Tuesday Forum: July 23, 2019

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  1. 1735099

    Rotary were one of the service organisations targeted by their left a while back.

    Aha…the evil left.
    They’re responsible for halitosis, hives, dandruff and freckles.
    They’re busy buggers.

  2. Tintarella di Luna

    Particularly in rural areas where the secretaries of some clubs were turning eighty and really looking to hand the books over.

    This is what happened to the RSL. That disgraced and disgraceful Don Rowe was the turnip who wanted to stop relatives from marching on ANZAC Day, wanting to diminish the day and walk into the hands of those who no longer want to commemorate the sacrifices of those who fought for the freedoms we cherish but are losing daily.

    As far as I am concerned all anti-discrimination laws should be repealed a Human Rights Act based on the Universal Declaration on Human Rights should be sufficient to deal with all acts of discrimination.

    Anti-discrimination laws have weaponised the vexatious offence takers to the point where our basic freedoms are under serious threat.

  3. bespoke

    Aha…the evil left.
    They’re responsible for halitosis, hives, dandruff and freckles.

  4. John Constantine

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-warned-over-states-230-billion-debt-binge-20190722-p529mr.html

    Victoria’s big-money building program could be steering the state towards fiscal strife, according to a sharp warning by a leading financial ratings agency on spending and borrowing.

    The states are committed to splashing a combined total of $231 billion, mostly on infrastructure, in the next four years, with the spending almost entirely funded by debt.

    Big Australia has mass imported so many millions of the worlds poorest people that in the next four years it must borrow a quarter of a trillion dollars from the worlds most godless commo Tyranny to patch up the infrastructure that is crumbling.

    Short life windmills, short life NBN, shortlife solar panels, shortlife submearines, shortlife dogbox napalm clad apartments, shortlife desalinisation plants, shortlife potmetal instead of structural steel.

    A trillion dollars of liabilities on stuff that will be worthless twenty years after the money is spent–and that started ticking ten years ago.

    Not just worthless, but there is a pulling down unfunded liability cost to get rid of the worthless trash.

    Still, the chicoms can’t come and repossess their worn out solar panels and broken down windmills and obsolete NBN and burnt up apartment cladding and rotted out pot metal reinforcing and rusted structural beams– because they don’t want them.

    Lucky the floating australian dollar makes our debt worthless and we can just devalue the currency to avoid reality.

    Comrades.

  5. Cassie of Sydney

    I see the SS guard is up early…..plaguing us with his usual morning diarrhea. He’s obviously got an addition to dulculax drops.

  6. 1735099

    You’re making the mistake of talking about your ‘tour’ as though you weren’t compelled to do it,

    The salient point has sailed right over your head.
    The fact that I was “compelled”, as were thousands of others, is what sticks in your craw.
    That’s history – not fantasy (especially the crap you post about my service, about which you know absolutely nothing – except that I did serve in a battalion on active duty).
    Everything else you post here is a compensation for that fact by a burned-out superannuated ex-reg.
    I’ve seen plenty of those, including the reg who refused to assault a bunker system in April 1970, whilst the Nashos in the platoon, although we were just as terrified as he was, carried out the command.
    He was a volunteer.
    He was also a big talker at the boozer – reminds me of you.
    He was choppered out and we never saw him again – should have been court-martialled.
    Suggest you take the hint, and do the same (metaphorically speaking).
    You’d be doing yourself and everyone else a great service.

  7. Cassie of Sydney

    “halitosis, hives, dandruff and freckles.”

    Must be hard looking in the mirror every morning as he does. But at least he’s now somewhat truthful about himself.

  8. DrBeauGan

    I gave up on trying to fix up a dinner date with Maria, so didn’t txt her this morning. I just got a txt from her saying:”good afternoon friend as these”.

    I’m a little hazy about the meaning, but txted back a good afternoon, and I hoped she is well and happy.

    Both sides being non-commital, perhaps. Life in another culture with different assumptions is confusing.

    I have bought two more mangoes, though I had to hunt them down. I also bought three more cigars.

    I have the essentials of survival covered.
    .

  9. Frank

    They’re responsible for halitosis, hives, dandruff and freckles.

    Add boils and prolapse and note that it is good company he keeps.

  10. John Constantine

    Imagine our future dystopia, as our proles line the streets for turnbulls State funeral parade, Spontaneously Outpouring their support for the Death Squads pushing his broken down electric hearse.

  11. Cassie of Sydney

    “DrBeauGan
    #3114406, posted on July 24, 2019 at 7:23 am”

    When are you coming home Dr BG?

  12. JC

    Not where GDP is going. Not where micro-economic reform should be made. Not what a soft or hard Brexit means, not what this week’s large corporate merger means.

    These are the subterranean depths the Economist has reached. Podcasting with Anna Wintour about Michelle Obama dissing Melania Trump.

    Vogue Editor Anna Wintour Adamantly Refuses to Talk About Melania Trump in Interview, Pivots to Michelle Obama

    Vogue editor-in-chief Anna Wintour refused to acknowledge First Lady Melania Trump’s existence in a podcast with The Economist.

    “Melania came to the UK and very consciously wanted to see herself as an ambassador for British fashion or a transatlantic ambassador. Do you value that or would you rather just stay away from the Trumps?” The Economist’s Anne McElvoy asked Wintour.

    “I think First Lady Michelle Obama really was so incredible in every decision she made about fashion, she supported young American designers, she supported designers from all over the world, she was the best ambassador that this country could possibly have,” Wintour pivoted.

    “But she’s not the first lady now so what about the one you’ve got now?” McElvoy asked again.

    Wintour held steadfast. “To me, [Obama] is the example I admire.”

    McElvoy also asked Wintour if it was a conscious decision on the part of Vogue to lift up the portrayal of Democrat women.

    “I think it’s important for Vogue to support women who are leading change in this country,” Wintour responded.

    McElvoy also asked Wintour about the president’s racist tweets. “I think the president is playing to his base. He’s very conscious and aware of who is supporting him,” Wintour responded.

  13. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m not superannuated.

    Liability Bob.

    BTW how could you see the poor bloke being choppered out with the lights off in the cinema?

  14. JC

    Jeez life’s cheap in some parts of the world. Over four murders an hour in Mexico in June.

    https://www.apnews.com/c197a3ee34834ea69f745975fa632ea2

  15. 1735099

    So the Poms have their own chlorine-bleached generic brand Fatty 5D*.
    They must be just as bored with their political leadership as the Yanks, appointing a another big-arsed clown as risible as Trump. He’s best known as “Bonking Boris”.

    *Trump (also know as the Prince of Whales) was deferred 5 times from service in Vietnam because of bone spurs. He’s forgotten which foot, even though, like most people, he has only 2.

  16. Tintarella di Luna

    McElvoy also asked Wintour if it was a conscious decision on the part of Vogue to lift up the portrayal of Democrat women.

    Get woke Go broke — such a rude creature

  17. John Constantine

    John Manning, a Moody’s vice-president and senior credit officer, warned on Monday that the rising debt and falling revenue was going to leave some states, including Victoria, in a “credit negative” position.

    “House price declines have wiped a cumulative $5.511 billion off the previously budgeted transfer duties for 2020 from the 2018 property peak, and property-related revenues will likely remain weak in 2020 in the larger eastern states of New South Wales, Victoria and Queensland,” Mr Manning said.

    “At the same time, most states are embarking on record capital expenditure programs, causing debt to rise more rapidly than revenue, a credit negative.”

    But Mr Manning said Victoria’s all-important AAA credit rating, which allows it to borrow money on good terms, remains safe and the debt the state was taking on was manageable.
    Related Article
    Working on the West Gate tunnel in Footscray last week.
    Infrastructure boom
    Big projects, bigger bills: Massive construction boom comes at a cost
    But the senior analyst warned that states’ credit profile could be weakened as they ramped up their borrowing, without big improvements in income levels over the coming years.

    Improvements in income levels.

    It just looks insane, the trillion dollars of Big Victoria spending.

    Their andrews quisling satrapy is simply locking in crushing levels of future taxation to lock in eternal big government socialism.

    If the money was spent on a Hoover Dam or an Empire State Building an incoming government couls sell and privatise it to deal with the liability.

    The trillion dollars must be burnt on trash that will actually cost more money in future to dispose of, to lock in eternal Cheerful Squalor.

    Comrades.

  18. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #3114410, posted on July 24, 2019 at 7:26 am”

    JC….I gave up on The Economist years ago. And this just confirms it. As for Anna Wintour…..the same woman who, when she was here in Australia in January watching tennis (as one does), she made disparaging remarks about Margaret Court.

    The fact that we live in a society where a sour faced woman who happens to be the editor of a very vacuous magazine and who walks around with dark black glasses is given any credence whatsoever shows just how much western societies have fallen.

  19. bespoke

    Lets recap.

    #Not against conscription.
    #Not against national service.
    # Has no sympathy for Conscientious objectors.

    All debatable in there own context but at the end of the day Numberwang would send an unwilling bloke to war.

  20. JC

    Cassie

    The undernourished cow also can’t write. She needs subs to edit and improve anything when she tries.

  21. Tintarella di Luna

    Kristina Keneally is the most irritating person in parliament — never won anything and yet there she sits a loathsome smugocrat.

  22. John Constantine

    Improvements in income levels– this requirement is locked in.

    State taxes and charges have already risen to the levels required to fund andrews insanity, he just hasn’t announced the rises yet.

    One belt one road loanshark funding just buys the time for Saruman to properly despoil the Shire before the Hobbits return.

  23. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #3114418, posted on July 24, 2019 at 7:38 am
    Cassie

    The undernourished cow also can’t write. She needs subs to edit and improve anything when she tries.”

    I had heard that….Wintour represents everything that’s wrong with the elites….in the USA, Britain, Europe and here. I just can’t believe that The Economist would give her any airtime.

  24. Tintarella di Luna

    The undernourished cow

    Succinct and perfect description of the “don’t you know who I am”, arrogant, officious and ill-bred bint.

  25. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tintarella di Luna
    #3114419, posted on July 24, 2019 at 7:38 am
    Kristina Keneally is the most irritating person in parliament — never won anything and yet there she sits a loathsome smugocrat.”

    Yep…..that a very accurate description of the skank.

  26. Tintarella di Luna

    I just can’t believe that The Economist would give her any airtime.

    Believe it Cassie in the last 15 years The Economist has become the leftist rag that it is.

  27. 1735099

    BTW how could you see the poor bloke being choppered out with the lights off in the cinema?

    Apparently Gomer believes that air-conditioned cinemas were thick on the ground in Phuoc Tuy in 1970.
    There was a civvie picture theatre at Ba Ria, with a few large holes in it post Tet, and most larger units at Nui Dat had “theatres” rigged up outdoors. We weren’t in the Dat very often, Our first Op (Finschhafen) lasted 9 weeks.
    There was no cinema at GR565685, just a lot of bamboo and secondary growth.
    You carried your own chair in one hand and your SLR (sans mag which was in your greens pocket) in the other.
    But Gomer has drunk the Katallaxy Koolaid and makes stuff up as he goes along.
    If only he could have – he would have….

  28. DrBeauGan

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3114409, posted on July 24, 2019 at 7:25 am
    “DrBeauGan
    #3114406, posted on July 24, 2019 at 7:23 am”

    When are you coming home Dr BG?

    My itinerary says October 13, Cassie, but my visa will expire on September 20. I can either go to Cancun for a day and get another 30 day visa there, or change the itinerary. It’s a toss up at the moment. I shall run out of Euros before the October date, but I expect I can get enough cuc out of the ATMs.

    I’ve never been further south than San Diego, so Cancun would be new, but it sounds like another tourist trap to me, and they bore me rigid. Decisions, decisions.

  29. John Constantine

    We haven’t learnt from Chinas ‘ghost cities’.

    Or have we?.

    Victorias ‘Ghost desalinisation plant’ was built to lock in unswerving committment to mass importing millions of the worlds poorest people into yarragrad. Their andrews occupying regime is locking in a trillion dollars of liabilities as a poison pill, if any future government doesnt continue with jamming twenty million people into melbourne, the andrews regime incurred debt will bankrupt them.

    ‘Cold dead hand’ really means something to a socialist.

  30. Cassie of Sydney

    It’s very clear that the SS guard is losing it. Perhaps he should go back to bed and read his favourite chapter of Mein Kampf and then he can ponder about what to do with those pesky “religious extremists” he so loathes. That’s get him excited for the day.

  31. 132andBush

    I’d be more inclined to think of him as one of Lenins “useful idiots”.

  32. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Here is a link to an excellent and easy-to-follow video explaining why China has so many ‘ghost’ cities.
    It is a complex story well told, where bureaucratic regulation produces some peculiar market effects.

  33. John Constantine

    Venezuela capital has lights back on after nine hour blackout. Public transport still stalled. Second largest city and rural still rationed for power.

    Once we have dynamited our coal power plants and our peoples liberation army slave labor solar panels and windmills hit end of life in the twenty twenties cascade of failure, this is our unswerving future.

  34. 1735099

    Bonking Boris is a vegan.
    That will go down well in working class Britain.

  35. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bonking Boris”

    More jealousy…..I’d say Boris indulges in a lot more bonking than the SS guard.

  36. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    McElvoy also asked Wintour if it was a conscious decision on the part of Vogue to lift up the portrayal of Democrat women.

    Just as the lamentable Australian Women’s Weekly does for a mass audience with regard to Labor women?

  37. Farmer Gez

    Looking at Boris and his 30 year old girlfriend, I bet she’s gone off meat.

  38. bespoke

    JC

    Doesn’t look to comfortable but it would be cool to live in.

    Off the see my wife in ICU! .

  39. duncanm

    Tintarella di Luna
    #3114419, posted on July 24, 2019 at 7:38 am

    Kristina Keneally is the most irritating person in parliament — never won anything and yet there she sits a loathsome smugocrat.

    what hold does KK have over the Labor party ? There’s no logical reason for her to be given repeated parachutes ?

    One also wonders how they amassed their $3.5M+ property portfolio.

  40. Top Ender

    Dunno Mark A – a naval architect would be the one to ask.

    I do recall hearing once tumblehome designs were more prone to capsize.

  41. JC

    Off the see my wife in ICU! .

    Really. Best of luck with it all.

  42. JC

    One also wonders how they amassed their $3.5M+ property portfolio.

    US$3.5 million in Sydney for a decent home gets you a bungalow on a tiny parcel of land in some burbs.

    Her hubby works for Boston Consulting.. or did so at one stage. That’s one of the premier firms around ( pun intended). If they bought in say 20 years ago, most of the 3.5 million has been made through valuation.

  43. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m amused by this story:

    PLO blocks West Bank Arabs leaving for a better life (via Lucianne)

    Secretary General of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)—Saeb Erekat—has told a political symposium in Jericho that West Bank Arabs would not be allowed to voluntarily leave—virtually holding them captives against their will.

    Erekat stated:

    “We will not allow resettlement or formation of refugee committees for that aim, while holding on to the settlement of their cause in accordance with international legitimacy resolutions.”

    There you go. The Palis in the West Bank are not so keen on one Palestine from the river to the sea. They’re trying to leave for somewhere else. And the PLO is now trying to stop them from escaping…

  44. duncanm

    Top Ender
    #3114444, posted on July 24, 2019 at 8:17 am

    Dunno Mark A – a naval architect would be the one to ask.

    I do recall hearing once tumblehome designs were more prone to capsize.

    who says tumblehome is dead? See the Zumwalt class.

  45. Mother Lode

    Get woke Go broke — such a rude creature

    Where Dolly magazine leads, the fashion magazine industry follows.

    There seems to be a concerted effort to elevate Michelle Obama recently, by means of presenting her as a fashion icon, compassionista, and the bestie of champions.

    I fear the MSM is again convinced that if they print something, anything, that ordinary people will forget what they know and compliantly believe as they are told.

    Her husband sapped the will of the America and corroded societal bonds. She was a repulsive, bitter, imperious and vindictive presence. She openly loathed the country that had voted for her husband and kept her supplied with cakes and deep fried heifers, and an 8-year holiday itinerary.

    If she is aiming for 2024 there will also be a lot of kids who had to endure her horrible ‘one-size-fits-all’ unappetising lunches with limp colourless vegetables and innominate rusks apparently meant to be protein. She had a weight problem and that meant the everybody else had to go on a diet.

    Brrrr – it is chilling just remembering that the Obamas were in the White House.

  46. Dave in Marybrook

    So the new UKPM is a Person Of Colour, a Descendant Of Slaves and a Vegan too!
    All he needs to do is come out as bi-curious in his youth, and he’ll be on the cover of Vanity Fair.

  47. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mother Lode
    #3114449, posted on July 24, 2019 at 8:22 am”

    Post of the day Mother Lode…you described Mr and Mrs Obama to a tee.

  48. Cassie of Sydney

    “what hold does KK have over the Labor party ? “

    I have my theories…remember this is the same skank that Eddie had a hold on….a strong hold.

  49. C.L.

    Thank you, George W. Bush.

    Breaking news: Saddam’s child victims are discovered: Dozens of human remains, including newborns to 10-year-olds, are exhumed from mass grave in Iraq.

    ‘The evidence collected indicates they were summarily executed in 1988,’ said Youssef, which coincides with Saddam’s brutal ‘Anfal’ campaign against Iraq’s Kurds.

    The operation took place between 1987 and 1988 and saw nearly 180,000 Kurds killed and more than 3,000 villages destroyed.

    ‘The female victims were blindfolded and killed by gunshots to the head, but also have traces on various parts of their bodies of bullets that were fired randomly,’ Youssef said.

  50. Entropy

    Her hubby works for Boston Consulting.. or did so at one stage. That’s one of the premier firms around ( pun intended). If they bought in say 20 years ago, most of the 3.5 million has been made through valuation.

    One of those bolt hole agencies for temporarily disgraced ALP operatives that somehow keep getting government contracts despite being ridiculously expensive.

  51. stackja

    Key findings about Americans’ declining trust in government and each other
    BY LEE RAINIE AND ANDREW PERRIN
    Many Americans see declining levels of trust in the country, whether it is their confidence in the federal government and elected officials or their trust of each other, a new Pew Research Center report finds. And most believe that the interplay between the trust issues in the public and the interpersonal sphere has made it harder to solve some of the country’s problems. This research is part of the Center’s ongoing focus on issues tied to trust, facts and democracy.

  52. stackja

    Trust and Distrust in America
    Many Americans think declining trust in the government and in each other makes it harder to solve key problems. They have a wealth of ideas about what’s gone wrong and how to fix it

    BY LEE RAINIE, SCOTT KEETER AND ANDREW PERRIN

  53. duncanm

    I have my theories…remember this is the same skank that Eddie had a hold on….a strong hold.

    so she has the keys to Eddie’s skeleton cupboard ?

  54. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Rococo Liberal
    #3114320, posted on July 23, 2019 at 10:49 pm

    +1

  55. JC

    Hey Stack

    The elevator ride wasn’t intended to be a lunch menu especially with Ubereats and the Ford Fairlane in the soda fountain.

  56. duncanm

    JC – please post a warning on such links. I nearly lost my breakfast

  57. stackja

    JC posted about itself

    I’m boring and not very nice. Just forget about me

  58. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    *Trump (also know as the Prince of Whales) was deferred 5 times from service in Vietnam because of bone spurs. He’s forgotten which foot, even though, like most people, he has only 2.

    Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal, legitimate alternative to being conscripted. He chose not to exercise that alternative. It’s all on page 45 of Mark Dapin’s book.

  59. Shy Ted

    I don’t think the position of resident cartoon poster is likely to be changing hands any time soon. Cheers, Tom.

  60. Mother Lode

    I see the ABC is still pushing the idea on the banner news about an ’emu in the sky’ being the first astronomy.

  61. Percy Popinjay

    the hysteria of the post-Savile era

    Remind me, who was the “employer” of that monstrous perverted creep?

    Oh, that’s right – the BBfriggingC.

  62. Shy Ted

    The SA Marshall liberal gummint sits somewhere between incompetent and malicious. Woken by robocall at 2am today, yes 2am. Answering machine this morning says “do you think the SA gummint is on the right track? Press 1 for yes, 2 for no.” 2am!!

  63. Percy Popinjay

    I just can’t believe that The Economist would give her any airheadtime.

    Fixed, Cassie.

  64. Johno

    Little bobby sniffy poos has been renamed as Gomer. Now, Gomer doesn’t like his new name and is trying to give it away. You can’t fool us Gomer, we know who you are. You leave Mr Knuckles alone, he has a good name here . You be respectful of your betters.

  65. 1735099

    Oh goody, the other would have if he could have – but didn’t emerges.
    Tell me, ZK2A, where did you serve?
    Back bar of the Australian, perhaps?
    Or was it the guard house at Enoggera?
    Must have been tough on cold mornings when the urn ran out of coffee.
    Poor lamb……

  66. Percy Popinjay

    The SA Marshall liberal gummint sits somewhere between incompetent and malicious. Woken by robocall at 2am today, yes 2am

    Beyond parody. They’ll be banging on your door at 2:00am next time. Give the wrong answer and you’ll be hauled off to a labore camp where you’ll have plenty of time to ponder the error of your ways.

    Comrades.

  67. Johno

    Now Gomer , don’t be like that. You were dragged kicking and screaming to a war zone and then dogged it to go counting blankets at the Dat. You have no right to disparage the service of others. You were in fact a POGO.
    P.S. did you remember to pierce the top cover on your TV din dins last night?

  68. Geriatric Mayfly

    Remind me, who was the “employer” of that monstrous perverted creep?

    And who employed Stevens and Roebourne?

  69. Percy Popinjay

    Is it just me, or is there anyone else* who thinks that this shambling blundering hypocritical narcissistic incoherent and hideously vile parody of a human being will be anything other than a complete and utter joke in his new “role”?

    *Apart from Syphilis “four leaf” Spuddentrop.

  70. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Oh goody, the other would have if he could have – but didn’t emerges.

    Nobody conscripted me, Numbers Bob. I volunteered to serve.

  71. Mother Lode

    The irony is that lionising Michelle Obama, the printed paeans and panegyrics, the broadcast beatification, the worshipful websites, the adoring accolades – means she need only coast along.

    All she needs is sufficient arrogance to not feel embarrassed about not being worth the fuss.

    Melania, on the other hand, is abused across media platforms, written off as a simpleton, pointedly denigrated by ‘celebrities’ and fashion designers, denied even as courtesy what was offered with such besotted infatuation by magazine covers, or even exposure of the various initiatives she runs (for such things as steering kids clear of drugs) which ought to be publicised at least for the sake of the kids that might be saved.

    Against this headwind of malice she ploughs on, devoted to her husband, her country, and its people.

    Yet, which one is held up as inspiring?

  72. 1735099

    We know who you are

    Yep.
    I’m an open book, unlike you (and ZK2A) who lack the intestinal fortitude to identify.
    The worst I’ve to put up with are a few anonymous phoned death threats.
    They were noted, recorded, reported to the police, and we changed our number.
    These calls provided an insight into the mentality of the likes of you and some of the other abusive bogans who post here. They are paranoid individuals who believe that threats of violence will silence those who prick their delusional fantasies and altered memories. Dapin deals with it in depth.
    It’s safer to hide behind a keyboard and make up bullshit about others to hide your inadequacy.
    Calling out your bullshit about Nashos volunteering in droves is gratifying.
    And now, the truth is being told in our schools – very satisfying.
    I’m happy to put up with your bullshit simply to tell the truth.
    I feel very sorry for you.

  73. Dr Faustus

    The media hates that nassty Boris, yes it does.

    Corruption already. Yes!!!

    The Financial Times has reported this evening that Johnson has hired the Sky executive, Andrew Griffith, to be his chief business adviser in Downing Street. This comes after Griffith loaned Johnson his £9.5m Westminster townhouse from which to run his campaign.

    And Trump loves him; and none of the rooly, rooly cool senior Ministers want to play with him; and Brexit is too hard for anyone to do, far less a Circus clown; and Jeremy Corbyn wants an immediate election called so “Labour can bring good government back for the people, not just the few”

    Mrs Qwin must be wondering what she has done to have to spend her twighlight years dealing with a failed state.

  74. Knuckle Dragger

    Best I back off.

    I can’t compete with Liability Bob mentioning grid references.

  75. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘death threats’

    Your former students may well have had reason to be aggrieved, but there’s no call for that.

    Liability Bob.

  76. dover_beach

    At a Rotary meeting last night.New head of the district talking about the great new initiative the Diversity Committee dealing with race gender sexuality etc and how wonderful it was. I suspect another organization about to be turned to the social justice campaign.

    I hope you’re organizing to fight this infection which is otherwise fatal.

  77. Mater

    And now, the truth is being told in our schools – very satisfying.

    Not much danger of that.
    The latest crap I just heard being delivered is that permits to kill aboriginals (only one per day mind you) were being issued up until 1952.
    Our kids deserve better.

  78. Geriatric Mayfly

    I see the ABC is still pushing the idea on the banner news about an ’emu in the sky’ being the first astronomy.

    The only constellations that make any sense to the naked eye are Scorpio and Crux. Most of the others you could twist and turn into what ever takes hold of your imagination. So maybe there is an emu up there somewhere but buggered if I can align the stars to delineate its outline.

  79. Leigh Lowe

    After (cough “allegedly”) trying to get Brian of Moorabbin fired or disciplined by VikPlod, we now invent our own “hate campaign”.
    I am the Jussie Smollett of Toowoomba.

  80. Mother Lode

    *Trump (also know as the Prince of Whales) was deferred 5 times from service in Vietnam because of bone spurs. He’s forgotten which foot, even though, like most people, he has only 2.

    Known by whom?

    I think someone is trying to sound like they are more interesting than they are.

    It is gratifying to see the hold jealousy has on Private Hell. The Green-eyed monster that claws, rends, tears and eats itself until there is nothing left except for the teeth and claws, and a single burning cinder of hate.

    Sweet, huh?

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Jussie Smollett of Toowoomba’

    Bahahahaaa!

  82. “It’s safer to hide behind a keyboard and make up bullshit about others to hide your inadequacy.”

    I’ll just fix this….

    It’s safer to hide behind a keyboard and make up bullshit about himself to hide his inadequacies.

  83. Leigh Lowe

    1735099

    #3114478, posted on July 24, 2019 at 9:10 am

    We know who you are

    Yep.
    I’m an open book

    True.
    It’s a Little Golden Book, but a book nonetheless.
    And yes, more open than the Spud realises.

  84. Roger

    The Palis in the West Bank are not so keen on one Palestine from the river to the sea. They’re trying to leave for somewhere else. And the PLO is now trying to stop them from escaping…

    Those wicked Americans led by the racist Trump have negotiated a better life for West Bank Palestinians stuck in refugee camps, offering them financial assistance to move and resettle in five neighbouring Arab countries.

    The freedom loving PLO, which always has the best interests of its people at heart, will not countenance this callous exploitation of vulnerable people.

  85. egg_

    I see the ABC is still pushing the idea on the banner news about an ’emu in the sky’ being the first astronomy.

    Scarcely any cave paintings of same – only some vague reference to a lunar cycle (Whitey’s interpretation) of perhaps 30-odd days, that’s it.

  86. Helen

    Boris GGG mother was Circassian, reputedly a slave and the ladies of this region were prized amongs Ottomans for their beauty. I am sorry the BBC ‘Who do you think you are” did not delve into this, as it is a horrific story of ethnic cleansing, much the same as the Turks to the Armenians later, and may partly explain Boris’ GG Graddfather’s (excuse me if I have got the greats misnumbered) – the journalist anyhow – criticism of the Turks dealings with the Armenians, if his mother/grandmother has been similarly dealt with by the Russians.

    The pagan country was Christianised in the 500’s and islam made many forays but failed to gain a real foothold despite heavy influence from Persia and Turkey and the islamification of the Nobles in 1717. many nobles converted in an effort to defeat the Russians. Russia wanted the fertile land which is frost free for more that six months a year, and the Circassians fought the Russians for 100 years before sucumbing whereupon the Russians continued their villiage burning and murder bringing in Tartars to the farm areas and the Ottomans sent boats to collect the people rounded up and forced out so they could go to Turkey. Many died. It is a truely foul stain on the Russians. The British tried to negotiate a better outcome for the Circasians, but were thwarted by the French and the Turks.

  87. C.L.

    What a coincidence. This is what Vogue once had on its cover and insert pics as an example of perfect tubby womanhood.

    Picture at that (disgusting) link shows Amy Schumer’s husband seriously contemplating homicide.

  88. egg_

    It’s safer to hide behind a keyboard and make up bullshit about himself to hide his inadequacies.

    There’s gotta be a support group for this stuff, or did they get sick of the chronic whining?

  89. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘He’s forgotten which foot, even though, like most people, he has only 2’

    He murmured, fondling his diversity quilt.

  90. egg_

    *Trump (also know as the Prince of Whales) was deferred 5 times from service in Vietnam because of bone spurs. He’s forgotten which foot, even though, like most people, he has only 2.

    Had the brains to evade the fog of war?

  91. P

    Phillipa Martyr: A catechesis Australia needs

    If this is same Philippa Martyr of Catallaxyfiles, then they should have spelled her name correctly.

  92. Geriatric Mayfly

    Scarcely any cave paintings of same – only some vague reference to a lunar cycle (Whitey’s interpretation) of perhaps 30-odd days, that’s it.

    They could hardly miss the brightest object in the night sky. You would think that their astronomical curiosity would also be turned to Venus, Sirius and Jupiter also standouts in luminosity, and periodically a comet or two.

  93. Shy Ted

    Aww! The cosmetically enhanced lady with cosmetically enhanced parts to die for on the internet dating thingy has rejected my advances. Gotta stop putting my photo up.
    In other news, if you remember the “You can spell, You can read, Can you have an informed conversation about #metoo movement, Can you identify what is old wave and new wave feminism? Can you articulate the changes you think the world needs, Can you talk about sexuality, not sex? Do you follow any bloggers? Do you have a Spotify account? Is your music stuck in your teens? Are you friends with the mother of your children ( i hope so) You can enjoy foreign movies with subtitles!!! The whole world does not need to speak English! What humanitarian causes you care about, What countries (NOT BALI OR ENGLAND) you are interested in, What languages you have learned or want to, What you dream at night, What you wish for this world, Why you DON’T BELIEVE THIS GOVERNMENT’S LIES” lady, she’s put a photo up and she’s quite a looker. Gonna send her a “like” as soon as I’ve taken a new selfie in a MAGA hat.

  94. Old School Conservative

    P
    #3114499, posted on July 24, 2019 at 9:41 am
    Phillipa Martyr: A catechesis Australia needs

    Yes P, it probably is “our” Philippa as she uses cat in the heading and writes interestingly e.g.

    The Anglican communion has shown us what happens when you try to accommodate multiple different interpretations of the Christian deposit of faith. You end up with an increasingly irrelevant and top-heavy organisation with a substantial property portfolio and almost empty churches.

  95. egg_

    what hold does KK have over the Labor party ?

    Hubby has connections?
    She’s (relatively) easy on the eye, marketing wise (“showbiz for fugly people”) – the reason why she was originally hired over hubby?

  96. Boambee John

    *Trump (also know as the Prince of Whales) was deferred 5 times from service in Vietnam because of bone spurs. He’s forgotten which foot, even though, like most people, he has only 2.

    TDS, perseveration and seagull sh1t, all in two sentences!!

  97. Knuckle Dragger

    Ted,

    Wear a Bintang singlet as well.

    Perfect. Also, tell her she’d better not be putting up fake photos because you don’t like fat chicks.

  98. Johno

    Gomer, you little devil. Lift your game lad.Lift your game. You haven’t “exposed” anything. Well, nothing that a near sighted person would ever notice.

  99. Johno

    Hey BON I am currently being invaded by black cockatoos. They love my place, there must be forty of them.
    They are a big bird and how they manage to cling onto the thinnest little twig and eat the seeds is a bit of a mystery.

  100. DrBeauGan

    Just got a phone call from Maria making a date for tomorrow. Maybe if she makes it, she will keep it. I guess I will find out tomorrow.

  101. 1735099

    Leigh Lowe
    #3114486, posted on July 24, 2019 at 9:24 am
    After (cough “allegedly”) trying to get Brian of Moorabbin fired or disciplined by VikPlod, we now invent our own “hate campaign”.

    This Brian of Moorabbin stuff is a prime example of the genre known as Catallaxy fantasy.
    What actually happened is pretty boring, but the fantasy that has developed since has got a few very very excited.
    Briefly, I posted an account of a digger in my unit being allowed to die of heat exhaustion because one or another of our commanders refused to allow a chopper into our position to evacuate him.
    It was a thoroughly disgraceful episode which is recorded in the commanders’ diaries on the AWM website.
    Brian of Moorabbin took exception and claimed I was besmirching the reputation of the battalion. He got quite wound up and threatened in a post to complain to the battalion association. The usual suspects were abusing me non-stop and egging him on.
    I dared him (in a post) to go ahead, but suggested that I could also contact his employer to note that he was using police time and resources to blog. I never had any intention of doing so, and was finding the whole imbroglio amusing, but winding him up was fun.
    Neither of these things happened, but I do remember Sinclair getting involved and confirming that I had not, as far as he knew, followed through, because it had become the accepted fantasy that I had. The whole episode should still be in the archive, but I don’t have the time to chase it up, as I’m up to my ears in reading for a literature review.
    I was a bit disappointed that Brian hadn’t carried out his threat. He would have received very short shrift.
    Fantasies around this episode have become part of Catallaxy folklore. It has grown and expanded with the passage of time.
    What it shows of course, is the ingrained nature of military myth, and the outrage that emerges when it is challenged.
    There’s plenty of examples of that here, which is offering rich pickings for my research.

  102. Knuckle Dragger

    Someone should immediately contact the AFL and identify their position on booing Chinese swimmers who happen to be cheating flogs.

  103. dover_beach

    If this is same Philippa Martyr of Catallaxyfiles, then they should have spelled her name correctly.

    True, and it is her good self too. And she is dead right too. Good article.

  104. egg_

    just an exchange of bodily fluids.

    Cuckolders must enjoy sharing bodily fluids with multiple others – the wages of sin?

  105. Some History

    1.

    It doesn’t stop. It just goes on and on… and on…

    Outdoor smoking bans (e.g., parks, beaches) started to make an appearance in parts of America about 7 years ago. At the time on a particular blog the question was posed how they would justify such bans. There wasn’t even any contrived evidence of “hazard” for outdoor encounters with quickly diluting wisps of smoke, and not for the want of trying. In the outdoors the only thing that might be measured is particulate matter. Yet even this is very difficult with quickly diluting tobacco smoke. The handful of “studies” (typically conducted by activists) conducted have had to position the measuring device only millimetres from the lit end of a cigarette to get a reading. It has no sensible application let alone attempting to connect these “exposures” to health effects.

    So, how were the fanatics going to justify outdoor bans when it was essentially impossible to even manufacture evidence of “hazard” in the outdoor setting? Just straight out lie. Speak of the outdoors as if it was the indoors. Speak of “passive smoke” hazard. The fanatics so dominate proceedings that no-one will question the inflammatory crap.

  106. notafan

    last week, the blonde beauty posted a snap of herself

    I see subjectivity is the flavour of the month

    Amy Schumer is an average looking woman

    no-one shopping an Woolies on a Saturday morning seeing her standing in the queue would give her a second glance

    when she was younger and with a wall of warpaint she was pretty

  107. Some History

    2.

    The latest ban demonstrates this clearly.
    North Sydney Council’s smoking ban blasted by Steve Price
    Steve Price is severely unimpressed with a Sydney council that’s banned smoking in public places, telling the mayor it’s a “nanny state solution”.

    A ban on smoking in public places has not gone down well with radio host Steve Price, who grilled a Sydney mayor over her “nanny state solution”.
    Last night, North Sydney Council became the first authority in the city to outright ban the cancerous habit on public streets in the CBD — after a local study found 80 per cent of residents backed the move.
    However, nicotine addicts needn’t worry about spending time behind bars for indulging in a smoko on the lower north shore just yet, because there aren’t even any penalties currently in place for those who break the rules.
    Instead, signs will be installed and rangers will patrol the area to “educate” smokers on the changes.
    Inviting North Sydney Mayor Jilly Gibson on his 2GB show, Mr Price asked why the council wanted to take away his rights to indulge in a legal activity.
    What about the nonsmokers’ rights to walk through the streets of our CBD and not have to breathe in sidestream smoke?” Ms Gibson responded.
    “There’s a lot a smoking on the streets and a large amount of cigarette butt litter. So we will have a cleaner CBD and a healthier CBD.
    This is about setting community standards and encouraging our residents and workers to be part of positive community change.”
    However, the answer went down like sick in a cup with Mr Price who blasted the ban as a “nanny state solution” for a part of Sydney that is “advertising itself as an alternative to the CBD”.
    “What if I work in North Sydney, so don’t choose to live there … and I’m a smoker, what do I do?” he asked.
    Ms Gibson said people can simply smoke at home before and after work, but that was shot down by Mr Price as “impractical”.
    “Smokers used to use this same argument about not being able to fly long distances without smoking … that was totally unacceptable,” Ms Gibson responded.
    Elsewhere, Tamworth Regional Council has already introduced smoke-free zones and the Heart Foundation — which helped push through the North Sydney changes — is working with other councils around NSW to also change their policies.
    Heart Foundation CEO NSW, Kerry Doyle, told news.com.au the organisation is now making a submission to City of Melbourne council to increase the footprint of its CBD smoking ban.
    It is also making a submission to Hobart City Council, which subsequently committed to expanding its CBD smoking ban by April 2020.
    “The Heart Foundation congratulates North Sydney Council on its decision to ban smoking in its CBD,” said Ms Doyle.
    “It is a significant step forward in protecting the heart health of people who live and work in the area, and we encourage other councils around the country to follow North Sydney Council’s lead on this important issue
    .”
    Smoking is a leading cause of heart disease, which takes the lives of 51 Australians every single day.
    Laws that protect the public from second-hand smoke also help smokers to stay quit and de-normalise smoking behaviour,” added Ms Doyle.
    In a statement, Ms Gibson said she’s proud that North Sydney is “leading the way in this important change”.
    “There’s been a lot of interest in this proposal and I’m not surprised,” she said. “Second-hand smoke is detrimental to everyone’s health.”

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/north-sydney-councils-smoking-ban-blasted-by-steve-price/news-story/6514150ade9f28fd5cca730e68f33f47

  108. Roger

    Small victories:

    Roger Scruton has been reappointed head of the UK government housing body he was sacked from after being verballed by a woke journalist.

  109. mh

    Eddie Zipperer
    @EddieZipperer
    Oh my gosh. Look at this tweet from 2015. Tlaib did the worst thing anyone can possibly do which is to say an American citizen should be deported. CNN and MSNBC are going to be very upset.

    Rashida Tlaib
    @RashidaTlaib
    · Dec 8, 2015
    Deport this asshole! (link: http://gu.com/p/4epqv/stw) gu.com/p/4epqv/stw

    https://twitter.com/EddieZipperer/status/1153799050757468160?s=20

  110. C.L.

    I don’t trust an FBI Director who wears a bangle and waves his hands around like Liberace.

    Watch FBI Director Chris Wray Whitewash Antifa Terrorism as Ted Cruz Calls For RICO Investigation (VIDEO).

    I can’t understand why Trump makes no headway reforming this sinister gestapo.

  111. notafan

    Interesting article by DrPM

    I am confident that were there a ‘plenary council’ meeting in my parish of regular mass attenders the feedback would have been perfectly orthodox

    Just like the wonderful PP we have.

  112. Mother Lode

    The only constellations that make any sense to the naked eye are Scorpio and Crux. Most of the others you could twist and turn into what ever takes hold of your imagination. So maybe there is an emu up there somewhere but buggered if I can align the stars to delineate its outline.

    I get the feeling that they just want to argue Indigenous culture was ‘world class’ – if not as technologically advanced at least as spiritually rich and nourishing – and they do this by showing that it measures up to the Western standard with the implied but denied chauvinism therein.

    To be honest I don’t see what they would really have got from astronomy – which seems to be tied to being settled rather than nomadic. Astronomy seems usually to be tied to seasonal things such as the flowering of plants, rain and flood seasons and such. They also become intertwined with myths. But the idea that people looked up and saw images in the stars is, as you point out, fanciful.

    The constellation Orion looks nothing like a human. Sagittarius looks nothing like a centaur. When you see TV programs showing the constellations overlaid with the figures they are associated with you can see how absurd it is to believe the ancients looked skyward and were struck by resemblance to people and objects.

    Indigenous culture may have noticed that the position of certain clumps of stars on the horizon presaged the movement of animals or the pending onset of the rainy season, but it is far from certain and no more especially astronomy than noticing that when a particular plant flowers that it is a good time to look for goanna eggs – just a coincidence in the pattern of life without any attempts to explain anything.

    But maybe there is more to it. I don’t know. Not sure how the ABC knows either. There is not really anything I consider them to have expertise in – including running a TV station.

  113. Some History

    So, we have a brainwashed mayor spouting inflammatory propaganda about “passive smoke” outdoors. We have the professional activist from the heart foundation promoting the inflammatory crap – fear/hate-mongering. And there are plenty of people stupid enough to believe the inflammatory crap (i.e., brainwashed).

    Remember when it was “all we want is smoking bans on short-haul flights. What’s so unreasonable about that?” Or, with the introduction of comprehensive indoor smoking bans we would hear, “what’s the problem. All you have to do is step outside.”

    This is the nitwit North Sydney mayor, Jilly Gibson:

    https://imgur.com/aKc8rbY

    This is the professional fear/hate-monger from the “charity”, NSW heart foundation, Kerry Doyle:

    https://imgur.com/QdeVw4t

  114. Some History

    North Sydney Council seems to be particularly dysfunctional, going back years:

    https://www.ianmutton.com/ns-council-dysfunction/

  115. stackja

    C.L.
    #3114531, posted on July 24, 2019 at 10:50 am

    MSM hysteria over Hoover and Nixon stop any real reform.

  116. Some History

    A little on the virtue-signaller, Jilly Gibson:

    North Sydney Mayor Jilly Gibson suspended from driving council car after being accused of abandoning it behind a bottle shop

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/north-sydney-mayor-jilly-gibson-suspended-from-driving-council-car-after-being-accused-of-abandoning-it-behind-a-bottle-shop/news-story/fc0958eb70ae342284ef5da3545e4e04

    The virtue-signalling North Sydney Council:

    North Sydney councillors to be schooled in behavioural standards

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/north-shore/north-sydney-councillors-to-be-schooled-in-behavioural-standards/news-story/907f947a4a29b4a6ec46f3cd14d3de7c

    A bunch of dangerous tossers. Easy pickings for the professional activist nut cases.

  117. Bruce of Newcastle

    I am currently being invaded by black cockatoos.

    Johno – Winter! They all get brave when hungry. I had a little corella walk over the lawn to me and accept a bit of bread from my hand a few weeks ago. First time that’s happened.

    I only see yellow tail black cockies fly past from time to time, and less often as the developers turn bush into houses. A nice one is a red tail that is a lady’s pet – she and her black cocky sometimes go shopping at the local Stocklands. The black cocky sits on shoulder of lady despite crowds of people. Seen them a couple times.

  118. Eyrie

    “Aha…the evil left.
    They’re responsible for halitosis, hives, dandruff and freckles.
    They’re busy buggers.”

    That’s when they aren’t murdering people wholesale and retail. What’s the count? Over 100,000 I think.

  119. DrBeauGan

    Writing as a godless heathen, I have to say that the Catholic church looks to be the main if not the only defence against the loony lefty losers and their perverts and sickos.

    Pity about the Pope.

  120. stackja

    Some History
    #3114526, posted on July 24, 2019 at 10:44 am

    To satisfy North Sydney Council etc. etc. the Federal government will ban tobacco sales?
    What could possibly go wrong?

  121. Top Ender

    Assigning characteristics to bright lights in the sky is anthropomorphism or personification.

    It is not astronomy.

    Suggesting that primitive societies were in fact not primitive is not doing them any favours. My ancestors painted themselves various colours and were regularly killed in battle by much better armies. So what.

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    “What about the nonsmokers’ rights to walk through the streets of our CBD and not have to breathe in sidestream smoke?” Ms Gibson responded.

    Ms Gibson was on the news last night talking about her ban. I thought what a fine little totalitarian you are.

    If North Sinny Council wants to do da inclusive and da diversity they will licence venues with smoking licences. Then we’d see how much a club or a pub is willing to pay to be a licenced smoking venue.

    They can have signs on the front saying enter this pub and you risk dying horribly of cooties from smokers.

  123. Boambee John

    Eyrie
    #3114542, posted on July 24, 2019 at 11:12 am
    “Aha…the evil left.
    They’re responsible for halitosis, hives, dandruff and freckles.
    They’re busy buggers.”

    That’s when they aren’t murdering people wholesale and retail. What’s the count? Over 100,000 I think.

    You lost three zeros. That would be more than 100,000,000.

  124. Des Deskperson

    Speaking of Indigenous Astronomy, I went to a lecture the other night by one Professor Ray Norris :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Norris_(astrophysicist)

    an astrophysicists and an expert on Indigenous astronomy. Professor Norris argued that Indigenous Australians:

    understood the relationship of phases of the moon to tides:

    used the position of the stars in the sky to identify seasonal change

    understood the causes of solar and lunar eclipses, although they couldn’t predict them

    could distinguish planets from stars by their different movements

    could identify summer and winter solstices and the equinoxes.

    but they couldn’t or didn’t use the stars as a means of navigation

    All this sounds plausible and unsurprising, but there is still the issue of how much of this might be whitey interpretation. The good Professor is, incidentally, a staunch mate of the ABC.

  125. P

    DrBeauGan #3114543, posted on July 24, 2019 at 11:13 am

    Writing as a godless heathen, I have to say that the Catholic church looks to be the main if not the only defence against the loony lefty losers and their perverts and sickos.
    Pity about the Pope.

    Yes and yes.

    We hope.

    But also: Questions Persist About Vatican Finances, Real Estate

  126. Des Deskperson

    ‘At a Rotary meeting last night.New head of the district talking about the great new initiative the Diversity Committee dealing with race gender sexuality etc and how wonderful it was. I suspect another organization about to be turned to the social justice campaign.’

    Things have come a long way since the eighties where, in certain agencies at least, APS employees were forbidden from any official contact with Rotary because it was a male-only organisation and therefore sexist.

  127. C.L.

    GOTCHA!
    The ABC reveals charitable donations were made on behalf of Pauline Hanson when she appeared on morning TV.

    Seriously.

    Mr Hinch and Senator Hanson declared on Senate’s Register of Interests that they were donors to their respective charities but neither disclosed a third party was making a donation on their behalf.

    The incidents highlight the ability for a politician to escape having to disclose third-party payments being made in return for an appearance.

    The regular Sunrise segment ended earlier this year but the donation trend is set to continue with Senator Hanson becoming a regular guest on breakfast TV rival Today.

    The full amount of the donations from Sunrise remains unclear but the ABC has confirmed the donation on Senator Hanson’s behalf went to Meals on Wheels.

  128. stackja

    mh
    #3114553, posted on July 24, 2019 at 11:32 am

    1940s Paramount case and 1980s AT&T come to mind

  129. mh

    Tulsi Gabbard says Kamala Harris ‘not qualified’ to be commander-in-chief

    …”I think one of the things I’m most concerned with is Kamala Harris is not qualified to serve as commander-in-chief, and I can say this from a personal perspective as a soldier,” said Gabbard, who served in Iraq as a member of the Hawaii Army National Guard. “She’s got no background or experience in foreign policy and she lacks the temperament that is necessary for a commander-in-chief.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tulsi-gabbard-says-kamala-harris-not-qualified-to-be-commander-in-chief

  130. mh

    Stack, post the article if you can get behind the WSJ paywall.

  131. Some History

    Is North Sydney an affluent area?

  132. Old School Conservative

    Similar to the Rotary story is the running commentary in “Line of Duty” about women in the London Plod.
    Many do a sterling job but I think there’s an undercurrent of anti-PC commentary by the writers.
    One bad cop was a female member of the RoP.
    One top cop was a female who had been “fast tracked” over experienced males.
    A very serious interview over corruption by the male corruption chief was entirely run by women with a vast grasp of arcane procedural rules.
    The very top cop is female and her rise to that position was based on her sex precluding her from being a Mason.
    But like many “Line of Duty” plots, there are several ways to interpret anything on the screen. Enjoying the show and can’t wait for the next episode.

  133. Bruce of Newcastle

    Picture at that (disgusting) link shows Amy Schumer’s husband seriously contemplating homicide.

    Anyone who wants to live dangerously may wish to watch Trainwreck on 9Go at 8:30pm.
    Stars the pneumatic Ms Schuuuuumer herself.
    Sure to be a hoot.

  134. stackja

    mh
    #3114561, posted on July 24, 2019 at 11:43 am

    WSJ paywall unbreached.
    Only snippet:

    Justice Department to Open Broad, New Antitrust Review of Big Tech Companies
    Inquiry signals Barr’s deep interest in tech sector, poses threat to companies such as Facebook, Google, Amazon, Apple
    By Brent Kendall
    Updated July 23, 2019 5:34 pm ET
    WASHINGTON—The Justice Department is opening a broad antitrust review into whether dominant technology firms are unlawfully stifling competition, adding a new Washington threat for companies such as Facebook Inc., Google, Amazon.com Inc. and Apple Inc.

    The review is geared toward examining the practices of online platforms that dominate internet search, social media and retail services, the department said, confirming the review shortly after The Wall Street Journal reported it.

    Other reports:

    US justice department to open new antitrust review of big tech companies – WSJ
    The U.S. Justice Department is opening a broad antitrust review into whether dominant technology firms are unlawfully stifling competition, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday, citing department officials.

    DOJ announces broad antitrust review of Big Tech, pushing down shares of Alphabet, Facebook and Amazon

    PUBLISHED 5 HOURS AGO UPDATED 4 HOURS AGO
    The U.S. Department of Justice said on Tuesday that it’s opening a broad antitrust review of big tech companies, sending shares of Amazon, Alphabet and Facebook lower in extended trading.

    While the DOJ didn’t disclose specific company names, it’s launching the review based on “new Washington threats” from Facebook, Google, Amazon and Apple, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal. The agency will examine practices of online platforms that dominate internet search, social media and retail services, the DOJ said in a statement Tuesday.

    And DOJ

    Department of Justice
    Office of Public Affairs
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Tuesday, July 23, 2019
    Justice Department Reviewing the Practices of Market-Leading Online Platforms
    Review Focuses on Practices that Create or Maintain Structural Impediments to Greater Competition and User Benefits
    The Department of Justice announced today that the Department’s Antitrust Division is reviewing whether and how market-leading online platforms have achieved market power and are engaging in practices that have reduced competition, stifled innovation, or otherwise harmed consumers.

    The Department’s review will consider the widespread concerns that consumers, businesses, and entrepreneurs have expressed about search, social media, and some retail services online. The Department’s Antitrust Division is conferring with and seeking information from the public, including industry participants who have direct insight into competition in online platforms, as well as others.

    “Without the discipline of meaningful market-based competition, digital platforms may act in ways that are not responsive to consumer demands,” said Assistant Attorney General Makan Delrahim of the Antitrust Division. “The Department’s antitrust review will explore these important issues.”

    The goal of the Department’s review is to assess the competitive conditions in the online marketplace in an objective and fair-minded manner and to ensure Americans have access to free markets in which companies compete on the merits to provide services that users want. If violations of law are identified, the Department will proceed appropriately to seek redress.

    Topic(s):
    Antitrust
    Component(s):
    Antitrust Division
    Press Release Number:
    19-799
    Updated July 23, 2019

  135. Bruce of Newcastle

    the ABC has confirmed the donation on Senator Hanson’s behalf went to Meals on Wheels.

    The horror!
    Is that anything like Raelene Castle and Alan Joyce donating multiple times to Folau’s legal fund?

  136. JC:
    Mexican gun ownership laws are so restrictive that only criminals have them;
    “As a result of the changes to Article 10 of the Mexican Constitution and the enactment of the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives, openly carrying a firearm or carrying a concealed weapon in public is virtually forbidden to private citizens, unless explicitly authorized by the Secretariat of National Defense (SEDENA). For purposes of personal protection, firearms are only permitted within the place of residence and of the type and caliber permitted by law.”
    So Mexico is fairly typical of a failed state with the citizenry unable to defend themselves against a criminal class the government has no ability or will to stop.

  137. Mother Lode

    Assigning characteristics to bright lights in the sky is anthropomorphism or personification.

    It is not astronomy.

    They sought to ‘explain’ how things worked. They would then make measurements of what they saw in the sky. They would then make predictions. These predictions helped them to regulate various activities.

    The myth building part would be a kind of mnemonic which gained a life of its own but should not overshadow the fact they used the positions of heavenly bodies to decide when to plant, when to harvest, when to travel by sea etc.

    And it kind of worked.

  138. C.L.

    Finally …
    A second documentary film about Holocaust survivor Adam Goodes …

    Goodes will attend the premiere of The Australian Dream, a film by Stan Grant about the racism controversy, next week in Melbourne.

    Wait. Did I say Holocaust survivor? I meant he was booed a couple of times.
    ————
    From: AFL boss Gillon McLachlan fears Adam Goodes may be lost to football over racism.

  139. mh

    TrollasaurusRx
    @TrollasaurusRx
    ·
    Jul 21
    Oh. My. GOD! @JoeBiden’s a predator!
    #CreepyJoeBiden
    https://twitter.com/TrollasaurusRx/status/1152773708257353728?s=20

  140. Bruce of Newcastle

    Goodes will attend the premiere of The Australian Dream, a film by Stan Grant

    Ironically if Adam stands for Parliament he may have to first renounce British heritage under s44.

  141. jo

    From: AFL boss Gillon McLachlan fears Adam Goodes may be lost to football over racism.

    No loss.

  142. RobK

    I was a bit disappointed that Brian hadn’t carried out his threat.
    After you threatened him to defend yourself?

  143. Finally …
    A second documentary film about Holocaust survivor Adam Goodes …

    Wow, another fillum I’ll not watch.

  144. Speedbox

    stackja
    #3114544, posted on July 24, 2019 at 11:13 am

    …..the Federal government will ban tobacco sales?

    I’m wondering whether the North Sydney Council will try to ban tobacco sales in their patch. After all, if the consumption of cigarettes is banned, isn’t it ‘reasonable’ that the sale of the product also be banned?

    According to the NSC, over 80% of ratepayers support the banning of smoking. By the way, does this ban extend to vaping?

  145. Mother Lode

    Wow, another fillum I’ll not watch.

    Over the years I think I have saved thousands of dollars from the movies I have not watched.

  146. egg_

    may wish to watch Trainwreck on 9Go at 8:30pm.

    I think I have to wax my [email protected]

  147. Some History

    Re: Smoking ban in North Sydney.

    One of the many reasons why stupidity now reigns.

    Is there a civil liberties group highlighting that outdoor smoking bans have no basis. They’re just bullying. NSW does have a civil liberties group. They’re just fine with the ban, just as they were with the Martin Place ban. The head of the NSW civil liberties group sounds like an antismoker.

    Stephen Blanks, spokesperson for the NSW Council for Civil Liberties, told nine.com.au it appeared North Sydney Council had taken all reasonable steps before imposing the ban and that it did not breach anybody’s human rights.
    “Australia is going to see more of these CBD and council-wide smoking bans,” Mr Blanks said.
    “Over the years the ability to smoke in various places has been progressively restricted and reduced.”
    Smoking bans across large spaces are something the democratic majority can choose to do and Australian smokers will have to get used to this new reality, he said.

    https://www.9news.com.au/health/north-sydney-smoking-ban-where-in-sydney-is-smoking-banned-health-news/16c32aa7-ea9a-4a3c-9a4b-88dc73d71fc8

    The plonker from NSW Council for Civil Liberties that doesn’t comprehend assaults on civil liberties:

    https://imgur.com/at2vfHY

  148. Some History

    According to the NSC, over 80% of ratepayers support the banning of smoking. By the way, does this ban extend to vaping?

    I don’t think it’s “ratepayers”. It’s based on submissions made to the proposal. The 80% will be made up mostly of the activist “charities”, e.g., heart foundation, and other activists that use the heart foundation as their font of facts. Then there are assorted neurotics that believe they’re going to die if they catch a whiff of tobacco smoke out on the street. There is no attempt made to discern whether a view indicated in a submission has any coherent basis.

    Of 600 submissions to council about the proposed ban, 80 per cent were in favour. A nine.com.au poll found 70 per cent of respondents supported the ban, with 30 per cent against.

    https://www.9news.com.au/health/north-sydney-smoking-ban-where-in-sydney-is-smoking-banned-health-news/16c32aa7-ea9a-4a3c-9a4b-88dc73d71fc8

  149. Leigh Lowe:

    True.
    It’s a Little Golden Book, but a book nonetheless.
    And yes, more open than the Spud realises.

    It’s noy “Old Yeller” is it?

  150. Some History

    This from the era of “inclusion” and “diversity”.

    Smokers are set to take their last puff in Sydney’s second largest business district, with the North Sydney Council voting last night to bring in a smoking ban taking in the entire CBD.
    North Sydney Mayor Jilly Gibson confirmed to 9News that the vote was passed unanimously.
    “I am absolutely thrilled that it went through, I’ve been working on this for a long time,” Cr Gibson said.
    “There was actually a mood amongst the councillors, which I agree with, that we might try to extend it the whole municipality.”
    Speaking before the vote, Mayor Gibson said it was: “time for non-smokers to claim back the streets”.
    “We used to accept all sorts of things from smokers, smokers had all the rights,” she said.
    “Now I believe it’s the time of the non-smoker
    .

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/smoking-ban-north-sydney-council-vote-fines/78911275-55e0-4655-9204-4df83e8c85e5

    Jilly the nitwit bully is not speaking as a non-smoker (someone who does not smoke). She’s speaking as an antismoker, i.e., neurotic, tyrannical nut case.

  151. zyconoclast

    More racial diversity in U.S. police departments unlikely to reduce shootings: study

    (Reuters) – White police officers in the United States are no more likely to shoot dead minorities than black or Hispanic officers, undercutting the idea that increasing racial diversity in police departments would reduce those shootings, a study released on Monday said.

  152. thefrollickingmole

    Small victories:

    Roger Scruton has been reappointed head of the UK government housing body he was sacked from after being verballed by a woke journalist.

    Yes very good news, disgusting stitch up job.
    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/jul/23/roger-scruton-gets-job-back-after-regrettable-sacking

    Sir Roger Scruton has said that he was misrepresented and made to look as if he was making a “racist slur” about Chinese people following an interview with the New Statesman, which subsequently apologised to him and said that his views were not accurately represented.

    The Spectator turned Scruton’s sacking into a cause célèbre for conservatives, who insisted quotes in a New Statesman article – such as: “Each Chinese person is a kind of replica of the next one and that is a very frightening thing” – were part of a longer discussion by him about the power of the Chinese state to impose its will on citizens, rather than racism.

    In an apology, the New Statesman said that links to the original article were tweeted out with partial quotations from the interview – including a truncated version of a quotation regarding China.

    “We acknowledge that the views of Professor Scruton were not accurately represented in the tweets to his disadvantage. We apologise for this, and regret any distress that this has caused Sir Roger,” the magazine added.

  153. zyconoclast

    MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico set a new record for homicides in the first half of the year as the number of murders grew by 5.3% compared to the same period of 2018, fueled partly by cartel and gang violence in several states.

    Mexico saw 3,080 killings in June, an increase of over 8% from the same month a year ago, according to official figures. The country of almost 125 million now sees as many as 100 killings per day nationwide.

    The 17,608 killings in the first half of 2019 is the most since comparable records began being kept in 1997, including the peak year of Mexico’s drug war in 2011. Officials said 16,714 people were killed in the first half of 2018.

  154. zyconoclast

    Rotherham grooming gang: The child [email protected] brothers given £500k in legal aid
    THREE “pure evil” brothers have received up to £500,000 in legal aid after [email protected] children in Rotherham – while dozens of their victims have yet to receive any

  155. Some History:

    Is North Sydney an affluent area?

    You’ve spelled ‘effluent’ wrong.

  156. thefrollickingmole

    Is anybody finding it ironic that Bob brown started his “career” as a greenietick opposing renewable power and is likely to end it doing the same?

  157. Bruce in WA

    Don’t know if this has been posted before — I couldn’t find it.

    Anyway, it bears repeating.

    This is apparently from Epstein’s flight logs of “political” persons who (allegedly) went to his island.

    Obviously I can’t vouch for its veracity, but if it’s true …

  158. notafan

    Pope Francis is on the list

    That is very telling

    Francis became pope in 2013

    When did these flights happen?

  159. Speedbox

    Some History

    Well I just think it’s a f*cking sad indictment on this country. Yet another example of creeping totalitarianism by malevolent ‘do-gooders’ who manipulate their alleged importance to impose their will. Aided and abetted by special interest groups who crow at their ‘success’. Naturally, the media are silent.

    The ban doesn’t impact me – it is the principle.

    And as for the NSW guardian of civil liberties: Smoking bans across large spaces are something the democratic majority can choose to do and Australian smokers will have to get used to this new reality, he said.

    FMD. What a cop-out. I wonder what it will take to wake him from his slumber.

  160. mh:
    I watched that video of the JoeBiden predasauros kissing that girl – in the minute or so it took to run through, he must have locked lips with her over a dozen times. Jees – just once would have been too much…

  161. notafan

    Love to know what connection Epstein had with an obscure Argentian Archbishop back in the 00s

    the epstein list from the little black book back in 2015

  162. Some History

    It all makes sense now.

    On Monday July 22, a councillor for the North Sydney council will put a motion forward that they declare a Climate Emergency.

    We know that in the wake of a federal government that is doing next to nothing to fight the climate crisis, every day people in their communities have been rising up in their place to lead. To continue this wave of momentum, we need as many people as possible to attend the council meeting this coming Monday.

    Will you be there?

    WHEN: 6PM (for a 6:30PM community forum, 7:30PM council council meeting)
    WHERE: The North Sydney Council Chambers, 200 Miller Street, North Sydney

    If the motion passes, North Sydney could be the 30th Australian Jurisdiction to declare a Climate Emergency!

    https://secure.latest.facebook.com/events/337666183810851/

  163. Socrates at the Pub;

    Finally …
    A second documentary film about Holocaust survivor Adam Goodes …

    Wow, another fillum I’ll not watch.

    The last time I went to the piccies was to watch Saving Private Ryan.
    It doesn’t look like I’ll be going back for a loong time.

  164. notafan

    Love to know what connection Epstein had with an obscure Argentian Archbishop back in the 00s

    the epstein list from the little black book back in 2015

  165. Eyrie

    Winston: “So Mexico is fairly typical of a failed state with the citizenry unable to defend themselves against a criminal class the government has no ability or will to stop.”

    So Australia is fairly typical of a failed state with the citizenry unable to defend themselves against a criminal class the government has no ability or will to stop ” FIFY

  166. Eyrie

    It is called anarcho-tyranny. Throw the full weight of unjust law at normal citizens and let the crims go free.

  167. Speedbox

    Russia Today reports:

    Medical professionals in the US and UK are sounding the alarm about the growing use of “hormonal and surgical interventions” for children who are confused about their gender identity, saying that more studies are required.

    Members of the conservative childrens’ advocacy group the American College of Pediatricians (ACP) wrote a letter on Monday to the Surgeon General of the United States, warning about the effects of gender-reassignment surgeries and hormonal drugs on minors, saying such interventions have “not undergone long-term study.”

    The ACP called the issue a “grave public health concern” and said that the drastic methods have become the new “standard of care” in lieu of “ethical psychotherapy” for children and teens who present with gender dysphoria (GD).

    Medical treatment of children with GD often begins with the prescription of puberty blockers, which are given to halt normal onset of puberty. Next, the child is given “cross-sex hormones” – in other words, hormones which match their stated identity rather than their biologically assigned sex. At a later stage, the patients undergo gender-reassignment surgery.

    The medical warnings come as the UK’s only child gender clinic, the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), reported significant increases in the numbers of children seeking to transition to the opposite gender – an overwhelming majority of them (74 percent) being young girls seeking to transition to a male identity.

    The Sunday Times reported on the “surge” last month, noting that the majority (54 percent) of the children referred to the clinic are 14 or under. In the UK, 17 year-olds are now allowed to be seen in adult gender clinics and to independently consent to treatment. The newspaper also recalled that a “review” into the new wave of girls seeking to transition had been ordered by the former equalities minister Penny Mordaunt last year, but “little has been heard of it since.”

    Some recent reporting has also explored the phenomenon of the “detransitioners”; individuals who believed themselves to be transgender before changing their minds and deciding to transition back to their original biological gender. The detransitioners are thought to make up a very small number of the adult trans population.

    But the story seems to be different for children. A study in the Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry found that two-thirds of adolescent patients at a clinic in Amsterdam ended up identifying as their original birth-assigned gender. Another study, often called into question by trans activists, found that up to 80 percent of trans kids eventually identified as their birth sex. Canadian sex researcher James Cantor wrote in a blog post in 2016 that “only very few trans-kids still want to transition by the time they are adults.”

    No doubt this will soon be the lead news story in the Australian media. /sarc

  168. Mother Lode

    Obviously I can’t vouch for its veracity, but if it’s true …

    I wouldn’t.

    One, it is not the flight logs themselves but a compiled list – and that transcription process is pretty opaque.

    It looks more like a wish list of who someone would like sent to prison. The Pope (and more than a few of the others) are abominable people but calling them all p3d0s looks like something a school kid would do.

  169. Top Ender

    Is anybody finding it ironic that Bob brown started his “career” as a greenietick opposing renewable power and is likely to end it doing the same?

    Indeed. Bob started by opposing the nuclear power of USS Enterprise in Hobart in 1976.

    The ultimate renewable.

  170. notafan

    A list that doesn’t hold up to even mild scrutiny

    Gawker published Epstein’s little black book back in 2015

    Anyone can look at it by clicking through at the link I posted

  171. Some History:
    Remember the old bloke who when I asked “Where did the SS and Gestapo blokes come from?” and he replied “They were always there – they just got the opportunity to do what they always wanted to do.”
    Have a look at the people in the Civil Liberties Groups.
    They’re a uniform away from realising their power dream – to control others.

  172. Mother Lode

    If the motion passes, North Sydney could be the 30th Australian Jurisdiction to declare a Climate Emergency!

    Absurd.

    Nothing has happened to make it an emergency now but not, say, five years ago.

  173. notafan

    btw ‘petrolhead’ ‘gets his talking points from Get up

    just like Monty only better

  174. Some History

    Sydney City Council – you know, Clover Moore-Onn – that banned smoking in Martin Place has also declared a “climate emergency”.

  175. Bruce in WA

    Yes, after digging a bit deeper, I wouldn’t trust that list as anything other than a wish list.

    The complete manifest is archived here. It’s handwritten and difficult to decipher, but those with time to spare may like to poke around.

  176. Top Ender

    “Where did the SS and Gestapo blokes come from?”

    Hitler’s Willing Executioners, by Daniel Goldhagen, explains that well.

    From the Wiki, he argues that eliminationist antisemitism was the cornerstone of German national identity, was unique to Germany, and because of it ordinary German conscripts killed Jews willingly.

  177. Eyrie:

    It is called anarcho-tyranny. Throw the full weight of unjust law at normal citizens and let the crims go free.

    You’re preaching to the converted.

  178. JC

    Just get a load of these fucking free loaders on the ASX board. FMD. Good ol’Heather’s there clipping her coupon, providing proof, if it was ever needed, that capitalist economies provide enough surplus to provision even the least productive among us. Look who else is there… that bastion and advocate for the free enterprise system.. Wombat Whisperer. If there’s a coupon to be clipped Whisperer isn’t too far away. This is the absolute goose who went around the large mining companies telling them the commodity boom was never going to end….. it was secular

    , according to him.

    https://youtu.be/z0xXZcgh2Q8?t=22

    Unfuckingreal. Not one single entrepreneur… not a one.

  179. Perhaps it’s time for a further partitioning on the subcontinent.
    Obviously Pakistan is incapable of adequately protecting some of its citizens.

  180. Some History

    Give antismoking nut cases red-carpet access to useful-idiot legislatures and the result is antismoking claims of “hazard” become progressively more absurd and hysterical and demands become progressively more draconian and inhumane.

    Prohibition by “salami slices”. Here’s a brief history of the antismoking madness (Godber Blueprint) over the last few decades. It’s a slide down the slippery slope that antismoking fanatics claimed would never happen (i.e., lying).

    The first demand for a smoking ban was in the late-1980s concerning short-haul flights in the USA of less than 2 hours. At the time, the antismokers were asked if this was a “slippery slope” – where would it end? They ridiculed anyone suggesting such because this ban was ALL that they were after.
    Then they ONLY wanted smoking bans on all flights.
    Then the antismokers ONLY wanted nonsmoking sections in restaurants, bars, etc., and ensuring that this was ALL they wanted.
    Then the antismokers ONLY wanted complete bans indoors. That was all they wanted. At the time, no-one was complaining about having to “endure” wisps of smoke outdoors.

    While they pursued indoor bans, the antismokers were happy for smokers to be exiled to the outdoors. Having bulldozed their way into indoor bans, the antismokers then went to work on the outdoors, now declaring that momentary exposure to remnants of smoke in doorways or a whiff outdoors was a “hazard”, more than poor, innocent nonsmokers should have to “endure”.
    Then they ONLY wanted bans within 10 feet of entrance ways.
    Then they ONLY wanted bans within 20 feet of entrance ways.
    Then they ONLY wanted bans in entire outdoor dining areas.
    Then they ONLY wanted bans for entire university and hospital campuses and parks and beaches and city areas.
    Then they ONLY wanted bans for apartment balconies.
    Then they ONLY wanted bans for entire apartment (including individual apartments and apartment grounds) complexes.

    On top of all of this, there are now instances where smokers are denied employment, denied housing (even the elderly), and denied medical treatment. Smokers in the UK are denied fostering/adoption. Involuntary mental patients are restrained physically or chemically (sedation) rather than allow them to have a cigarette – even outside. In some countries there are also compounded extortionate taxes.

    At each point there was a crazed insistence that there was no more to come while they were actually planning the next ban and the brainwashing required to push it. The incessant claim was that they were not doing “social engineering” (prohibition) when the current antismoking crusade has been so from the outset, just like pretty well every previous antismoking crusade. There has been incessant (pathological) lying and deception. Many medically-aligned groups have been committed to antismoking – their smokefree “utopia” – since the 1960s, and are also in the pay of Pharma companies peddling their useless “nicotine replacement” products. They have prostituted their medical authority and integrity to chase ideology (this is exactly what occurred in the eugenics of early last century). All of it is working to a tobacco-extermination plan run by the WHO (dominated by the American “model”) and that most nations are now signed-up to (Framework Convention on Tobacco Control).

  181. JC

    Email to

    Investor Relations

    ASX Ltd.

    Not one single entrepreneur on the ASX board. Every single one is a coupon clipper or is there because the person uses the toilet in a squatting position rather than standing for at least for one function. Not a single one who has ever started his own firm. Incredible hubris. No wonder the real action these days is with private equity. Just sad.

    Regards

    JC… unfortunate indirect shareholder.

  182. Some History

    Prohibition by “salami slices”.

    Remember, it all began with, “All we want is smoking bans on short-haul flights. What’s unreasonable about that?”

  183. Speedbox

    Iran has moved to legalize the mining of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, recognizing the energy-consuming digital coin mining as a legitimate industry – and potentially a way around the US sanctions crippling its economy.

    “A mechanism to mine digital coins was approved by the government’s economic commission and will later be put to discussion at a cabinet meeting,” said Central Bank of Iran (CBI) Governor Abdolnaser Hemmati on Sunday.

    Government ministers are poised to vote on a plan to apply an exported electricity rate to crypto-mining “farms,” according to Deputy Minister of Energy Homayun Haeri. While Iran has been dubbed a “heaven for miners” due to its ultra-cheap, subsidized electricity, the free ride is coming to an end.

    “We do believe that the cryptocurrency industry should be recognized as an official industry in Iran, to let the country take advantage of its tax and customs revenues,” commission head Elyas Hazrati told Mehr News on Monday. “By generating cheap electricity, we can provide the required power for digital money miners in the country. The gained income can be used for purchasing foreign exchanges under US sanctions to remove the difficulties we are faced with.”

    The decision may serve as the ideal compromise between mercenary bitcoin miners, who move their crypto farms to Iran to take advantage of subsidies meant to supply households with cheap electricity, and anti-crypto hardliners, who want the practice banned altogether for exploiting those subsidies. While authorities were seizing thousands of bitcoin mining machines and cutting off power to crypto-mining operations as recently as last month, their apparent new embrace of the technology suggests they’ve come to terms with its utility as a (relatively) stable way for Iranians to store their assets, with US sanctions stoking inflation of the rial.

    Iran began taking steps toward launching its own cryptocurrency last year, concerned about the US’ ability to exert pressure on crypto exchanges, which have been forced to freeze or close accounts belonging to Iranians in the past.

  184. Fisky

    Excellent article by Jon Schweppe on the necessity of expunging libertarianism from the right.

    Sorry, Justin Amash — Libertarianism Is Canceled

    Amash’s sharp critique wasn’t surprising given the content of the conference, where hundreds of attendees issued a clarion call to the Republican Party and the conservative movement: It’s time to declare independence from libertarianism.

    ..

    In truth, libertarianism isn’t very far off from progressivism — both are supposedly meritocratic orthodoxies that result in the submission of an underclass to the rule of privileged elites. The two ideologies are fellow travelers. And conservatism should have nothing to do with either.

    We must continue to promote the great awakening against the libertarian movement, and expose it as a strategic Leftist asset!

  185. Entropy

    Mother Lode
    #3114628, posted on July 24, 2019 at 1:35 pm
    If the motion passes, North Sydney could be the 30th Australian Jurisdiction to declare a Climate Emergency!

    Absurd.

    Nothing has happened to make it an emergency now but not, say, five years ago.

    Also, since when is local government a “jurisdiction”. They are an instrument of the state government.

  186. 1735099

    You were in fact a POGO.

    Just noticed the AVV* (who claims service but is too frightened to allow it to be confirmed) making reference to my service in Admin platoon in 7 RAR as some kind of mortal insult. He’s a very strange man.
    You bet I was a POGO for a time – and very proud of it.
    I spent almost as much time doing useful stuff in Admin company as I did scrub bashing and ambushing in a rifle platoon.
    As a POGO, you were also far less likely to be cleaned up by the Yanks (as we almost did one night by an H & I fire mission) or to stand on an M-16. By 1970, the province was largely pacified. The mines, incidentally were dug up by the VC from our own barrier minefield. The military are often incompetent, but that debacle killed a great many Australians. The person responsible, in a just society, would have finished up in jail.
    The AVV*’ like many of his regular brethren, conceives of some kind of hierarchy in operational service; namely volunteer vs conscript.
    Nashos and Regs together achieved something that most others did not; with pride and dignity. Willingness didn’t come into it. Once you were there you did the job.
    Nashos generally did what they were asked. We didn’t have much of a choice after all. The Regs did, and we had the advantage of never having to regret that choice.
    You can read about it in Bruce Ravenscroft’s book. He makes specific reference to the incident (involving the volunteer) that I mentioned yesterday –

    I learned a great deal about the country when I was a POGO, as I often travelled shotgun on a Land Rover commuting between Nui Dat and ALSG at Vung Tau. In a rifle platoon you saw a lot of jungle, bamboo, secondary growth and dead paddy. It was not very interesting.
    My transfer to Admin Coy came after the RTA of the 14th intake people. That turnover was always an issue for the army.
    Once your NS obligation was up, you went home, leaving vacancies to be filled all over the place. It came as a complete (and pleasant surprise). I had never formally requested a transfer, but the boss always knew I wanted to work in Civil Affairs as a teacher. For all I know, he may have tried (unsuccessfully as it turned out) to facilitate this.
    He delayed my marching out so I could do R & C at Vung Tau with the remainder of my old section.
    It was a great way of saying goodbye to a group of men that I’d worked with for 12 months.
    The turnover was massive. Only one of the “originals” remained in my old section by the time the battalion returned on RTA in early 1971, as many were 14th or 15th intake. We Nashos pretty much all left 5 platoon as a bunch in July 1070.
    My old rifle platoon commander was very helpful in checking the manuscript of my book and I was just getting to know him all over again between 2008 and 2009. He’d drive from Nerang, and I’d come down from Toowoomba. We’d meet at the Beaudesert RSL and talk over the manuscript over a beer and lunch.
    He died of stomach cancer on 29th June 2010. He was a great leader who cared for his squad.

    My book is dedicated to his memory.

    *Alleged Vietnam veteran

  187. 1735099

    The Pope (and more than a few of the others) are abominable people but calling them all p3d0s looks like something a school kid would do.

    Must be a lot of school kids posting on Catallaxy.

  188. Speedbox

    Meanwhile, in India:

    A total ban on private cryptocurrencies has been approved by a government panel in India which also recommended a 10-year prison sentence for anyone dealing with unregulated digital assets.

    After nearly two years of work, the inter-ministerial committee (IMC), chaired by the economic affairs secretary, has submitted its final report to the government, together with draft legislation seeking to ban crypto trading in the country. It also recommended setting up a ‘Digital Rupee’ that would be issued by the Reserve Bank as legal tender.

    To stamp out crypto mining and trading, the panel in their draft ‘Banning of Cryptocurrency & Regulation of Official Digital Currency Bill’ suggested imposing a jail term of up to 10 years and/or a penalty of up to $7.25 million against any person who “directly or indirectly mines, generates, holds, sells, deals in, transfers, disposes of or issues cryptocurrency.”

    The need to produce clear guidance on cryptocurrencies became acute last April when the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) issued a notice banning financial institutions from participating in virtual currency transactions. In July 2018, the Supreme Court of India endorsed the ban, pending further review.

    Before the government decides on the fate of cryptocurrencies in India, the IMC report and the draft legislation will be reviewed by all relevant departments and regulatory authorities.

  189. mh

    Bob Numbers – the Jussie Smollett of Catallaxy.

  190. Memoryvault

    Have a look at the people in the Civil Liberties Groups.
    They’re a uniform away from realising their power dream – to control others.

    It’s so common it’s been featured in movies.
    Exhibit A – Delores Umbrige.

  191. Memoryvault

    In truth, libertarianism isn’t very far off from progressivism — both are supposedly meritocratic orthodoxies that result in the submission of an underclass to the rule of privileged elites. The two ideologies are fellow travelers.

    Milton Friedman was not Bastiat.
    Why do people keep confusing the two?

  192. Entropy

    Memoryvault
    #3114653, posted on July 24, 2019 at 2:39 pm
    Have a look at the people in the Civil Liberties Groups.
    They’re a uniform away from realising their power dream – to control others.

    It’s so common it’s been featured in movies.
    Exhibit A – Delores Umbrige

    Or that Walter Peck dude from the EPA in Ghostbusters.

  193. Infidel Tiger

    In truth, libertarianism isn’t very far off from progressivism — both are supposedly meritocratic orthodoxies that result in the submission of an underclass to the rule of privileged elites. The two ideologies are fellow travelers. And conservatism should have nothing to do with either.

    So very true.

  194. RobK

    Email to
    Investor Relations
    ASX Ltd.

    Well done, that man.

  195. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob. Cloaked in the glory of others.

    Deflect, deflect, the untermenschen can do the hard work, but but but but but.

    And Yanks bad. Don’t make me invent grid references again.

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You can read about it in Bruce Ravenscroft’s book.

    “There’s women from the Save Our Sons movement too, protesting from ignorance. Like many others, they obviously believe Nashos are forced to fight against their will, but this is not the case. I can’t speak for other Corps, but in infantry no – one who’s not willing is sent to the front line. We think too much of our own skin and the hesitation of someone who’s not properly prepared and willing to be there can cost us our lives.”

    Bruce Ravenscroft, “Contact – Wait Out: A Vietnam diary.” Page 21.

  197. John Constantine

    Damian Drum, Nationals Party Whip:
    “To try and tell Australia that the lower lakes of Alexandrina and Albert… have been fresh always, is clearly wrong, and we need to have the Murray Darling Basin Authority come out and acknowledge that.”

    “I don’t know why we haven’t had more of an outrage about this 2009 report… the whole meaning of the history of the lower lakes was changed.”

    “I think if that was the science that was used to create (calculate) those quantities of water (The 2,750GL)… then we need to have a look at that and we need to look at different quantities because the science is different.” Damian Drum.

    “The vast majority of mainstream media outlets have been more interested in fish kills… than they’ve been in the health of our farmers.”

    Say him sweat when he said this on Boltas.

    Their billion dollar abc is doubling down on the fake news to protect rewilding and decolonialisation.

    Their turnbullites with his smartest man in the room mentality squirmed through a loophole to use a signed transnational convention on the rights of the ducks of the Coorong to overturn the constitution and seize the power to declare the clearances of the racist nazi irrigation settlements of the murray darling.

    Windmills, the Murray Darling debacle, the end of the Snowy irrigation scheme, the obsolete before finished NBN, the submarines.

    Their turnbull squandered money on a scale approaching the insanity of the godless commo victorian state revolutionary regime.

    Comrades.

  198. Memoryvault

    Or that Walter Peck dude from the EPA in Ghostbusters.

    Another good example, Entropy.
    I’ve got a theory that here in the real world they all become parking inspectors.

  199. 1735099

    And Yanks bad

    Not “bad”, Gomer – but naive, arrogant and incompetent in that particular conflict.

  200. Entropy

    The real action for ambitious meddlers from the meddler class is in climate change policy these days. You can wield it to justify any kind of law you want to impose on others, like an OverPowered superhero.

  201. 1735099

    That’s from Ravo’s diary prior to arriving in Vietnam, as I recall.
    Someone’s borrowed my copy, but you can find his account of the reg throwing his rifle on the ground and refusing to budge in the chapter covering our bunker contact on or about 23rd April.
    Dig it up.
    It makes interesting reading.

  202. Infidel Tiger

    Margaret Fulton brown bread.

  203. Memoryvault

    Again true, Entropy. But they will jump on any available wagon.
    Anything from anti-smoking to banning disposable plastic shopping bags.
    It invariably ends in disaster.

  204. John Constantine

    The Weekly Times
    3 hrs ·

    Young cattle prices are forecast to soar more than 300c/kg above today’s rates — as China runs out of protein and Australia’s herd nears a 30-year low

    The protein gap from the chicom pig plague might not see every cow in australia eaten, but every cheap cow in south america will go to China, and that echoes through all markets.

    Lot of breeding females, cow and ewe will get the chop before all this is over.

    Enjoy your kale.

    Komrades.

  205. Memoryvault

    Lot of breeding females, cow and ewe will get the chop before all this is over.

    That’s why God gave us chooks, John.

  206. Shy Ted

    Warringah needs those windmills more than ever. Zali Steggall wants the gee hardys back.
    But they’ll fry in the climate murgency!

  207. Infidel Tiger

    That’s why God gave us chooks, John.

    Chicken is an abomination.

    Righteous people eat pork, lamb and beef.

  208. mh

    We’ll always have Donald Trump’s House Of Wings

  209. mh

    Pork is my least favourite meat.

    Unless it’s a German pork sausage.

  210. Memoryvault

    Righteous people eat pork, lamb and beef.

    Not for much longer, IT.
    Leastways, not on my budget.

    (But then I was never particularly righteous).

  211. Boambee John

    Speedbox at 1321

    And as for the NSW guardian of civil liberties: Smoking bans across large spaces are something the democratic majority can choose to do and Australian smokers will have to get used to this new reality, he said.

    FMD. What a cop-out. I wonder what it will take to wake him from his slumber.

    Sybil liberties groups usually get quite uptight about any suggestion that the “tyranny of the majority” is acceptable.

  212. Tel

    And conservatism should have nothing to do with either.

    Conservativism is simply a love of whatever the Progressives were doing 30 years ago.

    Sometimes that might stretch out to 50 years, depending on how long the old people hang around reminding people that the idea came from Progressives.

    For example, the conservatives have recently become obsessive over income inequality. Just like the Progressives were wringing their hands about that must have been 1980.

  213. JC

    Have they done something to milk in the past few months in Melbourne? It tastes disgusting – all brands do. Have they changed the feed because of the dire situation with climate change?

    It’s the milk at home and also at cafes, which makes me think something has occurred with the feed. Coffee tastes dis… gusting.

  214. JC

    Artie

    That’s not real, right?

  215. Memoryvault

    Zinc deficiency.

  216. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Ho ho.

    Good times here. Amazing this blog outlived most others in Aus. politics. It’s a great place and praise be upon him, the great Soon.

    1. Gomer Pyle, whom I called Gomer Pyle, believe that someone else calling him Gomer Pyle, is calling someone else Gomer Pyle.

    2. You have to be pretty disingenuous (IT, FIsk, naughty boys) to slam Ben Shapiro at EVERY opportunity then declare some no-name article on the daily caller as the ultimate truth as to why a simple belief in liberty as a guiding principle is wrong.

    3. R.L., the monarchy doesn’t protect us from a damned thing. The governor-general now is the ARM, Turnbullian appointed President in all but name. As great as some of the Australian constitution is, it is also very flawed and the legislature, government and judiciary ignore it as much as they conveniently can.

    4. The Economist went really bad around 2010. Helen says around 2004. Was it W that sent them mad?

    5. Thanks W? The moral case to invade Iraq was fine, but what about the practical side? This has constantly been the libertarian position. “Libertarians are silly, evil and their ideas are just wrong”…no, prove it.

    6. JC the rot starts early. I’ve seen some people get over-promoted in many fields outside their competence in unlisted decent-sized companies. In the ASX listed ones, gender plays too strong a role; you probably haven’t looked for a job in three decades but look at some major firms like CBA or BHP; as woke as a man with three coffees under his belt and the full glare of the sun in his eyes.

    If you own a good asset, you necessarily don’t need to manage it well…at least for a while, until the competition destroys you. This country has had no Carl Icahn, Lee Iaccoca, Jack Welch or Larry the Liquidator. We probably need one.

  217. Speedbox

    Sybil liberties groups usually get quite uptight about any suggestion that the “tyranny of the majority” is acceptable.

    Perhaps I’m misinterpreting your comment but do you mean the civil liberties groups would be at ease with the elections in Germany in 1933?

    (I know I’m drawing a long bow to compare a smoking ban to pre-war Germany but the ‘tyranny of the majority’ principle is the same – namely that a majority approved the political rise to power of the Na zi party).

  218. Infidel Tiger

    It’s an SNL skit.

    Until he beat Hillary, everyone loved DJT.

  219. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Conservativism is simply a love of whatever the Progressives were doing 30 years ago.

    Sad but true; but fortunately, it doesn’t have to be like this.

    Conservatism is arguably a Catholic concept and progressivism is a protestant concept. Go back to the sources: Aquinas on one hand and the early 20th century reformed churches on the other.

  220. JC

    It’s an SNL skit.

    Until he beat Hillary, everyone loved DJT.

    He’s God. Trump is God.

  221. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    And as for the NSW guardian of civil liberties: Smoking bans across large spaces are something the democratic majority can choose to do and Australian smokers will have to get used to this new reality, he said.

    These people are frauds who should know better, re Martin Niemoller.

  222. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Dear god Sinc plz ban these nightmarish clickbait links our own posters make.

  223. notafan

    Trump wings is kinda funny

    was there a backstory?

    I got the apprentice reference but otherwise seems pointless

  224. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    1735099
    #3114665, posted on July 24, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    And Yanks bad

    Not “bad”, Gomer – but naive, arrogant and incompetent in that particular conflict.

    Wrong, muppet. You’re Gomer. I was the first one to call someone that here.

    I do so because I respect your privacy.

    Now, do you prefer Gomer Pyle or Walter Peck?

    “Yes, it’s true. This man has no dick.”

  225. JC

    There hasn’t been anything from the state, city of federal tax authorities Trump owes on taxes. However, the Congressional D’rats want to see his returns. They are trying to do this by stealth – by going through NY State, see what he’s returned there and obviously calculate his federal filings. The D’rats are total fucking scum.

    Trump Sues House Panel, New York Officials to Protect State Tax Returns

    President Trump sued the U.S. House Ways and Means Committee and New York state officials, seeking to protect his state tax returns from being turned over to the congressional committee.

  226. notafan

    I was bemused by the conservatives now want to sort the gender pay gap

    Since when?

    Most of us don’t even ‘believe’ in it

  227. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    That low rent Shapiro coat tail rider article about libertarians and progressives looks kind of silly now the new UK PM (Cons.) has brought the mythical gender wage gap to the fore.

    I’m generous enough to grant that the mainstream conservative vehicles are pretty well totally compromised.

  228. Dr Faustus

    I don’t remember my family’s WW2 diggers, or their mates, reminiscing about the minutia of duty in Europe and North Africa. In fact they barely spoke about the experience, even amongst themselves. After 50 years they all seemed to have developed other interests and preoccupations.

    There must have been something wrong with them.

  229. JC

    Barr’s got a huge set and he’s incredibly smart too.

    Justice Department to Open Broad, New Antitrust Review of Big Tech Companies
    Inquiry signals Barr’s deep interest in tech sector, poses threat to companies such as Facebook, Google, Amazon, Apple

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/justice-department-to-open-broad-new-antitrust-review-of-big-tech-companies-11563914235

  230. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    My grandfather, whom I never met, was reputed to NEVER have spoken about the war, except on ANZAC Day, which is funny because he was a 10-pound pom.

    My grandmother only started opening up about it after she hit her late 80’s, unlike granddad, she was a civilian.

    But hey. Granddad’s record at the IWM and his service medals must have all have been BS.

    Enough.

  231. notafan

    BoJo is a true conservative now?

  232. JC

    Sometimes you just think… WTF.

    Apparently, Barr’s dad was the school principal who hired Jeffrey Epstein at Dalton, a NYC private school, to teach math and physics… in the 70s.

  233. Shy Ted

    ScoMo could do to read that Delingpole article in Breitbart. Not hopeful he will.

  234. 1735099

    There must have been something wrong with them.

    No, the soldier’s experience is universal.
    Back then, lots of other realities were also never spoken about – domestic violence, homosexuality, child abuse to name a few.
    Perhaps if they had been, we might have been a bit further down the track than we are in dealing with them.
    Conservatives, of course will avoid/deny tough issues at ever opportunity.
    They don’t enjoy being confronted with reality.

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