Tuesday Forum: June 25, 2019

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  1. DtjW

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3053663, posted on June 25, 2019 at 9:32 pm
    +
    Lilliana
    #3053822, posted on June 25, 2019 at 11:03 pm

    Thank you for articulating my feelings too. Despair and disgust have typified my view of Australia over the last few years but yesterday felt like a little victory of the silent majority. I hope it continues for all of our sakes.

  2. bespoke

    1735099
    #3053935, posted on June 26, 2019 at 5:25 am
    And that, fellow Cats

    And that, cyber people is I cringe at the words “Cat community”.

  3. Mark A

    DtjW
    #3053963, posted on June 26, 2019 at 6:38 am

    Thank you for articulating my feelings too. Despair and disgust have typified my view of Australia over the last few years

    We have problems, no doubt but that is a bit melodramatic.

    Australia is still a good place to live and we just have to be a bit more active to keep it that way.

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    Johannes Leak in the business section does Renato Mota CEO of IOOF. He really is a gifted caricaturist to do guys like Mr Mota so well and so fast.

  5. People here are reluctant to criticize the government.

    Ask them about their history (if you meet any English speakers).
    Generally, they are critical of both the Russians (who they believe dumped them after the fall of the Berlin wall) and the Yanks (whom they blame for the embargoes). Many saw a ray of hope after the Pope’s visit, and the slight opening up when Obama was there), but since Trump’s doubling down there’s a fair amount of despair again.
    I had many conversations with an English speaking ex-engineer who was preparing to work in a nuclear power plant built across the Bahia de Cienfuegos at Juragua. He spent 2 years in the USSR being trained. The project was almost completed but abandoned when the Russians withdrew support, so he was left jobless. He got work in the tourist industry, and makes a reasonable living.
    He was critical of both his government (says they are well-intentioned but naïve), and the Americans (Yanquis Estúpidos), but reserved most of his bile for the Rusos locos.
    I didn’t find anyone afraid to criticise the government.
    The only thing they seemed sensitive about was photographing military installations.
    Our driver got booked for speeding, but that seemed to go down in much the same way as it does here – Bored polite coppers (toting AK-47s instead of Glocks); pissed off driver who copped the fine, and lots of smiles and polite reassurance in Spanish for me not to worry.
    The driver was in a foul mood for the rest of the day…..

  6. MatrixTransform

    Numpty confecting outrage already?

    like the 8yo kid on AM radio yesterday having a sook because the local Hungry Jacks burnt down.

  7. bespoke

    Mark A
    #3053968, posted on June 26, 2019 at 6:56 am
    Australia is still a good place to live and we just have to be a bit more active to keep it that way.

    Easy for you to say living over sees and all. 😊but I agree

  8. bespoke

    Work calls. more vines to butcher.

  9. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3053969, posted on June 26, 2019 at 6:56 am
    Johannes Leak in the business section does Renato Mota CEO of IOOF. He really is a gifted caricaturist to do guys like Mr Mota so well and so fast.

    Mota an odd fellow?

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thank you for articulating my feelings too. Despair and disgust have typified my view of Australia over the last few years

    We have problems, no doubt but that is a bit melodramatic.

    Maybe the Lowy poll* will return you to the D&D…

    In other results:

    climate change is rated highest among the threats to Australia’s vital interests. Nearly two thirds (64%) rated it as a “critical threat”, up six points since last year and 18 points since 2014.

    Australians’ feelings sour towards China: Lowy poll

    Never have so many been hoodwinked by so few. Tom’s Pat Cross cartoon upthread is utterly true.

    * In the Oz as a story by Michael Fullilove which I won’t attempt to link.

  11. Despair and disgust have typified my view of Australia over the last few years

    Only when I read Catallaxy.
    But the shits n giggles make up for it…………

  12. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    Conventional wisdom does not regard Communism with the same abhorrence as fascism, even though if you want to be an accountant about it and add up the skulls of the dead, you will find that the Communists murdered many more people than the fascists did, began murdering before fascists came to power and carried on murdering after the fascists had gone. Yet few can bring themselves to see fascism and Communism as moral equivalents.

    — Nick Cohen

  13. Gab

    $1.6mil already.

    And Trump is still President.

    Glorious day.

  14. Mark A

    Gab
    #3053981, posted on June 26, 2019 at 7:20 am

    $1.6mil already.

    And Trump is still President.

    Glorious day.

    Yes, but what about the bay of piggies 58 years ago?

    Never forget that, or conscription 51 years ago. Horrible places both the US and OZ.

  15. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers, are you in Gippsland today?

    Bizarre creature washed up on Australian beach, stuns locals

    Cosy Seaside Escape posted photos of the strange-looking marine animal to Facebook after it “came out to sunbake” on Golden Beach in the state’s Gippsland region over the weekend.

    The odd-looking animal is actually a catshark.

  16. It’s worth looking at the Helms-Burton Act passed by the 104th United States Congress on March 6, 1996 and enacted into law by Bill Clinton on March 12, 1996, to understand how comprehensively the Land of the Free has screwed the Cubans because they had the temerity to have a Communist government.
    This law includes a wide variety of provisions intended to bring about “a peaceful transition to a representative democracy and market economy in Cuba”:
    From Wikipaedia –

    International Sanctions against the Cuban Government. Economic embargo, any non-U.S. company that deals economically with Cuba can be subjected to legal action and that company’s leadership can be barred from entry into the United States. Sanctions may be applied to non-U.S. companies trading with Cuba. This means that internationally operating companies have to choose between Cuba and the U.S., which is a much larger market.
    United States opposition against Cuban membership in International Financial Institutions.
    Television broadcasting from the United States to Cuba.
    Authorization of United States support for “democratic and human rights groups” and international observers.
    Declares United States policy towards a “transition government” and a “democratically elected government” in Cuba.
    Protection of property rights of certain United States nationals.
    Exclusion of certain aliens from the United States, primarily senior officials or major stock holders, and their families, of companies that do business in Cuba on property expropriated from American citizens. To date, executives from Italy, Mexico, Canada, Israel, and the United Kingdom have been barred.
    Provides power to the Legislative Branch to override an Executive Branch cancellation of the embargo, although such a legislative veto had been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court 13 years earlier.
    Prohibits the completion of the Juragua Nuclear Power Plant.[a][b]
    Prompts for the retirement of former Soviet Union personnel out of Cuban military and intelligence facilities, including the military and intelligence facilities at Lourdes and Cienfuegos.[a][c][6]
    Prohibits recognition of a transitional government in Cuba that includes Fidel or Raúl Castro.[a]
    Prohibits recognition of a Cuban government that has not provided compensation for U.S. certified claims against confiscated property, defined as non-residential property with an excess of $50,000 value in 1959.
    Prompts for extradition or otherwise rendition to the United States of all persons sought by the United States Department of Justice for crimes committed in the United States.

    This law is in the best tradition of US interference in Latin American politics, something that has been going on for centuries because of the nature of domestic US paranoia.

  17. stackja

    Private angry about many things.

  18. Gab

    Must be a day ending in ‘y’.

  19. Lilliana

    Mark A
    #3053968, posted on June 26, 2019 at 6:56 am

    …. Despair and disgust have typified my view of Australia over the last few years

    We have problems, no doubt but that is a bit melodramatic.

    No I don’t think so. Despair and disgust pretty well sums up my view as well.

    Every day there is more leftist propaganda, more capitulation and more appeasement. At first the social engineering was low key now it is full on, in your face. Look at the media, TV, large corporations, advertisements, social media etc.

  20. feelthebern

    Bruce, that looks more like monty…

  21. Mark A

    Lilliana
    #3056158, posted on June 26, 2019 at 7:37 am
    Every day there is more leftist propaganda, more capitulation and more appeasement. At first the social engineering was low key now it is full on, in your face. Look at the media, TV, large corporations, advertisements, social media etc.

    And yet the little men and women come through, and I can’t see IF losing his case in court.
    I also have near certainty that C P will be exonerated and return to duty.

    Giving up in despair is not yet in my vocab.

  22. Robby

    https://tinyurl.com/y68c747d

    Australian Christian Lobby to be investigated by charity watchdog.

    This whole saga has a long way to play out.

  23. feelthebern

    I try to keep all trust structures out of my smsf as I like to get my tax in quick smart.
    This year will be my biggest refund ever, but I stupidly have an investment in my smsf that I wont get my June 30 statement until Sept/Oct.
    This means I wont get my money back until Nov at the earliest.
    Sigh.

  24. It's Remarkable

    Testing to see if I am out of moderation – Hello world

  25. feelthebern

    That’s ok Robby.
    As long as they take as long as VicPol to investigate S&G/Gillard etc.

  26. feelthebern

    If you run an smsf & this year you didn’t add another fvck ton from franking credits, you really need to have good hard look at yourself.

  27. Robby

    Martin Iles now on Ch7 being interviewed by Koch-Head. Had legal advice before hosting the fund raising and thinks ACL will be OK. Making a good case for Easy.

  28. Bruce of Newcastle

    DrB your lady friend will not be unhappy I think. She’s probably off to the docks…

    Is this the REAL reason Putin sent Russia’s best warship to Cuba?

    US OFFICIALS were put on high alert yesterday when one of the Russian Navy’s most advanced warships entered Cuba’s Havana Harbour in a chilling resemblance of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    The Admiral Gorshkov – one of Russia’s top military assets – docked in Havana armed with cruise missiles and air defence systems that could hit the US in six minutes. With an American warship watching on from just a few miles away, many noted that the situation mirrored the 1962 crisis, where Soviet warships headed for the island but were stopped by a US blockade. With tensions ramping up between Moscow and Washington, President Vladimir Putin may be set to rejuvenate his country’s relationship with one of America’s most traditional adversaries.

    What’s ‘hello sailor’ in Russian?

  29. Mark A

    Robby
    #3057591, posted on June 26, 2019 at 7:53 am

    Martin Iles now on Ch7 being interviewed by Koch-Head. Had legal advice before hosting the fund raising and thinks ACL will be OK. Making a good case for Easy.

    If, for any reason there is trouble with the ACL, I forecast a 10Mil donation tsunami following, on whatever platform.

  30. Leigh Lowe

    Australian Christian Lobby to be investigated by charity watchdog.

    This whole saga has a long way to play out

    Beat up.
    It says the Charity Commission “has been asked to investigate”.
    Doesn’t say by who.
    It then lists a boilerplate compliance statement which is kind of meant to imply ACL is in breach, but it doesn’t actually say that.
    Anyhow, that is fine, because if ACL is in breach for this, imagine where Greenpeace etc are with using charity funds for all sorts of lobbying and “research”.

  31. stackja

    Cory Bernardi on 2GB. His profile still being kept low.

  32. feelthebern

    Trump flushes out another deep state actor.

    John Sanders Resigns as Head of Customs and Border Protection

    The acting head of the main agency tasked with policing the U.S. border is resigning, becoming another key official to depart the immigration apparatus of the Trump administration.

    As if the administration would have had coast to coast round up’s of illegals all on the same day.
    It would have been a public relations atom bomb.
    The deep state leakers took it hook, line & sinker telling all their pals in the media.
    Another deep statey flushed out.
    Still waiting for the Iran situation to result in a few hawks being flushed.

  33. Mother Lode

    I see Richo’s flawed-logic article as a threat to Israel.
    Hints abound, especially with the statement Personally, I am having real difficulty believing that Folau is such a perfect human being that he has never succumbed to any of the devil’s wide range of temptations. Talking about Folau not being put up for canonisation is taking bitterness to crazy levels.

    I don’t think Izzy ever pretended to be perfect. If you had to be perfect to encourage penitence and faith then there would be no human alive entitled to do it.

    Now, he would be aware of what flawed pathetic people politicians are (a moment of introspection should make that abundantly clear) but he has never suggested they therefore have no right to to speak on right and wrong – and those buggers’ laws then are imposed by force while Izzy just wrote an Instagram post.

    So we must take it that he only says this because Izzy is a Christian exhorting people to live as a Christian. And this, once again, like the self-pleasuring scribbling of Pirate Pete, is yet another example of someone who thinks they understand Christianity but inadvertently reveal that they do not.

    Taking an extreme example, imagine a priest who has a bad drinking habit. And this same priest recognises that it is a bad thing, that he is abusing the free will God has given him by addling his wits, knows the money could be better spent, that the Bible says being an inebriate is bad. This priest then encourages other people not to drink and cites the reasons given above. Isn’t he in a very good position to warn and advise people?

    A person with a vice who deplores it as a vice is proclaiming virtue.

    We don’t need to be riddled with vices to proclaim virtue – it is not the only way – but a vice by itself does not disqualify someone from proclaiming virtue.

    Richo gave us the ‘whatever it takes’ line. Well I have difficulty reassuring myself that I can take anything he says as true rather than a means toward some other purpose of his.

  34. feelthebern

    I have my finger on the button.
    If Bolton goes, I am out of all oil positions quick smart.
    Twitter alerts.
    Google alerts.
    Bloomberg alerts.
    All in place.

  35. Leigh Lowe

    Who is the Minister responsible for the Charities Commission?
    Might be time to pre-emptively rattle his/her/ze cage.

  36. Notafan

    Assume that someone thinks that ACL is ‘providing a private benefit to a member’.

    Hopefully Israel Folau isn’t a member.

  37. Mark A

    Mother Lode
    #3057598, posted on June 26, 2019 at 8:02 am

    I don’t think Izzy ever pretended to be perfect. If you had to be perfect to encourage penitence and faith then there would be no human alive entitled to do it.

    So, according to Richo, a reformed alcoholic is not fit to speak about the evil of alcohol abuse?

  38. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘temerity to have a Communist government’

    Not really. For having a government that said it would be just dandy to have Russian nuclear missiles on their turf and a decent 2 iron away from US territory. Like having the Indos (if they had missiles) on the Tiwi Islands.

    This blog is beginning to run out of people who haven’t brought Four leaf Tayback down in a screaming heap of disappear-then-change-the-subject. Another pearler last night.

  39. feelthebern

    Here’s a note to everyone in a position of power.
    Don’t fvck with peoples jobs or their right to work.
    Perception is reality.
    Just ask John Howard that re Work Choices.

  40. Tintarella di Luna

    Apparently Liz Ellis’ problem is with the bosses not with Maria Folau — oh really? so her problem is that the bosses did not SACK Maria Folau, that’s her problem, Oh I see , that is clear now. The article in the Australia has no comments I see. Liz Ellis is now feeling the heat of ill will for her attack on Maria Folau and hasn’t done herself any favours in this article trying to walk her vileness back. She really is a piece of work.

    What a disgrace — no-one supports the hatred of people who are homosexual, and corporations, sponsors and some large employers in thrall to their woke SJWs in their HR, PR and media departments have gone and are now going over and above with their support to the extent that they now think they have 24/7 ownership over the mind, body and souls of shareholders, players, and employees.

    The pushback is on and Liz Ellis has now realised that wokeness leads to brokeness because let’s remember she’s on the speaking circuit and her bigotry agains a Polynesian brilliant Christian woman is out there for all to see. Here is the article:

    Former champion netballer Liz Ellis has retreated from a Twitter attack on Maria Folau in which she suggested the Adelaide Thunderbirds star wasn’t welcome in the sport over her support for husband Israel.

    Writing in Nine’s Sydney Morning Herald today, Ellis insists her “beef” was not with “mesmerising” netballer Maria, but with the game’s bosses who refused swiftly to condemn homophobia.

    Former Silver Ferns Vice-Captain Maria, who married Israel in 2017, has been internationally condemned after reposting her husband’s appeal for donations in his legal battle with Rugby Australia.

    After Netball Australia and South Australia threw their support behind Maria saying no action was required as she was not in contravention of their social media policy, Ellis tweeted: “Yeah nah not good enough … There is no room for homophobia in our game. Anyone who is seen to support or endorse homophobia is not welcome.”

    View image on Twitter
    View image on Twitter

    Liz Ellis

    @LizzyLegsEllis
    Yeah nah not good enough.
    How about this:
    There is no room for homophobia in our game. Anyone who is seen to support or endorse homophobia is not welcome. As much as I love watching ⁦@MariaFolau⁩ play netball I do not want my sport endorsing the views of her husband.

    7,966
    3:24 PM – Jun 23, 2019
    3,160 people are talking about this
    Twitter Ads info and privacy
    The post caused its own storm with over 1500 comments and writing today, an apologetic Ellis concedes: “Firstly, my beef was not with Maria Folau. Of course she is welcome to play in Super Netball. She is one of the most mesmerising, enigmatic and skilful goal attacks ever to play our game … Just because Maria is married to a man who publicly states things that cause huge controversy, and that many people (myself included) find abhorrent, doesn’t mean that she has to answer for him.

    “Until, of course, she re-posted something that is clearly related to those views.”

    Ellis, who retired in 2007, goes on to stress her “real beef” is that Netball Australia and the Adelaide Thunderbirds should have moved more quickly and been stronger in their condemnation of homophobia.

    “They could have given Maria her slap on the wrist, but combined it with something so much stronger. To say without equivocation, without weasel words, that homophobia is not welcome in our sport. To me, it was a lost opportunity to say to LGBTQI players, both in the league and in the suburbs, that they are welcome, they are wanted and they are supported.”

    The ANZ Bank, which sponsors both the Silver Ferns and New Zealand’s netball league, has said it does not support Maria’s views. A spokesman said it had expressed these concerns to Netball NZ, and that the company would continue to support the sport.

    After the fundraising website GoFundMe took down Folau’s original appeal for $3 million to help his legal fight, the Australian Christian Lobby yesterday took up his appeal, raising over $1.5m in just over 24 hours.

    In separate statements yesterday Netball SA and Netball Australia said while they did not endorse Maria’s reposting, they would continue to support her “as a valued member of the Thunderbirds and the Suncorp Super Netball league.”

    Silver Ferns head coach Noeline Taurua also threw her support behind her star shooter, insisting the player had “done nothing wrong”.

    “I have no concerns with her place in the team from a performance perspective. There’s no reason why [she shouldn’t be there] from a performance perspective,” she said.

  41. Knuckle Dragger

    By they way, Mole’s ‘nothing to see here’ clip posted yesterday is one of the great moments in cinematic history.

  42. Notafan

    Richo also thinks if he makes a good confession on his deathbed he goes straight to heaven.

    He is taking a mighty big chance there (we don’t know the hour or the day)and even as a lapsed Catholic should know he might miss the express ride.

  43. Tintarella di Luna

    Here’s a note to everyone in a position of power.
    Don’t fvck with peoples jobs or their right to work.
    Perception is reality.
    Just ask John Howard that re Work Choices.

    Where’s the opprobrium against that creature from the black lagoon who cost the job of a storeman because he called her a slut on Facebook. He was tracked down and his employer was leaned on to sack him. And she was lauded and applauded by the ABC for her ‘courage’. So there you have it.

  44. feelthebern

    Liz Ellis wins today’s Logic Pretzel award.

  45. feelthebern

    My uber driver this morning wanted to talk about Izzy when it came on the radio.
    As he looked Bondi Hipster I thought here we go.
    But he was all for freedom of speech.
    5 stars that man.
    Plus a tip.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    So, according to Richo, a reformed alcoholic is not fit to speak about the evil of alcohol abuse?

    Or, perhaps, is a bloke with no arsehole not allowed to be an arsehole?

  47. Notafan

    Liz Ellis is a piece of work.

    Condemnation of sinful behaviour is not homophobia.

    Christianity hasn’t changed, will never change despite what the Liz Elliss, devout Catholics and others want.

    They are going to have to accept that Christianity is not going to move homosexual acts into the unsin column.

    Something they are going to have to live with no matter how much it hurts feelings.

    I’m pleased Triggs turns out to be a bit human after all.

    A bridge too far even for her.

  48. Tintarella di Luna

    Australian Christian Lobby to be investigated by charity watchdog.

    Set up by the Gillard government

  49. stackja

    Mum’s mission to change school religion classes

    This Brisbane lawyer turned stay at home mum is on a mission to change the way religion is taught in Queensland state schools — something that hasn’t been done for more than a century.
    Sarah Matthews, The Courier-Mail
    Subscriber only

    June 25, 2019 6:24pm

    Mother of two and spokesperson for the Queensland Parents for Secular State Schools (QPSSS) Alison Courtice said she was shocked to find the Religious Instruction (RI) program taught at Windsor State School hadn’t changed since she went to the same primary school as a child, which she discovered after sitting in on her daughter Lauren’s Year Five class.

    Currently, Queensland legislation allows volunteers from religious groups, the majority of which are Christian, to enter state schools for up to an hour a week to teach faith instruction.

    However, Ms Courtice has started a petition which has since gained almost 1600 signatures demanding legislation be changed to take religion out of state schools.

    “In 1910 they (the government at the time) removed every reference in the Education Act to the word secular,” Ms Courtice said.

    “We don’t have the word secular in our Education Act anymore, and I want to put it back.”

  50. Tintarella di Luna

    So, according to Richo, a reformed alcoholic is not fit to speak about the evil of alcohol abuse?

    Or, perhaps, is a bloke with no arsehole not allowed to be an arsehole?

    Or comment on some forms of homosexuality.

  51. None

    People I wanted to look at the Daily Telegraph front page where it has the headline about ANZ narrating Maria Folau and it has the words ‘nosey zealot’. If you read the actual item those words in do not appear anywhere. The Daily Telegraph is really being underhanded.

  52. stackja

    Former top cop John McRoberts set to go free from home detention

    DISGRACED NT Police Chief Commissioner John McRoberts will again be free to come and go from his rented Cullen Bay home as his 12-month home detention order comes to an end
    JASON WALLS, NT News
    Subscriber only

    June 25, 2019 8:30pm

    DISGRACED former NT Police Chief Commissioner John McRoberts will again be free to come and go from his rented Cullen Bay home from Wednesday as his 12-month home detention order comes to an end.

    McRoberts was released into home detention just before Christmas after serving almost seven months of a three-year jail sentence for attempting to pervert the course of justice.

    The former top cop was found guilty by a jury last May in one of the Territory’s most high profile court cases in recent memory after trying to “frustrate” or “deflect” a fraud investigation into his travel agent girlfriend Xana Kamitsis.

  53. Tintarella di Luna

    The Federal Minister responsible for the Australian Charities and Non-Profits Commission is the Assistant Minister for Treasury and Finance, Senator the Hon Zed Seselja. – a sensible chap when I last looked

  54. None

    If you have commenting rights at the Sydney Morning Herald you should post under Liz Ellis is Article that Gillian Triggs disagrees with her and say the same to any supercilious, to be presumed to know anything about izzys contract.

  55. Leigh Lowe

    Australian Christian Lobby to be investigated by charity watchdog.

    Set up by the Gillard government

    The weasel words in the report :-

    A number of complainants, however, have confirmed that they have raised their concerns with the charities commission over the fundraising role played by the ACL.

    There is a button on the ACNC website to “raise a concern”.
    That is all that has happened.
    The Minister is, I think, Zed Seselja.

  56. Mark A

    Nothing like a scare to accelerate donation, it picked up again.

  57. Johno

    Bubbles
    #3053579, posted on June 25, 2019 at 8:36 pm

    Having spent more than I can afford to support Izzy; I have reflected upon what inspired me to do so.
    A random thought took me back to Duntroon; marching around the ‘Square’ at an ungodly hour in the sleet because some bully objected to me inviting him to meet me behind the wood heap and invoked ‘Offenses against good order and military discipline’.
    I thought that this kind of totalitarian shit had died. Nope. It has (bureaubabble warning) tramsmografied.
    Sporting Nazis FFS now invoke this fetid bullshit even when it has been banned in the military. Is this a sign of our degradation.
    And: Toowoomba coward: I was involved in the great South East Asia fuckup in the same year as you. It was horrid; but nothing that you say is true. I don’t remember you at school at Toowoomba, nor during our year in SVN – but boychick you are delusional.
    Mrs Bubbles objects to my refusal to attend Duntroon reunions, but my view was that all of that crap was dead. Stupid me.

    Well said Bubbles. To good to leave on the other page.

  58. Knuckle Dragger

    There were days, not so long ago when rampant poofery was frowned upon by polite society. So much so that there were laws against it, and anything to do with it. It could even be claimed without too much effrontery that pooves were discriminated against.

    Those days are not only gone, but long gone. Not one person in this country can claim today that they have been adversely treated in the workplace or the sporting world because being told to eat a bag of dicks isn’t an insult to them.

    Despite having a sky-high domestic violence rate and some of the rankest predilections known to mankind (look up ‘bug chasing’ – I wish I hadn’t) being a poove is no longer a condemnation, largely because the world is a nicer place in some circles.

    But the pendulum has swung too far. I tolerate homos. If they want to be homos, they can be homos. Great. But I’m not going to celebrate it, as is demanded by the elites, who are disproportionately pooves themselves. It’s like everyone waking up one morning and finding out rangas must be revered, and nothing they can do is wrong. That is a world I no longer wish to live in.

  59. Bruce of Newcastle

    However, Ms Courtice has started a petition which has since gained almost 1600 signatures demanding legislation be changed to take religion out of state schools.

    So she’s also in favour of removing climate change, aboriginal mysticism and Marxism from schools since they are all religions? Excellent!

  60. stackja

    Colorado mountains see nearly 20 inches of snow on first day of summer

    Some areas of Colorado celebrated the first day of summer on Friday… with nearly two feet of snow.

    Snow markers at the Steamboat Resort show the snow piling up to almost 20 inches of snow throughout the day on Friday to the area, which is around 6,900 feet above sea level.

    The resort in Steamboat Springs, located roughly 155 miles northwest of Denver, dubbed the strange weather event a “summer snow-stice.” KCNC-TV shared photos of the snow slowly piling up on Friday.

    A winter weather advisory was in effect until Sunday morning, but by then, the resort on Facebook welcomed back the sunshine and the 60-degree weather that was forecast for the area.

    The town is supposed to see highs of 82 degrees this week, according to the National Weather Service.

  61. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘boychick’

    Brilliant!

  62. C.L.

    Academic psychologist puzzled at why heterosexual women want to date somebody with a cock and balls and why heterosexual men want to date a woman with a vagina and stuff.

    New research explores the extent to which trans people are excluded from dating.

    Via Ace.

  63. Tintarella di Luna

    Johannes Leak in the business section does Renato Mota CEO of IOOF. He really is a gifted caricaturist to do guys like Mr Mota so well and so fast.

    He looks like my favourite DIY guy Adam Dovile’s cousin

  64. C.L.

    Academic psychologist puzzled at why heterosexual women want to date somebody with a cock and why heterosexual men want to date a woman with a vagina and stuff.

    New research explores the extent to which trans people are excluded from dating.

    Via Ace.

  65. Notafan

    Yassmin was back in Australia a couple of months after the grand exit, which was months after the furore anyhow.

    No Rushdie immediate hiding credible fear of life likeness at all.

    If someone pays her to come back for a writer’s festival or anything else she is back and strutting .
    My daughter saw her on the street in Fitzroy iirc not long after the exodus and was surprised, then not surprised.

    She lost her gig at the ABC, Shell refuses to extend her lwop so she didn’t have that to fall back on, and she went looking for work overseas.

    She was flying around to a few international speaking engagements, don’t know what she is doing now. Last I saw it was vids on how to tie a turban.

    In other words there was no fleeing for her life, not even Yassmin claimed that, it’s a whole cloth lie from the devout Catholic.

  66. Up The Workers!

    Numbers did serve whom…and that’s a verified question, just asking.

  67. Mother Lode

    How many drunks, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters have contributed to Izzy’s fund?

    Not offended – they have heard this sort of stuff before and know that the people saying it won’t harm a hair on your head but will help you whenever you are in need (so long as you don’t need them to help you get drunk, commit adultery etc) – but recognising that the only person actually attacked here is Izzy.

    And the gay lobby wonders why they are still treated with contempt and mockery.

    They’re so gay.

  68. Notafan

    Post Op trans people are voluntarily sterile, mental messes and fakes, might be an issue.

  69. dover_beach

    CL is on the money re Richo’s very old boilerplate.

  70. mh

    Mark Latham with Alan Jones this morning. Includes discussion on the PM refusing to defend the rights of Christians.

    https://www.2gb.com/the-alan-jones-breakfast-show-podcasts/

  71. Leigh Lowe

    People I wanted to look at the Daily Telegraph front page where it has the headline about ANZ narrating Maria Folau and it has the words ‘nosey zealot’. If you read the actual item those words in do not appear anywhere. 

    Look at the actual page.
    Using the ANZ logo, it says:-
    Another
    Nosy
    Zealot
    Haven’t read the article, but that looks to be a broadside at ANZ.

  72. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #3057621, posted on June 26, 2019 at 8:20 am
    People I wanted to look at the Daily Telegraph front page where it has the headline about ANZ narrating Maria Folau and it has the words ‘nosey zealot’. If you read the actual item those words in do not appear anywhere. The Daily Telegraph is really being underhanded.”

    Which is why I am so glad I cancelled by subscription…I am paid up till next Sunday so last night I looked at the online front page….and there you have it…the muck words “nosey zealot”. Oh well….money talks…the woman on the phone on Monday morning tried to talk me out of it….she wasn’t happy.

  73. Farmer Gez

    Vic government has joined NSW in banning mobile phones in schools.
    Phones must be kept in lockers according the Edu Min James Molino.

    Good luck enforcing that. The girls put them in their pants to smuggle them into classes.
    General frisking anyone?
    Unenforceable under current, “don’t touch me” rules.

  74. dover_beach

    Academic psychologist puzzled at why heterosexual women want to date somebody with a cock and why heterosexual men want to date a woman with a vagina and stuff.

    Don’t leave us waiting for an answer.

  75. Top Ender

    Get your message in now!

    From the Oz’s Strewth column main editor:

    Another door opens

    And while we’re in Pyne territory: a small note. I’ll soon be departing this space to write speeches for Pyne’s old sparring partner, Anthony Albanese. But we still have a day or two together, so you’ve got time to get complaints or otherwise in!

    [email protected]

  76. Fred

    Looks like Liz Ellis gets her inspiration from North Korea.

    Don’t just execute the dissident. Execute his entire family too.

  77. EvilElvis

    It’s about time we had legislation that combines freedom of speech and mass banning of social media. A lot of people just can’t handle these modern day gifts.

    And a lot less stupidity arises when you have to look someone in the face to argue a point, most people aren’t combative by nature.

  78. Mark A

    Sorry, what tragedy,

    Fire rips through house on Brittliffe Cl, Singleton
    Nick Hansen and Mitchell Van Homrigh, The Daily Telegraph
    3 minutes ago

    Three children have died in a house fire in the Hunter region overnight.

    Neighbours heard a woman screaming as the fire ripped through the housing commission home on Brittliffe Close, Singleton about 3.30am today.

    A young boy was found dead inside the home after fire crews arrived to extinguish the blaze. Two little girls were rushed to Singleton Hospital where they were pronounced dead. Police have not yet been able to confirm the ages of the three children.

    If there is anything I fear is fire.
    Specially bc. of my workplace on occasions.

  79. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie, what did the body of the article say?
    The headline looked to me like a whack at ANZ.

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’ll soon be departing this space to write speeches for Pyne’s old sparring partner, Anthony Albanese.

    So when will the Left start chanting Albo is a puppet of Mudrock666?

  81. Leigh Lowe

    One thing I have discovered that throws lefty anti-Christian trolls on soshul meeja.
    Tell them you forgive them, bless them and are praying for them.
    They either go nuts or go vewwy, vewwy quiet.

  82. mh

    Izzy fundraiser is now getting harder to find in a google search, so here it is again

    https://www.acl.org.au/donate_izzy

  83. John Constantine

    It isn’t mafia collusion, but word around vicco saleyards is that two of the largest meatworks will shut down for upgrades and maintenance at the same time in July.

    Supply and demand.

    Will less bidders mean cheaper supermarket prices, or higher margins for the processors remaining in the market?.

    Or will chicom pig plague demand outweigh even the good old winter shutdown trick?.

  84. stackja

    mh
    #3057659, posted on June 26, 2019 at 8:56 am
    Izzy fundraiser is now getting harder to find in a google search, so here it is again

    https://www.acl.org.au/donate_izzy

    Yes! Bookmark it!

  85. stackja

    $1,657,619.00 raised

  86. cohenite

    But it wasn’t just the exclusives that characterised Dunleavy; it was his hard-charging method — and his raffish charm. “I lost count of the number of times I posed as a cop, a public servant or a funeral director (to get a story),” he once said. He is also remembered for being run over by a snowplough while having sex outside a New York bar.

    What a guy. Some say having sex is like being run over but this guy did it.

  87. Mark A

    mh
    #3057659, posted on June 26, 2019 at 8:56 am

    Izzy fundraiser is now getting harder to find in a google search, so here it is again

    https://www.acl.org.au/donate_izzy

    Interesting as it picked up in volume.

    ‘———————-
    $$$ Time
    $1,657,619.00 raised 8.59
    $1,655,022.00 raised 8.55
    $1,647,453.00 raised 8.44
    $1,642,488.00 raised 8.38
    $1,636,148.00 raised 8.23
    $1,633,958.00 raised 8.19
    $1,631,448.00 raised 8.14
    $1,619,888.91 raised 7.51
    $1,616,247.91 raised 7.45
    $1,610,291.91 raised 7.32
    $1,588,611.55 raised 6.23
    $1,586,401.55 raised 6.13
    $1,580,751.00 raised 5.50
    $1,576,246.00 raised 5.10
    $1,575,126.00 raised 4.54
    $1,574,126.00 raised 4.40
    $1,572,485.00 raised 4.12
    $1,568,955.00 raised 4.02

  88. Leigh Lowe

    Izzy fundraiser is now getting harder to find in a google search, so here it is again

    Same tactic Monday.
    I notice that some media outlets had 2 or 3 stories on the GFM page, with a total of 12 or 15.
    Google then push the actual GFM page down in search results so that it is harder to find.
    The opening of other GFM pages in opposition but using Izzy’s name has the same effect.
    Makes you wonder when some boychick (h/t KD) who has raised $100 in two days and clearly has no traffic appears before a million dollar campaign.

  89. mh

    My local ANZ has a large Polynesian man inside the door directing customers to the appropriate person for their enquiry. May be worth asking who do I give feedback to regarding the ANZ witch-hunt against the Folau family.

  90. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Birth for IZIZ teen after dash to safety

    Exclusive
    Paul Maley
    NATIONAL SECURITY EDITOR
    @paul_maley
    12:00AM June 26, 2019

    The 18-year-old daughter of Australian [email protected]@rist Khaled Sharrouf has given birth to her third child barely 24 hours after being ­spirited out of Zyria.

    Zaynab Sharrouf, one of eight Australian children evacuated from refugee camps in northern Zyria over the weekend, gave birth to a girl on Monday night, Australian time.

    The birth followed the reunion in Iraq of Zaynab and her two siblings with their grandmother, Karen Nettleton of Sydney. Authorities had been reluctant to move the 18-year-old before the birth for fear she might go into labour during the drive from a refugee camp in northern Zyria.

    From the Oz. Such a touching sorry, donchathink?

  91. mh

    When Alan Jones does his Sky News show he should have the fundraising link permanently on screen throughout the entire show.

  92. Shy Ted

    Academic psychologist puzzled at why heterosexual women want to date somebody with a cock and why heterosexual men want to date a woman with a vagina and stuff.
    Here’s a thought for the gummint – when someone proposes or produces their first piece of bullshit research they lose all access to future research funding and as there’s no research to be done there jobs go.

  93. BrettW

    WTF ! Page 2 of Oz.

    85% of new jobs (364,00) in last year were in the public sector !

    Venezuela here we come.

  94. Knuckle Dragger

    Yerg.

    Attention sandblasters.

    Miranda Devine needs a complete refurb.

  95. Graham

    I have just lodged my on-line complaint at ANZ’s website pointing out that I am appalled by ANZ’s media release about Maria Folau. I pointed out to them that I have been a customer of the bank for many decades and that I will take my business elsewhere.

    Corporations that go “woke” need to suffer the customer push back. It takes only a minute or two to do an online complaint. It is well worth the effort.

    The ANZ at least make it easy to lodge on line complaints.

  96. Dr Faustus

    Sharp as a fox, Liz Ellis smells commentary career damage:

    Apparently her “beef” is with Netball Australia and the Thunderbirds – not Maria Falou.
    No, no, no.

    I understand that my tweet was interpreted to mean specifically that Maria was not welcome. I get it. It was poorly worded from that point of view. I am devastated to think that the way I wrote it may have suggested the sort of bigotry that I passionately dislike. I don’t want to fight bigotry with bigotry.

    Only stupid, bigotty people, people who didn’t understand how passionately Aussie Liz hates bigotry, would have interpreted her tweet as specifically suggesting Mz Folau wasn’t welcome in netball.

    Yeah nah not good enough.
    How about this:
    There is no room for homophobia in our game. Anyone who is seen to support or endorse homophobia is not welcome. As much as I love watching ⁦@MariaFolau⁩ play netball I do not want my sport endorsing the views of her husband.

    Yeah nah not good enough.

  97. Leigh Lowe

    I watched the Koch-head interview with Martin Iles and thought it was OK.
    Koch-head asked a few questions but didn’t go attack dog.
    He even went to … “Would we treat a Mislum footballer the same way?”

  98. Leigh Lowe:

    It gives a feeling of strength to know that there are tens of thousands out there who feel exactly the same way.

    It is surprising, isn’t it?
    And yet, so obvious.
    There are millions of us, but it’s like herding cats to get us organised.
    But that’s one of our virtues – we organise on the basis of individuals, not tribes.

  99. Leigh Lowe

    Ellis wanted Maria Folau fired.
    Pure and simple.
    The blowback has been something to behold and Lizzie is now trying to save her own job.
    Does she still do product endorsements.

  100. None

    Good on you Graham. I also wrote to ANZ and told them what I thought is there bullying of Maria Folau. Unfortunately or maybe fortunately I am not a customer but I certainly will never be. What is ironic is that the ANZ has been in the papers for two to three years about their bully culture and only in recent days sacked their CEO in New Zealand for some financial or something Shenanigans and replaced him with the female deputy. Perhaps they should clean house before they stick their nose in elsewhere.

  101. Geriatric Mayfly

    The 18-year-old daughter of Australian [email protected]@rist Khaled Sharrouf has given birth to her third child barely 24 hours after being ­spirited out of Zyria.

    They blow up quickly these veiled ones.

  102. None

    Good on you Graham. I also wrote to ANZ and told them what I thought iof their bullying of Maria Folau. Unfortunately or maybe fortunately I am not a customer but I certainly will never be. What is ironic is that the ANZ has been in the papers for two to three years about their bully culture and only in recent days sacked their CEO in New Zealand for some financial or something shenanigans and replaced him with the female deputy. Perhaps they should clean house before they stick their nose in elsewhere.

  103. None

    I wrote to Channel 9 complaining about Ellis. Man have I been writing to lots of people. I didn’t get around to writing to her management agency but I think I will now. Clearly there’s been blowback because after she posted that disgusting tweet she posted another one with a photo of her and her family as she was going off on holidays. I had said to Channel 9 they need to haul her ass back to publicly apologize to Maria and I don’t see an apology there so time to write to Channel 9 again and to Fairfax and to her management agency and once again to write to all the netball associations thanking them for standing firm against bullies like Liz Ellis and the ANZ.

  104. JohnJJJ

    Liz Ellis is a piece of work.
    Once they get on the speaking circuit they can’t shut up.

  105. BrettW

    One report I saw vaguely mentioned 95,000 anti Folau votes on Change . Org.

    Seems a high number but so little mention of it other than a passing reference to say it was part of the campaign to get GFM to close fund down.

    Wasn’t the head of Change on Q&A and a lesbian?

    How did the word spread about their petition ?

  106. I was involved in the great South East Asia fuckup in the same year as you. It was horrid; but nothing that you say is true. I don’t remember you at school at Toowoomba, nor during our year in SVN – but boychick you are delusional.

    Here are some verifiable facts –
    1. I went to school in Toowoomba (Check Downlands College Magazine 1961/62 – Toowoomba Regional Library).
    2. I served in 7 RAR 2nd Tour 1970. Check Vietnam veterans’ nominal roll.
    3. Every National serviceman who went to Vietnam was not a volunteer. (Check Mark Dapin – Australia’s Vietnam – Myth Vs History – p 41) and the 1965 National Service Act.

    Mate – somebody may well be delusional, but it ain’t me.
    You’re correct, however, about the “fuckup”, brought to you by a paranoid Coalition government.
    That “fuckup” killed about 500 Australians, and wounded and traumatised thousands more.

  107. EvilElvis

    That’s the spirit, get up ANZ if you’re a customer. Don’t hold back on the woke local branch staff either, they’re happily getting paid from your funds while getting ticks in virtue signalling kpi boxes. Getting dirty at ground level is required in these times.

  108. Knuckle Dragger

    lis elis lol.

    /monty off

  109. None

    The so-called eight children were all the spawn of that f****** terrorist is 5 kids and the two kids of the 18-year-old who subsequently gave birth to a third. That’s right the f****** media a describing and 18 year old mother of two pregnant with her third as a child. Give me a f****** break.

  110. teamv

    Public service growth hurting the economy
    Adam Creighton June 26, 2019

    A surge in public sector jobs and government spending has supercharged the tax burden and been a drag on national productivity growth, according to a Commonwealth Bank report that takes aim at the Morrison government’s claim to fiscal rectitude.

    Over the 12 months to May, 85 per cent of new jobs (364,000) were in the public sector, the report found, while government non-investment spending has grown more than twice as fast as household spending over the past four years.

    “While growth in public sector employment boosts demand in the economy in the short run, there is a financial cost that is born by taxpayers,” said Gareth Aird, the report author and a senior Commonwealth Bank economist. “Public sector employment is not associated with much in the way of a productivity dividend.”

    The report spoiled the government’s pitch that the Australian economy was strong because of a thriving private sector.

    The biggest job increases were in “government administration and safety”, court employees, policy setting and the oversight of government programs, according to Mr Aird’s analysis of the ABS’s quarterly classification of jobs.

    Professional service jobs, including consultants and managers, grew the quickest in the private sector. Mr Aird said the non-productive nature of most public sector work explained the contrast between strong jobs growth and sliding GDP growth, which contributed to the Reserve Bank’s decision to cut interest rates earlier this month, with another cut expected next week. Per capita, the economy shrank in the second half of last year. Over the past four years, public sector jobs have grown up to 10 times faster than private sector jobs.

    The report follows analysis by The Australian last week that showed public sector jobs as a share of the total job market had jumped to 15 per cent from 12.5 per cent, including a 30 per cent rise in public sector workers in Victoria over the year to May.

    “The improvement in the government’s fiscal position is not due to expenditure restraint. The budget is back in the black because the tax take has been rising — for the past four years,” Mr Aird said, in contrast to the government’s view.

    When Josh Frydenberg announced the budget should return to a surplus of $7.1 billion next financial year, the Treasurer declared: “We are reducing the debt and this interest bill, not through higher taxes but by responsible budget management.”

    Tax as a share of income has increased steadily over the past decade as government consumption growth has increased on average by 4.5 per cent a year — compared with a rate of 1.8 per cent for household consumption.

    “The economy has been sleepwalking towards a state of low productivity and low output per capita,” Mr Aird said.

  111. Just emailed ANZ, pointing out that although I wasn’t a customer, I applaud their stand against ignorance and bigotry. My wife and 4 kids (separately) have done the same.
    Now in the process of doing the same with QANTAS, for whom I am a loyal customer.
    With any luck, I might get some extra FF points.

  112. Socrates:

    Izzy may be deserving of many things, but IMHO for that posting he is deserving of neither the sack, nor of being “unpersonned” by the entire journalist caste, & the SJW cohort.
    His wife shouldn’t even rate a mention, never mind have her career curtailed & be investigated for “homo-bluddee-phobia”

    It just helps for us to imagine the ‘kind and loving’ society those perverts want to impose on us.
    I have a theory that all dictatorial forces eventually succumb to over reach.
    This is yet another peer review of that theory.

  113. Knuckle Dragger

    Here are some more verifiable facts –

    1. Closing time at Townsville pubs in the late 80s and early 90s was a quiet, orderly affair.
    2. SLRs can be locked and loaded. This term was commonly used.
    3. Volunteers in the military are unskilled labour.
    4. Unruly children can be controlled with the careful use of shaving mirrors.
    5. It takes no one ever 12 months to sack someone for smoking.
    6. Plovers are useful members of the animal kingdom and should be revered, Godlike, in the manner of ancient Egyptian cats.

  114. Infidel Tiger

    Got my mo way back from GFM.

    Now I can give that to ACL.

  115. Leigh Lowe

    Gosh, this is going to be a squeeze.
    Loves Qantas, hates Boeing.
    Going to have to be careful here.

  116. Dr Faustus

    The Left media incensed about uppity conservatives hiding their shameful proclivities:

    ‘People with different beliefs get abused’: Who is donating to Israel Folau’s war chest?

    The ACL was tight-lipped about who is behind the incredible amount of money pouring into the legal fund.

    The group refused to answer questions about the donors’ demographics, what the largest amounts were, or even the average.

    Not even the average! FMD, I think we all know what that means…

    Luckily NewDaily has access to Rodney Croome to put us right:

    Although their identities may be hidden, those donating to Folau’s campaign should think about “whether his cause is worth their support” before contributing their hard-earned cash, said Mr Croome.

    So, it looks like the donors are actually zombie lemmings, blindly throwing their hard-earned in without considering whether Folau’s cause is worth supporting. Good to know.

    I suppose I should ask for my money back.

  117. Tintarella di Luna

    I have shares in the ANZ (Another Nosey Zealot) and have telephoned ANZ to ask for a fax number so my letter can be sent to the Board. In my 16 minute call I was firstly told by the person on the phone that I was not permitted to know the name of the Chairman of the Board and the CEO because of privacy reason, I ask to speak to a supervisor but was put through to the complaint department who told me they did not have a fax number to send a letter to the Chairman of the Board.

    The Annual Report of 2018 gives it all and here are all the contacts for ANZ including the telephone numbers, fax numbers and addresses and David Gonski is the chairman of the Board and Shayne Elliott is the CEO

  118. Leigh Lowe

    ANZ Toowoomba must be high-fiving this morning, knowing that they are stuck with the Spud forever.
    Of course, the rivers of gold flowing through the branch from the book sales must be some compensation.

  119. mh

    Ray Hadley trying to move the conversation on from Folau.

    Realises he hasn’t understood this matter at all and is now on shaky ground with his audience.

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    7. Having a PhD means you are extremely intelligent and have an unchallengeable intellect,
    8. From an Australian perspective, the Vietnam War was a dastardly attempt by Menzies and the Rand Corporation to drag snivelling whiny nobodies from their chosen vocation of being mediocre in regional Queensland.

  121. C.L.

    Ray Hadley going after Folau’s father this morning. Not for anything he did.
    No. The Duke of Dapto says pater Folau has ‘liked’ sermons by an American pastor who has criticised women who attend church services dressed like ‘whores.’ Hadley described him as an “absolute lunatic” and said Israel’s father must apologise or something. He also promises to play audio of this US preacher and warned listeners it is “offensive.”

  122. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #3057693, posted on June 26, 2019 at 9:23 am
    The so-called eight children were all the spawn of that f****** terrorist is 5 kids and the two kids of the 18-year-old who subsequently gave birth to a third. That’s right the f****** media a describing and 18 year old mother of two pregnant with her third as a child. Give me a f****** break.”

    Agree…but since they are coming “back home”…cough, cough, cough….resettle them with the Jooo hating SS guard who shits here…they’ll be right at home and they’ll all have lots to talk about and agree with….especially when dealing with those damn Joooos.

  123. None

    Well nearly all of my flights get paid for by others but I still managed to change the next one to virgin and the one after that is getting changed to Singapore Airlines. Yes.

  124. Leigh Lowe

    In my 16 minute call I was firstly told by the person on the phone that I was not permitted to know the name of the Chairman of the Board and the CEO because of privacy reason,

    Yeah, nah, bullshit.
    Names of directors of listed companies must be published.
    What this tells you is the woke brigade are making shit up on the fly.

  125. Boambee John

    *AKA Fatty 5D

    The perseveration is playing up again!

  126. stackja

    BrettW
    #3057688, posted on June 26, 2019 at 9:22 am

    Meanwhile:

    Wind Farms for Warringah
    24,386 have signed. Let’s get to 25,000!

    Zali Steggall and the people of Warringah need to show leadership on immediate climate change ACTION. The proposal: wind turbines are to be placed along the foreshore, taking advantage of the sea breezes. Let’s lead the way by example, for everyone who voted against climate action. Sign and spread the petition Australians! Let’s do it for the children!

  127. mh

    CL, Hadley playing that audio right now.

    What a dill.

  128. mh

    Ray Hadley has just used the term “If you lay down with dogs you get fleas”.

    Twat.

  129. stackja

    C.L.
    #3057706, posted on June 26, 2019 at 9:39 am

    RH lost the plot over Philip Wilson. Now digging another hole.

  130. None

    ANZ sacked their CEO this week and even the Sydney Morning Herald has to carry the story hahaha. ANZ has been consistently in the papers for two years for their bully culture for their financial improprieties for their disgusting treatment of customers and now for bullying a woman.
    The front page of the print version of the Daily Telegraph is now calling the ANZ “another nosey zealot”. Which would describe numbers to a tee.

    The other day and numbers told us that is kids have their own lives to live and today he’s got them frog marching with their pens, bayonets fixed. Such a bullshitter

  131. dover_beach

    Rad Hadley is a tosspot.

  132. Mark A

    C.L.
    #3057706, posted on June 26, 2019 at 9:39 am
    Ray Hadley going after Folau’s father this morning.

    I tried to listen to him on occasions but no, just could not.
    He reached his limit as a race-caller at Dapto dogs and overreached when driving a taxi.

    You think he may be on some shaky ground here, attacking I F’s father?

  133. thefrollickingmole

    With any luck, I might get some extra FF points.

    In a just world Numberwang would die in a Qantas crash as the sole passenger on a Boeing while on his way to Cuba where the air traffic control tower just failed because Trump himself barred the export of a part they needed to keep it working.
    And as the plane comes down (the pilots having bailed out after the 50th repetition of “I was in Nam you know) over the radio comes “The overthrow of the sclerotic Castro regime and a petition to become the 51st state of America”….

  134. C.L.

    Ray’s fans didn’t realise he was un unchurched skippy scrubber who hates Christianity.

  135. mh

    Ray Hadley is taking the advice of Lloyd Christmas: “We’re in a hole and we’re just gonna have to dig ourselves out”.

  136. Infidel Tiger

    Hadley going after anyone’s father is a disgrace.

    Hadley’s son is a degenerate drug addict and bent copper.

    Hadley is a bully. No wonder his wife left him for someone vigorous and far better.

  137. thefrollickingmole

    The ALP have lerned nothing, again…

    Labor should let hope prevail on refugees, shadow minister Andrew Giles says
    Exclusive: the shadow minister for multicultural affairs is convinced public sentiment on asylum seekers has shifted

    Public sentiment on asylum seekers has shifted, and Labor must use the looming parliamentary term to “give Australia’s hopeful side a fair chance to prevail over the politics of fear, and division” according to the shadow minister for multicultural affairs, Andrew Giles.

    Giles will use a speech to Australian Fabians on Wednesday to argue the recent community debate around the medical evacuations bill, and the tone of the federal election, suggests Australians are over the toxic politics of border protection, and are fatigued by the “false binaries and unnecessary aggression” from the home affairs minister, Peter Dutton.

    The sentiment is “good they have stopped coming” and your party wouldnt approach the dead skunk that is open borders lunacy in the last election.

    Heres the life experience of this toad.(via wiki)
    Early life and education
    Giles was born in Melbourne. His mother was born in the United Kingdom, making him a British citizen by descent; he renounced his dual citizenship before standing for parliament in 2013.[3] Giles has a Bachelor of Arts and Laws from the University of Melbourne. Before entering parliament, he was a principal solicitor for Slater and Gordon and as a senior associate at Holding Redlich lawyers and consultants.[4] He acted as a solicitor for refugees stranded aboard the Tampa.[5] Giles also worked as a senior advisor for the Bracks and Brumby Governments in Victoria.[6] He was secretary of the Socialist Left in Victoria

  138. C.L.

    Confirmed: the Israel Folau saga is definitely about freedom of religion.

    ABC Online: The Israel Folau saga is not about freedom of religion.

  139. Mother Lode

    Richo also thinks if he makes a good confession on his deathbed he goes straight to heaven.

    And of course if he is making his confession on his death bed out of a desire to go to Heaven rather than in the true spirit of contrition then he can’t expect absolution.

    Once again he betrays a strange and juvenile grasp of religion.

    If he thinks he will be sneaking into heaven under a technicality (went through the procedures of confessing) then I recommend he crank the heat up in the house and change all the lights for sunlamps. Kind of as preparation for the afterlife.

  140. Infidel Tiger

    Just emailed ANZ, pointing out that although I wasn’t a customer, I applaud their stand against ignorance and bigotry. My wife and 4 kids (separately) have done the same.
    Now in the process of doing the same with QANTAS, for whom I am a loyal customer.
    With any luck, I might get some extra FF points

    “I’ll take ‘Things That Never Happened’ for $1.7mn and counting thanks, Alex”.

  141. Tintarella di Luna

    Ellis wanted Maria Folau fired.
    Pure and simple.
    The blowback has been something to behold and Lizzie is now trying to save her own job.
    Does she still do product endorsements.

    That envious spiteful troll has shown her true colours by wanting to be loved by the luvvies and to be part of the groupthink. She has now realised that people complain and the complaints to whatever show she’s on has obviously been communicated to her in no uncertain terms —

    We can be activists too, quietly and effectively and we are the millions with the money, the other slactivists are all on Other People’s Money and that’s why they shoot off with their big mouths and raise their shouty shouty voices they are the Sleeping Midgets we are very much awake to their shameless indolence and meanness. We quiet Australians have show how effective quiet activism can be, it won the unwinnable election and is causing conniptions amongst the woke folk and they are terrified.

    Go you activists.

  142. stackja

    C.L.
    #3057726, posted on June 26, 2019 at 9:51 am

    Simple Simon says.

  143. feelthebern

    Hadley is a bully. No wonder his wife left him for someone vigorous and far better.

    & then he tried to get her new squeeze fired from his job.

  144. None

    By the time I type this Izzy’s donation will be 1.7 million.

    I actually thought he might get a million maybe over an extended fundraising period. Boy was I wrong.

  145. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #3057706, posted on June 26, 2019 at 9:39 am

    Ray Hadley going after Folau’s father this morning. Not for anything he did.

    Any stories about fathers of NSW coppers who are drug dealers?

  146. feelthebern

    “I’ll take ‘Things That Never Happened’ for $1.7mn and counting thanks, Alex”.

    Just like telling the poor waitress at the diner within earshot of her manager that she should be paid a decent wage & not need a tip.

    Breaking news, US diners have hoards of managers hovering around all serving staff.

  147. Tintarella di Luna

    Yeah, nah, bullshit.
    Names of directors of listed companies must be published.
    What this tells you is the woke brigade are making shit up on the fly.

    yes Leigh I told her it was a publicly listed company and must disclose it’s Board of Directors. Poor thing I was very polite but insistent with her because I knew that the call was recorded, same with the bloke who could find a fax number.

  148. None

    Hey numbers we’re still waiting for a picture of that “ATSIC flag” that was in your church and for you to tell us what country and what people that represents. What’s wrong? Cat got your tongue?

  149. stackja

    None
    #3057732, posted on June 26, 2019 at 9:56 am

    Almost!

    $1,691,020.97 raised

  150. feelthebern

    It’s on the ANZ website.

  151. pete m

    Happy day was leaving ANZ.

    Now find broker bought them in sweep of bank stocks recently. Instructions to broker being sent now is sell ANZ now, and don’t buy them ever again.

  152. Tintarella di Luna

    & then he tried to get her new squeeze fired from his job.

    Yep and Laurie Daly told him to take a hike

  153. feelthebern

    Yep and Laurie Daly told him to take a hike

    & Laurie Daly has never heard the end of it.
    Just like Alan Jones “picks & sticks”, Ray Hadley will hold a grudge forever.

  154. None

    What is f****** hilarious is that ANZ went big on Pride month and the Gaystapo sat on them about the Folau women netball, and the netball women – ordinary women and a few lesbians
    – have said sorry, no bunch of sodomy fetishists are going to interrupt our womens’ sport. The optics are brilliant.

  155. Tintarella di Luna

    Confirmed: the Israel Folau saga is definitely about freedom of religion.

    ABC Online: The Israel Folau saga is not about freedom of religion.

    I note the article is written by the creepy Simon Longstaff, the guy in charge of the ethics classes in school.

    What a creep was at a debate on school funding some time back and after the event there he was smooozing around all these gorgeous young women — what a dreadful sight and what a creepy creep.

  156. feelthebern

    Nick Cowdrey wasn’t a great DPP.
    But according to Hadley, he didn’t jail nearly enough people.
    Ray would unload on the chap everyday about pot smokers & jay walkers.
    Seriously, if Ray had his way the NSW jail population would be approx 3million.

  157. feelthebern

    Simon Longstaff

    Who famously wrote an article in the Fairfax press saying we didn’t need a RC into banks without disclosing that his biggest funders were….wait for it…drum roll….BANKS.

  158. None

    Yep today’s talking points are:
    Izzy did not quote the Bible and
    this is not about freedom of religion.

    This is 100% JournoList

  159. Tintarella di Luna

    Ray Hadley will hold a grudge forever.

    Well Alan can be persuaded that’s because he’s smart – horse head doesn’t have the intellect or soul for proportion, it’s all gobby shouting.

    I used to listen to him out of loyalty for a project he helped me on about 15 years ago but turned him off the day he attacked Tony Abbott for his support of Cardinal George Peell=, same with the look-a-me, look-a-me Ben Fordham.

  160. stackja

    ACT minister to resign over family reasons
    ACT government minister Meegan Fitzharris will resign from the Legislative Assembly in coming weeks to spend more time with her family.
    Rebecca Gredley, Australian Associated Press
    19 minutes ago

    ACT government minister Meegan Fitzharris is set to resign from the territory’s Legislative Assembly.

    Ms Fitzharris will stand down as minister from July 1 and leave the assembly in “coming weeks”, she said in a statement on Wednesday.

    “My decision is a personal one and stems from a desire to better balance my family life,” she said.

    “This has been an incredibly difficult decision for me, but it is the right decision and will allow a new member of our team to come into the assembly prior to the 2020 election.”

    A countback of votes will occur following Ms Fitzharris’ departure to fill the casual vacancy, involving those who were up for election in 2016 and still wish to be considered.

    Ms Fitzharris has been the member for Yerrabi since 2016 and holds the health, higher education, vocational education, medical research and transport portfolios.

    And the real story?

  161. Tintarella di Luna

    Happy day was leaving ANZ.

    Now find broker bought them in sweep of bank stocks recently. Instructions to broker being sent now is sell ANZ now, and don’t buy them ever again.

    Well done, I just wish I had a bank account with them so I could close it — I will discuss with the Sunbather how to get rid of the shares and buy elsewhere.

  162. stackja

    Almost!

    $1,699,706.00 raised

  163. stackja

    Now

    $1,700,056.00 raised

  164. lotocoti

    Until the likes of numberwang publicly endorse antics such as those exposed by the photoblogger, Zombietime, I’m declaring them ignorance and bigotry peddling homophobes.

  165. Real Deal

    Former champion netballer Liz Ellis.

    I’m really concerned about what a retired netballer thinks.

    Has anyone asked any of our former female tunnel ball captains what their views are on Maria Folau?

  166. feelthebern

    How’s Magda’s GFM page going ?

  167. Notafan

    ANZ putting multiple emails in the who cares basket this morning

    if you were fair dinkum you would transfer to them and tell your old bank why.

    But no.

  168. Infidel Tiger

    Seriously, if Ray had his way the NSW jail population would be approx 3million.

    Except his corrupt, coke addict son of course.

  169. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just like telling the poor waitress at the diner within earshot of her manager that she should be paid a decent wage & not need a tip.

    This story is at Powerline today:

    Slow Learners on the Left

    Take the case of Book Culture, a four-location independent bookseller in New York City. Book Culture enjoys a reputation as a progressive bookstore, a certified outlet for all the literary needs of the wokerati. Trouble is, Book Culture is about to go under.

    Why? I’ll let them explain it:

    “Our four stores are in danger of closing soon and we need financial assistance or investment on an interim basis to help us find our footing. This is true in spite of the fact that business has been good and we are widely supported and appreciated,” [owner Chris Doeblin] wrote. “In the last 30 months the payroll costs for Book Culture have risen by 50% and it has been difficult to adapt quickly enough.”

    I wonder how their payroll could rise so fast? It’s a mystery! Ok maybe not such a mystery…

    Doeblin blamed payroll cost increases on the city’s minimum wage raise, which he says increased hourly wages for his employees “from $10 to $15.25 since December 2016” and forced him to initiate layoffs and reorganizing.

    Funny how that happens.

  170. mh

    The only former champion netballer I know of is Laura Geitz.

    Who is this Liz Ellis?

  171. Dr Faustus

    The Israel Folau crowdfunding saga is not about freedom of religion

    Well, it clearly is for some – so, that’s wrong for a start.
    For others it is a pushback on the overreach of political correctness.
    And for others the ARU is a disaster of an organization that needs a thorough kicking.

    It’s also an important employment issue, just as Dr Longstaff explains:

    However, if the conscience of an employee should be respected, then so should that of the employer. No individual or organisation is required to be complicit in conduct that it sincerely believes to be wrong.

    This is the ground on which Rugby Australia and GoFundMe have both stood. They have decided not to enable the propagation of views that they hold to be ethically objectionable.

    Fair enough too.
    And there is a substantial public interest issue in clarifying just where the boundaries of personal and corporate complicity and ethical conduct intersect with the legal duties of employers and employees.
    It’s actually a big deal.

    Israel Folau is doing us all a favour.

  172. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3057759, posted on June 26, 2019 at 10:15 am

    How’s Magda’s GFM page going ?

    Magda is having Female Genital Mutilation?
    Still, I suppose if …
    [that is quite enough lurid speculation from you LL -Sinc]

  173. Infidel Tiger

    Samu Kerevi liking Folau’s posts.

    Will RA sack him before the RWC?

    He is already off to Japan next year. We could lose our best two players because of Instagram posts!

  174. mh

    So Ray Hadley attempted to control his ex wife, and has a drug addicted crooked son.

    Ray needs to get things straight with the Lord.

  175. notafan

    Isn’t Liz Ellis really just saying Thunderbirds should sack Maria Folau.

  176. feelthebern

    128k for magda.
    well done.
    get back to me when they overtake izzy.

  177. Tintarella di Luna

    Has anyone asked any of our former female tunnel ball captains what their views are on Maria Folau?

    made my morning thank you Real Deal

  178. Infidel Tiger

    Ray is a very broken person.

    He’s the reason Uber became a thing. Imagine him as your taxi driver?

  179. thefrollickingmole

    How’s Magda’s GFM page going ?

    Am I bad person for wanting to start a “Support Magdas FGM procedure” page instead?

    Might get me a fatwa from the poor sod who has to carry it out.
    A very big job, but he will look into it.

  180. Real Deal

    I note the article is written by the creepy Simon Longstaff, the guy in charge of the ethics classes in school.

    I followed the ethics in schools debate a few years ago. Wrote one or two letters in the SMH and had to put up with him sending angry unsolicited emails to me. I did feel rather creeped at the time. Another Sydney elitist who can argue black is white and get away with it.

  181. Infidel Tiger

    Good for Magda.

    Get back to me when she has returned all the Jenny Craig cash she hoovered.

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How’s Magda’s GFM page going ?

    Have a look at the supporting cast of SJWs.

  183. Real Deal

    How’s Magda’s GFM page going ?

    Which one? The one asking to fund a bariatric surgeon?

  184. feelthebern

    The Oz is saying the Federal government is looking to reduce VC recipients travel entitlements.
    This stinks of deep state, department over reach to embarrass the government.
    Just like the government funding cuts to charities over the past 12 months.
    There needs to be a clean out of the deep state in the public service in Oz, just like Trump is cleaning house in the US.

  185. Tintarella di Luna

    Pushing bachelor degrees in lesbian dance theory and liberal arts was Julia Gillard’s take on a GRAAAYTE EJAJKAYSHUN
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/decades-pushing-bachelors-degrees-u-s-needs-tradespeople

  186. Mark A

    feelthebern
    #3057772, posted on June 26, 2019 at 10:26 am

    128k for magda.
    well done.
    get back to me when they overtake izzy.

    Smart move with the target and even better with the cause.
    Who wouldn’t donate for a cause like that?

  187. Mother Lode

    Academic psychologist puzzled at why heterosexual women want to date somebody with a cock and why heterosexual men want to date a woman with a vagina and stuff.

    Maybe the first thing they can do is consider that they do not want to date them only because cock or vagina, and the other person having aforementioned genitalia is not sufficient reason to get involved.

    Half the country have ‘innies’, but there are very few with whom I am interested in being involved.

    There is a sexual drive which is far less selective and clearly not a social construct – even the untutored cro-magnons, and even solitary animals that eschew any ‘social’ interaction, are pretty reliably heterosexual. But we can’t talk about a biological underpinnings of behaviour because ‘love is love’.

  188. notafan

    Notice the split on madga’s fund 90% sick kiddies 10% lgbt

    She wasn’t prepared to risk a fifty/fifty split

    apparently this is ‘sending a message’

  189. Real Deal

    made my morning thank you Real Deal

    My pleasure Tinta. I lurk here mostly but very much appreciate your posts.

  190. Slim Cognito

    However, if the conscience of an employee should be respected, then so should that of the employer. No individual or organisation is required to be complicit in conduct that it sincerely believes to be wrong.

    Bollocks. Organisations don’t have a conscience. The people who run them decide what it is and they can be changed.

  191. notafan

    There is a sexual drive which is far less selective and clearly not a social construct

    Yeap people are not attracted to fakes and being able to reproduce is probably a large part of that unconscious part of why we prefer a particalar person

  192. Infidel Tiger

    Usually when lefties are giving money to kids it’s for sex or hush money.

  193. dover_beach

    And there is a substantial public interest issue in clarifying just where the boundaries of personal and corporate complicity and ethical conduct intersect with the legal duties of employers and employees.
    It’s actually a big deal.

    Catholic natural theory developed an extensive apparatus for distinguishing immediate all the way through to remote acts of cooperation, distinctions that are often reflected in the law in many jurisdictions. Longstaff is being idiotic if he believes the employer here is acting with due regard to their conscience given that their complicity in what they regard as Folau’s wrongful act is remote: (i) that the support rendered is a salary paid to Folau for his services to the ARU and thus separate to whatever Folau does privately and not under the banner of the ARU; (ii) that there is a proportionately serious to justify such toleration of Folau’s engagement in the public square; and, (iii) that they can avoid scandal simply by expressing their disagreement with Folau’s statements.

  194. notafan

    No individual or organisation is required to be complicit in conduct that it sincerely believes to be wrong.

    That opens the door to a fantastical intervention into people’s private lives, by ANY employer about anything that they subjectively claim that is ‘sincerely believed to be wrong’.

    Not to mention separating work from private live is not ‘complicitness’ that is pure weasel.

  195. Tintarella di Luna

    I lurk here mostly but very much appreciate your posts

    .😊Thank you Real Deal haven’t been here much lately but this Israel Folau is really burning my innards

  196. slackster

    Ted Cruz on Senate hearing talking about the revelation of the veritas video from yesterday

    https://youtu.be/q1YENAvOveE

  197. dover_beach

    Heavens, Catholic natural law theory…

  198. Tintarella di Luna

    Usually when lefties are giving money to kids it’s for sex or hush money.

    ooooh you are a wag Infidel Tiger

  199. Mark A

    Mark A
    #3057785, posted on June 26, 2019 at 10:32 am

    feelthebern
    #3057772, posted on June 26, 2019 at 10:26 am

    128k for magda.
    well done.
    get back to me when they overtake izzy.

    PS, the more donation she gets the more her argument about people are prevented from donating to sick children, because of I Falou grabbing the limelight, is destroyed.

  200. Mother Lode

    One thing I have discovered that throws lefty anti-Christian trolls on soshul meeja.
    Tell them you forgive them, bless them and are praying for them.
    They either go nuts or go vewwy, vewwy quiet.

    Actually, I suspect they don’t go quiet.

    When you speak of forgiving, praying and blessing after your own beliefs they, after theirs, declare that that when the revolution comes they will have you up against a wall and shoot you with slow bullets that take half an hour to to pass through your body tearing organs open, and that they will drink your blood and gulp down your heart.

    But platforms like Goolag, Flakebook and Twatter have very rigid protocols in place to prevent anyone typing anything online…that gives away the game plan for the post-revolution year-zero progressive regime.

  201. Tinta:

    That envious spiteful troll has shown her true colours by wanting to be loved by the luvvies and to be part of the groupthink. She has now realised that people complain and the complaints to whatever show she’s on has obviously been communicated to her in no uncertain terms

    The gap between the self appointed elites and the proles has been widening worldwide since the election of Trump/Brexit/AGW. No amount of effusive claptrap from the Technocrats will be able to fill the chasm which is now gaping wider than Gillards arse.
    Just how good is Australia?

  202. dover_beach

    That opens the door to a fantastical intervention into people’s private lives, by ANY employer about anything that they subjectively claim that is ‘sincerely believed to be wrong’.

    Not to mention separating work from private live is not ‘complicitness’ that is pure weasel.

    Indeed, as a principle without further qualification, it is totalitarian.

  203. notafan

    I don’t know why either that it would be a surprise that most Cubans are nice, apart from the fact that gringo is cash and cash is king, most people are pleasant enough., where ever you go.

  204. None

    I’m all for the Americans or anyone really screwing any country for the temerity of having a communist government. Godspeed

  205. None

    The Cubans will only show you the Cuba they want you to see because dollars.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    Hadley has been running this schtick for years, that he is an everyday, knock-about, larrikin good bloke.
    He’s as much a normal Aussie bloke as Julian Clary.

  207. pete m

    ANZ bank has denied pressuring Netball New Zealand over Maria Folau’s support for her husband in his runaway bid to raise $3 million from “the quiet Australians” to fund a legal battle against Rugby Australia.
    The bank, one of the big four in Australia, sponsors Netball NZ while Mrs Folau plays for the Silver Ferns national team, as well as the Adelaide Thunderbirds.
    “We value our partnership with Netball NZ and any suggestion we have tried to pressure them is absolutely incorrect,” ANZ said in a statement on Wednesday.
    ANZ said while it would continue to support Netball NZ, “we do not support any views or actions that can be interpreted as supporting homophobia”.

    ANZ starts backtracking. Too late MFOs.

  208. Tintarella di Luna

    Anyone who’s worked closely with Hadley knows it.

    Is it true that Andrew Moore , a great sports commentator left 2GB because of Ray Hadley? And I do remember an expletive laden sound bite which surfaced during one of the Broadcasts from the Athens Olympics – can’t seem to find it now. It was volcanic

  209. Feelthebern:

    How’s Magda’s GFM page going ?

    It’s going great!
    It just passed the duodenum/jejunum intersection at a rate of knots.

  210. Tintarella di Luna

    Just how good is Australia?

    Since the weekend, very very good to my mind even though I must now go to work for the slavedriver who expects breakfast and dinner and no rest for the wicked these few days on here have been totals graaaayt – thanks fellow felines for the entertainment and enlightenment.

  211. notafan

    I’m all for the Americans or anyone really screwing any country for the temerity of having a communist government. Godspeed

    Blaming the US for Cuba’s woes in a mre trope anyhow.

    There are dozens of countries in South America and elsewhere with wh0m Cuba can trade, as admitted it was the collapse of the USSR that was the cause of Cuba’s most recent major financial woes.

    The problem, like the collapse of the USSR itself, is that central planning and communism does not work, has never worked, and never will work.

  212. None

    Just reading the ANZ corporate cringe; I’m reminded of Collits:

    Let us take these in turn. First, Folau’s alleged “homophobia”. 

    This is the oldest new trick in the book, constantly parlayed by the rainbow woke, and the most risible.  No, it is not homophobic for a Christian (or a Muslim, for that matter) to regard homosexual acts as sinful.  The distinction is so obvious that it hardly bears repeating, although ‘hate the sin, love the sinner’ comes immediately to mind. Those who claim to see and encounter endless homophobia are not stupid, and their use of that neologism has repeatedly demonstrated it is ploy, an Orwellian newspeak tactic of the new ruling class. Say it often enough and it becomes real, a threat to “decent society” that must be expunged!  Just like Islamophobia, that other non-existent evil used to silence criticism of a political system of absolute control presenting itself as a religion.

  213. Roger

    ANZ bank has denied pressuring Netball New Zealand over Maria Folau’s support for her husband in his runaway bid to raise $3 million from “the quiet Australians” to fund a legal battle against Rugby Australia.

    So they are liars as well as bullies.

    Worth recalling Kenneth Hayne’s assessment of Australian bankers: their were ample laws and regulations to police their behaviour, the problem is they lacked the ethics to follow them.

  214. None

    Just reading the ANZ corporate cringe; I’m reminded of Collits:

    Let us take these in turn. First, Folau’s alleged “homophobia”. 

    This is the oldest new trick in the book, constantly parlayed by the rainbow woke, and the most risible.  No, it is not homophobic for a Christian (or a Moooslim, for that matter) to regard homosexual acts as sinful.  The distinction is so obvious that it hardly bears repeating, although ‘hate the sin, love the sinner’ comes immediately to mind. Those who claim to see and encounter endless homophobia are not stupid, and their use of that neologism has repeatedly demonstrated it is ploy, an Orwellian newspeak tactic of the new ruling class. Say it often enough and it becomes real, a threat to “decent society” that must be expunged!  Just like Islamophobia, that other non-existent evil used to silence criticism of a political system of absolute control presenting itself as a religion.

  215. None

    Just reading the ANZ corporate cringe; I’m reminded of Collits:

    Let us take these in turn. First, Folau’s alleged “homophobia”. 

    This is the oldest new trick in the book, constantly parlayed by the rainbow woke, and the most risible.  No, it is not homophobic for a Christian (or a Moooslim, for that matter) to regard homosexual acts as sinful.  The distinction is so obvious that it hardly bears repeating, although ‘hate the sin, love the sinner’ comes immediately to mind. Those who claim to see and encounter endless homophobia are not stupid, and their use of that neologism has repeatedly demonstrated it is ploy, an Orwellian newspeak tactic of the new ruling class. Say it often enough and it becomes real, a threat to “decent society” that must be expunged!  Just like Islaymophobia, that other non-existent evil used to silence criticism of a political system of absolute control presenting itself as a religion.

  216. Infidel Tiger

    Add HCF to the banned list.

    I warned you about corporatism. Most dangerous thing we have ever had to deal with.

  217. stackja

    Tintarella di Luna
    #3057810, posted on June 26, 2019 at 10:50 am

    Former 2GB sports caller Andrew Moore at ease after Ray Hadley ‘bully’ claims
    Sports caller Andrew Moore has responded after going public with alleged bullying against former colleague Ray Hadley saying the amount of current and former 2GB staff who have reached out to him has “far exceeded what I thought”.

    Michael Carayannis, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    April 5, 2019 7:11am

    SPORTS caller Andrew Moore says a weight has been lifted off his shoulders after going public with alleged bullying against former colleague Ray Hadley.

    Moore — an ABC Grandstand rugby league host — labelled Hadley a “bully” who “thrives on intimidation” during an explosive ABC 730 program on Wednesday night.

    Moore said he was now at ease after speaking publicly for the first time about his more than three decade association with the 2GB broadcaster.

    “I didn’t feel a weight lifted off me when I did the interview to be honest, but this morning a hundred per cent I do,” Moore said. “I feel so different from what I thought I’d feel. I was nervous and anxious.”

  218. feelthebern

    Today is fun in the office.
    Equating RA/Izzy situation with Work Choices/the punters.
    Resident SJW head explodes.
    Who cares if it isn’t apples & apples.
    Such fun.

  219. None

    $1,733,835.13

    If they continue at this rate they certainly are going to make 2 million today

  220. notafan

    The US embargo plays it part of course, but there is a certain irony in relying on the evil capitalistic country in the north refusing to buy your goods for your countries financial woes.

    in any case the US would most likely not buy Cuban sugar anyhow as US has domestic reasons to restrict sugar imports (see US farm bill 2002)

    five major causes of cuban poverty-it’s famous social net is one of them

  221. dover_beach

    ANZ starts backtracking. Too late MFOs.

    Indeed, will pay off a credit card very soon, and then all accounts going elsewhere. I’ve been their since the late 80s, now it’s: hasta la vista, baby.

  222. feelthebern

    If we had COR tech on the decision to reduce VC travel entitlements, we’d see exactly which deep state public servant decided to try on the sabotage.
    COR tech will introduce a level of accountability to the public service that will see half of them on stress leave.
    Because of tech & COR, we are going to have a golden age of transparency.

  223. Roger

    However, if the conscience of an employee should be respected, then so should that of the employer. No individual or organisation is required to be complicit in conduct that it sincerely believes to be wrong.

    Organisations don’t have a conscience, only people do.

  224. Leigh Lowe

    Suggestions for complaints to ANZ and about Liz Ellis.
    Refer to Maria Folau as “a working woman of colour.

  225. C.L.

    The Oz is saying the Federal government is looking to reduce VC recipients travel entitlements.
    This stinks of deep state, department over reach to embarrass the government.

    Almost certainly.
    That said, I don’t know why VC recipients are given travel “entitlements.” The decoration is reward enough. There is, in fact, no higher award. Excepting official military functions they may be obliged to attend (as the nation’s supremely honoured soldiers), they shouldn’t receive anything extra. They were decorated, not ennobled.

  226. notafan

    Just having a look at religious views of homosexuality in wiki, I have found a safe haven or two for lgbt.

    Appears to be the only a few that are unequivocal on the matter

    Satanism
    Satanism, in both the theistic and the LaVey tradition, is open to all forms of sexual expression, and does not preclude homosexuality
    UU (no surprise there!)
    Humanism ( non-religious, non-theistic approach, that is nevertheless included in the list on wiki)
    Candomblé

  227. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Scotch whisky bosses leave sour taste by deciding that the spirit can now be aged in barrels previously used for tequila

    SACRILEGE!!!!!! HERESY!!!!!

  228. Top Ender

    LIFE BAN FOR ‘SIN’ OF CHRISTIANITY
    NEIL BACH

    Star’s thought-crime punishment is absurd compared to our cheating cricketers

    Israel Folau’s unjust penalty for off-field behaviour, through a single personal social media comment, is akin to the shameful treatment of Olympians Dawn Fraser and Peter Norman.

    It certainly differs from the treatment of cricketers Cameron Bancroft, Steve Smith and David Warner, penalised rationally for cheating during a Test.

    Rugby Australia acknowledges that players have the right to express their personal views on social media respectfully, including their religious views. As a Christian commentator I’d like to offer some observations on the religious and justice issues at play.

    All evidence from Folau and others within the rugby community is that he is a respectful person, his actions consistent with his enthusiasm for his beliefs and his background of commitment to the New Testament.

    In analysing his almost 300 Instagram memes, I see an earnest Christian seeking to encourage others, not trying to slam into anybody.

    Folau’s now notorious post simply warns people of various sins that, if ongoing, will prevent people from receiving the best God has for them. It encourages them to return to God through Jesus’ salvation.

    Folau adds the words: “Jesus Christ loves you and is giving you time to turn away from your sin and come to him.” Despite claims that this is hatred from Folau, when interpreted carefully it does not express hatred.

    More widely, the Bible expresses several unpalatable truths about human actions on the way to urging us to accept God’s love. So if Folau had loaded up (say) a passage from the New Testament book Romans, “for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”, it might have escaped scrutiny, yet it assigns every single person as sinful and needing God’s help.

    In today’s climate, how can you respectfully warn and encourage someone of the spiritual consequences to some actions?

    From my religious experience

    — including 36 years as an Anglican priest — warning people of changes required to follow God can sometimes create animosity. This is particularly the case concerning things we see as essential to our view of ourselves. Most Australians understand this.

    For instance, if I go to a doctor and it is suggested I might lose some weight, I might feel resentful perhaps and take the advice personally. Yet I have been respectfully told something I need to hear.

    Folau is a magnificent international player, some say our best (just watch 30 minutes on YouTube of him playing for Australia or NSW), so the decision of Rugby Australia to pursue the matter in initially prejudging him before proper process, then terminating his contract, has brought national disgrace. And the penalty dished out bears no relation to reality and echoes other gravely mistaken decisions we have seen in previous decades.

    As the furore continues, quite rightly through the key drivers of religious freedom and freedom of expression, let’s not forget the issue of Folau’s post and his absurd penalty.

    Sporting history (we are talking about sport, not treasonable behaviour) teaches that Fraser, Norman and Folau now share the ignominy of entirely disproportionate penalties for actions off the field.

    Fraser ruffled feathers over uniform breaches and marching in the Olympic opening ceremony and allegedly pinching a flag at the 1964 Olympics (although the Japanese soon gave her another). Banned for 10 years by officials, later reduced to four years, she was then past competing competitively.

    Norman won a silver medal in the 200m sprint at Mexico. On the dais he wore an Olympic Project for Human Rights badge as John Carlos and Tommie Smith gave their famous “black power” salute. Not officially banned, Norman was effectively excluded by missing out on selection for the Munich Olympics four years later, despite being the fifth fastest athlete in the world over his distance. He immediately retired.

    It seems we have not learned from Fraser and Norman. That in 2019, for a so-called misdemeanour nowhere near the field, Folau had a contract terminated that equals a careerending life ban, seems reprehensible.

    And whether or not these three athletes committed any offence, the penalties are strikingly inappropriate. Indeed, we have gone backwards in Folau’s case.

    Contrast Bancroft, Smith and Warner, who share the ignominy of premeditated cheating in the dressing-room and on the field, and who endured a reasonably assessed penalty. Every cricketer who has ever bowled a ball or played the game at any level knows tampering with the ball is cultural cricketing death, yet an Australian player, by agreement and knowledge of two teammates, cheated on the field in a Test match.

    We can argue the point on the level of their penalty but, compared with Fraser, Norman and Folau, involved in off-field incidents, our cricketers might feel satisfied with their penalty for an on-field sin. Just now two of them are enjoying recycled success at the ICC World Cup.

    Most Australians do see the massive overreach of the extent of Folau’s penalty. It looks quite unjust. The end result at present does not say to Folau or anyone “be respectful”. It says more “don’t speak at all about these things”, and if you do you are not welcome.

    Folau has been sacrificed by Rugby Australia’s wooden and inflexible approach. Talk about getting a sledgehammer out to smash an almond. It is hard to watch the ridiculous nature of these actions. I for one do not believe, even if Folau is found to have committed some indiscretion, that a life ban makes any justifiable sense.

    Neil Bach is a retired Anglican minister living in Melbourne.

    Complete article from the Oz print edition

  229. notafan

    Trouble will be where to go?

    They are all as bad as each other

  230. C.L.

    No individual or organisation is required to be complicit in conduct that it sincerely believes to be wrong.

    Great. We can start burning down state-funded abortion clinics.
    Right?

  231. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern
    #3057821, posted on June 26, 2019 at 11:01 am
    Today is fun in the office.
    Equating RA/Izzy situation with Work Choices/the punters.
    Resident SJW head explodes.
    Who cares if it isn’t apples & apples.
    Such fun.

    I don’t think it is very far from apples and apples, actually.

  232. Perfidious Albino

    No doubt Magda’s Children’s Cancer Foundation is a worthy cause and recipient (averaging only 14% overheads reportedly), but still amusing that it’s Patron is none other than AFL Gill. Also, one of the other board members is a wealthy inheritee staging for the ‘Australian Davos Connection’. Gold standard bugmen…

  233. feelthebern

    I don’t think it is very far from apples and apples, actually.

    It’s more like Pink Lady and Granny Smith.

  234. Roger

    No individual or organisation is required to be complicit in conduct that it sincerely believes to be wrong.

    Can I get a tax rebate on my contributions to the ABC then?

    Longstaff is the ABC’s go to ethicist; not surprising as he appears to be a collectivist.

  235. Leigh Lowe

    That said, I don’t know why VC recipients are given travel “entitlements.” The decoration is reward enough. There is, in fact, no higher award.

    Are you sure it is the highest award, or just the highest military award.
    I remember seeing Keith Payne’s medals displayed at the AWM, and the AO seemed to rank above the VC.

  236. Mother Lode

    Wind Farms for Warringah
    24,386 have signed. Let’s get to 25,000!

    Blaming Warringah is like saying the last runner in the winning team in a relay race won the race.

    Warringah is just the latest to find itself in thrall to an MP with a Ruinables agenda.

    It only matters because of how many other MPs have pushing this position so consistently for so long.

    There are plenty of other seats you might have a go at – ones less likely to reverse their position in the next election.

    The electorate in Warringah was pummeled from all sides by propaganda and stunts from national newspapers, networks, and activists with deep pockets posing as ‘caring’. A whole concerted campaign was trained particularly on Warringah to push Abbott out. And it was enough to do just that.

    Any petitions for Grayndler? Division of Sydney?

    The election is over. We laughed, we cried, we howled “Booooo!” at the Albo-monster. It was all very cathartic.

    Now it’s time to come back down to Earth.

  237. Leigh Lowe

    The Oz is saying the Federal government is looking to reduce VC recipients travel entitlements.
    This stinks of deep state, department over reach to embarrass the government.

    This is nothing more than a petty bugman swipe at Ben Roberts Smith and his colleagues.

  238. feelthebern

    Public servants can’t have VC’s flying around the country.
    It might impact them flying to a climate change conference, business class, on the other side of the planet.

  239. Leigh Lowe

    One and three quarter million.
    .
    $1,750,416.13 to be precise.

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