists getting dirty (and having wads of cash behind them) and Judith Curry prevaricating is not the way to go.

  86. Dr Faustus

    Labor set to win government
    By 9News17:18

    Labor is set to win government, an exclusive Nine YouGov Galaxy Exit Poll shows.

    The ALP is leading with a four-point margin on a two-party preferred basis, 52-48, the poll reveals. This represents a swing away from the government of 2.4 per cent.

    Such a result would give Labor as many as 80 seats in the House of Representatives, more than enough to take power in their own right. However, with some Labor-held seats still in the balance, they could well fall short of that number.

    Consistent with the polls, but dodgy as fuck due to limited sampling.

  87. dover_beach

    What else do you have? The argument about Gerbil heating has been lost. The argument about gen4 isn’t lost outside of Australia and perhaps Germany. There are about 450 nuclear reactors producing energy spread around the world

    So the argument for nuclear is lost in Australia.

  88. DrBeauGan

    True but denying agency to much is a little patronizing since they had revolution before. And even with trade

    I don’t have a whole lot of agency when it comes to choosing my political leaders, bespoke. Neither do you unless you want Bill Shorten.

    Mark A made your point about eastern Europe falling to communism, but they’ve been voting against it since they had the chance. We don’t generally get what we want or deserve, we get what a foul coalition of fools and fanatics want.

  89. Fleeced

    Come on people, Election thread over here.

  90. JC

    So the argument for nuclear is lost in Australia.

    For the moment. The argument will be won elsewhere and then imported here.

    We have to go through a total economic fuckup with renewballs first. The punters need to see it.

  91. Dr Faustus

    So the argument for nuclear is lost in Australia.

    Never started – we are stuck firmly in the CND era, with Chernoby/Fukushima enhancements.

    It probably won’t be possible to start a sensible discussion until The Australian energy sector is running like something out of a Mad Max movie. An ALP Government may help bring this forward.

  92. JC

    So the argument for nuclear is lost in Australia.

    For the moment. The argument will be won elsewhere and then imported here.

    We have to go through a total economic mess with renewballs first. The punters need to see it.
    Look, we haven’t experienced a serious economic decline for 30 freaking years.

  93. RobK

    The historic Ora Banda Inn was destroyed by a raging fire in the early hours of this morning.
    Sad. My father and I spent 15 years restoring that abandoned old building and developing the General Store, caravan park and preserving the old State Battery.
    It’s had a rough time since I sold it in ’95.

  94. dover_beach

    Never started – we are stuck firmly in the CND era, with Chernoby/Fukushima enhancements.

    Indeed, about the same as the SSM debate. What we had was a monologue by SSM proponents championed the media.

  95. Leigh Lowe

    m0nty

    #3015978, posted on May 18, 2019 at 5:28 pm

    Worried about your franking credits, JC? Heh.

    This impacts SMSF funds in retirement phase and, as JC says, low/middle income earners.
    Now, if your SMSF is in retirement phase you can pull a yuuuge lump sum and structure your affairs between your fund and personal accounts.
    That just leaves nanas and grandpas with a few CBA and Telstra shares copping it.
    #topendoftown.

  96. Boambee John

    Des Deskperson
    #3015985, posted on May 18, 2019 at 5:33 pm
    ‘Blanche (who sounds like a right piece of work) ….’

    A former colleague of mine was a former partner of Blache.

    Occasionally wore a purple corduroy safari suit to work. One of my staff had dealings with him, and told me off for habitually referring to him as “Mr D’Alpuget”. Was afeared she might accidentally refer to him as that to his face!

  97. John Constantine

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/half-of-americans-are-just-one-paycheck-away-from-financial-disaster-2019-05-16?mod=mw_theo_homepage

    Millions of Americans don’t have savings to fall back on

    A separate survey from home repair service HomeServe USA found that almost 1 in 5 Americans (19%) reported having no money set aside for dealing with the costs of an unexpected emergency expense. That report said 31% of Americas don’t have at least $500 set aside to cover an unexpected expense.

    At the other end of the spectrum, over a quarter of Americans (26%) said they had $8,000 or more set aside for unexpected emergency expenses, it added.

    Americans aged 65 and over are likely to have the most money set aside for unplanned expenses: 48% of people within the age group reporting having $8,000 or more in emergency funds (versus 20% of those ages 18 to 64).

    “Nearly half of Americans (49%) cited medical emergencies as a potential unexpected expense for them in the next 12 months, a finding with added significance given the level of national attention and political debate around the topic of health care in recent months,” it added.

  98. Interesting day.
    Handing out HTV cards for AC.
    Time for a coffee, feed the cats, then a beer.

  99. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    not even close JC on both counts

  100. Leigh Lowe

    On the Downer debacle.
    If anyone believes that Shorten will gleefully shop Downer to the US, they really don’t understand Club Canberra.

  101. min

    Hazel was about to divorce Hawke when he was being promoted to leader of AlP. I was told by a very senior politician of conservative leanings , not Liberal, that a certain very rich business man with connections to Labor, donated 3 million to have her stay, as a divorce would have destroyed his chances of winning. Common knowledge back then how badly treated she was.
    Also knew a secretary at Trades Hall back then who used to tell stories about his womanising Makes Weinstein look a novice. However heard these storie the other night told on radio by dyed in the wool Labor Workers.
    Psychologically speaking ,there would have been a lot of guilt connected with that partnership unless he was an out and out narcissist without any self awareness.

  102. Tailgunner

    . Lots of compliments on my red MAGA hat waiting in line.

    Mah nigga!

  103. DrBeauGan

    The alarmists have had 40 years to build slogans and a narrative which the msm has largely swallowed bolus. I don’t see how that advantage is going to be broken without sceptic scientists getting dirty (and having wads of cash behind them) and Judith Curry prevaricating is not the way to go.

    It doesn’t work that way, Cohenite. If you could get all the sceptical scientists (and all real scientists are sceptics) to “get dirty”, which would entail pretending to a certainty they don’t have, and if they all declared agw a scam, and brought up the evidence to ‘prove’ it, nobody would believe it. People who have been scammed are highly resistant to admitting it. It makes them look fools, and they hate that.

    Politicians and the religious like certainties; scientists don’t have any. Pretending to have them is impossible to a scientist. Asking them to stop being scientists and start being politicians is as impractical as doing it the other way around.

    My hope is that we are entering a cooling period and this will be obvious within a decade or two. Then scientists can point out the folly of hysteria and feelz, and argue for the advantages of confronting our ignorance instead of claiming an unwarranted certainty.

  104. bespoke

    Politicians and the religious like certainties; scientists don’t have any.

    Well join me in the agnostic camp it’s logical thing to do, DocBG.

  105. MatrixTransform

    Where’s the election thread?

    In yr head

  106. Atoms for Peace

    So glad we have closed our company and about to gouge and pillage our super.

  107. Dr Fred Lenin

    Dr BG ,its like a detective trying to get a con victim to admit they were conned , very difficult to find witnesses who will stand up in court and admit they were scammed in public .
    Just imagine the prominent intellectual clowns who lecture us about this disaster which constantly changes its name and was going to happen every year . . since it was invented . Those srrogant idiots never admit being wrong They are the backbone of socialism if at first you dont succeed keep trying to fit that square peg in the round hole . Hiw about a referendum about the scam yes or no .no that wont worl pollies dont do referenda they dont win ,they keep holding new ones untill they get the desired result.

  108. cohenite

    If tits does get up victoriastan will do it for the bastard.

  109. cohenite

    And that wonderful adornment to Australian values Ms Steggall looks to have beaten Mr Abbott. How delightful.

    (This post replaces a slightly more blunt description).

  110. rickw

    This is cool, oh, and we’re the ones living in a “free” country!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2RaidXvZsvA

  111. Knuckle Dragger

    Back from cricket. The Buildup returned to Darwin today.

    Didn’t get to gun any left handed batsmen, much as I tried to give the bowlers the benefit of the doubt.

    Sticky and cloudy. Lightning in the distance, with portents of rain.

    The annual massive doof doof fest has been on all day. Standing around in the heat just about shagged me – all the kidlets must be dehydrating themselves stupid. It’s about to hit its peak in the next four hours, and there’s a full moon.

    Chaos. Chaos will ensue.

  112. DrBeauGan

    bespoke
    #3016116, posted on May 18, 2019 at 6:51 pm
    Politicians and the religious like certainties; scientists don’t have any.

    Well join me in the agnostic camp it’s logical thing to do, DocBG.

    It’s a matter of probabilities, bespoke. I’m not a religious atheist who is certain God doesn’t exist. I’m not totally certain.that there aren’t fairies at the bottom of my garden, either. But I shan’t believe in them without some good evidence that they are there. Likewise God.

  113. Top Ender

    Just up the road from there Knuckles. Bass in the Grass or something or other. If I remember rightly that comes from Splendor in the Grass by Walt Whitman. How many of the kids would know that?

  114. Old Lefty

    I’m told that Blanche was known around Canberra (while still with the former partner) as Fifi Au Beaujolais.

  115. Steve trickler

    More excellent footage off the BIG BOY! and 844. Stunning scenery.



  116. We had about seven Labor card handerouters, a shift of about four Liberals, and one Australian Conservatives bloke – me.
    Everyone was dressed in formal Tshirts, jeans, and chapeaux.
    It’s a long day for one person, but I did manage to make it amusing. “Here ya go – Australian Conservatives – chuck ’em into the Senate, let Cory sort the bastards out.”
    “Here, missus. AC HTV for you. And one for the little tacker to scribble on.”
    “Hello little girl – are you sure you’re old enough to vote? Have one of these anyway…”
    “This is the one you’re after, mum. Vote for us and I’ll make a paper plane for the youngster when you come back out.” Don’t know if that one worked, but I made at least half a dozen aeroplanes for the kids.
    The Labor team had a barbie and coffee setup. I had about five sausage sangers with onion on top and below.
    Lots of eye candy and was pleased to see at least eight with buns in the oven.
    Had to have a nap when I got home at 1800, though.

  117. Steve trickler

    Fresh vision from the Machynlleth Loop.



  118. ZK2A:

    Historic Goldfields pub Ora Banda Inn destroyed in fire north of Kalgoorlie

    That’s a pity. Many a fine Sunday afternoon spent there inhaling/imbibing nutritious substances.

  119. BrettW

    The Drum panel at midnight looks like 5 non LNP supporters.

  120. Siltstone

    Historic Goldfields pub Ora Banda Inn destroyed in fire north of Kalgoorlie

    Sad, used to drive there and back from Kal in a work truck, hoping plod was not around on the return trip.

  121. Steve trickler

    Late night laughs.



  122. rickw

    Thanks Tom, the action figures with the dead squirrel is cracker!

  123. Tailgunner

    Oh Frabjous Day!!
    🙂
    Winston, get in here -it’s your shout you madlad!

  124. Tailgunner

    Although my [email protected]/1 looks good in my Ladbrokes account too!
    🙂

  125. Leigh Lowe

    BrettW

    #3017646, posted on May 19, 2019 at 12:38 am

    The Drum panel at midnight looks like 5 non LNP supporters.

    That was a therapy group.
    They just sat there repeating … “real action on climate … marriage equalidy … top ender town” on high rotation.

  126. Leigh Lowe

    I think Numbers return to the Cat was solely aimed at being here for Shorten’s Glorious Victory.
    Good Morning Vieeetnaaaam!

  127. John Constantine

    https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/world/japan-opens-doors-to-us-beef-imports-usda/news-story/1a666dd5bbf6812920cd164cb98a3ffe?fbclid=IwAR05PGZpDlIl3mb3ATkUfKFUbO27r5IBH1vUBmNG0tST_S_SybrETIo7m24

    JAPAN has agreed to eliminate its long-held restrictions on American beef imports, opening full access to U.S. cattle products after more than 15 years, the head of the US Department of Agriculture said in a statement yesterday.

    “The new terms, which take effect immediately, allow U.S. products from all cattle, regardless of age, to enter Japan for the first time since 2003,” U.S. Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue said in a statement.

  128. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oh noes!

    Octopuses may go blind as climate change pulls oxygen from the ocean (18 May)

    It was indeed the climate change election. All the polls were wrong. All of the media was wrong. Al Gore was wrong. Lots of really obnoxious behaviour from climate activists, who also got it wrong.

    Very like the whole not-happening thermageddon scam in fact.

  129. feelthebern

    God bless you Tailgunner.

  130. lotocoti

    Pulling apart some poorly written AOC fanfic is tight.

  131. johanna

    Yeah, Tailgunner and others.

    I discussed the election with an elderly, white, Queanbeyan taxidriver on Friday. We agreed that polls are nonsense, and exchanged stories about Bob Hawke. Like me, he lived and worked in Canberra.

    His is not suitable for a family website. Mine, which is pretty well known, is when Bob was having deep consultations with as pretty young journalist one evening. The TV was on in the other room. As soon as the pips came on for the news, Bob jumped out of bed, donned a dressing gown, and sat down to watch himself on TV.

    Such a romantic!

    He was an absolute jerk to his wife, whose good nature he relied on to get elected. She could have skewered him, but didn’t.

    That said, priapism seems to be common among successful men in all fields of endeavour.

  132. Eyrie:

    If they require me to vote they can at least give me the latitude to determine when and where. Fvck ’em. Besides it is flu season and mixing with great unwashed bogan herd is likely dangerous.

    When I did the HTV handouts for the Australian Democrats, I increased my antivirals for two days beforehand. God willing, I won’t have picked up anything. Mind you, I caught a three year old cutie drinking from my bottle once so I gave her the cold drink.
    Good thing they didn’t notice she slept well for an hour or so.
    Vodka is a great soporific.
    🤪🤡
    (joking!)

  133. Arky

    Time to break that armadildo swines record:
    1

  134. Arky

    all nursing hangovers.
    3

  135. Arky

    and deluding themselves

  136. Arky

    the liberals haven’t changed

  137. RobK:

    Sad. My father and I spent 15 years restoring that abandoned old building and developing the General Store, caravan park and preserving the old State Battery.
    It’s had a rough time since I sold it in ’95.

    Yes – sad.
    You did a fine job there, Rob.
    Do you appear in a couple of the photos when I google image Ora Banda Pub?
    Someone looks familiar. Just sayin’.

  138. Arky

    I hope you all have head explosions when some helmet- haired Liberal harpy goes to the cross- benches and gives the rest of them the excuse they want to bring in a million more gardeners and maids and compulsory beagle loving.

  139. Mark from Melbourne

    prick

    Mate, you had hours to get your stupid record… but yet again, your laziness prevented you from doing so.

    Sad.

  140. Steve trickler

    This thing is barely making the MSM news in the USA.

    These Carbon emitting BIG BOYS must be difficult for them to even think about. ( :

    Fabulous stuff! Footage from the chase. Right in the thick of it.



  141. Beachcomber

    Arky at 12:09 pm

    I still think Shorten will win.

    I know it shouldn’t but this is making me very nervous. A minority Government dominated by the Labor-Green inner city elite ‘independents’ would be a win for Shorten and cause of celebration for the ABC.

  142. Arky

    I have a system.
    If I had started at 1o am I would have had to spend the morning posting 70 consecutive posts on here like some nocturnal rodent loser.
    As it is, I have proved the concept and had the morning rebuilding the choke on the Ford A.

  143. I still think Shorten will win.

    The AEC will soon declare that the result, wrong.
    They just need a week or two to fill out some missing ALP ballot papers.

  144. Arky

    I know it shouldn’t but this is making me very nervous.

    ..
    This isn’t over, not by a long shot.

  145. RobK

    Winston,
    The photos would have to be pre- 1995. There would be some in news clippings(if not of me, then my father or sister) from 1980-95, pre Hancock era.
    I did have a couple of “extra” parts in some Emu Export ads filmed at the pub with the customers in the late 80’s.
    15 secs of glory. Fun times.

  146. rickw:

    Weaponised crop duster:

    Somewhat silmilar to a concept I was expounding a couple of years back.
    In case of a mass enemy invasion threat, we have a mass produced single engine missile carrier aircraft. Armed with 8/10/16 missiles, they would be launched at a mass enemy formation from a dozen or so aircraft. The concept is a semi throwaway launch vehicle firing a torrent of missiles at an enemy advanced fighter/bomber aircraft formation.
    Someone would have already thought of it, I hope.

  147. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Spectator Index
    @spectatorindex
    BELGIUM: Doctors at Royal Academy of Medicine say parents who raise their children as vegans should be prosecuted
    10:17 AM · May 19, 2019

  148. Tailgunner:

    Although my [email protected]/1 looks good in my Ladbrokes account too!
    🙂

    Good one, Tailgunner!
    Remember that all wins come from a Galaxy far, far, away, where money is made from Lefty tears.
    (I was thinking of turfing another $1k at the 7:1 odds, but decide I was being greedy.)

  149. Pedro the Ignorant

    Ora Banda pub …….gawn! Sob.

  150. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The European companies that could supply more of Britain’s 5G network equipment if Huawei is banned carry security risks from their own close links to China, experts say.

    Security researchers raised concerns about Ericsson and Nokia’s manufacturing of telecoms equipment at factories in China under joint ventures.

  151. Stimpson J. Cat

    Gold.

    Arnold
    @Schwarzenegger
    Thanks for your concerns, but there is nothing to worry about. I thought I was just jostled by the crowd, which happens a lot. I only realized I was kicked when I saw the video like all of you. I’m just glad the idiot didn’t interrupt my Snapchat.
    11:18 PM · May 18, 2019

  152. Steve trickler

    Just remember, Scott Morrison.

    Gavin and Milo were banned from OZ under your watch…disgusting! Fix it.

    With that said, enjoy a cigar.



  153. Steve trickler

    Some action from downtown Fremantle. WA.



  154. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    As most people know, and for those who would like to know, I am strongly Pro-Life, with the three exceptions – Rape, Incest and protecting the Life of the mother – the same position taken by Ronald Reagan. We have come very far in the last two years with 105 wonderful new…..
    ….Federal Judges (many more to come), two great new Supreme Court Justices, the Mexico City Policy, and a whole new & positive attitude about the Right to Life. The Radical Left, with late term abortion (and worse), is imploding on this issue. We must stick together and Win….
    ….for Life in 2020. If we are foolish and do not stay UNITED as one, all of our hard fought gains for Life can, and will, rapidly disappear!

  155. JC

    Interesting take from Nancy Lazar – a well thought Wall Street economist. Barrons.

    Middle America, the emerging market.

    You like to say Middle America is your favorite emerging market. Why?

    Middle America is where the bulk of these goods-producing jobs are. It’s not every state. Illinois is a difficult place to do business. So you aren’t seeing industries grow there like you see in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Texas, and Wisconsin. The Philadelphia Fed and the Cleveland Fed just did a cool study highlighting that, if you don’t have a college degree, the best place for you to look for a job is in Middle America, because that’s where most of the goods-producing jobs are.

    They are well-paying jobs. The unemployment rate has come down for people without a [bachelor’s] degree. The breadth of the job improvement is just really, really exciting. The employment backdrop in this country is one of the healthiest that I’ve seen in a long time.

  156. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    from above link

    “At the end of the day (federal) Labor had a very complex message and I think it needed to be a very simple message,” she said.

    so complex, we are going to tax the shit out of you and the eyeballs out of your grandmother. we are too stupid to get it

  157. 2dogs

    if you don’t have a college degree, the best place for you to look for a job is in Middle America

    If that’s true, the student loans of the college educated will start draining the coastal cities in the US of wealth in coming years.

  158. JC

    You gotta love this. How to avoid being murdered in Brazil if you’re a gang member.

    As gang wars drive Brazil’s homicide rate to historic highs, evangelical pastors — long revered in the nation’s slums and prisons — have come up with a new way to protect members looking for a way out.

    Gang leaders say the only way to leave the business alive is to convert to Christianity. So Barros, a televangelist popular here in western Brazil, memorializes a gang member’s embrace of the ancient articles of faith using the most modern of tools: He records the conversion on his smartphone and posts the videos on YouTube, Facebook and WhatsApp. The converts gain immunity against retribution by rival gangs and their own.

    Gang leaders and law enforcement officials say it works.

    “We aren’t going to go against the will of God,” a local leader of the powerful Comando Vermelho, the gang that was pursuing Viera, told The Washington Post. “God comes first, above everything.”
    And there is an enforcement mechanism:

    When his attackers saw it [the deconversion video], they dropped their pursuit. But they monitored him for months, checking to see if he was going to church or had contact with his former leaders.

    “If I do anything wrong, they will kill me,” Cunha said. “I have to take the video seriously. They don’t tolerate regressions.”

  159. John Constantine

    Your Farm & Accreditation

    Because of the high standards demanded by the LPA, Australian farmers are in a great position to transition their diligent record keeping and first-rate farming practices into compliance for other accreditation schemes that offer substantial rewards to help drive bottom line profitability and further reward for your hard work and diligence.

    Australian lamb and beef producers are among the best and most regulated in the world. The high welfare, regulatory and record-keeping standards that Australian farmers are held to shouldn’t be looked at as a burden, but considered a pathway to increased profits and ensuring Australia leads the world in delivering safe, premium quality and trusted products for consumers.

    Comrades

  160. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    China’s senior diplomat Wang Yi has told US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo that recent US words and actions have harmed the interests of China and its enterprises, and that Washington should show restraint, China’s foreign ministry says.

    Speaking to Pompeo by telephone, Wang said the United States should not go “too far” in the current trade dispute between the two sides, adding that China is still willing to resolve differences through negotiations, but they should be on an equal footing.


    so the US should steal everything not bolted down from china?

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The high welfare, regulatory and record-keeping standards that Australian farmers are held to shouldn’t be looked at as a burden, but considered a pathway to increased profits and ensuring Australia leads the world in delivering safe, premium quality and trusted products for consumers.

    Went through all this ballocks, in the wheat industry, what, ten, fifteen years ago. “Increased profits” my hairy aunt.

  162. rickw

    The European companies that could supply more of Britain’s 5G network equipment if Huawei is banned carry security risks from their own close links to China, experts say.

    I wonder how many industrial robots and CNC machine tools with Chinese built components and “extras” report back on what they’re doing and making? Could be just as interesting field of endeavour for the Chicoms as telecommunications.

  163. rickw

    For rural readers Know Your Tractors.

    40/50

    Must try harder!

  164. Mark A

    rickw
    #3019247, posted on May 19, 2019 at 9:08 pm

    For rural readers Know Your Tractors.

    40/50

    Must try harder!

    Missed a few I never heard of, the colour scheme was a giveaway for some.

  165. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The chairman of SKL, which represents Sweden’s municipalities and county councils, has warned the country could be facing a new migrant crisis due to so-called “family reunifications” — chain migration — saying the influx could rival 2015.

  166. John64

    Antony Green
    @AntonyGreenABC
    1h
    The first batches of postal votes have delivered Boothby and Wentworth to the Liberal Party today and the Coalition now have 75 seats. They still lead in Bass which could be the 76th seat and majority government. #ausvotes19

  167. RobK

    Because of the high standards demanded by the LPA, Australian farmers are in a great position to transition their diligent record keeping and first-rate farming practices into compliance for other accreditation schemes that offer substantial rewards 


    The LPA’s e-vendor declaration and waybill portal is the clunkiest useless form Ive ever filled out online. It took me longer to fill out the form than to load a b-double with sheep the last two loads out.

  168. johanna

    Here is a great video (about 30 minutes) of Nigel Farage, a journalist who is less moronic than most, and a bunch of Yorkshire punters talking about Brexit. This is rock solid Labour territory, but it looks like the local member’s anti-Brexit stance means that she is gone at the next election.

    It’s seismic stuff. People whose families have voted Labour for generations are saying, no way. The locals interviewed in this clip are pure Yorkshire working class, and they are furious about being fobbed off as dumb racists. Absolutely and totally and beyond belief, tradition and all the rest pissed off.

    Farage’s new party, formed only weeks ago, is now polling more than Labour and the Conservatives combined. He is a political genius. Watch how he fields the questions – a master.

    Well worth a look for those interested in UK politics.

  169. Stimpson J. Cat

    You gotta love this. How to avoid being murdered in Brazil if you’re a gang member.

    More Christians should be like this.
    Epic.

  170. bespoke

    Did’t even try Mark. Point to the tractor tell me what to do.

  171. bespoke

    She got a lot of well deserved stick for harassing that dad and his little girl, Ƶĩppʯ.

  172. RobK

    They will need more computers;
    https://m.techxplore.com/news/2019-05-aims-capturing-power-energy-production.html

    Results from the project, called “Perdigão,” which included a major field experiment in Vale do Cobrão, a valley in eastern Portugal, show that the speed and direction of wind over complex terrain at the height of wind turbine hubs differ significantly from standard weather forecasts, according to the report published in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society.

    Those forecasts, which wind turbine operators rely on to bring facilities online and supply wind power to the grid, are only 40 to 50 percent accurate in regard to the annual energy production—creating a challenge for the industry.

    “A major focus of Perdigão project is to improve forecasting and planning horizons for wind turbine facilities, both in terms of turbine siting and operations,” said Harindra Joseph Fernando, lead principal investigator of the study for the U.S. group and Wayne and Diana Murdy Endowed Professor in the Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering and Earth Sciences and the Department of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering at the University of Notre Dame. “Wind flows are steered sensitively by topography. Mountains, vegetation, rivers and streams shape the speed and direction of wind, so what happens at the site of the turbine is very different from macroscale meteorological forecasts.”

    To be useful, wind power forecasts need to be made at least six hours in advance so that electric grid operators can balance the loads effectively. The project aims to improve such forecasts using a combination of techniques, in particular by improving the so-called microscale models. These models capture the details of flow surrounding a wind turbine with fine accuracy, and provide winds at points separated by 100 meters or so horizontally (compared to tens of kilometers in weather predictions models).

  173. Steve trickler

    The vision and audio is gold. Almost an hour of it.



  174. Tom

    Johannes Leak #2 with the Paywallian’s Media Diary — on the Peanut Head declaration of victory we’ll never read that was to have been run in the Mudrock Sunday tabloids had the Liars won.

  175. 2dogs

    Huxley’s Brave New World is coming soon.

  176. Leigh Lowe

    If anyone spoils the GoT finale tomorrow, you will burn in hell with everyone else Izzy said.

    Well, it turns out no-one shot JR at all.
    It was just a long and intense dream sequence.

  177. Gab

    Dr BG. I hear you’re travelling to Cuba. When will this take place?

  178. Leigh Lowe

    I am already missink the Schorten vun thousand year Reich.

  179. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Dr BG. I hear you’re travelling to Cuba. When will this take place?

    like china everyone that approaches will try to rip you off, ensure you have booked your accommodation and have it sorted out well before hand and don’t try to wing it when you get there. like china it’s just another repressed socialist shithole

  180. Leigh Lowe

    Speaking of repressed socialist shit-holes, where is the spud-peeler?

  181. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I see Rowe is parading his homosexuality again

  182. Megan

    David Rowe is in for a tough few weeks drawing Abbot-less cartoons.

  183. They are well-paying jobs. The unemployment rate has come down for people without a [bachelor’s] degree. The breadth of the job improvement is just really, really exciting. The employment backdrop in this country is one of the healthiest that I’ve seen in a long time.

    I’ve been in Louisiana now for 3 weeks. Just about every business that I go into or drive past has a sign up saying they’re hiring. All types of positions, from the bottom to the top. The most amazing one was a sign outside an offshore oil & gas operation looking for fitters, riggers, and welders. Young guys spend thousands on training courses in Aussie trying to get offshore and never get anywhere. Here there are jobs going begging. I’ve never seen anything like it.

  184. calli

    Thanks Some History and all the others here who have been so encouraging about my little Climate Change kerfuffle.

    Trying to break through the shell of ignorance and blind faith in the purity of climate “scientists” is an uphill battle. So entrenched is the belief, so precarious are the times that it takes a bit of guts to speak up and risk friendships, or your good name. I just hope I sowed a seed of doubt.

    What struck me was the hopelessness and anger it generates even in Christians, who should know better. They do know better. It takes away the focus on actual needs and potential good works near at hand and places it at some far away, impossible target, much like Mrs Jellyby’s “telescopic philanthropy”.

    And I’m with Lizzie. I would far rather walk along a beach picking up rubbish than mooching around alarmist circles dictating the actions of others.

  185. stackja

    Federal election 2019: Why opinion polls didn’t predict Scott Morrison’s shock victory
    Claire Bickers, National politics reporter, News Corp Australia Network
    May 19, 2019 9:00pm
    Subscriber only

    YouGov Galaxy managing director David Briggs also admitted the election was a “disaster” for the polling industry.

    Mr Briggs said Galaxy is now reviewing its systems to establish how its national poll could have over-estimated the Labor vote and underestimated the Coalition vote “so badly”.

    But he added a series of YouGov Galaxy seat polls had show the Coalition could retain crucial marginal electorates that could prevent a Labor victory.

    “As this interpretation was inconsistent with the prevailing narrative, many commentators dismissed these seat polls as being unreliable and argued that the process was fundamentally flawed due to some inherent bias,” Mr Briggs said.

    “This assessment can now be seen to be incorrect but the perception blinded some commentators to the true standing of the parties.”

    Bizarrely, one of the only studies to predict a narrow Liberal win was an analysis of social media data and sentiment by Griffith University scientist Bela Stantic.

    He predicted Mr Morrison’s victory by analysing millions of social media comments from more than half a million users over the past month.

    His Big Data and Smart Analytics lab also predicted Brexit and President Trump’s win.

    WHAT THE PRE-ELECTION OPINION POLLS SAID
    Result: Coalition 50.92 — Labor 49.08 per cent

    Source: AEC

    NEWSPOLL

    Labor ahead 51.5 per cent to 48.5 per cent on May 18.

    Labor ahead 51 per cent to 49 per cent on May 13

    Labor ahead 51 per cent to 49 per cent on May 6

    Labor ahead 51 per cent to 49 per cent on April 29

    Labor ahead 52 per cent to 48 per cent on April 16

    IPSOS

    Labor ahead 51 per cent to 49 per cent on May 16

    Labor ahead 52 per cent to 48 per cent on May 6

    Labor ahead 53 per cent to 47 per cent on April 8

    ESSENTIAL

    Labor ahead 51 per cent to 49 per cent on May 16

    Labor ahead 52 per cent to 48 per cent on May 7

    Labor ahead 51 per cent to 49 per cent on April 30

    Labor ahead 52 per cent to 48 per cent on April 7

    GALAXY

    Labor ahead 51 per cent to 49 per cent on poll taken May 13-15

    Labor ahead 52 per cent to 48 per cent on poll taken April 23-25

    Labor ahead 53 per cent to 47 per cent on poll taken March 25-28

  186. calli

    Poor David Rowe. He is about to have his flagship brain tenant ripped away.

    On the positive side, he’s getting the hang of Morrison. He never seemed to capture the Peanut (how could he, when Leak perfected the caricature).

    But he’ll always have Trump. So there’s that.

  187. None

    Rowe still managed to get Abbott into that cartoon – my god what a mess in his head – but I will pay him credit for a rather funny Clive Palmer farting off into the distance.

  188. None

    Oh and don’t think it’s all going to be moonlight and roses because we’ve already got the liberals backgrounding the s m h and crying Abbott Abbott Abbott and climate change. https://www.smh.com.au/federal-election-2019/tony-abbott-under-fire-for-refusing-to-retire-before-warringah-defeat-20190519-p51p18.html

    As I said Ab ott even threw a potential Lifeline as to how Morrisson and the others could tackle the climate change question to the Liberal’s advantage but instead we had Labor already set the agenda with the Guardian upping its language to hysteria like it’s now Global heating not global warming and the Libs playing back up band. It would probably be Sinodinis, Zimmerman you know the usual crowd.

  189. None

    The Giza pyramids are like suburban Sydney. Egypt has no other resources or potential income except for tourism. Let’s just hope that the mighty dollar he’s going to get them to crack down fast.

  190. Bruce of Newcastle

    A fun article to warm your heart and start your day.

    Leftist social media explodes

  191. None

    You did well Calli. Big things from little seeds grow. You have opened there are two the possibility of an alternative plus use also have shown them that it’s perfectly ok to believe something completely different. You just have to let them come to their own conclusion. One of my best experiences on Twitter was befriending a single mother and Labor voter who over a period of two or three years decided that she was going to vote Liberal and she did so and she said she just felt liberated afterwards. I was so chuffed that she told me that and all I did was just listen to her doubts and ask her questions every now and then and help her to articulate what it was that she truly believed. It was then quite natural for her to align her vote witha party that shared her values. She was dyed-in-the-wool about 3rd generation Labor. It happens.

  192. None

    It’s paywallian Bruce but from what I saw on Twitter it probably is hilarious.

  193. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    paywalled

  194. Regarding the soph shutdown.

    I can not think of any subject of which I am going to value the opinion of a 14 year old girl.

    Listening to the first minute, there is no way that she wrote what she is saying. Someone has written it for her and is using a 14 year old girl as the mouthpiece because that is the only white demographic that today has any credibility.

    Sad.

  195. 132andBush

    Calli,
    Your friends have been educated beyond their levels of intelligence.
    There’s a lot of it out there.

  196. Bruce of Newcastle

    paywalled

    It wasn’t for me, which is why I posted the link. I’m not an Oz subscriber.
    Sorry about that.

  197. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It wasn’t for me, which is why I posted the link. I’m not an Oz subscriber.

    I think it’s the very small number of articles you hit during the month that gives you the can we help you lighten your wallet firewall

  198. DrBeauGan

    Gab
    #3019440, posted on May 20, 2019 at 5:32 am
    Dr BG. I hear you’re travelling to Cuba. When will this take place?

    I plan to leave in early June, Gab. Via Spain and the Dominican Republic. It’s all very fluid and my travel agent seems to be of the stunned gazelle type. The poor lass hasn’t met anyone like me before.

    Thanks for the advice, Zippy. I am not expecting much. I expect crooks to try to exploit my sweet trusting nature. Happens all the time.

  199. bespoke

    Adam
    #3019446, posted on May 20, 2019 at 5:53 am
    I’ve been in Louisiana now for 3 weeks. Just about every business that I go into or drive past has a sign up saying they’re hiring. All types of positions, from the bottom to the top. The most amazing one was a sign outside an offshore oil & gas operation looking for fitters, riggers, and welders. Young guys spend thousands on training courses in Aussie trying to get offshore and never get anywhere. Here there are jobs going begging. I’ve never seen anything like it.

    It will be hard task bypassing ‘community’ leaders in the high unemployment places. Hopefully Candice Owen is changing things.

  200. Caveman

    I am already missink the Schorten vun thousand year Reich.

    Dont worry too much , sit back and enjoy the Albo and Hag duke it out to carry on their fearless leaders work …we have always loved you.

  201. Tintarella di Luna

    I am not expecting much. I expect crooks to try to exploit my sweet trusting nature. Happens all the time.

    😂🙃

  202. Dr Faustus

    Their ABC nods in sympathy as China has a WTF moment about Labor’s failure to deliver:

    Chinese state media says shock federal election victory will impact China-Australia relations

    China’s state-owned media outlet Global Times has released an editorial saying it is “far from optimistic again” about Chinese-Australian relations after Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s unexpected election win.

    Tits Labor: bought, paid for – not delivered.
    How many bullets have we dodged?

  203. Dr Faustus

    Incidentally, Rowe’s Plibersek and Bowen are heartwarmingly grotesque.

  204. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Thanks for the advice, Zippy. I am not expecting much. I expect crooks to try to exploit my sweet trusting nature. Happens all the time.

    it’s not crooks that will give you a hard time, some left leaning friends went there a few years ago. They left early.

  205. feelthebern

    I wonder if the Guardian & ABC will torpedo ScoMo for something Rudd did, like they did with TA in 2013.

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