Tuesday Forum: June 18, 2018

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2,505 Responses to Tuesday Forum: June 18, 2018

  1. Entropy

    The Bradfield scheme is illogical. Totally, utterly, brain dead illogical. There is plenty of potentially irrigatable land in the Burdekin and Atherton Tablelands without shipping water hundreds of kms along flat ground. Idiocy.

  2. Ellie

    Calli, that book looks a tad old. I think there’s a newer version.

  3. Instead he’s expanded Angus Taylor’s portfolio to “Energy and Emissions Reductions”.
    Not a promising start.

    Be honest.
    You were all actually expecting something different.

    How does that old saying go:
    “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
    Fool me over and over, and you must be an Australian party politician, and I must be an idiot”.

  4. cohenite

    Notafan

    #3046592, posted on June 19, 2019 at 2:10 pm

    So the case turned on the meaning of the word procure? Not the boy’s age which since she was a teacher is important via in loco parentis.

  5. Ellie

    So today I have on my MAGA tshirt under my corporate attire, in support of da Man. ❤

  6. cohenite

    Entropy

    #3046601, posted on June 19, 2019 at 2:32 pm

    I think you should put your well crafted objections to David Stockwell.

  7. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Ellie, was that title not in your Ladybird book collection when you were young?

  8. Notafan

    Cohenite.

    Queensland does not have “special care” ie in loco parentis legislation, unlike other states so they apoear to have relied on legislation designed to fit on line grooming situations.

    Probably why the boy’s consent was an issue.

    I don’t see any point in arguing ‘in loco parentis ‘ when that can not be relevant issue to considerif the legislation doesn’t specify special care responsibility but rather ‘procurement’

    Unless you want the law to mean whatever you want it to mean at that particular moment you want it to mean that.

  9. Ellie

    Ellie, was that title not in your Ladybird book collection when you were young?

    I don’t recall needing a book.

  10. There is plenty of potentially irrigatable land in the Burdekin and Atherton Tableland

    Which just happens to be a thousand kilometres from civilisation and in an unbearable climate for most people. Especially since crop farming is hard, strenuous outdoor work.

    Speaking of people, those who originally joined in the bandwagon declaring the Bradfield Scheme “totally, utterly, brain dead illogical” were much the same crowd who declared CY O’connor’s pipeline to Kalgoorlie would never work.

  11. calli

    The Beloved has CNN on the TV. The snark, the dumb and the smugnorance.

    I’m losing the will to live.

  12. Ellie

    Calli, my mum wouldn’t let me read Enid Blyton books.

    Love the title of that book though. Much better.

  13. cohenite

    Unless you want the law to mean whatever you want it to mean at that particular moment you want it to mean that.

    That has always been my approach.

    In respect of in loco parentis not applying in QLD, are you sure about that?

  14. You were all actually expecting something different?
    AND
    Is Professor Davidson’s Libertarian blog also the classifieds?

    WANTED.
    One set of low mileage cojones in working order.
    Contact [email protected]

  15. slackster

    Don a tutu and say you identify as a wymminses and suddenly you’re a game winning forward. If anyone complains report them to a Behavioural Awareness Officer.

    Won’t even have to do that if that new Victorian law allowing you to change your Birth Certificate gender gets up

  16. Nelson Kidd-Players

    I’d actually forgotten about Ladybird books, but distant memories suggest they figured in my life at an early stage. We had the Endeavor series when I was in lower primary, with all the materials coming out of impressive-looking boxes, with colour-keyed levels.

    That and the folding metal book cabinet on castors in the corner of the classroom, looking like a squashed and elongated darlek in dark grey.

  17. Ellie

    I don’t recall having any Ladybird books, Nelson. Lots of others. Roald Dahl was my favourite.

  18. Tom

    So today I have on my MAGA tshirt under my corporate attire, in support of da Man. ❤

    I’m now watching the rerun of the Orlando speech (which I’d watched earlier, but with distractions).

    He has dreamed of doing this for 30 years and had written his keynote rally speeches, like today’s 2020 campaign launch, in his head years ago.

    He’s a natural. He was born to do this. He’s an entertainer. Not bad for an anti-politician. (It helps if you have an IQ of 150-160.)

    The DNC will make even bigger fools of themselves this time if they keep pretending the high energy and punter engagement of the Trump rallies isn’t happening.

    Unless the Dems start actually doing issues (health care, infrastructure, etc) to counter Trump’s massive popular lead in immigration reform and the hot economy, they could have Elvis Presley or Mary Magdalene standing for them on Tuesday, November 3, 2020, and they would zero chance of taking the White House.

  19. Ellie

    Maybe at school. Can’t remember.

  20. Dr Faustus

    The Grauniad grudgingly agrees that Iran might have done it, but was provoked:

    The sophistication of the attacks on two shipping tankers in the Gulf of Oman last week had already led most independent analysts to conclude Iran was responsible for the high-profile explosions.

    I’m very far from an expert in such things, but I’m struggling to find the sophistication in the Iranian attacks as reported:

    – Set off at night in Iranian fast boats on a super-sophisticated ‘plausible deniability’ mission to “make the point that Iran can impose a cost on the United States, and that the US can’t police the waterway around the strait of Hormuz”;
    – Spotted by a US Reaper drone;
    – Fire SAM3 at drone – thus self-identifying as sophisticated attacker;
    – Miss, but press on regardless;
    – Place limpet mines at convenient fast-boat deck level and retire immediately;
    – Fail to count the bangs;
    – See the US TV footage of ‘supposed’ unexploded munition attached to the tanker;
    – Return to the target in daylight and sophisticatedly remove the ‘supposed’ munition to preserve deniability while smiling for the USN surveillance cameras;
    – Do the usual Iranian dick stuff; detain crew and obstruct salvage boats;
    – Spittle-faced Death-to-America denial;
    – Japan is now an enemy for life for embarrassing Shinzo Abe on the World Stage.

    Appears more cluster-fucked than sophisticated. But nevertheless, it has received great reviews by Trump haters and enemies of the US generally.

  21. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Yeah, I read the earlier Dahl, but not the latter. A quick check of his biography shows Danny was the latest title I read, presumably just before discovering Tintin and Asterix. BFGs only entered my consciousness through my daughter’s reading habits.

  22. Notafan

    Cohenite

    I linked both the age of consent laws as they apply in every state and the specific legislation that this woman was charged under, so yes I’m sure.

    Queensland is either the only one, or one of two states that do not have ‘special care” legislation so yes I’m sure I’m sure,

    You can always check for yourself if you don’t believe the Australian government websites.

  23. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    catch up post

  24. Notafan

    And pretty obvious, too, if Queensland did have special care laws it wouldn’t matter of the boy had consented, she would have been convicted because that is the entire purpose of special care laws!

  25. Nelson Kidd-Players

    I wonder if there’s a difference whether you revise your gender on your birth certificate before or after engaging in horizontal activities with students under your care…

  26. cohenite

    Queensland is either the only one, or one of two states that do not have ‘special care” legislation so yes I’m sure I’m sure,

    In loco parentis is not a product of statute even though it is implied in a number of Statutes.

  27. Ellie

    Tom, did you know that Trump has an economics degree, like our Mr Abbott, and our host here? Trying to make some kind of a link here. Hmm🤔

  28. feelthebern

    Queensland is either the only one, or one of two states that do not have ‘special care” legislation so yes I’m sure I’m sure,

    Who needs special care legislation when the queensland coppers are on the beat.

    https://twitter.com/JordanKoster9/status/1141192944755462144

  29. feelthebern

    Trump has a real MBA from Wharton.
    Wharton is a real business school.

  30. feelthebern

    Unlike Harvard & Yale, Wharton doesn’t have a global fly-in, fly-out 6 week MBA program.

  31. Arky

    Tom

    #3046055, posted on June 18, 2019 at 8:26 pm
    Nothing here is changing my plans.

    Good. You’re fucking off, then.

    Loudmouth smartarse.

    Just like Numbers.

  32. cohenite

    Who needs special care legislation when the queensland coppers are on the beat.

    https://twitter.com/JordanKoster9/status/1141192944755462144

    That’s amusing and given the ethnic gentleman declared he had just come from court, did nuthin and did not touch the girl the situation has all sorts of reasonances.

  33. feelthebern

    That queensland copper will be given sensitivity training & put on leave.
    The “I did nothing, I did not touch her” chap will be given an Order of Australia.

  34. Ellie

    Arky, when I get home from work we need to talk.

  35. feelthebern

    Arky is having his period.
    Tom is a good chap.

  36. feelthebern

    The copper’s tackling style was so 1980’s.
    Go low, chop the legs out.
    He could have had his head in a better position though.
    If you tried to tackle Gordon Tallis like that, a broken jaw would be the result.

  37. Knuckle Dragger

    Of course, the incomparable Marilyn Shepherd had to stick her head into that Twitter feed.

    It would appear by the commentary that Queensland have found their new defensive coach prior to Origin II.

  38. stackja

    NSW Policeman Bumper Farrell

    Farrell, Francis Michael (Frank) (1916–1985)
    by Andy Carr

    His nickname, `Bumper’, originated in high school, where he surreptitiously smoked cigarette butts, known as `bumpers’.

  39. Zaphod

    Marco Rubio
    @marcorubio
    The skepticism in these stories on Pentagons claims that #Iran is responsible for tanker attacks is stunning.

    Is their theory that dozens of career military professionals are complicit in fabricating evidence of Iran’s role?

    Ha!

  40. Notafan

    I think that is why it is called “special care’ legislation Cohenite.

  41. Dr Faustus

    The make-up of Australia’s next parliament confirmed

    The new Senate will comprise 35 coalition members, 26 Labor, nine Greens, two One Nation, two Centre Alliance, one Australian Conservatives and Jacqui Lambie. All 151 House of Representatives seats have now been declared.

    So, a big fuck you very much for Miserable Ghost.
    And thanks for playing, Mr Shorten and Dr DiNatale.

  42. stackja

    Next there will be reports that Japan was not responsible for the attack on Pearl Harbor.

  43. Notafan

    Hungarian national known to police charged with unlawful stalking and public nuisance
    news report on tackle man

  44. Stimpson J. Cat

    At 52

    Look, there is no shame in being literally at least a decade older than me.
    I automatically assume everyone on this site is old and delicate, it’s why I always treat you all with such gentle care and respect.
    The real issue is that I am not very comfortable dating or anything otherwise with anyone who purposefully refers to their boyfriend or girlfriend as a “partner”.
    This is just unseemly behavior.
    😁
    Dinner or coffee would be fine however, assuming you can cook.
    You have to ask Women these days if they can you know.

  45. Good afternoon Elle,

    I’m sorry Elle, but at only 52 you are young enough to be my daughter.
    In fact I have a son, “Firstborn” who is only a year younger than you.

    I’m afraid this means no more “naughty corner” together I’m afraid.
    Otherwise other Cats will accuse me of cradle snatching.

  46. thefrollickingmole

    cohenite
    #3046590, posted on June 19, 2019 at 2:09 pm
    thefrollickingmole

    #3046583, posted on June 19, 2019 at 1:58 pm

    Good idea; I’ve passed it on; your cheques in the mail.

    Based loosely on this..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_Railway_of_Western_Australia

    In December 1883, John Waddington representing a syndicate of English capitalists, proposed to Governor Broome to build a line from York via Northam, Newcastle, Bejoording, New Norcia and along the Berkshire Valley to Geraldton under a land grant scheme. A parliamentary select committee recommended the route be altered to branch off from the Eastern Railway at Guildford and run via Chittering, Bindoon, Victoria Plains, Carnamah, Arrino, Upper Irwin and Dongara to Walkaway where it would join the Western Australian Government Railway’s line from Geraldton. The agreement was signed on 27 February 1886, with work commencing a few days later.[1][2]

    Under the land grant scheme, 12,000 acres (4,900 ha) of land was granted for every mile of railway completed, a total of 3,319,000 acres (1,343,000 ha). The consortium was able to select land within 40 miles (64 km) of the new railway. Financing problems delayed construction with construction being suspended in June 1887. The Government tried to rescind the contract, but could not as the consortium had until 1890 to complete the first 160 kilometres of the line.[1][2][3][4]

    On 21 March 1890, the Midland Railway Company of Western Australia was floated on the London Stock Exchange and Herbert Bond purchased John Waddington’s shareholding in the consortium and work recommenced on the 446 kilometre line from both ends.[1]

    So 90% of funding questions are moot, worst case scenario the project collapses 1/2 way through and the investors lose their dough.

    But hey, lets install fraudband so people can download pron and GOT quicker, sometimes, in some locations.

  47. stackja

    Raban Alou appeals for shorter sentence over Curtis Cheng murder
    A young Sydney man who saluted ‘you know who’ as he was jailed for 44 years for aiding a terrorist act, the murder of police accountant Curtis Cheng, has told a court he wants a shorter jail term and no longer supports terrorist organisations.
    The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    June 19, 2019 12:56pm

    A young Sydney man who saluted ‘you know who’ as he was sentenced for aiding a terrorist act has told a court he wants a shorter jail term and no longer supports terrorist organisations.

    Raban Alou sourced the loaded gun used by Farhad Jabar — also referred to as Farhad Mohammad — to kill accountant Curtis Cheng outside NSW Police headquarters in October 2015.

    The 22-year-old, who is appealing the sentence and said in recorded prison phone calls he would never say sorry, on Wednesday apologised for the attack when addressing the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal.

    “(I have) remorse, I’m sorry, I’ve done wrong,” he said under cross-examination.

    Alou said he changed allegiance from ‘you know you’ to al-Q- while in prison but hasn’t supported any particular organisation for the past eight months.

    “I don’t know much about (al-Q), if I do see something good in them I will support them,” he said.

  48. stackja

    Thousands caught in Sydney vaccine bungle
    Authorities are trying to contact thousands of patients vaccinated by two Sydney GPs after vaccines were found to have expired or not been stored properly.
    Roje Adaimy, Australian Associated Press
    an hour ago

    Thousands of patients of a Sydney GP clinic – including children – may need to be re-vaccinated after it was discovered some shots were incorrectly stored or had expired.

    NSW Health on Wednesday warned vaccines administered by doctors Darrel and Brinda Weinman at their Burwood practice since 2010 may not have been effective.

    It includes shots for measles, mumps and rubella, meningococcal, pneumococcal and other adult vaccines.

    Sydney Local Health District’s Dr Leena Gupta said patients are being advised to see a new GP about the need for revaccination.

  49. Speedbox

    For those interested in such things…..

    Russian military gets first batch of futuristic Udav handguns

    The state-of-the-art Udav handgun, described as one of the most powerful pistols in the world, has begun a trial run with the Russian military. It is intended to replace the sturdy but aging Makarov sidearm, in use since 1950s.

    The Udav (‘Boa’ in Russian, a blunt-nosed snake) was cleared for mass production after successfully passing the state tests, which saw the weapon exposed to dust, sand and temperatures ranging from minus 50 to plus 70 Celsius.

    The nine millimeters auto-loading handgun has a magazine capacity of 18 bullets, which is ten more than the Makarov.

    The new pistol’s engagement range is almost two times greater, reaching 100 meters. The Udav is also lighter and easier to operate than the Makarov, due to the incorporation of composite materials.

    Udav can fire all types of 9mm bullets, including tracer, armor-piercing and expanding ammunition. What makes the pistol even more menacing are the subsonic and increased penetrability bullets, which were especially developed for it.

    The handgun’s futuristic design isn’t just for looks, as it provides the option of using the Udav with a silencer and a laser scope.

    A civilian version of the new Russian handgun will be released later this year, with the producers saying that Udav will be able to challenge the likes of Colt, Walther and Glock on the market.

  50. Next there will be reports that Japan was not responsible for the attack on Pearl Harbor.

    Everyone knows it was a false flag attach so they could test their nukes.

  51. stackja

    Woman charged over Sydney unit murder
    Police have charged a 29-year-old woman with murder after a 23-year-old woman plunged to her death from a Sydney unit.
    Australian Associated Press
    an hour ago

    A woman has been charged with the murder of a young Sydney woman, who plunged to her death from an inner city unit block.

    She has since been charged with murder and taking and driving a conveyance without the consent of the owner.

  52. Leigh Lowe

    Unless the Dems start actually doing issues (health care, infrastructure, etc) to counter Trump’s massive popular lead in immigration reform and the hot economy, they could have Elvis Presley or Mary Magdalene standing for them on Tuesday, November 3, 2020, and they would zero chance of taking the White House.

    Mary Magdalene has a birth certificate problem.
    Both her and Elvis have a death certificate problem.

  53. stackja

    Speedbox
    #3046673, posted on June 19, 2019 at 4:23 pm

    Expect OMG to soon be using in disputes.

  54. Ellie

    Dinner or coffee would be fine however, assuming you can cook.

    Stimpson, you and this precious Jewish princess on a date? Only if we don’t get into a discussion about Israel.
    Yes, I can cook. I’m spectacular in the kitchen!

  55. Ellie

    Dinner or coffee would be fine however, assuming you can cook.

    Stimpson, you and this precious J*wish princess on a date? Only if we don’t get into a discussion about Israel.
    Yes, I can cook. I’m spectacular in the kitchen!

  56. stackja

    High Court rules sperm donor is a father
    The High Court has ruled state law should not apply in the case of a sperm donor arguing he’s the legal father of a child.
    Australian Associated Press
    an hour ago

    The ladies been spermed?

  57. Ellie

    Stimpson, I’ve dated bald men. Never a mentally ill one though. Assume your compliant with your meds.

  58. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yes, I can cook. I’m spectacular in the kitchen!

    Look how quick the tune changes when she finds out I’m a younger, innocent Man.
    Outrageous Catallaxy Cougars!!!
    😁

  59. stackja

    Kings Cross story reminds of Doll House
    Got a hammer, nail
    And a hunk a wood
    I’ll build a doll house

  60. Ellie

    Outrageous Catallaxy Cougars!!!

    Good title for a book. Or a calendar 😁
    Can you imagine! 😁

  61. Graham

    Let the record show that the latest country shopper judgment today about the sign off needed from 2 doctors to get yourself a Medevac transfer to Australia is from Mordy Bromberg who potted Andrew Bolt.

    See CCA19 v Secretary, Department of Home Affairs [2019] FCA 946

  62. Ellie

    Good afternoon Elle,

    I’m sorry Elle, but at only 52 you are young enough to be my daughter.
    In fact I have a son, “Firstborn” who is only a year younger than you.

    I’m afraid this means no more “naughty corner” together I’m afraid.
    Otherwise other Cats will accuse me of cradle snatching.

    Doomlord’s naughty corner is only for consenting adults.
    See you there again soon.

  63. thefrollickingmole

    Such a classy sheep-head.

    Marilyn Shepherd

    @MarilynShephe15
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    Hey stupid city pple, next time you hear farmers whining about droughts and floods and putting their hands out for more cash, remember what scabs they have been this fucking election

    Say the bludger who has been on DSP since about 1999 but somehow manages a solid 8 hrs a day of spittle flecked invective against those who pay her well padded arse to wallow in its own misery.

    And just another run of the mill anti-dead sea pedestrian-ite.
    Its so predictable its not funny. Scatch a “compassionista” find another blockwart waiting to dob in the Galileans.

    Marilyn Shepherd
    @MarilynShephe15
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    Our lazy media need to get their heads out of their backsides and learn that I…..l is an apartheid terrorist state by declaration and always has been.

    Marilyn Shepherd
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    Our major party pollies don’t like Assange because he exposed their Zio….t pro US stance

  64. Leigh Lowe

    I’m afraid this means no more “naughty corner” together I’m afraid.
    Otherwise other Cats will accuse me of cradle snatching.

    Catallaxy is now Zimmer-Tinder.

  65. jupes

    So an AFL player bets $36 on a game he is playing in, self reports, and gets a 22 week ban with 12 suspended.

    What a fucking idiot.

    Why would you self-report? If you know it’s wrong just don’t do it again you stupid twit. And the Pies’ football manager should hang his head in shame as well. He should have told to him to shut up and pull his head in.

  66. stackja

    memoryvault
    #3046693, posted on June 19, 2019 at 4:57 pm
    That’s not a doll house.
    This is a doll house.

    This is another

  67. Catallaxy is now Zimmer-Tinder.

    You’ve done it again, Lo Lowe!!
    You must let the rest of us in your secret.
    Are you clairvoyant? Psychic powers? Talk to the spirit world?

  68. This one needs to be put down:

    “The conclusion shows that very many people have died indescribably hideous deaths for no reason, that more may suffer in similar ways and that all of us live on a planet where extreme wickedness may be found in the power of those, for the time being, running a country with one of the oldest civilisations known to modern man.”

    The Chinese civilisation died in 1949 and was replaced by one of the sicker regimes of the last two centuries – the Communinist State.

  69. stackja

    Brothers accused of Heyington police bashing allegedly shaved heads to avoid arrest

    The father of two youths accused of viciously attacking one of Victoria’s most senior cops has been charged with threatening police online. It comes after he allegedly lashed out at the high-profile victim on social media.
    GENEVIEVE ALISON and REBEKAH CAVANAGH, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    13 minutes ago

    The father of two men who allegedly savagely bashed a police commissioner has been charged with threatening police online.

    Jared Pihlgren, 49, will face court over a series of vile social media posts in which he allegedly menaced officers and labelled them “maggots” and “dogs”.

    He has been charged with recording court proceedings, intimidating law enforcement officers and use a telecommunication device to menace.

    He is expected to front the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court shortly.

  70. stackja

    Evicted Carlton fan engages top law firm to clear name and demand apology from AFL

    The Carlton fan accused of running across two bays at Marvel Stadium to hurl abuse at an umpire at a Carlton game has followed through on his legal threat against the AFL, engaging a top law firm to act on his behalf.
    Michael Warner, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    11 minutes ago

    Lawyers for footy’s flog man have fired a legal letter to the AFL demanding a formal apology and retraction of claims he “ran across two bays of seats” to abuse umpire Mathew Nicholls.

    Top law firm Holding Redlich have been engaged by “Frankie”, the Carlton member evicted from Marvel Stadium two weeks ago for calling Nicholls a “bald-headed flog”.

    AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan claimed on 3AW last Friday that Frankie had run in an aggressive and intimidating manner towards Nicholls during the clash against the Brisbane Lions.

    The Blues supporter is adamant he never left his seat on Level 1. He believes he has been vilified and defamed.

    Asked on Tuesday whether he maintained that Frankie had run across two bays, McLachlan said: “That was my advice at the time”.

    Citing the AFL on June 11, The Age newspaper said the Carlton fan was “evicted for ‘spooking’ (the) umpire by running, screaming, waving his arms”.

  71. One J**ish-American’s view of Trump, informed by the history of his escape from the Third Reich.

  72. stackja

    Trainers unite to voice concerns over sale of Sandown racecourse

    The rumour mill has gone into overdrive since plans for a $300m redevelopment of Caulfied were made public and Victorian trainers have declared they don’t want Sandown sold to fund it.
    Russell Gould, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    June 19, 2019 12:20pm

    Plans for a $300 million redevelopment of Caulfield have sent rumours about the future of Sandown into overdrive and the Australian Trainers’ Association fears the suburban track will be sold to fund the new works.

    All Victorian trainers have been sent text messages and emails asking for their thoughts on the Sandown discussion which ATA president Robbie Griffiths will put to the Melbourne Racing Club at a meeting on June 26.

    The MRC, which controls both Caulfield and Sandown, announced its bold plans last month, including new grandstands and building a second racing track, with phase one set to begin as soon as the end of this year.

    Sandown Towers?

  73. Slim Cognito

    Probably already covered here but interesting to contract these two ABC stories regarding the Matilda’s pay.

    Firstly from 2016 after they were flogged by a boys team;

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-28/matildas-face-backlash-after-loss-to-boys-team/7456458

    and now;

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-18/matildas-vs-socceroos-gender-pay-gap-is-real/11218580

  74. Tel

    The Chinese civilisation died in 1949 and was replaced by one of the sicker regimes of the last two centuries – the Communinist State.

    That’s wrong. The last democratic government of China did survive by escaping to Taiwan … might not survive much longer, but so far so good.

  75. Slim Cognito

    “contrast” – bloody autocorrect.

  76. stackja

    Grieving Queensland widow asks to use dead husbands sperm for baby

    A Queensland widow has asked the Supreme Court for the green light to use her late husband’s sperm harvested just hours after he died unexpectedly from a heart attack at the age of 38.
    Vanda Carson, court reporter, The Courier-Mail
    Subscriber only

    19 minutes ago

    A QUEENSLAND widow has asked the Supreme Court for the green light to use her late husband’s sperm harvested just hours after he died unexpectedly from a heart attack aged 38.

    Dr Jennifer Johanna Gaffney, 35, an anaethetist and mother of one from Coorparoo, told the court she wants to forge ahead with her husband Daniel’s dream of having two or three children.

    Court finds sperm donors are legal parents

    She said she wanted to have a sibling for their son Nate, who was 18 months old when his father died.

    Daniel, a dermatologist, died on November 5 or 6 last year from a coronary artery dissection which causes heart attack.

    He was staying at a hotel in Birtinya while working at the Sunshine Coast university hospital for work.

    Hours after he died Dr Gaffney called her fertility doctor, Dr Clare Boothroyd who agreed to contact the coroner to request the removal of Daniel’s sperm.

    His right testicle was removed at the hospital on November 7, then was frozen and transported to Care Fertility in Greenslopes, she told the court.

    Dr Gaffney was forced to go to court for permission because there are no laws in Queensland which apply to the use of sperm after death.

  77. stackja

    Administrator trying to stop Gold Coast boat builder Pacific Blue Cruisecat from sinking

    For the second time this month a Queensland boating business has been placed in adminstration, although there’s hope this 20-year-old firm based in the state’s southeast will remain afloat.
    Darren Cartwright, The Courier-Mail
    Subscriber only

    25 minutes ago

    Not spell checked.

  78. Leigh Lowe

    stackja
    #3046702, posted on June 19, 2019 at 5:11 pm
    Evicted Carlton fan engages top law firm to clear name and demand apology from AFL

    Good.
    .

    Asked on Tuesday whether he maintained that Frankie had run across two bays, McLachlan said: “That was my advice at the time”.

    Code for “We made that up in the office to make him look bad”.
    .

    Citing the AFL on June 11, The Age newspaper said the Carlton fan was “evicted for ‘spooking’ (the) umpire by running, screaming, waving his arms”.

    “Spooking” you say?
    Um, I have seen the photos.
    The bald headed flog was exiting via an access race which has a head-height of minimum 2.1 metres, plus the concrete stand footings (minimum 0.5m). There was no way the fan could physically reach the bald headed flog without jumping into the race where there were 4-5 Behavioural Officers waiting.
    Oh, and the Age report was a full three days after the flog incident. Plenty of time to check the multiple CCTV cameras, which would have shown nothing.
    .
    Frankie has evidence that his assigned seat was precisely where he was standing when the bald headed flog passed by.
    Might be time for Gillon McPolo-Pony to eat a shit sandwich.

  79. Dr Gaffney was forced to go to court for permission because there are no laws in Queensland which apply to the use of sperm after death.

    Is it just me?
    I would have assumed if there were no laws which apply to the use of sperm after death,, then the widow could use the sperm without anybody’s permission.

  80. jupes

    Probably already covered here but interesting to contract these two ABC stories regarding the Matilda’s pay.

    LOL

    Excellent work Slim

  81. Leigh Lowe

    jupes
    #3046697, posted on June 19, 2019 at 5:06 pm
    So an AFL player bets $36 on a game he is playing in, self reports, and gets a 22 week ban with 12 suspended.
    What a fucking idiot.
    Why would you self-report? If you know it’s wrong just don’t do it again you stupid twit. And the Pies’ football manager should hang his head in shame as well. He should have told to him to shut up and pull his head in.

    I’ll bet you $36 that his “mate” put him in. Some of the entourage of hangers-on around AFL/NRL players are very ordinary blokes, all liking to think they are first among equals in the inner circle. They behave like 13 year old girls at the merest perceived slight.
    But I agree.
    Remember his ‘mate’ used his own betting account.
    Unless there were witnesses or some clear bank transfer, I would have said “Yeah, nah. We were chatting about who would score first goal, or get most possessions. I had no idea my mate was placing bets. But anyway they weren’t placed on my behalf.”
    They were all losing bets, so the ‘mate’ wouldn’t have transferred winnings to the player.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    I though ecological spirituality is something druids do.

    California Bishops Decry ‘Climate Disruption,’ Call for ‘Ecological Spirituality’

    Guys I recommend you read Leviticus 19:11 and do what it says, before you suffer from some real old fashioned Revelation-style warming.

  83. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    numbers is a coward, trying to make up for the fact by trolling on a right wing blog. sad.

  84. Leigh Lowe

    Cutting a knacker off, extracting the sperm with a butter knife and freezing the sperm has become Mrs L’s preferred mode of transfer.

  85. Entropy

    memoryvault
    #3046712, posted on June 19, 2019 at 5:28 pm
    Dr Gaffney was forced to go to court for permission because there are no laws in Queensland which apply to the use of sperm after death.

    Is it just me?
    I would have assumed if there were no laws which apply to the use of sperm after death,, then the widow could use the sperm without anybody’s permission

    IVF clinic probably wants to avoid any possible liability. So not going the final step until it has some kind of cover.

  86. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The ladies been spermed?

    speaking of which, spermidine has been show to increase lifespan… just saying…

  87. Tom

    Might be time for Gillon McPolo-Pony to eat a shit sandwich.

    Ex-Currant Bun AFL reporter Mark Stevens, who’s been covering football forever and now does it for the Stokes network, this week told RSN (where he has a breakfast radio gig) his information was that McPolo-Pony would be gone in as little as six months.

    He is clearly out of his depth as crooked businessman Andrew Demetriou’s successor at the AFL. He does only three months work every five years negotiating the football monopoly’s TV rights deal.

    He’s basically unemployable outside the AFL, though he seems to have the knack of a photogenic ruling class rat for failing upward.

  88. Speedbox

    thefrollickingmole
    #3046695, posted on June 19, 2019 at 4:59 pm

    Such a classy sheep-head.

    Marilyn Shepherd

    …..remember what scabs they have been this fucking election
    ….learn that I…..l is an apartheid terrorist state by declaration and always has been.

    Then this gem:

    ……somehow manages a solid 8 hrs a day of spittle flecked invective…..

    Pot, meet kettle.

    Wow, what a nasty piece of work.

  89. right wing blog

    Not according to the spiel above the title pic –
    “Australia’s leading libertarian and centre-right blog”

  90. Ladies. Forget sperm donors!

    You buy the real commercial thing!

    (even though Arky offered his services for free).

  91. JC

    Tom

    Can you put that in plain English. The Times crossword clues are hard.

  92. thefrollickingmole

    Caol social justice for mabo wonbats and all living things now.. or something….

    Wade through this word salad and colon cleanse leftovers, its awesome in its “steam power was a bad thing” wail to neo-ludditeism.
    You can tell its written by an educated idiot, knowing enough to use buzz words to “connect” things, but so deeply pig ignorant of life before steam removed the muscle from “horsepower”.

    Here in Australia the historical coincidence of colonialism and coal sticks out like a porcupine at a nudists’ colony. Watts’s coal-fired steam engine was invented just two years before the first fleet arrived in Sydney Cove. Coal mining began near Nobbys Head in Newcastle in the 1790s, with the first coal shipment leaving now the world’s largest coal export port in 1799.

    This period also saw the march of the Australian frontiers on little cloven hooves, shepherded by settler shock troops dealing death and disease. Fleeces from these rapidly expanding pastures supplied the Lancashire wool mills, just as the steam-powered loom began to replace the hand loom. The use of coal on a commercial scale from the late 18th century powered an explosion in manufacturing between 1760 and 1840. Coal-fired industrialisation and colonial expansion were a voracious twin-headed beast.

    ..

    Coal literally stoked the engines of colonial invasion. Then “wastelands” described lands that were thought to be wasted by their inhabitants because they were left uncultivated – abundant lands that should instead be laid to waste, as it transpires, to shore up the wealth of an elite class of British capitalists.

    ..
    Climate change has a deep history ineluctably and now fatally entwined with our own. From the fossilised carbon we burn to the carbon-based economies emerging from about 1800 to the laying to waste of Indigenous lands, the death spiral of coal-fired colonialism is widening to take us all in. But on the frontlines, yet again, are Indigenous peoples.

    ..
    Naomi Klein has called these homelands “sacrifice zones” on the “disposable peripheries” of western capitalism. These are “carbon frontiers”. They represent the ongoing plunder by fossil fuel corporations of Indigenous lands increasingly vacated because of the disruptions of exacerbated storms, sea-level rise, salinisation, extinction, drought and bushfire. This latest phase of “neocolonial plunder” through fossil fuel conglomerates entrenches the environmental racism of colonialism. Climate change is colonialism’s final frontier. So land rights are at the forefront of climate justice.

    ..
    We could sense these tectonic ruptures beneath our feet from the white man’s attachment to carbon in the last federal election campaign.

    The first order of climate justice would be wresting these lands from the Coaliphate and returning them to their custodians to be restored through their intimately localised knowledge of sustainability and resource management. This is how we could avert the climate crisis, this ominous planetary deadening that coal-fired colonialism precipitated and preordained.

    • Liz Conor is a senior research fellow in history at La Trobe University. She is the author of Skin Deep: Settler Impressions of Aboriginal Women (UWAP, 2016)

    Severely educated.

  93. Knuckle Dragger

    Ho, ho, ho.

    Harry Siegman’s family managed to escape Adolf’s Chermany in 1942 and drag him with them. Mr. Siegman, who is at least 77 yet ‘writes’ with the style of a Millenial, may have been two or three years old at the time yet provides us with ‘informed’ commentary on not only his great journey of salvation but compares his ‘memories’ to today’s Trump and even more on I#rael.

    Precious little about the NINE YEARS his family had, including four of open warfare and three of sending Choos to the camps to decide if Hitler was bad or not.

    His killer punch was something about infants being ripped from their mother’s arms in today’s US. Not only was he clearly not ripped from his mother’s anything, as a toddler he wouldn’t remember anyone who was.

    Oh, and he hates Hungary’s Viktor Orban and loves Soros.

    And the photo of Trump catches him at a rally with his hand raised to admirers to the right of stage. Ooooh, must be a Nayzee salute.

    Finally, to the publication itself. The Nation, founded in 1865 (by an Irish immigrant, mind, as there were more spuds in the US at the time) boasts of its coverage of ‘progressive political and cultural news, opinion and analysis’.

    ‘Almost every editor of The Nation from Villard’s time [1900] to the 1970s was looked at for “subversive” activities and ties. When Albert Jay Nock, not long afterward, published a column criticizing Samuel Gompers and trade unions for being complicit in the war machine of the First World War, The Nation was….. suspended from the U.S. mail.’ (Yes, Wiki. That’s how easy this is.)

    Keep ’em coming, NumberHoWangLeafWindowLicker.

  94. Leigh Lowe

    Ex-Currant Bun AFL reporter Mark Stevens, who’s been covering football forever and now does it for the Stokes network, this week told RSN (where he has a breakfast radio gig) his information was that McPolo-Pony would be gone in as little as six months.

    I reckon you’re right.
    The AFL cycle of fucking up / covering up is no surprise.
    Neither is media people outside the AFL bubble (like Mike Molloy) taking the piss either.
    But Channel Stokes game-day commentators (who normally have all ten toes firmly on the AFL line) calling out the bullshit smells to me like he is Dead Polo-Pony Walking.
    The other thing is that he is a silver spoon chinless wonder who has plenty of family money and also married money. He doesn’t have the spine for a street fight. He will fall on his sword without a whimper.

  95. Tom

    About AFL CEO Gillon McLaughlin, JC? The whisper in the AFL halls of power is that he is incompetent and will be forced to quit in months.

  96. Roberto

    Mercury and Mars are looking great right now, close together in the north western sky.

  97. JC

    Oh okay,

    I don’t know why people are interested in the football. It’s a code that hates its supporters.

  98. Knuckle Dragger

    Liz Conor clearly has a PhD.

  99. Speedbox

    More from RT:

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed an order to ensure the introduction of an electronic single-entry visa from 2021 for foreigners visiting Russia.

    The service is currently available only for the Russian Far East region, where citizens of 18 countries can use electronic visas that are issued online. Starting from July 1, it will be possible to visit the Kaliningrad region using an electronic visa.

    According to Kommersant newspaper, which saw the document, national electronic visas will become valid from January 1, 2021.

    The single short-term (up to 16 days) e-visas will be universal, allowing people to visit Russia for tourism, business, and humanitarian purposes.

    The list of countries whose citizens will be eligible for electronic visas will be prepared by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

    According to Kommersant sources, China, South Korea, Japan, EU countries and non-EU Schengen states, as well as possibly New Zealand, will be included on the list. It is not currently planned to include the United Kingdom, Canada and the US on the list.

  100. Knuckle Dragger

    This is my Stephenson scenario. Yes I am a Collingwood man.

    Stephenson, a young feller (I believe) would have a pack of mates the same age around him, Did everything together, got on the piss, went hunting in pubs and so on.

    Invariably, one of these mates is a flog but tolerated within the group. Stephenson has been putting on bets with his mates’ Sportsbet accounts (like most of the players) for ages.

    They have a falling out, maybe even a punch on over his mate’s flogginess. Mate threatens to tell New Idea about the betting. Stephenson reckons it’s better in the end to front-load the whole thing rather than get shopped by his mate.

    Big price to pay, but smaller than the alternative.

  101. Atoms for Peace

    The first order of climate justice will be the CRISPR resurrection of our lost mega fauna..burp.

  102. Muddy

    Sooner or later there needs to be serious discussion about what happens in the Post-Trump Era. If the Demonrats were smart, they’d make a token effort in the next U.S. presidential election and just wait out Trump’s last term, if he wins again. When the ice age returns, they’ll have no competition, the money they saved from putting up a sock puppet, and every opportunity to wreak the destruction of the values they so loathe.

    In my mind, the biggest concern is not whether President Trump will win again, but who or what will follow, sooner or later. The next potential Dark Age is not that far away.

  103. Atoms for Peace

    JC..I never appreciated the degree of religiousity attached to AFL until I sent some time in SA. They are running out of radio spectrum as they dissect the weekly AFL tea leaves .

  104. Shy Ted

    Talking about rugby tackles, I was the smallest kid in school til a growth spurt at 15 and not at all athletic but we were all forced to play rugby union from age 8. Made my first tackle at 16. Amazing for the confidence. Have tackled loads of people since then, some of them on the field.

  105. Ragu

    The evacuation has reignited the debate about the integrity of Sydney’s high-density living just months after the Opal Tower, in Homebush Bay, faced a similar structural defect.

    The trigger boff joint across the road from Tin Bullies in Brisbane may befall such a fate. Allegedly, when they were building the foundation, they ran into a bit of trouble.

    While the engineers were sorting out that problem, the call was made to build up above ground regardless. I believe the structure was 30 stories up before work was recommenced to dig out the final 30 floors of foundation.

    So stay tuned brisbanites. I will say that concrete workers are heavily supervised, and while they are the biggest pissheads on site, they can’t get away with anything.

  106. Shy Ted

    Friend says he can provide free sperm too. Comes with free bedsheet.

  107. Tel

    His right testicle was removed at the hospital on November 7, then was frozen and transported to Care Fertility in Greenslopes, she told the court.

    Dr Gaffney was forced to go to court for permission because there are no laws in Queensland which apply to the use of sperm after death.

    How many laws in Queensland apply to chopping off a testicle after death?

  108. Knuckle Dragger

    Ted,

    What was the prevailing view on homos in rugby while you were in primary school?

    Heaven or Hell?

  109. Knuckle Dragger

    The teenage KD could have made a fortune out of selling sperm.

    And old socks.

    Waaaaaay to go KD. Once again, opportunity knocks at your door and you tell to go fark itself.

  110. zyconoclast

    Can systemic racism kill? An inquest into the death of Tanya Day could find out

    There is not usually much in the way of hope at an inquest into the cause of someone’s death.

    But lawyers for the family of Aboriginal woman Tanya Day have made an application at the Coroners Court of Victoria, which if successful, would be ground breaking.

    What killed Tanya Day?
    Aboriginal woman Tanya Day got on a train in Bendigo, and ended her day with fatal head injuries in hospital. So could unconscious bias have played a role? And how do you fix that?

    They are asking the coroner to consider whether systemic racism was a factor in her death.

    The coroner is expected to make a decision later this month and if she agrees it was, it will be the first time an Australian inquest has considered the question from the outset of proceedings.

    How Tanya Day died
    Tanya Day, 55, died of traumatic brain injuries on December 22, 2017, after she was arrested for public drunkenness on a train at Castlemaine, in regional Victoria.

    Her daughter, Belinda Stevens, said train guards came to the conclusion Ms Day was being “unruly”.

    “I don’t know that she fit that criteria at that point in time, because she was asleep on the train,” Ms Stevens said.

    Ms Stevens said four officers met the train at Castlemaine, came on board and took her mother to the local police station, where she was supposed to spend four hours in a holding cell to sober up.

    Ms Stevens said her mother fell down several times in the cell, but officers only performed verbal checks, rather than opening the door to check on Ms Day.

    When one of Ms Day’s sons arrived to pick his mother up, he was told she had been taken to hospital. Ms Stevens said the family felt health workers downplayed their mother’s condition.

    “Even my brother got the advice that she’s had ‘a small knock to the noggin’ so right from the very beginning there wasn’t a lot of clarity about what had happened,” she said.

    Ms Day died 17 days later in a Melbourne hospital.

    “There’s so many different points along her journey on that day, on the 5th of December, that led her to the ultimate outcome of her passing,” Ms Stevens said.

    “Had she not been Aboriginal would this have happened? It’s probably not likely.”

    Delivering an uncomfortable message
    It is not always comfortable for people to hear they may have unconscious biases, or be participating in systemic racism.

    But it is a message Dr Phillip Goff from the Centre for Policing Equity in US has delivered a lot.

    He has worked with 26 different police departments over the past decade and delivers what are known as “implicit bias” training seminars.

    “When they first hear about it, they hate it,” he said. “They’re like, ‘well this is just garbage, this is egghead stuff’.”

    “Then when they start to learn about it they get excited about it and then they start proselytising.”

    The principle is to do with mental shortcuts and not bigoted views. Dr Goff described it as “racism without racists”.

    “It’s not just white police and it’s not just police,” he said.

    “Anyone who has been paying attention to the cultural ethos, they’ve watched a movie, they’ve seen the nightly news,” he said.

    “They’re more likely to imagine that they’ve literally seen a gun in the hand of a black man, than a white man, even when there isn’t one.”

    He said attitudes, even progressive, anti-racism attitudes, were a very weak predictor of whether people leant on these mental shortcuts.

    Dr Goff likens these misperceptions to forgetting to pick up milk on the way home from work, despite your best intentions, because you lost track of what you were doing and found yourself driving home on the brain’s equivalent of autopilot.

    “There are some reliable ways in which we’re wrong, that go against not just what’s right in the world, but I guess our own personal values,” Dr Goff said.

    Training is only part of the solution
    Dr Goff’s centre cannot keep up with the need for their services in the US, and it is only part of the change required.

    “We do [implicit bias] trainings a lot,” he said. “It turns out trainings are relatively weak.”

    “Way more than that we do analyses of police data.”

    Police departments provide their data, and the Centre for Policing Equity’s scientists analyse it.

    “We’ve showed them; here [are] the places where you are most responsible for the bad outcomes that your community doesn’t want to see. And once they see that then they can start to change policies.”

    He said data collection was inconsistent in the US, and so the key was convincing police departments to collect the data in the first place.

    The situation in Australia
    Tamar Hopkins, a lawyer and the founder of the Police Accountability Project in Australia, who has focused her work on Victoria Police, said there was limited data in Australia.

    “One of the big problems in dealing with systemic racism is that I don’t think that Victoria Police or any police forces around Australia have a real concept of what that means,” she said.

    “Police generally consider racism to be that really bad apple, extreme, someone actually calling someone a racially derogatory term … whereas systemic racism goes far deeper.

    “In terms of what they’re doing about it? I would say very, very little.”

    She is an advocate for the data-driven policing model championed by Dr Goff.

    In particular, Ms Hopkins wants police to accurately monitor who they stop, and the reasons for those stops.

    “It’s been on the table for years … but in terms of any actual activity going toward that goal, we haven’t seen any,” she said.

    In a statement to the ABC, Victoria Police said it was auditing existing police stations to try to make them feel welcoming and safe for Aboriginal people.

    “The Victoria Police Aboriginal Inclusion Strategy and Action Plan was launched in 2018 with the goal of strengthening partnerships with the Victorian Aboriginal community and to increase Aboriginal employment, economic participation and inclusion within our organisation,” the statement said.

    “Victoria Police is committed to strengthening its partnerships with the Victorian Aboriginal community and has made a lot of progress over the years.”

    The Victorian coroner is expected to decide later this month whether to expand the scope of Ms Day’s inquest to include systemic racism.

  111. zyconoclast

    Can systemic racism kill? An inquest into the death of Tanya Day could find out

    But lawyers for the family of Aboriginal woman Tanya Day have made an application at the Coroners Court of Victoria, which if successful, would be ground breaking.

    What killed Tanya Day?
    Aboriginal woman Tanya Day got on a train in Bendigo, and ended her day with fatal head injuries in hospital. So could unconscious bias have played a role? And how do you fix that?

    They are asking the coroner to consider whether systemic racism was a factor in her death.

    Tanya Day, 55, died of traumatic brain injuries on December 22, 2017, after she was arrested for public drunkenness on a train at Castlemaine, in regional Victoria.

    Ms Stevens said four officers met the train at Castlemaine, came on board and took her mother to the local police station, where she was supposed to spend four hours in a holding cell to sober up.

    Ms Stevens said her mother fell down several times in the cell, but officers only performed verbal checks, rather than opening the door to check on Ms Day.

    In a statement to the ABC, Victoria Police said it was auditing existing police stations to try to make them feel welcoming and safe for Aboriginal people.

  112. Nob

    Nelson Kidd-Players
    #3046627, posted on June 19, 2019 at 3:13 pm
    Yeah, I read the earlier Dahl, but not the latter. A quick check of his biography shows Danny was the latest title I read,

    Danny was ace, obviously based on a true story that he’d heard (and originally wrote a non-kids version of), and great to get kids into a non-fairytale version of country life, dodging officialdom, hunting, poaching , etc.

    And eating the results.

  113. pete m

    My, there are no laws permitting the use of sperm after death, hence the need to seek permission from a court.

    In common law the executor “owns” the deceased body and is charged with arranging appropriate care.

    There is 1 judgment in qld that a court has no power or authority to permit sperm to be used over the objection of an executor.

    A more modern judge has found otherwise using the expressed wishes of the deceased as the excuse, but this is dodgy in my view.

    If the deceased wanted to permit sperm use he could have gifted the sperm in his will.

  114. pete m

    Watched John wicks 1 and 2 recently.

    1 was awesome as so different and compelling.

    2 had a cool storyline but lacked new moves in battle as he repeatedly did same stuff as in 1.

    Will see 3 when comes to Netflix I hope it has new fight scenes.

    Thanks for the rec kd

  115. Tom

    In my mind, the biggest concern is not whether President Trump will win again, but who or what will follow, sooner or later. The next potential Dark Age is not that far away.

    Relax, Muddy. Mike Pence hasn’t even turned 60. He’ll still be a spring chicken compared with Trump in 2024. He’ll have not only fabulous appeal in 2024 in an electorate sick of identity politics and divisive tactics, but also battleground experience of the methods the fascist left media will use to try to destroy him. And a yuuge campaign war chest.

  116. Speedbox

    Muddy
    #3046745, posted on June 19, 2019 at 6:08 pm

    Agreed, but the Democrats will go full tilt. Tens/hundreds of millions will be spent – to no avail.

    In my mind, the biggest concern is not whether President Trump will win again, but who or what will follow, sooner or later. The next potential Dark Age is not that far away.

    Couldn’t agree more.

  117. Diogenes

    Will see 3 when comes to Netflix I hope it has new fight scenes.

    I saw it at the movies. Visually spectacular, but ….

  118. zyconoclast

    Quebec Bans Public-Sector Employees From Wearing Religious Garb
    Canadian province is first jurisdiction in North America to make such a prohibition, drawing criticism from M00slims and civil-rights groups

    OTTAWA—Quebec will prohibit teachers, police officers and certain other public-sector employees from wearing religious symbols while on the job, making the French-speaking Canadian province the first North American jurisdiction in decades to enact such a ban.

    The new Quebec law, which also covers judges and provincial prosecutors, applies to all religious symbols including the crucifix, the government has said. Civil-liberties groups have argued it will disproportionately affect religious minorities such as M00slim women who wear head scarfs and Sikh men who wear turbans.

    The law exempts public-sector employees as long as they remain in their current positions. That exemption is lost if an employee is transferred or promoted, or if their mandate in a particular job ends. The law passed late Sunday in Quebec’s legislature by a vote of 73 to 35, after a marathon weekend session that saw the ruling Coalition Avenir Québec force an early end to the debate.

  119. Mother Lode

    This just in:

    St Agur cheese, cool climate Chardonnay with slight malolactic fermentation, and crackers.

    Further updates as events develop.

  120. Not only was he clearly not ripped from his mother’s anything, as a toddler he wouldn’t remember anyone who was.

    No, but unlike you, he can read history.
    Trump employs the well-worn three-step strategy, used so successfully between 1933 and 1939 in Germany –
    1. Identify a specific group and demonize them – in 1930 it was the J**ws, in 2016 it’s the “illegals”. Portray them as responsible for all national ills.
    2. Refer to past glories and promise national “greatness” in 1930 it was a Third Reich; in 2016 it’s MAGA.
    3. Rule by decree – Hitler’s Enabling Act – 24 March 1933; Trump’s emergency border wall declaration.

    Compare. Suggest you dig up footage of any of Hitler’s rallies, and then watch Trump in action.
    The ranting; the references to “fake news” (Lügenpresse) to attack journalists trying to report facts, the repetition of a series of rehearsed stock phrases, the call-response format of the oratory – the chanting – it’s all there.
    In Germany and Austria today, the far Right once more speaks of the Lügenpresse, in part because Trump has made the idea respectable.

    Trump’s America is a very dangerous place.

  121. Mater:

    Unless world hunger has been resolved while I wasn’t looking?
    It was a solution in search of a problem.

    I keep telling youse all –

    Green the Planet!
    Feed the poor!
    1% CO2 now!

  122. zyconoclast

    From teenvogue.com

    Why Sex Work Is Real Work
    “I do not believe it is right or just that people who exchange s3xual services for money are criminalized and I am not for what I do.”

  123. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Because some people asked:

    Men on Strike

    Compilation of Dr Helen Smith being interviewed on TV regarding her book.

    Interviews on WSJ, Fox News and News Max. Fox News including a pre-red pilled Tucker Carlson and an older and wiser Lou Dobbs.

    “the state is the husband”
    What a powerful, deeply profound statement.

  124. zyconoclast

    U.N. officials: U.S. planning a ‘tactical assault’ in Iran

    The military action under consideration would be an aerial bombardment of an Iranian facility linked to its nuclear program, the officials further claimed.

  125. C.L.

    Trump will this year open 1.4 million acres of federal land to hunters, fishermen and campers.
    Also: 7500 regulations imposed by bugmen on – you know – the owners of the land, will be scrapped.

  126. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    3. Rule by decree – Hitler’s Enabling Act – 24 March 1933; Trump’s emergency border wall declaration.

    Sure…and all US lawyers and judges are little Roland Freislers?

    You are in cuckoo cloud land Numbers, this is why I ignore you. You are mentally ill.

  127. Some History:

    But don’t ask the Public Health nut cases. They’ll tell you that every antismoking measure has been a resounding success.

    The recent crackdown on codeine consumption is most likely pushing elderly patients into the illegal market where they will get Fentanyl.
    Just like we reckoned would happen.

  128. bespoke

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3046542, posted on June 19, 2019 at 1:02 pm
    Tassie makes the international news:
    Guests watch in horror as massive huntsman spider eats a possum in their ski lodge (Fox)

    The comments are hilarious. A poster should be put up at every embassy.

  129. Mater

    Mater:

    Unless world hunger has been resolved while I wasn’t looking?
    It was a solution in search of a problem.

    And there I was sitting back quietly, resisting the temptation to take Bob apart piecemeal, when all of a sudden I’m dragged in with something I didn’t say!

    Stop baiting me, Winston.

  130. Bruce of Newcastle

    Relax, Muddy. Mike Pence hasn’t even turned 60. He’ll still be a spring chicken compared with Trump in 2024.

    Tom – Sorry I disagree. Pence is too religious for most voters I suspect. Americans are OK with a bit of such stuff with VPs but not Prez candidates.

    Biggest problem is the GOP bureauweenies will try to reestablish control once Trump is out of the picture. That may be what Romney is counting on. He has no hope but his elephant-sized ego won’t allow him to stay quiet.

  131. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hours after he died Dr Gaffney called her fertility doctor, Dr Clare Boothroyd who agreed to contact the coroner to request the removal of Daniel’s sperm.

    This is some f$cked up sh$t.
    I’m sorry but it is.

  132. Knuckle Dragger

    Facts?

    Oh, like the gorilla channel DJT was so fond of, that the staffer had to put on loop because he enjoyed it so much. That made national news? Those facts? Let alone the whole Wussia ‘facts’?

    Or the fact that unlike poor old Downfall Boy, DJT is actively moving away from involvement in foreign conflicts, unlike the deceased mannequin masquerading as a live Clinton. And the US Navy is at its lowest manpower and spending since 1940. And the US hasn’t annexed any other sovereign countries. DJT has yet to use the word ‘lebensraum’ in any speech, let alone the superiority of one race (unemployment for blacks and Spaniards is at record lows, remember?).

    Who the hell is Trump going to refer to when he talks about past glories? Frederick the Great? Otto V, Holy Roman Emperor?

    And the illegals, for that is what they are (no need to use quotes, lad) due to their propensity to rope, moider and cause billions of dollars’ worth of unnecessary expense is indeed a situation of national importance.

    If Trump’s America is so dangerous there wouldn’t be millions of Central American trying to get over the border to vote and get driver’s licences.

  133. bespoke

    *Johno offered actual first hand experiences of opting out from his fellow Diggers and 1735099 turned him down becouse of hert feeelz!.

    *Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal alternative to being conscripted. He chose not to exercise that option H/T Zulu .

    * 1735099 tried to game the system and lost H/T KD.

    * 1735099 celebrates the death of 17yr old girls H/T 1735099

    😎

  134. Stimpson J. Cat

    In my mind, the biggest concern is not whether President Trump will win again, but who or what will follow, sooner or later.

    Can You Smell…

    What The Rock…..

    Is Cooking!!!!

  135. Cassie of Sydney

    I gotta laugh at the Jooo hating bird shitter….he is nothing if not consistent. As someone who knows and has family who survived the camps I am always amused when an anti-Semite links to a well known fringe leftist Jooo who is hostile to the state of Isr**l and Donald Trump. Scumbers is always trying to camouflage his Jooo hatred by trawling through the internet to find Jooos who might be critical of Zionism. It obviously gives him some kind of adolescent thrill to think that there are leftist Joooos who are critical of Isr**l. It’s pathetic, it’s cretinous and it shows completely what a total low life he is.

    Donald Trump is not an anti-Semite……the creep Scumbers is.

  136. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Women instigate 5o% of domestic violence in the US.

    Stop it at the start, laydees!

    (Speaking of, Bill Burr on LAYDEES! – definitely NSFW)

    2 hrs worth. Goddamn.

  137. C.L.

    The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree latest …

    First, the apples: those two despicable lout brothers who bashed a man at a train station – only to find out shortly after that he was one of Victoria’s most senior police officers. Back in the 70s and 80s, they would have been shot while ‘resisting arrest.’ Police go in hard and heavy in such cases and I don’t blame them.

    Second, the tree: The cop-hating dad of two brothers accused of brutally bashing a top transit policeman is a convicted criminal with a long history of violence – as he’s CHARGED with threatening officers on Facebook.

    Have a captain at the grub.

  138. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh, and the Nuremberg chanting was organised by Goebbels.

    No such instructions were necessary for the Trump fans – who camp out for a week before his rallies – to chant ‘Lock Her Up!’ and ‘CNN Out!’

  139. stackja

    The suburb of Alexandria was once part of a vast sand dune system covered by heath, low scrub, creeks and freshwater wetlands that dominated the landscape of the southern suburbs of Sydney. It provided a habitat for a range of fauna such as birds, fish and eels, and was a good food source for the Gadigal, the local Aboriginal people.

    The land that today incorporates the areas of Alexandria, Waterloo, Zetland and Rosebery was originally one large estate. Originally granted to former convict and public servant William Hutchinson in 1823, the estate, its buildings and water mill, were then sold to Daniel Cooper and Solomon Levy in 1825 before Cooper became its sole owner in 1833.

    For a large part of the nineteenth century, the area was semi-rural low-lying land with swamps. The principal activities were market gardening, dairying and wool-washing. A number of dams were built in this area, including the Little Waterloo Dam, the Big Waterloo Dam and the Upper Dam, as shown on 1885-1890 Higinbotham and Robinson maps of Alexandria and Waterloo.

    Waterloo Council was formed in 1860. The municipality of Alexandria was separated from Waterloo and became the Borough of Alexandria in 1868. The area was connected to the city through a network of trams extending along Botany Road and Elizabeth Street.

    The land of the Cooper Estate was progressively subdivided into small acreages and sold for residential purposes in 1872 and 1884 with the final sale taking place in 1914. The release of the Cooper Estate opened up large tracts of land for industrial uses at a time when surrounding areas had become more densely populated. This resulted in the relocation of many industrial establishments from Redfern and Surry Hills to the Alexandria and Waterloo area.

    This intensive period of industrial development increased land value in the area and forced out all but a few of the remaining market gardeners. Fellmongering, tanning and wool-washing industries were typical of Alexandria. The wetlands of the area offered ideal features for these industries which needed to be located close to a plentiful water supply.

    By 1943 an Alexandria Council celebratory publication claimed that Alexandria was the largest industrial municipality in Australia, proudly proclaiming that ‘an area of 1,024 acres has been crowded not less than 550 factories’ (Alexandria Municipal Council 1943, p78). Secondary industries declined in the area from the 1970s as industry expanded to the outer suburbs.

    Now building home unit towers in these suburbs. What could possibly go wrong?

  140. Frank Walker from National Tiles
  141. Bruce of Newcastle

    The lady I’d like to see running in 2024 is Candace Owens, if she can hold it together.
    She’ll be 35 and a half at the election, so qualified.
    Would she explode lefty heads or what?

  142. Tom

    Bruce of Newk, I think you need to chill as well. Pence is regular middle America. And he now has so much intellectual property about the Dems’ methods that will be deployed against him. IMO, Pence is a lock for the White House in 2024.

  143. Cassie of Sydney

    “1. Identify a specific group and demonize them – in 1930 it was the J**ws”

    And the pontificating sanctimonious Joooo hating hypocrite continues to demonise us Joooos in 2019…oh yes I remember what he called us a few weeks ago….”religious extremists”….don’t know what others think but I reckon that is “identifying a specific group and demonising them”.

    He can’t even live up to his own putrid sanctimony….he is such a fucking hypocrite.

  144. Facts?

    Most of the improvement in the jobs figures are part of an ongoing trend that can be attributed to the Fed’s management of the economy under Janet Yellen.
    You know, the Janet Yellen that Trump needed out of the way, so he could lay claim to her achievements.
    Which specific policies, championed or enacted by Trump’s administration, have actually lowered (the still really high) black unemployment rate for which he’s claimed credit?

  145. 2dogs

    Views of the Conservative party members that will be electing Theresa May’s replacement.

    Even Boris Johnson, with his “one nation” stance, is less pro-Brexit than the party faithful.

  146. Tel

    The lady I’d like to see running in 2024 is Candace Owens, if she can hold it together.

    I like Candace Owens … most of what she is pushing is re-badged Thomas Sowell but that’s fine because in many cases it’s true, and she’s helping a lot of people by getting them seeing the picture a bit more clearly. On the other hand, I really don’t think she has the experience to be POTUS any time soon. Having her running as a candidate, and asking awkward questions in every debate might liven things up a bit.

  147. Knuckle Dragger

    Raining in England.

    Afuckinggain.

  148. Goanna

    In my mind, the biggest concern is not whether President Trump will win again, but who or what will follow, sooner or later. The next potential Dark Age is not that far away.

    With any luck Trump wins another term and drives a stake through the heart of the swamp and jails key operatives of the Democratic Party.

    The Dems don’t recover, not for a long time.

  149. Tel

    He can’t even live up to his own putrid sanctimony….he is such a fucking hypocrite.

    I doubt he can even keep track of it … I know I’ve stopped trying.

  150. Bruce of Newcastle

    No such instructions were necessary for the Trump fans – who camp out for a week before his rallies – to chant ‘Lock Her Up!’ and ‘CNN Out!’

    CNN not happy. Wah!

    CNN Cuts Away from Trump Rally After Crowd Breaks Out in ‘CNN Sucks’ Chant

    That’s ok communist news network peoples, the feeling is entirely mutual.

    Is News Polarization An American Problem?

    Depending on who you are in the United States, trust in the news has either sky-rocketed or nose-dived, according to Reuters Digital News Report.

    As Statista’s Sarah Feldman notes, about half of people on the left trust the news most of the time, while merely 9 percent of people on the right trust the news most of the time.

    About 9 percent is what I’d expect are lefties faking it in polls. In other words people on the right detest the MSM roughly on a par with ebola.

  151. Geriatric Mayfly

    After Orlando, wonder if Bozza will gather the faithful at Wembley and work them to a fever in Latin.

  152. Cassie of Sydney

    Stimpson…do you like chicken soup?

  153. Knuckle Dragger

    C’mon, Four Leaf,

    Most of the time you at least try to hide when you shift the goalposts. The ‘article’ you championed was about an informed reffo’s take on the Yanks and Hitler comparisons, gleaned from his astute observations in between shitting his own pants, wasn’t it?

    You want to disprove the universally-accepted position (even by CNN) that black and Hispanics aren’t better off, how ’bout YOU prove something for a change?

    Looking forward to links to the Green Yank Weekly and the Sanctuary City Times.

  154. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tom – Pence is, sadly I have to say, boring. As well as an observant Christian. I like him, which means he’s unelectable. I was one of the brave three hundred odd who voted for Riccardo in the election. Which shows that people I like are not the sort of people that people not like me like.

  155. bespoke

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3046629, posted on June 19, 2019 at 3:17 pm

    Top vid.

  156. Nick

    Catallaxy is now Zimmer-Tinder.

    This place has a Walter Kitty complex.
    Is anyone aged under 70 here?

  157. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Most of the improvement in the jobs figures are part of an ongoing trend that can be attributed to the Fed’s management of the economy under Janet Yellen.

    This is just lunatic copy put out by whacko organisations like The Daily Kos.

    You have absolutely no proof of what you are saying. The trend started well before 2014.

    Trump initiated huge tax cuts, then unemployment fell to levels not seen the 1970s.

    A politician (Yellen) claiming credit for trend growth is a truly absurd of claiming credit for other people’s work.

    The unemployment figures must be viewed with caution nevertheless because of the massive size of the unemployed and discouraged workers post GFC.

  158. Blomberg’s decision on the Medevac issue is common sense.
    If he had found in the government’s favour, the implication would have been that no GP can make a referral on anything but “personal engagement”.
    Scans, X-Rays, blood tests, pathology, and every other current piece of medical technology would have been ruled unacceptable.

  159. Ellie

    Stimpson…do you like chicken soup?

    Cassie, he’s being served up nourishing chicken soup with traditional matzo balls – our penicillin – as we speak.

  160. Ellie

    Stimpson…do you like chicken soup?

    Cassie, he’s being served up nourishing chicken soup with traditional matzo b*lls – our penicillin – as we speak.

  161. bespoke

    Nick
    #3046809, posted on June 19, 2019 at 7:12 pm
    Catallaxy is now Zimmer-Tinder.

    This place has a Walter Kitty complex.
    Is anyone aged under 70 here?

    Me by a lot and wish to relive my teens.

  162. Black Ball

    Evening all.
    Could it be that Numbers wanting black unemployment in the US to be high as a means to belittle President Trump? And could this be racist thinking in doing so? Wasn’t it Lyndon Johnson who said he would have blacks voting Democrat for the next 50 years? Democrats were the party of slavery after all.

  163. bespoke

    Me by a lot and no wish to relive my teens.

  164. Black Ball

    Is anyone aged under 70 here?

    Yes, by a considerable margin.

  165. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ellie
    #3046814, posted on June 19, 2019 at 7:17 pm
    Stimpson…do you like chicken soup?

    Cassie, he’s being served up nourishing chicken soup with traditional matzo b*lls – our penicillin – as we speak.”

    What a lucky man. Stimpson…you are very fortunate.

    When you’re in Jerusalem before the Sabbath…when you’re walking down the neighbourhoods where those “religious extremists” live, you can smell the chicken soup in the air.

  166. Cassie of Sydney

    “Black Ball
    #3046819, posted on June 19, 2019 at 7:21 pm
    Is anyone aged under 70 here?

    Yes, by a considerable margin.”

    I am….Elle is. We’re young

  167. bespoke

    Yes, by a considerable margin.

    But lawn bowls,BB lawn…….. bowls! 😊

  168. Tom

    Bless you, Bruce of Newk. Your experience is that of a devout Christian — i.e. someone who is being shat on from a great height by the prevailing culture. Trust me: Mike Pence is regular middle America.

  169. struth

    Nimbers………
    What does NAZI stand for?

  170. Black Ball

    It’s a young man’s game now bespoke! I am 41, been playing for 15 years.

  171. Knuckle Dragger

    And why is DJT’s US so dangerous when alllll the tiny little brown people want to go there?

    To use your own comparison, you didn’t see millions of Choos wanting to live under the benevolent hand of the Third Reich.

    Oh, sorry. He’s changed the topic. Something about doctors.

  172. What does NAZI stand for?

    I’ll play your silly game.
    What does DPRK stand for?

  173. Knuckle Dragger

    I too am a spring chicken.

    I now understand the focus on retirement funds on the Cat.

    Doesn’t bother me. Powerball will kick in.

  174. Frank

    Can You Smell…

    What The Rock…..

    Is Cooking!!!!

    Chef Rush, the Whitehouse cook. Everyone eats their greens regardless.

  175. struth

    What has Trump had to say about socialism?

  176. struth

    What did Hitler have to say about the capitalists?

  177. Black Ball

    What has Trump had to say about socialism?

    Welcome back struth. Perhaps ask Bernie Sanders.

  178. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    2,222 pushups a day, 700 lb bench press, chef, sommelier, ice carver…!

  179. Knuckle Dragger

    DPRK.

    Doddering
    Pensioners
    Rant on
    Konscription.

  180. struth

    I’m still working as a youthful 52 YO.
    The older the smarter .
    Not in all cases of course ( look at the insulated numbers) but talking about the age of cats is just moronic.
    Means nothing.

  181. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    You young whippersnappers have nothing on me.

  182. bespoke

    He! younger then struth by that much.

  183. Ellie

    …but talking about the age of cats is just moronic.
    Means nothing.

    Struth, you may have missed it.
    Lizzie outed herself as 76 (I doubt she’s that old).
    Lots of posts about that “outing”.
    Hence, the crap about age.

  184. Atoms for Peace

    I think that we should send our AFL behavior squads to Trump rallies.

  185. bespoke

    Well if Stimps can sit down with Ellie that’s a start.

  186. rickw

    Let the Kiwis know that you’re not going to visit their shit country until they stop behaving like the NORK of the Southern Hemisphere:

    https://www.newzealand.com/au/form/report-a-problem/finished/

  187. Cassie of Sydney

    Has the Cat now become an “ageist blog”…who cares how old anyone here is….age is not a factor when it comes to intellect and intelligent posts….I mean for goodness sake….look at that Jooo hating mediocrity called Scumbers…he must be in his late 60s or early 70s and yet none of what he writes is remotely intelligent or interesting.

  188. Cassie of Sydney

    “bespoke
    #3046846, posted on June 19, 2019 at 7:45 pm
    Well if Stimps can sit down with Ellie that’s a start.”

    It’s the chicken soup….it brings world peace.

  189. bespoke

    You want to disprove the universally-accepted position (even by CNN) that black and Hispanics aren’t better off, how ’bout YOU prove something for a change?

    Numberwang is still searching for “progressive mosques”.

  190. bespoke

    Cassie Dot brings the average age down to 22 so probs.

  191. Infidel Tiger

    Old people are great. It’s the Boomers we all hate.

  192. bespoke

    Next up Cassie and numberwang go for lunch.

  193. Tom

    IT, if I were you, I’d disown the shitful brand of identity politics you’re exploring before it owns you.

  194. You want to disprove the universally-accepted position (even by CNN) that black and Hispanics aren’t better off, how ’bout YOU prove something for a change?

    Show me where I wrote that blacks and Hispanics aren’t better off right now in the USA.
    What I’m questioning is that it’s all down to Trump.
    That question has (as usual on Catallaxy when any piece of politically correct orthodoxy is challenged) been completely ignored.

  195. Infidel Tiger

    But Boomers are such a target rich environment.

    They are so sensitive too.

  196. John64

    Top law firm Holding Redlich have been engaged by “Frankie”, the Carlton member evicted from Marvel Stadium two weeks ago for calling Nicholls a “bald-headed flog”.

    Anyone who calls Mathew Nicholls a “bald-headed flog” should be evicted for not going in hard enough.

  197. bespoke

    Snowflakery (TM) happens at all ages.

  198. Arky

    They are so sensitive too.

    ..
    Some of them in particular…

  199. Knuckle Dragger

    Adau Mornyang, the 24 year old Melbourne model and ambassador for the Sudanese community has lost her bid for a retrial after a jury found her guilty of rancid behaviour on an aircraft.

    On a UA flight from Melbourne to LA, she got so pissed she was cut off by the hosties (which takes some doing), screamed racial slurs and epithets, go zippy-tied for her troubles by an air marshal, locked herself in the crapper for 45 minutes before being dragged kicking and screaming from the plane.

    She will be sentenced next month. The charges carry up to 21 years in the bin.

    In traditional fashion, she claimed that two glasses of wine adversely reacted with her gut full of hillbilly heroin.

  200. Cassie of Sydney

    “bespoke
    #3046857, posted on June 19, 2019 at 7:59 pm
    Next up Cassie and numberwang go for lunch.”

    No…I don’t go out with racists.

  201. Notafan

    Candice Owens might just be old enough to run for president in 2024

  202. Steve trickler

    Gaagle will censor Soph, but porn stars on the other hand?….funny that.



  203. Arky

    You would have to be quite the mental midget to get really, really abusive and upset about a couple of quips generalising about all the people born ten years either side of you.

  204. Tom

    MAGA cutie mom lining up for last night’s Trunp rally in Orlando, FL: ” The kids couldn’t sleep last night. This is way better than Disney.”

    Sorry to burst your balloon, haters: it’s going to be a landslide.

  205. Arky

    In between policing what is said on someone else’s blog and posting a couple of cartoon links it must be exhausting.

  206. bespoke

    Ok Cassie, Arky’s and armadillo’s living together? Love is Love!

  207. Infidel Tiger

    That’s why it’s so much fun.

    When people are overly sensitive and easily offended, my natural instinct tells me they are guilty as sin. It’s why I propose a national sorry day to us from all Boomers. They must atone for being a generation of leaning, mooching and generally hopeless window lickers with more bad ideas than writers festival.

  208. Frank

    Sorry to burst your balloon, haters: it’s going to be a landslide.

    It was pretty dispiriting when Obama won the second term and that was for people with some sense of decorum. Not the end of the world though. It will be devastating for the loons on the left if Trump gets a second term.

  209. Ellie

    Ok, so just for the record, I have Tom and Arky naked in the mud.

    What?! Only good for hawt chicks?

    Heh!

  210. Knuckle Dragger

    I said record lows.

    Then you said it was due to a nobody. You were proven wrong by others.

    Now it’s ‘better off’. You’ve failed dismally and you know it.

    Tell us again how Trump’s America is so dangerous for the millions trying to get in and sponge off it.

  211. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3046743, posted on June 19, 2019 at 6:04 pm

    This is my Stephenson scenario. Yes I am a Collingwood man.

    I tend to agree that there was a floggy dobber type in thr group who maybe perceived that he wasn’t getting his rightful cut of wingman benefits.

  212. Cassie of Sydney

    “bespoke
    #3046873, posted on June 19, 2019 at 8:16 pm
    Ok Cassie, Arky’s and armadillo’s living together? Love is Love!”

    Ok…what role is Arky and what role is Armadillo?

  213. bespoke

    Not possible Ellie, Arky isn’t aloud out of the shed after 6pm.

  214. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ellie
    #3046877, posted on June 19, 2019 at 8:18 pm
    Ok, so just for the record, I have Tom and Arky naked in the mud.

    What?! Only good for hawt chicks?

    Heh!”

    What are they doing in the mud?

  215. bespoke

    Ok…what role is Arky and what role is Armadillo?

    I don’t want to think about it. 😒

  216. Leigh Lowe

    1735099

    #3046812, posted on June 19, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    Blomberg’s (sic) decision …

  217. Knuckle Dragger

    Bloody hell you people.

    Can we talk about atheism or circumcision or something? Straight lines in space?

  218. Ellie

    What are they doing in the mud?

    Wrestling

  219. Infidel Tiger

    The more that comes out about Stephenson’s gambling the worse it looks.

    He admits to doing things in games to help his bets. The truth which we will never know is probably far far worse.

    Should have got 2 years.

  220. egg_

    Oz: Union blues as Setka saga splits allies

    The CFMEU in Western Australia has joined the union’s NSW and Victorian branches to back John Setka, increasing pressure on national officials to defy the ACTU and 13 unions and publicly back the Victorian construction union boss.

    As construction union officials held crisis talks in Canberra yesterday, the West Australian secretary of the Construction Forestry Maritime Mining and Energy Union, Mick Buchan, said Mr Setka’s position should be determined by the Victorian union membership “and no one else”.

    In an email to members, Mr Buchan hit out at “disgraceful” leaking against Mr Setka and ­denied he sought to disparage anti-domestic violence campaigner Rosie Batty at a meeting of the union’s national executive. Mr Buchan said he was at the meeting and sitting close to Mr Setka.

    “What I saw was a person trying to express his personal experience of the issues he and his family have been facing,’’ Mr Buchan said. “At no time did I feel he was trying to disparage Rosie Batty or the excellent work she’s done to highlight domestic and gender-based violence in our society.”

    The ongoing controversy — fuelled by Anthony Albanese’s bid to expel Mr Setka from the Labor Party and ACTU secretary Sally McManus’s push for him to resign from the CFMEU — is causing ructions across the union ­movement.

    Retired CFMEU official Joe McDonald was accused of hypocrisy for backing Mr Setka, despite being a passionate campaigner against domestic violence because his mother was abused.

  221. egg_

    More Setkabacks for Their True Albo and McManus.

  222. struth

    What the bloody hell has happened here since I left?
    Bloody deviates.
    Too much porn.
    Back to moaning about everything please! .
    This is not cathub.com.

  223. Infidel Tiger

    Typical Carringbush spaz then laments that his team mates cost him his multi. Team mates look aghast and confront him and he has to admit he his gambling on his own games and worse he is gambling on his own performance in those games.

    Fme drunk.

  224. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #3046786, posted on June 19, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree latest …

    First, the apples: those two despicable lout brothers who bashed a man at a train station – only to find out shortly after that he was one of Victoria’s most senior police officers. Back in the 70s and 80s, they would have been shot while ‘resisting arrest.’ Police go in hard and heavy in such cases and I don’t blame them.

    Here’s the thing C.L.
    Normally you don’t seem to have much time for Plod, and I tend to cut them a bit of slack (the junior ranks at least).
    I really feel for the ordinary citizen who was bashed (and he was an “ordinary citizen” being off duty at the time).
    However, I am totally pissed off with the Police and media outrage over this one, when the attitude to the prrvious 1,256 bashings on trains and around stations has been … “Meh. Shit happens.”

  225. Armadillo

    Arky’s and armadillo’s living together?

    You people are deranged.

  226. egg_

    It will be devastating for the loons on the left if Trump gets a second term.

    Popcorn sales will go through the roof – note to JC.

  227. Siltstone

    The age of various Cats has been commented on very recently, with guessing attached. Guess the age of an Australian siltstone?

  228. Armadillo

    I’m also slightly younger than you all. Not by much though.

  229. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3046890, posted on June 19, 2019 at 8:33 pm

    The more that comes out about Stephenson’s gambling the worse it looks.

    He admits to doing things in games to help his bets. The truth which we will never know is probably far far worse.

    Should have got 2 years

    If that is the case, there might be a few Essendon players from 2012 who think he has got off light.

  230. struth

    What has happened Arma and Arky?
    I’m sitting in outer bumfuck in the out back and can finally get some reception and now this ………….

    It’s really upsetting my fucking delicate sensibilities.

  231. Infidel Tiger

    The truth is that we need lots more cops, journos and hopefully a few politicians to be very badly bashed.

    It’s the only way to get righteousness back.

  232. Nick

    The plod involved is lucky the assailants weren’t ex tree dwellers. Nothing to see there.

  233. P

    Anyone know what srr (which later became SRR on twitter) is posting under these days.
    Her twitter account was suspended a couple months or so ago now. It now appears it must be final.

    Another twitter a/c I also used to visit regularly ‘The TRUMP PAGE’ was also suspended about the same time. This also has not been reinstated. I particularly miss these tweets of Michael Delauzon.

  234. Cassie of Sydney

    “Egg_
    #3046892, posted on June 19, 2019 at 8:35 pm
    More Setkabacks for Their True Albo and McManus.”

    New word for the Cat….Setkabacks!

    And speaking of Setka…he ain’t going anywhere.

  235. Cassie of Sydney

    “egg_
    #3046897, posted on June 19, 2019 at 8:39 pm
    It will be devastating for the loons on the left if Trump gets a second term.

    Popcorn sales will go through the roof – note to JC.”

    I suspect popcorn sales here in Oz have been good over the last week with the Setka/Albo stoush….it just keeps getting better and better.

  236. Nick

    Walter Kitty: a Cat who writes vicariously about their own life. Embellishment and ‘time distortion’ occurs.

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