Open Forum: June 15, 2019

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  1. Mother Lode

    But no. The Italians poked their noses in where they weren’t wanted and got the thrashing of a lifetime.

    They do seem a particularly quarrelsome people. The Germans missed the opportunity to be civilised and sublimate their more brutal instincts. The French (cousins to the Germans) were Romanised and built a great civilisation, astounding art, spectacular food and wine. The Spanish too. Overrun by the Musselman hordes resisted transformative efforts and eventually saw the slovenly goat-botherers off. The then went on to cross the globe and build a great empire.

    The Germans are always savage. The Reformation unleashed an orgy of destruction of beauty and wanton obliteration of stillness and reflection. They were troublesome in the 20th century with their second foray into European domination resulted in deeds so horrifying that we are blessed that the limits of human imagination means we can only conceive of a few fragments at a time.

    Even they know sufficient of their own nature to instinctively desire to be controlled and governed in almost every corner of their life.

    Nup. The Teutoburg Forest massacre was a disaster for everyone – even the Germans.

  2. Cassie of Sydney

    I see Scumbers, the Jooo hating bird shitter, wants to be the Cat Behavioural Awareness Officer…I wonder where he wants to send me…probably a “work” camp where on the gate there are the following words…..”Arbeit macht frei”.

  3. Rossini

    JohnJJJ
    #3044357, posted on June 17, 2019 at 8:24 am

    You want bullets with that!

  4. feelthebern

    All stadiums in Australia have booze free zones for the last decade.
    Some like Canberra stadium, have had a booze free zone since the late 90’s.
    If boozers offend you so much, sit there.

  5. C.L.

    Embattled former rugby star Israel Folau intensified his attack on homosexuals and criticised youths undergoing gender treatment during a sermon at his Sydney church on Sunday.

    No, Daily Telegraph snowflakes, he did neither of those things. Your first paragraph is a lie.
    Note well that this supposed newspaper of the common man now regards the sexual mutilation of children as beyond criticism.

  6. Percy Popinjay

    the Jooo hating bird shitter, wants to be the Cat Behavioural Awareness Officer…

    Thus confirming my earlier observation.

  7. Mother Lode

    There’s been a bit about the Behaviour Awareness Flogs this morning, and deservedly so.

    There is a parallel to the treatment of Izzy Folau – that people must only show the world the face sanctioned by authority. You can believe what you like (because they can’t reach into your brain), but you may only say it, support it, or live it if the state or the authorities consider it acceptable according to guidelines they have come up with.

  8. stackja

    2GB AJ interviewed Helen Pluckrose

    The academic hoax with a serious purpose

    It was the article about “r-pe culture and queer performativity in urban dog parks” which gave it away. The Wall Street Journal began sniffing around an unusually absurd academic essay and blew the whistle.

    Academics Helen Pluckrose, James Lindsay and Peter Boghossian had written a series of nonsense essays and got them published in serious journals. One included a random selection of excerpts from Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf which was published by Affilia: Journal of Women and Social Work.

  9. stackja

    Ern Malley
    From Wikipedia,

    Ernest Lalor “Ern” Malley was a fictitious poet and the central figure in Australia’s most famous literary hoax, known as the Ern Malley hoax or the Ern Malley affair. He and his entire body of work were created in one day in 1943 by conservative writers James McAuley and Harold Stewart in order to hoax members of the Angry Penguins, a modernist art and literary movement centered around a journal of the same name, co-edited by poet Max Harris and art patron John Reed, of Heide, Melbourne.

    Imitating the modernist poetry they despised, the hoaxers deliberately created what they thought was bad verse and mailed sixteen poems to Harris under the guise of Ethel, Ern Malley’s surviving sister. Harris and other members of the Heide Circle fell for the hoax, and, enraptured by the poetry, devoted the next issue of Angry Penguins to Malley, hailing him as a genius. The hoax was revealed soon after, resulting in a cause célèbre and the humiliation of Harris, who was put on trial, convicted and fined for publishing the poems on the grounds that they contained obscene content. Angry Penguins folded in 1946.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    How about that?
    Uncle Ho’s Toowoomba Woke Sleeper Cell loves totalitarian behaviour management at the footy.

  11. Old School Conservative

    All I wanted to say at The Oz about Izzy’s sermon and F/B post was:
    Finally. An honest man speaks the truth about young children and transgenderism.
    But no comments shrieked the paper!

    Meanwhile, Tom linked us to a very funny “free” speech cartoon.

    Memo you statists at The Oz – you can’t have it both ways.

  12. Robber Baron

    I had a quick look at who makes up the AFL Commission. It’s full of rich-listers and SJW’s.

    One name that jumped out made me click on to he wiki page. Welly welly welly, what do we have here? The connections are amazing in the SJW world. See HERE.

  13. dover_beach

    Folau did not attack ‘transgender children’, he attacked gender ideology. If the Australian thinks that constitutes an attack on the former then we are justified in calling today’s ‘report’ as an attack on Christians and other opponents of gender ideology.

    P.S. twostix was dead right about transgenderism, the Left is getting ready to flex some fascist muscle on this having already prepared the ground. Right-thinking people better not prevaricate and look for a ‘moderate’ solution.

  14. John64

    On RN this morning; Frank Elly and Michelle Grattan in firm agreement that the Federal Government would be foolish to attempt to repeal the Medi-Vac legislation as it has “overwhelming community support”.

    A quite reasonable conclusion to draw if your world view is restricted to a 15km radius from Ultimo and Southbank.

  15. Nick

    The loudest thing at the footy are the betting ads. I’ll bet they won’t be going anytime soon…

  16. MatrixTransform

    So for the Brigadier and the AFL, their punters are considered human resources?

    What happens when Dad says, “bugger it, I’m not going to the ground The Local has it on tv” … the wymensys are gonna ring HR?

  17. mh

    My thoughts too…I am about to terminate my subscription…

    Cassie, have you cancelled your Oz subscription yet?

    Don’t leave us in suspense.

  18. C.L.

    Right-thinking people better not prevaricate and look for a ‘moderate’ solution.

    That’s exactly what the Liberal Party will do.
    They will do something like ‘insist’ the mutilations proceed only after age 15 with six ‘medical’ endorsements plus a ‘cooling off’ period; they will then stake this out as the ‘conservative’ policy.
    Never forget what this country’s ‘conservative’ commentariat did in the gay ‘marriage’ ‘debate.’ They re-badged it as ‘conservative’ because marriage is good. So look for a ‘personal freedom’ angle being worked into their capitulation to the mutilators as well.

  19. thefrollickingmole

    “In today’s youths and everything, they are allowing young kids in primary school to be able to have the permission to change their gender if they want by taking away the permission of the parents,”

    Ok lets have a referendum on this using those exact terms.
    Yea or nay.

    Numberwang who is still shitty about someone forcing him into compliance 50 years ago is all “”More power to the AFL’s elbow”and positively moist about others being forced into compliance.

    As usual.

    Also stick a fork in the AFL, they have become floggers inc.

    https://www.afl.com.au/afleducation/respect

  20. MatrixTransform

    The Numptard considers itself the issuing authority of Moral Licenses

  21. Geriatric Mayfly

    After returning from Afghanistan then Brigadier Wilkie was posted as the Chief of Staff to the Chief of Army (Lieutenant General David Morrison) at Army Headquarters in Canberra. In March 2013 the Minister for Defence, Stephen Smith,

    There’s two other names that “jump out” Robber Baron.

  22. EvilElvis

    Mark Robinson, footy writer for the Currant Bun and AFL360 talking head is usually someone I have a bit of time for in respect of matters football.

    KD, KD, KD. Just dropped a rung on the Cat Ladder™, chief. Been on another Finch like innings to, good show.

  23. C.L.

    Is this the ‘Numptard’ about 20 people here spend each and every day talking to and agonising over?

  24. Seco

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3044316, posted on June 17, 2019 at 6:45 am
    Mark Robinson, footy writer for the Currant Bun and AFL360 talking head is usually someone I have a bit of time for in respect of matters football. Goes off the reservation from time to time, but generally worth having a look at.

    KD, be careful, you’ve nearly blown any credibility you had with that statement.

    Robbo is the sort of guy who puts a picture of a young footballer snorting coke on the front page of the Herald Sun then two days later writes an article about the terrible state of mental health problems affecting the modern AFL player.

    He’s also determined to be “on the right side of history” on every social issue (Goodes, AFLW, Multi Culti round etc etc) the AFL shoves down our throats.

    You’re better than this.

  25. Mother Lode

    Strange the words that silently disappear.

    Let’s take a word like ‘cur’, as in mongrel.

    A great epithet.

    For example, ‘that Numberwang cur.’

    Say it out loud and tell me it doesn’t somehow sound all too true.

  26. MatrixTransform

    nothing shrieks ‘respect’ like the media assassination of good christian man, or poorign cold water on enthusiastic footy fans.

    except perhaps cattle-prods for Collinwood supporters … because they’re humane

  27. Robber Baron

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3044398, posted on June 17, 2019 at 9:26 am

    SJWs move in small circles.

  28. Seco

    So why has it taken so long for people and particularly politicians, such as Kennett and others, to speak up. The point is that the AFL has been playing and spruiking progressive politics now for years…it was inevitable that it would give rise to this kind of dystopian scenario where you have “Behavioural Awareness” officers” roaming through the crowd and monitoring behaviour….straight out of Orwell.

    Why? Because they by and large agree with the AFL right up to the moment it “goes to far”.

  29. Seco

    Didn’t Kennett have a say in handing the reigns of Beyond Blue to Gillard?

    They’re all the bloody same!

  30. Old School Conservative

    dover_beach
    #3044389, posted on June 17, 2019 at 9:14 am
    Folau did not attack ‘transgender children’, he attacked gender ideology

    Fascinating use of emotive words by The Oz in the opening paragraphs.
    “intensified his attack”
    “targeted transgender children”
    “escalated his attacks on homosexuals”
    “latest attack on gender and sexuality”

    But there will be some readers who accept the subliminal message.

  31. mh

    Maybe the AFL could hand out to supporters a small card directing them what to shout.

    Umpire, you are visually challenged!
    False Dichotomy!
    Thank you Aboriginals for giving us this wonderful game!

  32. Old School Conservative

    a small card directing them what to shout.

    “Should have gone to Specsavers!”

  33. thefrollickingmole

    New report from the guardian reveals women are mobile tax hoovers and men pay the vast majority of tax.

    Ok so they dont quite put it in those words, but their own reporting makes the case quite well.

    The Coalition’s plan to flatten tax brackets for middle to high income earners will provide twice as much benefit to men than women, a new analysis has found.

    The analysis by the Australia Institute, released on Monday, found that in 2024-25, the first year of the controversial third stage of the government’s tax plan, men will pocket $11bn in income tax cuts while women receive just $6bn.

    Or to put it another way, blokes are gouged for 5 billion more in tax than women.

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    I said ‘usually’!

    He said something about goalpost shaking a few weeks back that impressed me.

    Maybe that was an ‘outrider’. Hi Numberwangflog!

  35. The Countess

    I also enjoyed your article, Lizzie. My first teaching appointment was in “the Druitt” and I now live within spitting distance of the old ADI site. It’s good to remember that it wasn’t always mega houses on 400 sq m blocks.

  36. EvilElvis

    Behavioural Awareness Officers should be booed en masse by crowds whenever they make an appearance.

    This. This is one thing that will unite fans. A full ground crescendo of booing aimed directly at the BAOs, throw in a few “BAO maggots!” and the umpires will even get on board. Then march straight out of the ground up to Gils front gate and boo his house down.

  37. Woolfe

    Yes, no comments on the Folau hit piece, but the author is on twitter @saschaosullivan

  38. dover_beach

    That’s exactly what the Liberal Party will do.
    They will do something like ‘insist’ the mutilations proceed only after age 15 with six ‘medical’ endorsements plus a ‘cooling off’ period; they will then stake this out as the ‘conservative’ policy.
    Never forget what this country’s ‘conservative’ commentariat did in the gay ‘marriage’ ‘debate.’ They re-badged it as ‘conservative’ because marriage is good. So look for a ‘personal freedom’ angle being worked into their capitulation to the mutilators as well.

    Very likely. I was listening to 3AW Drive with Tom Elliot, John Elliot’s son, on transgenderism in sport last week, and he was attempting to parse a ‘middle road’ where you allowed men to play against women (and vice versa) so long as they meet certain physical regulations. Of course, he was calling men who ‘transitioned’ women; they simply don’t have the courage to say that any such claim is absurd and impossible.

    I will be very interested to see the position the IPA and CIS take on this issue.

  39. Woolfe

    DRB,
    You don’t need to print out your etsa visa, check on line to see if the number you were given has been approved. That’s it.

  40. EvilElvis

    a small card directing them what to shout.

    “My pie is an adequate temperature and my flat beer is also!”

  41. Seco

    1735099
    #3044365, posted on June 17, 2019 at 8:42 am
    To describe this complete AFL disaster as ‘over-reach’ would be similar to describing WW1 as ‘a bit of a cock-up.’

    More power to the AFL’s elbow.
    I stopped taking my kids to stadium sport when they were little because I got tired of them being exposed to anti-social behaviour by boozy attention seeking bogans – probably the of the same ignorant ilk, some of whom post here.
    They never learned basic good manners, and probably never will.
    They should not be inflicted on reasonable people.

    Yet you’d be front and centre at the Annual Union Picnic or Climate Rally.

  42. Stimpson J. Cat

    Well I think it’s fantastic the AFL is fully getting behind Pride Month and embracing its Gayness.

  43. hzhousewife

    All the BOA’s I have seen ( 5 mins telly last night) appear to be suitable culturally diverse males. Just sayin’.

  44. Nick

    a small card directing them what to shout.

    There are many genders

    Womens’ football is the best

    Indigenous players can do no wrong

    We love dear leader

  45. Geriatric Mayfly

    Keep an eye out for this new book:
    No One Is Too Small to Make a Difference
    By Greta Thunberg

    Is it on the prescribed reading list for 2020 Year 12 English students yet?

  46. Nick

    If the AFL wanted true diversity it would have blind umpires. Oh hang on.

  47. Entropy

    I was not aware that a John Lyons had slithered of to his natural home at their ABC. Has the Bittered Sav left also? If so it might almost be time to renew my subscription. No doubt that young Workman idiot will end up annoying me though.

  48. Stimpson J. Cat

    I have to say, this isn’t the first time Sane people have tried to mutilate Mentally Ill children and adults in the name of science and it won’t be the last.
    I can’t believe they are so open about it though.
    My poor people.
    Honestly Sane people disgust me sometimes.
    Maybe try cutting your own genitals for a change.

  49. P

    Bruce of Newcastle #3044176, posted on June 16, 2019 at 9:06 pm
    Neil Oliver’s doco on Robert the Bruce is mesmerising. 10 out of 10.

    I concur.

    ROBERT THE BRUCE movie
    Movie Trailer – Starring Angus Macfadyen Signature Entertainment Presents ROBERT THE BRUCE in Cinemas Nationwide from June 28th. Directed by an Australian, Richard Gray.

  50. calli

    The Icefield Parkway winds its way up from Lake Louise to Jasper. Edged with crystal blue lakes and foamy streams, with always a chance of spying wildlife right on the verge, it’s the perfect day trip.

    Snow covered mountains, ridges and hogs backs, waterfalls and frozen streams, and the star attractions – the glaciers. To the east, another reminder that this was once an ancient sea bed – great bluffs of horizontal strata, lifted high by the collision with the Pacific plate. Then a great mound of twisted, writhen stone, heated and honed in the slow, grinding process of continental drift. And passing it, down we go into yet another U shaped valley, edged with fans of ice-pulverised rock. “Beware! Avalanche!” say the bi-lingual signs.

    The traffic stops. A snowy mountain goat and her kid are grazing by the roadside. A dozen cameras whirr at the fluffy, delightful sight. Taking my eyes off the local cuteness, I spy a lovely, scarlet wildflower at my feet.

    The camera has been going gangbusters.

  51. Tailgunner

    CFMEU frontline report :
    Had a site-wide Toolbox meeting first thing this morning, shoppie explained that there’s ” a lot of bulls hit in the media about Secretary Setka ” he went on to say that someone else in the union movement was “out to get him…but that’s all I’ll say for now”
    My “Hey John Setka, have you stopped whacking your wife” toilet messages were brought up briefly too! Ahahahaha
    CFMEU, out.

  52. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Icefield Parkway winds its way up from Lake Louise to Jasper.

    Spectacular part of the world, isn’t it?

  53. cohenite

    stackja

    #3044385, posted on June 17, 2019 at 9:09 am

    Ern Malley
    From Wikipedia,

    Alarmism is the Ern Malley of science.

  54. Geriatric Mayfly

    Good grief. A picture at The Oz claims to be that of Sarah Ferguson, the fearless ABC sleuth. The beaming smile makes her unrecognisable; so used are we to the sour, hectoring, grimace which afflicts her senitive soul, so burdened with the world’s injustices.

  55. stackja

    Fathers Day yesterday?

  56. stackja

    Man, 60, bashed at Heyington railway station named as police assistant commissioner

    The victim of an “abhorrent” attack at a Melbourne railway station has been named as an assistant commissioner with the transit police, as the search for the two men responsible for the cowardly bashing continues.
    Mark Buttler, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    8 minutes ago

    The man who was assaulted at Heyington Railway Station on Saturday night has been named as Transit and Public Safety Command Assistant Commissioner Chris O’Neill.

    The high-ranking police officer is still in hospital following the bashing.

    The cowardly pair of thugs tormented a trainload of Melbourne passengers with uncouth behaviour before launching the attack.

    Insp Stephen O’Donnell said the men boarded a Glen Waverley-bound service yesterday afternoon at Southern Cross and immediately started to play up.

  57. calli

    This is what I saw grazing on the roadside.

    A thousand times better than clobbered kangaroos.

  58. “mh
    #3044394, posted on June 17, 2019 at 9:20 am
    My thoughts too…I am about to terminate my subscription…

    Cassie, have you cancelled your Oz subscription yet?

    Don’t leave us in suspense.”

    I have just received an email re. my comment about Amanda Knox from yesterday which was “rejected” last night after receiving many likes……..the editor said that there was nothing wrong with it and that it was going to be reinstated. I am still going to cancel my subscription to both the Oz and Telegraph. I have had enough…and today’s Telegraph headline about Folau is a disgrace.

  59. dover_beach

    I have just received an email re. my comment about Amanda Knox from yesterday which was “rejected” last night after receiving many likes……..the editor said that there was nothing wrong with it and that it was going to be reinstated.

    So why the initial censorship? Curious.

    Tim Pool’s latest video on the censorship practiced by the tech giants is good.

  60. calli

    Folau is bringing a sad fact into the light – our churches are being monitored for wrongthink.

    Forget secretive Red China. It’s happening in Australia and making headlines.

  61. If you you think AFL supporters are sheep-like as they herded into their designated stall, trained not to bleat and then fleeced.
    Dannograd public transport users aren’t much better.
    After taking on a couple of thugs on a suburban train, want to know how much help I received from other males on the train?
    Nix, zip, none.

  62. Roger

    I note the Australian media has escalated its attacks on Israel Folau.

    No wonder they are not reporting the truth about the Hong Kong rallies; like the Chinese government, they’d like to see Christians denied the right to free speech and the manifestation of their beliefs.

  63. Top Ender

    Politically correct London becoming more nutty by the day
    LETTER FROM EUROPE

    GREG SHERIDAN

    If Boris Johnson does become British prime minister next month, he will surely challenge one of the most profound ideological movements in Europe today, and one which flowers in Britain perhaps more fully than anywhere else in the world. I refer, of course, to political correctness.

    Britain, or rather, more specifically London, is surely the political correctness capital of the world.

    I have been here a mere couple of weeks and I am positively dizzy from the blizzard of intersectional offence-taking, speech clipping, thought controlling, verbal over – regulation.

    The loss of Christian belief seems to have resulted in the imposition of the most excessive version of psychologically damaged pseudo-religious scruples.

    Let me offer you a few examples of PC purity, from the trivial to the ridiculous.

    A GCSE English exam included a short passage from a 1935 novella by HE Bates.

    The passage was unexceptional. But later in the story, not in the passage examined, a girl in domestic service is exploited and raped by her employer.

    A Twitter storm erupted saying the examination paper should have had a trigger warning, and objecting to students being subjected to a story which included rape.

    Rape is a serious and tragic business, but like other crimes it has often figured in literature. In any event, the popular culture is, to its vast detriment, saturated in stories of rape. There were at least a dozen in every series of Game of Thrones, which was watched by millions of Brits. Therefore it was not really a question of anyone actually being offended by anything, it was a question of people searching out an offence against political correctness.

    And of course the exam authorities duly apologised for any distress they caused.

    Another exam, a maths paper this time, asked students to calculate the number of calories someone had consumed in a breakfast the paper described. The paper was roundly condemned for potentially causing distress to anyone who had struggled with body shape issues.

    Again, the hypocrisy is spectacular. Weight control programs are advertised all the time. But more than hypocrisy is the sheer psycho-silliness of the whole business.

    Comedy legend John Cleese recently issued a low-voltage tweet saying London did not seem to him any longer to be really an English city. He thought the city he grew up in was a bit nicer than the London of today.

    Now, as it happens, I’m more or less on the other side of this argument from Cleese. I like diversity. But Cleese’s calm, modest, perfectly lame tweet was condemned as though he had called for the slaughter of the innocents.

    There are many episodes far more serious than these. Some people lose jobs, others are silenced by fear. Jordan Peterson, the great Canadian writer and speaker, was about to undertake a fellowship at Cambridge to research the Book of Genesis. Somewhere on social media a photo was found of a fellow in a T-shirt with the logo “I’m an Islamophobe” who had draped his arm around Peterson’s neck. There was no serious effort to inquire into the degree of Peterson’s complicity or otherwise in such views as the T-shirt conveyed. His fellowship, however, was dropped.

    Distinguished philosopher Roger Scruton lost a government appointment because of an outrageous misrepresentation of things he’d said in an interview with the wretched New Statesman. The whole point of the interview was to entice Scruton into saying something that would get him into trouble. The allegedly offending words, that Chinese people were robots, were misrepresented in the journalist’s report. Scruton had criticised the Chinese government for trying to control its people.

    But the allegedly conservative government of Theresa May sacked Scruton without even the most cursory inquiry into what he had actually said. I don’t think an Abbott, Turnbull or Morrison government would have done that.

    Often, too, there is a sinister political double standard to political correctness. A comedian on the BBC mocked demonstrators for throwing milkshakes at Nigel Farage and said they should use battery acid instead. This is genuinely shocking. It is a rare example of the kind of speech — incitement to violence — which should indeed be outlawed. But the BBC defended the comic, saying obviously no one would take the words seriously. Can you imagine a similar reaction if the object of the proposed acid attack were not a right-wing bogeyman but a member of some designated victim group?

    Sometimes London is just a bit ahead of us in social trends. Are we going to be as nutty as this one day? Many people think the PC stuff will get worse if Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn becomes prime minister. I’m not entirely sure that’s right. London isn’t the whole of Britain. The Brexit rebellion was cultural as much as political. And the Conservatives would likely be braver in opposition than they have been in government.

    They could hardly be less so.

    Entire article from the print edition of the Oz

  64. Mother Lode

    a small card directing them what to shout.

    “My pie is an adequate temperature and my flat beer is also!”

    I suspect the cards will be a little more self-serving than that.

    More likely:

    “Thank you, AFL, for a game where all cultures can come together.”

    “We love diversity”

    “I am white and ashamed of it”

  65. This is the comment I posted yesterday afternoon on the Amanda Knox piece…

    “I have been following this case for years and there’s a lot missing in this rather convenient “victim” narrative on Amanda Knox. As for her claiming that “her innocence didn’t save her because the prosecutors and the media created a story and a version of her”….well I think that equally applies to Patrick Lumumba, a man who was falsely accused of the murder of Meredith Kercher…….by Amanda Knox.

    It is also worth noting that Amanda Knox and Meredith Kercher were not friends, they were flatmates. One of Meredith’s friends, a fellow British student studying in Perugia, has said..

    “the tensions between the two women, who shared a flat, had been building up for weeks. Miss Kercher was “frustrated” with the University of Washington student’s refusal to do her share of the cleaning, and felt uncomfortable that Knox kept a vibrator in a transparent wash bag in their shared bathroom. Relations were not improved by Knox’s insistence on strumming her guitar all the time”

    The real victim here was Meredith Kercher……and we should reserve our tears for her. “

    It was accepted and received many likes……then suddenly, at about 8.00 p.m. last night, it was rejected. There was nothing offensive or sensitive about this post. I can’t help feeling that there are moderators at the Oz…mainly young activists pretending to be journalists….all probably recent graduates from the Wendy Bacon and Jenna Price Schools of Journalism, who take a dislike to certain commentators.

  66. Top Ender

    Politically correct London becoming more nutty by the day
    LETTER FROM EUROPE

    GREG SHERIDAN

    If Boris Johnson does become British prime minister next month, he will surely challenge one of the most profound ideological movements in Europe today, and one which flowers in Britain perhaps more fully than anywhere else in the world. I refer, of course, to political correctness.

    Britain, or rather, more specifically London, is surely the political correctness capital of the world.

    I have been here a mere couple of weeks and I am positively dizzy from the blizzard of intersectional offence-taking, speech clipping, thought controlling, verbal over – regulation.

    The loss of Christian belief seems to have resulted in the imposition of the most excessive version of psychologically damaged pseudo-religious scruples.

    Let me offer you a few examples of PC purity, from the trivial to the ridiculous.

    A GCSE English exam included a short passage from a 1935 novella by HE Bates.

    The passage was unexceptional. But later in the story, not in the passage examined, a girl in domestic service is exploited and r aped by her employer.

    A Twitter storm erupted saying the examination paper should have had a trigger warning, and objecting to students being subjected to a story which included r ape.

    R ape is a serious and tragic business, but like other crimes it has often figured in literature. In any event, the popular culture is, to its vast detriment, saturated in stories of r ape. There were at least a dozen in every series of Game of Thrones, which was watched by millions of Brits. Therefore it was not really a question of anyone actually being offended by anything, it was a question of people searching out an offence against political correctness.

    And of course the exam authorities duly apologised for any distress they caused.

    Another exam, a maths paper this time, asked students to calculate the number of calories someone had consumed in a breakfast the paper described. The paper was roundly condemned for potentially causing distress to anyone who had struggled with body shape issues.

    Again, the hypocrisy is spectacular. Weight control programs are advertised all the time. But more than hypocrisy is the sheer psycho-silliness of the whole business.

    Comedy legend John Cleese recently issued a low-voltage tweet saying London did not seem to him any longer to be really an English city. He thought the city he grew up in was a bit nicer than the London of today.

    Now, as it happens, I’m more or less on the other side of this argument from Cleese. I like diversity. But Cleese’s calm, modest, perfectly lame tweet was condemned as though he had called for the slaughter of the innocents.

    There are many episodes far more serious than these. Some people lose jobs, others are silenced by fear. Jordan Peterson, the great Canadian writer and speaker, was about to undertake a fellowship at Cambridge to research the Book of Genesis. Somewhere on social media a photo was found of a fellow in a T-shirt with the logo “I’m an Islam ophobe” who had draped his arm around Peterson’s neck. There was no serious effort to inquire into the degree of Peterson’s complicity or otherwise in such views as the T-shirt conveyed. His fellowship, however, was dropped.

    Distinguished philosopher Roger Scruton lost a government appointment because of an outrageous misrepresentation of things he’d said in an interview with the wretched New Statesman. The whole point of the interview was to entice Scruton into saying something that would get him into trouble. The allegedly offending words, that Chinese people were robots, were misrepresented in the journalist’s report. Scruton had criticised the Chinese government for trying to control its people.

    But the allegedly conservative government of Theresa May sacked Scruton without even the most cursory inquiry into what he had actually said. I don’t think an Abbott, Turnbull or Morrison government would have done that.

    Often, too, there is a sinister political double standard to political correctness. A comedian on the BBC mocked demonstrators for throwing milkshakes at Nigel Farage and said they should use battery acid instead. This is genuinely shocking. It is a rare example of the kind of speech — incitement to violence — which should indeed be outlawed. But the BBC defended the comic, saying obviously no one would take the words seriously. Can you imagine a similar reaction if the object of the proposed acid attack were not a right-wing bogeyman but a member of some designated victim group?

    Sometimes London is just a bit ahead of us in social trends. Are we going to be as nutty as this one day? Many people think the PC stuff will get worse if Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn becomes prime minister. I’m not entirely sure that’s right. London isn’t the whole of Britain. The Brexit rebellion was cultural as much as political. And the Conservatives would likely be braver in opposition than they have been in government.

    They could hardly be less so.

    Entire article from the print edition of the Oz

  67. Nick

    The man who was assaulted at Heyington Railway Station on Saturday night has been named as Transit and Public Safety Command Assistant Commissioner Chris O’Neill.

    The high-ranking police officer is still in hospital following the bashing.

    The cowardly pair of thugs tormented a trainload of Melbourne passengers with uncouth behaviour before launching the attack.

    But woe betide any footy fans return home..

  68. Top Ender

    Is there a list of words not allowed on the Cat?

    Have just tried to post an article about PC going mad in London.

    Changed the r ape word and also an Isla m o p hobe to no avail.

  69. Is there a list of words not allowed on the Cat?

    Have just tried to post an article about PC going mad in London.

    The ironing!

  70. calli

    Ahahahah!

    Gotta love the Bibster!

    Rockets beware. One lobs in and you’ll get an ICBM in response.

  71. Infidel Tiger

    I read that yesterday Cassie.

    Even if Knox is innocent, she helped jail another innocent man and now she is speaking at wrongful conviction events? What a world.

  72. calli

    [Please don’t do this – I do not want those words to appear on the blog as they create work and hassle. Work arounds create even more work and hassle. Sinc]

  73. calli

    And don’t forget ther apists!

    It’s how Doomy works out Scrabble foes.

  74. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Countess, when I was 9 years old we lived in some of the early public housing in St Marys, and this was a very long time ago, before we moved to Mt Druitt. I still recall the one occasion when our gang of kids once spied a teacher walking in our street.

    It was as exciting and unusual as seeing entering our world an alien, or perhaps Spider Woman, that tormenter of Superman in the serials at the Sat’dy pictures, for we made up in imagination what we lacked in playthings. Word got out and we all followed her at a distance. We knew that people like her didn’t come into our area unless they had a secure ticket out. Miss Hooper especially. She wore a big hat and made us stand three feet away from her when ever she called us up to her desk.

  75. Top Ender

    Politically correct London becoming more nutty by the day
    LETTER FROM EUROPE

    GREG SHERIDAN

    If Boris Johnson does become British prime minister next month, he will surely challenge one of the most profound ideological movements in Europe today, and one which flowers in Britain perhaps more fully than anywhere else in the world. I refer, of course, to political correctness.

    Britain, or rather, more specifically London, is surely the political correctness capital of the world.

    I have been here a mere couple of weeks and I am positively dizzy from the blizzard of intersectional offence-taking, speech clipping, thought controlling, verbal over – regulation.

    The loss of Christian belief seems to have resulted in the imposition of the most excessive version of psychologically damaged pseudo-religious scruples.

    Let me offer you a few examples of PC purity, from the trivial to the ridiculous.

    A GCSE English exam included a short passage from a 1935 novella by HE Bates.

    The passage was unexceptional. But later in the story, not in the passage examined, a girl in domestic service is exploited and r aped by her employer.

    A Twitter storm erupted saying the examination paper should have had a trigger warning, and objecting to students being subjected to a story which included r ape.

    R ape is a serious and tragic business, but like other crimes it has often figured in literature. In any event, the popular culture is, to its vast detriment, saturated in stories of r ape. There were at least a dozen in every series of Game of Thrones, which was watched by millions of Brits. Therefore it was not really a question of anyone actually being offended by anything, it was a question of people searching out an offence against political correctness.

    And of course the exam authorities duly apologised for any distress they caused.

    Another exam, a maths paper this time, asked students to calculate the number of calories someone had consumed in a breakfast the paper described. The paper was roundly condemned for potentially causing distress to anyone who had struggled with body shape issues.

    Again, the hypocrisy is spectacular. Weight control programs are advertised all the time. But more than hypocrisy is the sheer psycho-silliness of the whole business.

    Comedy legend John Cleese recently issued a low-voltage tweet saying London did not seem to him any longer to be really an English city. He thought the city he grew up in was a bit nicer than the London of today.

    Now, as it happens, I’m more or less on the other side of this argument from Cleese. I like diversity. But Cleese’s calm, modest, perfectly lame tweet was condemned as though he had called for the slaughter of the innocents.

    There are many episodes far more serious than these. Some people lose jobs, others are silenced by fear. Jordan Peterson, the great Canadian writer and speaker, was about to undertake a fellowship at Cambridge to research the Book of Genesis. Somewhere on social media a photo was found of a fellow in a T-shirt with the logo “I’m an Isla mophobe” who had draped his arm around Peterson’s neck. There was no serious effort to inquire into the degree of Peterson’s complicity or otherwise in such views as the T-shirt conveyed. His fellowship, however, was dropped.

    Distinguished philosopher Roger Scruton lost a government appointment because of an outrageous misrepresentation of things he’d said in an interview with the wretched New Statesman. The whole point of the interview was to entice Scruton into saying something that would get him into trouble. The allegedly offending words, that Chinese people were robots, were misrepresented in the journalist’s report. Scruton had criticised the Chinese government for trying to control its people.

    But the allegedly conservative government of Theresa May sacked Scruton without even the most cursory inquiry into what he had actually said. I don’t think an Abbott, Turnbull or Morrison government would have done that.

    Often, too, there is a sinister political double standard to political correctness. A comedian on the BBC mocked demonstrators for throwing milkshakes at Nigel Farage and said they should use battery acid instead. This is genuinely shocking. It is a rare example of the kind of speech — incitement to violence — which should indeed be outlawed. But the BBC defended the comic, saying obviously no one would take the words seriously. Can you imagine a similar reaction if the object of the proposed acid attack were not a right-wing bogeyman but a member of some designated victim group?

    Sometimes London is just a bit ahead of us in social trends. Are we going to be as nutty as this one day? Many people think the PC stuff will get worse if Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn becomes prime minister. I’m not entirely sure that’s right. London isn’t the whole of Britain. The Brexit rebellion was cultural as much as political. And the Conservatives would likely be braver in opposition than they have been in government.

    They could hardly be less so.

    Entire article from the print edition of the Oz

  76. Top Ender

    Success!

    Thanks Calli!

  77. “Infidel Tiger
    #3044461, posted on June 17, 2019 at 10:24 am
    I read that yesterday Cassie.

    Even if Knox is innocent, she helped jail another innocent man and now she is speaking at wrongful conviction events? What a world.”

    Yes….and I am perplexed as to why it was taken down. I don’t know whether Knox is guilty or not but I feel strongly that she and her boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito were negligent and careless. And not just that…she prattles on about how she and Meredith Kercher were friends. That is bullshit and needs to be called out for the lie that it is. Meredith’s family and real friends in Perugia at the time dispute the Knox claims of “friendship”.

    And back to the comment being “rejected” after being up there for four hours…..I have a gut feeling that there are some moderators at the Oz who have a list of commentators that they don’t like and I’m one of them.

  78. Old School Conservative

    “Beware! Avalanche!”

    That’s better than the Australian local councils who put up confusing signs which say
    “Falling rocks do not stop”

  79. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ellie, I will have to return to your coming-of-age link when I have an internet connection that doesn’t throw me off the Cat when I try to keep up with anything but in-text comments. Will look forward to reading it A little secret – areff shared with me via email his own grand passion when hormonally just thirteen.

    I laughed and laughed. What strange creatures little human adolescents are to be sure.

  80. Leigh Lowe

    The CFMMMMEU and the ALP are on a war footing.
    The AFL is copping it from all quarters, including it’s normally tame broadcaster Channel Bruce.
    A Melbourne Cup field of Dimocrats are debating each other this week to prove their credentials as to which one is the most bat-shit crazy.
    Bill Shorten hasn’t been heard from for weeks.
    All in all, a tidy state of affairs.

  81. Re. Roger Scruton…..this is worth watching…a talk between Roger and the equally great and wonderful Douglas Murray…..the interview is about five weeks old….it comes after the disgraceful fascist purge and annihilation of Scruton…

  82. Nick

    A little secret – areff shared with me via email his own grand passion when hormonally just thirteen.

    Sadly, a secret no more.

  83. Ellie

    Hi Lizzie, I wasn’t linking to my story. That is locked away, shared only with those I trust. You are very brave. I admire you for that. I write too, but haven’t yet reached that level of bravery and confidence to share publicly. You inspire me.

    The link was to your Quady piece.

  84. calli

    I have a gut feeling that there are some moderators at the Oz who have a list of commentators that they don’t like and I’m one of them.

    Then you are in the Hall of Fame.

    I passed a peak today called “Edith Cavell”. And reflected that patriotism is indeed, not enough.

  85. Headline at the Oz……”Embattled union boss John Setka has threatened to legally challenge his expulsion from the Labor Party and halt all donations to the Opposition from his rogue branch of the construction union.”

    It’s just getting better. More popcorn please.

  86. I expect polite applause from the AFL crowd for this years, gender neutral, culturally aware Grand Final winners. Moderate volume calls of “Jolly good, old boy or girl!” will be permitted.

  87. C.L.

    I will be very interested to see the position the IPA and CIS take on this issue.

    They will serve their usual Neapolitan ice cream:

    1. Personal fweedom. (Chocolate).
    2. Whatever orthodox public Christians say, they’ll say the opposite. (Strawberry).
    3. No taxpayer subsidisation because they’re all, like, rigorous conservatives ‘n stuff. Vanilla.

  88. Nick

    The AFL is copping it from all quarters, including it’s normally tame broadcaster Channel Bruce.

    Leigh, you just hope that as the issue reaches boiling point, the AFL ameliorates issues with another virtue signaling round, followed by pontification.

  89. egg_

    ”Embattled union boss John Setka has threatened to legally challenge his expulsion from the Labor Party and halt all donations to the Opposition from his rogue branch of the construction union.”

    Labor denying their own Deplorable Fug roots?

  90. C.L.

    Well, I have a new respect for Freddy “Adolf” Fittler this morning.
    He has sacked half of the NSW Blues team, including the America-apeing anthem posers.

    Real Mark [email protected]

    Well done Freddy Fittler in dropping the two Anthem protestors Cody Walker and Latrell Mitchell.
    The Blues team environment requires a singular focus on footy, not a divisive, bullshit political protest.

  91. Bruce in WA

    I have a gut feeling that there are some moderators at the Oz who have a list of commentators that they don’t like …

    Oh, indutib … indupita … indubatab … absolutely!

  92. Knuckle Dragger

    I kinda, sorta feel sorry for the poor old Transit Assistant Commissioner. Going to and from work on trains so he can say how safe they are to Fatty and the meeja.

    And then being compelled to walk the walk.

    Train lemmings can be expected to be outnumbered ten to one by the transit jacks this week.

  93. egg_

    The AFL is copping it from all quarters, including it’s normally tame broadcaster Channel Bruce.

    With the gayest uniforms in global sport, what do you expect?
    Whereas the Umps wear Munchy Munchy Twisties coats.
    Bizarre.

  94. Somebody needs to organize the Collingwood cheer squad to wear “Behavioural Awareness Orificer” hi viz to their next MCG game.

  95. rugbyskier

    It was accepted and received many likes……then suddenly, at about 8.00 p.m. last night, it was rejected. There was nothing offensive or sensitive about this post. I can’t help feeling that there are moderators at the Oz…mainly young activists pretending to be journalists….all probably recent graduates from the Wendy Bacon and Jenna Price Schools of Journalism, who take a dislike to certain commentators.

    I found out an interesting bit of information from someone in the know. The Australian’s comments moderation is contracted out to a Canadian company. That explains a lot of the random moderation policy, the comments are vetted by people with no knowledge or understanding of Australian current affairs and politics.

  96. 1735099

    Even if Knox is innocent, she helped jail another innocent man, and now she is speaking at wrongful conviction events. What a world.

    Even if Pell is innocent, he helped maintain a culture where innocent children were abused. What a world.

  97. Knuckle Dragger

    Vic coppers have traditionally been allowed to ride public transport for free.

    The cost, of course, is that when you’re on the train and a gobby piece of shit needs reminding where his manners are, you get to do it. Whether on or off duty, in civvies and no gear. If that price is too steep, pay your fare and look the other way like (nearly) everyone else.

  98. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Another memory and a sort of confession. When I was seventeen I met a man I l,oved who became for a while my real ‘him’. He offered me his sandwich when I was pennyless and hungry on a Gold Coast beach. He was a well-known artist, eleven years older than me, and he became my lover. I was, for some short delirious months, his muse as well as amusement. He lived in a Sydney harbourside mansion. I went there often although we were never an item in public. He asked me one day, taking my chin in his hands, and twinkling his wise eyes at me, what is to become of you Little Beth? Will you become a sophisticate or an intellectual?

    I puzzled over that, for I thought you had to make a choice.
    The year was 1960.

    I think you can all stop the Hyacinth nonsense now.
    Hairy, by the way, is 10 years younger than me and is very proud still to take me out. We have been married for over 30 years.

  99. egg_

    “Beware! Avalanche!”

    That’s better than the Australian local councils who put up confusing signs which say
    “Falling rocks do not stop”

    “Koalas Cross” is another good one.
    P1ssed at being constanly run over?

  100. calli

    he helped maintain a culture where innocent children were abused

    Prove it. Prove knowledge of ongoing abuse. Prove ignoring abuse.

    By your measure, I could be imprisoned and so could you.

  101. 1735099

    Including the American-aping anthem poseurs…..

    They were exercising their right to freedom of expression.
    IIRC, so was Israel Folau.

  102. egg_

    Is there a recipe for Koala roadkill pie?
    Tastes of Eucalyptus?

  103. cohenite

    And back to the comment being “rejected” after being up there for four hours…..I have a gut feeling that there are some moderators at the Oz who have a list of commentators that they don’t like and I’m one of them.

    Good for you Cassie. This is about the only place I can vent now since The Climate Sceptics blog is taking a well earned rest (although I still loiter at Jo’s and Jennifer’s); and sometime I know I’m skating on thin ice here. As they say the process is the punishment and getting a AHRC complaint is not something I would wish on anyone.

  104. Methinks the numeric one may have just uttered some actionable words.
    Freedom of speech has a fine print catch. “You may have to pay for it.”

  105. calli

    Lizzie, you worry too much.

    I’m a Cabramatta girl. And I have a set of Coalport that I never use. Even a soup tureen!

    I’m more Hyacinth than youse!

  106. Is there a recipe for Koala roadkill pie?

    No.
    But I do have a recipe for possum that has been fried on the electricity transformer.

  107. Stimpson J. Cat

    When I was seventeen I met a man I l,oved who became for a while my real ‘him’. He offered me his sandwich when I was pennyless and hungry on a Gold Coast beach.

    Artists attract artists, what can I say.
    😁

  108. Anyone recall George Pell falsely accusing some other person of abusing children? I don’t.

    And come to think of it….if you apply the Jooo hating bird shitter’s standard…and of course the only standard the Jooo hating bird shitter has is one never ending double standard….then every Catholic priest and every Catholic parishioner is guilty of maintaining and participating in a culture where innocent children were abused.

    Does the Jooo hating bird shitter apply the same standard to Islaaaaaaaaaaaam?

  109. Notafan

    Funny skinning yet another version of my beautiful life.

    All those flustered explanations about early primary school children left for months with others make sense now.

    They were lies.

  110. Mother Lode

    Now, as it happens, I’m more or less on the other side of this argument from Cleese.

    Hey, I like John Cleese. But he as to admit to being complicit (intentionally or not) in what has happened to Britain. He gleefully mocked and derided its institutions, its culture and its history. All in good fun, of course, but there was never in his comedy or outside any sense of appreciation for these things. When he was younger in his Monty Python days it is fair enough that he be intoxicated by youth and the opportunity he was given, but until recently he maintained silence.

    As for Sheridan saying he likes diversity, for my part anyone who expresses themselves like that is either a complete political nonce or someone who feels they have to put speak that way.

    I can understand enjoying variety (which carries a sense of a range to your taste) or even novelty (which again summons a feeling of things that will excite your interest), but diversity is just a buzzword which is used as meaning ‘many types justified purely by being many types’. We can see diversity it poisons, but we would not call it variety unless we were planning to take them.

    Diversity is one of those new words that has been completely divorced from humanity and human experience, but we are required to use it as if it is the highest thing in this world.

  111. Ellie

    I failed maths, but that makes you 76, Lizzie? More power to you!

  112. Notafan

    There is no silence. the Vatican just made a significant statement on gender issues and

    archbishop of Melbourne statement on euthanasia laws this weekend.

  113. Notafan

    You don’t see them because the MSM tends not to publish them.

    They are not profitable.

  114. egg_

    he as to admit to being complicit (intentionally or not) in what has happened to Britain.

    Old Lefties bemoaning what they’ve sown?
    Ditto Germaine Greer.

  115. egg_

    a recipe for possum that has been fried on the electricity transformer.

    Possum on a stick?

  116. Notafan

    Archbishop Pell did no such thing.

    In his innocence and his lowly place as a young priest he lived with what he knew to be homosexual men.

    He passed a single very informal complaint to the appropriate person.

    Like any normal person when he realised, many years later, that insufficient action had taken place, he wished he had done more.

  117. egg_

    Cat Behavioural Awareness Officer

    Old Salt, the race baiter?

  118. Sinclair Davidson

    … and not an intellectual sophisticate?

  119. egg_

    Catallaxian politically correct orthodoxy.

    “Put up a decent argument or show us yer tits”?
    M0nster loses every time, tart.

  120. Possum on a stick?

    Yep. The fur is removed by the high temperature and if you are lucky it is pre-marinated with polychlorinated biphenyls .

  121. calli

    I am so very sorry, Sinclair. I was trying to help Top Ender understand how innocent words will trip up the filter.

    I would rather chew ground glass than cause you work or worry. But you know that.

  122. Nick

    Sinc, what do you think of the AFL’s crackdown ?

  123. Nick

    Note to self ‘headslap’

  124. Is there a recipe for Koala roadkill pie?
    Tastes of Eucalyptus?

    According to an article I read, koalas hang more or less upside down to pee. By the time they reach adulthood they not only stink of stale pee, it has permeated their skin and they taste of it too.

    Apparently it’s heir biggest single defence against some predators.

  125. Ellie

    Hello Doomlord, Master, Sir

  126. Sinclair Davidson

    It’s very Orwellian. Quite dumb actually.

  127. New Essendon theme song:

    See the Bombers behave in a socially correct manner!
    See the Bombers behave in a socially correct manner!
    and be awarded social credits and a flag,

  128. Sinclair Davidson

    Morning Ellie. Are you well?

  129. Ellie

    Q&A is on tonight, Doomlord.

  130. Ellie

    Yes Doomlord. Very well, thank you.

  131. Sinclair Davidson

    Yes – I have coded the Q&A thread to appear at 9pm.

    I nearly forgot last week 🙁 luckily I was reminded.

  132. feelthebern

    I kinda, sorta feel sorry for the poor old Transit Assistant Commissioner. Going to and from work on trains so he can say how safe they are to Fatty and the meeja.

    No doubt his attackers were watching Skynews prior to their outburst.

  133. calli

    I shall retire, chastened, to the Extremely Naughty Corner (reserved for Helpful Idiots).

    I may be away for some time.

  134. Ellie

    May need vodka to get through the show. I badly want to win Carpe’s arseless chaps. It’s the only reason I watch.

  135. Sinclair Davidson

    I shall retire, chastened, to the Extremely Naughty Corner

    No don’t do that. The whole of the Cat is a naughty corner.

  136. Ellie

    No don’t do that. The whole of the Cat is a naughty corner.

    MV and I are still there. 😁

  137. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Nick, quit the carping. Areff was once a gormless thirteen year old adolescent, as were we all. That is the only part of his tale you know, so I do not see this as any breach of trust.

  138. Sinclair Davidson

    MV and I are still there.

    Yes. Well. I didn’t want to mention that. 🙂

  139. Stimpson J. Cat

    May need vodka to get through the show. I badly want to win Carpe’s arseless chaps. It’s the only reason I watch.

    Absolut is great Elle.

  140. Nick

    Lizzie, if medals were awarded for indiscretion, you’d have a VC by now.

  141. feelthebern

    Dear Lord its Flannerying hard in Sydney town right now.
    Quick get the children.
    They won’t know what it is.

  142. Old Lefty

    On the Pell case, see Keith Windschuttle’s corker of a piece at Quadrant Online this morning.

    Is being legally three-handed a state shared by other enemies of the regime in Yarragrad?

  143. Ellie

    Stimpson. A touching vodka ad. Noice and inclusive.

  144. egg_

    I badly want to win Carpe’s arseless chaps. It’s the only reason I watch.

    Terri Butler’s schoolgirl pout does it for me.

  145. Woolfe

    apists

    Will be banned under the Goodes rule.

  146. Ellie

    Westie Women won the chaps a couple of weeks ago. They’ve been returned in top condition.

    Carpe, darling, are you about?

  147. egg_

    Is there a picture of Goodes next to Fugly in the dictionary?

  148. calli

    On moderation at the Oz being farmed out to Canadians…

    I have just watched them castrate a horse on prime time tv.

    I think they might have their priorities mixed up. Or maybe not…

  149. Infidel Tiger

    76 and still has perky tits?

    Creative writing class just went off the rails.

  150. calli

    Bother. Back to The Corner.

    I have no self control.

  151. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    77 next month, Elle. And still chuffed by the young female engineer at the Captain’s private party last night, who when I told her this re my upcoming birthday, did a double-take and said No! I wouldn’t have put you at even sixty!

    Good genes, Ellie, plus a dancer’s trained body, and some very expensive secrets that don’t come under medicare. Face only though, Helen Merrin as a guide, and never ever overdone. I also thoroughly disapprove of fake assets, and as David Flint did comment recently, my decolletage still doesn’t let me down. No wrinkly skin there either, and that is definitely just my Nordic genes.

    So now you know but be a dear and don’t tell a soul. 😀

  152. Boambee John

    Even if Pell is innocent, he helped maintain a culture where innocent children were abused. What a world.

    Seagull [email protected] all over the thread, and in the process shows its total, absolute, ignorance of the actions the Cardinal took to root out that culture.

    I suppose the Catholic church in Toowoomba is too disconnected from reality to have been aware of those actions.

  153. Ellie

    Lizzie, you go girl! Work the cougar! I have it on good authority you look 20 years younger … and no push up bra needed. Blessed.

  154. Nick

    nope, not going to say anything…

  155. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Even if

    Usually a segue to lies.

  156. MV and I are still there.

    Yeah, but it’s getting too bloody crowded.
    I think it’s time for us to find somewhere else – more private . . .

    Good afternoon Elle.

  157. stackja

    The private very angry today.

  158. Ellie

    Good afternoon, MV.
    A crowded naughty corner could have its benefits.
    🤔

  159. calli

    Get your own corner. This one’s taken.

  160. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Damcer’s figure not being assisted by the yummy food on this cruise. I shall have to speak very firmly to my tummy on our return and do 3 dance classes a week. On board Hairy and I are doing the classes in Cha-cha and Quickstep. Easier than Tango, which we tried in Argentina.

    Today we shuffled off not this mortal coil but the safety and security of the Queen Elizabeth to entrust our lives to an aluminium catamaran which crash through an ice floe field up to the base of the massive 6 mile wide by 76 mile long by 450 ft high above water and 300 foot deep below water Hubbatd Glacier.

    Thank God we were spared ‘the lecture’ mutters Hairy. They can’t make much of a case here, because this glacier has been so steadily in advance in recent years it is nicknamed The Galloping Glacier. You do win a few.

  161. Bruce of Newcastle

    Politically correct London becoming more nutty by the day

    Yes. Yes it is.

    U.K. Police’s Plan to Tackle Domestic Abuse: Blunt Knives (14 Jun)

    Yep, these are sure to save us from knife crime.

  162. Get your own corner. This one’s taken.

    OI!!

    We were here first.

  163. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Just received an email that Hairy’s longest term friend whom we kunched with onky weeks ago thinking him in rude health has been hospitalized after mild breathlessness, found to be too far gone in the coronary piping for stents, and sent for an immediate triple bypass.

    Carpe diem, indeed

  164. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Be quiet there children. No talking in the naughty corner or you lose your ipads for a week.

    That’ll learn youse.

  165. calli

    Speaking of glaciers, both the Rockies and beyond, there’s this over at the Sultan’s.

    Political advocacy indeed. Read it. The evidence of my own eyes today supports it.

  166. Sinclair Davidson

    Lizzie – the tour guide types were giving us the hard-sell environment crap when we were there a few weeks ago. It does get a bit much.

  167. Percy Popinjay:

    This is beyond parody. It’s almost unbelievable there are sanctimonious busybody wankers who would willingly be seen in public acting in such a “role”.

    Take a good close look at them, Percy.
    They will look like normal characters you meet on a daily basis.
    They aren’t. These are the ones who become Gestapo/Allgemeine-SS.

  168. Robert Mc

    When I was seventeen … The year was 1960.

    So, born in 1943. Turning 76 this year. That’s 10 years older than I thought. Lots of time to imagine and re-imagine stuff in that many years.

    He asked me one day … what is to become of you Little Beth?

    And now, in your dotage, you have achieved a measure of fame in “The Ballad of Grigor and Beth“, Mother Lode’s best and only notable literary work.

  169. Seco

    I did a public service today. A couple of young guys from foreign shores were manning a stand trying to fleece naive but well meaning people of money for the UNHCR. I spent a couple of minutes taking him through the below news article because, of course, he had absolutely no idea about it.

  170. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That glacier is Hubbard, as in cupboard.

    My pik one-finger ryping is rivaling None’s speech recognition in spite of my due care and attention.

    All that learning to be a whiz typist and my skills are redundant in a flash of LCD.

  171. Ellie

    I would like to come to the next Cat catch up in Sydney, if that’s ok.

  172. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ryping! The one that got away.

  173. Peter

    450 above and 300 below Lizzie? Isn’t there normally ten times as much below the surface?

  174. Seco

    Dammit! Hopeless at linking.

    A WHISTLE blower has claimed UN staff could have carried out 60,000 rapes in the last decade as aid workers indulge in sex abuse unchecked around the world.
    The claim is in a bombshell dossier that former senior United Nations official Andrew Macleod handed over to DFID Secretary Priti Patel last year.

    In it, Professor Macleod also estimated there are 3,300 paedophiles working for the world body’s various agencies alone.

    Thousands more “predatory” sex abusers specifically target aid charity jobs to get close to vulnerable women and children.

    And there has been an “endemic” cover-up of the sickening crimes for two decades, with those who attempt to blow the whistle just getting fired.

    Sharing his dossier with The Sun, Prof MacLeod last night warned that the spiralling abuse scandal was on the same scale as the Catholic Church’s.

  175. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    More power to the AFL’s elbow.
    I stopped taking my kids to stadium sport when they were little because I got tired of them being exposed to anti-social behaviour by boozy attention seeking bogans – probably the of the same ignorant ilk, some of whom post here.
    They never learned basic good manners, and probably never will.
    They should not be inflicted on reasonable people.

    Hey. We live in a society.

  176. Seco

    Article from UK paper The Sun, Feb 2018.

  177. Peter

    Unless the ice is not floating of course🤔

  178. calli

    We got “the lecture” when we were out at the Little Reef That Could” a couple of years ago. It was dying and humans were causing it.

    “Why did you take our money to bring us here?” asked the Beloved innocently.

    *crickets*

  179. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Forget about Cecil the Lion

    ‘Murica, FUCK YEAH

    and…

    EATING A GODDAMNED COUGAR, RICKY BOBBY

    A collective gulp was almost detectable this week when California Fish and Game Commission President Daniel Richards defiantly declared to outraged legislators that he not only gunned down a mountain lion and held the carcass like a trophy, but he then ate big cat for dinner.

    “It doesn’t taste like chicken,” he told conservative talk radio hosts John and Ken in Los Angeles. “The closest thing is pork loin. It’s a white meat. It’s really good, and actually in frontier times it was a delicacy because it’s tough to bag one of them.”

  180. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’s always been open house at our place, Ellie, on such occasions. I will ensure the pub meister gets your request.

    Tinta and Cassie are the main Kittehs in attendance.
    My view is the more the merrier.

  181. John Constantine

    Their abc preaches from their billion dollar bully pulpit that yarragrads coal power stations are unreliable, as they are reporting outages and breakdowns.

    Their abc unable to conceptualise ‘Angel Hours’ where the plants owners are told the days are numbered and their social license will soon be stripped, therefore they stop paying for upgrades and simply patch up upon direct failure.

    Stupid to paint the house and restump it when it will be bulldozed flat by Christmas.

    Comrades.

  182. Mark from Melbourne

    Nick
    #3044425, posted on June 17, 2019 at 9:48 am

    a small card directing them what to shout.

    There are many genders

    Womens’ football is the best

    … and right there you have encapsulated the absolute inanity of progressivism… If there are many genders, how on Earth can they talk about “women’s” football?

    You really do have to park your brain to be woke.

  183. pete m

    Glacier are on land Peter, until they meet water / form a lake.

  184. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Only when it is floating as a floe or iceberg I think, Peter, where about 70 to 80% is submerged. When it is grinding its way down a river course thickness is variable but but is hardly floating. This huge wall of ice is like that which covered Scotland and hakf of England during the last real Ice Age.

    Seeing this vast northern landscape writing large the geological history of the planet is like being in an observatory in terms of impact; we are a small and puny species, a blip in time’s weft and warp.

    Live it well, according to your lights

    ‘For the darkness comprehendeth it not’

  185. MatrixTransform

    You really do have to park your brain to be woke.

    all men are bastards / women are equal to men

  186. John Constantine

    Victorians consume more heroin, MDMA and oxycodone than other Australians.

    The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission’s seventh report of the National Wastewater Drug Monitoring Program, shows Victoria has the highest average capital city consumption and second highest average regional consumption of heroin nationally, and the highest average regional consumption of MDMA and oxycodone.

  187. Nick

    “Why did you take our money to bring us here?” asked the Beloved innocently.

    Exactly

  188. Roger

    Albanese protesting piously that a security contract for Manus & Nauru was not put out to tender.

    “This is tax payers’ money we’re talking about!”

    Fair point.

    Unfortunately for Albo there’s a few inconvenient truths he’s overlooked:

    1. Labor has zero credibility when it pledges concern for spending tax payers’ money wisely, as the last election campaign demonstrated.

    2. We wouldn’t have country shoppers stuck on Manus & Nauru if Labor hadn’t dismantled maritime border controls.

    3. The issue is not on the radar of the average voter. By all means follow it up in parliament, but that’s a press conference wasted.

  189. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Snap Pete, allowing for iphone agonies.

    Time to start dressing for dinner soon. Where’s my Lady’s Maid and Hairy’s valet? Selecting which diamonds to take from the safe and the clasps secured on the neck won’t just magically happen plus deciding on the elements of couture . . let alone choosing the shoes and purse. Hairy’s awkward cufflinks done up won’t do themselves up either, and he can get qyite irritated with my fumbles over those….

    Yesterday we were both lying on our bed watching Bob Hope, Bing Crosby and Dorothy Lamour in the featured movie Road to Utopia, their take on the Klondike, set in Skagway. Silly but ancient fun. Hairy then looks at the time and tells me we have 15 minutes to be ready for the invitation he’s waving to that Captain’s Cocjtail Party

    Speed dressing from a near naked standing start ensues. I grab my most uncrushable cocktail dress, step into some heels, slap on the lippy, decide wild hair will be tonight’s look, and we’re off.

    We made it on time too, so that Hairy could flush more than one waiter’s tray of its best champagne before the stampede thickened.

  190. Geriatric Mayfly

    After the glaciers come the rivers. They sort out the haphazard jumble of glacial debris. Chunks of mountain rounded and rounded again to pebbles, silt and sand. No sharp angles shall pass. Messy moraines slowly consumed and glacial vestiges are spread out in stratified orderliness. Until the next glacial advance that is.

  191. Seco

    John Constantine
    #3044633, posted on June 17, 2019 at 12:44 pm
    Victorians consume more heroin, MDMA and oxycodone than other Australians.

    The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission’s seventh report of the National Wastewater Drug Monitoring Program, shows Victoria has the highest average capital city consumption and second highest average regional consumption of heroin nationally, and the highest average regional consumption of MDMA and oxycodone.

    Yes John, but on 3aw this morning it was deemed as an even greater reason to justify the existence of the Richmond Shooting Gallery.

  192. Percy Popinjay

    Victorians consume more heroin, MDMA and oxycodone than other Australians

    Thank you, Cap’n Obvious.

  193. Geriatric Mayfly

    and the highest average regional consumption of MDMA and oxycodone.

    Had that a couple of times and on the box it says Controlled Drug. In hospital two nurses tick off its administration. So where do these whackos get it from? ( Excuse my naiveté)

  194. 1735099

    The private very angry today.

    Not angry – bored.
    St Andrews oncology ward is a very boring place.
    My bride is amazed (and amused) at the crap posted here.
    Laughing carefully helps relieve the boredom and lifts the mood during chemo.
    It has to be careful so the portacath isn’t disturbed.

  195. Geriatric Mayfly

    Victorians consume more heroin, MDMA and oxycodone than other Australians

    Had a couple of encounters with oxy. On the box it says Controlled Drug, and in hospital two nurses tick off its administration. Where do these whackos get it from. (Pardon my naiveté)

  196. Geriatric Mayfly

    Test. The memory hole is hungry.

  197. Geriatric Mayfly

    Victorians consume more heroin, MDMA and oxycodone than other Australians

    Have had a couple of encounters with oxy. On the packet it says Controlled Drug. In hospital two nurses tick off its administration. So where do these multitudes get it from? (Pardon my naiveté)

  198. max

    a culture where innocent children were abused

    It’s astonishing how many people believe this. The ABC and The Age sell it incessantly.

    And it’s untrue.

  199. John Constantine:

    The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission’s seventh report of the National Wastewater Drug Monitoring Program, shows Victoria has the highest average capital city consumption and second highest average regional consumption of heroin nationally, and the highest average regional consumption of MDMA and oxycodone.

    Uh huh.
    Now tell us about Canberra.
    I Ferkin Derya.

  200. Rebel with cause

    Australia is awash in illegal pills and illicit prescription medication, but try to buy perfectly legal cold & flu tablets and you will be treated like a criminal by the chemist.

  201. Mother Lode

    a culture where innocent children were abused

    Sorry I missed the earlier part of the conversation.

    We talking public schools, right?

  202. Diogenes

    So where do these multitudes get it from? (Pardon my naiveté)

    Step dad had 20 packets ( lung cancer*) – went out for lunch and unit broken into & only the oxy was gone

    *never smoked a day in his life .. was a secondary from a secondary (ie melanoma on top of head -> neck lymph nodes -> lungs)

  203. Bruce of Newcastle

    Speaking of such things (ice, not pelicans 😀 )…

    Glenn K. Beaton: Aspen’s warnin’ warminites are chillin’ (Aspen Times, 15 Jun)

    Remember those predictions that polar bears and snow would soon be extinct?

    Well, here in Aspen and throughout the Colorado mountains, snowpack this spring is nearly 500% of normal. That’s not a typo. It’s almost five times normal.

    The ski mountain at Aspen has reopened for skiing every weekend in June, including this weekend. Even the locals — a pretty discerning bunch — say we had a season beyond epic.

    None of the growing polar bear population has been sighted in Aspen, yet, but the black bears often seen in town must be getting nervous.

    Plenty of summer skiing to be had in the US of A this season. Mammoth Mountain is expected to be open until late August.

  204. Johno

    The Condescending Conscript strikes again.

    Complete tool.

  205. Roger

    It’s astonishing how many people believe this. The ABC and The Age sell it incessantly.

    Repeat a lie often enough…

    Six myths about clergy sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

  206. Woolfe

    Paywallian Headline:

    Setka threatens to pull Labor donations

    Setka is an honorary Cat , Escalate, always escalate.

  207. EvilElvis

    So where do these multitudes get it from?

    Following…

  208. Leigh Lowe

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3044553, posted on June 17, 2019 at 11:43 am
    I shall retire, chastened, to the Extremely Naughty Corner
    No don’t do that. The whole of the Cat is a naughty corner.

    Administered by a BALD HEADED FLOG!
    I feel a chant coming on for the footy …
    Bald head flog ..
    (Clap, clap, clap)
    Bald head flog ..
    (Clap, clap, clap)
    Bald head flog ..
    (Clap, clap, clap)

  209. Stimpson J. Cat

    76 and still has perky tits?
    Creative writing class just went off the rails.

    Why are you all so old?
    I am literally the only hot male stripper/interpretive dancer/artist in this building.
    Is this what happens to Libertarians?

  210. What I can’t understand is that if you really believe an institution was riddled to the core with a culture which allowed innocent children to be abused, then why would you want to have anything to do with such an institution? The truth is is that the Catholic Church is not riddled with this kind of abuse and he knows it. And yet this same peanut loves to spruik the fact that he goes to Sunday Mass and that his local Catholic Church is so inclusive. He is a hypocrite, a dissembler and a phoney.

  211. Nick

    Administered by a BALD HEADED FLOG!

    Lol, manners didn’t permit me to say that.

  212. “Woolfe
    #3044676, posted on June 17, 2019 at 1:48 pm
    Paywallian Headline:

    Setka threatens to pull Labor donations

    Setka is an honorary Cat , Escalate, always escalate.”

    Yep…I’m loving it.

  213. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    No takers on the catamount stew.

    Oh well.

    Rebel with cause
    #3044663, posted on June 17, 2019 at 1:32 pm

    Australia is awash in illegal pills and illicit prescription medication, but try to buy perfectly legal cold & flu tablets and you will be treated like a criminal by the chemist.

    Calli…just for you Aunt Calli.

    🤡🌎

  214. egg_

    Their abc unable to conceptualise ‘Angel Hours’ where the plants owners are told the days are numbered and their social license will soon be stripped, therefore they stop paying for upgrades and simply patch up upon direct failure.

    In Their Service Economy, fairies do the maintenance in glorious squalor.

  215. egg_

    Setka is an honorary Cat

    Playing Batty teh Frightbat with a straight bat, touche!

  216. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hilarity.

    Joshua McElwee
    @joshjmac
    Can anyone at #USCCB19 confirm if retired Kansas City Bishop Finn took part in the vote on whether to give the US bishops’ conference authority to sanction retired bishops who mishandled clergy abuse?

    Christopher White
    @cwwhite212
    Yes–Bishop Robert Finn, the only U.S. bishop to be convicted of the crime of failure to report a priest suspected of abuse to civil authorities–who has been in attendance at #USCCB19, was in the room for this vote.

    U.S. hierarchy stop short of mandating lay involvement in bishop accountability

  217. ABC headline

    Are super or retirement changes in store?

    Read the whole article carefully.

    And don’t claim you weren’t warned this was going to happen after the election, regardless of which faction of the Socialist Progressive Uniparty “won”.

    Next on the agenda: –
    Effective elimination of independents and small parties from future federal elections.

  218. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Many social media profile pictures have been turning blue. If you guessed it’s another wave of virtue-signalling, you’re correct. But this time around the virtue doesn’t seem to be entirely misplaced.

    Pro-Pakistani gives a superficial explanation:

    the BlueForSudan trend is aimed at highlighting the protests against the military regime of a transitional military council. … On 3rd June, 26-year-old Mohamed Hashim Mattar was shot dead by the Rapid Support Forces during a peaceful protest in Khartoum.

    Those who are taking part in spreading #BlueForSudan. The color blue came from a warm hearted, martyrs known as, Mohammed Hashim Mattar, my cousin who has passed away on the 3rd of June, as he was standing proud. Blue was his fav color, which now presents unity.🇸🇩
    Mattar’s Blue pic.twitter.com/MdZ7f2sLwS — OmerYousiff (@OmerYousifff) June 12, 2019

    His death has further strengthened the movement and the activists and social media influencers from across the globe have put up blue profile pictures to show solidarity with the Sudanese and urge the media and world leaders to pressurize the Sudanese military to stop the long-going rampant human rights violations.

    The protests are composed of various opposition groups which range all the way from the innocuous-sounding Sudanese Professionals Association (the trade unions of the intelligentsia) all the way down to the Ba’ath Party and the Communists. The statement by the SPA sounds fairly middle-of-the-road. If you had to back any side in the ensuing power vacuum you could do a lot worse than this gang. It will mean the deplorables will also get a seat at the table but probably not a balance of power.

    The cynical take (as always) is easy to arrive at.

    Hang on… a cabinet of ministers with competence and integrity who truly represent the opinions of broader society and can rebuild a divided country is supposed to be our number one priority… for Sudan?? Mate we can’t even manage to do that in Australia. When the Sudanese have figured that out maybe they can send some wise advisors to the LNP.

  219. Top Ender

    a small card directing them what to shout

    I had one of those in the war.

    No, sorry, it was “a small card directing them what to shoot“.

    About as silly.

  220. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Oh,FFS, straight in the moderation bin. I forgot the author of the tweet I quoted is named Mo’.

    By the time it gets out of moderation the conversation will have moved on, nobody will see my comment, and so CatallaxyFiles is worse than censorship because at least censorship has a stated reason.

  221. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Stimpy

    Misprison of felony is a bad law, misprison of suspicion is worse.

    You know in Victoria it is probably a crime if you as a teacher, fail to report another teacher who in the past may have given a starving kid from a poor family a meat pie “because grooming” and retrospective laws?

    This is the kind of society we are headed towards. One where obeying the law doesn’t matter because disobeying the law may end up having the same expected value after the fact.

  222. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    CatallaxyFiles is worse than censorship because at least censorship has a stated reason.

    No, around here, the reason is that censorship is for your own good.

    This is a family blog after all.

  223. This is a family blog after all.

    Any blog which has posts from Foghorn Leghorn has to be a family blog.

  224. zyconoclast

    Uh huh.
    Now tell us about Canberra.
    I Ferkin Derya.

    From 2017
    CANBERRA’S not just the national capital, it’s also now a contender for the drug capital.
    Tests on Australian Capital Territory waste water have found methylamphetamine — sometimes known as “crank” — remains popular, but cocaine is challenging its top spot.
    And rising strongly is the use of ecstasy and “hillbilly heroin”.

    Wastewater analysis reveals Canberra drug use spiked over summer

  225. Mother Lode

    What I can’t understand is that if you really believe an institution was riddled to the core with a culture which allowed innocent children to be abused, then why would you want to have anything to do with such an institution?

    Ah, we are talking about public schools.

  226. By the time it gets out of moderation . . .

    Sorry mate.
    Around here “awaiting moderation” isn’t an annoying delay, it’s a death sentence.

  227. Mother Lode

    Ah, forgot the link before re: EATING A GODDAMNED COUGAR

    Seems a bit much.

    Maybe they are just lonely and need young lads to make them feel they are still as sexy as society expects of single women – anything not to feel old and fading.

    Still, if she is up for it and you have a cannibalistic bent, who am I to judge?

  228. JC

    With socialism, you don’t just run out of OPM, you also run out of money to pay to print the money.

    De La Rue PLC
    De La Rue takes £18m hit as Venezuela fails to pay its bill
    Banknote printer warns profits for 2020 will be lower as it announces that its chief is leaving

    May 30, 2019 6:49 am by Philip Georgiadis in London
    De La Rue has taken an £18m hit after the Venezuelan central bank failed to pay its bills, helping to send shares in the banknote printer tumbling as the company also announced the departure of its chief executive and warned on the outlook for profits.

    Venezuela, which is facing economic meltdown and saw inflation hit 130,000 per cent last year, had previously been a “very good” customer, said Martin Sutherland, chief executive, until US sanctions against the South American country made it harder for the central bank to transfer money.

    “We are in constant contact with the customer, they really do want to pay that debt,” said Helen Willis, chief financial officer.

  229. Robert Mc

    Ah, forgot the link before re: EATING A GODDAMNED COUGAR

    Seems a bit much.

    Maybe they are just lonely and need young lads to make them feel they are still as sexy as society expects of single women – anything not to feel old and fading.

    Still, if she is up for it and you have a cannibalistic bent, who am I to judge?

    Muff Pie a la Mode. Whole episodes of Sex and the City were devoted to it. Probably not really a healthy pursuit for the elderly here, but … Myra Breckenridge.

  230. Pedro the Ignorant

    Your trivia for the day.

    On this day, 17 June in 1893, Paddy Hannan first registered his gold claim at Mt Charlotte WA, the site that later became the city of Kalgoorlie Boulder and the Superpit which has produced untold wealth for Australia and continues to do so today.

    Within six days of Paddy’s claim being filed over 1000 expectant gold prospectors were busy grubbing in the dirt all the way from the existing goldfields at Coolgardie to Mt Charlotte and beyond. The old boys tell the stories of nuggets as big as peanuts just lying around on the top of the ground (aka “sunbathers”).

    It was mandatory to report gold finds to the government in those days, but the official figures for those early finds are probably about 20% true. Even back then, miners didn’t trust the government.

    Prospectors are bigger liars than fishermen.

  231. Colonel Crispin Berka

    the reason is that censorship is for your own good.

    Yeah, that’s always been the reason everywhere.

  232. Pedro the Ignorant

    More trivia.

    When Paddy Hannan registered his claim in 1893, the spot price of gold was A$27.52 per ounce.

    Today’s spot price is A$1950.45 per ounce.

  233. What I can’t understand is that if you really believe an institution was riddled to the core with a culture which allowed innocent children to be abused, then why would you want to have anything to do with such an institution?

    The “institution” is not the church.
    The “institution” is a façade being eaten from the inside by clericalism.
    The church is the laity.
    Slowly but surely, the power of the laity is overwhelming clerical corruption.
    Let’s hope it’s not too late.

  234. Stimpson J. Cat

    Anyone still against the death penalty?
    Yes.
    I am sure if they were given life imprisonment the other girls would ensure that they have an enjoyable and pleasant time.
    I have faith in Women.

  235. Bruce in WA

    Are super or retirement changes in store?

    Anyone who thought otherwise should have their photo printed in the dictionary under “naive”.

    It was a lay-down misère.

  236. feelthebern

    Anyone still against the death penalty?

    JC, apparently there is evidence that Trump made her do it.

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