Bob Brown – Road to Damascus or Not in My Backyard?

After spending his life telling us that (1) climate change is the number one world problem and (2) renewables (including wind and solar) are critical to addressing climate change, St. Bob Brown is now saying a wind power project in northern Tasmania is ‘the new Franklin Dam’ and must be opposed.

Has Brown recanted his previous advocacy of wind by suggesting that it should be subject to a cost-benefit analysis? (Previously he said that wind power should be introduced at any cost to address climate change). This would represent a major shift to a rational approach to wind power, recognising that it has both benefits and costs and often the latter outweighs the former.

Or is it simply that Brown wants wind everywhere else except Tasmania? The NIMBY trick practiced by the spivs promoting wind power who live in the leafy suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne but who would never accept wind turbines near their own homes.

If Brown really believes that wind power is critical to addressing climate change, he should welcome wind turbines in his own backyard, just as I would welcome a nuclear power station in my backyard.

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45 Responses to Bob Brown – Road to Damascus or Not in My Backyard?

  1. Cardimona

    What is the punishment for heresy in the climate cult?

  2. Roger

    Or is it simply that Brown wants wind everywhere else except Tasmania?

    That’s part of it – the blight on the landscape, out of scale development, etc..

    He also questions the economic benefits to Tasmania if the profits go overseas.

    And then there are the birds that will be shredded.

  3. a happy little debunker

    During the actual ‘Franklin dam’ issue Bob believed that a lignite power plant made much more sense.

  4. Iva Right

    Lefty hypocritical grub.

  5. Exit Stage Right

    Bob Brown is just your typical Greenie. A weapons grade Hypocrite.
    Him and his ilk all use the benefits of fossil fuels such as coal, oil and gas that is provided in their comfortable 21st century lives, but not in their backyard. I note Brown is now citing the lack of profit in this proposal that would flow to Tasmania.
    This was never a consideration in the previous energy proposals mooted for Tassie such as the Franklin Dam. He is also saying that bird kill is an issue with this proposal. What about the other hundreds of thousands of bird kill machines all around the world.
    This hippie that never grew up should be ignored. And just for the record, HE IS NOT A TASMANIAN, and hated by most real Tasmanians apart from those that gather in that enclave around Hobart that is ruled by that other NON TASMANIAN, Andrew Wilkie. Sad to say, that other Green hypocrite Christine Milne iis Tasmanian born.

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sad to say, that other Green hypocrite Christine Milne iis Tasmanian born.

    Christine Milne assured Western Australian wheat farmers that she knew all the issues confronting agriculture – she had been raised on a dairy farm in Tasmania.

  7. Nick

    He also questions the economic benefits to Tasmania if the profits go overseas.

    Strange that such a concern is never raised by the Greens when they demand they are built as much as possible, elsewhere.

  8. The same NIMBY mentality thrives where I live in South Gippsland. Fight against coal (Hazelwood) and coal seam gas and then fight against windmills (Delburn) that supposedly will replace Hazelwood.

  9. a happy little debunker

    In terms of actual economic benefit, we should note that the original Basslink has yet to return any profit to Tasmanians (via the state government) – despite the many promises that it would and in fact has only increased power prices to ordinary Tasmanians.

    We are now being almost constantly told a second Basslink would drive even more ‘profit’ to our state government.

    Don’t believe them – Don’t trust them!

  10. Frank

    Wonder how the ABC will play this one. Only kidding, don’t give a shit.

  11. Old Lefty

    So far, Frank, the ABC response has been total silence. What a surprise!

  12. Old Lefty

    Like the silence over Gore Vidal’s private life, Jon Stephens, Dorothy Hewitt, Richard Neville, etc etc.

  13. Crossie

    Iva Right
    #3108121, posted on July 15, 2019 at 7:09 pm
    Lefty hypocritical grub.

    You express it far better than I could have, succinctly and accurately.

  14. yarpos

    “In terms of actual economic benefit, we should note that the original Basslink has yet to return any profit to Tasmanians (via the state government) – despite the many promises that it would and in fact has only increased power prices to ordinary Tasmanians.

    We are now being almost constantly told a second Basslink would drive even more ‘profit’ to our state government.

    Don’t believe them – Don’t trust them!”

    reminiscent of Andrews and D’Ambrosio banging on about downward pressure of energy prices with each wind and solar project, as prices relentlessly climb due to incresing complexity and duplication.

  15. Boambee John

    When John Howard was PM, his Environment Minister opposed a plan for a wind farm somewhere in Victoria because of the potential impact on the “endangered” orange breasted parrot. The Slime took him to court, and had his decision overturned. So much for the birds!

    I read somewhere that St BB mentioned his concerns about said parrot in his bleat about this proposal. Seems the danger to the parrots increases as the wind farms get closer to his home!

  16. Karabar

    Perhaps Brown realises that FOUR papers have been published this month which DISPROVE the ridiculous notion that human activities affect the proportion of our atmosphere that is CO2.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-11/scientists-finland-japan-man-made-climate-change-doesnt-exist-practice

    Hermann Harde
    http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo?journalid=161&doi=10.11648/j.earth.20190803.13&__s=hmojxf7tq4ji8pesfvu1

    Ed Berry
    http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo?journalid=298&doi=10.11648/j.ijaos.20190301.13&__s=hmojxf7tq4ji8pesfvu1

    The zerohedge article refers to one from Finland and one from Japan. They are paywalled. It is interesting to note that Hermann Harde’s paper relies heavily on the work of Australia’s Murry Salby.

    Or perhaps Brown came across this information about the insanity of expecting anything from wind and solar.

    https://economics21.org/inconvenient-realities-new-energy-economy

  17. egg_

    How’s the Warringah Windfarm campaign faring, Bobby?

  18. Muddy

    Hypocrisy is something applicable to OTHERS, not oneself, or one’s own kind.

    Let’s go through this again: Your bog-standard socio-cultural and economic insurgent knows – not believes, but KNOWS – that humans are divided into three strata. In descending order, these are: Superhuman, Human, and Subhuman. The labels of each strata vary, but the division does not. Superhumans are comprised of themselves and their kind: the morally pure and righteous. Below them, the Humans are those not as pure and motivated, yet willing to be converted. They offer no active resistance to THE WORD. Below these drones, on the lowest strata (and quantitatively the smallest), are the Subhumans. These scum insist on thinking for themselves, offer passive or even active, resistance, and are therefore a THREAT to the Supers.

    Back to hypocrisy now. Values, norms, rules, and laws, whether informal, or formal, can only be applied to lower strata. So the concept of hypocrisy is applicable only to Humans or Subhumans, by Superhumans, and cannot be expected in the reverse. The same applies regarding tolerance, fairness, etc. This is a Top Down system.

    Bleating about our superiors not acknowledging and recanting their own hypocrisy is absurd, for the concept simply DOES NOT EXIST in their world. The pure and righteous are incapable of demonstrating anything other than purity and righteousness.

    In other words – save your breath/fingers.
    You cannot converse with a person who does not speak the same language.

  19. Bela Bartok

    I wish Silly Zali would offer Warringah instead!

  20. As a Tasmanian for the 1st. time in my life I support Bob Brown on this one. For all the doubting Thomas we do have wind farms in Tasmania. Pay a visit to Burnie on the North West Coast there are dozens of them waiting to be transported to the West Coast and there was a list of more to be built advertised in The Advocate a few weeks ago.

  21. Up The Workers!

    Bob Brown should be banned.

    He is unsustainable.

  22. jupes

    In a letter to the editor of the Hobart Mercury, former Australian Greens leader and prominent Tasmanian environmentalist Bob Brown has slammed the Robbins Island project, saying it will affect the looks of the state’s coastline as well as local bird populations.

    This.

    This admission is priceless if anyone has the wit to use it against wind farm proponents. Hit them hard and hit them often. How many Black Throated Finches* have to die so you can produce your intermittent electricity? Where’s your environmental impact statement?

    * Insert bird of choice here.

  23. Oh come on

    Bob Brown – Road to Damascus or Not in My Backyard?

    Maybe neither? His green agenda can have a hierarchy of priorities that he doesn’t have to justify to anyone. He is perfectly free to hold what would seem to many to be a wildly inconsistent position on this matter, considering his long-standing stance on CAGW. If he chooses to pay for that in the form of a diminished ability to influence public opinion, then it’s his call. That being said, his credibility worthiness already has a junk rating as a consequence of his efforts during the recent election campaign, so it’s hard to see how his opinion on anything could become less noteworthy, but let’s see him give it a crack.

  24. mareeS

    Bob has had his socks shocked off. These lovely windmills are fine (erm, only elsewhere) but once only I have to agree with the old dearie that this is not a thing to do to a pristine area.

    If this is Bob’s last crusade, I hope he wins.

    Wind turbines are monstrosities, and he should have realised it before now.

  25. Nob

    bemused
    #3108129, posted on July 15, 2019 at 7:21 pm
    The same NIMBY mentality thrives where I live in South Gippsland. Fight against coal (Hazelwood) and coal seam gas and then fight against windmills (Delburn) that supposedly will replace Hazelwood.

    While demanding EVs, trains.
    More electric everything.

  26. Nob

    The default Greenie position used to be to admire the grace and beauty of wind turbines.
    Like Caitlyn Jenner. Stunning and brave. And don’t you dare say otherwise.

    While running screaming from the sight of dark satanic oil rigs. Which are only there for a few months at most.

    Now Bob has uttered teh unutterable, will they:
    Ostracise him?
    or
    Flip shamelessly to his position?

    Will he make a humiliating public retraction while implying that the Extreme Populist Far Right UltraNationalist media are out to get him?

  27. Jannie

    Road to Damascus or Not in My Backyard?

    Its Not in My Backyard. Anywhere else is better.

  28. Ian of Brisbane

    I would comment, but what I want to say about Bob Brown is unprintable.

  29. Up The Workers!

    The perpetually-whinging eponymous Leader of the “Brown Movement” – fresh from his awesome, screaming success in assisting the A.L.P. lose the “Unloseable Election” – has been on a pedestal with feral mung-beaners and dole recipients in the mendicant State of TasMania for so long, that he now cannot stand to see a pedestal with anything other than his own pea-brained, perpetually negative, unsustainable image upon it.

    He has proposed so many of these things for other people’s back yards; build 50 in his backyard so he can fully appreciate just what he has inflicted on the landscape across the nation – and make sure that 100 % of his domestic electricity comes from these unreliable, unsightly, extortionately expensive, intermittently-working monstrosities (when the wind is blowing – not too fast and not too slow).

  30. Up The Workers!

    Jimmy Hendrix would have happily supported Bob in his latest protest…but unfortunately, it seems that he died.

    Maybe he too was ‘unsustainable’.

  31. Petros

    Just another slow learner.

  32. I_am_not_a_robot

    … a rational approach to wind power, recognising that it has both benefits and costs and often the latter outweighs the former.

    What benefits?

  33. mareeS
    #3108367, posted on July 16, 2019 at 12:30 am

    Bob has had his socks shocked off. These lovely windmills are fine (erm, only elsewhere) but once only I have to agree with the old dearie that this is not a thing to do to a pristine area.

    If this is Bob’s last crusade, I hope he wins.

    This is one of the reasons why we keep losing.
    Look, those wind turbines aren’t forever. Nature will come back very quickly once these monsters are rusted out.
    A win to a fascist like BB is a win is a win is a win. THEY NEED TO LOSE once in a while to shake their confidence.
    Unless and until we force feed these anti human azzholes their own medicine – and lots of it – we’ll never win these wars.
    Harden the buck up.

  34. The Barking Toad

    Loved the picture of Bob Bwown’s place where he lives with his bottom puncher from a few years ago showing the woodpile and smoke coming from the chimney.

    Hypocrisy thy name is Bob Bwown.

  35. egg_

    Wind turbines are monstrosities, and he should have realised it before now.

    Pure NIMBYism – Brown’s hypocrisy won’t be a dent in the scam.

  36. egg_

    Can we strap Brown to a blade with a helmet cam for a birds eye view?

  37. egg_

    showing the woodpile and smoke coming from the chimney.

    Phrasing?

  38. Frank

    Loved the picture of Bob Bwown’s place where he lives with his bottom puncher from a few years ago showing the woodpile and smoke coming from the chimney.

    He donated it to the local equivalent of the National Trust, the place where he underwent the long dark night of the soul before issuing forth as St Bob. Future generations will be able to something something…

    That takes a stratospheric level of self regard that is hard to fathom.

  39. RobK

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-16/wind-turbine-manufacture-in-tasmania-1/11209444
    Ironically, they also manufacture the jolly things there.

    Wind turbine manufacture could continue in Tasmania if more proposed wind farms go ahead.

    What more does he want.

  40. DaveR

    Road to Damascus or Not in My Backyard?

    Nothing so noble as a conversion whilst in transit for Bob. Pure and simple, if Robbins Is was in Victoria you wouldnt hear a peep.

    And Bob has dressed his opposition up by claiming the economic benefit of the proposed windfarm will not flow to Tasmania. To my knowledge, neither the Tas government nor any Tas-based company owns any renewable facility in Tasmania. Also, Basslink has been sending “green” electricity to the mainland for years.

    So like all other wind facilities in Tasmania, the project will provide jobs for Tasmanians, and the Tasmanian government will receive income from the facility and on-selling power to the mainland.

    All sorts of torturous logic here Bob.

  41. DaveR

    I meant :

    To my knowledge, neither the Tas government nor any Tas-based company owns any wind facility in Tasmania, apart from the small wind infrastructure in Tas Hydro. Also, Basslink has been sending “green” electricity to the mainland for years.

    Of course the Tasmanian government owns the Hydro.

  42. Dr Fred Llenin

    Now if we had built the Franklin Dam bobby we wouldnt have needed these eyesores , Would we ? If Hawkie and keato hadnt threatened to invade Tasmania and you had kept your mouth shut you wouldnt have had this aggravation would you?

  43. Dr Fred Llenin

    Rown might recant under torture and admit his. Deviationist plotting to overthhrow Beloved Leader dinatale and take away his au pairs ,before they take hiim to the cellar in Klimate Guard Bureau HQ for termiation .

  44. DaveR

    Dr Fred have you become Welsh?

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