Folau donation site

It looks as though the Australian Christian Lobby has stepped up to rise funds for Israel Folau. This will cost Go Fund Me a bundle, did they seriously think they could derail this move to protect freedom of belief and speech?

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65 Responses to Folau donation site

  1. stackja

    ACL

    $143,867.84 raised

  2. woolfe

    But will all the donations by Alan Joyce be returned to him? If so he will make a bundle.

  3. Ryan

    Will be doubling the donation I made via GoFuckYourself, and I know a lot of others are doing the same.

  4. I saw Eric Abetz on 7 this morning and he was quite reasonable defending Folau and putting GoFundMe in its place. However, the interviewer was doing her best to make Abetz and Folau look bad and GoFundMe look good. Little wonder that I despise the media so much.

  5. mh

    Nothing good comes out of the disease ridden cesspool of Californication.

    Go Fuck Yourselves are just the latest in a line of unnecessary ‘woke’ Californicators.

    And Macquarie Sports Radio should hang their heads in shame for directly lobbying Go Fuck Yourselves to take down Izzy’s page.

  6. Graham

    Does anyone know how GoF-ckMe processes refunds? I saw over at Bernard Gaynor’s site an implication that they will still take their 10%.

  7. Does anyone know how GoF-ckMe processes refunds? I saw over at Bernard Gaynor’s site an implication that they will still take their 10%

    It’s run by Leftists, they most certainly take their 10% if not more, just to stuck it up conservatives. Fairness and all that you know.

  8. None

    No refund from gofuckme yet but yes we will be doubling as well.
    ACL must have tipped in their 100k because I just looked at it’s already over 200000

  9. Perplexed of Brisbane

    Graham and Bemused,

    I just got an email from them saying they are refunding my donation plus the tip which indicates that I will be getting the whole amount back.

    After all, they wouldn’t want to be tainted by filthy conservative money.

  10. Mallee Miss

    I just donated. It never ceases to amaze me that leftists think they have the right to tell me what I can spend my money on. Free speech is too important to lose. Time to take a stand!

  11. Tom

    This is a major learning moment for Australians, who are now realising how unlike them are most journalists and talking heads on TV. Public trust in the media was already in the toilet; it’s now under the floorboards in the sewer.

  12. Leigh Lowe

    Graham and Bemused,

    I just got an email from them saying they are refunding my donation plus the tip which indicates that I will be getting the whole amount back.

    After all, they wouldn’t want to be tainted by filthy conservative money.

    The virtue signaling boss would probably have wanted to keep the tips and make a grand fuck you gesture of donatimg them to a QWERTY charity.
    The lawyers would have said no.

  13. Jannie

    I haven’t got my refund yet, the email may have gone to spam. I am thinking of doubling my kick but my wife is worried I am becoming obsessive. But whatever she still admires Maria Folau and agrees with me on this.

  14. Driftforge

    Will be interesting to see if this results in a class action or alternatively an organised ‘request for arbitration’ against Go Fund Me.

    Vox Day seems to be traveling pretty well in his similar actions against Indiegogo.

  15. Iampeter

    Thanks for the link everyone.
    It’s important that you send money to a millionaire rugby player to help him dispute his firing.

    Gotta fight for those special priveledges for your protected class, right?
    Teach private enterprise that they don’t get to enjoy free speech or property rights when it comes to Christians.

    Milk those clueless boomers in the name of your particular SJW cause!

  16. Jannie

    I just did it, double the previous. Go Izzy!!!!!

  17. Jannie

    Don’t engage with the Troll.

  18. mh

    Iampeter, told us yesterday that he had nothing left to say on this issue.

    But here he is again. Nothing new. Same old re-hashed Ayn Rand talking points.

    Sad.

  19. Jannie

    $281,044.02 raised
    GOAL: $3,000,000.00

  20. Jannie

    Don’t encourage him mh. He might go away if you ignore him, but if you feed him he will foul the place even more.

  21. Ubique

    We doubled our donation. GoFundMe will never see us again.

  22. Helen

    $285,584.02 raised

    I timesed mine by 5. I wrote back to Gofuckyou when they sent me an email this morning

    This is the last time I ever donate to any gofundme campaign. I used to do so regularly, but your sanctimonious weak gutted cave in against free speech has cruelled your organisation to me for ever.

    I trust you will also be refunding all the commission you took from those who donated. To not do so would be extortion.

  23. Rae

    It’s a no from me.

    #gofundyourselfizzy

  24. Jannie

    Onya Helen, good work.

  25. Behind Enemy Lines

    If GFY wanted to deny a platform to the QWERTY set, the business would be smashed to pieces overnight by Australia’s legal system. Is that an option for Folau, too? Or does it just cut one way under Australian law? I don’t mean this as snark; I genuinely don’t understand why Folau (or the government, since it’s a “human rights” issue) aren’t already hitting GFY with an injunction and following up with a billion-dollar suit. Surely the time is at hand. There could hardly be a better case to run with. The whole of normal legacy Australia has had a gutful of this rubbish. The government’s on a roll. And not even the Lügenpresse can lie the Folau case into oblivion.

    So: why not?

  26. Rafe

    Who speaks for Macquarie Sports? I expected support from Ray Hadley and his continuous call team.
    What is Alan Jones saying?
    I have serious writing to do on climate and cant be disracted all day by other things.
    Will donate twice original intention.

  27. Old School Conservative

    So: why not?

    Because they say in their terms and conditions “we can do whatever we want to”.
    I’m not a legal eagle, so this is opinion not fact.

  28. egg_

    And Macquarie Sports Radio should hang their heads in shame for directly lobbying Go Fuck Yourselves to take down Izzy’s page.

    The irony – how many “hospital beds” do Sports Stadia cost?
    Just ask Gladys.

  29. Beertruk

    Beertickets donated as requested. Good to see that ACL picked it up and are running with it.

  30. stackja

    Rafe
    #3052582, posted on June 25, 2019 at 9:07 am

    AJ not happy.

  31. mh

    Rafe
    #3052582, posted on June 25, 2019 at 9:07 am
    Who speaks for Macquarie Sports? I expected support from Ray Hadley and his continuous call team.
    What is Alan Jones saying?…

    Listened to highlights of the day on Macquarie Sports radio last night. One of the highlights was broadcasters – 3 I think – congratulating themselves on their efforts lobbying GFM to remove Izzy’s page. They were horrified that Izzy managed to get to 3/4 million dollars in such a short time. Another broadcaster, fatso Mark Levy, always returns to how outrageous Izzy’s social media post was telling people to repent otherwise they will go to hell.

    Over at 2gb Ray Hadley wants donators to think of the sick kiddies.
    Alan Jones is the grown up who defends freedom of Christians to express themselves.

  32. Joanna

    And Macquarie Sports Radio should hang their heads in shame for directly lobbying Go Fuck Yourselves to take down Izzy’s page.

    Fools. Yesterday afternoon Mark and David were shocked, totally mind-blown, at how much had been raised in a few days. David said it was ‘dumb’. Get that donators – you’re dumb. Such a shame because I’ve really enjoyed MSR, but i’m switching back to SEN.

  33. It's Remarkable

    $370k at 9.34am

  34. Roger

    It looks as though the Australian Christian Lobby has stepped up to rise funds for Israel Folau.

    Brilliant.

    But I hope they’ve also stepped up their security.

  35. mh

    Joanna, who are the Mark and David?

    I only hear a bit of the breakfast show.

  36. Iva Right

    Won’t be donating to anything on go fund me from now on. Don’t care how worthy the cause. If the left supports it, it’s dead to me!

  37. Ian Teh

    Looks like I wasn’t too alone in being totally annoyed at what GFM did…and neither was I alone in going straight to the ACL site to tip in my contribution, just to stick it up GFM if for nothing else.

  38. stackja

    ACL $392,634.97 raised over halfway to GFM

  39. Joanna

    mh, they are the drive hosts. Former SEN team. Mark was a pro golfer and David an AFL player. Their show is good fun, but they should have stuck to the entertaining part of sport and leave the politics out of it.

  40. Mother Lode

    I just got an email from them saying they are refunding my donation plus the tip which indicates that I will be getting the whole amount back.

    I believe they announced that they would be returning the tips as well.

    Having made a public statement I doubt they would be wanting to exacerbate or prolong the storm they are presently in, and invite government intervention (one of the fundamental forces that permeates the entire universe is the attraction between government and intervention of any sort).

    The decision to even announce refunding in toto was surely part of this strategy.

    Timing might be another matter – the more noise you make the quicker it might be returned.

  41. Roger

    I note the devotees of a certain religion are very quiet.

    Not wanting to draw attention to all the mosque appeals on GFM?

  42. Mother Lode

    I am a bit surprised that GoFuckYourself doesn’t review the accounts as they go up. We are not talking about a flurry of activity like Twatter where they must guard against thousands of pro-Trump tweets a day.

    Certainly most things would go through on the nod – if people don’t like it they won’t donate, so no harm no foul. But Izzy has been in the news in Australia for a while and his account was announced and up for days before they ‘reviewed’ it.

  43. Warty

    Considering Rafe’s response to commentators . . . well yes, Climate Change ideology is a significant building block in the Left’s attempt to remake society in their own image; but this freedom of speech issue, this freedom of religion issue, is of paramount importance too.
    The way I see it, one’s ability to express what one thinks (and to then ‘put it out there’) should be visceral/ unquestionably innate, otherwise one cannot trust, feel easy, and feel able to communicate with everyone else regardless of their inclinations.
    Society is sick and there is such a need to find ways of making her better.

  44. HP

    Re-donated. 10 times the amount I dropped in the first time.

    I am not a Christian, not a rugby fan, didn’t know the guy from a bar of soap (before the SSM debate).
    But there is something about this situation with Folau that is starting to really tick me off.

    It his being made an example of.
    It is him getting sacked for quoting the bible in his own free time.
    It is the moral posing by corporates, with their “values” that read like a Greens Manifesto.
    It is the slimy, deceitful sabotage by the media, harping on his property portfolio – while everyone knows the aim is financially break this man. So effectively they are asking: how does this man have the gall to resist our effort to financially decimate him?
    Then came the parading the “legal doubts” and impugning Folau’s motives as if there ever was any doubt to his motives or how this man was going to spend the money.

    But now I am adding to the list shameless, evil abuse of raw power to crush this man’s spirit as shown by Go-Ef-Me.

  45. Mother Lode

    I note the devotees of a certain religion are very quiet.

    When they launch gay men from the tops of buildings that is culture.

    When Izzy says that, if they resist sodomy and turn to Jesus, they will share eternal bliss in the afterlife, that is hate.

  46. Rafe Champion

    Warty and others, it is good to keep discussion going here and even better to get onto other sites where there is not rock solid support for freedom.
    I am not virtue-signalling how much I tipped in, it is twice my original plan. Also this week i am donating to CIS, Quadrant, IPA and Mannkal. I scarcely have a taxable income so the tax deducible donations go in via my children.

  47. Jock

    Interestingly it will be interesting to see how quickly GoFundLeftists will be able to refund the money. As anyone with transaction expertise will tell you. Each donor needs to be verified and their bank or financial institutions account details verified and input. The transactions cant just be reversed. This will take time with in excess of 10K donors. I doubt they have the staff to do this. It begs the question of whether people will get their funds back in a week or even a month. If the funds are not returned with the same speed as the Fund was taken down then will they be taken to the Small Claims courts for redress. One could add that taking the 2.2% charge will be cute if no service was actually given. Just asking.

  48. Rafe Champion

    What is the situation if the Folau team were taking money out as it came in?
    What is the procedure? When is the money passed to the Beneficiary?
    How much of the total donated was still in house when they stopped collecting?
    It looks as though all the money that is there will end up with Folau times x given the feedback from a lot of people, but it might take some time to arrive.

  49. Warty

    Perhaps the focus ought not to be on Israel Folau, or his team, but rather the fact that this is proving to be a truly significant test case. And this is also the counter to those who question setting up the fund in the first place . . . it doesn’t really matter Israel has better than average bank balance and property portfolio: he represents a significant segment of the Silent Majority: he is out there doing his bit to prevent an Orwellian dark tide of tyranny.
    Sounds dramatic, but this stuff seeps in when we’re asleep.

  50. Behind Enemy Lines

    Warty
    #3052807, posted on June 25, 2019 at 11:36 am
    Perhaps the focus ought not to be on Israel Folau, or his team, but rather the fact that this is proving to be a truly significant test case.

    My point exactly. This looks like the Mother Of All Test Cases. And the timing is right to pursue it.

    And before the usual moaners chime in: remember, Libertarianism isn’t a suicide pact.

  51. Iampeter

    Warty and others, it is good to keep discussion going here and even better to get onto other sites where there is not rock solid support for freedom.

    Fighting for special priveledge for your particular victim group, freedom be damned, is not indicative of “support for freedom.”

    The “discussion” so far has been what I expect to see from teenage SJW’s.

  52. 2dogs

    So: why not?

    GoFundMe may have a case to answer for defamation.

  53. duncanm

    So I see fairfax has gone silent on the surging donations. Too embarrassing.

  54. HP

    So I see fairfax has gone silent on the surging donations. Too embarrassing.

    Too right.

    At Qantas, RA, ABC and Fairfax, they are sitting there pressing F5, F5, F5 … – fuming and seething at every refresh as the number soars.

  55. Will be interesting to see if this results in a class action or alternatively an organised ‘request for arbitration’ against Go Fund Me.

    I would hope so. We all donated money in good faith, to an organisation that had accepted the gig from Folau, only to see it dishonoured. To now have to wait for a refund, plus (in our case) a “tip” that we did not authorise, is outrageous.

  56. Mother Lode

    Channel 10 should give some thought as to whether the ill-researched and ill-conceived hit pieces from Das Projekt is damaging their brand.

    I suspect they are still wincing from the way they were reamed when they signed up Wilkinson. And if they dumped the show and its bumbling menagerie they could replace it with Australia’s Funniest Groin Injuries and keep exactly the same audience.

  57. Kneel

    Fighting for special priveledge for your particular victim group, freedom be damned, is not indicative of “support for freedom.”

    It’s hard for me to see how what was done brings the game into disrepute – it was not said in the name of the game, nor the name of the team, but merely as an expression of personal opinion, made on his own time, on his own FB account.
    Nor can I see how the comment itself can be seen as “inflammatory” – urging change in others when they appear to be doing things against their own best interest hardly sounds like “hate speech” to me.
    And whether or not you agree with him, it seems these are strongly held beliefs.
    Sacking for a first offense seems a little strong under the circumstances – what happened to “inclusiveness” and “tollerance”, or is that a one-way street, only for the self-identified “victims” whom, it seems, have yet to produce any evidence of “harm” or “damage” of any sort other than speculative.
    So given the above, I find it hard to see why you, Peter, don’t see the implications of allowing this to stand – capricious attempt to avoid “controversy” by denying him his contractual rights by a party with significantly more resources at its disposal. Why don’t you support him? Or do you think it reasonable that the amount of money you can afford to spend determines whether you get justice or not? Can you afford to enforce the terms of your mortgage(s)? What about your service contracts – electricity, gas, internet… Any could drag you through sufficient lawfare to exhaust any but the top 1% or so.

  58. Frosty

    I hadn’t given any $$$ before, but I have now. Seeing that moralising red bandanna up on his high horse really made my blood boil.

  59. Rafe Champion

    As to the size of the collection, there is still the refunds to come from GFM that in most cases will be multiplied by an aggravation factor from 2 to 5 on the evidence so far.
    The ripples are still spreading, thanks to the MSM so there are a still a lot of people yet to realise what is happening.
    There is likely to be some discussion among congregations on Sunday.
    We have yet to see money from overseas where I guarantee there are punters who will come to the party in numbers if there is any need.

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