Post Electionitis

Ok.  TAFKAS is surprised by the the result of the election.  Happy?  Well for sure the a Morrison government will be 1,000 times better than a Shorten Government.  But will a Morrison government be as good as it?  Only time will answer that one.  It will be interesting to see the response of the capital and property markets tomorrow.

What will happen to the Labor Party will be also interesting to watch.  And one suspect that, everything else equal, the Coalition may win again next time.

The natural reaction to an electoral loss by a political party is to assess whether the policies were wrong or whether the messenger(s) was wrong, or both.  Based on the comments thus far from Tanya Plibersek and Anthony Albanese, they seem to think the policies were right but the messenger (Bill Shorten) was wrong.

Whatever can be said of the Brendan Nelson opposition (post John Howard Government), they got the message about policy and did not get in the way when KRudd and co unwound Work Choices.  Policy, shmolicy.  The electorate had spoken.

And for all the mandate business from Shorten, Bowen and co, let’s see their response to Coalition legislation in the Senate.

But back to the ALP.  It seems the (electoral) science is not settled for them.  Might they be election deniers.

The very fact that Mr Tax (Bowen), Mr Spend (Albanese) and Mrs Spend Even More (Plibersek) have put up their hands for the ALP leadership suggests that there will not be a fundamental change of policy from the ALP.  Not to mention, there will be those who will argue that the ALP’s policies did not gone far enough and that climate targets must be increased, immigration policies must be further increased and they tax and spend policies were not big enough.

It will be interesting to watch the ALP eat themselves from the inside out over the next period.

And oh yes.  For everything else, it appears Derryn Hinch is gone so well done Victorians.

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57 Responses to Post Electionitis

  1. stackja

    Pollsters were surprised.
    ‘AGW’ has poisoned politics.
    MSM don’t help now. If ever.
    MSM don’t report, they are .opinionated

  2. MSM are rotten and corrupted from the inside and out. Who listens to those fukkers anyway?

  3. Dr Fred Lenin

    The comrdes are in a cleft stick , do they go full retard on climate ,voteherd importation UN communist fascist globalism ,or actually read the old history of the party and beconme a labour party again . Another suggestion is dont announce your unpopular communist polices Just get elected then go for it and supress dissent .
    They could amalgamate with the gangrenes as they are both bought and paidfor by the soros climate carpetbaggers and both hate prodctive workers who are only there to supply money so the elites can enjoy the standard of living they deserve for all that talking and scheming they do instead of working .

  4. Speedbox

    I alternated between Sky and the ABC telecasts and wow, what a difference. It was impossible to miss the abject lack of self-awareness in the ABC commentary. Then, the blame game began on the ABC. Everyone and anything was responsible – except the promoted policies of the ALP and the consequent cost to the nation.

    To be honest, I thought the Liars would secure the HoR and I hoped for a recalcitrant Senate to mute the worst. Hopefully the Libs will achieve a majority and there will be sufficient conservative Senators to keep Morrison on the straight and narrow.

  5. Jonadoh

    Wish we could say the same for the Tasmanians

  6. vlad

    it appears Derryn Hinch is gone so well done Victorians

    You’re welcome. I had thought of putting him absolutely last but it gets crowded down the bottom. There were “worthier” contenders.

  7. Mother Lode

    Now that Hinch is having the spiggot turned off at the tax-payer subsidised government bars, and now that his abrupt fall from Canberra to Earth means there is no reason for far smarter men to coax and inveigle him by dangling bottles of plonk in front of his puckered rubor snout, I think his liver will be rejoicing.

    It may even pour itself a big celebratory drink.

  8. a happy little debunker

    I have no doubt that Ms Plibersek will become their preferred pathway forward..

    When the populace reject your platforms, double down and then go even further left.

    It has worked out so well in the US – Labor will just have to follow suit.

    You cannot resist™ by agreeing with your political opposites.

    We must urgently rename them the ‘Browns’, because not only is that the colour you get mixing Greens and Reds – it also currently describes the insides of their knickers.

  9. Petros

    I baked pumpkin scones to celebrate the win.

  10. Some History

    Was Al Gore’s visit the election tipping point?

    There is little more entertaining than Al Whore massaging his massive ego.

  11. Stimpson J. Cat

    it appears Derryn Hinch is gone so well done Victorians

    Another liver bites the dust.

  12. I wonder if Labor will take a leaf out the US Democrat book, the latter seem to be doing really well lately.

  13. Fleeced

    By my reckoning, of the 76 senate spots (36 of which weren’t up for election), the results will be as follows:

    LNP: …….34
    ALP: …….27
    Greens: …….9 (!!!)
    Centre Alliance: …….2
    PHON: …….2
    Australian Cons: …….1
    Lambie: …….1

    Libs need Hanson, Cori and Lambie to get to 38. Is that even enough? Does a 50/50 split pass legislation, or do they need an extra?

    The new preferential system seems beneficial to the Greens.

    Can someone tell me I miscounted, because this doesn’t really look that great?

  14. TAFKAS:

    The very fact that Mr Tax (Bowen), Mr Spend (Albanese) and Mrs Spend Even More (Plibersek) have put up their hands for the ALP leadership suggests that there will not be a fundamental change of policy from the ALP. Not to mention, there will be those who will argue that the ALP’s policies did not gone far enough and that climate targets must be increased, immigration policies must be further increased and they tax and spend policies were not big enough.

    The lesson these three will have learned is that the promises to tax and spend have cost them the money taps. They will have learned to keep this stuff quiet until after the election.
    Just like Rudd, the Fiscal Conservative.

  15. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I baked pumpkin scones to celebrate the win.

    4 racks of pork ribs on the smoker

  16. stackja

    2GB report – ALP President Wayne Swan to review party policies. A deficit of ideas? A surplus of egos?

  17. min

    According to Jordan Peterson ideas are not the problem . He claims that doing the critical thinking about the ideas is not done . Those that lean to the left , I have noticed, never consider the consequences of their actions. Labor’s policies had huge holes in them so they had not been argued through.
    But then neither party have done their homework on transitioning to Renewables . There is plenty of discussions, audits of countries efforts etc to be found so we don’t invent the wheel again or make the same mistakes. Michael Shellenberger is a good start with good Green credentials.

  18. Rayvic

    Many thought the timing of Bob Hawke’s passing would help Shorten’s cause.

    However, those who compared ‘modern’ Labor with Bob’s government, soon realised how deeply Labor’s values had deteriorated over the past 30 years.

  19. Entropy

    MSM don’t report, they are .opinionated

    Chris Ullman last night got stuck into the fat yellow bastard and his lack of success. There was no attempt or pretence at objectivity, it was a visceral rant. Gloat even. Very unprofessional. I don’t support the FYB, not at all, but I don’t think exorcising his grief that way was a good look for the politician’s husband.

  20. Rayvic

    The prize for campaigning arrogance has to be awarded to Shorten for his refusal to table costing for his dysfunctional climate policy — implementation of which would have seriously damaged the economy, as indicated by Dr Brian Fisher’s modelling.

  21. New Chum

    anyone have an opinion on the Blair electorate
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2019/results
    PHON preferences
    1 Bell
    2Turner
    3Karandrews
    4 Shearman
    5 Quinn
    6 Neumann
    7 Zimpel
    8 Fitzpatrick
    9 Duncan

  22. However, those who compared ‘modern’ Labor with Bob’s government, soon realised how deeply Labor’s values had deteriorated over the past 30 years.

    I thought so as well. The comments by Morrison and Abbott that Hawke was the best PM that Labor had ever had was spot on, and most knew this to be true. Shorten couldn’t fill Hawke’s beer glass, let alone his boots.

    The MSM even tried to spin Abbott’s comment that ‘Hawke was a Labor PM by heart, but a Liberal PM by head’ into something to aid Labor. Again I think it was a pretty good quip that would have resonated with voters, even though Warringah decided to vote for Chicken Little.

  23. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Are you ready, hey, are you ready for this?
    Are you hanging on the edge of your seat?
    Out of the doorway the bullets rip
    To the sound of the beat
    Another commie bites the dust
    Another commie bites the dust
    And another one gone, and another one gone
    Another commie bites the dust
    Hey, I’m gonna get you, too
    Another commie bites the dust!

    Hey
    Oh take it
    Bite the dust
    Bite the dust
    Hey
    Another comie bites the dust
    Another comie bites the dust oww
    Another comie bites the dust hey hey
    Another comie bites the dust eh eh

  24. Squirrel

    What happened to Labor in Queensland (primary vote c.27% in the Reps) is yet another reminder of how far that party has moved from its origins in that state.

    For all the carefully scripted and rehearsed rhetoric about battlers, when it comes to the crunch, Labor is now with the “progressive” desk jockey elites, and the battlers get the leftish version of trickle down as a consolation prize. The field shaping up to replace Shorten suggests that none of this will change in the next few years (if ever).

  25. Habib

    A Slovene Slapper/Ferret Faced Fist Magnet/Mr Personality Bypass cage match will be a hoot. Hard to call though, who is the most loathsome, inane, idiotic and punchable?

    They all have their own qualities, but the Minister of War here would dearly love to plant one square in the mush of that simpering, smug, sanctimonious, smirking slag for Sydney.

  26. Ben

    And the ABC refuses to acknowledge that regional Australia rejected the greens, that city greens increased their numbers, and that Labor candidates only get in because of greens preferences, therefore ALP cannot change their platform.

  27. Ubique

    The comments from the readers at The Oz today make for good reading. This little contributor from Wayne a ripper:

    “I don’t watch the ABC as a rule but I had to take a look at today’s Insiders. Talk about death at a funeral, Barrie Casidy looked about as happy as a bastard at a Father’s Day Barbecue.”

    Dunno how that one got past the PC moderators. I’ll be remembering that simile.

  28. Paul Farmer

    It is even worse than they thought they had the message right but the wrong messenger , listening to Plibersek on insiders this morning she almost was saying they had the policies right but the problem was with the electorate as it was too bold for them . This is getting towards the deplorable mindset that Hillary had. Anyone centrist now who hasn’t drank the kool did are the problem .Shortens speech concession speech echoed the same sentiment , message to the labor party , just because it’s bold doesn’t mean it’s good. Your policies sucked and thank god enough Australians saw that these bold policies belonged in the bin.

    Then most of the abc insider panel agreed in their general comments supporting the idea that you cant take major reforms to the electorate and win . That’s nonsense . What matters is what you take , Australians will accept major reforms when they are necessary and well thought out . Howard’s gst comes to mind even though he took a beating on it in terms of a reduced vote ,?he got it over the line .

  29. 2dogs

    Does a 50/50 split pass legislation, or do they need an extra?

    Not only do they need an extra, they lose one for the senate president.

  30. Dr Fred Lenin

    I enjoy the suffering of arrogant leftist pricks and prickesses ,reminds me of the old biblial saying ,
    “There will be such weeping wailing and rending of clothes amongst them “ha ha good oh .
    Someone coukd make money selling abook of all the excuses for their defeat ,be a hefty tome and not one mention of the real cause.
    Nigel Farage got a bbc comrade when asked about the mnifesto of Brexit party ,we dont have one ,every manifesto I have seen was a whole lot of lies .

  31. Tony Tea

    When someone poses an idea there always needs to be someone else in the room who will say “Then what?” Labor lacked that someone.

  32. Percy Popinjay

    Tanya Plibersek and Anthony Albanese … seem to think the policies were right but the messenger (Bill Shorten) was wrong.

    Excellent. 🙂

  33. mem

    When someone poses an idea there always needs to be someone else in the room who will say “Then what?” Labor lacked that someone.

    So true and it goes right through their policy forums and committees. To start with they only invite supporters/believers. If you counter their policy proposals with any negativity you are likely to become a non person.. But good policy development needs the negatives to be aired and addressed. Then the policy to be altered and then re-tested. This includes both economic and social consequences. Labor keeps trying to cut corners on policy development in the haste to deliver results hence their failures. (pink batts, school halls and especially in state Labor governments renewables).

  34. Texas Jack

    Things really couldn’t be better. The ALP and the supposed Zeitgeist have been quite thoroughly rejected, while the Libs, who took not much at all by way of new ideas into the election, will be able to do very little given the tiny margins and senate blockchain. Expectations are rock bottom and ScoMo has the authority to stick around for quite a while. He might even surprise us by producing a surplus or two, and really surprise us by taking a gander at nuclear options and ridiculous state-federal overlaps.

    But of course the best news by far is that, instead of just Malcolm going into hiding the entire Turnbull family seem likely to emigrate to NY. That city will suit them. It will also suit us. Win-win? Surely!

  35. Texas Jack

    Oops… Typed too soon. Things CAN get better, Sharma is now thumping Phelps. Pre-poll numbers seem to be adding the LNP gains.

  36. mem

    Texas Jack
    #3019013, posted on May 19, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    But of course the best news by far is that, instead of just Malcolm going into hiding the entire Turnbull family seem likely to emigrate to NY. That city will suit them. It will also suit us. Win-win?

    And young Alex after making a fool of himself by thinking he had power and influence in Australian politics has had to shut down his twitter account because he couldn’t stand the negative blow back. I wonder how Infigen Energy shares will fair next week?

  37. yarpos

    I would like to send personal thank you to Bob Brown for the Adani convoy. I think no greater contribution to solidifying the QLD vote could have been made than for a herd of greenie twerps to storm QLD and preach to people how they should live their lives.

  38. Nato

    How could you not be surprised by the results of the election? The coalition have only won 2 polls in 3 years. They just both happened to be on election day.
    Bwahahaha

    After today’s tv explainers on “why” the the election result was what it was, you can’t deny the need to buy tomorrow’s papers to replay the laughs. They don’t vote conservative, listen to conservatives, know conservatives or tolerate conservatives to speak. They have far more pride than insight and it is Glorious!

    How good’s ScoMo!
    I can honestly back Mr Morrison now. Count me in his cheer squad. I am happy that he’s in and want to renounce all my former protestations.

  39. Notafan

    Alex is back, singing two out of three ain’t bad.

    He seems to be taking personal responsibility for the LNP win.

  40. Rob MW

    Bottom line – most of the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd-Abbott era back stabbers, mud-rakers and all round fuck-wits, including Turnbull and his team of castrated pearl clutchers and Shorten, have now been fucked off out of Parliament giving Scott Morrison a clean shot at leading. The end !

  41. Back from the brink (for now.) After the celebrations, time to combat the elite driven Get Up machine and let our citizen voices be heard above the left wing/ ABC/ medja, informing our leaders that efficient energy is a must if we are to remain a first world nation and AGW is a myth perpetrated by a globulist elite and discredited by observation. https://beththeserf.wordpress.com/

  42. stackja

    Doc Evatt’s ALP has reappeared?
    Time for another split?

  43. Roberto

    I would like to send personal thank you to Bob Brown for the Adani convoy. I think no greater contribution to solidifying the QLD vote could have been made than for a herd of greenie twerps to storm QLD and preach to people how they should live their lives.

    Absolutely. Mr Brown went above and beyond. He should get a gong.

  44. Roberto

    Things CAN get better, Sharma is now thumping Phelps. Pre-poll numbers seem to be adding the LNP gains.

    That’s excellent news.

  45. billie

    do you reckon all the lefties will now refuse to accept ScoMo as their leader?

    Like, the ABC?

    Now is a good time to gut them I reckons

  46. mareeS

    We have started a good clean out. Now for the media and the elites, so that we can get back to good business.

  47. iain russell

    habib, harsh but fair. Punch on!

  48. amortiser

    In yesterday’s counting, the Libs scored 58% of postals in Macquarie and 60% of postals in Chisolm. In Chisholm there are nearly 18000 votes left to be counted and 6500 left in Macquarie. If those proportions are maintained both those seats will be won by the coalition.

    There was no more counting in Bass in which the Libs hold a 437 vote lead so they would likely win that as well.

    If they can get 60% of postals they can still win Lilley, Corangamite, And Cowan.

  49. Notafan

    The Labor candidate in Chisholm’s candidate information had her occupation as not employed.

    I’m very pleased that Chisholm is going to stay blue, after Julia Banks performance.

    Poetic.

    Anna Burkes old seat too.

  50. Notafan

    Health and education

    What were the big issues with those state responsiblities that needed more Federal funding?

    Seems like Labor with their destroy the economy climate change and impoverish the ‘rich’ agenda were playing a game with voters.

    Chinese, if nothing else, are super aspirational.

    Box Hill’s bronze towers are testament to that.

    No wonder Bill decided he needed the free grannies for everyone sweetener in Chisholm.

    local Labor candidates ran on ‘better’

  51. None

    The new preferential system seems beneficial to the Greens.

    Yes, as was pointed out at the time the chnges would make it very difficult for minor parties and essentially cement the Greens as the permanent balance of power party. It will end in in tears. SHY is on .8 quota and Libs in SA on 2.5. You would hope Libs will sneak a third but preferences….the whale will be back.

  52. Win

    Many thought Bob Hawkes passing would help the Labor Party. It did. To defeat. It jogge people’s memories as to just what unannounced policies Labor pulls out of its hat once elected .If these were bad what the hell would they pull out when they got in.

  53. Iampeter

    Well for sure the a Morrison government will be 1,000 times better than a Shorten Government.

    Why would you think that?
    What do you actually think is the proper function of government and why?

  54. Cynic of Ayr

    TAFKAS, “Based on the comments thus far from Tanya Plibersek and Anthony Albanese, they seem to think the policies were right but the messenger (Bill Shorten) was wrong.”
    Ah… maybe, but Plibersek not only thinks that, she thinks the electorate got it wrong. “We didn’t have time to explain our policies,” she said.
    Bullshit! She’s had years to explain them, but the trouble is that the more she explained the policies, the more toxic to the voter they became.
    TAFKS is correct, I think. These dummies will double down and did the hole deeper. I hope so.

  55. John Stankevicius

    StackaJ
    I was just thinking of the ALP split with one member of the Democratic labour Party represenative in Victoria. Considering the Catholic component of the APL and how they have been persecuted will this cause a split.
    Further – notice Rudd and Shorten have “converted'” from Catholicism to becoming Anglicans.
    Are they 1945 throwback wantobe’s or to get to the top of the ALP you have to convert – just like Penny.

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