What happens when you drink the Kool-Aide

Do people change politics or does politics change people?

Have a look at Dr Andrew Leigh, for a Doctor he is.  Before entering Parliament, he was measured, balanced and not insane.

It is not known, to TAFKAS atleast, whether Dr Leigh was a member of the Labor Party for long before entering Parliament, but whatever the case, he has clearly drunk the Labor Kool-Aide.  Maybe it’s because he lives in Canberra and represents an ACT electorate, but …

Exhibit A.  Have a look at this transcript of an interview Dr Leigh did on (of course) ABC today.  Perhaps his next step will be to apprentice for Dr Richard Denniss at the Australia Institute.

We’re the party of big ideas – Transcript, ABC Canberra Drive.

Dr Leigh’s measured assessment – the policies were right but the electors were to stupid to know what was good for them.

PS Dr Leigh.  Perhaps your ideas were big.  The problem was that it was your ideas that were STUPID.

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28 Responses to What happens when you drink the Kool-Aide

  1. Pyrmonter

    A quote suitable for such interventions:

    Die Lösung
    Nach dem Aufstand des 17. Juni
    Ließ der Sekretär des Schriftstellerverbands
    In der Stalinallee Flugblätter verteilen
    Auf denen zu lesen war, daß das Volk
    Das Vertrauen der Regierung verscherzt habe
    Und es nur durch verdoppelte Arbeit
    zurückerobern könne. Wäre es da
    Nicht doch einfacher, die Regierung
    Löste das Volk auf und
    Wählte ein anderes?

    Translation:
    The Solution
    After the uprising of the 17th of June
    The Secretary of the Writers’ Union
    Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
    Stating that the people
    Had forfeited the confidence of the government
    And could win it back only
    By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
    In that case for the government
    To dissolve the people
    And elect another?

  2. Roberto

    Was he the dill who didn’t understand about nominee shareholders?

  3. David Bidstrup

    And they call us deniers.

  4. stackja

    Andrew Leigh MP

    Qualifications and occupation before entering Federal Parliament
    B.A(Hons)(Syd.)
    LL.B(Hons)(Syd.)
    M.PA (Harvard)
    Ph.D (Harvard)
    F.A.S.S.A
    Lawyer, Minter Ellison, Sydney and London 1995-1997
    High Court Associate to Justice Michael Kirby 1997-98
    Senior Trade Adviser to Senator the Hon. PFS Cook 1998-2000
    Research Fellow, Progressive Policy Institute, Washington DC, 2001
    Professor of Economics, Australian National University 2004-10
    Principal Adviser, Australian Treasury 2008-09

    Real world? Minter Ellison?

  5. Tim Neilson

    Roberto
    #3021654, posted on May 21, 2019 at 3:21 pm

    Yes.

  6. Pyrmonter

    @ stackja

    Well, Minters are more ‘real world’ than several of their competitors. Imagine if he’s been at Bakers; or Malleys; or Allens.

  7. Bazinga

    A poor tradesman always blames the tools.

  8. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    They call it reform and visionary but its just plain theft through policy. These people are nasty and dishonest.

  9. Some History

    We’re the party of big pig ideas.

  10. Behind Enemy Lines

    What happens when you drink the Kool-Aide
    Posted on 2:38 pm, May 21, 2019 by The Artist Formerly Known As Spartacus
    Do people change politics or does politics change people?

    The real point is that politics attracts a certain type of person. . . .

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3021708, posted on May 21, 2019 at 4:33 pm
    They call it reform and visionary but its just plain theft through policy. These people are nasty and dishonest.

    . . . nasty and dishonest people.

    Nasty and dishonest people who want power to lord it over others.

    For them, two plus two will always equal five, or three, or whatever it takes.

    People like Leigh are just waiting for an opportunity to become their true selves.

    Even if 80% of politicians and their hangers-on were decent people, the other 20% floating there near top of the punch bowl will spoil it for everyone, every time.

  11. Roger

    Dr Leigh’s measured assessment – the policies were right but the electors were to stupid to know what was good for them.

    This is the Labor consensus report; only Albanese & Fitzgibbon ( has the latter kept his seat?) have come close to admitting that their wacko socialist policies – not their communication or their advertising budget – were the issue.

  12. TBH

    As I said on a Facebook thread with some left leaning friends on the weekend: you don’t bring people around to your point of view by insulting them and that’s exactly what the ALP and Greens have done in this election. They never made the case for their policies and therefore a lot people decided that they wanted to keep their money right where it was, thanks very much.

  13. Winston

    TBH – speaking of which, since when did not wanting to have more of your income taxed get redefined as the definition of greed by the ‘progressive’ left? If only Morrison and co could get on the front foot and loudly and proudly attack that 1984 style redefinition of language.

  14. The Fifth Bike Rider of the Apocalypse

    I think you’ll find that Kool-Aid (no e) was Jim Jones’ favourite beverage.
    Even this is disputed.
    There is a suggestion that it was KA’s competitor Favor Aid.
    Whichever one it was, it sure brought things to a standstill.

  15. The Fifth Bike Rider of the Apocalypse

    Oops Flavor Aid!

  16. Entropy

    As I recall, wasn’t Leigh one of a joint authorship of a bullshit bit of propaganda about how the ABC was if anything biased towards conservatives?

    It was clearly one of those pretend even handed papers constructed to build justification at a later date to promote certain policies. And to credential one Andrew Leigh for entre to a soft seat on the labor bench.

  17. Squirrel

    “We had been a united team – we are a united team – around those set of policies”

    And that unity is on full display now that the ALP Game of Drones contest is in full flight….

    The waffle in that interview is exactly what you would expect from someone who represents people who think that the answer to every problem, real and imagined, is more regulation, more public spending and more bureaucrats to administer it all.

    Do any of these magnificently credentialled people have any workable ideas on how government can be seriously streamlined so that poor little Straya has some hope of surviving in a fiercely globalist world – particularly once they succeed in closing down most of our remaining competitive industries?

  18. 2dogs

    It’s not really possible to know if an idea is stupid before testing it. We should give Dr Leigh and his supporters autonomy, so they can try their ideas out on themselves first.

  19. egg_

    “We had been a united team – we are a united team – around those set of policies”

    Outwardly, perhaps?
    However, when the knives are out for Leadership and the blame game starts (internally?)?

  20. egg_

    “We had been a united team – we are a united team – around those set of policies”

    Said one lemming to the others.

  21. “We had been a united team – we are a united team – around those set of policies”

    Perhaps the Labour Party would like to try being honest with themselves.
    Their plan stank. It’s as simple as that. It could not have been more pig ignorant even if it had been passed through a porcine alimentary canal.
    For Gods sake – it was delusional crud that only someone who was living in the Labour House of Mirrors could have seen any benefit to the nation in it.
    Only psychopaths try to live in the cloud palaces they build in their minds.

  22. Andrew Leigh is one the best things the Libs have going for them. Long may he produce white papers. With apologies to Jane Austen: “For what do we live, but to make sport for our [political opponents], and laugh at them in our turn?” Andrew Leigh provokes much mirth from my perspective.

  23. Hasbeen

    Well it appears as if they have learned one thing this election.

    They well never again tell the public what they plan to do to us, if they get into power.

    They believe that was their only mistake.

  24. iain russell

    ‘The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test’ by Tom Wolfe remains as relevant today as when T Wolfe wrote it back in 1968, especially wrt the Slime and Agents Orange, the $oro$ bot$ of the Magyar Mongrel.

  25. The BigBlueCat

    If drinking Kool-Aid is the Jim Jones reference it’s intended to be, then the Labor “true believers” certainly did that! They followed Bill Shorten and Chris Bowen like lambs to the slaughter, willingly and eagerly. They did not question the policies and where those policies would lead. They did not question the fairness of the policies – they were told they were fair and they believed. Rusted-on Labor is like that – “tell me what to believe, and I will believe it”. Pity about the rest of the electorate ….

    The only difference with Jim Jones is that all his supporters died. Same can’t be said for Labor – we’ll see them again next election cycle. I can only hope that Alan Jones (no relation to Jim) is right when he says that ScoMo has one 2 elections – 2019 and the next one.

  26. The BigBlueCat

    er won, not one ….

  27. The BigBlueCat

    Hasbeen
    #3022060, posted on May 21, 2019 at 10:17 pm
    Well it appears as if they have learned one thing this election.

    They well never again tell the public what they plan to do to us, if they get into power.

    They believe that was their only mistake.

    You are correct – it’s not that they weren’t clear in their message – they were too clear. Next time they will go back to hiding their agenda, reducing the size of the target on their backs, then expose their true policies once they get back into power.

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