Monday Forum: May 20, 2019

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  1. Tom

    Woops. Paul Zanetti’s brilliant toon got stuck on the wrong side of the fold.

  2. amortiser

    In the last batch of counting, Cowan had the ALP margin reduced by 402 to 1006 with 2501 counted. The Lib is getting 58% of the postals. With about 13,400 votes still to come he needs 54% to take the seat. This is looking promising.

  3. Top Ender

    Worth catching for its insights. Hopefully Sir Les will be along too.

    It’s hell and dame nation for everyone

    MATTHEW WESTWOOD

    Dame Edna Everage is on the blower the morning after news of Bob Hawke’s death and the global gigastar is temporarily lost for words. Weren’t Dame Edna and Hawke just a little bit alike? Not only the luxuriant coiffure and vivid vernacular but the charisma and adulation they inspired in their public. The mauve matriarch and silver bodgie both enjoyed a special love affair with the Australian people.

    “Well, I knew him quite well,” Edna says. “I didn’t always agree — I’m a non-political person. He was one of the last Australian prime ministers with a bit of personality.” She names the character trait with particular emphasis. “He was a genuine character.”

    The reason for this early morning call is because Dame Edna is about to return to the Australian stage on a national tour called My Gorgeous Life. She had announced her retirement in 2012, but it appears she misspoke on that occasion and the lamentations of her adoring possums were possibly premature. She joins an esteemed list of serial valedictorians such as Cher, John Farnham and Nellie Melba, the other great dame of the never-ending farewell.

    “When you say farewell you are not saying goodbye,” Edna assures in a voice that will be of comfort to her anxious public. “It’s another occasion for saying, ‘I’ll see you later’. I have so much to share with my public. And I have had so many desperate messages from doctors who say that a large percentage of the Australian public has gone into terrible withdrawal because they won’t see me again. Some of them are self-harming.”

    The interview is with Dame Edna but the shadowy presence of her manager, Barry Humphries, can be detected in the background. The voice at first sounds more than a little baritonal and weary but is ratcheted up several degrees into that familiar, brassy falsetto. Calling from London, she confesses that it’s late at night and she has been out for the evening, at a private industry preview of Andrew Lloyd Webber’s new venture, Cinderella (in which Prince Charming ends up not with Cinderella but with a duke).

    Edna is nothing if not a creature of the stage. She first emerged from her suburban idyll of Moonee Ponds in 1955 in a sketch called The Olympic Hostess, as a housewife prepared to open her home to an Olympic athlete the next year. The clarion call of fame would take her to theatres around Australia, to Europe and the US. In 2000 she won a Tony award for her Broadway production called Dame Edna: The Royal Tour.

    She thinks back to her early shows in Sydney and the theatres that have long since been demolished, such as the old Theatre Royal, the Tivoli and the Macquarie Auditorium that was used for Bob Dyer’s Pick a Box.

    “What happened? People thought television was taking over,” Edna says. “They never for a minute thought that the theatre had a special place in society. I’m going to be brutal here. The convict background is not at all helpful. They used to take the prisoners to the shows, but in chains. It’s very unpleasant because they couldn’t clap. All they could do was jingle.

    “But you know, people said to me, ‘They love you in Melbourne, Edna.’ But Sydney is a different matter. Sydney is a tough nut to crack. For me, my success in Sydney gave me a wonderful confidence.”

    Edna’s fame rests in part on her wisdom and counsel to a troubled world. What does she make, for example, of the argument involving Rugby Australia and the Wallabies’ former fullback Israel Folau? It turns out she hasn’t heard of Folau — who was sacked last week for his social media posts — but she warms up at mention of the naughty folk that Folau believes are going to hell.

    “Quite frankly, not a lot of Australians know what the word fornication means,” she says. “It’s a bit like flora and fauna. ‘Faunacation’ is probably being rude to koalas, or insulting wallabies.”

    What about others in the Folau sinbook? “I don’t think they deserve to go to hell, homeopaths,” she says. “In fact, I’ve sometimes consulted them. But I do see conventional doctors as well. I travel with my own gynaecologist. I am probably the only international artist who does. I have a quick exploratory, always, before I go on stage. There’s no harm in it, and it is relaxing. I wouldn’t recommend it to the menfolk …”

    Two of her children, Kenny and Valmai, recently have told her they are in same-sex marriages. One hopes they are happy with their choices of life partner, but Edna lets out a groan.

    “Look, is the world going insane?” she says.

    “I want to talk to you about something, that’s almost philosophical. Is happiness a valid goal? It’s sometimes a very frustrating and barren exercise. Happiness is something that comes up to you unexpectedly and taps you on the shoulder.”

    Dame Edna’s national tour with TEG Dainty comes at a difficult time for Humphries. She reveals that she has been the victim of fraud, and Humphries is accused of misappropriating funds from her portfolio of companies. She has been forced to shut down her Friends of the Prostate charitable foundation.

    This unpleasantness coincides with the Melbourne International Comedy Festival dumping Humphries’s name from its Barry Awards. The festival guardians decided some of Humphries’s past comments about transgender people were insensitive and cancelled his association with the festival’s top honour.

    “I didn’t follow it at the time,” Edna says of the festival decision. “Barry and I are not speaking. I am suing him for embezzlement. My legal advisers tell me that I can’t enter into further controversy with him. He’s got his hand in the till, up to the armpit. You have to take action … I don’t want a scandal really.”

    Dame Edna’s legion of fans will be anticipating her return to the stage, the gladiolus waving and the intimate communion she shares with her audience. She will no doubt be finding topical matters to discuss as she puts the world to rights.

    “I love this footballer and his homeopaths,” she says. “Who needs satirists in Australia? We do it so well ourselves, don’t we?”

    Dame Edna’s My Gorgeous Life tour starts in Canberra on September 17 and visits Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, Geelong, Newcastle, Melbourne and Perth.

  4. bespoke

    Armadillo
    #3021112, posted on May 21, 2019 at 2:52 am
    Regardless, back to the point. Where does “Get Up” get its money from? For a “non political” organisation, they seem to have plenty of it. Just like all the other activist organisations around the world.

    When the MSM treats it like a none issue it becomes an excepted part of the system. Like the cash flow between unions and the ALP, not one cares and few realize how corrupting it is.

  5. pete m

    IT, wasn’t he demanding we tear the libs a new one this election and destroy them completely?

    What changed?

    Don’t get too excited about postals all going 1 way against a sitting labor member, they tend to remember them late in the piece and claw back some.

  6. None

    OMG Alan Jones said the guy who stabbed the Abbott volunteer was an economist at a top firm. Did I hear that right?

  7. Bruce of Newcastle

    Johannes Leak has one in the business section with a story apparently about industry funds bracing for some well deserved hammering. Dunno what it says as it’s paywalled.

  8. None

    It begins. “Top Liberal leaders urging Morrison to adopt Labor’s health policy”. Told ya.

  9. None

    Neil Erikson admits he lied about meeting with Andrew Hastie. Fucking jail him.

  10. Whalehunt fun

    I believe you have the words wrong way around. Always the f ing happens once one is in jail.
    So it should be. jail f him.

  11. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Johannes Leak has one in the business section with a story apparently about industry funds bracing for some well deserved hammering. Dunno what it says as it’s paywalled.

    sco mo has to vigorously curtail the exorbitant fees going to industry funds

  12. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    interesting when yazmin posts some shit, it is almost entirely wyminses who jump to her defence, proving again that most wyminsis are complete fucking nuts. how do we roll back universal suffrage???

  13. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3021156, posted on May 21, 2019 at 6:49 am
    interesting when yazmin posts some shit, it is almost entirely wyminses who jump to her defence, proving again that most wyminsis are complete fucking nuts. how do we roll back universal suffrage???”

    Convert to yasmin’s religion.

  14. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #3021152, posted on May 21, 2019 at 6:36 am
    Neil Erikson admits he lied about meeting with Andrew Hastie. Fucking jail him.”

    What’s interesting is that it was a sting…just like the Al Jazeera/ABC sting on the ABC….Erikson should only be jailed when Al Jazeera is kicked out of this country and the activists at the ABC are jailed.

    Hastie needs to sue and sue big time…..message to Andrew Hastie…DO NOT TURN THE OTHER CHEEK ON THIS ONE.

  15. None

    I don’t bsibscribe to the Oz anymore, Cassie. A sting? Was it Aljazeera again? (I have no faith Morrison will do anything. Hastie and the conservs represent a threat to him). Best to tell Hastie direct on his page.

  16. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    twitter is still a festering leftist sewer, I see all the big mouth commies are still there but virtually no one from the right. well done twitter you censorious bastards

  17. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #3021160, posted on May 21, 2019 at 7:07 am
    I don’t bsibscribe to the Oz anymore, Cassie. A sting? Was it Aljazeera again? (I have no faith Morrison will do anything. Hastie and the conservs represent a threat to him). Best to tell Hastie direct on his page.”

    I’m going to do that None…it’s time for conservatives/liberals to STOP turning the other cheek. This smear against Hastie….trying to paint him as a far right nazi….is worse than what was done to One Nation. Erkison’s sting is interesting….the whole leftist MSN immediately fell for it….because it suits their narrative….that anyone who disagrees with them is a far right nazi. The Guardian, SMH and all the other fetid leftist media swallowed it hook, line and sinker…..well they have to pay for this now. They were out to get Hastie…a very decent, principled MAN….who has fought for this country and is a Christian…..oh and Hastie increased his primary vote last Saturday….he won BIG.

  18. None

    I am looking uo his email to write him. Imagree Cassie he needs to go nuclear on this.

  19. Leigh Lowe

    OMG Alan Jones said the guy who stabbed the Abbott volunteer was an economist at a top firm. Did I hear that right?

    Do we have the name of the guy or the firm?
    He is obviously a foggat so will be a protected species unless pressure is put on.

  20. hzhousewife

    Bad flu season this year folks, be prepared.
    I have just read the riot act at work, if you are feeling unwell, stay home, don’t spread your viruses around.
    63 flu-related deaths so far this year.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    Interesting observation made on radio yesterday (I think by ex-ALP senator John Black) regarding Palmer (paraphrasing) …

    Well, the Liberal Party used to have head-kickers who would get out and say this stuff loud and clear. They don’t have them anymore. Palmer did it for them.

  22. Bruce of Newcastle

    Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it!

    Xi Sends Trump A Message: Rare-Earth Export Ban Is Coming

    It would be glorious! The biggest demand for REE these days are wind turbines and EV motors…

  23. None

    Yes indeed Leigh. Abbott used to do it before he was PM. Dutton would do it. It is actually Josh’s job and was Bishop’s job but the lazy cowardly shits can’t be arsed. Both self preening nothing burgers.

  24. Leigh Lowe

    Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it!

    Xi Sends Trump A Message: Rare-Earth Export Ban Is Coming

    It would be glorious! The biggest demand for REE these days are wind turbines and EV motors…

    Karma is a bee-yatch!
    Read a story about this the other day (not the Chinese export ban, but RE mining generally).
    There is one lithium mine in the US and greenies have effectively vetoed the possibility of any others.

  25. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bad flu season this year folks, be prepared.

    Booked in for a flu vac in a couple hours time.

  26. Leigh Lowe

    Joel Fitzgibbon on Channel Nein.

    Coal is good.
    Coal is great.
    We love coal and we need to be loud and proud about that.

    Nein breakfast lady (Knight?) asks … “Tanya is out. If Albo is popular within the party, why not step aside and let him take the reins”.
    Just think about that for a moment. The MSM used to love a leadership contest. Days or weeks of scuttlebutt, rumour, leaks and intrigue.
    What happened for the MSM to want an orderly uncontested transition?
    Well, Joel said the C-word.
    Coal!

  27. Tel

    I already got a bad flu a few months back. Every year I can’t be bothered getting a flu vaccine, and every year my wife gets the shots. We usually come out roughly equal in terms of how often we get sick … which is my local experiment to see if the flu vaccine makes any difference. This year we both got the flu at about the same time, but she recovered faster and I got hit worse … so the vaccine did something, or it was a fluke … one of those.

  28. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It would be glorious! The biggest demand for REE these days are wind turbines and EV motors…

    anyone who still relies on china for anything has rocks in their head

  29. bespoke

    An interesting but long interview about tactics used on social media.

  30. feelthebern

    Tony Abbott is Jon Snow.
    Did all the heavy lifting over a decade.
    For his troubles and all his sacrifices he gets exiled.
    The lesson for all of us is never try.

  31. feelthebern

    Even though the finale was terrible, nothing will take away from the Battle of the Bastards.
    The most epic battle scene in all of tv, of all time.

  32. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tel
    #3021183, posted on May 21, 2019 at 7:46 am
    I already got a bad flu a few months back. “

    In August 2017 I fell very, very sick with Avian Bird Flu…..Type A Influenza….yes, even my doctor was shocked. That year I didn’t get the flu shot and I asked her the following question…”Did I fall sick with Avian Bird Flu because I didn’t get the flu shot? She told me very clearly that even if I had gotten the vaccination that it wouldn’t have stopped me falling ill with Type A Influenza.

    I was sick for weeks….it was a shocker. I was on three different antibiotics and it actually took me a good six months to really recover.

  33. Top Ender

    If the ALP put in Albo instead of Chalmers then they have rocks in their head.

    Chalmers doesn’t have baggage, and seems to have some brains.

    Then again, the ALP do have rocks in their heads.

  34. Cassie of Sydney

    “Before being elected to Parliament, Jim was the Executive Director of the Chifley Research Centre and prior to that, Chief of Staff to the Deputy Prime Minister and Treasurer.”

    Yep….Chalmers…the typical party apparatchik…he has such depth and real life experience…doesn’t he? At least Albo would recognise a massage parlour or two.

  35. Johno

    Rare earths are needed for EVS’ and TV and smart phones. But what do they actually do?

  36. Farmer Gez

    Sabra Lane taking de Natalie to task over the Bob Brown convoy.
    Nutter didn’t like being told the whole affair backfired and asked for the research behind the green jobs once coal is shut down.
    The ABC love the Greens but know the ALP is the only way they get more cash for Aunty. The dogs turning on each other.

  37. pete m

    One of the big issues avoided with shorten’s defeat was his plan to subsidise wages of child care workers.

    It seemed strange as normally govt would just up the child care rebate.

    This direct wage payment was a genuine thin edge of the wedge type matter.

    Once they pay for one set of workers’ wages the call would come out for aged care workers etc etc.

    Really strange policy and amazing how little media it got about the risks it posed.

  38. Tel

    Johno #3021195

    The one that gets used in a lot of electronics (e.g. phones) is Tantalum. The main useful thing about it is the oxide is thin, and a good insulator, producing very tiny capacitors.

    http://www.capacitorguide.com/tantalum-capacitor/

    They could easily use something else, but you would get a slightly larger phone.

  39. Johno

    Thank you Tel.
    So china chucks a hissy and we have to put up with having, say , 2mm added to our smart phone width. Shall we survive the horror?

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    Yet another glorious day in Australiastan. The wolves are not dead, but they are held at bay for the present.

    Dreamt of capping people all night. A reminder – pick your favourite film from any age or genre, and then consign it to the dustbin of history.

    John Wick III is better.

  41. Knuckle Dragger

    I became a member of a FB group last night called ‘Shit Towns of Australia’. Brilliant stuff.

    There was a poll running between which of Katherine and Tennant Creek was the worst, which is a bit like comparing Cassius Clay with Mike Tyson. Voted for Tennant Creek, which won 83/17%.

    I can personally attest that Tennant Creek is the Winx of shit towns in this country.

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    Joel Fitzgibbon on Channel Nein.
    Coal is good.

    Saw that on NBN Nine local news last night, I really did laugh loud and long.

    FITZGIBBON NOT RULING OUT TILT AT LABOR LEADERSHIP

    What a gloriously bonkers headline! Kafka could not imagine how the 21st Century is turning out.

  43. Dave in Marybrook

    Somehow, I don’t think that a print of that Zanetti will end up on That Wong Chap’s wall.

  44. Bruce of Newcastle

    The one that gets used in a lot of electronics (e.g. phones) is Tantalum.

    Not a rare earth. It is associated with lithium deposits (eg Greenbushes in WA) but the host mineral is relatively easy to extract using gravity separation. Refining it to pure tantalum is tougher but the tonnage is so small that a plant could be set up in a month or two if necessary. The main refiner in the US could provide all the tantalum anyone would need, albeit at a higher cost than the Chinese can make it for (not least because the Chinese have no squeamishness about buying slave-produced coltan from Congo warlords).

  45. Viva

    Chalmers is Australia’s Beto O’Rourke

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    C’mon Scomo.

    May the day even better and announce the expulsion of Turnbull.

  47. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Make’ the day.

    Can’t even blame dodgy voice recognition software for that one.

  48. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here’s the page for the US tantalum guys: Boyertown – USA

  49. Tel

    Not a rare earth.

    Well it’s rare and it’s Earthy.

    That’s about the most detailed analysis you are going to get from the buyers of capacitors in the tech industry.

  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Andrew Hastie considers legal action over ‘fake’ story

    Victoria Laurie
    Senior Reporter
    12:00AM May 21, 2019

    Liberal MP Andrew Hastie says he is pursuing legal advice over ­articles published during the federal election campaign that reported he had met with far-right extremist and convicted criminal Neil Erikson at a white farmers’ rally in Perth in April last year.

    Mr Hastie, who has regained his seat of Canning with a 4.6 per cent swing to the Liberals, announced he had placed the matter with his lawyers after Erikson posted a video on Google saying that he had made it all up.

    In the video titled “The Media are idiots – Sorry Hastie” and posted hours after the polls closed at the weekend, Erikson said he had been at the rally but had lied about meeting Mr Hastie and another Liberal MP, IanGoodenough.

    “I made up that I met Andrew Hastie and Ian Goodenough at the South African rally in Perth,” he said. “Now Andrew Hastie is a top bloke, got nothing against him but he is part of the Liberal Party and that fit my narrative so I had to do it.” He said he fed reporters the lie to get back at the left-wing media in Australia, “the same ones that lie about me every single day”.

    “I merely walked past (the MPs) at the rally, I didn’t even know who they were,” he said.

    Google pulled Erikson’s original video in which he claimed he had met the MPs because it contained hate speech.

    Erikson has been convicted and fined for inciting hatred against Muslims and stood alongside dumped former senator Fraser Anning at a far-right rally in Melbourne earlier this year.

    From the Oz.

  51. Rebel with cause

    How many more days can David Rowe keep drawing Abbott?

  52. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Andrew Hastie considers legal action over ‘fake’ story

    Victoria Laurie
    Senior Reporter
    12:00AM May 21, 2019

    Liberal MP Andrew Hastie says he is pursuing legal advice over ­articles published during the federal election campaign that reported he had met with far-right extremist and convicted criminal Neil Erikson at a white farmers’ rally in Perth in April last year.

    Mr Hastie, who has regained his seat of Canning with a 4.6 per cent swing to the Liberals, announced he had placed the matter with his lawyers after Erikson posted a video on Google saying that he had made it all up.

    In the video titled “The Media are idiots – Sorry Hastie” and posted hours after the polls closed at the weekend, Erikson said he had been at the rally but had lied about meeting Mr Hastie and another Liberal MP, IanGoodenough.

    “I made up that I met Andrew Hastie and Ian Goodenough at the South African rally in Perth,” he said. “Now Andrew Hastie is a top bloke, got nothing against him but he is part of the Liberal Party and that fit my narrative so I had to do it.” He said he fed reporters the lie to get back at the left-wing media in Australia, “the same ones that lie about me every single day”.

    “I merely walked past (the MPs) at the rally, I didn’t even know who they were,” he said.

    Google pulled Erikson’s original video in which he claimed he had met the MPs because it contained hate speech.

    Erikson has been convicted and fined for inciting hatred against MOslims and stood alongside dumped former senator Fraser Anning at a far-right rally in Melbourne earlier this year.

    From the Oz.

  53. Knuckle Dragger

    Rebel,

    As many as he can. Abbott’s one of the very few characters he can draw without plastering their names all over them.

  54. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    How many more days can David Rowe keep drawing Abbott?

    Rowe has some serious issues

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    God I loved Leak Snr’s depictions of Turnbull in his emperor’s robes.

    Still makes me laugh.

  56. Leigh Lowe

    And we quickly move to Stage 2 of the 7 stages grieving(*).
    Stage 1 was Anger at the Deplorables.
    Stage 2 will be Anger at the ALP turncoats. Coal Fitzgibbon will be top of the list, closely followed by Anthony “Don’t Call Me Frank King” Albanese.
    .
    .
    .
    * All seven stages are Anger. It’s just who is on the receiving end.

  57. Roger:

    Yes, the good and concerned burghers of Warringah exchanged a former Prime Minister for an ineffectual cross bencher.
    It will have no effect on the planet and Warringah will be the worse off.
    Wise choice!

    They deliberately voted themselves into irrelevancy.
    Clever.

  58. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Breaking news, in the Oz. Chris Bowen will be running for the Labor leadership. More popcorn, anyone? A contest between Albanese and Bowen…

  59. Johno

    Besides Tantalum what other Rare earths are used and can they be substituted for?
    I suspect that a smart phone is very cheap to produce, so if the chinese ban REE exports and the subs are a bit dearer this only impact the price by a dollar or two.
    The Indians produce a $5 smart phone. It doesn’t have all the bells and whistles but it does work.
    Branding is everything.

  60. Knuckle Dragger

    Deep in Warringah this morning, the Chicken Nugget Queen will be waking up, dragging on her active wear, sitting on the couch and thinking, ‘Now what?’

    She’s be wise to remember that in all of western recorded history, very few if any people who assassinate kings have gone on to long and prosperous careers.

    Think Richard III. Starved and killed the boy King and his cousin in the Tower while he was their Lord Protector, only to have his head beaten in for him at the Battle of Bosworth Field a couple of years later.

    His skull had eight separate wounds, all of which were later determined could have been fatal. He was belted so hard (apparently by a Welsh dude with a halberd) that his helmet was driven into his skull.

    Sleep with one eye open, Zali.

  61. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3021210, posted on May 21, 2019 at 8:41 am

    C’mon Scomo.

    Make the day even better and announce the expulsion of Turnbull.

    I doubt that will be a problem.
    Landmark political speeches, either to mark victory or valedictory, almost invariably give a conciliatory nod to even the most bitter enemies.
    After all, the Liars had Rudd, Gillard and Pieman a-kissin’ and a-huggin’ at the campaign launch the other week.
    Sco-Mo pointedly thanked Tony Abbott in his speech, but not a word for Lord Wentworth.
    I hope the Libs re-discover their inner head-kicker if one of the Phaggy Photios Phaction starts running interference for Trumble.

  62. stackja

    Teens go on Warriewood Square shopping centre vandalism rampage in northern beaches
    Jim O’Rourke, Manly Daily
    32 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    Police are hunting teenagers who caused more than $12,000 damage during a vandalism spree at a northern beaches shopping centre on Sunday night.

    Three males aged about 17 turned on a fire hose in the ground floor carpark at Warriewood Square about 8.30pm.

    They also pinched a wheelchair and an industrial powered mop and threw them from an upper level on to a sofa used by shoppers on the ground floor.

    The search for the vandals comes as Northern Beaches Police conducted a series of co-ordinated operations targeting underage drinking, drugs, weapons and anti-social behaviour between 4pm Saturday and 3am on Sunday.

    Parents busy at a GetUp event?

  63. Johno

    Sorry, turns out the Indian $4 mobile was a fraud, but they do make a $40 phone and this one works and is selling like hot cakes.

  64. calli

    Greetings from beautiful Bali.

    These threads run like quicksilver, four pages!

    Nota called our friend a pendant prevaricator.

    I prefer to think of him as a pedant provocateur. The great task of revolution is serious, I tells ya!

  65. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Breaking news, in the Oz. Chris Bowen will be running for the Labor leadership. More popcorn, anyone? A contest between Albanese and Bowen…

    dumb and dumber mk 2

  66. calli

    And its a path of many (sic)s.

  67. calli

    I take it Blabbers is not running because “family reasons”?

    I think I can imagine one.

  68. Knuckle Dragger

    stackja, 9.05 am;

    That WAS the GetUp event.

  69. John Constantine

    G o T.

    Sansa leads the snowy North into Brexit style freedom from the Six Kingdoms.

    Arya Boldly Goes out on a pale stale colonialist voyage of discovery and exploitation.

    All the P o C cannon fodder die or go back where they came from.

    The all knowing, see the future, King Bran rules as hands off small government.

    Jon Snow escapes with the Free Folk out into Free Folk Liberty Land, out from under the hand of the crushing power of the State, having sunk his knife into the ribs of the dreams of Total Control of all for the Total Good.

    Bet this goes into the forgettery of Big State vegynsys wymynsys Stalinsys.

  70. BrettW

    Tanya has now shown why some women don’t get to the top. It is simple, they choose family over career.

    It should also be remembered her husband earns considerably more than her so it is not like they need the money.

  71. thefrollickingmole

    Latham having fun..

    Good news for bottle shop sales on the northern beaches …Real Mark Latham added,
    Mike Carlton

    @MikeCarlton01
    Things I want to see.
    A clear Labor majority.
    Abbott, Dutton, Hunt and Porter gone.
    Coalition chaos.…

    1:38 PM – 20 May 2019

  72. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Put this on Rafe’s thread but it may also have a place here:

    If big plant investment has become high risk then there is a case for a massive government injection into two new coal-fired power plants. If they can do it with the thought bubbles of the NBN and the desalination plants (power plants would cost a lot less than these) then there is definitely a national security economy-saving argument for doing it with base-load electricity generation. Ideology might have to go to one side for us free marketeers in order to correct something that needs urgent correction. Start going immediately on this and they will be finished in two years. Put some legislative grunt into making it impossible for Labor to come along in three years and close them down.

    While on national security, please get some sensible brains in our defense forces to work out how much fuel we have and how much we will need should any significant sea lanes go belly up for a while. Then fund whatever it takes.

    Governments are there for our defense.
    Sometimes they have to spend on essential infrastructure for that.

  73. Top Ender

    apparently by a Welsh dude with a halberd

    Poleaxe, Knuckles, poleaxe.

    The weapon of choice for attacking other blokes in plate armour.

  74. Knuckle Dragger

    The Slovenian Hag is now forever banned from uttering one single word about the non-existent gender pay gap.

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh, and cancel the Pyne submarines in order to pay for the above.

    We can rent some from the Yanks. Or buy cheaper from the Japanese.
    With the Japanese, make it a bundle with some coal-plant expertise.
    They are building heaps of those.

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    TE,

    Ah. That may also explain why my definition of ‘mace’ differs from a lot of other people’s.

  77. Top Ender

    I have a mace you can borrow if you like Knuckles.

    Also a poleaxe.

    Please return clean. Poleaxe shafts are particularly prone to cracking if used with full strength and maximum swing.

  78. Tom

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3021248, posted on May 21, 2019 at 9:20 am

    Agree 100%.

  79. Armadillo:

    No boasting. You are getting as bad as Winston and his fraudulent activities concerning hard working bookmakers.

    I know you’re joking, but if there are doubters, I’m willing to provide banking details to Doomlord.

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    apparently by a Welsh dude with a halberd

    Halberds are good for pulling knights off horseback. Done so well by the Irish.

    As in this song: ‘up with halberd, out with sword’.

  81. mh

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3021194, posted on May 21, 2019 at 8:19 am
    “Before being elected to Parliament, Jim was the Executive Director of the Chifley Research Centre and prior to that, Chief of Staff to the Deputy Prime Minister and Treasurer.”

    Yep….Chalmers…the typical party apparatchik…he has such depth and real life experience…doesn’t he? At least Albo would recognise a massage parlour or two.

    Jim Chalmers’ electorate office is in the heart of Logan Central. Labor heartland where generational welfare dependence is the the norm. Crime stats high, murders not uncommon – victims often just in the wrong place at the wrong time, domestic violence and drug abuse tragically high. Racial street battles have made national news that were within a km or two from Jim’s office.

  82. Oh come on

    My goodness. These Tommy Robinson protesters are complete dickheads.

  83. EvilElvis

    Greetings from beautiful Bali.

    Damn, you’ve just dropped a few rungs on my ‘esteem ladder’, Calli.

  84. Knuckle Dragger

    Hmmm, TE.

    My three foot star picket with nails hammered and bent through the holes at the nasty end (refer Shit Towns of Australia, Tennant Creek, above) could do with some adjustments.

  85. Oh come on

    I like Tommy’s tactic of mocking the shit out of them, laughing in their faces, trying to take selfies with them etc. They clearly take themselves soooo seriously and it winds them right up. That woman at the end – ‘you’ll be hearing from me, I work for a newspaper’. Cringe!

  86. Tom

    Greetings from beautiful Bali

    Jealous, Calli. Perfect spot to bypass the Mexican winter.

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tanya has now shown why some women don’t get to the top. It is simple, they choose family over career.
    It should also be remembered her husband earns considerably more than her so it is not like they need the money.

    I admire that she has put her husband first in all of this.

    She must know that disreputable elements in his past history would be dragged out to humiliate him in public view. She is not all bad: she loves the man. Money is irrelevant in the face of this.

  88. Oh come on

    It should also be remembered her husband earns considerably more than her

    Very good money in his line of business, so I’m told!

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    They also pinched a wheelchair and an industrial powered mop and threw them from an upper level on to a sofa used by shoppers on the ground floor.

    They’re lucky that sofa was not one of those fake ones as in the foyer at Double Bay Woolworths.
    They look like a sofa but are actually rock hard plastic.

    Splat!!!!

  90. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.

    — Winston Churchill

  91. Woolfe

    She is not all bad: she loves the man.

    Plus he gets her drugs at discount. Though maybe Chloe will be tempted?

  92. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sco-Mo pointedly thanked Tony Abbott in his speech, but not a word for Lord Wentworth.

    Yes. ‘Marvelous in our eyes’.

    Now – toss the tosser.

  93. Atoms for Peace

    All of this talk about Olympians and sport has me musing as to whether we should introduce dummy spitting as a new event. It would not be girly boy competition as some of our ABCALP luvvies could generate 1500 fps dummy spit velocity. The umpires would need to gear up like ice hockey goalies.

  94. Leigh Lowe

    Tanya has now shown why some women don’t get to the top. It is simple, they choose family over career.
    It should also be remembered her husband earns considerably more than her so it is not like they need the money.

    I admire that she has put her husband first in all of this.

    Utter bullshit.
    Has the family situation changed between Friday and Monday?
    If they had won do you think she would be taking a backward step?
    Nup.
    The vicious piece of work was looking forward to a life of smacking people around from the Treasury benches, but she simply doesn’t have the stomach for having to front up and fight for another three years.
    Lazy.

  95. Woolfe

    Someone must surely get hold of and publish the Gloat Letter that Shorten gave to all newspapers after his victory?

  96. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The ABC love the Greens but know the ALP is the only way they get more cash for Aunty. The dogs turning on each other.

    hahaha. Cut ABC funding in half and insist on a spill of all jobs.
    Then watch these high moral grounders destroy each other in a bun rush of stabbyness.

  97. calli

    Damn, you’ve just dropped a few rungs on my ‘esteem ladder’, Calli.

    Sorry about that, Chief.

    The Beloved is at a conference and I decided to accompany him. I am now sitting at a lovely resort eating a scrumptious breakfast and considering myself the luckiest woman on earth. Never thought I’d visit and the opportunity is too good to miss. Also will tip some moolah into the local economy with shopping.

    So far, so good.

  98. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Leigh, I think she’d figured that in the Great Win there would be plenty of protection from her little mate Shorten. In the Terrible Loss the world had changed and she chose hubby instead.

    Diss a woman for much else, but don’t diss her for caring for her man. With some self-interest too.

    That what I think. You don’t have to agree. 🙂

  99. Leigh Lowe

    I watched Meeja Watch and Q&A for the first time in 15 years last night.

    When too much schadenfreude is barely enough.

    I don’t get the feeling I have missed a lot in those 15 years, really.

  100. None

    Basically whoever becomes Labor leader now is likely to be rolled before the next election or at least be rolled before you’ll ever see a Labor p.m. again. She’s done the maths.

  101. Leigh Lowe

    I think another more likely scenario for Plibbers is that someone from Sussex Street whispered in her ear that she didn’t have the numbers, and please don’t embarrass us by having to can a wymminses in a ballot.

  102. YT

    I have a feeling that Blubbersack doesn’t want to campaign as leader. Especially when it’s easier to snipe and leak, and quietly slide the knife between the ribs 18 months into the term and ride the misogyny wave like her heroine.

  103. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Beloved is at a conference and I decided to accompany him.

    Enjoy, Calli. I have done quite a bit of that sort of thing. A helpmeet indeed, etc. 🙂

  104. EvilElvis

    Sorry about that, Chief.

    Don’t be too sorry, Calli.

    The ‘esteem ladder’ I use on the cat has only got one step. It’s either rock bottom or high and mighty!

    Looking for a quick turnaround. 😉

  105. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    she didn’t have the numbers, and please don’t embarrass us by having to can a wymminses in a ballot.

    Ah yes. That too. Avoiding her Julie Bishop moment.

  106. max

    Yes, Leigh, whatisname on Media Watch was laughable. Showing us front pages from Murdoch papers leading up to the big day to prove that Murdoch stole the election. Nothing about equivalent ABC propaganda.

  107. None

    A lista sista (Emily’s list), my body is my own, no man bosses me around, a member of the labor handbag hit squad, is sacrificing her career for a male hahaha I bet you Miranda Devine is going to have a field day with that.

  108. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Federal election 2019: tax cuts set to be delivered on time
    Treasurer Josh Frydenberg’s planned tax cuts are closer to getting the green light.

    Richard Ferguson
    Reporter
    @RichAFerguson
    26 minutes ago May 21, 2019
    No Comments

    Scott Morrison’s promised tax cuts will be delivered by the 2019-20 financial year, with the Australian Tax Office saying it can pass on the promised changes if Labor agrees to them.

    There was speculation in other media outlets this morning that the tax cuts would not be passed on as the Prime Minister said parliament was unlikely to sit before June 30.

    “Tax relief will be delivered in 2019-20 as promised,” a spokeswoman for the Prime Minister said. “And will not be delayed by a year by the parliament not sitting in June as speculated in the media today.”

    An Australian Tax Office spokesman this morning said the tax cuts could be administered retrospectively if necessary law changes are passed after June.

    And if Labor agrees to the changes before parliament returns, then the ATO could reflect the cuts in people’s tax home pay immediately.

    “Following media commentary we would like to clarify that in respect of announced tax cuts, while we do need law change there are also things we can do administratively,” he said.

    “For example, if the Labor Party agrees to support the Coalition tax cuts as announced, then we would be able to update the tax withholding schedules, to allow the tax cuts to be reflected in people’s take home pay. However, we could not issue assessments based on the tax cuts until these are passed into law.

    “If the law for these tax cuts passes after June, we could also retrospectively amend assessments to provide the tax cut once the law is passed.”

    Mr Morrison and Treasurer Josh Frydenberg will meet to discuss the economy and tax cuts as RBS governor Philip Lowe prepares to make a major speech today on the outlook for Australia.

    Mr Morrison and Mr Frydenberg will catch up in Sydney today for the first time since the Coalition’s election win on Saturday.

    Three federal seats are on a knife edge as vote counting continues and this could push back the start of parliament if the results go down to the wire. At the same time, key crossbench senators are still to pledge their support for the tax plan.

    The Australian Greens held onto all of their six Senate seats in the election and party leader Richard Di Natale says the minor party won’t support the income tax cuts.

    From the Oz. What is the likely state of the Senate?

  109. None

    We’re all just going to hate on you for about 5 seconds Calli but then expect presents when you get back.

  110. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The ‘esteem ladder’ I use on the cat has only got one step. It’s either rock bottom or high and mighty!

    Well now I know. I wondered what all of this ‘step exercise’ stuff was really about.

  111. bespoke

    I don’t think progressives care, Ƶĩppʯ that they are playing a roll in creating the alt-right. Look at Wong or numbers if its not up to there expectations they actively exacerbate the situation to prove themselves right. Cernovich made an ominous prediction that political violence with become part of normal life.

  112. EvilElvis

    The best thing is, Lizzie, there’s plenty of people at rock bottom to soften the inevitable fall. 😂

  113. None

    Haha Bowen is going to run against AlBo. Labour is going for the drip feed. Morrison can stay in power forever he doesn’t even have to touch climate change. But give it he’s so stupid he will.

  114. Diogenes

    Police are hunting teenagers who caused more than $12,000 damage during a vandalism spree at a northern beaches shopping centre on Sunday night.

    Wot is it with yoof today? In the olden days they left road signs alone when graffitiing, then some morons add a sticker “eating meat” to stop signs and that seemed to open the floodgates.

    I feel for these guys in the linked story, 25 years worth of work smashed by mindless cretinous expletive deleteds.
    Vandals trash model railway exhibition

  115. mh

    #FoxNews
    Live: Trump holds a ‘MAGA’ rally in Pennsylvania

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NNXGLuhDfFM

  116. pete m

    EvilElvis, we only need m0nty there and we’re all good.

  117. None

    And the fucken vandals were released on bail. They should have been held. It’s About Time some of those vandals got to learn there are a lot of blokes inside who like a bit of young ass like theirs.

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I will be having coffee with some girlfriends at Warriewood Square sometime later this week. The parking there is still easy and free so it’s a good place to meet. Looking forward to getting all the electoral goss from them. This previously rather run down shopping centre has recently been renovated to cope with the mass of new well-off retirees immigrating over to the beaches from the North Shore. A demographic change that may have impacted the electoral result too. My friends there are mostly long-term residents from Palmy through to Collaroy, who know the beaches, its traditions and its ‘criminal hill’ through and through.

  119. Bruce of Newcastle:

    Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it!
    Xi Sends Trump A Message: Rare-Earth Export Ban Is Coming
    It would be glorious! The biggest demand for REE these days are wind turbines and EV motors…

    Some of you would be aware that I’ve called for a Strategic Stockpile of Minerals for Australia, similar to the US model.
    We produce many of the necessary minerals suitable for stockpiling such as copper, uranium, nickel, steel. There is a case for rebuilding the National Wool Stockpile.
    The US model caters for not only war production, but for emergencies such as the proposed Chinese limitations of supply on Rare Earths.
    As Bruce mentions, the demand for REs is mainly for magnets in windmills etc. So I’m not too sure what they’re trying to do here. Are the defunct windmills that litter Californian coastlines able to be harvested for their magnets?
    As an aside, I’d like to see rail tracks stockpiled along with crossing points as these seem to have a long lead time in production. There’s no point in straining a defunct industrial system producing track that can be produced in peace time and will eventually get used anyway.

  120. None

    Ok if anyone wants to listen to the Alan Jones show this morning and tell me if I misheard that the guy who got stabby in Abbott’s electorate was an economist.

  121. Oh come on

    Rare earth isn’t particularly rare, IIRC.

  122. Leigh Lowe

    Ok if anyone wants to listen to the Alan Jones show this morning and tell me if I misheard that the guy who got stabby in Abbott’s electorate was an economist.

    Does anyone know his name or that of his employer.
    Could be time for lefty tactics to be turned on him.

  123. Eyrie

    There’s a fair amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth by the grifters and deluded fools at reneweconomy.com.au
    And not a lot of renewable energy being produced.

  124. cohenite

    Has fitzgibbin, the former milkman, even won his seat yet. The PHON guy was going well.

  125. Leigh Lowe

    Ha, ha.
    Photo of Pieman on the front of the Oz today, taking the groceries inside the front gate.
    Family sized box of Rice Bubbles and other unidentified stuff all carried in an Aussie Farms avocado box.
    Are the avocados from north of the Tweed? Were the Rice Bubbles made from Cubby Station rice?
    At least he didn’t have it all in a dolphin killer plastic bag.

  126. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Independent
    @Independent
    Opinion: Nigel Farage getting hit by a milkshake isn’t funny, it’s absolutely hilarious

    Nigel Farage getting hit by a milkshake isn’t funny, it’s absolutely…
    independent.co.uk
    1:19 AM · May 21, 2019

  127. Caveman

    Labor leadership challenge, hold my beer, im just ducking off to make more popcorn.

  128. stackja

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3021330, posted on May 21, 2019 at 10:48 am
    The Independent
    @Independent
    Opinion: Nigel Farage getting hit by a milkshake isn’t funny, it’s absolutely hilarious

    Nigel Farage getting hit by a milkshake isn’t funny, it’s absolutely…
    independent.co.uk
    1:19 AM · May 21, 2019

    On AJ this morning UK Report it was an expensive milkshake. Rich Remainer?

  129. EvilElvis

    Labor should be pushing Bowen for leadership now while the next election dynamic double dong duo of Wong & Albosleazy get their shit together. Cue cries of horror as Labor goes with an all male leadership team.

  130. OCO;

    Rare earth isn’t particularly rare, IIRC.

    That’s right, OCO. But the refining is both time and skilled labour intensive.
    I’d add titanium bar/plate, cotton and animal feed to the list as well.

  131. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    Very few people, even among environmentalists, have truly faced up to what the science is telling us.

    This is because the implications of 3C, let alone 4C or 5C, are so horrible that we look to any possible scenario to head it off, including the canvassing of “emergency” responses such as the suspension of democratic processes.

    — Clive Hamilton

  132. None

    Jim Chalmers: the first time I ever heard of him or saw him was last night on Qanda (I did tell you I had been avoiding all election material) and last night was the first time in over 10 years that I’ve watched TV no actually the second time – I did watch 5 minutes the other day. The guy thought his shit didn’t stink. He was outrageously rude and defamatory to Alan Jones basically calling him a liar on national TV and if he ever spoke to me like that I probably would have smacked him.

  133. Caveman

    Bowen puttin on the tuff act , he aint never going to shake his negative equity comment on homeowners.

  134. Roger

    Some of you would be aware that I’ve called for a Strategic Stockpile of Minerals for Australia, similar to the US model.

    Excellent idea, although presently we can’t even stockpile enough fuel to keep the country going beyond a few weeks in the event of a disruption to supply.

    File under: We are governed by idiots.

  135. None

    Leigh he didn’t mention a name and he just implied a big firm ( a bank?) but to be honest I was busy typing a report and so I may have totally misheard. But he also said something that this guy probably earns you know big money more than Average Joe which was a bit of a theme on his program this morning. He certainly needs to facing some serious consequences.

  136. notafan

    I’m been wondering this morning if Zali will attempt to join the liberal party in the next few weeks.

  137. Top Ender

    Niki Lauda has died.

    Courageous and talented racer and businessman.

  138. stackja

    None
    #3021339, posted on May 21, 2019 at 10:54 am
    Jim Chalmers

    Dr Jim Chalmers MP
    Party positions
    Various local ALP positions from 1997
    Secretary, ALP National Policy Committee 2003-04
    Rankin ALP State Conference Delegate from 2011
    Personal
    Born 2.3.1978, Brisbane, Australia
    Married
    Qualifications and occupation before entering Federal Parliament
    B.A (Griffith)
    B.Comm (Griffith)
    Ph.D (ANU)
    Research officer, Dept of Premier and Cabinet (Qld) 1999-2001
    Tutor in politics and public policy, ANU and UC 2001
    ALP National Research Manager 2002-04
    Media Adviser to the Shadow Treasurer 2005-06
    Deputy Chief of Staff to the Leader of the Opposition 2006
    Senior Adviser to the Premier of New South Wales 2006-07
    Queensland General Manager CPR 2007
    Deputy Chief of Staff and Principal Adviser to the Treasurer 2007-10
    Chief of Staff to the Deputy Prime Minister and Treasurer 2010-13
    Executive Director, Chifley Research Centre 2013

    Real world experience? Zero?

  139. Caveman

    I’m been wondering this morning if Zali will attempt to join the liberal party in the next few weeks.

    You mean like a virus.

  140. stackja

    ALP NSW leadership battle and ALP leadership battle!

  141. Infidel Tiger

    I’m been wondering this morning if Zali will attempt to join the liberal party in the next few weeks.

    Photios and Zimmerman will be angling for this.

  142. stackja

    notafan
    #3021344, posted on May 21, 2019 at 10:59 am
    I’m been wondering this morning if Zali will attempt to join the liberal party in the next few weeks.

    GetUp will not allow her?

  143. Roger

    Tanya has now shown why some women don’t get to the top. It is simple, they choose family over career.

    No, she just doesn’t have the ticker for three or even six years of leading the fight.

    Sabotage once ensconced on the Treasury benches is her style.

  144. Caveman

    Chicken girl will only give the Liberal party giblets

  145. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rare earth isn’t particularly rare, IIRC.

    Separating and purifying all the REEs is hard. Requires about 120 different solvent extraction stages. Probably a process chemist to supervise each half dozen stages. Might get away with one per dozen. So immediately you need something like 10 chemists per shift, four shift roster means 40 chemists, plus spares.

    China has lots of cheap chemists. US has lots of feminist vaginal knitting graduates.

  146. Roger

    Real world experience? Zero?

    Not quite, there was… let me see, less than a year with a private firm in 2007.

    Not a good fit?

  147. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ok if anyone wants to listen to the Alan Jones show this morning and tell me if I misheard that the guy who got stabby in Abbott’s electorate was an economist.

    It clearly wasn’t an economist.
    For an economist to stab someone with something they would first have to work out which was the sharp end.
    Absolutely impossible.

  148. stackja

    bespoke
    #3021141, posted on May 21, 2019 at 5:58 am
    Armadillo
    #3021112, posted on May 21, 2019 at 2:52 am
    Regardless, back to the point. Where does “Get Up” get its money from? For a “non political” organisation, they seem to have plenty of it. Just like all the other activist organisations around the world.

    When the MSM treats it like a none issue it becomes an excepted part of the system. Like the cash flow between unions and the ALP, not one cares and few realize how corrupting it is.

    Dutton to ask parliamentary electoral committee to investigate GetUp.

  149. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tanya rightly would think the best strategy is to lurk for 2 years 6 months then put whichever charismaless male who wins out of his misery.

    I feel a bit for Bill, he did the hard yards for years and won the right to an election as leader, despite charisma slightly lower than a two toed sloth. He would’ve won too if he hadn’t had his progressive brain explosion.

  150. Roger:

    Excellent idea, although presently we can’t even stockpile enough fuel to keep the country going beyond a few weeks in the event of a disruption to supply.

    Just a half dozen tanker loads of diesel would make a difference. Some temporary measures for holding bulk supply such as buying several ready to scrap tankers and mooring them in apropriate places would help.
    The amount of unused storage space in service stations could be used – the Stockpile Authority could lease unused or surplus tankage.
    The point is that some degree of preparedness is not difficult or overly expensive.
    During the Cold War, Soviet doctrine called for factories to place sandbags around machinery at a warning notice. Each factory had a supply of bags and a sandpile. These measures were proven to effective against nuclear explosions which were quite close to the machinery – as in a 20Kt weapon at 1000 meters. (IIRC)

  151. Leigh Lowe

    I’m been wondering this morning if Zali will attempt to join the liberal party in the next few weeks.

    Photios and Zimmerman will be angling for this.

    With Pyne and Bishop gone the heavy lifting of party room leaking will have to be picked up by someone.
    I mean, Zimmerman has international gay film festivals to attend so can’t be there all the time.

  152. Mother Lode

    Zali is stuck with the fact that she was to be Labor’s associate in a Labor government, and she would have been pleased to suddenly be involved in grown-up stuff. She could be as adolescent as she wished, forcing governments to offer her little rewards in the electorate.

    Instead she is an outsider. An outsider of the Liberal government. She is allied with the opposition who have no power really.

    I wonder if she will hobble on to the end of the term, or discover she needs to spend more time with…something.

  153. Leigh Lowe

    It clearly wasn’t an economist.
    For an economist to stab someone with something they would first have to work out which was the sharp end.

    OK.
    Don’t like you.
    Need to do you personal injury.
    Hmmm … don’t have a weapon.
    No problems … I will just assume I have a knife.

  154. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No, she just doesn’t have the ticker for three or even six years of leading the fight.

    Comment on the Oz points out that, presumably, Tanya would have been happy to serve as Deputy Prime Minister during the Shorten “Reign of Terror”, yet family reasons prevent her serving as Labor leader in Opposition?

  155. Dutton to ask parliamentary electoral committee to investigate GetUp.

    What a great shame Dutton isn’t the PM.
    ScoMo will squib it and a PM Abbott would have given GetUp taxpayers money and volunteered to march naked down the Corso as people threw shit at him.

  156. Leigh Lowe

    Again, for schadenfreude reasons, I listened to The World Today yesterday.
    Some “business representative” was on, bemoaning that we were going to miss out on “export opportunities” from renew-balls.
    Riiiight.
    Are we going to build wind tankers?
    Ship out solar power in 40 foot containers?
    What?
    We sure as shit don’t own any proprietary rights to wind or solar technology that would have the world beating a path to our door. And, even if we did, the Chinks woudl just reverse engineer it anyway.
    But the phrase got floated and not one question was asked.

  157. Stimpson J. Cat

    JC can you please take a steak sandwich to Monty’s bunker where he is hiding out from Uncle George’s hitsquads.
    He must be a shadow of his former self.
    Very concerned.

  158. Leigh Lowe

    Again, for schadenfreude reasons, I listened to The World Today yesterday.
    Some “business representative” was on (from CEDA I think), bemoaning that we were going to miss out on “export opportunities” from [email protected]
    Riiiight.
    Are we going to build wind tankers?
    Ship out solar power in 40 foot containers?
    What?
    We sure as shit don’t own any proprietary rights to wind or solar technology that would have the world beating a path to our door. And, even if we did, the Chinks woudl just reverse engineer it anyway.
    But the phrase got floated and not one question was asked.

  159. Bruce of Newcastle

    Since we’re doing rare elements…

    The Future of Helium Is Up in the Air (20 May)

    Heather Murphy at The New York Times reports that the shortage recently made headlines when Party City, the chain store perhaps best known for being the place to get bunches of helium balloons, announced the closure of 45 of its 870 stores. Many people, noting that recently some of the stores have been out or short of helium

    Main source of helium is from raw natural gas. If you stop producing nat gas to save Gaia you no longer can separate out the helium. Bad news for MRI scanners in hospitals.

    On the other hand if the left gets hydrogen cars up we won’t need helium for party balloons. Just fill ’em from any nearby car. Also if the left gets hydrogen cars up the manufacturers of blast-proof underdacks will be in clover.

  160. Leigh Lowe

    Comment on the Oz points out that, presumably, Tanya would have been happy to serve as Deputy Prime Minister during the Shorten “Reign of Terror”, yet family reasons prevent her serving as Labor leader in Opposition?

    Yes, nothing happened at home between Friday and Monday did it?
    She either has a deficiency of numbers or ticker (or a bit of both).

  161. calli

    Ok if anyone wants to listen to the Alan Jones show this morning and tell me if I misheard that the guy who got stabby in Abbott’s electorate was an economist.

    He used a corkscrew.

    Says it all.

    I will now disclose that my climageddon friend on Saturday night has an economics degree.

  162. calli

    Just to rub it in….

    I’m sitting in a deck chair overlooking the beach after dipping in the infinity edge pool.

    Tough life.

  163. Roger

    The point is that some degree of preparedness is not difficult or overly expensive.

    I agree, Winston; it seems too difficult for our politicians and the public servants who advise them, though.

  164. Roger

    I will now disclose that my climageddon friend on Saturday night has an economics degree.

    Are we supposed to be impressed?

    😉

    Seriously, if anything, that increases the odds of someone being a climate loon, does it not?

  165. mh

    Will Smith’s wife addicted to porn

    Jada Pinkett Smith reveals she once ‘had an unhealthy relationship to porn’

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jada-pinkett-smith-previous-unhealthy-relationship-porn

  166. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    JC can you please take a steak sandwich to Monty’s bunker where he is hiding out from Uncle George’s hitsquads.

    doughnuts should sniff him out

  167. Fleeced

    With 76 senators, 39 are needed to pass legislation

    Coalition will have 34

    ALP + Greens will have 36 (27 + 9)

    Coalition needs support from 5 of the remaining 6 seats:

    Jacqui Lambie: 1
    Centre Alliance (Xen’s old party): 2
    PHON: 2
    Bernardi: 1

    So, they basically have to get Centre Alliance on board. They’ll likely be gone after next senate election, so might want to make a name for themselves. For current proposed tax cuts and stuff it might actually be easier for them to get ALP to agree. They probably won’t in future.

  168. calli

    I think so, Roger. And that precious bit of sealed Sydney Uni parchment means that anyone without same is unsmart and their opinions may be dismissed.

    Life and business experience, wide and varied reading and discourse are mere bagatelles in the accreditation stakes.

  169. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    This direct wage payment was a genuine thin edge of the wedge type matter.

    Once they pay for one set of workers’ wages the call would come out for aged care workers etc etc.

    Really strange policy and amazing how little media it got about the risks it posed.

    backdoor nationalisation

  170. Bad flu season this year folks, be prepared.
    I have just read the riot act at work, if you are feeling unwell, stay home, don’t spread your viruses around.
    63 flu-related deaths so far this year.

    Very bad, flu admissions are double from last year, aged care facilities going into lock down, kids dying…
    We’re due a superflu, the last one was 1918 and killed 20-50 million and we’ve still got July which is peak flu month.

    Of course nobody is mentioning that people are more vulnerable because they can’t afford to heat their homes, weakening their respiratory systems and making them more susceptible to viruses and respiratory infection. And it’s the poor and elderly that get the brunt of all this. But remember, Labor “cares for da poor” dontchaknow!

    Like fuck they do. The left are doing the one and only thing they are brilliant at – killing people. Who needs a superflu when you have the left? Not even nature can beat them.

  171. calli

    So, fleeced, we have pretty much the same situation as 2013.

    Great. Now watch these Senate half-wits stymie anything moderately useful.

    Deja vu all over again.

  172. Infidel Tiger

    For current proposed tax cuts and stuff it might actually be easier for them to get ALP to agree.

    That was my thought too.

  173. stackja

    Sally McManus ticks a lot of boxes. Bob Hawke ticked a lot of boxes too.

  174. stackja

    Zali Steggall and GetUp reminds me of the song Sixteen Tons:

    You load sixteen tons, what do you get?
    Another day older and deeper in debt
    Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go
    I owe my soul to the company store

  175. Roger

    For current proposed tax cuts and stuff it might actually be easier for them to get ALP to agree.

    Gladstone man will be haunting Albo for the next three years.

  176. Infidel Tiger

    Sally McManus ticks a lot of boxes.

    Did you say “ticks”?

  177. Fleeced

    So, fleeced, we have pretty much the same situation as 2013.

    Yeah. Libs have more senators themselves, but the senate won’t have Burston, Leyonhjelm, Anning – who were part of a “conservative bloc” with Bernardi.

    Even if they get Jacqui on board for stuff, they’d need at least one of the CA losers… so might be easier to write her off and deal with them exclusively. The senate president still votes, so no bribery option available, either.

  178. stackja

    calli
    #3021391, posted on May 21, 2019 at 11:45 am
    So, fleeced, we have pretty much the same situation as 2013.

    Great. Now watch these Senate half-wits stymie anything moderately useful.

    Deja vu all over again.

    Double dissolution on tax cuts? Voters want tax cuts? They will know who to vote for.

  179. Coalition needs support from 5 of the remaining 6 seats:
    Jacqui Lambie: 1
    Centre Alliance (Xen’s old party): 2
    PHON: 2
    Bernardi: 1

    Great.
    So basically to get anything through, taxpayers will be funding boondoggles in Serf Australia.
    Battery powered monorail down Rundle Mall, a new sculpture to commemorate their serial killers called The Big Barrel and a swimming pool in every backyard.

  180. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can I just say a great big thank you, and congratulations, to the writers of Game of Thrones for offering the most realistic and true to life depiction of exactly what happens every time a Women receives any actual Power to change things for the better.

    Well Done!!!!

    Bravo!!!
    😁

  181. feelthebern

    APRA cans the 7% serviceability requirement.
    Off to the races.

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Great.
    So basically to get anything through, taxpayers will be funding boondoggles in Serf Australia.
    Battery powered monorail down Rundle Mall, a new sculpture to commemorate their serial killers called The Big Barrel and a swimming pool in every backyard

    Don’t forget funding the mendicant State of Tasmania, to keep ex – Elephant Tracker Jacqui Lambie on side.

  183. Fleeced

    Double dissolution on tax cuts?

    Not worth the risk. Centre Alliance is unlikely to get up again at nexy senate election UNLESS it’s a DD. With them gone, you’ll likely get another PHON and either Lib or ALP in place.

  184. mh

    Greens get 9 senators?

    That is disgusting.

  185. Bruce of Newcastle

    So, they basically have to get Centre Alliance on board.

    Xenocide’s bunch are climate tragics. They’re probably furious right now. Don’t expect much cooperation.

    2019 Election Statement by Rebekha Sharkie (19 May)

    “When I go back to Canberra, I will be advocating for stronger policies on climate action, a Federal Royal Commission on the River Murray, protections for the Great Australian Bight and a Federal corruption watchdog.

    They’ve noticeably reduced their catastropharianism since last election though, when their policy was 50% renewables by 2025. So maybe I’m wrong.

  186. Fleeced

    Don’t forget funding the mendicant State of Tasmania, to keep ex – Elephant Tracker Jacqui Lambie on side.

    No need. Even with her support they fall one short. They don’t need her.

    I mean, best not to piss her off completely, just in case (Libs do have a tendency to burn their bridges before they’ve even crossed them), but no need to suck up, either.

  187. stackja

    GoT star ‘flabbergasted’ by ending
    SPOILER WARNING. Fans weren’t the only ones shocked by GoT’s finale, with one actor saying it “comes out of f**king nowhere”.

  188. stackja

    mh
    #3021408, posted on May 21, 2019 at 12:00 pm
    Greens get 9 senators?

    That is disgusting.

    Greens voters disgusting?

  189. Fleeced

    Greens get 9 senators?

    6 in current round, yeah. One in every state. Combined with their 3 existing, they have 9 senators.

    Ugh… they might have 12 after the net election. Doesn’t bare thinking about.

  190. Mark A

    calli
    #3021391, posted on May 21, 2019 at 11:45 am

    So, fleeced, we have pretty much the same situation as 2013.

    Great. Now watch these Senate half-wits stymie anything moderately useful.

    On that theme, do you really think we need new laws-regulations of any kind?
    Why not just adjourn parliament and go home?

    I’m positive that for any conceivable complaint or misdemeanor there is an appropriate legislation to deal with already.

  191. bespoke

    calli
    #3021387, posted on May 21, 2019 at 11:42 am
    I think so, Roger. And that precious bit of sealed Sydney Uni parchment means that anyone without same is unsmart and their opinions may be dismissed.

    Life and business experience, wide and varied reading and discourse are mere bagatelles in the accreditation stakes.

    There is still plenty of low skilled work to be had. My frustration not only welfare enabling, its the denigration of such work particularly by people complaining at the same time that we have to out source to get those jobs done.

  192. Bruce of Newcastle

    And that precious bit of sealed Sydney Uni parchment means that anyone without same is unsmart and their opinions may be dismissed.

    Oi, Calli! I have two UniSyd parchments on the wall of my nefarious HQ. I’ve never been to Bali but.

  193. Infidel Tiger

    Greens get 9 senators?

    That is disgusting.

    Malcolm’s Senate voting reforms guarantee they always will until their vote drops significantly.

  194. stackja

    ALP upset over “Sunshine Coast Daily newspaper published a picture of Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk in crosshairs”

  195. Roger

    Anecdotal report on ABC Brisbane radio yesterday evening of CFMMEU construction site workers quietly celebrating the election result while the site union rep was at home “sulking”.

  196. calli

    I was right. Just like that Doobie’s song, we’ve cheated the hangman all right.

    But we are ghosts, not knowing we are ghosts. Can’t do a thing to stop the fall, just a short repreive.

    Unless there is some change from outside the antipodean bubble of impotence.

  197. Knuckle Dragger

    The councillors of the City of Yarra are clearly the tge most accomplished bunch of retarded cretins ever assembled.

    Not satisfied with the current monumental disaster that is the Richmond injecting room, with even more human shit shooting up and rooting outside in front of primary school kids, including their own staff, and wasring ambo time on more than 700 overdosers who should have been thrown into the nearest industrial bin to die:

    Cr Stephen Jolly now wants to give these net zero contributors FREE drugs. That’ll show them.

    And if that wasn’t enough, a bigger injecting room with longer hours is opening in the same area mid-year.

    They should just turn it into a morgue/woodchipper/compost facility.

  198. Leigh Lowe

    Roger

    #3021378, posted on May 21, 2019 at 11:36 am

    I will now disclose that my climageddon friend on Saturday night has an economics degree.

    Does Sinc have an alibi?
    He never like Tone.

  199. On that theme, do you really think we need new laws-regulations of any kind?
    Why not just adjourn parliament and go home?

    Coz there’s a whole lotta laws need to be abolished.
    & I don’t just mean stuff like an automobile must be preceded by a person carrying a red flag & ringing a bell.

  200. calli

    Ah, yes. But Bruce, you’ve got yours from the righteous Shepherd Street end.

    😀

  201. Stimpson J. Cat

    Does Sinc have an alibi?
    He never like Tone.

    Definitely not.
    If it was Sinc it would have been a Mankini garotte.

  202. Fleeced

    Malcolm’s Senate voting reforms guarantee they always will until their vote drops significantly.

    Hmmm… perhaps some more voting reforms that favour minor parties other than the Greens (and at their expense) could get through.

    A plausible excuse: “People are confused having to number six boxes. We need to return to them being allowed to mark just one.”

    I’m a big fan of optional preferential, though. I like that it lets you exhaust your vote when voting below the line. Oddly, if you’re still going to have to number at least 6 boxes above the line, why bother having above the line votes? You could shrink the size of the ballot paper without reducing the field.

  203. gingerbeer

    Niki Lauda … legend !

    RIP

  204. cohenite

    China has lots of cheap chemists. US has lots of feminist vaginal knitting graduates.

    And:

    Also if the left gets hydrogen cars up the manufacturers of blast-proof underdacks will be in clover.

    You’re in fine form today BON.

  205. calli

    I was thinking repeals, Mark A.

    I live in hope.

  206. Mother Lode

    Enlightening headline at Drudge:

    41% of college students believe hate speech not protected under First Amendment…

    I am prepared to go even further and speculate that these 41% could not consider that something they say might offend someone else and therefore be construed as hate speech.

    There is another headline over there where one of Obama’s Federal judges has declared that the Democrats are entitled to subpoena Trump’s financial records. Among the comments there are such pearls of wisdom as the claim that Trump has ‘broken every law in the book’ – although that begs the question: Why would the Democrats need to go on a fishing expedition if they had breaches of law at hand.

    But I can’t help thinking that the person making the ‘every law in the book’ claim is one of the aforementioned ‘41%’.

  207. C.L.

    Top end of town latest …

    Labor’s lavish last supper before crushing loss.

    Queensland king prawns, salted caramel espresso martinis, massages at their desk – the Labor high command were in a mood for celebrating on election eve.

    Twenty-four hours later they would be crushed by a stunning loss to an opponent that had spent the final day racing through three electorates and two states in a last minute sprint to snatch victory from an almost certain defeat.

    The blame-game inside Labor is now in full swing, with many pointing squarely at its national HQ in Sydney’s Parramatta.

    On Friday, they booked out one of the area’s most expensive restaurants, Sahra by the River, and followed up the prawns, barramundi and kafta with “kick-ons” at cocktail bar Alex & Co, according to internal messages seen by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.

    A staff member was hired to play the trumpet… They sang Solidarity Forever.

    Labor HQ was stocked with free beers from Carlton and United Breweries. They had a lottery to win massages at their desk on Fridays.

  208. Some History

    Top end of town latest …

    The workings of the Labor Camp.

  209. Infidel Tiger

    Laura Jayes

    Verified account

    @ljayes

    If only @SenatorWong was in the lower house. One of the most impressive people in Parliament.

    Hahaha!

    They just don’t get it.

  210. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Hey, Arky. Does your machinist live under power lines? Sounds like my stomping ground. :0)

  211. Some History

    If only @SenatorWong was in the lower house. One of the most impressive people in Parliament.

    Benny’s best work is in the out house.

  212. Mark A

    calli
    #3021434, posted on May 21, 2019 at 12:18 pm

    I was thinking repeals, Mark A.


    I live in hope.

    Yes I was thinking about that when posted but then came down to earth and opted for a more likely, albeit a still impossible, scenario.

  213. Bruce of Newcastle

    Musing on Laboristas munching Queensland king prawns washed down on salted caramel espresso martinis, in the bunker as ScoMo’s armoured divisions arrive, is glorious schadenfreude.

  214. Roger

    Rowe’s caricatures are so bad he has to label them.

  215. will

    Roger
    #3021352, posted on May 21, 2019 at 11:05 am
    Tanya has now shown why some women don’t get to the top. It is simple, they choose family over career.

    No, she just doesn’t have the ticker for three or even six years of leading the fight.

    Sabotage once ensconced on the Treasury benches is her style.

    I would speculate that someone is Sussex St has told her that having a convicted heroin dealer as a spouse is too much baggage for the soft sell on Sunrise and Womens Weekly.

  216. mh

    Infidel Tiger
    #3021418, posted on May 21, 2019 at 12:08 pm
    Greens get 9 senators?

    That is disgusting.

    Malcolm’s Senate voting reforms guarantee they always will until their vote drops significantly.

    I detect an Arthur Sinodinis hand in there.

  217. Caveman

    How does Jayes hold a job at Sky? Wong has such a dark heart.

  218. Bruce of Newcastle

    If only @SenatorWong was in the lower house. One of the most impressive people in Parliament.

    Hahaha!

    She could do the Night King role without makeup.

  219. calli

    I would love to do a poolside straw poll here amidst much…much conspicuous consumption to see how many believed the Climate Scam.

    I expect I would be horrified.

  220. Some History

    Queensland king prawns, salted caramel espresso martinis, massages at their desk – the Labor high command were in a mood for celebrating on election eve.

    https://imgur.com/Lr7saYE

    The Labor Camp was feasting it up big time in the lead up to the election. And then Bada Bing, Bada Boom.

  221. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The councillors of the City of Yarra are clearly the tge most accomplished bunch of retarded cretins ever assembled.

    Fremantle City Council is running a close second. Their latest brainfart is to give the City and the Swan River alternative Aboriginal names – “Walyalup” and “Derbari Yerrigan”- as if anyone gives a rodent’s ringpiece.

  222. BoN, your presence is required on the other thread.

  223. bespoke

    When I was with crews the status given to ones with cert’s even unrelated to the job by others was amusing. So credentialism it happens at the lower end of town.

  224. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cotton is racist.

    (I suppose that means using nitric acid to convert cotton into nitrocellulose is genocide.)

  225. duncanm

    Not sure why anyone thinks China shutting off RE exports to the US will affect smart phones.

    Most of the manufactured components come from China (or TW). Nobody is using US-made smartphones.

  226. Mother Lode

    I would speculate that someone is Sussex St has told her that having a convicted heroin dealer as a spouse is too much baggage for the soft sell on Sunrise and Womens Weekly.

    Not that Sunrise and the Weekly wouldn’t do their best.

  227. Some History

    And then Bada Bing, Bada Boom.

    https://imgur.com/1B7cGJZ

  228. Leigh Lowe

    Caveman

    #3021457, posted on May 21, 2019 at 12:48 pm

    How does Jayes hold a job at Sky? Wong has such a dark heart.

    Fucking hell, Jayes had the lemon-sucking face deployed on Saturday night.
    She and Paul Murray were covering the Libs camp.
    Murray was trying to convey the excitement of the win, but she just stood there stony faced in her ill-fitting jacket.
    Pretty sure she had her “climate is the winner, old white men are the losers” speech all set to go.

  229. Bruce of Newcastle

    BoN, your presence is required on the other thread.

    Sorry, Inco, I won’t contribute on that question. I think most of the CO2 increase we see in Cape Grim pCO2 graph etc is anthropogenic. However the exchange chemistry with the bicarbonate in the ocean is so fast that the 18C/16C ratio is homogenised so that it looks less anthopogenic than it is.

    I don’t engage in such discussions since in my calculation 2XCO2 is well below 1 C/doubling therefore harmless. It is harmless whether anthropogenic or purely inorganic.

  230. notafan

    I expect I would be horrified.

    But not at all surprised

  231. Caveman

    Jayes had the lemon-sucking face deployed on Saturday night.

    I noticed that , I honestly thought PM brought her there to perform an exorcisim.

  232. notafan

    I’m thinking of having a pie for lunch

    A hot one.

    Where where where is Billy?

  233. Leigh Lowe

    OK, so getting stuff through the Senate might be tough.
    Two things.
    Firstly, from looking down the barrel last Friday of lots more “rainbow flag” type celebrations in both houses as the BigEnderTown got whacked, and Alex Turnbull’s mates filled their pockets to bulging with the proceeds, on balance, I am not unhappy with control of the Reps and a slightly sticky Senate.
    Secondly, the Libs need to learn some tactics. Keep pushing the legislation up and get it knocked back twice, so that they have heaps of DD triggers in the locker. Cross-bench Senators shit themselves at the thought that their 6 year gravy train might be over in two, and will eventually fall into line. If not, and Labor has a major implosion in two years time, call the DD and go for it. Trumble hated the “embarassment” of defeat in the Senate, so wouldn’t put stuff up even once to be knocked back. FFS, the voters understand that, if you don’t control the Senate you can only do you best. They don’t see it as failure.

  234. Mater

    Anecdotal report on ABC Brisbane radio yesterday evening of CFMMEU construction site workers quietly celebrating the election result while the site union rep was at home “sulking”.

    They were my best indication to put some money on!

    Mater
    #2986500, posted on April 13, 2019 at 8:19 am

    Spent last evening socialising with two rusted on Labor blokes, one a full blown march-in-the-street, fist-in-the-air, CFMEU man from way back.
    Both of them (but separately): “I don’t think the country can afford a Bill Shorten government this time around”, or words to that effect.
    You could have knocked me over with a feather, twice.

    Hey Tailgunner, what are the odds of a Liberal victory running at?

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