Rudd reflects. And the dark side of rooftop solar

A conversation with a remarkably chubby Kevin Rudd.

A very revealing three-part survey of the state of household solar power in Australia at present. Surprisingly good for the ABC. Many comments that it is subsidised by the coal industry:) LOL.

UPDATE. My favourable opinion was based on Part Two on household solar that I saw first. The first part on the bigger picture is pretty ordinary. The picture of power prices is telling but they pointed at retailers and never got near the root of the problem. No surprise there.

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13 Responses to Rudd reflects. And the dark side of rooftop solar

  1. Percy Popinjay

    remarkably chubby Kevin Rudd

    The useless narcissistic imbecile has nothing else to comfort him in his pointless life except food. At the taxpayers’ expense, of course.

  2. RobK

    The 7.30 report i saw recently highlighted dodgy panels and installations. Never much about cost of storage, back-up, head works or the like. Little steps i suppose, but more likely projecting a feeling of balance on RE.

  3. Entropy

    RobK
    #3029860, posted on May 30, 2019 at 1:07 pm
    The 7.30 report i saw recently highlighted dodgy panels and installations. Never much about cost of storage, back-up, head works or the like. Little steps i suppose, but more likely projecting a feeling of balance on RE

    That would be just a story intended to improve the employment prospects of their EWU maaaates as opposed to those shonky small business operatives.

  4. Roberto

    remarkably chubby Kevin Rudd

    Goodness, yes. He has been pigging out.

  5. Dr Fred Lenin

    Roberto ,deprivation of relevencev doe s that ,to inadequates they pig out o compensate for people ignoring them . DFA was right , he is most unsuitable to be a diplomat overseas,the Beijing posting was compensation for reaching as high as he would ever get in DFA ,lunch boy t the embassy . Thats why he left the DFA in a fit of pique ,shows how mediocre the alp is to elect this pratt as leader , twice for Gods sake ! And his replacements giliard and shorten .now the albanian !_,talk about scraping the nottom of the barrel? Theres a lot of that about in politics .

  6. egg_

    remarkably chubby Kevin Rudd

    Ho Lee Fuk!
    Lu Kewen has been chasing too much peeking duck?

  7. Howard Hill

    That would be just a story intended to improve the employment prospects of their EWU maaaates as opposed to those shonky small business operatives.

    This!!
    Wasn’t there mention of only allowing certified sparkies to install the things?
    Meanwhile in The Peoples Republic Of Victoriastan, The Hunchback is trying to take over the independent builders.

  8. Bad Samaritan

    C’mon, Rooftop Solar has always been a scam. Leaving aside the transfer of costs to the public purse via govt subsidies, infrastructure upgrades and so forth it’s still a very very marginal “investment”. However, I do accept the notion that the feel-good factor (virtue-signalling in this case) is important. This is similar to spending dough on entertainment or hobbies. But, financially…ha ha ha….

    It works on the basis that nothing goes wrong and needs replacing out-of-warranty, or when the installation company has disappeared; that there’s no cost for the capital sitting on the roof; that no-one has to maintain the panels; that they will not electrocute the cat…etc etc.

    My calculation…$7,000 for a 5kW set up which will save about 4000kWh per year = about $900 saved each year. That’s 8-9 years if everything’s OK, And you do the climbing around on the roof cleaning the panels yourself: twice per year.

    Of the $900 pa saved, having them professionally cleaned will be about $400 (or more) pa. you can do it yourself, but one fall in ten years might make you wish you hadn’t! so now it’s $500 saved = 14 years until break-even.

    Ok, so a nice hail storm…or something attacking the inverter or the panels, will reduce your wafer-thin return. then when the inverter packs it in (5-10 years is the standard warranty; for good reason, while you need a minimum 14 to even get your dough back…maybe) that puny and paltry saving is lost in a day.

    So. All in all, just another scam.

  9. egg_

    Rooftop Solar has always been a scam

    I love the smell of cadmium in the morning!

  10. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Rooftop Solar has always been a scam

    I love the smell of cadmium in the morning!

    Or UV-fried ABS plastic with weather seals that don’t?

    http://youtu.be/ITfQ4S0OUhs

    As Dave says, you have to wonder about the purpose of putting switches on the roof. Setting aside the dubious environmental benefit, one has to consider that some of these systems were designed only to provide maintenance billing opportunities to the installation contractors rather than reliable energy. Even premium quality systems were not immune.

  11. mareeS

    Dark side of rooftop solar: who is going to get up a ladder on two stories and clean them every month? We only get people in every few months to clean our windows. Seriously, home solar is bullshit.

  12. Aynsley Kellow

    The there is the question of whether solar panels actually do anything to combat climate change. From my recent book on climate change:
    ‘The appropriate measure for comparison of emissions, of course, must include a life-cycle assessment. The steel in the tower of a wind generator, for example, requires perhaps 220 tonnes of coking coal to manufacture, and photovoltaics compare unfavourably with nuclear energy (Fthenakis and Kim, 2007). One analysis (Ferroni and Hopkirk, 2016) suggests that more energy goes into manufacturing solar panels than is produced by them in locations such as Germany and Switzerland, although this is contested (Raugei et al., 2017). But aside from ‘Energy Return on Energy Invested’, the manufacture of photovoltaic panels has a controversial GHG balance, not just because they are often made in China using (inefficient) coal-fired electricity, but because their manufacture involves the release of substances such as the solvents nitrogen trifluoride (NF3), which was not covered by the first commitment period under the Kyoto Protocol, but which is 16,000 times more powerful a GHG than CO2, and sulphur hexafluoride (SF6) which is 23,900 more powerful than CO2.’
    The analysis in question found that CCGT gas or HELE coal had a lower GW impact than solar in Germany, with the advantage that the impact through manufacture occurred in China. Solar conditions are, of course, better in Australia.

  13. nfw

    “A conversation with a remarkably chubby Kevin Rudd.” Really? I would have said remarkably dull Kevvie 747. He no doubt doesn’t have time for exercise while flying first class, stying (now that was a Freudian) in 5 star hotels and attending all those cocktail parties as the UN’s toilet man. I can’t understand why he doesn’t have US citizenship yet so he can be a senator from New York and tell the Americans what they need to do, after watching West Wing episodes. After all, that’s from where he got the socialist wet dream NBN idea to control the distribution of information in the internet age and ensure Australia is at the back of any groundbreaking developments in wireless technology while depending on copper wires.

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