Tuesday Forum: June 25, 2019

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    Every minute the public are funding another hour of top QC time.

    RA will be getting rather worried.

  2. feelthebern

    According to Westpac, every Arab refugee is a doctor who has to work in a bakery.

  3. Cassie of Sydney

    You know…I have spent the last few years despairing about this country….often thinking I should move. Yesterday when I heard that GoFuckYou had pulled the plug on Izzy I decided that’s it…I’m outa here. I no longer want to live in this woke, fascistic, totalitarian nightmare called Australia where ordinary people are routinely bullied for being Christians, where ordinary people are routinely silenced by elitist leftist scum who have hijacked the media (minus a few exceptions), the arts, academia, private corporations and even the fucking sporting codes, where ordinary people are routinely smeared for questioning excessive immigration or transgenderism or questioning the merits of the religion of pieces, where ordinary people are routinely crucified for the crime of not conforming to the permitted wokethink and wokespeak. We ordinary Australians routinely labelled homophobic, xenophobic, waaaaaacist, misogynistic, islamophobic, petty, small minded, evil and every other name under the sun….we’re even smeared and labelled as “truculent turds” by a vicious mediocre skank (and yes….I use that word deliberately because that’s what she is)……and that same skank then gets rewarded for her insults by by being given an Order of Australia.

    Last night, depressed, I thought to myself that this country and everything in it is one big and very bad joke.

    But this morning, despite waking up with one of my all too regular migraines, I was alerted to the news about the ACL setting up a new fund raising platform for Izzy. I have watched with joy the donations rise from $25,000 to over a million…and you know what…..I feel proud to be Australian. I feel hope. But we can’t rest on our laurels….this is Dunkirk…..there will be many more battles in the future and we need to don our hard hats and we need to fight…because that is what Australians have done today…they have fought back against the fascist storm troopers.

  4. Speedbox

    Speedbox 11:15
    Carpe 07:15 26/6/2019
    None 10:40
    MatrixTransform 10:34

  5. Leigh Lowe

    Yes, Speedbox, I just use that as an illustration of the depth of the resources he has at his disposal.

  6. Tintarella di Luna

    $1.421,323.95

  7. None

    Ellen very interesting take on the Folau case by the Martyn chap – thanks for the video. I only looked up his bio today and apart from having his own IT business I read that he became a lawyer. Anyway he is certainly a lot more impressive than Lyle Shelton whom I could never ever warm to but it was incredibly patient from what I remember of him on Twitter.
    Martin’s initial analysis of the media campaign against easy words excellent. If it wasn’t just the concerted smear campaign emanating from the rugby Australia camp creating this group thing in our media you could almost start imagining our own JournoList ( people who follow us news closely would remember that from the Obama campaign). He did that very well. The really interesting part was his discussion on Izzy’s case. Govrn that he has been involved in similar cases and that he also knows Izzy, I’m going to take his take as a little better informed. You are right I kind of piked out on the last bit even though I agree that the word love is thrown around insl meaningless slogans like Love is Love and no one actually considers what it really means.

  8. Cassie of Sydney

    You know…I have spent the last few years despairing about this country….often thinking I should move. Yesterday when I heard that GFM had pulled the plug on Izzy I decided that’s it…I’m outa here. I no longer want to live in this woke, fascistic, totalitarian nightmare called Australia where ordinary people are routinely bullied for being Christians, where ordinary people are routinely silenced by elitist leftist scum who have hijacked the media (minus a few exceptions), the arts, academia, private corporations and even the frigging sporting codes, where ordinary people are routinely smeared for questioning excessive immigration or transgenderism or questioning the merits of the religion of pieces, where ordinary people are routinely crucified for the crime of not conforming to the permitted wokethink and wokespeak. We ordinary Australians are routinely labelled homophobic, xenophobic, waaaaaacist, misogynistic, islamophobic, petty, small minded, evil and every other name under the sun….we’re even smeared and labelled as “truculent turds” by a vicious mediocre hack and that same hack then gets rewarded for her insults by by being given an Order of Australia.

    Last night, depressed, I thought to myself that this country and everything in it is one big and very bad joke.

    But this morning, despite waking up with one of my all too regular migraines, I was alerted to the news about the ACL setting up a new fund raising platform for Izzy. I have watched with joy the donations rise from $25,000 to over a million…and you know what…..I feel proud to be Australian. I feel hope. But we can’t rest on our laurels….this is Dunkirk…..there will be many more battles in the future and we need to don our hard hats and we need to fight…because that is what Australians have done today…they have fought back against the fascist storm troopers.

  9. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    According to Westpac, every Arab refugee is a doctor who has to work in a bakery.

    My local Westpac branch has a plaque acknowledging the traditional owners, and the wisdom of the elders, at the door. The fact that most of the local elders haven’t drawn a sober breath in some time appears to have escaped that institution.

  10. Frosty

    Retaining credit card records is illegal.

    To quote that paragon of jurisprudence Judge Judy: Baloney

    Wherever did you get such an idea?

  11. Cassie of Sydney

    You know…I have spent the last few years despairing about this country….often thinking I should move. Yesterday when I heard that GFM had pulled the plug on Izzy I decided that’s it…I’m outa here. I no longer want to live in this woke, fascistic, totalitarian nightmare called Australia where ordinary people are routinely bullied for being Christians, where ordinary people are routinely silenced by elitist leftist scum who have hijacked the media (minus a few exceptions), the arts, academia, private corporations and even the frigging sporting codes, where ordinary people are routinely smeared for questioning excessive immigration or transgenderism or questioning the merits of the religion of pieces, where ordinary people are routinely crucified for the crime of not conforming to the permitted wokethink and wokespeak. We ordinary Australians are routinely labelled homophobic, xenophobic, waaaaaacist, misogynistic, isaaaaalaaamophobic, petty, small minded, evil and every other name under the sun….we’re even smeared and labelled as “truculent turds” by a vicious mediocre hack and that same hack then gets rewarded for her insults by by being given an Order of Australia.

    Last night, depressed, I thought to myself that this country and everything in it is one big and very bad joke.

    But this morning, despite waking up with one of my all too regular migraines, I was alerted to the news about the ACL setting up a new fund raising platform for Izzy. I have watched with joy the donations rise from $25,000 to over a million…and you know what…..I feel proud to be Australian. I feel hope. But we can’t rest on our laurels….this is Dunkirk…..there will be many more battles in the future and we need to don our hard hats and we need to fight…because that is what Australians have done today…they have fought back against the fascist storm troopers.

  12. None

    P thanks for the link I’ll have a listen to it now

  13. Armadillo

    I can’t see too many donations from the Poms, Scots, Irish, South Africans or New Zealanders coming Folau’s way. Especially when he’s donating surplus funds to Australian Junior Rugby.

    Looks like it’s going to be up to the American Evangelicals to get him over the $100 million dollar mark. Someone just needs to tell them that it’s the “Game they play in Heaven”. That should do it.

  14. feelthebern

    Raising the issue of selective enforcement of contracts.
    If an employer has been found to do this, regardless of what they have to pay to the employee, they can get fined.
    But it would need FW to impose that & they are very selective.

  15. Armadillo

    As far as the Joo s go, just tell them his first name. Provide no further details.

  16. Infidel Tiger

    Martyn Iles
    @MartynLloydIles

    This is a peaceful uprising of quiet Australians. A voice that cannot be ignored. One man’s conviction is what it took – thank you
    @IzzyFolau

  17. P

    The first Rugby Union match I ever experienced was out at the SCG in 1957.
    It was City v Country. My current boyfriend at the time was from Wollongong and played for Country.
    He played 5/8 and was knocked unconscious. At the time I thought barbaric.
    That was a long time ago.

    I do not today wish to see RU Australia destroyed.

  18. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3053662, posted on June 25, 2019 at 9:32 pm
    According to Westpac, every Arab refugee is a doctor who has to work in a bakery.”

    Another example of “wokeness”

  19. feelthebern

    Mark Latham.
    Very funny tonight on PM Live.

  20. Robber Baron

    Westpac branch has a plaque acknowledging the traditional owners,

    My local westpac branch has a wet patch on its carpark wall where the traditional owners stumble out of the Cramers hotel in Preston and relieve themselves. The stench certainly acknowledges that they have left their mark like a dog marks its territory.

  21. Infidel Tiger

    I still can’t believe we are in this situation because someone got offended by an Instagram post!

  22. None

    Cassie. Nooooo. Don’t leave. You are Australia. No nonsense straight talking clear thinking oh my god you remind me of the Australia that seems to have gone missing. I kad been exchanging emails with a friend -colleague overseas who knows totalitarianism firSt hand and dispairing as to how much Australia has changed in the last 10 years.
    What A Difference A Day Makes!

    I have spent most of my day today firing off emails to every bully I come across and not getting any work done because finally I see some Australians who are awake and willing to band together and push back.

    Numbers might want to mock that there are only a few thousand but the sleeping majority are irrelevant. If this is what a few thousand can do then really there’s nothing that can’t be done.

    It’s just a little battle I know and a Long War ahead but it’s got to be won.

  23. None

    Hey Matrix it’s me and you, cage fight.

  24. rickw

    The Fed Govt will then give RA a huge grant to prop up rugby.

    If they do that, then the only building left standing in Canberra should be the ACL office.

  25. feelthebern

    Cassie, I you get sick of Oz, just move to Perth.
    It’s kind of Australia, but with less poker machines & the bikies run the town.

  26. Leigh Lowe

    I do not today wish to see RU Australia destroyed.

    Rugby will not be destroyed.
    The current board, CEO and coach will almost certainly get the flick.
    They will probably lose Quaintarse as a sponsor.
    But the game will go on.
    And it will be infinitely better for jettisoning the ballast.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle:

    I don’t think they’ll do it though, they’re not that bright.

    Not a matter of intelligence – if RA were intelligent, they wouldn’t be in this mess.
    This is a matter of Bureaucratic Ego, Pride, and Arrogance.
    “How dare the peasants protest!”

  28. Tintarella di Luna

    It’s kind of Australia, but with less poker machines & the bikies run the town.

    All Quiet on the Western Front kinda

  29. None

    I really do recommend that you watch at least the first part of the video which Ellen posted. Actually it’s the 2nd of the three parts which is the most interesting pertaining to Izzy’s case. It relates to the legal difficulty of defining a religion and the battle a head for Izzy’s legal team.

  30. Cassie of Sydney

    Latham on PML talking common sense…..very glad I voted for him.

  31. Incoherent Rambler:

    Hell.
    Satan has a pineapple for a dick.

    With the leaves on or off?
    A purist wishes to know.

  32. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3053686, posted on June 25, 2019 at 9:46 pm

    I still can’t believe we are in this situation because someone got offended by an Instagram post!

    Actually, people were told they should be offended.
    I don’t think many glitter-fags follow Issy on Instagram.

  33. Tintarella di Luna

    $1.441 who will be the Folau $1.5 lotto winner

  34. JC

    Trump’s latest accuser ,“rape is sexy”. Cooper cuts the interview.

    MSM drags out anything out of mental asylums to try and make him look bad.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/06/awkward-anderson-cooper-stutters-cuts-interview-short-after-trumps-rape-accuser-e-jean-carroll-calls-rape-sexy-video/

  35. Tintarella di Luna

    Latham on PML talking common sense…..very glad I voted for him.

    Me too Cassie

  36. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3053690, posted on June 25, 2019 at 9:48 pm
    Cassie, I you get sick of Oz, just move to Perth.
    It’s kind of Australia, but with less poker machines & the bikies run the town.”

    I’ve got family in Perth…..I know it well….I grew up there….in Claremont.

  37. 2248 for the halfway mark, please *******

  38. MatrixTransform

    Cramers hotel

    We was Preston people for way too many years … Cramers… stunning place …

  39. Leigh Lowe

    This seems like ages ago now.

    A reader

    #3052337, posted on June 25, 2019 at 12:29 am

    Australian Christian Lobby are doing the hosting for the Folau campaign. Click here

  40. None

    OK I’m going to make a really super big huge call given I have absolutely no background or qualification to make it. Triggs is talking out of her arse. The young guy in Ellen’s video also annoying but who has been involved in a lot of code of conduct cases around religion) knows what he’s talking about. Try the middle section where talks about the legal case although I also recommend the first section as somewhat he says there helps make sense of part 2. Thanks again for that Ellen. I’m actually feeling a lot more comfortable about ACL hosting Izzy’s donations now .

  41. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #3053699, posted on June 25, 2019 at 9:51 pm
    Trump’s latest accuser ,“rape is sexy”. “

    Oh yes…I bet the Yazidi girls, when they were getting gang raped by Muesli scum, though that “rape is sexy”.

    The modern left and the whole #Metoo movement diminishes, belittles and shits on everything…including rape. Unbelievable.

  42. Leigh Lowe

    11:23 for $1.5 meg.

  43. jupes

    I still can’t believe we are in this situation because someone got offended by an Instagram post!

    We live in the weirdest time in history.

  44. MatrixTransform

    cage fight

    MT hits None with a paragraph.

    take that !

  45. Gab

    My money’s on None hitting him with three times as many.

  46. Crossie

    Infidel Tiger
    #3053686, posted on June 25, 2019 at 9:46 pm
    I still can’t believe we are in this situation because someone got offended by an Instagram post!

    It seems many someones were offended, or at least pretended to be offended. My suspicion is that all the offenderatti don’t believe in God, heaven, sin or hell but it looks like they believe in Satan and we have been assigned that role. Now they are simply exorcising us.

    Seriously though I’m offended enough to pony up $120.

  47. Speedbox

    Out picking up wife but bid noted Winston.

  48. hzhousewife

    Me too Cassie

    Me three Cassie.
    Cassie I know how you feel I think, we could go to NZ after retirement but look whose ruling the roost over there now, I couldn’t face it seeing her on the news every night. This site and a few friends and family keep us sane and a sense of humor is essential too, take courage and take time out now and again, play loud music and do the mending maybe. Stay the course !

  49. Cactus

    Couple of thoughts.

    Thought 1: How does RA play Izzy case now to their best interests?
    So, they bunker down, go – yes we screwed up, lets agree to mediate with Izzy, we can jointly come up with a best practice for allowing religion to co-exist with sport. Some new code of practice, agree to respect Religion and diversity etc. Izzy apportions the unused legals to reinvigorate Junior rugby. RA payout his contract. Maybe it is possible for a win win? That’s the closest I get.

    Alternative is – they are bogged down in legals, bad publicity, public become apathetic against other codes. Its a horrible existence of lawyers, media, etc. They cant win even if they win.

    How else can RA win with this hand?

  50. Armadillo

    The first Rugby Union match I ever experienced was out at the SCG in 1957.

    Not to be pedantic, but as far as I’m aware, Rugby Union never played “City vs Country” (at least back in 1957). Pretty sure it would have been Rugby League.

    Doesn’t really matter. The point is that Izzy really has shown the divide between the “City” and the “Country”, as far as attitudes go. And when I say that, I honestly mean the “City Elites”. Not you well meaning Cats who are forced to live in those now urban cesspits.

  51. dover_beach

    I’m almost certain American money is now being donated. Wouldn’t surprise me if we are over $3M when we wake up tomorrow morning.
    Thank you, Fitzy. Thank you, GFM.

  52. jupes

    Aussies cutting sick against the Poms.

  53. MatrixTransform

    three times as many.

    None counters with a slab of text.
    MT, punctuates
    …pauses
    … and punctuates again.

    take that

  54. Beertruk

    23:45 for me, Speedbox.

  55. Leigh Lowe

    jupes

    #3053722, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:04 pm

    Aussies cutting sick against the Poms

    And the terrorists brother can’t burn Maxxie mid-pitch this time.

  56. Cactus

    Thought 2: How does Izzy – really play his strong hand better.
    1) He offers his services to a small club rugby team. Says he loves the game, wants to compete and RA has neglected grass roots rugby. Invites us to participate. Could the crowds turn out in numbers and support? Show up how shoddy the game in Australia is run vis a vis Super Rugby crowds?
    2) He teams up with a major benefactor (Andrew Forrest?) and creates a competing rugby tournament. Super League part 2. Grass roots Australasian rugby. Open to anyone, but bring in the big Polynesian players and him as well.

  57. jupes

    I knew I shouldn’t have posted that.

  58. Armadillo

    Everything Qantas sponsors turns to shit. “I still call Australia home” should have been an omen.

  59. Mark A

    P
    #3053548, posted on June 25, 2019 at 8:12 pm

    This is no different to any other responsible place that collects email addressEs.

    I wrote in my email address but they wanted the address of my residence before I could continue with the transaction. I reneged because I am aged and live alone.

    Didn’t you say you donated even for your grandson?
    Get your story straight. Or remember your fibs.

  60. MatrixTransform

    $1M467 .

    on target

  61. Leigh Lowe

    dover_beach

    #3053721, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:03 pm

    I’m almost certain American money is now being donated. Wouldn’t surprise me if we are over $3M when we wake up tomorrow morning.
    Thank you, Fitzy. Thank you, GFM.

    If it continues apace through the night that will be confirmed.
    It has been running at almost precisely $90k per hour every hour for the last four hours.

  62. Infidel Tiger

    Same story every game for Australia. Huge start squandered by crap middle order.

  63. None

    None throws Matrix to the ground and slaps on a capslock ….

  64. Crossie

    How else can RA win with this hand?

    With this hand, no. They will need to change their entire upper echelon of leaders, manager, whatever then apologise profusely and start again.

    They made the mistake of believing their own publicity, that football is equal to religion. If it were they wouldn’t need a Qantas sponsorship.

    Now let’s see if God will exhibit his sense of humour in this case. Note I said he, not she or it or ze or xe …

  65. Cactus

    The reason I would love to see Folau play another game of rugby is that I would love to see a crowd gather to cheer him on. How good would it be? Announcer: “…and now, number 15, Israel Folau!” and a big crowd gathers to cheer him on. He flashes a big goofy smile. It would be a wonderful moment. Right now we are just paying our money, watching the funds tick over, blogging and aware others are with us. But we are human and we all need the human stuff. I’d love to cheer Izzy again, some how, in some form.

  66. Infidel Tiger

    Stoinis is an absolute dud.

    Can’t bowl or bat. God looking though.

  67. Tel

    Retaining credit card records is illegal.

    To quote that paragon of jurisprudence Judge Judy: Baloney

    Wherever did you get such an idea?

    There’s a thing called “Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard” (PCI DSS) which is not a law, nor is it enforced by government (to the best of my knowledge) but if anyone regularly processes card payments and fails an audit then all of the banks and CC companies immediately gang up against that company, which severely curtails their future business.

    All of those standards can be found online and downloaded … it’s hardly a secret … but it is complicated. There are situations where you are able to retain CC numbers for various purposes but doing it properly and maintaining compliance is non-trivial. Rules get stricter as you process more transactions, on the theory that a security breach at a major node will be far more damaging than if it happens at some corner store.

    If you find any unauthorized transactions against your personal cards you should of course immediately call your bank and question what’s going on there. If you are quick, they will refund you and clawback the money from the merchant.

    As for charities, one of the classic disputes that comes up, is when they keep charging your card after the expiry date. It’s not exactly fraud since they had your agreement in the first place, but on the other hand it’s a bit dodgy as well. It does happen, and they usually get away with it. My suggestion is cycle to a new card number every few years just in case, it’s only a tiny nuisance and doesn’t cost much.

  68. MatrixTransform

    even though MT’s spelling is off he quickly employs a CTRL-ESC out of it.
    avoiding the numbers (who wouldnt?)

  69. None

    Going to ask boss must be hating the fact that is his photo is on the ACA website with the Qantas logo visible on his jersey.

    I’ve listened to the Triggs interview and while there are some aspects that seemed to correlate with what the Martins I was saying she seems to forget that is he was actually quoting The Bible or at least a paraphrase or a translation of the Bible and if they prohibit that speech they’re basically prohibiting quoting The Bible in public.

    And this very much goes to something Bernard Gaynor said just before Izzy’s code of conduct hearing when he wrote abput the woman who was acting on behalf of RA (who wants to be the boss of ahrc that’s her dream job): and the intent of the homosexualist activist who has been hounding him: they want to “ban the Bible”

  70. Leigh Lowe

    Cactus at 10:03.
    File that under “F” for “Fucked if I know”.
    But your general point is on the money.
    Even if RA win the battle they will lose the PR war.
    I think the mindset will be to dig in right now, but eventually one board member or influential supporter will say that they have to consider negotiation.
    That will also require standing up to the Leprechaun.
    It might require a broker to approach Qantas at board level to muzzle the Leprechaun.
    It must be occurring to the dim-bulbs at Q that this is not doing them a lot of good.

  71. Cassie of Sydney

    I also can’t get over that some of the woke scum have gone after Maria Folau…..led by that skank (and yes….I know Pope Frank will object but I’ll use that word because it is appropriate) Liz Ellis. Tonight Peta Credlin predicted that Ellis will run for the ALP. If that does happen in the future….as I mentioned up thread….the skank will need to be reminded of her fascism, her bullying and her intolerance. The skank will need to be called out for her own bigotry against Maria Folau…who just so happens to be a woman of colour.

    The time has come to take the gloves off.

  72. Infidel Tiger

    Get Stoinis out.

    He is shite.

  73. None

    None CTL SHIFTS once, twice to a different language and keyboard to throw Matrix off balance. She’s gone for a non Roman script!!!

  74. Infidel Tiger

    Thank God.

    Terrible cricketer.

  75. Mark A

    Infidel Tiger
    #3053739, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:15 pm

    Stoinis is an absolute dud.

    Can’t bowl or bat. God looking though.

    When is your coming out party IT?

  76. It's Remarkable

    Rugby will not be destroyed.
    The current board, CEO and coach will almost certainly get the flick.
    They will probably lose Quaintarse as a sponsor.
    But the game will go on.
    And it will be infinitely better for jettisoning the ballast.

    Agree with that. As one who played for nearly 25 years, and loved it for the friends and fun times that were had, both on and off the paddock, it will go on and be stronger as a result of this upheaval.
    Sometimes good things come from the rubble.

  77. Tintarella di Luna

    Liz Ellis’ fawning all over Bill Shorten during the election was absolutely sickening. I wonder what sinecure they offered her for getting on board. What a piece of work.

  78. MatrixTransform

    ÆƵǑɸʢʢ ???

  79. Leigh Lowe

    Tel.
    It was on the WorldVision website.
    I made a one-off donation, so no question of continuing direct debit.
    Additionally I told them to take me off the mailing list.
    So they call me more than 12 months later admitting they have retained my CC number.
    That, to me, is a breach of consumer law, because they undertook to destroy numbers for one-off transactions.

  80. Moderation

    Rugby will not be destroyed.
    The current board, CEO and coach will almost certainly get the flick.
    They will probably lose Quaintarse as a sponsor.
    But the game will go on.
    And it will be infinitely better for jettisoning the ballast.

    Agree with that. As one who played for nearly 25 years, and loved it for the friends and fun times that were had, both on and off the paddock, it will go on and be stronger as a result of this upheaval.
    Sometimes good things come from the rubble.

  81. None

    Peta Credlin calling out Liz Ellis. I hope that tape is online. Honestly the netball ladies have handled this quite well and I even said to the Netball SA CEO that she should run rugby Australia. She used to run a men’s comp before she joined Netball SA.

  82. Tintarella di Luna

    What are the colours of the flying streamers for these keyboard warriors?

  83. MatrixTransform

    omg … how fast is that number rising?

    making me smile

  84. dover_beach

    If it continues apace through the night that will be confirmed.
    It has been running at almost precisely $90k per hour every hour for the last four hours.

    I’ve been on Twitter last half hour and Peter Singer has written an article supporting Folau, retweeted by Robbie George and other Catholic twitteratti. Could be 8 figures by the end of the week.

  85. Tel

    I still can’t believe we are in this situation because someone got offended by an Instagram post!

    Confected outrage precisely for the purpose of getting into this situation.

    Look … the gays have been slanging off the Christians for many decades in Australia, and the Christians have been clutching their Bibles and gesturing at the heavens and shouting “sinful!” since as long as I can remember. How about Max Gillies lampooning Pope John Paul II with his “Stop it or you go blind” speech?

    We already had an answer to this: everyone gets offended and the first one the whinge about it loses. That’s the Aussie culture I grew up in.

  86. None

    ماذا بحق الجحيم هذه اللغة؟ عربى؟

  87. Tintarella di Luna

    $1.490,611

  88. Leigh Lowe

    Issy to bat 6 for Australia.

  89. It's Remarkable

    Rugby will not be destroyed.
    The current board, CEO and coach will almost certainly get the flick.
    They will probably lose Quaintarse as a sponsor.
    But the game will go on.
    And it will be infinitely better for jettisoning the ballast.

    Agree with that. As one who played for nearly 25 years, and loved it for the friends and fun times that were had, both on and off the paddock, it will go on and be stronger as a result of this upheaval.
    Sometimes good things come from the rubble.

  90. None

    Exactly Tel. Gays and lesbians don’t have it so good anywhere in the world like they do in Australia.

  91. Leigh Lowe

    Who has got 10:35 in Issy-lotto?

  92. Tintarella di Luna

    Exactly Tel. Gays and lesbians don’t have it so good anywhere in the world like they do in Australia.

    Or in the US — and then you get Jussie Smollet

  93. None

    Matrix has 10 36 and I have 10:40 I think

  94. Tintarella di Luna

    Only $7k to go

  95. MatrixTransform

    ماذا بحق الجحيم هذه اللغة؟ عربى؟

    آمل أن تتفوق الجمل على طول خط النهاية

  96. None

    no it was
    None 10:40
    MatrixTransform 10:34

    It’s past 10:34 I win I win

  97. None

    No hang on what did Gab have?

  98. Leigh Lowe

    Tintarella di Luna

    #3053754, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:24 pm

    Liz Ellis’ fawning all over Bill Shorten during the election was absolutely sickening. I wonder what sinecure they offered her for getting on board. What a piece of work

    You could be right.
    There is a viscious bitterness there.
    Hard to put a number on it, but the attack on Maria has fired a lot of people up to donate.
    As Paul Murray says, “love is love” but then they kick the shit out of someone for standing by their husband.

  99. mh

    Charlie De Mar

    @CharlieDeMar
    Body camera video of CPD officers entering Jussie Smollett’s apartment the night attack was reported.

    He still has rope around his neck. @cbschicago
    8:10 AM – Jun 25, 2019
    https://twitter.com/CharlieDeMar/status/1143280367589367808?s=20

  100. None

    جمالك هي أكياس الصفن التي تنتشر فيها البراغيث.

  101. Cassie of Sydney

    Maria Folau is a beautiful and classy woman….unlike the skank Ellis.

  102. John Brumble

    Mark A-
    The fly half of the 1957 NSW Country team that played NSW City at the SCG was Rees Duncan, a Koori man who obviously did quite well considering the endemic racism of that era. He turned 25 in that year and played for Newcastle (later Manly and Wests). He captained the NSW Country side that lost 50-something to 2.

    Always good to get a story straight.

  103. MatrixTransform

    No hang on what did Gab have?

    Gab 10:30

    None wins the whole jar of jelly beans

  104. MatrixTransform

    جمالك هي أكياس الصفن التي تنتشر فيها البراغيث.

    **blushes

  105. jupes

    You know that Stoinis and Khawaja will be dropped for the Marsh Bros before the final.

  106. jupes

    Speak English or die you bastards.

  107. Infidel Tiger

    Pathetic from Australia.

    Wrong players in the wrong batting order.

  108. None

    Ýàaaaaaay I won. Back of envelope meh beats precision log series.

    Who wants the black jelly beans?

  109. Mark A

    John Brumble
    #3053783, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:39 pm

    Could be and you are probably right.

    But I wasn’t commenting on that as I know zilch abut rugby of any kind.

  110. Infidel Tiger

    Marsh brother would be welcome additions.

    Particularly Shaun.

  111. John Brumble

    Oops. Kurri Kurri the town that’s about as far north of Sydney that the ‘gong is south. Not Koori the indigenous grouping. Still good player. Australian rep at 21z

  112. Leigh Lowe

    Fair enough about estimating techniques.
    I plonked in some numbers this arvo and put some lines through them and thought it would top at $900k or $1 meg.
    But it has a life of it’s own.

  113. Bar Beach Swimmer

    I was in the depths of despair this time yesterday but today ….
    HOW GOOD IS ‘STRAYA!!!

    +1

  114. None

    LOL Matrix the reverse translation replaces camel with beauty….

    Mh I have never heard you use such language LOL

  115. Tintarella di Luna

    Liz Ellis is a lawyer too, law degree from Macquarie. Used to admire her very much, not so much now she’s shown her true colours, vicious and mean.

  116. Megan

    Who wants the black jelly beans

    Me! Do you have a problem with beans of colour? Black Beanist!

  117. hzhousewife

    Ripper ! Now to bed with a big smile on my face. That was a pretty rapid rise for the last hour.

  118. Leigh Lowe

    Tintarella di Luna

    #3053800, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:46 pm

    Liz Ellis is a lawyer too, law degree from Macquarie. Used to admire her very much, not so much now she’s shown her true colours, vicious and mean.

    Always was.
    As I related the story of the young addition to the squad who she was (ahem) “less than fully welcoming of” because the kid was a perceived threat to her position.

  119. MatrixTransform

    reverse translation

    yup. and I deffo didnt wish yr camel to excel (I believe it was something about farts)

  120. Tintarella di Luna

    So it was round about 10:45pm the magic $1.5m I can now rest and leave it all in the hands of my guardian angel – St Michael the Archangel. Buona notte gatti e gattine. Time for la ninna nanna

  121. Armadillo

    It might require a broker to approach Qantas at board level to muzzle the Leprechaun.
    It must be occurring to the dim-bulbs at Q that this is not doing them a lot of good.

    No. The Leprechaun DOESNT own Qantas. The SHAREHOLDERS own Qantas.

    This is exactly the problem. Half these fuckwit CEO’s, managers and HR departments think their shit doesn’t stink. They believe it is their RIGHT just to push their personal idealogical preferences onto the general public. If Qantas “burns”, they won’t give a rats arse. They will collect their payout and move on.

    The shareholders are the ones that will be left carrying the can.

  122. None

    Cassie that first part of the video which Ellen posted has the Martyn guy outlining how the media is sending out the same smeaes and false information across multiple platforms. He really explains it well. He points to rugby Australia and it’s PR machine as the source for the whole “Israel attacks transgender childre” lie and I wonder who he would say was behind the Maria attack. Same? The fact that yesterday the media was going “we’re waiting to see what netball New Zealand does” (WHY?) after Netball SA told them to sod off while today we find that ANZ expressed concerns and netball New Zealand told everyone to sod off, suggests to me that the media is in on the campaign. I’m starting to think more JournoList rather than groupthink.

    I’m so happy I told ANZ that they are bullies and used the me too slogan.

  123. None

    Top Ender

    #3053807, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:51 pm

    Victoria to ban mobile phones in school from beginning of 2020.

    ut there’s a climate emergency. How will they ring for an ambulance just save the polar bears?

  124. Barry

    Why no interviews of Rugby Australia?

    MSM are hardly chasing any of this.

    I know 9-Fairfax is hopelessly conflicted, but surely there is someone in one of the other media blocs to camp outside RA and get at least a “no comment”?

  125. None

    Qantas shareholders don’t give a sheet as long as they’re getting a dividend that really don’t give a ship

  126. MatrixTransform

    Why no interviews of Rugby Australia?

    The MSM and Morality Cartel are trying to memory-hole it.

  127. Speedbox

    Bugger. After all that, I missed it. Congrats None.

    I’m surprised the money continues to roll in at the rate. Still going up at about $700-900 per minute. I was expecting big slowdown by now (due to the time).

  128. Bar Beach Swimmer

    nothing fundamentally significant is happening.

    File this with these other great predictions…

    “Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons.”
    — Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949
    “I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.”
    — Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943
    “I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won’t last out the year.”
    — The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957
    “But what … is it good for?”
    — Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968,commenting on the microchip.
    “There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.”
    — Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977
    “This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us.”
    — Western Union internal memo, 1876.
    “The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?”
    — David Sarnoff’s associates in response to his urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s.
    “The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better than a ‘C,’ the idea must be feasible.”
    — A Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith’s paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.)
    “I’m just glad it’ll be Clark Gable who’s falling on his face not Gary Cooper.”
    — Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in “Gone With The Wind.”
    “We don’t like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out.”
    — Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.
    “Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible.”
    — Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.
    “If I had thought about it, I wouldn’t have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can’t do this.”
    — Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3-M “Post-It” Notepads.
    “So we went to Atari and said, ‘Hey, we’ve got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or we’ll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we’ll come work for you.’ And they said, ‘No.’ So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, ‘Hey, we don’t need you. You haven’t got through college yet.'”
    — Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and HP interested in his and Steve Wozniak’s personal computer.
    “Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools.”
    — 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard’s revolutionary rocket work.
    “Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You’re crazy.”
    — Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859.
    “Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau.”
    — Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929.
    “Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value.”
    — Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre.
    “Everything that can be invented has been invented.”
    — Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.
    “Louis Pasteur’s theory of germs is ridiculous fiction”.
    — Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872
    “The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon”.
    — Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria 1873.
    “640K ought to be enough for anybody.”
    — Bill Gates, 1981
    “$100 million dollars is way too much to pay for Microsoft.”
    — IBM, 1982
    Who the h_ll wants to hear actors talk?”
    — H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927.”

  129. Infidel Tiger

    Embarrassing from Australia.

  130. Lilliana

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3053673, posted on June 25, 2019 at 9:37 pm

    You know…I have spent the last few years despairing about this country….

    I have had the same thoughts so many times. This is not the Australia I grew up in. My beloved country is being destroyed. Today gives me hope that with enough push back we can prevail.
    Never give up, Never give in.

  131. Leigh Lowe

    No. The Leprechaun DOESNT own Qantas. The SHAREHOLDERS own Qantas.

    What I mean is someone has a fireside chat with a Q director wearing a (figurative) suicide vest.
    “Look, if it gets to discovery, all the emails and texts will have to be handed over. I assume you are across all of them? And if our people are cross-examined under oath, the meeting of 15th May will of course come up. Which could be awkward. Perhaps you might give Alan a bit of a nudge to drop this one because, well, we have the greatest respect for Alan and we value the relationship with Qantas, if it comes to giving evidence under oath …”.
    Decoded.
    Push comes to shove, we are going to drop you in it.

  132. Mark A

    Speedbox
    #3053815, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:59 pm

    Bugger. After all that, I missed it. Congrats None.

    I’m surprised the money continues to roll in at the rate. Still going up at about $700-900 per minute. I was expecting big slowdown by now (due to the time).

    If as dover suggested overseas money is coming in then it’s just beginning.
    Mid afternoon here in central Europe and early in the Americas, not expecting too many donations from Europe I suppose it’s mostly round ba.l territory.

  133. None

    Front page Daily Tele

    ANZ BANK CONDEMNS MARIA FOLAU IN PUBLIC STATEMENT

    ‘NOSEY ZEALOT’ Israel Folau’s star netballer wife has found herself in the firing line of the ANZ bank which has called her ­employer and issued a public statement condemning her. The bank approached New Zealand’s Silver Ferns national netball team to distance itself from their star player’s ‘views’.

    20m6

    Watch the feminists run now. This is unconscionable
    Once again women lose out. They have to step aside for transgenders and they have to step aside for gays and they have to step aside for old white men who run Banks. F*** that.

  134. Speedbox

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3053673, posted on June 25, 2019 at 9:37 pm
    You know…I have spent the last few years despairing about this country….

    Lilliana
    #3053822, posted on June 25, 2019 at 11:03 pm
    I have had the same thoughts so many times.
    Today gives me hope that with enough push back we can prevail.

    Don’t worry, those thoughts will return and reinforce themselves before too long.

  135. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    File this with these other great predictions…

    “I consider the machine gun a mechanical toy. Two per battalion should suffice.”

    Autographed picture of Anthony Albanese – nude – to any Cat who can identify the speaker. Douglas Haig?

  136. MatrixTransform

    push comes to shove, we are going to drop you in it.

    that would be, drop you into the oil we render after roasting the Goth Witch

  137. Old School Conservative

    Armadillo
    #3053719, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:03 pm
    The first Rugby Union match I ever experienced was out at the SCG in 1957.

    Not to be pedantic, but as far as I’m aware, Rugby Union never played “City vs Country” (at least back in 1957). Pretty sure it would have been Rugby League.

    Agreed.
    Union games between city and country used to be called Sydney v NSW Country. I don’t remember any recent games because the ‘third tier” competition (formerly Australian Rugby Championship, now National Rugby Championship) was introduced in 2007, with NSW Country playing in that comp.

    The famous “up the jumper try” happened in the 1975 game.

    Given all the name changes I’m not surprised that anyone would use the City v Country name.

  138. EvilElvis

    A Rabbi, an Iman and a homo walk into a newsroom…

  139. mh

    “Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons.”
    — Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

    Tim Flannery’s grandfather writing for Popular Mechanics?

  140. A Quiet Australian

    I’m surprised the money continues to roll in at the rate. Still going up at about $700-900 per minute. I was expecting big slowdown by now (due to the time)

    Still early in WA, and rugby followers in the west hate RA due to its handling of the Western Force.

  141. Knuckle Dragger

    Frigging Maxwell.

    He could have been the world’s best allrounder for the past five years. Every goddamn time he cocks it up, despite his massive, massive talent.

    It’s like watching Walter Lindrum play billiards with a star picket.

  142. Knuckle Dragger

    Speed read the thread.

    Who unpicked Four Leaf’s farrago of dodgy truths this time?

  143. Leigh Lowe

    I was in the depths of despair this time yesterday but today ….
    HOW GOOD IS ‘STRAYA!!!

    Actually, for once I wasn’t taking the piss.
    When the GFM page went down yesterday I felt sick in the guts.
    And then I woke up in the middle of the night and saw the ACL page.
    I thought, “Brave effort, but limited exposure and will probably be taken off social media during the day.”
    I even thought the initial $20k might have been salted by ACL to spark interest.
    I made my contribution about 7:00 am thinking that they might raise $200k – $300k tops.
    Then off she went like a Saturn V rocket.
    It gives a feeling of strength to know that there are tens of thousands out there who feel exactly the same way.

  144. Steve trickler

    Constantly changing the vinyl. Analogue. No digital here.

    You don’t have to like it, but you now know about it.



  145. Bruce in WA

    Oh it would be so good to have won the Div 1 Lotto tonight and be able to tip $5m into Izzy’s fund.

  146. Speedbox

    Kitchener thought the machine gun was a “a pretty mechanical toy” but whether he said “two per battalion should suffice”, I don’t know.

    Did he? If it was Kitchener, you can keep the prize. Thanks all the same.

  147. Knuckle Dragger

    Behrendorff!

    Second ball!

  148. Ryan

    ANZ are absolutely copping it on their Facebookpage tonight. The quiet Australians are not tolerating any more bullshit. Expect their share price to tank tomorrow.

  149. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3053836, posted on June 25, 2019 at 11:24 pm

    Speed read the thread.

    Who unpicked Four Leaf’s farrago of dodgy truths this time?

    He did consider 10,000 people contributing $750k as “fringe loonies” or summink.
    But two greenies gluing themselves to the road is somehow a sign of a seismic shift in world affairs.
    Deranged.
    I don’t bother.
    It is like trying to teach advanced calculus to a housebrick.

  150. None

    That’s fantastic to hear Ryan. People should start closing accounts. And also people should start linking to news reports from 2016 onwards about the ANZ culture of bullying, the CEO ANZ New Zealand that got booted a couple of days ago. Find error report about ANZ bad behaviour and post a link to it on their Facebook page. It disgusts me that the ANZ New Zealand CEO that took over two or three days ago is a woman if she was part of this pulling then really she needs to be taken down a peg or two.

  151. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Who unpicked Four Leaf’s farrago of dodgy truths this time?

    Seems to have been someone else from the same unit, who was in the “fun factory” at the same time.

    I’m reading a very good biography of Vo Nguyen Giap – Ho Chi Minh’s right hand man – by James Warren.

    “Communist historians today freely admit what they categorically denied throughout the war: that the entire Communist movement in the South took its orders from Hanoi. Its various regional and provincial headquarters took orders from the Politburo of the Vietnam Workers Party (the formal name of the Communist Party) and the People’s Liberation Armed Forces was, in effect, a branch of the People’s Army of Vietnam, headed by Giap. During the war Hanoi claimed – vehemently – that the Southern insurgents operated independently. This was dissembling. In fact, the claim was a central tenet of Hanoi’s prpagande campaign designed to win sympathy for the Revolution internationally, as well as to suggest that the United States, not Hanoi, was the aggressor who was in flagrant violation of the Geneva Accords.” Page 134.
    Good reading. It seems that a lot of “useful idiots” in the West fell hook line and sinker for the official Party line.

  152. None

    Who unpicked Four Leaf’s farrago of dodgy truths this time?

    I think it was Bubbles? Sorry a name that I don’t see often.

  153. C.L.

    Could somebody de-paywall what appears to be an idiotic article, main-page at The Australian:

    Israel must be without sin
    If Israel Folau has indeed lived a perfect life then he should be in the running to make sainthood.

    By GRAHAM RICHARDSON

  154. None

    Yes it was Bubbles on the previous page

  155. Confused Old Misfit

    You people who despair of Australia and who contemplate leaving, where are you going to go?
    Canada, where you have a Prime Minister who ponc3es down the main street at the head of a gay pride parade and where it is seriously cold for 6 months of the year despite global warmening?
    The USA?
    Some where in the Caribbean?
    Can’t think of anywhere I’d like to live in South America.
    Greece used to be a go to destination. Not sure how it rates these days.
    I guess if you have a second language you might have some more choices.
    But, in any case, I’d bet you can count your options on the fingers of one hand.

  156. None

    Cl the newspapers play games with their headlines at this time of night so what you might see on a Google search page will be different to what do you will see on the front page will be different again to what you will see on the actual article. So there’s a bit of smearing and clickbait going on. The article itself has the headline
    Folau must be without sin to be confident in throwing stones

  157. Bruce in WA

    Richo’s article:

    The drama surrounding Israel Folau refuses to go away. Now it’s about whether he can even have a GoFundMe page.

    GoFundMe’s decision to take down his page strikes me as an ­affront to those among us who ­believe in the concept of religious freedom. The argument then ­becomes one about free speech. The basis of any rule about free speech must be the right to offend. One right fits, hand in glove, with the other.

    While I am in no position to pretend that I am a person of faith, I was raised a Catholic and the ­Sisters of Charity drilled into my core the concept that we should “let he who is without sin cast the first stone”.

    In making his pronouncements about liars, fornicators and other ne’er-do-wells, Folau must consider himself as being in that category. Personally, I am having real difficulty believing that Folau is such a perfect human being that he has never succumbed to any of the devil’s wide range of temptations.

    If he has indeed lived a perfect life then he should be in the running to make sainthood in the same manner as Mary MacKillop. I am unaware, however, of any moves to canonise him. As someone who has committed every sin on many occasions, his belief that I am headed for hell, a place I do not believe exists, does not cause me any angst.

    As an unfinancial Catholic, I suppose there is always the option of the deathbed confession to wipe away the prospect of any punishment for my myriad wrongdoings. This is the safe option. You repent at the very end of your life and then suffer no penalty for having been a thoroughgoing bastard for most of your life.

    Scott Morrison is a man of faith, but the Prime Minister doesn’t wonder around the country warning sinners of the warmish fate they can expect if they refuse to change their ways.

    When I was a lad, the odd man out was the one who did not go to church on Sundays. Now the churches are struggling to hold on to fast-disappearing congregations. The so-called “happy clappers” of the evangelical churches use well-appointed stadium-type venues, while the traditional churches are stuck in buildings ­designed to make parishioners sweat in the summer and freeze in the winter.

    Watching successive popes preach against birth control and divorce is almost sad. In Africa there are huge numbers of children with distended bellies from a lack of food.

    To suggest there should be more children born only condemns those kids to a short life of sickness and misery. Africa could do so much better at feeding its citizens if governments got over the chip on their shoulders about their former colonial masters. Zimbabwe was a productive country until Robert Mugabe dismantled the big farms and allowed them to be cut up into small holdings.

    In South Africa there are gangs attacking the few farms left in white hands. Had Nelson Mandela lived longer, this tragedy may have been prevented, but his ­successors possessed none of his wisdom.

    The story of Africa is one of tribal rivalry and missed opportunities. I remain an optimist ­despite the body of evidence at hand and hope I will live to see ­improved living standards in a continent that has failed to fire.

  158. None

    first part of richo

    The drama surrounding Israel Folau refuses to go away. Now it’s about whether he can even have a GoFundMe page.

    GoFundMe’s decision to take down his page strikes me as an ­affront to those among us who ­believe in the concept of religious freedom. The argument then ­becomes one about free speech. The basis of any rule about free speech must be the right to offend. One right fits, hand in glove, with the other.

    While I am in no position to pretend that I am a person of faith, I was raised a Catholic and the ­Sisters of Charity drilled into my core the concept that we should “let he who is without sin cast the first stone”.

    In making his pronouncements about liars, fornicators and other ne’er-do-wells, Folau must consider himself as being in that category. Personally, I am having real difficulty believing that Folau is such a perfect human being that he has never succumbed to any of the devil’s wide range of temptations.

    If he has indeed lived a perfect life then he should be in the running to make sainthood in the same manner as Mary MacKillop. I am unaware, however, of any moves to canonise him. As someone who has committed every sin on many occasions, his belief that I am headed for hell, a place I do not believe exists, does not cause me any angst.

    As an unfinancial Catholic, I suppose there is always the option of the deathbed confession to wipe away the prospect of any punishment for my myriad wrongdoings. This is the safe option. You repent at the very end of your life and then suffer no penalty for having been a thoroughgoing bastard for most of your life.

    Continue Reading

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    Starc!

    Poms 2/15!

  160. None

    Second part of Richo

    Scott Morrison is a man of faith, but the Prime Minister doesn’t wonder around the country warning sinners of the warmish fate they can expect if they refuse to change their ways.

    When I was a lad, the odd man out was the one who did not go to church on Sundays. Now the churches are struggling to hold on to fast-disappearing congregations. The so-called “happy clappers” of the evangelical churches use well-appointed stadium-type venues, while the traditional churches are stuck in buildings ­designed to make parishioners sweat in the summer and freeze in the winter.

    Watching successive popes preach against birth control and divorce is almost sad. In Africa there are huge numbers of children with distended bellies from a lack of food.

    To suggest there should be more children born only condemns those kids to a short life of sickness and misery. Africa could do so much better at feeding its citizens if governments got over the chip on their shoulders about their former colonial masters. Zimbabwe was a productive country until Robert Mugabe dismantled the big farms and allowed them to be cut up into small holdings.

    In South Africa there are gangs attacking the few farms left in white hands. Had Nelson Mandela lived longer, this tragedy may have been prevented, but his ­successors possessed none of his wisdom.

    The story of Africa is one of tribal rivalry and missed opportunities. I remain an optimist ­despite the body of evidence at hand and hope I will live to see ­improved living standards in a continent that has failed to fire.

  161. P

    Not to be pedantic, but as far as I’m aware, Rugby Union never played “City vs Country” (at least back in 1957). Pretty sure it would have been Rugby League.

    Sorry, that game I attended was Country v All Blacks. Definitely Rugby Union.

  162. Bruce in WA

    You people who despair of Australia and who contemplate leaving, where are you going to go?

    Alaska, New Hampshire, Texas, Maine, Italy, Croatia, Finland, Norway, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas …

    Can you see a pattern here?

  163. None

    Ok there seems to be a bit of a line here that the words that is Izzy used were his words wheras he was actually quoting the bible even if it was a paraphrase of the Bible ( there are versions of the Bible on the market that are just that.) So Richo is off on his medicated bender and has forgotten even the little that the nuns taugh him. It is no wonder that young Christian men are looking to people like Jordan Peterson (who is not a Christian) and Izzy Folau for inspiration when you’ve got these tired old f****** apostates like Richo.

  164. The Bible verses Izzy quoted do not mention homosexuals.

  165. Old School Conservative

    I see Richo’s flawed-logic article as a threat to Israel.
    Hints abound, especially with the statement Personally, I am having real difficulty believing that Folau is such a perfect human being that he has never succumbed to any of the devil’s wide range of temptations. Talking about Folau not being put up for canonisation is taking bitterness to crazy levels.

    Richo wants to be part of the Folau destroying media posse.

  166. BrettW

    I see the Tele is reporting Chris Smith lost his job at 2GB.

    Anybody know why ?

    I thought he was fairly middle of the road as far as 2GB radio guys go.

    Good to see ANZ getting a hammering over Folau.

  167. Knuckle Dragger

    Starc! Vince, Root and Morgan gone!

    3/26!

  168. Infidel Tiger

    Alaska, New Hampshire, Texas, Maine, Italy, Croatia, Finland, Norway, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas …

    Poland, Hungary…

    Dunno about Finland and Norway.

  169. Done Deal

    >$1.5M; The turds have spoken again

  170. Leigh Lowe

    Just had a look Ryan.
    ANZ are getting the shit kicked out of them.

  171. C.L.

    Richardson’s argument is very old boilerplate. Very old.
    First you posit the thesis that only a saint may preach the Gospel (false), then you question whether the preacher could possibly be a saint (why, of course not), then you counsel him not to preach the Gospel. Donatism – the idea that only Sacraments dispensed by saintly priests were valid – was rejected by the Catholic Church in the 300s, with St Augustine one of the doctors responsible for settling the matter. Stick to angle-whispering banal intra-party donnybrooks in Canberra, Graham.

  172. Infidel Tiger

    ANZ are a despicable organisation.

    I own a small amount of their shares which I must sell.

  173. Leigh Lowe

    I see Richo’s flawed-logic article as a threat to Israel.
    Hints abound, especially with the statement Personally, I am having real difficulty believing that Folau is such a perfect human being that he has never succumbed to any of the devil’s wide range of temptations. 

    And … where did Issy claim to be perfect?

  174. Bruce in WA

    Poland, Hungary…

    Dunno about Finland and Norway.

    Gun laws

  175. Knuckle Dragger

    How timely.

    My mortgage is with ANZ, but I was thinking about changing providers for a better rate.

    Decision made. And an excellent reason for me to gob off at them while I do it.

  176. C.L.

    What a bizarre coda to a Folau analysis: Richardson wants fewer black Africans on the planet.
    A final solution, as it were.

  177. C.L.

    Where are these ANZ comments?

  178. Leigh Lowe

    Facebook.
    Search “ANZ”.
    Or “Australia’s Faggiest Bank”.

  179. Leigh Lowe

    How timely.

    My mortgage is with ANZ, but I was thinking about changing providers for a better rate.

    Decision made. And an excellent reason for me to gob off at them while I do it.

    We have one credit card plus shares and hybrids.
    All going.
    We had a mortgage which I paid out but they totally fucked up the transfer of title causing us to delay a property settlement.
    Understandable I suppose if you are busy smoking cock instead of doing paperwork.

  180. None

    I’m too lazy to look up Izzy’s feed to find which version he quoted I know it was a bit of a paraphrase but here is a very popular version

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 New International Version (NIV)

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+cor+6.9-10&version=NIV

    Just about every modern version of the Bible in every language imaginable is available online for free and has been since the start of the internet. The site I just linked to has got quite a number of them but there are plenty more in all languages and using all sorts of translation strategies some more literal , some dynamic equivalence, some paraphrase, whatever. There is a whole science around translation and it is a screen times more difficult if you are translating from ancient languages but if you want to sit there and say that the bible didn’t use the word homosexual any professional would look at you strangely.

    In fact I do remember some time back reading that Bible and Bible verses are probably the most commonly searched item on the internet but that might be old stuff now. If rugby Australia or any other sodomy fetishist wants to complain about a Bible quote then they need to take up a complaint with the entire world. People were looking to get offended. Well get offended then – it is your bloody choice – and then get over it. People have been talking about health for at least 2000 years we have popular fiction popular movies popular songs popular sayings about Hill and all of a sudden because somebody quotes a verse about people going to help everyone dropped their pants. Give me a break.

  181. Confused Old Misfit

    As I said, a second language (or the ability or desire to learn one) increases the range of options.
    Some of those US states are bloody cold for a long part of the year! And you had better like shovelling snow or have the wherewithal to pay someone to do it for you.

  182. None

    I suspect Richo will be dead before the year is out. I hope he makes his peace with god while he’s still is reasonably lucid. I won’t cry when he passes though. He’s a horrible horrible man.

  183. None

    I don’t have a Facebook account and I really don’t want one.

  184. Infidel Tiger

    Two $40mn lotto winners in Qld.

    A grateful nation says thank you!

  185. Leigh Lowe

    None

    #3053884, posted on June 26, 2019 at 12:24 am

    I’m too lazy to look up Izzy’s feed to find which version he quoted I know it was a bit of a paraphrase but here is a very popular version

    No, no.
    It. Doesn’t. Matter.
    I don’t care if he quoted the Bible, Magna Carta, Bruce Springsteen, Shakespeare, or a fucking Archie and Jughead comic.
    Unless he advocates actual physical violence, no probs. He can say what he likes.
    No splitting hairs about the precise wording, or which version of the Bible.

  186. Leigh Lowe

    Looks like Richo just emptied his colostomy bag onto an A4 page and sent it to the editor.

  187. I’m too lazy to look up Izzy’s feed to find which version he quoted I know it was a bit of a paraphrase but here is a very popular version

    Izzy quoted KJV
    Galatians 5:19-21, Acts 2:38, Acts 17:30
    Izzy preceded those with editorial of his own:

    Those that are living in Sin will end up in Hell unless you repent. Jesus Christ loves you and is giving you time to turn away from your sin and come to him.

  188. Izzy also attached an image, of a poster (or meme)
    The text:
    (I can’t centre it here, but otherwise each line is replicated)

    WARNING
    Drunks
    Homosexuals
    Adulterers
    Liars
    Fornicators
    Thieves
    Atheists
    Idolaters
    HELL
    AWAITS YOU

    REPENT!
    ONLY JESUS SAVES

  189. And that, fellow Cats, is the entire text content of the Instagram post for which he got sacked.

  190. And for which ANZ bank demanded his wife be “investigated for homophobia”

  191. JC

    Arefff must have known him. He was one of the reasons I read the Post. He was totally off his head.

    Steve Dunleavy, the hard-hitting, hard-drinking Australian who brought tabloid television journalism to America, has died at 81, leaving his colleagues to recount the stories that created a legend.

    With his feisty persona, Australian accent and impossibly coiffured hair, Dunleavy, who left school at 14 to be educated in the dog-eat-dog world of 1960s Sydney newspapers, became a household name in the US long before Greg Norman, Paul Hogan’s Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin.

    After landing in New York with $7 in his pocket, he was hired by Rupert Murdoch to write for the National Star and New York Post, before shooting to fame as a “whatever it takes” reporter for A Current Affair on the fledgling Fox network in the 1980s.

    “He was one of the greatest ­reporters of all time,” Mr Murdoch said yesterday. “Whether competing with his own father in the famous Sydney tabloid wars, or over the last 40 years in New York, Steve’s life story is littered with great scoops. He was much loved by both his colleagues and his editors. His passing is the end of a great era.”

    Dunleavy scored one of his biggest scoops — and luckiest breaks — in 1977 when he convinced three of Elvis Presley’s bodyguards to spill all about their boss’s bizarre eating habits and degenerating health.

    He cobbled together a book, Elvis: What Happened? Three days before publication, Elvis died. The Star serialised the book and put on a million sales in ­circulation.

    But it wasn’t just the exclusives that characterised Dunleavy; it was his hard-charging method — and his raffish charm. “I lost count of the number of times I posed as a cop, a public servant or a funeral director (to get a story),” he once said. He is also remembered for being run over by a snowplough while having sex outside a New York bar.

    His exploits, often fuelled by his favoured vodkas and tonic, ­inspired the mad reporter played by Robert Downey Jr in Oliver Stone’s 1994 movie Natural Born Killers.

    Such is the stuff of legends. They don’t make reporters like Dunleavy any more, and if they did, he would be howled down for his politically incorrect antics.

  192. BrettW

    Setka court date today.

    Liz Ellis back-pedalling fast (see SMH)

  193. For those who don’t have a KJV handy:
    Galatians 5:19-21

    Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these, adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

  194. Infidel Tiger

    He is also remembered for being run over by a snowplough while having sex outside a New York bar.

    What the hell?!

  195. Leigh Lowe

    Shit!
    Issy has got me on five separate counts.
    (Four if Mrs L should ask).

  196. Acts 2:38

    Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost

    Acts 17:30

    And the time of this ignorance of God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

  197. Leigh Lowe

    He is also remembered for being run over by a snowplough while having sex outside a New York bar.

    What the hell?!

    No biggy.
    Who hasn’t been snowploughed while shagging outside a bar?

  198. BrettW

    Folau missed out the witches !

  199. Izzy may be deserving of many things, but IMHO for that posting he is deserving of neither the sack, nor of being “unpersonned” by the entire journalist caste, & the SJW cohort.
    His wife shouldn’t even rate a mention, never mind have her career curtailed & be investigated for “homo-bluddee-phobia”

  200. Leigh Lowe

    Steve Dunleavy may have ticked off all of Issy’s checklist except the very one that everyone is pissed off about.

  201. Steve Dunleavy may have ticked off all of Issy’s checklist except the very one that everyone is pissed off about.

    Hopefully Mr. Dunleavy repented, and accepted Jesus’ love – then he’s home & hosed.

  202. old bloke

    Tintarella di Luna
    #3053754, posted on June 25, 2019 at 10:24 pm

    Liz Ellis’ fawning all over Bill Shorten during the election was absolutely sickening. I wonder what sinecure they offered her for getting on board. What a piece of work.

    Was Liz Ellis in charge of Netball Australia when they signed up all netball players to the AWU some years ago? I’m sure none of them knew that they were members, it was an exercise to increase the number of “members” to increase the AWU’s voting rights within the ALP.

  203. Perth Trader

    Twiggy Forrest must be laughing his head off. The prospect of buying RA for cents on the dollar if Izzy wins his case will make Twiggy smile.

  204. DrBeauGan

    The Izzy story is fabulous and cheers me up no end.

    Despite numbers liking Cuba, it’s actually very nice. There are beautiful old buildings, most in need of repair, and most of the people are friendly to foreigners. I use Google translate a fair bit. I now have slow but useable internet, I run the oppo with a Cubacell SIM card as a WiFi hotspot, and it mostly works.

    I sit in a local park, drink bottled water, smoke cigars and watch the children play. The little boys play soccer very seriously, and the little girls push each other around on skateboards, shrieking and laughing when they fall off. It’s all very healthy and normal, and good to see.

    Best of all, it’s pleasantly warm.

    And now it’s time for my siesta. 😁😀

  205. Tom

    Whose idea was it to leave Britain primeministerless for a month while the Tory party resolves its leadership crisis? (It reminds me of the ineptness of Tony Abbott). The Marxist state media monopoly is having a field day tearing PM-elect Boris Johnson to shreds. Christian Adams (London Evening Standard).

  206. Tom

    While Australia freezes, it’s the height of the Northern Hemisphere summer: time for some time off.

  207. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom. I appreciated the last one! It is 14:20 in Havana and a beautiful day. Despite numbers liking it, it’s a lovely place.

  208. Tom

    Beaugy, I’d be interested to know what websites are blocked by the communist gummint in Cuba.

  209. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3053912, posted on June 26, 2019 at 3:23 am

    I sit in a local park, drink bottled water, smoke cigars

    What?
    No diet coke?
    Good to hear you are having fun and enjoying yourself.

  210. DrBeauGan

    Tom
    #3053927, posted on June 26, 2019 at 4:25 am
    Beaugy, I’d be interested to know what websites are blocked by the communist gummint in Cuba.

    I haven’t found any so far, Tom, but then, I haven’t looked. I don’t mind trying anything you suggest.

    People here are reluctant to criticize the government. One of the good things about Oz is that nobody tries to stop you telling our government they are a bunch of incompetent arseholes.

  211. DrBeauGan

    What?
    No diet coke?

    I tried the diet coke. It tastes vile, Mark. No more than the one can while I’m in Cuba. From now on, it’s clean living for me.

    I did get propositioned by a very attractive looking chick in her twenties. She wanted money for her bambini, and showed me a picture of them on her phone. I told her I didn’t want her bambini, and she laughed. Then she enquired if we do fokky-fokky. I told her no, I was too fussy and also too old. She made muscle flexing gestures so I did an arm wrestle with her and let her win.
    Most of our communication was through gestures and Google translate, which doesn’t understand her Spanish any better than I do.

    I feel sorry for the poverty of some of them, but not sorry enough to pay for a fokky.

  212. And that, fellow Cats, is the entire text content of the Instagram post for which he got sacked.

    “LEST.WE.FORGET. (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine…)”

    And that, fellow Cats, is the entire text content of the Twitter post for which Yassmin Abdel-Magied received numerous death threats, was vilified and smeared in the MSM, and eventually forced to leaver the country.

  213. rickw

    And that, fellow Cats, is the entire text content of the Twitter post for which Yassmin Abdel-Magied received numerous death threats, was vilified and smeared in the MSM, and eventually forced to leaver the country.

    Liar.

  214. Mark A

    Jesus Ch. is there no end to the stubborn ignorance of some?

  215. classical_hero

    Brilliant bowling by the Australians.

  216. classical_hero

    Only for the 3rd time did the two opening bowlers take 9 wickets in an innings at the World Cup.

  217. Mark A

    received numerous death threats

    Then less than a year later she returned and lives openly, unharmed and hail ever since, not even stubbed her toes.
    (as far as I know not even had to change addresses, like Bolta ferstance)

    Can you say the same about S Rushdie?
    He is still in semi-hiding.
    Now that is a death threat one should respect.

    I cannot find an adjective strong enough to describe your vile despicable nature, ####s.

  218. DrBeauGan

    Numbers isn’t all bad, Mark. He likes Cuba.

    If he has any other redeeming features, I can’t think of them.

    Of course, he is quite capable of believing it is a socialist workers paradise, which it ain’t.

  219. egg_

    Yassmin Abdel-Magied received numerous death threats, was vilified and smeared in the MSM, and eventually forced to leaver the country.

    YAM’s trolling got the better of her, eh?

  220. egg_

    LEST.WE.FORGET ‘Nam, YAM?

  221. Peter Dutton’s been taking lying lessons from the Prince of Whales.*

    *AKA Fatty 5D

  222. DrBeauGan

    I can strongly recommend Cuba as a place to avoid Australian winters. It’s cheap, the cigars are good and a box of 25 costs $50 instead of $2,000. And the people are friendly.

    I bought three beautiful mangoes off a street seller for one dollar. That’s dinner, with the other half of a bottle of Sangre de Toro.

  223. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3053948, posted on June 26, 2019 at 6:02 am

    I bought three beautiful mangoes off a street seller for one dollar. That’s dinner, with the other half of a bottle of Sangre de Toro.

    Spanish original or same named local?

  224. DrBeauGan

    Spanish original, Mark. Imported.

  225. rickw

    $1,586,061.55 @ 6:00am

    Sent some more Israel’s way.

  226. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3053951, posted on June 26, 2019 at 6:09 am

    Spanish original, Mark. Imported.

    Living the good life, that’s the way.
    Locally (Austria) I can get it from $10 to $110 a bottle depending on vintage.

  227. Mark A

    TORRES
    Mas La Plana 2013 $110

  228. Mark A

    Make that $14 a bottle
    TORRES
    Coronas 2016 $14

  229. I bought three beautiful mangoes off a street seller for one dollar. That’s dinner, with the other half of a bottle of Sangre de Toro.

    Head south to Cienfuegos (World heritage region) and Trinidad Sancti Spiritus (beautiful $5 lobster) via Autopista Nacional.
    It’s about 4 1/2 hours on a dual carriageway built by the Russians.
    When you get to Jaguey Grande, stop and ask the locals about the Bay of Pigs.
    They love to describe how they routed the Yanquis.
    Since then, those same Yanquis, in a fit of pique which has lasted 58 years, have worked to destroy the Cuban economy.

  230. bespoke

    Numbers did serve and that’s a verified fact, just saying.

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