Open Forum: June 29, 2019

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  1. BrettW

    Protests in Hong Kong today were obvious as today a public holiday commemorating the handover back to China.

    If they get inside the Legislative Council building they are going to do their cause no good.

  2. Beertruk

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3067747, posted on July 1, 2019 at 6:20 pm
    Job done.

    It’s Cracker Night tonight, so I have to stay home and stop my dog from killing itself. Otherwise, it’d be look out.

    “Kids, don’t play with fireworks. Let the adults who have been drinking all day set them off.’

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    It’s all hands on deck at the moment, beery.

    The hospital might have a collection of digits for the biowaste guy in the morning, though.

  4. zyconoclast

    Keanu Reeves was among the 19 Hollywood actors and filmmakers who signed their names to a statement condemning an attack by fascists on the Italian cinema group Piccolo America.

    According to Italian media reports, the attack occurred in the Rome neighborhood of Trastevere during a June 16 outdoor screening of Paul Schrader’s film “First Reformed.” Four members of the group were attacked for wearing the film collective’s shirts, which the attackers were reported as believing were “anti-fascist.” Five men have been detained in connection to the assault, with at least one of them being connected to the youth wing of Italy’s neo-fascist political party CasaPound.

  5. Just watched Blade Runner 2049.
    I guess that’s 2 hours and 43 minutes I’ll never get back.

  6. zyconoclast

    Germany and the Netherlands to build the first ever joint military internet

    Government officials from Germany and the Netherlands have signed an agreement this week to build the first-ever joint military internet.

    The accord was signed on Wednesday in Brussels, Belgium, where NATO defense ministers met this week.

    BTW, is it compulsory for defence minister to be a woman?

  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I guess that’s 2 hours and 43 minutes I’ll never get back.

    Thanks for the sitrep, MV. I don’t think I’ll bother.

  8. Good evening Zulu,
    Yes. at all costs, avoid it like the plague.

    Actually I am very glad you are here, Zulu.
    It’s rumored you have had some passing experience with Scotch.
    Is that correct?
    I ask because need some info about a bottle of Scotch found today.

  9. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Kitchens! What could possibly go wrong? I have one word for you: asbestos.

    Ages ago during some much earlier renovation, someone blocked off the separate ‘tradesmans’ entrance to our kitchen, an entrance originally deemed necessary during the build in the 1940’s when such persons were not invited into other parts of one’s home. Then modernity struck, and so did fibro. The entrance was blocked up with it and now to affix new cabinets requires an urgent expensive lab testing, and if positive, a space-suited regime of removal before any modern tradie is allowed by the project manager to proceed. So, project stalled.

    Then a hot water pipe exposed by the works in a brick wall took umbrage at the assault and developed a joint fracture, hence a plumbing emergency was also declared.

    Ggrrrrrrr. Kitchens! Worse than bathrooms.

    I’m off to have my bath.
    Hairy brought back fish and chips tonight.
    Pies shop for lunch.

    Gentlemen, w2e will not discuss weighty issues like boobies tonight.
    🙂

  10. Knuckle Dragger

    2 hours and 43 minutes? Bloody hell. Good tip MV.

    I went and saw Dances with Wolves at the fillums once. Walked out with a white beard, and after I got home in my flying car there was a letter saying my super had matured.

  11. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m available, Lizzie. Changed a washer in my shower tap this afternoon.

    I’m good, but you get what you pay for.

  12. Lizzie,
    Forget about the testing, just rip the fibro out.
    No space suit required. It’s not going to do you any harm.

  13. John Constantine

    https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/6243796/merino-rams-not-afraid-of-double-dipping/?cs=4594

    Early findings from the Merino Lifetime Productivity Project have uncovered an unusual parentage scenario, with as many as 63 per cent of twins sired by two different rams.

    The Merino Lifetime Productivity Project (MLP) isn’t set to conclude until 2024 but DNA results across most of the five research sites have indicated a surprisingly common occurrence within twin lambs born from syndicate ram matings.

  14. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘twins sired by two different rams’

    Bloody sheep. No morals whatsoever. None.

  15. Beertruk

    The hospital might have a collection of digits for the biowaste guy in the morning, though.

    I can imagine, KD.

  16. Pedro the Ignorant

    I’m available, Lizzie. Changed a washer in my shower tap this afternoon.

    Don’t believe him Lizzie.

    The contents of his toolbox is a pair of scissors, a ball peen hammer, a roll of duct tape and a steak knife.

    Plus, he will spend most of his time watching the footy on your TV and charge you for labour hours.

    Very dodgy.

  17. Knuckle Dragger

    You forgot the can of WD40, Pedro.

    And surely in this day and age it’s not too much to ask for a plate of party pies at half time?

  18. Knuckle Dragger

    You can smoke in Lizzie’s house, right?

  19. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    MV I offered to rip it out with my bare hands, quoting him the epidemiological truth that I would be 97 before the health effects would be hitting me and I doubt if I would care too much by then. The tradies thought I was joking about being 77 next month.

    I am no frail little old lady. 🙂

    Actually, I find it hard to believe that very small exposure is the problem it is said to be, blue asbestos excepted for that is lethal stuff. I bet the study subjects swore blind that they had virtually no exposure, but how could they be sure of that?

  20. johanna

    The multiple sires to a litter phenomenon also occurs quite frequently in cats and dogs, when they are left to their own devices in the mating department.

    Helps to explain some of the very odd, ill assorted litters of kittens and puppies that occur in free-range beasties.

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    KD, yes you can smoke in our house if it is important to you to do so. There are ashtrays on the outdoor terrace and objectors doing passive breathing can take their chances out there with the puffers. They can all continue on indoors if it is wet.

  22. MatrixTransform

    best asbestos you could buy in 1984 and I’m sitting under it as I type.
    were my whiskey was as quality as my asbestos.

  23. johanna

    I had some fibro in a shed wall in my old house – banged it out with a hammer and chucked it in the bin. It’s pretty well inert as long as you don’t inhale the dust (of which there is very little.)

    It’s a racket getting people in moon suits in at vast expense.

  24. Actually, I find it hard to believe that very small exposure is the problem it is said to be

    And you would be 100% correct, Lizzie.
    The effects of asbestos dust and fibres are cumulative, and it takes decades of exposure to get enough fibres in your lungs to cause serious damage. And unless you are actually sawing or grinding it, there’s no danger at all.

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Actually I am very glad you are here, Zulu.
    It’s rumored you have had some passing experience with Scotch.
    Is that correct?
    I ask because need some info about a bottle of Scotch found today.

    There may have been some brief, passing experiences , with good Scotch – I am happy to place my limited skills at your disposal.

  26. Knuckle Dragger

    Bless yer cotton socks, Lizzie.

    I’ll be round on Thursday. Or the next week if I have to do that other thing for that bloke. Or August.

    From the sound it should be a six week job. POETS day on Fridays, naturally, and $500 an hour for me and my apprentice, Jamal.

    Straya!

  27. egg_

    Changed a washer in my shower tap

    Is that code for screwing in the shower or summut?

  28. Knuckle Dragger

    Got a golfing mate who runs his own asbestos removal show.

    Reckons it’s the greatest rort ever. Charges like a wounded bull, apparently.

  29. Knuckle Dragger

    Well I screwed in the thing that went into the other thing, egg. Was just instinct.

    And to think I could have spent seven years at TAFE learning to do it.

  30. Good evening Johanna,
    Slept in the marital bed for the first time since Marilyn died, on Saturday night.
    Four months and two days. I feel like such a bloody wimp.
    The cat loved it.

  31. Knuckle Dragger

    Good on you MV.

    Doesn’t really sound like the right thing to say in the circumstances, but I can’t think of anything better.

  32. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Asbestos removal is big business and we will not be allowed by this project manager to buck the system. Hairy philosophical about it. Regard it ss another tax, he advises me, more red tape, pointing out the project guy is legally bound. This is not a shonky outfit like some we hired down at the beach house who ate asbestos for breakfast.

  33. Bruce in WA

    When we were kids, Dad (RANR) used to tell us about lying in his bunk and as they hit the waves watching the lagging on the pipes giving off showers of little “dust particles”.

    When he was dying, his lung X-ray showed many mini-cancer spots through his lungs.

    The diagnosis was, of course, “smoking”, which he had given up 28 years prior.

    I will always believe it was the asbestos lagging …

  34. Thank you Zulu.
    Question – does Scotch go “off” after it’s been opened.
    Let’s say a bottle of 15 year old Scotch gets opened for Christmas in 2012.
    Two glasses drunk, lid put back on, then lost in pantry for seven years.
    Still drinkable?

  35. Bruce in WA

    Good evening Johanna,
    Slept in the marital bed for the first time since Marilyn died, on Saturday night.
    Four months and two days. I feel like such a bloody wimp.
    The cat loved it.

    “Proud of you” would sound wrong … but I’m sure she would be!

  36. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Asbestos lagging killed one NSW Govenor – naval man called Martin iirc.

  37. Bruce in WA

    Thank you Zulu.
    Question – does Scotch go “off” after it’s been opened.
    Let’s say a bottle of 15 year old Scotch gets opened for Christmas in 2012.
    Two glasses drunk, lid put back on, then lost in pantry for seven years.
    Still drinkable?

    No, it does not.

    Yes, it would be.

    If you’re worried, Sinc, you can give MV my address … I’ll dispose of it for you.

  38. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Cats love a big bed MV.

    Glad you are sleeping tight again.

  39. Bruce in WA

    Asbestos lagging killed one NSW Govenor – naval man called Martin iirc.

    Thanks, Lizzie. If it had been confined … but scattered in tiny “spots” through his lungs?? I just didn’t believe the diagnosis.

  40. I will always believe it was the asbestos lagging …

    In the circumstances you describe Bruce, a distinct possibility.
    But that’s a far cry from breaking up a bit of wall paneling at home.

  41. egg_

    NSW Govenor – naval man called Martin

    Well respected and popular, IIRC.

  42. johanna

    Good to hear you and the cat are kipping in comfort, Peter.

    Now that winter is here, a warm comfy bed is a must!

  43. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Some researchers and pathologists claim some asbestos carcinomas display only small fibre loads in situ but with mainly blue asbestos.

  44. NSW Govenor – naval man called Martin

    See Bruce’s post re asbestos on ships.

  45. Bruce in WA

    In the circumstances you describe Bruce, a distinct possibility.
    But that’s a far cry from breaking up a bit of wall paneling at home.

    Oh, yes, absolutely.

  46. It’s mostly blue Lizzie, because that’s what most people here in Oz were exposed to. In England where white asbestos was used extensively as lagging on steam boiler pipes, it was a different story.

  47. Steve trickler

    From 1919. No sound.



  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thank you Zulu.
    Question – does Scotch go “off” after it’s been opened.
    Let’s say a bottle of 15 year old Scotch gets opened for Christmas in 2012.
    Two glasses drunk, lid put back on, then lost in pantry for seven years.
    Still drinkable?

    Indeed it would be still drinkable, but only in the company of good friends, old soldiers and ancient warriors. No pretentious wankers allowed.

  49. twostix

    An Italian CPS-style kidnap factory is exposed:
    Italians are reeling from the revelation that a crime ring, which includes a mayor, doctors and social workers, had been brainwashing children to say their parents abused them, so as to easily sell them on to foster families.

    So far eighteen people, including the mayor of the town of Bibbiano, near Reggio Emilia in northern Italy, have been arrested.

    They were suspected of working together to brainwash the kids, who were taken from disadvantaged families under false pretexts, into believing they’d been abused at home. This was later used as a justification to seize the children and, basically, to sell them to foster parents at a high price

    It’s been happening in England since the 1970’s too in various guises.

    Four-five foster kids is about $2000-2500 a fortnight. Four is a lot, so permanently “adopt” a pair of clean cut sisters from a better class of family who’ve fallen into the trap and you’ve now got live in maids and au-pairs to do most of the work for the next 8-10 years. When they get to 14 adopt another one so she can be shown the ropes, at 16 start to cut the old ones loose.

    This is real, close to me.

    The things being done to the lower welfare / working classes in Britain, and what they put up with from their social superiors, not knowing any different, is terrifying. It’s another world and Australians, even welfare class Australians simply cannot comprehend the likes of it even seeing it with one’s own eyes.

    The fees we pay to our Foster Parents vary according to the type of fostering you do. You’ll receive an excellent weekly pay for each foster child. Typically a Foster Parent could earn £23,400* a year, tax free, fostering one child (that’s the equivalent of a £29,440* taxed salary).

  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Good evening Johanna,
    Slept in the marital bed for the first time since Marilyn died, on Saturday night.
    Four months and two days. I feel like such a bloody wimp.

    “Feel like such a bloody wimp.”

    Never this side of Hell – guts effort, Peter.

  51. thanks Zulu.
    Re the Scotch – it’s my granddaughter’s sixteenth this week. Big party on Saturday.
    Might put a dent in it then.

  52. twostix

    Something I’ve learned is that the colonials (canadians, aussies, americans) idea of family is definitely more in tune with each other than mothercountry poms are.

    They really seem to be able to take it or leave it with regard to their kids. Which I think is because poms on that island feel like one big dysfunctional extended family, so they’re not as allergic to having their kids shifted all about the place, going to boarding schools, etc. Whereas in the colonies, blood lines and immediate family bonds is important because we are largely strangers and to lose your immediate family means you could be in real trouble, completely alone. Or to have your kids put somewhere else means they’re with complete strangers, anyone really, who knows them.

    We’re simply not as high trust and that outs in attitudes to family law and things.

  53. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Honkers is bonkers!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhrupS2-K4A

    Protestors got through the front grille of the LC building. Government employees have evacuated it.
    Police retreated.

  54. Old School Conservative

    Which I think is because poms on that island feel like one big dysfunctional extended family

    The Australian tyranny of distance would add to the sense of loss you refer to. Poms would have much shorter travel times to cope with for reunions, long weekends, and family occasions.

    Many Australian country mums and dads spend inordinate amounts of time on the road travelling to see their boarding school kids in the cities. One way of overcoming that sense of loss.

  55. Old School Conservative

    My mind is now at ease.
    I looked up 1 Corinthians 6:9 in the Bible Gateway.
    It reassures me in a footnote that The words “men who have sex with men” translate two Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual acts.

    The things you learn.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Re the Scotch – it’s my granddaughter’s sixteenth this week. Big party on Saturday.
    Might put a dent in it then.

    You do that – it’s a privilege you have earned.

  57. None

    For once Daisy Cousens (usually a lightweight) lands a punch https://mobile.twitter.com/theboltreport/status/1145627997430415360

    I linked to the bizarre Marcia Langton tweet here the other day along with the tweet calling out Magda Szubanski for liking it.
    So this would be a question for Sinc: should Marcia Langton clesrly homophobic tweet the grounds for her sacking from her University job?

  58. So this would be a question for Sinc: should Marcia Langton clesrly homophobic tweet the grounds for her sacking from her University job?

    Warren Mundine has asked dear Marcia’s employer uni exactly that question.

    So far: Crickets.

  59. Steve trickler

    An old musical genre, reinvigorated.

    Sounds from the mid 90’s – early 2000’s. Re-booted. Trance.



  60. None

    Thanks Socrates. Good on Warren Mundine ( frankly I think Marcia is having a bit of a breakdown. Even her daughter says she just has these spazzo outbursts).

    Here is the tweet from the gay gentleman’s which Marcia Langton retweeted with her insult which Magda liked:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/TJHayter/status/1142978008162000896
    There are the usual inanities among the replies but also some really good points in replies plus
    – the usual denunciation of a gay because he is conservative and doesn’t tow the tribal line
    – some good old black on black racism

  61. Old School Conservative

    Rugby continues to slide deeper into a morass.
    From the Green and Gold Rugby web site.

    Three Shute Shield players have quit rugby over the Israel Folau situation.

    GAGR’s source said that “all of these players” have quit “directly in response to the Israel Folau situation”.

    Western Sydney Two Blues players John Folau, brother of Israel, JP Sauni, and Paul Simona are all said to have left the Shute Shield club. None of these players were present in the Two Blues’ team that lost 31-18 to Norths on the weekend.

    Furthermore, John Folau and Sauni were members of the Waratahs Extended Training Squad. 21-year-old Sauni was a highly rated member of the squad, having played for the New Zealand u20s.

    The news of these players quitting comes after the revelations in Jamie Pandaram’s four-parter about the Folau situation. Pandaram reported that some Wallabies had considered boycotting international games in support of Folau.

    We are seeing a textbook example of the expression “RA is cutting off its nose to spite its face”.

  62. None

    Brave lads they are, Old School. Thet are young with whole careers ahead of them and risking it all.

    I also missed that this lawyer thinks Qantas may be in the poop too: https://mobile.twitter.com/theboltreport/status/1145624336692211712

  63. Old School Conservative

    Not all of us Boomers are bad, but this doesn’t help.

    A 60-year-old woman was among more than 20 ageing boppers arrested for possessing ecstasy or cocaine on their way to a music festival starring Boy George at Sydney’s Ivy nightclub on the weekend.
    (The Telegraph).

    Oh. And John Jarrett.

  64. Old School Conservative

    I watched that Bolt interview None and was struck by the clarity of the argument he presented.

    Much as I disliked Bob Hawke’s self aggrandisement, I do wish for a similar personality to ride in and sort out rugby without damaging the Wallabies and grassroots finances, whilst getting Israel back on the paddock and earning his rightful salary.

  65. None

    Indewd OSC. Me, honestly I would have called everyone’s bluff. I mean the little snitch I would have said go in mind your own business and if anyone wanted to make a complaint I would have just said more or less the same as what Netball SA did. And if any sponsor threaten to walk I’m saying please tell me when and I’ll be happy to make the announcement for you. And some Cry Baby guy wanted to see my organisation that would be fine I would just shut it down anyway and then nobody can have a job. Anyway there’s been a hearing in the High Court about the extent of free speech on your personal time for public service. They are still awaiting that decision on that which can take months because judge’s move so slowly, but that will also have a bearing I’d say even so that related to political speech and in this case is it is arguing freedom of religion.

  66. DrBeauGan

    Thanks for the awful warnings about rapacious third-worlders, folks. Zippy, lefties are a gullible lot, addicted to believing anything that makes them feel good. They are natural prey for scammers. Indeed it’s good for them.

    Maria says, by txt, that she is coming to see me this afternoon. The crucial thing is, will she bring her boyfriend? I have invited her to dinner tonight if her boyfriend will let her. I have not had an answer to that proposition yet.

    I am smoking half outside the apartment, listening to julian bream on a rather good Bluetooth speaker. Just came with the apartment.

  67. DrBeauGan

    JS Bach lute suites. A taste of what heaven must be like if the place lives up to the advertising.

  68. Tom

    David Rowe (not sure who the booga-booga figure is meant to be).

  69. DrBeauGan

    I have given Osbel, my landlord, Maria’s name and phone number. Just to be on the safe side.

    She just texted:”quiet see you in the afternoon. I will be in your house. Kiss.”

    I texted back ” I’m English. We don’t do kisses.,😇”

  70. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom. Apologies for interrupting.

  71. DrBeauGan

    The thing about women, is that so many believe they can lead a bloke around by the dick. And beautiful women are certain of it.

    I’ve tried thinking with my dick and have discovered that brains work much better. I ain’t going back at this stage.

  72. will

    DrBeauGan
    #3068179, posted on July 2, 2019 at 4:31 am
    The thing about women, is that so many believe they can lead a bloke around by the dick. And beautiful women are certain of it.

    because it’s true, it takes a strong man to resist, and I am hopeless

    so did you let the f-f chic in?

  73. John Comnenus

    I think the ARU has hit the panic button and is now signalling that it believes it will lose. I argued quite some time ago that the ARUs best chance of saving itself is to blame QANTAS and seek to cover damages it will need to pay Folau from QANTAS’s Executives insurance.

    I reckon the decision making in the ARU has gone something like this:

    The ARU went into this fight thinking they would be able to bring more legal resources to the fight and use the cost of the legal fight to wear Folau down. Then Folau set up a successful Go Fund Me page. The ARU and it supporters ferociously opposed the page so it was shut down. Rugby thought it dodged a bullet. Then Folau raised $2mil in 2 days through the ACL. Folau raised so much money, so quickly, that he stopped. Now the ARU realises Folau can cover any costs if he loses. If Folau needs more money he can probably get another $2 mil by Monday. Now the ARU is in the position where Folau can bring more legal resources to the fight.

    So I guess the ARU has gotten its lawyers to brief it on how likely they think they are to win. As most legal commentators seem to indicate Folau’s case is pretty strong, not a straight forward win, but more likely to win than lose.

    So now the ARU has stopped thinking exclusively of beating Folau, and finally started thinking about saving the game. They have pushed Folau to a point where he won’t back down. That means they need to find the money to cover a loss. There are two sources of that much money – QANTAS and the Commonwealth – and the ARU is going after both. The ARU seems to have has shifted from an arrogant “we can’t lose” mindset, to a “how can Rugby survive” mindset since Folau brought $2mil to the fight.

    In poker terms the ARU has just realised they can’t cover afford the cost to legally bluff Folau out of a win. Folau has a big enough pot to call any bluff and the ARU has a weak hand.

    The ARU seems to want to prove that in sport you “go woke, you go broke”. The fallout will be delicious. Rugby will survive, but Castles and the ARU Board will have to go and, in so doing, will hopefully be send a painful salutary warning to everyone else that Australians value our freedom of speech and our freedom of religion and we ain’t giving them up for football.

  74. will

    DrBeauGan: is there any truth to my perception that all Cubans enjoy latin street music and dancing? Like a national sport? is Coconut rum like Fosters?>

  75. DrBeauGan

    because it’s true, it takes a strong man to resist, and I am hopeless

    so did you let the f-f chic in?

    I let her in and we talked, mainly via Google translate. She wanted money, initially for her bambini, and I told her I don’t want her bambini. That’s when fokky-fokky was raised. I still don’t know her name.

    It’s against all my instincts to pay for sex. I never have yet and see no reason to change a successful policy.

    I expect something similar from Maria. This is just my worldly cynicism. She is probably more sophisticated than the ff chika. That would not be hard. And she would charge more, but I ain’t buying.

    My thinking with my dick days led to some disasters; I have learnt from my errors.

    I don’t mind taking her out to dinner, at least she can speak some English.

  76. DrBeauGan

    will
    #3068182, posted on July 2, 2019 at 4:44 am
    DrBeauGan: is there any truth to my perception that all Cubans enjoy latin street music and dancing? Like a national sport? is Coconut rum like Fosters?>

    I tried coconut rum in Sri Lanka, will. Not much good. There is street music in Havana, coming out of the odd boombox. And some solitary dancing, mainly black men.

  77. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3068183, posted on July 2, 2019 at 4:50 am

    My thinking with my dick days led to some disasters; I have learnt from my errors.

    I don’t mind taking her out to dinner, at least she can speak some English.

    Far be it for me to tell you what to do, but if she has a boyfriend, a big one at that, and you have no intentions to pay for her favs. whatever they may be, then what’s the point?

    You are playing a potentially dangerous game in my opinion.
    Many years of experience living in foreign lands I have.

    Are so lonely there?

  78. DrBeauGan

    The restaurants all have music. Mostly awful rubbish. A pianist and oboeist last time. They played As Time goes by, to wild applause.

  79. DrBeauGan

    Far be it for me to tell you what to do, but if she has a boyfriend, a big one at that, and you have no intentions to pay for her favs. whatever they may be, then what’s the point?

    You are playing a potentially dangerous game in my opinion.
    Many years of experience living in foreign lands I have.

    Are so lonely there?

    I like solitude, so it isn’t a matter of loneliness. Put me down as avid for new experiences. I like talking to people who are different from the usual. I’m rather cautious and not a bit trusting, so I’m not going to her place, it probably has the boyfriend there.

    My knee is giving me trouble, so I shall avoid a fight. I’m not above smacking her bottom if she misbehaves.

    God protects the innocent, and I have lots of innocence.

  80. bespoke

    Found a house yet Mark?

  81. DrBeauGan

    God protects the innocent, and I have lots of innocence.

    It’s my superpower.

  82. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3068188, posted on July 2, 2019 at 5:23 am

    It’s OK Dr BG, I’m just making some observations/small-talk.

    What I find is that there is a wide difference between people being friendly and helpful in offering assistance, in finding your way or directing you to a good restaurant, and voluntarily offering to visit you and keep you company.

    Even the most altruistic person gets his reward by being, well altruistic.

    Alas they are so few in numbers that they don’t matter, the great majority always has some other, more mundane reward in sight.
    Some are actually honest and want to do some favour they perceive you need and expect to be paid for it.
    Those are the good ones.

    Beware of the rest, they only want a reward without any favs. offered.

  83. Mark A

    bespoke
    #3068189, posted on July 2, 2019 at 5:34 am

    Found a house yet Mark?

    Not yet but have to pull my finger out.
    I have more work in Poland but can’t hack the language and I don’t want to live an isolated life, so it has to be either in Austria or Hungary.

    Price wise there is a huge difference, so it probably will be Hungary but whether in the capital or further out is and other question. 200K buys you a real good apartment in the city but 50K for a nice house on big block only 20 Km out.

    Decisions, decisions.

  84. bespoke

    Id go for the big block but that’s just me, Mark. Hate crowds and rather keep my distance.

    Big step though, no regrets?

  85. DrBeauGan

    Even the most altruistic person gets his reward by being, well altruistic.

    Alas they are so few in numbers that they don’t matter, the great majority always has some other, more mundane reward in sight.
    Some are actually honest and want to do some favour they perceive you need and expect to be paid for it.
    Those are the good ones.

    Beware of the rest, they only want a reward without any favs. offered.

    I estimate the chance of her being a kindly altruist as less than one in ten. But I’m happy to be proved a cynical bastard.

    The thing is, playing against the odds sometimes gives you a pleasant surprise. It’s a matter of what can go wrong, and I’m bigger than her.

    I’ve met some relatively honest panhandlers here. One guy took me to a place I could have breakfast. I bought him breakfast too. Then he begged for payment. Fair enough. I gave him ten cuc, which he explained was a fortune to him. He was pretty honest in his way, and I don’t mind paying a bit for the assistance.

  86. Mark A

    bespoke
    #3068195, posted on July 2, 2019 at 5:57 am

    Id go for the big block but that’s just me, Mark. Hate crowds and rather keep my distance.

    Big step though, no regrets?

    I’d prefer the house myself, the public transport is really really good here, what public transport supposed to be. If you are over 65 it’s completely free even for EU citizens.

    No regrets at all, I lived overseas for a long time now but this time it is with my wife and I have to take her needs into account.

    Besides I still have my passport, a house in my name in Melbourne and a share in the family farms.

  87. bespoke

    hallucinating frightbat.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    @AOC
    Just left the 1st CBP facility.

    I see why CBP officers were being so physically &sexually threatening towards me.

    Officers were keeping women in cells w/ no water & had told them to drink out of the toilets.

    This was them on their GOOD behavior in front of members of Congress.

  88. Up The Workers!

    I know a bloke who used to think with his dick.

    He followed it all the way to Federal Leadership of the Australian Liars Party and the “Unloseable Erection”.

    He “Juicy Fruited” that, too!

  89. bespoke

    Good to have fallback, Mark. Good luck mate.

  90. DrBeauGan

    Just got a phone call from Maria. She’s on her way in a taxi. I shall pay for the taxi when she arrives.

  91. bespoke

    God protects the innocent, and I have lots of innocence.

    God can’t protect you from this.

  92. DrBeauGan

    It’s 16:20 local time.

  93. bespoke

    Bye Bye DrBeauGan nice knowing ya!

  94. DrBeauGan

    It’s 16:20 local time. That gives two hours before we leave for dinner, if we do.

    Now I’m playing Sibelius third. I suspect the sounds of the great Northern forests won’t cut it in Cuba. Maybe Heitor Villa-Lobos.

  95. DrBeauGan

    bespoke
    #3068205, posted on July 2, 2019 at 6:31 am
    Bye Bye DrBeauGan nice knowing ya!

    Ya gotta live dangerously once in a while, bespoke.

  96. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3068204, posted on July 2, 2019 at 6:28 am

    It’s 16:20 local time.

    Getting the jitters Doc? LOL

  97. Bruce of Newcastle

    Johannes Leak does national treasure Geoffrey Blainey in an commentary piece by Troy Bramston.
    Top stuff. Sadly as a rightie he has zero chance of winning the Archibald.

  98. bespoke

    If she’s carrying plastic garbage bags, run!!

  99. DrBeauGan

    Getting the jitters Doc? LOL

    She’s the one who should be nervous.

  100. JC

    Knock it off, Bespoke. That’s not on.

  101. JC

    I was reading something the other day and the fat chick’s name (on the right of the vid) came up. She’s in charge of the international labor organization and was telling off someone about worker rights. Sharon Burrows!

  102. will

    DrBeauGan
    #3068183, posted on July 2, 2019 at 4:50 am
    I told her I don’t want her bambini. That’s when fokky-fokky was raised. I still don’t know her name.

    It’s against all my instincts to pay for sex.

    and

    DrBeauGan
    #3068183, posted on July 2, 2019 at 4:50 am

    My thinking with my dick days led to some disasters; I have learnt from my errors.

    It sounds like you already have paid for sex. Big time. Not by fooky-fooky session, but by the long term plan, which is always more expensive.

    You realise that you don’t pay prostitutes for sex, you pay them to go away afterwards, yes?

  103. John Constantine

    https://www.theland.com.au/story/6246265/forbes-dubbo-council-force-saleyards-weighbridge-issue/

    Under chain of responsibility, nsw roads orcs tried declaring councils to be load managers and liable for sheep overloading weights unless $2,000,000 weighbridges were built at saleyards and staff employed to monitor saleday trucks. To be funded by taxing producers.

    Vicco has volumetric loading for stock trucks, but only if the truck is accredited.

    Being liable under chain of responsibility as load manager means if you sell direct to a meatworks and they send the lowest tender subcontractor out for the pickup, and he is angry, aggressive, drug affected, armed with a stabbing screwdriver/clubbing wrench and at your home- you must provoke him by ordering him to go sleep it off in his truck at your gate and not load until sober.

    Easier to just cart the stock yourself, but one more job.

  104. Knuckle Dragger

    John Commenus, cold light of dawn;

    Very well said. Excellent poker analogy.

  105. DrBeauGan

    It sounds like you already have paid for sex. Big time. Not by fooky-fooky session, but by the long term plan, which is always more expensive.

    Sure, you pay for whatever you get in this world, but cash on the nail is sordid. I’m a romantic.

  106. DrBeauGan

    It’s now nearly an hour since she said she was coming. Maybe she got cold feet.

  107. Knuckle Dragger

    Well, the HK protestors have just delivered a giant FU to the government. Stampeding through their empty Parliament and so on.

    They’re clearly well-read, too. Smashing their way into the building, they used what looked like a large laundry cart filled with crap to give it weight, and they ran back and forth with it, battering-ram style.

    Even better, the crowd and the batterers used umbrellas as top cover – protecting themselves from any modern equivalent of boiling pitch or oil.

  108. Knuckle Dragger

    Don’t text her Beaugy. Rookie mistake….

  109. Nob

    Even better, the crowd and the batterers used umbrellas as top cover – protecting themselves from any modern equivalent of boiling pitch or oil.

    CCTV?

  110. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3068221, posted on July 2, 2019 at 7:17 am

    It’s now nearly an hour since she said she was coming. Maybe she got cold feet.

    Any chance she reads the CAT?

  111. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It’s against all my instincts to pay for sex.

    we all pay for it one way or another.

  112. Mater

    Even better, the crowd and the batterers used umbrellas as top cover – protecting themselves from any modern equivalent of boiling pitch or oil.

    They’ve been watching Atomic Blonde.

  113. Mark A

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3068226, posted on July 2, 2019 at 7:25 am

    It’s against all my instincts to pay for sex.

    we all pay for it one way or another.

    You know there is a huge difference I take it.
    But in the long or even in the short run if sex is all you need then forget about romance family etc.

    Paying up front is way cheaper.
    A bit mercenary but.

  114. DrBeauGan

    I texted her and got no response, phoned her and no pickup, then I got a phone call saying she would be here in thirty minutes. I am having doubts about this. But I am an optimist.

  115. Knuckle Dragger

    They’d want to watch their step, these HK types.

    The natural fallback is for Chinese troops to come over and sort it if the local riot police can’t.

    The Chinese don’t do riots.

  116. Knuckle Dragger

    What did I just say Beaugy?

    You’re on the hook now son….

  117. Mater

    They’d want to watch their step, these HK types.
    The Chinese don’t do riots.

    Agreed.
    The umbrellas were used in Atomic Blonde to prevent the Russians doing a precision hit.
    The Chinese don’t do precision.
    My faith in the trusty umbrella would only go so far.

  118. DrBeauGan

    Any chance she reads the CAT?

    Rather unlikely, I would think.

    But short of information about her and her circumstances, and disinclined to speculate in advance of the data, I just wait until six thirty in a spirit of happy optimism.

    Then I go to dinner on my own.

  119. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘speculate in advance of the data’

    Does the data indicate a conclusion of a dislocated elbow and paying for bambino’s entire upbringing in exchange for leaving the country with all ten fingers?

  120. Bruce of Newcastle

    Isn’t it amazing that I was only able to stumble across the following story on a UK blog?

    Coral Reefs Defy Climate Alarmists

    Australian researchers conducted a four-year study off One Tree Island, which is one of the southernmost locations of the Great Barrier Reef. Scientists considered this portion of the reef in decline since the 1970s. According to the Brisbane Times, scientists expected a 2009 cyclone that hit the area would be the final knockout blow for the reef. Instead, scientists conducting a four-year study of the reef from 2014 through 2017 found remarkable growth and recovery.

    Kay Davis, one of the study’s researchers, told the Brisbane Times that she expected warming temperatures and ocean acidification, caused by global warming, to be the final death blow for the reef.

    “The ocean is warming and acidifying so we wouldn’t think the coral would be able to fight that,” said Davis.

    To her surprise, her research showed the reef’s calcification, a measure of coral growth, increased 400 percent during the four years of her study.

    Surely the ABC should have this story lead their bulletins. And Nine, Ten and Seven. After all if it’d found the Reef was a blackened wasteland inhabited only by sea slugs it most certainly would.

  121. Gab

    I am having doubts about this.

    I did warn you yesterday but you just wouldn’t listen.

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    Frigging smart people. Every time.

    They can tell you all about the behaviour of straight lines in space and the existence of God, but you can’t let them cross the road on their own.

  123. `

    Good get BoN
    Isn’t it amazing that I was only able to stumble across the following story on a UK blog?

  124. DrBeauGan

    ‘speculate in advance of the data’

    Does the data indicate a conclusion of a dislocated elbow and paying for bambino’s entire upbringing in exchange for leaving the country with all ten fingers?

    I like your sunny optimism, KD. Any developments along those lines would take a little time, I figure. I should take evasive action.

  125. None

    Leaving aside that the Latin time us not Western time, you are pretty game asking a woman out to dinner if that woman has a boyfriend or probably in this case a pimp. But the cat must be the only place on the internet where you can come for the economics, check the wind metre, redo your kitchen, fix the shower tap, stay for the interruption Lotto, go on an Alaskan cruise and smoke a cigar in Havana waiting for Maria.

  126. vr

    About that “fearless girl” statue.

    Finance Bros Battle Sculptor for Control of Iconic ‘Fearless Girl’ Statue

    Here is the best part:

    Even the company’s SHE Fund, which it created to invest in gender-diverse companies, voted against gender-equality initiatives more often than it supported them, according to investment research firm Morningstar. Of 10 gender-diversity resolutions facing its portfolio companies between 2015 and 2018, SHE voted in favor only twice. Two other, similar gender-focused funds voted for such proposals every time.

    The SJWs got taken in..

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    No it won’t take a little time BG.

    You’re on enemy turf. You don’t know how many spies she’ll have watching whatever you two do. But there will be spies.

  128. DrBeauGan

    Gab
    #3068239, posted on July 2, 2019 at 7:50 am
    I am having doubts about this.

    I did warn you yesterday but you just wouldn’t listen.

    I’m good at listening, Gab, but not very obedient.

    Living life in fear of a generalised sort, without any specific threats is a guarantee of a dreary life.

  129. Gab

    It’s not about “living life in fear” it’s about using common sense and good judgement.

  130. feelthebern

    I wonder what happened that made the Clinton Foundation not receive any more donations?

    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/12/clinton-foundation-revenue-low/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twitt=clinton-foundation-revenue-low-121318

    It looks like Australia’s Gillard contribution was one of the largest Hillary ever received.

  131. Notafan

    What about sensible behaviour in a third world communist country that does not follow our rules of law?

  132. None

    If anything I fear for Maria. She’s probably being beaten up but her pimp…er boyfriend.

  133. Entropy

    the cat must be the only place on the internet where you can come for the economics, check the wind metre, redo your kitchen, fix the shower tap, stay for the interruption Lotto, go on an Alaskan cruise and smoke a cigar in Havana waiting for Maria.

    Quite so.

  134. Notafan

    Foreigners have faced similar problems in Russia iirc

  135. DrBeauGan

    No it won’t take a little time BG.

    You’re on enemy turf. You don’t know how many spies she’ll have watching whatever you two do. But there will be spies.

    Her spies will have to deal with my spies and trained assassins, kd.

    I would hate your paranoid fantasies to be limited by reality. So I am contributing some new ones for you.

  136. Notafan

    KD is right.

    It’s a thing, gringo.

  137. P

    Surely the ABC should have this story lead their bulletins. And Nine, Ten and Seven. After all if it’d found the Reef was a blackened wasteland inhabited only by sea slugs it most certainly would.

    ABC:
    ‘Teeming with life’: New hope for the Great Barrier Reef as island shows remarkable coral growth

  138. None

    snitching: someone an itched on Folau to Raelene; Raelene snatched Qantas….

    Actually the other high court case on free speech all that public servant all started with some person snotching to the boss about a colleague tweeting ( on their own time and under an anonymous handle which could not be traced back to her employer). I was reading a law review article on it the other day and it seems that little snitch cost her job, her house, her health… years in court and appeals tribunals ( the federal court took 9 months to reach a decision and the high court hearing was in April so you’re probably not going to hear from them until like next millennium). I suspect that if Folau goes all the way his camp will want to wait for that decision…

  139. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thanks P!
    I don’t go to the ABC website these days.
    We’ll see what the networks do in the news.

  140. Notafan

    The government in Cuba limits internet and email access.

    Westpac is banned because of US links.

    I can now see why you would get a driver rather than risk driving yourself.

  141. Dr Faustus

    Surely the ABC should have this story lead their bulletins.

    To be fair, the ABC does run a piece on this.
    If only to bring appropriate balance to the depressingly upbeat finding:

    “Reefs have been recovering from stress events for many years, but as the impact of climate change on coral reefs worsen, we’re seeing that recovery is more difficult,” Ms Davis said.

    However happy she may be about One Tree Island defying the Great Coral Destruction, Ms Davis still has to finish her PhD and find a job. And this requires genuflection.

  142. John Constantine

    Personalized 3D printed food in your choice of color sounds great, but it’s likely to remain a luxury affordable only to small segments of the world’s population. In the third world, food will be bland, monotonous, and increasingly a mere necessity of survival. The experts think developing countries will come to rely on some type of compact food rations similar to NASA’s famous astronaut packets – nutritionally fortified energy bars, biscuits or dehydrated snacks – to help feed growing numbers of hungry people. These items may not be very appetizing, but they will be functional, formulated to provide maximum nutrition and a feeling of satiety.

    Kapulnik predicts that developed countries, too, may come to rely on food concentrates to meet some of their needs. When the time comes, if people are still eating traditional sit-down meals, 3D printers will help meet the demand for culinary variety and novelty. Otherwise, good old energy bars will do the job.

    Weekly times online has a gloat from a horticulture group that meat is now making wymynsys anxious, broadacre crops are anxiety in the bag and fruit and vegetables can make diet stress go away.

    Unfortunately for horticulture, the State wants total control of food rations, so that only State medicated sludge rations can numb the State incited food and diet anxiety of the wymynsys, and satiate their unfulfilled appetites for surety

    Go alcohol free, but addict yourself to prescription medications instead is the dry july meme many chicks are social media calling this month.

    Comrades.

  143. min

    BG for godness sake don’t take up the offer of follow me this is a shortcut to the restaurant. These girls have to live off their wits and they need money.

  144. John Constantine

    When Hong Kong is fed completely on rations of processed sludge formed into nutrient energy bars, all the State will have to do to quell riots is to lift the level of Soma in the city rations for a few weeks.

    Comrades.

  145. Notafan

    To be honest none I have little sympathy for the public service Tweeter. It is absolutely drilled into aps employees that they have a requirement to be apolitical as part of their employment conditions, for very good reasons including making inpartial judgements when administering government policy.
    I know lots of people break those rules and you can’t always do something about it but don’t be stupid.

    Freedom of speech is a right but not APS employment.
    the public servant Twitter

  146. Twostix

    Frigging smart people. Every time.

    They can tell you all about the behaviour of straight lines in space and the existence of God, but you can’t let them cross the road on their own.

    Lol it’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

    It’s literally the opening scenes of one of those pommy “Banged Up Abroad” shows, where pommy upper middle class tourists explain how naive they were back when it all started.

    Camera zooms out, ten years later they’re still there, in prison.

  147. None

    Not a fan there was absolutely no evidence whatsoever that this public servant did not fulfill her duties in partially and it was not an issue for the case. It’s entered Julie around the fact that she was critical of government policy on Twitter even though she tweeted on her own time in an anonymous capacity such that it would be impossible for anyone to identify her as a public servant. So the reason why this case is also of interest in the flower case is that it will ask whether there was over reach into a persons private life but also asked whether her right to political speech why was over written. I think and appeals tribunal somewhere along the line decided her dismissal was unlawful and that she was entitled to worker’s compensation for psychological suffering but the Commonwealth appealed and that’s how it ended up in the High Court.

    iirc somewhere in the early days of being on Twitter some idiot on an official government twitter account tweeted something like Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead in relation to some conservative woman – I’m trying to think back, memory sketchy – but anyway all this person had to do was say I’m sorry and that was it.

    While I loathe and detest the public sector , the fact is public Servants are citizens as well and have a right to free speech and free political expression although again not on public service time and certainly I would frown on activist public servants who fail to discharge veggies is in partially. But I suspect what’s happened is that they’ve been so many cases like this and they have been so inconsistent that sooner or later one had to go all the way in order to get some boundaries clarified. As it turns out this public servant is also a trained lawyer and wasn’t going to let go easily.

  148. Mother Lode

    Isn’t it amazing that I was only able to stumble across the following story on a UK blog?

    There are fewer people with vested interests in fanning the panic about the GBR in the UK.

  149. cohenite

    Did the doc get lucky?

  150. John Constantine

    Zelda Granted Approval for Opioid Reduction Trial
    • Trial at St Vincent’s Hospital Melbourne to begin immediately with final results by Q4 2019
    • First clinical trial designed with a primary end-point assessing the efficacy of cannabis in reducing opioid dependence
    • Outcomes will feed in to larger Phase II trial

    Medical marijuana as a replacement for the opioid epidemic.

    Everything you learned about cannabis at university may be wrong.

  151. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Sarin nerve agent detected at Facebook’s mailroom in California
    Facebook employees may have been the target of a sarin attack after the nerve agent was reportedly detected at the company’s mailroom.

  152. John Constantine

    Zelda Therapeutics Ltd (ASX: ZLD, OTCQB: ZLDAF) Phase I Opioid Reduction Trial has been formally approved by the St Vincent’s Hospital Ethics and Governance Committees.
    The primary end-point is to assess the effectiveness of medicinal cannabis in reducing opioid dependence in patients with chronic non-cancer pain.
    The Phase I trial will evaluate the safety and tolerability of whole plant extract following single and repeated doses in nine patients with chronic non-cancer pain on long-term opioid analgesia. Secondary outcomes include pharmacokinetics and the effects on pain, mood, sleep and opioid use over the duration of the trail.
    The Phase I trial will commence immediately with preliminary results expected by late Q3 2019 and final results in Q4 2019.
    The outcomes from the Phase I trial will inform a subsequent larger scale Phase II study that will assess the impact of oral whole plant extract on patient ability to tolerate a stepped opioid tapering protocol.
    Prescription opioids treating chronic pain are linked to serious side effects including physical dependence, which is an acknowledged growing global crisis. In the United States an estimated 49,000 people died from opioid overdose in 2017.
    Zelda’s Managing Director, Dr Richard

    Not holding much zld.

  153. Twostix

    Every other one of those shoes has some dumbo white collar professional who got sucked in by the local tarts.

    Who of course are under the complete control of brother/uncle/local dealer and run a well worn grift which plays on stupid western men’s saviour complex and assumption that because she’s lower class it’s going to be an easy root.

  154. None

    Did the doc get lucky?

    apparently we are all waiting to find out. Who said that everybody should keep their noses out of other people’s bedrooms…

  155. Tom

    Lol it’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

    … with an army of the Cat’s frightbats barracking for the train wreck.

  156. Geriatric Mayfly

    Dr. Beau. So far you seem rooted(sorry) to a fairly restricted locale in Cuba. When are we going to get journals from the back of the bus, as you thread your way through the legion of happy peasants tilling the land? Then up into the mountains to pay tribute at the site where Fidel and his band of merry men hatched a dream come true. A detour to the Bay of Pigs should sate our thirst for historical insights into the glorious revolución.

  157. Bruce of Newcastle

    Glastonbury features Garbage and Flock of Seagulls.

    The Somerset festival is notorious for attracting crowds of a more liberal persuasion, and on Thursday thousands marched in an Extinction Rebellion protest on the site in a climate rally.

    But the masses have been branded hypocrites in light of pictures revealing the pigsty site, with Ronnie Charles writing on Facebook: ‘I thought Glastonbury revellers were the green environmental friendly type… We used to be.’

    Signing the Green Pledge was mandatory in order to register for festival tickets this year and forced people to commit to do their ‘duty’ to make sure the farmland is looked after.

    In his speech to thousands of fans from the Pyramid Stage, Sir David [Attenborough] said: ‘There was one sequence in Blue Planet II which everyone seems to remember.

    ‘It is one in which we showed what plastic has done to the creatures that live in the ocean. It had an extraordinary effect and now this great festival has gone plastic-free.’

    The photos are hilarious…

    At least they picked their tents up! Campers leave pockmarked field after Glastonbury ends as droves begin clean-up of sea of bottles and food waste despite festival going ‘plastic-free’ (1 July)

    Warning to DrB and Cats with slow internet, make do with the photos I liked at the top, as the dozens of photos in the Daily Mail story will tie up your device for ages.

  158. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Northern Cyprus explosion: Blast from ‘Russian-made missile used to fend off Israeli air attack on Syria’
    Debris from an object that landed north of Nicosia is said to be from an S-200 anti aircraft missile that targeted Israeli jets.

  159. None

    Haha, I hope Serena Williams never beats Margaret Court’s record.

  160. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Did the doc get lucky?

    I don;t think its doc who is trying to get lucky…

  161. Dr Faustus

    John Comnenus
    #3068181, posted on July 2, 2019 at 4:42 am

    On the money.

    It appears RA’s lawyers pointed out the legal weakness in Folau’s employment contract and code of conduct months ago (weakness in terms of delivering RA’s desired outcome).

    It seems that RA signed Folau up in October 2018 using a standard contract, and subsequently came back with a codicil designed to restrict his use of social media – which he refused to sign. If this is true, RA will be pushing shit uphill arguing that Folau signed up with full awareness of the implied terms of his employment because fireside chats with Raelene Castle.

    Add to this the ‘natural justice’ issues of allowing Cheika and senior players to make prejudicial public statements before the RA disciplinary hearing and Cameron Cline’s apparent admission that sponsors were busy reaching down into the RA/Folau employment relationship – and you can see why RA bums might now be a-puckering.

    Hard to see Qantas, ‘government’, or RA being keen to box on if Folau’s legal team get this into the Federal Court and widespread discovery looms.

  162. duncanm

    According to the Brisbane Times, scientists expected a 2009 cyclone that hit the area would be the final knockout blow for the reef.

    Kay Davis, one of the study’s researchers, told the Brisbane Times that she expected warming temperatures and ocean acidification, caused by global warming, to be the final death blow for the reef.

    They keep saying these that cyclones and warming temperatures will kill reefs, but neither passes the bullshit test.
    – there have always been cyclones
    – reefs are tropical warm-water creatures.
    – the great barrier reef is believed to be about 6 – 8k years old.

    Sure – it seems each type of coral / ecosystem likes its particular temperature range, salinity, etc, and changes to any of those disrupts things (bleaching – the polyps expel the algae they use for food), but corals migrate, so they can readily recolonise areas that move into their particular sweet spot.

  163. None

    Victorians really are like frogs in boiling water:

    Phone data plan to track our journeys

    Mobile data could be harvested in Victoria to monitor people’s movements.

  164. duncanm

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3068280, posted on July 2, 2019 at 9:01 am

    Glastonbury features Garbage and Flock of Seagulls.

    I see what you did there 😉

  165. None

    Companies that sponsor the ARU may have to pay unlimited compensation to Israel Folau.

    Please please please God make it so. Only because this will make me laugh so much.

  166. Mark A

    Glastonbury
    as temperatures soared to 82F.

  167. Mother Lode

    The Somerset festival is notorious for attracting crowds of a more liberal persuasion,

    Goes without saying then that there was a liberal layering of garbage on the ground.

    The author who poses this as strangely unexpected misunderstands the green youth.

    Their main focus is to force other people to be green, to have it enforced by law and to be financially underwritten by people they don’t like.

    They themselves will have picked up a couple of little tricks and techniques which happen to suit them which allow them to enlarge on their enviro creds – earnestly sharing their insights with each other and relishing each others acclaim. Pointless things like always buying lentils on Thursdays, or some little shop where 50% of their ‘profit’ is sent to organic farmers in Bougainville.

    Oh, and then get to use themselves to make the conspicuous and rhetorical claim underscoring their half-wit environmental activism – such as “We always walk or pedal to the welfare office – people don’t need cars!”

    So convinced of their virtue they would see the rubbish strewn all over the ground and simply not register it. They are good people. Besides, what about businesses that use air-conditioning. Or restaurants that use detergents instead of getting dogs to lick the plates clean!

  168. None

    Not even safe in your own backyard

  169. teamv

    Duncan @ 9:22am.

    The reef has been bleaching since we first observed it in 1928. Even GBRMPA note it on their website.
    http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/about-us/resources-and-publications/spatial-data-information-services/reefinfo/low-isles-reef

    Bleaching does not mean death.

  170. stackja

    How Rugby once was played:

    Shute Shield – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shute_Shield
    The Shute Shield is a rugby union competition in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. It is the premier grade club tournament in NSW rugby.

    Australia national rugby union team – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_national_rugby_union_team
    The Australia national rugby union team, nicknamed the Wallabies, is controlled by Rugby Australia.

    Then came Super Rugby. And Raelene!

  171. lotocoti

    Is there an exfil plan if our man in Havana is blown?

  172. Mater

    They keep saying these that cyclones and warming temperatures will kill reefs, but neither passes the bullshit test.

    It’s weird, isn’t it.
    I’ve heard exactly the opposite from people; that cyclones are the life blood of the reef in that they bring up cool water and nutrients from the depths. They were bemoaning the recent lack of cyclones and the negative impact the ‘stagnant’ water was having on the reef and it’s inhabitants.
    This was from tourist operators in the area.

  173. Mother Lode

    At least they picked their tents up! Campers leave pockmarked field after Glastonbury ends as droves begin clean-up of sea of bottles and food waste despite festival going ‘plastic-free’ (1 July)

    I’m sorry, but anyone who is nice to a hippy deserves what they get.

    Including hepatitis and squatters.

  174. Leigh Lowe

    lotocoti

    #3068296, posted on July 2, 2019 at 9:35 am

    Is there an exfil plan if our man in Havana is blown?

    Our man in Havana has taken his vivid imagination on a P&O cruise to Noumea.

  175. Geriatric Mayfly

    Not even safe in your own backyard…

    Not the first time. How come these wheel bays are so accessible? I am sure M o h amm ed would be more than interested at the prospect of climbing into one.

  176. Mother Lode

    Has the owner of the property been charged yet with not providing a safe plummeting environment?

  177. Infidel Tiger

    James O’Connor is expected to receive a late birthday present on Sunday, with the talented back set to board a flight with his Wallabies teammates to South Africa just two days after turning 29.

    After weeks of talks with Rugby Australia officials about a return home, foxsports.com.au can confirm the second youngest Wallaby of all time will once again be eligible to play for the national side six years after he last took the field.

    It’s understood that the 44-Test back, who made his debut for the Wallabies off the bench against Italy in 2008, confirmed a long-term deal to return to the Queensland Reds in 2020 on Monday night which could see him remain in Australia for at least three years.

    Deranged coke addict offered long term contract.

    Abstemious Christian given life ban.

  178. johanna

    Oyez! Oyez! I bring tidings of great joy to fans of hard core crime shows like The Sopranos.

    I have discovered on youtube a gem called Smith.

    Nope, me neither. It was made in 2006, only seven episodes made and only four ever broadcast, for reasons that remain mysterious. But they are all at this link.

    Starring the brilliant Ray Liotta and, amazingly, our own Simon Baker as a very convincing pyschopath, it follows the exploits of a gang of not very nice crims who specialise in complicated and lucrative heists.

    Plenty of action, brilliant script and acting, the best thing of its genre I’ve seen since the late lamented Tony S. and pals.

    Enjoy!

  179. None

    Soon, soon Mother Lode.

  180. Woolfe

    Just been on ebay, apparently there is a fresh kidney for sale in Havana.

  181. JC

    I just don’t get the sheer number of ads on American TV for prescription medications. I don’t get the economics of these ads nor the reasoning behind them. They usually start with telegenic older couple walking along the shoreline bare footed, pants slightly rolled up with a voice over explaining the old gal or dude is smiling and happy because of x med some cancer type. The latter part of the ad is about its side effects……. like potential for massive stroke, severe tremors, seizure, couple of limbs suddenly falling off, eyeball suddenly falling out of the socket. Also, if you experience massive internal bleeding or an artery blocks up as a result of the med, it may be a good idea to call the doc.

  182. Tom

    Coming up, a rare chance to see Trump interviewed by someone who isn’t an MSM gotcha merchant (ABC’s George Stephanopoulos) or a cheerleader (Sean Hannity): Trump speaks to Tucker Carlson in a pre-recorded interview at Fox News (Foxtel ch 606). Tucker is still in South Korea and is a major critic of the neocons who have Trump’s ear.

  183. JC

    mh
    #3068310, posted on July 2, 2019 at 10:02 am

    ‘Beto’ O’Rourke Campaigns in Mexico

    That’s not as silly as it sounds, mh. Half that fucking country illegally votes in US elections

  184. mh

    Alan Joyce wants Qantas to be associated with a coke addict? Why?

    That makes me wonder about the quality of Qantas pilots.

  185. JC

    whoops

    ..successfully treated…

  186. Old School Conservative

    Well done Ellie on your drunk interruption counting last night on the Q&A thread.
    Like many, I read it on Tuesday morning to avoid nightmares on Monday night.
    I particularly liked your nod to multiple genders and transitioning-as-normal with the comment about “female chaps”.

    Good to see Carpe has a well organised succession plan for his Interruption Lotto empire.

  187. mh

    That’s not as silly as it sounds, mh. Half that fucking country illegally votes in US elections

    It’s certainly a point of difference with Trump.

    Democrats running on Mexico First, Trump on America First.

  188. JC

    Chuck Schumer is a mendacious, dishonest sack of shit. For some reason the TV is on CNN and he’s spent the entire interview lying with every answer.

  189. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bob Brown seeks $500,000 to train anti-Adani activists

    Elias Visontay
    Reporter
    @EliasVisontay
    26 minutes ago July 2, 2019
    29 Comments

    Former Greens leader Bob Brown has launched a last-ditch effort to halt the planned Adani coal mine, rallying supporters to raise half a million dollars to purchase land to establish a base to train activists and plan protests against the mine.

    Dr Brown, whose ‘Stop Adani’ anti-coal convoy through central Queensland during the election campaign has been credited with increasing a swing towards the Coalition, yesterday launched a crowdfunding page with a group, Friends of the Galilee Basin, to establish a “last line of defence” anti-Adani campaign headquarters in regional Queensland.

    The target is to raise $500,000 to set up “a base for the campaign” at Binbee to “ensure that people can keep protecting country and put their bodies on the frontline”.

    “Having a safe camp to train activists and plan protests is critical to getting thousands to the frontline.” the crowdfunding page states.

    “Despite outcry from the scientific community, the Australian government has given the Adani Coal mine the final tick of approval.

    “The good news is there are people on the frontline who are prepared to protect water, community and living systems to leave a safe planet for future generations.

    “So far activists have helped to delay, disrupt and reduce the size of the Adani mega mine for over 5 years. Now is the time to come together and stop it for good.

    “Mass civil disobedience is our last position to stop Adani in one of the biggest environmental battles in Australian history.” it said.

    The campaign had raised $2,490 as of 8am this morning.

    From the Oz. Silly old bugger.

  190. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We acknowledge that we live, meet and work on Aboriginal land
    and that sovereignty has never been ceded.
    We pay respect to their Elders, past, present and emerging,and acknowledge that climate justice and First Nations justice go hand in hand.
    The Galilee Basin area was, is and always will be Aboriginal land.

    From Bob Brown’s GoFundMe page. Precisely what planet is he on?

  191. JC

    Biden’s fucked. CNN is really ragging on him.

  192. C.L.

    ABC Online doxes Folau donors:

    Janelle Jackson, a 55-year-old retiree, wrote in a Facebook comment that her heart broke when the GoFundMe page was shut down…

    David Stennett, 41, a media and sales manager, doubled his donation to the ACL’s fund, and started following the organisation on Facebook … In a video he posted on YouTube, he says …

    Gold Coast electrician Paul Richmond, 47, is another donor …

    Gabrielle Moore, a 28-year-old dairy farmer, said in a Facebook post …

    Given that a gay “marriage” terrorist tried to slaughter everyone at the ACL headquarters in Canberra a few years ago with the largest vehicular bomb ever seen in Australia … well, I hope these people lock their doors and/or have an intimidating dog.

  193. Roger

    David Rowe (not sure who the booga-booga figure is meant to be).

    Dutton?

  194. is and always will be Aboriginal land.

    Do we have to invade and annex the place to get possession in the name of the Commonwealth?

  195. C.L.

    Biden is in the way of the new Year Zero Khmer Rouge Democrats.
    They want him out of the way.

  196. Roger

    We acknowledge that we live, meet and work on Aboriginal land
    and that sovereignty has never been ceded.

    Hand back every welfare payment then.

  197. Mother Lode

    David Rowe (not sure who the booga-booga figure is meant to be).

    Well don’t ask Rowe. He hasn’t the foggiest notion.

  198. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “The good news is there are people on the frontline who are prepared to protect water, community and living systems to leave a safe planet

    free of humans

  199. Infidel Tiger

    Biden is the last sensible Democrat left alive (apart from lovely Tulsi Gabbard) and he’s a complete loon.

    How scary is that?

  200. John Constantine

    PainChek® partners with the Melbourne Murdoch Children’s Research Institute (MCRI) for Infant App PainFaces Study
    Highlights: – Largest child health research institute in Australia, and one of top three worldwide, to clinically test a version of the PainChek® App for infants;
    – PainChek® Infant PainFaces study will be led by Professor Franz Babl (MCRI) and Associate Professor Di Crellin (MCRI) in the Emergency Department (ED) of the Royal Children’s Hospital;
    – In this new study, which is expected to commence within days, the pain scores derived using the PainChek® Infant App will be compared to those obtained using observational children’s pain assessment tools by two independent assessors in approx. 100 infants undergoing painful procedures within the ED;
    – Results and lessons from the research will support applications for regulatory approval of PainChek® Infant’s App with the Therapeutics Goods Administration (TGA), CE Mark, Europe, and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the USA.

    Mobile phone app for assessing pain in the non-verbal. firstly for medication of nursing home patients, but now for maybe assessing non-verbal infants.

    Sold most my PCK too early last run.

  201. mh

    Kamala Harris might be the one.

  202. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The campaign had raised $2,490’

    Of which $2K will be Bob’s.

    He’s forgotten that green priorities always change when you ask them to put their hands into their own pockets, instead of someone else’s.

  203. C.L.

    Hannity is one of the biggest idiots in ‘conservative’ media nowadays.
    It’s sad because he used to be pretty good.
    Now he’s reduced to “tick tock,” “tomorrow the shoe drops” and “bombshells” (tune in next week).
    Inevitably, there is no tick that tocks, no falling shoes and no bombshells.

  204. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Sovereignty has never been ceded’

    A couple of centuries’ worth of new owners might disagree.

    You’d think a people who survived for so long by killing and where necessary eating their neighbours would understand the concept.

  205. DrBeauGan

    Just got back from a good dinner with Maria. And I’m still alive and have all my bits and pieces.

    I can’t help thinking you lot are a bunch of cowards.

    She has a nose ring and tatts, although not many. She is kind and nice but she doesn’t like walking. Less than one point five clicks each way, and she wanted a taxi.

    We have a date for a trip to the beach, on the strict understanding that we go in a taxi.

    She protested that we needed to go to the restaurant in a taxi on the grounds that the police wouldn’t like a Cuban woman with a European man. This is clearly crap. Nobody can tell by looking at me that I’m not Cuban. I think she is just lazy.

  206. Not Uh oh

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3068321, posted on July 2, 2019 at 10:21 am
    We acknowledge that we live, meet and work on Aboriginal land…………….
    From Bob Brown’s GoFundMe page. Precisely what planet is he on?

    Start worrying when the kiddies have to recite this, or a version of it, at their weekly school assembly. Or is that already happening?

  207. notafan

    When the annual msm ooh those dirty drunken racegoers photo gallery gets put up later this year please everyone remind them of Gladstonbury

  208. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Start worrying when the kiddies have to recite this, or a version of it, at their weekly school assembly. Or is that already happening?

    I think you’ll find that’s been happening for about ten years now.

  209. mh

    Dr BG, what about the Culo?

  210. Roger

    Nobody can tell by looking at me that I’m not Cuban.

    I suspect a Cuban policeman could.

    And while you get to leave, she has to live there.

  211. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3068339, posted on July 2, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Just got back from a good dinner with Maria. And I’m still alive and have all my bits and pieces.

    I can’t help thinking you lot are a bunch of cowards.

    Easy does it Doc, soften the target, lull it into a false sense of security etc. you’ll get what’s coming your way if not careful

    You was warned by many, we can’t be all wrong?

  212. johanna

    Bob Brown waffling on about ‘country’ and ‘elders’ etc – evidently he considers himself to be an honorary blackfella, not a white, rich poove – qualities of which his militant tinted buddies deeply disapprove.

    Deluded old fool.

    Oh, and Queensland Labor must be thrilled to hear that he is about to further torpedo their election chances by setting up a hippie commune of coal haters in the heartland.

    He’s a gift to conservatives.

  213. DrBeauGan

    So much for all the awful warnings. Load of bollocks.

  214. Tom

    Hannity is one of the biggest idiots in ‘conservative’ media nowadays.

    His show is unwatchable because it’s presented like a university lecture, but he is co-ordinating a multi-pronged uncovering of the bureacratic Deep State’s attempt prevent Trump’s election and the three years of harassment of his presidency since then.

    It’s important work, which the rest of the news media is either actively trying to undo or refusing to report and acknowledge. I’ll be monitoring Hannity today — with the sound down.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    Ha, ha.
    Dr BG writing his Cuban romance from the bingo hall aboard the SS Incontinent heading for Noumea.
    Havana lend.

  216. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3068347, posted on July 2, 2019 at 10:52 am

    So much for all the awful warnings. Load of bollocks.

    Hats off to you Doc if it is all legit and fun.
    Don’t know you, but you must have that something special attracting the fair sex.

    Bottle it and send some to KD.

  217. Mark A

    Bottle it and send some to KD.

    Only funning KD!

  218. thefrollickingmole

    Hannity is one of the biggest idiots in ‘conservative’ media nowadays.

    Hannity was always pretty crap.
    When it was Hannity and Colmes it was quite good, Hannitty would fly off the handle and Colmes would drag him back to reality with a few put downs.
    Not a bloke to put in charge of a one man show.

  219. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Easy does it Doc, soften the target, lull it into a false sense of security etc. you’ll get what’s coming your way if not careful

    one of my friends brought out a thai girl from thailand, his biggest concern was that she was playing the long game. should give me him a call

  220. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    She protested that we needed to go to the restaurant in a taxi on the grounds that the police wouldn’t like a Cuban woman with a European man. This is clearly crap

    no its not. it’s high risk for her. she can be accused of being a hooker or a spy.

  221. dover_beach

    Some libertarians are running the argument re the Folau case that what the ARU is doing is really no different to what, say, a Christian school might do to a teacher that is causing public scandal to the school by flouting either in thought or practice, Christian teaching, which the school is instituted to inculcate in students. Now, I think that indicates a key difference between the ARU and a Christian school.; namely, the ARU is not instituted to either defend or promote homosexual activities. But let’s leave that aside, what I think they are really missing here is that the ARU and other institutions, corporations, and the like are doing is silencing speech that is critical of ‘diversity and inclusion’. This is now compounded by the fact these organizations now attempt to dragoon employees into being an ‘ally’ of this or that group.
    Folau has been targeted not only for his view of sodomy but also for his comments about sex and gender. This case represents a public examination of exactly what freedom a private citizen has when engaging as a private citizen in the public square, from recrimination by their employer, whether they are private or public. The idea that their free speech or the freedom of religion is not impacted by their dismissal in circumstances where most large public and public employers have the same ‘diversity and inclusion’ policy is just absurd.

  222. Knuckle Dragger

    Beaugy,

    You’re in the exact same situation a pissed young man finds himself in when dragged out of a pub by a fat chick, five minutes before the ugly lights come on.

    You’ll be escorted back to her pad, a pinpricked condom will be provided – and there you are, stuck with 18 years of child support and wondering what the hell happened. This is, of course, metaphorical but the comparison is valid.

    But no more warnings, from me anyway. You have clearly intellectually outgunned the generations of grifting, extortionate Third Worlders that do this shit for a living.

  223. Knuckle Dragger

    Mark A – nose rings are a disqualifier.

    Tatts not so much, except the jobstoppers and front of thigh disgraces.

  224. Roger

    This is now compounded by the fact these organizations now attempt to dragoon employees into being an ‘ally’ of this or that group.

    “It’s not enough to obey Big Brother, you must love him”.

  225. Mark A

    Wonder if Numbers has any insights re. Doc’s adventures?

  226. Mark A

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3068362, posted on July 2, 2019 at 11:07 am

    Mark A – nose rings are a disqualifier.

    Most definitely.
    I often wonder why they think it’s charming?

    I can’t stand tattoos either, so primitive.
    But that’s just me.

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