Tuesday Forum: July 9, 2019

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  1. None

    We are friends because we worked together for quite a few years on a NATSIEP group which was successful in recruiting Murris to work in a range of schools in North West Queensland, both RATEP teachers and CECs. 

    There you go again numbers, you were friends because of some public service program which reduces everything to a bunch of meaningless public service acronyms. There is a reason why you do hang around here numbers is that because you truly do not have any friends because you’ve never made a friend in your entire life. You really are just a public service number who’s entire existence is validated only by public service programs you participated in and by public servants you worked with. I mean what are thing to put on your tombstone: “I worked in a NATSIEP group and bitched about it incessantly on a blog. God I was shit hot. OIDRT.”

  2. C.L.

    Putin a grasping dictator
    Warsaw has a brutally realistic view of Vladimir Putin: he’s no friend of Western civilisation.

    GREG SHERIDAN
    Foreign Editor

    At least he didn’t back the destruction of marriage like you did, Greg.
    Don’t go hiding behind Poles when it suits you.
    Putin isn’t the one threatening Western civilisation; the EU is leading that charge.
    Yes, he’s a grasping dictator who hates freedom. But Jean-Claude Juncker is far worse.

  3. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Futile, as in step eight they all move out of the small towns DFAT put them into and go to Sydney and Melbourne. What’s Centrelink going to do, cut off their welfare? The screeching would be earsplitting.

    the entire program is a crock of shit as the courts will absolutely not enforce any restriction of movement.

  4. 1735099

    No.
    You’re acknowledging skin colour.

    You have a thing about skin colour.
    There’s a name for that.

    Go visit a community in the bush.

    I worked for five years in the nineties in these communities – Dajarra, Boulia, Bedourie, Camooweal, Cloncurry and Urandangi.

    If the government use my taxes to celebrate any skin colour, even white, I would be as appalled.

    Consider yourself appalled, although (unlike you) the government doesn’t use skin colour as a descriptor.

    Their Naidoc shirts call for a voice and a treaty.

    Australia remains the only Commonwealth country to have never signed a treaty with its indigenous people. While treaties were established early on in other British dominions such as New Zealand, Canada and in the United States, the situation in Australia has been, often notoriously, different.

    Numbers likes to equate socialist race baiting and calls for the destruction of the west for a week,

    Your obsession with “socialism” (whatever that means this particular minute) compromises your already limited capacity to comprehend and analyse reality.

  5. Oh come on

    Can we just ignore Numpty? The guy has issues. No point engaging him at any length.

  6. None

    And yet numbers never bothered to stay in touch with the Aboriginal servicemen.

  7. struth

    To those that may just lurk.

    Our troll numbers shows us today the self obsession of the left.
    The posts cannot be taken back and can be read at anytime.

    He may not be able to see it, zero self awareness creates hypocrisy.

    But you can see it.
    Most can.
    None of what he posted suggests a concern for his fellow Australians.
    It was all about using them to signal his own moral superiority.
    So he can look down his nose at his political enemies and try to claim the moral high ground he is nowhere near.
    Pathetic, but worth observing, because this selfish leftism is rampant in our society these days thanks to our schools being controlled by the same filth.
    This is classic leftism.

  8. Tintarella di Luna

    Pathetic, but worth observing, because this selfish leftism is rampant in our society these days thanks to our schools being controlled by the same filth.
    This is classic leftism.

    What colour ribbon?

  9. None

    Greg Sheridan is a fuckwit. I’m constantly amazed that he has lasted as long as he has as a foreign affairs editor but then it goes to show just how shallow the Foreign Affairs gene pool is in Australia. The praying mantis, the Teletubby…
    I reckon Tony Abbott would be a far better Foreign Affairs Juno.

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That’s Marise in the middle.

    LOL, the perfect backhander.
    Very droll, CL.

  11. None

    Canadian law used to designate Canadian Indians as non-human. Dammit why didn’t Australia follow the Canadians, says numbers.

  12. 1735099

    And yet numbers never bothered to stay in touch with the Aboriginal servicemen.

    The person described accurately above by Dr B indulges in some very strange fantasies.
    Best ignored….

  13. Oh come on

    Warsaw has a brutally realistic view of Vladimir Putin Russia. The Poles will never trust the Russians and they are completely justified in not doing so.

    Countries like the US, the UK and Australia ought to regard Russia with some suspicion – I don’t think we could ever be allies with Russia, as our interests are too divergent – but we should be able to come to an accommodation with Russia that is far more satisfactory than what exists today.

  14. None

    struth

    #3102516, posted on July 11, 2019 at 1:27 pm

    Yep it’s rather creepy. I can only thank god that the bugger went deaf and had to quit this job.

  15. The Beer Whisperer

    Greg Sheridan is a fuckwit.

    I first read Sheridan after looking elsewhere from Hugh White.

    So how bad does that make Hugh White?

  16. None

    The person described accurately above by Dr B indulges in some very strange fantasies.
    Best ignored….

    this is why numbers found out one of them had died years after the fact. And when I questioned numbers about it he segued off into some meaningless spiel about some public service program. You didn’t just lose your hearing, numbers, you lost your f****** marbles.

  17. “USING aboriginal people to virtue signal is the lowest.”

    But that’s their shtick Struth…leftist scum like the SS guard always use people to virtue signal in order to make themselves look good. The SS guard doesn’t give a shit about the indigenous babies getting raped or indigenous women being bashed within an inch of their lives…..he just likes to prattle on about NAIDOC week coz…you know…..it’s all about his feelings. Like all good leftist scum……virtue signalling makes him feel good and it also obviously allows him to have a daily erection….because nothing else will.

    He’s worse than sad.

  18. struth

    You have a thing about skin colour.
    There’s a name for that.

    Yeah, I’m blind to it, as you should be.

    As a government absolutely should be.

    I worked for five years in the nineties in these communities – Dajarra, Boulia, Bedourie, Camooweal, Cloncurry and Urandangi.

    Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest, they never do get the best and brightest.

    Australia remains the only Commonwealth country to have never signed a treaty with its indigenous people. While treaties were established early on in other British dominions such as New Zealand, Canada and in the United States, the situation in Australia has been, often notoriously, different.

    Aboriginal activists prefer settlement as a term to invade, but seeing the over 200 different aboriginal language groups were busy invading each other before settlement, which one should we do a treaty with?

    Maybe sTan Grant and Bruce Pascoe could arm wrestle to get to represent Australians based on their race.

    You’re sad joke, commo Bob.

  19. None

    Numbers assessing people’s character on the basis of some limp dick septuagenarian getting lap dances by Cuban whores and fretting about STDs. Ah but the lobsters were only $5 ay? How many prostitutes did numbers pay?

  20. Mitch M.

    A wonderful man celebrated …

  21. notafan

    ABC and the aussie dad

    another case of sudden onset ji had syndrome

    Jahangir Alam said Mahir had barely shown any interest in I slam until shortly before he left Australia.

    “I would ask him, ‘I am going to prayer, do you want to go with me?’, and he’d say, ‘Dad I am sleeping, don’t disturb me.’ He has no understanding of the religion at all.”

    In 2014, at the age of 21, Mahir left home for what his parents believed was a 10-day trip to Shepparton, Victoria

    Is lamic State recruit from Melbourne languishes in Kurdish prison as his father begs for his release

  22. Memoryvault

    Can we just ignore Numpty? The guy has issues.
    No point engaging him at any length.

    Excellent advice, OCO. Unfortunately it has been tried, and it failed.
    Too many Cats just can’t help themselves.
    It’s like watch Pavolv ring his little bell, and all the Catallaxy puppies line up for treaties.

    Sad really.

  23. 1735099

    this is why numbers found out one of them had died years after the fact

    Your ignorance of history is appalling.
    My wounded section mate was RTAd.
    That meant he disappeared overnight, and nobody in my unit (who were on operational deployment at the time) had any idea where he was.
    There was no email/internet in 1970.
    After RTA, we were scattered far and wide, and most of us initially wanted to forget about Vietnam.
    I had no personal contact with any of them until about 1983, and gradually, we stated to link up again.
    This happened in fits and starts, until I began attending reunions post about 2000.
    Skin colour had nothing to do with it.
    As it happens, my book has some shots of the surviving Murri digger in it, and after I’d given him a copy at our Melbourne reunion, we’ve stayed in touch.
    This level and frequency of contact is pretty typical.
    It takes the aforesaid “twisted sicko” to identify a racial context.
    Very sad.

  24. notafan

    Such a bargain though none

    Cubans can have six lobster dinners a month on their high salaries if they want.

  25. feelthebern

    WTF is wrong with these people.
    Why is the government doing anything to bring these ISIS recruits or families home?

  26. struth

    Excellent advice, OCO. Unfortunately it has been tried, and it failed.
    Too many Cats just can’t help themselves.
    It’s like watch Pavolv ring his little bell, and all the Catallaxy puppies line up for treaties.

    Sad really.

    Scrolling too much for you?

    Ah the old conservative way, be nice and don’t make a scene.
    We’re above all that , you know.
    How’d that work out for you?

  27. Why is the government doing anything to bring these ISIS recruits or families home?

    They like exploding immigration levels?

  28. struth

    It takes the aforesaid “twisted sicko” to identify a racial context

    Race should have nothing to do with it.

    But hey, you had two of “them” in your unit.
    You’re telling us all that you celebrating the fact your unit had two brown people in it.
    You had two Australian soldiers in your unit.
    Skin colour should be irrelevant.
    It certainly does take a twisted sicko to identify a racial context.

  29. Oh come on

    Nota: one of the great points that Putin made in his FT interview regarding Russia’s intervention in Syria was that it enabled the Russians to kill thousands of Islamic jihadis who came from Russian territory or territory adjacent to Russia; jihadis who would have otherwise returned home to mount further attacks on Russia.

    I have said from the very start of the IS insurgency that Australian intelligence ought to be quietly tracking and systematically eliminating every Australian jihadi and jihadi bride. Their kids can go into Syrian orphanages, I don’t much care. We should not be in a situation where bleeding hearts can fret about these people who now find themselves in refugee camps, and agitate for their return to Australia. No. Let the Syrian justice system deal with them.

  30. Oh come on

    Nota: one of the great points that Putin made in his FT interview regarding Russia’s intervention in Syria was that it enabled the Russians to kill thousands of Islamic ji ha dis who came from Russian territory or territory adjacent to Russia; ji ha dis who would have otherwise returned home to mount further attacks on Russia.

    I have said from the very start of the I S insurgency that Australian intelligence ought to be quietly tracking and systematically eliminating every Australian ji ha di and ji ha di bride. Their kids can go into Syrian orphanages, I don’t much care. We should not be in a situation where bleeding hearts can fret about these people who now find themselves in refugee camps, and agitate for their return to Australia. No. Let the Syrian justice system deal with them.

  31. notafan

    Kudos to Payne for saying this much though.

    I note yet another non combatant hospital worker too

    That makes him one of the 99.99% of Australian ji hardies

    He would like his grandchildren and their mother to come to Australia.

    However, Foreign Affairs Minister Marise Payne said the issue of whether to try to bring children back to Australia was incredibly complex.

    “For some there is an expectation that Australian officials should put themselves in harm’s way to extricate those children who’ve been left by their families,” she said.

    Still, Mr Alam hopes the Government will take pity on his son.

  32. Oh come on

    Nota: one of the great points that Putin made in his FT interview regarding Russia’s intervention in Syria was that it enabled the Russians to kill thousands of Is la mic ji ha dis who came from Russian territory or territory adjacent to Russia; ji ha dis who would have otherwise returned home to mount further attacks on Russia.

    I have said from the very start of the I S insurgency that Australian intelligence ought to be quietly tracking and systematically eliminating every Australian ji ha di and ji ha di bride. Their kids can go into Syrian orphanages, I don’t much care. We should not be in a situation where bleeding hearts can fret about these people who now find themselves in refugee camps, and agitate for their return to Australia. No. Let the Syrian justice system deal with them.

  33. “Mitch M.
    #3102529, posted on July 11, 2019 at 1:40 pm
    A wonderful man celebrated …”

    Thanks Mitch…I was only thinking of Sir Nicholas Winton a few days ago….a man I knew, who passed away recently, had been saved by Winton in 1939.

    Nicholas Winton was a truly great man…a man who should have received the Nobel Peace Prize…but of course he didn’t….because saving Jooooish children from certain death doesn’t count.

  34. Oh come on

    There’s that grandmother of the (happily dead) Khaled Sharrouf’s kids that are still alive – the three teenage girls – who are stuck in Syria. I do feel some sympathy for the grandmother, but taking these three back is far too much of a risk to Australian society. The grandmother can move to Syria if she wants to take care of her granddaughters.

  35. feelthebern

    I have said from the very start of the I S insurgency that Australian intelligence ought to be quietly tracking and systematically eliminating every Australian ji ha di and ji ha di bride.

    As were the French.

  36. Memoryvault

    Struth,

    There’s a difference between not making a scene, and making an idiot of yourself.
    Numbers doesn’t come here to debate anything, he is here because he enjoys shit-stirring. Insults do not upset him, he relishes them. He thrives on it. The more agro the response he gets, the more pleasure he derives from it. He knows he has hit a raw nerve.

    Day in, day out, week after week you feed him. Even by yourself to Numbers you are a five course feast. And if that were not enough, you have a whole legion of helpers waiting their turn to sate his appetite for derailing threads.

    And the really depressing thing is, you’re too bloody pig ignorant and up yourself to realise it.

  37. “Ah the old conservative way, be nice and don’t make a scene.
    We’re above all that , you know.
    How’d that work out for you?”

    Struth is right….as is Donald Trump….this is the way…

    Don’t be nice and do make a scene….a big scene…especially when dealing with a racist Jooo hating hypocrite called Scumbers.

  38. Mother Lode

    The only “twisted sicko” on this blog is the SS guard….and he is the real racist.

    ‘Tis true!

    People who wish to call attention to their not being racist are always making statements equivalent to “I like these people even though they are a different race!”

    And people who don’t avow this conspicuously virtuous paradigm are therefore deemed to be racist.

  39. None

    My mate recovered from his wound and was discharged back in Oz at the end of Nasho to live in Alice Springs. I was working in Alpurrurulam (Lake Nash) in the mid nineties, and ran into one of his relatives who told me he’d died – not exactly sure when, but some time late eighties or early nineties.

    Those are your words, numbers. Your so-called “mate” who died and you didn’t even know about it. Keep f****** that chicken.

  40. “““Ah the old conservative way, be nice and don’t make a scene.
    We’re above all that , you know.
    How’d that work out for you?””

    Didn’t work out well for Abbott….or Pell…did it?

  41. Memoryvault

    Don’t be nice and do make a scene….a big scene…

    Excellent advice, Cassie.
    Now perhaps you could direct me to “the big scene” you have created recently.

    Hint – feeding Numbers daily doesn’t count.

  42. None

    notafan

    #3102533, posted on July 11, 2019 at 1:46 pm

    Isn’t it just, notafan, all that cheerful squalor and those wonderful dilapidated buildings and blocked sewers which are just postcard-perfect. The colour! The cheap food!

  43. A quick question to any industrial chemists out there:
    A search of my garage junkheap has found a jar containing about a dozen CPUs that I’ve collected over the years.
    What’s the easiest way to liberate the gold from the chip substrate?
    Burning the substrate off seems to be the way to go, but how about acid/alkali/solvents?

  44. struth

    MV, maybe I should stick to giving us running descriptions of cunnilingus with the dearly departed.

    I do beg your pardon, I thought it was a political blog.

    However, I have explained my position on why I do things, especially regarding lefty trolls.

    Lately I feel you might be more at home with writing letters to the editor of Penthouse, if you can’t bring yourself to scroll past the politics.

    May I take this opportunity to explain to you that much of what you write, especially about women and foreplay , I think is inappropriate, but have never said anything, because I just scroll past shit.
    People talk about sport, kooban prostitutes, all sorts of shit, but let’s not pull a lefty apart on a political blog!!

    Again feel free to scroll past.
    It ain’t compulsory reading.

  45. Memoryvault

    How’d that work out for you?

    Quite well, Struth. The ID Card legislation though passed, was DOA, and never implemented.
    Now tell us all how your Convoy of No Consequence worked out for you.

  46. OCO:

    I have said from the very start of the I S insurgency that Australian intelligence ought to be quietly tracking and systematically eliminating every Australian ji ha di and ji ha di bride. Their kids can go into Syrian orphanages, I don’t much care.

    I’m with you all the way, OCO, but who will give the order?

  47. Mitch M.

    Sugar in fruit juice may raise risk of cancer, study finds

    This finding is consistent with a number of other studies and the known energy production of cancer cells and inflammatory mediating immune cells. Fruit juice is another example of how Big Food has contributed towards increasing cardiovascular disease, cancer, obesity, type 2 diabetes, systemic inflammation and fatty liver. When I checked the literature I found that eating whole fruit doesn’t not cause the same massive blood sugar spike that occurs with fruit juice and sodas. I’m not entirely convinced of that but the trade off is some fruits are invaluable sources of nutrients.

  48. “struth
    #3102555, posted on July 11, 2019 at 2:18 pm”

    Excellent comment Struth.

  49. feelthebern

    Mark HFCS causes inflammation.
    The report you quote is one of many.

  50. notafan

    Yeap Putin did well to take that option after Beslan and other attacks there is no foolishness in Russia

    the dad is clearly concerned his son will end up on death row in Iraq

    bad luck

    he knew where he was going

    and dad would have been delighted if he had been ‘martyred’ and a family reunion in jannah was thus guaranteed (good luck with that)

  51. Steve trickler

    Up and close and still largely unknown. Hardcore vision of the Moon.



  52. struth

    Quite well, Struth. The ID Card legislation though passed, was DOA, and never implemented.
    Now tell us all how your Convoy of No Consequence worked out for you.

    Excellent, thank you for asking.

  53. Leigh Lowe

    When I checked the literature I found that eating whole fruit doesn’t not cause the same massive blood sugar spike that occurs with fruit juice and sodas. I’m not entirely convinced of that but the trade off is some fruits are invaluable sources of nutrients.

    My doc explains that as the fact that sugar in juices is in solution and can be absorbed within seconds.
    With whole fruit the stomach must break down the structure of the fruit to access the sugar, so absorption is slower.

  54. notafan

    There’s that grandmother of the (happily dead) Khaled Sharrouf’s kids that are still alive – the three teenage girls – who are stuck in Syria. I do feel some sympathy for the grandmother, but taking these three back is far too much of a risk to Australian society. The grandmother can move to Syria if she wants to take care of her granddaughters.

    I think are home, they are certainly out of Syria

    two teen girls, one eight year old boy and 3 2 and 0 year old children of the 18 yo

    I hope they all abandon is lam with gay abandon

  55. Memoryvault

    I do beg your pardon, I thought it was a political blog.

    Now I’m really confused, Struth.
    Outside of entertaining the resident troll, for quite some time your main topic of conversation here was your country and western gigs at assorted regional venues. Care to explain the “politics”
    angle in that?

    BTW the comment about cunnilingus was part and parcel of the main topic of conversation here at the time, the claim that men who prefer shaved pubic areas were all closet ped0 viles.
    I’m at a loss to understand the “politics” in that thread, as well. Care to explain?

  56. “I hope they all abandon is lam with gay abandon”

    They won’t…and my prediction is that we will be hearing about them in the future due to an incident or two.

  57. Mother Lode

    And yet numbers never bothered to stay in touch with the Aboriginal servicemen.

    Might have been a deliberate decision the other way round.

  58. feelthebern

    They won’t…and my prediction is that we will be hearing about them in the future due to an incident or two.

    These kids, this family is broken.
    Every penny spent on them should be spent on breaking the cycle of indigenous kids.

  59. Memoryvault

    Excellent, thank you for asking.

    No probs, Struth.
    Ultimately it became Alan Jones’ “Lock the Gate” movement to close down gas exploration here in Oz.

    You must be just bursting with pride.

  60. feelthebern

    David Gallop stepping down from FFA.
    First of a few, I’m sure.

  61. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I think are home, they are certainly out of Syria

    IIRC, the “Australian” reported that said children were home.

  62. notafan

    I think there is a Cat fight going on

    Hopefully Pedro is still safely in the (wood) shed

  63. struth

    Outside of entertaining the resident troll, for quite some time your main topic of conversation here was your country and western gigs at assorted regional venues. Care to explain the “politics”
    angle in that?

    Now you really are being hurtful.

    County and Western, hmmf……………………………….

    That’s below the belt.
    Here’s the big secret, it’s supposed to be a political blog.
    You know it’s not about politics here all the time, but you seem to get pissed off if people stat talking about it, instead of genitalia, or whatever else you’re focussed on lately.
    Scroll, is all I’m saying, scroll

    and you have a scroll wheel in the middle of that thing you have you hand on……………………….
    No, the other hand.

  64. max

    They won’t…and my prediction is that we will be hearing about them in the future due to an incident or two.

    Yes, if they were to attack a politician, or ABC Ultimo, the tune we’re hearing might change.

  65. struth

    Ultimately it became Alan Jones’ “Lock the Gate” movement to close down gas exploration here in Oz.

    No, Ultimately it finished on the drive home, smart arse.

  66. notafan

    Not agreeing with everything in this piece, but worth reading, all the same

    From Tabletmag

    Which leaves the strange reality that Donald Trump, with all his incuriosity about geopolitics, with all his tone-deafness to history, with all his scattershot policymaking, with all his sloppy disregard of groups and their histories, is more accurate and reliable about the Middle East and Israel than the current crop of Democrats. His zero-sum approach to international relations is as skewed as Obama’s institutionalist one, but in the context of eight years of accommodation, Trump is a corrective. He’s certainly right in his read of Iran, whose leadership doesn’t think in terms of an “international order” but, like Putin, in terms of power maximization. And, whatever Trump’s vagaries when it comes to Russia—which aren’t, incidentally, affecting U.S. foreign policy, if the Times is to be believed—he sees that Iran needs to be contained. Maybe not through war, which he’s wisely reluctant to enter into, but through a policy that strengthens our historical allies in the region—Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, and the several emirates—at Iran’s expense.

    He’s also right, if only by happenstance, about the Middle East and its larger historical incongruities. The most telling move he’s made vis-a-vis this reality was the recognition that the Golan Heights is no longer a part of Syria, Indeed, this has been true for years, even when Syria was “cohesive”: Countable pieces of ostensibly Syrian territory, other “Golans,” that are not actually governed by Damascus, and that are hostile to and victimized by central rule, have been a fact of life. In contrast, the Democrats have created an intellectual structure where the Golan Heights is a recognizable part of Syria, and where Syria is a recognizable functioning state—both of which are demonstrably absurd. But it’s what happens when you try to bend reality to an ideal.

    The illusions and realities of American foreign policy in the Middle East from Oslo to Cairo to Trump and beyond

  67. notafan

    Which leaves the strange reality that Donald Trump, with all his incuriosity about geopolitics, with all his tone-deafness to history, with all his scattershot policymaking, with all his sloppy disregard of groups and their histories, is more accurate and reliable about the Middle East and Israel than the current crop of Democrats. His zero-sum approach to international relations is as skewed as Obama’s institutionalist one, but in the context of eight years of accommodation, Trump is a corrective. He’s certainly right in his read of Iran, whose leadership doesn’t think in terms of an “international order” but, like Putin, in terms of power maximization. And, whatever Trump’s vagaries when it comes to Russia—which aren’t, incidentally, affecting U.S. foreign policy, if the Times is to be believed—he sees that Iran needs to be contained. Maybe not through war, which he’s wisely reluctant to enter into, but through a policy that strengthens our historical allies in the region—Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, and the several emirates—at Iran’s expense.

    He’s also right, if only by happenstance, about the Middle East and its larger historical incongruities. The most telling move he’s made vis-a-vis this reality was the recognition that the Golan Heights is no longer a part of Syria, Indeed, this has been true for years, even when Syria was “cohesive”: Countable pieces of ostensibly Syrian territory, other “Golans,” that are not actually governed by Damascus, and that are hostile to and victimized by central rule, have been a fact of life. In contrast, the Democrats have created an intellectual structure where the Golan Heights is a recognizable part of Syria, and where Syria is a recognizable functioning state—both of which are demonstrably absurd. But it’s what happens when you try to bend reality to an ideal.

  68. feelthebern

    Kate Langbroek had one interaction with what other Melbournians face every day.
    Then she moved her family to another country.

  69. notafan

    not agreeing with everything but interesting

    link to the article at Tablet mag

  70. Mitch M.

    How to improve health outcomes for Indigenous peoples by making space for self-determination

    There is nothing in this to demonstrate a causal connection between treaties and health outcomes for indigenous peoples. The desperate attempt to link treaties and self determination to improving health outcomes has a serious problem because in New Zealand and Canada indigenous peoples still experience poor physical and psychological health. Good health is about personal behavior not symbolic gestures. In relation to indigenous peoples there are some other evolutionary relevant issues to consider but raising that in public debate is verboten. Treaties haven’t work over there and won’t work here.

  71. max

    Alex Acosta: “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone…”

    Anyone come across the conspiracy theory that says this whole Epstein scandal is a Mossad/ CIA operation aimed at nudging Trump into war with Iran ?

  72. Memoryvault

    Now you really are being hurtful.

    Struth, FFS go and read your own bloody post at 1.48 pm that started all this.
    And FFS grow up. If you can’t take it try refraining from dishing it out.

  73. “max
    #3102577, posted on July 11, 2019 at 2:39 pm
    They won’t…and my prediction is that we will be hearing about them in the future due to an incident or two.

    Yes, if they were to attack a politician, or ABC Ultimo, the tune we’re hearing might change.”

    Oh who could forget that threat to attack ABC Ultimo…and who could forget Quadrant’s craven apology to the ABC….for what?

    Ah yes….the old conservative way, always be nice, never make a scene and always prostrate yourself to the left. Guaranteed to ensure respect.

  74. feelthebern

    Alex Acosta: “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone…”

    Where did you get that ?

  75. notafan

    Kate Langbroek is very lucky she can up and move to Italy when things get a little icky

    I love Bologna but very cold in winter

  76. Memoryvault

    No, Ultimately it finished on the drive home

    No, Struth. Ultimately it “finished” when nobody bothered to get names and contact details on the way down. By the time you got to Canberra all that was left was performing the last rites.

    Tell us again where you all parked your rigs?

  77. “And FFS grow up. If you can’t take it try refraining from dishing it out.”

    Pot calling kettle black here.

  78. struth

    Now you really are being hurtful.

    Struth, FFS go and read your own bloody post at 1.48 pm that started all this.
    And FFS grow up. If you can’t take it try refraining from dishing it out.

    You started this by complaining about us taking on Numbers.

    Don’t open your fat gob in the condescending way you first did, and you won’t get the response you got.

    Here, let’s read it again.

    Excellent advice, OCO. Unfortunately it has been tried, and it failed.
    Too many Cats just can’t help themselves.
    It’s like watch Pavolv ring his little bell, and all the Catallaxy puppies line up for treaties.

    Sad really.

    That’s what started it sunshine, and you deserve everything you’ve got.

  79. max

    Maybe not through war, which he’s wisely reluctant to enter into, but through a policy that strengthens our historical allies in the region—Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, and the several emirates—at Iran’s expense.

    OK, but the main objective must be to stop Iran getting a bomb, and as things are at the moment, the only way to stop them is war. It wouldn’t start with an invasion but a year or two bombing bases and taking out air defences. It would create havoc everywhere because of the oil but I don’t see any other way of ending the Mullah nuclear threat. China’s response would be instructive.

  80. “notafan
    #3102582, posted on July 11, 2019 at 2:45 pm
    not agreeing with everything but interesting

    link to the article at Tablet mag”

    Very good article Nota….I regularly read Tablet….great stuff.

  81. struth

    No, Struth. Ultimately it “finished” when nobody bothered to get names and contact details on the way down. By the time you got to Canberra all that was left was performing the last rites.

    Armchair expert.
    you’ve lost it MV.
    I’m considering how old and bitter about things you would be at the moment, so you haven’t made a lot of sense for a while now.
    Take it easy old fella.

  82. max

    Many people had assumed Epstein was untouchable merely because he had so much dirt on so many powerful people, but it increasingly looks far bigger than that. It appears he may have been untouchable because he was systematically collecting this information on behalf of an intelligence agency. If so, we need to find out precisely who he was working for.

    This should be the number one story in the country right now. Blackmail at this level is a genuine national security issue.

  83. Memoryvault

    That’s what started it sunshine, and you deserve everything you’ve got.

    Sorry Struth, it must be my fading eyesight.
    But I just can’t see where you are mentioned in that comment.
    Maybe you could point out to me where it says “Struth”?

    Truth is my comment was about many Cats in general.
    YOU chose to make it personal.
    But hey – if the cap fits, wear it.

  84. OK, but the main objective must be to stop Iran getting a bomb, and as things are at the moment, the only way to stop them is war.

    Hand the mullahs over to Vikpol. They can investigate, charge and incarcerate religious figures in a few days.

  85. Memoryvault

    I’m considering how old and bitter about things you would be at the moment, so you haven’t made a lot of sense for a while now.

    Last bastion of the pig ignorant.
    When all else fails descend to personal insults.
    You and Dot would make a good team – that is his favoured ploy too.

    But on a brighter note, we’ve discouraged Numbers from commenting for nearly two hours now.
    See what happens when the prick gets ignored.

  86. “But on a brighter note, we’ve discouraged Numbers from commenting for nearly two hours now.
    See what happens when the prick gets ignored.”

    Rubbish…he’s always quiet this time of day…it’s his nap time. Nothing to do with “ignoring him”.

  87. struth

    Sorry Struth, it must be my fading eyesight.
    But I just can’t see where you are mentioned in that comment.
    Maybe you could point out to me where it says “Struth”?

    Truth is my comment was about many Cats in general.
    YOU chose to make it personal.
    But hey – if the cap fits, wear it.

    Pathetic bullshit.

    I was one of the people getting stuck in so your generalization covers me, of course it does.
    It was condescending, pompous, and considering the bullshit we’ve read from you, quite hypocritical.

    So just scroll, or if you wanna have a go and be a smart arse, expect some flak.

    You started this, all you had to do with scroll, but you wanted to be a condescending smart arse.

  88. Indolent

    Alex Acosta: “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone…”

    I am quite prepared to believe that this was what he was told. And it would have come from the very top – people who were determined to cover their own backsides and stop Epstein, who had dirt on most of them, from talking. The whole affair was swept under the carpet and quickly and efficiently as they could manage. Nothing whatever to do with “intelligence”. And the FBI, which was headed by none other than Mueller at the time, was happy to play along.

  89. Max:
    Create a nuclear weapon that is a ‘Fizzer’.
    That is, will not produce its full potential and just fizzes out.
    Create it with the same isotopic signatures that China uses.
    Smuggle it into Iran on a donkey and detonate it. (The weapon, not the donkey.)
    Instead of 400kt at full throttle, dial it down to 20kt.
    Blame the Iranians for using Chinese materiel.
    I’ll bet someone has thought of it….
    🙂

  90. Memoryvault

    Fair enough, Struth.
    Consider yourself scrolled.
    Now you and Cassie – and others – can go back to feeding the troll in peace.

  91. Lilliana

    Australia remains the only Commonwealth country to have never signed a treaty with its indigenous people. While treaties were established early on in other British dominions such as New Zealand, Canada and in the United States, the situation in Australia has been, often notoriously, different.

    Good – treaties will solve nothing and only increase division. There is no nation to have a treaty with. This “first nations’ business is a load of racist BS. Disparate tribes are not a nation.

    There is only nation – Australia – with laws that apply to everyone equally. If you don’t like it get in the tardis and change history.

    The whole treaty business is all about getting as much money as possible out of white fellas.

  92. pete m

    Arguing over whether to argue with another who argues frequently. I can see how this is playing out nicely for him.

    As Sinc has said he doesn’t post much that is objectionable – people seem to be highly triggered.

    Please for the love of all that is nice in this world STOP discussing oral sex, period!

    Dr BG – there is something to the line you are taking advantage of women who would not normally act in this way but for their socio-economic position. You suggest this yourself, and then seem wonderous they have sought to get you into bed to further their foothold. Really. Your claimed innocence is BS and is what is demeaning to women. By all means have your fun and games while you learn their culture (strange way BTW), and skite about being the white gringo there – just don’t expect any respect from ladies or gentlemen.

  93. Woolfe

    For those waiting for the next instalment its 01:34 in Cuba

  94. Farmer Gez

    Hand the mullahs over to Vikpol. They can investigate, charge and incarcerate religious figures in a few days.

    Speaking of a Vicpol, I’m in the city for a few days.
    Two cops get out of a car and head into a shopping centre on Sydney Road with me a short distance behind.
    Two genders on display and both short and dumpy.
    I’m a middle aged bloke and could be a bit fitter and lose half a dozen kilos but I’m in way better shape than these Vicpol Teletubbies on doughnut patrol.

  95. Steve trickler

    Big Boy, pulling freight.



  96. on Sydney Road with me a short distance behind

    Good. Now head North (about 900 km) as quick as you can.

  97. max

    And what, I kept thinking, about Iran, whose autocratic policymakers’ main aim was, and remains, preserving their power by inflating the bogeyman of America?

    This does not do justice to the florid madness of the Mullahs. There is more to them than a secular, rationalist journalist can plumb.

    In a speech on November 16th, Ahmadinejad spoke of his belief in the return of the
    Twelfth Imam. One of the differences between Sunni and Shi’ite I slam is that the latter,
    who dominate Iran and form the majority in Iraq, believe that Al lah shielded or hid
    Muhammad al-Mahdi as the Twelfth Imam until the end of time. Shi’ites expect the Twelfth Imam, which J ews and Christians would recognize as a messianic figure, to return to save the world when it had descended into chaos. Shi’ite orthodoxy has it that humans are powerless to encourage the Twelfth Imam to return. However, in Iran a group called the Hojjatieh believe that humans can stir up chaos to encourage him to return.

  98. johanna

    Been lurking the last few days, well behind, but it’s been fun.

    First, for those who missed it, I commend JC (yep, hell has frozen over) for this link to a Mother Jones article about the despair of caring climate ‘scientists.’ These people are deranged, neurotic and sad. Some of them lie awake all night worrying about climate Armageddon. Others fell into deep depression after the Trump victory, being unable to function, in one case ‘even though she has four children’ because da planet. Poor kids.

    They are cranky because orthodox science requires them to separate their emotions from the data. Imagine that! Outrageous!

    I have watched with some amusement as Dr BG has gently but effectively baited certain people here who have nannying, condescending and bullying tendencies. Talk about flushing them out. Well done, sir. 🙂

    Given the real atrocities being enacted against women in poor countries every day (not to mention in Aboriginal communities right here) the rage and bile of some middle class western wimminses against – nothing at all of substance – is very revealing.

    Signed – A Shiksa who was born blonde and had little need for body hair removal. 😉

  99. zyconoclast

    Electrical Engineer Convicted of Conspiring to Illegally Export to China Semiconductor Chips with Missile Guidance Applications

    An electrical engineer has been found guilty of multiple federal criminal charges, including engaging in a scheme to illegally obtain integrated circuits with military applications that later were exported to China without the required export license. Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers, U.S. Attorney Nicola T. Hanna for the Central District of California and Assistant Director in Charge Paul Delacourt of the FBI’s Los Angeles Field Office made the announcement.

    After a six-week trial, Yi-Chi Shih, 64, a part-time Los Angeles resident, was found guilty on June 26 of conspiracy to violate the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), a federal law that makes illegal, among other things, certain unauthorized exports. The jury also found Shih guilty of mail fraud, wire fraud, subscribing to a false tax return, making false statements to a government agency and conspiracy to gain unauthorized access to a protected computer to obtain information. Shih was convicted of all 18 counts in a federal grand jury indictment.

    United States District Judge Kronstadt, who presided over a trial that spanned seven weeks in Los Angeles, California, decided on Monday that he will later consider the forfeiture allegations in the indictment, where the government is seeking that Shih should forfeit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Judge Kronstadt discharged the jury that previously had been scheduled today to consider forfeiture allegations against Shih.

    United States District Judge John A. Kronstadt will also schedule a sentencing hearing, where Shih faces a statutory maximum sentence of 219 years in federal prison.

  100. zyconoclast

    Ancient pyramid found on Aegean island reveals beginnings of ancient Greek civilisation

    The long-buried structure, dating back at least 4,600 years, was constructed of marble transported from nearby Aegean islands on tiny wooden ships.

    “It is by far the largest prehistoric marine transport operation that has ever come to light anywhere in the world,” said Dr Julian Whitewright, a leading maritime archaeologist at the University of Southampton, told the Independent.

    “It demonstrates quite clearly just how important, and integral to their culture, seafaring was to these early Bronze Age Aegean people.”

  101. I was wondering, initially, why so many cats wanted to identify as a shilka.
    My bad.

  102. notafan

    Gosh a scolding from yet another person whose opinion I value very highly.

    Rage bile lol

    One might call that hysterical overstatement

    And revealing of what, exactly ?

    All that is missing is Jesuitical, sophistry and Spanish Infanta.

  103. Bruce of Newcastle

    We’re ripe for a new religion awaiting the Twelfth Climate Scientist.

  104. zyconoclast

    Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act exposes Silicon Valley’s hollow diversity slogans

    Silicon Valley says it loves diversity, but the industry only wants workers from one country — and it’s not America.

    An estimated 71 percent of the workforce in Silicon Valley is foreign-born. The majority are Indian nationals; nearly 70 percent of those who come on H-1B visas — a favorite of Big Tech — hail from India. Additionally, many tech firms have a sizable presence in India itself.

    And the reason tech giants love Indian-born workers? They tend to work for far less than American workers.

  105. Harlequin Decline

    Back into Sydney on Monday after leaving Hay early morning well before sunrise. Fog for the first 100km towards Narrandera then, fortuitously as it cleared we overtook a Nissan Patrol plus trailer-no tail lights on either vehicle.

    The countryside from Wagga through to Goulburn looked in much better shape compared to when we drove out in May although the dams still seemed to be well under 50% full.

    BTW the number of Nissan Patrols out in the bush have declined significantly. We saw as many Land/Range Rovers as Patrols. Their lack of a diesel in the models since 2016 has really gutted their sales.

  106. struth

    I have watched with some amusement as Dr BG has gently but effectively baited certain people here who have nannying, condescending and bullying tendencies. Talk about flushing them out. Well done, sir.

    None of those tendencies can be applied to you, can they Johanna?
    You’re above all that?

  107. Zyconoclast:
    Fine every company that did this the equivalent to the cumulative salary lost to US citizens.
    Then go through every application and find out the first US citizen who didn’t get employed.
    If that person isn’t employed now, they get the fine as compensation for the bigotty bigots.
    Bastards.

  108. Black Ball

    Good Lord is Al Gore in Melbourne? Absolutely freezing with some Flannerys

  109. Bruce of Newcastle

    the main objective must be to stop Iran getting a bomb

    Not a bomb. The bomb.

    Just What Was That Stricken Russian Submarine Carrying? (8 July)

    Russian servicemen ‘averted planetary catastrophe’ during nuclear submarine accident, military official claims at funeral…

    Kremlin refuses to reveal mission of vessel, citing state secrets.

    The best guess I’ve seen is a high-yield, 100 – 200 megaton, cobalt thermonuclear bomb.

    A bomb that size, two to four times more powerful than the biggest ever exploded, the Soviet Tsar Bomba (limited to 50 MT to allow the delivery plane a chance to escape) a bomb that size is awful enough but if it is encased in cobalt it becomes the most lethal munition ever built.

    Here’s MIT physicist Max Tegmark at the HuffPo in 2015: Dr. Strangelove Is Back: Say ‘Hi’ to the Cobalt Bomb!

    “I must confess that, as a physics professor, some of my nightmares are extra geeky. My worst one is the C-bomb, a hydrogen bomb surrounded by large amounts of cobalt. When I first heard about this doomsday device in Stanley Kubrik’s dark nuclear satire Dr. Strangelove, I wasn’t sure if it was physically possible. Now, I unfortunately know better, and it seems like it Russia may be building it.

    The idea is terrifyingly simple: Just encase a really powerful H-bomb in massive amounts of cobalt.

    When it explodes, it makes the cobalt radioactive and spreads it around the area or the globe, depending on the design. The half-life of the radioactive cobalt produced is about five years, which is long enough to give the fallout plenty of time to settle before it decays and kills, but short enough to produce intense radiation for a lot longer than you’d last in a fallout shelter. There’s almost no upper limit to how much cobalt and explosive power you can put in nukes that are buried for deterrence or transported by sea, and climate simulations have shown how hydrogen bombs can potentially lift fallout high enough to enshroud the globe, so if someone really wanted to risk the extinction of humanity, starting a C-bomb arms race is arguably one of the most promising strategies.”

    Just the sort of thing needed to get the Twelfth Imam’s attention.

  110. Harlequin Decline;

    BTW the number of Nissan Patrols out in the bush have declined significantly. We saw as many Land/Range Rovers as Patrols. Their lack of a diesel in the models since 2016 has really gutted their sales.

    The lack of a high displacement diesel has been a pain in the arse.
    A V6/V8 diesel of 6.5l at a reasonable price would be a killer.

  111. Bruce of Newk:

    Just the sort of thing needed to get the Twelfth Imam’s attention.

    IIRC, both the US and Russia had developed cobalt shells for their nukes for use against China after the boast of there being 400 million Chinese left after a war to take over the Eurasian landmass.

  112. P

    Failure to engage faith community on religious freedom causes concern

    “Australian Catholic bishops and law experts are concerned the Federal Government’s attempt to draft a religious freedom bill without early consultation with religious leaders will result in ineffective protections for believers.”

    “ ‘With a quarter of Australians identifying as Catholic and more than half as Christians, and as the providers of education, healthcare and welfare to a very large proportion of the Australian population, you can appreciate the Catholic Church’s interest in the course of any conversations about freedom of religion’, he said.”

  113. zyconoclast

    Banned Chinese Security Cameras Are Almost Impossible to Remove

    An August deadline to remove them from federal agencies likely won’t be met as many departments don’t even know what cameras they’re using.

    U.S. federal agencies have five weeks to rip out Chinese-made surveillance cameras in order to comply with a ban imposed by Congress last year in an effort to thwart the threat of spying from Beijing.

    But thousands of the devices are still in place and chances are most won’t be removed before the Aug. 13 deadline. A complex web of supply chain logistics and licensing agreements make it almost impossible to know whether a security camera is actually made in China or contains components that would violate U.S. rules.

  114. zyconoclast

    Who is responsible for paying reparations in this case?

    Two brothers, mother arrested over allegedly keeping woman in slavery

    Two brothers and their mother will spend Wednesday night behind bars after they allegedly participated in keeping an Afghan woman as a slave in Sydney’s west, while she was married to one of the men.

    A 39-year-old man, his 28-year-old brother and their 58-year-old mother were arrested by Australian Federal Police officers at a home in Merrylands on Wednesday, in the culmination of an investigation first launched in March last year.

  115. johanna

    If you don’t care about my opinion, why comment on it? Triggered, are we?

    People like you are the grist in the Trumpster’s mill.

  116. Bruce in WA

    United States District Judge John A. Kronstadt will also schedule a sentencing hearing, where Shih faces a statutory maximum sentence of 219 years in federal prison.

    Lucky man — he could’ve got life!

  117. Harlequin Decline

    Agree with IT’s comment on Freo. When we came in from the bush in the 60’s we lived in Freo. It was a rough blue collar town with people working at the port, abattoirs down the road, factories, market gardens and housing commission suburbs A number of kids in my primary school and my street ended up in jail.

    It got a makeover around America’s Cup time and then went into decline. Every time I revisited it after leaving it seemed a bit fucked up. The town planning which failed to integrate the newer buildings was and still is especially abysmal.

    However this time I visited I thought it had improved, I didn’t see too many derros and it looked clean.

    It was interesting to see Bousfields Menswear on High Street, where I used to buy clothes was still operating, it must now have been going for 50+ years.

  118. Steve trickler

    Goolag shut this channel down.



  119. zyconoclast

    Intervener Status Granted to B’[email protected] Br1th Canada in Legal Battle over J00wish Voting Rights

    TORONTO – The League for Human Rights of B’[email protected] Br1th Canada has been granted intervener status in an upcoming legal battle over the date of Canada’s October federal election.

    The intersection of the J00wish calendar and the federal election schedule pose significant obstacles for observant J00ws in 2019. Election Day falls on Sh3mini Atz3ret, a holiday on which observant J00ws cannot vote or campaign. In addition, the four advance polling days also fall on J00wish holidays or on the Sabbath, or on abbreviated days immediately preceding them.

    In June, Chani Aryeh-Bain and Ira Walfish – the J00wish Conservative nominee for the riding of Eglinton-Lawrence and a J00wish resident of York Centre, respectively – filed suit in Federal Court. They argued that the Chief Electoral Officer acted unreasonably in failing to move the date of the election, as explicitly provided for in the Canada Elections Act when Election Day is “in conflict with a day of cultural or religious significance.”

    For 1% of the population

  120. Harlequin Decline

    Winston Smith
    #3102633, posted on July 11, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    Nissan have effectively handed the market over to Toyota. I’ve heard the excuses from Nissan but they don’t ring true-why can Toyota can make a go of it but Nissan can’t?

  121. C.L.

    United States District Judge John A. Kronstadt will also schedule a sentencing hearing, where Shih faces a statutory maximum sentence of 219 years in federal prison.

    Yeah, but he’ll be out in, like, 135.

  122. zyconoclast

    Walmart’s Supplier Says Chinese Factories in ‘Desperate’ State

    The world’s largest supplier of consumer goods says China’s factories are getting “urgent and desperate” as worried U.S. retailers accelerate a move out of the country amid heightened trade tensions.

  123. Steve trickler

    A double up. Oops.

  124. zyconoclast

    The ‘Satanic’ Brotherhood with clergymen in its ranks
    Freemasonry: Dr Rowan Williams reveals his concerns over a secret society he believes is incompatible with the Christian faith

  125. Notafan

    I comment as I like, and I wanted to, do I did.

    Trumpster? Is that who you think you are? Bizarre.

    Stick to demanding people talk about ‘something else’ or telling us about that time you were on the back of a Harley for the one thousandth time, if you please.

  126. Bruce of Newcastle

    Amazing!! Eagle life with cat and people

    Had a cocky lightly bite my finger half an hour ago – it was aiming for the piece of bread and missed. I don’t think I’d want to hand-feed those two handsome birdies.

  127. Steve trickler

    It is good to hear Pam’s voice again.

    I reckon green filth got her shutdown.



  128. zyconoclast

    Winston Smith
    #3102629, posted on July 11, 2019 at 4:05 pm
    Zyconoclast:
    Fine every company that did this the equivalent to the cumulative salary lost to US citizens.
    Then go through every application and find out the first US citizen who didn’t get employed.
    If that person isn’t employed now, they get the fine as compensation for the bigotty bigots.
    Bastards.

    Or more simply shut down this and any similar visa class. Make it virtually impossible to mass import workers.

  129. Mark from Melbourne

    It was kinda cute the first time, Steve. Kinda.

  130. johanna

    telling us about that time you were on the back of a Harley for the one thousandth time

    No hysteria or hyperbole here, then.

    What a nutter. Is she SRR?

  131. Steve trickler

    She got nuked, Mark.

  132. Infidel Tiger

    The Y60 diesel Patrols were/are great cars.

    My mum had one that did well over 500,000km’s before we sold it. The front seat wore out before anything major did.

    I still see it driving around occasionally – must be near 3/4 million k’s by now.

  133. John Constantine

    https://www.theland.com.au/story/6261581/new-device-to-sniff-out-livestock-pregnancies/?cs=4941

    A device is being developed to allow producers to take a breath sample from a cow that can read whether the animal is pregnant or not.

    Collecting the animal’s breath involves placing the device over the cows nose gently while she is in the crush.

    The hand-held breath sampling device draws in breath identifying biomarkers, which show pregnancy at various stages allowing farmers to detect early pregnancy in livestock.

    “Blow into this bag ma’am”.

  134. Tintarella di Luna

    This why cash is king

    A major Telstra outage has taken many of Australia’s ATMs out of service.
    DAVID SWAN
    REPORTER

    26 MINUTES AGO JULY 11, 2019

    A Telstra outage has knocked out ATMs and EFTPOS access across the country, with customers left unable to access their cash or pay for groceries.

    The outage, which began at around 3pm AEST, has affected stores Australia-wide and is ongoing.

    Woolworths said stores were processing payments manually.
    A Woolworths spokesman said: “Our stores are continuing to trade as our teams are still able to process payments manually at this time. We’re working closely with Telstra to rectify the network issue as quickly as possible.”

    The Australian understands the outage is due to a cut cable in Telstra’s fibre infrastructure in Sydney.

    Telstra said in a statement it was working on a fix. It has suffered a spate of outages in recent years.

    “We’re currently looking into an issue affecting services including EFTPOS and access to ATMs. We’re sorry if this impacts you. We’ll keep you updated as we know more,” Telstra’s statement said.

    Commonwealth Bank confirmed in a statement it has also been affected.

    “We are impacted by an issue with one of our telco providers. It’s affecting some of our services. CommBank app and NetBank are up,” a bank spokesman said.

    “There are issues with the following services: CBA ATMs, CBA EFTPOS terminals, some in branch services as well as issues logging onto CommSec.

    “We are experiencing higher than normal calls into our call centre.

    “There is no need to call us if you are experiencing problems with these services.

    “The cause of the problem is under urgent investigation. We are working to have full services restored as a matter of priority.”

  135. Tom

    [Nissan Patrol’s] lack of a diesel in the models since 2016 has really gutted their sales.

    Corporate suicide if you’re trying to sell cars in Australia. The only people who will buy a pissant petrol version are suburban wymmynses trying to protect themselves from other drivers during the morning school run.

    Almost everyone in the bush — 30-40% of the market in unit sales, I’m guessing — are now buying a Landcruiser diesel instead.

    (Disclosure: I used to own a short-wheel-base Patrol — one of the best 4WDs on the market. It was also ultra-stable at high speed on corrugations — for example, in the bumfuck NT outback, Kakadu, etc.)

    None of those tendencies can be applied to you, can they Johanna?

    Bugger off, Struth. Jo’s a ripper (who, coincidentally, used to hang around with musos and knows about all the tricks they used to get chickybabes into bed).

  136. johanna

    The British Foreign Office has form on not liking Republican Presidents:

    The corridors of the British Foreign Office at Whitehall have been buzzing with a less-than-flattering assessment of the American president.

    The ambassador to Washington has sent a series of reports, which paint the president as unintelligent, impetuous and prone to losing his temper.

    Elected, the ambassador sniffs, only because of his ability to communicate a simplistic world view to middle America via their television sets.

    “We have self-evidently a president — how shall I put it? — whom it is difficult to engage in a serious discussion on any subject of contemporary politics,” the ambassador concludes.

    The ambassador was Sir Oliver Wright, his dispatch was about president Ronald Reagan in October 1982.

    Happily for Sir Oliver’s career and the fruitful relationship that developed between Mr Reagan and British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, his confidential report remained under wraps for decades.

    Sir Oliver was, like his latest successor, a snob who understood nothing about the US or its politics, and didn’t care to find out.

    Don’t forget, this is the top posting for UK diplomats. They are supposed to be the best of the best. No wonder they lost the Empire.

    From what I know about DFAT, ours are not much better. A more entitled bunch of brats desperate to live in a des res with servants would be hard to find. As I have mentioned before, they treat the cafeteria staff in just that way – rude and dismissive. Sure, they were good at passing university exams (like their UK counterparts) and climbing the greasy pole, but as someone pointed out, nothing in the late unlamented Ambassador’s comments could not be gained from watching MSNBC or CNN. Which he probably did.

  137. Top Ender

    Apparently “social anxiety” can keep you at home for the day, drinking, in your PJ’s.

    But now in a Hobart cafe these problem people have found hope.

  138. Pete of Perth

    Re Freo. Just parked opposite the Maritime Museum $20 till midnight.

  139. “Blow into this bag ma’am”.

    Standard joke amongst cops: “Blow this ma’am”

  140. Mark from Melbourne

    She got nuked, Mark.

    Really? For why? The vid you linked to appears to be her only offering, so I assume that the rest were junked. Can’t surely have been because of animal videos (albeit with some average commentary!).

  141. bespoke

    struth
    #3102385, posted on July 11, 2019 at 10:49 am
    This criticism is fine and makes a point.
    It is free of female victimhood and zero female responsibilities.

    You need glasses or are fishing for a hug from None?

  142. Steve trickler

    Mark from Melbourne
    #3102682, posted on July 11, 2019 at 5:41 pm
    She got nuked, Mark.

    Really? For why? The vid you linked to appears to be her only offering, so I assume that the rest were junked. Can’t surely have been because of animal videos (albeit with some average commentary!).

    Goolag have nuked her, Mark.

  143. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Good lord. People are quoting third-hand sources as evidence and still drinking the kool-aid about evil care bears?

    Give it a rest.

    Those twitter posts are shocking, but the responses…”Epstein was opening a gate for demons…”, bloody hell, there is no need for the invocation of demons when you’ve got an old convicted felon secretly recording underage girls. Humans can be evil too. Enough of this insane, bible belt crap – it is actually sinful behaviour for Christians to be rambling on about this; it is the deification of the fallen and failing to glorify God.

    As bad as Epstein’s behaviour may be, there is a tendency for the unhinged Freepers to declare everyone not tight with them as “demonic” and start some epic rant about how they’re Sam Bloody Winchester.

    But please stop with the Care Bear bashing – it is simply low IQ fantasising. The Care Bears have their own country and have not taken over the world yet. What’s stopping them? The fact that it’s a bullshit theory or some proud low IQ idiot troll like Owen ben – Jamin?

  144. hzhousewife

    Fruit juice is another example of how Big Food has contributed towards increasing cardiovascular disease, cancer, obesity, type 2 diabetes, systemic inflammation and fatty liver.

    School holidays here.
    Should see the queues at the Boost Juice bar in town ! I bet some poeple have never eaten a whole fruit since they were at primary school.

  145. struth

    None of those tendencies can be applied to you, can they Johanna?

    Bugger off, Struth. Jo’s a ripper (who, coincidentally, used to hang around with musos and knows about all the tricks they used to get chickybabes into bed).

    What tricks?

    Play a bloody instrument poor or well.
    As long as you were on stage, you were fighting them off.
    No tricks required.
    Just youth and stamina.

    And by the way, one of Johanna’s main comment/arguing methods involves condescension.
    It was a bit pot/kettle of her that comment, so it was worth pointing it out as she breezed in commenting on others.
    I have nothing against her either, that I can remember, anyway.

  146. johanna

    The UN is (with full support from the gummint) visiting Australia to investigate human rights abuses in prisons.

    Yup, compared to the worst prisons in places like Syria or Venezuela or even Thailand or Indonesia, we need to offer up our bottoms for a flogging because human rights.

    They remind me of some of our (regrettably) female commenters here, who wax furious at relatively harmless things while studiously ignoring the big picture.

  147. johanna

    I suspect that you missed Tom’s irony there, struth. 🙂

  148. struth

    You need glasses or are fishing for a hug from None?

    I’m just being objective.

    I don’t think what Dr BG is doing is that great either.
    Sort of boring.
    However, I just pulled the women up when they started on the women are victims nonsense, as everyone is an adult in this narrative/story/fairy tale/truth of the Doc’s including the women.
    Other than that, they make some good points.
    I don’t pick sides.
    I’m not looking for friends or enemies.
    I come here for news, a right wing perspective, and a decent argument about matters political and social/political.
    Basically for points of view, and I love throwing my own out to be tested.
    It’s healthy.

  149. Steve trickler

    She’s an investigative journalist in her own right.



  150. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Toyota ought to release the Sequoia here in Australia.

    Families want big 4WD/SUVs. That’s exactly what the Sequoia is. I reckon the 2nd gen model looks good too. The new Patrols look like they’re pregnant or something.

  151. Infidel Tiger

    Dot is defending Epstein.

    We know the libertarian position on pedofilia: Love is love!

    Very sick people.

  152. Memoryvault

    I suspect that you missed Tom’s irony there, struth.

    Evening Johanna,
    Struth doesn’t do ironing.
    He has a maid wife to do that kind of thing.

  153. Bruce of Newcastle

    Newcastle’s stupid new light rail takes its first life.
    Which wouldn’t’ve happened if the old heavy rail still was in use, or if it’d been replaced by buses.
    Thanks, Greenies.

  154. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Fuck you IT, if you think you need to babble on about demons and portals, as well as blab on about conspiracy theories about God’s chosen people, go right ahead, fuckwit.

    I’ll stick to what the US Attorney says – and that it might be true.

  155. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Infidel Tiger
    #3102693, posted on July 11, 2019 at 6:08 pm

    You’re shilling for Sarah Hanson Young and Michael Photios now.

    What happened? Did your balls drop off?

  156. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Labor shelves plans to expel John Setka

    Chip Le Grand
    An hour ago July 11, 2019
    153 Comments

    Oppostion Leader Anthony Albanese and the ALP National Executive have shelved their plans to expel union leader John Setka from the Labor Party.

    Lawyers for the ALP told the Victorian Supreme Court that the expulsion motion, scheduled for Monday, would not go ahead until the court had ruled on the legality of move to strip Mr Setka of his Party membership.

    The undertaking was given after Justice Peter Riordan indicated he would consider an injunction against the ALP unless it agreed to delay its planned action the CFMMEU state secretary.

    A Supreme Court judge has told the Labor Party he won’t have time to determine CFMEU boss John Setka’s legal challenge against his planned expulsion before Monday’s scheduled meeting of the ALP national executive.

    Justice Peter Riordan warned lawyers for ALP national secretary Noah Carroll, Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese and other members of the Party’s national executive that it may be “inappropriate” for them to push ahead with Mr Setka’s expulsion before the court decided the legality of such an action.

    Mr Setka, the Victorian secretary of the CFMEU for the past seven years, is seeking to block an attempt to expel him from the Labor Party on the grounds that the national executive does not have the power to do so without reference to state Party rules.

    From the Oz.

  157. Infidel Tiger

    Hahaha!

    Too easy.

  158. Memoryvault

    We know the libertarian position on pedofilia: Love is love!

    Well, I might, IT. You certainly don’t.
    I’m mildly surprised you can even spell it.

  159. Frank Walker from National Tiles

  160. Tailgunner

    I wanted to steal your girl temporarily and post that vid myself, Trickler haha
    I was wondering why you weren’t onto it sooner mate.
    This Epstein thing could blow up bigly…
    That temple on his island though… Things that make you go -Hmmmmm? h/t C&C Music Factory.
    And IT who was first to post it here.
    Did someone say it’s been blown up?! WTF?
    Crazy times!

  161. Steve trickler

    The tail number on his aircraft……State Department, ID? FFS!

    He’s in protective custody.

  162. bespoke

    BS! Struth, it was dipping in it. But enjoy the hug.

  163. johanna

    Globule warmening hypocrite of the week: Barbra Streisand flew her dogs 10,000 miles to hear her sing:

    Barbra Streisand, who regularly rings alarm bells about the looming dangers of global warming in the Trump-era, reportedly flew her dogs around the world to watch her sing at London’s British Summer Time concert.

    Per Page Six:

    She took her three Coton de Tuléar pooches — Miss Scarlet, Miss Violet and Fanny — on a 10,000-mile roundtrip flight to watch her perform at London’s British Summer Time concert on Sunday.

    “There was no expense spared for her three beloved pets in the backstage area,” The Sun reported. “They had free roam of her dressing room and a dedicated member of staff to push them in the buggy or walk them round at their free will.”

    and

    Last week, Streisand declared that all climate change deniers need to be voted out of office.

    “Last week it was 114 in Paris and Guadalajara was buried in 3 feet of ice from a hailstorm. Climate change is here now and it is time for voters to remove the climate deniers from office. Starting with Trump,” the Meet the Fockers star tweeted earlier this month.

    Last week it was 114 in Paris and Guadalajara was buried in 3 feet of ice from a hailstorm. Climate change is here now and it is time for voters to remove the climate deniers from office. Starting with Trump. https://t.co/whdlN0RQrk

    — Barbra Streisand (@BarbraStreisand) July 1, 2019

    BTW, I never understood why she was rated as such a top of the tops singer. She is OK, but is no Karen Carpenter, or Annie Lennox, or Ella Fitzgerald, or … the list goes on.

    One of life’s mysteries.

  164. Spider

    Do you reckon if the AFP had only raided journalists from The Australian that the ABC would be still running this free press story every day?

  165. thefrollickingmole

    Did someone say it’s been blown up?! WTF?

    Shot itself twice in the back of the head before being choked to death in a tragic suicide/mugging gone wrong/exercise accident…

    Arkansided itself.

  166. areff

    Hey, JC, thanks for that hoot of a Mother Jones story.

  167. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Famous Actor Regrets How He Raised His Baby Boomer Kids

    The speaker is Steve Allen, actor, comic, writer, musician, creator of The Tonight Show and so much more. The dialogue with him was recorded in 1989. He was a prolific talent on radio, TV, composed thousands of songs, acted in movies, wrote books, was a well-known science skeptic, and the all-around good guy. He is a cofounder of the Tonight Show where he had as guests many of the most famous folks of his time including Elvis Presley and Jerry Lewis. His second marriage was to Jayne Meadows. He died in 2000 after being bumped by another car which broke three of his ribs and caused internal bleeding at 78 years old. I was fortunate to have interviewed him for my TV series on the 1960s. He knew the depression era and the 1950s and was uniquely articulate in presenting his point of view. Search his name on my YouTube channel to find other clips from his interview.

  168. candy

    However, I just pulled the women up when they started on the women are victims nonsense, as everyone is an adult in this narrative/story/fairy tale/truth of the Doc’s including the women.

    Well Struth is right in adults are in the narrative though there is a child involved apparently and the peoples are poor. I suppose poor people aren’t victims but more likely to hook on to any escape from poverty scenario.
    It would be easier to be a wealthy person able to choose then a poor mother with few options except trying to sexually “hook” a wealthy fish.
    A 23 year old pretty young woman is simply not sexually interested in a man three times her age. Same in reverse.

  169. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    A 23 year old pretty young woman is simply not sexually interested in a man three times her age.

    HAHAHA

    Well trolled.

    Same in reverse.

    Good god, you’re a genius.

    The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

  170. rickw

    Telstra outage, Huawei testing their embedded “features”?

  171. chrisl

    Two daughters currently visiting Los Angeles. What could possibly go wrong? Hmmmm
    1 There could be an earthquake
    2 They might be engulfed by marijuana smoke
    3 They could meet Dr BG on his way back from Cuba

  172. Geriatric Mayfly

    (Disclosure: I used to own a short-wheel-base Patrol — one of the best 4WDs on the market. It was also ultra-stable at high speed on corrugations — for example, in the bumfuck NT outback, Kakadu, etc.)

    Still got my two door Maverick Tom, after a bazillion clicks on the clock. Only yesterday, picked it up from the teary mechanic after its service. “There’s never anything wrong with it,’ he says , looking at his bottom line through welling eyes. It has had several baptisms on the Canning Stock route and across the Simpson. Fishing tracks in Tasmania leave both of the above in the shade.

  173. Gilas

    Ahhh… the Open Thread…

    Trolls being indulged by those who should know better..
    Petty bickering between commenters who are better than that..
    Moralising bores who keep on, keeping on..

    ..and some interesting travelblogging triggering most of it.

    Great stuff!

  174. Notafan

    Lol

    One thousand times.

    Perhaps I should have said a gazillion.

  175. johanna

    chrisl, they should be more worried about getting typhoid fever or being bitten by rats in the Third World city formerly known as LA.

  176. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    A gruber (n.) is someone who grubes (v.i.) – they tell people, who they have lied to, how stupid they were to have believed the lie they were told.
    — Steve Kates

  177. Notafan

    Gilasgrigrae

    Who only appears to bag others

    What a contributor.

  178. bespoke

    Petty bickering between commenters who are better than that..

    Not me, 😎

  179. Steve Tickler:
    Is there a reason they shut the channel down?
    That seems a bit bizarre…

  180. Black Ball

    How can it be that New Zealand’s win last night was considered one of the great upsets of all time? They made the semi finals on merit, they made the final last tournament. A miracle upset would be the Wallabies reclaiming the Bledisloe Cup.

  181. bespoke

    Top parody up thread Nota, and I’m not saying that to take a shot at someone else.

  182. John Constantine

    Nowtolove has photos of these well known lovebirds on the riviera beach.

    https://www.nowtolove.com.au/health/body/rupert-murdoch-jerry-hall-beach-49876

    The man is a machine.

    [ this is the way things work, i didn’t make the world, just live in it.]

  183. Cassie of Sydney

    “A 23 year old pretty young woman is simply not sexually interested in a man three times her age. “

    Maybe not sexually….but she can definitely be “financially” interested in a man three times her age.

  184. Gilas

    Notafan
    #3102723, posted on July 11, 2019 at 6:45 pm
    Gilasgrigrae
    Who only appears to bag others
    What a contributor.

    My contributions are short, mostly useful, sometimes enetrtaining and to the point, just like yours aren’t, you overwhelmingly mind-numbing moralising bore.
    Go and do something useful for a change.

  185. Notafan

    Such a griglike comment from another someone about whose opinion I care not a jot

  186. John Constantine

    Mrball, the media have a self-imposed ban on discussing flaws in the Indian cricket team strategy, as the Indian cricket board of control does vendetta with the full weight of a billion strong cricket-on-tele audience behind it.

    Because the language to discuss Indian cricketing flaws does not exist, whenever they are revealed it is shocking to the fans and the media reflect this.

    Comrades.

  187. Notafan

    Thank you bespoke.

    I don’t think the subject was very entertained, oh well.

  188. IT:

    The Y60 diesel Patrols were/are great cars.

    Mines coming up to 250k, and still drives well. But I’m waiting for something to stuff up – auto transmission or engine, and I’ll scrap it.

  189. Steve trickler

    Good fun.

    I remember this clip before it made a dent on the Net.

    Repeat.



  190. Spider

    Love the way that the ABC put a positive spin on a bunch of hippy climate change activists standing in intersections holding up traffic in Brisbane by linking to a new report on the Great Barrier Reef and interviewing some millennial in his car who thought it was wonderful that people’s eyes were being opened.

    I bet if they surveyed all the folk stuck on the freeway they would have a different opinion.

  191. bespoke

    “the hug”, Struth if your lucky it will be like last time. Nome blowing smoke up your butt and agreeing how women are crazy and should not be in Parliament.

  192. Roberto

    Johanna
    #3102673, posted on July 11, 2019 at 5:23 pm

    Don’t forget, this is the top posting for UK diplomats.

    I thought traditionally the top British ambassadorial posting was to France.

  193. Muddy

    Spider
    #3102742, posted on July 11, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    Spider, please replace ‘activists’ in your first sentence, with your choice of the following:
    insurgents – vandals – economic arsonists.

    Much obliged.

  194. cohenite

    Nowtolove has photos of these well known lovebirds on the riviera beach.

    https://www.nowtolove.com.au/health/body/rupert-murdoch-jerry-hall-beach-49876

    The man is a machine.

    Murdoch is a man whose guts have never known a sit-up or crunch; or whose bank account ever known an over drawn fee. Guess which is most important to the ladies.

    Of course we do have a type of guy who goes with the old sheilas. I wonder what the attraction is there; certainly as with Murdoch not the dangly bits.

    So, what do we make of that: love makes the world go round or the best aphrodisiac is a buck.

  195. Atoms for Peace

    B ark ,straya style. Shop in area recently closed and new tenants will be yet another hair salon. If that closes, we’ll get another cafe. And, I saw my first mullet in the wild today. Thought they were in the trash with other 70s fashion dross.

  196. Black Ball

    John Constantine, your contribution makes sense. Will there be an Andreas Escobar moment?

  197. Spider

    Muddy

    If they can block the road to the ABC studios I’d be much obliged.

  198. Roger

    Apparently Ken Wyatt’s initiative re constitutional recognition for indigenous folk was not discussed in the party room or the cabinet.

    Which means he apparently went ahead with only Morrison’s approval, a rash decision given the legitimate concerns of those Liberal parliamentarians publicly pushing back within 24 hours of Wyatt’s announcement – including Kevin Andrews – and the historical record of constitutional referenda failures.

    Morrison, in what seems to be characteristic behaviour, has today remained silent…with finger in the air?

  199. John Constantine

    The unexpected loss left a largely Indian-dominated crowd at Old Trafford disappointed, while a billion fans back home tried to come to terms with the heart-breaking end of the team’s bid for a third World Cup crown.

    Indian cricket fans are known for angry outbursts after crushing defeats, but Kohli said losing is part and parcel of sport and should not trigger an extreme reaction from either supporters or players.

    https://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/CricketWorldCup2019/kohli-says-indian-fans-should-be-measured-after-world-cup-exit-20190711

    Kholi coping with this pressure is like a man methodically clearing a minefield–not the job for me but someone has to do it.

    [ plus the Indians don’t burn down the umpires houses after a loss]

    Imran Khan has the worst cricket fan relations job of all.

  200. Spider

    Not forgetting that the protesters in Brisbane handed out vegan biscuits to aggrieved motorists.

  201. Spider

    Not forgetting that the protesters in Brisbane handed out vegan biscuits to aggrieved motorists.

    No doubt the biscuits didn’t include peanuts or gluten as they’d be intolerant.

  202. John Constantine

    Yep, i had forgotton about this poor bloke.

    Andrés Escobar Saldarriaga (Spanish pronunciation: [anˈðɾes eskoˈβaɾ salðari’aga]; 13 March 1967 – 2 July 1994) was a Colombian footballer who played as a defender. He played for Atlético Nacional, BSC Young Boys, and the Colombia national team.[1] Nicknamed The Gentleman, he was known for his clean style of play and calmness on the pitch.[citation needed]

    Escobar was murdered in the aftermath of the 1994 FIFA World Cup, reportedly as retaliation for having scored an own goal which contributed to the team’s elimination from the tournament.[2] His murder tarnished the image of the country internationally.[3] Escobar himself had worked to promote a more positive image of Colombia, earning acclaim in the country.[4] In 2013, then-coach Francisco Maturana denied that Escobar’s murder had any connection to football or the World Cup, but rather was due to his being “in the wrong place at the wrong time” at a violent time in Colombia’s history.[5]

    Lot worse things than yelling out:

    “Bald Headed Flog”.

  203. Mindfree

    Sky news has really sunk to lows

    They have now that dickhead Hinch with his own program telling us his take on todays poloitics – really riveting stuff – NOT

  204. Dr Fred Lenin

    Saw two vic cops in shopping centre ,man was 8 foot 3 ,about 30 ,well built ,female partner was 16 years old 4foot2 and about 30 kg and in danger from strong winds , she would be a great back stop in a stoush with a gang of afrohoods ,she would probably pull the shooter if the afrohoods didnt steal it off her . If she shot one Morro would be commanded to appear before the u,n, racial justice comissars ,and he would go too.

  205. Mark A

    bespoke
    #3102724, posted on July 11, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    Petty bickering between commenters who are better than that..

    Not me, 😎

    this saying
    “You are better than that”

    is one of the stupidest..
    If one were better than that, then one wouldn’t have done it, whatever that was.

  206. Roger

    Not forgetting that the protesters in Brisbane …

    Not one of whom was arrested.

  207. MatrixTransform

    Absolutely freezing with some Flannerys

    cold as a penguin’s pee pee

  208. johanna

    Steve Trickler, here is US Attorney General Barr (a good Scottish name) piping in a conference of US Attorneys.

    Note the caption says it is ‘Scotland Forever.’ I suppose that recognising ‘Scotland the Brave’ is way beyond the ken of the 20 something bright sparks who inhabit the MSM.

    Barr looks almost exactly like a guy I know in this region who is a devoted piper. Another Scot. Maybe you need the jowls.

    Anyway, he seems to have a lot more steel than his predecessor, and has so far not put a foot wrong while telling the House Dems to put it where the sun don’t shine.

    Let’s face it, anyone who plays the bagpipes has a high pain tolerance.

  209. Bruce of Newcastle

    And, I saw my first mullet in the wild today.

    I saw a mullet flying overhead while I was out riding treadly at lunchtime.
    The osprey looked happy!

    (Not sure if it was a mullet or something else, but it had a rounded head and a bifurcated tail. Maybe 20 cm in size.)

  210. Oh come on

    Some of Beto’s poetry written in 1988:

    I need a butt-shine

    Right now

    Your are holy,

    Oh, sacred cow

    I thirst for you,

    Provide Milk

    Buff my balls,

    Love the Cow,

    Good fortune for those that do.

    Love me, breathe my feet,

    The Cow has risen.

    Wax my ass,

    Scrub my balls

    The Cow has risen,

    Provide Milk.

    Oh, Milky winder, sing for us once more

    Live your life, everlusting joy.

    Thrust your hooves up my analytic passage,

    Enjoy my fruits

    Provider of Cheese and other wonderful dairy products,

    We will cleanse your inner intestines.

    We will bathe in your Pungent Odor

    Gather cotton.

    Count my eyes,

    Smell my skin,

    Love the Scarecrow and the Milkman.

    I live only for eternity,

    Thirst for the undrinkable.

    Hold the heat,

    Praise the dough boy at the pizza shop.

    Love the Oxen dung!

    Say what now? Okay, it’s tortured teen poetry, but still…that’s pretty freaky shit. Wouldn’t look out of place in a school shooter’s manifesto.

    (Link via Insty)

  211. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    cold as a penguin’s pee pee

    Cold as the hairs on a polar bear’s bum.

  212. Spider

    Roger
    Not forgetting that the protesters in Brisbane …

    Not one of whom was arrested.

    How many minutes do you think it would take if you or I decided to sit an intersection in the city before being arrested?

  213. C.L.

    Beto is one weird, weird dude.

    The most ‘mainstream’ contender is Biden … and he’s a flasher and groper … and the patriarch of a family where the sons smoke crack and root their deceased brothers’ wives.

    He’s the straight shooter of the bunch.

  214. Roger

    I bet if they surveyed all the folk stuck on the freeway they would have a different opinion.

    An ABC radio vox pop in Brisbane’s CBD today on the prospect of indigenous constitutional recognition ran 3-1 in favour.

  215. Oh come on

    Some of Beto’s poetry written in 1988:

    I need a butt-shine

    Right now

    Your are holy,

    Oh, sacred cow

    I thirst for you,

    Provide Milk

    Buff my balls,

    Love the Cow,

    Good fortune for those that do.

    Love me, breathe my feet,

    The Cow has risen.

    Wax my ass,

    Scrub my balls

    The Cow has risen,

    Provide Milk.

    Oh, Milky winder, sing for us once more

    Live your life, everlusting joy.

    Thrust your hooves up my analytic passage,

    Enjoy my fruits

    Provider of Cheese and other wonderful dairy products,

    We will cleanse your inner intestines.

    We will bathe in your Pungent Odor

    Gather cotton.

    Count my eyes,

    Smell my skin,

    Love the Scarecrow and the Milkman.

    I live only for eternity,

    Thirst for the undrinkable.

    Hold the heat,

    Praise the dough boy at the pizza shop.

    Love the Oxen dung!

    Say what now? Okay, it’s tortured teen poetry, but still…that’s pretty freaky shit. Wouldn’t look out of place in a school shoo ter’s Mani festo.

    (Link via Insty)

  216. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    AUS 10/2 at 4.2 overs.

    Bye bye World Cup.

  217. Oh come on

    Damn, can’t get teen Beto’s freaky as hell poetry through the spaminator. So here’s a link to it in its glory. It’s about a milky cow, and here’s a snippet:

    Thrust your hooves up my analytic passage,

    Enjoy my fruits

    Um ok.

  218. John Constantine

    The second ballot issue, called the Arkansas Marijuana Expungement Amendment, or AMEA, will allow persons with marijuana convictions involving marijuana paraphernalia or less than sixteen (16) ounces of marijuana to petition a court for release from incarceration, reduction of sentence, expungement of the conviction and/or restoration of rights. The amendment would authorize the creation of a dedicated court for this purpose.

    https://talkbusiness.net/2019/07/group-to-propose-ballot-issue-for-recreational-pot-expunge-low-level-marijuana-related-offenses/

    With a thousand Americans being killed in the opioid chemical war on proles every week, expunging the criminal records of small time pot holders and getting the jail system unclogged is an idea whose time has come.

    In Australia, we saw the dumping of excess chicom peoples liberation army slave labour solar panels here through our corruptocracy, after Trump moved to cut the solar panel rort in the states.

    Where do you think the excess fentanyl will be dumped if Trump manages to cut its import Stateside?.

  219. bespoke

    If one were better than that, then one wouldn’t have done it, whatever that was.

    Took me some time Mark but I got it, I think.

  220. Top Ender

    Why I’m sick of Pride
    Brendan O’Neill The Spectator 6 July 2019

    Anyone else sick of the Pride flag? It’s everywhere. It flutters from virtually every building in central London. Town halls across the country are emblazoned with it. Every bank, corporation, supermarket and celebrity Twitter account has had a rainbow makeover. There are Pride-themed sandwiches, beer bottles, cakes. Jon Snow has even worn Pride-coloured socks. You could be forgiven for thinking we’ve been conquered by a foreign army that has proceeded to stick its flag in every nook, cranny and orifice of the nation.

    It’s Pride Month, of course. And the reason it’s a whole month is because we are at the fiftieth anniversary of the New York Stonewall Riots of 1969, when gays, lesbians, drag queens and others fought back against cops who kept barging into gay bars and harassing the clientele. The thing is, that’s a great thing to celebrate. The Stonewall uprising was a very positive movement. It gave rise to struggles for gay liberation and equality. The gains made by gay-rights warriors over the past five decades have been amazing and important.

    But the melting of that great liberatory moment into today’s bland and virtually mandatory forced Pride shenanigans is depressing. It tells a broader story about the demise of radical politics. The riotous counterculturalists of the Sixties and Seventies demanded freedom. They didn’t give a damn what the ‘moral majority’ thought of them — they just wanted the moral majority to leave them alone.
    Fast forward to 2019, and that historic human instinct to be left alone in liberty has been replaced by a needy and therapeutic politics of recognition. Now gay-rights activists don’t demand autonomy — they want validation. Everyone has to wave their flag and celebrate their lifestyle and embrace the strange new idea that trans women are literally women, and if you don’t it’s off to the metaphorical gulag with you.
    It’s no longer enough to leave homosexuals alone to live however they choose and to inflict on them no persecution or discrimination or any ill-will whatsoever on the basis of their sexuality, which is absolutely the right thing for a civilised liberal society to do. No, now you have to validate their identity and cheer their life choices. You must doff your cap to that omnipresent bloody rainbow. Today it isn’t homosexuals who are persecuted; it’s their critics, whether it’s Ann Widdecombe or Tim Farron, with their well-known aversion to gay romping, or those Muslim parents in Birmingham who don’t think six-year-old Muhammad needs to know that some men sleep with men.

    The new moral majority is pro-gay rather than anti-gay. It consists of the political class, the capitalist class, the media class and the celebrity class. Its flag is the Pride flag. Its branding and messaging are inescapable. If you’re a truly virtuous person, you’ll even wear the new moral majority’s political paraphernalia, in the form of a Pride badge, a Pride t-shirt, or Pride socks on the actual TV news (Mr Snow). Doing so is a way of letting everyone know you’re a good person. You’re on the right side of virtue and the right side of history. You are an insider.

    But there are many reasons why it might be a good idea to dissent from the orgy of Pride conformism and to refuse to bow and scrape before the rainbow flag. That flag sums up everything that is wrong with our era. Its message is that you should be proud of yourself simply for what you are — for having been ‘born this way’, as Lady Gaga puts it — rather than for what you have achieved.

    As a symbol, it’s a celebration of the self, of an accident of birth, of something as mundane as who one sleeps with. It’s an invitation to narcissism and, as such, it further corrodes the social solidarity and sense of community so many of us long for today. Pride, the institution, is anti-social.

    Contrast the chattering class’s reaction to the Pride flag with their reaction to the St George’s flag. Wave that latter flag from your home and they’ll think you’re a racist. Bring it to work and flap it out the window and someone would probably call the police. Get it tattooed on your forearm and the middle-class members of the new moral majority will make an instant judgement about you: ill-educated, hates blacks, loves going mental at the football, probably beats his wife, eats fry-ups too often.

    But wave the Pride flag and they’ll love you. That’s because pride in oneself is the only pride that is allowed in our identitarian era. National pride is tantamount to a crime, pride in one’s culture or history is suspect.
    But pride in one’s own identity? Here, have a newspaper column to tell us more!

    It’s so dispiriting. Personal identity is the only game in town. National identity is a huge no no. And yet there are huge numbers of people out there, who we rarely hear from, who feel a strong attachment to the national British or English identity and who even have pangs of national pride. And it isn’t because they’re racist — it’s because they want to feel part of something bigger than themselves. This urge to look beyond oneself to the possibility of national togetherness and solidarity is surely more positive than the new cult of identity politics and its invitation to constant self-gazing and self-celebration.

    Gay people should be as free and equal as straight people. And today they are. That’s wonderful. But the fact you are gay is the least interesting thing about you. Tell me something else.

  221. Oh come on

    Some of Beto’s poetry written in 1988:

    I need a butt-shine

    Right now

    Your are holy,

    Oh, sacred cow

    I thirst for you,

    Provide Milk

    Buff my balls,

    Love the Cow,

    Good fortune for those that do.

    Love me, breathe my feet,

    The Cow has risen.

    Wax my ass,

    Scrub my balls

    The Cow has risen,

    Provide Milk.

    Oh, Milky winder, sing for us once more

    Live your life, everlusting joy.

    Thr ust your ho oves up my ana lytic pas sage,

    Enjoy my fruits

    Provider of Cheese and other wonderful dairy products,

    We will cleanse your inner intestines.

    We will bathe in your Pungent Odor

    Gather cotton.

    Count my eyes,

    Smell my skin,

    Love the Scarecrow and the Milkman.

    I live only for eternity,

    Thirst for the undrinkable.

    Hold the heat,

    Praise the dough boy at the pizza shop.

    Love the Oxen dung!

    Say what now? Okay, it’s tortured teen poetry, but still…that’s pretty freaky shit. Wouldn’t look out of place in a school shoo ter’s mani festo.

    (Link via Insty)

  222. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    With a thousand Americans being killed in the opioid chemical war on proles every week, expunging the criminal records of small time pot holders and getting the jail system unclogged is an idea whose time has come.

    Great stuff.

    Trump isn’t perfect but for a Republican populist, America is heading the right way from a libertarian perspective.

  223. egg_

    Labor shelves plans to expel John Setka

    LMFAO.
    A Setkaback to their Labya wymminses.
    That Wong Chap will be most upset.

  224. C.L.

    WTF?
    NRL officially endorses Ayers Rock Statement.

    Mark Latham responds in various posts.

    https://twitter.com/RealMarkLatham

  225. MatrixTransform

    Cold as a witches tit (hi Nong)

  226. Eyrie

    “Not forgetting that the protesters in Brisbane handed out vegan biscuits to aggrieved motorists.

    No doubt the biscuits didn’t include peanuts or gluten as they’d be intolerant.”

    I think the delayed motorists maybe pretty intolerant anyway. Pity someone didn’t get out and knuckle a few protestors.

  227. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Cold as a witches tit (hi Nong)

    Cold as a mother in law’s kiss.

  228. Mater

    Gee, I hope the tax cuts don’t negatively impact our social ‘services’.

    For the first time, a person with a disability has won the right to have a sex therapist paid for under the National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS), but advocates say the ruling does not go far enough.

    “Her response to her achievement of sexual release (to the extent to which she is able to obtain such release) as a result of the services of a specialised sex therapist were described by the applicant in evidence which I accept as good for her mental wellbeing, her emotional wellbeing and her physical wellbeing,” the judgment reads.

  229. Oh come on

    Check out Beto’s tortured teen poetry. It is about a milky cow that buffs, waxes and shines various parts of his anatomy. It is…extremely odd, even for tortured teen poetry.

  230. Oh come on

    Slaughter torture

  231. Tekweni

    I do enjoy those clips of the huge American steam engines. They make the steam engines I fired on in South Africa look like pygmies. Being a fireman was not a career move but a way to save money to attend university. Did a full year and 2 Xmas holidays working on steam. For those who have an interest in steam engines there were 3 classes operating in Durban in the early 70’s. These were H2’s, 14R.s and S2’s. The H2’s were built about 1900 and I was fascinated that engines more than 70 years old were still operating. They were used by the Natal Government Railways and my grandfather probably rode on trains pulled by these engines when he came out from Australia to fight in the Boer war.

    Being on a steam engine is so elemental. Wind, water, steam and fire on the foot plate with the feeling of so much power being translated to the rails. I don’t have any nostalagia for the times we were pulling passenger trains with the 14R’s up hill to Pietermariztburg from Durban. That was continuous firing and feeding coal using a shovel into a hot firebox was a great way of losing weight! Still the beat of an engine going up a long grade stirs me!

  232. Mater

    Every time I quote the ABC, I get sin binned by the spaminator.
    Clearly the ABC is out of line with community expectations.

  233. Roger

    WTF? NRL officially endorses Ayers Rock Statement.

    Peter Beattie was a bad choice for chair.

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