Angus Taylor and a third of our electricity from RE by 2021

Great call Angus. Check out the supply from RE at dinner time last night.

Energy and Emissions Reduction Minister Angus Taylor said the Morrison government recognised an increasingly large share of Australia’s energy needs were being met by renewables.

“Over a third of Australia’s electricity will come from renewables by 2021,” he said. “While ­renewable energy is playing an ­increasingly important role in meeting Australia’s energy needs, intermittent wind and solar generation needs to be backed by dispatchable generation and storage to keep prices down and provide reliable, affordable 24/7 power.

“We are requiring retailers to guarantee there is enough power to meet demand, even when the sun isn’t shining and the wind isn’t blowing.”

How do you think they are going to do that Angus?

Alan Moran’s commentary.

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33 Responses to Angus Taylor and a third of our electricity from RE by 2021

  1. Roger

    So Angus’s new title is not a joke then.

  2. zyconoclast

    So Angus’s new title is not a joke then

    Joins the long list of Lib @rse clowns.

    No surprises here.

  3. teamv

    Angus was potentially great but he has been hobbled by the party not wanting to rock the boat.
    So we will continue to support renewables and destroy our economy albeit at a slower pace than labor would be doing.

    The closure of Liddel can’t come fast enough as a wake up call to those who claim renewables can power our economy.

  4. Rex Mango

    Where is the pressure coming from to follow this renewable madness? Seems there is something in the Canberra water which befuddles. The only solution is to purge them of this disease by making the ACT go 100% renewable and let them discover the joy of ‘free’ energy first.

  5. Dr Fred Lenin

    Dont worry Rafe we are in good hands ,if 10,000 windmills dont produce enough energy on calm days ,1000,000 will fix that problem , logic isnt it? . Can we find out who is copping all the money from this scam and make it public knowlege , you and I and the other cats know its a scam so anyone who claims its good is a scammer or accomplice are they not .?
    Here in Melbourne its 7 degrees dead calm and cloudy ,how much power are RE contributing to the grid ? Bugger all I would think . Canberra and all government offices should be removed from the grid and nade to rely on RE. Power entirely ,also bandits electorate in north fitzroy , switch them off .

  6. Down here in South Gippsland, it’s heating up as a proposal has been put forward: https://osmi.com.au/delburn-wind-farm/ to install over 50 x 250m tall eco-crucifixes near what was the Hazelwood power plant. For some reason, many of those who against coal, against logging and against fracking, are now against this proposal. Go figure.

  7. Gbees

    “Over a third of Australia’s electricity will come from renewables by 2021” – this is complete rubbish. Why we waste our time with this BS is beyond me.

  8. Rossini

    What you say Pauline?

  9. “Over a third of Australia’s electricity will come from renewables by 2021” – this is complete rubbish. Why we waste our time with this BS is beyond me.

    It may well be true depending on how you interpret this. It could be taken it as meaning ‘Over a third of Australia’s electricity will come from renewables by 2021, if they all happen to be producing electricity, at full capacity, at the same time‘.

  10. Dr Fred Lenin

    What we really need is a minister of energy production to scrap the clmateer flanneryite rubbish and carpetbbagging . Keep Liddel open recommmission Hazelwood build coal fired at Leigh Creek SA (call it the wetherill memorialsttation ) And build Japanese style stations in Qld NSW and Vic coalfields .

  11. Dr Faustus

    “Over a third of Australia’s electricity will come from renewables by 2021,” he said.

    “…intermittent wind and solar generation needs to be backed by dispatchable generation and storage to keep prices down and provide reliable, affordable 24/7 power.”

    Let’s check some numbers on that.

    In 2018 21.3% of Australia’s electricity generation came from various renewable sources.
    Sounds impressive and easy to scale up to 33%?

    Not necessarily:

    – 7.5% came from hydro – which won’t increase at all in the next 2 years;
    – 4.3% came from rooftop solar – which is nearing saturation and won’t scale over the next 2 years;
    – 9.5% came from windmills and other large scale renewables – more of which the various corporate thieves and rent seekers are gagging to roll out.

    Which broadly means that for renewables to reach 33%+ of the National sent out load, the entire existing installed fleet of windmills and large-scale PV will need to increase by about 125%.

    And if Angus reckons this lot has to be backed up by dispatchable power, that target implies that >200,000GWh of gas/battery infrastructure needs to be installed in the same 2 year timeframe – the equivalent of 180 Elon Musk battery farms (plus whatever is needed to charge them).

    Personally, I hope that Mr Taylor is simply pleasuring himself in public and doesn’t really intend to try and foist this scale of destruction on Australia – but I’m ready for the pineapple of disappointment.

  12. George Gell

    It will be good for the health of voters to climb out of electric trains and walk home along the railway tracks
    at night when the wind does not blow. Keep them fit.
    And they will show their gratitude when they voter. What a dill.

  13. candy

    Angus Taylor should pursue the windfarms for Warringah push.

    He is obviously very wind power orientated and should show leadership on renewables. Time for him to step up. It could lead to him becoming PM one day.

  14. BoyfromTottenham

    Looking at Angus Taylor’s CV he has no maths , engineering or science background, just Law and Economics.
    Therefore IMO he is unlikely to have the skills to see through the bafflegab that the proponents of ‘renewables’ spout about how much of our electricity actually will or can come from ‘renewables’ in the near future.
    However there is some hope, with quotes like this:
    “Taylor has called on the Coalition government to reduce its support for wind farms and is concerned with Australia’s Renewable Energy Target (RET) based on a belief that renewable energy projects, in particular wind, are increasing electricity costs and a belief that there are cheaper carbon reduction methods.” (Wikipedia)
    Any suggestions as to who might be able to sit down with Angus T and have a sensible discussion with him about this?

  15. Bruce of Newcastle

    Coal is a great form of renewable energy.
    It all used to be CO2.
    Stuff the Anthropocene, lets have Carboniferous II the Sequel!

  16. Rohan

    Here in Melbourne its 7 degrees dead calm and cloudy ,how much power are RE contributing to the grid ? Bugger all I would think

    Yep. walked past the boss’s 30kw PV array 5 minutes ago at 12.30 and the inverters were totalling a whopping 450W. Or 1.5% of nameplate capacity.

  17. RedneckRuss

    In the immortal words of Johnny Rotten “Do you ever get the feeling you’ve been had?” Damn the Libs and their lies.

  18. Jock

    The politicians and “elite” public servants seem to ignore the fact that Solar has about 15-20% production and that is mostly between 8am and 5pm. Its a ducks breast. Put in a 10kw system and if it was gas driven you would get 240kw hours of power, Instead you get 36-48 kwh. And that depends on the cloudcover and if its winter. Any excess energy goes into the grid. But ONLY to the local area . It CANNOT be fed back into the higher voltage grid. If your neighbors all have solar then the electricity is unused, but some poor sod still pays for it.

    The main point is that wind and solar need backup. Last night at 10pm, renewables were generating all of 10mw in SA and VIc. That meant that other sources had to cover that unreliability. So, we can build Wind and Solar with nameplate Capacity of 5000MW to supply say demand of 2000mw but you still need 2000MW of backup power to FIRM the intermittent renewables. For Solar that is of course ALL nite. There is we are told, the “promise” of batteries. Yeah sure! Why not dilithium crystals? They are expensive and cannot carry true 24/7 backup power. They take up room and there is debate about their longevity and what happens when they are retired.

    Overall though it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see how capital costs, subsidies etc are piling up.

    There is the cost of an oversized wind farm, then perhaps a battery, plus the need for gas backup. Added to this is the need for grid augmentation to deal with the intermittency of renewables. So we have a quadrupling of the capital cost of Coal or Gas. The only difference is that less fossil fuel is burnt. At least in the running of these plants if NOT in their initial manufacture.

    How, pray, does the Hon Taylor think costs per MW will decrease, when the capital cost spend has quadrupled??? (And this doesnt include the ridiculous subsidies the Wind and solar get from the taxpayer.) Basic finance 101 says this is not possible. Can any green out there gainsay me??

  19. Roger

    Angus was potentially great but he has been hobbled by the party not wanting to rock the boat.

    Only because he’s first placed his own ambition above the good of the nation which the party has then exploited to pull him into line.

    If you’re not going to do the right thing and argue the case you once believed in (and probably still do in private) then get out man and do something useful with your life.

  20. Infidel Tiger

    We just had fourth 4th climate change election in a row that rejected this idiocy.

    The Photios Mafia have got these fools by the balls.

  21. Infidel Tiger

    We just had fourth 4th climate change election in a row that rejected this idiocy.

    The Photios Mafia have got these fools by the ba lls.

  22. Infidel Tiger

    Xunt of a spaminator.

  23. Green the Planet!
    Feed the poor!
    1% CO2 now!

  24. Botswana O'Hooligan

    One supposes that it is never too early after an election to set about coming up with a losing scenario for the next one. When are they going to understand that Bob Brown and the Qld. Premier won’t be around to save them next time.

  25. Dr Fred Lenin

    We will have our equivelent of the Brexit party one day,politics is broken beyond repair ,the wankers have destroyed politics along with their credibility . Career politics doesnt work. It attracts the wrong kind of people ,and political oarties are owned by the people who give the bribes (“donations ) . They have rigged the voting system to suit themselves ,the whole thing needs bringing into the 21 st century by a bew constitution that will orevent any repetition of this corrupt system . When oeople like krudd ,giliard ,turnbull and shorten can be PM that system us rotten ,those people should not be allowed near public office .
    Kruds tax funded millionaire wife,giliards theft of widows funds ,turnbulls tax dodging Cayman accounts shortens $_40k bribe for his campign fund ,and God knows what else .

  26. Art

    Everyone is horrified when illegal dumping of asbestos on back streets in suburban areas happens. So what happens when a house owner has 36 old worn out sunmirros and 2 huge lithium batteries that need disposal and the local tip has quoted 1000 bucks. I can see it now. Illegally dumping of these items all over the place. Who the hells going to pay for that…I know more SUBSIDIES .

  27. Chris M

    Well they could pull it off if they burn all our trash to make electricity. It’s called ‘biomass’ now and it’s so green it’s also reducing landfill haha.

  28. Shy Ted

    Only Kevin can save us now. It’s our greatest moral challenge.

  29. Squirrel

    The parrot chorus is very fond of saying that the “science is in” on climate change, but it certainly isn’t in on large-scale storage options for renewably generated power.

    We’re going to need a LOT of low-price dispatchable.

  30. Dr FredLenin

    See taylor and his brother ad to talk to environment deppartment regarding a company they own. Here we go the swamp at work again ,wonder if there are any honest career politicians about ,might be hard to find one .

  31. Tim Neilson

    “Over a third of Australia’s electricity will come from renewables by 2021” – this is complete rubbish. Why we waste our time with this BS is beyond me.

    Think about it. 33% is a relative measure, not an absolute one.

    You could get to 33% renewables by:
    (a) increasing renewable production; or
    (b) utterly destroying our existing non-renewable generation capacity.

    I’m sure our political/bureaucratic class are capable of achieving (b). (Unless they’re thwarted by a surge in hamster/wheel reliable power technology.)

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