Open Forum: June 1, 2019

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  1. Nick

    You and me both, Nick. And most Blues fans are sick of being humiliated by the Tasmanian bush league kiddie coach (who, compared to premiership coaches like David Parkin and Robbie Walls, is about as frightening as Alfred E. Newman).

    Thankfully, the heavy hitters in the Blues membership (like pokies king Bruce Matheson) are now moving against him and Brad Scott’s decision to pull the pin at North has put a cat among the pigeons in the AFL coaching merry-go-round.

    Ditto. At least one very famous Carlton identity is talking about his son leading a change to the elected Board. I don’t think it will come to anything, but someone else might. I do know that during the GWS debacle, the current President was so shitty he stormed out of the box he was in.

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Cop presser yesterday left little doubt that’s the direction the investigation was heading.

    No skid marks on the road.

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    No skid marks from the car that smashed into the truck.

    More damning, so sign of yaw or friction marks that indicate an attempt to change direction.

    The note was found in a place consistent with where a selfish bitch would have turfed it out the window as one of her last acts.

  4. rickw

    Trust candygrig to pretend there is some doubt when the obvious conclusion is that she threw it out the window

    More likely it was in the car, dislodged during the horrific crash, then blown some distance by the wind.

    For the police to find it, they were clearly looking for debris and car contents spread all over the place.

  5. feelthebern

    I haven’t read the story about the mother, but I make this comment.
    Post natal depression is so poorly discussed, diagnosed, managed in this country.
    In Germany, you have mandated pre natal & post natal check ups.
    Most of that is focused on the child, but it also allows the same medical professional to monitor the mother.
    Yes, all your appointments are with the same doc.
    This is why birth weights in Germany over the past 20 years are substantially higher than other OECD countries.
    & this is why child hood medical conditions are diagnosed & addressed when the kids are 1-2 years old.

  6. stackja

    2GB G&P – Paul Dibb mentioned David Goodhart Road to Somewhere.

    Political gulf dividing anywheres and somewheres is going nowhere

    The recent election in Australia highlighted the yawning gap between the voting inclinations of the inner-city elite class and attitudes in the outer suburbs and regional Australia.

    The Australian’s Simon Benson has observed that in the Liberal Party a new generation is in control that has transferred power from the party’s inner-city elite to the outer suburbs and regions. And we have witnessed a Labor Party that totally underestimated the reaction in regional Australia to the basic contradiction between coalmining and climate change. Bob Brown and the Greens caravan did untold damage to Labor’s cause in Queensland.

    This is a trend that we have seen in the US and Britain, where there is a growing tendency to view democracy as being run by educated elites for their own benefit. Significant parts of the working class see representative democracy as unresponsive and remote.

    This attitude is quickly turning into xenophobia in Europe and the US, with populist politicians exploiting the issue to their advantage. Advocating for a borderless world and the benefits of economic globalisation is now a political liability.

    Adding to the gloom is a persuasive analysis by one of the most distinctive voices in British politics today, David Goodhart, who — in his book The Road to Somewhere — argues that since the turn of the century Western politics has had to make room for a new set of ­voices preoccupied with national borders and the pace of change, appealing to people who feel displaced by a more open, ethnically fluid, graduate-favouring economy and society designed by and for the new elites.

  7. notafan

    The Couriet Mail headline was pretty matter of fact too

    Now police are investigating several major clues that could turn this incident into a murder-suicide.

    These include an alleged hand-written note, found near the crash site, a lack of brake marks at the scene, and Ms McLeod’s online acitivity.

    The police are investigating the crash as a murder suicie

  8. Makka

    The left think GP is wrongly convicted. Even those airheads know it’s a total stitch up;

    George Pell stands a good chance of winning his appeal next week. Not that that would be the end of the matter. Lately the Victorian court of appeal has overturned a number of jury verdicts in child abuse cases, only to see those verdicts restored by the high court.

    – Guardian

  9. notafan

    Not sure about post natal

    the youngest was two, though no doubt raising four very little children on her own would have been very difficult.

  10. bespoke

    Collectivists naturally object to other people being selfish. They want you to live for others, preferably them.

    Rubbish, it could just as easily be said people group together out self interest like survival.

  11. Fleeced

    Some threadsters suggested, rather unkindly, that I need instruction on how many open threads we should have per week.

    Open a daily thread at 6AM, every morning.

  12. rickw

    The Couriet Mail headline was pretty matter of fact too

    Seems some have managed to work a bit of Church bashing into this as well.

  13. feelthebern

    Not sure about post natal

    I know someone who had 2 kids & wasn’t treated for post natal depression until just before the youngest one went to kindie.
    Went on medication & within a few weeks was back to her “normal” self she was before the second kid.
    Sometimes the brain just needs help re-balancing the chemicals post a pregnancy.

  14. Fleeced

    Mitch wrote:

    Cancer Research Points to Key Unknowns about Popular “Antiaging” Supplements

    Dammit, Mitch – don’t spoil it!

    Seriously though, I wouldn’t be entirely surprised that protecting cells would protect all of them. The lesson might be that it’s better to start early, but past a certain age, to steer clear. Or it could be that the benefit outweight the risks, regardless.

  15. notafan

    Sometimes the brain just needs help re-balancing the chemicals post a pregnancy.

    Worked for me

  16. Knuckle Dragger

    Terrible news.

    David Warner will play for Australia in the World Cup opener tonight.

  17. memoryvault

    Neither Candy nor I claimed it wasn’t suicide.
    Candy offered, and I agreed with her, that at this stage it is open to speculation.

    Bandwagon jumping is the second-most popular activity here at the Cat.

  18. stackja

    2GB mentioned many in Sydney unaware of drought. It seems MSM don’t care.

  19. candy

    I just don’t see the note business though. Was she driving around waiting for a truck to come head on and just before that throw a note out the window?

    not saying it’s not possible. No skid marks could mean on the phone and simply distracted and just froze.

  20. Knuckle Dragger

    Nota,

    Yup. My sister is still being (very mildly, now) medicated for PND. Almost eight years after giving birth.

    She’s a nurse herself. I’m told that some medications of this type must be handed out for extended periods because to shut them off dramatically, regardless of dose, would be…… unpleasant.

  21. Arky

    Armadillo
    #3031419, posted on June 1, 2019 at 4:05 am
    Sorry Tom
    ..
    RobK
    #3031430, posted on June 1, 2019 at 4:33 am
    Thanks Tom

    ..
    Arselickers.

  22. DrBeauGan

    Rubbish, it could just as easily be said people group together out self interest like survival.

    Voluntary cooperation is fine. Calling people who don’t want to cooperate with you selfish strikes me as, well, selfish.

  23. JC

    A couple of women have been murdered in Melbourne and all Australian male cops the blame. A mother murders bunch of kids and we need to spend money researching depression after a dropping a kid. Excuse my cynicism.

  24. Makka

    It could mean anything candy. She was distracted by a UFO or something. But the cops are now treating it quite differently from a vanilla TA. They will have good reason for that .

  25. Tom

    Thanks, Arky. First laugh out loud for the day.

  26. feelthebern

    Imagine the cost savings, the productivity gains etc if the government linked benefits to mandated, monthly, free, post natal check ups for the first 6 months.
    Let’s be clear, lower birth weights are overwhelmingly skewed towards poorer people.
    Link the benefits to compulsory free monthly check ups would transform the kids lives.

  27. stackja

    Vegan activist charged with drug related offences after police allegedly find cannabis crop
    Police have swooped on more vegan activists for their alleged role in a farm protest, allegedly uncovering a pricey cannabis crop in the process.

    Queensland Police has accidentally stumbled on a cannabis crop worth more than $30,000 after arresting another group of vegan activists allegedly involved in the March farm protests.

    Police recently arrested four more people allegedly involved in the March 23 protest, that saw dozens of people allegedly trespass on a farm in Millmerran and speak to farmers.

    When executing their search warrants, police accidentally stumbled on a sophisticated hydroponic set up at a unit in Rocklea in Brisbane.

    Detectives from the rural organised crime squad seized a cannabis crop valued at more than $30,000.

    A 38-year-old Brisbane man was charged with six drug related offences and was also interviewed and then charged in relation to the trespass incident at the Millmerran farm.

    The man will appear in the Toowoomba Magistrates Court on June 25.

  28. stackja

    Crowds gather at Melbourne’s Royal Park for Courtney Herron vigil

    Hundreds of people have gathered at Melbourne’s Royal Park ahead of a vigil to pay tribute to 25-year-old woman Courtney Herron who was found dead in the park last week.
    Josh Fagan, Herald Sun
    May 31, 2019 7:48pm

  29. feelthebern

    Who’s saying research JC?
    The research is done.
    The proof is in (Germany).
    Spend the bucks now on post natal check ups, save billions over the next 20, 30 years.

  30. Knuckle Dragger

    Candy.

    I’m not privy to the investigation, obviously, but the location of the note just doesn’t matter.

    She could have turfed it out the window at the last second. She could have had it on the dashboard. She could have taped it to the windscreen wiper of the roof rack. It could have been just a bit of paper. It could be in an envelope, weighted to reduce the chance of blowing away. It doesn’t matter. What matters is the content of the note, which states an intention to kill herself and her children.

    When you have a collision with combined speeds of 180 – 200kph, the debris field to be sorted through is huge in terms of size.

    The collision happened almost 300km from her home. This fits with an intent to go out the way she did – everyone knows the nearest highway to them that chockers with heavy vehicles.

    And perhaps the most telling – the deaths will not be added to the Qld road toll.

  31. RobK

    Arselickers
    This, from someone who had a dolphin avitar pretending to be a mud guard but now is a meerkat. 🙂

  32. feelthebern

    Lack of weight growth in an infant is the #1 sign something is not right.

  33. stackja

    Queenslanders shiver through cold start to winter

    While the start of winter didn’t quite break cold weather records like yesterday, Queenslanders have still endured a chilly morning with temperatures dropping as cold as -4.4C in some areas – and BOM says worst is yet to come.
    Nicole Pierre, The Courier-Mail
    Subscriber only
    |
    35 minutes ago

    QUEENSLANDERS shivered through a chilly morning with temperatures as low as -4.4C south of Brisbane to kickstart the first day of winter.

    BOM meteorologist Adam Blazak said we have seen very cool conditions this week in the lead up to the weekend because of a cool dry mass that pushed across the state.

    “We had another burst of dry air move in on Thursday which again pushed those Friday temperatures right down,” he said.

    Why winter in Qld is the best time of year

    The mercury dropped to 3.2C in Archerfield and -4.4C in Applethorp, the lowest temperatures recorded in both areas since 2014.

    Minimum temperatures of 7.6C in Brisbane, 5.1C at Sunshine Coast Airport and 5.6C in Coolangatta were recorded this morning.

  34. bespoke

    Voluntary cooperation is fine. Calling people who don’t want to cooperate with you selfish strikes me as, well, selfish.

    Only if they haven’t benefited from the cooperation.

  35. notafan

    Marr perhaps exaggerates with ‘many’ the Bauer verdict was upheld, and in that case a retrial was ordered, not innocence found and it appears Br Tyrrell’s matter is being referred but whether that is successful, given that for it to be overturned the high court must also overturn a decision of an earlier ‘strong’ High Court, is a matter of conjecture.

  36. Megan

    My very first thought on hearing about that accident was why would a mother be driving more than three hours from home on a school night. It was not much of a leap to go where the police have finally arrived. Probably waited till they were all asleep. I hope so anyway. Poor little mites.
    It is a completely selfish act when how you feel comes before your children’s right to live.

  37. Makka

    Wtf has Huber been up to?;

    Barr said that Huber is currently wrapping up an investigation related to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and has not been involved for months in anything related to the Russia probe.

    “The other issues he’s been working on relate to Hillary Clinton. Those are winding down and hopefully we’ll be in a position to bring those to fruition,” said Barr, who did not describe the Clinton probe.

    Lock her up!!

  38. notafan

    Imagine the cost savings, the productivity gains etc if the government linked benefits to mandated, monthly, free, post natal check ups for the first 6 months.

    State governments in Victoria have since I had my first baby, severely restricted access to post natal care, I could see the local ‘baby health sister’ in my then very poor socio economic area weekly if I wished, by the fourth I got one home visit then one appt in six months iirc .

  39. Black Ball

    Is it possible for men to suffer from stress disorders from the birth of their children?

  40. Top Ender

    If I remember rightly the bloke who did the hot/crazy chick matrix was wearing a handgun in the video.

    Odd but great video.

  41. Tom

    I normally don’t watch Hannity because it’s usually like a university lecture. Today’s edition — a roundtable with those unmasking the Obambi administration’s use of the intelligence community to settle scores with political opponents — is riveting. I’ll post a YouTube later for Cats without cable.

  42. Knuckle Dragger

    My word it is, BB.

    The whack in the face, albeit expected, of having a whole new person dependent on you and ‘er indoors for survival is jawdropping.

    Combined with the hormones-all-over-the-joint ladeee, which makes severe PMS positively joyous (no criticism ladeees, it is what it is) and yes it’s bloody stressful. I’m not a medical type but I believe, although happy to be proved wrong, that blokes have been diagnosed with this in the recent past.

  43. feelthebern

    Is it possible for men to suffer from stress disorders from the birth of their children?

    Sure is.

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    The hot/crazy matrix.

    Words to live by.

  45. Megan

    Is it possible for men to suffer from stress disorders from the birth of their children?

    If there is a single parent of any gender flavour who has not felt the stress of parental responsibility at least once they should be on display in The Museum of Total Impossobilities.

  46. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Policies, not Palmer ad blitz, to blame for ALP loss

    exclusive
    Rosie Lewis
    Reporter
    @rosieslewis
    12:00AM June 1, 2019
    37 Comments

    Australia’s union movement and GetUp spent at least $4.7 million on advertising during the federal election campaign — nearly a quarter of the record spend by Clive Palmer — as senior Liberals accused Bill Shorten of being “delusional” for blaming “corporate leviathans” and the Queensland billionaire for his election loss.

    The Weekend Australian can reveal the Australian Council of Trade Unions and the Australian Education Union spent $3.2m and $1.3m respectively on television, print and radio advertising between April 11 and May 18, market research from Nielsen shows.

    GetUp spent $240,000 on advertising, according to Nielsen’s analysis, but the left-wing lobby group estimates it used a total of $3m to $4m on its campaign.

    The spend includes advertising, on-the-ground campaigning and handing out how-to-vote cards across its seven Liberal-held target seats of Warringah, Dickson, Menzies, Flinders, Boothby, Pearce and Kooyong.

    Over the election campaign Mr Palmer’s United Australia Party spent $22.5m on traditional advertising, Labor spent $9.5m, the Liberals paid $8.3m, the Greens paid $300,000 and the Nationals spent just $20,000.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  47. feelthebern

    No jab, no pay works.
    Should be expanded.
    Healthier kids would result in the biggest cost saving this nation has ever seen.

  48. Megan

    And despite correcting it 3 times, the Galaxy Note is convinced it knows how to spell big words starting with I better than me. If AI cannot sort out simple spelling then why would we trust it with more complex tasks?

  49. feelthebern

    There’s a difference between stress/pressure & depression.

  50. candy

    The collision happened almost 300km from her home. This fits with an intent to go out the way she did – everyone knows the nearest highway to them that chockers with heavy vehicles.

    I see that, Knuckle Dragger. It’s such a very bad scenario to think about and picture though. Waiting for the kids to fall asleep and keeping on driving for the moment.
    Women have been known to drown their kids, this seems unheard of. The brutality and horribleness. And a child could still survive.

  51. Steve trickler

    Britain’s Police are best described as….. a [email protected] joke!

    Useless pricks that aid and abet thugs – Part 2.



  52. Geriatric Mayfly

    Is it possible for men to suffer from stress disorders from the birth of their children?

    Nice to see you right up to date and most woke BB. With men now having menstrual problems, lactating and reversing accepted biology on so many fronts; giving birth comes as a natural consequence.

  53. Black Ball

    I ask this because my son was delivered on the laundry floor by the ex with my assistance. Confronting experience. My brain was rewired with a game of football and many beers.
    Upon reflection, working then coming home to do what was necessary to make the house run smoothly was ok, but something was still amiss. Increase in beers was noticeable. That was my way of filling the void I guess. 6 pack every night with highly hormonal woman didn’t go down well. I don’t drink as often now, just because I couldn’t be bothered. But thinking the delivery of the son with the ex had a profound effect on my psyche.

  54. Leigh Lowe

    Sinclair Davidson

    #3031511, posted on June 1, 2019 at 9:08 am

    Morning Gab.

    Some threadsters suggested, rather unkindly, that I need instruction on how many open threads we should have per week.

    Putting “God” on the list of spaminator words might help relieve the pressure.

  55. Shy Ted

    Is it possible for men to suffer from stress disorders from the birth of their children?
    And for many decades after.

  56. bespoke

    This thing that Cat is full of people agreeing with each-other is absurd.

  57. Black Ball

    No worries GM 😂

  58. Makka

    It is a completely selfish act when how you feel comes before your children’s right to live.

    IF she committed murder suicide, then what she did was entirely, totally inexcusable. This country forks over hundreds of millions , billions , in health and welfare support from taxpayers. She had any number of different options not to include her kids if she wanted to end it all. Selfish doesn’t nearly describe the evil of such an act. For the father’s sake, I hope it’s an accident only.

  59. feelthebern

    Bitter sweet BB.
    Cheers to you having a son.
    Jeers about it being with the ex.

  60. feelthebern

    Oh I agree with you bespoke.

  61. Leigh Lowe

    “The concept of a straight line is an abstract and doesn’t exist in reality.”
    You sound like my fucking builder.

  62. Des Deskperson

    ‘This got sent to me as a mutual acquaintance is mentioned. It’s quite interesting:

    We Asked Canberra’s Hospo Workers to Review Australian Politician’

    It interesting, thanks, Nick, although I take the depiction of Dutton as an eye-rolling sexist with a grain of salt.

    Despite what people think, your average Canberran doesn’t encounter many politicians who, when they leave the House at all, tend to congregate in Manuka and Kingston. With a couple of notable exceptions, the standard of food, beverages and service in these precinct tends to be pretty ordinary.

    There is a large Italian restaurant in Manuka, glitzy and showy but culinarily mediocre, the sort of place a real estate agent might celebrate a sales coup with his or her mates. It’s the sort of place that might appeal to a parvenue like the Plibbster, but I would have expected her poshly educated hubby to be more discerning.

  63. zyconoclast

    Trade Me pulls controversial ‘It’s ok to be white’ T-shirts

    Trademe’s head of trust and safety George Hiotakis confirmed in a statement that the company has removed the sale of these items last Thursday evening.

    Previously, the company told Newshub it didn’t intend to remove the post as they believed the listing did not breach its rules and regulations and it didn’t “cross the line”.

    “New Zealand has told us that they don’t want to see this sort of thing on Trade Me and we agree, so this slogan will not be allowed to be sold on any item on our site.”

  64. feelthebern

    Makka, Post Natal Depression, chemically, is one of the most debilitating forms of mental illness.
    As tragic as it is, the woman in question was not her “real” self.
    I’m surprised (and thankful) we do not see more of this.

  65. notafan

    Women have been known to drown their kids, this seems unheard of?

    Really, the woman in the west DROVE her four children into that lake,drwoing three of them as did the fellow outside Ballarat (book by Helen Garner on that one)

    I don’t suppose she meant it to be a giant fireball though.

    I don’t know that death by drowning is much less terrifiying though not as painful.

  66. Knuckle Dragger

    On the rare occasions when I want to wind the ladeees in a group up when the subject (inevitably, somehow) turns to childbirth, I will be as dismissive as I can, and make commentary along the lines of ‘you’re designed for it, what are you bitching about’ before retiring out the back of whoever’s house it is to listen to the ensuing end of the world.

    In reality I’m not dismissive of childbirth at all, having watched it at very close range.

    But it’s still a question of biology. Women, by definition, are designed to give birth. Men are designed to lift heavy things, protect their own, overpower dangerous things and get punched in the face. Both are subject to differing types of stress.

  67. feelthebern

    nota, that one in the US is pure fucking evil.

  68. zyconoclast

    Self-censorship on Campus Is Bad for Science

    Amid heightened tensions on college campuses, well-established scientific ideas are suddenly meeting with stiff political resistance.

  69. notafan

    FTB

    couldn’t agree more especially given the long history of abuse but blind eye because prog dream family

  70. feelthebern

    Anyway, off to pick up a dog poo or two.
    & I can’t use the hose because of water restrictions…or can I?

  71. Leigh Lowe

    Sinc.
    Can we please ban the phrase “Clinton probe”?
    At least around mealtimes.
    Thanking you in advance.

  72. feelthebern

    The worst part of having a dog is the poo picking up.
    The best part is have a hot water bottle that never goes cold during the winter.

  73. bespoke

    It also comes down to family and friends leaving up to authorities to sort it out. A bit of respite go’s a long way plus some tough love like this is how it is deal with it.

  74. Makka

    bern,

    I have trouble buying it, sorry. IF you can manage to put together something like this then you have enough scruples to know you’re offing your young family and all the horror that entails.

  75. Leigh Lowe

    Anyway, off to pick up a dog poo or two.
    & I can’t use the hose because of water restrictions…or can I?

    I suppose you could suck it up through a hose but it requires excellent pressure control in the diaphragm to avoid that nasty taste.
    I’d just use a plastic bag.

  76. feelthebern

    Well played Leigh Lowe.
    Well played.

  77. feelthebern

    I suppose we’ll only find out makka when the coroners report is done & dusted.
    & hopefully it will be all public.
    Unlike the Luke Batty report which has parts still under wraps.
    When does that all get made public? Or is it under wraps for good?
    Hopefully Ms Batty has squirrelled away enough money before it gets made public, because I reckon she’ll struggle to raise a cent post full, public viewing.

  78. RobK

    You sound like my fucking builder.
    Chuckle.

  79. Shy Ted

    Boambee John #3031540, posted on June 1, 2019 at 9:35 am
    *Trump was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem. This comment has no relevance to Nixon and Watergate. Looks like a clear case of perseveration

    Boambee is right, it’s perseveration not OCD. Most commonly seen in organic mental disorders.

  80. stackja

    Leigh Lowe
    #3031709, posted on June 1, 2019 at 11:53 am

    Do Green dog owners use plastic bags?

  81. feelthebern

    That hose gag, LL was the exact kind of set up Archer would respond with.
    Good to see the Archer-isms are spreading.

  82. rickw

    Who’s saying research JC?
    The research is done.
    The proof is in (Germany).
    Spend the bucks now on post natal check ups, save billions over the next 20, 30 years.

    In OZ the post natal check up regime is reasonably rigorous.

  83. Steve trickler

    A few good laughs here.🤣



  84. Arky

    …And yet another vehicular murder suicide by chicks:


  85. Bruce of Newcastle

    Do Green dog owners use plastic bags?

    Greens aren’t allowed to own dogs because of their horrific effect on global warming.

  86. Arky

    That one was Harvey Keitel’s fault though.

  87. Stimpson J. Cat

    Is it possible for men to suffer from stress disorders from the birth of their children?

    No.
    Women just need to harden up.
    It’s not like giving birth is actually hard or anything, honestly.
    Wah wah wah it’s all about me.
    What about the poor kid, they literally only just just started breathing, poor buggers.
    😁

  88. I don’t know that death by drowning is much less terrifiying though not as painful.

    From my experience drowning is extraordinarily unpleasant.

    There is a reason for near drowning being used as an interrogation method.

  89. Fisky, the graph you put up last night – can you expand on what it means?
    My ability to understand stats is lacking, and I feel there is an important point here.

  90. Geriatric Mayfly

    Greens aren’t allowed to own dogs because of their horrific effect on global warming.

    On which note, good see that champagne sales are down. Less CO2 contributing to our demise.

  91. Diogenes

    reality I’m not dismissive of childbirth at all, having watched it at very close range.

    How much is cultural,? my nurse niece spent 2 weeks volunteering in Burma, mums walked in, laid down, grunted a few times, had a kip for afew hours, grabbed bub and walked out again. Anglos will yell and carry on, but ladies from the mideast sound like a jumbo taking off… ymmv

  92. cohenite

    If she committed murder suicide it was the second biggest mass murder of children in Australia in recent times with both being done by the fair sex. The biggest one:

    A mother who admitted killing eight children in a home in Cairns will not face a criminal trial, after Queensland’s Mental Health Court ruled she was of “unsound mind” when they were fatally stabbed…

    Dr Frank Varghese, one of two psychiatrists assisting Justice Dalton, said Thaiday’s “apocalyptic delusional state” was one of the worst cases of schizophrenia he had ever seen.

    He said it may have been triggered by Thaiday’s long-term cannabis usage, which only stopped months before the killings.

  93. Stimpson J. Cat

    How much is cultural?

    White Women will whine about anything, even whining.
    Ethnic Women just get on with it and get it done.
    It’s why they typically make better, more attractive, easier to ignore wives.
    😁

  94. notafan

    I don’t know that death by drowning is much less terrifiying though not as painful.

    From my experience drowning is extraordinarily unpleasant.

    I think we are in agreement then

  95. CL:
    Just how corrupt are the Democrats?
    That’s incredible!
    Here’s the link for anyone who missed it.

  96. Makka

    How corrupt are the Dimocrats?

    Federal Judge Who Blocked Trump’s Wall Donated to Obama

    A federal judge who ruled against President Donald Trump using Defense Department funds to build additional border fencing on May 24 donated to former President Barack Obama—the third Democrat donor judge to rule against the Republican president in a week.

    U.S. District Court Judge Haywood Gilliam Jr. was confirmed in 2014 after being nominated by Obama and receiving a recommendation by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). Gilliam was in private practice for nearly a decade at the law firms of Bingham McCutchen and Covington & Burling before being nominated.

    According to federal election records, Gilliam donated $6,900 to Obama’s campaign for president—$4,600 to Obama for America and $2,300 to the Obama Victory Fund.

    Gilliam donated additional funds to Obama’s re-election campaign, sending $13,500 to Obama for America and Obama Victory Fund 2012. He also donated $4,500 to the Democratic National Committee. From 2012 to November 2014, he sent $3,100 to the Covington and Burling LLP PAC.

  97. notafan

    I don’t know about either or as all mine were Caesarian except I bet Australia has a much lower incidence of maternal and infant deaths than Burma

    maybe Burmese women have smaller babies, they certainly hae lots more malnourished one

  98. Grigory M

    The Shoalhaven dam should have gone ahead thirty years ago. I think we have Steel Cut Oats Carr to thank for its shelving.

    Incorrect – the Welcome Reef Dam proposed for the Shoalhaven River was postponed indefinitely by the Fahey Coalition Government in July 1993. Their decision to do so was based on a ‘risk management’ strategy whereby:

    – further capital in dams investment would be postponed until a water supply crisis point was reached;
    – alternative technology, such as reverse osmosis (a desalination plant), would then be installed asap.

    Advisers to the Greiner and Fahey Governments were promoting the decision on the basis that new dam expenditure could not be justified simply to produce more potable water that would be mostly wasted on flushing toilets, watering gardens and washing cars. At the same time, those same advisers were promoting the introduction of user pays water charging – and Sydney Water had embarked on the Rouse Hill Water Sewerage and Drainage Infrastucture Project with property developers and landholders in the city’s north west sector. This project included secondary reticulation of treated sewage water to all properties in the sector – for all purposes where potable water was not needed.

  99. Shy Ted

    Leigh Lowe #3031493, posted on June 1, 2019 at 8:47 am
    Having two lightly poached black throated finch eggs for brekkie. With smoked dolphin kippers. Yum.

    May I borrow that for a gathering of insufferable lefties tonight? You can borrow my usual line – Q “What do men with big dix have for breakfast?” A “Well, this morning I had…” (insert menu most likely to cause offence). You may or may not need a Plan B if one of the naughtier/drunker ladies asks for proof. Don’t use this joke in the vicinity of Zimmerman/Marr/Wilson/Wong types.

  100. Arky

    Farage rang up Rees- Mogg on Rees- Mogg’s show, did not sound very cordial:


  101. Ethnic Women just get on with it and get it done.
    It’s why they typically make better, more attractive, easier to ignore wives.

    You obviously don’t have a Japanese wife.

    To paraphrase Chris Rock – they need food, water & compliments, and the occasional pair of shoes.

    Kyoto sake helps along with black ink buns with red bean paste.

  102. Stimpson J. Cat

    may have been triggered by Thaiday’s long-term cannabis usage

    Skitz and dope don’t mix.
    Unfortunately it’s almost impossible to know if you are skitz BEFORE you start smoking dope, unless you very lucky indeed.

  103. Stimpson J. Cat

    You obviously don’t have a Japanese wife.

    Shut up and do as you are told.
    You bought her a gun AND taught her how to shoot.
    It’s your own fault.
    And Sane people have the nerve to call me crazy, honestly .
    😁

  104. Arky

    Women are an enigma.
    Asian ones are an enigma wrapped in a puzzle and then plonked in a bowl of garlic and soy sauce.

  105. P

    Pell stands at the gate to freedom … or perdition
    The Australian, John Ferguson, 12:00AM June 1, 2019.

    The abovementioned article (behind paywall) is fairly long but most interesting.
    His appeal will commence on Wednesday. He will turn 78yrs on Saturday.

    Prayers.

  106. Zatara

    Tonight’s Hannity Show that Tom was discussing at #3031669, posted on June 1, 2019 at 11:22 am.

    First part is good but the panel discussion starts about 8:40.

    That downhill-rolling snowball is getting bigger and closer.

  107. Sinclair Davidson

    Okay peeps. Serious issue.

    Last year Mrs D and I did the downsizing thing. WiFi reception in the new place is lousy. I have tried various wifi extenders and what not but am having little joy.

    Any thoughts? Is there a knack to it. Some obvious thing that needs doing (I have tried swearing at it, I’ve cursed the wifi-gods but have yet to sacrifice a goat). Any special equipment?

  108. Stimpson J. Cat

    You would be amazed how many different problems can be solved simply by putting a new slant on top of things –
    Stimpson J. Cat

  109. Stimpson J. Cat

    Okay peeps. Serious issue.

    It’s time to shine, nerds, and journalists, we need you!
    Awaken!!!

  110. egg_

    BOM are the m0nty of the weather world.

    Teh Dept of Wrongology?
    With all those Eastern Bloc staff and a valve computer – what could go wrong?
    Have they moved on from punched paper tape yet?

  111. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals on the basis of their sexual orientation. My Administration has launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all nations to join us in this effort!
    3:12 AM · Jun 1, 2019

  112. cohenite

    Blair Cottrell come out:

    So who’s proud of me for finally deciding to come out of the closet and publicly declare my transition to womanhood? Who said nazis can’t be women? Eva Braun was a woman and I’ve heard she started life as a man named Evan Brown.
    Should I come out in a big way at the mardi gras in a sequin evening gown or should I just do it privately at a KKK meeting?
    Thoughts?

    The big lunk has a sense of humour; who would’ve thought.

  113. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh Lowe #3031493, posted on June 1, 2019 at 8:47 am
    Having two lightly poached black throated finch eggs for brekkie. With smoked dolphin kippers. Yum.
    May I borrow that for a gathering of insufferable lefties tonight?

    No probs.
    The beauty of the black throated finch joke is that quail (both both bird and eggs) can be used as props.
    When they get outraged just say “Easy tiger. It was already dead when I fished it out of the grille of the Land Cruiser.”

  114. Armadillo:

    I’m also interested in how the expert pundits got it – the election – so wrong.

    I wonder as well, but seeing that my only two political bets of my life have netted me $35,500 + $3150, or $2,500, depending on the margin of seats held by the Libs, I don’t really care.
    I have one more bet on the 2020 elections in the US, and will most likely retire with my ill gotten loot.
    OK – boasting aside Armadillo, for about ten years I’ve been getting calls from polling agencies, about six times in all. I’ve always taken a contrarian view. Not really the shy Tory, more a booster for the other side.
    I wonder how many other people have done the same thing? The cooking tea, watching TV or whatever interruptions that have blighted our lives and continue to do so on a daily basis, surely there must be some level of blowback?

  115. jupes

    According to the British Army, the following statements make you an Extreme Right Winger and therefore no longer fit to serve:

    * I am a patriot.
    * Political correctness is a left wing plot.
    * The left is evil.
    * The terrorist attack was conducted by Islamofacists.
    * Londonistan is a lost city.
    * Multiculturalism will lead to race war.
    * Immigration is the root of injustice against pensioners.
    * The more Muslims, the more terrorism.

    I kid you not.

  116. egg_

    On the no perfect circles in the universe proposition

    Methinks a gas bubble in a liquid would approach a perfect sphere.

  117. jupes

    According to the British Army, the following statements make you an Extreme Right Winger and therefore no longer fit to serve:

    * I am a patriot.
    * Political correctness is a left wing plot.
    * The left is evil.
    * The terrorist attack was conducted by I*l*m*f*cists.
    * Londonistan is a lost city.
    * Multiculturalism will lead to race war.
    * Immigration is the root of injustice against pensioners.
    * The more M*sl*ms, the more terrorism.

    I kid you not.

  118. On the no perfect circles in the universe proposition

    Leftist arguments are circular.

  119. cohenite

    Methinks a gas bubble in a liquid would approach a perfect sphere.

    Correct. After having a vitrectomy I can confirm the gas residue in my left eye forms a perfect circle.

  120. Infidel Tiger

    Wow.

    Just watched a live auction of some dump in Newtown sell for $2.75m. $550k over reserve.

    Sydney real estate is bonkers. I would pay $2.75m not to live in Newtown.

  121. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals on the basis of their sexual orientation. My Administration has launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all nations to join us in this effort!
    3:12 AM · Jun 1, 2019

    Don should put punitive tariffs on all anti-fag nations.

    Left wouldn’t know what to say.

  122. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stay classy London.

    Lewis Pennock
    @PennockPost
    New: London’s City Hall has given permission for the massive @realDonaldTrump baby blimp to fly over Parliament Square during his state visit next week.
    12:28 AM · Jun 1, 2019

  123. Entropy

    Get a proper mesh system Doom Lord. They beam the wifi to each remote station. To give you an idea, on our 114mbps connection I was getting 5 mbps at the other end of the house. With an extender I go to 25 with a wifi extender. Put in a mesh system and it is 100 Mbps throughout the house.
    I got a netgear orbi AC3000 set up and never looked back. That was a year go or so so there are no doubt better options probably now. Also the base and remote stations are quite big.
    Google wifi about the cheapest, but I frankly would not trust them with my network. Snoopy bastards.
    Here is a ranking https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/rankers/wifi-system/view

    Although it does not have the Amplifi options which look very nice. And frankly I would have got those but for the price.
    Don’t get lincsys. Huge privacy reach issues recently.

  124. Makka

    New: London’s City Hall has given permission for the massive @realDonaldTrump baby blimp to fly over Parliament Square during his state visit next week.

    A giant air filled squirrel. Meanwhile;

    Sadiq Khan has presided over an “alarming hike in violent crime” in the three years since he has become London mayor, according to analysis by the Greater London Assembly Conservatives.
    Published to coincide with the anniversary of Mayor Khan’s third year in office, the report, The Cost of Khan, revealed what the Conservative authors described as a legacy of mayoralty “defined by financial incompetence, a raft of broken promises, and a lack of delivery for Londoners” on issues including housing, transport, and law and order.

    According to analysis conducted by the LGA Conservatives, under Mayor Khan knife crime has risen by 52 per cent, robbery by 59 per cent, and gun crime by 30 per cent.

  125. DrBeauGan

    A non-rotating black hole would be an almost perfect sphere. But almost doesn’t cut it.

  126. bespoke

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3031747, posted on June 1, 2019 at 12:50 pm
    Okay peeps. Serious issue.

    It’s time to shine, nerds, and journalists, we need you!
    Awaken!!!

    What is needed is a geek not a nerd, Geeks speak from experience and nerds just talk endlessly to sound smart (economist).

  127. Leigh Lowe

    Thankfully, the heavy hitters in the Blues membership (like pokies king Bruce Matheson) are now moving against him and Brad Scott’s decision to pull the pin at North has put a cat among the pigeons in the AFL coaching merry-go-round.

    No, not Brad Scott!
    As much as I detest the blue-baggers, that is cruel and unusual punishment.
    I reckon his biggest problem is that whatever happens it is never his fault. It is always a failure to execute the Grand Plan by the players. Except the Gran Plan is reactionary, and contradictory within the same game depending on how things are going.

  128. Fisky

    Winston, it maps each Trump or Clinton across economic and social axes instead of traditional left-right. As you can see, most Trump voters are economic centrists and social traditionalists, while Clinton voters are more libertine socially and economically leftist.

    Most strikingly, there are hardly any voters in the “libertarian” quadrant whatsoever. It’s a practically non-existent political persuasion. The choices are populism or leftism. That’s all.

  129. bundyrum

    Probably been mentioned that Adani may get the go ahead soon. I believe a few thousand jobs will be created.
    Enough for Australian hating politicians to hand out 100,000 457 visas ïn India to cover it.

  130. Fisky

    Trump or Clinton voter

  131. rickw

    According to analysis conducted by the LGA Conservatives, under Mayor Khan knife crime has risen by 52 per cent, robbery by 59 per cent, and gun crime by 30 per cent.

    Elect m u s l i m, get I s l a m i c shithole.

  132. EvilElvis

    Makka

    This country forks over hundreds of millions , billions , in health and welfare support from taxpayers.

    Yep. Just change what the tragedy is and you’ll find an overfunded yet under resourced where needed government department. Rest assured Makka, more of your money is needed…

  133. Infidel Tiger

    Carlton could end up with Paul Roos. Might as well wind the club up if that happens.

  134. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger
    #3031761, posted on June 1, 2019 at 1:07 pm
    Wow.
    Just watched a live auction of some dump in Newtown sell for $2.75m. $550k over reserve.
    Sydney real estate is bonkers. I would pay $2.75m not to live in Newtown.

    One of the great joys of having offspring who don’t require constant mollycoddling and no longer have work ties to a big city.

    You can bail to a major regional centre and buy a corker of a house for well under $1 meg and spend the remainder on Cuban cigars and Burgundy.

  135. Gab

    Sinclair Davidson

    #3031511, posted on June 1, 2019 at 9:08 am

    Morning Gab.

    Some threadsters suggested, rather unkindly, that I need instruction on how many open threads we should have per week.

    The insolence.

    Ban ’em, Sinclair.

  136. Leigh Lowe

    Okay peeps. Serious issue.
    Last year Mrs D and I did the downsizing thing. WiFi reception in the new place is lousy. I have tried various wifi extenders and what not but am having little joy.

    Tilt slab concrete walls?

  137. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger
    #3031775, posted on June 1, 2019 at 1:24 pm
    Carlton could end up with Paul Roos. Might as well wind the club up if that happens.

    I would be happy with that if it meant he spent less time at my local café taking up three tables with his (cough) very important meetings.

  138. rickw

    Enough for Australian hating politicians to hand out 100,000 457 visas ïn India to cover it.

    How much machinery are you buying?

    None.

    What about picks and shovels?

    100,000

  139. Stimpson J. Cat

    Most strikingly, there are hardly any voters in the “libertarian” quadrant whatsoever. It’s a practically non-existent political persuasion.

    Do you have any idea just how hard it is to choose a Bowtie, let alone vote for someone?

  140. Geriatric Mayfly

    A bit hazy on verbatim quotes from scripture. But, from the get go, was not painful childbirth a punishment meted out for misbehaviour in the Garden of Eden?

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Got in three movies in the ten hour day trip to Shanghai. Reviews will be short because I only have my phone.

    The Green Book: avoided seeing this with my Chickflix friends because I thought it would be very PC but I was wrong. 1962 Italian yobbo takes bodyguard job driving rich cultured ‘negro’ pianist on Deep South tour of high end gigs. They become friends, all social tables turned in the car but true racism needs fighting still in the South at that time.

    Laurel and Hardy: cute and very British ongoing bromance between these two fallen on slightly hard times. Sub-plot is the love their wives have for their rather weird hubbies. Touching and nostalgic.

    Bye bye Germany: German made movie about a group of Jooish men who stayed on in the immediate post WW2 period running a sales scam in order to get funds to go to America. One is accused of collaborating, but of course he didn’t, he was just imaginative. Lightly done but still harrowing in some of its concentration camp flashback scenes.

  142. Entropy

    According to analysis conducted by the LGA Conservatives, under Mayor Khan knife crime has risen by 52 per cent, robbery by 59 per cent, and gun crime by 30 per cent.

    What does that have to do with local government? Isn’t it the “conservative” May Government’s fault? They are a bit busy trying to brexit without actually brexiting, the idiots.

  143. egg_

    Sydney on water restrictions for the first time in ten years because of CLIMATE CHANGE.
    Sydney has added over a million people to the population in the same time. That amounts to 200 megalitres extra water a day based on the useage per head.
    Could there be a link?

    The copious resources and energy used for Third Worlders to cook a single meal, it’s unsurprising.

  144. egg_

    Do you have any idea just how hard it is to choose a Bowtie, let alone vote for someone?

    Or lining up the next Billionaire patron?
    Didn’t Marx have a patron?

  145. Fleeced

    Sinc wrote:

    Last year Mrs D and I did the downsizing thing. WiFi reception in the new place is lousy. I have tried various wifi extenders and what not but am having little joy.

    A big powerful one is better than wifi extenders. Better option might be wireless access points that are themselves wired in. That is, an additional wireless access point, that is connected by ethernet cable to the main wireless router. That might need you do drill a hole or two to run the cable. This might need some configuration to ensure the AP is extending the network and not creating a subnet.

    Alternatively (or perhaps, additionally), you could try getting wired points into the TV room and other areas where you have fixed devices, so that only phones and genuine mobile devices need to rely on wifi. This will also require some drilling and cabling.

    If you try the new mesh routers, I’d recommend a similar thing as option 1 (that is, wire the additional mesh devices in rather than wireless connection – it’s more reliable).

  146. rickw:

    The Chicoms are trying hard to get a bloody nose. It will most likely come first in PNG, the PNG ruling class will push things to far, the locals will settle the score in their usual fashion, everyone gets Chinese for dinner, literally.

    Ha ha!
    Good one Centurion!

  147. Diogenes

    What does that have to do with local government? I

    The Met belongum Mayor of Londonistan for local policing & the Home Secretary for the Scotland Yard bits.

    The Commissioner is accountable in law for exercising police powers and to the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) and is held to account for the delivery of policing by the Home Secretary and the Mayor of London. Both have a role in appointing the Commissioner, with the decision taken by the Home Secretary following consultation with the mayor.

    The Home Secretary also has a specific role regarding the functions of the Met that go beyond policing London – for example, counter-terrorism policing and the national policing functions that the Met carries out.

    The Mayor of London was given a direct mandate for policing in London in 2011, as part of the Police and Social Responsibility Act. As such, the Mayor is responsible for setting the strategic direction of policing in London through the Police and Crime Plan.

    https://www.met.police.uk/police-forces/metropolitan-police/areas/about-us/about-the-met/governance/

  148. DrBeauGan

    Mitch M.
    #3031789, posted on June 1, 2019 at 1:45 pm
    One in 10 ‘is mistaken about identity of father’

    Why does that fraction start out at 4% and suddenly become 1 in 10? Better headline than 1 in 25?

  149. Probably been mentioned that Adani may get the go ahead soon. I believe a few thousand jobs will be created.

    Depends who you listen to.
    Anything from 1,464 jobs to 10,000, although the first figure was given under oath in the Land Court, so may be slightly more reliable.
    If the Surat basin (a very different project) is any guide, figures spruiked 4 years ago have not been realised.
    Local perceptions (especially in Miles) are largely negative.

  150. Infidel Tiger

    David French is a prissy bow tie spinning fool.

    Sohrab Ahmari has rightly schooled him.

    The public square is not neutral. It’s a war zone.

  151. Nick

    Any thoughts? Is there a knack to it. Some obvious thing that needs doing (I have tried swearing at it, I’ve cursed the wifi-gods but have yet to sacrifice a goat). Any special equipment?

    I had similar issues. I had a small, plug in Logitech extender that worked for a while and have moved to a much larger, DLink extender that is ‘ok’. As Entropy suggested, get a mesh system of day, 3, standalone stations.

  152. Steve trickler

    Occupational Health and Safety takes a back seat in this part of the world. Everyone knows the risks.

    A great clip from 2012.



  153. Fleeced

    I forgot to add, that if you don’t want to drill holes to extend the wired Internet, you can use those Ethernet over Power devices (also called powerline adapters). They’re especially handy if you want to connect the granny flat.

  154. DrBeauGan

    Arky, did you see the common core arithmetic demo in Stimpy’s post? What did you think of it?

  155. calli

    The one on the right is the way I was taught. Easy as.

    The one on the left – what the? Decimals would be a hoot.

  156. Infidel Tiger

    OMFG. Gillette gets even more woke.

    Sick stuff.

    Notice how they always use black people for these sick and perverted ads.

    If I was black I would burn their HQ down.

    Corporatism is the greatest evil the world has ever faced.

  157. Fisky

    Lots of fake suicide attempts on Manus, about 30 and counting. These “refugees” are not very competent at anything, but if only we let them in they will revitalise the economy!

  158. Makka

    Surat Basin, CSG. From the CSIRO (green dream central) ………..

    Conclusion
    • Forecasting economics is like forecasting the weather
    • = Projections based on best available information (not predictions)
    • The research considered a range of plausible scenarios
    • In 2034, most scenarios indicate:
    • lower indirect jobs compared to 2014
    higher indirect jobs compared with 2006
    Oscillating periods of increase and decrease are likely
    • Lessons learned from the construction phase are highly relavent for local business during the construction phase.

    So jobs have grown and with it the economy in that region. As construction peaks and phases out , growth in jobs subsides. (Astounding!)

    Result: a much better economy delivering better lifestyles and family security. Terrible stuff!

  159. Oh come on

    I like the guy’s point at the end. The shemale takes pills so she can grow hair on her face that she then shaves off. This would be hilarious if it wasn’t so abhorrent.

  160. DrBeauGan

    calli
    #3031810, posted on June 1, 2019 at 2:03 pm
    The one on the right is the way I was taught. Easy as.

    The one on the left – what the? Decimals would be a hoot.

    Yes, ,but you are a lot brighter than the kids the left one was aimed at, and were when you were five too. I am interested in Arky’s view because he has taught some dim kids and probably knows how they think.

  161. notafan

    Amir Taghinia’s new life is outwardly pleasant but inwardly tortured.

    He shares a basement flat in a leafy suburb, works at a popular tourist attraction and studies at Vancouver Community College.

    But he has gone from being a sought-after person — a Manus celebrity whose advice, skills and advocacy were sorely needed — to being a young immigrant in a city of polite but distant Canadians.

    the suffering never ends

  162. Oh come on

    Nota – LOL! These people are beyond parody.

  163. egg_

    Anyone else see a pattern?

    Bad haircuts?

  164. Fisky

    The house organ of “classical liberalism” speaks –

    The Economist

    @TheEconomist

    The West has few Muslim heroes but, astonishingly, a 12th-century jihadist is one of them

  165. Fisky

    The house organ of “classical liberalism” speaks –

    The Economist

    @TheEconomist

    The West has few M0slem heroes but, astonishingly, a 12th-century j1hadist is one of them

  166. Leigh Lowe

    I read yesterday that an AFL fan got three weeks suspension because he called the umpy a “green maggot”.

  167. Fisky

    The Left were salivating before May 18 at the chance to destroy their enemies, punish Christians, etc. Now they are whimperingly begging Morrison for the chance to sign onto his religious freedom bill. This just proves that they are cowardly bullies who will cave in if you give them a decent thump.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/anthony-albaneses-team-in-warning-on-religious-freedom/news-story/476745867df5a71e06d2f49df87f9ef5

  168. bespoke

    I am interested in Arky’s view because he has taught some dim kids and probably knows how they think.

    Chicken? Egg?

  169. Result: a much better economy delivering better lifestyles and family security. Terrible stuff!

    Obviously, you believe that you know better than the people who actually live in the Surat basin.
    I suggest you visit Miles (for example) and speak to the small business owners, particularly the moteliers.
    The local perceptions are largely negative. Check the graphed results of the community surveys of attitudes to the development (June 2017).
    *Miles –
    Outright rejection – 15%
    Tolerate – 31%
    Accept – 36%
    Approve – 11%
    Embrace – 7%
    *p9

  170. Nick

    From Notas’ link:

    There’s other refugees that we’ve heard of, that no one met them at the airport, and they were alone at the airport for hours, trying to work out where to go and what to do.

    “These people really do need help.”

    It could almost be the Onion

  171. DrBeauGan

    Where is Arky when you need him?

  172. Fisky

    It always makes me wonder if these so-called “refugee advocates” have ever met an actual, genuine refugee in their entire lives (rather than spending most of their time hanging out with these useless middle-class ingrates from Iran). Everything that comes out of their mouth speaks arrogance and entitlement; actual refugees are grateful to have a roof over their heads and enough to eat.

  173. Leigh Lowe

    Fisky
    #3031828, posted on June 1, 2019 at 2:25 pm
    The Left were salivating before May 18 at the chance to destroy their enemies, punish Christians, etc. Now they are whimperingly begging Morrison for the chance to sign onto his religious freedom bill. This just proves that they are cowardly bullies who will cave in if you give them a decent thump.

    Steady on.
    The Liars want to insert themselves into the argument so that they can frame this around victim poker intersectionality.
    So, if you are a white Anglo Christian, you can’t possibly be discriminated against.
    If, on the other hand, you are a Pakistani muslim with a limp …

    Of course, it will take some contortions to ignore Izzy Folau and take the Vicar’s side, but they will find a way.
    Using the already stacked HRC system should solve that.

  174. Leigh Lowe

    Fisky
    #3031828, posted on June 1, 2019 at 2:25 pm
    The Left were salivating before May 18 at the chance to destroy their enemies, punish Christians, etc. Now they are whimperingly begging Morrison for the chance to sign onto his religious freedom bill. This just proves that they are cowardly bullies who will cave in if you give them a decent thump.

    Steady on.
    The Liars want to insert themselves into the argument so that they can frame this around victim poker intersectionality.
    So, if you are a white Anglo Christian, you can’t possibly be discriminated against.
    If, on the other hand, you are a Pakistani mislum with a limp …
    Of course, it will take some contortions to ignore Izzy Folau and take the Vicar’s side, but they will find a way.
    Using the already stacked HRC system should solve that.

  175. Oh come on

    Numpty, those numbers show overwhelming community acceptance. Only 15% oppose. Talk about a self-own.

  176. Fisky

    This fake refugee influx is mostly just a search for self-actualisation among the failed middle-classes of Central Asia. These are people who got into debt to loansharks, couldn’t qualify for a normal visa in the country of their choice, or were just trapped in a nothing job and wanted a way out. The proportion of genuine refugees among the boaties (90% of who destroy their documents) is tiny.

  177. Fisky

    Numpty, those numbers show overwhelming community acceptance. Only 15% oppose. Talk about a self-own.

    Which reminds me –

    The standard of maths teaching and learning in 2014 is streets ahead of where it was at when I started teaching in 1969.

  178. bespoke

    Numpty, those numbers show overwhelming community acceptance. Only 15% oppose. Talk about a self-own.

    In that case he will find some bad planing of the towns location then blame them all.

  179. Leigh Lowe

    actual refugees are grateful to have a roof over their heads and enough to eat.

    Well, it goes a little further than that.
    The real McCoy refugees immediately want to know how they can a job, learn English, get their kids into school, and then buy a car and a house.
    Latham made that point about the divide in attitudes of refugees with a generation.
    25 years ago the first question was “where can I get a job”.
    Now they come armed with a shopping list of entitlements fed to them by advocates.

  180. Oh come on

    Let’s reinterpret those numbers:

    Don’t like/really don’t like- 15%
    Whatever – 31%
    Yep ok – 36%
    Like – 11%
    Yay! – 7%

    Numpty thinks the above means

    The local perceptions are largely negative

    Keep up the good work, Numpty.

  181. Stimpson J. Cat

    It always makes me wonder if these so-called “refugee advocates” have ever met an actual, genuine refugee in their entire lives

    I mean, some of us have married them, not that it’s a competition or anything (And then divorced them for stealing all our jobs.)
    Just joking, it’s just jokes guys, relax!
    Take it easy. 😁

  182. Oh come on

    The standard of maths teaching and learning in 2014 is streets ahead of where it was at when I started teaching in 1969.

    Ask him about how he had to teach the children of Saigonese war criminals. He loves that one.

  183. Fisky

    The best economist in the world is rightly honoured –

    Peter Baker

    @peterbakernyt

    Trump to award Medal of Freedom to Arthur Laffer, father of supply side economics that gained prominence in the Reagan years.

  184. Numpty, those numbers show overwhelming community acceptance. Only 15% oppose. Talk about a self-own.

    There’s that Catallaxy universe asserting itself again.
    You know the one – where “Tolerate” (31%) and “Accept” (36%) mean “overwhelming community acceptance”.
    Your problem isn’t maths – it’s English comprehension.
    The verb tolerate means “to put up with or allow”.
    Almost half the businessmen in Miles surveyed in 2017 either reject or put up with the development – hardly a ringing endorsement.

  185. Fisky

    PoliticusUSA

    @politicususa
    · May 25
    Trump accuses the UK and Australia of spying on him and demands that Barr investigate.
    (link: http://ow.ly/knDL30oOSux)
    ow.ly/knDL30oOSux

    Great work, Downer!

  186. Fisky

    Almost half the businessmen in Miles surveyed in 2017 either reject or put up with the development – hardly a ringing endorsement.

    And the overwhelming two-thirds either accept or tolerate the development. They are fine with it going ahead, which it must if democracy means anything.

  187. Last year Mrs D and I did the downsizing thing. WiFi reception in the new place is lousy. I have tried various wifi extenders and what not but am having little joy.

    WiFi is easily disrupted.

    e.g. switch on the microwave and see what happens. It usually flattens all reception.
    WiFi transmitter next to the fridge is next killer. Fridge comes on and there goes the WiFi.

    In other words look for the competing RF source.

  188. cohenite

    Stimpson J. Cat

    #3031851, posted on June 1, 2019 at 3:05 pm

    Check it out yourself:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/AntarcticaRockSurface.jpg

  189. Pedro the Ignorant

    I fail to understand how a small business owner in a mining town would “reject” a new mining operation with all the associated downstream business created to cater for the project.

    What sort of business would not want increased patronage, turnover and profit even if it does come from blow ins?

    If it was a yuppie town full of craft shops and twee little organic cafes I could see the dislike, all those rough hairy miners don’t usually buy frilly doilies and soy latte with caramel toppings, but in a town in a well established mining area?

    Strange people.

  190. Stimpson J. Cat

    Check it out yourself:

    Do you struggle with reading comprehension?
    I do.
    There’s no shame in it.
    Sometimes I need things explained to me in small words by people smarter than me.

  191. Fisky

    David French
    @DavidAFrench
    12h
    Replying to
    @mjs_DC
    This is the key question. To ban drag queen story hour, you have to adjust the law, and adjusting the law would involve intruding upon 1) local control of the library; 2) freedom of association; and 3) freedom of speech — and that’s just to start.

    OK, accepting those premises for the moment – how many True Conservatives (TM) have forcefully denounced Drag Queen Story Hour, called it a moral outrage, said that no responsible parent would allow their children to be subjected to it, etc etc? Rather than just make excuses for why nothing should be done about it.

    I don’t think any of the NeverTrumpers actually oppose this atrocity in a moral sense, let alone in the “neutral political arena”. That’s why we got Trump.

  192. Bruce of Newcastle

    Stimpy – I am not a Christian Scientist. I am a Christian scientist. There’s a difference…

    Underneath the Antarctic ice a whole bunch of mountain ranges and hills and lakes and volcanoes exist. That’s all that story is about. The ice doesn’t flow in directions where there are mountain ranges in the way.

    Antarctica ain’t melting.

    10 Of 10 Coastal Antarctic Stations Show Zero Warming Over Past Decades. Failed Scientists Need To Resign (31 May)

    I second that remark.

  193. Eyrie

    The moteliers in the Surat Basin had quite few VERY good years. It was damn near impossible to get a room casually as we found out when we figured on spending a night in Dalby a few years ago. Every room was booked including all the pubs. On a Tuesday. The companies used to book just in case one of their people needed a room and a lot of the time they didn’t and there was no servicing involved.
    Diddums if things have gone back to normal.

  194. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’ll correct myself. The ridge they reckon they’ve found is under the sea not the ice. Still the ice ain’t going to melt when there isn’t any Antarctic warming going on. Even if the underside of the sea ice melted it’d just replace itself because of the cold air above.

  195. Steve trickler

    For all lurking MSM journos here……( :



  196. Mitch M.

    The Believing Brain: Evolution, Neuroscience, and the Spiritual Instinct

    I’ll have to become a Jungian because this popped up just two hours ago. Takes a while to get rolling.

  197. cohenite

    Do you struggle with reading comprehension?

    I do but it is a struggle I intend winning.

    Sometimes I need things explained to me in small words by people smarter than me.

    Remember no one is smarter than you in everything. You will have some special insight no one else has; or maybe just a few others in which case you can start a club.

  198. DrBeauGan

    Tel, I don’t know how much you know about ODEs, so you may have thought my reply dismissive. It wasn’t.

    Compare with the following system:
    x’ = y
    y’= -x
    z’=1
    With boundary conditions x(0)=1, y(0)=0, z(0)=0. You should be able to solve this to get
    x(t)= cos(t), y(t)= sin(t), z(t)=t. In the x-y plane this is uniform speed 1 travelling around the unit circle, with uniform speed 1 up the z-axis. So it traces out a vertical helix. Throwing in a few parameters merely does some scaling and stretching of the trajectory. Displaying the trajectory on a computer screen is a trivial bit of coding.

    Because this is such a simple ODE, we can express the solution in terms of the trig functions and a polynomial. These, together with the exponential and logarithmic functions comprise the elementary functions. We say there is a closed form solution.

    This is seldom the case for even first order ODEs. The usual case is that we get three functions which are completely new and cannot be expressed in terms of the elementary functions. Such is the case with the solution to the Lorenz ODE. The three solutions, for x(t), y(t) and z(t) are smooth functions, but they have no names.

    (The same used to be true for the trig, exponential and logarithmic functions a long time ago, but we decided to name them and compute them, mostly via infinite series, and tabulate them.)

    The situation with the solutions for the Lorenz ODEs is therefore that we can tabulate them and, more usefully, display the three dimensional trajectory on the computer screen. This is what the bloke who wrote that program did. That is the solution. I could replicate that with a few days work, but won’t except for a large sum of money. What would be the point?

    My apologies to Stimpy for failing to educate him.

  199. mizaris

    Why not just lightly poach the fvcking finches and be done with it???

  200. Stimpson J. Cat

    The ridge they reckon they’ve found is under the sea not the ice.

    Thanks.
    This part confused me:

    IcePod can measure both the height, thickness and internal structure of the ice shelf, as well as the magnetic and gravity-based signals from the underlying rock.
    Next, the team modelled the shape of the sea floor beneath the ice shelf using measurements of the Earth’s gravitational field.

    I thought all Big G was theoretical because the physicists keep getting different results?

  201. Stimpson J. Cat

    My apologies to Stimpy for failing to educate him.

    And rightly so.
    You simply aren’t smart enough to teach me anything.
    I’m far too representative of sub-average intelligence.
    #winning.

  202. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3031871, posted on June 1, 2019 at 3:52 pm
    My apologies to Stimpy for failing to educate him.

    And rightly so.
    You simply aren’t smart enough to teach me anything.
    I’m far too representative of sub-average intelligence.
    #winning.

    You are right, Stimpy. I’ve been spoilt by having high IQ students, even if their school preparation was usually disgraceful. I wouldn’t know where to start with you.

  203. 2dogs

    I could replicate that with a few days work

    Several days for only a few lines of code?

  204. The moteliers in the Surat Basin had quite few VERY good years.

    I worked up and down the Surat basin from 2007 until 2017, regularly staying in motels in Chinchilla, Miles, Roma and Mitchell.
    Initially, I would never have to book early. When the construction phase was under way, the companies would bulk buy rooms months in advance, and often it was impossible to find accommodation. On a couple of occasions, I had to stay in places like Wallumbilla and Muckadilla because Roma was booked solid.
    The moteliers did well for a bit.
    When the construction phase was done, and the extraction commenced, the clientele dropped way off. A couple of small businesses went to the wall, and there were layoffs hell west and crooked. Miles was knocked about more than the other centres, and the bitterness lingers.
    The benefits to these local communities are invariably over promoted, and the locals suffer. The problem is the enormous disruption which stuffs people around. It buggers up communities, destroys trust, and wrecks families. It’s feast or famine.
    Mining does not support sustainable communities. That’s a simple statement of fact.
    We’re hearing exactly the same over promotion about the Galilee basin as we heard about the Surat basin.

  205. egg_

    the team modelled the shape of the sea floor beneath the ice shelf using measurements of the Earth’s gravitational field.

    Further to DrBG’s “abstraction” – electronics and ensuing signals is 99% abstraction.
    Climatards’ data should always be called upon for its margin of error.
    The MOE in a lot of biological metrology is woeful IME.

  206. Infidel Tiger

    Mining does not support sustainable communities

    Clubhouse leader for dumbest comment of 2019

  207. DrBeauGan

    Tel, it wouldn’t take you long to get a numerical process for getting a solution if you wanted to see the numbers.

    Write the system as
    x’ x
    y’ = A y
    z’ z

    Where A is a 3×3 matrix. Then exponentiate the matrix A by writing
    I + tA + t^2A^2/2 + … t^n A^n/ n! + … Where I is the identity matrix. This gives an infinite series for each function. Practice doing it in two dimensions for x’=y, y’= -x. Find the matrix and go for four or five terms in the series. Best of luck with the original equations, but mathematica, matlab or Maxima will make it fairly easy.

  208. Strange people.

    No – people who resent being lied to by blow-ins and stuffed around.
    Most people are like that.

  209. Johno

    And Freo beat the Pies.

  210. DrBeauGan

    2dogs
    #3031873, posted on June 1, 2019 at 4:04 pm
    I could replicate that with a few days work

    Several days for only a few lines of code?

    Yeah, I thought about it and showed how to do it in my last post. Doing it from first principles is a few hours. The hard part is working out what the lines of code should be. I’d do it in MATLAB for preference, but copying it off someone else is certainly quicker.

    I gather that’s how most programmers do it these days.

  211. Bruce of Newcastle

    I worked up and down the Surat basin from 2007 until 2017, regularly staying in motels in Chinchilla, Miles, Roma and Mitchell.

    people who resent being lied to by blow-ins and stuffed around.

    Consecutive comments…

  212. Pedro the Ignorant

    Mining does not support sustainable communities. That’s a simple statement of fact.

    Correct. Mining is, and always has been, cyclical in nature.

    Anybody who makes long term business plans based on others digging stuff out of the ground and selling it somewhere for a profit is a deluded fool.

    Get it right and make a pile, get it wrong and expect the losses.

  213. A glimpse into the dystopia that surrounds American schools.

    The US gun lobby is out of control –

    Mr Jurkschat said more than 40 offices declined to participate, and some managers feared retaliation from pro-gun lobby groups.

  214. BrettW

    I must have missed the sentencing earlier in the week but according to Courier Mail today Dave Hanna ex CFMEU boss Qld (of Mirvac home renos and destroying documents required by TURC fame) has been sentenced to 6 years for rape. He played the “gentleman” to escort a drunk female home and then took advantage of her. Even videoed and took pics of her which the police found on his phone. It is not often a rapist is so considerate towards those whose job it was to investigate the crime.

    Good riddance.

    Australia by voting Sco Mo back in saved the country from the thugs of the CFMMEU being given free rein to extort, intimidate and bully hardworking Australians just trying to make a living.

    Now that the AG is also the Industrial Relations Minister hopefully more action will be taken against the grubs.

  215. rickw

    The benefits to these local communities are invariably over promoted, and the locals suffer. The problem is the enormous disruption which stuffs people around. It buggers up communities, destroys trust, and wrecks families. It’s feast or famine.

    All famine is the best.

    No feasting under any circumstances.

  216. BrettW

    Seems Dave Hanna ex CFMEU boss Qld got 6 years for his rape offence. Very kind of him to record evidence of his offending on his phone as I am sure the police and jury found it very helpful.

  217. Anyone likening the Surat Basin with the Galilee Basin is either clueless or deceitful.
    Anyone believing small towns welcome mining or any resource extraction, coz jobs & prosperity, knows nothing of small towns.
    Anyone believing small town motels who rent rooms to resource companies are deserving of being sneered at few years later, needs a kick in the private parts, by a Rugby League placekicker.

  218. Ragu

    This is from the ABC from yonks ago

    While the national average smoking rate has dramatically dropped in the past four decades with 14 per cent of Australian adults smoking daily, some suburbs were struggling to kick the habit.

    As our Seer and Doomlord has pointed out previously, and now the national broadcaster is belatedly picking up on. Smoking rates are increasing despite the Commo green and Dyin Bryan pictures.

  219. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Seems Dave Hanna ex CFMEU boss Qld got 6 years for his rape offence.

    Does that mean he won’t be running for the Senate, after all?

  220. rickw

    “We kind of said to ourselves, ‘What if a kid was running this thing? What if a kid was up there telling us how to survive?'” Mr Jurkschat said.

    Their only angle is children, they don’t have a real argument.

    In a society that has always been heavily armed, suddenly guns are the problem.

  221. Ragu

    This is from the ABC almost an eon ago

    While the national average smoking rate has dramatically dropped in the past four decades with 14 per cent of Australian adults smoking daily, some suburbs were struggling to kick the habit.

    As our Seer and Doomlord has been saying, and which the national broadcaster is belatedly picking up on. Smoking rates have increased despite the Commo green and Dyin Bryan pictures

  222. Bruce of Newcastle

    The cartel that is Big Pharma.

    SJW rubbish.

    The reason why I say that article is rubbish, Mitch, is that it makes absolutely no mention of regulatory costs, eg in permitting, and it makes no mention of insurance and medical liability costs, which must be stratospheric in the US.

    Anyway pharmacy drugs are going to rise in cost in the US because of this:

    US Is Dependent On China For Almost 80% Of Its Medicine (31 May)

    I suspect this is a great chance for the Indians to step up, if they can police their industry and prevent shonks. A few adulteration cases and it’d be byebyes for Indian generics.

  223. “We kind of said to ourselves, ‘What if a kid was running this thing? What if a kid was up there telling us how to survive?’” Mr Jurkschat said.

    Yep, they’re running on emotion.
    Advertising spruikers.
    Mind you, look who they’re selling to. Schoolteachers.
    A demographic very susceptible to emotion over reason.

  224. Ragu

    Apologies. Double posted because i wasn’t sure if askimet had banned me.

  225. Mitch M.

    The reason why I say that article is rubbish, Mitch, is that it makes absolutely no mention of regulatory costs, eg in permitting, and it makes no mention of insurance and medical liability costs, which must be stratospheric in the US.

    Those have remained largely unaltered. They recently spiked the price of insulin. No regulatory changes there just an easy way to increase profits. If anything production in China minimizes costs that’s why they are shifting production there.

  226. Tel

    https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/malaysian-pm-declares-no-evidence-russia-shot-down-mh17/news-story/7cb88ca51f21007b625d1603a4d183bf

    Strangely News Dot Com failed to mention that the missile serial number has been checked already, Russia delivered the manufacturing paperwork and admitted to making that missile. They have shipping documents showing it was sent to Ukraine in 1986.

    However, they do accept some video from an anonymous person on the Internet as evidence, while simply throwing away the trace of the serial numbers. That’s massive bias … blatant selective reporting.

    There’s also zero excuses for not fully publishing the black box recordings, and also the flight control tower recordings so that we know why MH17 changed course away from it’s normal course and flew directly over a war zone. Malaysia is right to refuse the findings, when they have been excluded from the investigation from the start.

  227. Tel

    Best of luck with the original equations, but mathematica, matlab or Maxima will make it fairly easy.

    No it won’t … that’s what I’m trying to get through to you, but since you refuse to take my word on it at face value the only possible way to explain it is if you find that out yourself. I run into this quite often in technical fault finding … people already know for sure what will happen … so they never do the thing because what would be the point of testing something you are already sure about. It’s impossible to explain anything from there … only keep encouraging them to give it a try.

    Yogi Berra explained it by saying you can observe a lot just by looking.

  228. Notafan

    You are right Sato.

    What small towns really want is boat herd plantations social justice warrior jobs that go with them.

  229. Notafan

    No makes anyone live in ‘small towns’.

    Sound like a bunch of whinging losers, especially the ones in Queensland.

    We should never have had gold rushes in Australia oh the humanity!

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