Tuesday Forum: June 25, 2019

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  1. notafan

    first for the first time in years

  2. notafan

    made it three for the heck of it

  3. Infidel Tiger

    CNBC
    @CNBC
    Fresh beef helps McDonald’s gain market share for the first time in 5 years

    World’s best corporation.

  4. Roger

    What a righteous time to be alive!

  5. Johno

    sssshhhh don’t tell the condescending conscript.

  6. stackja

    ACL

    $469,731.00 raised

  7. Black Ball

    Exploding heads on Facebook this morning about Israel Folau. Very humourous.

  8. None

    Any favorites Black Ball?

  9. Roger

    There is actually an Israel Folau Street in Goodna, a suburb of Ipswich just west of Brisbane with a high Pacific Islander population.

    I’d love to see some SJWanker petition the Ipswich council to change it.

  10. C.L.

    If you go to the Edwards piece, she links to “research” on ALPHABET mental health, suicide attempts etc. She claims those worse-than-heterosexual statistics are “a direct result of the stigma, prejudice, discrimination and abuse [homosexuals] experience.” This is not demonstrated in any of those statistics. I should say alleged statistics because the bibliography at the bottom of the page is made up almost exclusively of lightweight, advocate-authored tracts. It may very well be trying to be homosexual in a heterosexual world. That isn’t hard to believe and I sympathise with sufferers (and would always insist they be protected and not bullied). But this is not evidence of fault, let aone fault ascribable to Christians.

  11. Leigh Lowe

    Exploding heads on Facebook this morning about Israel Folau. Very humourous.

    What seems to be the problem?
    Private citizens giving cash to another private citizen to fund a court case, the basis of which is fully transparent and widely known?

  12. notafan

    Mr Shelley, founder of digital media agency Pepper IT, said the reaction to Folau’s crowdfunding campaign had been significant because it contrasted with the “Aussie battler spirit … where we’re always happy to help someone who is genuinely in need”.

    “The outrage has come not so much from the underlying religious beliefs of Israel but from a mindset of this is someone who has a job that many, many people would dream of

    One thing is for sure Mr Shelly does not know any ‘Aussie battlers’

  13. dover_beach

    Britain says no to forced abortions — for now: An appellate court in London on Monday pulled England’s justice system back from the brink of Chinese- and North Korean-style barbarism — but only at the 11th hour. The Court of Appeals held that doctors can’t forcibly perform an abortion on a pregnant woman with intellectual disabilities.

    Good news.

  14. Bruce of Newcastle

    Winning!

    15,000 Mexican Troops Deployed To US Border

    In an ongoing effort to stem the flow of illegal immigration into the United States and avoid tariffs from the Trump administration, Mexico has deployed approximately 15,000 National Guardsmen and soldiers to the border, according to AFP, citing the country’s army chief. … When asked if troops were detaining migrants to prevent them from entering the US, Sandoval said “yes.”

    Ironic that the Mexican Army, which invaded Texas and took the Alamo, is now stopping an invasion of Texas by people from the Congo, Bangladesh and other far away lands.

  15. Some History

    There’s The Dancing Pirate (1936) on Ch 44.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    this is someone who has a job that many, many people would dream of

    Had.
    Not has.
    Past tense.
    That is what this is all about.
    This is no mere grammatical error.
    They want to create the impression among low info lefty voters that Folau still has a million dollar job.

  17. My subscription to the Telegraph ends next Sunday…..so just had a look and they have uploaded this…much more nuanced, more perspective and less hostility…far too late for my money…..

    “Australian Christian Lobby sets up new donation site for Israel Folau’s legal bid against Rugby Australia
    Punters are pouring more than $1000 a minute into Israel Folau’s new Australian Christian Lobby fundraising website prompting supporters to declare Australians are refusing to “bow to the gods of political correctness”.
    Punters are pouring more than $1000 a minute into Israel Folau’s new Australian Christian Lobby fundraising website prompting supporters to declare Australians are refusing to “bow to the gods of political correctness”.
    Donations have surged passed $400,000 this morning and at this rate, by the end of the day, Folau will have earnt back more than the $765,000 he lost when GoFundMe banned him from their platform.
    “The Australian Christina Lobby is thrilled to be able to help Israel Folau, who has not only lost his career, been banned for life, and been lied about, but has also had his fundraising support taken from him. Along with most Australians, we continue to stand with him,” an ACL spokeswoman told the Daily Telegraph.
    “GoFundMe’s decision has increased the outpouring of support for Israel Folau, with well over half the funds raised in four days being recouped in just eight hours through the ACL website.”
    “Israel’s case is our case as Australians, because it goes to the heart of what it means to live freely, without persecution, even for those who refuse to bow to the gods of political correctness.”
    Meanwhile, on GoFundMe, campaigns to raise funds to fight against Folau have hit a roadblock.
    A campaign titled “No to Folau” launched five days ago with a goal of raising $3 million to “match” Folau’s donations. But this morning donations were starting to stagnate with just $15,804 raised in total.
    Managing director of the ACL, Martyn Iles, said they will also be donating $100,000 to “help out with Folau’s legal defence.”
    It comes amid revelations that while GoFundMe has banned Folau, it has kept in place a donations page for a Canadian preacher who was arrested for making “disparaging’’ comments about the LGBTI community.
    “The success of the Folau fundraiser was giving ‘quiet Australians’ a voice,” he said.
    “By launching an alternative fundraising site to GoFundMe, we are ensuring that the voice of quiet Australians continues to be heard and Israel Folau continues to know that he is not alone.
    “Folau’s supporters will only be emboldened in their commitment by what has happened. They were concerned about their freedoms, and GoFundMe has yet again reminded them that their concerns are real.
    “Israel’s case is our case if we want to live free and embrace our beliefs without fear of being marginalised or discriminated against.”
    A screen grab of Israel Folau’s online GoFundMe campaign on Monday.
    All the funds raised through the new website will be deposited into a legal trust account “to be used exclusively for legal expenses incurred by Israel Folau”, Mr Iles said.
    The Daily Telegraph can also reveal that Folau’s camp investigated taking legal action against GoFundMe on the basis of religious discrimination but has decided not to proceed “at this time”.
    Folau’s fundraiser was canned after GoFundMe was engulfed by a social media backlash, including a change.org petition signed by 95,000 people who argued the footballer was “not entitled” to commit “disgraceful behaviour” and “blatant discrimination”. There were also complaints that Folau’s substantial personal wealth, including a $7 million property portfolio, meant he should not be accepting donations using a website where the parents of sick children raise funds for operations.
    Folau in November 2018 ahead of the international rugby union test match against Wales. Picture: AFP/Geoff CaddickThe sacked rugby player received backlash over the GoFundMe page in light of his own considerable wealth. Picture: Getty/Cameron Spencer
    A GoFundMe spokeswoman said Folau’s campaign violated the website’s terms and conditions which forbid funds being raised for ‘the promotion of discrimination or exclusion”.
    “Today we will be closing Israel Folau’s campaign and issuing full refunds to all donors,” she said.
    “After a routine period of evaluation, we have concluded that this campaign violates our terms of service. As a company, we are absolutely committed to the fight for equality for LGBTIQ+ people and fostering an environment of inclusivity. While we welcome GoFundMe engaging in diverse civil debate, we do not tolerate the promotion of discrimination or exclusion.”

    Message to the Telegraph….when you lie down with leftists….what do you wake up with?

  18. None

    485000. Uppity Islander Pentecostal Christian supporters from all walks of life and all religions and none give the chattering class the big finger. I watched a lot of the donations coming in on gofundme but the rate of donation now is like 10 times faster and I know a lot of people have not received refunds from gfound me.

  19. Mother Lode

    Mr Shelley, founder of digital media agency Pepper IT,

    Yup, founders of IT companies of which I have never heard are my usual go-to when I want to understand what normal people are thinking. Hey, GoFuckYourself gauged the public mood perfectly judging by Izzy’s new fundraising platform.

  20. Bubbles

    Upped my $100 with GFM to $250 with ACL (a considerable sum for me). There is no choice. This fight must be won.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    This is going to choke Rugby Australia, probably sending them bankrupt.
    This doesn’t mean I want the sport itself destroyed.

    They need to force the board and the Vicar out, and not with big redundancies.
    Fired for incompetence and replaced with people who genuinely love the game, with a CEO salary well under half the $800k the Vicar is paid now.

    Part of this is to re-write the charter to focus on managing the game – no more, no less – and specifically exclude forays into social issues unless they are very specifically altruistic (eg raising money for kids cancer without paying Bandana Man $8k to free-load).

  22. dover_beach

    Mr Shelley, founder of digital media agency Pepper IT, said the reaction to Folau’s crowdfunding campaign had been significant because it contrasted with the “Aussie battler spirit … where we’re always happy to help someone who is genuinely in need”.

    All the wrong takes. Just amazing insularity in a single sentence.

  23. Infidel Tiger

    Be a lot cheaper to fire the board of RA and Cheika and rehire Izzy.

    Would create much goodwill too.

  24. Mother Lode

    Punters are pouring more than $1000 a minute into Israel Folau’s new Australian Christian Lobby fundraising website prompting supporters to declare Australians are refusing to “bow to the gods of political correctness”.

    New Australian?

    That is just one step up from calling him a ‘wog’.

    Fie on those contumelious rascal editors!

  25. stackja

    Leigh Lowe
    Yep, the run rate is $100k per hour.
    3:30 am $20k
    7:00 am $70k
    8:00 am $167k
    9:00 am $286k
    10:00 am $413k

    10:57 am $503,703.00 raised

  26. Black Ball

    I won’t name names None but quite a few are bemoaning his efforts. And yes Leigh Lowe, duly noted, but not by our self appointed elites. Schadenfreude is delicious.

  27. dover_beach

    Back to Morrison’s cowardice yesterday. Why wouldn’t you want to give this any more oxygen as a politician? This is precisely the sort of issue and conflagration that you would want to exploit to its full potential given the issues it raises and the opportunities it presents given the public support it is receiving in spite of the virtual media wall of abuse and corporate sabotage.

  28. mh

    Over 500k

    I wonder if the ABC will be fact checking those donation numbers. They will be furious.

  29. cohenite

    Half a million to Izzy. The left are so stupid. They could have just ignored the big guy but they are such arrogant bastards they assume they can’t be wrong.

  30. The Countess

    Still waiting for my refund so I can double it and forward it to the ACL. It wasn’t much and double not-much is still not much but every dollar is another nail in the coffin of political correctness. That particular coffin might need a LOT of nails though.

  31. None

    Haha Cassie I am so pleased The Daily Telegraph is eating s***. Putting Israel next to that Canadian preacher is also misleading. He was actually a street preacher that walked around a gay pride parade saying that he was coming out as a Christian etc etc and basically saying Jesus loves you and then he was surrounded by a baying mob and got arrested. Hardly hate speech. The law in Canada is also completely different. Not so long ago Tim was champion in his friends like Mark Stein who campaigned long and hard to get that odious section 11 overturned which it was under Harper only to have absolutely totalitarian speech laws implemented by Trudeau who is only prime minister because of the clerk in their electoral system much like Buvky Beaber in New Zealand.
    Noticed the photos that they’ve put up to make them look like to angry young men. I’ve noticed Tim Blair is back and looks like he’s in Damage Control. But I’ve already said hasta la vista to him too. Said that not even the blogs are worth looking at on Murdoch sites now. Don’t be surprised if they ring you in a few months and ask you to reconsider. But they only understand money so well money talks and it’s not talking to the press.

  32. Leigh Lowe

    3:30 am $20k
    6:00 am $24k
    7:00 am $70k … ($46 k raised in the previous hour)
    8:00 am $167k … ($97 k raised in the previous hour)
    9:00 am $286k … ($119k raised in the previous hour)
    10:00 am $413k … ($127 k raised in the previous hour)
    11:00 am $507 k … ($94 k raised in the previous hour)
    .

    Half a meg!!

  33. Siltstone

    from his self-regarding website “Pepper IT’s founder Ryan Shelley, is a Social Media Expert.”

    The ex-spurt sure don’t know real human beings

  34. Bruce of Newcastle

    Anyone want to buy a used drone?

    Congress Seeks to Make Iran Pay For Downed American Drone

    The measure, filed by Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Texas) late Monday, would require the Trump administration to assess the exact cost of the drone, which could be anywhere from $120 million to $220 million, according to sources familiar with the matter.

    Warning for prospective purchasers: it may need some work.

  35. rickw

    Half a meg!!

    The peasants are rather grumpy this morning!!

  36. Boambee John

    The seagull has passed the tipping point into Bird-like obsession with his psychological “research” into posters at the Cat.

  37. C.L.

    The judge was Nathalie Lieven.
    LifeSiteNews checked her out and guess what …
    UK judge who ordered forced abortion was activist lawyer for abortion industry.
    And when they say activist

    The English judge who ruled that doctors should be allowed to perform an abortion on a disabled woman against her will was a pro-abortion activist lawyer.

    In a searing editorial for First Things entitled “Murder Disguised as Care,” Nigerian pro-life advocate Obianuju “Uju” Ekeocha revealed that Madame Justice Nathalie Lieven, 55, has a long history of supporting Britain’s abortion industry.

    “Nathalie Lieven was appointed a High Court judge in December 2018, and her appointment took effect on January 11, 2019,” Ekeocha wrote.

    “Most reports have failed to highlight that in the last fifteen years Lieven has had a prominent place in the British pro-abortion movement. She has been in the forefront of some of the landmark abortion-related cases in the country.”

    In 2005, Lieven argued in court for an International Planned Parenthood affilitate, the Family Planning Association, that parents, in the words of a Guardian report, “are no longer necessarily the best people to advise a child on contraception, sexually transmitted infections and abortions – and they have no right to know if their children under 16 are seeking treatment.”

    Then in 2011, Lieven represented Britain’s largest abortion business, the British Pregnancy Advisory Service (BPAS), to argue that pregnant women should be allowed to take the second dose of the two-step chemical abortion at home without medical supervision.

    Lieven also fought to have Northern Ireland’s stricter abortion law overturned.

    In other words, she is a total lunatic.

  38. None

    Schadenfreude is indeed delicious Black Ball. And that’s just for breakfast. I wonder what’s for lunch. Countess I threw some money in and when we get our refund I’ll throw that in separately. We’re literally doubling down.

  39. rickw

    Looks like it’s thumping along at roughly $2k a minute!

  40. Bruce of Newcastle

    This is going to choke Rugby Australia, probably sending them bankrupt.

    Get woke go broke.

  41. None

    Oh my god how is that not abuse of a disabled person as well by killing their child against their will on top of killing the child itself.

  42. C.L.

    Do read Ekeocha’s First Things editorial.
    More there on this fanatical judge’s shocking obsession with abortion:
    MURDER DISGUISED AS CARE.

  43. None

    So it was about 760 k when they took it down and at this rate they’ll have that back by lunchtime and this is before all the refunds have been processed or received. Go you good things.

  44. notafan

    You are right DB

    Quoting 1 Corithians 6 9=10 from the New Testament should have been seen for what it is -a simple exercise of freedom of religion and freedom of speech

    the progs made it a storm in a teacup and Morrison could have made a simple statement about freedoms without going into the details of the case between Folau and RA but he didn’t.

    that is the Morrison we have always known

    no Abbott, no spine

  45. Leigh Lowe

    from his self-regarding website “Pepper IT’s founder Ryan Shelley, is a Social Media Expert.”
    The ex-spurt sure don’t know real human beings

    It looks very much like a pissy little outfit.
    They had eight biographies on their website, including two people named Shelley (husband and wife?) and two “junior content developers”.

    Microsoft they ain’t.

  46. notafan

    None

    the decision was overturned by a higher court

    the UK is not a China yet

  47. notafan

    Mr Shelley, founder of digital media agency Pepper IT, said the reaction to Folau’s crowdfunding campaign had been significant because it contrasted with the “Aussie battler spirit

    What will “Mr Shelley Social Media Expert’ say about the ACL fund raiser I wonder?

    My guess

    nothing

  48. notafan

    When will Monty Ponty come out to play?

  49. Boambee John

    dover_beach
    #3052737, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:59 am
    Back to Morrison’s cowardice yesterday. Why wouldn’t you want to give this any more oxygen as a politician? This is precisely the sort of issue and conflagration that you would want to exploit to its full potential given the issues it raises and the opportunities it presents given the public support it is receiving in spite of the virtual media wall of abuse and corporate sabotage

    There was a comment over on the Morrison thread suggesting that the comment was actually made back before the election.

    He shouldn’t have said it then either, but if it is an old comment, it seems that someone (media??) is mischief making.

  50. Diogenes

    So it was about 760 k when they took it down

    I wonder how long before {name of bank} closes the ACL account down, and none of the other banks will allow them to open an account and/or Visa & mastercard will block CC payments to the account.

  51. Mother Lode

    Oh.

    Comment in moderation.

    I have to assume the offending word was ‘contumelio_s’.

  52. rickw

    I wonder how long before {name of bank} closes the ACL account down, and none of the other banks will allow them to open an account and/or Visa & mastercard will block CC payments to the account.

    Waiting for that.

    The only option they want Izzy to have is driving down the road sitting in the back of a Ute with people handing him their hard earned pineapples.

    Cashless society will fix this, then they will have complete control.

  53. stackja

    Socrates at the Pub
    #3051135, posted on June 24, 2019 at 10:20 am
    When it went down, Izzy’s gofundme was at $765,000 (exactly)
    from 10,319 people.

    ACL $529,142.00 raised

  54. Leigh Lowe

    I wonder how long before {name of bank} closes the ACL account down, and none of the other banks will allow them to open an account and/or Visa & mastercard will block CC payments to the account.

    Do it.
    I reckon hundreds of millions in super would be gone overnight, and the streets would be littered with chopped up credit cards.
    If … and it is a big if … these corporations have learnt anything over the last few days, it is that the anger runs deep on this one, and people are willing to go hard against corporates who try to stymie this.

  55. Dodgy knees is correct.
    Next is a banking boycott.
    Then they will ban the trailer loads of cash that get dropped off at Izzy’s place.
    Then they will just give up and gaol him.

  56. Roger

    There was a comment over on the Morrison thread suggesting that the comment was actually made back before the election.

    The original report was dated 12th April.

    Since then Morrison has spoken about religious freedom but has tempered those remarks with ill informed (in this particular instance) comments about contract law which would seem to have been fed to him by dim bulb Christian Porter.

  57. None

    Diogenes they are putting it in a lawyers trust account which is what I had suggested from the get-go. Lawyers basically lose their licence if they do anything untoward with their trust account and no Bank would dare try shutdown a lawyer’s trust account without government authorities requesting it for some extremely serious reason and there’s sweet fa of that happening unless they want a civil war. I can tell you that other legal defence funds are run through lawyers trust account usually lawyers who are not directly involved with the actual case itself) and you can get a receipt directly from the lawyer for any donation you make.

  58. feelthebern

    is a Social Media Expert.”

    Means they have a twitter account.

  59. Leigh Lowe

    I wonder how long before {name of bank} closes the ACL account down, and none of the other banks will allow them to open an account and/or Visa & mastercard will block CC payments to the account.

    I wouldn’t mind betting that ACL and Izzy’s lawyers have already fired shots over the bank’s and credit card providers bows, specifically over leaking details of the account and shutting down what is an account which is perfectly legal.

  60. is a Social Media Expert.”

    > Means they have a twitter account.
    Means they troll the cat.

  61. None

    This is good because you can bet your bottom dollar that if he tried to sell any assets he would never get market price for them full stop as that Brienne article at Quadrant says lefties are now or out to destroy Izzy. the show of support is more important than money so even ringing up radio stations or planting comments in the media saying that you support him is a good thing. Money just talk louder that’s all.

  62. stackja

    Roger
    #3052784, posted on June 25, 2019 at 11:20 am
    Christian Porter

    Or

    Secretary—Attorney-General’s Department
    Mr Chris Moraitis PSM is Secretary of the Attorney-General’s Department, a position he has held since September 2014.

  63. None

    Remember people that are deranged gay activist Bond actually bombed ACL headquarters. They can’t advertise who is on the board because of serious death threats. I don’t think even the AFP will tolerate lefty fuckers approaching ACL.

  64. feelthebern

    What happened to the chap that bombed the ACL?
    When the Tony Abbott stabber back before the beak?

  65. Roger

    stacks,

    Morrison’s comments mirror those of Christian Porter.

    They’re both going to be shown up for the mediocrities they are if and when this gets before a real court.

    Morrison, as usual, is talking out of both sides of his mouth, a talent he has built his political career on, but precisely not the sort of leadership the nation needs on this.

  66. feelthebern

    The LNP dreams of raising funds in a year, the way Izzy has done before lunchtime.

  67. feelthebern

    Can someone watch the Skynews thing tonight & then edit it so all the shit eating bed wetter comments pre election are spliced into a 5min highlight reel?

  68. feelthebern

    PS, 6 months until Christmas.

  69. I don’t think even the AFP will tolerate lefty fuckers approaching ACL.

    I would be more worried being approached by the AFP than lefty mob.

    One is full of nasty, destructive types, the other is a mob.

  70. None

    I think the ACL bomber went into psychiatric care I need to check but the media certainly did not want to publicize that too much not to mention that he was a self-proclaimed gay activist. ACL people may have been concerned about their own safety as well if they went too hard on the issue. I think Tony Abbott headbutter went to jail – he already had a record.

  71. Rafe Champion

    What None said. show of support is more important than money so even ringing up radio stations or planting comments in the media saying that you support him is a good thing.

    Please put efforts into other sites as well as this one for maximum effect.

    To delay the hassle of cancelling subs you can ring up and say you are going to cancel if they don’t support freedom of faith and speech. You can ask the person on the phone if they know what is going on, you might manage to educate someone!

    I will contact the Continuous Call Team. I will be devastated if The Big Marn is bagging Izzie.

  72. Roger

    I think the ACL bomber went into psychiatric care…

    Didn’t he die as a result of his injuries?

  73. stackja

    Roger
    #3052798, posted on June 25, 2019 at 11:29 am

    Disappointments!

  74. Speedbox

    Have just made a donation that was double my previous donation on gofundme.

    …..it is that the anger runs deep on this one, and people are willing to go hard against corporates who try to stymie this.

    Damn straight.

  75. EvilElvis

    Why, then, do so many homosexuals evidently lack psychological resilience when homosexuality has been decriminalised, normalised and is now, indeed, celebrated?

    That always gets me to. Why aren’t they more resilient and have the courage of their convictions like, well, like Christians?

  76. Andreas

    The ACL bomber committed suicide before the trial if I recall correctly.

  77. None

    Word, Roger. I’ve always thought Christian Porter was over rated too. Whatever you believe you just need to thank Izzy for exposing all the dreck in our chattering class. If the left gets really dirty I hope Izzy pulls out the race card ( it wouldn’t be too wrong because most of his chattering class detractors are old white people). Blackbirding 2019 sounds like a good strategy.

  78. It's Remarkable

    Am I out of moderation yet?

  79. None

    Rodger, Andreas I really need to look it up but he certainly had psychiatric issues.

  80. Mother Lode

    The seagull has passed the tipping point into Bird-like obsession with his psychological “research” into posters at the Cat.

    The Numberwang Cur is trying his hand at research?

    Bwahahahahaaa!

    I suspect there is a small clutch of uni students in courses like Critical Lesbian Blob-ism Theory on their way to a career as filing clerks for the public service who look back fondly on those halcyon days of anger and hatred in his classes.

    But in most case it will be a case where a few alumni of Numbers’ wackademia meet up over a beer and someone mentions a trip to Asia or how many of McDonalds’ staff are cute foreign women, there will be a round of impersonations followed by uproarious laughter, and then the conversation will move on.

    What a legacy!

  81. “Andreas
    #3052812, posted on June 25, 2019 at 11:38 am
    The ACL bomber committed suicide before the trial if I recall correctly.”

    Yes.

  82. stackja

    Man accused of Australian Christian Lobby explosion found dead
    THE body of Jaden Duong, accused of attempting to blow up four 9kg gas tanks in a van outside the Australian Christian Lobby, was found on Sunday.

    Sarah Crawford, The Daily Telegraph
    September 25, 2017 10:28am

    A GAY rights supporter accused of causing an explosion outside the Australian Christian Lobby in Canberra has been found dead.

    Jaden Duong, 36, was found dead on Sunday afternoon.

    ACT Policing have released a statement saying, “About 4.30pm yesterday (24 September 2017) ACT Policing attended the death of 36-year-old male.

    Duong described himself as a business consultant on his LinkedIn profile and lived in San Francisco for several years where he volunteered to gay rights politician David Chiu and Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf.

    LIFELINE: 13 11 14

  83. feelthebern

    Just wait until all the rich, oldies in WA hear about this.
    After their metamucil, they’ll be donating big time.

  84. Ubique

    Mascot Towers now sinking.

    When architects, builders, superintendents and government inspectors are preoccupied with woke matters, things go wrong.

  85. Roger

    Disappointments!

    Morrison’s mealy mouthed mediocrity looked like ordinary blokeness when viewed against the foil of Shorten’s character in the election campaign.

    Now we’re seeing it for what it is.

    I’ll gladly revise my opinion if he steps up to the plate.

  86. thefrollickingmole

    Ive had an road to Damascus moment.

    Our feral weirdo left havent gotten worse, they have just forgotten how vile much of whats “normal” in their circles is vile to a lot of other people.

    Heres a article from an old academic feminist, ticks all the right boxes including being trained to give “underground” abortions back in the day as normal people do.

    Has the predictable “i was Paped” monologue, but its fascinating to see how the victim totem pole worked even back then.

    https://quillette.com/2019/06/20/how-a-feminist-prophet-became-an-apostate-an-interview-with-dr-phyllis-chesler/

    One shocking episode that Chesler details in her memoir highlights this with particular clarity. In 1979, Chesler was Paped by her then-employer, Davidson Nicol—a senior official at the United Nations and dignitary from Sierra Leone. She tells me that this Pape proved to be less traumatic than the subsequent behaviour of her fellow feminists. When Chesler disclosed what had happened to Robin Morgan and Gloria Steinem—some of the most powerful women in the movement at the time—they refused to support her in confronting her attacker. Chesler writes that Morgan told her that it would “look bad for feminism” for a “white feminist to charge a black man with Pape and sexual harassment,” and that Steinem backed up this decision. Even Andrea Dworkin failed to stand up for her, telling Chesler that in her opinion “accusing a black man would make feminists look like racists.” This, despite the fact that several women of colour were supportive of Chesler’s desire to confront Nicol, particularly given that he was well known to be predatory.

    But the lady is a complete fruitcake, severely educated to this point..

    In contrast, Chesler has been strongly critical of Islam and has written a number of books on the abuse of women in Muslim-majority countries. This is partly influenced by her own experiences, detailed in her book An American Bride in Kabul. Aged 20, Chesler married a fellow student and travelled with him back to his native country of Afghanistan. On arrival in Kabul her passport was removed and she spent five months effectively imprisoned in her husband’s family home. There she witnessed what she describes as gender apartheid: “polygamy, purdah, women in burqas who were forced to sit at the back of the bus, arranged first-cousin marriages, child brides, honor killings.” Chesler has no compunction in calling such practices “barbaric.” She almost died of dysentery before eventually being allowed to return home, pregnant and weighing only 90 pounds. She had an illegal abortion.

    ..
    She also bells the cat on what most people know, letting mad women decide whats “normal sexuality” isnt a great recipe for success.

    One chapter of Politically Incorrect Feminist deals with a particularly painful truth that Chesler has not previously written about: the high rates of mental illness among Second Wave feminists. Having written so critically of the tendency of doctors to pathologise female emotion, Chesler knows full well that such claims should not be thrown around lightly. When she writes of the madness of some of her fellow feminists, she knows what she’s talking about: “I don’t mean neurotic, difficult, anxious, or eccentric. I mean clinically schizophrenic or manic depressive, suicidal, addicted to drugs or alcohol, or afflicted with a personality disorder.

  87. feelthebern

    If the LNP come asking for money, tell them “hasn’t the LNP used up enough oxygen already”?

  88. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m amused that Nein-Fairfax in their 11:30am news eventually got to the biggest story of the day only after doing all the house fires. They reported the ACL-Folau story briefly without mention of the massive amounts raised.

    By contrast both Seven and Ten led their news with the story.

    Great to see the Fairfax merger working just so smashingly.

  89. C.L.

    Yikes. This lady needs help.
    Trump’s latest accuser loses Anderson Cooper …

  90. thefrollickingmole

    Spamminator on steroids again…

    RTWT

    https://quillette.com/2019/06/20/how-a-feminist-prophet-became-an-apostate-an-interview-with-dr-phyllis-chesler/

    One shocking episode that Chesler details in her memoir highlights this with particular clarity. In 1979, Chesler was Paped by her then-employer, Davidson Nicol—a senior official at the United Nations and dignitary from Sierra Leone. She tells me that this Pape proved to be less traumatic than the subsequent behaviour of her fellow feminists. When Chesler disclosed what had happened to Robin Morgan and Gloria Steinem—some of the most powerful women in the movement at the time—they refused to support her in confronting her attacker. Chesler writes that Morgan told her that it would “look bad for feminism” for a “white feminist to charge a black man with Pape and sexual harassment,” and that Steinem backed up this decision. Even Andrea Dworkin failed to stand up for her, telling Chesler that in her opinion “accusing a black man would make feminists look like racists.” This, despite the fact that several women of colour were supportive of Chesler’s desire to confront Nicol, particularly given that he was well known to be predatory.

  91. stackja

    Ubique
    #3052821, posted on June 25, 2019 at 11:41 am

    The Bible spoke of the wise and unwise builder.
    Of course wokes don’t know their Bible.

  92. Leigh Lowe

    To delay the hassle of cancelling subs you can ring up and say you are going to cancel if they don’t support freedom of faith and speech. You can ask the person on the phone if they know what is going on, you might manage to educate someone!

    Yes, and let them do the talking.
    I rang Channel 10 to complain when that bint Yumi Stynes made that disgusting comment about Ben Roberts-Smith VC.
    Me : “Do you know why I am calling?”
    Phone girl (in resigned tone) : “I think so …”
    Me : “Well, what do you think it is?’
    Phone girl : “Is it about what Yumi Stynes said?”
    Me : “Yes. Why do you think I am annoyed about that?”
    Phone girl : “Because you think it is insulting?”
    Me : “and defamatory. Make sure you record this and pass it. Not the first time you’ve heard that this morning, is it?”

    Phone girl : “No. Been flat out.”

    Me : “Good. I am ringing all the advertisers next.”

    .
    Make them say the words out loud.

  93. notafan

    That always gets me to. Why aren’t they more resilient and have the courage of their convictions like, well, like Christians?

    Because their lifestyles are deranged, they cannot related to either man or women in a normal way and everything is seen though warped glasses.

    They need our prayers more than anything

    It is a terrible burden to carry, not a life anyone could wish for, despite what the shallow and brittle pretend.

  94. None

    Why, then, do so many homosexuals evidently lack psychological resilience when homosexuality has been decriminalised, normalised and is now, indeed, celebrated?

    You need to go to spiked online and read everything that Brendan O’Neill has written about gay activism in the last five six seven years. O’Neill is an atheist and she is also pro gay rights but he’s been auntie gay marriage and gay activism as it manifests itself today because it infantilizes people and has the most Liberal and authoritarian streak. I haven’t looked lately but I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually writes about the Izzy Folau case. He was the guy who brilliantly slapped down Tanya Plibersek on qanda over free speech. He is my favourite Marxist a line which I think even Bolt stole from my Twitter ( I say that because I know that is why I used to read my Twitter feed).

    The left treats guys like it treats every other identity group based on race gender or class namely as infants who need protection. This is why they get really uppity in the states when African Americans leave the plantation and back Trump. This is why they hate indigenous Aussies here who run energy corporations and want to build power stations run by coal. This is why they hate gay conservatives. They need everyone in their designated identity groups to be facile, docile, infantile, and totally dependent on them. It’s all a Charade.

  95. Knuckle Dragger

    I never thought I’d be as amused so soon after May 18.

    Mrs Pirate apparently had a go at the ACL head on her ‘show’ this morning. Waited until the end, thgen asked the guy if he believed homos are hell-bound.

    The reply: ‘We all go to hell.’

    Cut to commercial.

  96. None

    *the most illiberal and authoritarian Streak

    My phone keeps changing illiberal to Liberal. Maybe it knows something.

  97. Leigh Lowe

    The icing on the cake would be if a couple of Wallabies came out today and said they were lodging bullying complaints against Cheika and the Vicar over being forced to publicly slag off Folau.

  98. Roger

    Word, Roger. I’ve always thought Christian Porter was over rated too.

    Whenever I see him pictured in the halls of Parliament House he’s usually carrying a couple of weighty legal tomes in his arms, LOL.

    They’re merely a prop to give him a gravitas he lacks.

  99. Boambee John

    Motger Lode at 1140

    Seagull’s “research” on Cat posters is on the last page of the old thread. It is worth a look to assess the decline of someone who apparently was once reasonably intelligent. He is become Bird like with his various obsessions, but the psychological “profiling” of posters here is becoming disturbing.

  100. notafan

    ‘Low-set and basically new construction has a grey cloud over it – low quality, toxins, bad ventilation and very low-quality imported materials used.

    Anyone who buys into new housing, any sort of high destinity, even townhouses, especially if the workers are short term visas holders should be very buyer bewaring

    The lot behind me had problems from the get go and 18 of the dog boxes failed to sell off the plan yet they went ahead (build over a creek too)

  101. feelthebern

    People who soon will be spending more time with the family.

    https://australia.rugby/about/about-us/board

  102. Heading to wards the middle of another week and still no word from the appeals court.
    Are they waiting for a big World Cup match to keep them out of the news?

  103. None

    So they let a guy who bombed a place and who was clearly mentally disturbed alone so that he could commit suicide. And then these m************ want to lecture us about gay suicide. mmmkay.

  104. dover_beach

    From CL’s link to the First Things article above:

    In 2005 Lieven represented the Family Planning Association (FPA), the U.K. member association of the International Planned Parenthood Federation, in a case where she argued fervently against the need for parents to consent to giving abortion or contraception advice to children under sixteen. Lieven argued that parents are no longer the best people to advise children on contraception, sexually transmitted infections, and abortions, and that they have no right to know if their children under age sixteen are seeking treatment.

    This is Liberalism. The ‘autonomy’ of the child must be preserved even where it is at odds with the parents. The liberal state is quite happy to intervene in such cases; it relishes the thought of any such expansion of its power and putative authority.

  105. C.L.

    LOL.
    Peter FitzSimons on Twitter has spent the morning encouraging people to donate money to a genuine Christian: FR BOB.

  106. Knuckle Dragger

    As some others have commented, at least Bird was high energy.

    Four Leaf/Hawkeye’s battery is denifitely going flat.

  107. feelthebern

    Seagull’s “research” on Cat posters is on the last page of the old thread.

    Who cares about what he posts here.
    But, I am concerned how he said he was going to use the “research” in his PhD.
    I view that as a clumsy threat to dox Cats.

  108. dover_beach

    Same link:

    As lead counsel for NIHRC, Lieven argued that the laws protecting the unborn breached entitlements to privacy and rights to freedom from torture, inhuman and degrading treatment, and discrimination under the European Convention on Human Rights.

    Quite amazing how none of these entitlements apply to the child in utero, the most vulnerable human being in these instances, even to the mouthpieces and consciences-for-hire of the human rights industry.

  109. feelthebern

    Did Bob from Gosford meet the threshold to get taxpayer AEC dosh?

  110. Leigh Lowe

    Duong described himself as a business consultant on his LinkedIn profile and lived in San Francisco for several years where he volunteered to gay rights politician David Chiu and Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf.

    Duong had to do voluntary work because I think his partner got a posting in his job with Foreign Affairies, and Duong had no greencard.
    It seems he split with the boyfriend (as they do) and went off his trolley (as they also do).
    I think it was Des Deskperson who speculated that the Foreign Affairies boyfriend must have been at a reasonably senior level, and maybe he was trying to keep the lid on publication of Duong’s antics.

  111. Boambee John

    Bern at 1154

    Indeed.

  112. C.L.

    FitzSimons re-Tweets:

    Louise [email protected]

    Why are people who supposedly espouse a message of “love one another as I have loved you” so desperate to have right to disparage gay people? Free speech is one thing, but what is with all of this demanding right to be hurtful? #qanda

    Be careful, Israel. Somebody might start a ‘trawling’ operation about your past.

  113. Infidel Tiger

    Imagine Fitz and Monty both giving you advice.

    The two most powerful reverse indicators on earth.

  114. None

    I’m really glad they sent the message out that they are considering suing go fund me and have just put that aside for now and I’m also glad that the latest Izzy statement specifically mentioned the attacks on Maria Folau. God I really hope they start serving notices of defamation against Maria who is a total sweetie and really popular here and I really hope Liz Ellis gets served first. She’s such a f****** loudmouth she will dig her own grave. And it’s about bloody time too.

  115. notafan

    Did Bob from Gosford meet the threshold to get taxpayer AEC dosh?

    3000 odd votes only iirc

  116. Beertruk

    Did Bob from Gosford meet the threshold to get taxpayer AEC dosh?

    I would be PMSL if he if he fell short.

  117. stackja

    noon $577,626.38 raised

  118. Leigh Lowe

    3:30 am $20k
    6:00 am $24k
    7:00 am $70k … ($46 k raised in the previous hour)
    8:00 am $167k … ($97 k raised in the previous hour)
    9:00 am $286k … ($119k raised in the previous hour)
    10:00 am $413k … ($127 k raised in the previous hour)
    11:00 am $507 k … ($94 k raised in the previous hour)
    12:00 midday $576 k … ($69 k raised in the previous hour)

    .

    I predict it will reach $750k by 6:00 pm, kick up a bit after dinner and reach $900 k late tomorrow (that is without ACL’s $100k)

  119. dover_beach

    PUBLIC FAITH AND THE PEACE CROSS: On Thursday, the Supreme Court handed down its decision in the case American Legion v. American Humanist Association. By a margin of 7-2, the judges determined that a large Roman cross, known as the Peace Cross, could remain on public land and be maintained by the state.

    The cross was erected after World War I by the mothers of fallen American soldiers. Its primary purpose as a memorial to the soldiers, rather than an expression of public Christianity, was a key part of the court’s determination to let it stand. But a cross is a religious symbol, and no other use of it can detract from that. While using a cross to honor the dead passed without question in previous decades, it is, at least to the humanists who demanded its removal, an implicit statement of faith on public land.

    That an organisation would litigate the removal of a memorial erected by the mothers of fallen soldiers is beyond words; “The centre cannot hold”.

  120. Siltstone

    How long before a MSM wombat demands Folau pay tax on “his new income”?

  121. None

    Mulligan is not even worth pigging. Nothing uglier in person and character then a collapsed Catholic. Grotesque doesn’t even begin to describe hags like her. You never know whether you need to call an exorcist or a shrink. Sorry to the other Catholics here. You know that I know that you’re nothing like that Horrid creature.

  122. feelthebern

    Mulligan should lay off the booze.

  123. Dr Faustus

    So, with nearly $550k in donations + ACF’s $100k tip, Folau is presently in roughly the same position as he was yesterday morning. Around $650k is sufficient bikkies to purchase a top shelf legal team to take the dispute with RA through:

    FWA + mediation;
    FWA Full Bench (if accepted);
    Federal Court judicial review;
    High Court preliminaries and application.

    Also sufficient change to deter defamation from talking heads and Champion Rugby Immortals whose own brilliant playing careers have slipped from memory, but nevertheless will not die.

    One particular joy is that Qantas is strapped in for the ride over the next couple of years.

  124. Bruce of Newcastle

    They need our prayers more than anything

    Seconded Nota. God does call all sinners irrespective of our sins. The brave lady professor is amazing.

  125. Infidel Tiger

    This is Australia.

    ACL Website:

    Our Board
    Due to security concerns, this page is temporarily unavailable

  126. dover_beach

    Be careful, Israel. Somebody might start a ‘trawling’ operation about your past.

    That operation is in full swing.

  127. Roger

    Why are people who supposedly espouse a message of “love one another as I have loved you” so desperate to have right to disparage gay people? Free speech is one thing, but what is with all of this demanding right to be hurtful? #qanda

    There’s so much wrong with that one doesn’t know where to start.

    Perhaps with her hurtful disparaging of Christians under the guise of free speech? (sarc)

  128. None

    Siltstone recall that the ATO already issued a warning to Izzy’s church about fundraising- this was way before things ever got to this state. That should also tell you the level of corruption in the ATO because if there was anything that needed to be communicated ( and now I doubt it I read that as pure intimidation and bullying) it would have been communicated directly to the taxpayer in confidence . The public sector in Canberra is choc is full of corrupt Lefty individuals who see public service as free rein for activism and there is a constant stream of leaking between public service and leftist media. We are not talking whistleblowers here we are talking corruption.

  129. None

    Can you imagine if the left is media pulls out some woman Izzy hooked up with when he was a somewhat wild 18 year old? After everything that’s been gracing the front pages for the last year? That should guarantee him not only reinstatement but permanent entry into the rugby Hall of Fame. If only easy had also pissed into his mouth it good to have never come to this. LOL.

  130. Infidel Tiger

    $600k and the people who gave to GoFundMe haven’t even had their dosh returned yet!

  131. None

    OK I’m going to hold my nose and have a quick dip in to Twitter.

  132. Leigh Lowe

    Imagine Fitz and Monty both giving you advice.

    I read somewhere yesterday of Fitz’s three great recent wrongologies:-
    1. Gladys can either knock over the stadium or win the election. She can’t do both.
    2. Alan Jones is a goner from 2GB;
    3. Bill Shorten to win like Wynx. More than 80 seats in a canter.

  133. Buccaneer

    I see the anti Folau gfm pages have slightly more traffic than numberwang’s weblog. One might say birds of a feather, except no one flocks to numberwangs weblog…

  134. Infidel Tiger

    Trump’s “rape” accuser is absolutely pie eyed in that interview with Cooper.

  135. Mother Lode

    Seagull’s “research” on Cat posters is on the last page of the old thread.

    Never read his stuff – and I feel cleaner for it.

    Well, I read what you guys mention so it is at one remove.

    And still feel clean.

  136. notafan

    Another great story

    Visit a street fair in San Francisco’s Castro district and you’re likely to meet Joseph Sciambra, 45, wearing a “Jesus loves you” t-shirt and handing out copies of his book, Swallowed by Satan. It tells the story of how, as a boy growing up in a lax Catholic family in Napa, California, he became addicted to pornography. Sexually confused at age 18, Sciambra made his way to the Castro, a “gay mecca,” and immersed himself in the gay lifestyle for 11 years. He lived it to the extreme, even acting in gay porn. But rather than the happiness, acceptance, and fulfillment he sought, he found a life of misery.

    From SF’s “Gay Mecca” to Healing in Christ

  137. mh

    A couple of months old but still worth a look

    8 things you need to know about the Israel Folau farce

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y2RUZHVlJXI

  138. woolfe

    We have a minister for sport, some Senator Richard Colbeck snoozing in a leather armchair somewhere. Wonder if he has heard of Rugby? Though i’m sure he is a member of the Chairpersons lounge and will be flown 1st class to the World cup in Japan latter this year.

  139. Leigh Lowe

    Siltstone recall that the ATO already issued a warning to Izzy’s church about fundraising- this was way before things ever got to this state.

    Remain calm London Lee.
    The ACL appeal for Easy Flower has nought to do with his church and it clearly states that contributions are not tax deductible before you push the button.
    It has precisely zero to do with the ATO.

  140. Leigh Lowe

    Buccaneer
    #3052882, posted on June 25, 2019 at 12:16 pm
    I see the anti Folau gfm pages have slightly more traffic than numberwang’s weblog. One might say birds of a feather, except no one flocks to numberwangs weblog…

    The main street of Chernobyl in 1987 had more traffic than Spud’s website.

  141. C.L.

    Be careful, Israel. Somebody might start a ‘trawling’ operation about your past.
    ———

    That operation is in full swing.

    Graham Ashton currently searching for drug-addicts who used to be ball-boys.

  142. Infidel Tiger

    Imagine if you will this scenario:

    April 2019 Israel Folau posts some bible scripture on his personal Instagram page.

    Everyone either reads or ignores it, believing those are his private views and no one else’s business.

    Nothing more happens.

  143. Mother Lode

    Why are people who supposedly espouse a message of “love one another as I have loved you” so desperate to have right to disparage gay people? Free speech is one thing, but what is with all of this demanding right to be hurtful? #qanda

    I always derive a sense of mirth from watching people who are so totally convinced of their knowledge and intelligence make a goose of themselves by accidentally showing their ignorance just when they think they are showing their brilliance.

    And you just know that if someone tried to explain where they are wrong they would try to wrap the issue up in layers of sophistry woven from more ignorance to ‘show’ that they are actually, technically, right.

    They will not, and cannot, admit that they don’t know something because their self-image is so entwined with self-conceit, and that they must be intelligent if they never admit to error – also a very childish image as to what intelligence looks like.

  144. Mother Lode

    it is, at least to the humanists who demanded its removal, an implicit statement of faith on public land.

    That an organisation would litigate the removal of a memorial erected by the mothers of fallen soldiers is beyond words; “The centre cannot hold”.

    The ones calling themselves humanists are in fact simply bent on another doctrine.

  145. “Infidel Tiger
    #3052894, posted on June 25, 2019 at 12:23 pm
    Imagine if you will this scenario:

    April 2019 Israel Folau posts some bible scripture on his personal Instagram page.

    Everyone either reads or ignores it, believing those are his private views and no one else’s business.

    Nothing more happens.”

    I was just thinking the same thing.

  146. Leigh Lowe

    Imagine if you will this scenario:
    April 2019 Israel Folau posts some bible scripture on his personal Instagram page.
    Everyone either reads or ignores it, believing those are his private views and no one else’s business.
    Nothing more happens.

    Well that is 7/8 of what happened.
    Of those side-swiped by Issy, the drunks, idolators, adulterers, fornicators, liars, atheists and thieves let it go.
    It was only the homos who got all umbraged about it.

  147. HP

    So GoFundMe has managed to drive people and donations towards the ACL in record numbers.

    Brilliantly played – a classic “smoking eyebrows moment” for the angrily seething left.

  148. None

    I read some of Joseph Sciambra, nota. Some very powerful and moving stuff.

  149. but the psychological “profiling” of posters here is becoming disturbing.

    Given that I get “profiled” daily (with a variety of contradictory diagnoses), that’s a bit rich.
    Just in case anyone missed my post on the old thread –
    From yesterday –

    #3051366, posted on June 24, 2019 at 12:31 pm
    As a service to Catallaxy subscribers, I’m taking William Todd Schultz’ research into Conservatism and mental illness and using a very simple scale to rank responses.
    The technique is to take a random page of responses to the open thread and allocate one point for each of the variables detected. The personal score will be calculated, and the poster with the highest number of indicators will be declared the day’s winner.
    At the end of the day, the lucky winner will be announced.

    The results are in.
    Mother Lode is the winner, from Thefrolikingmoll second, and None third.
    They win the Conservatism/Mental Illness poll for yesterday.
    Funny thing is, the usual suspects (Knuckle Dragger ad Cassie of Sydney) missed the cut.
    Their posts are replete with abuse, but lack substance, so the indicators aren’t identifiable.
    It was fun.

  150. None

    Easy has got the makings of a blockbuster book at the end of this. And if he’s smart he’d have somebody taking notes and recording interviews and events as they are the fold. Oh hell yeah he can build an entire second career out of this.

  151. Why are people who supposedly espouse a message of “love one another as I have loved you” so desperate to have the right to disparage gay people? Free speech is one thing, but what is with all of this demanding the right to be hurtful? #qanda

    That’s a question.

    I always derive a sense of mirth from watching people who are so totally convinced of their knowledge and intelligence make a goose of themselves by accidentally showing their ignorance just when they think they are showing their brilliance.

    That’s not an answer.

    Answer the question.

  152. C.L.

    Ahahahahaha.
    Trump responds to latest wacko rape accuser:

    “I’ll say it with great respect: Number one, she’s not my type. Number two, it never happened. It never happened, OK?”

  153. Infidel Tiger

    @GrayConnolly

    Drew Mitchell shaping now as Young Fitz

    Best sledge I’ve seen in some time.

  154. mh

    9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

    Does Scott Morrison not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?

  155. Leigh Lowe

    Dr Faustus
    #3052867, posted on June 25, 2019 at 12:05 pm
    So, with nearly $550k in donations + ACF’s $100k tip, Folau is presently in roughly the same position as he was yesterday morning. Around $650k is sufficient bikkies to purchase a top shelf legal team to take the dispute with RA through:
    FWA + mediation;
    FWA Full Bench (if accepted);
    Federal Court judicial review;
    High Court preliminaries and application.
    Also sufficient change to deter defamation from talking heads and Champion Rugby Immortals whose own brilliant playing careers have slipped from memory, but nevertheless will not die.

    I did notice a distinct change in tone this morning, both in the papers and on TV.
    Example:- The Sky News newsreader this morning described his post as “supposed and perceived homophobic post”.
    Yesterday they were out and out calling him a one man homo lynch mob.

    It looks to me like some in-house lawyers have issued a few “do’s and do not’s” overnight.

  156. Bruce of Newcastle

    Another great story

    Nota – That’s tough. Poor guy, he’s gone through the depths and emerged, like in Ps 22.

  157. Richie McCaw’s comment on Israel Folau –

    “Uzrael needs to pul hus haed un,” said the retired rugby great. “Heez beena duickhaed.”

    From the Betoota Advocate.

  158. C.L.

    Just up at The Australian … ANZ goes after the black woman:

    Sponsor puts heat on Maria
    Netball NZ clears Maria Folau of breaching the team’s policies, as ANZ express their concerns to the organisation.

  159. EvilElvis

    How long before a MSM wombat demands Folau pay tax on “his new income”?

    Was raised a few days ago from the cesspit.

  160. feelthebern

    Of those side-swiped by Issy, the drunks, idolators, adulterers, fornicators, liars, atheists and thieves let it go.

    I’ve been accused of all.
    Apart from thieving, I have to admit I’ve done the lot.

  161. johanna

    Leigh Lowe, TheirABC’s lawyers have apparently told them that it is such a dicey story that they should pretend it’s not happening.

    Not a peep on ABC Online, the top two stories are about weather forecasting and how farmers are saving da environment by selling their water rights in ways that discourage cotton growing.

    Nuffink to see here, apparently.

  162. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “I’ll say it with great respect: Number one, she’s not my type. Number two, it never happened. It never happened, OK?”

    she? it has the sex appeal of neo star trek android

  163. feelthebern

    Is it stealing when Dan Murphies incorrectly prices booze & you exploit the situation?

  164. C.L.

    I hadn’t heard of him but Joseph Sciambra has the makings of a saint.
    Good on him.

  165. feelthebern

    it has the sex appeal of neo star trek android

    Now you’re talkin’ !

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    Imagine if you will this scenario:
    April 2019 Israel Folau posts some bible scripture on his personal Instagram page.
    Everyone either reads or ignores it, believing those are his private views and no one else’s business. Nothing more happens.

    About now Castle and Joyce may be wishing they had a time machine.

  167. None

    Numbers needs to catch up with a 21st century and read Schweder, Haidt, Joseph, Graham etc etc and you will find the perfect explanation of his one track Mind but you know, he’s still stuck in the nineteen eighties public sector and his family still ignores him.

  168. dover_beach

    Netball NZ clears Maria Folau of breaching the team’s policies, as ANZ express their concerns to the organisation.

    ANZ definitely is ‘woke’. Their overt support for gay ‘marriage’ during the plebiscite, GayTMs during pride month here, etc. is really giving me the shits. This latest entry may be the last straw. The only thing stopping me from going elsewhere right now is inertia.

  169. feelthebern

    Joyce couldn’t give a shit.
    He’s in the club.
    He doesn’t have to work every again.
    As soon as he quits QAN, he’ll have his choice of global boards to join.

    Castle on the other hand isn’t yet.
    She’s only on the cusp.
    She’ll have to settle for the Fatty Nixon government appointment somewhere.

  170. feelthebern

    Ever again.
    Not every.

  171. Infidel Tiger

    Is it stealing when Dan Murphies incorrectly prices booze & you exploit the situation?

    Corporates are immoral.

    It is not possible to steal from them.

  172. C.L.

    A livid ABC Online finds various “experts” (in its left-wing rebuttal rolodex) who suddenly say it’s time crowd-funding sites that help out people like Israel Folau are dealt with by the authorities. The Law Council of Australia president wants this new fund shut policed. Get a load of this moron’s logic:

    Law Council of Australia president Arthur Moses told the ABC Australia needs a nationwide review of ethical guidance and rules regarding crowdfunding for litigation.

    “If a client were to make a representation that a particular case will secure certain freedoms, when in truth it’s all about is a contractual dispute over money, it puts a lawyer in a position where I think they would have to cease to act,” he said.

    “You cannot have funds being raised from members of the public which would then go the lawyer based on a false premise.”

  173. None

    Yes I noticed that the press were really hammering netball New Zealand last night and given Netball SA netball Australia win kind of badge. As if it is any of their f****** business full stop and note how they present all this. Maria is “cleared ” as in cleared of what? accused of what? by whom? In which Court? You know I may have been annoyed about what’s happened to easy but I am absolutely livid about the way they’re going after Maria Folau. Livid beyond words and I hope like hell that Izzy serves papers on every motherfuking bastard beginning with Liz Ellis. Disc can’t be easy on them there are newly married couple. I’m just glad that they’re both professional athletes who have a lot of mental toughness and self-discipline because this would have killed off a lot of lesser mortals and believe you me I’ve seen such Mobbs Drive people to suicide.

  174. Leigh Lowe

    Is it stealing when Dan Murphies incorrectly prices booze & you exploit the situation?

    No.
    On election day Mrs L picked up a 1.5 litre bottle of red that had been priced at the 750 ml price.
    It was not stealing, it was divine providence.
    I scoffed the lot whilst chortling at Magna Szubunski’s tears.

  175. None

    Time to write to the motherfuckers at the ANZ. How dare they. How dare they. Every woman should shut their account at the ANZ and every man who is a husband and father should shut his account as well.

  176. Some History

    A pirate and a sailor were exchanging stories. The sailor pointed to the pirate’s peg leg and asked, “How did you get that?”
    The pirate said, “Aye, I wrestled a shark and lost me leg.”
    The sailor pointed to the pirate’s hook and asked, “How did you get that?”
    The pirate said: “Aye, I fought Red Beard’s crew and lost me hand.”
    The sailor pointed to the pirate’s eye patch and asked, “How did you get that?”
    The pirate said, “Aye, a bird came by and left droppings in me eye.”
    The sailor said, “That’s not as impressive as the other two. …”
    “Aye,” the pirate answered. “It was me first day with the hook.”

  177. Buccaneer

    Leigh Lowe

    #3052890, posted on June 25, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    Buccaneer
    #3052882, posted on June 25, 2019 at 12:16 pm
    I see the anti Folau gfm pages have slightly more traffic than numberwang’s weblog. One might say birds of a feather, except no one flocks to numberwangs weblog…

    The main street of Chernobyl in 1987 had more traffic than Spud’s website.

    I also not that numberwang post more here than on his own pathetic site, yet refuses to acknowledge this is a site he visits, Pathetic…

  178. thefrollickingmole

    Our footy chap has hit Instapundit.

    This might get very large indeed.

  179. Westie Woman

    Instapundit has the story up about ACL fundraising for Izzy

  180. feelthebern

    numbers is going to use his “research” as an excuse to dox everyone at the Cat.

  181. Mother Lode

    Is it stealing when Dan Murphies incorrectly prices booze & you exploit the situation?

    Dan’s shits me to tears with their congenital bag ban. They are now no worse than Colesworths, but walking around with a carton for couple of bottles and a beer (because you can’t just carry it in the paper bags without getting cramps in the muscles in your palm – something else Numbers probably has a lot of research materials compiled albeit a different cause) does not really help.

    Now, my local bottle-o is small outfit. Their range is most of it stuff they don’t have at Dan’s, good examples from each price range, and they know all about it, so you can choose by more than the label and the blurb.

    And they have bags so I will go in for one and walk out with a couple carried in one hand.

  182. Some History

    Q: Why did nobody want to play cards with Pete the Poyret?
    A: Because he was standing on the deck.

  183. Infidel Tiger

    Instapundit has linked to the DT paywall.

    Will be as effective as our Wallabies.

  184. feelthebern

    When you walk in the door at Dan Murphies grab an empty box.
    Stronger than any bag.

  185. Infidel Tiger

    He needs to link to the ACL site.

  186. feelthebern

    Izzy needs the Donald to retweet it.

  187. Infidel Tiger

    That an organisation would litigate the removal of a memorial erected by the mothers of fallen soldiers is beyond words; “The centre cannot hold”.

    The “neutral” public square so beloved by TruCons.

  188. Mother Lode

    Our footy chap has hit Instapundit.

    This might get very large indeed.

    The page linked to (the Tele) is paywalled.

    Instead people are looking at nonsense like MSN.

  189. Leigh Lowe

    3:30 am $20k
    6:00 am $24k
    7:00 am $70k … ($46 k raised in the previous hour)
    8:00 am $167k … ($97 k raised in the previous hour)
    9:00 am $286k … ($119k raised in the previous hour)
    10:00 am $413k … ($127 k raised in the previous hour)
    11:00 am $507 k … ($94 k raised in the previous hour)

    12:00 midday $576 k … ($69 k raised in the previous hour)
    1:00 pm $654 k … ($ 78k raised in the previous hour)
    .
    Slight lunch time kick-up.

  190. cuckoo

    Funny how much the latest Trump accuser’s story resembles the alleged (false) Pell incident. ‘Plain vanilla penetration’ between two clothed people in a barely private space that could have been entered at any time by any number of people immediately outside. Although Trump probably wasn’t in full Bishop’s attire at the time.

  191. feelthebern

    As I said before.
    It’s the WA post metamucil bump.

  192. thefrollickingmole

    Reminder, here is the instagram which sparked it all.

    https://www.instagram.com/izzyfolau/p/BwEWt2uHcLI/

    Here is the “hate speech” Izzy added.

    izzyfolau
    Verified
    Those that are living in Sin will end up in Hell unless you repent. Jesus Christ loves you and is giving you time to turn away from your sin and come to him.
    _______________

    Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these , adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
    Galatians 5:19‭-‬21 KJV

  193. Some History

    Q: What do ye call a pirate with two eyes and two legs?

  194. Mother Lode

    When you walk in the door at Dan Murphies grab an empty box.
    Stronger than any bag.

    It is the carrying home with the awkward box shape in your arms.

    Considering the grog comes into Dan’s in full cartons, but it goes back out in partially filled cartons, you would expect them to run out of boxes.

    I wonder if, when they make orders from suppliers, they request and pay for extra empty boxes so they can save on plastic bags.

  195. feelthebern

    ML, you are lucky enough to live within walking distance of a DM’s.
    Cease complaining.
    Some of us have to drive for our drunkening.

  196. Mother Lode

    Q: What do ye call a pirate with two eyes and two legs?

    A tax officer?

  197. feelthebern

    About to hit 666k.

  198. feelthebern

    FFS, sky news saying the terrorists spawn coming home is a good news story.

  199. Some History

    Q: What do ye call a pirate with two eyes and two legs?
    A tax officer?

    That works, too.

  200. feelthebern

    Every penny that went towards bringing terrorists kids home could have been better spent elsewhere.

  201. Leigh Lowe

    Yikes!
    The appeal is at $666k.
    Debil number.

  202. Mother Lode

    ML, you are lucky enough to live within walking distance of a DM’s.
    Cease complaining.
    Some of us have to drive for our drunkening.

    Yeah. I will often get myself a wine and a bottle of spirits the box, then get stopped while walking for discarding an empty box.

  203. Mitch M.

    Why, then, do so many homosexuals evidently lack psychological resilience when homosexuality has been decriminalised, normalised and is now, indeed, celebrated?

    Confected outrage. Modern culture is scripting people to be outraged. At this rate neighbours will be outraged if you don’t hang out the washing in a neat and preferably perfectly symmetrical fashion.

  204. I have $1 that says he will get $1 mill by midnight.

  205. Some History

    Q: What has 8 legs, 8 arms and 8 eyes?

  206. Infidel Tiger

    Donations are motoring in now.

  207. C.L.

    Crikey, Glenn.
    Get rid of the DT link.

  208. Atoms for Peace

    SFA on the ABC radio news about the new fund raising..

  209. C.L.

    The pirate with a hook joke was the best.
    Laughed out loud.

  210. notafan

    The case stems from an act of shoplifting. On November 9, 2016, immediately after the election of President Trump, an Oberlin student, Jonathan Aladin, attempted to shoplift several bottles of wine from Gibson’s. Allyn D. Gibson, the grandson of the store’s owner, was clerking. He noticed the attempted theft and ran after Aladin. An altercation ensued across the street which ended with Aladin and two companions, Cecilia Whettstone and Endia Lawrence, beating Gibson as he lay on the ground.

    How Oberlin Played the Race Card and Lost

  211. None

    If anyone can comment at instapundit they can add the ACL link in their comment and also linked to somr news item that’s not behind a paywall. What I find is if you click through a link that’s posted on a media persons Twitter account you usually can read the entire article at least once ( you might have to clear your cookies afterwards if you want to re access it). So putting a link to a tweet which links to an article is another way to go. Of course you can also put a link to that fabulous post on Quadrant at instapundit.

  212. Knuckle Dragger

    OK, this is now beyond parody.

    Four Leaf/Hawkeye is relying on a never-employed professional uni-hanger-rounderer who magically started collecting tertiary quals at 16 and found a Masters at 24, and who himself is a fanboi of Berkeley’s product.

    Surely, surely the spastic herder couldn’t have quoted the Betoota Advocate as an anti-Folau source?

    As the man said: ‘Inconceivable!’

  213. Mother Lode

    Is it Speak Like a Pirate Day?

  214. Pickles

    Only two Bledisloe Cup games this year, one in Perth. If Perth holds about 50k at an average price of $150 a seat, that’s about $7.5m for the game, plus hot light piss and cold pies.

    Side step the game, give Izzy the spare $200, watch it at the pub with the lads and cheer on the lamb botherers. Just for once.

  215. thefrollickingmole

    None

    Already done.
    Ill post it again.

  216. notafan

    Plainly, Gibson’s Bakery had a problem with Oberlin students shoplifting, but it was a problem that had nothing to do with race. Students at Oberlin generally understood the situation. The student newspaper, the Oberlin Grape, reported in a December 2017 article about Oberlin College’s student “Culture of Theft.” The article reports the insouciance of students towards pilfering local businesses. As one student put it, describing her multiple thefts from Gibson’s: “It wasn’t expensive, and I felt like it…I just preferred not paying for it, but I could have.”

    The privileged students of Oberlin had no problem with systemic theft from Gibson’s.

    I had forgotten about the progressive culture of theft, some justifying it because big bad business, others because they just prefer not to

  217. woolfe

    Pickles the game is sold out. I will be wearing my Western Forces shirt, will sing our national anthem and cheer on the All Blacks.

  218. None

    Nearly at 700k. Go you good things.

  219. Mother Lode

    Supposedly Trump’s supposed raping of that woman, judging by the advanced stage of whatever it is she is suffering from, harks back to when he was a Democrat.

  220. Bruce in WA

    $700k 11.25 am WST

  221. hzhousewife

    Two interactions this morning.

    Had to sign for a parcel delivered by an islander lady of diminutive proportions, right when the tv news was talking about Folau. She whispered to me “what’s happening” so I said the new fundraiser was going gangbusters. She smiled and said, “he only said what our bible said, what’s wrong with that?” I gave her a thumbs up.

    Another conversation with a lady who was indignant because GoFundMe should only be used for sick kids. I let her go on a bit before asking whether she knew that they took 2.9% of every transaction, and that GFM was a private company, began in America, in fact a business earning its way off donated money. She was very taken aback and then my hubby filled her in on a couple of the things we had read this morning upthread about the other kinds of things GFM had supported, nothing to do with “sick kids”. I suggested she investigate GFM a bit more, and finished by reassuring her that the Folau funding had been switched to a Christian based organisation in a Lawyers Trust Fund, and was succeeding beautifully.

  222. Some History

    A crusty, old pirate walks into a bar and orders a drink. The bartender notices a giant ship’s wheel protruding from his belt buckle.
    As the bartender sets down the drink, his curiosity gets the better of him, so he says, “Hey, forgive me for staring, but I couldn’t help but notice that giant ship’s wheel on your crotch. What’s that all about?”

    To which the pirate replies, “Aye matey, ’tis no real mystery you see, but it’s been drivin’ me nuts.”

    Brrrm TISH!

  223. None

    I saw that mole
    Posted the link to Collits https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2019/06/why-israel-folau-must-be-destroyed/

    It is background and a flavour of how the media is in on the Pylon and it’s also not behind a paywall.

  224. None

    That’s brilliant HZhousewife. I reckon that delivery lady would have been so encouraged by your thumbs up too.

  225. Atoms for Peace

    I predict a shortage of crows in Australia given that so many individuals and companies etc are now choking on them.

  226. Mother Lode

    $700k 11.25 am WST

    Bwahahahahaaa!

    That took something like three days at GoFuckYourself. Less than one day after their craven and dishonest surrender, and of the wittering twitterati ‘demanding’ action.

    As Pirate FitzSimian would counsel – listen to what the people are telling you.

  227. Leigh Lowe

    Speaking of theft and Father Bob, we stupidly donated to the prick years ago on the strength of him feeding and clothing the poor in South Melbourne.
    Next thing I see Bob’s food van at the Treasury Gardens fedding the children of the Eastern suburbs doctors wives at Occupy Melbourne.

  228. Some History

    Is it Speak Like a Pirate Day?

    It’s Speak About a Pirate Day. 🙂

  229. Infidel Tiger

    $700k 11.25 am WST

    And the folk who donated the $750k to GFM still haven’t got their original donations back.

    He’ll get $3mn easy.

  230. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3052988, posted on June 25, 2019 at 1:25 pm

    $700k

    Bruce in WA

    #3052989, posted on June 25, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    $700k 11.25 am WST

    I feel like I am watching Bert Newton on the Good Friday telethon.
    I was in the depths of despair this time yesterday but today ….
    HOW GOOD IS ‘STRAYA!!!

  231. Does anyone recall the number of donors at GFM?

  232. C.L.

    Here’s a prediction (and it’s not a bold one): the Folau fund will now kick along into the hefty six figures. There will then be “calls” for the government to intervene, audit the ACL, change the law, confiscate the money, de-register his lawyer, deport his grandmother, poison his children’s goldfish … Something. The rabid left won’t be able to cope unless they can craft a new Folau owned moment. It’s really funny when they get like this. They’re like pent-up drunks on the verge of bashing the Mrs because the Roosters went down against the Rabbitohs.

  233. Eddystone

    Does anyone recall the number of donors at GFM?

    About 10,000 I think.

  234. Bruce

    @ cassie of Sydney:

    “….when you lie down with leftists….what do you wake up with?”

    Count yourself lucky if you wake up at all.

  235. They’re like lefties after the last federal election.
    The peasants voted incorrectly!

  236. notafan

    Speaking of theft and Father Bob, we stupidly donated to the prick years ago on the strength of him feeding and clothing the poor in South Melbourne.

    He got booted from the parish for a very good reason.

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