Open Forum: June 22, 2019

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  1. stackja

    Matildas not singing Norwegian Wood?

  2. Black Ball

    Good Lord, Moses Mbye or however it’s spelt, has a near death experience with anaphylactic shock. Still going to play Origin though.

  3. Nick

    BB did he use the wrong sort of tampon ?

  4. Notafan

    there has already been a lengthy examination of the Vatican archives however only a short version has been published in English I gave away my copy of it. Will try to remember the title

    this book bespoke

  5. Stimpson J. Cat

    Why are you, Stimpy?

    I don’t care if you think I am.
    Your opinion of me is irrelevant.

    I care that you clearly think and stated that C.L. is.

    Don’t change the subject.

    Apologize or retract.
    You choose.

  6. Some History

    Ahahahahah FitzSimons suggesting that the penalty shootout be scrapped for taking a player off from each side every 2 minutes with 20 minutes remaining in the match if scores are tied. What a knob end.

    Poyret: “If the first half went for 22.4 minutes and the second half for 18.7 minutes, if the tallest player from each team at the time had to leave the pitch every 12 minutes, if the referee had to have some form of visual impairment, if the opposition goalie had to be confined to a wheelchair, then I think the Matildas were in with a really good chance of winning”.

  7. Chris

    Matildas not singing Norwegian Wood?

    Nor humming, apparently.

  8. Stimpson J. Cat

    If you can’t apologize or retract, then explain why you think C.L. is an Anti-Semite.

  9. Leigh Lowe

    Ahahahahah FitzSimons suggesting that the penalty shootout be scrapped for taking a player off from each side every 2 minutes with 20 minutes remaining in the match if scores are tied. What a knob end.

    Why not Rock-Paper-Scissors?

  10. Tom

    Greg Gutfeld on the Greg Gutfeld Show on Fox News has just pointed out that Trump (on Twitter) will be live-blogging the Democratic Party’s TV debate/s this week, in which leftards will be attacking leftards for not being leftard enough. Delicious!

  11. Robber Baron

    TDS caused the Lezzoroos loss. Prove me wrong.

  12. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Oh, numbers is here? Who knew?

    a sparrow fart is more lively

  13. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hurry up None.
    I’m at work you know.
    Not all of us have time to sit in a room by ourselves all day talking to ourselves.
    Some of us are out spreading the Gospel of Denim Shorts to the heathens.

  14. Nick

    Why not Rock-Paper-Scissors?

    Have a rag off

  15. feelthebern

    Andrew Bolt must be looking at this and wondering: “Did I make a mistake not appealing the verdict?”

    Bolta wanted to be a martyr.
    He chose not to appeal.
    The whole case cost him stress, but not a penny.
    News picked up 100% of the tab.

  16. Chris

    1990, 1991 and 1992 were in the eighties.

    Pretty much. We can regard 1968 to 1973 as when things happened that people think of as the sixties.

  17. feelthebern

    Amazing how so many sports commentators don’t know the rules of the game they are commentating on.
    If you foul a player who is going to be one on one with the goalie, it’s an automatic red card.
    Doesn’t matter if it takes place 1 metre over the half way line.
    Otherwise many strikers would have broken legs.

  18. Eyrie:

    Maybe Iran will suffer a string of “bad luck” of no discernible cause.

    Perhaps an earthquake or two which causes the Lar Dam to collapse?
    Like the ‘earthquake’ that made Dear Leaders nuke testing mountain to metamorphose into a crater?
    That one?

  19. feelthebern

    Also amazing how the Cat can discuss John Bolton & Tucker Carson for over 24 hours, then someone pops in with the breaking news, fresh post.
    LOL.

  20. Notafan

    It’s probably worth noting that under Mussolini the J of Italy were not persecuted, it’s only happened after Italy surrendered and the Germans occupied Italy

    raid of the ghetto of rome

  21. Stimpson J. Cat

    A great big thank you to Saint Tucker for stopping the war with Iran.

    Can’t Cuck The Tuck!

  22. feelthebern

    Sam Kerr is a champ.
    She’s been in the top handful of female players for the last 3-4 years.
    The was young Australian of the year a year or so ago.
    The public didn’t know about her sexuality.
    She never discussed it despite being the subject of hundreds of interviews.
    She was only outed as a lesbian in the last couple of months pre the world cup.
    She was a soccer player first.
    She supported the previous coach (unlike the broader squad).
    A great player in a shite team.

  23. I so dislike the modern clerical practice of starting mass with a secular aside like a comment on the weather, or a sporting result etc.

    Mmm, yeap. The pulpit is for religious stuff.
    The first clergyman I knew would stick to religion inside the church.
    Immediately after the service he’s sit on the church steps & drink stubbies with any of the flock.
    This was a fantastic ice-breaker, & certainly assisted with raising the turnout rate (coz most women wouldn’t have driven to church if the husband didn’t go along to drive them)
    If the party lasted beyond a couple – he’s get out the piano-accordion (of which he was a very good player) & we’d all listen.
    Nobody would have dreamt of singing – his playing was that good you didn’t want to do anything but listen.

  24. feelthebern

    A great big thank you to Saint Tucker for stopping the war with Iran.

    Until Bolton is gone & has his security clearances revoked, we need to be vigilant.

  25. None

    Nota – if I recall correctly that book referred to archives in several European countries not the Vatican archives. The Vatican archives for Pius XII pontificate will be opened in March 2020 (some years ahead of schedule). Access to Vatican archives as for the Vatican library is for serious scholars with appropriate letters of introduction. I have absolutely no doubt that the museum’s representatives will be granted access. If I recall correctly the Vatican is at present digitising it’s manuscript holdings and archivalholdings but as these are huge this will take many many many years and multiple millions of dollars. They’ve already done a bit of work thanks to very generous donations from J–ish philanthropists. As far as the manuscript holings are concerned they are putting up digital images online and making them freely available to both scholars and the general public all around the world. Many other museums and libraries around Europe doing the same. I think that’s fabulous – yeah basically been given free access to all the Treasures of Western civilization and not a few others – but it’s never going to get finished without mega millions more dollars.

  26. C.L.

    None, if you have an argument that Pius XII was a Nazi operative (as the wacko Yad Vashem museum miantains), let’s hear it. It’s not 2001 any more – when Bush-Cheney War on Terror enthusiasts denounced people as anti-semites for not watching Seinfeld.

    Calling people like IT and me anti-semities only makes you look like a loony.

  27. Stimpson J. Cat

    Lost over the page, I think not!

    None
    #3050067, posted on June 23, 2019 at 11:25 am
    Imagine anyone actually thinking for one second that J®daism is superior to Christianity.

    Nice to see the anti-semites are out early this morning. Perhaps you like C.L. need some reminding of Jesus’ words: Salvation comes from the J–s.

  28. dover_beach

    Review of Pope and Devil here. That JVL entry on Pius XII is terrible in the light of what has been learned in the last 20 years from primary documentary information. Pius XII has been calumniated; that is now beyond dispute.

  29. Stimpson J. Cat

    Haven’t you got a hotline to the Vatican None?

  30. dover_beach

    Nota – if I recall correctly that book referred to archives in several European countries not the Vatican archives.

    None, no, that is not correct:

    Between 2003 and 2006, the Vatican opened its archives from the pontificate of Pope Pius XI (1922-1939). This made available millions of pages about Eugenio Pacelli, who served as papal nuncio in Germany from 1917 until 1929 and as Papal Secretary of State from 1930 until he became Pope Pius XII in 1939.

    There is now no excuse for these calumnies re Pius XII to persist.

  31. feelthebern

    Oh & I heard overnight that Sam Kerr was a role model for all lesbians & indigenous kids everywhere.
    She’s not indigenous which ever channel said that.
    She’s a role model for all fat kids to get off the couch & kick a ball around.

  32. None

    Voltas Section 18 c defence was paid for by News Corp and they had spent 200, 000 if I recall correctly and he felt a bit shy about asking them to fund some more. Of course he may have had the option of pursuing it using his own money – I don’t know how that would have worked as he was being sued as a employee of News Corp and they may have not wanted more publicity or him away from work preparing legal documents. In any case he himself had three teenage kids still in school I think at that stage. I’m not too sure mortgage in your house and risking your family security over two or three articles which everyone you was right despite two or three arrows effect was really worth it particularly given the public hate towards him at that time. Sometimes you’ve just got to let other people wake up and smell the manure that’s been heaped on the Roses.

  33. bespoke

    Notafan
    #3050118, posted on June 23, 2019 at 12:25 pm
    there has already been a lengthy examination of the Vatican archives however only a short version has been published in English I gave away my copy of it. Will try to remember the title

    this book bespoke

    Cheers Nota, From what I got from the link I posted was a bloke making the the best of a difficult situation. The part about baptizing J22ish kids was only thing a little cringe worthy.

  34. Rockdoctor

    Bob, I am normally a pretty polite person & scroll past you but mate IMO you are full of it in every way. Your post shows you know nothing of Townsville (I have lived here for the better part of 2-3decades so I call you & raise you that), but 7 RAR was always at Holsworthy when you graced a uniform so am not surprised, I know my birth certificate says ANZAC Village South as place of registry. My dad served in 7 RAR on your tour and an uncle, none of them know you. Sheesh get help, my late father did and was the better after…

  35. Steve trickler

    We all like a good BBQ.



  36. feelthebern

    Newscorp paid every penny.
    Why would they stop.
    Name another case were News hasn’t paid every penny to protect/support staff.
    Bill Leak pay a cent.
    He paid with his life.
    Tim Soupcan will get his comeuppance one day.

  37. Leigh Lowe

    Exactly bern.
    And “professional fouls” are the sort of thing which Bandana, Whately and co tut-tut about constantly.
    Imagine the situation is reversed.
    1-all and Sam Kerr gets dragged down by the Norgs, and we go on to lose on penalties.
    The howls from Bandana and co would have been “It was a certain goal to Kerr. A red card isn’t enough of a punishment. It should have been a pen… al .. ty … no wait. Three penalties plus two corners taken simultaneously.”

  38. feelthebern

    Bill Leak didn’t pay a cent.
    He still paid with his life.

  39. Bar Beach Swimmer

    So why do you appear to be taking sides against Boeing then?

    BoN, I laughed out loud!

  40. feelthebern

    Bandanna is all about feelings.
    Only data & statistics matter.
    Anyone with a feelings first mentality should not be trusted or listened to.

  41. Black Ball

    Bern I could be wrong but I think Sam Kerr’s lineage shows Sri Lankan blood. You are entirely correct about all you have said about her.

  42. Stimpson J. Cat

    None, please cease your foolish suicidal jihad against genuine Christians and Catholics.
    You are only making yourself look even more ridiculous than you already are.

  43. Leigh Lowe

    None

    #3050152, posted on June 23, 2019 at 12:49 pm

    Voltas Section 18 c defence was paid for by News Corp and they had spent 200, 000 if I recall correctly and he felt a bit shy about asking them to fund some more. Of course he may have had the option of pursuing it using his own money

    Not quite.
    Rupert was happy to fund an appeal but Bolt said no, as it “wouldn’t be a good look while News was retrenching j’ismlalists”.
    And, just like that, he emboldened a generation of SJWs.

  44. woolfe

    Hey numbers. Bad weather brought town Uzbekistan Airways Flight 1154 killing all on board.

    Errr that would be Climate Change not bad weather.

  45. Stimpson J. Cat

    And apologize to C.L. please, there’s a good girl.

  46. Fisky

    Wherever would we be without our wonderful refugee resettlement industry!

    Sudanese-born people are 67 times more likely to be charged with aggravated robbery and 55 times more likely to be charged with riot and affray in Victoria than those born elsewhere, ­according to analysis released yesterday by the state’s Crime Statistics Agency.

    The annual crime statistics to the end of March showed a rise in gang crime including car-jackings, assaults, street robberies and drug offences, despite the state achieving its lowest criminal incident rate since March 2015 when population growth is taken into account.

    Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Shane Patton revealed there had been an “escalation” in offences committed by people born in Sudan and South Sudan.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/sudanese-top-for-crime-charges/news-story/f520cfb99da50d0ad3f9b29a1e5d8adf

  47. Twostix

    Judging by this place the highly organised media campaign yesterday was at least a bit successful.

    For shame!

  48. None

    Haven’t you got a hotline to the Vatican None?

    You will never know, Stimpy 😚

  49. Bruce of Newcastle

    FitzSimons suggesting that the penalty shootout be scrapped for taking a player off from each side

    Not ridiculous. But rather than argue about which players to remove just play a couple of 10 minute extra time periods without goalies. Soccer without goal keepers would be an interesting variation, and quite different I suspect from normal play.

  50. feelthebern

    Over the weekend I’ve watched two movies.
    Destroyer with Nicole Kidman. Bloody good watch. Five stars.
    Captain Marvel. Unlike all the hype about it being a girls power movie, I didn’t think it came across like that at all. Ben Mendelsohn stole the show, just like he did in Rogue One. Going to Hollywood later in life has worked a treat for Aussie Ben. Three & half stars.

  51. None

    Errr that would be Climate Change not bad weather.

    I’d have to check as I’m not too sure it had been invented yet. But hey.

  52. Black Ball

    Happened in 2006 with the Shockeroos Leigh Lowe. Remember how apeshit the commentators were when Lucas Neill fouled Grosso from Italy? Grosso put some mayo on it for sure but the way they carried on, it was like prising the Jules Rimet trophy from the Shockeroo’s hands.

  53. feelthebern

    Sam Kerr parents are poms, so who knows what’s in the mix.

  54. None

    I’ll take your word for it, Leigh.

  55. feelthebern

    BB, first rule of defending: Stay on your feet.
    If a defender ends up on the deck, the first thing an attacker will do is attempt to get tangled up with said defender.
    Automatic penalty.
    If Grosso didn’t do what he did, he would have been negligent.
    Lucas Neill was 100% at fault.

  56. Leigh Lowe

    I’ll take your word for it, Leigh.

    As bern said, Rupert is quite happy to fund legals, as long as the individual is up to it.
    Blot was not.

  57. None

    Black Ball

    #3050173, posted on June 23, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    Yes. Yes. That was such a f****** nailbiter . But after a superb tournament (albeit clinical play), Neil unfortunately f***** up.

  58. Twostix

    On a whiteboard somewhere in a Sydney boardroom there are big circles drawn “catholics”, “mainstream religious”, “bogan white nationalists”, “labor voting envious”.

    Entitled “Foleau support faultlines…”

  59. Black Ball

    Exactly Bern. No argument from me.

  60. Anyone know of a branch of the MSM that isn’t part of the broadside against Izzy Folau?
    I’m sick to death of reading about what raw prawn he is.
    That GoFundMe is fantastic. It is a way for us to show what we think. For the price of a beer we get to vote for him.
    “Likes” & “clicks” are easy.

    By donating we’re showing with what counts, our wallets, that we’ve had a gutful of being told what to think, & an even bigger gutful of people being persecuted for following a harmless belief.

    I hope he wipes the floor with the bastards.
    & I hope Qantas’ seat sales drop.
    & I really hope that cross between Morticia Addams & the Vicar of Dibley gets the axe.

  61. None

    Sam Kerr’s Dad is a violent loser, Sam Kerr’s brother is a violent drunk loser. I’m hardly surprised she ended up under the thrill of an older lesbian while she was in the US. Unfortunately lesbians have a high rate of domestic violence and Sam Kerr hasn’t really had fantastic examples in her formative years. One day I’d like there to be some sports hero with a really boring happy home life. Maybe Ash Barty will prove to be it.

  62. feelthebern

    & I hope Qantas’ seat sales drop.

    If Qantas has the most competitive flight, I’d still fly with them.
    But it’s been a long time since that’s happened on any route.

  63. Leigh Lowe

    Hey bern, on the rules of soccer.
    I thought you couldn’t score from a corner without being touched by another player?

  64. C.L.

    If Folau wants Catholic dollars, slamming the Virgin Mary won’t help his cause much.
    Of course he’d know that if he wasn’t a Pentecostalist retard.

  65. feelthebern

    You can score from a corner with no one touching it.
    That’s the corner takers wet dream.

  66. Notafan

    Lots of J s got baptized to try to avoid the chamber’s.

    Papers were important.

  67. Pedro:
    I bin away for a couple of days – gold price is nice, Ja?

  68. feelthebern

    Faarrk.
    I have to watch channel Nein tonight for Origin.
    How long before Fox gets the same deal as they do for NRL games.
    Watching league with the channel nein feed is bad enough as Fox has a lot more cameras at the ground.
    Listening to channel nein commentary is painful.
    Rab’s is blind these days.

  69. None

    None, please cease your foolish suicidal jihad against genuine Christians and Catholics.
    You are only making yourself look even more ridiculous than you already are.

    It is Catholic teaching that Mewslies worship the same God as Christians so Catholics need to be very careful about maligning the mueslis. Are you Catholic Stimpy? I’m not. And as Dover pointed out, Catholics are not above criticism anyway.

  70. None:

    If the Iranians long for the Shah they can bloody well stand up and fight for him.

    Eggzakkerry.
    We should start dropping handguns all over Tehran.
    Other than that, nothing.

  71. Leigh Lowe

    You can score from a corner with no one touching it.
    That’s the corner takers wet dream.

    Ta.
    I think I was confusing where the corner taker isn’t allowed to have the next touch after the corner is taken.

  72. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Sudanese-born people are 67 times more likely to be charged with aggravated robbery and 55 times more likely to be charged with riot and affray in Victoria than those born elsewhere, ­according to analysis released yesterday by the state’s Crime Statistics Agency.

    A clear case of oppression by white privilege.

  73. MV:

    Obviously I’ve missed some important items. Someone please fill me in.
    So what was the positive proof they finally discovered tying Iran to the ship bombings?

    Someone left a return address sticker on the mine.

  74. None

    C.L., last time I looked, Folau was not twisting your arm demanding that you donate. Get over yourself.

  75. feelthebern

    Has Adam Goodes donated to Izzy yet?

  76. Stimpson J. Cat

    It is Catholic teaching that Mewslies worship the same God as Christians so Catholics need to be very careful about maligning the mueslis. Are you Catholic Stimpy? I’m not. And as Dover pointed out, Catholics are not above criticism anyway.

    You still haven’t explained why C.L. is an Anti-Semite.

    Very disappointing.

    Very sad.

    Very low energy.

  77. Tel

    Until Bolton is gone & has his security clearances revoked, we need to be vigilant.

    Bolton is bad, I don’t dispute that, but John Brennan is five times worse and so far Trump has been unable to even revoke Brennan’s security clearance despite issuing a direct Presidential order to that effect! This is the situation the USA is in, not a great position.

  78. feelthebern

    Very low energy.

    LOL.
    I can’t wait for Trump to tweet that about Biden non stop during the upcoming Dem debates.

  79. feelthebern

    but John Brennan WAS five times worse

    FIFY

  80. pete m

    Proud daddy moment:

    Daughter plays under 11’s AFL.

    At first she was hesitant about contact – not wanting to get tackled / hurt.

    Half way through season and she’s become a great tackler.

    After the game today she let me in on a secret – she says when tackling you accidentally step on their toes to distract them and make them drop the ball.

    I said if caught you’ll cop a penalty.

    She said she’d say it was an accident. Anyway, “it’s just footy”.

    Loved it!

    They play it hard – girls are regularly tossed around and to ground like dolls, nails raked across arms, mind games in quiet times etc.

    And I get to practice my goal umpiring style.

  81. Gab

    So C.L. is an Anti-Semite according to Officer None!!!

    Oh dear. CL did you disagree on something about the Joos? You’re not allowed to do that on here.

  82. Tel

    C.L., last time I looked, Folau was not twisting your arm demanding that you donate. Get over yourself.

    Yup, anyone has the right to ask, provided it’s polite and not too demanding. That’s the basic concept of free speech, which any bozo can understand.

    No one is forced to contribute … that’s your own personal decision, which is why we have property rights.

  83. Black Ball

    So there was an article upthread from some dweeb musing the possibility of Maria Folau could be a hindrance to the Adelaide Thunderbirds. Either detached from reality or voicing his own opinion not based in fact but emotion. I will take both options because the reception Maria got from the crowd was excellent.

  84. None

    Notafan

    #3050187, posted on June 23, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Yep and many stayed baptized after the war or even got baptized after the war. On the other hand in my parents Homeland people presented themselves as J—s to authorities in order to protect there genuine J–should neighouls. In other parts Joos turned other joos to authorities and participated in their deportation or execution. As soldiers say war is Chaos. And has history has shown persecution brings out the best and the worst in people and people respond differently. Are we going to criticize a J– who chooses to be baptized to save themselves from the gas Chambers? Would you criticize a Christian for converting to Islam to save their head?

  85. Pedro the Ignorant

    Pedro:
    I bin away for a couple of days – gold price is nice, Ja?

    Oh, yes. Outstanding, Winston.

    The “hedge fund” has been re-named the “Amazon jungle fund”, the accountant is reported to be browsing luxury car yards and mining money men have been roaring drunk for the best part of a week.

    Happy as a pig in the sunshine.

  86. Stimpson J. Cat

    What religion are you None, please tell us.
    I want to be suprised and astonished.

  87. None

    Notafan

    #3050187, posted on June 23, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Yep and many stayed baptized after the war or even got baptized after the war. On the other hand in my ancestrak hoomeland people presented themselves as J—s to authorities in order to protect their J–sh neighours.. In other parts Joos turned other joos to authorities and participated in their deportation or execution. As soldiers say , war is chaos. It’s far too easy for those of us who have never suffered war to judge and judge wrongly . And as history has shown persecution brings out the best and the worst in people and people respond differently. They also like to rewrite history after the fact. Are we going to criticize a J– who chooses to be baptized to save themselves from the gas Chambers? Would you criticize a Christian for converting to Isherlam to save their head?

  88. Stimpson J. Cat

    On the other hand in my ancestrak hoomeland

    Ha ha ha ja ja ha!!!!
    English, please.

  89. None

    Why are you asking Stimpson? You have spent years telling me what I think and what I believe and what I should do. Why stop now?

  90. bespoke

    Notafan
    #3050187, posted on June 23, 2019 at 1:12 pm
    Lots of J s got baptized to try to avoid the chamber’s.

    Papers were important.

    If that was the intent then cool.

  91. cohenite

    Izzy still going gangbusters. Go Izzy, go Bolton!

  92. Infidel Tiger

    You know what makes me laugh?

    Knowing that None is delivering all these crazed rants out loud into her poor phone’s voice to text app.

  93. Stimpson J. Cat

    Why are you asking Stimpson? You have spent years telling me what I think and what I believe and what I should do. Why stop now?

    Oh you poor persecuted Woman.
    R U OK?
    This isn’t a Safe Space.

    You’ve only been here a little over a year, frightbat.
    Because you were banned, remember?
    Who were you before?

  94. dover_beach

    No one is forced to contribute … that’s your own personal decision, which is why we have property rights.

    And CL has never said we are nor has he said that he has no right to ask. What he has said is that it imprudent to slander the beliefs of those you are shaking a tin at.

  95. bespoke

    Pretending all religions are equal is ‘progressive’ idea.

  96. Stimpson J. Cat

    Imagine if None is srr.
    That would absolutely break my heart.

  97. Eggsactly bespoke.

    God bless America has worked for a few hundred years.

  98. None

    I have never heard Izzy Folau asking Catholics for anything specific or addressing them specifically for money. He’s just made a general public appeal. If you want to read more into it then do so. By your standards Dover and cl you should not be contributing to any charity or any calls that does not align perfectly with your own particular interpretation of Catholicism but I’m pretty sure both of you have taken welfare dollars from non-Catholics in your lives.

  99. Tel

    but John Brennan WAS five times worse

    Don’t kid yourself … Brennan is very much still in the business.

  100. None

    Now we’re going to have Stimpson have a little meltdown. *yawn*

  101. None

    Maria Folau is a sweety. Adelaide has a big Pentecostal population as well as a big netball fanbase so the Adelaide Thunderbirds would be very reluctant to buy into the media beat up over RA. Good. I hope they stay that way.

  102. dover_beach

    Don’t be silly, None, all that has been said is that it imprudent to malign a group that would otherwise provide Folau with qualified support. I will chip into the fund even though I found his statements re Our Lady and Christmas/ Easter historically bunk. I can do that because I think the principle he is fighting for is worth defending.

  103. Stimpson J. Cat

    Now we’re going to have Stimpson have a little meltdown. *yawn*

    This is a very Grigs tier statement.

    And you are incredibly fluent in foreign languages, exactly like Grigs.

    Hmm.

    And you still haven’t explained why C.L. is an Anti-Semite.

  104. Cassie of Sydney

    “Notafan
    #3050138, posted on June 23, 2019 at 12:38 pm
    It’s probably worth noting that under Mussolini the J of Italy were not persecuted, it’s only happened after Italy surrendered and the Germans occupied Italy

    raid of the ghetto of rome”

    Not quite Notafan…I don’t that think Mussolini and his fascist party were intrinsically anti-Semitic…in fact I don’t think that the Italians….as a people….supported the racial purity laws. I would say that many Italians probably carried “old fashioned” type antipathy to Joooos…such as Jooooos being responsible for the death of Jesus….but did Italians support the mass murder of Joooos…I doubt it.

    It is worth noting that some of the early founders/members of the Italian fascist party were Jooooos…however Mussolini and the party ended up being quite enamoured of Hitler and Nazism and they caved to the Germans as early as 1938 on racial purity laws. Italy introduced…in 1938…..strict racial purity laws against Jooos and Gypsies…based on the German model…..such as….

    Italian Jooos had their civil rights restricted, Joooooish books were banned and Joooos were excluded from public office and higher education. And there were other laws…such as stripping Joooos of their assets, restricting travel and confining Joooos to internal exile…particularly in the south…to Calabria and Sicily…those Jooooos were lucky.

    As for Pius…….I could write a lot….he should have done more and he could have done more. Pius himself heard the screams and cries of the mainly women and children when the Gestapo moved into the Roman Ghetto to round them up and put them on the cattle trains for Auschwitz. Pius was alerted but he did nothing. The Ghetto is adjacent to the Vatican.

    I don’t think much of Pius…there’s not a lot to admire…..but I have great admiration and respect for the thousands of Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant ministers, nuns, priests, monks and laity who risked their own lives (and those of their families) to protect Joooos. An aunt of mine was hidden in a convent in Hungary. These people…despite the nasty comments above….are truly righteous gentiles…

    חֲסִידֵי אֻמּוֹת הָעוֹלָם

  105. Gab

    In None the new Numbers or what?

  106. Cassie of Sydney

    “This isn’t a Safe Space.”

    Agree Stimpson…easy to lecture other people….pity you didn’t live up to your own words.

  107. Gab

    Pius himself heard the screams and cries of the mainly women and children when the Gestapo moved into the Roman Ghetto to round them up and put them on the cattle trains for Auschwitz. Pius was alerted but he did nothing. The Ghetto is adjacent to the Vatican.

    Sound like ahistorical nonsense.

  108. Tom

    Proud daddy moment:
    Daughter plays under 11’s AFL.

    Great post, pete m. I just wish girls would shut up with the “girls can so anything — don’t need no stupid men” routine so blokes can give them a hand minimising their injuries.

    Commentators on SEN in Melbourne have noted that, with the upsurge in women’s AFL, the casualty departments of major hospitals are full every Saturday night with girls’ broken bodies as a result of trying to play a man’s sport like men do.

    Girls aren’t built like men are and are therefore more prone to injuries in men’s sports. They can save women’s AFL 20 years of development pain by simply acknowledging that and learning how to tackle effectively without injuring themselves and their opponents, for which they need men’s help.

    Because women’s AFL is being led by noisy lesbians, that can’t be done currently because it’s too much of a political climb-down.

  109. Stimpson J. Cat

    Is None the new Numbers or what?

    None isn’t completely new though.
    It was banned before for something to do with Dot and came back.

  110. cohenite

    FMD, the tele has 24 pages devoted to some crim called Ibrahim; I only get it for the cartoons but enough is enough.

  111. Fisky

    Oh dear. The Bugmen really don’t know how to choose their minority puppets very well do they. Got lucky with Obama, but all the latest picks have been total duds.

    http://www.startribune.com/new-documents-revisit-questions-about-rep-ilhan-omar-s-marriage/511681362/

  112. Stimpson J. Cat

    Agree Stimpson…easy to lecture other people….pity you didn’t live up to your own words.

    Women are often dissapointed in life.
    I’m just here to try and make them smile.
    😁

  113. mh

    Stimpy, even Egg is funnier than you lately.

  114. Infidel Tiger

    Pius himself heard the screams and cries of the mainly women and children when the Gestapo moved into the Roman Ghetto to round them up and put them on the cattle trains for Auschwitz. Pius was alerted but he did nothing. The Ghetto is adjacent to the Vatican.

    Sounds about as factual as the Protocols book.

  115. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpy, even Egg is funnier than you lately.

    Well get him to tell you more jokes.
    I’m also working you know.
    Multitasking isn’t easy for Men.

  116. mh

    Well get him to tell you more jokes

    No. Egg is not very funny.

  117. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s hilarious, people getting accused of p®dophilia and Anti-Semitism by Muppets and you all just sit around and take it like old people waiting to die.
    What next, fake perky tits?
    Grow up.

  118. Leigh Lowe

    And CL has never said we are nor has he said that he has no right to ask. 

    Well, not quite.
    He did say that Izzy should consume a chunk of his asset portfolio before resorting to public appeal.
    All based on a “valuation” by a j’ismlamist at the Tele.

  119. Cassie of Sydney

    “Infidel Tiger
    #3050240, posted on June 23, 2019 at 1:57 pm”

    Tell us which you believe….that the roundup happened or the Protocols?

  120. dover_beach

    As for Pius…….I could write a lot….he should have done more and he could have done more. Pius himself heard the screams and cries of the mainly women and children when the Gestapo moved into the Roman Ghetto to round them up and put them on the cattle trains for Auschwitz. Pius was alerted but he did nothing. The Ghetto is adjacent to the Vatican.

    Yeah, nah:

    Martin Gilbert wrote that, in October 1943, with the SS occupying Rome and determined to deport the city’s 5000 Jews, the Vatican clergy had opened the sanctuaries of the Vatican to all “non-Aryans” in need of rescue in an attempt to forestall the deportation. “Catholic clergy in the city acted with alacrity”, wrote Gilbert. “At the Capuchin convent on the Via Siciliano, Father Benoit, under the name of Father Benedetti, saved a large numbers of Jews by providing them with false identification papers […] by the morning of October 16, a total of 4,238 Jews had been given sanctuary in the many monasteries and convents of Rome. A further 477 Jews had been given shelter in the Vatican and its enclaves.” Gilbert credited the “rapid rescue efforts” of the Church as saving over four fifths of Roman Jews that morning.[29] Il Collegio San Giuseppe – Istituto De Merode, like other Roman Catholic schools, hid numerous Jewish children and adults among its students and Brothers.[30][31]

    Pietro Palazzini, who was later appointed a Cardinal and recognised as Righteous among the Nations by Yad Vashem, endangered his life in his efforts to save the Jews of Rome.[32] As assistant vice rector of the Seminario Romano (which was Vatican property), he hid Italian Jews for several months in 1943 and 1944. In accepting his title from Yad Vashem, Palazzini said that “the merit is entirely Pius XII’s, who ordered us to do whatever we could to save the Jews from persecution.”[33]

    In Under His Very Windows: The Vatican and the Holocaust in Italy, Susan Zuccotti argued that the pope “did not give orders to the various Roman Catholic institutions of Rome to open their doors to the Jews”.[34] Zuccotti’s other published works advance her argument that Pius XII neither ordered, nor was aware of the full extent, of the rescue operations carried out by Catholics and Catholic institutions.[35] In fact, Zuccotti argues that Pius XII disapproved of the rescue efforts, as evidenced by a December 1943 letter from the Rector of Pontificio Seminario Romano Maggiore apologizing to Pius XII for accepting refugees, apparently having been previously reprimanded.[35] Zuccotti also finds a February 1944 order to remove fugitives from Vatican properties inconsistent with the existence of a papal directive to save Jews.[35] Phayer agrees with this interpretation while arguing that in fact “the Vatican cooperated in this rescue attempt”, which he believes was initiated by the German diplomats of Rome.[34] Zuccotti argues that any coordination was the result of the efforts of an Italian Jewish agency DELASEM which petitioned Italian bishops and turned over funds and lists of names to those who agreed to help.[35]

    Jonathan Gorsky, wrote for Yad Vashem, that the scale of the rescue of Jews would have been impossible without Papal approval: ” The rescue of thousands of Jews during the Holocaust, and the opening of Catholic institutions as places of shelter, could not have occurred in the face of papal disapproval. This is especially true with regard to institutions within the confines of Rome and the Vatican… No one has denied the significant scale of Catholic rescue activity, and gratitude was indeed expressed by leading Jews after the war”[36]

    Zuccotti’s argument seems to be that unless we can find a personal order by Pius XII on paper in Nazi-occupied Rome, his personal approval of the opening up of Church properties as sanctuaries never happened.

  121. None

    What Folau has said Dover he has said. I said about a year ago that he was not well catechized but how could he be? He grew up with the Mormons. A few years ago he and his family ended up in pentecostalism in more or less DIY religion. With two or three exceptions our mainstream Christian leaders in Australia are just stock standard Lefty f****** fruitcakes. Who would you look to for an example? As it is Catholic Bishops have barely even stood up publicly for Cardinal Pell even if ordinary Catholics have.

    I’m just bloody impressed that Izzy is actually prepared to make a stand that even mainstream cradle Christians won’t. I give him about 0 chance of succeeding because I’ve observed our media and corporations and politicians and justice system for a little bit too long. But where he will succeed – even if he himself ends up giving up the fight – and where he has succeeded already is by cracking open and exposing the whole filthy mess. Just because he is rich and famous also does not mean that he is not human and that this wall-to-wall hate and calumny is not hurting him in some way. Moreover, it does not mean that he should be held to some impossible standard that we ourselves would be unable to uphold.
    C.L. cries over the thought of even donating a dollar to him but Izzy has basically been told he can’t work in Australia again perhaps not even overseas and that he’s expected to make himself destitute and possibly sacrifice his wife’s career and the future of his future children because oh my god he said something nasty about Mary .

    This is probably going to be the best catechesis Folau will ever have in his life. He will see humanity in all it’s ugly sinfulness, apostasy and pride. He will learn how friends are few and allies come from the most unexpected places. He will learn what is light to go through some really dark moments of doubt. he will learn the true meaning and cost of trust in God.

    If you truly believe the apostle Paul , that god will not allow his children to bear burdens that they are unable to bear, then he certainly whacked a big one on Izzy, the bumbling barely Christian Pentecostal. If I were you I’d be asking why did he chose Izzy and not the mouthy oh so perfect Catholic C.L.?

    The Apostle Paul again in choosing the foolish to shame the wise. Apostle Paul again on god’s strength being perfected in human weakness. Your own gospel is being played out before your own eyes and C.L. cries blasphemy.

  122. JC

    Cassie

    The ghetto is within proximity of the Vatican but I very much doubt screams would have been heard.
    Also, there’s not much one can do when the gestapo were rounding them up.
    But ask yourself this, how tolerant were Roman Catholics allowing a temple to be built and the ghetto to exist very close to the centre of Roman Catholicism – the Vatican.

    Imagine that occurring elsewhere. Imagine asking for a church to be built close to western wall.

    Also, I could think of worst things happening than being banished to southern Italy. 🙂

    The fact is that the Italian people did not support the oppression. Period.

  123. Stimpson J. Cat

    What religion are you again None?

    And why is C.L. an Anti-Semite?

    You can’t just throw these things out there without expecting to be questioned.

    This is Catallaxy.

    You aren’t just talking to yourself now.

  124. dover_beach

    As for Pius…….I could write a lot….he should have done more and he could have done more. Pius himself heard the screams and cries of the mainly women and children when the Gestapo moved into the Roman Ghetto to round them up and put them on the cattle trains for Auschwitz. Pius was alerted but he did nothing. The Ghetto is adjacent to the Vatican.

    Yeah, nah:

    Martin Gilbert wrote that, in October 1943, with the SS occupying Rome and determined to deport the city’s 5000 [email protected], the Vatican clergy had opened the sanctuaries of the Vatican to all “non-Aryans” in need of rescue in an attempt to forestall the deportation. “Catholic clergy in the city acted with alacrity”, wrote Gilbert. “At the Capuchin convent on the Via Siciliano, Father Benoit, under the name of Father Benedetti, saved a large numbers of [email protected] by providing them with false identification papers […] by the morning of October 16, a total of 4,238 [email protected] had been given sanctuary in the many monasteries and convents of Rome. A further 477 [email protected] had been given shelter in the Vatican and its enclaves.” Gilbert credited the “rapid rescue efforts” of the Church as saving over four fifths of Roman [email protected] that morning.[29] Il Collegio San Giuseppe – Istituto De Merode, like other Roman Catholic schools, hid numerous Jewish children and adults among its students and Brothers.[30][31]

    Pietro Palazzini, who was later appointed a Cardinal and recognised as Righteous among the Nations by Yad Vashem, endangered his life in his efforts to save the [email protected] of Rome.[32] As assistant vice rector of the Seminario Romano (which was Vatican property), he hid Italian [email protected] for several months in 1943 and 1944. In accepting his title from Yad Vashem, Palazzini said that “the merit is entirely Pius XII’s, who ordered us to do whatever we could to save the [email protected] from persecution.”[33]

    In Under His Very Windows: The Vatican and the Holocaust in Italy, Susan Zuccotti argued that the pope “did not give orders to the various Roman Catholic institutions of Rome to open their doors to the [email protected]”.[34] Zuccotti’s other published works advance her argument that Pius XII neither ordered, nor was aware of the full extent, of the rescue operations carried out by Catholics and Catholic institutions.[35] In fact, Zuccotti argues that Pius XII disapproved of the rescue efforts, as evidenced by a December 1943 letter from the Rector of Pontificio Seminario Romano Maggiore apologizing to Pius XII for accepting refugees, apparently having been previously reprimanded.[35] Zuccotti also finds a February 1944 order to remove fugitives from Vatican properties inconsistent with the existence of a papal directive to save [email protected][35] Phayer agrees with this interpretation while arguing that in fact “the Vatican cooperated in this rescue attempt”, which he believes was initiated by the German diplomats of Rome.[34] Zuccotti argues that any coordination was the result of the efforts of an Italian Jewish agency DELASEM which petitioned Italian bishops and turned over funds and lists of names to those who agreed to help.[35]

    Jonathan Gorsky, wrote for Yad Vashem, that the scale of the rescue of [email protected] would have been impossible without Papal approval: ” The rescue of thousands of [email protected] during the Holocaust, and the opening of Catholic institutions as places of shelter, could not have occurred in the face of papal disapproval. This is especially true with regard to institutions within the confines of Rome and the Vatican… No one has denied the significant scale of Catholic rescue activity, and gratitude was indeed expressed by leading [email protected] after the war”[36]

    Zuccotti’s argument seems to be that unless we can find a personal order by Pius XII on paper in Nazi-occupied Rome, his personal approval of the opening up of Church properties as sanctuaries never happened.

  125. Cassie of Sydney

    “The fact is that the Italian people did not support the oppression. Period.”

    I agree JC.

  126. Bar Beach Swimmer

    What is it about people with an overly inflated sense of worth telling other people what to spend their money on? But then saying that its a free society so they are not actually doing that! So far we’ve had Peter Fitzsimons who argues that Issy is VEWY VEWY RICH, some bloke who works for News Sport? who also argues that Issy is VEWY VEWY RICH, ex rugby player Drew Mitchell who argues that Issy is VEWY VEWY RICH, and Alex Greenwich (MP!!) who argues that…there are better choices for these people’s hard earned than Issy’s fighting fund. Mitchell declares that Issy is in some type of contest to take away donations from “sick kids” and so should desist!! Moral arbiter Alex Greenwich suggests that these people should consider donating to World Vision, despite its very blemished copybook , rather than to Issy. Paul Johnson, in his opinion piece for News, goes so far as to question whether Issy’s supporters are ‘gullible, naive, stupid or just looking for a wannabe martyr’?, and goes on to say that he’d like it cleared up because they may be ‘doing it for potentially bigoted reasons?’ WTF? These dumb duds seem not to realise that many people, people who are clearly less wealthy that Issy, don’t like the idea that an employer can own an employee, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, during their working time, after their working time is over and while forever they remain employed, even a rich one. That third party entities (read governments, bureaucracies, business partners, employers, sponsors) have the right to seek to restrain the rights of ordinary people/workers/everyone (whether wealthy or not) of what should be their rights in a free society.

  127. dover_beach

    My response to Cassie is caught in ridiculous moderation.

  128. Gab

    So if Obama was sued and he posted a gofundme account for his legal fees, you’d all be kosher about it?

  129. you all just sit around and take it like old people waiting to die.

    Standard Catallaxian response to just about everything, Stimpy.

  130. areff

    Also, I could think of worst things happening than being banished to southern Italy.

    Northern Italian wisdom: Africa begins at Naples.

  131. dover_beach

    The claim made against Pius XII is rubbish. We have a wealth of evidence that church properties provided sanctuary to J-ws in the Vatican, Rome, and elsewhere, but Cassie’s argument is that he could have effectively ended their deportation from Rome and elsewhere had he only imposed his will on the situation. However, if Pius XII did not support the use of church properties as sanctuaries, and this occurred against his will, how could he be expected to impose his will on the Nazis and save the J-ws from deportation? If we admit that he could impose his will, that would mean that the opening up of church properties as sanctuaries aligned with it and that he was not an anti-Semite and did what was within his powers at the time to save them.

  132. None

    Gab

    #3050255, posted on June 23, 2019 at 2:15 pm

    Depends on what he allegedly did and what he was being sued for. Hell I might want to contribute to the prosecution.

  133. JC

    One of the most moving, most emotional things I’ve ever witnessed was last year walking though the Jewish ghetto in Rome. Small brass plaques set in the roadway marked the names of people who lived in those apartments and had vanished in the Holocaust. It was there. Those people actually lived in those buildings. It happened there and it’s pretty visceral.

  134. JC

    One of the most moving, most emotional things I’ve ever witnessed was last year walking though the J***wish ghetto in Rome. Small brass plaques set in the roadway marked the names of people who lived in those apartments and had vanished in the Holocaust. It was there. Those people actually lived in those buildings! It happened there and it’s pretty visceral.

  135. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Girls aren’t built like men are and are therefore more prone to injuries in men’s sports.

    A potential concern for girls playing contact sport like AFL is that injuries can cause the build up of scar tissue. If scar tissue develops in breast tissue then future mammograms may not detect breast cancer.

  136. Stimpson J. Cat

    If I were you I’d be asking why did he chose Izzy and not the mouthy oh so perfect Catholic C.L.?

    Are you really this stupid?
    It’s mind boggling.

  137. JC

    Also, I could think of worst things happening than being banished to southern Italy.

    Northern Italian wisdom: Africa begins at Naples.

    Lol. We literally touched down back in NY a few hours ago after spending three weeks in southern Italy. We had a great time. We did a guided excursion around Etna. The thing is still smoking! We could see the smoke billowing from the freaking airport. I dunno how people can live with that.

  138. Top Ender

    Some of the more amusing names on the Go Fund Me page for Israel Folau:

    In the name of FREEDOM NoMoreCourierMail

    Concerned NZer

    Sickof Thehypocricy

    Bandana Man Bad Israel Good!

    Muslims For Christians

    Here is another donation after reading a stupid article in the SMH #MediaMafiaMadeMeDoIt

    I thought Chanel 7 supported Christians. No more media for me

    LGBT – if you don’t repent You WILL face eternal death

    Australia against its brainwashing Media – I don’t like the CM

    Christians, Muslims, and other religions. Join the battle against a hateful secular world full of s

    Muslims against a forced gay and trans agenda Stop forcing it into our lives

  139. Top Ender

    Some of the more amusing names on the Go Fund Me page for Israel Folau:

    In the name of FREEDOM NoMoreCourierMail

    Concerned NZer

    Sickof Thehypocricy

    Bandana Man Bad Israel Good!

    M uslims For Christians

    Here is another donation after reading a stupid article in the SMH #MediaMafiaMadeMeDoIt

    I thought Chanel 7 supported Christians. No more media for me

    LGBT – if you don’t repent You WILL face eternal death

    Australia against its brainwashing Media – I don’t like the CM

    Christians, M uslims, and other religions. Join the battle against a hateful secular world full of s

    M uslims against a forced gay and trans agenda Stop forcing it into our lives

  140. Nick

    areff, it’s Rome, not Naples 🙂

  141. None

    Pius’s first duty was to Catholics, not even to all Christians, much less to Joos but to Catholics and he also had to be wary not to endanger Catholics in other parts of the world such as South America which were under pressure at that time and yet were potential safe havens. He had the twin evils of Nazism and communism to contend with and had to balance competing demands as well as internal politics in a war setting. As always in such situations he will be one person’s hero and another person’s failure.

  142. Girls aren’t built like men are and are therefore more prone to injuries in men’s sports.

    Girls shouldn’t run. Period. They are not built for it.
    The fact that in these modern times they do, is why so many women in middle age and older, end up requiring hip and knee replacement surgery.

  143. None

    Girls shouldn’t run. Period. 

    That’s actually part of my parents culture but fortunately I managed to disenfranchise them all that by mid high school.

  144. JC

    CL makes a reasonable point. The idea of these “fundme” campaigns is fund people who cannot afford the cost – whether it’s legal or medical fees etc. In this case it’s much more than that therefore contrasting with other situations.

    I read that Falau is worth around $6 million. That’s net worth, which excludes debt. Some imbecile , a few days ago, had this concept confused. Net worth is “NET” and therefore excludes debt.
    The thing that disturbs me about the fundme campaign is that he’s asked people to fund his damages lawsuit against Ruby Union requesting just compensation for unfair dismissal. This differs from other cases because Falau could potentially cash in a big settlement. Is he prepared to recompense donors if say he wins $10 million or will he keep the loot?

  145. None

    Stimpson, I know you’ve made me your personal pet project, but I really don’t give a toss. Go shine your head or something.

  146. Rockdoctor

    JC
    #3050266, posted on June 23, 2019 at 2:34 pm

    Never became a volcanologist myself but some must love the danger as I don’t otherwise I would have followed my dad into service. Etna is on a subduction zone so silica rich explosive volcanoes… Pyroclastic flows are side effect of living somewhere like that…

  147. cohenite

    Climate fucking council update by Tony Thomas:

    Climate Council crestfallen

    Tony Thomas The Spectator Australia 22 June 2019

    Australia’s media will shortly run the following ‘climate crisis’ stories: London’s black cabs are going electric; UK offshore turbines are a howling success; and a coal town in Germany’s Ruhr is loving renewables. How do I know? Because Tim Flannery’s Climate Council is junketing the love media to Europe to spoon-feed them these tales. CEO Amanda McKenzie says her work’s ‘decoding [misinformation] for journalists, making sure journalists are asking the right questions etc.’.

    Last year the Council took two troupes including the SMH, ABC, Guardian, and Women’s Weekly to snorkel artfully-selected patches of the Barrier Reef ‘to see the bleaching first hand’. The reef’s 2,300km long, so the snorkeled sampling wasn’t extensive. The hacks obliged with oodles of ‘high profile’ reports and Council-supplied TV clips, to the fury of reef tour operators. Now on a $3-4m budget, the Council’s generated $100-plus million worth of media, it says, ‘reaching a cumulative audience of 448 million’.

    Nine days pre-election, it tried a super-scare with its ersatz ‘peer reviewed’ report that Coalition climate inertia would chop property values by $571 billion by 2030. Voters yawned. McKenzie wrote that the election’s only ‘silver lining [was] seeing one of the biggest deniers, Tony Abbott, swept away’. She spent ‘sleepless nights’ revising strategy, she told a web seminar last month. She concedes people are jaded from decades of claims about 5-10 years to save the planet: ‘These dates are sometimes unhelpful.’

    The Council’s Adani-or-the-Reef pretense also backfired. She’s considering an Albo-style ‘listening tour’ of North Queensland to discover why tradies put jobs before climate virtue. She’ll flog them her ‘just transition’ renewables line and ‘nut out how it could hopefully be made bi-partisan’.

    She fears her burnt-out activists might vacate the field, as they did after the Climategate-stricken talks ‘fell apart’ in Copenhagen 2009, where she led our youth delegates. Those pesky sceptics might again ramp up to ‘full throttle’ notwithstanding her other claim that five years’ relentless Council work had ‘killed off the influence of climate denialism’.

    Why the election loss? Her $4m Council was underdog in the climate wars, she believes. Clive Palmer’s $60m spending was more than the annual revenue of the whole climate movement, she says.

    McKenzie’s warmy hypotheses are backed only by federal and every State government, Labor, unions, the Greens, top companies from BHP-Billiton, Woodside and Qantas down (Council director Gerry Hueston also sits on the Business Council), the billions-subsidised renewables, universities and education systems, the ABC, Nine media, arts/entertainment and its funders, doctors’ wives (make that ‘spouses’)… anyone I’ve missed?…

    We’re too gentle with these bastards; the next time they glue their vegan fucking bodies to the carriage way they should be removed with the concrete still stuck to their useless carcases. Bolton would do that; what a guy.

  148. None

    JC, Folau has got the terms and conditions of donations up on his gofundme page. If you don’t like them don’t contribute. Others can make their own judgements and decide for themselves. And as others have pointed out here several times this is not just about money.

  149. Girls shouldn’t run.

    In my time at high school, boys took a keen interest in female athletics.

    Tis something about the rhythmic bouncing of breasts.

  150. JC

    Rockdoc

    Then there’s the Ves sitting atop of Naples. I mentioned something similar last year and Bruce from N reckons the real fear is that Naples is sitting on a giant magna thingi or whatever that could literally blow up at anytime. Fme.

  151. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson, I know you’ve made me your personal pet project, but I really don’t give a toss. Go shine your head or something.

    Someone has to call you out for your outrageous, ridiculous behavior ,
    Officer None of the Pubic Police.

    And that someone is me.

    Because I care.

    It’s for your own good.

  152. None

    Also JC and as the gofundme page itself states,. fundraising can be for any reason. People raise funds for sport strips or for holidays. Some of those sick people funds are not actually for medical treatment but to replace income so people can take time off work. People decide whether to give or not. Have you forgotten that toaster guy on the ABC. Or even egg boy who came from quite a well-to-do family? If you and ciel think that you are smart enough to judge then give other people the latitude to judge as well.

  153. cohenite

    In other news a new mine lease granted by Gladys:

    The Wallarah 2 coal project on the NSW Central Coast has been granted two mining leases by the state government after more than a decade of controversy and scrutiny.

    The NSW government confirmed on Friday it had approved two coal mining leases to Kores Australia, a subsidiary of Korea Resources Corporation.

    The fairfucks report dredges up a photo of o’barrell back when he opposed the mine.

    The down side of course is another foreign entity is doing the digging. What stupid country. Noone will have to invade us.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    JC
    #3050274, posted on June 23, 2019 at 2:43 pm
    CL makes a reasonable point. The idea of these “fundme” campaigns is fund people who cannot afford the cost – whether it’s legal or medical fees etc. In this case it’s much more than that therefore contrasting with other situations.

    GoFundMe describes itself as a platform to seek crowd-funding for issues you are passionate about. It doesn’t say anything about existing means, or whether or not the cause is “worthy”.

    I read that Falau is worth around $6 million. That’s net worth, which excludes debt. Some imbecile , a few days ago, had this concept confused. Net worth is “NET” and therefore excludes debt.

    Where did Folau’s personal financial records come from?
    This has a Tele hatchet job based on probably highly inflated property values and a half-baked assessment that “on his salary, they are probably debt free.”
    In any case, so what.
    It is voluntary and he has not misrepresented what the cause is.
    The most important thing here is that it has demonstrated to the Toxic Leprechaun and the Vicar of Rugby that there are thousands of people willing to vote with their wallets, and probably tens or hundreds of thousands who share those views.

  155. None

    Stimpson, you seem to be under some delusion that I’m some member of the public police. I am not. Let’s not go to the fact that such an entity does not even exist lest I trigger your psychosis. I do not want your care or attention. Perhaps it’s time for you to get an update on your medications instead.

  156. JC

    JC, Folau has got the terms and conditions of donations up on his gofundme page. If you don’t like them don’t contribute. Others can make their own judgements and decide for themselves. And as others have pointed out here several times this is not just about money.

    Hey, I have no problem with that, None. However, I do have an opinion and I think it stinks if he succeeds in his lawsuit, rakes in $10 biggies and keeps the donations. That sucks. Also, I’m not sure people have really thought about this. This isn’t one of those regular campaigns where the person is raises legal funding to protect himself. This is going to be a lawsuit for a damages award. Lawyers take on these suits and pocket 33% of the win in the US. I’d consider funding the case, but I would want 33% plus the amount I invested.
    Furthermore, the dude wouldn’t be constrained in any way because there are Australian lawyers that would take the suit on as a contingency, which would mean Falau wouldn’t be out of pocket for the fees. Why didn’t he speak to contingency firms instead of asking people to fund his fees? Do you know?

    I feel he’s taking people for a freaking ride.

  157. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson, you seem to be under some delusion that I’m some member of the public police. I am not. Let’s not go to the fact that such an entity does not even exist lest I trigger your psychosis. I do not want your care or attention. Perhaps it’s time for you to get an update on your medications instead.

    Last time I checked only one of us was sitting in a room talking to themselves out loud.
    And it’s not me.
    I’m actually at work.
    😂

  158. Bruce of Newcastle

    JC/RD – Yes, Naples is on Campi Flegrei. Vesusius is the explosive one, with siliceous magma. Etna is right on a hot spot so is mostly basaltic magma, which is a good thing since its been erupting nearly continuously for decades.

    Global Volcanism Program – Smithsonian

    Etna

  159. None

    I feel he’s taking people for a freaking ride.

    10 mm is lost earnings for the next few years let’s not go to reputational damage which will affect his income earning capacity for the rest of his life. So what you’re saying if he hadn’t lost his job he’s expected to give away 3 million dollars to whoever. Yeah no.

  160. Steve trickler

    Chuck Norris made the guest list.



  161. Chris

    MITGA – Make Infidel Tiger Great Again.
    Dude, what happened to you?

    Seconded.
    While we are at it, Make Grigory Grate Again.

  162. In my time at high school, boys took a keen interest in female athletics.
    Tis something about the rhythmic bouncing of breasts.

    No argument from me, IR. I was a boy, once, long ago.
    Nonetheless, from a strictly engineering point of view, a woman’s pelvis and knees have not evolved for running, and doing so can, and often does, ultimately lead to serious wear and tear.

    It’s a bit like driving your car around with flat tyres. Not good for the rubber.

  163. feelthebern

    Is he prepared to recompense donors if say he wins $10 million or will he keep the loot?

    Time will tell.
    If he doesn’t, it would be terminal mistake.

  164. Juliet of penrith

    Contrary to some of the comments made Plus did open church properties to Jews for their protection.To have spoken out louder would have risked reprisals.Karl Wolff Ss chief in Italy was asked to formulate a plan to occupy the Vatican. Field Marshall Kesselring at the Nuremberg trials said concerning protests “not only will that not help the news but we must expect that they will then be killed all the more”

  165. JC

    So what you’re saying if he hadn’t lost his job he’s expected to give away 3 million dollars to whoever. Yeah no.

    Well actually I am. Furthermore, a damages award in tax free, so the fucker would be making out like a bandit if he wins the case.

  166. Geriatric Mayfly

    Then there’s the Ves sitting atop of Naples. I mentioned something similar last year and Bruce from N reckons the real fear is that Naples is sitting on a giant magna thingi or whatever that could literally blow up at anytime. Fme.

    The Bay of Naples itself looks suspiciously like an ancient caldera.

  167. None

    JC I don’t know any lawyer in Australia who works for nothing. Even the work for nothing types claim something back from legal aid and the no win no fees crews actually do charge you for certain costs under some other name. Personally I avoid lawyers like the plague even if we do have a few in the family.

  168. JC

    Why didn’t he go with a contingency lawyer, none? Do you know? Has anyone asked?

  169. areff

    areff, it’s Rome, not Naples

    I’ll defer to you. My authority is my ex, a Napoli, who used to mention it as proof that northerners should keep heading north to Switzerland, where she reckoned they belonged.

  170. feelthebern

    Well actually I am. Furthermore, a damages award in tax free, so the fucker would be making out like a bandit if he wins the case.

    As it’s an IR case any payment will be the majority contract being paid out.
    It won’t even have the benefits of an ETP or redundancy.
    His legal fees to get the payout will be deductible.
    Or at least that’s what the regime was in 2014 when I saw someone in NSW go through the process.

  171. JC

    JC I don’t know any lawyer in Australia who works for nothing.

    Contingency is not working for nothing.

  172. None

    Oh I get it now JC. You the flash pop Trader with the New York apartment and the yearly trips to the Amalfi Coast and Southern Italy are now suddenly super jealous that some not so bright Islander from the really rough end of town not only made good but now that he has been or libeled on a global scale and denied the opportunity to make a living is going to make a f****** killing. Got it. Thanks, Mr Green.

  173. Tintarella di Luna

    The internet can be like mainlining hell. Facebook, Twitter and other social media facilitators keep skating responsibility by saying they are not the publishers — yet as one commenter on this story says: “Social media are publishers. They edit, curate and use algorithms to provide targeted content to users. I repeat they are publishers”

    Deadly signals from dark side of the web
    Teenage schoolgirl Ana Kriegel was regularly bullied on the internet before she was lured to her death by a pair of 13-year-old boys.

    CAROLINE OVERINGTON
    ASSOCIATE EDITOR
    @overingtonc

    12:00AM JUNE 22, 2019

    She was a dream come true for her parents: a two-year-old girl, adopted from Russia, needing all the love in the world. How happy they were to provide it.

    The Kriegels, of Ireland, helped little Ana as much as they could, including with poor health, which plagued her from childhood.

    She had a tumour extracted from her brain when she was in primary school, which led to poor eyesight and hearing.

    She had to stand to your right when you spoke so she could hear.

    Ana was unusually tall for her age — by 13, she was 5 foot 8 in the old language (173cm) — and like many girls she was a little shy about it. She could seem a bit awkward and she found learning difficult, and on entering the mean-girl high school years she struggled to make friends, but she liked to record YouTube videos.

    Here I am with my new pink hair, she might say, and her classmates would put up comments like this one: Just die. I’d have you executed. Ana was mocked for not having “real parents” too, but how much more real could they have been? They loved her, encouraged her, took care of her, wanted so much for her to be happy.

    Yet life for Ana was difficult. Other girls walked in groups at recess. She mostly walked alone.

    In April last year, Ana was surprised when she opened the door to her home to find a 13-year-old boy standing there. The courts have called him Boy B. He told her that Boy A — on whom Ana had a bit of a hopeful crush — wanted to meet her in the park.

    The boys led Ana to an abandoned farmhouse about 30 minutes’ walk from town. What happened next beggars belief. The jury in this week’s murder trial was shown a concrete block and a metre-long stick with nails hammered in the end. Ana’s body was found naked and bound. When police searched Boy A’s home they found a backpack stuffed with a zombie mask, black gloves, shin guards and knee pads. Ana’s blood, her DNA, was all over everything.

    Both boys sat quietly throughout the trial, flanked by their parents. They were polite when questioned. They are middle-class kids, basically. When the guilty verdicts came back on Tuesday, Boy B’s father rose in court and started clapping loudly saying: “An innocent boy is going to jail!” He’s furious because although Boy B perhaps delivered Ana up, he didn’t lift a hand to kill her.

    Nor to save her, it seems.

    The boys, both 13 when they plotted and murdered, are due to be sentenced on July 15. The case has received the kind of attention in Ireland that the Jamie Bulger case received in Britain, in part because of the bullying that preceded Ana’s death. It’s a scourge, as we all know. There are also calls for “something to be done” about the source material on which Boy A feasted from about the age of 11.

    Gone are the days when young kids first saw naked women smiling up from the pages of their older brother’s Playboy. Boy A had searched online for things such as “the 15 most gruesome torture methods in history”, and of course he’d found them. He had 12,000 pornographic images stored on his phones, including many scenes of sexual violence: women bound to posts or roped to beds, being raped by men in masks.

    This is difficult terrain: in the 1990s, it was video games making boys into monsters. Before that it was TV. Before that, rock ’n’ roll. Before that, close dancing.

    It’s perhaps equally likely that Boy A was born bad. Evil exists. We know that. But this time the cowboy role played by social media has reached the courts. The two boys can’t be named because of their age, and maybe you’re not in favour of that, thinking the people of Ireland should know who they are. Boy A in particular.

    The mainstream media has dutifully adhered to the court’s ruling but pictures of both have appeared on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, along with their names; plus pictures of an innocent boy, wrongly identified as one of the killers, whose family has now had to abandon their home.

    Alerted to this, the Irish court judge, Michael White, on Thursday ordered senior executives from Facebook and Twitter to explain themselves. In the process, he asked the Garda — the Irish police — to pursue “with vigour” anyone in breach of his orders, adding: “The court has unlimited powers of detention.”

    Facebook’s community operations market manager Eoin McDonald, represented by one of Ireland’s top lawyers, was contrite, telling the judge that Facebook now has available image-matching technology that it can use to pull the images down.

    In a statement, the company said: “Facebook fully understands and respects the importance of protecting the identities of those involved in this case and of complying with Judge White’s court order. We will continue to remove and prevent the re-sharing of content identifying Boy A and Boy B as we become aware of it on Facebook, Instagram and Messenger.”

    Senior counsel Andrew Fitzpatrick, for Twitter, likewise made lots of right noises, and promises, but the position of both companies otherwise remains the same: that they are not publishers.

    The individual user is the publisher. They are tech companies providing not a platform but a product. Such positioning enables tech giants to avoid the restrictions — and the humbling responsibilities — that apply to other publishers, such as newspapers, news programs, and new websites.

    White, in dragging both companies to court, appeared sceptical, and if you’re wondering why both rushed in senior counsel to represent them, it’s because the stakes could not be higher: should this Swiss-cheese edifice crumble, these tech giants may well find themselves responsible for all the defamation, all the harassment, all the vilification and the encouragement to riot that routinely appears online … plus, of course, the incitements to kill.

  174. Infidel Tiger

    Etna produces the most amazing wines.

    Volcanic souls are great for that sort of thing.

  175. Ellie

    What religion are you None, please tell us. 

    Sacred Assembly of the Unshaven Scold

  176. mh

    None
    #3050278, posted on June 23, 2019 at 2:47 pm
    JC, Folau has got the terms and conditions of donations up on his gofundme page. If you don’t like them don’t contribute. Others can make their own judgements and decide for themselves. And as others have pointed out here several times this is not just about money.

    Well put, None. The Left have been marching through Australian institutions for decades, and now they have almost conquered sporting institutions. Those donating to Israel Folau know that they are donating to someone that is fighting against the jackboot pushing down on his throat.

  177. None

    Shorter JC: I don’t like Izzy’s legal strategy even though I don’t have a f****** clue about his income, his assets, what’s in his contract, what the finding against him is, what his chances are, or whether he has a chance of playing rugby again or even having a meaningful job.

  178. and probably tens or hundreds of thousands who share those views.

    As was so ably demonstrated by the result of the SSM plebiscite.

    Oh, wait……

  179. Infidel Tiger

    Folau’s case and cause is righteous, even if he is a blockhead.

    Corporatism is the greatest evil we face and must be destroyed.

  180. JC

    None, Shut up. I’m not jealous in the least. You’re now just hallucinating what I must be thinking because the facts I brought up disturb you.

  181. feelthebern

    Volcanic souls are great for that sort of thing.

    That’s why Hawaii grows the world’s best coffee.

  182. JC

    Folau’s case and cause is righteous, even if he is a blockhead.

    Sure, but his fundme thing is a little on the sleazy side.

  183. JC

    Volcanic souls are great for that sort of thing.

    Sure, until it all blows up taking you along with your house and other assets with it.

  184. Bruce of Newcastle:

    Numbers – You’ve been going on and on fairly obsessively about Boeing for weeks now. That latest link was just one of several that you’ve been posting. Why?

    The Boeing B52s that were bombing Kampuchea just up the road made a huge racket. The vibrations made the earth shake, and spilled his tea.
    Bastard Boeing!

  185. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sacred Assembly of the Unshaven Scold

    If you are going to have a crack at someone else’s religion, at least have the courtesy to declare your own.
    I mean it’s just good manners.
    Everyone knows this.
    You really are a loudmouthed coward otherwise.
    Oh and I was raised Catholic and am now agnostic/Church of Stimp.

    Over to you, None!

  186. John Comnenus

    The Folau go fund me is an excellent double barrelled middle finger salute by the minions to their masters. A sensible and engaged elite would recognise the dangers of the great unwashed getting restless. But they are too arrogant, blinded by their moral superiority constantly fed back to them through the media, arts and sporting fraternities.

    So what if he keeps the money. People were happy that he was highly paid to represent them on the rugby field. I think many others are happy for him to be highly paid to be their champion in a much more important endeavour.

    These people have no one else. No politician, no Bishop and very few talking heads. Folau’s case will be the most important free speech case along with the recent and despicable Gaynor decision which effectively says no employee can publicly disagree with their boss – ever. And of course you can’t do anything that might financially impact the employer. Makes one wonder how Unions are even legal in Australia.

    One would hope Folau wins, otherwise a law will need to be written and it will need to be so simple that even a High Court judge can’t read something into it.

  187. Ellie

    Stimpson, you seem to be under some delusion that I’m some member of the public police. I am not. Let’s not go to the fact that such an entity does not even exist lest I trigger your psychosis. I do not want your care or attention. Perhaps it’s time for you to get an update on your medications instead.

    I think you mean pubic police.

  188. JC

    Talk about lighting up. Driving past, I saw like a bunch of 10 guys either in the process or lighting up a cig or smoking one in a small car park. Funniest thing.

  189. None

    Sure, but his fundme thing is a little on the sleazy side.

    Best doxing strategy I’ve seen to date. It really has exposed all and sundry. Tee her.

  190. Stimpson J. Cat

    Well put, None. The Left have been marching through Australian institutions for decades, and now they have almost conquered sporting institutions. Those donating to Israel Folau know that they are donating to someone that is fighting against the jackboot pushing down on his throat.

    It’s funny you should say that.

    Can any of the Women explain why none of you have started a GoFundMe to combat Transgender Men competing in Women’s Sport?

    Don’t be shy now.

  191. a reader

    What’s interesting is that unlike Rugby, Netball has a set of balls. They basically said Maria Folau’s social media is hers and doesn’t represent the views of Netball South Australia. Simple, clean and done.

    Of course the disgusting leftists have been nothing but vile and abusive on twitter all through her game this afternoon

  192. a reader

    What’s interesting is that unlike Rugby, Netball has a set of male ovoid gonads. They basically said Maria Folau’s social media is hers and doesn’t represent the views of Netball South Australia. Simple, clean and done.

    Of course the disgusting leftists have been nothing but vile and abusive on twitter all through her game this afternoon

  193. None

    If you are going to have a crack at someone else’s religion, at least have the courtesy to declare your own.

    If people want to declare their religion they need to be prepared for people to have a crack at it. You remember that bit where the bishop slaps you at confirmation? Clearly it was all too much for you.

  194. JC

    Seeing all this fundme thing is so easy. I want to sue the hotel where we stayed in Taromina. The fucking arseholes informed the guests by way of the letter drop in rooms that we could not use the pool area and the surrounds from 3.30 onwards on a particular day as they were hosting a wedding, There was nowhere else to sit outside. Don’t ever stay at the Ashbee. In the immortal words of Al Goldstein.. Ashbee Hotel in Taormina… Fuck you!

    At the very least I going to review the arse off them over this.

  195. Ellie:
    The bloke at 1022 – now there’s someone who has been dipping his fingers in the slops tray at the local pub, or he’s got really advanced cardiac/lung issues. Like really advanced.
    You only see oxygen deprived fingertips like that in terminal wards.

  196. Infidel Tiger

    To be able to raise $660k in 3 days is mind boggling.

    There really is a quiet anger out there in the burbs.

    The Normals are fighting back.

  197. Tintarella di Luna

    Folau’s case and cause is righteous, even if he is a blockhead.

    Corporatism is the greatest evil we face and must be destroyed.

    The Go Fund Me is part of the strategy to demonstrate that the public support. The scorn and opprobrium heaped on the CEOs of Rugby Australia and QANTAS is mega and many had wanted such a fund-raising outlet and public comments on articles say that they are supporting something bigger the Israel Folau’s right to quote the Bible —

    The public comments show they are absolutely against employers owning their workers 24/7 — sounds like owning human beings me and that’s agains the law – the public are donating freely and generously to a cause which goes to the heart of our personal freedoms: freedom of speech and freedom of and from religion is not compromised by the whims of vicious incompetents.

  198. Stimpson J. Cat

    If people want to declare their religion they need to be prepared for people to have a crack at it. You remember that bit where the bishop slaps you at confirmation? Clearly it was all too much for you.

    You really are an illmannered evasive coward, aren’t you?

  199. Boambee John

    mv at 1504

    Not good for the rubber.

    Phrasing, Peter!

  200. cohenite

    Head prefect will you STFU about legal costs on account you know FU about them. There are no contingency fees in Australia and conditional costs are not what you are blathering about. Now put up some real estate porn or some holiday pics of you in your jim jams.

  201. feelthebern

    Another angry day at the Cat.

  202. JC

    Cronkite

    There is contingency in Australia. Lawyers advertise this on the radio all the time, you imbecile. I know it’s not 33% like in the US, but there is contingency, you title transfer lawyer. You STFU.

    You’re avoiding the real issue. Falau’s case is a damages case!

  203. Ellie

    Ellie:
    The bloke at 1022 – now there’s someone who has been dipping his fingers in the slops tray at the local pub, or he’s got really advanced cardiac/lung issues. Like reallyadvanced.
    You only see oxygen deprived fingertips like that in terminal wards.

    Winston, it wasn’t his fingertips I observed. Did you watch the whole clip?

  204. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Is he prepared to recompense donors if say he wins $10 million or will he keep the loot?

    JC, I don’t care what he does with the money if he wins. And as I posted above, his donors are adults, its their money to do with as they see fit, be it described as donating/squandering/betting.

    That fact is that many people are sick of being told what to think and how to live their lives but generally they personally can do little to rebel against the PC rubbish that has become endemic in Australia. What has happened to Issy – he is not without loss here, his career maybe permanently damaged because of the stance he has taken – has become a rallying cry, a moment in time, if you will, for all the people in this country who believe in freedom of speech and the rights of workers to have a private life.

    Whenever the holier-than-thou group starts arguing over semantics, like spending OPM, for whatever the reason, when normally they wouldn’t care less, it must be worth it. Like when the Greens were worrying about taxpayer’s money being spent to re-open the Christmas Is, Manus and Nauru processing centres, but didn’t give a dam about that same taxpayer’s money supporting all their favourite causes to the nth degree.

    If Issy wins his case he will have done more for the rights of workers and the free speech of the citizens of this country than has been done for them for many a long year. And a bit like E.J. Whitten, he would have stuck it up them!

  205. Oh come on

    This thread last night – a tale of two Israels.

  206. None

    As was so ably demonstrated by the result of the SSM plebiscite.

    Oh, wait……

    If everyone needed confirmation that numbers was a stock standard member of the socialist politburo this is it. It was not a plebiscite it was a voluntary non-binding postal vote. 52% of the Australian voting population at that time did not actively vote for legalising gay marriage. The minute the vote was counted it was out of date because that cohort of people no longer exists. As it is marriage which is humanity’s oldest social institution and transcends all cultures and religions is not determined by vote or plebiscite or even by a postal vote by one small tiny cohort of Australians at one particular point in time. My god you even think your own marriage is defined by a postal vote.

    Again and again every time numbers posts here I thank god that no kid down here ever came near him in a school.

    Say numbers can you tell us what that “ATSIC flag” in your church looks like and what country or people it represents?

    I can tell you that numbers represents the archetypal public servant. He defines students, teachers and entire groups of Australians as well as humanity’s oldest social institution according to some public sector definition. F*** imagine being a people defined by a defunct public sector organisation flag complete with public sector acronym. I don’t think I have ever read a bigger insult. He even judges his own success as an educator according to his public sector pay grade. Hollow doesn’t even begin to describe you, number’s. For god’s sake turn off the computer and go and play with your grandchildren. When you next go to mass try this. Forget the canned prayers and see if you can address god as Father, Father, straight from your heart. You’re an old man; why not spend the rest of your life learning how to be human again?

  207. JC

    Cronkite

    Tort lawyers adverstise on radio they will only collect fees on a win. That’s contingency! It may not be identical to the US system but it perfectly fits within the definition of the word. You idiot.

  208. cohenite

    Deadly signals from dark side of the web
    Teenage schoolgirl Ana Kriegel was regularly bullied on the internet before she was lured to her death by a pair of 13-year-old boys.

    CAROLINE OVERINGTON
    ASSOCIATE EDITOR
    @overingtonc

    12:00AM JUNE 22, 2019

    People are born bad; one of the foundational lies of the left is that they are not and when people go off the rails it’s someone else’s fault, always the current ideological villain.

    Apart from the evil manifested by the boys the other crucial issue is the media platforms disavowing publisher status which if they had would enable them to be sued for the consequences of what they publish. But here’s the twist since they’re not publishers just a platform they can’t censor. Any censorship or favouritism implies a publishing intent. So if people are censored they can sue for that. The platforms are between a rock and a hard place.

  209. JC

    You may not care, but I do. If he wins the case he should return the donations. That would be the ethical thing to do.

  210. None

    You really are an illmannered evasive coward, aren’t you?

    Nope, I think said you’re a stirrer and I’m just getting some of your own back. Suck on it, sunshine.

  211. stackja

    Israel Folau Legal Action Fund
    $664,458 of $3.0M goal
    Raised by 8,722 people in 4 days

  212. Oh come on

    As was so ably demonstrated by the result of the SSM plebiscite

    When 38% of voters opposed SSM? This isn’t a tiny minority. It’s a huge chunk of the population.

  213. Leigh Lowe

    The public comments show they are absolutely against employers owning their workers 24/7 — 

    Blackbirding 2019 style.

  214. cohenite

    Nah, you’re wrong head prefect: contingent fees are not conditional fees; the former take a proportion of any award, the latter only occur if there is a win and are not based on the size of the award but the lawyers reasonable fees.

    Now apologise or put up pics of you in your G-string.

  215. None

    It’s a nice to know that you care, JC. Our lives are now complete. Next.

  216. Ellie

    Winston, it wasn’t his fingertips I observed. Did you watch the whole clip?

    Or maybe you did 😁

  217. bespoke

    Tintarella di Luna
    #3050305, posted on June 23, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    Very sad story.

  218. None

    Cohenite – of course they censor because they suspend people for what they deem to be wrong views and they control the access to your own content.

  219. dover_beach

    Let’s not go to the fact that such an entity does not even exist

    As Aquinas might say: God is not an entity, but Entity itself.

  220. Entropy

    This isn’t one of those regular campaigns where the person is raises legal funding to protect himself. This is going to be a lawsuit for a damages award

    Yeah, and I really, really want that to happen, JC. And to demonstrate that desire and support to the apparently filthy rich happy clapper who has annoyed a bunch of journalists, I donated. The caliber of a person can be seen by their enemies, and I quite like the cut of his jib.

    On the other side of course, Morticia Dibley will be using OPM to combat the case. And she won’t be fund raising.

  221. Val Majkus

    Deadly signals from dark side of the web
    Teenage schoolgirl Ana Kriegel was regularly bullied on the internet before she was lured to her death by a pair of 13-year-old boys.

    what a terrible story

  222. None

    Bless you Dover but I was referring to Stiimpy’s public police. *sigh*

  223. bespoke

    I think you mean pubic police.

    with X-ray vision.
    👍👍

  224. cohenite

    The point None, is based on their own self description, there would be grounds for litigation if your rights are infringed by them. They would have several defences available to them no doubt but the counter argument of them having their cake and eating it as well would be forceful when they are contravening someone else’s equitable rights.

  225. None

    Blackbirding 2019 style.

    Oh ouch. Well said.

  226. There really is a quiet anger out there in the burbs.
    The Normals are fighting back.

    Once again I think you have hit the nail on the head. IT.
    It’s just a wild, unsupported guess, but I reckon a lot less than half of the donations to Folau’s Go Fund Me account have been from people wanting to specifically support his case against RA.

    I think the greater portion of the donations are from ordinary folk who are sick to death of being lectured on how and what to think about just about everything, by self-appointed moral guardian arseholes who claim to know what’s best for the rest of us.

    Somehow, for some reason, this case has caused a lot of people to simply say ” enough is enough”.

  227. John Comnenus

    The go fund me ensures he can pay all fees if he loses, including the ARU costs. Not stupid or greedy. As Trump would say – protect the downside.

  228. None

    I’d like to see someone take them on cohenite because of the way they like to have their cake and eat it too.

  229. woolfe

    If he wins the case he should return the donations. That would be the ethical thing to do.

    Stuff that, Alan Joyce will make a fortune.

  230. Stimpson J. Cat

    Nope, I think said you’re a stirrer and I’m just getting some of your own back. Suck on it, sunshine.

    No, stirring would be calling C.L. an Anti-Semite and then refusing to explain why.
    Or criticising other religions without stating your own.

    This would be stirring, Dopey.

    But feel free to focus back on Numbers to avoid scrutiny.

  231. None

    MV – this is why it’s been very instructive to scroll through the donatins and look at the names that they use. One or two have dedined themselves as quiet Australians. There’s one who I think has put up tens of 5 dollar donations who is really angry at the media. That even without that one there are plenty who have donated in the name of Drew Mitchell as well as Alan Joyce. In marketing a complaint generally represents a bigger proportion of people than a compliment and I think Israel Folau has some sizeable support despite a lot of people probably not knowing who he was before this or blew up. Rugby union certainly isn’t a big thing in most parts of Australia.

  232. In both izzy’s case and the cardinal case, my preferred outcome is for a few “random” lightning strikes to fry the totalitarians.

    The criticisms of Christians would be moderated over time as the lightning strikes continued.

  233. None

    MV – this is why it’s been very instructive to scroll through the donations and look at the names that they use. One or two have defined themselves as ‘quiet Australians’. There’s one who I think has put up tens of 5 dollar donations who is really angry at the media. TBut even without that one there are plenty who have donated in the name of Drew Mitchell (sanctimonious medua) as well as Alan Joyce. In marketing a complaint generally represents a bigger proportion of people than a compliment and I think Israel Folau has some sizeable support despite a lot of people probably not knowing who he was before this or blew up. Rugby union certainly isn’t a big thing in most parts of Australia.

  234. None

    As Trump would say – protect the downside.

    Indeed. And a punter having a $10 bet that he might succeed is not bad given the size of the return (in non monetary terms) if he wins.
    The lefties are pissed because he’s beating them at their own game.

  235. despite a lot of people probably not knowing who he was before this or blew .
    up. Rugby union certainly isn’t a big thing in most parts of Australia.

    That’s me down to a tee, None.
    Had no idea who or what Folau is or was, and I’m not into any team sports, least of all RU.
    For me it was simply a way of saying “up yours” to the whole control freak crowd and their agenda.

  236. None

    Stimpson when you return to your church and make amends with your god, I might listen to you. But basically I find dropouts like you rather pathetic. Expecting me to respect a god that you don’t respect yourself. Pfft. Sod off now.

  237. Leigh Lowe

    a reader
    #3050325, posted on June 23, 2019 at 3:24 pm
    What’s interesting is that unlike Rugby, Netball has a set of male ovoid gonads. They basically said Maria Folau’s social media is hers and doesn’t represent the views of Netball South Australia. Simple, clean and done.

    This is good.
    Finally sports administrators are waking up that employees are paid to do a job, and that their opinions are their own.
    And this old catch-all canard of “bringing the game into disrepute” is about to be blown up.

    Will Netty sponsors risk a backlash by caving in to the filth out there slandering Maria Folau?

    Six months ago I would have said yes, but now I think they can see that there is more damage to be done by being seen to shut her up.

    And this would be worse than Izzy’s case. It would be seen that she was copping a whack for simply standing by her husband. That will not play well.

  238. None

    I’m in the same boat, MV.

  239. Tel

    The SSM postal vote was never about religious freedom … they are utterly and completely separate issues. Redefining the word “marriage” does not have any effect whatsoever on Australians’ ability to practice their religion, nor their ability to honestly and openly speak their beliefs.

    I know this for sure … because Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull gave me his PERSONAL assurance. That should be good enough for all of you as well. Don’t trust any dumb schmuck on the Internet telling you otherwise.

  240. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson when you return to your church and make amends with your god, I might listen to you. But basically I find dropouts like you rather pathetic. Expecting me to respect a god that you don’t respect yourself. Pfft. Sod off now.

    So my relationship with my God determines your answer to a question about your God?
    Ha ha ha ja!
    No, this just another pitiful attempt to justify evading the question.

    You are a coward.

    Very low energy and sad.

  241. None

    Well done Netball South Australia. Hold the line.

  242. Caveman

    I’m waiting till Izzys fund me gets to $1m , then I’ll put in some coin. Thats a nice wet your pants entry point.

  243. dover_beach

    And this would be worse than Izzy’s case. It would be seen that she was copping a whack for simply standing by her husband. That will not play well.

    That was the aspect that really stuck in my craw, yesterday. Quite despicable, that article.

  244. Infidel Tiger

    Clyde Rathbone

    @ClydeRathbone
    For three million I will make sweet love to Israel Folau. We can even do it in a church to make sure it’s not gay sex. Call me @IzzyFolau. #IsraelFolau #Gofundme #blessed #Iamserious

    11:39 AM – Jun 23, 2019

  245. Mitch M.

    Somehow, for some reason, this case has caused a lot of people to simply say ” enough is enough”.

    MV that has been stirring for quite a while. Had to happen eventually so that all those bloody crusaders are sent packing.

    If people really want this to hit home: start a campaign against flying Qantas and make it about this case.

  246. mh:

    The Left have been marching through Australian institutions for decades, and now they have almost conquered sporting institutions.

    I’m going to go out on a bit of a limb here, but a couple of things have been said over the last few days to have me thinking that the whole Folau affair may be a chance to collapse the consumerist edifice that ‘Saturday Sports’ has become.
    Now we have administrators who’ve taken control of footy and soccer, etc and only think of their bonuses, just what did happen to Club Ettamoga playing Club Brighton Wharfies?
    Well, they usually just organised themselves into teams having community based fields. The players were the community and generally a good time was had by all.
    Then the spivs saw the potential and the sports butterfly metamorphosed into the grub of corporatism.
    That’s how the Left were able to get in – they saw a juicy fat target and fed on it.

    OK, that’s a fairly poor summation of the process, but perhaps now’s the time for the communities to retake their game.

  247. None

    You are a coward.

    You’re too scared to go back to your church. Too scared to own up to your own god. Probably scared shitless he might forgive you. And you call me a coward. *snort* Better stick to posting pictures of you in a G-string.

  248. Stimpson J. Cat

    You’re too scared to go back to your church. Too scared to own up to your own god. Probably scared shitless he might forgive you. And you call me a coward. *snort* Better stick to posting pictures of you in a G-string.

    Why is it so hard to profess your faith publicly?
    You know, like Israel Folau who you hold in such high esteem?
    Don’t let us Men be forced to do all the work, coward.

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