Monday Forum: May 21, 2019

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  1. “bespoke
    #3023580, posted on May 23, 2019 at 3:39 pm”

    I watched Bernardi on PML…..I think he looked tired, disappointed and resigned. There’s no fire in him.

  2. notafan

    Us agnostics have a bet each way

    How does that work bespoke?

  3. There’s a quote about atheism that I like…..”it’s akin to being locked in a room with no windows”. I’m glad I’m not an atheist.

  4. JC

    It doesn’t appear he’s running anything.

    Nobody home at Alex Turnbull’s Singapore hedge fund

    And we return now to failed anti-Liberal warrior Alex Turnbull – fitting, given he’s just returned to Twitter after a brief, post-election interregnum.

    No bit actor in Australian politics has made a greater tool of themselves in recent months than the immediate past prime minister’s eldest child.

  5. Mark A

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3023586, posted on May 23, 2019 at 3:51 pm

    “bespoke
    #3023580, posted on May 23, 2019 at 3:39 pm”

    I watched Bernardi on PML…..I think he looked tired, disappointed and resigned. There’s no fire in him.

    There never was any fire in him to begin with.
    He became an accidental senator by appointment way back and continued on by clinging to the tailcoats of the LNP.

    By training and temperament, the man is most suited to be a bureaucrat, not a politician.

  6. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    The Rudd government and Gillard governments have extremely impressive records. In fact in 2012 we’ve had the second most pages of legislation passed in Commonwealth parliamentary history, and this is despite a supposedly unworkable hung parliament. … Both Rudd and Gillard are good communicators. Rudd was an excellent communicator with the public and Gillard was better within the parliament and caucus.

    — Bronwyn Hinz

  7. Bar Beach Swimmer

    John Comnenus
    #3023303, posted on May 23, 2019 at 9:57 am
    Did anyone catch Bowen bleating last night about the ALP reconnecting with people of faith AKA christians? Clearly the Folau issue and Shorten’s attempt to use it backfired spectacularly. How is the ARU going with viewers and ticket sales? Anyone know?

    John, can’t ever remember Bowen coming to the defence of PoF? To me it sounded more like him not wanting to be blamed for the loss, now that the chief sale team has gone – ‘if you don’t like our policies, don’t vote for us!’ Thus heading off any relegation to a minor role.

  8. Black Ball

    Bendigo Art Gallery are having an exhibition ‘Tudors To Windsors’ in the near future. Looks like a good thing to have a squizz at. Lizzie as I have SFA knowledge on royalty and such matters, and reading your work you are pretty good at this stuff, what would be things to look out for?

  9. bespoke

    I watched Bernardi on PML…..I think he looked tired, disappointed and resigned. There’s no fire in him.

    A reflection of reality Cassie, Will see if he’s learn’t some ticks next time. Like Tom’s suggestion of raising more cash for adverting.

  10. areff

    At leftoid Overland (which survives only on the taxpayers’ forced largesse), this appraisal of Saturday’s events:

    https://overland.org.au/2019/05/to-the-australian-climate-activists-in-the-aftermath-of-this-election/

    With every coal mine built, with every kilojoule of gas extracted, with every investor who refuses to move money out of carbon and into renewables and now with the re-election of the Coalition government, the chances of preventing a global fascist climate crisis horror show in which millions will perish are reduced. We absolutely need to limit the catastrophe we are hurtling towards and time is rapidly running out.

    Move over, Right Wing Death Beast, the Global Fascist Climate Crisis Horror Show now rules

  11. Fleeced

    The latest talking point I’ve seen trialled is that the Liberals got less first preference votes than ALP. They are, of course, ignoring Liberal Nationals (as well as Nationals). These people vote.

    Sad.

  12. zyconoclast

    New alternatives may ease demand for scarce rare-earth permanent magnets

    “We have developed new ways to better predict which materials make good magnets,” says Thomas Lograsso, Ph.D., who led the team. “Experimentally, we can ‘rehabilitate’ near-magnet systems, called paramagnets. We start with alloys or compounds that have all the right properties to be ferromagnetic at room temperature. Many times, these materials have high proportions of iron or cobalt.”

  13. bespoke

    For me nota, I believe in evolution but I’m not an expert. And when I ask my religious friends they say just do the best you can and let God decide.

  14. zyconoclast

    Remember this?

    After a months-long review, independent investigators said that they were unable to determine whether Gov. Ralph Northam himself was in the racist photo that appeared in his 1984 yearbook. The investigation, carried out by the McGuireWoods law firm at the behest of Eastern Virginia Medical School, stated on Wednesday, “With respect to the photograph on Governor Northam’s personal page, we could not conclusively determine the identity of either individual depicted in the Photograph.”

  15. Fleeced

    Siro and Alexa are sexist, says UN.

    A report released Wednesday by the UN’s culture and science organisation raises concerns about what it describes as the “hardwired subservience” built into default female-voiced assistants operated by Apple, Amazon, Google and Microsoft.

    Some people worry that AI will be our downfall. With idiots like this, perhaps it should be.

  16. “bespoke
    #3023598, posted on May 23, 2019 at 4:08 pm
    I watched Bernardi on PML…..I think he looked tired, disappointed and resigned. There’s no fire in him.

    A reflection of reality Cassie, Will see if he’s learn’t some ticks next time. Like Tom’s suggestion of raising more cash for adverting.”

    I don’t think it is even that….I think he has woken up to the fact that many people returned to the coalition last Saturday. Perhaps he should think about returning to the Liberals. Does anyone know how Sophie York and Riccardo are going here in NSW?

  17. The latest talking point I’ve seen trialled is that the Liberals got less first preference votes than ALP.

  18. zyconoclast

    IQ rates are dropping in many developed countries and that doesn’t bode well for humanity

    An intelligence crisis could undermine our problem-solving capacities and dim the prospects of the global economy.

    People are getting dumber. That’s not a judgment; it’s a global fact. In a host of leading nations, IQ scores have started to decline.

  19. zyconoclast

    Bond actor* ‘killed by chemsex drug overdose after meeting fraudster on Grindr’

    *Yes I did read the 4th line, but it is worth looking at for the freak value.

  20. Zatara

    “With respect to the photograph on Governor Northam’s personal page, we could not conclusively determine the identity of either individual depicted in the Photograph.”

    I guess the fact that he already admitted it was him wasn’t considered.

  21. The latest talking point I’ve seen trialled is that the Liberals got less first preference votes than ALP.

    Which is, in fact, correct, if you’re talking about the Liberals as an individual party.
    If you’re talking about the Coalition, it isn’t, but if you combine the ALP vote with the Greens (and called it a Coalition), the LNP Coalition polled 225728 less first preference votes than Labor and the Greens combined.
    You won’t read that on any of Murdoch’s rags.

  22. Derp

    “With respect to the photograph on Governor Northam’s personal page, we could not conclusively determine the identity of either individual depicted in the Photograph.”

    That’s shifting the goalposts. Even he said he was in that pic as did several others.

  23. JC

    Siro and Alexa are sexist, says UN.

    Siri has a very sexy voice.

  24. Fleeced

    Perhaps he should think about returning to the Liberals.

    Libs don’t let you be a member of two parties, and I believe they have a ten year ban if you’ve stood as a candidate with another party. Party absorption might do the trick, but not sure how members would feel about that.

    Does anyone know how Sophie York and Riccardo are going here in NSW?

    Dreadfully.

    In NSW, on first prefs:

    1. LNP (38.9%)
    2. ALP (29.9%)
    3. Greens (8.6%)
    4. PHON (5.1%)
    5. Shooters (2.6%)
    6. HEMP (2.1%)
    7. LDP (1.8%)
    8. CDP (1.6%)
    9. UAP (1.4%)
    10. Animal Justice Party (1.0%)
    11. Rise Up Australia (0.7%)
    12. Independents for Climate Action Now (0.6%)
    13. Democratic Labor Party (0.5%)
    14. Australian Conservatives (0.5%)

    Some minor parties might benefit from running a joint ticket in future elections – but AC isn’t worth negotiating with on the matter.

    They’re finished, I suspect.

  25. Derp

    The latest talking point I’ve seen trialled is that the Liberals got less first preference votes than ALP.

    No biggie. Neither of the major parties get my first preference vote. No $2.75 for those ingrates from me.

  26. zyconoclast

    Rich white men rule America. How much longer will we tolerate that?

    Minority rule has always been a feature of American democracy. These days, however, it is getting worse

    Alabama, we’ve just seen what the opposite of democracy looks like: 25 white male Republicans in the state senate were able to ban almost all abortion in the state…

    …There is no reason to respect the legitimacy of this kind of political decision…

    …The constitution itself is an outrageously undemocratic document…

  27. Fleeced

    Oh gawd, Numbers is actually running with the talking point. It was just a few numpties on SM pushing it – not even mainstream hacks are running with it.

    …if you combine the ALP vote with the Greens (and called it a Coalition)…

    But they’re not. Perhaps they should be. You should suggest it to them.

  28. notafan

    DLP, ALA (whatever they call themselves) and AC should amalgamate

    but they won’t because of certain pigheadery

  29. Fleeced

    Neither of the major parties get my first preference vote. No $2.75 for those ingrates from me.

    FWIW Derp, they didn’t get mine either.

  30. bespoke

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3023608, posted on May 23, 2019 at 4:22 pm

    Perhaps he should think about returning to the Liberals. Does anyone know how Sophie York and Riccardo are going here in NSW?

    Sure but if LNP shows no sine of change what good will it do. Must have been a reason his base did’t join one of the other party’s. If he do’s it’ll be seen as a betrayal and his critics will have field day flipping again.

  31. Diogenes

    If you’re talking about the Coalition, it isn’t, but if you combine the ALP vote with the Greens (and called it a Coalition), the LNP Coalition polled 225728 less first preference votes than Labor and the Greens combined.
    You won’t read that on any of Murdoch’s rags.

    We won’t because it is mendacious nonsense.
    Can you point me to the press release where Labour and Greens had signed a formal coalition agreement, or where the ALP had made the head of the Greens their deputy, and offered ministries to teh greens ?
    No ?
    Come on you said they were a coalition !

    I do nor remember reading that Labor and the Greens had signed a coalition agreement, or agreed on

  32. Sheer bastardry by the EU and the British Government, both of who created the financial climate that will see 25,000 people put out of work, and the destruction of an essential part of the GB industrial base.

    The collapse of British Steel is a direct consequence of sheer bastardry, but by the Brexiteers rather than the EU and the British government.
    It won’t be the last.

  33. stackja

    Hunter, NSW
    Candidate Party Votes Margin This election (%) Previous election (%) Swing (%) Status
    BONDS, Stuart Pauline Hanson’s One Nation 19,855 21.75 +21.75

    19,855 in ALP seat.

  34. notafan

    More gratuitious nonsense from

    Mr Mine Mine Mine

  35. Nob

    1735099
    #3023616, posted on May 23, 2019 at 4:30 pm
    if you combine the ALP vote with the Greens (and called it a Coalition).

    Sounds like a terrific strategy.

    Make it happen.

  36. feelthebern

    if you combine the ALP vote with the Greens (and called it a Coalition).

    & if your uncle had a vag, he’d be your aunt.
    but he doesn’t.
    so he isn’t.

  37. Fleeced

    If he do’s it’ll be seen as a betrayal and his critics will have field day flipping again.

    Indeed, bespoke. Even if he could get around the barriers, it would finish him. He’d be a lame duck senator, even if he somehow secured a safe position on the ballot.

    He basically has to run strong for the next three years in the hop of getting re-elected himself.

    The other option is for senate cross-benchers who hold the balance in the senate to negotiate a reversal of Turnbull’s electoral changes. Of course, a good ballot position can always help, too. He might get lucky.

  38. stackja

    Fleeced
    #3023620, posted on May 23, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    PHON and Shooters get lots of free publicity. AC only had Sophie on 2GB that was aware of.

  39. Mater

    & if your uncle had a vag, he’d be your aunt.
    but he doesn’t.
    so he isn’t.

    C’mon Lads, take it easy on Bob. He’s distressed.
    Australia just rejected the cure for cancer.

  40. Eyrie

    Of course IQ’s are dropping in First World countries. They are being invaded by low IQ third world savages.

  41. Fleeced

    Heh… people are getting outraged about Abbott’s pension, now.

    I mean, it’s a racket, but one all former PMs get (and all MPs first elected before 2004).

  42. zyconoclast

    West Point is about to graduate its largest class of black women

    Thirty-four black women are expected to graduate from West Point next week.

    “More than 950 cadets are expected to graduate from the U.S. Military Academy and be commissioned as second lieutenants in the US Army,” according to the release.

  43. stackja

    Australian business leaders say reducing energy costs while caring for environment must be priority
    Mandy Squires, News Corp Australia Network
    May 23, 2019 2:10pm
    Subscriber only

    Chief Executive of the Australian Industry Group Innes Willox said action had to be taken to reduce greenhouse gas emissions but it needed to be done in a way which did not weaken the economy.

    Business Council of Australia chief executive Jennifer Westacott said “sensible solutions” to driving down energy prices and dealing with climate change, were needed and CEO of MYOB Tim Reed stressed a long-term plan that delivered both lower emissions and energy costs was urgently needed.

    “This is achievable, but requires policy certainty. This will require a new form of leadership and bipartisan collaboration which has been absent in the past 10 years,” Mr Reed said.

    For Peter Allen, the CEO of Australian retail and property giant Scentre Group – the company behind Westfield shopping centres – stable government is all-important.

    “Certainty of leadership is critical for consumer confidence and business investment. I hope the new Government remains focused on long-term fiscal management of the country so we continue to attract investment, remain competitive and develop the skills and capabilities we need to enable this,” Mr Allen said.

    He added immigration was a key driver of Australia’s economic growth and competitiveness.

  44. It was just a few numpties on SM pushing it – not even mainstream hacks are running with it.

    Here are some more “talking points” which happen to be statements of fact
    1. More Australians voted Labor than any other single party.
    2. There was a −0.3% swing against the Coalition nationwide.
    3. So far, only 4 seats have actually changed hands.

  45. Dr Faustus

    Nobody home at Alex Turnbull’s Singapore hedge fund

    Not much in the tin = not much to do.

  46. notafan

    Tony is the least rich former PM evah

    Lets see if he amasses millions like certain of his predecessors

    Personally I’m very pleased that his loss has resulted in a substantial pay rise for him

    anything that has luvvies wailing and gnashing their teeth

    I bet the same ones had nothing to say about Juliar or Rudd or Keating or Hawkey or Gough’s pensions

  47. Black Ball

    Senator Dodson said he believed a reforming, visionary agenda had been destroyed with lies and creating fear, and a “misperception” of what Labor stood for.

    What these apparent lies are in Pat Dodson’s world are never explained. Did this jerk get into the Senate? What have blokes like this ever done to alleviate suffering in Aboriginal people, to lift education standards, health etc? Blokes like Dodson want more misery heaped upon blacks otherwise he would be out of a job.

  48. Nob

    1735099
    #3023631, posted on May 23, 2019 at 4:40 pm
    Sheer bastardry by the EU and the British Government, both of who created the financial climate that will see 25,000 people put out of work, and the destruction of an essential part of the GB industrial base.

    The collapse of British Steel is a direct consequence of sheer bastardry, but by the Brexiteers rather than the EU and the British government.
    It won’t be the last

    British Steel was sold for £1 in 2016, when steel prices were much higher than now, so not exactly a success story pre-Brexit.. They’ve sucked up loads of government assistance since then but also had to pay out £100m+ to the EU under the ETS, which UK government has pledged to remain part of despite Brexit, if that ever even happens.

    At least EU rules will prevent any bail out or nationalisation.

  49. We won’t because it is mendacious nonsense.

    No – it’s fact, but Newsorp won’t publish it because it’s not their current editorial spiel.

    Come on you said they were a coalition !

    You can’t read.
    What I actually said –

    If you’re talking about the Coalition, it isn’t, but if you combine the ALP vote with the Greens (and called it a Coalition), the LNP Coalition polled 225728 less first preference votes than Labor and the Greens combined.

    Catallaxy – verballing central….

  50. notafan

    Okay then if the LNP coalition votes in QLD don’t get included in the ‘numbers’ you need to uncount the ALP votes in QLD too

    you ran with this crap yesterday

    Nasty little stupid game planner as always

  51. IQ rates are dropping in many developed countries …

    Well, I am away quite often these days.
    What did you expect?

  52. cohenite

    stackja

    #3023643, posted on May 23, 2019 at 4:55 pm

    Australian business leaders say reducing energy costs while caring for environment must be priority
    Mandy Squires, News Corp Australia Network
    May 23, 2019 2:10pm
    Subscriber only

    Chief Executive of the Australian Industry Group Innes Willox said action had to be taken to reduce greenhouse gas emissions but it needed to be done in a way which did not weaken the economy.

    Weak bastards; they’re like the consortium behind the rejected Rocky Hill coal mine near Gloucester which did not even dispute the IPCC rubbish submitted as evidence by the filth who ran the case before the former EDO judge.

  53. feelthebern

    The good thing is the most Reverend McTiltyhead won’t get any taxpayer dosh because his vote was so low.
    He would have been looking to add to his cash pile the oil chaps gave him a couple of years back.

  54. bespoke

    notafan
    #3023624, posted on May 23, 2019 at 4:35 pm
    Why is evolution a sticking point?

    No it isn’t that’s why I’m not an atheist. Cheer for the video it was interesting.

  55. Chris

    Cory looked shagged? So he should as he has just worked his guts out for the election. How does Custard look?

    But for me, I am perfectly clear that this election the Libs got a lot of us back as votes (not donations or volunteers or membership) because of the alternative.

    Now how should we respond to a ‘slightly less insane than the other lot’ government?

  56. What Hanson said.
    What actually happened.
    Another story unreported by Newscorp, and no apology from Hanson.

  57. Bruce of Newcastle

    Senator Dodson said he believed a reforming, visionary agenda had been destroyed with lies and creating fear, and a “misperception” of what Labor stood for.

    So the fact that the “visionary agenda” was totally bonkers, ridiculously expensive, big taxing and much of it actually technically impossible, had nothing to do with the ALP’s loss?

    If Sen. Dodson wants to keep his head in the sand, fine. But don’t make the rest of us have to join you sir.

  58. Steve trickler

    On the beat coppers in the UK would be privately seething with the orders given of late….they’ve no choice but to follow them. With that said, they are a piss weak police force in the eyes of the world.



  59. C.L.

    Geoffrey Rush awarded $2.9 million.
    And his barrister wants further action against the Telegraph for further, deliberate defamations:

    Mr Rush’s barrister Sue Chrystanthou today told the court there was an offer to settle for $50,000.

    Nationwide News instead mounted a truth defence.

    Ms Chrystanthou began pressing for an injunction at a hearing a fortnight ago, accusing the paper of attacking the court’s decision after it had vindicated her client.

    Today she told the court where an “indefensible” defamation had been published, an injunction should follow.

    Ms Chrystanthou said the Telegraph’s reporting of the matter after last month’s decision went beyond fair and accurate reports of the proceedings and had repeated the allegations.

    “This is a respondent that is irrational when it comes to my client, has shown disrespect for the court’s decision and cannot be trusted to abide by the court’s ruling as far as these imputations are concerned,” Mr Chrystanthou said.

    ABC.

  60. Steve trickler

    Vicpol is not far behind.

  61. bespoke

    1735099 just bitter that ’15 mil’ in taxes he payed didn’t get him a fully equipped mobile hospital out side his house.

  62. Natural Instinct

    On election night, Mr Warren Snowdon (ALP) was interviewed and the reporter asked whether he felt confident given the initial polling showed Jacinta Price was in with a chance. He said that he wasn’t worried as the remote communities would vote 90% to him.
    Say what?
    I wonder what it means if a polling place/booth gets over 70% one way?
    What about over 90%, one way?
    .
    Try Lingiari, NT The remote teams represent 34% of the electorate.
    .
    93%…Remote Mobile Team 12
    92%…Remote Mobile Team 14
    90%…Remote Mobile Team 13
    90%…Remote Mobile Team 15
    89%…Remote Mobile Team 6
    87%…Remote Mobile Team 5
    86%…Remote Mobile Team 21
    83%…Remote Mobile Team 11
    79%…Remote Mobile Team 10
    77%…Remote Mobile Team 1
    77%…Remote Mobile Team 20
    77%…Remote Mobile Team 16
    76%…Remote Mobile Team 8
    76%…Remote Mobile Team 9
    75%…Remote Mobile Team 2
    70%…Remote Mobile Team 3
    68%…Remote Mobile Team 18
    68%…Remote Mobile Team 4
    66%…Remote Mobile Team 17
    62%…Remote Mobile Team 7
    .
    The overall vote in favour of Snowdon ALP was 56%. Seems like the remote communities love him disproportionately. I wonder why?

  63. Fleeced

    Alas ScoMo supports the NDIS boondoggle. One of many disappointments to come, I’m sure.

  64. Leigh Lowe

    AEC match-fixing update.
    Bass … Libs increase lead by 46 to 549, with 91.3% counted. Liars need a 2PP of 54% from here to tie. Got 46.6% of today’s count. Libs to win.
    Macquarie … no further votes counted but the vote whisperers have gone to work taking 4 votes off the Lib and adding 14 to the ALP. Filching them from the N Formal pile it looks like. Libs 140 ahead with 88% counted. Liars need 2PP of 50.5% to tie. Postals breaking to Libs hard at a 2PP of 57%. Should be a Lib win unless the vote whisperers bring their erasers and HBs tomorrow.
    Lilley… Libs cut the Liars lead by 46 to 739, with 83.7% counted. Libs need a 2PP of 52.1% from here to tie. Got 52.7% of today’s count. Postals generally breaking 54.4% to Libs. Still in play.
    Cowan … only black spot. The terrorist consultant picked up 93 votes out of 1,900 counted to a lead of 838, on 80.7% counted. Libs need a 2PP of 52.7% from here to tie. Generally postals are favouring the Liars very slightly (almost 50:50). Zachy Maller busily licking envelopes as we speak.

  65. Eyrie

    From the AEC website just now:

    National two party count Party / Coalition Votes Percentage % Swing %
    Liberal/National Coalition 5,698,576 51.40 +1.04
    Australian Labor Party 5,387,396 48.60 -1.04

  66. Eyrie

    Seems 48.6% of the voters are bludgers, thieves or insane.

  67. One of many disappointments to come,

    Yes. But if he builds a windfarm on the parliament lawns, I will forgive.

  68. cohenite

    Leigh Lowe

    #3023675, posted on May 23, 2019 at 5:30 pm

    Any prospects that milkman fitzgibbin in Hunter is going to get pasteurised by PHON?

  69. Bruce of Newcastle

    1. More Australians voted Labor than any other single party.

    Numbers – The Coalition has over a million more primary votes than Labor, as shown on that very same ABC page. Sheesh.

    2. There was a −0.3% swing against the Coalition nationwide.

    You neglected to mention the -1.1% swing against the Labor Party and the -0.4% swing against the Greens, again as clearly given on that ABC page. Curiously both those swings are larger than the swing against the LNP, who, as you know, is not precisely loved by the denizens of the Cat OT.

    3. So far, only 4 seats have actually changed hands.

    Normally you’d expect a landslide in the other direction after all the chaos the Libs have gone through. That the Libs actually increased their seat number is quite amazing.

    This is exactly the sort of behaviour that gets up the nose of voters – as promulgated by the climatistas. Fake news, fake data, cherry picking and obfuscating the real story to suck the veins of taxpayers for their own benefits.

  70. Leigh Lowe

    Ms Chrystanthou began pressing for an injunction at a hearing a fortnight ago, accusing the paper of attacking the court’s decision after it had vindicated her client.

    Today she told the court where an “indefensible” defamation had been published, an injunction should follow.

    Ms Chrystanthou said the Telegraph’s reporting of the matter after last month’s decision went beyond fair and accurate reports of the proceedings and had repeated the allegations.

    I think I posted here at the time that Rupert needed to send one of his last remaining adults and put a hard lock-down on the #metoo’s at the Tele.
    FMD, the case went against them, and they were still running sob stories about the “victim”.

  71. Ms Chrystanthou said the Telegraph’s reporting of the matter after last month’s decision went beyond fair and accurate reports of the proceedings and had repeated the allegations.

    Since when has the Telegraph ever printed “fair and accurate reports” of anything?
    The Telegraph has two uses – one associated with Budgie cages, and the other backyard dunnies…..

  72. Tailgunner

    Tommy, Tommy, Tommy…..
    Tommy!!!
    Any MEP news, Cats?

  73. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh Lowe

    #3023675, posted on May 23, 2019 at 5:30 pm

    Any prospects that milkman fitzgibbin in Hunter is going to get pasteurised by PHON?

    Haven’t looked at that one, but I suspect Coal Fitzgibbon might be safe.
    The PHON guy is 2,000 votes behind the Nats and, I suspect that the PHON preferences won’t be tight and will spray all over the place (some will be disaffected ALPs giving the finger to the Liars, but prefencing them #2).
    Had PHON beaten the Nats into second, I think Nats preferences would have flowed a lot harder to PHON, maybe putting him over the line.
    Doesn’t look likely.

  74. This is exactly the sort of behaviour that gets up the nose of voters – as promulgated by the climatistas. Fake news, fake data, cherry picking and obfuscating the real story to suck the veins of taxpayers for their own benefits.

    Tell me what is “fake”.
    Everything I posted is fact.
    “The Coalition” is two parties.
    Labor is one, and remains the party that most Australians voted for with their first preference on May 19th.
    Suck it up….

  75. Natural Instinct

    Tailgunner

    This means there is an additional restriction in the UK for European elections, because voting elsewhere in the EU is not concluded until Sunday evening; in the UK, it is a criminal offence to publish exit polls or opinion polls which ask people how they’ve voted (anywhere in the EU) before 22:00 BST on Sunday 26 May.

  76. Bruce of Newcastle

    Any prospects that milkman fitzgibbin in Hunter is going to get pasteurised by PHON?

    Cohenite – Sadly no. I had a look around lunchtime. Labor is getting more of the postals than PHON and the Nats and the Nats are getting more than PHON. It’ll still end up a marginal seat though. Fitzy will have to do some actual work for once.

  77. I reckon Chloe will send Tits a text while he is at the football.

    Which raises the question: Who will be PM after Scottie?

  78. Leigh Lowe

    Fleeced

    #3023641, posted on May 23, 2019 at 4:52 pm

    Heh… people are getting outraged about Abbott’s pension, now.

    I mean, it’s a racket, but one all former PMs get (and all MPs first elected before 2004).

    Well, not all.
    One payment expired last week (although probably Blanche collects an ongoing paymemt … Des Desky will know).
    Interesting no-one thinks Bob’s pension was a travesty.

  79. Mr Rusty;
    I didn’t realise it was your company.
    I want some t shirts that are in your OS/Libertyline/threadless department. Can I order them via the Australian website or do I need to use my VPN so it appears to be shipping elsewhere?
    Like the moon?

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    Having been comprehensively destroyed in every other ‘argument’ he’s ever come up with, Four Leaf Tayback’s now auditioning for Media Watch.

    And doing a piss poor job of it, too. There must be a new MX5 coming out.

    If this happened, if that happened combined with the other thing happening.

    Meanwhile, back in Reality Land, none of that happened.

  81. Makka

    Trump won. The LNP won. Commies like numbers never worry about “the system” unless people don’t choose to allow them into their pockets or lives.Then it’s always “the we was robbed” malarkey. No one cares about the losers, numbers. But your hysteria has entertainment value somewhat ,if that’s a consolation.

  82. Some History

    The MARX Bruvvers
    [includes Gang Green, socialists, ecofascists, etc, etc]

    https://imgur.com/xI7lwD4

  83. Black Ball

    The sneering at the hoi polloi in Beverly Hills from our betters continues apace. From the Hun:

    ‘Beverly Hills is poised to outlaw the sale of all tobacco products – except at cigar lounges, where the rich and famous can keep puffing away.
    Under the proposed ordinance, the sale of tobacco products would be banned starting January 2021. An initial vote on the measure is scheduled for tomorrow, with a final vote set for June 4.
    The law would apply to the sale of cigarettes, pipe tobacco, chewing tobacco and electronic cigarettes at petrol stations, pharmacies, convenience stores and other retailers.’

    Time to open a safe house for smokers methinks.

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers – You are thick. First, in most seats the Coalition agree to not run against each other, so both their individual totals are reduced. Second in Queensland they are indeed a single party. In the Senate there is no difference between the parties, they run on one ticket. For that reason they can be regarded as one effective party. That would be the understanding of most Australians, except you it seems.

    Your bleedingly obvious inference was that Labor won the popular vote. It did not. That is the same distortion that Hillary has been going on about. She lost on the electoral college and she lost on the total of legal votes. Voters do not like slimy politicians shading the truth for their own purposes.

  85. Knuckle Dragger

    Natural Instinct,

    That’s because the ‘interpreters’ allowed in the remote polling booths don’t give information on how to vote to the bewildered punters, they TELL them how to vote. And using the Labor HTVs as well.

    It’s been going on for years. The scrutineers banned speaking in language for these people, but they still get through. The usual ‘misunderstood’, ‘out of context’ bullshit.

    Hence the 90%.

  86. bespoke

    I wounder what there staff think of the ban, BB.

  87. zyconoclast

    Not headline news

    Hannah Cornelius’ mum walked into sea and died after girl’s gang [email protected] and murder
    Hannah Cornelius’ dad Willem said he ‘couldn’t bear to hear what they did to my daughter’ as he told a court about his wife Anna’s death in Scarborough, Cape Town

  88. Tel

    Having been comprehensively destroyed in every other ‘argument’ he’s ever come up with, Four Leaf Tayback’s now auditioning for Media Watch.

    Bad-With-Numbers fact checking says that 33.65% is “most” of 100% … must be that new Common Core math I’ve heard about. A shoe-in for Media Watch, they love these type of facts.

  89. Natural Instinct

    thanks Knuckle Dragger
    Ever brought up at senate estimates or post election reviews?

  90. Boambee John

    notafan
    #3023650, posted on May 23, 2019 at 5:01 pm
    Okay then if the LNP coalition votes in QLD don’t get included in the ‘numbers’ you need to uncount the ALP votes in QLD too

    Labor in NSW has a division called “Country Labor”. Don’t forget to discount all Labor votes outside the “real” NSW, Newcastle, Sydney, Wollongong, Numbers.

    Also, check if Labor also uses the “Country” scam in other states, in an attempt to seem interested in rural concerns. You might need to do some more discounting!

  91. Various posts turn up here showing YouTube of fast jets flying low over semi-populated areas.

    – Steve trickler
    #3023135, posted on May 23, 2019 at 1:21 am
    Late night fun.
    Goodnight, all.

    Reminds me of the incident on 3 February 1998 when some Yanks playing silly buggers with a couple of Navy EA-6B Prowlers, severed a cable causing a cable car with 20 passengers on board to plunge over 80 metres killing them all.
    The Italians called it Strage del Cermis (“Massacre at Cermis”).
    The upshot was a charge of involuntary manslaughter against two crew members who admitted they were flying faster and considerably lower than allowed by military regulations in order to “have fun” and “take videos of the scenery”. The charges were eventually dropped in the US, after the Yanks blocked the Italian authorities from having the hearing in their local jurisdiction.
    The two men were court-martialed a second time for obstruction of justice because they had destroyed a videotape recorded from the plane on the day of the crash. The existence and destruction of this videotape only came to the attention of military investigators in August 1998, once a Captain Chandler P. Seagraves received testimonial immunity and elected to disclose “the truth about everything.”
    Nobody served any prison time.
    A sad story which illustrates American exceptionalism and disregard for justice as it applies to non Americans.

  92. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Suck it up…..’

    Oh we will, Four Leaf. Sucking up victory like you suck the will to live out of every room you enter.

    Victory over the socialist grubs who were that confident they effectively said ‘stiff shit’ to the voters about their policies, and who ended up losing the unlosable election.

    Victory over climate change imbecility. Victory over death taxes. Victory over aggressive little Canberra ponces that hide behind ladees and swear at Christians. Victory over arrogant educated morons who think the working class don’t deserve to feed their families, and who drove Teslas powered by diesel semi trailers carrying twelve-ton diesel generators into their heartland to tell them that.

    Victory over black-throated finch lovers and victory over those who would have us sign a blank cheque and give our super and hard-won share benefits away, only to have it squandered by a feckless bunch of well-dressed Communists with only their own personal interests at heart.

    And victory over cowardice, Four Leaf. A subject close to your heart.

  93. Boambee John

    “The Coalition” is two parties.
    Labor is one, and remains the party that most Australians voted for with their first preference on May 19th.

    Labor campaigns as “Country Labor” in regional NSW.

  94. Leigh Lowe

    Flipping around the web today waiting for a yuuuuge Adani PO to lob in our Brissy office I spied this headline …
    “Jackie Trad Assures MPs That She Will Not Mount a Leadership Challenge.”
    Comical Ali level delusion.
    I think Joe Ludwig is coming out of retirement solely to hand her arse to her on a plate.

  95. Knuckle Dragger

    Instinct,

    Every once in a while it comes up, but gets howled down because indigenous.

    Surprisingly, this time around it came up a couple of times – on ABC Radio.

  96. Leigh Lowe

    I hope ScoMo still has that lump of coal.
    Do it.
    Just do it.
    I want to see a tantrumous tsunami of teariness.

  97. For that reason they can be regarded as one effective party. That would be the understanding of most Australians, except you it seems.

    Try telling that to a died-in-the-wool National Party supporter in David Littleproud’s electorate.
    You’d be laughed out of the bar.

    Bad-With-Numbers fact checking says that 33.65% is “most” of 100% … must be that new Common Core math I’ve heard about. A shoe-in for Media Watch, they love these type of facts.

    More verballing. Show me where I wrote that.

    In case you haven’t noticed, there are two different parties – one called the Liberal Party and the other the National Party. It they were “one party” they’d have the same name.
    It’s a very simple concept.
    Most year two kids would understand it.

    More Australians voted Labor first preference than any other single party.

  98. Knuckle Dragger

    Once again.

    Crayon Eater destroyed, and reverts to type.

    ‘Must bash Yanks…. Yanks……. ooooooooo’

    Were these the same people you visited in their own country you hate so much, and tried to flog your book, ‘How I Tried to Get Out of Vietnam 12 Times, but Failed Because I Wasn’t as Smart As I Thought I Was’ to?

  99. Some History

    Beverly Hills has always been known as a bastion of rectitude [giggle]

    On Tuesday night, the Beverly Hills City Council moved forward on recommendations from the health and safety committee to ban the sale of all tobacco products.
    “This reflects the values of our community,” said Mayor John Mirisch. “We are a city that has taken the lead on restricting smoking and promoting public health. Somebody has to be first, so let it be us.”
    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Beverly-Hills-Considering-Ban-on-Tobacco-Sales-509613541.html

  100. Notafan

    Blanche should be getting 66 %.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    That’s because the ‘interpreters’ allowed in the remote polling booths don’t give information on how to vote to the bewildered punters, they TELL them how to vote. And using the Labor HTVs as well.

    I’m remembering the Wild West a few years ago, where the indigenous voters were being told that, if they didn’t vote Labor, their “sit-down” money would stop.

  102. bespoke

    1735099
    #3023706, posted on May 23, 2019 at 5:59 pm
    Various posts turn up here showing YouTube of fast jets flying low over semi-populated areas.

    ==

    – Steve trickler
    #3023135, posted on May 23, 2019 at 1:21 am
    Late night fun.
    Goodnight, all.

  103. Nick

    Remember when Shorten insisted on meeting Public Servants before assuming office ? Hahahhaahhahha.

  104. Notafan

    In the context of the political landscape in Australia your claim is meaningless

    squawk squawk squawk

  105. Some History

    From the same article:
    Beverly Hills already has strict regulations on how people smoke. Doing so while standing still, for example, is illegal — if you’re going to smoke, you must be walking and continuously moving.

    In New York, a politician is seeking the exact opposite: Smoking only while standing still. If you’re walking and continuously moving, smoking would be illegal.
    Councilman’s bill would ban smoking while walking on city sidewalks
    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/councilman-bill-ban-smoking-walking-sidewalks-article-1.3886435

    In affluent Laguna Beach, Cal, they’ve banned smoking outdoors entirely:
    Laguna Beach looks at banning smoking in all public places
    http://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/tn-dpt-me-0126-lb-smoking-20170125-story.html

    Let antismokers (leftists) lead the way and what you get is insanity.

  106. Tel

    Labor is one, and remains the party that most Australians voted for with their first preference on May 19th.

    Who wrote that, then forgot he wrote it a few minutes later?

    A party with more than 50% of the vote would be a party that most Australians voted for. A party in the low 30’s does not satisfy that criteria.

  107. Peter Castieau

    Talking about lumps of coal…

    https://youtu.be/ofUZNynYXzM

  108. Leigh Lowe

    How I Tried to Get Out of Vietnam 12 Times, but Failed Because I Wasn’t as Smart As I Thought I Was’ to?

    The front and back door to the house were both wide open but Private Mastermind and his Papa thought it would be a cleverer strategy to break into the chook-house and tunnel in from there.
    Because smarter than the average bear.

  109. Bruce of Newcastle

    Nobody served any prison time.
    A sad story which illustrates American exceptionalism and disregard for justice as it applies to non Americans.

    Numbers – Signs are that the TWA Flight 800 case may see some declassified docs soon. That might be quite damaging to ex-President Bill Clinton.

    Two hundred and thirty people died in that one. It probably was an accident but the theories of a radar guided missile and a coverup are pretty plausible too.

  110. John64

    Remember when Shorten insisted on meeting Public Servants before assuming office ? Hahahhaahhahha.

    Remember when Tits wrote to ScoMo requesting a smooth transition of power?

    Hahahahahahahahaha.

  111. Zyconoclast

    Shhh! Don’t Tell Evangelical Supporters of [email protected], but Abortion There Is Legal — and Often It’s Free
    Neither religious conservatives nor liberal feminists are completely satisfied with the status quo in the J00wish state, but the current system allows some 40,000 women to have abortions annually.

    https://tinyurl.com/y68czu4r

  112. Remember when Tits wrote to ScoMo requesting a smooth transition of power?

    Remember when Moobs McTits told Arnie he was going to be the next Prime Minister of Australia.

    BBBBWWWWAAAAAAahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  113. Notafan

    Remember Saturday night watching Wong eating a big bowl of sour grapes.

    A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

  114. Notafan

    And Leigh Sales reminding her about mediscare.

  115. Notafan

    Zyco

    Stimpy tried that one a couple of days ago.

    Iirc Israel has same sex marriage too

    yawn.

  116. egg_

    9,738 have signed. Let’s get to 10,000!

    Wind Farms for Warringah

    Fvck yeah!

  117. Oh we will, Four Leaf. Sucking up victory like you suck the will to live out of every room you enter.

    I am so using the end of that line in my next pointless meeting.

  118. Knuckle Dragger

    Spastic Herder,

    A broken nation turns its lonely eyes to you……..

  119. Black Ball

    Satyajeet Marar, a director of policy at the Australian Taxpayers Alliance has penned an op-ed in the Hun that focuses on the Indian election and what it could mean. Included in his analysis was that since Modi came to Australia in 2014, monthly exports to India nearly doubled from 0.7 billion to 1.3 billion. Which according to Marar, was under threat with a Labor victory. Adani of course the elephant in the room. Found this a very good read.

  120. Notafan

    In any case the reason for evangelical Christian support of Israel is I think a very poor theological one, which has nothing to do with modern Israeli anything.

  121. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bruce of Newcastle
    #3023698, posted on May 23, 2019 at 5:48 pm
    Numbers – You are thick.”

    That’s an understatement.

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    Zyco – Israel has their very own micro progressive left kolkhoz, which as you might expect is centred on the government sector. Who do you think have been after Netanyahu with this fake court case?

    The fun thing is that Israel is well ahead of the US and Australia in laying waste to the Left.

  123. Steve Trickler:

    On the beat coppers in the UK would be privately seething with the orders given of late….they’ve no choice but to follow them. With that said, they are a piss weak police force in the eyes of the world.

    I’ve been watching the videos of the harassment of Tommy Robinson for several years. In them, there is no indication of private seething. In fact I’m fairly sure they are determined to get him. Remember that most police have gone through a Leftist viewpoint focused training regime. If universities can brain wash our young academics into Green ideology, then why would our police be immune?
    No. I believe the police force is not our friend – not anymore.

  124. John64

    Remember Saturday night watching Wong eating a big bowl of sour grapes. A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

    Nick Cater magnificently observed that, by the end of TheirABC’s coverage, Ol’ Leathery’s face looked like a deflated football.

    Hahahahahahahaha.

  125. bespoke

    If that’s semi-populated whats densely-populated, 1735099? 5-10?

  126. egg_

    The front and back door to the house were both wide open but Private Mastermind and his Papa thought it would be a cleverer strategy to break into the chook-house and tunnel in from there.
    Because smarter than the average bear.

    Is that where the bitterness comes from – the Platinum Rake Award(TM)?

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    I need one of those T shirts featured here a while back with Reagan wearing a MAGA hat on it.

    And one of the Pinochet ones.

  128. cohenite

    Trump thinks it’s a great idea:

    We wanted to let you know about our exciting new project that is going to expose the Russia collusion myth and reveal the truth about the “Deep State.”
    I have written a play called FBI Lovebirds: UnderCovers. We are going to put it on in Washington DC and film it live. It is a 100 percent verbatim script constructed out of the secret texts from Peter Strzok and Lisa Page (aka the FBI Lovebirds) and I have included their closed-door testimony to the congressional committee that was investigating them.

    And the great news is that we have Hollywood actors who have agreed to play the parts! Dean Cain and Kristy Swanson are playing Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
    The story has just broken in the Hollywood Reporter and Politico.
    The filmed staged reading of the play will be in front of a live theater audience at the Mead Theater in DC on June 13th. Shortly afterwards, it will be available for free on YouTube so the whole world can see the truth.
    It’s an amazing script of Page and Strzok texting like juvenile lovers in between vile anti-Trump texts and them planning to investigate him as an “insurance policy” in case he gets elected. It’s clear when you see and hear the texts and their lame defenses when questioned about them that they were determined to stop the Trump presidency by any means necessary.
    But we need your help to make this happen. Hollywood and the mainstream media want to bury this story and hide the truth. So we are crowdfunding to produce this play and film. Please go to http://www.FBILovebirds.com to help. We need your donation to ensure that the truth is told.
    We love telling the truth. We love telling the stories that the mainstream media try to hide. That’s why we made the Gosnell Movie, produced the Ferguson Plays, and launched the Clinton Emails on Film projects.
    It’s really important that the world knows the truth about the Russia Hoax and just what they were saying. Strzok and Page talked about how they were going to stop Trump from being president; “We will stop it” – said Strzok in a text to Page. Then shortly afterwards they launched the “Russia investigation.”
    FBI Lovebirds: UnderCovers is a great script and it is 100 percent verbatim. It will make for a stunning film but we can’t do it without your help. So please go to http://www.FBILovebirds.com and help make sure that the truth gets out.

    Many thanks,
    Phelim McAleer

  129. Knuckle Dragger

    bespoke,

    If it was the Gobi Desert in mid winter, the befuddled old commie would still describe it as the Tokyo CBD.

  130. MatrixTransform

    Suck it up….

    And Labour didnt win a majority.

    and they cant form govt.

    and no matter how many ‘talking points’ you raise, yr just a whinging pissant…. like Billary Shorten.

    relevance comes with winning seats and forming govt

    speaking of 2 separate parties… if it wasnt for Greentards you dimwits wouldnt have any preferences.

    fuck yr retarded numpty

  131. egg_

    by the end of TheirABC’s coverage, Ol’ Leathery’s face looked like a deflated football.

  132. Some History

    A question:

    Most countries are signed up to the World Health Organization Framework Convention on Tobacco Control, a UN prohibitionist treaty. [The FCTC was heavily influenced by the Americans]
    It’s in the West that antismoking zeal/fanaticism has gone off the charts.

    Consider the levels of government – Federal, State, Local. How many cigarette smokers do you think are members of any level of government in Western countries? There wouldn’t be many, if any.

    The world of the last 40 years has been run by antismokers, a symptom of leftist domination. And then there’s the other “progressive” crap that comes with leftist domination. Smoking has been manufactured into the new masturbation or homosexuality, a convenient scapegoat for morally deteriorating societies, led by the affluent [convinced of their “superiority”].

    Actual homosexuality is not only normal but to be embraced. All sorts of questionable thinking/conduct has been normalized while smoking/smokers have been denormalized/leperized/stigmatized/ostracized. It’s smokers that must be “cured”. All efforts by the State must be made to cure smokers.

    GHU

  133. Steve trickler

    Today i learn’t about the Bodhrán.



  134. zyconoclast

    6 more minutes of Alison Balsom and her trumpet

  135. Some History

    For anyone interested.

    The last time the medically aligned (including Public Health) and the mega-wealthy combined for “clean living”, it produced the Eugenics catastrophe of early last century, first popularized in America. The Germans and Hi$ter were students of American Eugenics.

    Some info from early last century.

    Kellogg’s cornflakes began as an anti-masturbation measure.

    John Harvey Kellogg was a eugenicist (physicalist – health is a physical, absence-of-physical-disease phenomenon), a Seventh-Day Adventist (Adventists believe in a vegetarian diet, abstinence from alcohol and tobacco, and a regimen of exercise – these are also essentially eugenics beliefs) – although being later “disfellowshipped”, and anti-masturbation campaigner.

    He was an especially zealous campaigner against masturbation; this was an orthodox view during his lifetime, especially the earlier part. Kellogg was able to draw upon many medical sources’ claims such as “neither the plague, nor war, nor small-pox, nor similar diseases, have produced results so disastrous to humanity as the pernicious habit of onanism,” credited to one Dr. Adam Clarke. Kellogg strongly warned against the habit in his own words, claiming of masturbation-related deaths “such a victim literally dies by his own hand,” among other condemnations. He felt that masturbation destroyed not only physical and mental health, but the moral health of individuals as well. Kellogg also believed the practice of this “solitary-vice” caused cancer of the womb, urinary diseases, nocturnal emissions, impotence, epilepsy, insanity, and mental and physical debility; “dimness of vision” was only briefly mentioned.
    Kellogg worked on the rehabilitation of masturbators, often employing extreme measures, even mutilation, on both sexes…..

    He also recommended, to prevent children from this “solitary vice”, bandaging or tying their hands, covering their genitals with patented cages and electrical shock….

    Kellogg thought that masturbation was the worst evil one could commit; he often referred to it as “self-abuse”. He was a leader of the anti-masturbation movement, and promoted extreme measures to prevent masturbation.[23][24][25] In addition, Kellogg thought that diet played a huge role in masturbation and that a bland diet would decrease excitability and prevent masturbation. Thus, Kellogg invented Corn Flakes breakfast cereal in 1878. He hoped that feeding children this plain cereal every morning would help to combat the urges of “self-abuse”.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=John_Harvey_Kellogg

  136. Atoms for Peace

    “My name is Kevin, I’m from Queensland and I’m here to help,” he quipped as he addressed his first Labor national conference as opposition leader..

    such innocent days

  137. calli

    Just got back from a massive lunch at Ubud Ritz Carlton. Groan…

    I see the Therapeutic Torie Trouncer is the new Fearless Leader.

    That orthodontic work was money well spent.

  138. Atoms for Peace

    Time for the viet kraken to buy into a sleeping gown, comfortable slippers and go wandering around the neighbourhood.

  139. Some History

    “In 1876, Kellogg agreed to become superintendent of a small reform medical institution run by the Adventists, the Western Health Reform Institute, which then housed 20 patients. By the turn of the century, he had expanded it to accommodate 700 patients and had renamed it the Battle Creek Sanitarium; by the 1920s, it housed 1200 patients, including prominent industrialists and politicians. Kellogg invented a range of exercise equipment for the use of these paying guests.

    To improve the patients’ diet, Kellogg developed, patented, and introduced a variety of new foods, including Granola and Corn Flakes; he also invented peanut butter, artificial milk made from soybeans, and a variety of imitation meats. His younger brother, Will Keith Kellogg, later built a successful company to market his brother’s cereal creations; in so doing, he transformed the average American’s breakfast. Kellogg company profits were initially fed into the Race Betterment Foundation, which John Harvey created in 1914 to publicize and promote eugenics; later they flowed into the W. K. Kellogg Foundation.

    John Harvey Kellogg was an early member of the American Public Health Association and served on the Michigan Board of Health from 1878 to 1891 and from 1911 to 1917. In 1922, he proudly listed the latter credential on the title page of his book Tobaccoism, or How Tobacco Kills, a sustained assault on the physiological, pathological, nutritional, eugenic, moral, and economic devastation caused by the “tobacco habit.”2 This book contributed to the antitobacco campaign of the 1920s that led to a bill introduced by Senator Reed Smoot in 1929 to bring tobacco under the regulatory purview of the Pure Food and Drug Act—an effort officially endorsed by the American Public Health Association.3 In the end, however, Congress failed to act and Americans continued their unhindered and unregulated consumption of cigarettes.”
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447485/

  140. Roger

    That is the same distortion that Hillary has been going on about.

    Hillary also told coal miners she’d put them out of a job, just like Plibbers and Trad.

  141. Tailgunner

    No. I believe the police force is not our friend

    The Jacks are done now. They are the enemy.
    #collaborators

  142. Nob

    1735099
    #3023714, posted on May 23, 2019 at 6:07 pm
    For that reason they can be regarded as one effective party. That would be the understanding of most Australians, except you it seems.

    Try telling that to a died-in-the-wool National Party supporter in David Littleproud’s electorate.

    In case you haven’t noticed, there are two different parties – one called the Liberal Party and the other the National Party. It they were “one party” they’d have the same name.

    They campaign as the Coalition. They don’t stand against each other.

    Labor and Greens are free to form such a coalition and do that.

    In fact, I urge them to.

    Years of entertainment.

  143. Boambee John

    John64
    #3023729, posted on May 23, 2019 at 6:19 pm
    Remember when Shorten insisted on meeting Public Servants before assuming office ? Hahahhaahhahha.

    Remember when Tits wrote to ScoMo requesting a smooth transition of power?

    Well, his wish was granted. An extremely smooth transition indeed!

  144. Knuckle Dragger

    I’ll say it……

    John Harvey Kellogg is a wanker.

  145. Some History

    THEN
    EUGENICS AS BASIS OF NEW ARISTOCRACY; Would
    Consist of Apollos and Venuses, Says Dr. Kellogg — Sees
    Race Going to Seed. URGES STATE REGULATION Deems Health and Marriage Inspection Imperative — Luther Burbank Supports a Similar Idea.

    August 8, 1915, Sunday
    SAN FRANCISCO, Aug. 7. — The world needs a new aristocracy — “a real aristocracy made up of Apollos and Venuses and their fortunate progeny” — said Dr. J.H. Kellogg, of Battle Creek, Mich., in an address tonight on “The Eugenics Registry” before the second National Conference on Race Betterment.
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9803E6DC153BE233A2575BC0A96E9C946496D6CF&scp=38&sq=eugenics&st=p

    NOW
    From the 5th World [Eugenics] Conference on Smoking and Health, 1983, Winnipeg, Canada
    Free apples, bananas, oranges and bran muffins were available at breaks during the Conference. Young athletes, clad in gymnasium attire, conducted brief exercise rituals for delegates at many sessions. Health for all.
    (p.23)
    http://www2.tobaccodocuments.org/ti/TIMN0449129-9153.html?zoom=750&ocr_position=above_foramatted&start_page=1

    We now have a large global gym culture that didn’t exist 30 years ago. Gymnasia are selling points for hotels, apartment complexes, cruise ships, social clubs, etc. They’re all over the place now. In these gyms, people flex muscles for hours on end (or walk/run on treadmills – like rats in the lab) and strut about checking each other out [physically] or stare into mirrors in abject Narcissism, oozing vanity. They also spend copious amounts of time monitoring their diet. These are the eugenics “master people”, the “Apollos and Venuses” – the “aristocracy of the bicep”. Health, again, perversely reduced to only a physical phenomenon.

  146. Roger

    I see the Therapeutic Torie Trouncer is the new Fearless Leader.

    Let’s not get ahead of ourselves; it has to go to the popular vote first, followed by his parliamentary colleagues.

    We can’t rule out an upset.

    ;-).

  147. hzhousewife

    Kudos as well to Bob Brown and his anti-Adani convoy. Here’s a hint as to why that backfired so badly, Bob: most unemployed people in Queensland, unlike your mob, actually want a job.

    Utter Gold !

  148. Atoms for Peace

    The way the ALP is going at the moment, Albo could indeed lose against himself

  149. calli

    A mere bagatelle, Roger.

    Da bruvvas have his back.

  150. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m not sure I’ll be able to look at my morning bowl of sultana bran in the same way ever again.

  151. calli

    The only uncertain election these guys ever walk into is the one involving us.

  152. MatrixTransform

    Albo feels a lot like Turnbull right now

  153. John Constantine

    https://www.techguide.com.au/news/internet-news/telstra-switches-5g-network-launch-htc-5g-hub/

    Telstra has officially switched on its 5G network and is launching Australia’s first 5G mobile device – the HTC 5G Hub which will be available to order online from today.

    The HTC 5G Hub will arrive on May 28 in Telstra stores across Australia.

    The device is the world’s first 5G/4GX media hotspot which can function as both a secure mobile solution or as a family entertainment hub which takes advantage of 5G speeds to stream 4K content and games to your TV.

    Telstra CEO Andy Penn says the launch of the HTC 5G Hub is a significant milestone for the company as they start the transition to 5G which will be available immediately in select areas in CBDs and major capital cities along with Gold Coast and Toowoomba.

    Their nbn contractors will be stringing nbn spaghetti everywhere and using their 5g phones to maximise the profit.

    Comrade Maaaaaates.

  154. Atoms for Peace

    Deed right Calli. The bruvvers are in his corner, massaging his neck and shoulders and , where was I?..getting him ready for the party room brawl. He has a mean left hook btw

  155. Roger

    A mere bagatelle, Roger.

    Da bruvvas have his back.

    No doubt, to that end I was trying to be ironic.

    🙁

    Chalmers & Bowen appear to have been warned off challenging the chosen one.

  156. Geriatric Mayfly

    zyconoclast
    #3023759, posted on May 23, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    Miss Balsom can sound the trumpet on Judgement Day. Will make my eternity of misery more bearable.

  157. calli

    A shame the “gym culture” hasn’t improved the waistlines of the Aussies here in Bali.

    I have never seen so much wall-to-wall white, wobbling, pierced, tattooed and saronged corpulence in my life.

    Clearly the result of eating too much of Mr. Kellogg’s product.

  158. Atoms for Peace

    Roger, Albo does seem to be the least punch drunk of the lot. The concussion rule has been brought in for the other contenders. They don’t seem to know what day it is or who the PM of Australia is..

  159. John Constantine

    Interesting that telstra didn’t unleash 5g to destroy the nbn until after the election.

    Probably just coincidence.

  160. Some History

    There’s now more and more talk of euthanasia, now referred to as “terminal sedation”?

    From back 100 years.

    He Believes Americans Over-eat, Over-drink and Over-everything and Thereby Slowly Kill Themselves: “We Are A Nation of Suicides”, Says Dr. H.W. Wiley
    March 19, 1911

    SUICIDE is self-destruction. Then we are a nation of suicides, for we are continually destroying ourselves.

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9901E6D61331E233A2575AC1A9659C946096D6CF&scp=48&sq=California+smoking&st=p

  161. Confused Old Misfit

    Alison Balsom… talented and drop dead gorgeous!
    Here’s another classical cutie!

  162. Some History

    (cont’d)

    “Besides food and drug reforms, Wiley also advocated other public health campaigns, especially prohibition. After retiring in 1912 he began to advocate national prohibition and considered “alcohol and its various forms….. an unmitigated evil”. During the 1920s he lauded the Volstead Act, the enforcement arm of the Eighteenth Amendment….. From 1925 to the end of his life he was a vice president of a local Anti-Saloon League. Wiley supported eugenics inasmuch as he considered alcohol and other drugs to be dysgenic and served on the central committee of the Second National Conference on Race Betterment…” (p.358)

    https://tinyurl.com/y4sjhuzl
    https://malcolmscorner.wordpress.com/2015/01/25/eugenics-gas-chambers-and-the-nazis-americas-shameful-past/

    In 1911, a study funded by the prestigious Carnegie Institute, outlined eighteen possible ‘solutions’ to the problem of preventing gene pool pollution, including euthanasia, forced sterilization and geographical isolation. The most commonly suggested method for eugenicide in America was a “lethal chamber” or public locally operated gas chamber. Local gas chambers enjoyed the support of many liberals, such as the government chemist and Pure Food and Drug Act pioneer Dr. Harvey W. Wiley, birth control advocate Margaret Sanger, and civil rights lawyer Clarence Darrow, who said it was just to “chloroform unfit children…and show them the same mercy that is shown beasts that are no longer fit to live.” William J. Robinson, a New York urologist and leading authority on birth control, eugenics, and marriage, wrote that the best solution would be for society to “gently chloroform” the children of the unfit or “give them a dose of potassium cyanide.” Paul Popenoe, the leader of California’s powerful eugenics movement, also endorsed the lethal chamber, and in his popular college textbook Applied Eugenics, published in 1918, he states that: “From an historical point of view, the first method which presents itself is execution…Its value in keeping up the standard of the race should not be underestimated.”
    https://malcolmscorner.wordpress.com/2015/01/25/eugenics-gas-chambers-and-the-nazis-americas-shameful-past/

  163. John Constantine

    The price of goat has reached a record of $10/kg over the hooks. Goat Industry Council of Australia president John Falkenhagen said a limited supply of goats due to drought was driving up prices.

  164. Roger

    Roger, Albo does seem to be the least punch drunk of the lot.

    Probably because he was not in the leadership group, Atoms.

    His challenge is what Bob Hawke successfully did: to put pragmatism before ideology…for the bloke who boasted “I like fighting Tories, it’s what I do” that’s quite a turn around.

    And to do it he’ll need to exorcise the ALP of the Prog-Left agenda/demon. I don’t think he’s the man to do that; instead he’ll speak out of both sides of his mouth (as Bill did) and hope nobody calls him out.

  165. Geriatric Mayfly

    The price of goat has reached a record of $10/kg over the hooks. Goat Industry Council of Australia president John Falkenhagen said a limited supply of goats due to drought was driving up prices.

    This could start an interesting diversion to the thread.

  166. Mater

    Just an observation:

    Conservatives seem to have found their voices on social media. Lefties are being slayed all over Facebook, even on the ABC page.
    Not only will Labor face the challenge of a set of marginal electorates in three years time, I’m thinking they may find themselves in a transformed, and less complicit, social media environment.
    Perhaps the silent masses came so close to the abyss that it has shaken them from their complacency.

    Much like after the vegan protest, people who I’d least expect, are engaging in battle.

  167. Atoms for Peace

    Roger..If Palacechooks has learnt to embrace her inner coal, maybe Albo can do a pirouette on his ballet slippers and present a new face..

  168. Atoms for Peace

    Geriatric . Love is love

  169. Cheryl

    This is spot on Makka. The pushback has been glorious to watch. I think its since the Trump came on the scene. He has been a leading light online.

  170. Eddystone

    14. Australian Conservatives (0.5%)

    Some minor parties might benefit from running a joint ticket in future elections – but AC isn’t worth negotiating with on the matter.

    They’re finished, I suspect.

    I think you’re right.

    I regretfully ceased my small monthly donation, which has been running pretty much since AC started up. No point throwing it away.

  171. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    . I was bemused to hear you say, ‘we’re all feeling just a little broken right now’. Fact is I see a lot of happy people post-election as well as those feeling greatly relieved.

    So many of our friends, especially the small business people, are over the moon; one said to me she’s breathing normally again now after puffing in anxiety for the past two weeks. Everywhere, the relief is palpable.

    Dunno about Newtown though. 🙂

  172. Roger

    Roger..If Palacechooks has learnt to embrace her inner coal, maybe Albo can do a pirouette on his ballet slippers and present a new face..

    Palaszczuk is at heart a pragmatist, not an ideologue. She demonstrated that when she flew to Japan earlier this year to assure them of coal supply. Her subsequent turnaround on Adani post-election confirms that. I suspect Albo has a bit more ideological baggage to unload.

  173. zyconoclast

    The redesign of the $20 bill featuring Harriet Tubman will no longer be unveiled in 2020, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin says.

    The unveiling had been timed to coincide with the 100th anniversary of the 19th Amendment, which granted women the right to vote. Mnuchin said that the design process has been delayed, and no new imagery will be unveiled until 2028.

  174. egg_

    Albo can do a pirouette on his ballet slippers and present a new face..

    The Woke New Albo in drag?
    Is he seeing Thai Lady Boys nowadays?

  175. egg_

    Is the Labor front bench all sharing the same bra nowadays?
    Is That Wong Chap entering the lower house?

  176. John64

    maybe Albo can do a pirouette on his ballet slippers and present a new face.

    Anything would be better than the face this Snivelling Swine presented back in 2013.

    “I like fighting Tories. That’s what I do.” (Sniff, snort)

  177. JC

    We need a little climate justice.

  178. zyconoclast

    From

    michaelsmithnews.com

    Prominent Victorian union leader John Setka will plead guilty to harassing a woman, but a charge of recklessly causing injury has been withdrawn by police prosecutors, along with 30 other charges.

  179. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘new $20 bill’

    2028?

    How the hell can a ‘design process’, which would be well advanced for a release in six months’ time suddenly be delayed for EIGHT YEARS?

    Was it going to feature Alex Turnbull or something?

  180. egg_

    Palaszczuk is at heart a pragmatist, not an ideologue. She demonstrated that when she flew to Japan earlier this year to assure them of coal supply. Her subsequent turnaround on Adani post-election confirms that. I suspect Albo has a bit more ideological baggage to unload.

    Palacechook has been like a sideshow clown on Adani.

  181. Steve trickler

    It comes with a “walk through”, ladies and gents. ( :



  182. zyconoclast

    How the hell can a ‘design process’, which would be well advanced for a release in six months’ time suddenly be delayed for EIGHT YEARS?

    It didn’t take 8 years. Trump administration don’t want to issue. Into the memory hole.

  183. Huck

    1735099
    #3023687, posted on May 23, 2019 at 5:39 pm
    This is exactly the sort of behaviour that gets up the nose of voters – as promulgated by the climatistas. Fake news, fake data, cherry picking and obfuscating the real story to suck the veins of taxpayers for their own benefits.

    Tell me what is “fake”.
    Everything I posted is fact.
    “The Coalition” is two parties.
    Labor is one, and remains the party that most Australians voted for with their first preference on May 19th.
    Suck it up

    My God Sideshow Bob,
    I’ve been too busy to comment here for quite some time, but you’(and it had to be you) have prompted me to break my silence.
    Of all the fuckwits on all the blogs on all of the Interwebs, you and you alone have climbed to to top of the steaming pile of dysentery fuelled shitheap and staked your flag. You my friend are the acme of fuckwits, the zenith, the numero uno.
    Also, stick your stupid fucking ellipses up your crapulent fucking arse. Spastic herder indeed.

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Don’t hold back, Huck. You tell us what you really think..

  185. egg_

    Kudos as well to Bob Brown and his anti-Adani convoy. Here’s a hint as to why that backfired so badly, Bob: most unemployed people in Queensland, unlike your mob, actually want a job.

    Teh Brown Green Convoy of Carnival Clowns?

  186. Arky

    Australia loses out because unlike the British with the Brexit betrayal, and the Americans with illegal immigration, we do not currently have an issue that adequately illuminates the shitfullness of our elitists.
    The Australian Conservatives should not be discouraged. I am confident our betters will find exactly the right matter to show us what they think of us.
    Bernardi’s hour will come if he has the steel to stick it out.

  187. calli

    The True Thai Tory Trouncer has a certain ring to it…

    Blair may be interested. 🙂

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    By Christ the fat bastard Qantas wouldn’t let in an exit row is being slaughtered in the Currant Bun article’s comments – possibly aided by a poor decision on fat bastard’s part to let him be photographed, and a full body shot at that. Yerk.

    ‘Put down the fork, buddy’ and ‘facts aren’t fat shaming’ appear to be the order of the day.

    Even other fat bastards are piping up, saying how fat they are and they would never book an exit row seat because normal people couldn’t get past them, and good on Qantas rah rah rah.

    It’s almost Bowen-esque in terms of expectation versus reality.

    There’s still a very important question to answer though.

    What role did Raelene Castle play in all this?

  189. Bruce of Newcastle

    we do not currently have an issue that adequately illuminates the shitfullness of our elitists.

    Globular warnumboolianism is getting that way Arky, although it hasn’t quite metastasized fully yet.

    Signs are it is going that way. More blackouts in South Australia and rising electricity prices will do it.

    The biggest tell that it’s happening is that we’re starting to actually see ads for generators on television.

  190. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘of all the fuckwits on all the blogs on all of the Interwebs’

    Casablanca was a pretty good film.

    It also features in John Wick III, the most gargantuanly spectacular epic of Biblical proportions of a movie of all time.

    Ever.

  191. Arky

    Looks that way Bruce.
    But not ripe in the minds of most people yet.
    Which is why, although the results will take a cycle or two to eventuate, Bernardi is better placed than he probably realises.

  192. Black Ball

    FMD Indigenous Round is upon us. Prepare for many Welcomes, elders to be addressed as uncle or aunty. Ahahahahah old mate in a suit presenting game ball with war paint on. Get off my screen and start playing rugby FFS.

  193. cohenite

    Pluck a chook like all liar leaders has a major colour dilemma: blue as in collar and their base or green as in filth which now control key inner city seats. Good luck you fuckers sorting that out.

  194. JC

    Cronkite

    Unless we have some climate justice to fight the climate emergency, Tuvalu is fucked.. FFS.

  195. Arky

    However, he has to rethink his approach.
    He hasn’t broken the donkey vote threshold.
    1. Attract some controversy.
    2. Do something with the name. There is probably a reason the word “conservative” doesn’t do it here. Something to do with all yiz criminal pasts.
    3. Find someone with some mongrel and personality to take it up the Liberals.

  196. Nick

    What role did Raelene Castle play in all this?

    She lent him her mumu

  197. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘Put down the fork, buddy’ and ‘facts aren’t fat shaming’ appear to be the order of the day.

    He’s not getting much in the way of sympathy and understanding, that’s for sure.

  198. Arky

    Australians also seem to like voting for retards with speech impairments.
    Bernardi needs to find some candidates like that.

  199. Nick

    FMD Indigenous Round is upon us. Prepare for many Welcomes, elders to be addressed as uncle or aunty. Ahahahahah old mate in a suit presenting game ball with war paint on. Get off my screen and start playing rugby FFS.

    I love the out of place white chicks waving ceremonial gum leave sprigs

  200. Makka

    Perhaps the silent masses came so close to the abyss that it has shaken them from their complacency.

    I think that’s true Mater, but it still remains to be seen what they actually do about it in a lasting fashion. Enough of the electorate didn’t trust Shorten and Labor and kept him out of the lodge. But the lure of free stuff, demand for it hasn’t abated. The masses have a long long way to go yet. When we see Pony Girl and The Hunchback beaten then it may be time to gloat just a little.

  201. Knuckle Dragger

    I would have no problem at all with pre-indigenous round smoking ceremonies, as long as they’re with Winnie Blues.

  202. JC

    Lordie.

    As fishy tales go, this one’s a whopper. A large marlin weighing between 80kg-100kg jumped on to a boat travelling at 40km/h off the NSW north coast today, attacked two brothers on board and then leapt back into the sea.
    One of the injured men being loaded into an ambulance. Picture: Nikki Voss

  203. Leigh Lowe

    John Constantine

    #3023789, posted on May 23, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    The price of goat has reached a record of $10/kg over the hooks. Goat Industry Council of Australia president John Falkenhagen said a limited supply of goats due to drought was driving up prices.

    Western Sydney sex slave traffickers?

  204. Bruce of Newcastle

    The problem for Cory is that when the dam breaks the electorate goes to the charismatic populist. Orban, Farage, Le Pen sorts of leaders. They tend not to go to the solid well thought out policy page of an AC party.

    Latham has positioned himself well for just this. When Pauline Hanson wants to retire he has the right flavour and energy to step up. Could be interesting in a few years, given the pretty amazing result in Hunter on the back of no resources, no airplay, no presence in the seat and no volunteers on the ground.

  205. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bendigo Art Gallery are having an exhibition ‘Tudors To Windsors’ in the near future. Looks like a good thing to have a squizz at. Lizzie as I have SFA knowledge on royalty and such matters, and reading your work you are pretty good at this stuff, what would be things to look out for?

    Any expertise I have remains in the fifth to the tenth century in Britain, with a bit of knowledge of the Tudors. Nevertheless I enjoy British and Scandinavian Royalty (our sort, doncha know), right up to the latest Hello Magazine, which also enjoys it.

    I’d love to see that exhibition. Thing to look for is the continuing ‘mystique’ that Royalty holds and how individual Royals have lost or enhanced that. We evolved from apes in the jungle and we look up to those who dominate and rule. The mystique of Royalty transfers that into a symbolic human form of tribal attachment that has become entwined into our more complex systems of government over centuries. The great battle over the ‘Divine Right’ of kings is also an interesting tussle between the idea of absolutism in the monarch contrasted with the ‘will of the people’. Kings and aristocrats in general as a special type of person is also worth examining (Shakespeare gave voice to the ordinary soldier in Henry V’s speech at Agincourt), and the slow democratization of aristocrats into just another part of the populace with not much, if anything, special about them. In many ways, the French Revolution gave them the final push although arguably Wallis Simpson made a strong contribution there too, as well as the American heiresses who flooded London in the ‘cash for coronets’ high Victorian and Edwardian eras.

    Costume has a lot to do with all of this; the great display of the self in a glittering immaculate outfit – both Henry and Elizabeth Tudor did this to an extreme. Their bodies, their personas, became very powerful symbols of authority, knowledge, and God-given difference to ordinary mortals. Hello Mag is a good read for the costume element even today. Who is wearing what amongst today’s young and older Royals?

    Great reading for in the bath for me. 🙂

  206. Farmer Gez

    My BIL made a good point about the ABC and MSM obsession with with the misleading polls.
    He said they were cruising and had no idea that they had to work harder to bag the conservatives.
    It’s more than disgust he said, it’s pure regret.

  207. Leigh Lowe

    Mater

    #3023792, posted on May 23, 2019 at 7:21 pm

    Just an observation:

    Conservatives seem to have found their voices on social media. Lefties are being slayed all over Facebook, even on the ABC page.
    Not only will Labor face the challenge of a set of marginal electorates in three years time, I’m thinking they may find themselves in a transformed, and less complicit, social media environment.
    Perhaps the silent masses came so close to the abyss that it has shaken them from their complacency.

    Agreed.
    I searched the Mrs Bandana “open letter”.
    She copped such a pasting.
    A few “go girl” posts (probably from Channel Ten boosters) but mostly a smashing along the lines of “sooking, petulant, rich bitch”.

  208. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The Dutch immigration minister has stepped down following outcry over a government migrant crime report which hid serious migrant crimes including rape and murder under the category of “other”.
    Resigning from his position on Tuesday, Mark Harbers stressed that no “deliberate concealment” of the figures had taken place, but said he took “full responsibility” for having “misinformed” the Dutch Parliament with regards to the report.

  209. Roberto

    I was just transferring the local rag from the letter box to the bin. The ghastly Zali is on the front page.

  210. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The problem for Cory is that when the dam breaks the electorate goes to the charismatic populist. Orban, Farage, Le Pen sorts of leaders. They tend not to go to the solid well thought out policy page of an AC party.

    I would question that anything was well thought out. It’s one of the first lessons of business, nobody cares if you have good intentions all they care about is they get what they want at a good price.

    if they were after the protest vote they should have made it their sales pitch

  211. Farmer Gez

    Pluck a Chook….f$ck the finch.

  212. Geriatric Mayfly

    Costume has a lot to do with all of this; the great display of the self in a glittering immaculate outfit – both Henry and Elizabeth Tudor did this to an extreme.

    Type in Bendigo Art Gallery and you will see the exhibition’s face page. There is Good Queen Bess in all her finest raiment. You have to ask yourself if this is artistic license.

  213. max

    Watching the Marngrook Footy Show on the AFL Indigenous Round.
    All Abo panelists and guests with plenty of jokes and good humour and absence of politics.
    “A big hello to Aunty Gwennie. And also to Pork.”

  214. Black Ball

    Thank you Lizzie for your words. Have been watching Versailles on SBS of late, chronicling the French Revolution and events leading up to that. The opulence that the ruling class inhabited is amazing. Costumes, fine art and dining.
    Anyhoo, here is a link you may be interested in Lizzie. Already on I believe until July.
    https://www.bendigoregion.com.au/bendigo-art-gallery/exhibitions/tudors-to-windsors-british-royal-portraits

  215. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thank you Lizzie for your words. Have been watching Versailles on SBS of late, chronicling the French Revolution and events leading up to that. The opulence that the ruling class inhabited is amazing.

    Went to see the Palace of Versailles. Came to the conclusion that I didn’t agree with beheading all and sundry, but the revolutionaries may have had a point.

  216. Leigh Lowe

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    #3023843, posted on May 23, 2019 at 8:18 pm

    The Dutch immigration minister has stepped down following outcry over a government migrant crime report which hid serious migrant crimes including rape and murder under the category of “other”.

    Miles behind VikPol.
    If you never arrest them you never have to fudge the numbers.

  217. rickw

    Of course IQ’s are dropping in First World countries. They are being invaded by low IQ third world savages.

    In a mere 25? years the population of OZ has almost doubled. Immigration of slightly below average individuals will definitely drag down the average.

  218. Black Ball

    Would be something to behold Zulu. Much like the opulence of Jeremy Clarkson and his P45.

  219. Knuckle Dragger

    In their latest endeavour to stay away from police work and embrace the flavour, VicPol has ‘celebrated’ a report that says there is still an undercurrent of poovery-dislike in the organisation.

    At the Footscray Police Station, of all places.

    Inspector Mark Keen, who is openly gay (duh) said in his early days in the job he encountered ‘snide remarks’, ‘offensive comments’ and ‘rampant heterosexualism’ on a daily basis.

    Rampant. Heterosexualism.

    Amazing that well over 98% of the population, including the wallopers, would be rampantly heterosexual.

    They should give out awards for it.

  220. Bruce of Newcastle

    League of Extraordinary Gentlemen on 7 Mate. Graphic novels seem to translate to film better than actual novels, and anything with Sean Connery in it is potable.

    And if I live to tell the tale there’s Enter the Dragon after it.

  221. cohenite

    Unless we have some climate justice to fight the climate emergency, Tuvalu is fucked..

    Tuvalu is fucked above or below the water.

  222. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    One Senate seat marks gloomy Labor outlook in Queensland

    Rosie Lewis
    Reporter
    @rosieslewis
    12:00AM May 23, 2019
    54 Comments

    Labor is on track to secure a sole Senate seat in Queensland, delivering a major blow to the party and its worst upper-house result in the key battleground state since 1949.

    A failure to win two upper-house seats in the Sunshine State would reflect Labor’s poor showing in the House of Representatives, where the party is predicted to win just six of 30 Queensland electorates — a net loss of two.

    Labor MPs said the same issues in lower-house seats in the state — equivocation over the Adani coalmine and an ambitious policy agenda that included contentious changes to negative gearing and dividend imputation credits — were at play in the Senat­e.

    The Coalition meanwhile is on track to pick up three Senate seats in every state and in a best-case scenario could control 35 votes in the upper house, meaning it would need the support of just four crossbenchers to pass legislation. This would significantly bolster Scott Morrison’s power in the Senate.

    From the Oz.

  223. Rockdoctor

    woolfe
    #3023428, posted on May 23, 2019 at 12:21 pm

    Late to the discussion but +100

    Seen puddy CAT’s in interesting places because the expert decided to depart from the script on professional judgement grounds. Wont even start on some of the near misses I saw in Prestarts last year…

  224. Fisky

    I watched Bernardi on PML…..I think he looked tired, disappointed and resigned. There’s no fire in him.

    I had this pegged from the beginning. He just doesn’t have the charisma to pull it off, and furthermore, it’s not obvious who his party was appealing to. Was it the ultra-blue-rinse set, or was it the deplorables in the outer suburbs? If the latter, then Bernardi cannot hope to compete against Hanson and Palmer.

    Sad.

  225. Notafan

    The French revolution was a ghastly monstrous destruction of goodness and beauty, nobody deserves to die merely for who they are .

    Many Aristos joined the other side and thousands of petite bourgeoisie and peasants were murdered.

    As for aristocracy being just another part of the population .

    I don’t see it, especially not in Spain or Italy where families like the Dukes of Alba and the double barrels in Italy live like they have for the last several centuries.

    Still very very rich and very very insular.

  226. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Zuke doing godmerkel’s work
    The leader of a British political party and a candidate in tomorrow’s European elections are both included on Facebook’s list of potential “Hate Agents,” Breitbart News can exclusively reveal.
    Carl Benjamin, YouTube star and candidate for UKIP in tomorrow’s European elections and Anne-Marie Waters, founder of the For Britain party and director of Sharia Watch UK are both included.

  227. Confused Old Misfit

    Damned poofters should show some respect.
    Without us heteros they wouldn’t be here!

  228. Geriatric Mayfly

    Unless we have some climate justice to fight the climate emergency, Tuvalu is fucked..

    Never forget an over zealous ABC/SBS busy body showing extreme concern over some fetid puddle which had invaded a local’s garden. The local himself in a state of irreversible panic. The camera, instead of zooming, suddenly panned and for a brief moment one could see in the background twenty metres of dazzling beach running down to a sunlit sea.

  229. John Constantine

    The first day of the rest of the war.

    Their animals australia, having lost the election and the shorten ban on live exports, ambush a shipment of sheep with a 700 page complaint.

    A consignment of 56,000 head of sheep due to be shipped on Saturday from Western Australia to the Middle East is in doubt due to a last minute, 700-page submission against the voyage by Animals Australia.

    O’Connor MP Rick Wilson said the exporter, Kuwait Livestock Transport and Trading, trading as RETWA in Australia, had been advised by the live trade regulator, the Department of Agriculture, that it had to respond to the submission by midday on Friday.

    “My concern is, and we’ve seen this play out before back last July when the Department lead Emanuel Exports to believe that they would receive permission, they asked them to delay loading 24 hours, and then withdrew their licence and stranded 65,000 sheep,” he said.

    June 1 marks the beginning of a three-month industry imposed moratorium in the trade during the northern summer. As that date approaches, Mr Wilson said he was concerned the sheep may never leave Australia.

    “There is no doubt that Animals Australia and I believe that people within the DAWR are continuing their vendetta against the live export trade, that is their absolute goal to delay the departure of this boat until after the first of June.”

    Ecoterrorists only have to prevent the ship leaving until the northern summer trade suspension starts on june first and they impose massive costs on the company.

    Comrades.

  230. Frank

    I reckon Chloe will send Tits a text while he is at the football.

    If she is looking around, Soupy looks like a man on the way up.

  231. MatrixTransform

    relieved … especially the small business people

    I bought coffee on Monday morning.
    The Cafe guy who I’ve come to know over time asked me tentatively if I was happy with the election result.
    …and that was enough to start my rant.

    Turns out that cafe guy (tiny back-street cafe guy) is far more political that you’d know.
    I was happy … he was over the moon.

    The sub-contractor we use for 95% of our installation work … happy like a dachshund with 2 dicks.

    The plumber on the job chuckled like a drain when I quipped about putting my Che Guevara t-shirt back in the wardrobe.

    just scratching the surface.

    Main Street has had a gutful of Labour’s bullshit

  232. JC

    Main Street has had a gutful of Labour’s bullshit

    Funny you mention it, because I’ve found the same reaction from ordinary folk. They appear contented the country made the right decision. From my barber, plumber and a few others.

  233. MatrixTransform

    Was it going to feature Alex Turnbull or something?

    they were hoping Billary Shorten would lose the boobs and grow a Lenin like goatee

  234. John Constantine

    https://korship.com/2015/10/ocean-drover/

    The Ocean Drover live sheep export ship is not a death barge, was owned by WLD wellards a battling asx listed high end livestock exporter [ until sunk capital near capsised them]

    If this boat isn’t good enough for eco terrorists, then no boat is.

    [Personally i suspect the demand for live animals for middle eastern religious slaughter festivals will always provide financial incentives in corrupt countries to beat the system. Australian supply chain regulations do make it unlikely that australian animals will be tortured to death, so we are change agents.]

    Any alternative market to the chicoms may be vital, we know not the hour or the day the Tyrant may choose to make a point.

  235. cohenite

    Candace Owens on Fox agreeing with Trump that maxine waters is a very low IQ person. Candace is very impressive.

  236. JC

    The trumpster seems to have awoken in a very angry mood.

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    As I have long been saying, and has now been proven out, this is a Witch Hunt against the Republican Party and myself, and it was the other side that caused the problem, not us!

  237. Geriatric Mayfly

    Soupy looks like a man on the way up.

    Reminds me. Wonder how Triggsy is bearing up. Must be painful trawling back through her own misfortunes in Queensland only to be taken unawares by those yokels wreaking even greater havoc.

  238. Gab

    Hey Arky, have you finished building that car?

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