Tuesday Forum: June 11, 2019

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  1. Nick

    The young in HK are showing our climate protesting sops what a real issue and a real protest is.

  2. egg_

    Serious question: what have they contributed?

    Wealth redistribution?

  3. Armadillo

    Fire up the rodent crushing power of the Model A deathstar.

    Meh.

  4. cohenite

    Zyconoclast

    #3041153, posted on June 12, 2019 at 7:36 pm

    Italy sacks Intel chiefs over Mifsud – Brennan Russia Hoax fiasco

    ROME, ITALY: The Prime Minister of Italy has fired two of the countries most powerful intelligence chiefs in a major shake-up. It was directly attributed to their participation with John Brennan and the CIA in using Joseph Mifsud to set up George Papadopoulos as a pretext for launching the great Russia Hoax of 2016.

    Wow.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    Good luck, KD. There are worse things in life than getting a doctor’s hand in a rubber glove up your clacker. Sounds like a life-saver.

    Wait.
    WAIT!
    Do all doctors use rubber gloves?
    Because …
    Never mind.

  6. Arky

    I’d prefer arse cancer.
    I’m not going back to those proctologist bastards.
    “We couldn’t find any problem, but you seemed a bit tense, so we gave you a good stretching out”.

  7. Leigh Lowe

    Most country Victorian roads are shot to shit through years of use, particularly by wheat trucks. They have crumbled edges, shoddily repaired and more often than not require you to slow down and put two wheels in the dirt when someone else comes the other way.

    What is really, really bad in that situation is when Skippy jumps out in front.
    Then zig-zags.
    Then doubles back.
    You really can’t jump on the anchors with the rights on bitumen and the lefts in loose gravel.
    Gently squeeze and hope you miss.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fire up the rodent crushing power of the Model A deathstar.

    Armadillo Roadkill Facebook page. The cans are fun. Not over 20% hair, gravel and foreign matter!

  9. Leigh Lowe

    I’d prefer arse cancer.
    I’m not going back to those proctologist bastards.
    “We couldn’t find any problem, but you seemed a bit tense, so we gave you a good stretching out”.

    If he dims the lights and starts playing Michael Buble music, it is not medical treatment.

  10. Armadillo

    Arky, when your family builds a road in Hong Kong and it bears your name, you can tell me about it.

    Mrs A thinks you are hilarious.

  11. Armadillo

    And a bridge in Singapore. Get back to me when the Model A gets out of the garage.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’d prefer arse cancer.

    It is a thing. One guess who tends to get it. Oops, you’re wrong!
    I was sad about Farrah Fawcett.

  13. Nick

    Arky, when your family builds a road in Hong Kong and it bears your name, you can tell me about it.

    Ashley rd ? It’s arsey lay doe in Cantonese.

  14. Arky

    Many roads and streets named after my family in Singapore.
    Now hold still while I run you down, you funny little shelled possum.

  15. Armadillo

    Ashley rd ?

    Pfftt…the Ashelys were scum and people of ill repute.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    Many roads and streets named after my family in Singapore.

    I have a very famous one in Scotland.
    It’s in a song.
    The Lowe Road.
    True story.

  17. Leigh Lowe

    I’d prefer arse cancer.

    I reckon if you asked people with arse cancer, they may politely disagree.

  18. Seco

    The Goodes saga continues, we’ll be hounded to our graves.

    AFL NEWS
    Top indigenous figure Mick Gooda slams Gill McLachlan’s leadership during Adam Goodes racism row
    Just days after the AFL issued an apology to Swans legend Adam Goodes, a senior indigenous leader says that’s not enough — and “heads should roll” over the league’s failure to act sooner.

    A senior indigenous leader says Gillon McLachlan should be removed as AFL boss because of his failings in the Adam Goodes racism row.

    Mick Gooda, who led an AFL contingent invited to address the United Nations Human Rights Council in 2011, said last week’s belated apology to the dual Brownlow medallist “isn’t enough”.

    “I had a friend on the AFL commission who told me at the time that people were blaming Adam for it — that he had brought it on himself,” Gooda told the Herald Sun.

    “They were saying exactly what the rednecks were saying.

    “The AFL lost me.”

    The retired Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner said the AFL had “lost its way” in fighting racism after the exit of chief executive Andrew Demetriou.

    A social media post from Gooda on Saturday declaring “heads should roll and give someone who cares a go” was liked and retweeted by Adelaide Crows champion Andrew McLeod.

    “Where has Gillon McLachlan been here? What, put a bloody apology in an annual report six months later? That’s how important they thought it was,” Gooda said.

    “I’m as angry today as I was then.

    “I just don’t think an apology is enough. If they want to get back to where they were, just scrub the leadership and start again.

    “They all just sat back and let it happen.”

    Gooda, who led the Royal Commission into the protection and detention of children in the Northern Territory, said the league commission and its senior executive failed the leadership test when Goodes was booed out of the game in 2015.

    “They could have done something really profound, but they didn’t do anything,” Gooda said.

    “They were like rabbits in the headlights.

    “They didn’t know how to deal with it. They never called everyone together to say, ‘Well what do we do here?’

    “That’s what they were thinking at the time — that he brought it on himself.

    “(Former AFL commission chairman) Mike Fitzpatrick was a bloody Rhodes Scholar, that tells you something.

    “It’s a slippery slide, we’re on it and I don’t see any end to it, really.”

    Asked to describe McLachlan’s performance during the Goodes crisis, Gooda said: “Piss weak, to be quite honest.

    “My expectation was high — (thinking) ‘they’re going to do something, they’re going to do something’ — but, nup, nothing.”

    Gooda said Demetriou had shown leadership when he stood alongside Goodes at a press conference in May 2013, the morning after he was called an “ape” by a 13-year-old girl during game at the MCG.

    “When you are the subject of racism and you see someone from the institution taking a stand, it is so great,” he said. “It inspires you.

    “They set that standard and then they didn’t meet it (in 2015). That’s so disappointing.

    “The champion couldn’t even do his final lap of honour at the Grand Final.

    “In 2001, Andrew McLeod, (league staffer) Jason Mifsud and I went to the UN in Geneva and presented for the AFL, because I actually believed in them at that time.

    “Back then they actually were leading the world on fighting racism. People like Mick Malthouse, Kevin Sheedy and Terry Wallace had come out and said, ‘We won’t tolerate it in our teams’.

    “We did lead the world, and that’s what we said that day at the UN, but then we lost our way.

    “When they asked me to do it I said, ‘Of course I will’, but now here we are.”

    The Herald Sun has sought comment from the AFL.

  19. Seco

    The AFL media is determined to rid the game of fans.

  20. Armadillo

    The Scots were pretty heavily involved in the founding of Hong Kong. Mainly trading.

  21. Infidel Tiger

    The Scots were great people once.

  22. Armadillo

    Let’s face it, the Chinese weren’t exactly “up to it” at the time.

  23. Bruce of Newcastle

    I have a very famous one in Scotland.

    My inherited middle name, which is that of a certain town in Scotland, is at least a thousand years old on my researching. A thousand years ago one of my ancestors was a big guy in a Scottish fishing village. Some people in my family do the family tree thing and once I ended up at a family BBQ on Vancouver Island with a whole bunch of distant relos whose surname is my middle name. It was fun.

  24. DrBeauGan

    Infidel Tiger
    #3041185, posted on June 12, 2019 at 8:23 pm
    The Scots were great people once.

    So were the Australians.

  25. BrettW

    Everybody knows armadillos are not natives of Scotland.

  26. Old School Conservative

    This bloke empties a resort pool.

  27. Armadillo

    The Chinese made some good pottery and foot soldiers.

  28. jupes

    Top indigenous figure Mick Gooda slams Gill McLachlan’s leadership during Adam Goodes racism row

    The Abo industry will pile on now. Suck it up AFL.

    Get woke. Go broke.

  29. Armadillo

    There are a billion of these fuckers. Eating whatever they can find.

  30. Infidel Tiger

    Sport has gone bananas.

    Corporatism has destroyed it.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    There are a billion of these fuckers. Eating whatever they can find.

    Which is getting harder to find.

    “Biggest Animal Disease Outbreak Ever” Has Already Killed Millions…And There’s “No Way To Stop It” (11 Jun)

    We have never seen an animal disease outbreak like this before, and it is rapidly getting worse. African Swine Fever, also referred to as “pig Ebola”, has already wiped out millions upon millions of pigs and it continues to spread to even more countries.

    There is no vaccine and there is no cure, and so essentially we don’t have any way to stop this disease. At this point, the only solution is to kill all the pigs wherever the virus is found and desperately hope that it doesn’t spread anywhere else. But that approach clearly hasn’t been working, and according to a recent Fox News report this epidemic has now become the “biggest animal disease outbreak we’ve ever had on the planet”

    Let that sink in for a moment. 210 million pigs will be lost in China alone in 2019, and when you throw in the rest of the world we are talking about cataclysmic losses already and the outbreak is still getting worse.

    One of the primary reasons why this virus is so fearsome is because it survives just about anywhere and it is incredibly hard to kill…

    The germ is hardy, capable of remaining active in water for a month, in meat and blood at room temperature for several months and for six years in cold, dark conditions. It’s resistant to temperature extremes, and can survive a day in vinegar-strength acids.

    Up to 90 percent of the pigs that catch the virus end up dead

    Stock up on bacon and hope it doesn’t jump species.

  32. Armadillo

    Cats don’t get economics. Trump is right.

    Whack a tarrif on Mexico, whack an embargo on Iran, threaten a trade war with the EU.

    People need to eat. People elect politicians.

  33. C.L.

    The AFL media is determined to rid the game of fans.

    That’s actually true.
    It is like Mrs Rogers’ idea of a perfect hospital.

  34. Armadillo

    Unless you can eat, you revolt.

  35. Armadillo

    Everyone has a threshold.

  36. Leigh Lowe

    AFL NEWS
    Top indigenous figure Mick Gooda slams Gill McLachlan’s leadership during Adam Goodes racism row
    Just days after the AFL issued an apology to Swans legend Adam Goodes, a senior indigenous leader says that’s not enough — and “heads should roll” over the league’s failure to act sooner.

    A senior indigenous leader says Gillon McLachlan should be removed as AFL boss because of his failings in the Adam Goodes racism row.

    Mick Gooda, who led an AFL contingent invited to address the United Nations Human Rights Council in 2011, said last week’s belated apology to the dual Brownlow medallist “isn’t enough”.

    Seco, this is top stuff.
    No doubt the AFL paid for Gooda to go to the UN in the hope that a great alliance could be forged.
    The AFL have bowed down before the smouldering gumleaves for years, and now the Indigenes are biting the hand that feeds.
    The deeper they bow, the higher the demands.
    FMD, I hadn’t seen it at the time, but apparently the Richmond-Essendon dreamtime game is now preceded by some sort of Adam Goodes spear dance/haka kind of thing.

  37. Bruce in WA

    I’m not going back to those proctologist bastards.

    Nor me. Last time I went for a check-up, he bent me over, put his left hand on my shoulder and his right hand up my …

    Wait a sec. It was his right hand on my shoulder and his left hand up my …

    Just one bloody minute!! He had both hands on my shoulders!

  38. Pedro the Ignorant

    Hohohoho.

    Many angry Pakis in Pommyland watching their bowlers getting whacked all over the ground by openers Finch and Warner.

    Irritating honking horns, much eye rolling and spittle flecked shouting from the 90% tinted spectators.

    Warms the cockles of my heart.

  39. Steve trickler

    I’d like to think the RAAF would allow the pilots to perform these maneuvers in the FA-18.

    I’ve yet to see it though.



    Audio Visual is top notch.

  40. Infidel Tiger

    There is a major agricultural crisis brewing.

    China’s pigs.

    Massive cattle deaths from floods in US and Australia.

    Don’t know if you’ve been to a supermarket lately but i almost had to buy chicken the price of beef and lamb was so high.

    Food security should be our number one priority.

  41. Infidel Tiger

    Let that sink in for a moment. 210 million pigs will be lost in China alone in 2019, and when you throw in the rest of the world we are talking about cataclysmic losses already and the outbreak is still getting worse.

    One of the primary reasons why this virus is so fearsome is because it survives just about anywhere and it is incredibly hard to kill…

    The germ is hardy, capable of remaining active in water for a month, in meat and blood at room temperature for several months and for six years in cold, dark conditions. It’s resistant to temperature extremes, and can survive a day in vinegar-strength acids.

    Up to 90 percent of the pigs that catch the virus end up dead

    All travel to and from China must be banned.

    All Chinese nationals locked up.

    This is basic stuff.

  42. twostix

    Very interesting article from ‘The Port’ early this evening:

    Israel Folau, religious freedom and the implications for us all

    The photos of the pro-banners are the perfect specimens, a soy poisoned poof and a degenerate old half mong northcoast hippy boomer.

  43. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3041185, posted on June 12, 2019 at 8:23 pm

    The Scots were great people once.

    Test of Celtic madness.
    Everytime I meet a Celt I deliberately blindside them by deliberately confusing their accent.
    If I meet a Welshman I’ll ask him which part of Scotland he is from etc etc.
    The Welsh and the Irish laugh.
    The Scots anger up.
    They are a bunch of ginger, freckled, humourless twats.

  44. C.L.

    Mick Gooda, who led an AFL contingent invited to address the United Nations Human Rights Council in 2011, said last week’s belated apology to the dual Brownlow medallist “isn’t enough”.

    Assuming Goodna doesn’t want somebody put to death, I take it he’s referring to cash.

  45. Arky

    They are a bunch of ginger, freckled, humourless twats.

    ..
    Yes. But potentially a good bacon substitute once all the pigs are dead.

  46. Arky

    As long as we don’t make the same mistake we did with the pigs.
    Absolutely no feeding the Scots with the offal from other Scots.

  47. Armadillo

    No doubt the AFL paid for Gooda to go to the UN in the hope that a great alliance could be forged.

    I don’t suppose anyone has worked out that these fuckers are taking the piss as yet? They must be.

    The pennies are dropping with the cricket. And yet, we have grown men adoring AFL “stars” and ARL “stars”. Good Lordy. I wouldn’t want a single one of these people to count as a friend.

    Check the record. Most of them are total arsehats.

  48. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Scots anger up.
    They are a bunch of ginger, freckled, humourless twats.

    Fact check: true.
    Scotland condemns Ireland as feud over Atlantic rock erupts – Sturgeon hints at arrests (11 Jun)
    Yep, the Scots want to arrest Irish fishermen for fishing near a rock owned by England.

  49. Armadillo

    The hilarious thing is that you are paying their bills.

  50. Seco

    No doubt the AFL paid for Gooda to go to the UN in the hope that a great alliance could be forged.
    The AFL have bowed down before the smouldering gumleaves for years, and now the Indigenes are biting the hand that feeds.
    The deeper they bow, the higher the demands.
    FMD, I hadn’t seen it at the time, but apparently the Richmond-Essendon dreamtime game is now preceded by some sort of Adam Goodes spear dance/haka kind of thing.

    This is “Reconciliation” in a nutshell. Nothing will do, as you said LL, the demands just go up with every concession. When will our betters wake up?

  51. Leigh Lowe

    Bwah, ha, ha, ha.
    Setka is being pushed under a bus by the ACTU.
    The Indigenes are kicking the shit out of the AFL.
    I am starting to think Allah is real.

  52. JC

    You know, at its worst it’s a canute of a country.

    Teo faces threat of disciplinary action
    The brain surgeon dramatic claim he may be forced out of medicine comes as he faces several complaints and possible disciplinary action.

  53. Infidel Tiger

    Teo is an odd bod, but he did give a good friend of mine 10 extra years of life.

    We need crazies.

  54. Armadillo

    Buy that Guernsey, pay that subscription. You can be part of it. LOL.

  55. mh

    Don’t want to scroll back, I just hope we are all getting behind Aussie John Setka.

  56. Top Ender

    Speaking of nice aircraft, today I was in the NT Aviation Museum.

    I went over, and gave the B-52 a nice pat.

    Then I went and did another to the F-111.

    Those were not everyday experiences.

    That is all.

  57. Infidel Tiger

    Mike Nathan quits as WA oppo leader.

  58. egg_

    If he dims the lights and starts playing Michael Buble music, it is not medical treatment.

    Mine played Barry Manilow.

  59. JC

    I knew someone too, who went to Teo. Two told him he couldn’t do anything as it was too problematic. He was gonsky after 6 months.

  60. Armadillo

    The biggest supporters of “the game” probably haven’t ever played it.

    Walk into any pub and look at the freaks wearing a football Guernsey, shouting at a television.

  61. Farmer Gez

    Don’t know if you’ve been to a supermarket lately but i almost had to buy chicken the price of beef and lamb was so high.

    Food security should be our number one priority.

    About time.
    We artisan meat producers have delicious handcrafted protein to delight the discerning diner.
    Our lamb chop samplers will be open for bidding at 6.50pm EST.
    Don’t miss out!

  62. jupes

    Teo is an odd bod, but he did give a good friend of mine 10 extra years of life.

    Fixed up my mates wife too. He ended up a few grand out of pocket but couldn’t care less.

  63. egg_

    The biggest supporters of “the game” probably haven’t ever played it.

    +1

    Wannabes.

  64. jupes

    Van Badham with Aussie John

    Comedy gold!

  65. Seco

    Calling Tim Flannery, calling Tim Flannery.

    In 2008, Flannery said: “The water problem is so severe for Adelaide that it may run out of water by early 2009.”

    From the Adelaide Advertiser today.

    SA NEWS
    Adelaide’s wettest day in two years as heavy downpour hits the state
    Adelaide has had its wettest day in two years after a heavy downpour overnight.

  66. Leigh Lowe

    Someone posted here the other day about Sam Pang saying something horridly non-PC on “Have You Been Paying Attention?”

  67. Leigh Lowe

    Can anyone remember?

  68. Steve trickler

    How’d the wankers from Big Tech view this film?

    Old film of a public event in Nijmegen, The Netherlands in September 1917



  69. egg_

    Van Badham with Aussie John

    Sh1t magnets?

  70. cohenite

    Sanjeev gupta on pml vomiting pure crap about ruinables which are the path to the future and we have endless amounts of the fucking stuff. Murray busy licking up this garbage.

  71. Seco

    Labor women love being belted and raped by Labor men.

  72. Top Ender

    Cable car company lodges formal application for divisive kunanyi/Mount Wellington project

    Down in Hobart recently, I wrote a letter to The Mercury asking why the newly-instituted “aboriginal place names” in Tasmania have no capital letter. Especially as the local chaps 200 years ago didn’t write.

    They didn’t publish it.

  73. Bruce of Newcastle

    If any aboriginals lived on Mt Wellington they froze their nuts off a long time ago.

  74. JC

    Someone should ask the Guptameister to get the subsidy wagon.

  75. JC

    Labor women love being belted and raped by Labor men.

    All left wing females love that shit.

  76. Zyconoclast

    BRUSSELS is drawing up plans to use technology on the Irish border — despite rubbishing the idea when put forward by Brexiteers.

    Eurocrats will deploy “IT systems” to keep trade flowing between Ireland and the EU via Britain if there’s a No Deal Brexit.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/9266026/brexit-irish-border-technology-brussels/

  77. JC

    Bruce

    Language please. It’s not that sort of blog.

  78. jupes

    Warner!

    Welcome back son.

  79. Leigh Lowe

    Teo is an odd bod, but he did give a good friend of mine 10 extra years of life.

    We need crazies.

    Jeez, to cut someone open and stick your hands in their guts or their head you need to be a bit unusual.
    It is about the most intimate experience ever, even if you are comatose.
    I had a serious slice up a few years back and the surgeon was a blunt Charlie Teo type.
    I was immediately reassured.
    When my guts is splayed open and things go wrong, I want a decisive type running the show, not a committee member.

  80. Armadillo

    If any aboriginals lived on Mt Wellington they froze their nuts off a long time ago.

    Absolutely. The Kings with no clothes.

    Anyone only needs to read a diary of early explorers to understand, especially in NSW.

  81. Pedro the Ignorant

    Warner obviously got his arse kicked well and truly after his miserable stat stacking performance against the IT/7-11 servo chaps the other day.

    It is a team game you mong.

  82. Pedro the Ignorant

    Michael Clarke is a snivelling bum sniffing tool.

    STFU.

  83. Armadillo

    “The Kings with No Clothes” would be a fitting title for a book.

  84. John Constantine

    Interesting change in a niche red meat this week.

    Ram meat has always been the most heavily discounted mutton, buy the crossbred flock ram for eight hundy at one and a half years old and sell it at five and a half years old for forty bucks.

    This week heavy old ram mutton hit two hundred bucks and the meat buyers were fighting to buy aged ram mutton.

    Story is that instead of pet food it is going to China to fill in for the dead pigs.

    Comrades.

  85. Ubique

    Terrorist suspects shot by police.

    The bothers had converted to Islam while in a NSW gaol. And I was convinced they’d be Presbyterians.

  86. Armadillo

    Someone should trademark it.

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    Well.

    Get a finger up your arse for a while, and evidently everything turns to shit.

    Not only hasn’t that cheating, shit-bearded mong has his legs broken for him yet, he’s still in the team, made a hundred and then got dropped on 104.

    And – AND – there is a Marsh in the side. This is a parlous state of affairs indeed.

    The surgeon reminded me of a slightly less hard-edged Penny Wong.

  88. Armadillo

    Or at the very least, copyright it.

  89. Leigh Lowe

    Pedro the Ignorant

    #3041255, posted on June 12, 2019 at 10:08 pm

    Michael Clarke is a snivelling bum sniffing tool.

    An Australian captain should never ever retrieve an engagement ring from a toilet bowl.
    Unseemly.

  90. Knuckle Dragger

    Snivelling cock booed on his way off the field. Things returning to normal.

    Khawaja in at 6. Hopefully his last Australian innings.

  91. Pedro the Ignorant

    When does the AFL and the abo industry form a financial partnership?

    I love my footy, but the AFL honchos are killing it with the never ending virtue signalling

    Getting out of hand.

  92. jupes

    And – AND – there is a Marsh in the side. This is a parlous state of affairs indeed.

    If it’s Marsh vs the Khawaja for a spot in the side I say “go Sean!”.

  93. Armadillo

    I’m assuming something happened in the cricket? English please.

  94. Black Ball

    Michael Clarke would do well to listen to Richie Benaud. Don’t need to speak every fucking time between balls. More is less, particularly with Pup taking the mic.

  95. cohenite

    Wallopers earning their keep for a change but the same old spiel about the RoP:

    The ABC understands two men who were shot by police in Victoria’s north-east were of interest to counterterrorism authorities.

    The men are in a serious condition in hospital after the shootings at Barnawartha North near the New South Wales border.

    It is understood when police tried to intercept the men about 3:00pm, the officers were threatened with an axe and a knife.

    Police then opened fire. It is understood the two men have links to outlaw motorcycle gangs and converted to RoP when they were serving time in a NSW prison.

    The ABC understands Victoria Police were checking on them this afternoon.

    They had been considered a low-level threat.

    It is understood there is no ongoing threat to safety.

    Police are expected to hold a media conference at the scene later tonight.

    Earlier, Victoria Police said the shootings happened when officers tried to stop a car on Old Barnawartha Road near Richardsons Bend camping ground on the Murray River.

    In a statement, police said both men sustained “serious injuries” and had been taken to hospital.

    Low level threat my arse.

  96. Black Ball

    Michael Clarke would do well to listen to Richie Benaud. Don’t need to speak every time between deliveries. More is less, particularly with Pup taking the mic.

  97. Knuckle Dragger

    There’s a surfeit of fat Pakis in the crowd.

    Must be all the kippers and blood pudding, or whatever the pasty soap-dodgers eat.

  98. Black Ball

    Is Ferken Durya playing?

  99. jupes

    Marsh has made it past 10 so I’m predicting a ton.

  100. Tel

    The Welsh and the Irish laugh.
    The Scots anger up.
    They are a bunch of ginger, freckled, humourless twats.

    You seem a little confused … getting angry and swearing a lot IS Scottish humour.

    Get them properly cranked up and it has a certain rhythm and cadence to it … quite similar to bagpipes.

  101. feelthebern

    Sam Pang made a joke about the NZ PM’s teeth.
    Verboten subject.

  102. Zyconoclast

    An Australian captain should never ever retrieve an engagement ring from a toilet bowl.
    Unseemly.

    Does it make it ok if he used a straw?

  103. feelthebern

    Australian cricket died after Steve Waugh retired.
    Became too corporate.
    Too woke.

  104. dover_beach

    If you going to ban every thing when a few abuse the system then start walking and no a an embryo is not a baby.

    The entire system of surrogacy incl. IVF is abusive. There are always surplus embryos that are kept frozen, embryos that are implantated go through a process of selection which involves the destruction of those unwanted, and so on. Lastly, right, an embryo is not a baby but a human being at an earlier stage of development, just as a baby is not an adolescent.

  105. ..once I ended up at a family BBQ on Vancouver Island with a whole bunch of distant relos whose surname is my middle name.

    How was the McDuibhishite reunion?

  106. Pedro the Ignorant

    “Fat Pakis” in the crowd?

    They are taking their fat gutted ‘keeper as a role model.

  107. Leigh Lowe

    Pedro the Ignorant

    #3041264, posted on June 12, 2019 at 10:15 pm

    When does the AFL and the abo industry form a financial partnership?

    Standby.
    The AFL will announce a Wreckin-Silly-Ashun Trust to dispense funds for worthy causes.
    The trust will be run by Worthies like Goodes, Gooda, Geoff Clarke and Nova Peris-Goonbag.
    And the money will only by more contempt.

  108. Black Ball

    Had enough of Clarke, so now on An Idiot Abroad. Most amusing.

  109. Armadillo

    Low level threat my arse.

    There were coppers swarming Tamworth over the long weekend. They seemed to be everywhere. Motorcycles, marked and unmarked cars. It wasn’t a speeding/DUI exercise. They weren’t pulling anyone over. They were looking for someone, or a group of people.

  110. feelthebern

    This Setka situation is quite the pickle for a lot of people.
    Normally if someone got out of like, VicPol could lean on them.
    Or maybe a regulatory body might have a look at your licences.
    The problem with Setka is he is at the nexus of the darkest of the dark.

  111. Zyconoclast

    Wrong colour, wrong religion?

    Women in Siberian coal town beg Trudeau to let them come to Canada as environmental refugees
    Based on Canada’s immigration rules, their chances aren’t very good

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-coal-environmental-refugees-trudeau-1.5169668

  112. Pedro the Ignorant

    Shaun Marsh holes out -again-.

    22 off 21 ain’t too shabby though.

  113. Seco

    Just on Setka, it comes across that Labor have hated this bloke for years but he was a protected species due to his and the CFMMEU’s propping up of Shorten. Now Shorten has pretty much gone they’ve gone after Setka on a technicality and the media are once again doing their bidding. Meanwhile the ordinary person on the street see straight through their bullshit.

  114. Leigh Lowe

    And … Khawaja hits up a dolly catch to his second cousin.

  115. cohenite

    Low level threat my arse.

    There were coppers swarming Tamworth over the long weekend. They seemed to be everywhere. Motorcycles, marked and unmarked cars. It wasn’t a speeding/DUI exercise. They weren’t pulling anyone over. They were looking for someone, or a group of people.

    The punters dodged a few RoP bullets/knifes.

    In victoriastan probably wouldn’t have been as lucky.

  116. egg_

    Sam Pang made a joke about the NZ PM’s teeth.

    Only the multicultis can get away with it nowadays.
    Tom Gleeson gets away with a fair bit on Aunty – claiming being a ranga is a minority (/yolk)?

  117. Knuckle Dragger

    Captain Obvious alert.

    Gooda should never, with his demonstrated bias, be given the job of co-chairing a RC where indigenous youth would largely feature.

    I have no idea who he is when he’s at home, but he would be well served to keep his whiny trap shut. Or if he’s that concerned he can spend a week or so at Tennant Creek, Ali Curung or Papunya and see just what impact his ivory-tower statements are having on the blackfellas.

  118. feelthebern

    The CFMMEU is one the most profitable unions in Oz.
    The ALP will never cut ties.

  119. egg_

    Meanwhile the ordinary person on the street see straight through their bullshit.

    When did Labya stop beating their wymminses?

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    Evidently the Paki fieldsmen have all developed cystic fibrosis.

  121. feelthebern

    Sam Pang used to be on soccer panel on Fox.
    With Santo from D-Gen & Ed somebody.
    Was one of the funniest shows ever.

  122. Pedro the Ignorant

    Shaun Marsh holes out -again-.

    Whoops. Distracted by dog.

    Idiot barking at nothing as usual.

    I should sell him to the Chinese restaurant.

    Would make a fine pile of Mongolian sizzling beef.

  123. Top Ender

    According to Sky:

    Energy Minister Angus Taylor says the government is ‘more than willing to consider’ nuclear power, if it can be proven to be economically viable.

  124. feelthebern

    Sam Pang’s finest.

  125. Infidel Tiger

    Australia cooking what should have been 350+

  126. Cactus

    Seco – “Just on Setka, it comes across that Labor have hated this bloke for years but he was a protected species due to his and the CFMMEU’s propping up of Shorten. Now Shorten has pretty much gone they’ve gone after Setka on a technicality and the media are once again doing their bidding. Meanwhile the ordinary person on the street see straight through their bullshit.”

    Is it possible this is a get square for the election? CFMEU was making candidates pledge whether they were for or against Adani.

  127. jupes

    If it’s Marsh vs the Khawaja for a spot in the side I say “go Sean!”.

    Hmmm neither covered themselves in glory.

  128. Zyconoclast

    WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is rejecting requests from U.S. embassies to fly the rainbow pride flag on embassy flagpoles during June, LGBTQ Pride Month, three American diplomats told NBC News.

    The U.S. embassies in Israel, Germany, Brazil and Latvia are among those that have requested permission from Trump’s State Department to fly the pride flag on their flagpoles and have been denied, diplomats said.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-admin-tells-u-s-embassies-they-can-t-fly-n1015236

  129. feelthebern

    This skit would not be made today.
    This was 2010.

  130. JC

    Hey Drills, whatever happened to Marcus Adonis?

  131. cohenite

    Energy Minister Angus Taylor says the government is ‘more than willing to consider’ nuclear power, if it can be proven to be economically viable.

    Depends whether costs from shovelling perpetual filth protestors out of the way, court cases run by the epa with moon-child plaintiffs and hastily erected green tape from relevant liar governments are regarded as normal economic costs.

  132. Pedro the Ignorant

    Sandgroper Coulter Nile strides to the wicket. looking confident.

    Pommy girl commenting clearly stricken with his good looks and demeanour.

    Better drop into the dressing rooms later, dearie. You never know your luck.

  133. feelthebern

    The best way to get this nuclear power plant built is to offer free electricity to anyone within a 100kms of the thing.

  134. Seco

    This was 2010.

    Ah the good old days, when you could count the number of politicians who’d vote for SSM on one hand.

  135. max

    A bloke sits in a room somewhere, perhaps Canada, not sure, and live blogs the HK protests with clips and tweets on Youtube: Link

  136. Seco

    Better drop into the dressing rooms later, dearie. You never know your luck.

    Don’t blush baby.

  137. feelthebern

    Roger Stone is breaking his gag order on Alex Jones today.

  138. mh

    Roger Stone is breaking his gag order on Alex Jones today.

    Phrasing

  139. egg_

    Sam Pang used to be on soccer panel on Fox.
    With Santo from D-Gen & Ed somebody.

    Ed Kavalee.

  140. hzhousewife

    if it can be proven to be economically viable

    Since when did this little fact matter to the banks, the super funds or the government regarding other forms of energy production – wind, waves, solar.

  141. Leigh Lowe

    An Australian captain should never ever retrieve an engagement ring from a toilet bowl.
    Unseemly.

    Does it make it ok if he used a straw?

    Apparently retrieval wasn’t a problem.
    Lara was furious when she threw the very expensive ring in the bog and it floated.

  142. egg_

    shovelling perpetual filth protestors out of the way

    Get the bruvvas to take care of ’em?

  143. jupes

    Hey Drills, whatever happened to Marcus Adonis?

    Last seen impressing some young chickadees in the gym with this lift.

  144. Pedro the Ignorant

    Paki mob in England energised, and they are not even on the piss.

    (Well, they might be, but their moongod wouldn’t approve and might chuck them off the top tier of the stand)

  145. Bruce in WA

    Splash the Zeros.

  146. Armadillo

    You can’t live without oxygen. Especially politically.

    Follow the money.

  147. Knuckle Dragger

    The best course of action for the ladeee commentator would be to wander through the rooms, get a quick one in and later claim she was looking for a sandwich.

  148. Infidel Tiger

    Appalling batting.

    Can’t defend that sort of total.

  149. Zyconoclast

    The 1000 year Reich?

    Macron would back Angela Merkel as European Commission president
    The German chancellor has repeatedly denied any intention to continue in politics, but talk of her leading the Commission persists. France’s president has now given his backing for Angela Merkel to take over in the role.

    https://www.dw.com/en/macron-would-back-angela-merkel-as-european-commission-president/a-49144444

  150. Zyconoclast

    Iran’s top diplomat says his country executes gay people because of ‘moral principles’

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/irans-top-diplomat-javad-zarif-defends-execution-of-gay-people-2019-6?r=US&IR=T

  151. Leigh Lowe

    I’m torn.
    Part of me wants to see the Wallabies, Matildas and the Cricket chaps belted.
    I want to see the corporate sponsors drop off.
    Although that will just mean more Gummint money.

  152. Armadillo

    Sinc, I demand “Money is Oxygen” be made a Liberty Quote.

    Think about it. Even the poorest man alive, regardless of how intelligent or talented he may be, he’s pretty much fucked unless someone provides a resource.

  153. Armadillo

    The poor bastard is better off digging for yams.

  154. Knuckle Dragger

    I can’t be alone in thinking this.

    Every member of the CA board should be given the arse and replaced by one man.

    Jeff Thomson.

  155. Zyconoclast

    A CATHOLIC NUN was decapitated in a brutal attack during two weeks of violence in the Central African Republic which has killed at least 30 people.

    It has not been confirmed who carried out her beheading.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1134848/christianity-news-central-african-republic-nun-attack-catholic

  156. Armadillo

    Iran’s top diplomat says his country executes gay people because of ‘moral principles’

    In the Western World, it’s morally wrong to kill someone because of their beliefs. But you can execute them if they kill someone. It’s about the “Law of the Land”.

    Western law can be changed via Parliament. Shariah law can’t. That’s the crux.

  157. egg_

    Duchess of Cambridge shears a sheep.

    She can pat my python anytime.

  158. egg_

    Duchess of Cambridge shears a sheep.

    Upstaging Markle?

  159. Bruce in WA

    To any of the Cats who haven’t seen it, I can recommend 13 hours: Secret Soldiers of Benghazi.

    Based on a true story, very, very well re-created. Great effects. It is, ultimately, gut-wrenching.

    Find the whole thing:

  160. egg_

    Iran’s top diplomat says his country executes gay people because of ‘moral principles’

    When’s Marr paying them a visit?

  161. Armadillo

    I wouldn’t particularly like to live under any religious law. But that’s where we are at. Half of the worlds population has little choice.

  162. Armadillo

    The text within the I religion does provide an “out” for adherents. I’m somewhat surprised that the West hasn’t focussed on it more.

    As a Catholic, the “burning in hell” stuff in the Bible isn’t as predominant as it was in my childhood.

    Depends what you want to focus on I guess.

  163. Knuckle Dragger

    Ladeeees in Politics, part 8:

    NT chick Minister for Something gets into a lift a Parliament House in Darwin with two blokes. Already in the lift is an opposition staffer. Also non-penis-bearing. The two know each other.

    Minister says to the two blokes – ‘Quick, grab her and bash her.’

    Opposition staffer goes home sick, calls the media to tell them the Minister is a bully and should be sacked. Minister publicly apologises. Staffer files a WorkCover claim, which is immediately accepted.

    Link at the NT News. Salty, salty tears.

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    A final word on Mick Gooda before I retire, spent.

    I sincerely hope a wardrobe falls on his vagina.

    (h/t Nick)

  165. Minister says to the two blokes – ‘Quick, grab her and bash her.’

    Our future is in such mature hands.
    Having more women in politics makes it more peaceful & nurturing, less aggressive, and remove the mindless violence aspect men brought to the game.

  166. Steve trickler

    Respect between both.



  167. Armadillo

    Respect between both.

    Wow, the spontaneity was amazing.

  168. calli

    They are a bunch of ginger, freckled, humourless twats.

    Fact Check: true

    I’m a hybrid Irish/Pom. I have to explain jokes to the Beloved.

    Tedious.

  169. calli

    Oh, yay! I’ve landed in the Cat crypt again.

    Tonight I will be in Calgary ready for the Iceland Parkway or the Parkland Iceway thingy. Next time I see Alaska will be from the sea.

    Hopefully my bags will survive the journey. Delta Airlines – I’m looking at youse.

  170. Armadillo

    Just been texting Miss A. It’s her 21st next week.

    She’s been to a funeral for a Year 12 class mate in Sydney. Asian guy that was her nemesis (marks wise) in high school. Nice guy. Lovely bloke. Incredibly smart. Immigrant kid, one of two. Sandstone University. No subsidies. Mum worked three jobs to get him through. Forty of his classmates turned up to the funeral.

    Suicide. Overdose of pills. The guy didn’t even drink much, let alone take drugs.

    It’s hard for “kids” to reason with this stuff, let alone adults. No apparent reason.

    I did a reasonable job of calming her. Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

  171. Armadillo

    Hopefully my bags will survive the journey. Delta Airlines – I’m looking at youse.

    Handcuff yourself to them. Glare at anyone who looks at you.

  172. Infidel Tiger

    Good to see toxic Nikki Savva has effortlessly shifted her column to attacking Morrison.

    She is deranged.

  173. Armadillo

    If you take onboard a “distraction Chicken”, they probably won’t notice the handcuffs around the baggage.

    Tell them the chicken is your companion pet. Argue for a bit, then give up the chook after much protest. It’s a chook. They can have it. They won’t even see you handcuffed to your luggage.

    [Note: Works better with a live chook rather than a frozen one]

  174. Armadillo

    She is deranged.

    She will start wearing an eye patch soon. It’s one step up from a Bandana. Always escalate.

  175. None

    Salvatore Babone in the Oz:
    The Catholic Church has emerged as this week’s unlikely champion of open dialogue and intellectual freedom.

    As lesbian, gay, bisexual, and especially transsexual activists seek to close down society’s debate over the nature of sexuality and gender, the Vatican seems determined to pry it open.

    On Monday, the Vatican’s Congregation for Catholic Education published a report called Male and Female He Created Them to lay out the church’s views on the proper role of modern gender theory in Catholic education. The title is a quote from Genesis (the book, not the band), chapter 5. The report, unsurprisingly, comes out in favour of traditional sex roles and gender identities.

    Of course, those views have not been welcomed by LGBT activists or their friends in the media. Their attacks have been vicious, accusing the Vatican of encouraging hatred and bigotry.

    cont.

  176. None

    I did a reasonable job of calming her. Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

    You have done fine. As I keep telling the twenty-somethingsbrought up on a diet that they are special and the world is their oyster: life comes at you fast. Life is often messy, painful or confusing and the real taste of success is actually how you deal with life’s vicissitudes not your school grades and pay packet. The takeaway lesson is that she is not responsible for his actions tragic as they are. Suicide is not rational and cannot be explained. Do not assume that what you see on the surface is what is really going on in somebody’s life. She did well to support and comfort his family by attending the funeral.

  177. calli

    The Distraction Chook has merit. All I’ve seen so far are trumpeter swans. A bit big, and I believe they’re nasty buggers. I’ve got three hours to catch and tame one.

    On the Aussie meat issue – so glad we have some primary producers here at the Cat. I’m sure a barter system can be arranged. Gez and John – do you need some building work done? 😁

  178. None

    Salvatore Babone no the exponential increase in the number of kids claiming to be transgender in Victoria. I say there is a correlation between that and teaching gender Theory in school.

  179. calli

    I did a reasonable job of calming her. Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

    You can’t really deal with it. Keep the lines of communication open with your daughter – always.

    Her friend was tempted to despair and gave in. And it is a temptation, like any other. This sort of stuff was once spelled out to young people, but has become unfashionable in our enlightened age.

    There is so much to live for. But try telling that to a depressed teenager. If they have the sense that there is something outside themselves working on their weaknesses, enjoying their pain, they can fight back. How dare you do that to me! And seek spiritual protection. That’s a Christian view, anyway.

    My family are going through a perilous time with an older man. Hideous as it is, the choice to end it all is his and his alone. The cruelty and selfishness of it is another thing altogether.

  180. None

    Gutless response by NYT. They should have just fired the idiot who picked up that shoddy antisemitic cartoon and cancelled the sub to the syndicate which provided it.

  181. calli

    Yep. The cartoon was hideous, sooooo…ban cartoons.

    No one saw that coming.

    Spartacus has run Areopagitica on another thread. Worth a read.

  182. calli

    Zanetti has nailed Charismatic (and Amazingly Flexible) Albo. Chortle.

  183. Tintarella di Luna

    Thank you Tom and Paul Zanetti gets to the knob of Labor/Union

  184. Knuckle Dragger

    I don’t even know why they bother with tear gas at demonstrations any more. It’s a double-edged sword at best.

    Look at the inscrutable Hongs. Thinking ahead – a $3 pair of hammer shop goggles, $1 plastic ponchos they sell at the footy, a paper face mask and umbrellas and unless you cop a direct and sustained foam spray in the face you’re good to go.

    The wind blows that shit everywhere, making the most likely people to be affected are pedestrians a couple of blocks away and journos. Plus, if you’re exposed to it enough (ie, professional protestors and rent-a-crowd) you can fight through it.

    Water cannon, followed by baton charges to take and hold ground. It’s the only way.

  185. Knuckle Dragger

    If this keeps up I’m doing an Armadillo run till lunchtime.

  186. bespoke

    Armadillo
    #3041358, posted on June 13, 2019 at 1:52 am
    I did a reasonable job of calming her. Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

    Hugs and more hugs and listening. You’ll do fine Amarma.

  187. The Washington Post missed it by that much –

    By 6 March, the number of gun-related deaths in the U.S. in 2019 had surpassed the total number of U.S. combatant deaths on D-Day.
    What’s True

    According to a reliable database of U.S. gun violence, 2,487 gun-related deaths took place between 1 January and 6 March 2019 , a number very close to the 2,501 U.S. combatants known to have died in D-Day.
    What’s False

    According to our analysis of reliable U.S. gun violence data, the number of gun-related deaths in 2019 passed the threshold of 2,501 on 7 March, rather than 6 March. The figure of 2,501 U.S. combatant deaths in D-Day is an estimate which, despite being the most reliable available, should not be regarded as definitive or final.

    Land of the brave, home of the (shooting) spree…..

  188. rickw

    Food security should be our number one priority.

    Back to reality.

  189. Robber Baron

    Labor women love being belted and [email protected] by Labor men.

    It’s not [email protected] and battery when it’s a Labor man. It’s called feedback. Positive and negative.

  190. Arky

    Cartoon in the Herald Sun depicting Setka as an ape.
    HANG ON.
    I’m confused. Didn’t we decide years ago that calling someone an ape was racist?

  191. Top Ender

    The thorn in Labor’s side

    Fiery Victorian union boss John Setka, the physically imposing, tattooed former builders labourer, is running out of supporters.

    By EWIN HANNAN

    John Setka is sitting in his fifth-floor office of the Victorian headquarters of the Construction Forestry Maritime Mining and Energy Union, threatening vengeance. It is May last year, the day after prosecutors dropped blackmail charges against Setka and his deputy, Shaun Reardon.

    “We will go after everyone concerned,” he tells The Australian. “We will not rest. We want a bit of justice — because you just can’t go and do this to us, to the union, to the wider union movement, and just walk away scot-free.”

    But 13 months on it is Setka, the physically imposing, tattooed former builders labourer, who is getting his comeuppance as Anthony Albanese moves to expel him from the Labor Party. Beyond expulsion from the ALP, there is a growing push for him to be forced out as the CFMEU’s Victorian secretary.

    The tipping point has been Setka’s reported claim that the work of anti-domestic-violence campaigner Rosie Batty had reduced men’s rights. Setka insists his comments about Batty to the CFMEU national executive have been “taken out of context”, a claim met with heavy scepticism by ALP figures and union leaders.

    In an interview with The New Daily yesterday, Setka conceded he told the executive meeting that lawyers had informed him laws had been too skewed against women in the past and were now — in the wake of Batty’s campaign and the Victorian royal commission into family violence — skewed against men. But he denied this was a criticism of Batty.

    At a press conference in Melbourne today, Setka said “there is no reason’’ for him to resign and claimed he was the victim of “false allegations” being made for political gain.

    But the mood in senior union circles is that he has to go. Union sources say action could be taken against him at a meeting next week of the CFMEU’s construction division executive. Sources say a motion could be passed stating that he has brought the union into disrepute

    ACTU secretary Sally McManus has cut short her attendance at an International Labour Organisation conference and will arrive back in Australian today to deal with the crisis.

    Batty should have been celebrating her appointment as an Officer of the Order of Australia on Monday, but instead was dealing with the furore over Setka’s comments. Albanese says Batty told him she was “disappointed that this was a distraction from the honour that she received”.

    “Rosie Batty is a great campaigner against family violence and the idea that she should be denigrated by someone like John Setka is completely unacceptable to me as leader of the Australian Labor Party, and I don’t want him in our party. It’s that simple,’’ he said. Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews backed the move by Albanese, saying pointedly that Setka’s comments “cannot be defended in any context”.

    “Rosie Batty is a person of great courage who has fundamentally changed the way our country views and acts on family violence. She is rightly admired by all Australians,” he said yesterday. “The comments made about her by Mr Setka are disgraceful and his ­refusal to apologise for them is ­appalling.”

    Scandals grow

    The uproar over Setka’s comments comes as he intends to plead guilty later this month to harassing a woman using a carriage service. The decision to make a guilty plea came after prosecutors agreed to drop dozens of other charges.

    According to yesterday’s Herald Sun, the dossier against Setka includes 32 pages of text messages, at least three statements from the woman and a witness statement from a former deputy president of the Fair Work Commission, Anne Gooley.

    Police will reportedly allege that on a night in October last year, Setka phoned the woman at least 25 times and sent her 45 text messages, 20 of which were photos. The Herald Sun says the texts included: “Your dad would be so proud of you, you turned into a drunken moron … you weak f..ken piece of shit” and “You’re a c..t just like the rest of your family”.

    McManus says Setka should apologise for his comments about Batty. “If the comments attributed to John Setka reported over the weekend are correct, they are appalling and totally unacceptable,’’ she says.

    “They do not reflect our values or the work that unions do to ­campaign against family and domestic violence and should be immediately withdrawn and apologised for.”

    But she says Setka should also quit if the allegations before the court are proven: “If any of these allegations are correct, John Setka must resign. There is no place for perpetrators of domestic violence in leadership positions in our movement.’’

    ACTU president Michele O’Neil adds: “We will not tolerate violence against women in our movement. Our leaders must demonstrate our values.”

    Victorian Trades Hall Council secretary Luke Hilakari says Setka should withdraw the comments. “We have the deepest respect for Rosie Batty and what she’s done,’’ Hilakari says. “We believe everyone has a right to feel safe and be respected. Prejudice and discrimination, including misogyny, have no place in our movement.”

    History of criticism

    Setka’s conduct has previously attracted strong criticism, including his attack at a rally in 2017 on Australian Building and Construction Commission inspectors, an incident referenced by Albanese yesterday.

    At the rally, Setka threatened to reveal the home addresses of ABCC inspectors and lobby their local shopping centres and football clubs to ensure their “kids will be ashamed of who their parents are”. “Let me give a dire warning to the ABCC inspectors: be careful what you do,’’ he said, claiming many did not have their names on the electoral roll.

    “They have got to lead these secret little lives because they are ashamed of what they do. You know what we’re going to do? We’re going to expose them all. We will lobby their neighbourhoods. We will tell them who lives in that house. What he does for a living, or she. We will go to their local football club. We will go to the local shopping centre.

    “They will not be able to show their faces anywhere. Their kids will be ashamed of who their parents are when we expose all these ABCC inspectors.”

    Declaring the CFMEU “out of control”, then employment minister Michaelia Cash referred the comments to the Australia Federal Police, saying they were “threatening and menacing in nature”, but the AFP decided not to ­investigate.

    After three days of controversy, Setka made a qualified apology, claiming “the speech was made in the heat of the moment and reflects what’s really going on across the country under this anti-worker government’’.

    “But as a family man and father of three beautiful children, if my comments were taken out of context or if they came across in a manner that was threatening, then I truly apologise,” he added.

    Setka again attracted condemnation last September when he posted a tweet featuring a photograph of his young son and daughter holding a sign that read “GO GET FU#KED”.

    Targeting ABCC commissioner Stephen McBurney, Setka wrote: “Message to McBurney and the ABCC: Leave our dads alone and catch the real criminals you cowards. Happy Father’s Day to all the @CFMEU dads today.”

    Following widespread criticism — including from Scott Morrison, who described Setka’s use of his children as “the ugliest thing I have ever seen” — Setka tweeted a retraction.

    “Mea Culpa. Was emotional on Father’s Day after tough year on family. Shouldn’t have included kids. Now deleted,” he said.

    Over the years, Setka has faced calls — and not just from the Coalition — to be kicked out of the ALP. After his threats against ABCC inspectors in 2017, former ACTU president Martin Ferguson urged the Labor Party to not only expel Setka but to cut ties with the CFMEU’s construction division in Victoria.

    “It’s time that the Labor Party had a hard look at whether or not Mr Setka is a fit and proper person who should be entitled to party membership,” Ferguson, a lobbyist for the resources industry, told The Australian in 2017.

    “The real question for the Labor Party is whether or not the CFMEU’s building division in Victoria should be entitled to affiliate, because clearly it’s not a union that any decent worker can be proud of.

    “I think it’s time for the party to act on Bob Hawke’s comments some time ago to disaffiliate the building and construction division of the CFMEU in Victoria.”

    In contrast to his comments yesterday, Hilakari slammed Ferguson’s remarks, asserting at the time: “I don’t think Martin Ferguson is fit to lick the construction boots of John Setka. There is no bigger Judas than Martin Ferguson going around.

    “This guy earns a dollar by selling out to the mining and energy industry after being resources minister. And he has the gall to question John Setka’s integrity. I don’t think this yellow-bellied snake can get any lower.”

    Two years on, Albanese is in agreement with Ferguson about expelling Setka but no move had been made by Labor against the Victorian branch of the CFMEU.

    Under Bill Shorten, Setka’s public attacks on the ALP did not lead to action against him. In the interview with The Australian in May last year, he claimed Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard were “probably the worst Labor prime ministers we have ever f..king seen”.

    “I understand Labor governments have to govern for all Australians. They are not there just to govern for unions — but if you can’t restore basic workers’ rights as the Labor Party, then change your name. Don’t call yourselves the Labor Party. Be the stand-for-something Labor Party. The legacy the Rudd and Gillard governments left is an absolute disgrace,’’ he said.

    Setka said he hoped Shorten would make the Labor Party “how it used to be, actually stand up for working people”. But Shorten is now gone from the leadership, after losing the supposedly unlos­able election and Setka is an increasingly isolated figure.

    Hanging on

    Before Albanese’s public intervention yesterday, Labor Senate leader Penny Wong had called on Setka to consider his position.

    Recently retired ALP senator Doug Cameron, a former metalworkers union leader, called on Setka to quit.

    Cameron said he strongly supported the CFMEU as workers need effective and mindful unions. “It’s what my union called being a ‘mindful militant’,” Cameron tweeted. “There is nothing mindful about the alleged behaviour of John Setka. He should put the movement and members first by resigning.”

    While some union leaders state privately their preference for him to quit, they also argue he is an elected official who cannot be forced out against the majority wishes of the union rank-and-file membership.

    Australian Workers Union national secretary Daniel Walton says the allegations against Setka are “quite damning, and, frankly, quite diabolical”.

    “I certainly think the stances that have been taken by Sally McManus and, of course, Anthony Albanese, leader of the Labor Party, send a pretty strong signal that this kind of behaviour, if proven guilty, certainly won’t be accepted in the trade union movement and shouldn’t be accepted anywhere in society,’’ he told ABC television.

    Master Builders Australia chief executive Denita Wawn says while the stand taken by Albanese and the ACTU is refreshing, “it’s cold comfort for our members who daily bear the brunt of bullying from construction unions and their officials”.

    “On the upside, this can be a turning point for Labor if they take the next step and seize this opportunity to reject the CFMEU’s toxic culture of bullying,’’ she says.

    “With a softening economy, our industry, which is the nation’s second largest, shouldn’t be held back from driving economic growth by bullies and thugs.”

    But Wawn says Setka is “just one of many construction union bullies” and “there’s a litany of union officials who have records of breaking the law and many are still in powerful positions overseeing millions in members’ money”.

    Setka remains defiant: “I have been elected by union members. They are my bosses. If they want me to leave, I will step down tomorrow. But I am not going to stand down over innuendo and lies people have made up. This is dirty ALP politics.”

    But there is a growing view among ALP and union figures that his position is untenable. “It’s an absolute shit show,’’ one official says. “The general view is he has to go.”

    Link – article has lots of pix of union thug types featuring our John prominently

  192. Arky

    Dunno what the labour movement in this country has come to.
    In the old days if they wanted to do someone in they would shoot the bastard, not run to the media whining about sexism and brief their little journo stooges with some old text messages.

  193. Knuckle Dragger

    If the McManus skank has to cut short her overseas holiday, Setka is gorrnnnn, baby.

    Even Doogie ‘mind mah tea’ Cameron want him out.

  194. Nob

    Hey cats.

    I’m sitting in a outside bar in an equatorial part of Africa.

    Too breezy for the mozzies. I hope.
    Don’t trust that spray.

  195. Knuckle Dragger

    Yep.

    If they were serious lads, there’d be bodies in the street Painters and Dockers style.

    This crew are just overfed wife flogging nancy boys. Expect tears when the boxhead finally resigns.

    With a confidential ‘go-away’ payout, naturally.

  196. johanna

    Just catching up – Bern, thanks so much for the Sam Pang clips last night – they are a hoot! It is nice to remember that Australian comedy once existed, although it is largely extinct now.

    Since sport was very much on everyone’s mind last night, here is a list of the top earners worldwide, with the top ten being:

    Lionel Messi (football)— $US127 million
    Cristiano Ronaldo (football) — $US109 million
    Neymar (football) — $US105 million
    Canelo Alvarez (boxing) — $US94 million
    Roger Federer (tennis) — $US93.4 million
    Russell Wilson (NFL) — $US89.5 million
    Aaron Rodgers (NFL) — $US89.3 million
    LeBron James (NBA) — $US89 million
    Stephen Curry (NBA) — $US79.8 million
    Kevin Durant (NBA) — $US65.4 million

    Cricket fans might be interested to know that only one cricketer made the list – Virat Kohli, who made US$25 million, and came 100th.

    No Australians made the list, but NZ got one and the Domican Republic and Serbia each had two.

    Sad!

  197. Robber Baron

    Who would of thought that Dutton’s move against that poseur Turnbull would have turned the public’s attention back on the destructive anti-Australia policies of the left. The left lost the election. Adani will go ahead. Talk of coal and nuclear power. Union movement at war. Abbos biting the hands that feed them. It’s glorious.

    Where is Dutton’s Australia Day gong?

  198. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m honestly starting to think the AFL is trying to outdo RA in alienating the public.

    You cannot call an umpire a bald-headed flog.

    You cannot yell too loud at the footy, even though no swearing or offensive language was used.

    All blackfellas in the game must be celebrated, regardless of their skill level or what they may or may not have done before or after their career. Anyone of any other ethnicity whatsoever must take a back seat because 800,000 years and space travel.

    The whole thing is grinding to a halt. It’s time to scrap the Grand Final – in fact, any final. Scoring is banned, as in the under 10s. Everyone gets a participation ribbon and celebrates their mediocrity.

  199. Herodotus

    Iran’s top diplomat says his country executes gay people because of ‘moral principles’

    The vast majority of our media and politicians don’t want to discuss this.

  200. stackja

    GP ‘ghost patients’ to be investigated by NHS fraud squad – BBC News
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-48600923
    20 hours ago – The NHS fraud squad is investigating GPs in England amid suspicions they are claiming for non-existent patients. Doctors get an average of …

    The NHS fraud squad is investigating GPs in England amid suspicions they are claiming for non-existent patients.

    Doctors get an average of £150 a year for each patient on their list, but records show there were 3.6 million more patients in the system last year than there were people in England.

    The discrepancy prompted NHS England to employ a company to start chasing up these so-called ghost patients.

    The NHS Counter Fraud Authority is now launching its own investigation.

    Doctors’ leaders have always insisted the issue of ghost patients most often has an innocent explanation, such as instances where patients have died or moved without the knowledge of their GP.

  201. Knuckle Dragger

    Iran executed more homos in two months this year than US soldiers died on D Day.

    This is according to an analysis of reliable data.

  202. johanna

    The Scare Du Jour – plastic. How about this for junk science:

    A new study has found that the global average of microplastic ingestion could be as high as five grams a week per person, which is the equivalent of eating a teaspoon of plastic — or a credit card — every week.

    The study was commissioned by the World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF) and carried out by the microplastics research team at Australia’s University of Newcastle.

    It collated the findings of 50 international research papers in an attempt to provide an accurate calculation of ingestion rates.

    Note that there is no attempt to measure the actual ingestion of plastic particles by a single human being.

    Note that there is no attempt at quality control of the ‘research’ results they collated.

    Note that it was commissioned by serial liars Worldwide Fund for Nature.

    Expect much, much more of this garbage to justify the Panic Du Jour.

  203. Leigh Lowe

    Thanks Tom.
    Wow!
    I never thought Rowe would go there.
    Brilliant!

  204. Seco

    Suicides are the leading cause of gun deaths in the US. Who knew?

    Have they drilled down on ethnic gangland deaths? Because taking a gun from a white farmer in Texas will do what to the weekly Chicago death toll?

  205. Leigh Lowe

    The Pakis collapsed like Christine Nixon’s deckchair.

  206. DrBeauGan

    Isn’t there a happy medium between executing homosexuals and celebrating them with rainbow flags? Just ignoring them, maybe?

  207. Seco

    The AFL statement after a bloke yelled at an umpire, got subjected to a grilling from the Cops an the AFL Integrity Officer and the kicked out only to have been cleared a fe days later but given a “warning”.

    AFL STATEMENT IN FULL

    The AFL has today concluded its investigation into an incident involving an umpire and a patron at the round 12 match between Carlton and the Brisbane Lions at Marvel Stadium on Saturday.

    Marvel Stadium security were alerted to a patron who was leaning over the umpire’s race and abusing umpire Mathew Nicholls as he was leaving the ground at halftime.

    The patron was spoken to by both Marvel Stadium security and Victoria Police and subsequently removed from the venue for the remainder of the game.

    The patron has received a warning and no further action will be taken.

    The AFL and our venues want to create a safe and fun environment for all fans to come to and enjoy the football.

    For over 100 years, the footy has been a place to come together, barrack, cheer and share in the experience in whichever way you choose.

    There has been no directive from the AFL to change this.

    The theatre of match day is one of the great sporting experiences, a place to be expressive and passionate about your team and the game, it always has been, it always will be.

    In season 2019 there has been no change to the expectations of the behavior of everyone at games.

    We want fans to enjoy attending matches and allow other fans around them to do the same.

    While barracking and supporting is both strongly encouraged and a vital part of the game, offensive or aggressive behaviour will not be tolerated.

    Fans who consume alcohol on a match day are to do so responsibly.

    The AFL’s zero tolerance stance on vilification remains.

    Stadiums and police across the country have a zero-tolerance for members or supporters that abuse the opposition, umpires and other members and supporters, on grounds of race, religion, gender, disability and sexuality.

    Fans who breach the conditions of entry may face consequences.

    Anyone involved in football at any level, from the community to the elite should be able to enjoy the game in a safe and inclusive environment.

    The AFL’s message to everyone is clear – come to the footy, barrack as loud as you can, enjoy the game and do so in a responsible manner.

  208. Seco

    Wow, shockingly spelled post that, I missed letters everywhere.

  209. Knuckle Dragger

    This year alone, three people have been murdered in the US by killer bees.

    God damn you, Donald Trump.

  210. Leigh Lowe

    If the McManus skank has to cut short her overseas holiday, Setka is gorrnnnn, baby.

    If he doesn’t go of his own accord, exactly how do they make him?
    I’ll bet he has dirt on quite a few in the Yoonyun Mooment, and wouldn’t be afraid to use it.

  211. Notafan

    John Sekta is responsible for generating a huge amount of words atm.

    Post election distraction.

    Who will replace him.

  212. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘a safe and fun environment’
    ….
    ‘Righto lads! Who’s up for heading to the G on Friday night? It’ll be safe and fun!’

    Said no football fan ever, in any code, in the entire human history of contact sport.

  213. hzhousewife

    The whole thing is grinding to a halt.

    Corporate sport is a rort.

  214. Knuckle Dragger

    LL,

    A chunk of wukkas’ super cash for just-shut-up-and-go-away should do it.

  215. Cassie of Sydney

    “Arky
    #3041406, posted on June 13, 2019 at 6:26 am
    Cartoon in the Herald Sun depicting Setka as an ape.
    HANG ON.
    I’m confused. Didn’t we decide years ago that calling someone an ape was racist?”

    “Ape” is only offensive if that “someone” is indigenous or claims to be indigenous….you know the schtick of saying that because your great-grandmother was indigenous that means you are.

    Otherwise you can call, smear and label a white man anything. And at the end of the day Setka is a white man so he doesn’t count. So on the ladder of leftist victimhood Setka, despite being a hard core leftist, is always going to be trumped by a woman and especially if that woman happens to be called St Rosie. We saw something similar recently with Skank Keneally’s promotion….she usurped the Muslim Ed Husic (a nice man who happens to be have some talent…but that doesn’t count). What counts is that Skank Keneally is a woman.

    I must admit to enjoying the schadenfreude. It’s all rather funny how Setka is now being smeared and labelled as a “brute” and a “devil” for supposedly saying something critical about St Rosie of Yarragrad. Nevermind Setka’s years of bullying, thuggery, intimidation and all the other stuff….I mean nobody really cared when Setka and his CFMEU mates thought it okay to threaten building watchdog inspectors and their families…..but say something critical of St Rosie and your done and dusted.

  216. Leigh Lowe

    A chunk of wukkas’ super cash for just-shut-up-and-go-away should do it.

    Ah, well, a buy-out is a possibility.
    A straight sacking isn’t going to fly.

  217. Cassie of Sydney

    “Arky
    #3041406, posted on June 13, 2019 at 6:26 am
    Cartoon in the Herald Sun depicting Setka as an ape.
    HANG ON.
    I’m confused. Didn’t we decide years ago that calling someone an ape was racist?”

    “Ape” is only racist and offensive if that “someone” is indigenous or claims to be indigenous….you know the schtick of saying that because your great-grandmother was indigenous that means you are.

    Otherwise you can call, smear and label a white man anything. And at the end of the day Setka is a white man so he doesn’t count. So on the ladder of leftist victimhood Setka, despite being a hard core leftist, is always going to be trumped by a woman and especially if that woman happens to be called St Rosie. We saw something similar recently with Skank Keneally’s promotion….she usurped the Muesli Ed Husic (a nice man who happens to be have some talent…but that doesn’t count). What counts is that Skank Keneally is a woman.

    I must admit to enjoying the schadenfreude. It’s all rather funny how Setka is now being smeared and labelled as a “brute” and a “devil” for supposedly saying something critical about St Rosie of Yarragrad. Nevermind Setka’s years of bullying, thuggery, intimidation and all the other stuff….I mean nobody really cared when Setka and his CFMEU mates thought it okay to threaten building watchdog inspectors and their families…..but say something critical of St Rosie and your done and dusted.

  218. Notafan

    Sad dillo

    Some parents put enormous expectations on their children to achieve academic,sporting and financial success.

    Some young people do a fantastic job of hiding depression until it is too late.

    Calli is right.

    Need something outside ourselves.

  219. Leigh Lowe

    Post election distraction.

    Today is Adani tick-off day.
    JC’s hot-line will be running, well, hot.

  220. stackja

    mh
    #3041446, posted on June 13, 2019 at 7:53 am
    Van Badham with Aussie John Setka. Excited!

    Yes!

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