Getting the priorities right

The Queensland government disbanded a mining health and safety committee because it didn’t have the right “gender representation,” shortly before four mine and quarry workers died in the state.

Queensland Mines Minister Anthony Lynham today confirmed the committee — which has representatives from the government mines inspectorate, the Queensland Resources Council, and relevant unions — would be re-established this week.

Source: The Australian

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52 Responses to Getting the priorities right

  1. Fred Furkenburger

    Why didn’t they just bite the bullet and ask a couple of the panel members to identify as the correct genders to bring about the balance? 🙂 Could have saved them a bit of time and worries.

  2. duncanm

    All those deaths have been men.

    95% of Australian workplace fatalities are men.

    Just sayin’

  3. mh

    Dead men don’t count to Jackie and Anastacia.

    I’d like to see John Setka tear them both a new one.

  4. RobK

    A high viz shirt won’t do it. Someone has to teach them. A committee will have little impact on its own.

  5. Dr Fred Lenin

    Globalist communists kill people with their stupid nvented dogma , true sucessors of stalin ,mao,pol pot ,castro,che guevarra ,etc etc etc .

  6. Onesided views only.

    And why isn’t this tragedy plastered across their lefty papers and talked about on their ABC…BECAUSE ALPBC are in charge. Just imagine the outcry if LNP did this.

  7. dauf

    thats what Qld is like nowadays…white ribbons, diversity targets and training etc; not service or performance

  8. Tim Neilson

    Sceptical as I am that a government committee would have done anything constructive about the issue anyway, that is world class incompetence.

  9. Mother Lode

    How many of the dead were female and how many male?

    If there is a male bias in incidents wouldn’t make sense yo have a male bias in the organisation supposedly policing these risks?

  10. jupes

    We really do live in the stupidest of times.

  11. alan sivkoff

    the workers party doing it for the workers. when will these mugs ever learn?

  12. Bela Bartok

    Won’t someone think of the tragedy of these deaths from pre-transition trans person, or a bi-curious gay man’s lens of oppression?
    Honestly, you people astonish me with your backward-thinking!
    Raelene Castle has even offered to help fund the committee!

  13. “duncanm
    #3099958, posted on July 8, 2019 at 3:08 pm
    All those deaths have been men.

    95% of Australian workplace fatalities are men.

    Just sayin’”

    Yep…..but that doesn’t concern the marxist feminazis….they’re not concerned with dead men.

  14. IRFM

    Having a passing knowledge of safety in the resources industry, the practices that have evolved over the years have greatly reduced the death and injury toll. The lack of an oversight committee comprising experienced safety practitioners, however, does send the wrong message and does filter down through the regulators to the field. Attitudes count as well. As explained to me by an experienced underground coal mine manager it is better to do the safety correctly from the get go than face the inevitable inquiry if a fatality occurs. That and the black lung disease now reoccurring in Qld suggests there is need for greater intensity of safety efforts across the board.

  15. Bear Necessities

    The questions which should be asked:

    Would this committee have stopped any of these deaths even if it was operating?

    What was the mortality/morbidity rate before and after it was operating?

    And the most important question of all. What toilet does a tranny use at a Quarry?

  16. duncanm

    Mother Lode
    #3100004, posted on July 8, 2019 at 4:11 pm

    If there is a male bias in incidents wouldn’t make sense yo have a male bias in the organisation supposedly policing these risks?

    As JP says — wimminz only want the C-suite.

  17. Lee

    If the “gender representation” went the other way – against men – you could bet London to a brick it wouldn’t even have been an issue.
    Accidents don’t ask what the victim’s gender is.
    We are living in officially barking mad times.

  18. Percy Popinjay

    Would this committee have stopped any of these deaths even if it was operating?

    There probably would have been even more deaths if it had been, especially if that whole “gender balance” thing had been sorted.

  19. Dr Fred Lenin

    Never mind t workers ,what about the gender equality ? The left get their priorities right ,sorry left .

  20. Squirrel

    When it comes to politics and the bureaucracy, life has been imitating art for a long time, at least since the days of Yes, Minister.

    This latest grim farce is like something out of Utopia, except that they would not have linked it to something as serious as a workplace fatality.

  21. Jim Rose

    Do many women work in the mining industry?

  22. Iva Right

    Can’t a few of the original members of the committee transition? But hang on! How about indigenous, LBQTI (or whatever it is?) plus Muslim and dwarf representation? Geez, unless we get the balance right it just can’t happen!

  23. Muddy

    Glass ceiling. Timber coffin.
    Both are gazed at only from below,
    yet just one is a goal, and
    just one can be broken through (in theory).
    One involves sleight of hand. The other is tangible, but only briefly, intensely.
    Myth and magic. Earth and loss.
    Female = Go. Male = ?

  24. Tel

    Do many women work in the mining industry?

    I’m told they are better at driving the big trucks because men get bored easily, lose concentration and drift around a bit, while women find highly repetitive precision tasks easier and they stick to the line a bit better.

    This is just replaying what I’ve heard … on the off-chance anyone is still allowed to believe that men and women might be biologically different.

  25. woolfe

    18% of our workforce on site are female. Including truck drivers, loader operators, excavator and shovel operators and supervision.

  26. Roger

    the workers party doing it for the workers. when will these mugs ever learn?

    Qld miners and those who depend upon them for a living are in a large part responsible for Shorten’s loss

    The dim bulb Palaszczuk & particularly the inner city prog-leftist Trad are on notice.

    Lynham will be left to pick up the pieces.

  27. nb

    jupes at 4:17 pm says:
    We really do live in the stupidest of times.
    Lee at 4:50 pm says:
    We are living in officially barking mad times.

    Global warming; cultural Marxism; weaponization of the US executive by Obama; our own mini-me-Obama-Mr Trumble; Downer and the Steele dossier. We are passing through a dangerous period. I wonder if the 1960s and 70s looked like this to our grandparents.

  28. Scott Osmond

    Yep, we do live in clown world. The reset will be epic. Just wish I was reading about it in a history book instead of living through it.

  29. Nob

    I don’t know what’s more offensive:
    The gender balance bullshit or Sinclair thinking that a government H&S committee has any positive effect on safety.

  30. feelthebern

    Do many women work in the mining industry?

    Yes & the growth rates across all areas would surprise most.

  31. Old Lefty

    As we used to say (very) long ago when I was a member of the Labor Party, ‘what about the workers?:

  32. candy

    Something has gone terribly tragically wrong. In these days and times, it’s shocking.

    So many committees, meetings, groups, information, HR people, courses, quality assurance, but even so, people die on the job.

  33. Aldrydd

    Jim Rose
    #3100039, posted on July 8, 2019 at 5:17 pm
    Do many women work in the mining industry?

    I do, but I travel around to different mines.

  34. BrettW

    When they talk about gender representation what proportion of females were they trying to get on the committee ? Was that proportion same as the number of women in the industry ?

    This will go down as an example of the failure of PC and diversity policies.

    What next ? 50% female representation on a committee to examine the role of the infantry?

  35. mundi

    Just look up how many males work at the “Workplace Gender Equality Agency”.

    Or how they have a $180million IT system for their 46 workers.

    Someone made a nice racket off this insanity.

  36. Sydney Boy

    Interesting how the unions have been jumping up and down and declaring a “safety crisis” in the Qld mining industry. Approximately 50% of workplace deaths are due to inadequate safety systems and the other 50% are due to deliberate worker violations of safety rules. Let’s wait and see what the inevitable regulator investigations reveal.

  37. Tim Neilson

    Let’s wait and see what the inevitable regulator investigations reveal.

    They’ll reveal that the regulator needs more staff, more funding and more powers.

  38. Cardimona

    Fifty percent male workers in creches and kindergartens in our present litigious society?

    Just. Won’t. Happen.

  39. BrettW

    WTF !

    “Or how they have a $180million IT system for their 46 workers”

  40. Dr Faustus

    There appears to be some confusion regarding the various Queensland mining safety advisory committees.

    There are two:

    Coal Mining Safety and Health Advisory Committee – which advises the Minister on issues to do with coal mines and the Coal Mining Act/Regulations. AFAIK, this committee has not been disbanded.

    Mining Safety and Health Advisory Committee – which advises the Minister on issues to do with quarries and mineral mines other than coal. This appears to be the committee that has been disbanded because of gender bias.

    Given the recent fatalities have taken place in coal mines rather than quarries, the sudden panic by the hapless Minister Lynham to reinstate the suspended/disbanded committee is political arse-covering, rather than responding to any specific safety issues.

    Getting the priorities right.

  41. Nob

    Tim Neilson
    #3100328, posted on July 8, 2019 at 9:13 pm
    Let’s wait and see what the inevitable regulator investigations reveal.

    They’ll reveal that the regulator needs more staff, more funding and more powers

    Tim’s got it.

    Next time there’s a resources slump and thousands are made redundant, watch and see how many redundancies the regulators suffer. Usually the sum of Buckley’s, Nunn, and Sweet Fanny Adams.

  42. egg_

    95% of Australian workplace fatalities are men.

    Is that a gender imbalance the feminazis would like to “correct”?
    Crickets?

  43. egg_

    A female miner on a routine break has been crushed to death after she apparently drove into the path of one of the fully-laden 400-tonne dump trucks she was employed to drive.

    Detectives are now investigating how and why the 38-year-old contractor driving a four-wheel to a meal break came to be in the path of the massive machine at an intersection inside Glencore’s Ravensworth open cut mine just before midnight on Saturday.

    Her Toyota Landcruiser was severely crushed before it wedged under the back axle of the dump truck, killing her instantly.

    Went out for lunch and a hairdo?

  44. Up The Workers!

    And if the idiot Leftards finally get their Workplace Gender Diversity Committee organised correctly – with one representative for each of the ’73 different genders’ (and two for the schizophrenics) – they will then demand that most of the workforce, which are predominantly male, be sacked as they don’t have politically correct gender diversity, either.

    Has anybody ever met anybody from the Labor(sic) Party or the Brown Movement who can actually count up to 73?

    Even the legendary A.L.P. numbers man and renowned counting expert, Wayne “The Goose” Swan couldn’t count past 21 with his shoes and socks off and all his digits exposed.

  45. DB

    The gender representation of the fatalities is likely 100% male.

  46. Rockdoctor

    Personally I don’t think this committee is the issue other than showing the ineptitude of Lynham & the unhealthy control fringe dwellers like Trad has on the party. Anyway from the open thread with some minor edits…

    Regrettably most incidents like this happen in poorly lit pits at 2am in the morning. A contract I was on early last year we sat in with the mine prestart meeting. Smaller player. Early morning near misses were frightfully common to the OCE’s & shift bosses palpable frustration. A lot of that came from complacency as workers weren’t speaking up about hazards especially one time where a new rill was too low that the OCE hadn’t spotted yet but drivers seemed to be aware of resulting in a dump backing off a 2m drop. Usually the quarries are a worry as they can be very loose with OH&S and worker temprement. My impressions below and 2 of these places I have worked at on contracts…

    Middlemount is full of faulting and groundwater issues making it challenging for mining engineers and geotechs without throwing the workforce in who on my last foray there didn’t inspire me. There are procedures when near highwalls & unstable ones at that. The fact the worker was buried in a collapse tells me he was to close.

    Saraji, BMA is as Pedro mentioned to the absurd level of safety. However these things still happen even to BHP and I still have pics of a D9 that did a similar manoeuvre at Rio Tinto’s Hail Creek due to taking a short cut along the highwall near where we were last drop drilling. He was lucky a few dozen metres to his left was the drop into the pit over 100m deep.

    Moranbah North, Anglo American also pretty stringent. Underground veh interaction the a grader operator lost his life from. Contricted space, speed or visibility issues could have been contributing factors. Don’t know enough to deduce worker fault or a failure to manage a hazard.

    Baralaba sounding more like a slip issue on an old style truck ladder (most have stairs now) & could even have been contributed to by weather, fatigue & three points of contact. More will follow on this one and the mine has been in & out of administration during the downturn…

    Unsure why the spike as these guys in the fatalities all had decades of experience. OH&S is still very restrictive and penalties in Qld are getting tighter. All I have to say is knee jerks won’t make this any better, cool heads are needed to find the root causes however I am getting an uneasy feel this is where we are headed… Now the media has it & still hasn’t pronounced Baralaba right shows me their interest is superficial and fed by Lynham’s office & the CMFEU as normal…

  47. LBLoveday

    “Went out for lunch and a hairdo?”.

    From afar and without full information, suicide looks a distinct possibility.

  48. Dr Fred Lenin

    He minister is out of her depth what woukd an alp aparatchik know about mining? Or even working ?
    Hse people are strangers to work and real life . Not much reality in the scrabbling ,selfish, deceitfull ,lying world of career politics ,stuff you Jack Im all right is he motto.

  49. thefrollickingmole

    Early morning near misses were frightfully common to the OCE’s & shift bosses palpable frustration.

    Im safety advisor on a small mine, and this is where Im at right now.

    3 months of repeated dumb and freakish incidents with no end in sight.
    Everyone knows what their job is but we still get dump and strange accidents.

    On the comitee.
    Speaking from a WA perspective our mines inspectors were all ex-managers or technicals with years of experience actually running operations before they moved to the dark side.
    meant there was a vast wealth of experience and deep knowledge to back up any notices they put out or corrections they made to operations.
    They were recently folded into general safety in WA, a move which might go very badly if they staff it with shiny bums instead of experienced blokes.

    Early signs arent good.

    The new Department of Mines, Industry Regulation and Safety will be formed by the amalgamation of DMP with the regulatory and labor relations functions of the Department of Commerce.

    The career public servant was appointed DPC Acting Director General in August 2016, and had been the Deputy Director General since August 2008.

    Before DPC, Mr Smith was a member of the Corporate Executive of the Department of Treasury and Finance (DTF), with responsibility for economic policy. He was in the DTF in a variety of positions for 12-years.

    Mr Smith also has more than 20 years of experience in the Commonwealth public service, including the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet and an overseas posting with the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. He has also worked with a private economic consultancy in London.

    In other moves, DMP Deputy Director General Michelle Andrews is moving to the DPC to assist with the State Government’s public sector renewal program.

    The government is initiating a Service Priority Review, led by an independent panel, to provide recommendations on significant and lasting change across the sector.

    The Service Priority Review will report back to the State Government in October, and Ms Andrews will head up the Secretariat supporting the independent panel.

    I have a lot of respect for the old DMP, generally very good resource.

    http://www.dmp.wa.gov.au/Safety/Mines-safety-alerts-13194.aspx

  50. thefrollickingmole

    Also here in WA we had a request go out for new members for a pastoralists forum for the government to be advised” from, because numbers were too low for a quorum.
    As the station the mine is on is still pastoral the RM applied.

    Knocked back by “how many flagons of goon”McTiernan because of lack of gender balance on the group.

  51. Bring in the robotic mining and the human free workplace.

  52. RobK

    Mole,
    I worked for the inspection branch of the WADept of Mines (as it was then) in the early 80s. Even at that time the department in charge of work place safety DOHS,wanted control of mine sites and milling operations. The DMP (dept of minerals and petroleum) has for a long time, had a reputation for being a positive force in the industry. In this new era, perhaps it’s success is its demise.

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