Tuesday Forum: July 9, 2019

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  1. thefrollickingmole

    ABC links are now getting spamminated…

    I support the spamminators hate for their ABC but still think we should be able to link them.

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here you go Numbers.

    Qatar Plans to Buy Boeing Aircraft in ‘Large’ Deal, Trump Says (10 July)

    Meanwhile I’m amused at this story:

    Terrifying moment UAE spy satellite veers off course before crashing into Atlantic (11 July)

    FRIGHTENING footage captures the moment a United Arab Emirates spy satellite experienced a mission failure, after crashing into the Atlantic following its launch.

    The Vega rocket failed two minutes after launch, veering off course while carrying an Emirati military satellite. A video shows the Vega successfully launch from Guiana Space Centre in Korou, French Guiana. The rocket can later be seen veering off path as it appears to plummet downwards.

    How sad that, with the EU cosying up to the Iranians lately, such an unfortunate accident should happen to the UAE’s spy satellite at the hands of the EU’s space launch guys.

    Did I forget to mention that their old name was Airbus Safran Launchers before they were renamed ArianeGroup?

  3. johanna

    Yet another Aboriginal organisation ripped off by one of its own:

    A former chair of the Aboriginal Health Council of South Australia (AHCSA) has been spared jail over a $77,000 travel expenses rort.

    Yvonne Debra Buza, 62, was found guilty of 47 counts of deception.

    The Adelaide Magistrates Court heard she repeatedly claimed travel allowances she was not entitled to — totalling $77,415 — between 2010 and 2014, falsely claiming she had to travel regularly from the far north of South Australia to Adelaide.

    In sentencing the former volunteer, Magistrate David McLeod said he had regard to Buza’s extensive history of helping the community.

    However, he said it was serious, systematic offending.

    “You exploited your senior and respected position. The offending was a large-scale systematic breach of trust,” Magistrate McLeod said.

    The court also took into account a further $187,634 in fraud, but she was not charged or sentenced in relation to those matters.

    Aboriginal organisations must be among the most often ripped off on the planet. It happens again and again, everyone is very ‘sorry’, but nothing changes.

    I suppose that when you have rivers of gold from taxpayers and mining companies without having to work for it, who cares?

  4. Cardimona:
    Excellent letters – well done.
    Factual without being too heavy on the facts.

  5. Robber Baron

    Thank you for the motoring advice Cat contributors.

  6. DrBeauGan

    Just got back from dinner, on my own, from a Chinese restaurant in local Chinatown.

    Started badly with fried wontons. The idea of putting food inside the skins hasn’t yet occurred to Cubans. So just fried skins with a watery approximation to sweet and sour sauce. Then a soup, fish, shrimps and beansprouts, which was excellent. Then fish and chips, also very good. Plus three glasses of red house wine, which was pretty good compared with what you get in the shops.

    The only Chinese thing was the decor, featuring an amida Buddha and some red thingies. But it was good, well cooked, hot and cheap. But wtf.

    I got damp on the way back as a result of the rain suddenly coming on. Now I’m home and smoking a cigar. The little boy next door shouts “Hi” at me and I shout it back. Then he shouts “Byeeee” at me and I shout “Bye-bye” back. I guess he’s about four. He likes wearing a Spider-Man suit

    I couldn’t report from the restaurant because it was in a dead zone.

  7. stackja

    How will MSM handle Tropical Storm Barry? Reminder of a past nicknamed Barry?

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hehe, the Israelis aren’t idiots. El Al wiki:

    As of June 2019, El Al has an all-Boeing fleet composed of the following aircraft

    No accidentally crashable Airbus aircraft for El Al…

  9. notafan

    Haven’t read the entire thread but did someone claim that ‘Hispanic’ women have different/lower sexual mores than us upright moral denizens of the anglosphere?

    What an extraordinarily broad brush to paint across the entire populations of Spain and South America.

    And based on what factual information?

  10. stackja

    Giving a certain demographic free rein with finances. What could possibly go wrong?

  11. Bruce in WA

    We’ve started our own share of Aboriginal names … that hardly anyone knows how to pronounce.

  12. Dr Faustus

    Yet another Aboriginal organisation ripped off by one of its own:
    … …
    I suppose that when you have rivers of gold from taxpayers and mining companies without having to work for it, who cares?

    Unfortunately the casual approach to OPM seems to be part of the human condition – it’s certainly not a specifically aboriginal trait.

    The thing that does appear to be lacking in aboriginal organisations is accountability, control and oversight. In a normally managed and audited organisation it would be difficult for a person to be able to systematically defraud to that extent and for that length of time. The unlamented ATSIC was a huge case study in systematic corruption that has been studiously ignored.

    Cultural difficulty in understanding whitefella accounting practices will be something to behold when Treaty opens the Gubba munni floodgates.

  13. notafan

    I assume the palawa don’t have an alphabet of their own and have culturally appropriated the western one.

    The best thing about Tasmanian aborigines is the ongoing feud, I wonder how that is going

    They don’t have a drop of Aboriginal blood in their veins,” said Michael Mansell, legal adviser to the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre, which represents 6,000 Palawa

  14. MatrixTransform

    vag vag vag vag vag.
    did I mention Im a fiminist?
    vag vag
    men are bastards
    vag vag vag vag
    thats how logical am.
    see because
    vag vag vag

    Im balanced I tells ya

    VAG == fact

  15. Robber Baron

    “Aboriginal names”

    Yes Bruce, I think we all need an Abboriginal name.

    Robber Baron now becomes Robbararang Barrararonron.

    Now gimme money!

  16. Perth Trader

    The next Aust Census will be 2021. For a little while I’ve wondered what the census result would be if Aussies enmasse , filed that they were , are indigenous to Australia. The number of indigenous experts and people who identify as indigenous seems to be growing faster than the indigenous birth rate.

  17. cohenite

    It’s interesting as to which group is pushing the envelope the hardest in our enlightened times:
    The 331/3 nations
    Alphabet people
    Alarmists
    RoP

    You’d think such diverse groups would collide sooner or later. My moneys on the RoP.

  18. dover_beach

    The handling of the Epstein story by our media here is only further proof that our media cannot actually deal with US news without following the DNC-script funneled to it via the US msm :

    The only reason for the media’s flood-the-zone coverage of Epstein — 13 years late — is that they think they’ve found a Trump connection. Oh happy day. (Trump was friendly with Epstein 15 years ago — before banning him from Mar-a-Lago for life after he hit on a young girl working there.)

    The main hook is: Trump’s Labor secretary, Alex Acosta, accepted a disreputable plea deal with Epstein while serving as a U.S. attorney under President Bush. If fixating on Acosta is what it takes to keep this case from being brushed under the rug (again), then I guess you can have him.

    But just between us, Acosta’s not the real villain.

    It’s easy to forget, but Epstein’s arrest this week marks the third attempted prosecution of him for sex with underage girls.

    It’s certainly been easy for the media to forget! In The New York Times’ version of events — and that of every other news outlet — the Palm Beach police discovered Epstein was paying minor girls from West Palm Beach for sex … and then took the case straight to the FBI!

    That seems odd: Why wouldn’t police bring their case to the local prosecutor, who was overseeing the investigation and issuing subpoenas?

    Because they did.

    Unfortunately, the local prosecutor in this case was a sleazebag, activist Democrat named Barry Krischer.

    When Krischer, then Palm Beach state attorney, found out the target was Epstein, a big Democratic donor, he refused to prosecute. It was only because of Krischer’s active obstruction of the case that the Palm Beach chief of police, Michael Reiter, begged the FBI to intervene.

    Acosta may have buckled in the end, but at the time, he was a knight in shining armor rushing in after Krischer killed the case.

    Here is the Wiki entry on Epstein and the Florida charge:

    In March 2005, a woman contacted Florida’s Palm Beach Police Department and alleged that her 14-year-old stepdaughter had been taken to Epstein’s mansion by an older girl. There she was allegedly paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein.[13] She had allegedly undressed, but left the encounter wearing her underwear.[14] Police began an 11-month undercover investigation of Epstein, followed by a search of his home. The Federal Bureau of Investigation also became involved in the investigation; subsequently, the police alleged that Epstein had paid several escorts to perform sexual acts on him.[15] Interviews with five alleged victims and 17 witnesses under oath, a high school transcript and other items found in Epstein’s trash and home allegedly showed that some of the girls involved were under 18.[16] The police search of Epstein’s home found large numbers of photos of girls throughout the house, some of whom the police had interviewed in the course of their investigation.

    Notice how it says nothing at all about the Dem State Attorney refusing to press charges ignoring all the evidence presented by the Palm Beach Chief of Police. Neither will you hear any of this background by our MSM who are and remain as uninterested in this as the US MSM was back then and again in 2014 were much of this evidence was made public. Nor will you hear our MSM say that Trump barred Epstein from Mar-a-Lago once Epstein was found chatting up an underage girl.

    For this reason alone, I couldn’t give two-shits about press freedom at the moment in this country. Not until they clean their house.

  19. johanna

    Haven’t read the entire thread but did someone claim that ‘Hispanic’ women have different/lower sexual mores than us upright moral denizens of the anglosphere?

    I dunno. Did they?

    How about quoting what someone actually said instead of spraying around insults becos feelz.

  20. Roger

    “They don’t have a drop of Aboriginal blood in their veins,” said Michael Mansell, legal adviser to the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre, which represents 6,000 Palawa.

    “A lot of white people see an opportunity to defraud the system by claiming to be Aboriginal.”

    Andrew Bolt was sued for saying the same thing.

  21. DrBeauGan

    I forgot to mention that I was propositioned by a middle-aged lady who offered to help me and told me I was beautiful. She had a much younger pimp with her. I thought of showing her a picture of Maria so she could see what she was up against. But it would have been cruel, so I didn’t.

    Poor, poor people.

  22. The Barking Toad

    The best thing about Tasmanian aborigines is the ongoing feud, I wonder how that is going

    Led by the white skinned blue eyed Micky Mansell

  23. Exit Stage Right

    “They don’t have a drop of Aboriginal blood in their veins”.
    So says the blue eyed, blond haired Michael Mansell.

  24. Exit Stage Right

    Beat me to it, Toad.

  25. zyconoclast

    Woman Required to Cover Up on American Airlines Flight Says Race Was a Factor (includes pictures)

    but this from earlier this year. Another woman asked to cover up

  26. Is that Vagemite stains on the blog underwaer?

  27. The Barking Toad

    Yeah but I forgot about the blonde hair

  28. johanna

    FFS, Dr BG, is there anything else in Cuba to talk about? What does it look like, how do people live, what about music, art, culture?

    I’m starting to think that IT is right. You are really on the cruise ship SS Vomitus somewhere near Noumea.

  29. Infidel Tiger

    I’m starting to think that IT is right. You are really on the cruise ship SS Vomitus somewhere near Noumea

    I never said that.

  30. zyconoclast

    Governor DeSantis is a cuck. He could become party leader for the LNP here.

    DeSantis asks to replace Confederate general statue with one of civil rights leader

    DeSantis sent a letter to the architect of the U.S. Capitol officially requesting that the Bethune statue be substituted for the one of General Edmund Kirby Smith in National Statuary Hall, a change Florida lawmakers approved last year.

  31. candy

    Epstein sounds like a very high class “madam” bringing wealthy A1 clientele chaps and beautiful young women together and catering for different tastes, with a side-line of illegal perversions.

    I guess through history this is not a new scenario.

  32. notafan

    Johanna firing blanks again, or just a plain vanilla stupid comment because she is triggered by anything I say

    I suppose it all stems back to the Spanish Infanta.

    Trump something something

  33. 1735099

    As of June 2019, El Al has an all-Boeing fleet composed of the following aircraft

    None of them 737 Max.
    I wonder why?

  34. notafan

    What did Susan Howatch say?

    Oh yes

    The Rich are Different

    Epstein is just another man that thought money could buy him anything.

  35. DrBeauGan

    FFS, Dr BG, is there anything else in Cuba to talk about? What does it look like, how do people live, what about music, art, culture?

    Not a lot, Johanna. Lots of squalor, some nice old buildings falling apart, and that’s it. I’ve said a little of what it looks like, but lots of squalor and nice old buildings falling apart covers most of it.

    But the people are nice and friendly, although a fair fraction are on the make. Oh, and it’s warm and humid.

    How they live has been covered by me and Notafan. Basically, you don’t want the details. Really.

  36. Bruce of Newcastle

    As I said Numbers, Israelis aren’t idiots.

    However I think their pilots could probably fly Maxes safely. I suspect all El Al pilots are both ex-IDF pilots and also reserve officers.

  37. DrBeauGan

    The music is mainly men whining in Spanish, very loudly. I get it from the neighbours. I play Heitor Villa-Lobos back at them.

  38. zyconoclast

    American Psychological Association (APA)
    Society for the Psychology of Sexual Orientation and Gender Diversity

    The Task Force on Consensual Non-Monogamy promotes awareness and inclusivity about consensual non-monogamy and diverse expressions of intimate relationships. These include but are not limited to: people who practice polyamory, open relationships, swinging, relationship anarchy and other types of ethical, non-monogamous relationships.

  39. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cuba has lots of nickel and rum. Good for chemists if not mathematicians.

  40. notafan

    I have a Chilian customer , a very kind older man who sometimes speaks a little Spanish to me, I would perhaps go to Chile on his recommendation but only if I could get one of my sons to come with me.

    Costa Rica also sounds civilized, a lot of Europeans still migrate there (I met a Frenchman in the process of doing that with his wife once) and US citizens too so I have heard.

    about the only other place in south american I would consider going

  41. DrBeauGan

    I did investigate a three day trip to Cienfuegos and Trinidad. It would have cost at least $2,000 and I don’t like old buildings and two four hour taxi trips anything like that much

  42. egg_

    A critical review, but I like these cars:

    Is an Asian in a car like “a fish on a bicycle”?

  43. Roger

    What did Susan Howatch say?

    She wrote some very interesting novels.

  44. dover_beach

    types of ethical, non-monogamous relationships.

    LOL. The ‘ethical’ for these barbarians is nothing more than consent.

  45. Infidel Tiger

    Chile is very civilised.

    Fantastic helicopter rides helped make sure of that.

  46. 1735099

    I did investigate a three day trip to Cienfuegos and Trinidad. It would have cost at least $2,000 and I don’t like old buildings and two four hour taxi trips anything like that much

    Suggest you investigate a little more.
    There were two of us, and it cost us about half that.
    Costs included taxis and hostales y pensiones.

  47. johanna

    IT, you are just cranky because I thought up a better name for the cruise ship.

    Dr BG, you can’t be much of a music lover. There must be bars and restaurants with local musos playing – and they can’t all be bad.

    I admit that mariachi music and the like is not my taste, but as the Buena Vista Social Club movie demonstrated, there is a lot more than that going on.

    If I was there, hitting the music venues would be first priority. Good music, interesting people. Musos are daft, but they are also a lot of fun. Don’t ask me how I know this, or Tom might tell you. 🙂

  48. notafan

    hostales y pensiones.
    hostels and pensions.

    someone stayed in both kinds of accommodation

  49. DrBeauGan

    Also, if I took Maria, it would have cost twice as much and I’d have had to fight off her amorous advances for three days. I’m not sure I’m that tough.

    La Revolucion has not been a huge success. It appears to have replaced one gang of corrupt arseholes with another. All rather predictable.

    But Cuba does have lots of excellent cheap cigars. A definite plus in my book.

  50. DrBeauGan

    Dr BG, you can’t be much of a music lover. There must be bars and restaurants with local musos playing – and they can’t all be bad.

    Most upmarket restaurants have music. Mostly, it’s appalling. I am a music lover. That’s the problem.

  51. johanna

    A work colleague went to Chile with his wife a few years ago, and raved about the place. He is not easily pleased, BTW, quite pernickety in many ways.

    He brought back some Chilean wine and shared a bottle with us, a red, quite decent. He did say he kept the better stuff at home.

    When you look at the map, it’s hard to understand how such a long, skinny country could stay together. It reminds me of – nope, not going there – but it must be a challenge.

  52. calli

    A travelogue from Central America. Please feel free scroll by. 🙂

    The road to La Antigua Guatemala arrows across the plain, fields of sugar cane on the right, bananas on the left. Two lanes, a bit rough on the edges, dotted with giant remnant trees festooned with epiphytes. It reminds me of the highway on the flat out of Lae.

    A turn and our little bus begins to wind its way to the highlands. The road narrows. In the distance I spy a couple of conical mountains – my first ever volcanoes. A blink, and unbelievably, one of them puffs up a plume of smoke. The guide says it’s active.

    Last year it was very active indeed. The reason for the temporary bridges, the massive dieback in the trees and the acres of tumbled, undifferentiated stone becomes clear – a massive pyroclastic flow oozed out of the thing taking everything in its path, including over 300 people. Sixty mph of super-heated ash tore through the coffee gardens, villages and a town. I have been to Pompeii, and just like that, people were found huddled in their family groups unable to escape the horror.

    The old city itself is a wonder. Narrow streets, designed for horse and cart, set out in a grid. Ruins, rebuilt or left to nature, speak silently of a succession of earthquakes. Bright stucco, some peeled back to expose brickwork, niches, lintels, ironwork – all giving a distinctly Spanish feel to the place.

    Many…many police. The President of a neighbour (I think El Salvador) is visiting. We witness the iron fist of the law in the variety of hardware the police are displaying. They stand in groups on every corner.

    The old church is beautiful. A base of yellow/salmon stucco is iced with white plaster – grape vines trail and twine up the facade, columns, saints, and gables. The timpanum is different. Festooning the Lamb of God are two cacao pods. Because we all know that one marvellous thing was missing from the treasure the spies found in the Promised Land – chocolate!

    The sights and sounds of the square defy description – women with baskets of colourful goods including a wealth of textiles, beaded animals and tiny dolls, men with brushes offering a shoe shine, children holding out little bags of seed for the birds. They follow, cutting out the straggler from the herd like expert hunters, no refusal accepted. I look a scarf and ask the price – more vendors swarm around me.

    Cats, visit Guatemala. Pop it on The List.

    And like the chocolate, the coffee is good.

  53. calli

    Lol. I appear to have landed in a discussion of South America.

    Timing is everything.

  54. None

    DrBeauGan
    #3103099, posted on July 12, 2019 at 10:30 am
    I forgot to mention that I was propositioned by a middle-aged lady who offered to help me and told me I was beautiful. She had a much younger pimp with her. I thought of showing her a picture of Maria so she could see what she was up against. But it would have been cruel, so I didn’t.

    Poor, poor people.

    Beaugan has zero self awareness. This is the confession of an A grade exploiter. BG is the very type of person who creates those “poor poor people”, complete with photo of Maria for penis bragging rights. Disgusting individuals like Beaugan are no better than Castro.

  55. 1735099

    Most upmarket restaurants have music. Mostly, it’s appalling. I am a music lover. That’s the problem.

    Not my experience.
    Most bands we saw in restaurants, especially in the tourist traps in Havana, were excellent – energetic, polished, and had wide repertoires.
    Much of the music played relies on the success of the Buena Vista Social Club, the only Cuban music (although resurrected by a Yank – Ry Cooder) that most westerners have ever heard.

  56. 1735099

    someone stayed in both kinds of accommodation

    Sure did.
    What’s your problem?

  57. calli

    And I believe Trump is still President.

    🎉

  58. Bruce of Newcastle

    I like how the volcano is called “where the fire is” in the local language…
    Volcán de Fuego

  59. Infidel Tiger

    IT, you are just cranky because I thought up a better name for the cruise ship.

    I never mentioned a cruise ship.

  60. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Egg . It was better than I’ve had in restaurants, but still pretty bad.

    Not helped by slow internet and constant buffering.

    I seem to have missed out on the heights of Havana night life, but I think I will survive.

  61. DrBeauGan

    Johanna, the cruise ship gag was LL.

  62. 132andBush

    I’m not sure who’s doing the parody now.
    Drbg or none.

  63. C.L.

    Far left-wing snowflaker site, news.com, ‘reports’ a fake news ‘outrage’ using all the standard tricks.

    Welcome to Country ‘booed’ at Sydney Opera House.

    An Aboriginal “Welcome to Country” ceremony was reportedly booed by an audience member at the Sydney Opera House on Tuesday night.

    “Last night, at an Opera Australia performance of Anna Bolena, someone in the audience booed the Welcome to Country,” The Australian’s arts editor Ashleigh Wilson wrote on Twitter yesterday.

    “First I’ve heard of that happening at an arts event anywhere. Opera audiences are often vocal but usually they pick the moment a little better.”

    Users on Twitter described it as “appalling” and disrespectful. “All the closet racists are showing their true selves these days,” Mel Giancarlo wrote. “I’m keeping careful notes.”

    Ray Simon said he “always suspected the opera crowd were middle-class bogans”. Lauren Elizabeth added, “When the Oz opera performs Otello, they use brown face. So not really surprised the audience is a bunch of out-of-touch racists.”

    Others shared similar experiences. “I had a guy next to me muttering about it (negatively) at a Melbourne Symphony Orchestra concert a few months ago,” Paul Noonan wrote.

    Karen Shirley said she encountered it at a recent community event. “An intimate setting so the ‘objection’ was impossible not to hear,” she wrote. “It made me equal parts enraged + bereft and to my shame also speechless. How dare they?”

    Judith Ridge added, “Someone (repeatedly) heckled the stunning Welcome to Country at the 16 Lovers Lane concert at the State Theatre last year. They got booed down by the audience.”

    Stephen T., however, said “in honesty” he was “not that surprised”. “I think some kind of point has been passed where goodthinkful gestures have stopped carrying weight,” he wrote.

    “For me, it was when I was part of the response to the attempted bombing in Bourke St last year — before Red Cross turned out crews, it insisted on doing an Acknowledgment of Country. In the presence of a very real and frightening tragedy a ritual like that seemed so meaningless.”

    A Sydney Opera House spokeswoman said the company was “deeply saddened to hear about this incident”.

    Who, you may ask, are Anna, Mel, Ray, Lauren, Paul, Karen, Judith and Stephen T?
    Why, they’re absolutely nobody, of course.
    I use the singular nobody advisedly because they are all the same person.

  64. calli

    Speaking of cruise ships…

    Gossip has it that a fist fight broke out in one of the laundries here between San Fran and LA. The captain exercised her maritime powers and put the offender off at LA.

    I would have ordered a re-match in the Grand Lobby.

    Dryer rage is a thing…

  65. egg_

    It looks as seedy as DrBG has decribed.
    A socialist sh1thole.
    SE Asia looks great in comparison.

  66. egg_

    the cruise ship gag was LL.

    The cruise ship gags were for Grig’s sockdrawer’s benefit.

  67. egg_

    Gossip has it that a fist fight broke out in one of the laundries

    One of the wymminses was jumping bunks?

  68. DrBeauGan

    Most bands we saw in restaurants, especially in the tourist traps in Havana, were excellent – energetic, polished, and had wide repertoires.

    I guess it’s all a matter of taste, but I tended to get pianists who really liked the twiddly bits. And got wild applause. So the taste of the clientele left something to be desired. Maybe I’m picky. On the whole I prefer restaurant’s to be places you can hold a conversation. Most people who like loud music hope it will make thinking impossible.

  69. notafan

    Other than being pursued by vendors that sounds like a holiday experience I could enjoy Calli.

    Isn’t it great when people have something to sell (other than sex)

  70. johanna

    OK, aplogies.

    SS Vomitus was better than LL’s.

    Sheesh.

    As for the music, I can only conclude that the musicians in Havana nightspots have to be approved by the gummint. Somebody should teach them to play Gloria.

  71. Farmer Gez

    Keep up the titillating tourist tales Dr BG.
    I’m sitting in a Melbourne arcade while my middle aged woman does impressions of the weather, cold and mostly overcast with occasional breaks of sunshine.
    At least you are in the sun and in female favour.

  72. egg_

    I’m not sure who’s doing the parody now.

    DrBG’s yanking the strings even harder.

  73. DrBeauGan

    egg_
    #3103153, posted on July 12, 2019 at 11:47 am
    It looks as seedy as DrBG has decribed.
    A socialist sh1thole.
    SE Asia looks great in comparison.

    The only real attraction of Cuba over SE Asia is the cigars, Egg.

    I feel sorry for the people. They’ve had a sequence of corrupt arseholes since the seppos gave them independence. And since la Revolucion it’s gone backwards. With my being a target for desperate females a direct consequence.

  74. Boambee John

    Via Instapundit, seems the Green Nude Eel wasn’t really about Da ‘vironment after all. Quelle surprise!

    The Democratic Party Operatives with Bylines at the Washington Post have a glowing profile of Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC’s chief of staff, and the author of her infamous Green New Deal rollout in February, with a curious, and not at all unexpected admission. Just look for the “unexpected” below.

    On a Wednesday morning in late May, emissaries of two of the strongest political voices on climate change convened at a coffee shop a few blocks from the U.S. Capitol. Saikat Chakrabarti, chief of staff to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), was there to meet Sam Ricketts, climate director for Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D), who is running for president almost exclusively on a platform of combating global warming. A newly released plank of Inslee’s climate change agenda had caught the attention of Chakrabarti and his boss, who had tweeted that Inslee’s “climate plan is the most serious + comprehensive one to address our crisis in the 2020 field.” Pleased by the positive reception from the demanding Green New Deal wing of the climate struggle, Ricketts had set up this meeting with Chakrabarti to establish a personal connection and share approaches to climate advocacy.

    “Congrats on the rollout,” Chakrabarti told him as they sat down. “That was pretty great.”

    “Thank you again for the kudos you guys offered,” said Ricketts. “We wanted to be pace-setting for the field, and I think we’re there now. … I want to ask you for input … in addition to hearing what you guys are working on.”

    Chakrabarti had an unexpected disclosure. “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal,” he said, “is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.” Ricketts greeted this startling notion with an attentive poker face. “Do you guys think of it as a climate thing?” Chakrabarti continued. “Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.”

    As conservative national security commentator John Noonan tweets in response, “One of the central tenets of Climate Change skepticism is that the threat is exaggerated to achieve political ends that are divorced from environmental health. Here’s an outward admission that the issue is used as a stalking horse for ambitious economic restructuring.”

  75. candy

    An Aboriginal “Welcome to Country” ceremony was reportedly booed by an audience member at the Sydney Opera House on Tuesday night.

    I’m not sure that booing any ceremony on stage is a particularly pleasant thing to do, no matter how dull or tedious. It’s not really a performance like stand-up comedy or dreadfully awful singing where the audience might be inclined to boo something.

  76. old bloke

    notafan
    #3103125, posted on July 12, 2019 at 11:00 am

    Costa Rica also sounds civilized, a lot of Europeans still migrate there

    I don’t think I’d like to live in a country whose national currency is a Colon. “How many colons for that bunch of bananas” doesn’t sound right.

  77. John Constantine

    Their abc announces caravaners are dumping rubbish and septic waste at Uluru.

    You will either helicopter in to elite reserved resorts, or pull up where the roads become rewilded and look through binoculars.

    After paying to do a awareness training course and applied for travel papers.

    Comrades.

  78. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m not sure that booing any ceremony on stage is a particularly pleasant thing to do, no matter how dull or tedious.

    “Welcome to Country” should be bood. It’s made up and insulting, rubbish.

  79. Black Ball

    Candy, I don’t think Welcome to Country is a ceremony. Just acknowledgement of elders in a prepared statement. And get moolah for it.

  80. Rae

    Santiago de Cuba is nice. Better than Havana. Bit of a journey to get there, but it is worth it.

  81. Black Ball

    The ladies on Strictly Come Dancing are quite fetching.

  82. egg_

    The Green Nude Eel is not real?

    we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing

    The UN must think the same, when they jet 4,000 suits to a remote climate junket.

  83. stackja

    How many ‘traditional Aboriginal indigenous events’ are traditional?
    As I remember La Perouse had snake shows but don’t remember smoking/welcome events.
    Gough money was available for events so events were created?

  84. Acknowledging “Traditional owners”*.
    Total farce!

    This sort of shyte should have nipped in the bud when it first started.
    But sensible people remained silent.

    * The ANZ bank.

  85. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Acknowledging “Traditional owners”*.

    I’ve seen a plaque acknowledging that “It’s a privilege to be standing on Ballardong land.”

  86. Old School Conservative

    I’d have had to fight off her amorous advances for three days

    Just lie back and think of pi. It’s irrational to do otherwise.

  87. Evil reigns when good people keep their mouths shut.

    h/t Edmund Burke (I think)

  88. Old School Conservative

    Welcome to country was criticised by Pauline Hanson today. She claimed that two recent internal flights she travelled on had some form of indigenous welcome on landing.

  89. 1735099

    It’s made up and insulting, rubbish.

    And having the flag of another country – the butcher’s apron (Union Jack) – displayed on our nation’s flag is OK?

  90. DrBeauGan

    That someone had the courage to boo the welcome to country farce at the opera House is an encouraging sign. More power to them. Hope it spreads.

  91. old bloke

    stackja
    #3103176, posted on July 12, 2019 at 12:19 pm

    As I remember La Perouse had snake shows but don’t remember smoking/welcome events.

    Memories. Joe Timbery also had his boomerang shop at La Perouse.

  92. C.L.

    This is real …
    Mvzl1ms in Britain now have oversight of television scripts …
    (They kind of do here too which is why this will be hard to get through the filter):

    Ian Beal’s teenage son will turn to ISS-LAMM to find peace after leaving prison for killing his sister in Eastenders storyline designed ‘to challenge prejudices about faith’

    EastEnders bosses have been working with Mvzl1m youth workers ahead of a storyline which sees jailed Bobby Beale explore ISS_LAMM.

    Producers have said they want to show the positive impact of religion in 21st-century society, with Bobby – played by Clay Milner Russell – taking a new direction after leaving prison.

    The Mvzl1m Youth Helpline has been working with producers of the soap to offer advice on the character’s new story arc.

    EastEnders fans will see Bobby – the son of show stalwart Ian Beale begin to explore the ISS_LAMIC faith, and its positive impact on his life.

    The troubled character will be shown receiving comfort and closure with the help of his new beliefs.

    Jon Sen, executive producer on EastEnders, said: ‘We are thrilled to be working with the Mvzl1m Youth Helpline on a storyline which serves to challenge preconceptions and prejudices about the role of faith in young peoples’ lives.

    In the admiring Daily Mail.

  93. johanna

    I’ve been re-reading James Ellroy’s American Tabloid recently. It suits bedside reading because it is broken up into choppy bits.

    The last third of the book is about Cuba in the early 1960s, leading up to the Kennedy assassination.

    Ellroy is a mixture of fact and fantasy, but even if half of it is true, no wonder JFK was clipped. He and his brother managed to piss off the Mafia, right wing weirdos, a good portion of the population of Miami, the CIA and the FBI.

    Trump’s security people need to be ultra careful.

  94. C.L.

    It’s all very condescending and hilarious, really.
    Before all three Origin matches, the announcer ordered the crowd to “… be upstanding for the Welcome To Country followed by the nationa anthem …”
    There followed a supposedly Aboriginal bloke saying something or other about how Lang Park and surrounds are really his or something. Try building a condo on the land if it’s yours, old mate.

  95. notafan

    I count myself very fortunate that I have never seen a welcome to (my own) country

  96. Just lie back and think of pi.

    Or phi ( φ )

    fn = φ n / (φ + 2)

    Φ² = Φ + 1

    φ = 5 ^ .5 * .5 + .5

    5π = 6φ^2

  97. Pedro the Ignorant

    Snarling and spitting over Dr BG’s Fabulous Adventure still going on?

    Back to the shed. The chainsaw needs a service and a sharpen.

  98. egg_

    And having the flag of another country – the butcher’s apron (Union Jack) – displayed on our nation’s flag is OK?

    Send Numbnutz to the tower for treason?

  99. The Barking Toad

    Another ATO fail – like Centrelink

    Portal and Online Services outage
    Investigating – Both portals and online services for agents are experiencing severe degradation or are unavailable. We are investigating and will have more details shortly.
    Jul 12, 09:05 AEST

    Tax Agents can’t lodge and kiddies using stupid MyGov to do their own are likewise farked.

    Still off-line as of now.

  100. egg_

    I count myself very fortunate that I have never seen a welcome to (my own) country

    +1

    Do they wear koala suits?

  101. egg_

    Are there any native recipes for koala?
    We could make it for Jap tourists.

  102. Infidel Tiger

    Finally …
    Panasonic has created a fridge that drives to you when called.

    Probably the best invention of last 25 years.

    Can it climb stairs?

  103. Pedro the Ignorant

    Booing at and/or ignoring the “welcome to the country” mumbo jumbo is very disrespectful.

    As it should be.

    Given the alleged booing was at the Sydney Opera House, I am astonished the luvvie audience didn’t lynch the booer on the spot.

  104. egg_

    “Singed koala dropped from forest fire on a bed of yams lightly sprinkled with tea tree and lemon myrtle condiments.”

  105. Singed koala dropped from forest fire …

    The European variant is to nail the koala to a tree in a bushfire.

  106. notafan

    Possum suits apparently

    I was amused by Min’s reminder that Aborigines did not wear clothes, except the occasional possum skin cape

    Looking forward to Justin Trudeau’s visiting Australia if that is the case.

  107. C.L.

    Panasonic has created a fridge that drives to you when called.

    Irons, vacuum cleaners, microwaves, washing machines, dryers …
    There isn’t much left for women to do nowadays.

  108. Welcome to country was criticised by Pauline Hanson today. She claimed that two recent internal flights she travelled on had some form of indigenous welcome on landing.

    I can see me doing some “booing” in the near future.
    The Opera House booing is, as said above, a good sign.
    Consider who attends shindigs at the Opera House, & how few of them would not be full-on with the corporate supine attitude toward that sort of bullshit, & how few of that subset would have the balls to break ranks & actually articulate a “boo”

    I’m quite pleased to see it. For nothing is beyond held up to ridicule.

  109. Panasonic has created a fridge that drives to you when called.

    Does it take a p1ss for you as well?

    Maybe there are somethings you have to do yourself.

  110. notafan

    My robot vacuum cleaner needs emptying too often, and it gets stuck in corners, I am back to using the Dyson.

    Disappointing

  111. John Constantine

    The explorer and frontier spirit is no longer Required in Big Australia.

    25 million australians is too many for the Great Ocean Road and Grampians infrastructure, therefore rationing of access is required.

    80, or even 60 million citizens of the world that occupy sleeping pods in australian cities will be too many for explorer style access to the great outdoors.

    Internal passports and training courses to leave cities, or Logan’s Run.

    Comrades.

  112. Mother Lode

    Just saw this from zyco:

    Woman Required to Cover Up on American Airlines Flight Says Race Was a Factor (includes pictures)

    but this from earlier this year. Another woman asked to cover up

    I remember when I read that she said that the airline wouldn’t have asked a white woman to do so, and so they were racist.

    There was absolutely no evidence presented that they wouldn’t ask a white woman that. She imagined it was so and then declared they were racist.

    They try this nonsense on because it works, and every time it works it primes the resentment demographic for the next absurd claim.

  113. C.L.

    Reminds me of a Roger Dangerfield gag …

    But I shouldn’t make fun of my wife. She’s attached to a machine keeping her alive … the refrigerator.

  114. My robot vacuum cleaner needs emptying too often, and it gets stuck in corners

    My slave wife does all the cleaning.

    I have similar problems.

  115. Infidel Tiger

    Does it take a p1ss for you as well?

    Maybe there are somethings you have to do yourself.

    The sort of person who needs a mobile fridge probably just pisses in a bucket.

  116. egg_

    Does it take a p1ss for you as well?

    IIRC a guy invented potty chairs with cup holders for watching the NFL Final uninterrupted.
    Al Bundy would no doubt approve.

  117. Nick

    I had a transit stop in Singapore the other night and stayed in a hotel that had robot service. She rang my phone and was at my door, she said something about happy service, her slot opened and I took the towel that was there. I didn’t even get her name.

  118. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Hey, do you live alone?

    What’s a classy guy like him doing with a low class broad like you?

    Rodney Dangerfield, Sam Kinison were great (ARRRRHHHH! ARRRHHH!).

    Best parts of Back to School:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlVDGmjz7eM

  119. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    no wonder JFK was clipped. He and his brother managed to piss off the Mafia, right wing weirdos, a good portion of the population of Miami, the CIA and the FBI.

    Pretty much, he had a list of enemies longer than Nixon.

  120. thefrollickingmole

    In HR hell at the moment..

    1: worker blows over the limit at 9:30 (supposed to start at 6:00) , sacked
    2: Chef has night on the piss, grabs barmaids tits, sacked
    3: Worker threatens tavern manager if he cant stay past shut time to watch footy, sacked
    4: another worker reported for trying to undo bra on shop staff as a joke, pending….

    Been a wonderful day and a half here.

    Like waiting for a bus, bugger all for ages then 4 turn up at once…

  121. egg_

    1735099 is the Daikin part no. for an ionizer wire?

  122. Fisky

    Ha ha finally!

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Paul Ryan, the failed V.P. candidate & former Speaker of the House, whose record of achievement was atrocious (except during my first two years as President), ultimately became a long running lame duck failure, leaving his Party in the lurch both as a fundraiser & leader……

  123. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    None
    #3103142, posted on July 12, 2019 at 11:30 am

    DrBeauGan
    #3103099, posted on July 12, 2019 at 10:30 am
    I forgot to mention that I was propositioned by a middle-aged lady who offered to help me and told me I was beautiful. She had a much younger pimp with her. I thought of showing her a picture of Maria so she could see what she was up against. But it would have been cruel, so I didn’t.

    Poor, poor people.

    Beaugan has zero self awareness. This is the confession of an A grade exploiter. BG is the very type of person who creates those “poor poor people”, complete with photo of Maria for penis bragging rights. Disgusting individuals like Beaugan are no better than Castro.

    Good lord.

    She’s wound up like a 1000 day watch.

    Dr BG created the Castro regime just to get some sweet latina maid action.

    The person we’re dealing with is actually…the Cigar Smoking Man!

  124. Woolfe

    Hey Mole We had a guy nearly kill himself and destroy a D11 dover with value of 3.8m, breaking every rule in the book, didn’t even get a warning. HR departments are evil.

  125. Infidel Tiger

    Ha ha finally!

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Paul Ryan, the failed V.P. candidate & former Speaker of the House, whose record of achievement was atrocious (except during my first two years as President), ultimately became a long running lame duck failure, leaving his Party in the lurch both as a fundraiser & leader……

    I’ll never forget the 2012 VP debates where Biden absolutely trounced Ryan.

    Ryan is a leightweight chocker.

  126. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Welcome to country was criticised by Pauline Hanson today. She claimed that two recent internal flights she travelled on had some form of indigenous welcome on landing.

    This is getting absurd.

  127. egg_

    he had a list of enemies longer than Nixon.

    JFK Cluedo would be a tough game.
    Even Bush Senior was in Dallas that day, speaking of Cuban connections.

  128. thefrollickingmole

    And having the flag of another country – the butcher’s apron (Union Jack) – displayed on our nation’s flag is OK?


    For the tard wrangler.

  129. feelthebern

    Given the alleged booing was at the Sydney Opera House, I am astonished the luvvie audience didn’t lynch the booer on the spot.

    This is why you can file this under “things that never happened”.

  130. thefrollickingmole

    Woolfe

    Go hard or go home then.
    Nice effort on the dozer, is it the one pictured on fire on a stockpile Ive seen recently or another?

  131. max

    Have really gone off Ellroy, johanna. Early stuff was great and I enjoyed the one you mentioned. I lasted about three pages into his latest but probably need to persevere. Did you go to any of his talks/ readings when he was out here a few years ago. He seemed slightly obsessed with the Kennedys.

  132. C.L.

    This is getting absurd.

    Not at all, Dot.
    Aborigines always welcomed-to-country visitors arriving on planes.

  133. C.L.

    Irons, vacuum cleaners, microwaves, washing machines, dryers …
    There isn’t much left for women to do nowadays.

    Or us single blokes, either.

  134. max

    Heading out to BBQs Galore in a minute to pick up some bits and pieces.

    I expect a Welcome to Country when I walk in the door.

    Also Bunnings.

  135. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Good to see the tard wrangler agrees that Welcome to Country is a crock of shit. It’s just grifting. I was shocked to find out a few years ago they’re paid to mumble on in a probably invented language.*

    The flag might not be the best but what do you replace it with?

    Arguably any flag derived off the current one has the same problems as the current one (at least according to one man and a fax machine). At the time, when we still considered ourselves British, it did not win a plebiscite but it was drawn from a competition and combined the features of the top six designs.

    I like the Eureka Stockade flag; it led to rule of law, it was a tax revolt and it also led to self-government. It is also one of the older designs we have. I think it has good design features, colour, symmetry etc.

    *I’ve seen an instance where an “elder” gets caught out inventing words for a “dictionary” by an actual Aboriginal linguist.

    Might be a distraction squirrel though. The spastic ‘tard herder can’t bring himself to say “welcome to country was simply made up in the late 1990s – it did not exist before then…”

  136. He and his brother managed to piss off the Mafia, right wing weirdos, a good portion of the population of Miami, the CIA and the FBI.

    and da unions
    and defense (unless already covered by “right wing weirdos”)
    and the cubans
    and the wussians

    I don’t know who dunnit. But I’m convinced they both new they were dead men walking.

  137. Cardimona

    Welcome to the country ceremonies were introduced by Ernie Dingo when the Maori Football team noted there was nothing like the Haka here.

    Can anyone put a year on this? I have previously noted down 1979 and 1985… It’s a good bit of ammo, if I can authenticate it somewhat.

  138. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    2: Chef has night on the piss, grabs barmaids tits, sacked
    3: Worker threatens tavern manager if he cant stay past shut time to watch footy, sacked
    4: another worker reported for trying to undo bra on shop staff as a joke, pending….

    Okay, what have these got to do with your work?

    Unless they’re frolicking around in the company hi-vis, they have naught to do with their employer.

  139. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump

    I am not a fan of Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, which are not money, and whose value is highly volatile and based on thin air. Unregulated Crypto Assets can facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity…

    ….Similarly, Facebook Libra’s “virtual currency” will have little standing or dependability. If Facebook and other companies want to become a bank, they must seek a new Banking Charter and become subject to all Banking Regulations, just like other Banks, both National…

    …and International. We have only one real currency in the USA, and it is stronger than ever, both dependable and reliable. It is by far the most dominant currency anywhere in the World, and it will always stay that way. It is called the United States Dollar!

    Great stuff.

    Libertarians will be crying into their badly abused blow up dolls tonight.

  140. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Rugby League invented an Aboriginal Haka…for football test matches; not as an obligatory prayer to the Habsburg hat in the town square, which is what “Welcome to Country” has become.

  141. Mark from Melbourne

    My robot vacuum cleaner needs emptying too often, and it gets stuck in corners

    My robot vacuum cleaner started out gangbusters, then slowly went mad and would only go in circles. Finally, it committed suicide by leaping down a 3m staircase.

    I think it was for the best. I also half suspect the cat.

  142. Woolfe

    Don’t think there are picture of it out there mole, WA DMIRS has a write upon it, Dozer driven round cliff at night then slewed off, luckily blade and ripper box got caught allowing moron to escape. We put the Geotech radar on it, moved 5cm the next night and then fell 150m into a ravine.

  143. feelthebern

    Libra isn’t a crypto currency.
    Libra is a further tool for Overlord Zuckerberg to enslave all those who use the fb ecosystem.

  144. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Libra is the best argument for BTC anyone could possibly make.

    Other good news:

    Apple cofounder Steve Wozniak says most people should ‘figure out a way to get off Facebook’

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/apple-cofounder-steve-wozniak-urges-people-to-leave-facebook-2019-7?r=US&IR=T

  145. MatrixTransform

    Isn’t it great when people have something to sell (other than sex)

    Then why are you and Nong so busy selling yours in every other post?

    At least Maria is trying to sell sex with her sex and is fairly honest about it.
    More honest and moral that the pair of you squared.

    all you 2 are offering in your transaction is your mouth and yr vag with free whining misery thrown in for free.

    The real truth though is the kicker.
    With Marias deal there comes a promise.

    And so there is too there’s a promise with the deal offered by Nong or Nota.
    Except nobody wants you or your deal, or the implied promise that goes with it.

    The problem isn’t yr vag though … its your mouth
    nah, actually its worse than that … it sounds like its yr mouth but really, the problem is yr heart

  146. Top Ender

    Cardimona, a very late response, but excellent letters.

  147. feelthebern

    Just wait until fb offers free Libra.
    It will go nuts.
    Just like WeChat did when they offered free red packets at Chinese New Year in 2018.
    All built to enslave people.
    Amazing how many people died to provide future generations with freedom & those future generations run towards those who wish to enslave them.
    No wonder real history is not taught in schools.

  148. 1735099

    I like the Eureka Stockade flag; it led to rule of law, it was a tax revolt and it also led to self-government. It is also one of the older designs we have. I think it has good design features, colour, symmetry etc.

    That’s why it’s my avatar.

    “welcome to country was simply made up in the late 1990s – it did not exist before then…”

    True, but it should have.
    It’s a very small symbolic thing to help compensate for the 200 years of atrocities including the genocide of the Palawa as the most notable, but the Harpics here are so mean, spiteful and ungenerous that they begrudge it.
    It’s a small thing speaking (historical) truth to power, something that is intolerable on this blog.

  149. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Bern

    We give them happiness, and they give us authority.

  150. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    True, but it should have.

    No, it is inauthentic and it is tendentious crap imposed on everyone else.

  151. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Dr. BG, a single man travelling alone is going to be propositioned in certain circumstances in many countries that are not well off. Hairy tells me of the many times in China and elsewhere where he has had to nicely refuse knocks on the door, even in top quality hotels, from young ladies smilingly enquiring ‘massage?’, who must have ways of accessing locked lifts.

    In some hotels when we are together we may both glance knowingly behind her back when a woman in the lift wearing slightly unusual clothing and with a certain made-up perfection stares straight ahead, less than relaxed and communicative, having instead the brisk appearance of business. Her profession is inevitably identifiable if she is also toting a make-up case of a particular sort used to carry her tools of trade. On her way to a particular sort of appointment, we nod sagely when she has gone.

    Usually, n smart hotels, it is well beyond daylight hours when such ladies are seen.

  152. notafan

    The first recorded welcome to country occurred in 1976, when entertainers Ernie Dingo and Richard Walley developed a ceremony to welcome a group of Māori artists who were participating in the Perth International Arts Festival. The welcome, extended on behalf of the Noongar people, was intended to mirror the visitors’ own traditions, while incorporating elements of Aboriginal culture.[5]

    Walley recalled:[6]

    I asked the good spirits of my ancestors and the good spirits of the ancestors of the land to watch over us and keep our guests safe while they’re in our Country. And then I talked to the spirits of their ancestors, saying that we’re looking after them here and we will send them back to their Country.

    Arts administrator Rhoda Roberts says that the Aboriginal National Theatre Trust was instrumental in developing the welcome to country during the 1980s.[7]

    Since 2008, a welcome to country has been incorporated into the ceremonial opening of the Parliament of Australia, an event which occurs after each federal election. The welcome includes a speech as well as traditional music and dance. Given that Parliament sits in Canberra, traditionally part of Ngambri country, a Ngambri elder officiates.[8]

    wiki my friend

  153. Infidel Tiger

    Anyone who gives Zuckerberg and his evil cabal their financial details is a whacko.

    Libra must be banned.

  154. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    From one of those Zero Hedge articles:

    “During the last hundred years the temperature increased about 0.1°C because of carbon dioxide. The human contribution was about 0.01°C”, the Finnish researchers bluntly state in one among a series of papers.

    No one is denying the GHG effect. Just that a carbon tax is a stupid and useless environmental policy. It was always about the politics of envy and government greed.

    A better policy would be a complete tax holiday for the nuke industry for 30 years and to scrap all excises and subsidies otherwise. The best would be no policy at all since a 1% contribution to a problem is trivial.

    If we do need geoengineering, the greens did their best to effectively ban that. Private companies were iron seeding for voluntary carbon credits at a profit before the alarmists (followers of the insane and dangerous precautionary principle) shut it down.

  155. Interesting tools – one for Callie, one for Lizzie, and one for the blokes who bash their thumbs.

  156. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    IT – FB has a shadow account of you regardless if you have ever signed up or not. They know what time of day you poop and what your heart rate probably is.

    The idea that it is an intel. front doesn’t look so kooky anymore.

  157. notafan

    another classy contribution from dumbtrix

    why don’t you stick to the nasty stories about your wife you quality contributor you

    my point that you did not get obviously is that Guatemala unlike Cuba is a democracy and therefore people could off their own bat manufacture and sell things to tourists

    you cannot make things to sell if you have nothing to make things from

  158. notafan

    We seem to have attracted a mob of ultra nasties lately

    Far worse than anything any of the women here ever say

    I notice Pedro and the others just ignore that snarling bile

  159. 1735099

    No, it is inauthentic and it is tendentious crap imposed on everyone else.

    Was the genocide of the Palawa “authentic”?
    It was, after all, “imposed” on them.

  160. feelthebern

    If Trump used the DoJ to target fb, with a view to breaking it up, the rest of the tech sector would cheer it on.
    It would be Trumps best move.

  161. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    What has the killing off of Tasmanian Aborigines got to do with the legitimacy of Welcome to Country being practised elsewhere?

    You are making a very strange argument for this absurd practice that everyone awkwardly mopes through.

  162. feelthebern

    Doing a quick squizz around the msm.
    I can’t see the reporting of Chuck Schumer being a long time recipient of Epstein donations.
    Why not?

  163. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump

    A big subject today at the White House Social Media Summit will be the tremendous dishonesty, bias, discrimination and suppression practiced by certain companies. We will not let them get away with it much longer. The Fake News Media will also be there, but for a limited period..

    Libertarians owned again!

  164. Old School Conservative

    1735099
    #3103251, posted on July 12, 2019 at 1:53 pm
    It’s a very small symbolic thing to help compensate for the 200 years of atrocities….

    …and $35 billion per year.
    No atrocities in living memory either.
    The logic is poor in this one, padawan.

  165. thefrollickingmole

    Jebus Chisto Realdo, can the editors get any more useless at an apparently major newspaper.
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jul/10/donald-trump-social-media-summit-conservative-activists

    But the Trump administration did not include any representatives from major social media firms – including Facebook, Twitter or Google – instead inviting a mix of inflammatory internet personalities including rightwing Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe, pro-Trump activist Bill Mitchell, college Republican activist Charlie Kirk and Ben Garrison, a rightwing cartoonist who agreed not to attend amid widespread criticism from one of his virulently antisemitic cartoons.

    The bloke was criticized by one of his own cartoons?

    Trump is having fun though.
    The meeting on Thursday was the latest move from the Trump administration in response to its unsubstantiated claims that conservative voices are being discriminated against on social media platforms. In May, the White House launched a tool to allow users to report if they felt they had been censored on websites such as Facebook and Twitter.

  166. Cardimona

    Thanks, Nota!
    I didn’t think to check Wikipedia… I’m surprised they tolerate that sort of truthiness.

  167. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    A big subject today at the White House Social Media Summit will be the tremendous dishonesty, bias, discrimination and suppression practiced by certain companies.

    Sounds like he’s talking about IGN and Kotaku.

  168. Memoryvault

    “During the last hundred years the temperature increased about 0.1°C because of carbon dioxide. The human contribution was about 0.01°C”, the Finnish researchers bluntly state in one among a series of papers.

    The amount of atmospheric CO2 does not cause changes in atmospheric temperature at all. The level of atmospheric CO2 is the result of changes in ocean temperatures. This is fully in accordance with Henry’s Law, one of the Noble Gas Laws. Humans have absolutely stuff-all to do with it.

    Don’t they teach basic stuff like the Gas Laws in Science in Junior High School anymore?

  169. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Noble Gas Laws

    Ideal Gas Laws?

  170. MatrixTransform

    It’s a very small symbolic thing to help compensate for the 200 years of atrocities

    My brother in law jokes that they’re just waiting for whitey to fuck off.

    nice gesture that ceremony … you leaving now?

    didnt think so

  171. thefrollickingmole

    Woolfe

    Saw that one, idiot was extremely lucky the thing snagged so he could get out.

    Never a great thing to be the subject of a DMIRS note.
    And he kept his job? At least you know whos got the negatives of managements “sexy, sexy, Lamas” party last year….

  172. notafan

    Cardimona

    what is ironic/amusing is that other tribes were not at all welcome

    and the consequences of trespass were dire

    I read many years ago of lubra stealing etc

    but these things don’t get talked about any more

  173. dover_beach

    Calli is a very fine travel writer, notafan too. They could certainly write books that would fly off the shelves detailing their adventurers.

  174. Memoryvault

    Noble Gas Laws
    Ideal Gas Laws?

    Name change.
    Same Laws.

  175. Woolfe

    Mole everyone but HR wanted him either gone or transferred somewhere where he could not hurt anyone as he was a risk. Guess what happened last week? He put a dozer on its side that I had to recover when I returned from R&R. But this time only hire D10. Can’t make this ship up.

  176. MatrixTransform

    you cannot make things to sell if you have nothing to make things from

    and that, dear grrl , is exactly my point.

    you making yourself the but of your own joke is certainly funnier than any anecdote I’ve told about the old mole.

  177. Beachcomber

    Memoryvault at 2:17 pm

    The amount of atmospheric CO2 does not cause changes in atmospheric temperature at all. The level of atmospheric CO2 is the result of changes in ocean temperatures. This is fully in accordance with Henry’s Law, one of the Noble Gas Laws. Humans have absolutely stuff-all to do with it.

    Don’t they teach basic stuff like the Gas Laws in Science in Junior High School anymore?

    The teachers would have to know and understand it before they could teach it. The national curriculum and the teachers are informed by Green dogma only. Churning out Marxist drones who will go directly to vote in the next election.

  178. notafan

    more gibberish from nastyform

  179. Roger

    Local Woolworths promoting NAIDOC week: “Voice, Treaty, Truth”.

    Voice? You have elected members of parliament to represent you; talk to them.

    Treaty? Treaties are between nations not citizens and their government.

    Truth? See above.

  180. notafan

    One thing about the married ladies here is that they all, without exception, love and respect their husbands and that shows every time they reference them in a post.

    They almost all have a charming pet name too, beloved, sunbather etc

  181. Top Ender

    Pauline Hanson slams Welcome to Country ceremonies on planes

    Sascha O’Sullivan ‏The Australian July 12, 1019

    Senator Pauline Hanson has slammed “Welcome to Country” ceremonies at regional airports and rejected the need for recognition of indigenous Australians in the Constitution. “I actually flew into Rockhampton today and into Townsville and prior to my landing they actually put across that we must acknowledge the Aboriginals as the traditional land owners of this land and it is basically Welcome to Country,” Senator Hanson said.

    “I was gobsmacked, absolutely gobsmacked,” Senator Hanson told 2GB.

    “(Indigenous Australians) have been pushing for recognition in the preamble of the Constitution for being recognised as the traditional owners of the land … and I have been warning people since then do not fall for it,” Senator Hanson said.

    Senator Hanson claimed the push for recognition was antiquated.

    “They are actually causing divisions. We are all Australians together I don’t care if you are indigenous or if you were born here or if you are actually a migrant, we are not 200 years in the past we are now in the future, we are in the future generation,” Senator Hanson said.

    Senator Hanson’s criticism of Welcome to Country comes days after a member of the audience at a performance at the Sydney Opera House booed the Welcome to Country ceremony.

    The audience member was widely criticised on Twitter for “appalling” and disrespectful behaviour.

  182. Memoryvault

    Yes, I know Beachcomber, what has been done to education is criminal.

    Nonetheless there are Cats here who are my age or even older, who were educated in my time period. Apart from girls doing commercial studies, Science was a prerequisite for the Junior Certificate (in WA other names in other states) that everybody sat for at the end of Third Year (Now Year Ten).

  183. Nick

    They almost all have a charming pet name too, beloved, sunbather etc

    The Hairy ape. Lol

  184. notafan

    Nick

    I said almost all

  185. old bloke

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3103235, posted on July 12, 2019 at 1:34 pm

    At the time, when we still considered ourselves British, it did not win a plebiscite but it was drawn from a competition and combined the features of the top six designs.

    Not so Frank, the 1916 flag was changed some years later to the one we now have. The original flag had a six pointed Federation Star for the six states, that was changed to the present seven pointed Federation Star for a possible seventh state.

    Last time I checked, the Commonwealth still has only six states,

  186. feelthebern

    You remember when prior to the election Ken Wyatt was the subject of a media smear about the “special” relationship he had with a staffer?
    Now it’s Saint Ken pushing his new wagon.

  187. Nick

    I know, Nota, I’m teasing 🙂

  188. notafan

    and now you are going to get me into trouble 🙁

  189. A better policy would be a complete tax holiday for the nuke industry for 30 years and to scrap all excises and subsidies otherwise.

    Apart from no subsidies and excises, you miss a few key points.

    1. Modern coal plants emit not much more than CO2 and H2O. And in amounts that don’t count for sh1t on a geological scale.

    2. Because of 1. the gangreens have to demonize one of CO2 or H2O to fulfill their agenda. Making water a pollutant (in the eyes of the peasants) is atough ask.

    3. Nukes don’t need subsidies. They just need to get their costs down to the level of an un-penalized coal plant. This will happen over time, if the gangreen impediments are removed. Currently nukes are 2 or 3 times more expensive than coal.

  190. MatrixTransform

    nastyform

    that’s pathetic … try harder

    You’re fucking one-trick pony arent you ?
    all you have is DARVO to back up your gas-lighting gibber

    Both you and Nong just spend yr days chucking spazzes at other people in this forum.
    intolerant, vicious, damning, demeaning, sactimonious old bints.
    when it doesnt fit yr agenda the pair of you go on a tirade.
    and when yr called on it you simply play victim.

  191. Lilliana

    Welcome to country was criticised by Pauline Hanson today. She claimed that two recent internal flights she travelled on had some form of indigenous welcome on landing.

    Yes – this nonsense is everywhere. The local water utility opened a new office and had smoking ceremony or some other made up indigenous ‘ceremony’. Went to a local council meeting which started with ‘acknowledging the indigenous bla bla bla.”

  192. Infidel Tiger

    You remember when prior to the election Ken Wyatt was the subject of a media smear about the “special” relationship he had with a staffer?
    Now it’s Saint Ken pushing his new wagon.

    Truth will come out one day.

    Very incompetent minister.

  193. Andreas

    Local Woolworths promoting NAIDOC week: “Voice, Treaty, Truth”.

    It’s gone now, but the slogan was up on a billboard at a local primary school. Totally inappropriate to use public school property for political messages.

  194. Go diagonal on them Matrix. That will fix ’em.
    If all else fails, transposition and inversion are you friends.

  195. notafan

    keep going you nasty little man

    see if you reach the srr gold standard of abuse

  196. Memoryvault

    Very incompetent minister.

    Obviously a baby boomer. Or a Libertarian.
    Or even, heaven forbid, a Libertarian baby boomer!

  197. Bar Beach Swimmer

    I would like to take Maria to Australia just to show her a bottle shop. ….

    Oh golly gosh. I got a great dinner from Maria. Now she wants to stay the night. I say no. She says I am forcing her to sleep on the streets. I say no te creo. She offers to sleep on a couch. I say no. She pouts. Crikey, she does a good pout. Now she is washing up. When she has finished her wine she is going to take a shower.
    Help!!!!

    When I read the first post above from Drbg, I instantly thought – This is not Europe! Don’t bring her here! We’ll never get rid of her and we’ll all ultimately have to pick up the tab.

    When I read the second post, I thought in quick succession – What has happened to you?? What are you doing in a hellhole that every man and his dog wants to get out of? Where’s that secret power intellect – or have you got your ambition mixed up with your ability?? This woman’s a pro (and I don’t mean in that way!) I haven’t read further down but I’m hoping that the cry for help has been heard and the commandos are on the way…

  198. Infidel Tiger

    I prefer the infighting to to talk of cunnilingus and shaving.

    A better day.

  199. “Yes – this nonsense is everywhere.”

    Almost everywhere….the nice thing about going to a function or talk at the IPA, Ramsay Foundation or the Centre of Independent Studies is that they don’t indulge in this rubbish.

  200. nasty little man

    Are we talking about “Little” Johnny Howard?

    I recognize the leftist technique.

    Tis akin to “withered old slag”.

  201. Leigh Lowe

    I prefer the infighting to to talk of cunnilingus and shaving.

    Hopefully the cunnilingus and shaving weren’t concurrent.

  202. Memoryvault

    Of course you do, IT.
    After all, it’s no fun reading stuff you nothing about.
    Obviously love and sex would be high on that list.

    Best stick to infighting.
    And insulting old cripples for being happily married for 40 years.
    Definitely more up your alley.

  203. 1735099

    Welcome to country was criticised by Pauline Hanson today. She claimed that two recent internal flights she travelled on had some form of indigenous welcome on landing.

    Makes a change.
    Not so long ago (mid nineties) I was responsible for booking a couple of Aboriginal women on a return flight to Brisbane from Mt Isa to attend a NATSIEP conference.
    They were sighted by a local who was affronted by the fact that they were travelling on an aircraft on government business, and I had to field a couple of phone calls explaining the reason for the flight.
    The language in one call included the word “boong”, which I hadn’t heard in decades.

  204. “Senator Hanson’s criticism of Welcome to Country comes days after a member of the audience at a performance at the Sydney Opera House booed the Welcome to Country ceremony.

    The audience member was widely criticised on Twitter for “appalling” and disrespectful behaviour.”

    Kudos to that audience member….I call him or her a real “revolutionary”……isn’t is nice to see some people fighting back against the current zeitgeist of leftist lies, manufactured history and incessant political correctness that is strangling the country….Australia needs more people like that audience member.

  205. notafan

    Jeffrey Epstein’s Sick Story Played Out for Years in Plain Sight
    How did the New York financier stay nearly untouchable for decades? Vicky Ward—who has reported extensively on Epstein, and on efforts to rehabilitate him—finds out what’s changed.

    at the daily beast

  206. Bar Beach Swimmer

    I haven’t read further down…

    And then I did, and thought – its obviously a slow night in Havana…

  207. Black Ball

    From the Hun today:

    ‘A Texas man who had been missing for months was eaten, bones and all, by his pack of dogs, police said.
    DNA testing by medical examiners found pieces of bone recovered from the dogs’ faeces were those of Freddie Mack, 57, the Johnson County Sheriff’s Office said.
    Deputy Aaron Pitts said 18 mixed breed dogs apparently devoured all of Mr Mack’s body, his clothing and his hair, leaving nothing but 5-12cm bone fragments.
    “Never have we ever, or anyone we’ve spoken to, heard of an entire human body being consumed,” Deputy Pitts said. “The bones were completely broken up and eaten.”
    Mr Mack had serious health problems and it’s unclear whether the dogs killed their owner or ate him after he died.
    “Either way, it is a very gruesome event and we extend our sympathy to Freddie Mack’s family.” Sherriff Adam King said.
    In May, a relative reported Mr Mack missing from his home near Venus, a community of fewer than 4000 people about 50kms southwest of Dallas, saying the family hadn’t heard from him since April.’

    No family wanted to check in on the bloke who had health issues? And 18 dogs?

  208. The Barking Toad

    Hopefully the cunnilingus and shaving weren’t concurrent.

    One very quickly follows the other – according to a friend

  209. egg_

    I prefer the infighting to to talk of cunnilingus and shaving.

    The latter precedes the former?

  210. cohenite

    Some pertinent observations about the impetus under possum man for all sorts of things to do with aboriginal recognition:

    The only definitive statement of intent has come from the heart, not the mind. The Uluru Statement from the Heart demands ‘the establishment of a First Nations Voice enshrined in the Constitution’. Its stators want to ‘take a rightful place in our own country’ with ‘power over our destiny’ to bring forward a future ‘based on justice and self-determination’.

    Actually, it turns out that a stator is the non-moving part of an electric motor, but you get the idea. The full story goes like this. Once upon a time there was a well-managed and carbon-neutral country drifting peacefully upon the southern oceans. Its 500 nations lived in harmony with nature and with each other. It had no multi-storey buildings or modern sanitation, but its maps accurately displayed the locations of resting places and watering holes, and quite correctly depicted south as ‘up’. All in all, life was good for just about everyone, with the minor exceptions of the young, the old, the weak, the sick, the disabled, most women, and – let’s face it – probably most middle-aged men, too.

    Then came the English. In what was certainly one of the great ‘what have the Romans ever done for us?’ moments in world history, the English brought agriculture, building and commerce to the continent that they called Australia. The list has to stop at ‘c’ because the English hadn’t yet embraced democracy. Either that, or the list can continue with disease, enslavement, fraud, and genocide. Take your pick.

    The Uluru Statement from the Heart traces problems like violent crime and family dissolution among indigenous Australians today to the arrival of the English on Invasion Day, 1788 – and claims that only an Indigenous Voice to (definitely not in) parliament can solve them. There’s no word on who would pay the salaries of the members of the Indigenous Voice, nor who would fund the programs it demands (ahem, recommends). Sovereignty is expensive, and justice even more so. Perhaps a poll tax on indigenous voters could pay the bills. As we say in America, no representation without taxation.

    The aboriginals were not here first, committed all sorts of barbaric acts, made extinct the mega fauna and burnt the place down. They have no moral justification. This whole move by possum man and other activists is a sham, a lie and will be horribly destructive; and importantly make things worse for the aboriginals on the ground.

  211. egg_

    “Senator Hanson’s criticism of Welcome to Country comes days after a member of the audience at a performance at the Sydney Opera House booed the Welcome to Country ceremony.

    Had it been SHY, they would have been Whale Songs?

  212. JMH

    Freddie Mack? No there’s an interesting name.

  213. The Barking Toad

    ATO still struggling……

    Identified – We have identified the issues impacting Online services for agents and the portals and are working to restore services as soon as possible. Further updates will be provided on this page. We apologise for any inconvenience caused and thank you for your patience.
    Jul 12, 15:22 AEST

  214. Lilliana

    The audience member was widely criticised on Twitter for “appalling” and disrespectful behaviour.”

    The audience member should be given a medal. Time for people to push back against the leftist mind hive.

  215. Great piece uploaded on Quadrant Online by Paul Collits called “The Political Euthanasing of Tony Abbott”…well worth a read.

  216. “Lilliana
    #3103332, posted on July 12, 2019 at 3:38 pm
    The audience member was widely criticised on Twitter for “appalling” and disrespectful behaviour.”

    The audience member should be given a medal. Time for people to push back against the leftist mind hive.”

    Agree.

  217. Memoryvault

    Speaking of “First Nations” does anybody know how the “Aboriginal Flag” saga played out?

  218. feelthebern

    They were sighted by a local who was affronted by the fact that they were travelling on an aircraft on government business, and I had to field a couple of phone calls explaining the reason for the flight.

    In the 1990’s ?
    File under things that never happened.

  219. “Memoryvault
    #3103335, posted on July 12, 2019 at 3:41 pm
    Speaking of “First Nations” does anybody know how the “Aboriginal Flag” saga played out?”

    A flag designed in the early 1970’s….but no doubt, due to the current leftist obsession with claiming that the indigenous invented everything…we’ll soon be told that Aborigines were waving this flag at the Dutch in the 1600’s and at Cook in 1770.

  220. notafan

    Speaking of TA

    This is currently circulating on facebook

    Screwing the electorate
    OR
    How cheats prosper

    WARRINGAH ENROLMENT ANOMALITIES

    (From fellow blogger comment)
    I suggest you do some research about the underhanded, disgusting and what I consider should be illegal tactics used concerning new enrollment in the Warringah electorate in the lead up to the election. You WILL, like me, find some sickening anomalies. 1 example, 200 people enrolled at the one residential address…..over 2300 new enrollments above the average and nearly 5,000 more than a fast growing/expanding (single houses replaced by duplexes/triplexes and unit blocks) area/electorate on the Southern Gold Coast where I live.

    The week of the election a young AEC worker who was doing data entry posted (FB) about 200 enrolled at one address, said she told her supervisor who told her not to worry as it would all come out in the AEC post election wash up. I called the local AEC office and it was confirmed that they do not look for this type of anomaly and when they do find anomalies (extra enrollments above what one would expect) all they do is send out a letter – no further follow up and too late to make any difference to election result in that electorate. I sent a note through to Advance Australia however they agreed nothing could be done as the people are now long gone.

    This was a set up of Tony Abbott from the very beginning with a man (and his leftist Lib party minions in collusion with GetUp) who has a well known MO (reputation) to win by/for stacking branches/electoral enrollments and close contacts/connections at the AEC. They were the ones behind the selection, backing and funding of Steggall especially due to the position this man held up till Aug 2018 when he was ousted as Federal Leader of the Party/Country.

  221. “feelthebern
    #3103336, posted on July 12, 2019 at 3:44 pm
    They were sighted by a local who was affronted by the fact that they were travelling on an aircraft on government business, and I had to field a couple of phone calls explaining the reason for the flight.

    In the 1990’s ?
    File under things that never happened.”

    Exactly what I thought….a total lie.

  222. thefrollickingmole

    Ill take “things that never happened” for $50 Alex….

    Not so long ago (mid nineties) I was responsible for booking a couple of Aboriginal women on a return flight to Brisbane from Mt Isa to attend a NATSIEP conference.
    They were sighted by a local who was affronted by the fact that they were travelling on an aircraft on government business, and I had to field a couple of phone calls explaining the reason for the flight.
    The language in one call included the word “boong”, which I hadn’t heard in decades.

    Super-herder chucks his undies on the outside and makes shit up again to validate his sense of worthlessness.

    Has numberwang ever told a straight story where he wasnt performing some Stakhanovite act of social justice yet?

    Its like a male version of Millie Taint.

  223. Spider

    Dr Faustus

    The thing that does appear to be lacking in aboriginal organisations is accountability, control and oversight. In a normally managed and audited organisation it would be difficult for a person to be able to systematically defraud to that extent and for that length of time. The unlamented ATSIC was a huge case study in systematic corruption that has been studiously ignored.

    I had administrative oversight of an indigenous unit years ago. The people were fine. Very funny. Told some of the best aboriginal jokes. But their complete and utter disregard for financial accountability drove me absolutely spare. Cab charge tickets to the pub to pick up alcohol. Country Meetings in the form of BBQs featuring alcohol and dodgy or missing receipts.

    Years later I’m not certain if things are any different but I do know that they lost their sense of humor (as the black studies crowd took over)

  224. Percy Popinjay

    Its like a male version of Millie Tant.

    Terry Fuckwitt, more like.

  225. Memoryvault

    THIS “Aboriginal Flag” saga.

    Somebody must have read something.
    Talk was, the “conservative” Liberal government was maybe going to buy the copyright.
    But to the best of my knowledge, there has been no follow-up news.

  226. Diogenes

    It’s gone now, but the slogan was up on a billboard at a local primary school. Totally inappropriate to use public school property for political messages.

    Look at education.nsw.gov.au

  227. thefrollickingmole

    notafan
    #3103338, posted on July 12, 2019 at 3:47 pm
    Speaking of TA

    Its facechook so suspect.
    But i was predicting something like this might happen to TA & Dutton.

    Would be interesting to see if Duttons electorate had a similar “surge” and how closely that surge corresponded to any % of vote swing.

  228. egg_

    200 enrolled at one address

    Publish their names.

  229. thefrollickingmole

    Percy Popinjay
    #3103344, posted on July 12, 2019 at 4:02 pm
    Its like a male version of Millie Tant.

    Terry Fuckwitt, more like.

    One can only wish him Nobbys Piles.

    and one more for fun.

  230. feelthebern

    The LNP doesn’t have time to address AEC fraud.
    It’s too busy with Ken Wyatt’s boondoggle.

  231. notafan

    Would only be a repeat of Indi
    and we all know what happened with that

    I remember the indi support group deleted their twitter feed as soon as questions were asked.

    Noted that facebook is not at all reliable but I would not be surprised either

  232. Bruce of Newcastle

    Iced volvo.

    Volvo CEO Says Company May Leave Sweden Partly Due To Rise in Violent Crime

    The CEO of Volvo warns that the company is considering moving its headquarters out of Sweden in the future, partly due to a rise in violent crime.

    Håkan Samuelsson told a conference that the car maker was losing its appeal to foreign experts and engineers and further explained his concerns during an interview with SVD Näringsliv.

    “We are building cars, we cannot solve the other problems, someone else must do that,” the CEO said, adding that it is becoming more difficult to attract workers due to Sweden’s worsening reputation.

    “It’s definitely not helping when people read about shootings in Gothenburg and wonder if they really dare to move to Gothenburg,” said Samuelsson.

    I wonder why there are all those shootings in Gothenburg? It’s a mystery.

  233. “thefrollickingmole
    #3103348, posted on July 12, 2019 at 4:05 pm
    notafan
    #3103338, posted on July 12, 2019 at 3:47 pm
    Speaking of TA

    Its facechook so suspect.
    But i was predicting something like this might happen to TA & Dutton.

    Would be interesting to see if Duttons electorate had a similar “surge” and how closely that surge corresponded to any % of vote swing.”

    It would be interesting to analyse “surges” in all the electorates targeted by GetUp…..Dickson, Warringah, Boothby, Flinders, Wentworth….I mean if the Libs had any sense that’s what they’d be doing…but of course they don’t…silly me.

  234. thefrollickingmole

    Cassie of Sydney

    Yes any of the targeted areas.
    Im pretty sure Abbotts would have been the biggest just because he was seen as the biggest scalp for getup.

    It might also be interesting to see if any by-elections are open to this sort of stacking, the AEC isnt all that informative on enrollments for by-elections. (which may just mean I couldnt find the info)

  235. Bruce of Newcastle

    I feel sorry for the fish.

    Miley Cyrus Won’t Reproduce Until She’s Confident Her Kid Can ‘Live on an Earth with Fish’

    Pop star turned Planned Parenthood activist Miley Cyrus will not consider having a child due to global warming-related anxiety, vowing not to reproduce until she is confident her offspring can “live on an earth with fish in the water.” (Fact check: fish currently exist in bodies of water all over the planet).
    The “Mother’s Daughter” singer spoke at length to Elle and hit two of her go-to political topics: Feminism and climate change.

    Cyrus tied the two topics together, assigning the female gender to the planet and warning against mankind’s destruction of it.

    “When she’s angry, don’t fuck with her,” Cyrus said. “That’s the way that I feel women are like right now. The earth is angry.”

    I ask myself, is it possible to twerk underwater?

  236. Dr Faustus

    The way the Jeffrey Epstein shock horror imbroglio is playing out in the media is:

    – No apparent legit source of wealth;
    – Massive insatiable pervert, feasted on hundreds of underaged girls;
    – Ran a huge entertainment setup, catering for a “rolodex” of Who’s Who in the US;
    – Alex Accosta sent in to smooth over the emerging establishment scandal in 2007/08.

    Interestingly the only fingers are currently pointed at Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz and sorta-kinda-if-only Donald Trump.

    That seems a very small rolodex.

    There must be dozens of other movers and shakers with bums twitching, sweating cobblers – and practicing their “it was a moment of madness, consensual, and I believed she was over 18” speeches.

  237. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    incoherent rambler
    #3103303, posted on July 12, 2019 at 2:50 pm

    Oh yeah sure, what you say is all true.

    I’m just saying if they *need* to do anything, then be minimalist – given they state 10% of climate change is CO2 driven and 10% of that (1% overall) is from human action – then it is a trivial issue and should just be ignored – even such a hands-off policy is really too much.

  238. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Pop star turned Planned Parenthood activist Miley Cyrus will not consider having a child due to global warming-related anxiety, vowing not to reproduce until she is confident her offspring can “live on an earth with fish in the water.” (Fact check: fish currently exist in bodies of water all over the planet).

    My comment:

    Hit or miss?

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