Mueller “was not about finding the truth”


DAZED AND CONFUSED

The most obnoxious part of the “testimony” is how deceitful the Democrats remain. They restate their accusations without evidence from Mueller’s testimony just as there was none in The Report itself. The above is from Drudge. This is from Instapundit.

MUELLER SAYS HE IS ‘NOT FAMILIAR’ WITH FUSION GPS, THE FIRM BEHIND THE STEELE DOSSIER:

Mueller revealed his surprising lack of familiarity with the firm during an exchange with Ohio Rep. Steve Chabot, a Republican member of the House Judiciary Committee.

“When you talk about the firm that produced the Steele reporting, the name of the firm that produced that was Fusion GPS, is that correct?” Chabot asked.

“I’m not familiar with that,” said Mueller, while scouring through his 448-page report of the Russia probe.

“Let me just help you. It was. It’s not a trick question or anything. It was Fusion GPS,” said Chabot.

And from Andrew McCarthy: With Collusion Collapse, Public Loses Interest in Mueller Theatrics.

Mueller seems to have lost interest as well: ‘The years have clearly taken a toll:’ Reporters from NBC, NYT question health of Robert Mueller.

Mueller is such a weasel! Limited questions from every area that reveal just how deceitful he has been. Madly, the accusation is that Trump ran for President so that he could build a hotel in Moscow. Worse than pathetic. And Alexander Downer makes a feature appearance!

 

 

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202 Responses to Mueller “was not about finding the truth”

  1. Jannie

    “I therefore will not be able to answer questions about certain areas that I know are of public interest. For example, I’m unable to address questions about the initial opening of the FBI’s Russia investigation, which occurred months before my appointment, or matters related to the so-called Steele dossier,” Mueller said. dailycaller

    I read that to mean that he was aware of the Steele dossier, but he is not going to admit that it was the source of the collusion allegation. That may be clarified with DoJ investigations into the use of the Steele dossier for FISA court surveillance warrants.

    Whatever, Mueller was never going to give anything away, especially to the Democratic controlled congress who will limit the questioning GoP members are allowed in their allotted 5 minutes. Note the number of times he delays as he asks for questions to be clarified and repeated. But if the next Congressional elections produce a Republican majority, in 2021 Mueller will be called back to answer hard questions without a sympathetic Chairman to protect him.

  2. Tintarella di Luna

    But if the next Congressional elections produce a Republican majority, in 2021 Mueller will be called back to answer hard questions without a sympathetic Chairman to protect him.

    And the reason the Democrats have a majority in Congress is because the Mueller investigation was dragging on so that Trump was still under investigation for something of which he was not part as the delayed report found. The collusion was between Mueller and the Mule.

  3. jupes

    If anyone was in doubt about the bias of Mueller, then his performance before Congress has shown what a witch hunt his stupid investigation truly was.

    Now John H. Durham should hit the ground running and start sending subpoenas to the whole corrupt lot of them.

  4. a happy little debunker

    To be unaware of whom Fusion GPS was, is astonishing for a man charged with investigating how Russia interfered in their election & the links between Trump and Russia.

  5. David Lentz

    Robert Mueller’s role may have been more analogous to an editor rather than a reporter. While he was not expected to write the actual report, he was expected to be familiar with it and to approve it. Mueller has move the ball back from who wrote the Weissman Report to whether Mueller even read the Weissman reported before he signed it.

  6. rickw

    And Alexander Downer makes a feature appearance!

    It would be a nice wake up call for Australia’s Politicians and Bureaucrats to see Downer in orange overalls.

  7. Iampeter

    Mueller “was not about finding the truth”

    So why did conservatives allow this investigation to take place?

    Seems like a lot of blaming of Democrats for taking advantage of conservative incompetence.

    It’s the not the Democrats fault that when conservatives are in office it’s still the Democrats running everything.

  8. Up The Workers!

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

    Did the outrageous deceit start before Juliar Gillard, former Australian Prime Spin-ster, went over as the Australian Left’s renowned expert in truth-mishandling and fact-tickling and the high-capacity shovelling of bovine excrement, to assist Killary KKKlinton in her marvellous 2016 Presidential Election Victory (The U.S.’s “Unloseable Election”)?

    Or was Juliar attracted from afar, like blue-bottle blow-flies are to a steaming pile of dog’s droppings, by the vast torrent of lies, fraud, theft and deceit?

    Or are lies, fraud, deceit and criminal behaviour just a natural output of the Left – they demonstrably go together like a Leftard’s hand and a taxpayers’ pocket.

    The geography might be different, but the awful suffocating stink is exactly the same.

  9. I_am_not_a_robot

    Reverse onus:

  10. a happy little debunker

    Finding number 1
    We can exonerate Trump from the commission of a criminal conspiracy.

    Finding number 2
    We cannot exonerate Trump, wholly as a matter of process, that he committed a criminal obstruction of justice.

    One of these is a weasel worded lie.

  11. Ainsley Hayes

    Good one getting post linked by Insty!

    That line about Fusion GPS, wow. It seems everything was outside his purview including interviewing the prof who apparently started it all. He was another stooge and Andy Weissmann wrote his report I guess.

    Just waiting for the Pelosi presser to start and the room is like a Democrat rally, empty seats and low energy.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle

    David Harsanyi’s article is a really good clear summary of how Mueller’s testimony went. Not well.

    Robert Mueller’s Testimony Has Been A Complete Disaster For Democrats (via Powerline’s picks)

    Read the whole thing.

  13. C.L.

    Ahahahahahaha …

    Michael [email protected]

    A frail old man, unable to remember things, stumbling, refusing to answer basic questions…I said it in 2017 and Mueller confirmed it today — All you pundits and moderates and lame Dems who told the public to put their faith in the esteemed Robert Mueller — just STFU from now on

  14. PB

    This was always about the process, not about the outcome.

  15. mh

    How exactly did Deep Stater Alexander Downer make a “feature appearance”?

    Anyone got details?

  16. Ellen of Tasmania

    David Harsanyi’s article is a really good clear summary of how Mueller’s testimony went. Not well.

    Not if you listen to the reporting on BBC & ABC. Trump bad. Trump would be charged (with ???) if he wasn’t POTUS.

    We know people who only ever listen to MSM and are ready and willing to believe the worst of Trump and all his deplorable voters. The really sad thing about dialogue in this day and age is that there is none.

    Just listen to Rep Aynna Pressley – it’s breath-taking in its absurdity. Utterly racist in its connotations. Can you imagine what would happen if someone said, “We don’t need any more white faces that aren’t prepared to be a white voice; we don’t need any more Christian faces that aren’t prepared to be a Christian voice”?

    No logic, no reason, no truth, no balance, no fairness, no sense.

  17. thefrollickingmole

    Its allready done exactly what it was supposed to do.

    Tie up Trump for his first term responding to bullshit.

    Unless the people who did this are punished it will become a regular feature of Democrat politics.

  18. mh

    How much has this farce raised the US national debt by?

  19. Up The Workers!

    Hmmm…decisions, decisions.

    Which came first – the mule or its Mueller?

  20. C.L.

    Zoe Daniels:
    Five things we learned from Robert Mueller’s testimony on Donald Trump’s links to Russia.

    This is her actual list … not a joke:

    1. Mueller refuted Trump’s claim that he was exonerated

    2. Mueller said Trump could still be charged with obstruction of justice, then clarified

    3. Democrats got a few soundbites…

    4. …and so did Republicans

    5. In the end, it probably won’t matter much

    That’s what Zoe learned.
    Everybody else learned that Mueller …

    1. was dazed and confused
    2. was not the author of his own report
    3. could no explain why he didn’t pursue actual collusion between the Democrats and Moscow
    4. refused to discuss the Democrat Party’s Steele Dossier (purchased from Vladimir Putin)
    5. lied about his friendship with James Comey

  21. dover_beach

    That’s what Zoe learned.

    She is starting to get too incompetent even for the ABC.

  22. dover_beach

    You know, I might even tune in to Planet America this week and see how those two clowns try and spin this one too.

  23. JohnL

    Did he or did not he “exonerated” Trump?
    There will be thousands of words written, many, may “interviews” and opinions aired. It will give the media the fodder for a while and give the politicians something to do. But Trump cut through it with one short sentence:
    “Muller did not exonerate me because it was not his job to exonerate”.

  24. The BigBlueCat

    Mueller was unimpressive … the Demonrats can’t be proud of the report or Mueller’s testimony. At best, they have a reason to consider a charge obstruction, but that will be difficult to prosecute. Even on CNN’s coverage (which I watched on the hotel TV here in Vietnam), various analysts found Mueller’s testimony sketchy, unreliable, rambling and often incoherent. He was clearly partisan, and clearly did not know the content of his own report.

  25. mh

    … various analysts found Mueller’s testimony sketchy, unreliable, rambling and often incoherent. He was clearly partisan, and clearly did not know the content of his own report.

    Just what we would expect from someone who served as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation from 2001 to 2013.

  26. mh

    You know, I might even tune in to Planet America this week and see how those two clowns try and spin this one too.

    Impeach lotto? Carpe?

  27. Muddy

    This changes nothing, because so many still haven’t grasped the ‘truth’ that this is a propaganda battle. Other than President Trump, most of us seem to believe that it is enough to wait until our enemies trip themselves up. But they have tripped themselves up, many times. Has anyone other than those looking for it, heard or seen it? No, because we have not even stepped onto the field in the propaganda battle. Forget about the distracted masses, who matter only in relation to the filter of the feral media; what matters are the decision-makers. When they see only the sure-footedness of one side dominating the field, they know that the distracted masses also only see the same image, as projected by the all-powerful filter. Therefore, there is no need for the decision-makers to countenance contrasting views. There are no threats to them, hence no motivation or impetus to change the status quo. ‘Our’ side – such as it is – have only random, weedy, ball-boys standing on the sidelines, reacting to the big plays. We have a negligible presence. There is no competition. When we imagine that waiting patiently for the other side to go A-over due to a divot, and expect them to stay down, and surrender … that truly is delusional. The ancient tactic of letting your enemy trip themselves up was never intended to be used passively, in isolation.

  28. cohenite

    To call mueller a rabbit in headlights is to insult all rabbits.

    If prosecutions don’t follow soon though all this farce will be for naught. You could fire a gun into the air and hit a guilty swamp rat so things had better start moving soon.

  29. AndrewWA

    Well said Mr Ratcliffe.

  30. Louis Hissink

    They Democrats aren’t deceitful, they actually believe all those memes.

  31. Wozzup

    One Democrat supporter gasped (inaccurately) on Twitter:
    “…And there was rarely a time when he even paused for a second after a question was asked. There was little searching in his eyes for answers. He rarely looked at notes.”

    But quite apart from the inaccuracy of this statement, I ask,: How often do you need notes to intone “That was not within my purview” or “I am not aware of that” or “I do not remember” or “I am unable to answer that question”? Or even worse try to answer the question then get it wrong on the facts and need to be corrected based on the contents of his own report.

    Still not sure why he needed one of his minions to back him up. Perhaps to prod him in the ribs should he fall asleep.

  32. Behind Enemy Lines

    Muddy
    #3115144, posted on July 25, 2019 at 10:38 am
    This changes nothing, because so many still haven’t grasped the ‘truth’ that this is a propaganda battle. Other than President Trump, most of us seem to believe that it is enough to wait until our enemies trip themselves up. . . . . There are no threats to [the political decision-makers], hence no motivation or impetus to change the status quo. . . . The ancient tactic of letting your enemy trip themselves up was never intended to be used passively, in isolation.

    I don’t hold out much hope for the US continuing to exist as a single country united under a form of representative democracy, but if it’s to happen then the seditionists backing this slow-rolling coup attempt must be punished with the rope.

  33. Up The Workers!

    You can lead a Mueller to water, but you can’t make him think!

  34. Mark M

    You knew it had to happen …

    Hitler Discovers Robert Mueller Knows Nothing –
    In the bunker, the Resistance learns the truth about Robert Mueller’s testimony.

    https://www.captiongenerator.com/1467792/Hitler-Discovers-Robert-Mueller-Knows-Nothing

  35. C.L.

    At one stage while I was watching, Mueller was asked about the very first sentence of his report.
    His eyes darted leftward and he grasped for his copy.

    The first sentence.

    That’s not something for which even Forrest Gump would require a yellow post-it.

  36. Kneel

    So why did conservatives allow this investigation to take place?
    Obviously, you have no grasp of practical politics if you need to ask such a question.
    Hardly surprising from the resident leftist troll.

  37. Fisky

    m0000000nty! Where are you???

  38. Zatara

    Lets face it, Mueller didn’t write the report, he only signed what his masters directed him to sign.

  39. I watched both committee hearings while working my way through some cheap plonk.
    Anyone who has been following this saga via The Conservative Treehouse knew that Mueller was just a figurehead and that he didn’t even choose his team. The team chose him.

    I thought the following were interesting:
    * Mueller first lied, then partially corrected his answer about his relationship with James Comey. Mueller first said they were just collegues, then when pressed said they were friends. In fact they’ve been very close for about 2 decades. Comey thought of Mueller as a father figure.

    * Mueller threw doubt on the accuracy of the Bill Barr summary of the SC report, even though he and Rod Rosenstein helped write it. I don’t think Barr will be happy that his integrity has been put into doubt by Mueller. It will be interesting to see what Barr does about it.

    * Mueller lied about the reason why he didn’t make a decision about the obstruction portion of his report during the early testimony, then he corrected himself during the later testimony.

    Note to those who haven’t been following this as closely as I have (I got nuffin better to do)
    An obstruction case was opened by acting FBI Director (at the time) McCabe the day after Trump fired Comey and McCabe became acting director.
    How can Trump obstruct if he thought he wasn’t under an investigation?
    McCabe is the man who said (in leaked emails/text messages?) “First we fuck Flynn, then we fuck Trump.”

    This whole ‘Muh Russia’ saga shows The USA is but half a step away from being a banana republic.

  40. Mother Lode

    This changes nothing, because so many still haven’t grasped the ‘truth’ that this is a propaganda battle. Other than President Trump, most of us seem to believe that it is enough to wait until our enemies trip themselves up. But they have tripped themselves up, many times.

    I think it is useful to remember that not everyone who voted Hillary (or Obama) is the same sort of person as the four ferals, the ear-bleeding dullards at CNN, or the thought experiment journalists* at the NYT. Most voted for the Democrats because that is just what they have done, they tend to agree with policies (such as thinking immigration should be easier but not necessarily open borders)

    Not everyone who voted Democrat is blindly in a thrall. The Fad Four will be putting people off, the behaviour of senators beating the clearly dead horse of Cowwusion, and the sight of Presidential hopefuls in a bidding war to pillage your wealth and tear up your community will lead a lot of people to simply not turn up to vote in 2020. Maybe even deliberately hold their nose and vote for what they consider the lesser of two evils because the greater is terrifying.

    Remember the tsunami that was supposed to be support for the Hilderbeest in 2016? Press hype and normal people do not exist in the same universe.

    *You remember Cat from Red Dwarf? Started as a cat but, over countless generation in an environment designed around the human form, evolved a human form to interact with its environment. At the NYT they take retarded millenials and put them at journalist’s desks – let’s see what happens after a million years.

  41. mh

    A cry for help

    Bette Midler
    @BetteMidler
    Mr Trump rapes us all with impunity
    Now he’s Pres he get big time immunity.
    Mr Mueller’s a kind man
    But he isn’t a blind man
    And #Trump is a cancer on the community.

    Sorry.
    7:52 AM · Jul 25, 2019

  42. C.L.

    Mr Trump rapes us all with impunity

    Yeah but we were asking for it the way we’re all dressed.

  43. Leigh Lowe

    Mark M

    #3115172, posted on July 25, 2019 at 11:13 am

    You knew it had to happen …

    Hitler Discovers Robert Mueller Knows Nothing –

    Bwah, ha, ha, ha.
    “What was the point of getting that stupid emo giraffe Comey fired in the first place?”

  44. Arky

    Mueller’s performance looked like a scene from a Naked Gun movie with Leslie Nielsen.
    I kept expecting him to get up and fall through a window while holding a concrete dildo.

  45. Rob MW

    Post Muller:

    Nancy calls for the bourbon
    Jerry discovers his dick don’t work whilst Muller is standing on his sack
    Pencil Neck scratches his ass while howling at the moon
    The ‘Squad’ calls Muller a white supremacist and want their Benjamin’s back
    Elijah buys a wig and sunglasses and becomes a Republican
    CNN does a 24 hr loop of the top 100 Russian themed chart-toppers from 1985
    Downer begs Morrison to revoke his passport so he can’t be extradited to the US
    Vlad pisses his pants laughing
    Trump whistle’s Dixie whilst yanking Chuck’s chain

  46. Lee

    So why did conservatives allow this investigation to take place?
    Obviously, you have no grasp of practical politics if you need to ask such a question.
    Hardly surprising from the resident leftist troll.

    He seems to think that conservatives (and Republicans) are all-powerful, yet they allow themselves to be dominated by the left (and Democrats)!

  47. billie

    oh Democrats, how embarassment

    trying to stop a king tide of shadenfreude coming in

    delicious

  48. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    youtube seems to be prioritising Democrat snippets from the testimony at the expense of republican

  49. Dr Fred Lenin

    This whole no matter where they are political witchunt stinks of the decromat fascist usual overegged plot ,the left are full of little nasty plots no matter where they live , usually over complicated , after all you dont do a BA politics or Socialist “work”,all that hanging about at uni wasnt in vain .
    With a bit of luck Barr might indicte mueller and his crew of haters for criminal conspiricy and slot the bastards . Followed by coney mc cabe etc and of course obama and the clintons. A long long jail term would be a good lesson to politicians .
    MAKE AMERICA CLEAN AGAIN .!

  50. Zatara

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3115296, posted on July 25, 2019 at 1:40 pm

    Miz Lasko puts the whole obstruction thing to bed in 3 quick questions from 2:00 to 2:30.

    30 seconds. But the Dems will keep searching for a dead horse to beat there forever.

  51. Chris M

    Robert Mueller raped me! Whilst I can’t prove this with clinical or circumstantial evidence no-one can prove his innocence. He even looks guilty right.

  52. I say again, it doesn’t matter what the Left does, they always take things too far and it always comes back to bite them in the arse.

  53. Zatara

    The Republicans (see Matt Gaetz video above) missed some huge opportunities when Mueller was making his “not in my purview” claims.

    Mueller’s letter of appointment specifically stated that he was to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian government’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election – and any other matter which arose from that investigation.

    So those questions regarding the Steele dossier, Mifsud, FISA Courts, etc. etc. most certainly were squarely within his purview. He even mentioned them in his report for crying out loud!

    Amazing the none of the Republicans pressed him on that but with only 5 minutes to question him I guess they had to stick to the script. Apparently none of the brain trust dreamed he would pull that particular excuse and nobody was briefed to attack it.

  54. Buccaneer

    Mueller looks like he’s realised he’s a patsy for political interference. Regardless of who wins the narrative from here Mueller’s career will be remembered for nothing other than incompetence. Should the Dems prevail, he’s the guy who fluffed pinning Trump. Should the Republicans prevail (which seems likely) he’ll be the guy who helped an unethical partisan investigation of an incoming president on a grand scale.

  55. Jo Smyth

    There is zilch coverage of the Mueller testimony in the Australian. Cameron Stewart must be in a comatosed state of shock. A shocking outcome for the media. I try never to watch the ABC but wonder if they’ve covered it at all ?

  56. dover_beach

    monty, how is Muellerween going?

  57. Shane

    rickw

    #comment-3114993
    Enough of those depraved thought porn images, once seen, never to be forgotten.
    “…Downer in a yellow pants suit…”
    I am still trying to purge my memory of Downer in fishnet stockings, even after all these years.

    https://cecaust.com.au/sites/default/files/2019-05/five-eyes-fishnets.pdf

    What is it with South Australia?
    I am starting to wonder if there ever was such a thing as normal, or was Enid Blyton just smoking some weird [email protected] back when she wrote those formative aspirational books on the idealised childhood that some of us found influential.
    Maybe the following were just too smart to be ever influenced by them or could it be the simple lack of a healthy leavening of a convict heritage in South Australia’s founding that leads to the production of not just a number of serial killers, a shambolic, deluded electrical power system, but more importantly, the likes of Sarah HY, Chrissy Pyne, Alex Downer, Julie Bishop, not to forget that expert in passive aggresiveness, Wong with that so femine hairdo of hers, ..or our very own Julia G .

  58. 1735099

    “Muller did not exonerate me because it was not his job to exonerate”.

    He’s changed his tune (again).
    From “Completely exonerated” to “It wasn’t his job to exonerate me”.
    The truth, however, remains the same.
    Trump was not exonerated on the charge of obstruction.
    End of story (until 2021 or 2025).

  59. Up The Workers!

    If the Dimocrat stooge Mueller looks sick and is dazed and confused, I wonder whether he has been gargling the same Little Rock hootch that KKKillary has been swigging daily for the last 3 years?

    I know that she swears that it is just gravity being vindictive, but I suspect that its totally an ‘inside job’.

  60. dover_beach

    Trump was not exonerated on the charge of obstruction.

    There was no charge of obstruction. There is no need to exonerate even when there is a charge, only where there is a conviction. Here the matter did not even progress to there being a charge because there was simply nothing upon which to build a credible case of obstruction. This entire process was a miserable failure for the Democrats and their supporters.

    Sad.

  61. Dr Fred Lenin

    Chris M regarding mueller raping you ,has anyone exonorated him yet ?
    Exonorating ,the new black !

  62. a happy little debunker

    Trump was not exonerated on the charge of obstruction.
    End of story (until 2021 or 2025).

    Mueller’s job was to investigate and make findings on 2 issues.
    1. a criminal conspiracy
    2 obstruction of justice

    He declined to make a finding on the second citing his inability to even consider criminal charges, but happily made findings on the first – in which he had to consider criminal charges, but found no evidence of.

    This manifest contradiction speaks to the uneven application of principals of due process, presumption of innocence and DOJ policy and practice.

    The Guardian opines that Mueller is at his core a moralist and a patriot but you should question the morals and patriotism of a man who kept 4 innocent people in jail to protect a mass murderer turned informant.

    That this all happened under Mueller’s direct oversight – should make you further question his actions as a special prosecutor

  63. Trump was not exonerated on the charge of obstruction.

    You don’t know what the word means:

    Exoneration occurs when the conviction for a crime is reversed, either through demonstration of innocence, a flaw in the conviction, or otherwise. Attempts to exonerate convicts are particularly controversial in death penalty cases, especially where new evidence is put forth after the execution has taken place.

    There was no crime, there was no conviction. End. Of. Story.

  64. Zatara

    Trump was not exonerated on the charge of obstruction.

    And he never will be in the legal sense of the word as he will never be charged and tried for it.

    But hey, dream on about 2021 or 2025. If you think the Dems will expend what little political capitol they have left at that point pissing into the wind you should get a wager in now and beat the rush.

  65. 1735099

    Here the matter did not even progress to there being a charge because there was simply nothing upon which to build a credible case of obstruction

    You have not read the report.
    Just one extract –

    Obstructive act (p. 43): Trump asked for Comey’s loyalty and pressured Comey to “let this go” regarding the FBI investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. “In analyzing whether these statements constitute an obstructive act, a threshold question is whether Comey’s account of the interaction is accurate, and, if so, whether the President’s statements had the tendency to impede the administration of justice by shutting down an inquiry that could result in a grand jury investigation and criminal charge.” “[S]ubstantial evidence corroborates Comey’s account.”

    There’s plenty more.

  66. Zatara

    “In analyzing whether these statements constitute an obstructive act, a threshold question is whether Comey’s account of the interaction is accurate”

    Bwahahaha.

    Nice try.

  67. 1735099

    Can’t you read?

    “[S]ubstantial evidence corroborates Comey’s account.”

  68. Zatara

    Apparently you can’t.

    “In analyzing whether these statements constitute an obstructive act, a threshold question is whether Comey’s account of the interaction is accurate”

    Bolding makes all the difference.

  69. 1735099

    Bolding makes all the difference.

    Certainly does.
    “[S]ubstantial evidence corroborates Comey’s account.”

  70. dover_beach

    You have not read the report.

    You do not understand the term ‘exonerate’. The allegation never rose to the level of charge. A comprehensive failure, in other words. Still, you will always have Muellerween.

  71. You have got to love the media. The 4pm news:

    ‘Mueller has left the door open for criminal charges against Trump.’

  72. 1735099

    Stewart was not “asking questions”.
    He was on his own little “witch hunt”.
    It delivered a nothingburger.
    Pot and kettle….

  73. Buccaneer

    Numberwang, Donald Trump is trolling you

  74. 1735099

    You do not understand the term ‘exonerate’

    Forget my “understanding”. Consult a dictionary – “Exonerate” – definition, to clear, as of an accusation; free from guilt or blame.

    Consider how that sits with the following established facts –
    1. Trump asked for Comey’s loyalty and pressured him to “let this go” regarding the FBI investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.
    2. There was substantial evidence corroborating Comey’s account.
    On December 1, 2017, Flynn pleaded guilty to “willfully and knowingly” making “false, fictitious and fraudulent statements” to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia’s ambassador.
    So it’s OK for the President to pressure a public official to drop his agency’s investigation because it might prove embarrassing, even though that investigation, when completed, resulted in a conviction?
    Apparently, there is no “guilt” or “blame” in that course of action.
    That’s a helluva way to run an administration.
    The term “amoral” springs to mind.
    Look it up.

  75. Zatara

    “[S]ubstantial evidence corroborates Comey’s account.”

    So substantial that they refused to take it to trial.

    Unsurprisingly, you didn’t flip the page and see that their “substantial evidence” consists of :
    – Comey said so
    – Comey wrote down his story and told his cronies about it
    – It just has the right vibe

    So, we are right back to:

    “In analyzing whether these statements constitute an obstructive act, a threshold question is whether Comey’s account of the interaction is accurate”

    Which is why it never saw a courtroom.

  76. Zatara

    Consider how that sits with the following established facts –

    Neither of those are established facts. They are Comey claims.

  77. I_am_not_a_robot

    He’s changed his tune (again) …

    That is just playing with words, Trump is not a trained lawyer and he is none the worse for that, he may not understand the finer points of US jurisprudence.
    Prosecutors don’t exonerate, as Sen Ratcliffe (I think) pointed out, the word “exonerated” has never appeared before in a prosecutor’s report in US legal history.
    Prosecutors cease investigations for lack of evidence, courts arrive at verdicts of ‘not guilty’ for lack of evidence, defendants are never found innocent or are exonerated.
    ‘Not exonerated’ was used in the final report for political reasons and to feed the media a headline.

  78. Consider how that sits with the following established facts –

    Established by whom? The Democrats and their followers? The same sort of facts that were used in the Kavanaugh smearing?

  79. 1735099

    Neither of those are established facts. They are Comey claims.

    Perhaps there’s another word you need to look up –

    “corroborate – to support with evidence or authority”

    As in – Substantial evidence corroborates Comey’s account.
    Perhaps you don’t understand the meaning of “evidence”?
    Anything’s possible in the alternative reality that is the Trump presidency.

  80. Fisky

    George Papadopoulos
    @GeorgePapa19
    ·
    9h
    The heat is now on the Clinton errand boy, and wannabe spy, Alexander Downer. The world will love to see the secret recordings of my “meeting” with him. They will be out as soon as Mifsud provides his deposition to Durham. Glorious.

  81. Buccaneer

    Annnd Numberwang doubles down, repeating bolded claims doesn’t make them any more true each time you do it. Trump is still president, there is no prospect of a conviction. He’s not just trolling Mueller but you too. You have no evidence just a claim that some exists.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    I had a look around the interweb thingie just now and I am amused it’s like Mueller doesn’t exist. So much for the Dem’s massive publicity campaign they were talking about on Tuesday.

  83. dover_beach

    There is no charge. There will never be a charge. Trump never required exoneration.

  84. 1735099

    He’s not just trolling Mueller but you too.

    You admit the president of the USA is a troll (an ugly creature depicted as either a giant or a dwarf).
    The “ugly” bit is spot on.
    The “giant” refers to his backside.
    And the “dwarf” to his moral capacity.
    The only error you made is to say that he’s trolling me.
    I’m not a threat to his ego (or perhaps his id).
    And it’s not clear from his behaviour that he has developed sufficiently to actually have an ego.

  85. Zatara

    This is page 45, volume II of the Meuller Report. Numbers won’t recognize it because he never went past page 44 where he thought he found a nugget of gold. Like most barracks lawyers he only read the part he liked. It describes the “substantial evidence” the Meuller Commission says supports Comey’s claim.

    First, Comey wrote a detailed memorandum of his encounter with the President on the same day it occurred. Comey also told senior FBI officials about the meeting with the President that day, and their recollections of what Comey told them at the time are consistent with Comey’s account.

    Second, Comey provided testimony about the President’s request that he ” let Flynn go” under oath in congressional proceedings and in interviews with federal investigators subject to penalties for lying under 18 U.S.C. § I 00 l . Comey’s recollections of the encounter have remained consistent over time.

    Third, the objective, corroborated circumstances of how the one-on-one meeting came to occur support Comey’s description of the event. Comey recalled that the President cleared the room to speak with Corney alone after a homeland security briefing in the Oval Office, that Kushner and Sessions lingered and had to be shooed out by the President, and that Priebus briefly opened the door during the meeting, prompting the President to wave him away. While the President has publicly denied those details, other Administration officials who were present have confirmed Comey’s account of how he ended up in a one-on-one meeting with the President. And the President acknowledged to Priebus and McGahn that he in fact spoke to Comey about Flynn in their one-on-one meeting.

    Fourth, the President’s decision to clear the room and, in particular, to exclude the Attorney General from the meeting signals that the President wanted to be alone with Comey, which is consistent with the delivery of a message of the type that Comey recalls, rather than a more innocuous conversation that could have occurred in the presence of the Attorney General.

    Finally, Comey’s reaction to the President’s statements is consistent with the President having asked him to “let Flynn go.” Comey met with the FBI leadership team, which agreed to keep the President’ s statements closely held and not to inform the team working on the Flynn investigation so that they would not be influenced by the President’ s request. Comey also promptly met with the Attorney General to ask him not to be left alone with the President again, an account verified by Sessions, FBI Chief of Staff James Rybicki, and Jody Hunt, who was then the Attorney General’s chief of staff.

    Summary:
    – Comey was at the White House one day. Fact.
    – The President asked to speak with him alone. Fact.
    – Comey wrote a story about it. Unsubstantiated claim.
    – Comey told the story to his cronies. Unsubstantiated claim. Hearsay.
    – His cronies testify that he told them the story. Hearsay.
    – He told the story to Congress. Unsubstantiated claim.
    – The rest is unsupported and opinionated fantasy of what MIGHT have happened, phrased to fit the vibe they wanted to establish. Totally worthless at trial.

    There is nothing whatsoever substantial about any of that rot. The only factual evidence is that Comey had a private meeting with Trump at the White House. Nothing else is admissible except Comey’s testimony itself.

    Making this case depends entirely on Comey’s credibility as a witness and that is exactly why charges were never brought and it never saw a courtroom. The prosecution would have been laughed out of town and the Dems would have looked like the twisted turds that they are.

  86. None

    I see numbers has a hard on. *vomatoid*

  87. Dr Fred Lenin

    I want to see this Comey in court on cconspiricy charges ,offer him immuity if he will expose the rest of the conspiritors ,up to and including obama and the crooked clintons. Comey wont be “Exonorated “ but he will go into witness protecttion,in Baghdad or somewhere safe ,maybe Aleppo , Mogadishu ? Be cheaper to keep him in those shitholes , as an ex FBIboss like Mueller he will be very tough and brave . (Yeah right )

  88. Bruce of Newcastle

    Comey is in deep doo doo.

    Comey’s inside man at White House emerges as DOJ inspector general finalizes FISA abuse report (22 July)

    This previously unreported mole in the White House appears in a new report by RealClearInvestigations that explored possible misconduct by Comey for what two U.S. officials described as essentially “running a covert operation against” the president even as he was assuring Trump he was not the subject of any investigation.

    Anthony Ferrante, a longtime FBI official, worked as a cybersecurity adviser on the National Security Council. Officials said Ferrante was working in the White House even while the FBI held him on reserve status. All the while, he was sharing information about Trump and his aides back to FBI headquarters.

    One former National Security Council official said Ferrante’s unique position was highly irregular.

    “In an unprecedented action, Comey created a new FBI reserve position for Ferrante, enabling him to have an ongoing relationship with the agency, retaining his clearances and enabling him to come back in [to bureau headquarters],” the official said, adding that the NSC division supervisor was “not allowed to get rid of Ferrante” and that the arrangement appeared to be “in direct conflict with the no-contact policy between the White House and the Department of Justice.”

    Ferrante left the White House in April 2017, not long before Trump fired Comey as FBI director.

    He went on to join FTI Consulting, a business-advising firm headquartered in Washington, D.C. Through this firm, Ferrante was hired by BuzzFeed to investigate the dossier composed by Steele, to try and corroborate the unverified claims about Trump’s ties to Russia that appear in the research.

    From the RCP report:

    Sources tell RealClearInvestigations that Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz will soon file a report with evidence indicating that Comey was misleading the president. Even as he repeatedly assured Trump that he was not a target, the former director was secretly trying to build a conspiracy case against the president, while at times acting as an investigative agent.

    Two U.S. officials briefed on the inspector general’s investigation of possible FBI misconduct said Comey was essentially “running a covert operation against” the president, starting with a private “defensive briefing” he gave Trump just weeks before his inauguration. They said Horowitz has examined high-level FBI text messages and other communications indicating Comey was actually conducting a “counterintelligence assessment” of Trump during that January 2017 meeting in New York.

    Maybe he can share a cell with Epstein, once Jeffrey has recovered.

  89. Muddy

    Zatara
    #3115477, posted on July 25, 2019 at 5:52 pm

    Thank you. That was well done.

  90. 1735099

    Comey is in deep doo doo.

    The most amusing characteristic of all of this is the fantasy that Comey, Mueller, Clintons (both), Downer et al are going to be prosecuted.
    It’s an uncanny form of projection, as pioneered in Australia by that dickhead Michael Smith who has been banging on about Gillard for how many years is it now – seven or eight?
    It belongs to the catalogue of evils that have been exported across the Pacific, like gun wankery, alt-Right idiots and anti-vaxers.
    The USA is a great country, but it has more certified lunatics on the loose per square kilometre than just about anywhere else on the planet.

  91. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    note youtube buried the turner video, you have to search for it specifically. you can see why

  92. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    yo numbers did I miss one of your harrowing tales of slaughter and blood and guts from ‘nam?

  93. Leigh Lowe

    Justice Spud of the Old Bailey has spoken.
    Two days ago he claimed that a government seeking to appear before a court was a breach of separation of powers.
    Today he is totally fine with the FBI having a spy within the executive, not on suspicion of any particular crime, but simply for speculative gathering of information, as Hoover used to do.
    The reason?
    Because Michael Smith and Julia Gillard.

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s an uncanny form of projection, as pioneered in Australia by that dickhead Michael Smith who has been banging on about Gillard for how many years is it now – seven or eight?

    Seem to remember you being monumentally beclowned, on his website.

  95. JC

    Where’s Monster and what did he think of Mueller’s performance?

    Monst, get in here and explain what happened yesterday. We friends want to know.

  96. 1735099

    The prosecution would have been laughed out of town and the Dems would have looked like the twisted turds that they are.

    Another major problem in the constitutional republic across the Pacific is that the separation of powers is crumbling under the assault of corporate populism.
    Hence your incapacity to understand that the prosecution has nothing to do with the Democrats.
    Last time I looked the FBI was not a political party.

    The USA is not “democracy”*.

    *Trump’s “democracy” – 2016
    56.9% turnout
    46.1% Trump
    48.2% Clinton
    That turnout means that 43.1% of voters had no say in the outcome, and of the 56.9% who did, the majority (48.2%) didn’t vote for Trump.
    Or put another way, 91.3% (48.2% + 43.1%) didn’t vote for the incumbent.
    Trump’s administration is not supported by the majority of Americans.
    They’re not stupid.

  97. Muddy

    That turnout means that 43.1% of voters had no say in the outcome, and of the 56.9% who did, the majority (48.2%) didn’t vote for Trump.
    Or put another way, 91.3% (48.2% + 43.1%) didn’t vote for the incumbent.

    WHAT THE?
    Even for a blunt redneck like me, that’s some dodgy maths.

  98. Tel

    The USA is not “democracy”.

    It was designed as a Republic.

  99. 1735099

    Seem to remember you being monumentally beclowned, on his website.

    Not really.
    He plugged my book, but went all peculiar later when I asked him to account for what he was doing with the money he took from his website. I simply asked him for a paper trail, you know, like the ones he is so fond of posting.
    He was not prepared to provide the same kind of transparency he demanded of everybody else.
    He got his knickers in a knot, took his bat and ball away and sulked, after rejecting all my comments.

  100. Bruce of Newcastle

    That turnout means that 43.1% of voters had no say in the outcome

    No, it means 43.1% chose not to have a say in the outcome, which isn’t surprising given Crooked Hillary was one of the candidates.

    and of the 56.9% who did, the majority (48.2%) didn’t vote for Trump.

    Of which approximately 5 million were illegal. Which if stripped out would give Trump about a 2 million majority.

    Democracy requires citizens voting and non-citizens, dead people and criminals not voting, and certainly not voting multiple times.

  101. 1735099

    Even for a blunt redneck like me, that’s some dodgy maths.

    Not dodgy – absolutely accurate.

    It was designed as a Republic.

    As I said – a republic; not a democracy.

  102. Zatara

    Quick change of subject it seems.

    Guess it’s off to the forgettery for yet another item you got shot to shit over huh?

  103. 1735099

    Of which approximately 5 million were illegal.

    That is utter bullshit.

  104. 1735099

    Quick change of subject it seems.

    What “change of subject?”
    You have a bad case of premature obfuscation.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thursday, 09 January 2014

    I’ve just received an email from Bob Whittaker.

    Bob’s website is here.

    His website promotes his book which you can purchase at his website.

    Thank you for your service Bob, ostensibly rendered for the likes of me.

    Here is the comment from 1735099 that I published on my website this morning.

    “One of the best aspects of living in regional Queensland is that I can’t listen to the muck daily slung around by you and your pathetic excuse for a radio station.

    To think that I spent time on operational service in SVN ostensibly fighting for the likes of you.

    You are a professional smear merchant, making a living out of selling hate and lies to the highest bidder.

    Thank Christ for the ABC……

    From Number’s link.

  106. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    From Number’s link

    Thursday, 09 January 2014

    Here is the comment from 1735099 that I published on my website this morning.

    One of the best aspects of living in regional Queensland is that I can’t listen to the muck daily slung around by you and your pathetic excuse for a radio station.

    To think that I spent time on operational service in SVN ostensibly fighting for the likes of you.

    You are a professional smear merchant, making a living out of selling hate and lies to the highest bidder.

    Thank Christ for the ABC……

  107. Buccaneer

    Oh no numberwang, Trump is monumentally trolling you. You’ve posted 12 times on this thread alone today and at least as many times again on other threads. That’s 8 to 10 times more than you’ve posted on your own blog in the last 4 months. You’re so upset by him you spend all your time here among bloggers you admit you don’t like or respect.

    1735099

    #3115327, posted on July 25, 2019 at 2:16 pm

    I remember

    Must be a bugger not having anything beautiful and compassionate to remember, and having to compensate by mocking those who have.
    But, this is Catallaxy.
    No compassion or beauty here.

    Your posts lack coherence, compassion (to anyone else here) and relevance. You seem to come to revel in some sad schadenfreude at the idea you might upset someone else, but no one here seems to care. They’ve all recognised you for the fool you are.

    I find this somewhat sad, it’s a great thing to have served for your country, but it’s not a great thing to carry on about it the way you do.

    In your mind you will find some cockeyed way to rationalise these observations and accuse me of something or other. You’re not doing yourself any good here. You’d do well to know when to let others have an opinion and leave this blog altogether.

  108. Bruce of Newcastle

    Well how about that! Numbers is linking “Far Left Factcheck.org“. How amazingly amazing.

    Factcheck.org is run by UPenn, which is leftier than most. Which is really saying something these days.

    According to campaign finance data from OpenSecrets.org, 92% of faculty donations in the 2008 presidential election — $206,970 in total — were given to Democrat Barack Obama

    How stonkingly amazing!

  109. W Hogg

    There is nothing whatsoever substantial about any of that rot. The only factual evidence is that Comey had a private meeting with Trump at the White House. Nothing else is admissible except Comey’s testimony itself.

    Who gives a shit about the “could you let this go?” horseshit?

    Copper drags home delinquent kid.
    “Sir, your son has been caught shoplifting.”
    “I’m very sorry officer – I can assure you he will be severely dealt with and there will be no repetition. Do you think you could see your way to dropping the charges?”
    “Felony obstruction!!!!!1!!11”

    Contrast this to the Swamp handing out immunity like confetti, to Illary’s lawyer, to Pedosta, and to dozens of other crooks and scumbags.

  110. Mater

    Not dodgy – absolutely accurate.

    Really?

    So you contend that 91.3% (48.2% + 43.1%) didn’t vote for the incumbent?

    I suggest you check your numbers…Numbers.

    Your talking about 43.1% of the entire voting pool and then adding 48.2% (which happens to be 48.2% of the 56.9% of those that did vote) which is actually 27.23% of the entire voting pool. And you forgot the 5.7% that voted for other.

    Dodgy as fuck! And wrong.

    Using your figures, about 73.77% of the voting pool didn’t vote for Trump. But then again, about 72.57% didn’t vote for Clinton either.

  111. Geriatric Mayfly

    Thanks to Cats who contributed to this page. Other sources run by the usual suspects would have been far less enlightening, and as if I would be bothered going there in the first place. I do note, with regret, that there is considerable static interfering with those messages which wiser contributors are trying to import.

  112. Lee

    All you have proven, Numbers, is that you have no idea how the U.S. electoral college works.
    Several Democrats have also been elected president, despite losing the “popular vote.”
    You can’t complain about or criticise the system when it doesn’t goes your way, and happily accept it when it does.
    Donald Trump knows this; that is why he never campaigned in strong Democrat states like New York and California.

  113. Rohan

    56.9% turnout
    46.1% Trump
    48.2% Clinton
    That turnout means that 43.1% of voters had no say in the outcome, and of the 56.9% who did, the majority (48.2%) didn’t vote for Trump.
    Or put another way, 91.3% (48.2% + 43.1%) didn’t vote for the incumbent.

    So by extension of that creative arithmetic, 46.1% + 43.1%= 89.2% of people didn’t vote for Hillary.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lzxVyO6cpos

  114. 1735099

    89.2% of people didn’t vote for Hillary.

    Which is 2.1% of voters less than those who didn’t vote for Trump.
    As I pointed out above, the USA is not a democracy.
    So long as that’s clear…

  115. cohenite

    I see the troll, rancid creep that it is, has been busy dropping swamp tidbits from its regurgitation of swamp media outlets.

    But it has a point; some action has to follow; prosecution of comey would be the first; this guy has perjured himself at the FISA court and released secret info to the scum media; perhaps a double act with McCabe and comey should occur. I really hope the delay is getting all the ducks in a row. These scum have almost over turned the most powerful democracy in the world. Restitution must be accompanied by punishment.

  116. Rohan

    And this ladies and gentlemen is why we need serious reform of the education system. Any innumerate dunce can become a teacher.

  117. Mater

    Which is 2.1% of voters less than those who didn’t vote for Trump.

    Still wrong, Bob.

  118. Leigh Lowe

    Who is President of the United States?
    Anybody know?

  119. W Hogg

    Oh no numberwang, Trump is monumentally trolling you. You’ve posted 12 times on this thread alone today and at least as many times again on other threads. That’s 8 to 10 times more than you’ve posted on your own blog in the last 4 months. You’re so upset by him you spend all your time here among bloggers you admit you don’t like or respect.

    And vice versa

  120. 1735099

    All you have proven, Numbers, is that you have no idea how the U.S. electoral college works.

    I know exactly how it works.
    It is a text book example of the classical gerrymander.
    I lived in Queensland during the Bjelke-Petersen era after all.
    The current state of the electoral college is a major vulnerability of the US electoral system, and its consequences can be dire.
    Witness the outcome – a snake oil merchant with his hands on the nuclear button.
    Our system (universal compulsory voting/preferential voting) is far superior.
    Australia (and New Zealand) led the world in the establishment of participatory democracy.
    You know – “government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”.
    The US gives lip service to that principle, but the reality is very different. Abe is rolling in his grave.
    The reality is “some of the people who can actually get to the ballot box”.
    Voter suppression is alive and well.
    Other strategies which we take for granted on this side of the Pacific, and which are unavailable to American voters, include pre-polling, ensuring the ready availability of polling booths, and using schools and other readily accessible places as polling stations.
    A centralised and properly resources electoral commission also helps.

  121. 1735099

    That’s 8 to 10 times more than you’ve posted on your own blog in the last 4 months.

    So pleased you read my blog. Buy my book whilst you’re at it.
    You’re obviously a person with taste and good judgement.
    Having said that, I haven’t noticed any comments from a troll who goes by the name of Trump.
    Maybe he’s using an anonymous tag.

  122. 1735099

    These scum have almost over turned the most powerful democracy in the world

    You’re a bit slow on the uptake, old mate.
    It’s a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

  123. Mater

    Bob,
    We’ll start slow.
    What’s half of a half?

  124. Cassie of Sydney

    Because of the SS guard this thread has become a toilet….this is what he does…he shits and shits and shits. It’s his only talent…shitting…..or perhaps the better word is splattering.

  125. cohenite

    It’s a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

    You pathetic fool, a constitutional republic is the quintessential form of a democracy. Why, because it enshrines individual enfranchisement, not just politically but legally, economically and socially. The US constitutional amendments, particularly, 1, 11 and V are the pinnacle of freedom provisions. The Electoral College is also crucial and a defining element of US federalism.

    Now fuck off.

  126. Tel

    And this ladies and gentlemen is why we need serious reform of the education system. Any innumerate dunce can become a teacher.

    As Bob Murphy regularly points out, quickly list out the things that politicians are regularly telling us are the biggest problems that need fixing: healthcare, schools, crumbling roads and bridges, border security, terrorism, crime, and economic issues such as debt, stability of the dollar, etc.

    Now look at the same list and ask whether government is responsible for each of those things. Hmmm, seems all of the problem items are the ones the government guys have been working on already.

    In contrast pick some of the things that private enterprise is responsible for: food, restaurants, supermarkets, consumer appliances, clothing, shoes, personal hygiene, movies, games, publishing, motor vehicles, holiday accommodation, webpages, phone apps, etc.

    None of the things on that second list get a lot of thought, huh? Those things NEVER turn up on the list of items we should worry about. Because those generally all just work, and if you don’t like what you get, you choose a different supplier.

    So what would the world need to look like in order to satisfy the theory that private enterprise generally does a better job than government?

  127. 1735099

    You pathetic fool, a constitutional republic is the quintessential form of a democracy.

    Absolute rubbish.
    Democracy is about the enfranchisement of power.
    The American system works to make participation exclusive and difficult.
    Voting is not mentioned in the constitution. Ballots are hard to use and every state controls it’s own ballots.
    The Electoral College is an anachronism. It was created in the 1800s as a compromise between two factions, one wanting the popular vote to decide, and the other wanting Congress to decide.
    It’s difficult for many Americans to actually vote. People who are doing it tough, including those working multiple jobs, those with disabilities, and single parents, struggle to make it to voting booths before they close. Contrast that with Australia, when elections are held on Saturdays, when many aren’t at work, and there is pre-polling designed to give everyone the chance to participate.
    There is no consistent standard for qualifying to vote. As a result of no federal rules for who can vote, each state has their own standard for what ID is acceptable or what qualifies. Voter suppression is rife in African American communities.
    It’s impossible for most citizens to run for office. Obama and Romney spent $933 million and $841 million respectively in their 2012 campaigns. God knows what Trump spent. We’re heading that way in Australia, but there remain routes available for people without enormous wealth to aspire to political office.
    The remaining strength in the American system is the separation of powers, but Trump is doing his level best to destroy that by stacking the supreme court.

  128. Buccaneer

    That’s because there aren’t any comments on your blog over the last few months.

  129. W Hogg

    All you have proven, Numbers, is that you have no idea how the U.S. electoral college works.

    I know exactly how it works.
    It is a text book example of the classical gerrymander.

    gerrymander
    /ˈdʒɛrɪˌmandə/
    verb
    gerund or present participle: gerrymandering
    manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favour one party or class.

    You would really need to be an A-grade fuckwit to think that the EC is a gerrymander. Anyone want to put the imbecile out of his misery by telling him how the EC constituency boundaries are drawn?

  130. cohenite

    You’re such a stupid person I can feel my intelligence declining by talking to you. The right to vote is mentioned 5 times in the US Constitutional amendments with congressional enforcement of that right 4 times.

    What has happened to Trump is fundamentally undemocratic; unelected bureaucrats have subverted the exhaustive democratic rights in the US which got Trump and the Republicans elected in all 4 elections, only 2 of which were on an electoral college basis, and in doing so corrupted bulwarks of the democratic process.

  131. W Hogg

    The remaining strength in the American system is the separation of powers, but Trump is doing his level best to destroy that by stacking the supreme court.

    Didn’t think he could get any stupider and then he goes and does that.

  132. cohenite

    The EC is an essential part of the checks and balances which any democracy must have. Australian federalism tends towards centralism while the US form tends towards the opposite with the EC which gives equality to the smaller, less populated states, being a basis of that.

  133. 1735099

    You would really need to be an A-grade fuckwit to think that the EC is a gerrymander.

    Suggest you look at the figures

    In the 2017 elections in Virginia for its lower house, Democrats outpolled Republicans 53 to 43% by a margin of 231,000 votes but secured only 49 of 100 seats at stake. In similar fashion, the Wisconsin case now before SCOTUS involved the 2012 lower house elections where the Republicans scored 48.1% of the vote but won 61% of the seats. In both instances, gerrymandered districts contribute to the inequitable outcome where the vote of one person in some districts is more effective by more than 10 points. This is precisely the issue before SCOTUS: where partisan boundaries are so extreme as to violate the one person, one vote principle protected by the Equal Protection clause of the Constitution.

  134. W Hogg

    The most amusing characteristic of all of this is the fantasy that Comey, Mueller, Clintons (both), Downer et al are going to be prosecuted.

    Bill caught the Lolita Express to Child Rape Island 27 times. His pimp is now in jail.

    But the idea that this might lead to some negative legal covfefe for Bill? LOL.

  135. Zatara

    Democrat propaganda by the gross seasoned with a bit of anti-US foulness seems to be numbers game today.

    From the you wouldn’t know a gerrymander if it bit you in the ass file:
    Democrats Hate Gerrymandering—Except When They Get to Do It

    As to the Electoral College, gerrymandering has absolutely nothing to do with it. You can gerrymander a popular vote, not an electoral college one.

    The electoral college exists so that big, heavily populated States don’t get to outvote small, less populated ones in the presidential election. So that the big cities don’t totally drown out the rural voters.

    I’ll call bullshit on the voter suppression nonsense as well. That’s a standard multi-purpose Dem meme like “wacism” tossed about to try to force loosening up of voter regulations so the Dems can get away with stuff like this: Dem States now allowing illegal aliens to vote.

    People who are doing it tough, including those working multiple jobs, those with disabilities, and single parents, struggle to make it to voting booths before they close.

    Codswallop. All States have both absentee voting and early voting by mail. Some as much as a month in advance of the election day. You don’t need a reason, you just apply for the mail-in ballot.

    Voter suppression is rife in African American communities.

    Absolute horseshit and a prime example of the inherent racism in the Democrat party whose meme this is. “African Americans are too stupid to register to vote or obtain a photo ID” is what they are saying (without saying it quite THAT way). Their actual goal is to make voter fraud more and more easy for the Dems to accomplish. The mail-in ballots and registering by mail are key to the fraudulent voting. Example? Anyone remember boxes of mail-in ballots magically appearing to enable Democrat Al Franken to steal his seat in the Senate?

  136. W Hogg

    You would really need to be an A-grade fuckwit to think that the EC [Electoral College] is a gerrymander.

    Suggest you look at the figures –

    In the 2017 elections in Virginia for its lower house

    Wow.

  137. 1735099

    The right to vote is mentioned 5 times in the US Constitutional amendments with congressional enforcement of that right 4 times.

    It might be “mentioned”, but that doesn’t effect the result on the ground.
    The Gerrymander exists. It is real.
    As is voter suppression.
    The constitution is a bit like the bible – all things to all men.

  138. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Distraction squirrels. Let’s see if they had preferential voting. Clinton would not have won in 1992, Gore may have won in 2000. Trump probably would have won in 2016, because Hillary is so unlikeable.

    The modern Democratic party has quite a lot of corruption and it is possible that Trump (cleanly) won the PV in 2016.

    It doesn’t matter. If the voting system was different every campaign would have been different by every candidate in every cycle.

    If Mueller’s investigation was not politically motivated, we would not have seen Strzok and other bozos.

  139. Oh come on

    Has m0nty stopped by today? Probably not. This would be when he hits rock bottom. All hope is lost.

    I stopped by the ABC News app early this afternoon. The Mueller humiliation was nowhere to be found amongst the top stories. Stories that did make the cut included an article about a car that had been crapped on a lot by pelicans, and another about some guy who is supposedly notable because he trained with a largely unknown olympic swimmer and who is now working as a tradie in Queensland.

    The level of denial going on is delicious. Better than salty leftist tears. A good snifter of leftist denial is a much more complex and enjoyable beverage.

  140. Bruce of Newcastle

    Was Mr Gerry Mander a 116 year old Democrat?
    I’m sure the DNC will go all out vote farming in 2020 after their Orange County rorting in the 2018 election.
    Why do the Democrats subvert democracy with dead voters, multiple voters, Black Panther standover tactics and vote farming? It’s almost like they couldn’t win any other way.

  141. cohenite

    It might be “mentioned”, but that doesn’t effect the result on the ground.

    That’s right, constitutional imperatives have no force. Why didn’t I think of that.

  142. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The constitution is a bit like the bible – all things to all men.

    You thought that funding a case on appeal was “unconstitutional”.

    Just stop.

  143. Oh come on

    Numpty believes the following:

    Providing a link (any link) = QED

  144. mh

    Shouldn’t Australia be detaining Downer?

    At least house arrest I would have thought.

  145. Ivan Denisovich

    The truth, however, remains the same.
    Trump was not exonerated on the charge of obstruction.

    How could anyone give weight to Mueller’s report, especially following an investigation so clearly a “Get Trump” operation?

    MUELLER HAS A REPUTATION …
    July 24, 2019
    It is apparently part of Robert Mueller’s contract with the media that he must always be described as “honorable” and a “lifelong Republican.” (After this week, we can add “dazed and confused” to his appellation.)

    If it matters that Mueller is a “lifelong Republican,” then I guess it matters that he hired a team of left-wing zealots. Of the 17 lawyers in Mueller’s office, 14 are registered Democrats. Not one is a registered Republican. In total, they have donated more than $60,000 to Democratic candidates.

    Congressman Steve Chabot listed the Democratic political activism of nine of Mueller’s staff attorneys at a December 2017 House hearing.

    Here are a few from Chabot’s list:

    — Kyle Freeny contributed to both Obama campaigns and to Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

    — Andrew Goldstein donated $3,300 to both Obama campaigns.

    — Elizabeth Prelogar contributed to both the Obama and Clinton campaigns.

    — Jeannie Rhee donated $16,000 to Democrats, contributed $5,400 to the Clinton campaign — and represented Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation in several lawsuits.

    — Andrew Weissmann contributed $2,000 to the Democratic National Committee, $2,300 to the Obama campaign and $2,300 to the Clinton Campaign.

    None had donated to the Trump campaign.

    The media brushed off the conspicuous anti-Trump bias in Mueller’s office with platitudes about how prosecutors are, “allowed to have political opinions,” as Jeffrey Toobin said on CNN. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein assured the public that their “views are not in any way a factor in how they conduct themselves in office.”

    Obviously, no one believes this — otherwise “lifelong Republican” wouldn’t be spot-welded to Mueller’s name.

    In a fiery rebuke at the hearings this week, Mueller denounced complaints about all the diehard Democrats on his legal team, saying, “I’ve been in this business for almost 25 years, and in those 25 years I have not had occasion once to ask somebody about their political affiliation. It is not done.”

    No kidding. He’s been director of the FBI. He’s been acting U.S. deputy attorney general. He’s been a U.S. attorney. He’s never been an independent counsel investigating the president before.

    An independent counsel investigation isn’t the kind of job where you want the hungriest prosecutors. You want drug enforcement agents who are hungry to bust up drug rings. You want organized crime prosecutors who are hungry to take down the mob.

    But lawyers on a special counsel’s investigation of the president of the United States aren’t supposed to be hungry. They’re supposed to be fair.

    As for Mueller being “honorable,” Steven Hatfill and the late Sen. Ted Stevens might beg to differ.

    After the 2001 anthrax attacks, the FBI, under Director Mueller’s close supervision, spent SEVEN YEARS pursuing Hatfill, a U.S. Army biodefense researcher. Year after year, the real culprit went about his life undisturbed — until he committed suicide when, at last, the FBI zeroed in on him.

    Mueller was deeply involved in the anthrax investigation, recruiting the lead investigator on the case and working “in lockstep” with him, according to a book on the case, “The Mirage Man” by David Willman.

    During this multi-year investigation of the wrong man, Mueller assured Attorney General John Ashcroft, as well as two U.S. senators that Hatfill was the anthrax mailer. Presciently, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz asked then-Deputy Attorney General James Comey if he was sure Hatfill wasn’t another Richard Jewell, an innocent man who, a few years earlier, had been publicly identified by the FBI as the main Olympic bombing suspect. Comey replied that he was “absolutely certain that it was Hatfill.”

    The hounding of Steven Hatfill finally ended in 2008, with the bureau paying the poor man millions of dollars. In open court, a federal judge, Reggie B. Walton, assailed Mueller’s FBI for its handling of the case.

    Far from apologizing, the director stoutly defended the bureau’s relentless pursuit of the blameless Hatfill, saying: “I do not apologize for any aspect of this investigation.” He said it would be incorrect “to say there were mistakes.”

    Maybe he can use that line to defend the similarly monomaniacal zealots he put on the Russia investigation.

    Eight days before the 2008 elections, the government convicted Sen. Stevens of failing to properly report gifts on his Senate financial forms. The longest-serving Republican in Senate history lost his re-election by less than 2 percent of the vote.

    Months later — too late for Stevens’ political career — Obama Attorney General Eric Holder moved for a dismissal of all charges against Stevens after discovering that the government had failed to turn over crucial exculpatory evidence. The trial judge not only threw out the charges, but angrily ordered an independent counsel to investigate the investigators.

    Unlike the disastrous Hatfill case, the extent of Mueller’s oversight of the Stevens investigation is less clear. Was he aware of the bureau’s malicious pursuit of a sitting U.S. senator on the eve of his re-election? Either he was, which is awful, or he wasn’t — which is worse.

    In addition to “honorable,” another way of describing Mueller is: “Too Corrupt for Eric Holder.”

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2019-07-24.html#read_more

  146. Oh come on

    The partisan redistricting process that occurs in many US states is problematic, but there are two important points to consider:

    – it’s cyclical. For example, the 2010 mid-terms were particularly significant due to the number of gubernatorial races and state houses that flipped to the GOP. This meant the process of replacing Dems on redistricting boards with Republicans could begin. The 2018 mid-terms weren’t as significant for the Dems as 2010 was for the GOP in this respect, but if the GOP has a bad year down ticket in 2020, the upper hand in redistricting the relatively small number of electorates that are up for grabs in any electoral cycle could well return to the Dems.

    – redistricting is an inexact science. Electoral boundaries set for partisan purposes are flimsy. They might be effective for one or two cycles, or a partisan redistricting board might botch its task. Even if it doesn’t, there is zero guarantee that an electoral boundary that could effect an election today will still be effective in a decade. Populations move about, opinions shift and so on and so forth.

    It’s a dumb argument. The party that is largely in the minority wrt the redistricting process always bleats about reforming the redistricting process, but you can bet your arse they’re working like crazy to regain the upper hand. And when they do, guess what? Suddenly they’re just fine with the redistricting process.

  147. JC

    OCO, I’ll tell you what is the biggest gerrymandering racket going on and that’s counting the entire population without taking citizenship into account. If it were only citizens that counted in the census = districts, California’s pull for instance would be much smaller than it is.

  148. Oh come on

    Trump was not exonerated on the charge of obstruction.

    Um yeah why are we going over this ground again? The exact same point was made when Mueller’s report first dropped. Who cares?

    Let’s set aside the basic fact that it isn’t a prosecutor’s job to exonerate people of crimes. If a prosecutor can’t exonerate someone of a charge, but also won’t file a charge against them, then that person is presumed innocent of that crime. That’s how common law works. The end. Nothing more to see here.

  149. JC

    Trump was not exonerated on the charge of obstruction.

    That’s right, he was fucking persecuted.

  150. Oh come on

    I mean, I do realise that mouth-breathers like m0nty, Numpty and Limpy wish to invent their own legal standards so that Trump can be convicted of treason and face a firing squad, but reality just doesn’t work that way. Sorry about that.

  151. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    If a prosecutor can’t exonerate someone of a charge, but also won’t file a charge against them, then that person is presumed innocent of that crime. That’s how common law works. The end. Nothing more to see here.

    I know right?

    That bald evil fascist gnome, Sinclair Davidson HAS NOT been exonerated of war crimes and genocide.

    It is such a stupid argument, worthy of the Dept. of Non-Sequiturs in Beria’s NKVD.

  152. Leigh Lowe

    Ted Kennedy was not exonerated of the murder of Mary Jo Kopechne.
    John and Robert Kennedy were not exonerated of the murder of Marilyn Monroe.
    The Clintons were not exonerated over the Whitewater deals.
    Julia Gillard was not exonerated of the AWU fraud.
    Bill Shorten was not exonerated etc etc
    This is fun.
    Shall I continue?

  153. Ivan Denisovich

    That’s right, he was fucking persecuted.

    Coulter’s article highlights Mueller’s astonishing record of both incompetence and bias. The whole investigation was a barely disguised Get Trump fishing expedition.

  154. Steve trickler

    A good summation from Mark Dice.



  155. Oh come on

    To be fair, it looks to me like Mueller was set up as a patsy right from the start of this sordid affair. He was installed as the ostensible head of the investigation so he could be trotted out as the ‘registered Republican’ who would give this witch hunt credibility and gravitas. And I’m sure he was a sharp operator back when he was in his prime, but clearly that was several years ago – long before candidate Trump was even a thing. I’m starting to feel sorry for Mueller. He’s a deep state marionette. He has been used.

  156. jupes

    I’m starting to feel sorry for Mueller.

    No. Apart from his service in Vietnam he has been nothing more than a deep state hack. Ruining the lives (literally) of plenty of innocent people while living high on the hog.

    I hope the Durham inquiry results in Mueller being sent to jail with his other FBI and CIA cronies.

  157. Ainsley Hayes

    President Trump is clearly a victim of crime and deserves financial compensation. Maybe lots and lots of compensation because, after all, President Orange is a person of colour.

    Meanwhile shouldn’t we have a small Royal Commission into our own behaviour as a five eyes partner during the 2016 US election and what our diplomats and their staff were doing? If AG Barr would declass the first FISA we can finally see the predicate paragraph and, as they say over there, the articulable facts? The swamp clearly seeps across the world so we should clean up the backyard.

  158. Oh come on

    You’re a hard man, Jupes. The old man is at least partially senile. Mueller was a black hat, but he genuinely didn’t seem to know what the hell was going on much of the time. The real crook is Weissman.

  159. mh

    Sorry OCO, but Jupes is right.

    Your sympathy should be going to the likes of Roger Stone who was arrested and had his house raided by FBI agents, all of which was broadcast live on CNN which was tipped off by the Mueller team.

    “I opened the door and in my front yard, I was staring down the barrel of two assault weapons and I saw a dozen other FBI agents in the background, all wearing night goggles, full SWAT gear, side arms, and so-on. On the ground was a large metal device used to break down a door which was unnecessary,” Stone told Sinclair Broadcast Group Chief Political Correspondent Scott Thuman in an earlier interview.

    FBI Deep Staters like Mueller should be behind bars while the incompetent FBI gets shut down.

  160. mh

    Liberal talk show host turns on the Dems

    Bill Maher

    @billmaher
    I can’t watch this anymore. Go home, guys. You made O J try on the glove, and it just didn’t work. You can still win the election, but I wouldn’t bet my own money on it.
    8:03 AM – Jul 25, 2019

  161. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Your sympathy should be going to the likes of Roger Stone who was arrested and had his house raided by FBI agents, all of which was broadcast live on CNN which was tipped off by the Mueller team.

    What an absolute stitch-up. That disgusting turn of events should destroy any idea that the deep state does not exist.

  162. Mother Lode

    Every time I see Mueller’s monolithic weatherworn face I think he belongs on the beach of a tropical island.

    Easter Island, to be specific.

  163. Lee

    The media brushed off the conspicuous anti-Trump bias in Mueller’s office with platitudes about how prosecutors are, “allowed to have political opinions,” as Jeffrey Toobin said on CNN. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein assured the public that their “views are not in any way a factor in how they conduct themselves in office.”

    I am calling complete and utter BS and hypocrisy on this line of reasoning or excuse-making.
    If Democrat supporters truly believe that, then how come, of the 17 lawyers in Mueller’s office, 14 are registered Democrats and not a single registered Republican?
    The ABC in Australia and its staff uses the same argument to exclude conservatives or right wingers almost entirely from any on air roles.

  164. Dr Fred Lenin

    Mueller was a figurehead set up for respectability of the lefty scam ,the front man ,they probably fawned over him while carrying out their owners agenda and he was so far up himself he didn notice what was going on . . The plan was a real Baldrick one ,the decromats were so proud of their cleverness they wanted to rub salt in the wound they thought they had inflicted on Trump by getting mueller to top up the lie ,that fell flat on its face as mueller exposed his weakness and the obvious fact that hhe didnt write the final report ,he hardly knew what was in. It . They couldnt file charges because no matter how much they searched and lied there was no crime committed . Looks like they put the final nail in their own coffin fir 2020,they wont win, even if they get the votes of dead from the Civil War to vote ,which if course they will .

  165. Tel

    You’re a hard man, Jupes. The old man is at least partially senile. Mueller was a black hat, but he genuinely didn’t seem to know what the hell was going on much of the time. The real crook is Weissman.

    Let him sit in prison with early release if he can remember who put him up to all this. Maybe also remember some of his earlier capers like the farcical anthrax investigation, perhaps the same names might pop up.

    If there’s one thing known to cure senility it’s fresh air and good exercise … breaking rocks is traditional.

  166. Ivan Denisovich

    Mueller was a figurehead set up for respectability of the lefty scam

    I have no idea if that’s true but Brandon Weichert sees it very differently:

    https://amgreatness.com/2019/07/25/dont-let-mueller-fool-you/

  167. Oh come on

    Your sympathy should be going to the likes of Roger Stone who was arrested and had his house raided by FBI agents

    Thanks but I don’t need instructions regarding how I dole out my sympathy (as if anyone cares anyway). For the record, I think Mike Flynn is probably the most wronged out of the figures who have been taken down in the Mueller witch hunt.

    My feelings wrt Mueller have changed because I now regard him as a patsy. A black hat, yes, but a patsy nevertheless. When Rosenstein tapped him to be the special counsel, he probably accepted the role out of vanity (and animosity towards Trump), even though he (and Rosenstein) likely knew at the time that he was past it. And the subsequent years have clearly not been kind to his mental faculties. He is culpable, sure. However, after seeing his pitiful testimony yesterday, I think he is less culpable than before. He is clearly not all there.

    The top tier villains at this point seem to me to be Rosenstein, Brennan and Weissman. List subject to update.

  168. Oh come on

    Remember Chelsea Handler going on about how she was sexually attracted to Mueller?

    Don’t forget to change his colostomy bag before you give him the little blue pill, Chelsea! Otherwise things could get really messy.

  169. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Funny, because the Q-tards thought RR might have been a GG.

  170. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Remember Chelsea Handler going on about how she was sexually attracted to Mueller?

    She’s a fuckin’ weirdo.

    I’ve said Bridget McKenzie was cute for her age, but I’ve never said wow, that Bronnie Bishop lights my fire.

  171. Kneel

    *Trump’s “democracy” – 2016
    56.9% turnout
    46.1% Trump
    48.2% Clinton
    That turnout means that 43.1% of voters had no say in the outcome, and of the 56.9% who did, the majority (48.2%) didn’t vote for Trump.
    Or put another way, 91.3% (48.2% + 43.1%) didn’t vote for the incumbent.

    So 90.3% didn’t vote for Trump, yet something like 25% (46.1% of 56.9%) did.
    See, there’s your problem – more than 100%!

  172. Iva Right

    My NRMA Open Road magazine arrived today. Now the NRMA was once an organisation that lobbied and represented on behalf of its motorist members. These days of course, in line with most other organisations it has become a ‘woke’ entity which sucks up big time to the environmental lobby. In this issue a major part of the space was taken up by a puff price extrolling the virtues of electric vehicles. The article contained many half truths and a few claims that would stretch the imagination of even the most avid greenies! At the end of the article it addressed the concerns of motorists who were concerned that an electric vehicle could no tow a caravan. “No problem” says the NRMA. “In fact with its greater torque an electric vehicle can tow a caravan more easily than a petrol of Diesel vehicle but with some loss of range”. SOME LOSS OF RANGE, GET REAL. an electric vehicle with a 2 Tonne van hooked up would be lucky to cover 30% of its normal range. Are we going to have charging stations at 50km intervals across the Nullabor? Wake up NRMA, lies and half truths don’t really help the mad cause!

  173. Leo G

    “No problem” says the NRMA. “In fact with its greater torque an electric vehicle can tow a caravan more easily than a petrol of Diesel vehicle but with some loss of range”

    Not to mention some burnout loss of main drive electric induction motors through operating at low speed and high power, outside the safe duty cycle limits.

  174. mh

    Robert Mueller made some exceptional appointments when Director of the FBI. Philip Mudd, for example.

    At the establishment of the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s National Security Branch in 2005, FBI Director Mueller appointed Mr. Mudd to serve as the Branch’s first-ever deputy director. He later became the FBI’s Senior Intelligence Adviser. Mr. Mudd resigned from government service in March 2010.

    So lets have a wander down memory lane with Philip Mudd. The virtue signalling is strong with this one, even calling Don Lemon a nigg er!

  175. Ivan Denisovich

    Robert Mueller made some exceptional appointments when Director of the FBI. Philip Mudd, for example.

    Here’s more on the company he prefers:

    You can figure out how the swamp got the way it is by following the money. No clearer example is found in the financial relationship between two former FBI directors, James Comey and Robert Mueller, which goes a long way towards explaining their joint animus to President Trump and their passionate desire to bring down his presidency.

    During testimony last year before Congress changed hands, Comey insisted he barely knew Mueller. Perhaps the most interesting dip into disingenuousness was Comey’s insistence that the man who made him a multimillionaire, Robert Mueller, was merely a passing acquaintance……………………

    Robert Mueller owes his job as special counsel to long-time friend Comey, who famously leaked government documents written on government computers on government time to the New York Times via a professor friend regarding conversations with President Trump. Comey owes a great deal of his financial wealth to Robert Mueller.

    Seamus Bruner, Government Accountability Institute Researcher and author of Compromised: How Money and Politics Drive FBI Corruption, recently explained how former FBI Directors James Comey and Robert Mueller leveraged their government contacts to enrich themselves when Comey briefly left government service to work for major government contractor Lockheed Martin

    Why did Comey lie about that the nature and depth of his relationship with Robert Mueller, which resulted down the road in Mueller’s appointment as special counsel and the fraudulent surveillance and investigation of candidate, president, and common enemy Donald Trump? Maybe we can ask Robert Mueller about that and whether he thinks his financial dealings might warrant a special counsel or an FBI raid at the crack of dawn.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/07/mueller_and_comey_a_cozy_relationship.html

  176. mareeS

    Poor bugger, he will be in an Alzheimer’s unit soon.

  177. John Constantine

    Once there is eighty million people in Big Australia, of course all of them can’t own cars and just drive wherever they want to whenever they want to. The days of the roadtrip are coming to an end.

    Rural infrastructure and melbourne/sydney streets can’t support it.

    Turnbullites on record as drooling over the urban spaces and real estate values unlocked once private cars are banned.

    Walkies for the proles and choppers from penthouse helipad to penthouse helipad for our betters.

    Comrades.

  178. Leo G

    Robert Mueller isn’t senile; he was a dirty cop forced to take the witness stand

    Now we know what was so special about the special council investigation. It was demented throughout- though I suspect that Mueller himself only shifted into the lean and slippered pantaloon for the one staged performance.
    The responsibility for oversight of the probe, though, was not just with Rosenstein and Mueller, but also the top tier of attorneys who shared the hands-on management- Andrew Weissmann, Aaron Zebley and Jeannie Rhea. Of the five, three hailed from WilmerHale, the law firm representing Hillary’s interests in the Clinton email ‘kerfuffle”.
    How more demented might it look if revealed that real oversight was by Hillary?

  179. Oh come on

    Robert Mueller isn’t senile; he was a dirty cop forced to take the witness stand

    I think we need to maintain perspective here. I understand that people are furious at Mueller, and rightfully so. However, the guy is clearly losing his marbles. And if he’s not, he’s the greatest actor to have never worked in Hollywood.

    I agree that Mueller ought to face some kind of serious legal sanction – he deserves jail time for agreeing to put his name on the monstrosity of Weissman’s report – but this will take a while. I doubt he’ll be mentally competent to stand trial. His reputation is forever destroyed. That’s about as much justice as can be expected.

  180. Chris M

    Democrats sic the dotards and zombies on Trump! It’s just like Hollywood. To see a ranting Mueller in mummy bandages and a straight jacket, fantastic plot.

  181. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Good lord.

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