Monday Forum: May 27, 2019

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  1. Knuckle Dragger

    John Wick is in tears.

    This cannot end well for all those that oppose John Wick.

  2. Bruce in WA

    Hmmm homemade Veal Schnitzel, and a coleslaw of cabbage, apple, carrot, apple cider vinegar and freshly ground cumin.
    served with baby potatoes, Best Foods mayo with a slice of lemon and too much salt.
    heaven!

    Stop it, you unfeeling swine!

    I’m on Liteneasy! (Lost 10.2 kg so far — and it costs less than my shopping did!)

  3. Some History

    Albodross: “What’s everyone else havin’?”

    https://imgur.com/oaMfzoF

  4. Geriatric Mayfly

    BoN.
    Every morning in capitalism, the loaves are lined up waiting for the people.
    Every morning in socialism, the people are lined up waiting for the loaves.

    And then there were the loaves (and fishes) to feed the five thousand. A different economic system altogether.

  5. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Cameron Mooney filling in for Riewoldt on AFL 360

    When the spectators were booing Adam Goodes, this was the shit who said that the cameras should be turned onto the crowds. Another member of the AFLagrad.

  6. MatrixTransform

    you unfeeling swine!

    did somebody mention bacon …?

  7. Bruce of Newcastle

    John Wick is in tears.
    This cannot end well for all those that oppose John Wick.

    Watched it for the first time on the other channel a few days ago.
    I felt sorry for all the orcs.

  8. DrBeauGan

    Remember that when you’re in Cuba DrB, and carefully check the chocolate fudge and white wine before you consume it.

    My 800 fast diet should be easy in Cuba, it will make me average. My intention is to stick to cans of diet coke ( which I have been told tastes like liquid copper), and fish. With the occasional well-cooked omelette.

    I don’t know if they have wine. Rum and Tequila, I gather, neither of which I like. I guess I need to try a Cuban margharita for broadening my education, but one will do it.

    I leave on June 13 if my visa comes through. Two weeks in Barcelona, then Havana Cuba. I shall try to get to the Dominican Republic if it looks easy. Barcelona is where I pick up 5,000 euros. Cuba doesn’t make it easy to use credit cards, I am told.

    So far, my only expenditure has been $117 for the visa application. Plus $30 fee to the bloody commonwealth bank. It starts going up when I get the flight tickets. Then when I pay outrageous sums for Barcelona hotels.

  9. Mark A

    Bruce in WA
    #3029419, posted on May 29, 2019 at 9:41 pm

    Stop it, you unfeeling swine!

    I’m on Liteneasy! (Lost 10.2 kg so far — and it costs less than my shopping did!)

    Not disputing, but you must have an expensive shopping list for food.

    No matter where you buy your prepared meals, home cooking from ingredients must be cheaper.
    |Not even a take-away place could survive otherwise, bulk buying or not.

    Good on you for losing 10k, congrats.

  10. cohenite

    DrBeauGan

    #3029427, posted on May 29, 2019 at 9:56 pm

    So, you’re in Cuba; don’t forget to send a postcard to numbers; he’ll be chuffed.

  11. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    21m
    Republicans cannot allow themselves to again lose the Senate seat in the Great State of Alabama. This time it will be for Six Years, not just Two. I have NOTHING against Roy Moore, and unlike many other Republican leaders, wanted him to win. But he didn’t, and probably won’t……..If Alabama does not elect a Republican to the Senate in 2020, many of the incredible gains that we have made during my Presidency may be lost, including our Pro-Life victories. Roy Moore cannot win, and the consequences will be devastating….Judges and Supreme Court Justices!

  12. jupes

    ABC chairwoman Ita Buttrose has said some staff at the broadcaster unconsciously let their biases show through, as she revealed she had no plans to cut jobs despite the almost $84 million budget reduction facing the organisation.

    “Sometimes I think we might be biased. I think sometimes we could do with more diversity of views,” Ms Buttrose told ABC Radio on Wednesday. “Sometimes I think, people without really knowing it, let a bias show through.”

    FFS Ita! Everyone there knows exactly who they are barracking for. They have been doing it for years and this election they doubled down. And surely you know that halting indexation is not a “budget reduction”.

    Grip it up or fuck off.

  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Every morning in capitalism, the loaves are lined up waiting for the people.
    Every morning in socialism, the people are lined up waiting for the loaves.

    Long standing friends of my family – now, both gone to God, fled the Soviet invasion of Hungary, in 1956, in the best Scarlett Pimpernel tradition, hiding under a cartload of potatoes.

    They maintained that socialism should have been treated in the same way as any other scientific experiment – thoroughly tested on animals, before allowed to be inflicted on human beings.

  14. mh

    Creepy Joe doubles down

    Former Vice President Joe Biden cozied up to a 10-year-old girl on Tuesday, despite his promise to control his personal interactions with women and children.

    “I’ll bet you’re as bright as you are good-looking,” Biden said to a girl who asked him a question at an American Federation of Teachers town hall in Houston, Texas.

    …As he introduced the child to the press, he leaned over and spoke in her ear, before finishing his speech…

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/28/biden-praises-10-year-old-girl-as-good-looking-and-holds-her-shoulders/

  15. feelthebern

    A good doco on the box tonight.
    About a Vietnam vet who goes back to rescue some people.
    There’s a double cross & action galore.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    So, you’re in Cuba; don’t forget to send a postcard to numbers; he’ll be chuffed.

    Dien Bien Phu is on my bucket list – should I send Numbers a post card featuring Ho Chi Minh’s mausoleum?

  17. mh

    EXCLUSIVE: Frail Chicago businessman, 76, charged with the SAME crime as Jussie Smollett was fined and now has a criminal record, while the disgraced actor who cost the city $130,000 by refusing to admit culpability had all charges dropped

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7073143/How-Robert-Racky-got-criminal-record-Jussie-Smollett-didnt.html

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Don’t have a link, but the front page of the Oz reports a boatload of “asylum seekers” has just been gripped by pussers…

  19. Armadillo

    Every morning in capitalism, the loaves are lined up waiting for the people.
    Every morning in socialism, the people are lined up waiting for the loaves.

    That’s very wrong on a couple of levels. We can bake our own bread for starters.

  20. Knuckle Dragger

    Stand by for claims of torture by being made to grip hot engine exhausts, and human rights breaches for lack of prayer rooms aboard.

    Moustachioed, hairy backed 13 year olds will soon be here again.

  21. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Moustachioed, hairy backed 13 year olds will soon be here again.

    That’s no way to speak of future Greens candidates.

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Coalition draws fire over howitze­rs

    exclusive
    Ben Packham
    Political Reporter
    An hour ago May 29, 2019
    16 Comments

    Scott Morrison is being urged to rethink his election pledge to build 30 self-propelled howitze­rs at a cost of more than $1 billion, with defence experts questioning the strategic merits of the commitment.

    The Prime Minister promised to build the artillery pieces in Geelong, 75km southwest of Melbourne, as he battled to retain­ the local seat of Corangamite — which the Coalition subsequently lost — reviving a plan dumped seven years ago by the Gillard government.

    Mr Morrison said building and maintaining the tank-like 155mm self-propelled guns would create 350 jobs in Victoria’s second city while addressing a defence “capability gap”.

    But the Australian Strategic Policy Institute’s executive direct­or Peter Jennings questioned­ whether the howitzer purchase was the best use of $1bn from the Defence budget.

    Mr Jennings said he had long been a supporter of Australia having tanks as a way of protecting infantry and adding firepower, “but I don’t really see a strong strategic case for what one is going to do with 30 self-propelled howitzers”.

    “I think everybody recognises that this was an announcement that occurred in the heat of an election campaign, and probably the smart thing to do now would be for the government to test with the Defence organisation if they think that is the best way to proceed.

    From the Oz. Self propelled howitzers? surely easier to buy from overseas?

  23. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From notafan at 2:17 pm:

    “I’ve been arguing with the Catholic Church about women since I was eight years old and I went on a crusade to become an altar girl,” she says with a mischievous grin. “I openly disagreed with the Church’s position on same-sex marriage, artificial contraception, divorce.“

    Not much left of Catholic doctrine for KKK, must be lots of pages missing from her bible

    London to a brick on that she played no such role.

  24. John Constantine

    https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/fire-weapon-terrorism?fbclid=IwAR2ktH4UF4As2-behf3-UiEut8

    Mentions how the pallis have mastered cheap reliable mobile phone triggered improvised arson devices, and how the plans for these devices are available online to activists.

    Used for extortion of crop growers in the middle east and punishment of dissenters.

    Link the arson device to a motorbike battery out the bush and it can be triggered a week after it is set, phoned in from a city suburb.

    Link enough of them, from one end of the state to the other and detonate at the same time in peak ash friday conditions and the ability of airborne water bombers to control early is swamped.

    Comrades.

  25. John Constantine

    Do more damage with a thousand dollars worth of roadside improvised arson devices during fire season than a billion dollars of howitzers would ever do.

    disproportionate warfare.

    Comrades.

  26. Black Ball

    Ant’s Rant on Sports Tonight was a ludicrous attempt to defend Smiffy and Fuckwit Warner. Cringeworthy at best.

  27. Knuckle Dragger

    30 self-propelled howitzers.

    Fine. Tank destroyers, counterbattery fire, artillery platforms.

    But not at $33.3 million apiece. It’s artillery on wheels.

    For $33.3 million, it’d want to be able to fly, be gold plated, able to shoot down spacecraft and provide therapeutic massage to the gunners.

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For $33.3 million, it’d want to be able to fly, be gold plated, able to shoot down spacecraft and provide therapeutic massage to the gunners.

    Buy the G6 version from the South Africans. It’s designed to use wheels, rather then tracks, and would be far better adapted to use in Australian conditions.

  29. Armadillo

    Defence spending should be inward focused.

    Errr….guys/gals you aren’t spending billions of dollars on submarines. No. Just NO. Fuck off with your high heels, red lipstick and gender equality.

    End of story? NO.

    Every last one of these dickheads need to be cleared out of the military.

  30. Armadillo

    We paid Australian military men to clean out caves in Afghanistan.

    Meanwhile, our COC was wearing high heals and lipstick. VICPOL is much more repulsive.

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Every last one of these dickheads need to be cleared out of the military.

    It will never happen Armadillo, they’ve all worked their way into good, safe office jobs, and anyone who cleans out a cave in the sandpit will be regarded as someone who didn’t have the sense to get a good, office job.

  32. Knuckle Dragger

    Several hundred corpses later, John Wick got a new dog. And a Staffy at that.

    Although the chicky brunette killer was smoking hot. No gunt there, at all.

  33. Old School Conservative

    Several hundred corpses later, John Wick got a new dog. And a Staffy at that.

    Thanks.
    I was going to watch it.
    For the first time.
    Not now.

  34. Armadillo

    It really shits me, Zulu.

    These people get themselves so entrenched, without ever being in a trench.

  35. Knuckle Dragger

    By ‘Staffy’, OSC, I meant ‘giraffe’.

    My apologies. I mistakenly assumed everyone had watched it.

    On the bright side, you can now watch III and get the jokes.

    Which I won’t tell you about.

  36. Armadillo

    As always, it won’t be the military that end up fighting. It will be the civilians that turn the tide.

  37. Black Ball

    Only thing missing from John Wick’s wardrobe is a MAGA cap.

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    These people get themselves so entrenched, without ever being in a trench.

    They used to be called POGO’s – Personnel On Garrison Operations – it was a mortal insult, and I do remember four fairly monumental brawls as a result..”Fvcking POGO’s” hurled across the floor of the “wet canteen” was usually the start, and “Fvcking grunts” hurled back was usually the key for the Regimental Police to intervene.

  39. Old School Conservative

    No worries KD.
    I’ll just skip to II.
    (I guess he kills a lot of people in that one too!)

  40. EvilElvis

    It’s Telstra, Leigh. Don’t even ask.
    Telstra’s pricing policies are one of the great unanswered mysteries of the universe.

    LL, just watch the slimy bastards. I had the same thing a few months ago, ‘Bonus’ data added after a contract period ended, more data than I could hope to use! Suddenly this billing period I’m 12 gig over at $10 a gig. Seriously, WTF! The Cat only takes so much data.

  41. John Constantine

    https://www.grandtournation.com/thegrandtour/jeremy-clarkson-confirms-new-standalone-farming-show-for-amazon-prime/?fbclid=IwAR0zTm1pqEYrZE2oIJ0hWZI_Td72KZM5cFB6tQdhcb6E2I5P5bYBvQEWrxA

    “When you till the soil or plough in weeds, it releases carbon into the atmosphere. So you think ‘OK, I won’t plough, I’ll just spray the weeds.’ But that’s bad for the bees,” said Mr Clarkson.

    “Every decision you make as a farmer is bad for some reason or another.”

    He has even changed up his diet to reflect his recent health scares and current situations. “I do eat chicken,” he said. “But that’s just a vegetable with a head.”

  42. Mark A

    Re. J C and farming.

    “Scientists calculate that we have just 90 years before we run out of food, because of soil depletion,” he said. “That’s just 90 more harvests.”

    Used to have a lot of respect for scientists.
    Someone, should remind them that agriculture has been going on for thousands of years on the same soils.

  43. JC

    “Scientists calculate that we have just 90 years before we run out of food, because of soil depletion,” he said. “That’s just 90 more harvests.”

    Oh God, the Club of Rome rears it’s ugly head again. That’s so 60s.

  44. Rossini

    Light reading again tonight! Just saying…….

  45. EvilElvis

    Don’t skip, OSC!

    It’s a great set up movie and a great standalone flick as well.

  46. Zyconoclast

    Mentioned above

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/boatload-of-20-sri-lankan-asylum-seekers-brought-to-christmas-island-report-20190529-p51skd.html

    An Australian navy vessel brought 20 Sri Lankan asylum seekers to the Christmas Island detention centre where they were held for a number of days before being sent home on Wednesday, according to a report.

  47. Zatara

    Mueller making first live statement in 2 years…..

  48. Black Ball

    Would have left 2 weeks ago zyco. Fully anticipating a Tits Shorten government.

  49. RobK

    Tom,
    David Rowe link got an error 404.

  50. RobK

    Thanks Tom. My morning fix.

  51. None

    Ken Wyatt says systems have to be in place before indigenous people get a voice in parliament

    Did I not tell you? Yeah want to ask him what what the f*** he’s doing in Parliament if he’s not being a voice not just for Aboriginal people but for everyone he represents.

  52. MatrixTransform

    We can bake our own bread

    after lining up for the flour and then burning yr furniture to heat the community Dutch Oven yous had to loot from the old Aussie Disposals store.

    Today’s fare … Shih Tzu sandwiches.

  53. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom. I didn’t get the Michael Ramirez I got an error message instead. Not nearly as much fun.

  54. Top Ender

    How much would YOU pay to hear Julie Bishop speak?

    What topic would YOU want Julie Bishop to speak on?

    Ms Bishop signed last week with Sydney firm Claxton Speakers International to manage the growing number of requests from organisations that want her to speak at events and conferences.

    It is understood that Ms Bishop will be able to charge tens of thousands of dollars for a single speech. While she could be paid up to $50,000 per engagement in Aust­ralia, this could increase markedly for overseas events.

    Ms Bishop said she planned to speak about topics including foreign policy, her personal journey, leadership, global challenges and the fourth industrial revolution.

    Me, I’ll pay $1.50 to hear her speak on Simon and Garfunkel’s “The Sound of Silence.”

  55. bespoke

    Now that Mark A guy is OS permanently we ca speak freely about him.

  56. One Vegan doesn’t make a Salad

    Thank you Tom. ‘Men in Barack’ for me.

  57. DrBeauGan

    Me, I’ll pay $1.50 to hear her speak on Simon and Garfunkel’s “The Sound of Silence.”

    As much as that? You must have money to burn.

  58. Bruce of Newcastle

    My old laptop is only infected with red wine, but surely it’s worth at least $500,000.

    Laptop full of malware sells for $1.3M

    As Engadget reports, the laptop forms an art piece called “The Persistence of Chaos” commissioned by cybersecurity company Deep Instinct and created by contemporary internet artist Guo O Dong. It uses a blue 10.2-inch Samsung NC10-14GB laptop from 2008 which runs Windows XP SP3 and has been air gapped “to prevent against spread of the malware.”

    What makes the laptop an art piece is the software it contains. In total, six different pieces of malware are installed and active including ILOVEYOU, MyDoom, SoBig, WannaCry, DarkTequila, and BlackEnergy.

    Computer viruses are now modern art.

  59. DrBeauGan

    I have just discovered that the Spanish for bugger off is largarse. It isn’t pronounced large arse though, which would make it easy to remember. Still, it cheers me up early in the morning to find out important things like this.

    Nearly as good as Tom’s Toons.

  60. calli

    FFS Ita! Everyone there knows exactly who they are barracking for. They have been doing it for years and this election they doubled down. And surely you know that halting indexation is not a “budget reduction”.

    Jupes, Ita has taken a shot across the bows. A little rangefinder.

    I’d like to wait and see which one of those entitled numpties pops their head up. Next one might be midships.

  61. hzhousewife

    Another reminder…….

    A heads up from Jim Simpson of the Five Dock Climate Realists, Alan Jones in conversation with Dr Patrick Moore tomorrow morning Sydney time (Thursday) 30th May 2019 at approx. 7:10am AEST & all Macquarie radio network stations (eg 2GB Sydney, 4BC Brisbane, 2CC Canberra etc) Australia wide! Share widely.

  62. calli

    In other news, Sri Lankan asylum seekers intercepted during the election have been popped back on a plane after some assessments and health checks. Backed the wrong horse.

    I see Jane Caro has done a Cher and did not move to NZ following the coalition victory. Can we do a job lot to Sri Lanka?

  63. calli

    Link to asylum seeker story.

  64. Mater

    They maintained that socialism should have been treated in the same way as any other scientific experiment – thoroughly tested on animals, before allowed to be inflicted on human beings.

    Don’t stress, Zulu. They think of us that way.
    Cognitive dissonance is their strength.

    From an SJW Facebook page yesterday:
    “Haters are not welcome here. We hate haters.”

  65. Cuba doesn’t make it easy to use credit cards, I am told.

    Waste of time taking them, unless you’re staying in posh hotel.
    Pensiones particulares are the best accommodation options.
    Clean, comfy, air conditioned, and you get to meet the locals.

    So far, my only expenditure has been $117 for the visa application.

    Application?
    Nobody “applies” for a Cuban Visa.
    You can buy them at any number of South American airports.
    We paid $50 each for ours at Panama City on the way in from Washington DC.

    I don’t know when you’re travelling, but avoid August/October.
    That’s the most humid time of the year, and also the hurricane season.
    December to May is the best time to travel there.
    June/July (when we were there) is OK, but it gets hot.
    The evenings, especially by the sea are great, though.

  66. Iced roads in Dannograd.

    Globule Warmening at its best.

  67. zyconoclast

    From one of Tom’s toons

    WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court upheld an Indiana law Tuesday that requires the burial or cremation of fetal remains following an abortion, but the justices refused to consider the state’s effort to ban abortions based on sex, race or disability.

    Both parts of the abortion law, hailed by Gov. Mike Pence in 2016 before he became vice president as a “comprehensive pro-life measure that affirms the value of all human life,” had been challenged successfully in federal appeals court by Planned Parenthood.

  68. zyconoclast

    It is understood that Ms Bishop will be able to charge tens of thousands of dollars for a single speech. While she could be paid up to $50,000 per engagement in Australia, this could increase markedly for overseas events.

    How much would George Papadopoulos pay for a private drinks meeting?

  69. Leigh Lowe

    Ms Bishop signed last week with Sydney firm Claxton Speakers International to manage the growing number of requests from organisations that want her to speak at events and conferences.

    It is understood that Ms Bishop will be able to charge tens of thousands of dollars for a single speech. While she could be paid up to $50,000 per engagement in Aust­ralia, this could increase markedly for overseas events.

    Yeah, nah.
    “Growing number of requests” = “the phone has stopped ringing so I need some solid PR”
    “Could be paid up to $50,000” = “it will look really cheap when I charge $5k to address your Wymminses Day morning tea”.

  70. Mother Lode

    Ms Bishop signed last week with Sydney firm Claxton Speakers International…

    ‘Claxon’, more like.

  71. zyconoclast

    How Oxford University’s ‘sea change’ in admissions will work

    Two new schemes designed to boost proportion of underprivileged new students to 25% by 2023

    The University of Oxford is to offer places to students from disadvantaged backgrounds who fail to get the required A-level grades under new plans aimed at boosting diversity.

  72. They maintained that socialism should have been treated in the same way as any other scientific experiment

    Funny that….
    Australia has been largely “Socialist” since we’ve had a national healthcare system, free public education and compulsory superannuation.
    We also pioneered compulsory universal suffrage, (the Australian Ballot), and for a fair while had free universities.
    .

  73. calli

    I wonder why none of the asylum seekers had a “legitimate claim” to asylum? The media is running the line that they left soon after the church bombings and during the election campaign.

    Could it be that they were of a non-persecuted religion?

  74. calli

    Is Australia giving Glowball Gore the cold shoulder?

  75. custard

    Alan Jones about to interview Patrick Moore co-founder of Greenpeace

  76. zyconoclast

    Whose Best Friend? Dogs and Racial Boundary Maintenance in a Multiracial Neighborhood†

    In human–animal studies, dogs are often framed as promoters of interactions among strangers. Yet very few of these studies discuss how racial structure shapes human‐to‐human engagement. Similarly, race scholarship and urban studies have failed to incorporate human–animal studies fully to better understand racial dynamics and inequality in U.S. cities. I use in‐depth interview data from an 18‐month study of Creekridge Park, an urban, multiracial, and mixed‐income neighborhood in Durham, North Carolina, to explore the role of dogs for white residents. I focus on identifying if dogs helped bridge social differences between white residents and their Black and Latinx neighbors in a racially and economically diverse neighborhood. I find that while my white respondents shared many examples of dogs facilitating neighborly relationships and friendship, these relationships were largely between same‐race individuals.By reinforcing a white, urban, middle‐class habitus, white residents used dogs to maintain interracial boundaries and feelings of safety, as well as navigate racial‐ethnic differences between themselves and their Black and Latinx neighbors. These findings point to the necessity of more research that addresses racial structure and human–animal studies to better understand contemporary urban spaces.

  77. Candy

    Persecuted Christians seeking asylum from Sri Lanka?

  78. DrBeauGan

    Whose Best Friend? Dogs and Racial Boundary Maintenance in a Multiracial Neighborhood†

    I checked after betting myself the “research” was done by a woman. It was. Women like this sort of sociological stuff, it allows them to pretend to be scientists without the need to be able to do Maths.

    We’re overburdened with too much money and too little sense if we fund this crap.

  79. Notafan

    Words mean what I want them to mean when I want them to mean what suits me at any given moment.

  80. Entropy

    How much would George Papadopoulos pay for a private drinks meeting

    Hmmm,who to choose: drinks with Julie Bishop or an evening at home with wife simona?

  81. Mother Lode

    Could it be that they were of a non-persecuted religion?

    It is like Typhoid Mary. These little bands go out in the world, leaving their home countries because they are shitholes, they get into another country carrying the infection and then that country gets sick and begins to turn into a shithole – and all the while they themselves are unchanging and unaffected. Just as lazy, improvident, ignorant, spiteful, contemptuous, and self-entitled as before.

    Question is whether they realise they are the reason their own countries are shitholes, and wherever they get their way they will end up hating it.

    And just to be clear here, I am referring to the ones that do move from one county to another with the attitude that the new one is just there for the picking.

  82. Top Ender

    The University of Oxford is to offer places to students from disadvantaged backgrounds who fail to get the required A-level grades under new plans aimed at boosting diversity.

    This is going to work on so many levels.

    People who don’t meet the entry requirements getting admission to courses,

    which will lead to

    People who haven’t met the pass requirements being given degrees

    which will lead to

    People being given degrees who can’t do the work asked of them

    which will lead to

    People driving over bridges designed by people who couldn’t design them properly

    and

    People being surgically operated on by surgeons who couldn’t operate properly

    and

    People being dispensed medicines distributed by chemists who couldn’t distinguish one drug from another

    But in the end it will lead to more diversity.

    Or something.

    Thank you! Thank you very much! I’m here all week! Thanks again! Try the veal – it’s terrific.

  83. One set of religious extremists holding the Israeli nation hostage……

    Israelis will head to the polls again for an unprecedented second election in September after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu failed to form a governing coalition.

    A key right-wing party and religious parties had refused to compromise on the divisive issue of mandatory military service for ultra-orthodox men, causing the coalition talks to fail.

    Apparently they can’t serve in the army because they would all be needed to pray in a national emergency.

  84. Notafan

    Sri Lankans always get sent home, wouldn’t matter what religion or whether they were Sinhalese or Tamil s. Hoping for a Shorten government, obviously.

  85. Mother Lode

    Words mean what I want them to mean when I want them to mean what suits me at any given moment.

    Humpty Dumpty (Through the Looking Glass)?

    “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

  86. Tom

    I didn’t get the Michael Ramirez I got an error message instead.

    You gave me a start there, Beaugy, as I had another link go belly-up this morning when I mistyped something.

    But the Ramirez is good to go — America’s best cartoonist delivering one of his typical dense intellectual observations coated with his Goonish caricatures. I love his Obambi.

    Ramirez’s website, michaelpramirez.com (don’t forget the “p”), is my first American stop every morning.

  87. Candy

    Odd that Bishop or Abbott did not get the US ambassador job but a little known Sinodinos and struggling with cancer, a bone marrow transfusion a few months ago, does. Seems a big risk to his fragility. Why on earth.

  88. Leigh Lowe

    Still getting an error on the Ramirez link Tom.

  89. Arky

    Numberwang, did you just post a snarky comment in favour of Israeli conscription?
    WTF?

  90. calli

    My point was that the media, by linking the Sri Lankans to the church bombings, was sowing the seed that Australia had sent back victims.

    I don’t think that’s too long a bow to draw, given their past form.

  91. Cassie of Sydney

    “Arky
    #3029550, posted on May 30, 2019 at 7:46 am
    Numberwang, did you just post a snarky comment in favour of Israeli conscription?
    WTF?”

    The truth is is that some ultra Orthodox do join the army. But the Jooo hating grub isn’t interested in facts. Probably because…being the Jooo hating grub he is….he is always quite happy to see more Jooos to die.

  92. Leigh Lowe

    Thanks for the heads-up on Telstra Elvis and all.
    Confirms my suspicions.
    Your data allowance increases then, mysteriously, your actual usage tends to jump up as well.
    Will be intersting to see what happens now.

  93. Notafan

    It’s a scrawny link Calli, and knowing who the ‘real victims’ of the Sri Lankan attacks are could have been anybody.

    Backlash!

  94. stackja

    Rothwell crash kills 14-year-old Maleny boy who was in a stolen car with five other children

    A 14-year-old boy has died at the scene of a horrific crash north of Brisbane, as new details confirm all six people in an allegedly stolen car were under 16, with the youngest just 10 and the driver 14. Pictures: 7 News Brisbane, Moreton Alert
    Gerard Cockburn, The Courier-Mail
    Subscriber only
    |
    May 30, 2019 6:02am

    A HIGH-SPEED collision in a stolen and overcrowded car has killed a 14-year-old passenger and left five other youths injured in hospital.

    The Mazda SUV was allegedly stolen from a shopping centre at Kallangur hours before the 14-year-old driver allegedly ran a red light at Rothwell, hit another car and slammed into a pole.

    The impact trapped all six occupants of the car and closed the intersection of Anzac Ave and Wattle Rd for several hours.

    The 14-year-old front passenger could not be saved and died at the scene.

  95. Cassie of Sydney

    “Candy
    #3029547, posted on May 30, 2019 at 7:44 am
    Odd that Bishop or Abbott did not get the US ambassador job but a little known Sinodinos and struggling with cancer, a bone marrow transfusion a few months ago, does. Seems a big risk to his fragility. Why on earth.”

    Candy, I think he is happy to be rid of Sinodinos.

  96. Diogenes

    The University of Oxford is to offer places to students from disadvantaged backgrounds who fail to get the required A-level grades under new plans aimed at boosting diversity.

    I post the following the following extract from ElReg without comment

    “Not tonight, love.” We’ve all been there – sometimes life throws you a curveball and the ensuing despondency firmly shelves making the beast with two backs for a while.
    In the case of 52-year-old Kuldeep Mann, it was failing to get on a PhD course at James Cook University in Queensland that demolished his sex drive.
    At least that’s what he has alleged in a lawsuit against the uni, demanding AU$3.125m (£1.7m) for “mental torture/psychological day-to-day sufferings” he claims to have endured at the hands of the institution.
    “Everything was affected including my sex life,” he sniffled in an interview with Australia’s 9News.
    “I… I’m no longer… wanting to be on the bed… to share bed with my partner. There is no such desire… no desire for anything.”
    The 7/11 staffer said he paid AU$20,000 and studied two subjects to get on the Social Sciences PhD in 2015, but claimed he was accused of plagiarism and told he wasn’t “up to the mark”.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05/29/exstudent_52_suing_university_for_au3m_after_phd_rejection_destroyed_mojo/

    The comments are not kind

  97. Mater

    Numberwang, did you just post a snarky comment in favour of Israeli conscription?
    WTF?

    Cognitive dissonance is their strength.

  98. Notafan

    No-one in Vietnam or Sri Lanka is going to meet the UNHCR guidelines for refugee status. That’s why they go straight home.

    Remember local advocates squealing about Tamils war crimes etc

    No dice.

  99. stackja

    Diogenes
    #3029557, posted on May 30, 2019 at 7:57 am

    Oxford degree worthless.

  100. calli

    I wonder how many boatloads of hopefuls have perished because of the idiotic boosting of Labor’s election chances? Many would have seen it as a sure thing.

    The ripples of sowing deceit roll far and wide.

  101. Notafan

    It’s not cog dis.

    It’s hatred for certain people, not quite as human as one particular pale stale male.

  102. Arky

    In the case of 52-year-old Kuldeep Mann, it was failing to get on a PhD course at James Cook University in Queensland that demolished his sex drive.

    ..
    No one should be having sex at that age.
    Repulsive.

  103. stackja

    Pastry giant Bakers Delight bakes last loaf as it sets date for business closures

    DARWIN’S economic downturn has claimed another victim with pastry giant Bakers Delight forced to withdraw from the Territory
    RAPHAELLA SAROUKOS, NT News
    Subscriber only
    |
    May 29, 2019 5:05pm

    DARWIN’S economic downturn has claimed another victim with pastry giant Bakers Delight forced to withdraw from the Territory.

    Bakers Delight joint chief executive Elise Gillespie confirmed the company’s remaining franchises at Darwin City and Casuarina Square would close on June 5th and 12th respectively.

    “Unfortunately, with the economic climate in Darwin, we haven’t been able to sustain businesses,” she said.

  104. DrBeauGan

    But the Ramirez is good to go — America’s best cartoonist delivering one of his typical dense intellectual observations coated with his Goonish caricatures. I love his Obambi.

    Ramirez’s website, michaelpramirez.com (don’t forget the “p”), is my first American stop

    Still didn’t work for me, Tom. Maybe my speed is too slow and it is timing out. I’ll try his website.

  105. Diogenes

    Oxford degree worthless.

    Stackja, that wasn’t my quote.

    My surprise was at JCU having some standards

  106. Notafan

    The two quotes from the alleged PhD candidate suggest he hasn’t got a very good grasp of the English language.

    Serves James Cook right for accepting him in the first place

  107. Mother Lode

    WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court upheld an Indiana law Tuesday that requires the burial or cremation of fetal remains following an abortion, but the justices refused to consider the state’s effort to ban abortions based on sex, race or disability.

    Ginsberg had a whinge about the use of ‘expectant mother’, presumably thinking that the woman may not be planning on being a mother – although the simple fact is that the state of pregnancy is, in nature, about becoming a mother, while deciding to get a doctor in there with scissors and a vacuum is probably not nature. I suppose it carries with it unwelcome implications such as the foetus being a human since mothers give birth to humans.

    I think her objection is that if we can call pregnant women ‘expectant mothers’, we could start calling Ginsberg an ‘expectant corpse’.

  108. Tom

    Leigh at 7.46am, I’ve triple-checked my Ramirez links and they’re all good. I suspect there’s a gremlin in the operating system you and Beaugy are using — just another snafu in the never-ending technical mumbo-jumbo that we humble consumers are forced to deal with because the fascist, sociopathic “experts” in Silicon Valley keep sending defective software into the market. Glad they don’t design aeroplanes.

  109. Mother Lode

    America’s best cartoonist delivering one of his typical dense intellectual observations coated with his Goonish caricatures. I love his Obambi.

    I must admit, he is my favourite too.

  110. calli

    PhD hopeful reminds me of BootsWoman.

    Apply for a job you can’t do, fail and sue.

    It’s always someone else’s fault. And it’s a nice little earner.

  111. stackja

    ‘You just get left behind’: Mum killed with four kids in crash shared heartbreaking Facebook post before tragedy

    A mother killed with her four kids in a fiery car accident said she felt “alone” and “left behind”, in a pleading message shared before she died.
    news.com.au
    May 30, 2019 6:20am

    A mother killed in a fiery crash with her four children posted a heartbreaking message on Facebook before she died.

    Charmaine Harris McLeod, from the southern Queensland city of Hervey Bay, wrote on the page for her local church that she felt friendless and abandoned after leaving a relationship.

    “I feel as if, if you cant or dont grasp God/healing etc, when they think you should have then you just get left behind,” wrote the 35-year-old single mother on April 15.

    “You would think there would be support/help, but very very little, they were always too busy, not one piece of clothing or a piece of bread was offered, let alone shelter.

    “I feel as if I’ve done it alone… these are the things Jesus did, he ate with the less fortunate.. I’ve asked for prayer before surgery & yes I’ve had a lot of surgeries but they dont, they do for others though.”

  112. DrBeauGan

    Got it. That was the Men in Barack one, I presume. Yes, Ramirez is good.

  113. calli

    Tom, I opened the Ramirez earlier and it was fine. Going back to the same link, it has gone BOA.

  114. Numberwang, did you just post a snarky comment in favour of Israeli conscription?
    WTF?

    I posted a factual report.
    It’s not “in favour of” or “against” anything.
    Now I understand that’s a foreign concept on Catallaxy, but try very very hard and you might get it.
    There’s no hidden message, but it does clearly demonstrate that the Israeli government is in thrall to a bunch of religious extremists.

    Very few who post here comprehend the difference between fact and opinion, and reality and fantasy, and most are too dense to deal with any concept that goes beyond a binary position.
    That accounts for the confusion and bewilderment with my post.

  115. DrBeauGan

    Mr Mann says in his petition that the university’s treatment has killed him intellectually. “I have lost all the zeal to do anything as a social scientist in the future.”

    Well, something good has come out of it.

  116. Notafan

    Arthur Sidonis is fully recovered from his cancer. Apparently lots of people do recover from cancer and go on to live full and productive lives.

    Neither Julie Bishop nor Tony Abbott are in the parliament, Bishop reportedly didn’t want the US ambassadorship, she’ll make a lot more money on the speaking circuit to fund her polo playing lifestyle, one would assume that Morrison wanted to get rid of Sidonis who has swallowed the green lie or maybe Arthur just wanted out, I suspect that the ambassadorship job isn’t quite as hectic is being in parliament.

    Arthur sindonos

  117. Arky

    Got you.
    Avoiding conscription on religious grounds: extremist.
    Avoiding draft to boogy down with hippy chicks: heroism.

  118. Notafan

    From PhD to 7/11.

    Puzzling.

  119. calli

    It’s all opinion, Arky. Opinions about news articles, about posters, about just about anything.

  120. dover_beach

    I’ve listened a little to Tom Elliott on Drive 3AW the last two afternoons and he has been discussing a local Christian school on the Mornington Peninsula advertising for a barista requiring that they accept the Nicene creed. It’s clear he doesn’t understand why a Christian school would want someone working for them that accepts basic Christian belief even if in this case they are simply a barista. He has the typically atomized liberal view that any barista whatever their beliefs should be able to work in a Christian school and simply fails to understand that those working therein need to themselves reflect in thought and practice the spirit of the school. Of course, the human rights bureaucrat he had on yesterday failed to recognize this as well.

  121. Cassie of Sydney

    The Jooo hating grub posts a link to an ABC site….and calls it a “factual report”…….and then calls us here “dense”….no irony there.

    As I said above……he obviously wants more dead Jooos. At least the grub is transparent about his Jooo hatred.

  122. Notafan

    Was anyone actually confused or bewildered?

    A stereotypical progressive, anti-semitic, who hates his own culture, western civilization etcetera etcetera

  123. Tom

    A stereotypical progressive, anti-semitic, who hates his own culture, western civilization etcetera etcetera

    You left out dumb as dogshit.

  124. Des Deskperson

    ‘“Candy
    #3029547, posted on May 30, 2019 at 7:44 am
    Odd that Bishop or Abbott did not get the US ambassador job but a little known Sinodinos and struggling with cancer, a bone marrow transfusion a few months ago, does. Seems a big risk to his fragility. Why on earth.”

    Candy, I think he is happy to be rid of Sinodinos.’

    That plus it’s a very easy job and he will have access to the best of medical attention. Abbott would not make a good ambassador to the US or any where else – he shoots his mouth off – and Bishop seems to have pissed off a lot of people.

    Bishop is, never the less, exactly the sort of shallow, stick-to-the-brief cocktail hoover who would perform the job satisfactorily.

  125. Notafan

    No Des it’s a very important and influential role, you have to play golf with Trumpie and stuff.

    MH will be here to correct your views shortly.

  126. The Jooo hating grub posts a link to an ABC site….and calls it a “factual report”…….and then calls us here “dense”….no irony there.

    After you’ve finished throwing your tanty, and abusing me, tell me where the original report is incorrect, and these also if you can.

  127. cohenite

    stackja

    #3029573, posted on May 30, 2019 at 8:06 am

    ‘You just get left behind’: Mum killed with four kids in crash shared heartbreaking Facebook post before tragedy

    Murder/suicide?

  128. stackja

    Burn-Out’ Is Now a Legitimate Syndrome According to The WHO. Here … https://www.sciencealert.com
    15 hours ago – Workplace ‘burn-out’ has become such a serious health issue in the modern age, it’s now been reclassified by the World Health Organisation.

  129. calli

    I think so, cohenite. Tragic.

    Self-pity is dangerous and toxic. And we live in a society that actively encourages it.

  130. Boambee John

    In the case of 52-year-old Kuldeep Mann, it was failing to get on a PhD course at James Cook University in Queensland that demolished his sex drive.

    I suspect that Kulderp has reached (earlier than the average) Stage 7 of the Ages of Man.

    Stage 1, Tri-daily,
    Stage 2, Daily,
    Stage 3, Try daily,
    Stage4, Tri-weekly,
    Stage 5, Weekly,
    Stage 6, Try weekly,

    And

    Stage 7, Try weakly!

  131. mh

    So if the justification of giving Sinodinos the overseas posting is to get his green scam pushing out of the spotlight, then Morrison now has to step up and begin winding back the taxpayer funding to renewables.

    Ball is in your court now ScoMo. The windmills have to go.

  132. John Constantine

    Wymynsys drives a car full of her kids head on into a truck driven by a man who gets to watch the kids burn to death, while the men of emergency services try to save the screaming kiddies from an agonising death in the flames.

    Hysterical wymynsys murderer is the victim, according to unwavering media revolutionary struggle rules of engagement.

    Repetition is Truth.

    It has been obvious for days what happened, but once the media quoted the father of the boy as saying he could only see his son on supervised visits, that was the crack in the narrative.

    Their media has their mission, inculcate the grief response down to mobs creating floral tribute shrines and sobbing in emotional candlelight vigil for socialism.

    Authority figures preach the New Commo State is Required.

    Even when the killer is a wymynsys.

    Truthfulness isn’t always Helpful is today’s media groupthink.

    Comrades.

  133. stackja

    HEALTH NEWS MAY 28, 2019 / 3:14 PM
    Just over half of teen girls diagnosed with STIs in ERs fill prescriptions
    Only 54.1 percent of young women who are diagnosed with a sexually transmitted infection at the emergency department fill prescriptions for antimicrobial therapy, a study shows.

    Untreated STIs in women can lead to pelvic inflammatory disease, an infection in the reproductive organs that can harm the chance of getting pregnant later in life.

  134. Cassie of Sydney

    I see the grub doesn’t dispute the words “jooo hating grub”. He wears them with pride.

  135. Cassie of Sydney

    “The windmills have to go.”

    NO! I want hundreds built in Warringah.

  136. candy

    Candy, I think he is happy to be rid of Sinodinos.’
    That plus it’s a very easy job and he will have access to the best of medical attention.

    I might have to disagree there, Des D. A man near death’s door taking up the US ambassadorial position seems highly odd. The all clear from cancer must be at some later stage … one year or two years? He was just recently thin and bone and dreadfully ill looking in a wheelchair voting for Morrison in the spill.

  137. stackja

    Killer driver Puneet Puneet’s father says his son is the real victim
    TAWQEER HUSSAIN in New Delhi, Herald Sun
    22 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    Cowardly killer driver Puneet Puneet’s father says his son, who is continuing a prolonged and outrageous fight to avoid Australian justice, is the real victim.

    In the latest blow to the family of Puneet’s victim Dean Hofstee — who have so far waited 3893 days for Puneet to be held to account — Naresh Kumar said his son’s life would be at risk if he was extradited.

    And Mr Kumar said his family had been ruined.

    Puneet’s lawyers have tried to argue in court that in their effort to obtain extradition Australian authorities are twisting the facts by calling a “simple accident” culpable homicide.

    On October 1, 2008, Puneet, who was then 19, hit and killed Mr Hofstee, a 19-year-old Queensland student, while drunkenly speeding along City Rd in Southbank.

    He pleaded guilty to culpable driving but in 2009 fled while on bail awaiting sentence.

    He has fought extradition since his 2013 arrest.

  138. thefrollickingmole

    numberwang upset he didnt work the seminary angle to avoid service?

    Cassie of Sydney

    Im sure he will show lots of other times hes posted about this sort of thing from other Ethnic/national groups…

  139. Arky

    jooo hating grub

    ..
    Slightly unfair.
    Just set off by an article on conscription, plus tinged with decades of reading the progressive’s anti- Israeli stance.

  140. Mother Lode

    Arthur Sidonis is fully recovered from his cancer.

    No. The cancer had a terminal case of Arthur Sinodinos.

    There is no known cure for Arthur Sinodinos.

    Eventually his own death will succumb to his symptoms and the turd will live forever.

  141. Percy Popinjay

    Bishop signed last week with Sydney firm Claxton Speakers International

    I’m at a complete loss as to why anyone would willingly listen to that one dimensional narcissistic airhead, let alone part with their hard earned to do so.

  142. Judith Sloan

    He has had non-Hodgkins lymphoma. He should make a full recovery.

  143. Boambee John

    Very few who post here comprehend the difference between fact and opinion, and reality and fantasy, and most are too dense to deal with any concept that goes beyond a binary position.

    It is really quite simple people.

    If it is posted by the seagull, it is one of:

    Opinion,

    Fantasy, or

    So far beyond a “binary” position that it has multiple genders.

  144. Tom

    John Constantine
    #3029599, posted on May 30, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Tremendous work, John.

    Are you sure your real name isn’t Eric Blair?

  145. mh

    He was just recently thin and bone and dreadfully ill looking in a wheelchair voting for Morrison in the spill.

    No doubt Sinodinos leveraged his vote for his own gain.

  146. feelthebern

    Candy, I think he is happy to be rid of Sinodinos.

    Correct.
    & if Sinodinos does keel over, the time spent as ambassador will pump up the pension for his missus.

  147. Percy Popinjay

    lots of other times he’s posted about this sort of thing from other Ethnic/national groups…

    Let’s see – he observed some “foreign wukkas” behind the counter in a regional fast food restaurant, causing him to dissolve into an hysterical screeching puddle of indignity, resulting in his forced removal from the said restaurant – that sort of thing?

  148. feelthebern

    I went through all the LNP parliamentary list last night.
    The potential leakers are very small in number.
    A tight ship is some Tony would have loved.

  149. Geriatric Mayfly

    Deep space awash with alcohol
    Constellations. Crux (Cru)
    Life really does get better with alcohol, according to astronomers who have found a vast cloud of it in deep space.

    There is a heaven after all.

  150. candy

    Bishop is, never the less, exactly the sort of shallow, stick-to-the-brief cocktail hoover who would perform the job satisfactorily.

    I would agree with that, though. A very good fit. What does the ambassador really do, given US and Australia are good mates. It sounds jolly.

  151. Percy Popinjay

    He was just recently thin and bone and dreadfully ill looking in a wheelchair

    Of course none of us here would ever remotely delight in the monstrous ill health of utterly corrupt shitheads like the Sinodinosaur and Bucket Guts Richo.

  152. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    People-smugglers Labor the point as critical weakness again exposedSimon Benson

    12:00AM May 30, 2019
    88 Comments

    It’s a fair bet the 20 Sri Lankans trying to reach Australia by boat were sold a pup by people-smugglers. We don’t know what they told authorities when they were found sailing into Australian waters, but there is no doubt as to the timing of their departure — week three of the election campaign.

    The last group of asylum-­seekers intercepted in January told officials there would soon be a government in Australia more sympathetic to their plight.

    The same thing was spruiked to men on Manus Island, who were convinced to resist the offer of US resettlement in the hope there would soon be a Labor government in charge. The medevac bill was pushed as proof of intent.

    Another boat was reported to have left India in March. It was never seen again and is assumed lost at sea. It is not a stretch of the imagination to assume the people on that boat, as with those on the latest venture, were sold a fantasy.

    Their arrival and subsequent return proves two things: first, the re-election of the Morrison government denies people-smugglers a business model; and second, any softening of our policies would see a swift recommencement of the trade.

    People-smugglers follow politics in Australia more intently than most Australians do. This latest attempt to test the net presents Anthony Albanese with a first test.

    Having accepted last year that the Coalition’s turn-back policy had worked — after opposing it in 2015 — he will be asked to clarify what changes if any there will be to Labor policy under his leadership.

    From the Oz.

  153. Percy Popinjay

    Hysterical wymynsys murderer is the victim …

    … of the incessantly thrusting phallus of the Patriarchy.

  154. thefrollickingmole

    No John Cleese Ooooohhh NoOoooo you cant say that!!!

    Some years ago I opined that London was not really an English city any more

    Since then, virtually all my friends from abroad have confirmed my observation

    So there must be some truth in it…

    I note also that London was the UK city that voted most strongly to remain in the EU

  155. thefrollickingmole

    And not backing down …yet…

    I suspect I should apologise for my affection for the Englishness of my upbringing,
    but in some ways I found it calmer, more polite, more humorous, less tabloid, and less money-oriented than the one that is replacing it

  156. Bruce of Newcastle

    Winning!
    U.S. State Department: Iran withdrawing Hezbollah forces from Syria
    If true that is very nice news for the Israelis.

  157. Old School Conservative

    “If he really loved us, he would have looked after his heart.”

    An interesting debate opened up yesterday over the Heart Foundation’s guilt trip advertising.
    They certainly got more publicity than a plain vanilla ad campaign.

    I don’t like it.

  158. Boambee John

    Thinking about the election result.

    You have to be rich to be an environmentalist (or a socialist). The “wokes” of the Labor Party and the “doctors’wives” of the Liberals have more in common with the Greens than the parties to which they are nominally attached.

    Either Labor or the Coalition could cement themselves in power by abandoning the “wokes” and the “doctors’ wives” and focussing on the socially conservative wings of each party.

  159. Percy Popinjay

    Another boat was reported to have left India in March. It was never seen again and is assumed lost at sea.

    What’s the saying, Sarah Hyphen-Dung? Accidents happen, tragedies happen?

    You vile narcissistic nongs. These people are dead, thanks to your overweening and utterly unjustified vanity.

  160. None

    Serves James Cook right for accepting him in the first place

    James Cook University really needs to be investigated. This seems to be a case of them just taking the money – I mean a guy just sounds mentally unstable for a start – and that money grubbing has been a trend in all Australian Universities I’m afraid. This is no different to the great big scam run on the back of government subsidies buy that ex-afl grub Demetriou. What was the name of the company Acquire learning. I think. He overpaid twenty-somethings and backpackers to talk barely literate or disabled people into super expensive non-existence courses that cost up to 20 grand. That f****** arsehole needs to be in jail. It only stopped when the government turned off the tap. If I recall correctly it was the Abbott government they ended it.

  161. Shy Ted

    From PhD to 7/11.
    Too dumb to be a taxi driver?

  162. Boambee John

    Oops,,posted too soon.

    … of each party in the outer suburbs and in regional/rural Australia.

  163. None

    Why the hell are we getting refos from India now? It’s probably thanks to all the people Smugglers that settled here thanks to the student visa scam. I don’t expect the idiot Immigration Minister what the hell is his name again is going to do anything about that. He’s another one of these crybaby open borders idiots.

  164. Notafan

    Sidonos looked very healthy on election night.

    Candygrig should give it a rest.

    Incidentally it was the orthodox who were the most viciously targeted by Hitler and his fascists so you can probably understand why they’d be the preferred targets of malicious slimy toads around here

  165. Knuckle Dragger

    I’ve never been through the ‘formal’ tertiary system. I’ve got my share of post-grad stuff on the wank wall though, mainly due to work-related stuff.

    As a young feller, I opted to do other stuff rather than go to Uni. Even back then, even an undergrad qual was seen as something to behold, particularly if you were from a small town and Mum and Dad never even got a look in at tertiary education.

    Most here would have more experience than me, but I would suggest that the vast range of make-believe subjects and diversidee placements are effectively making, if they haven’t already, any tertiary education worthless if it isn’t in the hard sciences.

    One of the comments in Diogenes’ link earlier struck me as truw:

    ‘What happens when students become customers’

    I don’t know this, but wouldn’t it make sense for people to be warned that attempting a higher level of tertiary education is just that, an attempt?

    Surely they’re not being rewarded for whatever they pay to the uni by a qualification? Has it really become a commercial transaction?

    I for one would be furious if I’d worked my ring off in poverty for years to attain a much sought-after qualification back in the day, only to find today that the bit of paper I’d worked so hard for, and was so proud of had been devalued so much by semi-literate foreigners with rich Mumsy and Dada back home paying for their scion to reach a cultural rather than an academic qualification.

  166. stackja

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3029602, posted on May 30, 2019 at 8:39 am
    “The windmills have to go.”

    NO! I want hundreds built in Warringah.

    Wind Farms for Warringah
    Zali Steggall and the people of Warringah need to show leadership on immediate climate change ACTION. The proposal: wind turbines are to be placed along the foreshore, taking advantage of the sea breezes. Let’s lead the way by example, for everyone who voted against climate action. Sign and spread the petition Australians! Let’s do it for the children!

  167. candy

    I wonder how Border Force let that boat through right the way to Christmas Island.
    Not a turn back, but then rapidly processed and put on a plane. A new scenario.

  168. stackja

    The Spirit of Progress leaves Albury for Melbourne. Picture: News Corp Australia

    When the Spirit of Progress was one of Australia’s great trains

    An Art Deco marvel that sped passengers from one end of Victoria to the other in the lap of luxury and in record time, the Spirit of Progress was the crowning glory of a railway visionary and went on to become one of Australia’s greatest trains.
    Jamie Duncan, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    May 30, 2019 7:30am

    It was sleek, thoroughly modern and stacked up with the world’s greatest trains, covering its route at speeds never before seen in Australia and only marginally bested today’s more modern trains.

    The Spirit of Progress lived up to its name.

    It was Victoria’s own and arrived at the peak of our state’s railway system.

    The father of the Spirit of Progress was Sir Harold Winthrop Clapp, who was born in Melbourne in 1875 to Isabella and Frank Boardman Clapp, an American businessman who came out in the gold rush and owned Cobb and Co. Coaches for a time before diversifying into horse-drawn mass transit and tramways.

    The Spirit of Progress. Picture: Public Records Office of Victoria

  169. P

    ‘Folau’s law’: Coalition MPs push for bolder action in a ‘new dawn’ for religious freedom

    Conservative Coalition MPs emboldened by strong support from religious voters at the election are pushing the Morrison government for more radical and far-reaching religious freedom provisions in forthcoming laws.

    Attorney-General Christian Porter is expected to present a Religious Discrimination Act to the Parliament as soon as July, acting on a pre-election commitment to boost protections for people of faith against discrimination and vilification.

  170. candy

    NO! I want hundreds built in Warringah.

    Sooner or later Zali Steggall must realise that despite this petition being a lark for some people, it is the essence of taking substantial action in this climate change/reduction of emissions business.
    It goes right to the heart of their movement.
    She could become a world champion in fighting climate change and has a mandate to do so.

  171. I see the grub doesn’t dispute the words “jooo hating grub”. He wears them with pride.

    No, I simply ignore them, in the same way you’d step around a dog turd.
    I haven’t had much to do with people of that ethnic group, although one of them was a teaching colleague of my wife. He introduced us at Yeronga bowls club at an after work drink in 1975. I owe him a great deal. He is a nice bloke.
    When my eldest daughter was studying in Brisbane her best friend was Israeli.
    I never met her, but she came down with something nasty (glandular fever) and my daughter got her to hospital. She was very ill for a while.
    Her dad flew over, and was effusive in his praise for my daughter.
    She went back home after finishing her study, but she still chats with my daughter on line.
    My daughter reports she is not fond of Netanyahu and his government.
    Unlike you, Cassie, I don’t hate any particular group.
    Hate eats you away from the inside.

  172. Shy Ted

    US ambassador. Julie Bishop simply isn’t spy or honeypot material. Can you imagine James Bond or any other credible spook giving her a second look? Same with Marise Payne as FM. If she tried to ply you with a few free drinks you’d run a mile after the 8th. Whereas Arthur with his history of successful dodgy dealings knows how the system works.

  173. None

    Zycon please don’t post rubbish articles from rubbish websites about STI’s here.

  174. Bear Necessities

    Bishop signed last week with Sydney firm Claxton Speakers International

    I’m at a complete loss as to why anyone would willingly listen to that one dimensional narcissistic airhead, let alone part with their hard earned to do so.

    If that doesn’t work, I here the Spice Girls are looking for a replacement for Posh Spice to go on tour.

    She would fit in like a Glove. Stick thin, extremely skin deep and a has been.

    She could call herself “Old Spice”.

  175. mh

    Sidonos looked very healthy on election night.

    He will always perk up when in an ABC studio. He’s amongst friends.

  176. Leigh Lowe

    I see Jane Caro has done a Cher …

    Please, never, ever commence a sentence with that phrase again.
    I had a vision of Mzzz Caro wearing fishnets and a dental floss g-string astride the barrel of a naval gun.
    Lost me porridge everywhere.

  177. over the Heart Foundation …

    I’m certainly over them.
    The excuse provided by the emergency dept. that nearly killed me was “we were only following the heart foundation guidelines”.

  178. Wymynsys drives a car full of her kids head on into a truck driven by a man who gets to watch the kids burn to death, while the men of emergency services try to save the screaming kiddies from an agonising death in the flames.

    A woman and all her kids are killed in a road accident.
    She was separated from her husband.
    Her community mourns and most people express sympathy.
    According to some on this site she is somehow a murderer.
    That’s about as sick as it gets.
    Catallaxy attracts some very weird people.

  179. Knuckle Dragger

    Absolutely, Shy Ted.

    It would be a constant juggling act between getting free drinks and being seen in public with the gargantuan Ms Payne, who in all probability has a nice personality.

    But yes. First trip to the dunny to break the seal, and you’d be scoping out the size of the windows to see if you could get through them.

    Or making a run for it when she nips in to the little girls’ room to powder her thighs.

    Popping smoke, as it’s known in the trade.

  180. dover_beach

    I’m at a complete loss as to why anyone would willingly listen to that one dimensional narcissistic airhead, let alone part with their hard earned to do so.

    It’s never about the speaker but about the people likely to attend.

  181. C.L.

    I see John Cleese is in ‘trouble’ for saying London is “no longer a English city.”

  182. John Constantine

    Film emerges of mass burial pits full of live pigs being interred while still squealing.

    Too many pigs with chicom pig plague to waste the time killing them before burying them.

    Sounds out of control.

    Australian quarantine intercepts tens of tonnes of pork products being illegally jmported. Some dozen a month infected with pig plague.

    Obviously some pig plague has got into Australia, just not managed to contact a pig.

    Yet.

  183. Boambee John

    Unlike you, Cassie, I don’t hate any particular group.
    Hate eats you away from the inside.

    An effect demonstrated in many of the seagull’s posts.

  184. thefrollickingmole

    Unlike you, Cassie, I don’t hate any particular group.

    Except those yanks…
    And women in 4 wheel drives…

    Reminds me of this scene.

  185. thefrollickingmole

    A woman and all her kids are killed in a road accident.

    Aaaand the first line nunmberwang uses is a massive avoidance of truth.

    He probably believes all those bloke driving cars into trees at high speed are “road accidents” as well.

  186. Geriatric Mayfly

    When the Spirit of Progress was one of Australia’s great trains

    At about 3 yo my fate was sealed on that train. Fetched from NSW to be press ganged into Victoristani citizenship. All I can remember is getting lots of attention from the hostess on the train.

  187. Eyrie

    If you are gunna do it, use a tree not some poor truckie going the other way. Alternatively guns should be made more widely and easily available.

  188. cohenite

    Mueller’s speech is astoundingly self-incriminatory; one of the best analysis:

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/29/mueller-just-proved-his-entire-operation-was-a-political-hit-job-that-trampled-the-rule-of-law/

    If there were any doubts about Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s political intentions, his unprecedented press conference on Wednesday should put them all to rest. As he made abundantly clear during his doddering reading of a prepared statement that repeatedly contradicted itself, Mueller had no interest in the equal application of the rule of law. He gave the game, and his nakedly political intentions, away repeatedly throughout his statement.

    “It is important that the office’s written work speak for itself,” Mueller said, referring to his office’s 448-page report. Mueller’s report was released to the public by Attorney General William Barr nearly six weeks ago. The entire report, minus limited redactions required by law, has been publicly available, pored through, and dissected. Its contents have been discussed ad nauseum in print and on television. The report has been speaking for itself since April 18, when it was released.

    If it’s important for the work to speak for itself, then why did Mueller schedule a press conference in which he would speak for it weeks after it was released? The statement, given the venue in which it was provided, is self-refuting.

    Let’s start with the Mueller team’s unique take on the nature of a prosecutor’s job. The standard American view of justice, affirmed and enforced by the U.S. Constitution, is that all are presumed innocent absent conviction by a jury of a specific charge of criminal wrongdoing. That is, the natural legal state of an individual in this country is innocence. It is not a state or a nature bestowed by cops or attorneys. Innocence is not granted by unelected bureaucrats or federal prosecutors.

    At one point in his remarks, Mueller seemed to agree. Referring to indictments against various Russian individuals and institutions for allegedly hacking American servers during the 2016 election, Mueller said that the indictments “contain allegations and we are not commenting on the guilt or innocence of any specific defendant.”

    “Every defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.”

    Had he stopped there, he would have been correct. But then he crafted a brand new standard.

    “The order appointing the special counsel authorized us to investigate actions that could obstruct the investigation. We conducted that investigation and kept the office of the acting attorney general apprised of our work,” Mueller said. “After that investigation, if we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”

    According to Mueller and his team, charged Russians are presumed innocent. An American president, however, is presumed guilty unless and until Mueller’s team determines he is innocent. Such a standard is an obscene abomination against the rule of law, one that would never be committed by independent attorneys who place a fidelity to their oaths and impartial enforcement of the law ahead of their political motivations.

  189. Knuckle Dragger

    Unfortunately (for the kiddies involved), John C may well be right.

    It has all the characteristics of a murder-suicide, accentuated by the bleatings on social media.

    Ignoring the mountains of government-funded organisations frothing at the mouth to give her support and/or cash for being an alleged victim of the world, she decides to make a public statement about something undetermined, and also to ruin other people’s lives. In this case the truckie.

    The monumental hubris of these people who really believe that if they were gone their children wouldn’t be able to survive, and then decide to take their lives as well.

    I would be very, very happy to be proved wrong. But I doubt it. We’ll have to wait for the inquest in three years or so to find out.

  190. He probably believes all those bloke (sic) driving cars into trees at high speed are “road accidents” as well.

    I don’t know.
    And somehow you do?
    “All” means “no exceptions”.
    In the Catallaxy universe – there is only “all” or “none”.
    Now where have I seen that before?

  191. Eyrie

    “the fascist, sociopathic “experts” in Silicon Valley keep sending defective software into the market. Glad they don’t design aeroplanes.”
    They are however writing code for self driving cars and even working on flying cars. Think about that when your Apple PoS freezes up yet again.

  192. The monumental hubris of these people who really believe that if they were gone their children wouldn’t be able to survive, and then decide to take their lives as well.

    Sounds a bit like Rosie Batty’s hubby.
    But wait, according to Catallaxy, it was all her fault…..

  193. “the fascist, sociopathic “experts” in Silicon Valley keep sending defective software into the market. Glad they don’t design aeroplanes.”

    No, Boeing do that.
    So far, they’ve killed 346.
    That’s got to be sociopathic.

  194. C.L.

    So Bob Mueller decided that boosting the impeachment cause might get him off the hook.
    No, Bob. It really won’t. The predicate investigation and other inquiries being made by A-G Barr are likely to end very badly for you. And I don’t think the impeachment bandwagon will do anything for the Dems in 2020. The US public is well and truly on to this hoax.
    ———
    Bob Mueller Runs and Hides in Eight Minutes to Avoid Having to Answer One Key Question.

  195. calli

    When someone is tempted to commit suicide, there’s not a lot anyone else can do about it. I suspect we all, at some point in our lives, have felt unbearable despair.

    If that’s what it is, then that’s what it should be called.

    The tragedy remains exactly the same.

  196. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Spirit of Progress leaves Albury for Melbourne

    The father of the Spirit of Progress was Sir Harold Winthrop Clapp, who was born in Melbourne in 1875

    Yep, that’s Victoria, rushing headlong into the 19th Century.
    Add a few more windmills and they’ll be in the 17th C.

  197. Mater

    No matter how bad your day is, it could always be worse.

    It’s not pretty – it literally involves infusing someone else’s healthy poo via an enema inserted in the anus – but it gave Dave something he hadn’t felt in years: relief.

    https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/kerryn-phelps-and-poo-roadie-allow-boy-and-bear-to-make-music/11161806

  198. Leigh Lowe

    No matter how bad your day is, it could always be worse.

    It’s not pretty – it literally involves infusing someone else’s healthy poo via an enema inserted in the anus – but it gave Dave something he hadn’t felt in years: relief.

    Kerryn Phelps special Mastermind subject … shit.

  199. Bruce of Newcastle

    If it’s important for the work to speak for itself, then why did Mueller schedule a press conference in which he would speak for it weeks after it was released?

    He’s trying to avoid a subpoena to testify under oath before Congress. There he’d be subject to a lot of very awkward questions from the Republicans. He’d be forced to choose between lying under oath or being held in contempt for refusing to answer. So doing a press conference with no such legal pit-traps gives him an excuse for the Dem congresscritters not to subpoena him.

  200. No, I simply ignore them, in the same way you’d step around a dog turd. We here at the Cat are forced to step around your dog turds…daily.

    I haven’t had much to do with people of that ethnic group, although one of them was a teaching colleague of my wife. He introduced us at Yeronga bowls club at an after work drink in 1975. I owe him a great deal. He is a nice bloke. Some of my best friends are Joooooish……love that line…and yes, we are nice. There are many Cats who can attest to my niceness.

    my eldest daughter was studying in Brisbane her best friend was Israeli. So what…lots of Isr**li’s study abroad

    I never met her, but she came down with something nasty (glandular fever) and my daughter got her to hospital. She was very ill for a while. You want a medal for helping another human being….Who do you want the medal for….yourself or your daughter?

    Her dad flew over, and was effusive in his praise for my daughter. Yep….you want a medal

    She went back home after finishing her study, but she still chats with my daughter on line. So fucking what

    My daughter reports she is not fond of Netanyahu and his government. I have relatives who are not fond of Netanyahu and his government and I have relatives who are fond of Netanyahu and his government….Isr**l is a democracy DICKHEAD…unlike its neighbours. Oh….you don’t get arrested in Israel for disliking Netanyahu

    Unlike you, Cassie, I don’t hate any particular group. It’s you who hates a particular group

    Hate eats you away from the inside.” So writes the ultimate hater..hating for fifty years.

    Oh the sanctimony.

  201. John Constantine

    We will keep vigil for Courtney Herron. We will say her name. We will bear witness to her life. We will condemn the senseless murder that stole her from her loved ones. We will never stop fighting the epidemic of male violence against women and children.

    We Keep Vigil usually holds a vigil on the steps of Parliament each time a woman is murdered by a man in Australia. This week we are joining with another vigil planned for Friday night, at the site of the murder, in Royal Park. This has been in consultation with her family.

    Please join with us to honour Courtney Herron’s life, to say her name, to condemn the murder that took her, and to keep vigil for all women and children stolen by male violence.

    The vigil will be held in the area east of the North Park Tennis Club. We’ll post a map up with the exact location in the coming days.

  202. John Constantine

    Another woman has been murdered on our streets – and how does the #HEARALDSCUM react? By creating misleading, trivialising, mis misogynistic headlines, that further perpetuates violence against women.
    People it’s time to get angry.
    It’s time to hold the media account for what they put in the minds of our population. We need to make sure that there is consequence for forcing the masses to consume and therefore normalise such blatant, dangerous sexism. We need to show our condemnation for people who are gambling with womens lives to sell news.

    And so, here is an invitation to assemble to HOLD THEM ACCOUNT. On Friday at 40 City Rd, Southbank VIC 3006 in front of the very doors of the Herald Sun Head-Quarters, we will make our anguish heard. With our voices, with our signs and with our social media posts, we encourage a loud and passionate response. Collectively, we will be heard and spread our own, more informed news.

    After this event, those that can, are invited to go as a group to gather and make our way to the Vigil for Courtney Herron at 5:30 in Royal Park, to show our respect and grieve with the rest of the community. (https://www.facebook.com/events/312842202996988/)

    Transparency for this event is important.
    Our Aim’s:
    – to make media outlets be more responsible with their content concerning women and how it positions the public
    – to stand against the medias trend of subtly excusing male perpetrators violence and victim blaming women
    – to show solidarity with victims of violence and to unify in the face of misogyny

    This is an event created by women for womxn, but feminism and media accountability is for EVERYONE. This is an inclusive event and every attendant will be respected. Please come and bring your friends.

  203. P


    Cardinal George Pell’s appeal against conviction set to be held next week


    Specialist appeals barrister Bret Walker SC will run the appeal.
    Three judges will first decide if Cardinal Pell should be granted leave to appeal and, if so, the appeal is to be heard over two days.

    His legal team is expected to argue the verdicts were “unreasonable” because the jury could not have been satisfied beyond reasonable doubt Cardinal Pell was guilty, based on the word of the single surviving complainant against “unchallenged exculpatory evidence” of more than 20 Crown witnesses.
    “… It was not open to the jury to be satisfied beyond reasonable doubt on the word of the complainant alone,” the notice of appeal states.

    The legal team is also set to argue Judge Kidd was mistaken in not allowing the defence to use a video graphic depicting the layout of St Patrick’s in Mr Richter’s closing arguments, which he said would demonstrate the offending was impossible.

    A third ground claims there was a “fundamental irregularity” in the trial because Cardinal Pell was not arraigned – asked if he pleaded guilty or not guilty – in front of the chosen jury.

    If the judges accept the first ground, Cardinal Pell’s conviction would be overturned and he would be released.
    A new trial could be ordered if they accept the second or third grounds.

  204. Knuckle Dragger

    Using Rosie Batty as some sort of excuse. As though it wasn’t her fault Luke Batty isn’t with us today.

    Knew ex hubby was off his head.
    Knew he was violent. Had been extremely violent to her and Luke before.
    Had sent her threatening messages.
    Knew he had warrants out for his arrest.
    Didn’t tell the cops where he was likely to be.
    Sends her son into the nets with him, where he is predictably beaten to death with a cricket bat.
    Immediately becomes the world’s most hard done by victim.
    Is made AOTY and becomes poster girl for all men are bastards organisation.
    Makes every single public appearance since about her, rather than her son. No mention made by anyone of her Biblical scale negligence in offering her own son up for slaughter.

    The only positive thing about this whole episode is that the piece of shit involved was immediately shot by arriving coppers.

  205. Mother Lode

    I see the Silly Moaning Horrid is still prosecuting their campaign for constitutional Aboriginal privilege.

    There is a photograph of an Aboriginal man wearing a dad marsupial’s pelt, and above it a headline “We Can’t Trust a Referendum”.

    Which means, that a small minority of the population is worried the bulk of the population would not give the answer they want, so we ought not to ask them.

    What a squalid rag.

    Thing is, if there was not so much money and preferment already (which they seem to be worried too many people know about) then there would likely not be any such campaign. If there were not the rewards for discovering that you are defined by a tiny proportion of your blood, in employment, academia, and the media, then there would be far fewer people in a position clamouring for this change.

    Imagine! Without them clouding the issues with the self-serving politicking, we might be able to look at individuals, and to walk past privileged Aborigines and offering a helping hand to needy ones.

  206. “P
    #3029693, posted on May 30, 2019 at 10:14 am

    Cardinal George Pell’s appeal against conviction set to be held next week

    Specialist appeals barrister Bret Walker SC will run the appeal.”

    Walker is one of the best.

  207. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Game, set and match to Cassie.

  208. Cassie of Sydney
    #3029687, posted on May 30, 2019 at 10:10 am
    Hey Cassie, if you want posters to read your rants, here’s a tip –
    Use the “quote” feature.
    Apart from the fact that it’s etiquette, it makes it much easier to distinguish your rantings from my carefully considered posts.
    There’s a dear……

  209. “Knuckle Dragger
    #3029695, posted on May 30, 2019 at 10:16 am
    Using Rosie Batty as some sort of excuse. As though it wasn’t her fault Luke Batty isn’t with us today.”

    Batty bears a lot of responsibility for what happened to her son. And yet she became the victim. Unbelievable. Mark Latham rightly called her out.

  210. I see the Jooo hater is still dropping turds….perhaps his only talent.

  211. Anthony

    Collusion – no case to answer.
    Obstruction – no crime to answer.
    Trump is innocent of all accusations.
    WTF could possibly happen now?

  212. John64

    OK, I give up. What is it about KKKeneally that makes others fall over for her. Surely she must have the photos?

    Farrell steps aside for Keneally

    Labor power broker Don Farrell will stand down as the party’s deputy senate leader, making way for Kristina Keneally.

  213. Old School Conservative

    Thanks P.
    Good to have the facts.

  214. notafan

    They are very very angry because the alleged perp was a mental homeless man who was abandoned by the
    Dan Andrews government, in Labour heartland, Northcote.

    Other than someone from Lentil as Anything did anyone in that self satisfied prog community do anything about HH’s obvious and well known mental health issues?

    But why bother when you can blame the Herald Sun who had nothing to do with Herron’s murder.

  215. feelthebern

    Labor power broker Don Farrell will stand down as the party’s deputy senate leader, making way for Kristina Keneally.

    Don’t underestimate the reach of Eddie Obeid.
    Eddie sees himself as De Niro in Cape Fear.
    On leaving jail, he’ll have more scores to settle than the entire Carlton Crew.

  216. Mother Lode

    I’m certainly over them (The Heart Foundation).

    Yeah. Sod them.

    I have decided on a boycott.

    I have decided that I am not going to die of a heart attack.

  217. candy

    The Victorian Government surely should take some responsibility for the terrible plight of the mentally ill and drug addicts estranged from families because of their drug addiction and criminal behaviours, but nowhere and no-one to turn to.

    Involuntary admissions to rehab facilities would help. It’s a terrible thing to let people roam the parks and streets looking for drugs and people to steal from, or just simply too mentally ill to function anywhere but under supervision every day.

  218. feelthebern

    Anti Semite comments = Cat ban.

  219. Black Ball

    You have a link handy Mother Lode?

  220. cohenite

    John64

    #3029704, posted on May 30, 2019 at 10:24 am

    OK, I give up. What is it about KKKeneally that makes others fall over for her. Surely she must have the photos?

    It’s the smirk I tells ya, the meaning of life is in that smirk:

  221. “feelthebern
    #3029708, posted on May 30, 2019 at 10:29 am
    Labor power broker Don Farrell will stand down as the party’s deputy senate leader, making way for Kristina Keneally.”

    History repeating itself. This is exactly how KK operated in NSW politics.

  222. John64

    The Liars Senate Leadership Dream Team – That Wong Chap and Nobody’s Girl.

    Mathias Cormann mustn’t be able to believe his luck.

  223. notafan

    I wonder how Border Force let that boat through right the way to Christmas Island.

    We heading for peak Grigory?

    According to reports in the Australian, the vessel, which was carrying at least one baby, was spotted in the Indian Ocean heading for the north-west coast.

    Not even the Guardian pretended that that was what happened

    from the guardian

  224. Roger

    OK, I give up. What is it about KKKeneally that makes others fall over for her.

    She’s pretty powerful. She even tells the pope what to do.

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