Open Forum: June 29, 2019

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  1. johanna

    areff, as mentioned here before, the cockies are funsters. I have recounted being driven home late at night in Canberra and watching them swinging off the rubber seals from the street lights. It cost a fortune to have the lights redesigned and replaced.

    That said, they are shrieking as I type, and if I go outside it is like being at an US jet fighter base where they are all taking off at once. Truly, you have to experience it to believe it. Note – I am a heavy metal rock fan.

  2. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Statins may double the risk of type 2 diabetes

    after my surprise lipid profile 6 months ago where I was advised to go on statins, and promptly refused.

    I went back last week to a different doctor had improved numbers not far from acceptable and the new doc said on these numbers he wouldn’t recommend statins. phew. However I am doubling down to get the number back to normal. keto, intermittent fasting, 3g DHA/EPA in divided dose, 2000 IU vit d3 and a host of other measures.

    Will start NMN shortly. have 6 months supply. waiting for some more test results. (did over 30 blood tests)

  3. Fisky

    Free Health Care for Illegal Aliens Could Cost American Taxpayers up to $660B a Decade

    Iampeter and Dotty must be delighted!

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    Family relations 21stC style:

    Princeton grad, 34, faces life behind bars, convicted of killing dad who cut off his allowance

    Thomas Gilbert Jr., now 34, was 30 years old when he became angry with his father, whom New York authorities said had made cuts to the son’s weekly allowance of as much as $1,000.

    The son had been living a lavish lifestyle of golf, surfing and travel – all paid for by his parents, prosecutors said.

    “The defendant rejected hard work, instead, preferring an easy life handed to him on a silver platter,” Assistant District Attorney Craig Ortner said in his closing argument earlier this week, according to the New York Post.

    Going to be an increasing problem methinks.

    Gee, thanks Mom and Dad: 35% of millennials still live at home

    A new analysis of U.S. Census Bureau numbers by researchers at the news site 247WallStreet.com finds that 35% of Americans ages 18-34 still live at home with their parents.

    “No one expects all young people to leave their parents’ home the day after their 18th birthday, but more and more young adults remain at home long after they have completed high school. In 2006, 29% of Americans aged 18 to 34 lived at their parents’ home. In 2017, this share increased to 34.6%,” the analysis said.

    Surf’s up!

  5. cohenite

    Trump’s lack of decorum, dignity and statesmanship
    I don’t care. I can’t do without this President. He fights for America.
    Evan Sayet

    My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if I’m not bothered by Donald Trump’s lack of decorum. They ask if I don’t think his tweets are “beneath the dignity of the office.” Here’s my answer.
    We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush, as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.
    We tried statesmanship.
    Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain?
    We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?
    And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.
    I don’t find anything “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party.
    I don’t see anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover their tracks.
    I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent.
    Yes, Obama was “articulate” and “polished.” But in no way was he the least bit “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper.”
    The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To them, it has been an all-out war, where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale. It has been a war they’ve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one – the violent take-over of the universities – until today.
    The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in its way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety.
    With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America’s first wartime president in the Culture War.
    During wartime, things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming.
    Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today.
    Lincoln rightly recognized that. “I cannot spare this man. He fights,” Lincoln said.
    General George Patton was vulgar-talking. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and his National Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.
    Trump is fighting. And what’s particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel’s, he’s shouting, “You magnificent bastards, I read your book!”
    That is just the icing on the cake. But it’s wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he’s defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – a book so essential to the Liberals’ war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis.
    It is a book of such pure evil that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.
    Trump’s tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, Trump didn’t just go after “the fake media” – and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri. Trump isolated CNN. He made it personal, just as Alinsky suggested.
    Then, just as Alinsky suggested, Trump employs ridicule – which Alinsky described as “the most powerful weapon of all.” Most importantly, Trump’s tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. They need to respond.
    This leaves them with only two choices. They can either “go high” (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself, and the fake news would disingenuously report that as the truth) – and begin to honestly and accurately report the news. Or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery.
    The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve. It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive.
    Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama’s close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers & Bernardine Dohrn), the mafia (Tony Rezko), or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright’s church.
    Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration’s weaponizing the IRS, to be used against their political opponents. Or its running guns to the Mexican drug cartels. Or told the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration’s cover-up.
    So, to my friends on the Left – and the #NeverTrumpers, as well – do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of course I do.
    These aren’t those times. This is war. And it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years.
    So, say anything you want about this president. I get it. He can be vulgar. He can be crude. He can be undignified at times. I don’t care. I can’t spare this man. He fights for America!
    Evan Sayet is the author of The KinderGarden of Eden: How the Modern Liberal Thinks. His lecture to the Heritage Foundation on this topic remains by far the single most viewed lecture in Heritage history. This column originally appeared on Townhall.com

  6. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Fisk

    It gives me no joy that people do not listen regarding incentives: remove welfare payments and immigration problems are lessened quite significantly.

    …Iampeter and Dotty…

    Jay-sus. What did I do to deserve to be put alongside that obvious left-wing concern troll?

  7. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    “The defendant rejected hard work, instead, preferring an easy life handed to him on a silver platter,” Assistant District Attorney Craig Ortner said in his closing argument earlier this week, according to the New York Post.

    LOL

    The guy saying this is angling at being a Senator or a judge!

  8. Mitch M.

    DHA/EPA in divided dose, 2000 IU vit d3 and a host of other measures.

    DHA\EPA

    Poorly absorbed in many people. EPA not so important. DHA very important. Best is Life Extension’s Super Omega 3. Most stuff on the shelves is crap.

    Vit D3

    Get levels checked. Individual absorption can vary x 34 according to one study. Always consume with fat and supplement must be in lipid containing capsule. Sunlight much better as provides other benefits. I don’t bother with D3 supplements.


    Best metric for CVD risk is calcium score, far superior to cholesterol levels.

  9. areff

    Thanks, Bruce and Mayfly, I’m better informed for your info.

    Mum feeds the magpies and if she forgets to produce the mince, one of them will tap on the window until she does, which is funny enough. But what always breaks me up are the screaming kids, who could quite adequately pick up their own mince but insist on being mouth-fed by mum or dad.

    Kids of all species can be immensely annoying, as the parents inevitably end up giving noisy junior a good cuffing, telling him to get his life in order and if you want to move out that’s fine too.

    The local birds seem to have divided the day between them. The cockies swing by of a morning and late in the afternoon to tear up the lawn. The magpies arrive early and don’t stay for long, one peeled for the local crows.

    When they turn up, and there are hundreds of them living in the trees behind the bowling club, all the other birds, including the mynahs, back right off and let them have first dibs at the feeding tray.

  10. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I’m going to post a series of stories showing not only how desperate for money the ATO (therefore, Treasury and the Cabinet) are for money, but the scary level of police state investigative powers the ATO has.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-28/tax-time-ato-eyes-work-related-expenses-and-rental-claims/11257870

    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/ato-targets-moonshine-producers-003221315.html

    https://www.smartcompany.com.au/finance/tax/ato-whistleblower-hotline/

    Just outrageous. Stopping people making gin for themselves without a licence. I cannot be civil about these freaks. What a pack of malevolent, interfering arsewipes.

    Dobbing in cash incomes! Quick, lock up all the babysitters!

    10 bn hole? Given the ATO has over 20,000 APS employees, I can see a likely 2 bn in savings if 20,000 certain individuals were made redundant. Now if the government could save 8 bn from elsewhere, could any of these complete and utter wankers justify their jobs?

    Seriously, what reason do I have to stay here in Australia other than my love for my kith and kin?

  11. Geriatric Mayfly

    Jimmy Carter has wandered out of the Yellow Leaf aged care facility unattended. The marbles haven’t quite aligned as he tells us, that Trump is an illegitimate President.

  12. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    MITCH

    GIVE ME THE DRUM ON NADH ETC.

    No one wants to get old or die.

  13. bespoke

    areff
    #3066185, posted on June 29, 2019 at 4:48 pm
    Johanna, I’m fond of my cockies, who come screaming into the backyard, as they did this morning. Last year the cockies got my apricots (which can be very painful), the year before the corellas got there first. Cockies are so crazy, you have to like them — sitting on the roof and cackling away while the youngsters flick the wind vane around. It’s worth the racket to watch them

    They are a plague hear but they do keep the mother in law from staying over so Iv come to appreciate them.

  14. Mitch M.

    MITCH

    GIVE ME THE DRUM ON NADH ETC.

    No one wants to get old or die.

    I can’t do that. Electron donor, very important for the electron transport chain and plays a role in DNA regulation.

  15. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Dr Mercola might be fringe-y but he is usually ahead of the curve.

  16. Mitch M.

    Mercola is whacko. If they are putting him lower on the search results that is a problem notwithstanding the fact Mercola is Bat S. crazy.

  17. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    LOL

    Bought some medication for an older relative today. Some parents might be able to relate to this as well.

    You can get ventolin puffers without a prescription, but you cannot get the nebules for the atomiser machine without a prescription!

    As if someone is going to do themselves in like that…

    I was looking this stuff up online and I found out that in the UK, saline water nebules (no active drug) are S4 (prescription only). It is isotonic, so you cannot harm yourself with it (and you could just eat salt if you wanted to).

    These rules make absolutely no sense at all.

  18. Bruce in WA

    Trump, Xi agree to trade war ceasefire

    SIMON BENSON

    US and Chinese presidents reach agreement at G20 amid warnings they were poised to inflict even further damage to global economy

    The Oz

  19. bespoke

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3066195, posted on June 29, 2019 at 5:17 pm
    …Iampeter and Dotty…

    Jay-sus. What did I do to deserve to be put alongside that obvious left-wing concern troll?

    I thought he was your sock at one time. Still, if he was the real deal he must be living at home with no contact with outside. A future Ted Kaczynski.

  20. Fisky

    This is the best condemnation that a CATO Scholar could come up with, against the Democratic Party plan to give free healthcare to 10-20 million illegal immigrants. It pretty much gives the game away about their real intentions – forcing the borders open as wide as possible, with only a bit of post-hoc criticism of the big government programs that must follow.

    CATO is a racket for corporate welfare queens.

    https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/1144420796749746178

    The fiscal effects of immigration are small in every model/estimation. They basically pay their own way with some exceptions. Minor fiscal reforms can make them positive, but extending government healthcare to all will make it worse.

  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    Jimmy Carter has wandered out of the Yellow Leaf aged care facility unattended. The marbles haven’t quite aligned as he tells us, that Trump is an illegitimate President.

    Jeff Flake offers rare defense of Trump after Jimmy Carter suggests POTUS is ‘illegitimate’

    You know an attack bunny is off the planet when Jeff Flake is defending Donald Trump from it. We aren’t in Kansas anymore Toto.

  22. Bar Beach Swimmer

    No one expects all young people to leave their parents’ home the day after their 18th birthday, but more and more young adults remain at home long after they have completed high school. In 2006, 29% of Americans aged 18 to 34 lived at their parents’ home. In 2017, this share increased to 34.6%,” the analysis said.

    I once heard a man on ABC radio who called up to talk about this modern phenomenon. He said that he had 4 kids who all knew that up to the age of 18 they had residency status. But after 18 they became ‘most favoured guest’. He said this change of status meant that his kids could not respond with the young adult’s standard response of ‘its your house, you do it’.

  23. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    So basically if they say they don’t like something (A) and they like something (B) Fisk doesn’t like, they’re lying about A?

    This is the very epitome of solipsism Fisk. You are much more capable than this Bush-Dukakis era negative campaigning drivel.

  24. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    No one expects all young people to leave their parents’ home the day after their 18th birthday, but more and more young adults remain at home long after they have completed high school.

    It’s a very anglo idea and in the context of today’s property market, probably a bit bonkers.

    Whitey also fails by not engaging in cultivating genuine family businesses.

    Much harder to get any ticket in the trades or law without family behind you.

    Also, completing high school is a worthy achievement? You cannot fail or be “counselled” out so you may as well say “turned 18”. High school is part of the problem why people can’t get jobs straight away anymore. They’re not employable per se, viz lower quality education, compulsory nonsense and labour market regulation not seen in the boomer days.

  25. Shy Ted

    Toy Story 4 was just fantastic. If you go and I recommend you do, stay til the absolute end, til the last credit has rolled. Yes, there was Woody. Yes, there was Forky. Yes, there was a very happy ending.

  26. Tintarella di Luna

    Hi Winston I donated by direct credit to Bernard Gaynor’s Bank account which I found at this link

  27. bespoke

    Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers

    Increasingly, the iconic American planemaker and its subcontractors have relied on temporary workers making as little as $9 an hour to develop and test software, often from countries lacking a deep background in aerospace — notably India.

  28. Shy Ted

    The Outback Truckers are delivering fuel and heavy machinery to the APY lands in SA’ north. Why the Ingenious first peoples want all these modern evils when they’re living the dream up there beats me.

  29. Cassie of Sydney

    “Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3066206, posted on June 29, 2019 at 5:28 pm
    Dr Mercola might be fringe-y but he is usually ahead of the curve.”

    Really? In which way is Mercola ahead of the curve? With his anti-vaccination nonsense? With some of his conspiracy theories that he spruiks? Mercola isn’t just “fringe-y”…he is a complete and utter snake oil merchant.

  30. Bruce in WA

    PM’s global breakthrough on tech

    SIMON BENSON

    Scott Morrison has secured an unprecedented global agreement to take on social media companies after compelling world leaders to act.

    Breaking (The Oz)

  31. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    What exactly is Garry Burns trying to achieve?

    https://garryburnsantidiscriminationactivist.com/

    REASONS FOR DECISION
    The Complaint

    This was a Complaint made by the Applicant, Mr Garry Burns, on 5 June 2018 to the Anti-Discrimination Board of NSW (‘the Board’) alleging homosexual vilification on a Facebook page.

    Wow. You should see the anti-religious stuff he produces.

    I think Gaynor needs to attack, and not defend against this prat.

    Otherwise:

    1. What adult really cares? It is FaceBook, FFS.
    2. WHy can’t FB deal with it?
    3. Gaynor should check out the nasty filth that Burns pumps out. Just sayin’, a good offense is the best defence…

  32. rickw

    Line shaft driven machine shop for sale in Jamestown South Australia.

    The line shaft driven setup at the museum in Echuca is about half as good as this!

    https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/jamestown/antiques/old-belt-driven-machine-shop-for-sale/1222111249

  33. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    PM secures major G20 agreement to take on social media companies

    Simon Benson
    National Affairs Editor
    42 minutes ago June 29, 2019
    5 Comments

    Scott Morrison has secured an unprecedented global agreement to take on social media companies failing to act against the live streaming of violence and terrorism after compelling world leaders to act in the wake of the Christchurch terrorist attack.

    Securing the backing of the all G20 nations including the US, France, UK, Germany, Japan, Russia, Japan and China, the Prime Minister put companies including Twitter and Facebook on notice that the world was now demanding action.

    After a late night lobbying effort of other world leaders, the Prime Minister today won support for a separate statement on countering online terrorism and violence to be attached to the official G20 communique sending a powerful political messages to companies such as Google, Facebook and Twitter.

    It will see the 20 largest economies in the world, including the major superpowers joining forces to pressure social media companies to prevent for the promotion of violence and terrorism in their own jurisdictions.

    “Global leaders have raised the bar for social media companies in the fight to crackdown on sharing terrorist content,” Mr Morrison said.

    “Australia has been working tirelessly since the horrific Christchurch terrorist attacks to send a clear message to internet companies, together with our international partners, about the special responsibility those companies have in the fight against terrorism.

    “Today’s joint statement from the G20 Leaders’ Summit is an unprecedented coordinated effort and show of unity in the fight against terrorist and violent extremist content shared online.

    “It is a clear warning from global leaders to internet companies that they must step up. It builds on the Christchurch Call to Acton and affirms our commitments as governments to follow through with practical efforts to prevent something like that ever happening again.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  34. Bruce of Newcastle

    Amused that the NSW Labor leader election led the Nine news bulletin.
    A ballot for a state opposition leader who will be irrelevant for nearly four years.
    How exciting!
    Maybe the explanation for said excitement is that the favourite is ex-Nine journo Jodi McKay.

  35. dover_beach

    3. Gaynor should check out the nasty filth that Burns pumps out. Just sayin’, a good offense is the best defence…

    Indeed.

  36. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Dietary stuff Cassie. He’s right. The mainstream have got diet totally wrong. Dr Banting, Dr Spock and now Dr Fung were/are totally correct! Ancel Keys was a scientific abomination.

    The results from vaccination and sanitation along with effective medical imaging and antibiotics have freed us from the grip of most infectious diseases.

    I can freely ignore people who say AIDS, cancer etc aren’t real or that immunisation doesn’t work (or as someone said here earlier this year “immunity does not exist”!).

    *Cue joke about Aunt Karen, DoTerra or the 10 year anti vaxx Mum challenge…

  37. Pedro the Ignorant

    The West Australian has a teaser behind their paywall about skimpies being banned in Kalgoorlie Boulder while the annual Diggers and Dealers gabfest and pissup is on.

    What rampant poofery is this?

  38. Bruce in WA

    The insanity intensifies. What else can he be blamed for?

    (CNN)The sand dunes on the Trump International golf course in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, are expected to lose their protected conservation designation, the government said Friday.

    Scottish Natural Heritage said that about a third of the dunes on the Menie Estate have been damaged in the development of the course.
    The remainder of the habitats in the area have been “significantly fragmented, and ecological processes disrupted,” the agency said.
    The dune habitat covers about 154 hectares, or about 0.6 square miles. Development has damaged about 15% of the area, and the conservation group is removing the area from the Foveran Links Site of Special Scientific Interest, pending a three-month consultation.

  39. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Poofs wouldn’t stand for this. They’d demand to see some D & A. Conversely, we deserve to see some T & A.

    White, straight, western men have been taught to be chumps*. Conditioning is real.

    *Thanks Malcolm X.

    Black Guys Drive a Car Like This

  40. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ancel Keys was a scientific abomination”

    Yes..Keys was an original spruiker of the low fat, no fat scam that has devastated the western diet and contributed to the explosion of obesity….however there are other major factors…..the rise in sugar consumption, the rise in refined and highly processed foods….all swamped with sugar….people aren’t cooking any longer.

    But Mercola is also a scientific abomination.

  41. rickw

    “Global leaders have raised the bar for social media companies in the fight to crackdown on sharing terrorist content,” Mr Morrison said.

    After having ignored broadcasts of m u s l i m on everyone else terrorism for decades, a single instance of a terrorism on m u s l i m s being broadcast spurs them to action.

    I’m struggling to understand the logic.

  42. Geriatric Mayfly

    Pedro the Ignorant

    Will that asteroid be under discussion? The one reputed to be made up of $$$$ bazillions to the power of 10 worth of gold and platinum. If captured and brought back it would totally destroy financial systems. The Marxists might be interested in this as there appears to be enough of the pie for everybody. Equalidy at last.

  43. Tel

    CATO is a racket for corporate welfare queens.

    “socialism for the bourgeois”

  44. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Cassie, I can recommend Jason Fung’s book. It is very well written and researched. It is very analytical and evidence-based.

    The Obesity Code: Unlocking the Secrets of Weight Loss

    Jason Fung, MD.

    On the topic of intermittent fasting, here is the tale of the Scotsman who fasted for over a year:

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/angus-barbieri-382-days-without-food-scotsman-fasting-starvation-obesity-2016-10?r=US&IR=T

    Take the story of Angus Barbieri. For 382 days, ending July 11, 1966, the then-27-year-old Scotsman ate nothing.

    There’s limited documentation of Barbieri’s fast: there are a few old newspaper stories recounting his ordeal and more convincingly, there’s a case report describing the experience that his doctors published in the Postgraduate Medical Journal in 1973.

    According to that report, Barbieri had walked into the University Department of Medicine at the Royal Infirmary of Dundee, Scotland, more than a year before, looking for help. He was “grossly obese” at the time, according to his doctors, weighing 456 pounds. The doctors put him on a short fast, thinking it would help him lose some weight, though they didn’t expect him to keep it off.

  45. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Huawei security: Half its kit has ‘at least one potential backdoor’
    Huawei’s networking firmware is riddled with holes, according to a US security company.

  46. Tintarella di Luna

    I’m going to post a series of stories showing not only how desperate for money the ATO (therefore, Treasury and the Cabinet) are for money, but the scary level of police state investigative powers the ATO has.

    In this last year these two things happened: The Sunbather, a small business owner and a taxpayer of almost 50 years had his bank account garnisheed – first time ever. There as an amount to be paid, he’d made an attempt to pay what was owed in full because payment is always made in full and because he’d a luddite and banking technology is not his strong suit the payment didn’t go through — the next day, office manager Tinta discovered the error and paid the amount in full but overnight the bloodsuckers at the ATO had garnisheed part of his personal banking account.

    Last Friday 21 June the may wages figures were due to be lodged which the accountant did and late Friday afternoon sent me through the amount to be paid. I don’t go in Mondays but Monday I had a call from the ATO asking me why the amount hadn’t been paid. I explained that it would be paid in full the following day because Monday is usually my day off.

    What concerns me now is that small businesses with more than 4 employees have to use this new thing called STP – Single Touch Payroll where you report every payroll the tax and super of all employees directly to the ATO. So that’s another piece of bureaucracy that will be an imposition on small businesses — I don’t really give a damn except I know it’s all about control and I just can’t stand all this interference with how we run our business. If the taxes we pay were used to provide a new coal-fired power station for cheaper energy, or some new dams or heaven forfend a nuclear power station in a few states, I might not mind so much but as has been observed by someone else no matter what – bureaucracy is the slime that’s left behind in the wake of and reform or revolution.

    I will have to look into it next week. Thanks for nothing ya bozzos

  47. Bruce of Newcastle

    Volcano news.

    Yellowstone’s steamboat geyser is incredibly active right now, and we don’t know why (27 Jun)

    Mostly, the eruptions suggest that now is a particularly good time to go see Steamboat Geyser blow its lid. The geyser set a record for total number of eruptions in 2018, with 32 in the calendar year, according to USGS. Already in 2019, there have been 24 eruptions, six of them in June as of this writing.

    If Yellowstone decides to do its nut Gaia will be out in the cold. So will the US of A.

    Bubbling mud pool forces New Zealand family to flee home (28 Jun)

    Susan Gedye, who lives in the North Island town of Rotorua, woke up in the early hours of Tuesday morning thinking she was experiencing an earthquake. “I got woken up about 2 a.m. thinking ‘oh, there’s a huge earthquake happening here,’ there was a lot of shaking and jolting,” she told Radio New Zealand.

    As the shaking continued, she went into her kitchen to investigate, looked out of the window and saw “a big geyser coming out of the ground,” she told the local news station.

    By Tuesday morning, the mud pool had become much bigger, and Rotorua Lakes Council said it had also noticed some “ground collapse” in the area. Gedye and her family were moved out of the property as a safety precaution, as the pool continued to grow, steaming, bubbling and throwing wet mud.

    By Thursday, the pool had started to engulf the resident’s garage, the council said.

    Bummer. Does insurance cover smelly volcanoes coming up under one’s house?

  48. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    If Yellowstone decides to do its nut Gaia will be out in the cold

    Phrasing.

    H/T Knuckle Dragger.

  49. Shy Ted

    ScoMo must have accidentally done something right
    Accidentally being the key word.

  50. 132andBush

    Winston Smith

    #3066187, posted on June 29, 2019 at 4:58 pm

    Perth Trader:

    Ammonium sulphate….Toll Transport put 70 tonne in trucks and truck it from Kwinana sth of Perth to the iron ore mines in the north. I’ve often wondered what sort of bang theyed make if the collided with a roadtrain of fuel.

    There is a story of one of those transports having fuelled up, failed to secure the cap. At 100km/hr the entire 300l? tank of diesel siphoned out into the load.
    Then it exploded at some point along the road in the NT/SA wherever and dug a ginormous crater in the highway.
    At the same time, a motorcyclist went missing. Several years later the front end of his bike was found embedded in a tree about 2miles off the highway. It was assumed he was overtaking the IED when it went off.
    I don’t know the truth of it, but sounds feasible.

    I’d say it would need to be Ammonium Nitrate and even if it was and did explode the product is not in a condensed enough state to make a really big hole etc. Yes it would go bang but not KABOOM!

    I may be wrong, BoN could confirm.

  51. Bruce in WA

    Black Guys Drive a Car Like This

    There’s a young bloke near where I live who has bought an Audi SUV (newish). It sports a lift kit, massive chromed wheels they look to be around 23″ diameter) … and the lowest profile tyres I have ever seen. The sidewalls can’t be more than 10 cm high.

    In the name of all that is holy … why?

  52. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Last Friday 21 June the may wages figures were due to be lodged which the accountant did and late Friday afternoon sent me through the amount to be paid. I don’t go in Mondays but Monday I had a call from the ATO asking me why the amount hadn’t been paid. I explained that it would be paid in full the following day because Monday is usually my day off.

    The difference between the ATO and the ‘Ndrangheta is that the ‘Ndrangheta are more discreet and have better taste.

  53. John Constantine

    https://www.stockjournal.com.au/story/6244953/boxed-meat-exports-hit-record-434-billion-in-first-four-months-of-2019/?cs=5374&fbclid=IwAR2w9c0lmunv98XLKHsb6upxan3HznDQwbvs3OOVu4Am2AaFzdIEdl2fyNY

    The value of the lamb exports increased 32pc on last year to $937 million for the first four months of 2019.

    Strong international demand, supressed competition from NZ, a depreciating Australian dollar and the impacts of the drought on supply and domestic saleyard prices all contributed to the surge in value.

    Lamb export values averaged A$8.79 a kg, a lift of 11pc on 2018 and 16pc higher than the five-year average.

    North America continues to be the most valuable market for lamb, with the US importing $289 million so far in 2019. China was now the largest volume destination for Australian lamb.

    However, only 13pc (in value) of Chinese lamb imports from Australia are chilled versus 65pc of lamb exports to the US, which contributed to the US market being almost twice the value of China currently.

    The total value of the mutton market for 2019 year-to-April was $388 million, representing the third year in a row where there has been positive growth for the first four months of the year. Most of the growth was due to demand from China.

    Of course, once the chicom tyrant clears the pig plague and purges the small innefficient chinese pig producers, then the million animal piggery cities that replace them will produce the worlds cheapest pork, which australia will import and shut down our own industry.

  54. Whalehunt fun

    If the taxes we pay were used to provide a new coal-fired power station for cheaper energy, or some new dams or heaven forfend a nuclear power station

    A nuclear power plant should be sited in Canberra and every electorate that returns a Green
    People need to know that voting Greens means a nuclear power plant will be built next to them by the very cheapest renderer.

  55. 132andBush

    BoN,
    Big uptick in Volcanic activity triggered by the solar minimum.

  56. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Good idea Whale Hunt.

    The “wind farm for Warringah” isn’t as good as a “nuke power for Manly” push.

  57. Bruce in WA

    All right, who stole my parenthesis??

  58. Tintarella di Luna

    The difference between the ATO and the ‘Ndrangheta is that the ‘Ndrangheta are more discreet and have better taste

    Quite

  59. jupes

    Jay-sus. What did I do to deserve to be put alongside that obvious left-wing concern troll?

    LOL

    You haven’t noticed? Peas in an autistic pod.

  60. bespoke

    ruce in WA
    #3066225, posted on June 29, 2019 at 6:08 pm
    PM’s global breakthrough on tech

    SIMON BENSON

    Scott Morrison has secured an unprecedented global agreement to take on social media companies after compelling world leaders to act.

    Breaking (The Oz)

    Good by catallaxyfiles it was fun while it lasted.

  61. John Constantine

    He Went to Prison for Killing a Taliban Terrorist, Now He’s Seeking a Presidential Pardon

    https://townhall.com/columnists/micahrate/2019/06/18/sgt-derrick-miller-a-soldier-out-on-parole-has-hopes-for-a-presidential-pardon-n2548416

    But on his third and final deployment, Sgt. Miller’s life took a drastic change. While in Afghanistan, he identified an enemy combatant, a Taliban scout dressed as a civilian, that had slipped past American defenses. Pulling the man aside, Sgt. Miller began to interrogate him. During questioning, the enemy combatant lunged for his weapon in an attempt to disarm him. Acting in what most would consider self-defense, Sgt. Miller killed the man.
    CARTOONS | Bob Gorrell
    View Cartoon

    While two witnesses present acknowledged all of this in their initial written testimonies, the stress and pressure from the investigators and prosecution caused them to flip. One of the witnesses, an interpreter, was told that he would not be able to become an American citizen unless he changed his testimony. The other was told that he would be identified as an accomplice.

  62. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Okay, old article:

    https://www.smartcompany.com.au/finance/tax/ato-move-730000-small-businesses-single-touch-payroll-concern-compliance-costs/

    Why have ScoMo and his SFLs allowed this to happen?

    What is the point in pushing around a builder that employers maybe his son and son in law?

    Given the corruption seen prior at the ATO, it is hard for me not to assume there is a shady deal for MYOB or Xero etc.

  63. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    One of the witnesses, an interpreter, was told that he would not be able to become an American citizen unless he changed his testimony. The other was told that he would be identified as an accomplice.

    You can only hope the military justice system totally wallops these arsewipe MPs or prosecutors.

  64. Bruce of Newcastle

    A nuclear power plant should be sited in Canberra

    Sadly not enough water.
    Still, Canberra is a great place to put wind turbines.
    Lots and lots and lots of wind turbines!

  65. Shy Ted

    I’ve donated to Bernard a few times but no more. He’s just not winning and he won’t. The courts, media, pollies and the Wokes are not on our side. They favour. The precedent has been set for innocent men to go to jail and I dare say a decent lawyer could empanel a jury of quiet Australians. He’s a decorated veteran FFS. He could talk to a friend who could talk to another friend who has several friends he could talk to. Now go and wash your hands if you followed the link and read the comments.

  66. Bruce In WA:

    All right, who stole my parenthesis??

    I did.
    It tasted like chicken.
    Three week dead chicken.

  67. Frank

    The “wind farm for Warringah” isn’t as good as a “nuke power for Manly” push.

    Better yet is a de-radicalisation program. They go boom but bite as well.

  68. Pedro the Ignorant

    Mayfly, re the “gold and platinum asteroid”.

    I have been known to take a wild punt in the hope of striking the big one someday, and I know a couple of supposedly savvy mining men who fervently believe in Lassiters Lost Reef and have actually spent tens of thousands on aerial surveys of where they believe Lassiter legendary reef is located.

    Even this pair of ratbags are not silly enough to invest good money in snake oil merchants claiming to be able to capture the Golden Asteroid from out in deep space beyond Mars.

    I will not be attending the annual Diggers and Dealers gabfest and pissup this year, now retired from the mining game, and as much fun as D&D is, paying north of $1500 to partake is a bridge too far.

    As to the (unconfirmed) rumour that skimpies will be banned at D&D, I call bullshit.

    Various frightbats, shrews, harridans and termagants rant about banning skimpies every year, but they are a fixture in Kal, the gals themselves love the money that flows their way, and mining types are more than happy to frequent the various watering holes featuring the lovely lasses and part with their hard earned cash.

  69. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I’ve donated to Bernard a few times but no more. He’s just not winning and he won’t.

    I reckon he is not aggressive enough.

    I have had a quick look at the prism of his personal FaceBook page and in my opinion, Burn’s mind is a foetid open sewer. He says so much actionable stuff himself, he is nearly begging for a sadomasochistic lawsuit against him. The only issue stopping a shit train of lawfare against him is no one with standing would bother.

    Some of his stuff is cherry-picked, bigoted and smears all Christians, let alone anyone who is religious. His posts are akin to (but not of the same colour as) equivocating all gays with Jeffery Dahmer.

  70. Bruce of Newcastle

    132andBush – I’ve seen no data convincingly indicating a link between the solar cycles and vulcanism. It’s true we’re in a very quiet period for volcanoes for the last couple centuries. That probably annoys the climatistas who like invoking volcanoes to explain why global temperature isn’t rising.

    There’s some data suggesting a link between local vulcanism and temperature in places like Iceland because the sheer weight of ice can keep volcanoes from erupting. But even a kilometre of ice (10 MPa) is a small increase on the sort of pressures which occur in magma chambers (100+ MPa).

    A really decent volcanic eruption would ruin homo sapiens whole day.

  71. Shy Ted

    bespoke #3066265, posted on June 29, 2019 at 6:42 pm
    +100

  72. Tel

    There’s a young bloke near where I live who has bought an Audi SUV (newish). It sports a lift kit, massive chromed wheels they look to be around 23″ diameter) … and the lowest profile tyres I have ever seen. The sidewalls can’t be more than 10 cm high.

    Amateurs.

    There’s a mirror-finish gold-plated Lamborghini that does the rounds in Western Sydney.

    Between you and me … it may not be genuine gold.

  73. Nob

    Glastonbury punters complaining bitterly about 45 minutes queues for water after plastic bottle ban.

  74. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Bruce

    What’s the apparent mechanism for neutrinos or cosmic rays interacting with the core?

    I find this space weather stuff very interesting and massively under-researched.

    Lightning basically is a solar induced process; mainstream science has only recently asserted this.

  75. Shy Ted:
    Just washed my hands.
    This Burns character seems to have a lot of money to pursue his victims.
    …and I’ll leave it at that.

  76. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Just washed my hands.
    This Burns character seems to have a lot of money to pursue his victims.
    …and I’ll leave it at that.

    My nasty, cruel little mind came to the same conclusion.

  77. Leigh Lowe

    Nob

    #3066284, posted on June 29, 2019 at 7:00 pm

    Glastonbury punters complaining bitterly about 45 minutes queues for water after plastic bottle ban.

    Get woke.
    Be dessicated.

  78. Bruce in WA

    I did.
    It tasted like chicken.
    Three week dead chicken.

    Bastard! That was my supper!

  79. Bruce of Newcastle

    There’s a mirror-finish gold-plated Lamborghini that does the rounds in Western Sydney.

    Cool! When I was at uni there were two fine modded cars I’d see from time to time. One was a Mini fitted on all sides with that fake brick stuff people used to clad their houses with. Plus green plastic grass on the roof. Awesome!

    The other was back half of a VW Beetle with a front half RR Silver Ghost. Just magnificent.

  80. Dr Faustus

    I’d say it would need to be Ammonium Nitrate and even if it was and did explode the product is not in a condensed enough state to make a really big hole etc. Yes it would go bang but not KABOOM!

    Famers and gardners can be assured that ammonium sulphate won’t explode.

    Not sure about product from Kwinana, but a 50 tonne truckload of AN crashed, burned and ultimately exploded near Charleville in 2014. The technical cause of the explosion was never exactly determined, but the blast shredded the truck and had sufficient force to be picked up on seismographs – IIRC estimated to be the equivalent of 10 tonnes of TNT.

  81. Roger

    ScoMo has reportedly spent time comforting the family of Australian useful idiot Alek Sigley.

    No oxygen expended on Israel and Maria though.

  82. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    One was a Mini fitted on all sides with that fake brick stuff people used to clad their houses with. Plus green plastic grass on the roof.

    It’s still better than the pommy thing of putting the husband and wife’s names on the windscreen.

  83. Eyrie

    “Will that asteroid be under discussion? The one reputed to be made up of $$$$ bazillions to the power of 10 worth of gold and platinum. If captured and brought back it would totally destroy financial systems.”

    Pretty much the ending of the third of the Rosinante trilogy by Alexis A. Gilliland. Our heroes of Mundito Rosinante, a space colony, capture and use giant mirrors to zone refine a gold bearing asteroid. Fun reads.

  84. zyconoclast

    From 2015

    Cris Carter told NFL rookies to get ‘a fall guy,’ NFL says ‘inappropriate’

    “Just in case y’all not going to decide to do the right thing, if y’all got a crew, you got to have a ‘fall guy’ in the crew,” Carter said.

    The video has since been deleted from the NFL’s website, although the clip of Carter doling out that specific piece of advice still exists on the Internet.

    Carter’s message also included the lesson on how “to get around” getting in trouble.

    “I let my own boys know … y’all want to keep rolling like this,” Carter says in the video. “Then I need to know who’s going to be the fall guy, who’s going to be driving. Y’all not going to do all the right stuff now. I got to teach y’all how to get around all this stuff.”

    It might be a realistic issue young men will face in the NFL, but the league — clearly — didn’t like the message it provided. The NFL deleted the video and said in a statement that it was “an unfortunate and inappropriate comment.”

    2 minute video

  85. Roger

    Glastonbury punters complaining bitterly about 45 minutes queues for water after plastic bottle ban.

    Understandable; Bristol reached a blistering 28C today.

  86. zyconoclast

    I thinks this should be considered unfair due to misleading advertising. Look at the name of the airline.

    LOW FLYING CLEAVAGE Mum booted off EasyJet flight for showing too much cleavage

    The make-up artist, who was not wearing a bra but had nipple covers and tape…

    Harriet, of Southwold, Suffolk, said: “I never show my body off at home but I felt spontaneous as I was on holiday. It made me feel so self-conscious.”

  87. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bruce
    What’s the apparent mechanism for neutrinos or cosmic rays interacting with the core?

    Dot – Cosmic rays mainly do harikiri as soon as they hit the upper atmosphere. Humungously energetic protons hitting nitrogen molecules is like a whale landing on a mouse. The splat is what we detect at ground level.

    So cosmic rays won’t ever reach the Earth’s core.

    As to neutrinos, they pretty much go right through the core like poo through a goose. They don’t do much. You may be alluding to this paper.

    I find this space weather stuff very interesting and massively under-researched.

    Very true. A supernova going off 100 Ly away would ruin homo sapiens‘ whole day more than Yellowstone.

    Lightning basically is a solar induced process; mainstream science has only recently asserted this.

    I think extraterrestrial radiation will seed lightning like seeding clouds (as show by CERN). But in the end a build up of massive static potential will cause lightning. What sets it off is secondary to the potential build up, which is just conventional electrostatics.

  88. areff

    Anyone seen the new Skoda ad. Little girl in the back seat is singing ‘Black Velvet’, which hardly seems appropriate given that its about performing oral sex on a dusky swain.

    Golly, I’m sounding like None.

  89. Atoms for Peace

    Just CRISPR coral to seek out precious dissolved minerals.

  90. Roger

    Global warming, indigenous art theft, Stonewall anniversary all feature on ABC QLD TV news and all delivered in a tone of moral superiority.

    Their ratings continue to plummet.

    It’s a mystery.

  91. Frank

    LOW FLYING CLEAVAGE Mum booted off EasyJet flight for showing too much cleavage

    Harriet would like to be a model one imagines.

  92. cohenite

    GIVE ME THE DRUM ON NADH ETC.

    No one wants to get old or die.

    Take some SARMs.

  93. zyconoclast

    Missing University of Utah student Mackenzie Lueck was murdered, police say

    Salt Lake man texted her, met her at park before killing her, police say…

    Ayoola Adisa Ajayi, 31, was taken into custody at 9:20 a.m…

  94. egg_

    Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers

    It’s not uncommon to squeeze the Engineering ‘cost’ side of the biz in such Multinationals.

  95. Tel

    It’s not uncommon to squeeze the Engineering ‘cost’ side of the biz in such Multinationals.

    You can always save money on testing because the customers end up testing it one way or another. 😉

  96. Bruce of Newcastle

    “Will that asteroid be under discussion? The one reputed to be made up of $$$$ bazillions to the power of 10 worth of gold and platinum.

    GM is referring to this story:

    NASA headed towards giant golden asteroid that could make everyone on Earth a billionaire

    Someone has forgotten the King Midas story!
    Psyche 16 is an interesting place but. So I forgive NASA their hyperbolic hyperbole. The similar Ceres mission has been fascinating.

    Dwarf planet Ceres’ ‘lonely mountain’ mystery has been solved (22 Jun)

    It’s fun that NASA announces an old mud volcano on Ceres the week a mud volcano erupts in the backyard of a Kiwi (see upthread).

  97. twostix

    The bridge, on the Mitchell Highway freight route, was blown away in September when a truck carrying 50 tonnes of ammonium nitrate crashed and exploded.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-22/angellala-creek-bridge-destroyed-truck-blast-fixed-by-november/6411440

  98. Roger

    File under ‘Public servants diligently serving the public good’:

    After the 2016 federal election, 18,343 people were asked to explain why their names had been crossed off more than once. Some 7,743 allegations of voter fraud were referred to the Australian Federal Police, only 65 were investigated, and none was prosecuted.

    RTWT

  99. Tel

    The bridge, on the Mitchell Highway freight route, was blown away in September when a truck carrying 50 tonnes of ammonium nitrate crashed and exploded.

    Yeah … note that ammonium nitrate is the dangerous one … whole ammonium sulphate is generally not much to worry about. That’s my high-school chemistry in operation!

  100. zyconoclast

    Parents of boy attacked at Mall of America bare anguish over extent of injuries, uncertainty of recovery

    The 5-year-old Woodbury boy who survived being thrown from a third-floor balcony at the Mall of America remains in intensive care due to severe complications from the attack, his parents said in an update this week on their GoFundMe page.

    “Up until now we have let our hopes govern what we have revealed to the public,” the Tuesday post stated. “However, the injuries and severe complications have now resulted in more than 15 separate medical procedures or surgeries, including surgeries for two broken arms and a broken leg, removal of his spleen, procedures for fluid in his lungs and stomach, as well as for facial and skull fractures; and just this past weekend, he had a stent placed in a vein that runs through his liver because of the serious complications he continues to endure.”

    The boy, publicly identified only as Landen, has been in intensive care since he was thrown nearly 40 feet to the ground by 24-year-old Emmanuel Aranda on April 12.

  101. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ayoola Adisa Ajayi, 31, was taken into custody at 9:20 a.m…

    Mr AAA had an interesting request for a tradie.

    Fox News Exclusive: Suspect in Mackenzie Lueck slaying wanted secret room with wall hooks built, contractor claims

    Basement room with hooks on the wall? Hmm…

  102. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    You can always save money on testing because the customers end up testing it one way or another. 😉

    the bill gates doctrine

  103. cohenite

    The Thuringian flagellants and the green gluers

    Tony Letford The Spectator Australia 29 June 2019

    Those young men and women who have taken to gluing themselves to walls and roads in order to save the planet have probably not heard of the Flagellants of Thuringia. In 14th-century Europe, the arrival of the plague was interpreted as a sign that God was not happy and that the end of days was approaching. In Thuringia in Southern Germany people decided they could save themselves by forming penitential groups who marched around town whipping themselves with leather thongs with nails attached.

    The similarities between the flagellants and the gluers are unmistakable. Just as the flagellants believed that the world was about to end so the gluers are convinced that unless we stop burning coal we are all doomed and, just as the flagellants believed that by mutilating themselves they would be saved, so the gluers believed that by sticking themselves to walls, they will save not only themselves but the planet.

    Throughout the Middle Ages in Europe, millennial cults prophesying the end of the world emerged like Godzilla from some primeval swamp and brought chaos and destruction to communities.

    The pursuit of the Millenium, by Norman Cohn, first published in 1957, remains perhaps the most influential study of this strange topic and argues that, from the fall of the Roman Empire until the middle of the nineteenth century, religious cults emerged in Europe prophesying either the catastrophic end of days or that heaven on earth was in reach of the cult adherents. According to Cohn, now forgotten groups such as the Bogomils, the Albigensians and the Flagellants of Thuringia ‘can be seen… to bear a startling resemblance to the great totalitarian movements of our day’. Cohn wrote this in the 1950s and the totalitarian movements he was then referring to were, of course, Communism and Fascism…..

    Contemporary socialist greenies gluing themselves to roads are probably motivated by a quasi-religious devotion to the same sort of vague ideals that inspire animal liberationists to vandalise chicken farms. The greenies of course want to save the planet. Even wretched people like you and me are entitled to salvation.

    The animal liberationists are different. Their sole concern is to save the pigs or sheep; whichever form of protein they are attached to. They are not millenarians. They are more concerned with the fate of the inhabitants of a chook shed than the fate of humanity. I would rather see vegans in charge of the planet than the socialists. With the former, you know they will leave you alone as long as you leave their pets alone. The socialists will not rest until you share their world view.

    Interesting issue: is veganism worse than alarmism. Probably a moot point since the overlap between the 2 wretched groups would be almost complete.

  104. Nick

    Golly, I’m sounding like None.

    Was BV shaved?

  105. cohenite

    zyconoclast

    #3066323, posted on June 29, 2019 at 7:48 pm

    Parents of boy attacked at Mall of America bare anguish over extent of injuries, uncertainty of recovery

    Terrible. Seems to have been a member of the RoP.

  106. 132andBush


    The bridge, on the Mitchell Highway freight route, was blown away in September when a truck carrying 50 tonnes of ammonium nitrate crashed and exploded.

    Yeah … note that ammonium nitrate is the dangerous one … whole ammonium sulphate is generally not much to worry about. That’s my high-school chemistry in operation!

    It caught fire and then went bang.
    If that amount of NH4NO3 were properly mixed with diesel and in a compact container, say a tanker, the explosion would have completely vaporized the bridge and any vehicles and left a crater worth bragging about.

    It’s a shame we can’t readily get it as a fertilizer any more, it’s a source of slow release and immediately available N for plants.

  107. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sympathies Tinta, re the Tax Office nightmare. Just had a private complaint to Cassie about the perils of modern life when they are trying to force everyone online for everything; my beef at present being Optus, and making payment for one of my sons, the vaguely autistic one who has never been able to do forms. They seem to have stopped their telephone payment option, which for me was always easy and efficient. As with the Sundowner, Hairy can also occasionally make an internet mistake; I’ve just found out that he’s booked us into the week long Wagner Ring Cycle to take place in November in Brisbane. Sadly, he neglected to note that the booking is for 2020, not this year! They will hang on to thousands of $ of our cash till then. Perhaps that is what it takes to secure the tickets though, so no worries.

    I HATE APPS. I also hate being made to fill in endless online one size fits all forms for everything. Like Joh’s one size fits all approach to Kittehs of a certain age.

    Hairy has just arrived back from the gym to hear my litany of Optus woes.
    You need a drink, he comforts.
    I spent some time this arvo (love Sat’dy arvo!) in his arms with my head on his hairy chest, which I adore, saying there is a mean woman on the internet saying ‘things’ about my body. He does an LOL, sweet when he does that. Now you’re worried about someone who’s never even seen you, he chuckles.

    So … now she thinks I have slowly deflating falsies. Imaginative, that girl.
    They aren’t false, Joh. Just nourished, by oestrogen and the love of a good man. 🙂
    Hairy would never put up with falsies. A man of discriminating tastes.

    Joh is obsessed with boobies, no? I have just written a short story about an era when that obsession was very current, the 1950’s. It features boobies. Oh, and some other things too about the times.

    If not for Quadrant, then the maybe the start for a novel. Apres Arthur, of course.

  108. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’s a shame we can’t readily get it as a fertilizer any more, it’s a source of slow release and immediately available N for plants.

    The RoP likes it for fast release and immediately available N for humans.

  109. Geriatric Mayfly

    Too many sums in Chemistry for me to ever get beyond making lead sinkers. However, I am aware that Nitrogen is an inert gas. Why then does it become such a villain when compounded with other assorted ingredients?

  110. zyconoclast

    Terrible. Seems to have been a member of the RoP.

    I’m not sure about RoP. He is definitely (not fakely) mentally disturbed.

  111. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lizzie – Get a form from Optus for direct debit. Set it up then forget about it. Works fine, and they email you each month in case you care, which I don’t generally.

  112. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh copy of the Speccie has just arrived, Cohenite, and I will devour that article you mention above.

    The older I get the more I become aware of just how much lunacy and silliness has always pervaded human existence. You gotta laugh. 🙂

    How goes it in Cuba, Dr. BG, an enlightenment rationalist of the limited internet and huge cigar intake?

  113. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    our copy

  114. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bruce, I had it on longtime for direct debit, but my card is either expired or gone haywire and I am not sure which card I used. I can’t seem to contact them in any way to remedy this. Their website is useless for contact, as none of my four complaints will submit with the submit button. It’s probably down.

    I will try calling them tomorrow using telephonic methods, which they seem to be resisting as strongly as humanly possible. This is the future calling.

  115. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Apparently, they’re going to have a government issued “porn card” in the UK, to “protect minors”.

    I can’t imagine this being abused by the government, or anyone being doxxed and so on…

  116. Bruce of Newcastle

    However, I am aware that Nitrogen is an inert gas. Why then does it become such a villain when compounded with other assorted ingredients?

    Hey, teacher I know this one! Because it likes being an inert gas! When you turn it into something else, like ammonium nitrate, or hydrazine, or lead azide, it gets very grumpy.

    One day we made silver nitride accidentally in our lab and blew up a graduate chemical engineer. A 5L beaker of silver nitrate and ammonia exploded. Glass everywhere. Fortunately she survived with nothing more than a bad case of hysterical giggles. I believe she’s fairly senior in a certain company now.

  117. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Ron Paul Talks Julian Assange, Trump, And Iran

    The Jimmy Dore Show
    Published on Jun 29, 2019

  118. Dr Faustus

    Too many sums in Chemistry for me to ever get beyond making lead sinkers. However, I am aware that Nitrogen is an inert gas. Why then does it become such a villain when compounded with other assorted ingredients?

    GM: It’s not the Nitrogen that’s the villain.
    [No more. We live in strange times and public discussions about these things are not safe for the blog owner, or the bloggers.]

  119. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bruce, I had it on longtime for direct debit, but my card is either expired

    Lizzie, expired I’d think. Set it up direct debit from a bank account and it’ll be fine. It isn’t going to be huge. I pay nearly top plan for Optus landline/NBN and it’s barely worth noticing. Just make sure whatever plan is infinite data so you don’t get excess issues (about $10 a month more).

  120. Leigh Lowe

    Yeah … note that ammonium nitrate is the dangerous one … whole ammonium sulphate is generally not much to worry about. That’s my high-school chemistry in operation!

    Is there a difference between sodium nitrate and sodium chloride.
    I am about to heat up my smelting furnace and need to know.

  121. Farmer Gez

    On the BoM site under Climate they have a map of the chance of receiving 10mm of precipitation for the period July-September.
    Quite a big bit of Australia has an 85% chance of this happening.
    How about that for money well spent on climate research!

  122. Dr Faustus

    Is there a difference between sodium nitrate and sodium chloride.
    I am about to heat up my smelting furnace and need to know.

    None whatsoever.
    In either case you can invite your friends and neighbours to join your family around the furnace door.

    It’s all phlogiston, after all.

  123. Bruce of Newcastle

    I am about to heat up my smelting furnace and need to know.

    Don’t use sodium nitrate in a smelting furnace.
    Either it isn’t a smelting furnace or you’ll explode.

  124. None

    Golly, I’m sounding like None.

    😎

  125. Ellie

    its about performing oral sex on a dusky swain
    Not sure it is. There is reference to getting on one’s knees.
    The song was about Elvis Presley, I thought.
    “A new religion that will bring you to your knees.” Apparently the idea for that line came after realizing that Elvis’ affect on fans was similar to what churchgoers would feel after being exhorted by Fundamentalist preachers.
    Here’s a smooth version of BV, Nick and areff.
    Black Velvet

  126. Atoms for Peace

    1972..Stonecroft Station Fitzroy Development road..ammonium nitrate explosion. Nasty stuff

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    Apropos of a conversation the other night, and the article on DJT upthread:

    Bernardi should be wallpapering that excerpt over his Dr Hook posters on his bedroom wall.

    Nice guys end up still being nice, but last. Go out and kick someone in the nuts or something.

  128. Leigh Lowe

    Bruce and the Doc.
    Facetious question.
    Simsmetal blew up a scrap metal furnace in Melbourne in 1986, killing four workers I think.
    The practice was to throw sodium chloride (salt) on top of the molten metal if it started to froth and bubble a bit.
    Rumour has it that some bright spark ordered bags of Sodium Nitrate by mistake from China with no English labelling.
    Fizzing.
    Throw a bit on.
    Really fizzing now.
    Throw a shitload more on.
    Bang.
    Flattened the building.
    I still remember the photo of one of the poor bastards standing there with all his clothes burnt off.
    Chemistry matters.

  129. None

    areff is probably thinking of Brown Sugar but it is good to think about what you put into your head to your senses. 🙄

  130. C.L.

    I was just reading a pretty interesting story about why Germans are protective about Angela Merkel’s health and privacy. (BBC).

    I clicked the link for the article’s concluding comparison with President Kennedy. (PBS).

    Here’s what he was taking every single day, according to the official archives (made available to researchers in 2002):

    DR. JEFFREY KELMAN:

    By the time he was president, he was on ten, 12 medications a day. He was on antispasmodics for his bowel, paregoric, lamodal transatine [ph], he was on muscle relaxants, Phenobarbital, Librium, Meprobomate, he was on pain medications, Codeine, Demerol, Methadone, he was on oral cortisone; he was on injected cortisone, he was on testosterone, he was on Nembutal for sleep. And on top of that he was getting injected sometimes six times a day, six places on his back, by the White House physician, with Novocain, Procaine, just to enable him to face the day.

  131. Leigh Lowe

    KD, I saw the Pom cricketers pressers on TV today.
    They have – how you say? – mentally disintegrated.
    Bitching, snarking, whingeing.
    I reckon they are gone.

  132. None

    Black Velvet was inspired by Elvis Presley whose portrait used to be frequently painted on black velvet and used a black hair dye by the same name.

  133. Mother Lode

    Regarding Cohenite’s post above:

    Trump’s lack of decorum, dignity and statesmanship
    I don’t care. I can’t do without this President. He fights for America.
    Evan Sayet
    My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if I’m not bothered by Donald Trump’s lack of decorum. They ask if I don’t think his tweets are “beneath the dignity of the office.” Here’s my answer.
    We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush, as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.
    We tried statesmanship.
    Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain?
    We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?
    And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.

    The reason the left is so mortified is because they need their opponents to hamstring themselves with dignity, decency and propriety so they will have an edge.

    They have become perfectly adept at a precise strategy, but just that one. They can play on the meekness and altruism of their opponents. Trump is the harbinger of a new style of opponent. One that treats the left according to what they (the left) are, rather than according to what they themselves (the right) are.

    So, does this means the conservatives have surrendered their nature in order to fight this fight?

    Possibly, to an extent. But opposition to the political left is a tiny part of a conservative’s life. A conservative’s life is focussed on family, friends, community etc.they have just had to change the style of their argument as they acknowledge the left are not interested in a contest in good faith. They lie? You call them a liar, out loud. They are hypocrites? You pin them to the spot and denounce them as hypocrites. They feign concern for a group to embarrass you? You tell that group they are being used.

    The left has sophistry but lacks insight. The rhetoric of caring, but no empathy. Loquatious honour, but no tiny voice of self-criticism.

    They are terrified of a fair contest because they are so ill-equipped and out of condition.

  134. Mother Lode

    Blockquote fail above.

  135. areff

    Ok, I’ll concede it could be about Elvis, probably is. But it’s clear her wish is to assume a subordinate position and worship The King, no doubt orally, in that “slow southern style”.

    It’s a filthy song

  136. Leigh Lowe

    Interesting C.L.
    I did know that he was on meds but, fuck, that looks like an inventory of Keef Richards bathroom cabinet.
    I wonder what the post mortem pathology at Bethesda in November 1963 showed up.
    And whether it was suppressed as “not relevant”.

  137. Knuckle Dragger

    Missed them LL.

    Not surprising though. Real captains like Atherton and Vaughan were slaying them on Tweeter yesterday.

    With good reason. Ponces.

  138. C.L.

    Black Velvet is about Elvis.
    —————
    Mississippi in the middle of a dry spell
    Jimmy Rodgers on the Victrola up high
    Mama’s dancin’ with baby on her shoulder
    The sun is settin’ like molasses in the sky
    The boy could sing, knew how to move ev’rything
    Always wanting more, he’d leave you longing for
    Black velvet and that little boy smile
    Black velvet with that slow southern style
    A new religion that’ll bring you to your knees
    Black velvet if you please
    Up in Memphis the music’s like a heat wave
    White Lightnin’ bound to drive you wild
    Mama’s baby’s in the heart of ev’ry school girl
    “Love Me Tender” leaves ’em cryin’ in the aisle
    The way he moved, it was a sin, so sweet and true
    Always wanting more, he’d leave you longing for
    Black velvet and that little boy smile
    Black velvet…

  139. Dr Faustus

    …he was on testosterone…

    A bit of a surprise.

  140. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And on top of that he was getting injected sometimes six times a day, six places on his back, by the White House physician, with Novocain, Procaine, just to enable him to face the day.

    Seymour Hersh’s book “The Dark Side Of Camelot” points out that, for whatever reason, JFK was wearing a fairly solid back brace in Dallas that day, which severely restricted his mobility, and made Lee Harvey Oswald’s mission a lot easier…

  141. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sad to hear that one Leigh.
    I’ve never been in that position fortunately.
    Once I told some guys who had the bright idea of buying sodium metal in bulk more cheaply, melting it down then casting it into more convenient lumps, that after you spill molten sodium everywhere whatever you do do not hose it.
    They hosed it.

  142. Ellie

    It’s a filthy song

    Now you are sounding like None 😁

  143. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    How did Kennedy get through the war?

    He wouldn’t have a physician and dispensary out in the middle of the ocean.

  144. Leigh Lowe

    Yeah KD.
    Vaughan pointed out that the eleven inside the rope lost the games, not the blokes ten rows back in the bleachers.
    Here’s the thing.
    Abusive sledges are no longer cricket, but I can imagine the Kiwis in particular serving up the Poms’ own words in a whiny girly voice.

  145. areff

    OK, it’s about Elvis.

    But it’s still filthy and a little girl shouldn’t be singing it.

    Sometime Elvis’ cigar is not just a cigar.

  146. Leigh Lowe

    Frank, it was the war that caused (or at least aggravated) JFK’s bad back.

  147. Steve trickler

    Do these clips encourage or discourage people to visit India? Either way, he walks into the guts of the joint and susses it out, brilliantly.

    Speaking the language, sure helps.



  148. Dr Faustus

    Sometime Elvis’ cigar is not just a cigar.

    Sometimes it’s a Mars Bar.

  149. Leigh Lowe

    BoN, the other one to look for melting scrap was the coke can.
    Amazing, but that tiny capsule of air when thrown into a furnace of molten metal expands yuuugely and quickly and tends to explode molten metal in all directions.
    Steptoe and Son scrap metal dealers weren’t always as diligent as they might have been in sorting and shredding.

  150. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Frank, it was the war that caused (or at least aggravated) JFK’s bad back.

    The “bad back” dated from 1937, but his father seems to have “pulled a few strings” to get into the Navy..

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Ah, OK, ZK2A.
    I thought he at least aggravated it in WW2.

  152. Leigh Lowe

    Regarding the meds dished out to JFK.
    Michael Jackson’s doctor went to jail for less.
    Maybe Oswald saved the White House quack from some embarrassment.

  153. Knuckle Dragger

    Bloke got his jaw broken for him today.

    Came in at No.3, scratched around for 15 or so then edged, smacked and then edged again for three fours in a row off a tallish wiry quick. I thought, well this won’t last long.

    Then the batsman ditched his helmet for the wide brimmed hat. Cheeky, I thought, I’d do that but only if I wasn’t batting like dogshit.

    Two balls later, he charged the quick who by this time had had a gutful and banged one in short. No.3 tried to hook on the charge.

    Ker-THOCK. The exact same sound made when you throw a shovel into a half full cement mixer. Flush, an inch in front of his right ear. Went down like a chick singing Black Velvet.

    By the time he could see again and got helped off the field half his head was all watermelonish. He’s still up at hospital – according to his mates post match he’s getting some internal bling in the form of screws and plates.

  154. Knuckle Dragger

    Bloke got his jaw broken for him today.

    Came in at No.3, scratched around for 15 or so then edged, smacked and then edged again for three fours in a row off a tallish wiry quick. I thought, well this won’t last long.

    Then the batsman ditched his helmet for the wide brimmed hat. Cheeky, I thought, I’d do that but only if I wasn’t batting like dogshit.

    Two b#lls later, he charged the quick who by this time had had a gutful and banged one in short. No.3 tried to hook on the charge.

    Ker-THOCK. The exact same sound made when you throw a shovel into a half full cement mixer. Flush, an inch in front of his right ear. Went down like a chick singing Black Velvet.

    By the time he could see again and got helped off the field half his head was all watermelonish. He’s still up at hospital – according to his mates post match he’s getting some internal bling in the form of screws and plates.

  155. C.L.

    Kennedy’s back issue was brought on by Addison’s Disease. So no, not caused by the war but his service didn’t help. Kennedy had no moral duty whatsoever to serve. He was a 4-F wreck. He used his father’s influence to get into the war. That’s pretty rare. He was a physically heroic individual, no question. Unfortunately, however, Camelot pizzazz swamps the faculties of intelligent men even now.
    My earlier link also included this Q&A:

    RAY SUAREZ:

    Can you, from the distance of 40 years, from what you were able to look at, his X-rays, his medical records, his prescriptions, talk about whether or how these illnesses affected his performance?

    DR. JEFFREY KELMAN:

    We went to a lot of trouble, I mean, you can make a time line at the Kennedy Library looking at day by day, sometimes hour by hour, the history of the Kennedy presidency. And in correlating it as well as you could with the medical records, didn’t seem to have affected his presidency at all. His judgment wasn’t warped, in spite of the fact that he seemed to be in pain a great deal of the time, it didn’t affect his performance as president. In certain ways I came out of it thinking he was a heroic character.

    This, of course, is total bullshit.
    A man in extreme pain and on multiple drugs should not be weighing up whether or not to invade Cuba and might even be more inclined than a healthy man to order interns to fellate senior staff (which Kennedy ordered Mimi Alford to do). Returning from the Vienna Summit, Kennedy required crutches and is said to have been “glassy-eyed.” History shows both the Cuba incursion and the meeting with Khrushchev were disasters. Kelman’s claim that Kennedy’s physical state was not an issue is obviously questionable.

  156. Bruce of Newcastle

    Wince. I wouldn’t wish that on a bowler. Tormenting, even if it was the batsman’s silly fault.

  157. Knuckle Dragger

    Collingwood currently being subjugated in the woodshed with barbed wire and pliers by North Melbourne.

    Mongs.

  158. Nick

    Heh Mongs is a term most under used.

  159. Tintarella di Luna

    Sorry if this has ben covered but I’ve just read that the sad-eyed vinegar tits is going bring out a book – an edited extract in the Oz today – apprently it’s to be called Plots and Prayers another one for the remainder basket judging by the rather acerbic comments all 443 of them

  160. BrettW

    From the DM, Coming to an Oz festival soon :

    A move to ban water bottles at Glastonbury has left festival-goers complaining about having to queue for as much as an hour just to refill their reusable containers.

    The organisers of the festival, which is held at Worthy Farm, in Shepton Mallet, Somerset, were praised for the move to ban the sale of plastic bottles, which was aimed at reducing the amount of plastic used by the 200,000 people who attend.

    However, as temperatures soared to 82F yesterday, thirsty revellers complained about the length of the queues, with one woman saying, ‘we need more places to get water’ as some waited an hour to fill up.

    And paramedic teams from South Western Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust reported they have treated 70 patients over the past two days for a mixture of heat-related and medical cases.

  161. Bruce of Newcastle

    The urban dictionary say a mong is a total spastic.
    Snowflakes obviously don’t use the urban dictionary.
    Then looking up ‘spastic’ it gets even better.

  162. cohenite

    That scheming, treasonous bitch, may, has her revenge for Brexit castigated by the Lords; of course the stupidity of her (sic) government can’t be underestimated:

    Last night, Peers rebuked the Government for committing the UK to a Net Zero emissions target with little scrutiny and no plan for how it might be achieved.

    The Chancellor has warned that the cost of reducing net greenhouse emissions to zero by 2050 could be well in excess of £1 trillion. The sum would fund the salaries of 314,000 nurses for a century.

    On Monday, MPs were happy to nod through the measure in less than 90 minutes. As a Statutory Instrument, it only required minimal scrutiny and no impact assessment had to be prepared.

    The net zero emissions target is likely to do enormous harm to the poorest people in society who will be asked to pay relatively more for their energy and could be priced out of activities such as driving cars and flying abroad.

    Not a single MP spoke out against the proposal, instead, they all congratulated themselves on how Britain was ‘leading the world’.

  163. egg_

    Plots and Prayers

    Malcolm who?

  164. None

    Tinta – the funny think about the Cypriot peasants book is that she had to rewrite it because it was written with the assumption of a shortened wing and given Paul Kelly’s revelations this week on Turnbull’s threat to create a constitutional crisis she had to get Joe Kelly out in the papers trying to say I will but this fits in with the Cypriot peasants information from Christopher Pyne. I actually read her very first book So Greek which was funny in places but I still finished with this thought that she was an entitled Lefty after all. For example when she was The Bureau chief for Fairfax in Canberra her sister was sick and she got really missed when her employer got a bit jacked off with her taking all that time off work and asked her to move on. It was after that that Costello offered her a job and she noted that she was very grateful for conservatives sympathy and she also talked him into spending public money to set up a thalassemia unit in Melbourne and a few other things I think. It was this Cavalier attitude that oh my god because my sister is sick I deserve to have a job held foe me forever where is the lefty compassion but hey while I’m being extended a few favours by the conservatives let me leech the public purse a little bit more for my priorities etc etc. A somewhat self-centred and I would say dishonest woman.

  165. Knuckle Dragger

    Okay – got ‘shortened wing’ as ‘Shorten win’.

    Cypriot Peasant’s rolled me though.

  166. Tintarella di Luna

    the Cypriot peasant

    oooooh now that’s a decrepition I’d never heard

  167. None

    Tinta

    Meanwhile, the news that Mr Turnbull is rewriting his life story promises hours of entertainment for fans of the nation’s favourite ‘miserable ghost’. The doorstopper, already 600 pages long, will be called A Bigger Picture, not A Bigger Ego as some might have imagined or The Secret Diary of a Coup Plotter, Aged 64 ¾.

    In other publishing news, it seems Niki Savva is not So Greek, as her first book claimed, as to avoid being knocked over by hubris on her very own Highway to Hell.  Her latest book, of that name, originally subtitled, The Coup that Destroyed Malcolm Turnbull and left the Liberal Party in Ruins, has had to be hastily rewritten.

    Before the election, Ms Savva took to the ABC to indulge in a little biting of the hand that feeds her, criticising the political coverage of the paper that publishes her, the Australian, and opining that ‘once you sacrifice your credibility for the sake of… whatever, then I think you get into real trouble.’ Indeed. Perhaps her book should be retitled, The Coup that Destroyed Malcolm Turnbull and left My Credibility in Tatters, but Ms Savva has opted for Plots and Prayers, which probably sums up the strategy of everyone to the left of Mr Turnbull who is trying to salvage their reputation.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/plots-and-prayers-on-a-highway-to-hell/amp/

  168. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    From the Australia of days gone by…..

    One of the ouens was narrating a yarn, from the shearing sheds of the 1970’s.

    The knuckle draggers of the union movement were touring the sheds, threatening the shearers with being [email protected] [email protected], if they didn’t join the union. One of the shearers – indigenous – leaned back and said “Well, that won’t bother me at all, but I dunno about you whitefellas…”

  169. Knuckle Dragger

    Flogged by seven goals, which should have been twelve.

    Those miserable bastards had better be at the St. Kilda pier by the time the WIP comes out.

  170. Dr Faustus

    I’ve just read that the sad-eyed vinegar tits is going bring out a book – an edited extract in the Oz today – apprently it’s to be called Plots and Prayers

    The publishers’ blurb runs:

    He was a good prime minister and a terrible politician. The good bits of Malcolm were not enough to make up for the bad Malcolm.

    The road ended in ruins, as it was always bound to and as he always knew it would, as he predicted to Niki Savva less than three years before it happened.

    But when his end was imminent, he could not bear to let go. And when it was over, he was defiant, fragile — and, yes — vengeful.

    Shorter: He was a political disaster; he always knew he was a disaster; and his supporters always knew he was a disaster. Right from the beginning.

    And he’s trying his very best to still be a disaster.

  171. None

    I’ve always called her the Cypriot peasant because that is what she is. She called her first book So Greek because she figured it would get more attention. Plus it relates to one time when Costello who’s getting really frustrated with her stibbornedd and just said “you’re so …so… Greek .”
    I’m happy to call her Greek I mean as I have always said : deport the Greeks.

  172. None

    Dr Faustus. See my post above. The book has been long planned and it was due to be called Highway to Hell and it was written on the assumption of a Shorten win. Already had to go through a part rewrite and a title change and even so it is hopelessly inadequate because the rule juicy bit about Turnbull trying to create a constitutional crisis only came out this week under Paul Kelly.

  173. egg_

    (a container of water) when thrown into a furnace of molten metal expands yuuugely and quickly and tends to explode molten metal in all directions.

  174. Tintarella di Luna

    Before the election, Ms Savva took to the ABC to indulge in a little biting of the hand that feeds her, criticising the political coverage of the paper that publishes her, the Australian, and opining that ‘once you sacrifice your credibility for the sake of… whatever, then I think you get into real trouble.’ Indeed. Perhaps her book should be retitled, The Coup that Destroyed Malcolm Turnbull and left My Credibility in Tatters, but Ms Savva has opted for Plots and Prayers, which probably sums up the strategy of everyone to the left of Mr Turnbull who is trying to salvage their reputation.

    Oh what a delicious take down

  175. egg_

    Wet scrap metal gets pops and bangs, too.

  176. Knuckle Dragger

    Savva.

    Right.

  177. C.L.

    Sorry if this has ben covered but I’ve just read that the sad-eyed vinegar tits is going bring out a book …

    You’ll have to be more specific; “sad-eyed vinegar tits” describes most women in Australian public life.

    ??

  178. Some History

    …because the rule juicy bit…

    Is your spell checker Kylie Mole? LOL

  179. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    sad-eyed vinegar tits” describes most women in Australian public life.

    Pretty good description of Bill Shorten.

  180. Tintarella di Luna

    You’ll have to be more specific; “sad-eyed vinegar tits” describes most women in Australian public life.

    Sorry C.L. if I’d added Haloumi Harridan would that have helped?

  181. Tintarella di Luna

    Sorry I’m being imprecise — Nikki Savva has a new book out – Plots and Prayers

  182. Tintarella di Luna

    Good heavens today’s article on the Israel Folau witch-hunt has over 2000 comments. People are very very upset by this overreach by Rugby Australia and QANTAS

  183. Knuckle Dragger

    Aussies batting against the Kiwis shortly.

    Warner, do us proud and fuck off without making a run.

  184. P

    Reading upthread, I for one, always admired Kennedy. He got us through the Cuban missile crisis.
    I was only 22yrs of age in that October of 1962.
    I’ll never forget that night in Oct when the missiles were expected to pass over Australia the very next day, as a trainee nurse how I sat out on the balcony of the Nurses Home with half a dozen friends, smoking cigs and drinking coffee, not knowing whether to go to bed or stay up all night. Not knowing if there would be a tomorrow. I’d come off duty at 11.15pm and my next shift was at 6.00am so I went to bed at about 2.30am.
    Next day turned out to be a wonderful day and Kennedy in our minds a wonderful President of the U.S.
    That’s how I saw it then. That’s how I remember it now.

  185. Leigh Lowe

    Wet scrap metal gets pops and bangs, too.

    That was another Steptoe hazard.
    The fuckers would bring scrap in 44 gallon drums and load them with water.
    Getting paid metal price for H2O is pretty tasty.
    Had to slam a pick through every 44 gallon drum to let tye water out.

  186. Leigh Lowe

    Been tough for the Bittered Sav.
    The supreme political analyst has had to re-write her book three times to re-align to reality.

  187. None

    Some History , I laughed myself when it came up with rule juicy but after looking up Kylie Mole I’m cracking up
    https://youtu.be/Vnuf9-zgdyw

  188. Tintarella di Luna

    The supreme political analyst has had to re-write her book three times to re-align to reality.

    But appears to have failed at every attempt

  189. jupes

    Collingwood currently being subjugated in the woodshed with barbed wire and pliers by North Melbourne.

    Bad for my multi. Good for West Coast.

    I’ll take it.

  190. None

    Which article on Israel Folau, Tinta?

  191. Leigh Lowe

    Kiwi cricketers?
    No haka?
    What?

  192. Knuckle Dragger

    Missiles passing over Australia?

    During the Cuban Missile Crisis?

    Er, what? Were we in the Arctic Circle then?

  193. Leigh Lowe

    Collingwood currently being subjugated in the woodshed with barbed wire and pliers by North Melbourne.

    Bad for my multi. Good for West Coast.

    Jayddynn Stephenson had $600 on North at 24+ points.

  194. jupes

    Why don’t the Poms play God Save The Queen as a Welcome to Country at every match for the WC?

  195. None

    Haloumi Harridan.
    loooool

  196. Knuckle Dragger

    Were Russian missiles being carried on Aeroflot cargo planes? Skylab?

  197. None

    What on earth was the purpose of throwing that water into that that is molten Steel? Wouldn’t it also threaten the Integrity of the steel that’s manufactured from that that? Is that why half our apartment buildings are falling down?

  198. Knuckle Dragger

    Did penguins play such a role they were targeted by the Kremlin?

    Were the missiles getting frequent flyer points?

    So many questions….

  199. Shorter: He was a political disaster; he always knew he was a disaster; and his supporters always knew he was a disaster. Right from the beginning.

    Not everyone thought that about Turdbull, Dr Faustus.
    One amongst us thought he had Potential Greatness.

    But I won’t mention any names.
    Being smoted might be painful.

  200. Tintarella di Luna

    This one None

    Lawyers on both sides of the Israel Folau legal war are steeling themselves for what promises to be a protracted battle in the Federal Court after settlement talks at the Fair Work Commission collapse­d yesterday.

    Folau was smiling and confid­ent as he headed into the commission meeting in Sydney yesterday.

    Surrounded by his own personal cheer squad of lawyers and “advisers”, the former Wall­aby tried to ignore the large media scrum but was clearly delighted when one supporter shouted at him: “Hey Izzy, God go with you brother, I’m praying for you.”

    But after four hours of fraught negotiations, Folau appeared far more subdued, telling waiting media he was “very, very dis­appointed with the outcome”.

    “I’d like to thank all those who have supported me throughout this time to stand up for the freedoms of all Australians,” he said.

    Rugby Australia and NSW Rugby Union said in a joint statement they were also “incredibly disappointed”, but defended their decision to terminate Folau’s contract: “We remain confident in our processes and will continue to do what is required to defend the value­s that underpin our game.”

    The failed conciliation talks pave the way for Folau to continue his high-stakes legal battle in the Federal Court, where he plans to sue RA and his former Super Rugby club, the Waratahs, for unlawful termination of his contract.

    The Federal Court action also sets the stage for Australia’s first judicial determination on whether an employee’s statutory rights to freedom of expression, including religion, trumps any contractual obligations to an employer.

    RA tore up Folau’s multi-­million-dollar contract last month after a three-person tribunal found he had breached its code of conduct with an Instagram post condemning “homosexuals, fornicators” and other “sinners … to hell” unless they repented.

    Folau’s legal team, commercial law firm Macpherson Kelley and Melbourne barrister Stuart Wood AM QC, is seeking $10 million in compensation for the termination of his $5m contract.

    In their application to the FWC, Folau’s lawyers said his ­religious devotion had “compelled” him “to communicate the word of God and the message contained­ within the Bible, the doing of which he considers to be a loving gesture to others”.

    It follows a week of escalating drama in the Folau saga after GoFundMe­ pulled the plug on Folau’s fundraising page, claiming his quest to raise a legal war chest so he could sue his employer for sacking him was a “violation” of the company’s values.

    The Australian Christian Lobby took over the fund on Tuesday, but the rush of support was so overwhelming that it put its fundraising on “pause’’ after raising more than $2m from more than 20,000 donors in just two days.

    On the eve of yesterday’s talks with the FWC, Folau further ­incensed RA chiefs in an interview with Alan Jones on Sky News by accusing RA of trying to buy his ­silence by offering him money to take down his Instagram post. That prompted an immediate denial from RA, which said his alleg­ations were “completely untrue”.

    Lawyers estimate it could take 18 months before Folau’s case is listed for hearing.

  201. Some History

    Some History , I laughed myself when it came up with rule juicy but after looking up Kylie Mole I’m cracking up

    Could you explain how your text is created. I take it that it involves voice recognition software?

  202. Knuckle Dragger

    I mean, I know they’re Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, but I was unaware they had to go over every continent before they hit their target.

  203. Some History

    Lawyers estimate it could take 18 months before Folau’s case is listed for hearing.

    WHAT!!?!??

  204. Leigh Lowe

    Shorter: He was a political disaster; he always knew he was a disaster; and his supporters always knew he was a disaster. Right from the beginning.

    I dispute that he knew he was a disaster.
    He played a human, political situation as if he was trying to win a technical argument in front Judge Pedantic of the High Court.

    “Get the petition. Oh, it isn’t on Quarto paper in accordance with the rules. No, you can’t call a meeting without 48 hours notice. I will bring the GG in because I know how he thinks.”

    Actually showed himself to be nothing more than a suburban solicitor trying to stall a property settlement wgen his client hasn’t got the cash.

  205. Knuckle Dragger

    Maybe the missiles were defecting.

  206. Tintarella di Luna

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3066458, posted on June 29, 2019 at 10:34 pm
    🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

  207. Tintarella di Luna

    Actually showed himself to be nothing more than a suburban solicitor trying to stall a property settlement wgen his client hasn’t got the cash.

    Bingo

  208. Some History

    Lawyers estimate it could take 18 months before Folau’s case is listed for hearing.

    WHAT!!?!??

    Warrants this reaction:
    From 0:34 – 0:40

  209. John64

    Anyway, the Bittered Sav’s scored a gig on the Insiders’ couch tomorrow; no doubt her soon to be released tome will get a plug or two in direct contravention of ABC editorial policy.

  210. cohenite

    The Federal Court action also sets the stage for Australia’s first judicial determination on whether an employee’s statutory rights to freedom of expression, including religion, trumps any contractual obligations to an employer.

    Peter Ridd and Bernard Gaynor would disagree. I don’t know where they get the 18 months; maybe they’re including the HC appeal.

  211. Leigh Lowe

    Lawyers estimate it could take 18 months before Folau’s case is listed for hearing.

    Lawyers estimate it will take 18 months to chew through $2 meg.

  212. Knuckle Dragger

    Well it won’t be next week SH.

    As with any court, first you need to find a hole in their listing schedule, which can be backed up for up to a year.

    Then you get to work out when everyone’s going to be available, ie everyone else except Folau will be in court for other stuff, mandatory court closures, holidays etc, and then factor in time for ‘preparation’ which is lawyer speak for charging your client shitloads while you sit in the Savage Club and talk about him to your mates.

    18 months sound just about right.

  213. Tintarella di Luna

    It’s hard to overstate the extent of the ridiculousness, overzealous subjectivity and downright hypo­crisy on both sides of the Israel Folau matter.

    This is a sentence from the divisive pap written by the Dropkick Professor in the Oz today –he’s getting a lot of erudite schooling in the comments. It was Rugby Australia that drew first blood on this not Folau.

    As one commenter said:

    If RA was demanding that Folau only have a secular presence on Facebook, then he would never have posted anything. But they didn’t. They were happy for him to share warm fuzzy aspects of his faith, the way all secular people are. It’s just when he used one word that they have deemed ‘out of bounds’ that they went for him.
    Maybe if the rainbow brigade were a bit less precious, there would have been no big deal. Now they have shown their true colours (pun intended).

  214. Knuckle Dragger

    Finch LBW.

    Again.

  215. duncanm

    Crowd funding a border wall will never work….

  216. Dance later?

    Evening Elle.
    You do realise you have conned me with that kind of line twice now.
    I know I’m slow on the uptake, but even I can take a hint – eventually.

    Sniff, sniff.

  217. Knuckle Dragger

    Guptill drops Khawaja first ball.

    Jeebus.

  218. None

    Thanks Tinta. I really hope he has got some good advisets around him because he really is so totally without guile and too many people see this case as an opportunity to set some precedents and while Israel may be thinking along those lines at this point, you know he’s still sacrificing the best playing years of his life and the ability to set himself and his family up for the rest of his life given Elite Sportsman have such short careers. I’ll never forgive the bastard re of Peter Beattie and no will I forgive the bastardry of Cameron Clyde, the RA Chairman today who himself is a Catholic, went to a supremely Elite Catholic School and is part of the privilege set remember he’s also part of the National Bank Cabal that is now at rugby Australia.. Unlike Israel who pulled himself up from the bootstraps from the hell hole of Minto. The fuktard elitists in the press keep deleting about Israel being rich the what the pump to see is a poor boy make good and the born rich just f****** cheating on him because you know he’s just some Islander Bible basher. I hope he gets a chance to play overseas while all this plays out. Personally I really do want to see RA destroyed.

  219. Leigh Lowe

    Khawaja hard done by having to come in at 1/80.
    This is his big chance getting in early on.
    Oops.
    Edges one to slip.
    Dropped.
    Yeah, he is all over this batting early thing.

  220. Ellie

    You do realise you have conned me with that kind of line twice now.

    The last time I said that I was chastised by our Doomlord for swearing, so I went to bed early pouting 😔

    Am wide awake and I promise not to swear.

  221. None

    Thanks Tinta. I really hope he has got some good advisers around him because he really is so totally without guile and too many people see this case as an opportunity to set some precedents and while Israel may be thinking along those lines at this point, you know he’s still sacrificing the best playing years of his life and the ability to set himself and his family up for the rest of his life given elite sportsman have such short careers.
    I’ll never forgive the bastardry of Peter Beattie, nor will I forgive the bastardry of Cameron Clyne, the RA Chairman today, who himself is a Catholic, went to a supremely elite Catholic School and is part of the privilege set. Remember he’s also part of the National Bank Cabal that is now at rugby Australia. Unlike Israel who pulled himself up from the bootstraps from the hell hole of Minto. The fuktard elitists in the press keep bleating about Israel being rich but what the punters see is a poor boy make good and the born rich just f****** shitting on him because you know, he’s just some Islander Bible basher. I hope he gets a chance to play overseas while all this plays out. Personally I really do want to see RA destroyed.

  222. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I mean, I know they’re Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, but I was unaware they had to go over every continent before they hit their target.

    No more bets, please, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

  223. Steve trickler

    The follow up on, Kolya.



  224. Dr Faustus

    Not everyone thought that about Turdbull, Dr Faustus.
    One amongst us thought he had Potential Greatness.

    I think you are mistaken.
    The outpouring of grief at the Cat over Potentially Great Leader’s demise was unforced and genuine.

    Now excuse me, I don’t know who you are…

  225. Leigh Lowe

    Disappointment for the Ranga!

  226. Knuckle Dragger

    Excellent. And booed off the ground to boot.

    Piss off you ranga mong cheating prick.

  227. Ellie

    This is a very inclusive Saturday night song.
    Hair not included. It’s not that inclusive.
    In the jungle

  228. Knuckle Dragger

    And more boos for Skipper McLetsMoveOnCosWeGotCaught.

  229. Leigh Lowe

    I have a vision of KD, still in umpy gear, jumping out of the Jason recliner and raising the index finger.
    Yeeeees! Piss off, yer oit!!

  230. The outpouring of grief at the Cat over Potentially Great Leader’s demise was unforced and genuine.

    Nah, the North Koreans faked the film sound track.
    That was actually footage from Gough Whitlam’s funeral.

  231. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Umm, yeah.

  232. Leigh Lowe

    I love the way Khawaja plays the pull shot after the keeper has tossed the ball to gully.

  233. Knuckle Dragger

    Kiwi fans wearing oversized masks of a crying Steve Smith with eye holes cut out.

    Priceless.

  234. None

    duncanm

    #3066471, posted on June 29, 2019 at 10:48 pm

    Yep that’s what makes America great. Privatise the wall and build a whole section which cover engineer said was impossible in 72 hours with 1/3 of the money.

  235. None

    Leigh Lowe

    #3066485, posted on June 29, 2019 at 11:11 pm

    loooool

  236. Leigh Lowe

    Ha, ha, I didn’t get the masks.
    Khawaja looks like he needs a 25 yard pitch against Boult.

  237. jupes

    Kiwi fans wearing oversized masks of a crying Steve Smith with eye holes cut out.

    Good stuff.

    That pathetic performance was worse than his piss-poor leadership. Shameful.

  238. None

    Dr Faustus

    #3066480, posted on June 29, 2019 at 11:05 pm

    I have never seen that video before and it was chilling. I had to keep reminding myself that I was actually watching human beings.

  239. Knuckle Dragger

    Cheat #2 fidgeting his way back. Brilliant catch.

    This will test the as-yet untested middle order.

  240. Leigh Lowe

    The Kiwis set a leg gully for the fend off and Guptill drags in a full on hook shot.

  241. duncanm

    Steve trickler
    #3066479, posted on June 29, 2019 at 11:04 pm

    The follow up on, Kolya.

    Bald’s great — and the people of Belarus are wonderful.

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