Open Forum: June 15, 2019

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  1. feelthebern

    Are super or retirement changes in store?

    If you don’t tax arb in Oz, you have been living on the government teat.

  2. Infidel Tiger

    When Paddy Hannan registered his claim in 1893, the spot price of gold was A$27.52 per ounce.

    Today’s spot price is A$1950.45 per ounce.

    That’s terrible. Hasn’t kept pace with inflation.

  3. Sinclair Davidson

    Censorship around here is for my amusement.

  4. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Yes beloved dear sir, hence for our own good.

  5. feelthebern

    numbers probably is a fan-boy of Mulkearns.
    In a just world, Mulkearns would have been dragged down the street by his testicles & then lynched by a mob of those he oversaw the abuse of.

  6. Stimpson J. Cat

    Censorship around here is for my amusement.

    Well I for one find it incredibly amusing.
    Keep up the good work, and don’t listen to these Sane Sooks!!!

  7. Colonel Crispin Berka

    OK this is the most ridiculous thing I have read today.

    Only that one soldier got punished? Yes that is ridiculous. Collective punishment of the whole squad for the misdeeds of one is the norm in armies. You don’t run an army on laissez faire libertarianism after all.

  8. thefrollickingmole

    Thousands more “predatory” sex abusers specifically target aid charity jobs to get close to vulnerable women and children.

    This is true for every institution which gives adults status or control over vulnerable people.
    The sensible thing to do is to cull the predators, not cull the institutions, many of which were created because its a shit of a job anyway.

    Ive mentioned before a coupe of interactions with child protection and it was shithouse, Friday arvo/kid being fiddled/not my problem.
    Friday arvo/Kid nearly dead from abuse/not my problem.

    All a predator has to do is to be willing to expose himself as trying to fix or mitigate the crap people put thier kids through and he has a bevvy of victims lined up already.

  9. Val Majkus

    loved the Good Intentions Paving Company in Quadrant Online … a para from it to tease

    Governments can be made to look very, very stupid when they decide to go big in what they see as the national interest. Mercifully, there are also candidate programs and causes which, luckily, don’t quite make it. Think “living wage”, or the various recent assaults targetting negative gearing. The creation of an Australian national broadcaster and its inevitable growth into a behemoth responsible for odious and widely recognised impacts all round, might be argued to be the standout candidate for the Australian subsidiary of the Good Intentions Paving Company .

  10. feelthebern

    Apparently Mulkearns died of colon cancer.
    I hope he was in pain for the entire time.

  11. feelthebern

    So Pell ran the Melb archdiocese from 1996 to 2001.
    Who would have thought all the abuse in the Catholic church occurred only during those 5 years.

  12. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3044743, posted on June 17, 2019 at 3:16 pm
    Censorship around here is for my amusement.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3044745, posted on June 17, 2019 at 3:18 pm
    Yes beloved dear sir, hence for our own good.

    All hail Sinc Jong-Il.
    The Keyword Trigger is for our own good.
    I will sacrifice 3 conservatives to our Lord Milton for my sins.

    Unfortunately the NAP means they’ll have to volunteer and I could be waiting a long time.

  13. Stimpson J. Cat

    Only that one soldier got punished? Yes that is ridiculous. Collective punishment of the whole squad for the misdeeds of one is the norm in armies. You don’t run an army on laissez faire libertarianism after all.

    Imagine if you mixed up the Kale with the Iceberg Lettuce.
    Court Martial!!!!

  14. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    That’s terrible. Hasn’t kept pace with inflation.

    Very interesting.

    With such a long compounding period, the principal is very sensitive to the rate. 1901 to now is about 3.8% inflation p.a.

  15. Val Majkus

    and on the subject of good intentions … from Quadrant Online talking about the racialism of the Aborigines Geoff Sherrington … right hand side of the page … lead in paras

    My interaction with some of our Aborigines started at Port Keats in 1960. In later years as I worked in the mining sector, frequent visits to our operations at Jabiru (as we named the town we built) and Tennant Creek, where we had mined for decades, caused normal and inevitable interactions as we employed local people and naturally shared resources like school, swim pool, social club.
    At first, around 1974 and for a few years, Jabiru was a non-racist place as we visitors exchanged life stories with the locals, be they cattle-station imports or local aborigines or fishermen. We were visitors, me from Sydney, they were locals. Blokes were blokes and women were women. It was accurate to use “harmonious”. We were treated to mythical tales of sites with painting, wax sculpture and so on at what are now named “sacred” sites and are often barred to white people.
    Then the academic do-gooders appeared….

  16. Stimpson J. Cat

    Chief Military Defense Counsel Ran Cohen, whose unit represents soldiers on trial, said the practice of leaving judgment and punishment up to the discretion of commanders for low-level crimes gives far too much power to these officers, who use prison “as a default choice, rather than a last resort,” and called for a rethinking of the process.
    The military’s latest incarceration figures were released last week, showing some 10,000 Israeli soldiers, or approximately one in every 15 servicemembers, spent time in a military prison in the past year.

    Can anyone tell me how this compares stat wise with the Australian or Yank Armed Forces?
    Is this normal?

  17. cohenite

    Misprison of felony is a bad law, misprison of suspicion is worse.

    Misprison would have nailed the slapper.

  18. notafan

    The Church needs more boomers like the Maureen Bennents and Numbers like She needs a hole in the head

    What is She getting?

    That is right, the young people coming through now are true blue, reverent, traditionalists.

    so much for the hippy generation liberation theology priestess clown mass rainbow flagging sexual revolutionaries wewants that brought the Church unprecedented sexual abuse crises

    Can’t wait until they curl up their toes and have their ‘celebrations of life’ services.

  19. egg_

    Test:
    Numbers
    is
    an
    @rsehole

  20. zyconoclast

    Hollywood Stars, Executives Sign Petition in Support of Israel
    Nearly 200 actors and directors, including Arnold Schwarzenegger, Seth Rogen and Bill Maher sign anti-Hamas petition

  21. Seco

    Bolt is back up and running, nothing has changed as it’s impossible to get anything posted yet you see DrCrockcity, Athiest1 etc with multiple posts and a response to every other comment. Free speech alive and well there…

  22. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    FMD

    https://www.accountantsdaily.com.au/tax-compliance/12283-a-bad-look-ato-speaks-up-on-federal-court-ruling

    The full Federal Court has earlier ruled that Mr Pintarich was liable for the entire amount of General Interest Charge (GIC) on income tax debt, despite an error in communication from a letter from the deputy commissioner stating that he was not.

    Yes sir, you are allowed to do that.

    I WARNED YOU, YOU TOE RAG, NOT TO BLOODY DO THAT!

    🤡🌎 anarcho-tyranny.

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  24. Infidel Tiger

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  25. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Good lord.

    Zounds!

    Gazooks!

    They really are desperate for money…so they can dole it back out.

    https://www.accountantsdaily.com.au/tax-compliance/13161-govt-pushed-to-go-further-with-clean-tax-record-system

    From 1 July, businesses tendering for Commonwealth government contracts over $4 million will need to obtain a satisfactory statement of tax record (STR) from the ATO.

    In order to obtain a satisfactory STR, the business must be correctly registered for an Australian business number, goods and services tax, and tax file number.

    It must have lodged at least 90 per cent of relevant income tax, business activity statement and fringe benefits tax lodgements that were due in the last four years of operation from the date of request for an STR, and must not have $10,000 or greater in outstanding undisputed debt due, or have a payment plan in place with the ATO.

    Australian Small Business and Family Enterprise Ombudsman Kate Carnell said that while the measure was welcomed, more can be done to assist and protect small businesses subcontracted to these projects.

    WELCOMED? Hun, the last thing you did that was impressive was blow up a hospital.

  26. Gab

    PETITION: Tell U.S. libraries to stop pushing ‘drag queens’ on our kids!

    I actually blame the parents for allowing their children to be subjected to such insanity.

  27. “Seco
    #3044766, posted on June 17, 2019 at 3:38 pm
    Bolt is back up and running, nothing has changed as it’s impossible to get anything posted yet you see DrCrockcity, Athiest1 etc with multiple posts and a response to every other comment. Free speech alive and well there…”

    I gave up on his blog a long time ago.

  28. None

    Anyone who says they like diversity just means to say they like having more than a Chinese takeaway to choose from. They reduce us ethnics to food and a couple of quaint old country customs and that’s it. Because like you know they could be f****** arsed learning how to cook themselves in the first place. Greg Sheridan is one of the lowest intellect, highest hypocrite, biggest cowards in Australian media. And as boring as batshit, too.

  29. Mitch M.

    Have had a couple of encounters with oxy. On the packet it says Controlled Drug. In hospital two nurses tick off its administration. So where do these multitudes get it from? (Pardon my naiveté)

    Good question and here is one answer. People obtain those drugs via prescription and then sell them on the street for a big mark up.

  30. stackja

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3044770, posted on June 17, 2019 at 3:44 pm

    WELCOMED? Hun, the last thing you did that was impressive was blow up a hospital.

    Royal Canberra Hospital implosion – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canberra_Hospital_implosion
    The Royal Canberra Hospital implosion was a failed building implosion that killed one person and injured nine others. The implosion occurred on 13 July 1997, …

  31. Beachcomber

    ABC news has found another dire consequence of the klimate catastrophe. It is making tree kangaroos go blind. The communard ‘journalist’ didn’t bother even speculating on what might be the causal relationship. Because, you know, it just is.

  32. Stimpson J. Cat

    genderqueer ex-nun storytelling nurse comic

    That is amazing.
    This inspires me.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    Hawthorn Football Club president Jeff Kennett has sparked controversy by claiming security staff hired to monitor AFL crowds are “new arrivals” who don’t understand the game.

    Delicious.

    Woke Jeff is about to cop it.

  34. Shy Ted

    I ate a cougar once. Sorry, someone had to say it.

  35. notafan

    I ate a cougar once. Sorry, someone had to say it.

    Nice phrasing Shy Ted

  36. Nick

    I ate a cougar once. Sorry, someone had to say it.

    I’ll bet she loved it

  37. cohenite

    I ate a cougar once

    Was ‘it’ salty?

  38. egg_

    Anyone who says they like diversity just means to say they like having more than a Chinese takeaway to choose from.

    Inner city white collar mentality – so long as the little brown people know their place.

  39. Knuckle Dragger

    C’mon people, we’ve all been there.

    Breakfast – four cups of coffee, cereal, yoghurt, apple juice, about half a dozen smokes in between.

    Go to work – tipetty top, brand new week. Delete a dozen or so emails without reading them.

    Then you involuntarily sit up a teensy bit straighter. A small frown, barely perceptible, creases your brow.

    And you think – ‘Do I really, REALLY trust this fart?’

    This has been a public service. You’re welcome.

  40. “Greg Sheridan is one of the lowest intellect, highest hypocrite, biggest cowards in Australian media. And as boring as batshit, too.”

    Beautifully put None.

  41. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Speaking of…

    Joanna Krupa is still stunning in the “open division” and #1 in her age category.

  42. Stimpson J. Cat

    And you think – ‘Do I really, REALLY trust this fart?’

    To inhale or not to inhale, that is the question.

  43. Woolfe

    Custard got 69 votes, hmmmmmmmm

  44. Top Ender

    Former Victorian premier Jeff Kennett is standing by comments he made this morning suggesting “behaviour awareness” officers patrolling AFL crowds are ill-equipped because they appear to be “new arrivals”.

    Mr Kennett told The Australian he does not withdraw “anything I’ve said, whatsoever” and suspects most of the security staff “weren’t born here” and “don’t know the game”.

    The article in the Oz is doubtless paywalled, but if you have access you can see that one of the BAOs is wearing a turban.

    Brave call by Jeff. I wear a turban often, usually on Wednesdays.

    Then again I was born in London.

    Enjoy the new woke world!

  45. stackja

    Lyle Shelton
    ‏@LyleShelton
    Alternative headline: Folau targets adults who advocate puberty blockers, cross sex hormones & irreversible surgery to children.

  46. Stimpson J. Cat

    wearing a turban.

    Sikhs are noble and wise Men, unlike Buddhists, for they understand and truly appreciate the fleeting impermanence of hair.

  47. Leigh Lowe

    Hawthorn Football Club president Jeff Kennett has sparked controversy by claiming security staff hired to monitor AFL crowds are “new arrivals” who don’t understand the game.

    Delicious.

    Woke Jeff is about to cop it.

    He is right, though.
    Every one of the shots on TV showed that most of the Behavioural SS were Slurpee salesmen or weird beards.
    Commented on it at the time.

  48. cohenite

    Re recent discussions about the oil tanker attacks in the Gulf of Oman and to those saps who defended the Persians as not being responsible: suck up and pay up losers.

    The yanks had better get there soon.

  49. Geriatric Mayfly

    Prospectors are bigger liars than fishermen.

    Whoah there! Not within one half of one split hair have I ever erred in relating the dimensions of a single escapee.

  50. Knuckle Dragger

    cohenite,

    The US Fifth Fleet is already there. Just waiting for the nod.

  51. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oh cohenite how could you possibly not believe Hamid Reza Asefi?

    Ex-Iranian Diplomat Claims Israel Behind Oil Tanker Attacks

    Without offering any evidence, Hamid Reza Asefi, who served as Iran’s ambassador to France and Foreign Ministry spokesman, claimed the motive behind the attack was “clear.”

    “I think the directing of such incidents in the region are done by the Z10nist regime and this has no hidden dimensions,” Asefi told Iran Online in an interview cited by the Tehran Times.

    Israel benefits the most from accusations against Iran, Asefi theorized, and therefore “logically the Zionist regime is the agent of this incident.”

    He added that Israel seeks to drag the Islamic Republic into turmoil with the rest of the world.

    Iran denies any involvement in the twin attacks. The country’s foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, implied Israeli involvement when on Friday he accused the U.S., Israel and Saudi Arabia of engaging in a plot to “sabotage diplomacy.”

    Maybe the IRG will show us that limpet mine they took off the other tanker. Odd how they could so easily and confidently remove an Israeli explosive device. Also weird that when Israel is so amazingly capable as to tracelessly blow up 6 tankers in what is essentially an Arab and Persian lake, they used such poor gear that it failed to detonate.

  52. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oh cohenite how could you possibly not believe Hamid Reza Asefi?

    Ex-Iranian Diplomat Claims Israel Behind Oil Tanker Attacks

    Without offering any evidence, Hamid Reza Asefi, who served as Iran’s ambassador to France and Foreign Ministry spokesman, claimed the motive behind the attack was “clear.”

    “I think the directing of such incidents in the region are done by the Z10nist regime and this has no hidden dimensions,” Asefi told Iran Online in an interview cited by the Tehran Times.

    Israel benefits the most from accusations against Iran, Asefi theorized, and therefore “logically the Z10nist regime is the agent of this incident.”

    He added that Israel seeks to drag the I slam ic Republic into turmoil with the rest of the world.

    Iran denies any involvement in the twin attacks. The country’s foreign minister, Moha mmad Javad Zarif, implied Israeli involvement when on Friday he accused the U.S., Israel and Saudi Arabia of engaging in a plot to “sabotage diplomacy.”

    Maybe the IRG will show us that limpet mine they took off the other tanker. Odd how they could so easily and confidently remove an Israeli explosive device. Also weird that when Israel is so amazingly capable as to tracelessly blow up 6 tankers in what is essentially an Arab and Persian lake, they used such poor gear that it failed to detonate.

  53. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I think you mean Tel and Stimpy.

  54. ABC news has found another dire consequence of the klimate catastrophe. It is making tree kangaroos go blind.

    Everyone knows. It’s caused by them watching pawn and jerkin’ orf.

  55. Geriatric Mayfly

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  56. Stimpson J. Cat

    Bruce can you please stop posting disgusting anti Israel propaganda.
    Save that USS Liberty stuff to the wackos.
    😁

  57. ABC – Police have arrested two brothers, aged 18 and 20, who allegedly launched an unprovoked attack on an off-duty senior Victorian police officer…

    Remarkable how VIKPOL can quickly apprehend offenders when a plod is the victim.

    Suck it up everyone else.

  58. Muddy

    Val Majkus
    #3044759, posted on June 17, 2019 at 3:30 pm

    Thanks for the link. I have a hard copy of the most recent issue.
    Without fossilized exhibits in the museum, the curators will be unable to charge an entry fee (not from the average civilian, but the Government and other grants for ‘research,’ training,’ etc). No museum: no jobs and money for the playas.

    Create an issue or enlarge an existing one.
    Put yourself forward as the only one capable of resolving the issue (that you have created or enlarged).
    Never, ever do what you outwardly promise: solve the issue at hand. Make half-arsed efforts, or efforts you know will outwardly look believable, and blame the deficiencies on malignant ‘others’.
    Rinse, Spin, Repeat.

  59. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Oakland also gave us the glorious Oakland Athletics; hence Jose Conseco’s twitter feed.

  60. Bruce of Newcastle

    Remember how Netanyahu was so terribly likely to be indicted for corruption?
    Note how all that has gone quiet since the Israeli election.
    And now we get to see why.

    Sara Netanyahu – How did seven cases turn into a mere NIS 55,000 fine?

    There were so many “gates:” Bottlegate, Furniture Gate, the Father Homecare Affair, Electrician Gate – and the list goes on.

    How on earth did those seven potential cases against Sara Netanyahu get reduced to a conviction for a crime that barely sounds like a crime – exploiting someone else’s mistaken misuse of state funds – and a meager NIS 55,000?

    As with many misunderstandings about the cases against the Netanyahu family – misunderstandings both on the Right and the Left – much of the answer comes from separating the law from politics.

    That is about $15,000 US. Huge! And it is a plea deal. The deep staters in Israel let her plead guilty and be fined a small amount. Which shows just how high and deep they were piling crap.

    Caroline Glick’s reports are shown completely correct. It was a lefty hit job which has now resulted in an Israeli equivalent of the Mueller nothingburger.

  61. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Notafan, as we travelled a lot (and still do) we often took our children away with us when they were young and sometimes we left them with others for longish periods, mostly my Big Sis. Not lies, just sometimes time-scaled, and on occasion referring to grandchildren and other children who may have been in our care. I have been indicating something like this in hints for some time now.

    All observations I have made here involving children in my life are truthful representations of bringing up four children and being heavily involved in the upbringing of at least two others. I had to have a time-scaled disguise to protect Hairy’s employment if I was to blog here without fear of difficult repercussions for him. This is far less necessary now that he has retired but when a nameless woman was trying to ‘out’ me and thus my family when he was working I was never more thankful that I had time-scaled some anecdotes.

    Nick and IT, do your worst now.

    IT, pot, kettle, black, btw.

    Cassie, we will be back early next week.

  62. Stimpson J. Cat

    That is about $15,000 US. Huge!

    That’s more than Bronwyn Bishop Bruce.

  63. Infidel Tiger

    Jim Molan missed the cut.

  64. Infidel Tiger

    Nick and IT, do your worst now.

    IT, pot, kettle, black, btw.

    What’s happened now?

  65. Stimpson J. Cat

    just sometimes time-scaled

    The Circle of Trust is fickle Lizzie.
    How do we know there was no Breast-scaling?

  66. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Speak of the devil and he shall appear. No sooner have I spoken of the collective punishment of the squad for the misdeeds of the few than this letter appears from my electrickery retailer.

    Hello Crispin,
    Good news, electricity prices will come down on 1 July 2019
    So you can see what’s changed, over the page we’ve included what you pay now, compared to your new electricity charges. You’ll also find your new charges on your first bill after 1 July 2019.
    Reason for the change
    The Commonwealth government will introduce the Default Market Offer on 1 July 2019 for electricity customers currently on a standard retail contract. We’ve reduced your electricity prices in line with the default offer.

    Great, so the wunderlings in our Drug Capital are centrally planning electricity prices and have scared Origin into offering me 2.3c/kWh less than I’ve been paying. And I’m supposed to think this will save money.

    Whereas in fact the whole reason the price went up to begin with was A) the gold-plating of the distribution network at the specific request of the federal regulator, and B) the metastasising of the Wind and Solar growths fuelled by government subsidies that we continue to pay for via stealth taxes instead of upfront on a bill. And the plan by the public service QuaNGOs is for the situation to get worse with ARENA proudly announcing it’s spending $10M on a Distributed Energy Exchange which seeks to normalise and federate the process of selling rooftop solar and selling your willingness to forego electricity, aka “demand management”.

    The Default Market Offer includes the regulator’s estimate of a “reasonable price” of providing electricity, which quite naturally and “reasonably” includes the cost of all of the totally unnecessary Green schemes that are foisted onto consumers. The Default Market Offer is a small skin bandage for a giant sub-surface tumour that has not been cut out and will continue to add more unreliable and costly energy sources into the grid leading inexorably to continued market price rises. It’s the collective punishment for the misdeeds of the 12% of the country who were Greens voters in 2009. If they really think this means we are going to save money, I dare the government to detail our annual tax bills down to the level that shows how much we each pay for decentralised renewable energy developments, operational subsidies, and the administration thereof. Add that into next year’s electrickery bill and there is no chance it will be less than last year’s bill.

    The LNP only promised they would bring prices down. Realise how little that is offering. It only needs to happen one time, in one quarter, and they can say they “brought electricity prices down.” They did not say they would put an end to the escalating trend in power prices. There is still no sign they will.

  67. IT, pot, kettle, black, btw.

    Nope. He’s a white guy. (and pretty fly).

  68. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger
    #3044852, posted on June 17, 2019 at 5:26 pm
    Jim Molan missed the cut.

    Which cu t was he aiming at?

  69. P

    Jim Molan missed the cut.

    Pipped to the post by Mehreen Faruqi and Perrin Davey.

  70. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger
    #3044853, posted on June 17, 2019 at 5:28 pm
    Nick and IT, do your worst now.
    IT, pot, kettle, black, btw.
    What’s happened now?

    Failure to recognise Lizzie’s surplus Franklin credits.

  71. zyconoclast

    ABC – Police have arrested two brothers, aged 18 and 20, who allegedly launched an unprovoked attack on an off-duty senior Victorian police officer…

    Remarkable how VIKPOL can quickly apprehend offenders when a plod is the victim.

    Suck it up everyone else.

    This is another reason they were so quickly caught and publicly identified
    Look closely at the picture.

  72. custard

    Woolfe
    #3044802, posted on June 17, 2019 at 4:18 pm
    Custard got 69 votes, hmmmmmmmm

    Wait for the preferences to be announced Wednesday Woolfe. I’d like to think it would show I got about a third of the 6000 votes cast for AC.

    I will say more later……(about the election and AC)

  73. cohenite

    Oh cohenite how could you possibly not believe Hamid Reza Asefi?

    My bad. I really want to know what Tel thinks since he is not riven, like me, by raw hate.

    Further to the Persians running amuck before, during and after the attacks per my link, KD says the 5th fleet is already there. If that is so, and I know Tel will say this is grist to my hate mill, WTF weren’t the yanks blowing the bastards out of the water before they captured the Japanese crew and held them hostage for 2 days. I suppose this is a factor the yanks have to consider when dealing with the Persians who will prosecute lateral attacks on US non-military targets and allies rather than direct attacks on the US military, although this may be done by some of the Persian’s feral proxies.

  74. Woolfe

    Was that your personal below the line vote Custard?

  75. cohenite

    This is another reason they were so quickly caught and publicly identified
    Look closely at the picture.

    They’re albino suds?

  76. Exit Stage Right

    Pardon my ignorance, but what is time scaling?
    Is it like fish scaling?
    Dr Google wasn’t much help.

  77. cohenite

    Green candidate Mehreen Faruqi, National Perrin Davey pip Jim Molan for final Senate spot

    Richard Ferguson The Australian June 17, 2019

    Liberal senator Jim Molan has officially missed out on a spot in the Senate despite recording one of the highest first preference votes for a single politician in Australian history. The Australian Electoral Commission have officially declared the winners of the NSW senate seats today with the Nationals’ Perrin Davey and The Greens’ Mehreen Faruqi pipping Senator Molan to the last spots.

    Senator Molan, a former major general in the Australian Army, conceded defeat last week despite running a major below the line campaign which saw him garner more than 130,000 votes.

    The Liberal senator’s campaign almost imperilled Ms Davey’s campaign and could have left the NSW Nationals without a successful senate candidate for the first time in decades.

    Tensions between the NSW Liberals and Nationals rose so high during the federal election campaign that former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce suggested at one point that Senator Molan’s campaign threatened the Coalition Agreement.

    “This great result comes after a hard-fought federal election campaign and it defies the predictions of pundits who declared Perin would be defeated. More importantly, it means the people of rural and regional NSW will continue to have a strong voice in parliament,” a NSW Nationals spokesman said today.

    “Determined to bring common sense and respect to the job, Perin is a fine replacement for retiring Senator John ‘Wacka’ Williams, who will officially hand over the reins on July 1.”

    Senator Molan is likely to put his hand up for NSW Liberal Arthur Sinodinos’ senate spot when the latter vacates his seat to take up the post of Australia’s Ambassador to the United States.

    Other potential candidates for that spot include defeated Gilmore candidate Warren Mundine, former federal Liberal MP Fiona Scott, Liberal Party vice-president Kent Johns and Catholic Schools NSW chief Dallas McInerney.

    1/ Jim Molan is likely to put his hand up for NSW Liberal Arthur Sinodinos’ senate spot when the latter vacates his seat to take up the post of Australia’s Ambassador to the United States. Picture: Kym Smith

    People are suggesting to go to scomo’s spacechook page and demand Molan be put in to replace slippery sinusnitus. They have a point since Molan is clearly the best candidate, except for Mundine.

  78. zyconoclast

    I hope Setka goes the the un-lubed, elbow deep fisting on Albonese.

    He can get a happy ending via a prostate massage.

  79. Jessie

    I note that tobacco retail will rise again 15% in September. Thanks Tony.

    Any CAT folk know of research
    1) cost analysis of MRI and CT equipment/scanning covered by medicare/private rebates for the Aus population that are more n more being sent off for this
    2) whether the useful diagnosis of lung cancer in all its types and form and the legislative requirements inc reporting into databases, and copious funding for cancer research/programs has been investigated
    = as a useful diagnosis to support failing $$ tax-payer funded health bureaucracies?
    Source: https://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/health-compliance
    Source:Cancer Council

    He said that the issue was not enough thought was going into how well the public and private systems could work together to more effectively meet the needs of the public.
    He stressed that the only way the changes needed to address the growing strains on the healthcare system could be made was with strong government intervention.

    Source: Dire warning from health boss

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Do you know, Hairy didn’t know what the word ‘cougar’ meant till I told him Sinc joked with me when we met, saying when I mentioned an age difference: so Lizzie, you’re a cougar? Ten years difference means nothing to either of us. Any more, and who knows, it might. We made our children together the natural fun way, and that’s all that counts. We’re still totally in love; anyone who knows us can immediately see that.

    Count your blessings as well as your chickens and pennies. I love you all, Cats and Kittehs, even the gobsmacked, irascible, frankly disapproving and gormless ones like (names redacted), for c’est la vie, but I now have to finish this cruise devoting more time to Hairy than to blogging. See y’all back in SYD next week.

  81. Mother Lode

    Seco
    #3044766, posted on June 17, 2019 at 3:38 pm
    Bolt is back up and running, nothing has changed as it’s impossible to get anything posted yet you see DrCrockcity, Athiest1 etc with multiple posts and a response to every other comment. Free speech alive and well there…”

    I gave up on his blog a long time ago.

    Not only do they routinely ignore comments that fall foul of the Mods’ whims, but they expect you to pay for it.

    I gave up on Bolta’s. Leaving Blair’s too when it drifted to Bolta-esque policies.

  82. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Exit stage right, you work it out Hint: recounting past events with a present tense spin. I’ve done it occasionally re kids in my life, but never with travel – that has always been related in real time.

  83. Tel

    Re recent discussions about the oil tanker attacks in the Gulf of Oman and to those saps who defended the Persians as not being responsible: suck up and pay up losers.

    Show me where that article says Iran attacked anyone. They don’t even discuss where the missile was launched from or who did the launch.

  84. Exit Stage Right

    I think its all spin Lizzie.

  85. Notafan

    You clearly implied you were writing your dear diaries in the now when you were not.

    Just got the four year old out of the bath and so on.

    You even abused Delta A about your ’15 year old’ daughter.

    Explains the stupid Halloween slip too.

    No credibility.

  86. JC

    Liz

    You’re almost 80! Wow. I always had the impression of you as a “perky” 45 year old.

  87. JC

    Cronkite

    Stfu with your Mideast anal ysis. Who the fuck knows who blew up the tankers.

  88. custard

    Was that your personal below the line vote Custard?
    F-knows

    https://www.aec.gov.au/Voting/counting/senate_count.htm

  89. Infidel Tiger

    Liz it doesn’t really matter. I always assumed you were giving us an Angela’s Ashes version of events.

    No biggie.

    Just do us a favour and no more talk about having sex with that young Irish fella. I’m a tad prudish.

  90. Infidel Tiger

    Anyone rooting for war with Iran is a nutcase.

    It would be about the stupidest thing we could ever do.

  91. egg_

    Trump Heights

    Eat that, pussyhats.

  92. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    HAHAHA!

    I love this stuff. We’ve got to embrace and promote this; as much as animal husbandry will have attempts to ban it, so will hunting.

    http://cannundrum.blogspot.com/2013/02/fried-bobcat-stew-meat.html

    Bobcats around here are killing everything. from pets to livestock. They’re going to killed anyway. Cut the meat across the grain, roll it in seasoned flour, fry it canola oil to medium heat and eat.

    and…

    As I like to get the true taste of wild meat, particularly when trying it for the first time, this simple recipe was my guide. I cut the stew meat pieces into smaller pieces.

    I put canola oil in to a fry pan, along with the bobcat, some salt and some pepper.

    I did not want to over-cook it, so I pulled it off with hints of pink still in the meat. And Dacotah Rose was exactly right. It was very mild, very nice textured and the salt and pepper gave it just enough spice to make it enjoyable

    We had Andrew and Lauren over for dinner and Andrew wanted to cook it longer because of the fact it was wild caught. So I took out my portion of the meat and let him cook the rest of it further. The further cooking made the meat stiffer and texturally less appealing.

    I loved the bobcat and would eat it anytime or anywhere, cooked just the same way again. For anyone venturing into wild meat, this is a good starter meat as it does not have the gaminess of venison or antelope.

    I still won’t eat carp, dog or domestic cat.

    I would have a crack at wolf, tiger, lion, mountain lion though.

    Dear god I pity vegans.

  93. Tel

    https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=162

    Here’s a list of known operators of the Soviet designed but heavily copied SA-7 missile system: “Afghanistan; Albania; Algeria; Angola; Armenia; Botswana; Benin; Bulgaria; Burkina Faso; Cambodia; China; Croatia; Cuba; Cyprus; Czech Republic; Czechoslovakia; Egypt; Ethiopia; Finland; East Germany; Germany; Ghana; Guinea-Bissau; Hungary; Indonesia; India; Iraq; Iran; Kuwait; Laos; Lebanon; Libya; Macedonia; Mauritania; Morocco; Mozambique; Nicaragua; North Korea; Pakistan; Peru; Poland; Romania; Sierra Leone; Serbia; Slovakia; Slovenia; Somaliland; South Yemen; Soviet Union; Sudan; Syria; Tanzania; Ukraine; Vietnam; Yugoslavia; Zambia; Zimbabwe; Tamil Eelam”

    There’s plenty of evidence that the Iranians know how to produce them, but you would have to be highly suspicious that a drone can accurately determine the exact place of manufacture of a very commonly copied missile while it was zipping past in the air. Even if they might have been able to collect the remains of the missile somehow and positively found parts of Iranian origin … so what? These things are all over the Middle East.

    Besides that, one thing every ME nation hates is being buzzed by drones every day, and that’s because they get bombed regularly by those things. Shooting at drones is about the only thing they agree with each other about.

  94. bespoke

    Infidel Tiger
    #3044889, posted on June 17, 2019 at 6:15 pm
    Anyone rooting for war with Iran is a nutcase.

    It would be about the stupidest thing we could ever do.

    It’s been going on so long the temptation to say get it over with is strong but I agree.

  95. Stimpson J. Cat

    Anyone rooting for war with Iran is a nutcase.

    Yep.
    Don’t be a nutcase, guys.
    😁

  96. Bruce of Newcastle

    Anyone rooting for war with Iran is a nutcase.

    It’s already a war Infi. Has been for some time now.
    Hundreds of US service personnel have been killed by Iran.
    Probably thousands of Iranian service personnel have been killed by the US and Israel.
    It’s just mainly fought out of plain sight in Iraq, Syria and Yemen.

  97. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Interesting to be pro Assad but anti-Tehran.

    Just sayin’

  98. Tel

    Ex-Iranian Diplomat Claims Israel Behind Oil Tanker Attacks

    Look, it’s perfectly logical and expected that all sides will blame their favourite bad-guy, which is what all of them do.

    Without offering any evidence …

    Here’s the difference … none of the reports have put forward any evidence, none. The American report about mines does not even correlate with eyewitness accounts by the crew who said they were attacked by something flying through the air. However, the US media will faithfully swallow whatever the government press report tells them to swallow, and they only put “Without offering any evidence …” as a prefix to some reports and not others. It’s straight out propaganda. The US government has done so many dodgy things by now that they absolutely do not deserve the benefit of the doubt. What about all of those American made TOWs being handed to the moderate terrorists who acted as the ISIS procurement department? Forgotten already?

  99. P

    I read this a few days ago but it seems like Iran have other worries as well:

    How Iran Was Swindled Out Of $3.2 Trillion

  100. Tel

    If that is so, and I know Tel will say this is grist to my hate mill, WTF weren’t the yanks blowing the bastards out of the water before they captured the Japanese crew and held them hostage for 2 days.

    Here’s the actual report: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-tanker-kokuka-idUSKCN1TE0UM

    The spokesman said 21 crew had abandoned ship after the incident, which resulted in damage to the ship’s starboard hull.

    The master and crew were quickly rescued from a lifeboat by the Coastal Ace, a nearby vessel.

    One crew man from the Kokuka Courageous was slightly injured in the incident and received first aid on board the Coastal Ace.

    Amazingly … no hostage situation … not as exciting.

  101. Bruce of Newcastle

    The American report about mines does not even correlate with eyewitness accounts by the crew who said they were attacked by something flying through the air.

    Tel – The other tanker had a hole in its side several metres above the waterline. It had an unexploded object at that same height some distance along the hull from the hole. The IRG vessel came alongside and removed the object. That object looked like a limpet mine to me.

    I hypothesize that both limpet mines were delivered by drone. That would explain the observation by the crew and the heights of the points of attack. Pretty clearly the means of attachment was magnetic.

    I have never heard of demolition limpet mines being delivered by drone, but it is not going to be an especially hard bit of kit to develop.

    Gulf tanker attack: Iran has form for using clingy, covert ‘limpet mines’ which instantly disable vessels (14 Jun)

  102. Tel

    https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/COASTAL-ACE-IMO-9645554-MMSI-244620128

    I believe that’s the “Coastal Ace” refereed to above, a small Dutch tugboat. Might be a secret Iranian warship, but I somehow doubt that.

  103. Roberto

    Overburdened

    Another pair of bludging pricks.

    Feckless spongers like these two almost make me want to barrack for the ‘peaceful’ immigrants in their conquest of Europe.

  104. mahatma daryl from the family peace foundation

    One of the best things about Trump on Twitter is how he doesn’t wait until someone has a biff. He gets in first. Example: Mo Khan Mayor of London now dealing with the worst knife attack stats.

    He is a national disgrace who is destroying the City of London!

    LONDON needs a new mayor ASAP. Khan is a disaster – will only get worse!

  105. Colonel Crispin Berka

    A new report has found Tasmania has the highest average capital city consumption of MDMA, oxycodone, fentanyl and cannabis in the country.

    And they still want to pipe water from Tasmania to Victoria?

  106. bespoke

    They call everything “drones” it drives me nuts. It have to be a really big multi copter to deliver something that size.

  107. Tel

    https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/VIDEO-AND-IMAGERY/VIDEOS/videoid/689676/

    There’s a Centom report showing what might be a limpet mine, and explaining that the Japanese crew were taken back by the US Navy, while the Norwegian crew of the Front Altair were taken by the Iranian patrol boats. Other reports indicate the Norwegians have been released via Dubai, not sure about where the ships are now.

    None of that shows any actual evidence that Iran attacked anybody. The video is low quality and only the Iranians know what that device was. They couldn’t have been particularly worried about it blowing up though.

  108. Stimpson J. Cat

    I have never heard of demolition limpet mines being delivered by drone, but it is not going to be an especially hard bit of kit to develop.

    Is this before or after they develop their nukes?
    Tech geniuses that they are.

  109. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The video is low quality and only the Iranians know what that device was.

    …and why is that so?

    They couldn’t have been particularly worried about it blowing up though.

    …and why is that so?

  110. Stimpson J. Cat

    How to be know it wasn’t a long forgotten package of Obama cash that was left on the ships hull?
    There’s just so many variables.

  111. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Stimpy

    Limpet mines are early WWII era tech.

  112. Is this before or after they develop their nukes?
    Tech geniuses that they are.

    Careful Stimpy.
    Your sanity is showing through your facade.
    Again.

  113. Stimpson J. Cat

    Limpet mines are early WWII era tech.

    Limpet mines on drones in WWII?
    Do you actually read what I post?

  114. Geriatric Mayfly

    A new report has found Tasmania has the highest average capital city consumption of MDMA, oxycodone, fentanyl and cannabis in the country.

    Been up a tree today, hacking and engaging in judicious pruning. Back aches, shoulder aches. Desperately in need of a strong painkiller. The medico will be as hostile to the very idea as is his wont. “Suffer you old prick,” is the unspoken word. Where do I find these rivers of relief?

  115. Arky

    Good God.
    Lizzie is like, older than Delta.
    That makes her…
    What? 130?
    I thought the Model A was an antique.
    These dames were around when Ford was designing the Model T.

  116. JC

    I’m on a beach in Sicily. Nice beach although it’s private and you have to fork over €20 for a chair and umbrella. Okay. African dudes selling junk on beach talking Italian is really freaking weird. On this side the med is calm like port Phillip bay.

    One downside is that there’s an inordinate number of fuckers wearing mankinis with arsecheeks exposed. Disgusting. Sadly some them are poms and frogs. I really don’t know how any dude could be gay.

  117. Desperately in need of a strong painkiller.

    Yalumba Shiraz.
    $15.00 a two litre cask.
    Doesn’t actually kill the pain, but after three glasses, you don’t care.

  118. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tel – The vessel that removed the limpet mine was no tugboat. For a start it was too small.
    IRG vessel removing the limpet mine.

    It looks like it might be one of these, but the list of small Iranian patrol boat sized naval craft is quite extensive – including a few PGMs transferred from the USN.

  119. rickw

    ABC – Police have arrested two brothers, aged 18 and 20, who allegedly launched an unprovoked attack on an off-duty senior Victorian police officer…

    Remarkable how VIKPOL can quickly apprehend offenders when a plod is the victim.
    Suck it up everyone else.

    Notice though how he got the shit beaten out of him and no one came to his aid. That’s VIKPOL’s “leave it to the experts or we’ll lock you up” programming at work, nice outcome when you think about it.

  120. Arky

    This is doing my head in.
    I’m going to have to swap some stuff around in order to adjust.
    Delta, if you survived having part of your mummified self removed, can you start writing incredibly long and dull escapades involving travel, delinquent relatives and some poor old Irish dude?
    I want to swap all my “How old? Older than…” material over to Lizzie, and I can’t cope with doubling up.

  121. Stimpson J. Cat

    All we know for sure is that an American President paid millions of dollars in cash that they actually stole – back – plus interest – to a known terrorist state.
    And you want me to trust the words of Americans about this country.
    Ha ha ha ha ja ja ha ja ja!!!!

  122. cohenite

    Show me where that article says Iran attacked anyone. They don’t even discuss where the missile was launched from or who did the launch.

    Now you’re just being sad; you’re an intelligent guy; it’s called overwhelming circumstantial evidence with the cherry on top being the official disavowal by some Persian dickhead.

  123. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tel – The vessel that removed the limpet mine was no tugboat. For a start it was too small.
    IRG vessel removing the limpet mine.

    It looks like it might be one of these, but the list of small Iranian patrol boat sized naval craft is quite extensive – including a few PGMs transferred from the USN.

  124. JC

    I know Arky. Kind of funny, but she’s good natured and harmless. Having said that- having to walk back perky howitzers and then fast forward to an 89 year sheila getting a leg over…. artie is right. She needs to be banned ever discussing sex again.

  125. Leigh Lowe

    Been up a tree today, hacking and engaging in judicious pruning. Back aches, shoulder aches. Desperately in need of a strong painkiller. The medico will be as hostile to the very idea as is his wont. “Suffer you old prick,” is the unspoken word. Where do I find these rivers of relief?

    Today was spout cleaning day for me.
    The crop of grass growing 6 inches above the roof edge was a sign.
    Checked on my stash of hoarded pain-killers in case I had a tumble.

  126. Tel

    Tel – The vessel that removed the limpet mine was no tugboat.

    That’s correct.

    It was the tugboat that picked up the Japanese crew … exactly as I already cited see
    #3044913, posted on June 17, 2019 at 6:48 pm above.

    At no stage did I ever say, nor intone, hint, suggest or in any way propose that the tugboat picked up a limpet mine.

  127. cohenite

    Ah, head prefect is back and bloviating from a beach in the Mediterranean apparently while gazing enviously at young studs wearing mankinis while seeping his ulcer meds.

    Send us some pics HP.

  128. it’s called overwhelming circumstantial evidence with the cherry on top being the official disavowal by some Persian dickhead.

    Yep.
    That pretty-much describes the Catallaxy Mob “scientific” method of jumping to conclusions.

  129. cohenite

    You’re a genius Tel. Tell us some good points about the RoP so I can filter my hate through the prism of your optimism.

  130. Arky

    but she’s good natured and harmless.

    ..
    Yeah. But all this time she could have been writing about her real and actual adventures as a little girl in King Arthur’s court, instead of boring us with all this crap about traipsing around the world with a hairy guy.

  131. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Stimpy

    Limpet mines are WWII tech. Drones have been around since the same time.

    Absolute mad lad:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Denny_(actor)

    Reginald Denny (born Reginald Leigh Dugmore, 20 November 1891 – 16 June 1967) was an English stage, film and television actor as well as an aviator and UAV pioneer. He was once an amateur boxing champion of Great Britain.[citation needed]

    Okay, here is the important bit:

    In the early 1930s, Denny became interested in radio controlled model aeroplanes. He and his business partners formed Reginald Denny Industries and opened a model plane shop in 1934 known as Reginald Denny Hobby Shops.

    He bought a plane design from Walter Righter in 1938 and began marketing it as the “Dennyplane”, and a model engine called the “Dennymite”.[5] In 1940, Denny and his partners won a US Army contract for their radio-controlled target drone, the OQ-2 Radioplane. They manufactured nearly fifteen thousand drones for the US Army during the Second World War.

    AND…

    Marilyn Monroe was discovered working as an assembler at Radioplane. A photographer assigned by Denny’s friend, Army publicist (and future US President) Captain Ronald Reagan, took several shots and persuaded her to work as a model, which was the beginning of her career.

    Maybe one icon was born of another hitting on the hitherto unknown!

  132. Grigory M

    Fantasy – as I have said – many, many times.

  133. JC

    all this crap about traipsing around the world with a hairy guy.

    Stop talking about hairy dudes when I’m surrounded by euro-fuckers exposing hairy arsecheeks. You’re going to put me off the lunchtime pizza slice and coke.

  134. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look can all the Christians just settle down with all the Crusade talk?
    Bad enough the Mo Bro’s wanting Jihad.

    Just calm down guys.
    The Iranian’s have been ready to bomb everyone with nukes almost as long as global warming has been killing us all.
    Relax.

  135. JC

    You’re not interested in pics, Cronkite. You idiot. You’re only interested in the ROP and getting into a war.

  136. Frank

    Yalumba Shiraz.
    $15.00 a two litre cask.
    Doesn’t actually kill the pain, but after three glasses, you don’t care.

    Fifteen litre Berri Fruity Lexia caterers’ box. Butt chugging for the immediacy. The coroner will write it off a suicide.

  137. Stimpson J. Cat

    Limpet mines are WWII tech. Drones have been around since the same time.

    If Bruce hasn’t heard of a demolition limpet mine drone it probably doesn’t exist.
    Unlike you and me, he is a Scientist.
    Grow up.

  138. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Bruce is NOT Sidney Alford.

    Another mad lad.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Alford

  139. candy

    I don’t believe it Lizzie.

    I simply can’t believe it.

  140. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Look can all the Christians just settle down with all the Crusade talk?

    Remember when conservatives used to try and shame libertarians for NOT wanting to start a second wave of crusades?

    Pepperidge Farm remembers.

  141. This is developing into a script worthy of the Monty Python crew.

    In total secret the Iranians manage to develop hi-tech multi billion dollar drones capable of hitting a long range target with pin point accuracy, then use them to drop limpet mines apparently first used in the American civil war.

    What’s next?
    Laser guided camel attacks?

  142. cohenite

    You’re not interested in pics, Cronkite. You idiot. You’re only interested in the ROP and getting into a war.

    That’s not true HP; I’ve always been fond of photos of fat guys on beaches; go on, don’t be a grouch, put up some holiday pics.

    As for being interested in war; sure, I’ve got gold stocks; what else do you recommend?

  143. cohenite

    memoryvault

    #3044971, posted on June 17, 2019 at 7:50 pm

    I put up a list of possible culprits the other night for Tel; if you don’t think it was the Persians who do you think?

  144. Bruce of Newcastle

    Stimpy – I’m not good at gardening, microbiology or Iranian armaments. I’m sure there’re some other things too I ain’t good at.

  145. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ignore these Cat Jihadis JC.

    Let’s get serious.
    Talk to me about Libra.
    What’s going to happen?

  146. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpy – I’m not good at gardening, microbiology or Iranian armaments. I’m sure there’re some other things too I ain’t good at.

    Stop this disgusting humility.
    You’re like a literal Climate Change St Francis of Assisi but only for birds.

  147. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Iranians manage to develop hi-tech multi billion dollar drones capable of hitting a long range target with pin point accuracy

    This is a speculative fantasy like a degenerate gambler writing smut for David Allen Coe or Alvin Goldstein.

  148. Stimpson J. Cat

    JC let’s be serious.

    Talk to me about Libra.

    What is going to happen?

  149. Infidel Tiger

    Same people who want to go to war with Iran over some dodgy intel have been reading Lizzie without credulity.

    We must forever be vigilant. I’m not even sure Hairy is Irish.

  150. Top Ender

    What actually attacked those tankers was this….

    These cutting edge devices “instead carried a copper keg of gunpowder on a 16-ft (4.9-m) pole out in front of itself. The idea was that it would ram ships with that keg, hitting them below the waterline.”

    It’s obvious the dastardly Iranians snuck up on the tankers and poked it out of the water to hit above the waterline. Therefore they can send a message rather than going the Full Monty.

    Further details of such naval warfare can be found on my site: SteamPunkNavy.com

  151. P

    Been up a tree today, hacking and engaging in judicious pruning. Back aches, shoulder aches. Desperately in need of a strong painkiller. The medico will be as hostile to the very idea as is his wont. “Suffer you old prick,” is the unspoken word. Where do I find these rivers of relief?

    Mayfly, we who are close to 80, me in a several months from now, have no consideration given because of our age and what accompanies it.
    Valium would serve you well for the muscle pain, esp involuntary muscle, but now almost impossible to obtain from a GP who have govt instructions not to prescribe due to addiction concerns.
    This is the rubbish with which we now have to contend.
    My good wishes to you, esp as alcoh0l is not the answer for you.

  152. JC

    Talk to me about Libra.

    What’s that?

  153. Steve trickler

    Mark Dice update on some troubling tech. You could do serious damage with this…..

    Check out Zuckerberg here.



  154. if you don’t think it was the Persians who do you think?

    I have no idea who did it, Cohenite. Or their motive.
    But if I were to make a list of possible candidates who might profit in some way from the attacks, and rank them in descending order, it would start with the the Saudis, then the other Sunni Muslim states, then a long collection of other “possibles” in ever diminishing probability.

    Right down at the bottom of the list would be Turkey, Israel, and last of all, Iran.

  155. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Houthis shot something like a dozen expensive antiship missiles at USS Mason, USS Nitze and USS Ponce. Those were presumed to be Iranian, or sourced from Iran, since the Houthis’ war industries probably aren’t up to making anything more than an IED.

    One of the missiles turned HSV-2 Swift into scrap, which is a sad end for a ship built in Tassie.

  156. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger
    #3044982, posted on June 17, 2019 at 8:03 pm
    Same people who want to go to war with Iran over some dodgy intel have been reading Lizzie without credulity.
    We must forever be vigilant. I’m not even sure Hairy is Irish.

    I’ve met Hairy personally, and she is definitely Celtic.
    Hard to know which branch though.
    Drinks like a Colleen with a Scottish temper and dresses like Daffyd from the village.

  157. Fvcking spaminator. Try again:

    if you don’t think it was the Persians who do you think?

    I have no idea who did it, Cohenite. Or their motive.
    But if I were to make a list of possible candidates who might profit in some way from the attacks, and rank them in descending order, it would start with the the Saudis, then the other Sunni M00 – sli states, then a long collection of other “possibles” in ever diminishing probability.

    Right down at the bottom of the list would be Tur – key, Is – rael, and last of all, Iran.

  158. Tel

    If I can’t convince you then the UK government should be able to.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gulf-of-oman-attacks-uk-statement

    Not only has the UK government been getting everything wrong lately, but their conclusion is that only a “sophisticated state actor” can launch an explosive at a big cumbersome oil tanker. Really?!? That’s the most implausible thing I’ve ever heard. You don’t want to go around agreeing with the UK government.

  159. JC

    Artie

    I always take everyone at face value until evidence suggests otherwise.

    Cronkite, how gay are you wanting see of pics of men in mankinis? What you’re asking me to do for you is a homo version of upskirting. That…. is NOT going to happen.

  160. Leigh Lowe

    Anyone rooting for war with Iran is a nutcase.

    The Iran-Iraq war was a golden age.
    We should have just kept that one rolling ad-infinitum.
    A surreptitious thumb on the scales here, a cup of petrol on the flames there to maintain equilibrium.

  161. Infidel Tiger

    Artie

    I always take everyone at face value until evidence suggests otherwise.

    In real life I agree.

    On the internet I assume everyone is a morbidly obese sex offender.

  162. Nick

    Same people who want to go to war with Iran over some dodgy intel have been reading Lizzie without credulity.

    Testify!

  163. Leigh Lowe

    Bwah, ha, ha, ha.
    Meme going around on Facebook with Gillon McPolo-Nazi with a photo-shopped Pyonyang haircut.
    .
    Kim Jong Gill.
    Snort, cackle.

  164. Leigh Lowe

    On the internet I assume everyone is a morbidly obese sex offender.

    That reminds me.
    Where is Monty?

  165. candy

    I don’t believe it about Lizzie.

    As women do, you take notice of their marital status, number of kids, any troubles, family stuff, particular fashions we like, all kinds of female stuff. She talked about her 2 kids son and daughter from first marriage to an intellectual lefty fellow and the marriage grew apart. Hard times, single mum etc. Then meets a good more suited to her kind of man, 2 more kids both boys, one with very low level autism spectrum disorder.

    I just can’t believe Lizzie has been pretending for some 7 or so years about that that kind of thing.

  166. JC

    Stimson

    I’ve never been big on crypto’s and have viewed them with suspicion. Out of them all, the one I would trust the most is bitcoin.

    Here’s the thing about libra. Would you trust Facebook/fuckerberg and the rest of those big tech Canutes when they ban people because of their views and demonetise sites at a whim? If fuckerberg took a dislike to you how would you know he wouldn’t cancel your crypto’s? Don’t ever trust those sacks of shit – especially fuckerberg..especially when you have the greenback.

  167. cohenite

    I knew you’d find some excuse HP. What a grinch.

    As for the Persians, Occam’s Razor. The brainiacs around here are just over analysing the situation; it’s not Trump’s 4 dimensional mess with their minds stuff. The Persian’s (or one of their feral proxies) done it.

  168. Colonel Crispin Berka

    What’s next?
    Laser guided camel attacks?

    Do you have evidence that camels do NOT behave like giant cats with respect to lasers?

  169. JC

    Candy

    I’m more disappointed about the howizters not been as perky as I thought they were, but then I’m really shallow. That reminds me, you once told us you have a very pert bottom. Post a pic as we want proof now. No more cheap talk from sheilas at the cat.

  170. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m all for war with Iran, but only if there’s conscription.

  171. candy

    Still pert, JC.
    It is always important to present a nice derriere for mankind. It does take exercise and healthy diet though. We none of us are getting younger.

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    Sharks with freakin’ laser beams.

    Millions of camel spiders towing specialist counterbattery artillery.

    Scorpions, brontosaurus-size using their tails as catapults.

    Kamikaze goats.

    The horror.

  173. Tintarella di Luna

    I just can’t believe Lizzie has been pretending for some 7 or so years about that that kind of thing.

    candy Lizzie hasn’t been pretending at all, for the sake of anonymity she’s just changed a few dates here and there, that is all. Very clever and very kind too.

  174. Ellie

    Candy! Think deeper. A classic technique in magical illusions.

  175. candy

    Lizzie hasn’t been pretending at all, for the sake of anonymity she’s just changed a few dates here and there, that is all. Very clever and very kind too.

    I feel betrayed, Tintarella. I know only online etc. but betrayed.

  176. Arky

    Lizzie is a good stick.
    An ancient stick for sure, but a good one.

  177. Ellie

    Love your work, Lizzie.

  178. Armadillo

    Wow. Cats have been lying. You people disgust me.

    Next thing we will find out that nUmbers is Grigory.

    I miss Hammy. He would be ashamed of the “box of socks” you mob have become.

  179. John Constantine

    Had the pre june 30 bulk diesel delivery today.

    Filled a couple of now-illegal-for-road-use fuel carts as well as the standard bulk storage tank.

    Very slight chance of australian diesel imports being cut off, but the risk of being without fuel for hay season and harvest is that you lose the hay or grain crop.

    Changing over to a higher level of diesel stocks on hand, if i can keep organised to have all tanks full all the time instead of filling them the morning of use.

    Not judging it worthwhile to put a decent size storage tank in, costwise and compliance wise.

  180. Do you have evidence that camels do NOT behave like giant cats with respect to lasers?

    Camels have no respect for anything or anybody.
    Including lasers, which they’d probably eat.

  181. Knuckle Dragger

    Jeff Kennett was bang on.

    The security punters and/or BAO morons are indeed new arrival, and no they do not understand the game.

    Just saw footage of two players having a scruff near the boundary line during one of the Tassie games on the weekend.

    A SECURITY GUARD ran on to the ground to separate the players, but before he got to them an umpire chased him off.

    What the hell is going on?

  182. Infidel Tiger

    Lizzie is a good stick.
    An ancient stick for sure, but a good one.

    Yeah, she’s not really an historian. She’s just retelling stuff she saw first hand: like the pyramids been built and the Crucifixion.

  183. Armadillo

    I’m more disappointed about the howizters not been as perky as I thought they were, but then I’m really shallow. That reminds me, you once told us you have a very pert bottom. Post a pic as we want proof now. No more cheap talk from sheilas at the cat.

    JC is absolutely correct. The blokes here have been betrayed once. Never again. It’s a trust thing.

  184. 2dogs

    The Iranian’s have been ready to bomb everyone with nukes almost as long as global warming has been killing us all.

    The nuclear winter resulting from a nuclear war with Iran would do a great deal to alleviate global warming.

  185. Stimpson J. Cat

    Here you go.

    Exactly what I thought.
    Imagine if they start giving users free crypto for information and surveys etc, etc.
    It’s much harder to leave a free platform if the platform retains an actual monetary value to you.
    It’s a clever way to try to retain and retrain users.
    Sick f$cks.

  186. Armadillo

    Camels have no respect for anything or anybody.

    It’s why they make them wear bells. Just so you know the bastards are about.

    Try sticking a bell on a Giraffe. I ferkin dare ya.

  187. feelthebern

    The Iranians still are concerned about what happened in Libya.
    They gave up their nukes & then he got a bayonet up the bum hole.

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    The US does not have enough sand.

    Iran has more sand than it needs. Therefore, Iran should give some or all of its sand to the US.

    Morally, it’s the right thing to do.

  189. Infidel Tiger

    Next thing Grig will reveal he’s not really a skin suit wearing sociopath.

  190. feelthebern

    There is a real chance of North Korea giving up their nukes.
    They see the benefits of trade.
    Resource rich with China & Japan both hungry for their resources.
    Iran is a different kettle of fish.

  191. feelthebern

    Iran sees Israel, Pakistan, India, Russia all with nukes.
    Zero chance of Iran giving them up.

  192. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3045025, posted on June 17, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    Jeff Kennett was bang on.

    He is, but let’s not forget that there might be a “look over there” distraction factor.
    Hawthorn are pretty much gone as finals contenders, their 12 metre chip-kick sideways game is looking very ordinary, and their intrepid captain just got pinged for pinching someone’s arm and stomping on someone else’s foot.
    It is getting very girly.

  193. Armadillo

    Zero chance of Iran giving them up.

    You can’t “give up” something you haven’t got.

  194. There is a real chance of North Korea giving up their nukes.

    North Korea no longer has any nukes.
    Nor the capacity to build them.

  195. feelthebern

    If I’m Iran, I see the yanks next door in Iraq.
    & on the other side the yanks in Afghanistan.
    Sure the Iranian leadership is a pack of nutters, but the last thing the world needs is a country with 80mill punters with a power vacuum at the top.

  196. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3045036, posted on June 17, 2019 at 8:50 pm

    Next thing Grig will reveal he’s not really a skin suit wearing sociopath.

    I believe the word you are looking for is “psychopath” not “sociopath”.

  197. feelthebern

    Trade is the war to open up Iran.
    This can be like Nixon going to China.

  198. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Stop talking about hairy dudes when I’m surrounded by euro-fuckers exposing hairy arsecheeks. You’re going to put me off the lunchtime pizza slice and coke.

    your doc obviously hasn’t told you that simply reducing LDL with statins only reduces your risk of a coronary event by 20-30%.

  199. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Stimpy

    XYO is based on something like that. Their idea is to make the blockchain “offline”, as to improve remote sensing and location estimates.

  200. feelthebern

    Whenever Grig gets mentioned, I think of Steve Buscemi in Conair.

  201. Tel

    The Houthis shot something like a dozen expensive antiship missiles at USS Mason, USS Nitze and USS Ponce. Those were presumed to be Iranian, or sourced from Iran, since the Houthis’ war industries probably aren’t up to making anything more than an IED.

    The Houthis are pretty desperate and use various bits of equipment sourced from many places, including Iran. Many of the Houthi missiles and drones look a lot like Iranian missiles and drones, but then again Iran also copies off Russia and China. The so called “Houthis’ war industries” seem pretty good at recycling and refurbishing, I doubt they make anything from scratch. The C-802 anti ship missile is Chinese, while the “Noor” is the Iranian copy of that. The tiny Yemeni navy was known to have an old stockpile of Chinese made C-801 missiles which were copied off the MM38 Exocet.

    I can understand them attacking Saudi targets, because they have been bombed savagely and Saudis attacked lots of civilian infrastructure in Yemen like water treatment plants, food warehouses, shipping container ports, medical facilities.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-u-s-enables-deliberate-saudi-attacks-on-civilian-targets-in-yemen/

    Of course they have the obligatory photo of the starving child … but really there have been cholera outbreaks and years of hunger in Yemen. I could totally recognize the incentive for Houthis attacking Saudi targets in response … and it makes sense that Iran are happy to see Saudis get hit, so keeping the Houthis supplied makes sense. But these targets were not Saudi ships. Also, missiles tend to be the Houthi preferred method of attack … but anyway perhaps these were missile attacks … could easily be a rogue group with some big grudges. A lot of Yemenis blame the USA for helping the Saudis bomb them.

  202. Infidel Tiger

    North Korea no longer has any nukes.
    Nor the capacity to build them.

    Since when?

  203. JC

    States could destroy crypto’s in a few seconds flat. All they would need to do is go back 30 years when you could buy bearer bonds, there was no limit in the amount of cash one could have without creating suspicion and allow tax havens to do their thing. Basically allow anon in holding cash or cash value. And presto, that currency would make crypto’s look like toy money. They won’t though.

  204. Stimpson J. Cat

    No more cheap talk from sheilas at the cat.

    From now on I will assume every Woman on Catallaxy is actually Hannah Mouncey.
    You know, I went and saw my psych today.
    Know what she said?
    “You’re doing very well Stimp, I’m very proud of you Stimp, you’re an inspiration to all Skitz Stimp, you should really think about dating the Sane Women again Stimp, wow your head is very shiny Stimp, etc etc…. ”
    And now this happens.
    It’s just very disappointing and disrespectful.

  205. feelthebern

    A lot of Yemenis blame the USA for helping the Saudis bomb them.

    For good reason.

  206. JC

    What’s your point, zipper?

  207. feelthebern

    Stimpy goes to the doctor, wearing glad wrap pants.
    The doctor goes “I can clearly see your nuts”.

  208. Knuckle Dragger

    The thought of the Houthis operating drones and welding bits back onto anti-ship missiles makes me think of Wile. E. Coyote lighting ACME rockets.

  209. P

    I feel betrayed, Tintarella. I know only online etc. but betrayed.

    Candy, I understand because I also, with you, was attacked by accusations of Lizzie.

    Both of us are capable of moving on and being thankful for the many incredibly informative and entertaining comments made by her over the years. She has added immense colour and much pleasurable reading to this blog. Esp her travel blogs, her knowledge of Arthur and indeed much more.

    I’m not surprised because I’m closer to her age than you, and I sensed on many occasions that she did not fit into the scenario she was presenting.

  210. feelthebern

    Trump Heights will is the best trolling I have ever seen.

  211. Armadillo

    The Iranian regime are bluffing. They know that the first cruise missile to land will be the end of it all. The people have had enough.

    I’ve said it here before “Under the Shah, we only got the crusts. Under the Mullahs, we only get the crumbs”.

  212. miltonf

    The gaggle of Democrats lining up against The Donald- Butt plug, Beta, Occasional Car Sex, Sanders would have to be the shittiest collection of dead shits out. So is the corrupt little tramp gonna have another go?

  213. Chris

    MOST entertaining.
    The lovely Lizzie as muse is a natural fit.

    As to any date-related surprises, I am still astonished at my OWN age, never mind anyone else’s. We toy-boys get it very, very good.

  214. Interruption Lotto isd open

    Numbers should be low in tonight’s circle jerk

  215. John Constantine

    We are told we must build bollards and do endless security searches of people in public spaces and crack down on behaviour in public spaces and monitor non-compliance with the narrative in public.

    It is not said openly that australia has mass imported so many volatile military age males that cracking down on everyone is required, elderly CWA bus trips must be strictly forced into compliance as well, or we will enrage our volatile military age imports.

    Not openly said, but accepted by all, even those demanding an increase in mass military age male peasant imports, so we can pay them to turn informers on the others.

    We are also led to believe that it is an enraging insult for a volatile military age male imported peasant to be searched and forced to comply and conform by somebody from the wrong demographic, so australia must mass import and arm paramilitary security squads from volatile hellholes, so as to not offend people that are already here and are enraged by old australia and want to overthrow it.

    It is like a decision was made, and our current bemused excuses and twisted and conflicted justifications are just so our elites can continue to comply with their unswerving capitulation to their paymasters.

    Big Australia has made us so rich we can afford to mass import Sardauker from our planet’s Salusa Secundus regions to search us and keep us compliant.

    Nobody thinks the yarragrad government bought all those hundreds of military style assault rifles to arm squads of pale stale males to enforce the Narrative?.

    Comrades?.

  216. Geriatric Mayfly

    Valium would serve you well for the muscle pain, esp involuntary muscle, but now almost impossible to obtain from a GP who have govt instructions not to prescribe due to addiction concerns.

    Thanks P for the tip. Requested same not so long ago for the reasons you cite. The Eminence adopted a grave mien, which I read and enquired if it mattered much if I became a druggie at 78. He shifted tack with the agility of a gazelle pursued, and said he was concerned that I might fall over on my way to the toilet in the dead of night. There is a thunderbox outside which I never use.

  217. Tel

    Iran sees Israel, Pakistan, India, Russia all with nukes.
    Zero chance of Iran giving them up.

    Iran don’t have any nukes but their conventional technology is slowly getting better, and they are able to make it themselves so they don’t depend on anyone. Their missiles are getting better and more accurate, and so on. There will be an endless temptation to keep up with the Joneses next door, but what do you expect? If they can get ahead they will get ahead … anyone would.

    If I’m Iran, I see the yanks next door in Iraq.
    & on the other side the yanks in Afghanistan.

    The Iraq War II was a huge benefit to Iran since the Fascist Baath party were mostly Sunnis, who now have no power beyond isolated random attacks. Iran has much more influence in Iraq today than the USA does because of the Shiite connection.

    As for the USA in Afghanistan, their official stated strategy is to send in troops who walk around waiting for someone to shoot at them … no I’m not making that up, it really is their rules of engagement to do that. Iran is more than happy to watch the USA wear itself out in the “graveyard of empires”.

  218. Armadillo

    The thought of the Houthis operating drones and welding bits back onto anti-ship missiles makes me think of Wile. E. Coyote lighting ACME rockets.

    Exactly.

  219. feelthebern

    PM just said 100 punters have registered to top themselves when the Victorian laws go live.
    What a pack of wusses.
    If you want to end it all, man up, fill yourself with 5 grams of coke, dial up a busload of hookers & root yourself to death.

  220. feelthebern

    I forgot to add a boatload of viagra too.

  221. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    If we’re spilling the beans on our ages, you’d be quite surprised, I’m actually this guy.

    I just love Father’s Days. I can’t remember when my wife’s anniversary was though…

  222. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    If you want to end it all, man up, fill yourself with 5 grams of coke, dial up a busload of hookers & root yourself to death.

    At my age? I’d die cutting the bloody stuff up on a mirror before the stupid slags got here! Plus it would get in the way of my collections of old unmatched nails and screws that I “might” use one day.

  223. Candy

    P.
    She has been hoodwinking folk for the best part of 7 or 8 years with elaborate tales. I am finding it downright weird.

  224. JC

    PM just said 100 punters have registered to top themselves when the Victorian laws go live.
    What a pack of wusses.
    If you want to end it all, man up, fill yourself with 5 grams of coke, dial up a busload of hookers & root yourself to death.

    Go live? 🙂

    Hope they call the hotline as I love the business.

  225. Stimpson J. Cat

    God you old people are depressing.

  226. Top Ender

    Who is it?

    XXXXXXX was a trash-talking basketball player and Super Mario fan who wore a pistol on his waist aged 11 as he soaked up Bond movies in his private cinema, household staff reveal.

    The ‘little dictator’ was spoiled by his late father with video games, pinball machines and a luxurious cinema for watching Ben Hur, Dracula and James Bond.

    [Dad] gave his son a specially modified car at the age of seven and the boy wore a Colt .45 handgun on his waist at the age of 11 while living at the colossal gated compound where he grew up….

  227. Stimpson J. Cat

    Jim Jong.
    Or Dennis Rodman.

  228. I forgot to add a boatload of viagra too.

    Cialis is better.
    In this I speak from experience.
    Including extensive comparative testing.

  229. Knuckle Dragger

    Right now the USS George Washington and USS Independence are doing doughnuts in the Strait of Hormuz. 2000 Marines from the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit and 7000 US Army combat troops are in Bahrain.

    I really don’t care if the US has a crack or not, but if they do they should learn the lesson of past conflicts.

    No limited engagement. No hearts and minds. No surgical strikes. Carpet bomb the entire country and send the A-10 Warthogs against the convoys of survivors, who can then cram into Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan. Armour and infantry (more than 10,000, obviously) take and hold ground.

    Make the funeral pyres burn for months.

    Hang the surviving sheikhs, instruct the media to eat many dicks, make Iran the next US State and ask Putin if he really wants to dance. Make the Crimea annexation look like a hiccup.

    Because if they’re not prepared to do all of that, they should piss off and stop pretending that they might.

  230. JC

    I’m 36, Stimson and will always be 36.

  231. P

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3045075, posted on June 17, 2019 at 9:11 pm

    I was fortunate enough to have an appointment made by for me by a GP (who refused me valium) to a Neurologist because of my BPPV who gave me a prescription of 50 valium tabs and told me to come back anytime I needed. Fortunately I have never had one of those valium but feel comforted by the fact that they are in my cupboard should I need them.
    And yes I have used alcohol instead, so saving the valium which I should not have needed to.

  232. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tel – The reason the Iranians put chunky antiship missiles at the choke point in the Red Sea is obvious. The reason for sending a message to tanker traffic through the Strait of Hormuz is also obvious. The problem for the Iranians is their attempts at strategy haven’t been working, and the US is squeezing harder with sanctions. The squawks from inside the more excitable bits of the IRG, whose wallets are hurty, must be becoming deafening in Tehran.

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