Those laws don’t apply to us. We’re special.

It is both sad and amusing to watch the Australian media industry have a synchronized brain explosion over the recent “media raids”.  The most pathetic and depressing part of this matter is how the industry has claimed for itself some sort of special talisman they can wave about saying these laws should not apply to them because they are “journalists”.

Since when does “press freedom” take on a super-status above just good old and plain “freedom”.

The best bit TAFKAS has heard thus far is the call for having a statutory “journalist-informant privilege” along the lines of lawyer-client privilege, doctor-patient privilege or priest-confessor privilege. As if these journalists ever respected anyone else’s privilege.

The reality and sadness is that the “raids” of last week were done legally. The more relevant question is whether the laws allowing such raids should exist. And until these narcissistic, petulant and puerile media primadonnas express that same concern with the oppression of the freedom of others (who aren’t “journalist), as is currently applied through the Human Rights Commission, then shut up and sit down.  Perhaps you might also reconsider you views on the existence and application of Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act.

Perhaps also have something constructive to say when very senior public servants, such as former Chairmen of the Australian Human Rights Commission say things like:

Sadly you can say what you like around the kitchen table at home.

There should be no doubt that freedom of speech and freedom of expression is under threat in this country. It has always been thus. However, these media fools would have greater credibility and moral authority if they were so vocal and excited when the freedoms of others are threatened and infringed. And particularly when it is freedoms of those not in their special “journalist” tribe.

Oh and by the way.  Another way to have an out of control government department using its legal powers to seek court orders to enter and search media premises is to have much smaller government departments and smaller government in general so they don’t have the time, resources or powers to engage in such conduct.  As Grover Norquist has suggested:

I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.

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31 Responses to Those laws don’t apply to us. We’re special.

  1. areff

    How do you suggest the Fourth Estate isn’t special! When it gets the urge to make up tall tales about the RAN torturing illegal immigrants on the high seas, nothing should be allowed to interfere with that noble endeavour.

  2. Tim Neilson

    Quick survey -which of the following most nearly describes your reaction to the ABC raids:
    1. It was an outrage – freedom of the press is sacrosanct.
    2. I understand the national security implications, buty I’m concerned about the free speech implications of the raid.
    3. Ambivalent/don’t know/don’t care.
    4. Journalists aren’t above the law – other people get raided so the mere fact ‘journalists’ got raided isn’t in itself evidence of wrongdoing.
    5. I was disappointed at the lack of batons and tear gas.

  3. Roger

    Since when does “press freedom” take on a super-status above just good old and plain “freedom”.

    Since journalism became a bastion of the Left.

  4. stackja

    Did the ABC make up a story about SAS?

  5. Confused Old Misfit

    5. I was disappointed at the lack of batons and tear gas.

  6. Roger

    I note the ALP has suddenly discovered press freedom!

    Not long ago Albo & Dreyfus were proposing a state regulator that could censor and punish journalists and media outlets.

    They doth protest too much, methinks.

  7. stackja

    Roger
    #3040032, posted on June 11, 2019 at 10:08 am

    ALP wants the press free to get up.

  8. Tim Neilson

    I note the ALP has suddenly discovered press freedom!

    Not long ago Albo & Dreyfus were proposing a state regulator that could censor and punish journalists and media outlets.

    They doth protest too much, methinks.

    No contradiction. The ‘journalists’ who will be protected and the journalists who will be censored and punished are totally different people.

  9. Mark

    I’ll support the ABC’s right to publish classified information as soon as they publish the details of their salaries and other payments.

  10. a happy little debunker

    Sooo, no arrests or detention – just the ignomy of having your dirty linen perused by the police.

    Oh the indignity!

    Meanwhile John Saffron and the Paxton family should be quietly giggling.

  11. Roger

    No contradiction. The ‘journalists’ who will be protected and the journalists who will be censored and punished are totally different people.

    Hence the Shakespeare quote.

  12. Bruce in WA

    4. Journalists aren’t above the law – other people get raided so the mere fact ‘journalists’ got raided isn’t in itself evidence of wrongdoing.

    Although I must admit a strong “vibe” for 5.

  13. jupes

    How do you suggest the Fourth Estate isn’t special!

    Riccardo Bosi suggested just such a thing to the Outsiders last Sunday.

    Shut Rita Panahi up for a few seconds that’s for sure.

  14. jupes

    The question that no one seems to be asking about these raids is why now? Why didn’t they do it two years ago when the crime was committed?

  15. thefrollickingmole

    Either free speech & protections for everyone or no-one.

    No compromise, no surrender.

    Either you are a statist toad swallowing darkness dweller or you are on the side of rightness and cleanliness.

    I become more Gadsden flag every day.

  16. duncanm

    Mark
    #3040061, posted on June 11, 2019 at 10:49 am
    I’ll support the ABC’s right to publish classified information as soon as they publish the details of their salaries and other payments.

    Exactly… remember the tears and finger pointing when these were leaked.

    ABC managing director Mark Scott has apologised to staff for a massive security breach that has led to the salaries of over one hundred employees being released to the media. The ABC will launch an investigation into the leak.

  17. Percy Popinjay

    a massive security breach that has led to the salaries of over one hundred employees being released to the media

    It was actually a hapless ALPBC worker drone who “leaked” the figures.

  18. Suburban Boy

    In the absence of a more robust option:

    5. I was disappointed at the lack of batons and tear gas.

  19. NuThink

    Recall the NT spit mask controversy on ABC program which resulted in a pop up RC instigated by that great Waffler of the People.
    A few days ago I watched a British Cop program where a man had abused the cops and spat on them, and continued even after being warned that a spit mask would be used.

    It was mentioned in that program that Human Rights people claim the spit mask is degrading (as well as a few other things I don’t recall) and should not be used.
    A cop replied that it is also degrading to be spat on. Also he said the cop has the other worry that he will catch something nasty, and even pass it onto family and kids.
    That particular constabulary now issues all their cops with spit masks. Apparently 50% of the constabularies issue spit masks.

    Note: Our ABC made the spit mask look like a non see through veil, as the lighting and camera angle was such that it looked opaque and not able to see through. That was not honest of the bleating ABC.

    So I assume it is also degrading to wear a motorcycle helmet.

  20. Shy Ted

    I can imagine the AFP wanting to go through Anneka Smehurst’ undies drawer but would they have the nerve to go through Frank Elly or Jon Faine’?

  21. Old Lefty

    This is, if course, the same ABC that wants to criminalise the sacrament of confession. But it also insists on protecting the identities of the p3derast mates of its pin-up pervert Richard Neville, and of the creeps who frequented the home of its other pin-up Marxist pervert Dorothy Hewitt along with its very own BobEllis

  22. calli

    5. I was disappointed at the lack of batons and tear gas.

    My colleague Rambler and I can offer an excellent deal on tumbrills.

    Mate’s rates.

  23. Squirrel

    I am deeply concerned about the oppressive – would it be going too far to call them Stalinist? – laws which stop the Australian media from reporting and commenting on the fact that much of what now passes for the “Australian economy” is a continental-scale Ponzi Scheme kept afloat by debt and mass immigration.

    If only those evil people in the Canberra Bubble would change the rules, I know that our fearless friends in the media would just love to tell the Australian people the truth about this matter which is of the highest public interest……..

  24. Crossie

    However, these media fools would have greater credibility and moral authority if they were so vocal and excited when the freedoms of others are threatened and infringed. And particularly when it is freedoms of those not in their special “journalist” tribe.

    What’s more, there was a lot of whining about whistleblowers which our learned betters in the media have begun using in place of leakers. Leakers may be whistleblowers but usually are not, most of the time leakers are malicious agents just out to damage an opponent or even all of us.

  25. Crossie

    es
    #3040080, posted on June 11, 2019 at 11:19 am
    The question that no one seems to be asking about these raids is why now? Why didn’t they do it two years ago when the crime was committed?

    I’ll give you one guess – Malcolm Turnbull, the patron saint of all leakers.

  26. jupes

    I’ll give you one guess – Malcolm Turnbull, the patron saint of all leakers.

    That doesn’t make sense Crossie. Two years ago the ABC claimed someone leaked classified military information to the ABC and they ran hard on it both on the tele and online.

    Only now is it being investigated. Why?

  27. Crossie

    That doesn’t make sense Crossie. Two years ago the ABC claimed someone leaked classified military information to the ABC and they ran hard on it both on the tele and online.

    Only now is it being investigated. Why?

    Because Malcolm didn’t want to rough up his friends at the ABC, I don’t think he gave a damn about the military.

  28. Robbo

    The media are peddling fake news by screaming that the investigation is an attack on freedom of speech or freedom of the media. That is absolute and utter nonsense. The investigation is about trying to establish who in the public service has breached their oath and leaked highly sensitive secret information to the media. It is those leakers who have committed a crime, and threatened our relationships with a wide number of foreign countries, that are the targets. This is an investigation that only a short time ago was demanded by that Labor Party frontbencher star Mark Dreyfus but now that it has commenced those Labor hypocrites are criticising it as an attack on the media. What a complete and total load of tosh.

  29. Chris M

    Malcolm Turnbull, the patron saint of all leakers.

    Haha, he’s up day and night leaking.

    With his extreme bitterness, anger and jealousy issues he’ll come down with some serious sickness soon, mark my words.

  30. NuThink

    jupes
    #3040080, posted on June 11, 2019 at 11:19 am
    The question that no one seems to be asking about these raids is why now? Why didn’t they do it two years ago when the crime was committed?

    There has been a change of government.

    Also, how long it it take the HRC to inform the QUT students that they were being investigated?

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