Open Forum: August 3, 2019

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  1. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Time to go to bed.

  2. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    2nd – thank you, thank you.

  3. jo

    Peter, did you only stay up to be first?

  4. Dave in Marybrook

    Anyone got a conversation starter?
    Or, the Weekend Oz yet?

  5. Muddy

    Muddy slides in, insomnia dripping from his chin.

  6. Rossini

    Slow night! Looks like I made the team!

  7. Rossini

    Melbourne Storm For the grand final this year?

  8. Muddy

    Let’s keep this quiet so none of the dorks know we’re here and try to join us.
    Wait a minute … I’m a dork.

  9. zyconoclast

    Muddy slides in, insomnia dripping from his chin.

    Something like this?

  10. egg_

    Let’s keep this quiet so none of the dorks know we’re here and try to join us.

    Too late!

  11. Muddy

    Yup, that’s the spitting image of me, zyconoclast. Except less charisma. And not so smoothe skin.

  12. Muddy

    Not sure about the Storm, Rossini, but word has it that the half-time entertainment will involve the symbolic slaughter of toxic white males, set to the tune of an overpriced international artiste no-one has ever heard of.

  13. Muddy

    Muddy continues dribbling to himself. Story of his life.
    *Violins*

  14. Muddy

    Not long till Tomtime.
    Aaaaany moment now.

  15. Muddy

    Ah buggerit! Can’t be arsed going for the record. There must be some home brand vinegar in the pantry that’ll knock me out.

  16. DrBeauGan

    Over half an hour until Tom’s toons. How can I last?

    I know, I’ll smoke another cigar.

  17. Confused Old Misfit

    I’ll smoke another cigar.

    Don’t inhale.

  18. DrBeauGan

    Don’t inhale.

    Anyone who inhales a Cuban cigar deserves all he gets.

  19. bespoke

    From the old thread.
    Two comments from with different conclusions but both have valid points.

    Pedro the Ignorant and Bruce in WA.

  20. DrBeauGan

    From the old thread.
    Two comments from with different conclusions but both have valid points.

    Pedro the Ignorant and Bruce in WA.

    The trouble is, bespoke, that those who try to put numbers straight haven’t realised that they are being played for fools.

  21. Tom

    Now that Mr Rabbit’s gone, TDS is the only thing David Rowe has left.

  22. bespoke

    DrBeauGan
    #3121894, posted on August 3, 2019 at 4:09 am
    The trouble is, bespoke, that those who try to put numbers straight haven’t realised that they are being played for fools.

    I no full well that engaging with him is futile and think few others are naive think others wise. But expecting all to comply with ghosting him in a combative open forum is naive. I think its better to not let him drag us down with him no matter tactic you choose.

  23. bespoke

    no matter what tactic you choose.

  24. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom for my daily fix. The democrat clown show is mind-boggling.

  25. DrBeauGan

    I no full well that engaging with him is futile and think few others are naive think others wise. But expecting all to comply with ghosting him in a combative open forum is naive. I think its better to not let him drag us down with him no matter tactic you choose.

    This is certainly the last place to try to get uniformity of action. Appeals to sweet reason are the best bet, but they don’t work on most women or the excitable.

  26. bespoke

    DrBeauGan

    Approximately how many times have declared your not going to respond to Numbers?
    Do you think this does not give him comfort?

  27. jupes

    Hey Beaugy how long are you staying in Cuba?

  28. bespoke

    The last thread ended with a protracted emotional wine by a few men directed at a women, Sad!

  29. calli

    From the OOF

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3121724, posted on August 2, 2019 at 8:56 pm
    Pedro – Every righty blog has one. Weird that. Almost like it has been arranged.

    They do shift work. One goes, another takes its place. Sometimes they talk to each other. There are certain obsessions and turns of phrase that make me wonder if it isn’t the same person, over and over.

    Or maybe it’s just the Borg. Hivemind can do that to you.

  30. calli

    Here I am, at sparrow’s, up and ready to walk the derg. But there is no derg. I will have to get used to it.

    I believe Trump is still President.

    Gab will confirm when she wakes at a more godly hour.

  31. 1735099

    BoJo’s plan for Northern Ireland.

  32. DrBeauGan

    Hey Beaugy how long are you staying in Cuba?

    My itinerary says until 18th October, Jupes, but my last visa expires about a month before that. I can either go to the Dominican Republic or Cancun for a few days to get a new visa, which will get through my store of euros and doesn’t look value for money, or I can brave a cold Perth and come back in September. I’m leaning towards being brave ATM.

  33. bespoke

    That was quick.

    Says Maria to the Doc. 😎

  34. DrBeauGan

    Approximately how many times have declared your not going to respond to Numbers?
    Do you think this does not give him comfort?

    Approximately none. I have advocated it twice.

  35. jupes

    One of the downsides of living in Frogland is the lack of English language papers. I like to read a paper with my morning coffee but more often than not I can only get the NYT (where are the Pommy papers FFS?).

    The upside of the NYT is the Jumble puzzle but the rest of it is a revelation. Now I am used to left wing bias e.g. the ABC or Fairfax but this is taking it to another level. EVERY article about the US is anti-Trump.

    Friday’s edition had a front page report about how Trump is inciting white nationalist terrorism (seriously) by his (inane but accurate) comments about Baltimore and the squad. The report continues on page 15 (the opinion page) which it shares with a glowing article about Kathy Griffin where it describes the photo of her holding Trump’s decapitated head as ” the infamous 2017 photo of her holding a Donald Trump mask covered with ketchup.”

    Self awareness – Zero!

  36. jupes

    I’m leaning towards being brave ATM.

    Be brave! Perth is the best place on Earth.

  37. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I no full well that engaging with him is futile and think few others are naive think others wise. But expecting all to comply with ghosting him in a combative open forum is naive. I think its better to not let him drag us down with him no matter tactic you choose.

    A pair of arseless chaps for the cat who can extract the longest response from the numbers coward.

  38. DrBeauGan

    Be brave! Perth is the best place on Earth.

    Sssh!!! We don’t want those easterners all finding out! I’ve been telling them it’s a freezing hell hole. With fat bottomed women.

  39. bespoke

    And we have nice warm barrels for visitors if they dare to come hear.

  40. 1735099

    The sad symmetry of worker exploitation.
    The lower the income, the greater the rip-off.
    What a time to be alive –

    Data from the Household, Income and Labour Dynamics in Australia (HILDA) survey shows almost a third of casual workers in Australia are earning less than the minimum wage. Even after allowing for measurement error, Wooden says, the number could still be as high as 15 per cent of casual workers.
    With about 2.5 million people on casual work arrangements, that would mean some 350,000 people being paid below the legal minimum.
    A recent study from Wooden and his Melbourne Institute colleague Dr Inga Lass suggests underpayment is both widespread and systemic among low-paid casual employees.
    According to their research, these casuals earn far less than their permanent peers. In principle, casual employees should be getting 25 per cent more than permanent staff to compensate for their lack of leave entitlements. This has been a legal requirement since reforms to award wages took effect in July 2014. Before that, most awards provided for a 20 per cent premium.
    But the study from Wooden and Lass shows only the highest-paid casual employees can expect to earn much more than permanents.
    Among the lowest-paid 5 per cent of women, casual workers are earning a massive 27 per cent less than the equivalent permanent staff, while among men the shortfall is 12 per cent. The pay gap gets bigger as incomes get smaller. The lowest-paid 1 per cent of men working in a casual arrangement earn 16 per cent less than the lowest-paid permanent male workers.

  41. 1735099

    The sad symmetry of wage theft –

    Data from the Household, Income and Labour Dynamics in Australia (HILDA) survey shows almost a third of casual workers in Australia are earning less than the minimum wage. Even after allowing for measurement error, Wooden says, the number could still be as high as 15 per cent of casual workers.
    With about 2.5 million people on casual work arrangements, that would mean some 350,000 people being paid below the legal minimum.
    A recent study from Wooden and his Melbourne Institute colleague Dr Inga Lass suggests underpayment is both widespread and systemic among low-paid casual employees.
    According to their research, these casuals earn far less than their permanent peers. In principle, casual employees should be getting 25 per cent more than permanent staff to compensate for their lack of leave entitlements. This has been a legal requirement since reforms to award wages took effect in July 2014. Before that, most awards provided for a 20 per cent premium.
    But the study from Wooden and Lass shows only the highest-paid casual employees can expect to earn much more than permanents.
    Among the lowest-paid 5 per cent of women, casual workers are earning a massive 27 per cent less than the equivalent permanent staff, while among men the shortfall is 12 per cent. The pay gap gets bigger as incomes get smaller. The lowest-paid 1 per cent of men working in a casual arrangement earn 16 per cent less than the lowest-paid permanent male workers.

    What a time to be alive.

  42. DrBeauGan

    Maria has stood me up for the third time running. I sent her txt messages which got ignored so I phoned her to enquire what was going on. She was quite annoyed with me. She explained that she was working. I asked when I would get my phone back. She said she would bring it to me at eight o’clock or at midnight if necessary.

    Making undertakings and not keeping them or bothering to keep me informed seems to be natural to Maria. I’m not making any more dates with her. I don’t intend to believe her when she makes them either. I don’t think she grasps the idea. Perhaps she just expects blokes to wait until she has nothing else to do and then be grateful when she does rock up. It may be a by-product of being beautiful.

    One can speculate on this indefinitely, but I can’t care much. I like to have some idea of what to expect in a day, but Cuba seems more innured to chaos. Or maybe Maria is.

  43. bespoke

    ‘Progressives’ never consider results. A good picker/pruner on piece rate’s was able cover there yearly expenses plus able to earn extra or do other activity’s. Now they are forced on hourly rate’s with the government making up the shortfall.

  44. Mater

    The trouble is, bespoke, that those who try to put numbers straight haven’t realised that they are being played for fools.

    Not all issues which emanate from Bob’s stupidity are unworthy of discussion. Take yesterday for example. Compulsory voting and the politics of authors like Kipling and Shaw are surely not unworthy of discussion on this blog. Dogmatic avoidance in a discussion just because he contributed, only empowers him.

    If you want to examine the decline of the blog, the long winded, fact light exchanges between valued contributors would be a good place to start. It seems to be a competition as to who can take more skin off.
    Look at the two pages prior to Pedro’s statement last night and you’ll quickly see that Bob’s contribution to the malaise was insignificant.

    I’m afraid that putting all the blame on him for the slightly ugly atmosphere on this blog is demonstrating a focus almost as narrow as his and a lack of self awareness. He doesn’t really add to the blog, but let’s not use him as the scape goat either. Remember, he’s been around since at least 2011 doing exactly the same stuff and we are now blaming him for the recent decline?

    The Cat used to critical, challenging, respectful (mostly) and witty. If we want to examine what changed, this would be a start.

  45. DrBeauGan

    Now they are forced on hourly rate’s with the government making up the shortfall.

    Not the government. Governments don’t have any money. The taxpayer.

  46. DrBeauGan

    I agree, mater, that numbers has occasionally written something that isn’t entirely dumb. His comments on the US state department propping up the communist party was interesting. These are rare events and doubtless to be cherished.

    What I have seen increasingly is writers who confused an argument with a row. Misrepresent what an opponent says, throw in a few insults. This has to be done wittily if it’s to entertain, and there’s an absence of humour that’s very conspicuous.

    So no, it’s not just numbers making his obsessions plain. It doesn’t take many angry people to wreck things. And there’s too much anger around. Numbers provokes more than his share, but there is a lack of balance. Maybe it’s the Zeitgeist.

  47. notafan

    The great misrepresenter and insult thrower pontificating about the sins of others.

    After yet another boring whine about Maria.

  48. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I don’t think she grasps the idea. Perhaps she just expects blokes to wait until she has nothing else to do and then be grateful when she does rock up

    or more likely she has decided she isn’t going to extract anything from you and has lost interest.

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  50. notafan

    All suffering from extreme memory loss to.

    The P word and the C word were banned because they were regularly used as insults around here.

    Grigory, tomix and srr serial, and in srr’s case, almost, nonestop abuse of other posters were a constant.

    Mark from Canberra and elsewhere something or the other used to post long crude abusive diatribes at numbers before numbers was banned for a time.

    Then there were the JC and sftp pub nightly spats.

    And others, too..

  51. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Old news but has anyone seen Carlos Maza’s tweets supporting Antifa?

    Just terrible. I can’t fathom how that is not incitement. If not, he is skirting with a felony.

  52. DrBeauGan

    or more likely she has decided she isn’t going to extract anything from you and has lost interest.

    That’s the optimum, Zippy. As long as I get my phone back.

  53. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    m0nty
    #2778982, posted on August 2, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    The point was that Nixon was involved, literally with what would be called “deep staters”.

    This is incorrect. There were no serving agents of the FBI, NSA or any of those organisations convicted over Watergate. The criminals were all political appointees or operatives from the Republican Party, not public servants. Howard Hunt and James McCord were ex-CIA but acted privately, not as part of the state.

    What organised crime activities has Trump been involved with?

    I look forward to finding out in the coming months as Mueller rolls out the indictments! What fun.

  54. calli

    EVERY article about the US is anti-Trump.

    I noticed that too, jupes. Our NY hotel had a bundle of the NYT in the lobby each morning. The top one was read, the rest left pristine.

    One read as I waited for a taxi was enough.

  55. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    1735099
    #3121931, posted on August 3, 2019 at 6:17 am

    The sad symmetry of worker exploitation.
    The lower the income, the greater the rip-off.
    What a time to be alive –

    This bloke is a hardcore communist. Not sure if he’ll ever engage in a discussion or just post ridiculous talking points.

    A recent study from Wooden and his Melbourne Institute colleague Dr Inga Lass suggests underpayment is both widespread and systemic among low-paid casual employees.

    Actually, these upper-class academics are the true exploitative class.

    Among the lowest-paid 5 per cent of women, casual workers are earning a massive 27 per cent less than the equivalent permanent staff, while among men the shortfall is 12 per cent. The pay gap gets bigger as incomes get smaller. The lowest-paid 1 per cent of men working in a casual arrangement earn 16 per cent less than the lowest-paid permanent male workers.

    This is simply nonsense. If paid legitimately, they get more. If paid under the table, they get undeclared cash income.

  56. notafan

    Oh and awesome point, after years and years of large scale successful visa fraud by people who mostly got to stay in Australia, KD claims victory because even though visa fraud by Indians is an ongoing problem it has declined from 50%, apparently.

    Not the slightest bit concerned about the continued immigration by unskilled fraudsters.

    No concern that large scale fraud was facilitated, in at least one well known case, by an Indian employee of the immigration department.

    No doubt having entered on student visas with pay for play spouses, there are numerous divorces and replacement spouses arriving.

    Any luck Australia will be even more mired in Indian style government corruption and bribery in a decade or so.

    Twostix is absolutely right.

    And KD is hot air. Stick to whinging about things within your areas of expertise, like low class tindr dates.

  57. calli

    Perfect.

    Thanks Tom. I enjoyed Garisson’s “Orange Man Bad” Lemon too.

  58. notafan

    Frank

    I’m going to assume that casuals, who get loadings by the way, work less hours that ,permanent staff, it makes no sense otherwise.

  59. calli

    Yesterday was Kipling.

    Today, this came to me during my solitary walk.

    Nature’s first green is gold,
    Her hardest hue to hold.
    Her early leaf’s a flower;
    But only so an hour.
    Then leaf subsides to leaf.
    So Eden sank to grief,
    So dawn goes down to day.
    Nothing gold can stay.

    Robert Frost

  60. notafan

    Oh it’s ‘underpayment’. Must be cashies then.

    Arrangements freely entered into for mutual benefit.

  61. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    “Orange Man Bad” Lemon

    Bitter and twisted.

    If Obama gave you lemons…you need to find a new God.

  62. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    notafan
    #3121962, posted on August 3, 2019 at 7:51 am

    Oh it’s ‘underpayment’. Must be cashies then.

    Academics shilling for more tax revenue. Who’d thunk it?

    The only party that is “underpaid” is the green eyed beast in the Lake Burley Griffin abyss, called the Commonwealth Treasury.

  63. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Nota

    Sure there is a lot of fraud, but most Indian immigrants I have met were professionals who are very materialistic and come from upper caste backgrounds.

    I just can’t see a decent ROI on funding a “scholarship”, living in squalor to send back tiny remittances.

    The education racket needs to be shut down. It goes to show what a sham TESQA etc are that these things are and accredited and funded.

  64. mh

    Just opened Target email. The male clothes models have tattoos all over them, and have sour facial expressions that scream ‘try hard’.

    Lift you game Target, or I will never buy a 15 dollar men’s belt from you again.

  65. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Imagine if you were a solicitor or legal academic and proclaimed “the Commonwealth consolidated Acts are not the law”..”just evidence of law”.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/05/15/reminder-the-united-states-code-is-not-the-law/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3bcdf1701439

    The thing is, he’s actually right.

    Anarcho-tyranny.

  66. notafan

    That just reflects the circles in which you mix Frank.

    There something about academics pontificating about the people that they meet blah blah blah from diverse backgrounds when in fact they clearly have something in common, they’re academics.

    No-one discussed scholarships, though I do recall an article linked here about clearly underqualified students being given scholarships and having to be told why they were not given access to advanced math courses

    Oh and

    Next time struth writes a diatribe about Indian truck drivers breaking the law and their disgusting personal habits, don’t be one of those noddng along behind a politician types and take issue with him and his lived experience.

    And you contradicted yourself about the education racket or did you not notice?

    Ghost colleges give ghost qualifications and your ‘tiny remittance’ is somebody else’s pot of gold.

    is it or is it not true that there is ample evidence that people are living in illegal boarding houses with up to 10 people in two-bedroom Flats?

    is it or is it not true that there are hundreds of advertisements on places like Gumtree for Indian and Punjabi roommates? Also mentioned in articles on illegal boarding houses. That does taking into consideration foreign language sites also mentioned in these articles..

    And who are these exploited people being underpaid for casual work?

  67. notafan

    Oh and obvious point.

    If immigration scams by Indians have decreased I’m not assuming that that is because Indians have spontaneously become more honest but either because immigration is better at thwarting them or no longer admitting the levels of fraud.

    Remember the 2013 ABC article was based on immigration data it obtained under FOI.

  68. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    notafan
    #3121972, posted on August 3, 2019 at 8:20 am

    That just reflects the circles in which you mix Frank.

    Bwahahaha! Nota, don’t do this to yourself!

    is it or is it not true that there is ample evidence that people are living in illegal boarding houses with up to 10 people in two-bedroom Flats?

    Marginal stuff. The wealthy Indians do this sensibly and are prodigious savers. By “scholarships” I meant the parents funding them.

  69. Twostix

    At one point under different management this place posed as respectful if you were a 2009 era leftwing goon pretending to be a libertarian conversing with a radical stalinist about how best to dispose of christian bigots. Or one of the impotent liberal pets allowed to be battered by both. This was still during the time conservatives thought the could don the bow tie and be the Nice Ones able to win debates against what were protypical Antifa supporters with high brow policy discussion.

    But try taking the doctrinaire libertarian position against state backed (gay) marriage then, or be one of the original catholics and see how that respect travelled. It was that hypocrisy (perhaps driven by intuitive foreshadowing that these lunatics really meant everything they said, as we’ve since found out they did and then some) which from 2008-2011 had a handful of people, mostly gen-x with a millenial and boomer or two form a loose coalition which battled (and won) to carve out a space here. The fake libertarians lamented the loss of this place as their own and all (three) of them left. Under the new order for at least seven years the place rode high and rollicked along with its ups and downs.

    Every year or two the place has a self analysis and meta discussion about how it is failing. It does continue, really the only problem at the moment is there are simply too many lonely geriatric men treating the place as a low T mens shed support group.

  70. notafan

    You see you are doing it again Frank.

    No-one has denied there are wealthy Indians.

    There are well over 500,000 Indians living in Australia.

    If you haven’t noticed the subcontinentals driving trucks, delivering parcels, working at the hand car wash, etc good luck to you.

    I have read several articles about Indian students being expected to self support when they arrive in Australia, including personal interviews with said students.

    All made up, obviously.

    Marginal stuff.

  71. MatrixTransform

    We don’t know if 3% is potent or not.

    400ppm == 40:100000
    3% of that (lets call it 4% just because) == 1.6 : 100000

    so on grand final day with a full MCG, one and a half people there are from the Anthropogenic CO2 squad, 38.5 are other CO2 from Mauna Lua and champagne bubbles and cow farts and my compost bin, and around about 99960 are not CO2

    lets not forget that CO2 absorption range is already covered by water vapour’s

    (fuzzy morning convefe math)

  72. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    If you haven’t noticed the subcontinentals driving trucks, delivering parcels, working at the hand car wash, etc good luck to you.

    What have you got against thew working classes? Heh. Aren’t these good migrants?

    Those truck drivers make incomes exceeding a lot of entry-level “professional” careers. Can you see these guys living in a flat with 10-20 people? No way. They’d have enough money left over to send back to India anyway. Why not, they earned it.

    I have read several articles about Indian students being expected to self support when they arrive in Australia, including personal interviews with said students.

    All made up, obviously.

    Marginal stuff.

    You’re conflating widespread immigration fraud with extreme examples of frugality and squalor.

  73. MatrixTransform

    NotaClue,

    I am an engineer of sorts .. and I did a paper round, worked in a supermaket and did a stint on a fishing boat.
    My mate Sri is an engineer and he delivered Aust Post parcels.

    that means we are both Indian?
    both engineers?
    both working class shmucks?

    if you want to make coherent sense, youre gonna have to use facts instead of impressions.

  74. notafan

    My general impression is that you are an incoherent mysogonist who abuses decent people like Dover beach domatrix.

    Anything else?

  75. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Why do conservatives rail about “state backed” gay marriage, but never “state backed” divorce, no fault divorce, abortion, abortion subsidies and so on, let alone “state backed” heterosexual marriage?

    It’s a convenient trope.

    This provision in the law is a saving grace. I doubt that Gareth Evans as AG put it in there intentionally.

    http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/sda1984209/s28a.html

    Particularly subsections (1) (a) and (1A) (b) and (d). They basically form an anti-trolling proivision.

  76. MatrixTransform

    I have read several articles about …

    Yeah, well I did four years of night school with dozens of Indians and Chinese

    of course, living in a stairwell of the Richmond Commission flats, they all shared a single old computer, ate only once a week and took turns sleeping with the doona. They would have used the Chihuahuas to keep warm, but the for the Chinese and their appetites

  77. notafan

    Apparently linking artickess about widespread visa fraud and illegal boarding houses is feelz.

    But you all win.

    There is no indian subclass attending ghost tertiary institutions while working in low pay cash jobs and living in overcrowded apartments here in Australia.

    I made it all up, all by myself.

  78. MatrixTransform

    another article

    …and another opinion that isnt really your own.

  79. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Luxury.

    We had to eat our Shih Tzu and use it as a blanket.

    Computer! Ha! We had to hack analogue radio networks by rotary phone.

  80. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    There is no indian subclass attending ghost tertiary institutions while working in low pay cash jobs and living in overcrowded apartments here in Australia.

    Mum

    I’m not saying that doesn’t happen at all.

  81. MatrixTransform

    Dearest Nota,

    the plural of opinion does not equal fact

  82. Twostix

    What have you got against thew working classes? Heh. Aren’t these good migrants?

    No.

    They are here purely to drive wages down and disenfranchise the australian nation.

    On a personal level they’re here to make $$$ so the can return to India in midlife and live like kings. They take loans to pay to be snuck in as “family” which they pay back later.

    They are mercenaries. This doesn’t even touch on the the middle class arrivals who come in under the “skilled” migranr scheme who as a group are riddled with absolute frauds.

  83. Shy Ted

    If we’re going to reclaim the Cat, and we should, we need to raise the bar for our own posts. Dr BG is a good example, despite the malice he always responds in a gentlemanly fashion. Be you at home or abroad and genuinely interacting with those who cross our path and relieve us of a few $ one way or another is always a good tale. More tales. You’ve all got them.

  84. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    They are here purely to drive wages down and disenfranchise the australian nation.

    How do skilled workers drive down the general wage level?

    It might be great for some engineers to be on 200k to run a mine but it would mean that not a lot of mines would get starts.

  85. Leigh Lowe

    There are many Indians.
    From many tribes.
    And many happy hunting grounds.

  86. Twostix

    Imagine university qualified programmers who cannot write code.

    Who at immigration let them in without realising any of this? Either there is a widespread internal culture of covering up for lying friends and coutrymen in this group which outwits our professional background investigators, or the dept of immigration is corrupted and waving them through.

  87. MatrixTransform

    They are mercenaries.

    Many of that heritage that I know, have a very relativistic approach to truth.

    Did I tell about the bloke from Goa who managed the maintenance dept at a substantial Melb hospital who was on the take? Shifty fucker got the sack but that didnt stop him ringing me and trying shake me down.

    Cheeky pricks

    ever read about it in the the paper?

    (probably not an opinion)

  88. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Cappy unloads on a senior Gillette employee.

    “An $8 bn writedown is worth it to support poundmetoo”

  89. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Twostix
    #3122009, posted on August 3, 2019 at 8:58 am

    Imagine university qualified programmers who cannot write code.

    Who at immigration let them in without realising any of this? Either there is a widespread internal culture of covering up for lying friends and coutrymen in this group which outwits our professional background investigators, or the dept of immigration is corrupted and waving them through.

    Most of the rot is in the universities here in Australia. I pretty much lost a job because I complained about the low standards allowed to pass students (Chinese students).

    I can’t imagine the Immi. Dept. with its liberal arts grads have a clue about programming. HR depts. are clueless enough “must have 20+ years experience with Ruby on Rails”, etc.

  90. Leigh Lowe

    I can think of at least three Indian restaurants which also bear smaller signage along the lines of “Punjabi Culinary Training Institute”.
    Give me a fucking break.

  91. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    MatrixTransform
    #3122010, posted on August 3, 2019 at 8:59 am

    They are mercenaries.

    Many of that heritage that I know, have a very relativistic approach to truth.

    They don’t do “synergy” well from what I’ve seen. As long as your dept. smokes the others. Forget about actual profits!

    A lot of the westernised Indians can’t stand the backward “Little India” stuff, like being marked on each shift & Deer Mr Sir, plz revert back to me, etc along with the caste system crap.

  92. stackja

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3122011, posted on August 3, 2019 at 8:59 am

    Shareholders happy?

  93. Indolent

    Andrew Bolt isn’t backing down on Greta Thunberg. Good for him (paywalled).

  94. C.L.

    The Babylon Bee reports:
    Experts Warn We Have Only 12 Years Left Until They Change The Timeline On Global Warming Again.
    —————————–
    Related: Left-wing Snopes and Buzzfeed wan Facebook to deplatform the Babylon Bee.

  95. Twostix

    How do skilled workers drive down the general wage level?

    See how it is only the labor market which is immune to supply and demand, same as with leftwing goons and minimum wage, dot!

    At any given moment there’s about 50 jobs in my industry in this state and each gets a 30 or more applications and are easily filled unless they’re trying to pay a shit wage or offer shit conditions.

    Which is precisely the argument they then make to import modern coolie labour: that nobody will work for our shit wages, we need cheap indians who will!

  96. stackja

    C.L.
    #3122015, posted on August 3, 2019 at 9:03 am

    In the past a cup of tea, a Bex and a good lie down.

  97. calli

    There is no indian subclass attending ghost tertiary institutions while working in low pay cash jobs and living in overcrowded apartments here in Australia.

    Both things are happening, of course.

    Pre-retirement, a good portion of my clientele were cashed-up sub-continentals. I’m told by the New Broom that that continues to be so.

    The point twostix made about the APS should be the worrying aspect – departments being run and staffed by people who may not share the same beliefs and cultural mores as us.

    But then you have to ask yourself, “who exactly is “us”?”.

    TLS touched upon it, in her usual hamfisted way. 🙂

  98. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    See how it is only the labor market which is immune to supply and demand, same as with leftwing goons and minimum wage, dot!

    No. You’re wrong and your example is not relevant, it relates to partial equilibrium (industry-specific wages); the general wage level is determined in general equilibrium.

    How do skilled workers drive down the general wage level?

    Look it up. Wages are not determined solely by the wage share of national income and real wages (wages dependent on the price level) are what matter.

    What you are saying is incorrect because it is contrary to the most fundamental statement in economics, that is, the production function.

  99. Leigh Lowe

    The point twostix made about the APS should be the worrying aspect – departments being run and staffed by people who may not share the same beliefs and cultural mores as us.

    The old vehicle registration branch (VicRoads) was a case in point.
    Exclusively sub-continental.
    How did that happen?

  100. calli

    On the supposed lack of courtesy at the Cat…

    I have not felt the need to order a skip or don the hazard gear for a long, long time now. Nor direct stouchers to the supply or brass knuckles and flensers. And the trebuchet lies rusting and cobwebby in the back shed.

    ⚔️⚔️⚔️

  101. Leigh Lowe

    I have not felt the need to order a skip or don the hazard gear for a long, long time now. Nor direct stouchers to the supply or brass knuckles and flensers. And the trebuchet lies rusting and cobwebby in the back shed.

    You’ve outsourced it all to Indian cleaners?

  102. John Constantine

    It really isn’t fraud when it is producing exactly the results our State intends.

    Merit based Big Australia was never the intention.

    We could have simply gone to India and China, opened offices and had the Australian government itself sell citizenship to the million most talented and capable Indian families that applied.

    We could have sold the million most honest and gifted third worlders tickets to the First World on merit.

    The crony criminal socialist Australian kleptocracy however wanted corruption on an epic scale.

    Handing over Australia’s migration industry to transnational looting cartels was their Australian left’s basic instinct.

    Handing organised crime the concession to sell access to Australia’s welfare State for cents in the dollar was not just the way to big Australia, but the way to lock in socialism for eternity.

    Comrades.

  103. cohenite

    A lot of wimps on this site. The troll must be subject to extreme prejudice. No tolerance of dickheads

  104. Tel

    What have you got against thew working classes? Heh. Aren’t these good migrants?

    My impression is these new “working classes” do tend to work harder than your average Australian … but you want to double check any qualification from any university these days. Employers are better off putting together their own screening tests.

    The cultural mismatch has changed the country overall though … there’s a general lack of trust everywhere. Not that anyone in particular is to blame for that, but the general trend towards a low trust society is kind of obvious. Maybe a bit of healthy cynicism is a good thing in the modern age.

  105. vr

    I have read several articles about Indian students being expected to self support when they arrive in Australia, including personal interviews with said students.

    This is true. A cousin who came over to do a masters in engineering at UNSW supported himself by driving taxis and working in a restaurant. Soon after completing his course, he migrated to Canada. Now in the US.

  106. calli

    On cultural cr*pola – what the hell are ooshies?

    Are they the new Coca Cola yo-yo? Without the prospect of miniscule exercise.

  107. Makka

    How do skilled workers drive down the general wage level?

    Bring in tens of thousands annually of these so called “skilled workers” all clambering for jobs in this almost deadgrowth economy ( more or less negative per capita) and work it out for yourself.

    Twostix, supply and demand for labour or skills (the shortage of which doesn’t exists) conveniently doesn’t exist in dotty’s world because it interferes with his higher priority which is his fervent desire to have open borders. dotty just wants more Indians in Australia. It’s all good! Lol.

  108. Nick

    The old vehicle registration branch (VicRoads) was a case in point.
    Exclusively sub-continental.
    How did that happen?

    Agree. A prison van made a stop outside the District Court, recently. The prison guard who hopped out look like Virat Kohli’s brother.

  109. Twostix

    On a scale of 1 – 10 of problems we have indian mass migration is about a 2 going on 3.5 at this time.

  110. Nick

    I recently bought some garden lounges from a decent provider. Delivery was $100 and outsourced, delivered by two subcontinentals who’s English was basic and attitude stank. They refused to carry it indoors or unpack it and carry it inside. I sent it back with them to the depot.

  111. cohenite

    Fix it or we’ll throw Constitution into sea

    Paige Taylor The Australian August 2, 2019

    One of Australia’s most respected Aboriginal leaders, Galarrwuy ­Yunupingu, has made what he ­describes as a final demand for substantive constitutional reforms, threatening that the Yolngu people of Arnhem Land will throw the nation’s founding document into the sea if change does not come soon.

    In a strident speech to open the Garma festival on Aboriginal land in the far northeast corner of the Northern Territory late yesterday, Dr Yunupingu issued his warning directly to the face of Minister for Indigenous Australians Ken Wyatt, who was in the front row of the audience. The two men were facing each other and seated almost knee to knee — Dr Yunupingu in his wheelchair — when the Yolngu leader said, “Enough is enough”.

    “We are thinking of our Constitution, how we can change it and make it a real law for Yolngu people as well as Balanda (non-­indigenous) people,” he said.

    “We are doing that, asking for the rights to be accepted by the commonwealth government and by everybody else.”

    Dr Yunupingu’s father, Mungurrawuy, was one of the painters of the 1963 Yirrkala bark petitions protesting the loss of land — also known as the Bark Treaty — that hang in Parliament House and are regarded as a form of title.

    Yesterday, Dr Yunupingu said the Constitution rejected his people. He told the crowd at the annual celebration of indigenous culture that Mr Wyatt had agreed to tell the government what his people wanted.

    “If they don’t come to us with an answer, we will tell you what we going to do, what the Yolngu people going to do,” he said.

    “We will dismiss the Constitution … we thrown it out of Australia into the saltwater,” he said.

    “It will be wonderful. The Yolngu people will stand on the land and see if that document will float away into the ocean. That’s what is going to happen.”

    Dr Yunupingu is understood to broadly support the 2017 Uluru Statement from the Heart, which includes a call for constitutional recognition and an indigenous voice to parliament enshrined in the Constitution. Dr Yunupingu has never explicitly called for the voice in public and Mr Wyatt said yesterday that he had not asked for it in their talks, but the Gumatj clan leader’s calls for substantial constitutional reform are likely to buoy Uluru backers. With Dr ­Yunupingu’s consent, actor Jack Thompson read the entire Uluru statement to the Garma audience at the opening ceremony yesterday….

    https://www.facebook.com/vincent.beaufort.9/posts/2440161449339046

    I think it’s time the 58th nations moved on.

  112. calli

    What would you put in the 8-10 category, ‘stix?

  113. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    One-quarter of negative real per capita GDP growth doesn’t disprove standard economic analysis Makka.

    Immigration of skilled workers does not reduce the general wage level.

    You simply don’t understand this. It is not a difficult concept to grasp.

  114. Tel

    Who at immigration let them in without realising any of this? Either there is a widespread internal culture of covering up for lying friends and coutrymen in this group which outwits our professional background investigators, or the dept of immigration is corrupted and waving them through.

    You are talking about the same Commonwealth government that has spent gadzillions on submarines and we still don’t have an operational fleet, with contracts for even more spending to come.

    The same Commonwealth that donated to the Clinton Foundation.

    The ones who think that if they cut just interest rates a few more times it will turn things around.

    The people who are transitioning our economy to windmills and solar cells while nodding sternly about how serious this carbon dioxide business is … then zooming around the world in jet aircraft.

    Of course they are gonna screw up any decision making they have in front of them. That much is a given … question is what we do once that’s taken into account.

  115. Makka

    On a scale of 1 – 10 of problems we have indian mass migration is about a 2 going on 3.5 at this time.

    Mass migration , our ridiculous energy predicament and the money confiscated by Govts to fund their growth are by far the 3 biggest problems this country faces. The UNiparty still runs this joint as they all support all 3 of those cancers in our midst.

  116. Tel

    Immigration of skilled workers does not reduce the general wage level.

    There’s no such thing as a general wage level.

    There’s the wages I get paid, and the wages I have to pay other people to get things done. Two totally separate concepts.

  117. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    A$AP Rocky released from prison and on his way home to the United States from Sweden. It was a Rocky Week, get home ASAP A$AP!

    Thank God that good Christian boy is free!
    Praise Jesus!

  118. John Constantine

    Australia has progressed from the clumsy corruption of the hole in the wall universities migration Rort.

    Australia in 2019 now has race based migration agents working for race based migration cartels operating under concession from the Australian State, to sell race based clients Australian citizenship for cents in the dollar.

    Being a race based migration agent, openly apartheid segregated in your client base is big business, and Australia’s elites designed it this way.

    Recruiting voters that understand that pay to play when dealing with the State makes Australia the true penal colony ruled by truly corrupt Rum Corps, just as their kleptocracy needs.

  119. MatrixTransform

    My general impression is that you are an incoherent mysogonist who abuses decent people like Dover beach

    what gives you the impression that anybody gives a flying fuck what you think?

    I’d wager that most here are trying to ascertain if you can actually reason … in the classic sense of the word.

  120. MatrixTransform

    ps dover-beach is full of shit … same as you.

  121. Makka

    One-quarter of negative real per capita GDP growth doesn’t disprove standard economic analysis Makka

    More than just one;

    Australia has just recorded its second straight quarter where the economy shrank on a per capita basis.

    Removing the impact of population growth from fourth quarter GDP figures, the economy declined by 0.2 per cent in the three months to the end of the year, following a 0.1 per cent decline in the three months to September. March 2019

    dotty, the RBA already admits wages GROWTH is suppressed by immigration and the resulting influx of labor. You can argue the semantics over whatever you like. It’s clearly too difficult a concept for you to grasp. And of course it won’t disprove your economic analysis dotty, because under no circumstances must reality interfere with your open borders ideology.

  122. Leigh Lowe

    Overnight we have seen what happens when a sub-continental gets a Cert IV in Clickit Umpiring (with his cousin sitting the test).

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    Mater, 6.59 am;

    Bang on, as far as I’m concerned.

    God help me, but there are some things Liability Bob posts that are germane to the discussion, posits a reasonable point of view, are thought-provoking, and I remember one particular post he put up after the Broward County school shooting in Florida that was genuinely insightful.

    Not quite enough for me to remember its content, but insightful nonetheless.

    Sure, he colours pretty much everything with his cause du jour (or century) which is a direct and personal insult to many, myself included, but if you take that away he’s a retired schoolteacher with the exact mindset you’d expect of someone that’s had a lifetime of indoctrinating children. Nothing more.

    I was lurking here for a lot longer than I’ve been posting, and if people think that the vigour of discussion with (and, unfortunately, about) Four Leaf Tayback is over the top, I would assert that it’s much more refined than some of the barneys going on here in the past – involving many of the current punters.

    I think, though, that claims that ‘if you bite back he’s won’ are a bit juvenile. It’s like turning the other cheek too much, and it actually incites worse comments from the muppets in attempts to draw a response.

    And of course he’s playing on it. I certainly would if I was him *gives evil eye in mirror*, but ignoring him isn’t the answer. Robust debate should be encouraged, and people wailing ‘abuse’ when it’s actually disagreement are in my view a bit precious and shouldn’t be going to the shops to buy milk, let alone post here. You put your head up on this forum, be prepared to have it kicked, preferably by people who know the subject matter better than you.

    He rarely abuses people, and is rarely personally abused on subjects that aren’t relevant. Only one poster referred to his family, and was rightly shut down by others instead of Mr Lord. Which is good.

    In my experience, the environment here has been far worse historically. It’s like nota’s Indian immigration point of view. Sure, it’s suboptimal right now but compared to ten years ago it’s heavenly. There’s only one recent poster who, on having drunk too much red cordial decides to invent personal lives of other posters and appoint them as septuagenarian fat flaccid ropist child exploiting predatory sewer rats with the morality of Goebbels – and intertwines it with dodgy software, profanity and asterisks.

    And even she’s easy pickings and retreats.

    I for one am really pleased this forum’s here. Long may it live and prosper, and if anyone thinks it’s fallen beneath them – well, I’ll see you at vespers.

  124. Leigh Lowe

    There’s only one recent poster who, on having drunk too much red cordial decides to invent personal lives of other posters and appoint them as septuagenarian fat flaccid ropist child exploiting predatory sewer rats with the morality of Goebbels – and intertwines it with dodgy software, profanity and asterisks.

    I don’t remember doing that.
    Must have been really hammered.

  125. Top Ender

    Only fair:

    A radicalised inmate who carved an Islamic State-inspired message into the forehead of his cellmate has been sentenced to 34 years in prison for the “hateful and cruel” attack.

    If you want to go to the story you’ll need to copy the link below and remove the space from the Moosli word:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-02/inmate-is lamic-state-message-carved-message-sentenced/11378262?WT.ac=statenews_nsw

  126. Top Ender

    Only fair:

    A radicalised inmate who carved an Is lamic State-inspired message into the forehead of his cellmate has been sentenced to 34 years in prison for the “hateful and cruel” attack.

    If you want to go to the story you’ll need to copy the link below and remove the space from the Moosli word:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-02/inmate-is lamic-state-message-carved-message-sentenced/11378262?WT.ac=statenews_nsw

  127. calli

    ps dover-beach is full of shit … same as you.

    So there!

    😁

  128. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look if any of you wish to live in a low trust society full of people unable to communicate with you, good luck to you.
    F$ck off to London or Malmo or Cape Town.
    This is Australia.
    It’s bad enough trying to understand Kiwis as it is.

  129. Leigh Lowe

    OK.
    A fortnight ago The Great Orange One forced the Dimocrats into locking in behind the Four Bint Resistance.
    Now he has sucker-punched them into backing uber-shyster and race-baiter Al Sharpton.
    By Christmas he’ll have them backing Charlie Manson and Osama bin Laden.

  130. John Constantine

    Australia’s navy, I was going to do a long post, but never did.

    American friend alerted me to the pinch point the American navy has, where it takes a year to repair a damaged naval vessel to operational status.

    Shipyards capable of repairing a billion dollar ship hit by a hundred thousand dollar drone inside of a year get swamped after the first half dozen drone strikes.

    Imagine trying to repair an Australian naval vessel in an Australian shipyard.

    Over summer holidays.

    Comrades.

    As Mike Tyson said, everybody’s got a plan until they get hit.

    Comrades.

  131. miltonf

    You are talking about the same Commonwealth government that has spent gadzillions on submarines and we still don’t have an operational fleet, with contracts for even more spending to come.

    The same Commonwealth that donated to the Clinton Foundation.

    The ones who think that if they cut just interest rates a few more times it will turn things around.

    The people who are transitioning our economy to windmills and solar cells while nodding sternly about how serious this carbon dioxide business is … then zooming around the world in jet aircraft.

    Of course they are gonna screw up any decision making they have in front of them. That much is a given … question is what we do once that’s taken into account.

    Spot on Tel. The malicious incompetence of that abomination known as Canberra.

  132. Tel

    God help me, but there are some things Liability Bob posts that are germane to the discussion, posits a reasonable point of view, are thought-provoking, and I remember one particular post he put up after the Broward County school shooting in Florida that was genuinely insightful.

    He has a certain earnestness in his hateful blame game. Unfortunately he never checks anything and gets offended and huffy when other people call him out on the many things he gets wrong.

    I guess at least he’s a real person … putting him above the endless Sock Army.

  133. JC

    Trades Hall

    There is no such thing as a per capita recession. Hi, hi wages 🙂

    Check your cfmeu membership if you’re paid up.

  134. Bruce of Newcastle

    A$AP Rocky released from prison and on his way home to the United States from Sweden.

    Being released from a third world prison is always a relief.

    Sweden’s Biggest Cities Face Power Shortage After Fuel-Tax Hike – ‘Tax aimed at phasing out nation’s last remaining coal & gas plants to curb global warming’ (2 Aug)

    Sweden’s introduction on Thursday of a tax aimed at phasing out the nation’s last remaining coal and gas plants to curb global warming comes with an unintended consequence for some of its biggest cities.

    Hiking threefold a levy on fossil fuels used at local power plants will make such facilities unprofitable and utilities from Stockholm Exergi AB to EON SE have said they will halt or cut power production.

    Maybe this is a plan to get all those country shoppers to go home, where they’ll have better and cheaper electricity.

  135. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ramirez was the best one for me today, Tom. It resonated with our recent election here – the one you didn’t like much sounded a whole lot better when compared to the loons on the left when it came down to the ballot box. In the American context this cartoon signals what is happening now in Trump’s America: a lot of people are beginning to get used to him and find him basically pretty OK. TDS is slowly going away.

  136. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Spectator Index
    @spectatorindex

    People practising open defecation, 2015.

    Eritrea: 76%
    South Sudan: 60%
    India: 39%
    Nepal: 29%
    Ethiopia: 27%
    Nigeria: 25%
    Indonesia: 12%
    Pakistan: 12%
    Philippines: 5.7%
    Venezuela: 4.9%
    Colombia: 3.9%
    Vietnam: 3.9%
    Sri Lanka: 2.6%
    Brazil: 2%
    Mexico: 1.7%
    China: 1.5%

    (World Bank)

    Share of population living at below $1.9 a day, 2018.

    🇨🇩DRC: 77.1%
    🇳🇬NGR: 53.5%
    🇮🇳IND: 21.2%
    🇿🇦RSA: 18.9%
    🇲🇨INA: 6.5%
    🇧🇷BRA: 3.4%
    🇲🇽MEX: 2.5%
    🇨🇳CHN: 1.4%
    🇺🇸USA: 1.3%
    🇮🇹ITA: 1.2%
    🇪🇸ESP: 1.0%
    🇸🇪SWE: 0.5%
    🇦🇺AUS: 0.3%
    🇨🇦CAN: 0.3%
    🇬🇧GBR: 0.2%
    🇯🇵JPN: 0.2%
    🇫🇷FRA: 0%

    (World Bank)

    Number of deaths from household air pollution, 2017.

    🇮🇳IND: 481K
    🇨🇳CHN: 271K
    🇧🇩BAN: 70K
    🇮🇩INA: 68K
    🇳🇬NGR: 64K
    🇵🇰PAK: 59K
    🇵🇭PHI: 42K
    🇦🇫AFG: 19K
    🇧🇷BRA: 12K
    🇺🇦UKR: 3K
    🇩🇪GER: 599
    🇪🇸ESP: 522
    🇺🇸USA: 508
    🇷🇺RUS: 382
    🇬🇧GBR: 348
    🇫🇷FRA: 145
    🇯🇵JPN: 117
    🇨🇦CAN: 18
    🇰🇷KOR: 12
    🇸🇬SIN: 2

    (IHM)

    Share of population living at below $5.5 a day, 2018.

    🇳🇬NGR: 92.1%
    🇮🇳IND: 86.8%
    🇵🇰PAK: 79.5%
    🇮🇩INA: 62.3%
    🇿🇦RSA: 57.1%
    🇲🇽MEX: 34.8%
    🇨🇳CHN: 31.5%
    🇧🇷BRA: 19.4%
    🇹🇷TUR: 9.9%
    🇪🇸ESP: 3.2%
    🇷🇺RUS: 2.7%
    🇺🇸USA: 2.0%
    🇯🇵JPN: 1.0%
    🇬🇧GRB: 0.7%
    🇩🇪GER: 0.3%
    🇳🇴NOR: 0.2%
    🇫🇷FRA: 0.1%

    (World Bank)

    Share of people who think their children will be better off financially than their parents, 2017. (%)

    🇮🇳IND: 76%
    🇵🇭PHI: 61%
    🇮🇩INA: 58%
    🇵🇱POL: 48%
    🇸🇪SWE: 44%
    🇺🇸USA: 37%
    🇩🇪GER: 36%
    🇰🇷KOR: 34%
    🇨🇦CAN: 24%
    🇪🇸ESP: 24%
    🇬🇧GBR: 24%
    🇮🇹ITA: 23%
    🇯🇵JPN: 19%
    🇫🇷FRA: 9%

    (Pew Research Center)

    Access to clean fuels and technologies for cooking, 2016.

    🇺🇸USA: 100%
    🇩🇪GER: 100%
    🇯🇵JPN: 100%
    🇫🇷FRA: 100%
    🇬🇧GBR: 100%
    🇷🇺RUS: 98%
    🇰🇷KOR: 96%
    🇸🇦KSA: 95%
    🇧🇷BRA: 95%
    🇲🇽MEX: 85%
    🇹🇭THA: 74%
    🇨🇳CHN: 59%
    🇮🇩INA: 58%
    🇵🇰PAK: 43%
    🇮🇳IND: 41%
    🇦🇫AFG: 32%
    🇳🇬NGR: 5%
    🇨🇫CAF: 1%

    (World Bank)

    Share of population with development intellectual disability, 2017.

    🇮🇳IND: 4.4%
    🇦🇫AFG: 4.1%
    🇾🇪YEM: 3.5%
    🇸🇩SUD: 3.4%
    🇪🇬EGY: 2.1%
    🇸🇾SYR: 1.9%
    🇲🇦MAR: 1.6%
    🇪🇸ESP: 1.4%
    🇩🇿ALG: 1.3%
    🇵🇰PAK: 1.1%
    🇮🇷IRI: 1.1%
    🇺🇸USA: 0.5%
    🇬🇧GBR: 0.4%
    🇫🇷FRA: 0.4%
    🇩🇪GER: 0.2%
    🇯🇵JPN: 0.2%
    🇩🇰DEN: 0.1%

    (IHME)

  137. Tel

    Maybe this is a plan to get all those country shoppers to go home, where they’ll have better and cheaper electricity.

    Common strategy when trying to win a game of chicken is convince the other guy that you are crazy.

  138. max

    Just opened Target email. The male clothes models have tattoos all over them ..

    Yes, watching the cricketers it seems that fad hasn’t completely taken over there, though Australians have more than the poms. AFL is tattoo city. None at Wimbledon that I noticed. No golfers sport them. No swimmers that I’ve seen. How about lawn bowls, Arma ?

  139. Ellie

    There seem to be a lot of libertarians who dwell only in the land of theory and whose positions don’t stand scrutiny in the cold light.

  140. Knuckle Dragger

    Very true Tel.

    Nobody, but nobody wants to fight the crazy man.

  141. JC

    Trades Hall

    There is no such thing as a per capital recession for one obvious reason.

    STFU and go lathe a piece of steel.
    Hi, hi wages.

  142. Nob

    The France low income numbers look like bullshit. No way is it better than Norway in that regard.

    Small % , I know.

  143. Knuckle Dragger

    And before I’m orf to the criggit, where I hope to do marginally better than those two dorks from last night (I’m quite surprised at Aleem Dar btw, usually he’s gold);

    I’m yet to see anyone actually win an argument here. I’ve seen plenty claim victory, and plenty more painted into some pretty small corners, but I can’t recall anyone saying words to the effect of ‘you know what, I’ve been wrong all this time. You win, and my apologies for disturbing you in the first place.’

    It’s not that sort of blog.

  144. Leigh Lowe

    We need a dedicated introspection thread.
    Call me when it is done.

  145. Makka

    Ah, the other open borders loony pops up from the 15th floor apartment in NY . Gotta have that cheap labour, right numpty bankster? Fk off back to RE pawn, airhead.

  146. JC

    Trades Hall spouts economic rubbish. He’s also a hypocrite.
    Hi, hi wages.

  147. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m yet to see anyone actually win an argument here. I’ve seen plenty claim victory, and plenty more painted into some pretty small corners, but I can’t recall anyone saying words to the effect of ‘you know what, I’ve been wrong all this time. You win, and my apologies for disturbing you in the first place.’

    That’s because you are old and blind and possibly have syphilis from all your Tinder shenanigans.
    You can’t even look after your own cricket gear.
    I am wrong and apologize all the time.
    Literally every day.
    I am uncommonly wise, bald, agile, and mature for my young age.

  148. Zyconoclast

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    3h
    A$AP Rocky released from prison and on his way home to the United States from Sweden. It was a Rocky Week, get home ASAP A$AP!

    @rse-clown

  149. Shy Ted

    First Ken Wyatt, now David Hurley calling for constitutional recognition. I think we need to assume any appointment ScoMo makes will be a disappointment.

  150. Muddy

    calli
    #3121920, posted on August 3, 2019 at 5:40 am

    Here I am, at sparrow’s, up and ready to walk the derg. But there is no derg. I will have to get used to it.

    For what it is worth, you have my sympathy, Calli.
    I cannot imagine being without my derg. The life of a neurotic, twitchy-fingered hermit would not be the same without her. I am convinced that several identities here are her sock puppets though. Her demands for privacy when tapping the keyboard are too coincidental. As are the constant glances over her shoulder and the snickering. Smart girl.
    #dogsaresuperiorpeople

  151. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    First Ken Wyatt, now David Hurley calling for constitutional recognition. I think we need to assume any appointment ScoMo makes will be a disappointment.

    Bring on the referendum.

  152. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    He has a certain earnestness in his hateful blame game.

    It’s the hateful blame game that makes Numbers a troll not worth considering in spite of any useful facts or insights. I scroll so I guess I miss them; others says they are there. I scroll because struggling through the turgid left-wing premises to it all is simply a waste of time and source of regret for people who have been there in their salad days, seen it for the hypocritical bloviating that it actually is, and moved on. That would describe many Cats.

    For me, it is like engaging in political debate with my ex, who is an OK man these days, kind and well-meaning in fact, but stuck seeking personal meaning in weird ‘cultural elite’ cultist thinking to counter his leftist-driven political dead-end of a largely unfounded eco-apocalypse. To me he seems like Numbers, rather lost and very sad in his older age. Numbers is worse though, because he uses anger to cope. There is enough anger on the Cat already at times, without us being trolled by it too. Scroll. Do not reply.

  153. Shy Ted

    1986, just arrived from England and in the NSW vehicle rego place. had to tell the Asian clerk I couldn’t understand her and could I have an English-speaking employee. Request granted, got licence and a date and a quite blissful relationship for the next few years. Now that’s what I call service.

  154. Zyconoclast

    There is no indian subclass attending ghost tertiary institutions while working in low pay cash jobs and living in overcrowded apartments here in Australia.

    I made it all up, all by myself.

    You spot on. Except the making it up bit.

  155. Black Ball

    Good morning.
    So Victoria apparently have become a net importer of electricity and resulting in huge increases in power. Indians taking er jerbs and Australia getting a reaming in the Ashes. Collingwood are on the ropes and I am off to cold Lalbert to report on that match against Tooleybuc Manangatang which has a huge bearing on finals positions.
    But on the bright side, Trump is still President.

  156. feelthebern

    The Cat used to critical, challenging, respectful (mostly) and witty. If we want to examine what changed, this would be a start.

    I blame all the talk about chicks waxing their testicles.

  157. feelthebern

    Mark Levin has Niall Ferguson on his show tomorrow.
    One to record.

  158. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I cannot imagine being without my derg.

    A friend of mine, fairly recently widowed, has found a tremendous joy in life again after adopting two little puppies. They keep her busy with their romping, the naughty little boys, welcome her home, they’re digging her garden to bits when they are allowed out, and they adore her. The feeling is mutual. She is looking happy once more. Puppy school looms.

    Calli, jet lag as we get a little bit more into our Certain Age that ladies have, is an absolute bummer. I find now it takes me a couple of weeks to get back to my already less than perfect sleep routine after a long trip away upside down in time. There are organisations where you can ‘borrow’ a dog for a while as a carer, so you don’t waste the walkies hours. Or borrow one from a neighbor. All dogs love an extra walk.

  159. Stimpson J. Cat

    What Catallaxy needs is more Aldi Catalogue discussions.

  160. feelthebern

    Some cracking reads on zero hedge this morning.
    They’ve hit a purple patch.

  161. zyconoclast

    This blokes name keeps popping up

    King Island, in Bass Strait, generates 50 per cent of its energy from wind and solar power 2019

    King Island, in Bass Strait, generates 50 per cent of its energy from wind and solar power
    “The unit will be about 7 metres wide … 15 metres front to back and sits in 6 metres of water,” Wave Swell Energy chief executive Tom Denniss said.

    Renewable energy trial provides King Island with free power 2017

    The group has built what Wave Swell chief executive Tom Denniss described as “big concrete caverns”, which use the constant back and forth flow of the ocean to generate energy

    Weekend storms wreck wave generator (2016)

    Oceanlinx went bust in 2014, owing secured creditors $7 million and investors a further $3 million.

    Tom Denniss founded a company to commercialise that technology (originally named Energetech Australia Pty Ltd in 1997, later changed to Oceanlinx Ltd in 2007) 2014

  162. notafan

    My holyday by Dr Boregan aged ate and free corters

    This year I went on holliday to kuba, I went by miself becos I am old for my age.

    I went on an aroplain it tok a long tim but I got their in the end.

    koouba is very nice lots of the bildings are old and broke

    I rented a apartmeant from a man called ozziebell He iis nice. The parement is nice. I can have a shower in my artment. It is nice. Eveeryon likks my shower. It is nice.

    I slept in the bed. The bedd is nice. I got up and whent for a nic wak . I bort a mango it was atey sents . it was nic I bough an icecrem it as 3 cucks. The icerem was nic. I bort some sigars I went to the parck I smocked the sigars. I taugked to people on my fone.

    I met a gurl called marria I gave her mi fone number maria is buetiful with a fat botm and plum legs.

    I went back to the aprratment

    In the mouning I woke up and ate my mando. It was nic and warked to the paarc an smoke a sigar I txted maria she txts me bac I texted her bak then she txted me bac

    I sed met me at 5 maria sed she would get a taxy. Mairia I sdum becase she cant spell taxy rite. I wated an wated an wated mraia came at 6.45

    I waned to eet the local cosine so we went to a chinise restrant
    . I had sprin roles, maria had somethin diferent, I had sometimg wif rise I don rember the name mari had something diferent we dranc som drincs the drincs wer not very nice.
    Maria went homin a taxy I wallked home

    The nect day I went for a wark and smoke sigars in the parc and loked at th3 childrun

    The nect day In the mouning I woke up and ate my mando and warked to the paarc an smoke a sigar I txted maria she txts me bac I texted her bak then she txted me bac

    I sed met me at 5 maria sed she would get a taxy. I wated an wated an wated mraia came at 6.45

    I waned to eet the local cosine so we went to a chinise restrant
    . I had sprin roles, maria had somethin diferent, I had sometimg wif rise I don rember the name mari had something diferent we dranc som drincs the drincs wer not very nice.
    Maria went homin a taxy I wallked
    The nect day In the mouning I woke up and ate my mando and warked to the paarc an smoke a sigar I txted maria she txts me bac I texted her bak then she txted me bac. I att anoter mago. I wnt to bed.
    The nect day In the mouning I woke up and ate my mando and warked to the paarc an smoke a sigar I txted maria she txts me bac I texted her bak then she txted me bac

    I sed met me at 5 maria sed she would get a taxy. I wated an wated an wated mraia didunt com

    I went to the chinise restrant
    . I had sprin roles, , I had sometimg wif rise I don rember the name he drincs wer not very nice.

    The nect day In the mouning I woke up and ate my mando and warked to the paarc an smoke a sigar I txted maria she txts me bac I texted her bak then she txted me bac

    I sed met me at 5 maria sed she would get a taxy. I wayted an wated an wated mraia came at 6.45

    . I had sprin roles, maria had somethin diferent, I had sometimg wif rise I don rember the name mari had something diferent we dranc som drincs the drincs wer not very nice.
    The nect day In the mouning I woke up and ate my mando and warked to the paarc an smoke a sigar I txted maria she txts me bac I texted her bak then she txted me bac

    I sed met me at 5 maria sed she would get a taxy. I wated an wated an wated mraia came at 6.45

    I waned to eet the local cosine so we went to a chinise restrant
    . I had sprin roles, maria had somethin diferent, I had sometimg wif rise I don rember the name mari had something diferent we dranc som drincs the drincs wer not very nice.

    The nect day In the mouning I woke up and ate my mando and warked to the paarc an smoke a sigar I txted maria she txts me bac I texted her bak then she txted me bac

    I sed met me at 5 maria sed she would get a taxy. I wayted an wated an wated mraia came at 6.45
    I had sprin roles, maria had somethin diferent, I had sometimg wif rise I don rember the name mari had something diferent we dranc som drincs the drincs wer not very nice. Maria wen hom in a taxy I warked home it was reigning I got weet my fone didunt worc I gav it toozzzibal he putt it in rise but it was stil brokun.
    i gave mi fone to a diferent man but it was stil brokn. He tryed to fiz I t with a liter I goit it bck and gived it to mria nou I am, wating for maia to ive it bak.

    Nou I don liik maria maris is not nise maria has my fone. She sed she wood giv it bac

    It was a relly grate exitng aventur loliday I enjoid it a lot I now everthing abot kuba
    The end

  163. zyconoclast

    Wave energy companies are like zombies that want to consume investors funds (which is OK) and taxpayer subsides (not OK)

    Carnegie Clean Energy enters administration after Albany wave farm contract scrapped

    and a short time later

    Carnegie puts out call to investors as it seeks to reboot wave energy plans

  164. Shy Ted

    Stimpy made me do it. Shall I tell you a very sad tale of syphilis? Feel free not to read. In the last week of a 2 year stint in a remote indigenous community a lady who held a prominent defacto position approached me and told me her toddler “wasn’t right. The community has come to trust you.” Upstanding, responsible lady so I doubted FASD. Asked what I needed to ask and went through the medical files. Hubby a prominent player with a penchant for the ladies would be one way of putting it. Lady returns as requested – “need to do some blood tests on all your family. And everyone you’ve ever had sex with” says I. “I’ve only ever had sex with my husband. Please tell me what you suspect,” she implores. “Congenital syphilis in your little’un and the rest we shall have to wait and see.” Terrible day all round.
    Some years later a not dissimilar scenario. Not nice telling nice ladies their husbands, well, you know.

  165. zyconoclast

    There Is No Epidemic of Racist Police Shootings

    A new study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences demolishes the Democratic narrative regarding race and police shootings, which holds that white officers are engaged in an epidemic of racially biased shootings of black men. It turns out that white officers are no more likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot black civilians. It is a racial group’s rate of violent crime that determines police shootings, not the race of the officer. The more frequently officers encounter violent suspects from any given racial group, the greater the chance that members of that racial group will be shot by a police officer. In fact, if there is a bias in police shootings after crime rates are taken into account, it is against white civilians, the study found.

  166. Leigh Lowe:

    What is the word for “qwerty” in Mandarin?

    Re-education camp.

    Obviously the lessons from the “Hundred Flowers Campaign.” didn’t sink in.

  167. Tom

    Calli, I agree with Lizzie. Borrow a dog to take on morning walks.

    The natural world is a constant cycle of life and death.

  168. Ellie

    Ok Stimpson, let’s talk about Aldi.

    Link

  169. DrBeauGan

    I don’t know how I came to fascinate you so much, Notaclue. It’s a mystery. You certainly don’t fascinate me. I feel a bit sorry for you.

  170. zyconoclast

    Robot racism? Yes, says a study showing humans’ biases extend to robots

    “Robots And Racism,” a study conducted by the Human Interface Technology Laboratory in New Zealand (HIT Lab NZ) and published by the country’s University of Canterbury, suggests people perceive physically human-like robots to have a race and therefore apply racial stereotypes to white and black robots.
    These colors have been found to trigger social cues that determine how humans react to and behave toward other people and also, apparently, robots.
    “The bias against black robots is a result of bias against African-Americans,” lead researcher Christoph Bartneck explained to The Next Web. He told CNN, “It is amazing to see how people who had no prior interaction with robots show racial bias towards them.”

  171. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I am uncommonly wise, bald, agile, and mature for my young age.

    Well yes. Yes, you are.
    They do say that baldness is simply the brain expanding as wisdom increases, driving out the space-wasting hair follicles. These people who ‘say’ *being male of course. Early baldness simply supports your case. 🙂

    * no refereed publications as yet, but well-authenticated by pub talk, despite female scepticism

  172. Ellie

    Stimpson, I replied to your Aldi comment at 11:06am, but it is in moderation. I blame the Germans!

  173. Roger

    Headlines you’ll never see:

    Aboriginal extremist threatens secession if demands not met

    Aboriginal leader’s divisive, racist rant earns public rebuke from prime minister

    Actual ABC headline:

    Garma Festival now the most influential indigenous forum in Australia

    I think we can see where this is heading.

  174. BrettW

    If Australia signs treaties with the 300 odd First Nation tribes / clans / mobs etc does this mean the Aboriginal flag now flying over most Government buildings etc will be replaced by flag of the local nation ?

    Can’t have it both ways.

    Did I miss the bit pre election where the parties were campaigning for treaties, reconciliation, etc ?

    Isn’t Hurley’s job supposed to involve not having an opinion on political matters ?

  175. We need a dedicated introspection thread.

    Has anybody else found lint in their navel?

  176. Gilas

    I’m having a real hard time deciding who’s the worse poster here:

    1) Numbnutz, and the oodles of wasted comments he elicits, polluting and ruining the last few hundred OTs

    or

    2) Nota, that old sanctimonious scold, who has unresolved issues with older men still wanting to be men.

    I will now await, with deep-seated fear, their withering comebacks…

    Anytime…

  177. egg_

    Any luck Australia will be even more mired in Indian style government corruption and bribery in a decade or so.

    Will?
    NSW Transport IT are 90% Injun and not by chance.
    It’s recently been outsourced to NEC, with a far smaller Injun Mafia.
    It’s the second largest IT Dept in the Southern Hemisphere – behind NSW ‘elf, which I’m sure is a similar Injun Mafia.
    Next?

  178. Roger

    Isn’t Hurley’s job supposed to involve not having an opinion on political matters ?

    What did he say and where?

    I can’t find any report, even on the ABC news site.

  179. egg_

    Has anybody else found lint in their navel?

    I’ve got Nigella’s lint in my navel.

  180. Bruce of Newcastle

    Borrow a dog to take on morning walks.

    Or take food and make friends with the local birdies. It works very well, except your walk then takes twice as long as you keep on having to stop for the next bunch.

    My Saturday morning was made fun by son-of-butcherbird, who landed on my shoulder for the first time ever. His son, son-of-son-of-butcherbird, perched on my arm Thursday for the first time. Sadly grandad is no longer around to see such things since his son drove him out of his territory a few years ago and took it. No filial respect in grey butcherbirddom.

    Commiserations Calli for the passing of your faithful friend.

  181. zyconoclast

    A$AP Rocky – Gunz N Butter Lyrics

    Swingin’ by the tires leave a third degree
    And I heard theres bouncin’ [email protected] hatin’ wanna murder me
    They gon’ have to take me straight to Satan cause’ I’m blessin’ this
    I fell the stress, I feel no stress
    I built this trust
    They won’t come murder me
    Hercules

    [Verse 1: A$AP Rocky]
    Mama warned me pop was on me
    Acid shorty (shut the fvck up)
    Get get gettin’ guap before when I was fourteen Glock was forty
    Bounce your jaw for plottin’ on me
    Hot bologna grits with
    Problems copper hoppin’ on me
    Cheese from government-ment (what that mean?)
    Prada on me choppers on me crock on Maury kicks kicks (word)
    God was for me locks was on me
    Blew up ever since then (okay okay)
    Grew up ever since then
    Screwed up ever since then
    Do-ups up ever since then
    (Kill ’em Flacko)
    Nah big homie
    [?]
    Money outta pocket homie (money outta pocket)
    All these [email protected] pockets homie
    Chopper let ’em live
    I was only six when I crept up in the crip
    Found it sick what I did what I did (Oh!)
    C0ck it homie
    Now its in my pocket homie
    R-Rock it homie
    Dare you [email protected] t-try try me homie
    For the love of spread
    I’mma butter bread
    Man I prolly should be dead
    Was it ’cause of what I said?
    What I

    [Bridge: A$AP Rocky]
    Uzi, FN, Ruger, Draco
    Euros, Pounds and Dollars, Pesos
    Money, hoes and power, Draco
    Violence, rifle, shotguns, Draco

    [Sample: Project Pat]
    Now can’t a [email protected] see I ain’t got no time for games
    I’m on this Hennessey and I’m quick to shoot dat thang
    But fuck that one of my young [email protected] ’ill take tha charge
    I’m stackin’ loot muthafuck lookin’ behind some bars

    [Interlude: Hector Delgado]
    Rocky Rocky
    Hold on one second bro
    Ha Rocky, it’s Hector bro
    Rocky this is Hector bro
    We gotta hold on one second bro
    Theres an issue goin’ on back here

    [Verse 2: A$AP Rocky]
    Rambo was a cathy
    And mama was a christian
    My papa turned to m00slim when he spent some time in prison
    (no cappin’)
    No Jeh0va’s witnesses but I’m from kinda different
    They don’t leave no witnesses so folks just mind they business
    These days I just practice all the good from all religion
    So plead the fifth amendment or you’re gonna be the victim

    [Verse 3: A$AP Rocky]
    So get up off my YKK
    The president a a-hole (Fvck off)
    Prayin’ for a JFK
    All we got was KKK

    AKA AK that you target not from Target but from Walmart
    Then it’s a-ok
    Fvck them boys no KY with this SK leave them DOA
    AR in the ER its the state of mind of every state
    Say your grace you better pray

    [Verse 4: A$AP Rocky & Juicy J]
    Guns with the butter
    Guns for my brother
    Came from the gutter
    Cocaine in the buttocks
    Raise a box cutter
    Play undercover
    Paint in the hummer
    Skate wit’ your mother

    [Refrain: Project Pat]
    Tha fact of tha matter she blow out tha frizzame
    I keep me some powder so I’m gettin brizzain
    Tha fact of tha matter she blow out tha frizzame
    I keep me some powder so I’m gettin brizzain
    Tha fact of tha matter she blow out tha frizzame
    I keep me some powder so I’m gettin brizzain
    Tha fact of tha matter she blow out tha frizzame
    I keep me some powder so I’m gettin brizzain

    [Outro]
    What’s really butter?
    The gun or the putter?
    You hear me?
    You understand what I’m sayin’?
    What’s really butter?
    What’s really butter?
    What’s really butter?
    Guns [?] get that butter

  182. Leigh Lowe

    First Ken Wyatt, now David Hurley calling for constitutional recognition. 

    David Hurley is paid to play dress-ups, cut ribbons and shut the fuck up about politics.

  183. Stimpson J. Cat

    I can honestly say I never expected Notafan to be able to channel Lizzie, BeauGan, and None to create such an epic tale of adventure.
    😁

  184. Leigh Lowe

    Tom

    #3122123, posted on August 3, 2019 at 11:03 am

    Calli, I agree with Lizzie. Borrow a dog to take on morning walks.

    Sound advice.
    If you don’t, you will have to walk at normal pace, instead of a meandering “sniff everything” pace.

  185. Leigh Lowe

    DrBeauGan

    #3122126, posted on August 3, 2019 at 11:06 am

    I don’t know how I came to fascinate you so much, Notaclue. It’s a mystery. You certainly don’t fascinate me. I feel a bit sorry for you.

    Did the Cubans confiscate your sense of humour at Customs on the way in?

  186. calli

    I just read the Aldi catalogue so you don’t have to.

    Eye fillet on special, gym wear and fridges going cheap.

    I will take the Beloved on my morning walks. Provided he doesn’t stop and sniff around the bushes or chase the roos.

  187. Robber Baron

    The old vehicle registration branch (VicRoads) was a case in point.
    Exclusively sub-continental.
    How did that happen?

    My local major car dealership has been flooded by the Ganges inhabitants. In the space of 8 years they have taken over the service area from customer liaison to all the laboring jerbs. The only whitey is the receptionist chick. I suppose you do need to know you are in Australia and when you call you are not reaching a subcontinental call centre.

    I have also noticed they are taking over the demolishion work. Lot’s of safety corners are being cut.

    Most of my local food outlets have Indian kitchens. My local child care centre must be where all their wives work.

  188. Dr Faustus

    Isn’t Hurley’s job supposed to involve not having an opinion on political matters ?
    What did he say and where?
    I can’t find any report, even on the ABC news site.

    G-G urges haste on indigenous referendum

    Governor General David Hurley warns a ‘no’ vote in a referendum on constitutional recognition of indigenous peoples could mean the opportunity is lost forever.

    Uncle David is in the queue to chuck the constitution into saltwater.

  189. Roger

    I think we can see where this is heading.

    The parliamentary voice will involve ministers of the Crown sitting in the dust indulging the gripes of indigenous blowhards and signing off on their wish lists.

    And when, two generations down the track, the gap still isn’t closed it will again be because of the systemic racism of white Australia.

  190. Leigh Lowe

    Has anyone found Lindt in their navel?

  191. calli

    notafan
    #3122113, posted on August 3, 2019 at 10:55 am

    Chortle.

    Now do one on Croissant of the Seas. I dersya!

  192. stackja

    Nine reports AAP about ABC story?

    G-G urges haste on indigenous referendum

    By AAP
    9:07am Aug 3, 2019

    Governor-General David Hurley says Australia must move quickly to secure constitutional recognition of Australia’s first peoples through a referendum or the opportunity may be lost.
    Attending the Garma Festival of Traditional Cultures in northeast Arnhem Land, General Hurley says a referendum has been put on the table in this term of the federal government.
    “Three years in the cycle of the country is a very short time, so we need to move fairly quickly,” he told ABC television on Saturday.
    He recognises there are difficult issues to get through but says the community has to part of it in a frank, respectful discussion.
    “History is, if we vote no (in a referendum) they’re are either very slow to resurface or they don’t resurface,” he warned.
    One problem is that a lot of people still don’t understand Aboriginal culture.
    “We’re getting to it in our schools and so forth, but it’s slow and where the issues that are on the table at the moment, I think it is important to be more aware of what Aboriginal culture is as your are talking about the issues,” he said.

  193. Leigh Lowe

    I will take the Beloved on my morning walks. Provided he doesn’t stop and sniff around the bushes or chase the roos.

    If he hunches his back on someone’s lawn, yank the chain and take him home.

  194. notafan

    You got me borg

    its truluv

    did it make you cross, again?

  195. Dr Faustus

    If you don’t, you will have to walk at normal pace, instead of a meandering “sniff everything” pace.

    Normal pace?

    Outbound: warp 10.
    Inbound: every tree and lamppost has an important message.

  196. notafan

    Calli as your tales are not repetitive and dull, they have not been quite as inspirational.

    If something comes to mind I will though, i promise.

  197. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Notafan has obviously had her children write a diary of a family holiday. Our daughter’s was thoughtful and interesting from a ten year old. Our son’s at eight was ‘got up, had brekfst, coco pops in motell, drive to a place, it was boring, had lunch, it was mcdonilds, drive in car, stoped in a place, saw boring kaolas asleap and walerbees, we saw the baby walerbee in the pooch, find motell, dad says no more mcdonilds, pizza hut was ham and cheese, played cards, dad wun, mum cem last, went to be 8 oclock’.

    Rinse and repeat daily.

    Dr. BG’s diary had much more of interest to recommend it, but even there, as with all narrative writing, including that of eight year olds, you have to fill in the back story. 🙂

  198. Top Ender

    Now Albo’s on the black steam train:

    Anthony Albanese will today call a constitutionally enshrined voice to parliament a “bedrock” for making practical improvements to the lives of indigenous Australians a reality, as he pressures Scott Morrison to reverse his opposition to the key recommendation from the 2017 Uluru Statement from the Heart.

    The Opposition Leader will visit the Garma festival in the Northern Territory where he will declare that enshrining the voice in the Constitution should be the first step to “true reconciliation”.

    “We cannot go on like this. But we can go forward. It is clear to me that enshrining that voice in the Constitution is what must come first,” Mr Albanese will say at the festival of indigenous groups.

    Must have clots for advisors. It doesn’t take too much analysis to see the average Aussie isn’t interested.

    Link

  199. notafan

    I have also noticed they are taking over the demolishion work. Lot’s of safety corners are being cut.

    funny that, next door was fifties house full of asbestos, just bulldozed without a care in the world

    council referred the company to worksafe

  200. Ellie

    I’ve got Nigella’s lint in my navel.

    You’re one saucy egg, egg.

  201. notafan

    wow lizzie much insight there I did say dr boregan age 8 and 3/4

  202. Leigh Lowe

    If I should die, think only this of me:

          That there’s some corner of an Aussie yard

    That is for ever Cuba.

    Written from my BBQ area in Sodom.
    With apologies to Rupert.

  203. calli

    Rats! I could have given a day by day description of the all-you-can-eat buffet!

    Or the wonders of the Procession of Chefs at the last gala night, complete with tall hats and waving napkins.

    And don’t get me started on the carnage at the Seafood Banquet. Brutal.

  204. notafan

    did gilasgrigtroll just pop in to wither me?

    lol

    another amazing quality contribution

  205. John Constantine

    https://futurism.com/kalashnikov-suicide-drone-kyb-uav

    One of these deployed against an australian naval vessel doesn’t have to sink it.

    Damage that requires the navy to send the boat back to a shipyard in Australia, to be repaired to Australian OH and S standards, by australian unionised labour, takes it out of use for a year.

    Twenty drones hitting twenty ships, that have to queue up at the australian repair facility puts the australian navy out of the conflict for years.

    The story returns about the Saudis having to send forces to a short middle eastern war, so the royal family attended the military parade held for domestic political purposes and waved goodbye to the tank column that charged off on its own tracks instead of tank transporters.

    Between breakdowns and servicing and slow groundspeed and roads and bridges that couldn’t handle tanks, the force never made it to the front lines before the war was over.

    Which was the complete intention.

    Australias elites see the military not as a force to defend borders, but as a feeding trough for our kleptocracy.

    Comrades.

  206. calli

    I’m snorkelling in the Galapagos come November.

    I shall report on turtles sniffing cocaine through plastic straws.

  207. notafan

    You should have calli

    those are the things we really enjoy hearing about

  208. Roger

    The Opposition Leader will visit the Garma festival in the Northern Territory where he will declare that enshrining the voice in the Constitution should be the first step to “true reconciliation”.

    I thought the first step was the 1967 referendum?

    Or was it land rights?

    Or saying “sorry”.

    Or doling out benefits not available to non-indigenous citizens.

    No wonder we’re not getting anywhere.

    The goal posts keep getting shifted.

  209. Ellie

    I’ve been taken out of moderation, Stimpson … at 11:06am

  210. Bruce of Newcastle

    Anthony Albanese will today call a constitutionally enshrined voice to parliament a “bedrock” for making practical improvements to the lives of indigenous Australians a reality

    A bit rich seeing that Labor’s policies are what are keeping indigenous Australians in squalor.

    Maybe he is shoring up his base. They must be disappointed in his fairly unwoke performance so far.

  211. Dr Faustus

    Saudi Arabia allows women to travel without male ‘guardian’ approval

    Saudi Arabia will allow women to obtain passports and travel abroad without approval from a male “guardian”, the government said on Thursday, ending a longstanding restriction that drew heavy international criticism.

    Slippery slope.

  212. egg_

    is it or is it not true that there is ample evidence that people are living in illegal boarding houses with up to 10 people in two-bedroom Flats?

    An Injun colleague said he planned to do exactly that – turn a 3 bedder house into a 10-room boarding house – several of, as an investment/earner.
    Degreed IT guys on 3 month Visas from India on quick turnover.
    Cattle class.
    Do they get PRs from the deal?
    Dunno.

  213. Gilas

    notafan
    #3122183, posted on August 3, 2019 at 11:49 am

    another amazing quality contribution

    Yeah, but not as brilliant as this:

    notafan
    #3122113, posted on August 3, 2019 at 10:55 am

    My holyday by Dr Boregan aged ate and free corters

    You demented, flatulent old hag.

  214. notafan

    An Injun colleague said he planned to do exactly that – turn a 3 bedder house into a 10-room boarding house – several of, as an investment/earner.
    Degreed IT guys on 3 month Visas from India on quick turnover.
    Cattle class.
    Do they get PRs from the deal?
    Dunno.

    you are wrong egg

    doesn’t happen

    ask frank

    ask domatrix

    they know all 592,000 indians living in Australia

  215. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    wow lizzie much insight there I did say dr boregan age 8 and 3/4

    Yes, of course you did. Just demonstrating how well you remembered it all.
    A well-done parody. 🙂

  216. egg_

    the carnage at the Seafood Banquet.

    Were the bogans indistinguishable?

  217. notafan

    quality withering abuse there gilasgrigrae

  218. pete m

    Nota that was hilarious, but you forgot the only highlight the shower scene.

    Someone can have our cavoodle. She keeps waking us up at 2am to bark at the cats or bats.

  219. Stimpy:

    I hope we get these Burger King/Hungry Jack’s ads here.

    That’s another company losing another customer.
    Soon I’ll be reduced to eating rats.
    Good thing there’s bajillions of the damn things.

  220. notafan

    Thank you lizzie

    gilasgrigrae and boregan didn’t like it

    it made them very angry

    and a little bit sad

  221. notafan

    Pete m

    I used the shower scene last time , didn’t want to overdo it, especially in child voice

  222. Bruce of Newcastle

    Saudi Arabia allows women to travel without male ‘guardian’ approval

    It’s the RoP version of wokeness. A stark reminder of those horrible unwoke people on the other side of the Gulf.

    Iranian women defy threat of decade-long jail sentence by taking photos of themselves without headscarves (2 Aug)

    Iranian women are sharing videos of themselves removing their headscarves in public, despite a recent ruling they could face 10 years in jail for doing so.

    Ten years jail for not wearing a garbage bag over your head.

  223. Dr Faustus

    Maybe he is shoring up his base. They must be disappointed in his fairly unwoke performance so far.

    Uncle Albo is certainly going for woke:

    In a speech on Saturday, Mr Albanese will point to the progress on self-determination in New Zealand, Canada and the United States as evidence of the need to achieve the same in Australia.

    “And when you compare life expectancies, the bare, harsh, unavoidable truth is that they have left us for dead.

    Constitutional recognition, Treaty and self determination.
    Vote Labor and get the whole box of chocolates.

  224. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m snorkelling in the Galapagos come November.

    You gadabout!

    Don’t let any giant tortoise tread on your toe when on land. Also remember to watch ‘Master and Commander: the far side of the world’ for a refresher first.

  225. Tel

    Australias elites see the military not as a force to defend borders, but as a feeding trough for our kleptocracy.

    Hence the various official victim groups staking their claims for a share of the winnings. Doesn’t take long before everyone understands the deal.

  226. egg_

    a third of casual workers in Australia are earning less than the minimum wage.

    That would be your “unskilled” third world workers in NBN boondoggle pits.

  227. egg_

    Uncle Albo is certainly going for woke:

    Is Plibbers breathing down his neck?

  228. notafan

    The latest installment in an ongoing interview series with senior editor Mark Bauerlein. In this episode, Mark is joined by Theodore Dalrymple to discuss his book The Terror of Existence: From Ecclesiastes to Theatre of the Absurd, co-authored with Kenneth Francis.

    THE TERROR OF EXISTENCE

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