Open Forum: August 3, 2019

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  1. Des Deskperson

    The ABC’s ‘Les Norton’ is unwatchable.

    I have no idea if it is true to the original books, but the TV series, at least in the first half hour, has all the self-conscious, confected, try-hard scenario, script and characterisation that we have come to expect from ABC drama. The ‘authentic Aussie’ sub-Paul Hogan voice-over narration may be from the original books and it might have seemed clever thirty years but it sounds pretty tinny and lame now.

    Tonight Les helped to free some exploited Thai sex slaves. That may well be in the books, but it looked more like an ‘earnest’ and ‘relevant to today’ ABC drama add-on . BTW, would Thai women in 1985 have coloured photos in their passports ?

    Les’s immediate boss is Indigenous. The Rebel Wilson character is a silly but large piece of cardboard. ‘Les’ looks like and entrant on ‘The Bachelor’.

  2. cohenite

    This big, fat stupid country; albo opining that nuclear is much dearer than renewables; this fat bastard Yunupingu with a nt claim on the Gove Peninsula which could cost this stupid fat nation $billions.

    Bring on the chinks.

  3. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The left have culturally appropriated Les Norton.

    “I don’t give a fuck about Stan Lee’s legacy. He’s another piece of shit cultural appropriator. If I get a job at Marvel I will spend my career destroying his so-called legacy…”

    Sound familiar?

  4. John Constantine

    Les Norton/ Judge Dredd fanfiction underway.

  5. Tel

    The police are armed to protect themselves – hardly unreasonable given there are more guns than people in the US.

    Sure … same goes for everyone else as well. Why would you allow protection for some while denying others? Why do you hate poor people? Why can’t you be consistent?

  6. John Constantine

    Or this.

    ” Mate, call me Judge Les and that’ll make ya Judge Cassie”.

    Judge Anderson simply ignored the clumsily extended oversized mitt.

    “Judge Norton” she said ” I may have to be here in your Sydney Megaslum, I may have to hunt your Dark Judges, but it will be a cold day in hell before i touch you”.

    Judge Norton dropped his unshaken hand with a chuckle.

    ” You really did read my mind to see what I was thinking then.”

    Anderson’s lip curled, it would have been a waste of her telepathy to check why this thug had been gentleman enough to let her walk up the flight of stairs ahead of him, one look over her shoulder at his drooling chin had told her everything.

    “At this door” said Anderson through gritted teeth, ” I can semse an echo of Dark Judge depravity and a murky foul miasma of evil”.

    ” Sorry mate” said Judge Norton, ” I slipped that fart out so quiet i thought ya wouldn’t notice”.

    The swinging Jackboot of Justice sent the ruins of the door flying inwards, startling the Dark Judge as he knelt on the floor above his victim.

    “It’s Judge Fear” swore Anderson, then she was flung back, the psychic assault of sheer horror and atavistic dread hitting the judges like a battering ram.

    “Gaze into the face of Fear” crowed the evil necromancer, throwing his head back in triumph.

    Not all his foes had been disposed of though, the burly Aussie bouncing back off the wall and striking with a vicious straight piledriving blow, the armoured glove crushing the perps helmet and skull while pushing both an inch back into the plasterboard.

    “Gaze into the Fist of Les” roared our man at the fallen ghoul, dropping the science judges soultrap onto the dead chest of the Dark Judge, watching it suck the evil essence into a high tech miniature prison.

    Cassandra watched the shambling Aussie stumble towards her, reading his mind for his full simple intentions. She knew she was perfectly capable of picking herself up and walking out the room, but she allowed him to bend down and sweep her up in his arms, her long blonde hair tossed over his shoulder.

    Even gritting her teeth as the grotty paw that had so recently dispatched Judge Fear accidentally cradled her buttock.

    The man had just put down a Dark Judge, so copping a feel wasn’t completely unexpected.

    Besides, Cassandra could always break that arm for him in the morning.

    “Call me Cassie, Judge Les” she whispered.

    #JudgeLes, #Cassieles #AnderNort #Joemissesout

  7. Dave in Marybrook

    John Constantine, you are some sort of genius.
    It’s made me realise just how much Dredd- and Robert G Barrett- I soaked up during my misspelt yoof.

  8. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    this fat bastard Yunupingu with a nt claim on the Gove Peninsula which could cost this stupid fat nation $billions.

    Stand by for a preview of the legal dogfight that will accompany any “Voice” and “Treaty.”

  9. notafan

    The progs will take everything that is good and recast it in their own image.

    They think that they improve when, in fact they destroy.

    It is their way.

  10. stackja

    pete m – Australia MSM don’t like the Royal family since the Queen didn’t save Gough.

  11. Leigh Lowe

    John Constantine

    #3123464, posted on August 4, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    Hundred runs lead, another session or two and they are in with a chance.

    Say what you like about Steve Smiff.
    I have.
    But to collect nearly 250 from two digs (still not out in the second) after a year out of the game? That is not the mark of a sook.

  12. Whalehunt Fun

    Yunupingu is just trying to get money from stupid leftist cretins. Nothing surprising there. The problem is that it is my money and he can die in a ditch before I would give him a penny yet the filth that occupy Canberra will give him my money rather than stripping him of citizenship and dumping him in the cesspit his ancestors crawled out of, India.

  13. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Even gritting her teeth as the grotty paw that had so recently dispatched Judge Fear accidentally cradled her buttock.

    More gravy!

  14. Knuckle Dragger

    Well. Cucumber sandwich time.

    4/231, lead by 140 odd. Unfortunately, Captain McFidgetCheat is on 98.

    Another hundred on top of the existing lead, and that should be plenty for N. Lyon to work with.

  15. Knuckle Dragger

    Bloody hell.

    Some man-handed hound mansplaining something to Ian Healy.

    Bring back Smith, quick.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    pete m – Australia MSM don’t like the Royal family since the Queen didn’t save Gough.

    At the height of the Dismissal, Goof Whitlam had the Speaker of the House write to the Queen, asking her to dismiss the caretaker Fraser Government, reinstall the Whitlam reign of terror, and cancel the upcoming elections.

    Her Majesty replied that the issue was an internal matter, for Australia to deal with under the relevant sections of the Australian Constitution, and she would not involve herself in the matter.

  17. Sinclair Davidson

    Gaze into the fist of Les?

  18. Leigh Lowe

    KD, the ACB made a mistake appointing Smiff captain.
    They took the view that the coaches have analysed everything to death and have fielding placements for every batting/bowling combination.
    It was all on auto-pilot.
    No probs.
    What they forgot was leadership.
    Smiff is a self-contained, introspective type, which is his absolute strength as a batsman.
    But it makes for a poor captain.

  19. jupes

    Any unmerciful land ripping and damage to dreaming is being done with the consent of, and financial benefit to, the Yolngu people.

    FMD

    My dream was damaged this morning when the alarm went off. Where’s my compo?

  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My dream was damaged this morning when the alarm went off. Where’s my compo?

    I was dreaming of shagging Elizabeth Taylor when the alarm went off. I’m seeing my solicitor to lodge a compensation claim.

  21. jupes

    Smiff is a self-contained, introspective type, which is his absolute strength as a batsman.
    But it makes for a poor captain.

    He should be banned from any future leadership position. Just let him bat.

  22. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Good evening Elle.

    You did know that flirting with a site moderator contravenes the Australian Telecommunications Act, didn’t you? I’m only telling you this because I’d hate to see you get into trouble.

    Unless it’s with me, of course.

  23. egg_

    I have never seen so many non stories about a Royal since Diana.

    I have never seen a darling of the left so often attacked by the MSM.

    Bog standard Leftard class envy.
    Next.

  24. Leigh Lowe

    #3122868, posted on August 4, 2019 at 12:23 am

    Prediction.
    Aussies will make the same as they did in the first (280).
    Remember no Anderson to bowl.
    Engerland 190 to win.
    They fail.
    Lyon 5-fer.

    Oohh-ah.
    Can I update?
    .
    If Smiff gets his century the Aussies will make 400.
    Engerland 310 to win.
    They fail miserably.
    Lyon 5-fer.

  25. Knuckle Dragger

    Yes and yes, gents.

    Optically and tactically Smith was a shit captain. No getting around it.

    And I suspect that deep down somewhere he’s conflict-averse and wanted his troops to like him.

    His problem was – captains aren’t there to be liked. They’re there to get the fucking job done.

  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    White gunman dressed in all black and wearing body armor opens fire on patrons at a small Dayton, Ohio bar, killing 9 and injuring 16 in America’s second mass shooting within just 14 hours

    Daily Mail.

  27. areff

    If flirting with the moderator contravenes the Act, I guess a blow job is out of the question.

    (with apologies to a well-known Australian Financial Review journalist, who is said to remarked as much to Jacqueline Onassis when she ignored his requests for an interview)

  28. jupes

    Bog standard Leftard class envy.

    A bit more subtle than that.

    They are using a useful idiot to attack the Royal Family. The fact that she will be damaged in the process is of no concern to them.

    On the other hand, Harry should never have married the stupid bint.

  29. jupes

    If Smiff gets his century …

    Tick

  30. Knuckle Dragger

    Only the fifth Australian batsman ever to make tons in both innings of an Ashes Test.

    I still think he shouldn’t be there.

    But mentally, the man’s harder than a coffin nail – and by Christ the man can bat.

  31. Leigh Lowe

    He should be banned from any future leadership position. Just let him bat.

    I agree to a point.
    Don’t ban him.
    Make him part of a meaningless “leadership group” to save face, but just let him focus on batting.

  32. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    On the other hand, Harry should never have married the stupid bint.

    Harry should have recalled the fate of his Royal predecessor, who married an American divorcee – he went from being an Admiral in the Royal Navy, to being third mate to a Baltimore tramp.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    Actually, enough is enough.
    I reckon a 12 month suspension for Smiff was reasonable, given the number of people who have admitted to ball tampering before and since.
    Yes, enough.
    The Poms who booed when he got to his second innings hundred are nothing but boorish xunts.
    They have witnessed one of the great sporting performances in a generation, but resolutely stick to the Barmy Army script.

  34. jupes

    Make him part of a meaningless “leadership group” to save face,

    Not after his sooking.

    but just let him focus on batting.

    Yep.

  35. Fisky

    On the other hand, Harry should never have married the stupid bint.

    A terrible life choice on his part. You could even see it in his face on their wedding day. Too late!

  36. jupes

    Glenn Maxwell

    @Gmaxi_32
    Smudge is officially having a net… Bad news for England, cause he’s never out in the nets and he bats forever! #gun #genius

    LOL

  37. JC

    A terrible life choice on his part. You could even see it in his face on their wedding day. Too late!

    Ummm na. This is the guy who made a speech at the google fest in bare feet. He’s worse than she is.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    Ha, ha.
    Maxxie taking the piss bigtime.
    Jupes, I am suggesting the “leadership group” thing as a ge fucked to the external critics.
    Internally within the team, yes, just focus on batting.
    No more, no less.

  39. jupes

    Ummm na. This is the guy who made a speech at the google fest in bare feet. He’s worse than she is.

    Only since the wedding.

    He was very well respected as a soldier and single bloke.

  40. egg_

    They are using a useful idiot to attack the Royal Family. The fact that she will be damaged in the process is of no concern to them.

    Her vacuous Vogue crap isn’t helping her case one bit.

  41. JC

    Only since the wedding.

    He was very well respected as a soldier and single bloke.

    He may have but that was then.

    There’s a saying in trading. You’re only as good as your last good trade. 🙂

  42. max

    Smiff is a self-contained, introspective type, which is his absolute strength as a batsman.
    But it makes for a poor captain.

    What about Grumpy ? Merv Hughes as skipper ? Nah. Warnie ? Yeah.

    And I suspect that deep down somewhere he’s conflict-averse and wanted his troops to like him.

    His problem was – captains aren’t there to be liked. They’re there to get the fucking job done.

    He’s just a straight, uncomplicated bloke who didn’t know howto handle a devious, disloyal, low turd like Warner.

  43. egg_

    You could even see it in his face on their wedding day.

    Control freak in action?

  44. Leigh Lowe

    He’s just a straight, uncomplicated bloke who didn’t know howto handle a devious, disloyal, low turd like Warner.

    Precisely.
    After seeing this comeback and the mental hardness it displays he could be anything.
    But no capitan.

  45. egg_

    This is the guy who made a speech at the google fest in bare feet.

    Cucked like that Pocock fvckwit.

  46. jupes

    There’s a saying in trading. You’re only as good as your last good trade. 🙂

    The dickhead has her thumbprint on his forehead. Not every bloke gets their first marriage right, but there is no need to debase yourself. Of course his dad isn’t one to give him good advice either.

  47. Leigh Lowe

    Pom spinners bowling at about 80 kmh.
    That is about 20 clicks off Test speed to get through top class batsman.

  48. Steve trickler

    Let’s take another squiz in Venezuela.



  49. Top Ender

    Apparently one can now lay claim to a whole artistic style?

    Especially if it’s Aboriginal?

  50. C.L.

    Mrs May dances better than Peter Garrett, at least.

  51. I was dreaming of shagging Elizabeth Taylor when the alarm went off. I’m seeing my solicitor to lodge a compensation claim.

    Seen Liz lately?
    You may wish to update your claim to involve a more recent model, say Keira Knightly, or someone.

    Being prevented from shagging Liz would qualify as being “saved” these days.

  52. Leigh Lowe

    Umpiring error # 12.

  53. C.L.

    Spot the lie:

    Daughters of mother, 61, who is the first to take her own life under new assisted dying laws reveal the ‘beautiful experience’ of her death.

    The family of a 61-year-old woman who made history as the first person in Victoria to legally end her life with new laws have revealed the ‘beautiful experience’ of her death.

    Kerry Robertson, who was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2010, died at a nursing home in Bendigo, Victoria, on July 15 – less than a month after the new laws were introduced.

    Ms Robertson was ‘ready to go’, according to daughters Nicole and Jacqui, who held their mother’s hands while she took her final breath.

    Jacqui told Seven News their mother was ‘surrounded by love’ in her final moments, with her favourite music playing in the background and family in the room…

    The pair were relieved to give their mother the ’empowered death’ she wanted, which ended up being a ‘beautiful experience’.

    She didn’t end her life. Other people did.

    On the day the Victoria’s voluntary assisted dying laws came into effect on June 19, Ms Robertson booked an appointment with her specialist to acquire the lethal substance.

    The cocktail of drugs was dropped off by two pharmacists at the nursing home on the same day she decided to end her life.

  54. Old School Conservative

    Well said Mr Howard.

    Referring to the bans, Howard wrote: “It’s sad for the game but also sad for young men who have made colossal mistakes. They deserve their punishments, but there must a way back afterwards. But Smith can never be captain again. He is too weak. The one bright thought is that the immense preoccupation of Australians with the affair reminds them just how much we love our great game.”

    Smith 142.
    A great batsman.

  55. JC

    What else could it be about.

    A farcical spotlight on men behaving badly

    Van Badham’s new play is a cheerful farce about sexual harassment, internet trolling and sexual predation.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/stage/a-farcical-spotlight-on-men-behaving-badly/news-story/b233b7d8a6ad022e841fd58826d2b0c2

  56. C.L.

    What could van Fatham possibly know about being sexually propositioned?

  57. jupes

    Van Badham’s new play is a cheerful farce about sexual harassment, internet trolling and sexual predation.

    Who would pay for such an abomination?

    I hope it wasn’t me.

  58. Leigh Lowe

    FMD.
    Reverse sweep to go to 100.
    That is brave.

  59. BrettW

    From The Daily Mail :

    “Ex-High Court judge tells police to stop calling people who make sex offence allegations ‘victims’ because it creates a ‘presumption’ that they are telling the truth following bungled ‘Nick’ the fantasist inquiry
    Sir Richard Henriques has reiterated his call for police to amend their language
    He said sex abuse accusers should be called ‘complainants’ not ‘victims’
    He first made the call in his 2016 report into the failing of the Met’s Operation Midland investigation sparked by lies by fantasist ‘Nick’ about VIP paedophiles
    He said the language creates a ‘presumption’ about guilt and innocence
    But the Met have once again rejected the advice and will continue to say ‘victim’ ”

    Note the Met are rejecting the advice. Must be reading from the same evidence book as VICPOL.

  60. JC

    Guess whose manifesto this belongs to with a few words taken out that gives the game away? D’rats?

    An Honest Economy:
    We demand the creation of an honest, self-sufficient, debt-free economy based solely on the productive capacity of the worker, which will guarantee conditions of full employment and price stability. We also demand public control of all banking and credit institutions as well as all utilities and all monopolies, confiscation of all conglomerate holdings, cancellation of all usurious debt, comprehensive profit sharing in all basic industries, and the institution of a national program of interest-free loans for families, farmers, and small businessmen.
    We believe that the proper function of an economy is to serve the economic needs of the people, not to make profits for big bankers and huge multinational corporations. We must put an end to both economic freeloading and economic exploitation in America. There must be no place for parasites who draw their sustenance from society without giving anything in return. We also believe that HONEST WORK is the only legitimate basis for wealth – not speculation, usury, or money-manipulation – and that a sound economic system must rest, not on debt or some extraneous metal, but on the productivity of the worker alone. We believe further, that money is properly a medium of exchange and store of value, not a commodity like bread or steel, and that therefore money and credit should not be issued for profit, but to serve the legitimate needs of the people without interest. Finally, we believe that it is unnecessary for any rational society to suffer unemployment when there is work to be done and people who want jobs. We must have an economy based on the long-term interests of the man who works for a living, not the chronic loafer or the man who lives by renting out his capital.
    Energy & Environment:
    It is our goal that the republic be totally self-sufficient in energy, and that the types of energy it employs be non-polluting. Towards these ends, we demand a phasing out of all forms of energy which befoul the environment, such as coal, petroleum, and nuclear fission. To replace them, we demand an immediate and massive program to develop new, CLEAN energy sources.
    We believe that people deserve to live in a healthy environment, with clean air, clean water, and clean land. We also believe that the responsible energy needs of our people must be met. At the same time, we do not believe that the environment should be sacrificed for quick profit, cheap economic growth, or an extravagant, materialistic lifestyle. We believe in honoring, not despoiling Nature. We firmly believe that with the wonderful resources of the North American continent at its disposal, genius is fully capable of developing those sources of energy we need – from the sun, the earth, the wind, and the water – without disturbing the natural order.
    We must make it an imperative duty of our government to protect the gifts which Nature has bestowed on America and to insure the maintenance of a clean, healthy, wholesome environment for our people. We must not only eliminate pollution and conserve our resources, but we must gradually bring about a whole new mode of living in America, a mode with less emphasis on forcing man into a mold determined by a congested, neon-and-asphalt urban rat race and more emphasis on changing that mold to fit the propensities of man.

    No, it’s the American Nazi party. Note the Green New Deal as part of the manifesto.

  61. jupes

    No, it’s the American Nazi party.

    Good get JC.

  62. DrBeauGan

    If you have to use the toilet in a restaurant in Cuba, make sure you take your own toilet paper. I had gone with a couple of servillettas in my pocket as a prudential matter, fortunately.

    Some small change to placate the dragon who guards the place is also useful.

    This has been a public service announcement.

  63. DrBeauGan

    No, it’s the American Nazi party.

    Yeah. Extreme right wing and not a bit socialist.

  64. Tom

    Johannes Leak on Nein news director Darren Wick, who wants Nein’s Fakefacts journos to file stories for the top rating A Current Affair – not just 60 Minutes. It’s a complicated juggling act for Nein, which also employs Bandana Boy, who tips a bucket virtually every week on Fakefacts radio star
    Alan Jones.

  65. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom. It’s obvious that the dems have gone insanely socialist. The only question is, how loony and ignorant are the voters, and how effective will dem cheating be? My guess is that Trump will win handsomely.

  66. Tom

    Trump walkover, Beaugy. Dems are learning democracy the hard way. They think it’s a Lion King fantasy where the cutest animals don’t get torn apart and eaten.

  67. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    How did I not see this?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7161441/Man-tackled-cop-says-woman-hit-wearing-mini-skirt-wants-attention.html#article-7161441

    Asking out a 19 year woman is a crime in Australia.

    Making a threat; “you better start running” is fine.

    Literal clown world.

  68. DrBeauGan

    Trump walkover, Beaugy. Dems are learning democracy the hard way. They think it’s a Lion King fantasy where the cutest animals don’t get torn apart and eaten.

    I like smart, competent people, and Trump is very smart and very competent. It’s those too dumb and self-absorbed to see this who have the problem.

  69. bespoke

    Speedbox
    #3123433, posted on August 4, 2019 at 8:45 pm
    Then the man who was carrying his licensed concealed weapon within the centre was a naughty boy.

    More generally, I unreservedly accept that a handgun against a rifle is a dangerous proposition for the handgun operator – which would seem to reinforce my original point that armed civilians (particularly with a handgun) are not realistically able to act as a defense for the unarmed population against lunatics with a rifle.

    The NRA train people to use a handgun as a defensive weapon not to go on the attack. i.e save your self and people around you and get out of harms way.

  70. calli

    John Constantine
    #3123476, posted on August 4, 2019 at 9:46 pm
    Or this.

    🤣

    That’s about to put a spring in my sad, solitary steps this morning. Thank you.

  71. bespoke

    This legally armed military man rushed into action to protect children during El Paso attack

    “It was a whole bunch of kids in there,” he told NBC affiliate KTSM. “I hope nothing happened to the kids. I tried to pick up as many as I could and bring them out with me.”

    “I pulled my gun out,” he told the reporter, because Oakley is a licensed gun-owner and had his weapon with him. “When I hear gunshots I just think … take cover, save whoever you can.”

  72. DrBeauGan

    Why would a white supremacist have is lame ick materials in his home?

    I guess one shouldn’t expect much sense from someone who tries to demonstrate white supremacy by killing mainly white people. Killing muzzies makes a small amount of sense, as happened in Christchurch. That killer was insane, but not stupid. This latest looks to be both.

  73. 1735099

    The NRA train people to use a handgun as a defensive weapon not to go on the attack

    Like most of what the NRA do, their “training” has only one goal, and it’s not self-defence.

  74. DrBeauGan

    If I found myself citing leunig as a source of deep thought, I’d give up.

  75. Robber Baron

    Abboriginals making another play for more hand outs. What’s new?

    If these people got off their lazy arses and created something positive they might not be treated as the world class clowns they obviously are.

    Let’s have a referendum on Abboriginal welfare. They will be in for the shock of their lives. They better get ready to get jobs delivering uber eats.

  76. egg_

    If I found myself citing leunig as a source of deep thought, I’d give up.

    NumbNutz is doing jokes this morning?

  77. 1735099

    El Paso County Sheriff commenting on the shootings –

    “This Anglo man came here to kill Hispanics. I’m outraged and you should be too. This entire nation should be outraged,” Sheriff Richard Wiles, who is also the former chief of the El Paso Police Department, wrote on his Facebook page

    The shooter drove eight hours from Dallas to target El Paso.

    A further quote –

    “I fear things will not get better. Not pointing out anyone in particular, but I’m sick of people jumping in front of the cameras offering prayers and condolences as things just keep getting worse,” he added.

    I wonder who he’s talking about.

  78. egg_

    Abboriginals making another play for more hand outs.

    Has the Roboriginal Industry upped their productivity?
    More dot paintings?
    /Crickets

  79. notafan

    Frank

    He didn’t just ‘ask her out’ . Read what she said. He’s also had previous convictions for public nuisance.

  80. DrBeauGan

    NumbNutz is doing jokes this morning?

    Not intentionally.

    He has an uncontrollable need to display one of his obsessions together with his godawful judgment day after day. You’d think he’d have noticed his problems by now.

  81. notafan

    And he persisted, despite being asked to go away.

    Her father acted like a man.

  82. woolfe

    50 shot so far this month in Chicago. Outrage? 0

  83. notafan

    Is the euthanasia option available in Victoria to children with terminal illnesses, or just because they feel like it?

    If not why not?

    In Holland you can do it if you are depressed.

    Goin’ to put beyond blue and all those other suicide prevention places out of business.

    I did notice that brave lady with terminal cancer story had the lifeline number included.

    A Bob each way.

  84. Tom

    Sheriff Richard Wiles is a fucking Democrat, trollscum. He thinks Trump pulled the trigger. Thanks, Doomlord.

  85. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hmmm…

    El Paso

    El Paso City and County vote overwhelmingly Democratic, like most of the Texas–Mexico border area and urban Texas.[173]

    Who is Sheriff Richard Wiles you might ask? Why, he’s an activist Democrat. With baggage it seems.
    Just search ‘Sheriff Richard Wiles’ in DDG.

  86. Tom

    Great minds, Bruce of Newk.

  87. Cardimona

    Cats, I’m putting a letter out today to as many newspapers as I can.
    If you have an email for the letters page of your local paper and you’d like it to have a chance of getting into print there, please post the email address here.
    Please also include the term “Cardimona” in your post so I can “control-F” search the pages of the thread – as usual, I am many pages behind the live action.
    Thanks

    Letters to the Editor – Sign up to save an innocent baby

    The Editor

    Good to see Barnaby Joyce has started a petition calling for an inquiry into new NSW abortion laws.

    The argument around abortion needs grounding in reality and accurate language.

    A new human life begins at the precise moment a live sperm penetrates a live ovum.

    A couple engaging in sex without wanting a child must ensure the two never meet.

    This is more accurately called “conception prevention” than “birth control”.

    Abortion is being euphemistically called “birth control”, but it kills a baby.

    Abortion, in most cases, is more accurately called “lifestyle infanticide”.

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    This is basic biology and we all should’ve learned it at school.

    The unborn baby, whether he or she be 20 days or 20 weeks gestation, is a son or a daughter.

    How deluded are we that we don’t see killing our children is murder – regardless of their age?

    280 days inside Mum, then 31,000 inside society (if we live to 85) – but we’re never “independent”.

    A couple who don’t want their child can adopt him or her out, but murder is unjustifiable.

    If you agree, sign Barnaby’s petition – but Google doesn’t want you to find it.

    Fortunately the web address is simple – http://www.supportlife.com.au/.

    Full disclosure: I am the grandfather of Barnaby’s young sons, but these are my own views.

    (234 words)

  88. 1735099

    Not intentionally

    And using personal abuse because you’re unable to refute the content of my posts is intentional.
    Revealing how lame it makes you look is however quite unintentional.
    The stupid this gun issue uncovers is incredible.
    It takes a very special kind of gullible to swallow the crap the NRA promotes.
    The Yanks are welcome to it, but when it moves across the Pacific, as most US memes do, it’s a threat to Australians.

  89. Tel

    No, it’s the American Nazi party. Note the Green New Deal as part of the manifesto.

    Putting the fascism into eco-fascist. At least they are honest, I’ll give them that much.

    Could the whole thing be a troll though? It’s unusual to see honest leftists … call me skeptical.

  90. calli

    Seven telling us that the Victorian euthanaia recipient died of breast cancer.

    Glad that’s cleared up.

    I thought she committed suicide with help from the state.

  91. DrBeauGan

    And using personal abuse because you’re unable to refute the content of my posts is intentional.

    The content of your posts on gun control has been refuted many, many times. I’m getting fed up with them. If you had a scrap of judgment you’d have given up long ago. But your obsessive personality makes that impossible.

  92. notafan

    Person uses personal abuse while complaining about personal abuse.

    Humourous.

  93. notafan

    Cardimona I think these are the right ones for Victoria Leader group.
    list of email addresses

  94. Mater

    The stupid this gun issue uncovers is incredible.

    Yeah. Like trying to link the ‘gun issue’ with the shooting down of Malaysian Flight MH-17.

    3. The control of weapons is opposed by many who post here. This incident is at the extreme end of the Glibertarian consequence spectrum. At the other end of it is the issue of our effective weapon control regime. Long may it remain.

  95. calli

    At least it wasn’t sexual innuendo, nota.

    We’ve had quite enough of that, thank you very much.

  96. notafan

    I suspect ‘mass shootings’ are now part of the American landscape, as long as they have angry young men and of course, terrorists.

    A crime to commit if you want a guarantee of that attention so desperately sought.

    show pony jumping in front of camera

  97. calli

    Blaming Trump for El Paso and Ohio.

    Blaming Obama for Sandy Hook?

    Denouncing is just so easy.

    The list of mass shootings going back to the twenties posted last night was quite instructive. My first thought on hearing about the Chicago murders today was that it’s returning to type – gangland executions.

  98. notafan

    Msm and progs love them a mass shooting.

    If it is committed by a random young man

    It’s gun laws!

    If it’s committed by a m uslim it’s

    Stop being mean to m uslims!

  99. Bruce of Newcastle

    We must ban gravity.

    Sen. Sherrod Brown calls on Mitch McConnell to reconvene Senate to pass new gun controls

    Sen. Sherrod Brown on Sunday called on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to call lawmakers back to Washington, D.C., to pass new gun control legislation after mass shootings over the weekend in Texas and Ohio left at least 29 people dead and dozens of others injured.

    Mitch McConnell breaks shoulder in fall at home

    Mr. McConnell, 77, “tripped at home on his outside patio and suffered a fractured shoulder. He has been treated, released, and is working from home in Louisville,” said communications director David Popp.

    After all, gravity causes more deaths than firearms do.

  100. Cardimona

    Nota at 7:41

    Legend! Thanks, mate!

  101. feelthebern

    Why would anyone who didn’t like Hispanics live in El Paso?
    It’s straddles the border with Juarez.
    He could have driven to Idaho in 2 days where the demographics would have been more to his liking.

  102. feelthebern

    How come we still don’t kn0w all the details of the Vegas shooting?
    How come the US media isn’t screaming for all the details?

  103. calli

    He didn’t live in El Paso, bern.

    He drove down from Dallas deliberately to do the deed.

    Braindead jerk.

  104. feelthebern

    How come the social media companies & NSA didn’t flag this El Paso chap as a threat?

  105. Mother Lode

    I just saw Shy Ted’s link to the story that the El Pase Walmart shooter was having his information ‘modified’ to make him an evangelical Christian and connect him to the Republicans and Trump. His original profile, from before the shooting, had him clearly as a Democrat.

    This is becoming surreal.

    Doesn’t really matter – the guy was a nutter regardless. Not every Democrat shoots people up – it takes a new element in their brains, and the persecution complexes, the delusions, the phantasms, the sense of mission etc.

    Mind you – perhaps it explains why Democrats are so red-hot for gun control: They can sense in themselves that they are within a hair’s breadth of a homicidal rampage, which is terrifying to them because your erstwhile comrades will instantly unperson you, pretend you are a Republican, and cast you out into the darkness, the coldness, the desolation and the un-life that exists outside the collective.

  106. notafan

    We do know all the details of the Vegas shooting.

    Except for the black helicopters, those are still shrouded in mystery.

  107. feelthebern

    PS calli
    When you are ready to look a puppies again, give me a yell via sinc.
    I support a local charity that has an Australia wide network of shelters.
    You settle the breeds & age you want & it lines you up with the shelter that has one.
    Better than the heart breaking experience of going to a shelter.
    If I went to a shelter, I would literally adopt 50 dogs.

  108. C.L.

    ABC Online describes a Victorian homicide:

    With David Bowie playing and her daughters beside her, Kerry faded gently away.

    She was actually poisoned by several people.

    The Victorian “health” minister celebrates the killing:

    Minister for Health Jenny Mikakos said the first use of Victoria’s Voluntary Assisted Dying Act was “an historic moment”.

    The Andrews government – speaking through the dutiful ABC ‘reporter’ – is selling its new law as good old-fashioned euthanasia, not the nasty kind:

    Victoria’s Voluntary Assisted Dying Act passed parliament in 2017, with the support of Premier Daniel Andrews and the majority of his cabinet.

    The laws were designed to be the most conservative euthanasia laws in the world, with patients required to meet strict criteria to be eligible.

  109. notafan

    I love the same day service for your fatal drug cocktail.

    Is it free?

  110. Tel

    After all, gravity causes more deaths than firearms do.

    I bought my house from certified morons who had done a lot of extremely bad home renovations. They had figure-8 speaker wires carrying AC power to the back room … they had concrete drains sloping the wrong way so the water all pooled at one end when it rained … and they had constructed an elaborate front step and small porch built out of concrete and finished off with pretty looking bathroom wall tiles. Kind of try-hard Italian style.

    So yes there are people walking around not qualified to operate gravity.

    After a few near-death experiences on our front step I looked up how many people die or get severely injured that way and hurried off to cover the monstrosity with adhesive grip tape. At some stage we will have to strip it back and put quarry tiles.

    You are completely correct that the bozos always banging on about gun control don’t care how many people die, nor do they care how they die … it’s about power, politics, and feeling righteous.

    We still haven’t got a coherent answer about why self-defense is so reasonable for police, and OK for important people with armed guards paid for out of tax money like Obama’s family … while at the same time self-defense for ordinary people is stupid and unreasonable. Just can’t explain it. Must be getting a government job makes you a special person, superior to regular people or something like that.

  111. calli

    Correction: he lived in Allen, just north of Dallas.

    Apparently he picked his nose and ate his scabs and was a nerd.

    This must be used as an early detector for anti-social behaviour. We can clearly discount the family home, substance abuse and other triggering obsessions.

  112. C.L.

    Fairfax describes the creepy, heathen scene … and oddball vulture Andrew Denton swoops in:

    The pharmacists asked Kerry if she consented one last time, before they used a small handful of icing sugar to carefully demonstrate how she would stir the powdered drugs into a prepared liquid substance.

    The nurses then came into the room and washed Kerry. They dressed her and combed her hair.

    “They were so beautiful and compassionate,” Jacqui said.

    Kerry had become too ill for visitors in the last weeks of her life. She lay in bed, surrounded by her energy crystals and under the soft, orange glow of her salt lamps as her daughters read aloud letters written to her from her grandchildren and extended family.

    They told her how much she was loved.

    Her playlist filled with songs by Nick Cave and her first love, David Bowie, hummed in the background as she ate a capricciosa pizza; her favourite meal.

    Nicole and Jacqui said their mother’s death had reinforced their belief that terminally ill people who are suffering intolerably deserve the choice to end their own life.

    “We want our mum’s legacy to be the power of sharing her story to help people who are either contemplating or going through this process and their families,” Jacqui said.

    Western Australia and Queensland are now considering following Victoria’s lead and implementing voluntary assisted-dying legislation.

    “We want to push for this to become a national law as we believe everybody has the right to a compassionate death,” Jacqui said.

    “It’s not a political issue, it’s about compassion and allowing people to choose how they want to die.”

    Go Gentle Australia’s director Andrew Denton said Kerry’s death demonstrated how well the law was operating in Victoria.

    “The eligibility criteria were met, the safeguards were worked through, and Kerry Robertson
    and her family were offered the compassionate death Kerry wanted,” Mr Denton said.

    Before she died, Kerry told her children to always look for dragonflies.

    How nice of the nurses to do her hair before killing her.

  113. C.L.

    Reports on euthanasia always make liberal use of the words “courage” and “brave.”
    Which is incongruous to me because all I see is cowardice.

  114. areff

    It’s straddles the border with Juarez.

    Juarez, postern sphincter of the universe.

  115. calli

    How nice of the nurses to do her hair before killing her.

    Good grief. I had my little dog groomed a couple of days before the deadly trip to the vet. I thought it would perk him up – it always has done in the past. Gave him his favourite snacks, cuddled him. All to no avail – he was slipping away without the slightest tail-wag.

    This woman was put down.

  116. 1735099

    The content of your posts on gun control has been refuted many, many times

    Refute these facts –
    Gun deaths per 1000000 (2014 – 2017 figures) – Australia – 1.04: USA – 12.21. (Wiki)
    31% of public mass shootings occur in the US, although it has only 5% of the world’s population. (Adam Lankford, University of Alabama, August 24, 2015).
    There is a strong correlation between gun ownership (the more guns owned the higher the rate of mass shootings) and lack of gun legislation (the less restrictive in relation to who can buy and what type of gun they can buy the greater the rate of mass shootings).

    Do you feel safe in Cuba?
    I was there this time last year, and felt a lot safer there than in the US.
    We went straight from the USA to Cuba via Panama.
    America is in a constant state of paranoia.
    Refute that.

  117. Eyrie

    JC: There’s a saying in trading. You’re only as good as your last good trade. 🙂

    In aviation, you are as good as your *next* flight.

    There are however only two bad things that can happen:
    a)Knowing it will be your last flight
    b) NOT knowing it will be your last flight

  118. Mother Lode

    What could van Fatham possibly know about being sexually propositioned?

    She knows you have to buy a guy a lot of drinks before they will do it.

  119. Percy Popinjay

    Go Gentle Australia’s director Andrew Denton said Kerry’s death demonstrated how well the law was operating in Victoria.

    Yes, ti works like a dream if you’re a repulsive psychopathic amoral imbecile. Could someone start euthanasing various Victoriastanian politicians, please?

    For their own good, of course. Their intolerable suffering needs to be brought to a long overdue end.

  120. Shy Ted

    Dr Yunupingu lives in a mansion overlooking a barramundi-filled river in Arnhem Land. It has a helipad and all the dishes on the roof. The vista is magnificent. The roads are graded regularly and supplies delivered reliably. The bauxite mine is/was a dot on a map but an incredibly efficient mining operation. It scrapes the surface of the land and is barely noticeable it’s so vast. It tries/d hard to employ local Aboriginal people but few pass induction being functionally illiterate. Menial jobs are found but people don’t turn up as they’ve earned so much in the first few weeks and they are unable to buy property so they drive down to Katherine where there are bottle shops.
    A short drive away from the mansion are the communities of Aboriginal dysfunction which the Abbariginal industry has entrenched over decades. The Garma festival wouldn’t exist without the behind the scenes work of whitefellas, heavy machinery and supply lines who will now be doing the cleaning up. Anybody who says they enjoyed the festival is lying. It’s hours and hours of nothing with a bit of stuff for the cameras. Would you see anybody with body paint in the normal course of things? Nooooo. Dancing? Nooooo. Hunting and gathering? Nooooo. What do you see? Broken or abandoned everything. Albo must have missed that. The only people who got it were John Howard and Mal Brough.
    Morning all.

  121. calli

    The only time I have recently felt “unsafe” in the States is when the Beloved and I took a wrong turn at our Union Square hotel and ended up at the start of the Tenderloin.

    My danger meter has been set on a hair trigger for many years now.

    Other places of “unsafeness” alert:

    Hamburg
    Paris
    London
    Beijing

  122. John Constantine

    Dogs and walkies.

    Got a friend that does short term fostering for a purebred retriever organisation. People that have to give up an older purebred hound often haven’t been up to regular walks, so before the dog is permanently rehomed they can take a few weeks of re-establishing routine. She can travel when she wants and be taken on walks when at home.

  123. Ivan Denisovich

    The laws were designed to be the most conservative euthanasia laws in the world, with patients required to meet strict criteria to be eligible.

    Sure.

    In the last hours of his life, Thornton explained why the Victorian laws had to “evolve” to include people like him – that “the focus on being terminal is wrong”…………

    Indeed, Mr Thornton’s physician Philip Nitschke is on record as describing Victoria’s safeguards as “beg and grovel provisions”. He considers that assisted suicide should not be restricted to the terminally ill, but should be the right of every adult person who is of ‘sound mind.’

    We’ve seen this before. Every jurisdiction that has legalised euthanasia and assisted suicide sooner or later comes under pressure from citizens who consider they are discriminated against because their particular case falls outside of the legal parameters.

    And we know that proponents of euthanasia and assisted suicide are never satisfied with death on demand for the dying, as the Victorian law has delivered.

    Because if death is a right, it should be everyone’s right.

    That’s why Belgium went from legalising euthanasia for anyone aged 12 and over in 2002 to eliminating all age restrictions in 2014.

    We have seen in Canada that three years out from legalising assisted suicide, there is pressure from advocates to extend euthanasia by way of advanced directive.

    It’s a natural progression. If a society believes it can eliminate suffering – real or imagined – by eliminating the sufferer, there can be no logical argument for limiting euthanasia to the terminally ill or physically sick or adults or any other specification. Because who doesn’t suffer?

    https://www.noeuthanasia.org.au/here_comes_australia_s_slippery_slope

  124. Bruce of Newcastle

    Get ready for more nutters.

    More than 20% of millennials claim to have no friends, poll finds (via Drudge)

    Abandon social institutions like churches and replace them with nothing and a certain number of people will go nuts. Ok people go nuts anyway, but with social structures less of them seem to do so. That’s in the report too.

  125. Percy Popinjay

    The Oz has kindly provided me with a cut down version of the Leak Jr cartoon featuring two of this country’s much loved meeja figures engaged in the peaceful resolution of a neighborehood dispute.

  126. Des Deskperson

    ‘How nice of the nurses to do her hair before killing her.’

    If you compare the two photos her on he ABC website, it almost looks like she’s been ‘made up’ for the final pic.

    The Fairfax effort looks like an entry in a comp for how many times you can use the terms ‘compassion’ and ‘compassionate ‘ in one article.

  127. calli

    The Beloved is missing his little friend horribly.

    He’s going to have a word to the boarding kennels to see if he can pop by each morning and give the boarders their walkies and help with other doggie duties. Apparently young ones are engaged only they don’t turn up, causing much frustration for the owner and distress for the pooches. The dole is clearly more attractive.

    He’d do it for free, of course. 😀

  128. struth

    It seems left wing identity politics pulled the trigger to another mass killing in the States.

    The anti Christian left wing onslaught against our culture has caused much misery.
    I note 1950’s America was also armed to the teeth, so what’s changed?

    “It’s complicated” Sniffy McSimpleton would tell you.
    It isn’t.

  129. Des Deskperson

    ‘Hamburg
    Paris
    London
    Beijing’

    I felt unsafe in Beijing, but only from the police and the ‘Bao’ans’

  130. Roger

    Australian government negotiating with Trump administration to buy emergency oil supplies.

    “Australia is a lucky country run mainly by second rate people [who] so lack curiosity about the events that surround them that they are often taken by surprise.”

    Donald Horne, 1964.

    It never gets old because our leaders keep living up to it.

  131. 1735099

    It seems left wing identity politics pulled the trigger to another mass killing in the States.

    So “left wing identity politics” is responsible for a nutter driving across Texas to kill Hispanics, but Donald Trump describing these same Hispanics as “drug dealers, criminals and rapists” has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Only on Catallaxy……

  132. Bruce of Newcastle

    Refute these facts –
    Gun deaths per 1000000 (2014 – 2017 figures) – Australia – 1.04: USA – 12.21. (Wiki)

    Ok.

    The disparities in how black and white men die in gun violence, state by state (CNN, 2018)

    Compared with white men, the researchers found that black men experienced 27 more firearm homicides per 100,000 people annually nationwide (29.12 for black men vs. 2.1 for white men).

    Seeing that many of those white men would’ve been murdered by black men you can see that the average in the US would be similar to the average in Australia…if policing was done without fear or favour. But the Democrats do now want black people to be freed from the plantation, as they’d lose votes.

  133. dover_beach

    Seven telling us that the Victorian euthanaia recipient died of breast cancer.

    Glad that’s cleared up.

    I thought she committed suicide with help from the state.

    The falsification of public records is condoned so long as it flatters the will.

  134. 1735099

    Compared with white men, the researchers found that black men experienced 27 more firearm homicides per 100,000 people annually nationwide (29.12 for black men vs. 2.1 for white men).

    So black gun deaths shouldn’t be counted in the statistics?
    That’s what you’re suggesting.

  135. struth

    All the shitholes of the world our jet setting , carbon spewing , socialist troll goes to, are disarmed and full of poverty and misery, he feels safe in …………………..well that’s important!
    He only visits, so what does he care for the people living under tyranny?

    Yet a superpower people are trying to get to in their millions, has armed citizens, and he can’t put two and two together.
    Because he doesn’t want to.
    Government is not something to be controlled, to a socialist.
    It’s their church.
    It’s something to obey.
    Social breakdown causes violence.
    And that is caused by the left and it’s cultural marxist attacks on our culture
    See Chicago and all dem governed cities.
    Virtue signalling lefties don’t care about social breakdown and violence, really, they love it.
    They’re just trying to de-arm the citizens………………and the know why.

  136. Geriatric Mayfly

    She lay in bed, surrounded by her energy crystals and under the soft, orange glow of her salt lamps as

    There might be a clue here. And what are salt lamps? I’ve got the energy crystals and essential oils, but seem to be missing this element from the wellness pharmacopeia.

  137. Mother Lode

    The argument around abortion needs grounding in reality and accurate language.

    A new human life begins at the precise moment a live sperm penetrates a live ovum.

    Don’t want to seem snarky, but a lot of people will get that far into the letter and then switch off because they disagree. What you treat as a given is in fact a point of contention – whether or not it is a human life. Whether what makes a human life human occurs at conception, or later.

    I do not state this as an assertion of a flaw to the argument, merely a flaw to the strategy of the argument.

    Just sayin’.

  138. 1735099

    It seems left wing identity politics pulled the trigger to another mass killing in the States.

    This nutter drove 10 hours to target Hispanics.
    So “left wing identity politics” is responsible, but Donald Trump frequently calling Hispanics “‘drug dealers, criminals and rapists”, has nothing to do with it?

  139. Geriatric Mayfly

    Teen threw child off roof
    Police believe a teenager grabbed a six-year-old boy and threw him off the 10-storey Tate Modern.

    More performance art.

  140. Dr Fred Lenin

    Albo ,nuclear is dearer than ruinables ? Ask the Germans ,they buy lots and lots of nuclear genersted power from France on the numerous occasions ruinables fail to supply the power needed .
    Tha initial cost is recovered quickly by the reliabilityand long life of nuclear plants 24/ 7 for many many years ,and they look much better than thousands of stupid windmills annoying people and killing wildlife , ,environmentaly much better.

  141. Bruce of Newcastle

    Indeed if you look through the data, many cities in the US have lower firearm murder rates than Australia – for white men despite massively higher legal ownership of firearms.

    Of course most of the murders by firearms are carried out using illegal weapons:

    90% of Guns Used in Crime Obtained Illegally (Jan 2019)

    That is from DoJ data, and as we know the DoJ rank and file aren’t friendly to Trump.

  142. struth

    Exactly, shy Ted.
    Yunupingu could really be described as one of, if not THE, head mafia man of Arnhem Land.

  143. Mater

    “It’s complicated” Sniffy McSimpleton would tell you.
    It isn’t.

    When you indoctrinate the young from daycare onwards to hate themselves, their heritage and anyone who doesn’t agree with them, what do they think is going to happen?
    The fact that these clowns bother to sit down a write a manifesto is telling in and of itself, regardless of what it says.

  144. 1735099

    It seems left wing identity politics pulled the trigger to another mass killing in the States.

    A nutter drives 10 hours to target Hispanics.
    So “left wing identity politics” is responsible, rather that Trump describing Hispanics as ” drug dealers, criminals and r*pists”?

    Only on Catallaxy…..

  145. Rae

    I thought she committed suicide with help from the state.

    Sure Hun. And the Westie died of natural causes, hey?

    The lady in Victoria had been fighting breast cancer since 2010. It had spread to her vital organs including her brain. Couldn’t take any more of the gruelling chemotherapy. I wrote about what that can be like a while ago when C.L. put up some rubbish about his version of dying with dignity. Hope you never have to go through it.

    Meantime, buy a yo-yo so you can still walk the “derg”.

  146. Bruce of Newcastle

    So black gun deaths shouldn’t be counted in the statistics?
    That’s what you’re suggesting.

    No, what I am suggesting is that Democrat cities need to be policed properly. The ‘broken windows’ approach to policing cleaned up NYC.

    But Democrats, as I said, don’t want their ‘clients’ freed. They might vote for someone else in that case.

    Ferguson effect

    The Ferguson effect is the idea that increased distrust of police following the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri has led to an increased crime rate (or sometimes increased murder rate) in major U.S. cities. The mechanism usually suggested is that police have less vigorous enforcement in situations that might lead to backlash, though other mechanisms are suggested. The term was coined by Doyle Sam Dotson III, the chief of the St. Louis police, to account for an increased murder rate in some U.S. cities following the Ferguson unrest.[1]

    Many murders can be laid at the feet of Black Lives Matter.

  147. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Yunupingu could really be described as one of, if not THE, head mafia man of Arnhem Land.

    I’ll bet good money he sees himself as one of the “Voice.”

  148. John Constantine

    Once Big australia dynamites our aluminium smelters, the chicom peoples liberation slave labour aluminium smelters will be big winners.

    Ruinable slave labour solar panels are leading the charge to the electricity pricing and rationing that will make it economic to dynamite australias smelters instead of running them.

    https://newsroom.abf.gov.au/channels/Border-Operations-hidden-/releases/abf-tightens-the-screws-on-aluminium-dumping

    The peoples liberation army dumping into australia the weapons their australian satraps will use to deindustrialise then dynamite the smelters.

    Multiple companies that were deliberately created to deceive the ABF have also been shut down and several visas have been referred for cancellation.

    “This investigation is very much live and ongoing – and we would like to send a strong message to those attempting to smuggle these items into Australia while avoiding duty. The ABF is aware of these attempts and is working very hard with industry and partner agencies to combat them. When you are caught, you will face the full force of the law,” Assistant Commissioner Dale said.

    The attempts have allegedly included transhipping aluminium to Australia via third countries that do not attract dumping duties such as Indonesia and Singapore. Further action against those involved in this activity is likely, with the investigation continuing to uncover information on those smuggling, evading duty and providing false statements.

  149. mh

    Yesterday I was seeking weather information for Edgbaston and could not find radar images anything like our own BOM radar info. Everything seemed amateurish compared to Australia.

  150. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump’s approach to this problem is to get black people into jobs. Black unemployment is at a record low. Once they are off welfare they are less dependent on corrupt Democrat politicians and can potentially escape the gang culture. It’s a very very hard problem, but at least he’s trying. Unlike the Democrats, who are making it worse.

  151. Roger

    She must be having an impact:

    The NYT has run a hit piece on Tulsi Gabbard in which she is called “an agent of influence for Russia”.

  152. Rafiki redux

    Calli – why did you find Hamburg unsafe? During 2 five weeks stays there in the last three years I experienced no fears. One sray was in a clean, safe hostel 50 metres from the Reeperbahn U station.

  153. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Noel Pearson: Lack of recognition an existential threat to Yolngu people

    Paige Taylor
    Indigenous Affairs Correspondent
    @paigeataylor
    12:00AM August 5, 2019
    109 Comments

    Cape York leader Noel Pearson has linked constitutional reform with the survival of Australia’s most traditional indigenous communities, saying the absence of recognition is an “existential threat” to people such as the ­Yolngu of Arnhem Land.

    Mr Pearson’s speech at the Garma festival at the weekend was a blistering attack on the Institute of Public Affairs and others who reject the 2017 Uluru Statement from the Heart and its call for a constitutionally enshrined indigenous voice.

    He said the truth was out about the “just” movement for a First Nations voice in the constitution and now “only lies” could defeat it.

    His speech buoyed Uluru supporters a day after Gumatj clan leader Galarrwuy Yunupingu, a father of the land rights movement, opened Garma with a demand for significant consti­tutional reform.

    Dr Yunupingu said the Constitution rejected his Yolngu people and that must change.

    “We are thinking of our Constitution, how we can take it and make it a real law for Yolngu ­people as well as Balanda (non-Aboriginal) people,” Dr Yunu­pingu said. “We are doing that, asking for the rights to be accepted by the commonwealth government and by everybody else.”

    Last night, Mr Pearson said Dr Yunupingu’s people were entitled to choose their place in the world.

    “The absence of recognition is an existential threat to the rich traditional society of the Yolngu. This is why I have stood with Galarrwuy Yunupingu on this,” Mr Pearson told The Australian.

    From the Oz.

  154. Chris

    Many murders can be laid at the feet of Black Lives Matter.

    And mass shootings at the feet of the Democrat/Media Industrial Leftist Activist Complex.

    They teach how to do it.
    They offer millions of dollars in free publicity to those who do one.
    They make it clear you have to use an AR15 or other scary black rifle to get the freebies.
    And their evil leftist values do not ascribe blame for crime to the criminals, but to ideological enemies and perhaps ‘society’.

    That is why we have increasing mass shootings; the perpetrators, activists and media profit together.

  155. C.L.

    I thought she committed suicide with help from the state.

    Be careful not to slip into Orwell-speak.
    There is no such thing as “assisted suicide.”
    She was killed by several people.
    There word is homicide.

  156. Speedbox:

    More generally, I unreservedly accept that a handgun against a rifle is a dangerous proposition for the handgun operator – which would seem to reinforce my original point that armed civilians (particularly with a handgun) are not realistically able to act as a defense for the unarmed population against lunatics with a rifle.

    I’m struggling to find a reply that suits this kind of remark. But here goes:
    Chance of failure against certainty of failure.
    Run – cower – beg.
    Vertebrate or invertebrate – God will be your judge.

  157. DrBeauGan

    So black gun deaths shouldn’t be counted in the statistics?
    That’s what you’re suggesting.

    What BoN is pointing out is that you have two different populations with different characteristics. Pooling them doesn’t give useful information. If you measured the heights of a population of five year olds and then did the same with a population of 55 year olds, the average of the whole lot wouldn’t tell you anything about the height of thirty year olds.

    This is very simple statistics. You need to understand the subject a lot better than you do if you’re going to convince anyone with statistical arguments.

  158. Mother Lode

    Dr Yunupingu

    It is an honorary doctorate, isn’t it? Doesn’t that mean they don’t get to style themselves “Dr”?

    He seems rather indifferent to our traditions if so.

  159. dover_beach

    The laws were designed to be the most conservative euthanasia laws in the world, with patients required to meet strict criteria to be eligible.

    Sure.

    In the last hours of his life, Thornton explained why the Victorian laws had to “evolve” to include people like him – that “the focus on being terminal is wrong”…………

    Indeed, Mr Thornton’s physician Philip Nitschke is on record as describing Victoria’s safeguards as “beg and grovel provisions”. He considers that assisted suicide should not be restricted to the terminally ill, but should be the right of every adult person who is of ‘sound mind.’

    There should be no surprise that people are already expressing their intent to widen the scope of the law’s operation. Always pay attention to an argument’s major premise. In the case of euthanasia, when it’s ‘quality of life’ the practice will naturally come to include both voluntary and involuntary euthanasia. If it’s ‘autonomy’ you will see it include people that are terminally ill, chronically ill, but also physically health people with nothing more than ennui.

  160. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Please also include the term “Cardimona” in your post so I can “control-F” search the pages of the thread – as usual, I am many pages behind the live action.

    How do you do this ‘control-F’ thingo?

    I am never successful in doing any back-searches on past threads. Also, windows 10 have just done an update on me and I don’t know what that may have done. My technological incompetence is almost absolute and Hairy has given up on me and my working by what he calls ‘folklore’.
    Cats are my only source of comfort in this.

  161. C.L.

    It seems left wing identity politics pulled the trigger to another mass killing in the States.

    Ultimately, that’s true.
    Leftism has produced a nihilistic, death-obsessed culture where faith, family, sex, marriage and human life itself have all been undermined to the point of meaninglessness. Nobody who supports Planned Parenthood may comment on mass shootings. All abortionists are psychopathic killers.

  162. Top Ender

    Comment rejected by The Australian:

    “Dr Yunupingu” is not entitled to be called “Dr”. He was once given an honorary doctorate. He has not submitted a thesis to earn the title.

  163. stackja

    Coalition masterclass in how NSW politics destroys public trust

    NSW voters backed the Coalition and Gladys Berejiklian on development, but now suffer a government in thrall to losers, writes Gray Connolly.
    Gray Connolly, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only

    August 5, 2019 6:37am

    The Coalition government that Gladys Berejiklian nominally heads has recently provided a masterclass in why NSW politics destroys any public trust.

    Firstly, there was the NSW government’s bizarre decision to deny permission for the building of a new Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Pyrmont.

    It is no smatter matter for a supposedly right-wing government to have spent five years mismanaging a George Street light rail (that no one wanted) while vetoing a Sydney hotel project that is desperately needed.

    Where some Liberal MPs have a portrait of Margaret Thatcher on their walls, one can only assume that Gladys Berejiklian has one of Clover Moore.
    Secondly, there was the bonkers decision by NSW Liberals to further the Greens’ agenda of abortion on ­demand.

    The abortion bill before the State Parliament, which provides for abortions up to an infanticidal 22 weeks, was never campaigned on by the Coalition in the March election — and for very good reasons.

    The bloodletting now underway within the Coalition’s ranks was and is both wholly self-inflicted and could well do lasting damage.

  164. cohenite

    It’s not that the troll doesn’t like guns it’s that he doesn’t like people being able to defend themselves because the government can’t protect their citizens: Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders

  165. Roger

    It is an honorary doctorate, isn’t it? Doesn’t that mean they don’t get to style themselves “Dr”?

    Yes. And journalists should know that as well.

  166. Anthony

    How can the US protect Mexican nationals from attacks by madmen in the US?

  167. Roger

    Leftism has produced a nihilistic, death-obsessed culture where faith, family, sex, marriage and human life itself have all been undermined to the point of meaninglessness.

    Cf. Dennis Prager

  168. Tom

    Social media has turned millions of mostly young people into narcissistic, psychopathic loners.

    Who invented social media? The psychopathic loners of Silicon Valley, which bans and fires anyone who doesn’t vote for the Democratic Party.

  169. stackja

    Shots fired into Maidstone home in overnight attack

    A suburban home in Melbourne’s west was peppered with dozens of gunshots last night, with the terrifying incident waking a sleeping man and woman inside. The gunman remains on the run.
    Brianna Travers, Herald Sun
    8 minutes ago

    A sleeping man and woman were woken in a terrifying manner after multiple gunshots were fired into their home in Melbourne’s west overnight.

    A number of rounds struck the Yellow Box St home in Maidstone around 11.35pm last night, before the gunman fled the scene.

    The door to the house is littered with at least a dozen bullet holes, with at least ten shotgun pellets seen outside the house.

  170. Old School Conservative

    That’s what you’re suggesting.

    Cathy Newman – “so you’re saying…..”

  171. C.L.

    “Dr Yunupingu” is not entitled to be called “Dr”. He was once given an honorary doctorate. He has not submitted a thesis to earn the title.

    That’s correct. Recipients of honorary doctorates may not call themselves “Dr” and should not be addressed with that title. The Australian is ignoring that strict rule because it figures he’s an Aborigine and deserves a thrown bone. Earning a good quality PhD is extremely difficult and almost always comes at a personal price. It’s that kind of venture. The way universities cheapen the honour by giving away a cereal box version for PR purposes is disgraceful.

  172. Chris

    How can the US protect Mexican nationals from attacks by madmen in the US?

    “Men dying in street violence – women, children hardest hit.”

  173. Mother Lode

    Comment rejected by The Australian:

    “Dr Yunupingu” is not entitled to be called “Dr”. He was once given an honorary doctorate. He has not submitted a thesis to earn the title.

    Maybe they think it is peevish snark – because they themselves do not know the actual convention.

    They are journalists and not trained to deal in information.

  174. 1735099

    This is very simple statistics. You need to understand the subject a lot better than you do if you’re going to convince anyone with statistical arguments.

    Far smarter people than I have already done that.

  175. Ivan Denisovich

    In the case of euthanasia, when it’s ‘quality of life’ the practice will naturally come to include both voluntary and involuntary euthanasia. If it’s ‘autonomy’ you will see it include people that are terminally ill, chronically ill, but also physically health people with nothing more than ennui.

    Yep.

    In 2002, the Netherlands was the first country in the world to legalize euthanasia. Today, Dutch euthanasia is moving away from “straightforward” cases where a patient has a terminal illness like cancer—and into more oblique territory.

    Since 2009, there has been a significant increase in euthanasia for patients with dementia and psychiatric illness. Doctors are also more open to euthanizing elderly patients who have an “accumulation of old-age complaints” rather than an actual terminal illness.

    At the forefront of these developments is the Life End’s Clinic, based in The Hague. The clinic employs 40 doctors who provide euthanasia to patients whose own GPs refuse to assist. In 2016, there were 60 reported instances of euthanasia for patients with psychiatric illness. Of those, 46 were administered by Life’s End Clinic doctors. They were responsible for 40 percent of all instances of euthanasia for dementia patients. For patients with an accumulation of old-age complaints, nearly 50 percent of instances of euthanasia were administered by Life’s End Clinic doctors.

    The clinic describes itself as an “expertise center for complex euthanasia requests.” Their doctors admit their decision to grant a request, when a patient’s own doctor has refused, can be subjective at times.

    This was illustrated in the controversial 2016 documentary Life’s End Clinic (Levenseindekliniek) which aired on Dutch public television. The filmmakers interviewed Ans Dijkstra, who was 100 years old and requested euthanasia even though she does not have a terminal illness. She described her suffering thus: “It’s the one-dimensionality and the pain. All my fingers are stiff. I drop everything. I do nothing right. I think, ‘What am I still living for?’ My arm hurts in the night. I have trouble getting up in the morning.”

    She was ultimately euthanized by a Life’s End Clinic doctor. He said, “I have the feeling that Mrs. Dijkstra’s case completely fits within the law. But also within my own boundaries. Given Mrs. Dijkstra’s situation, I understand her request very well. It’s relatable. So my feelings tell me to say not no, but yes. And perhaps the feelings of her GP told him the exact opposite.”

    Euthanasia for patients with physical terminal illnesses is widely accepted by the Dutch people. But the new developments are controversial. The Life’s End Clinic documentary provoked a national debate. Viewers were particularly troubled by the case of dementia patient Hannie Goudriaan, 68. Some wondered if her husband was the one pushing for her death. In the documentary, he says, “If [the euthanasia] doesn’t go through then Hannie will soon have to go to a care home. If she goes to a care home, I won’t visit her anymore because I won’t go visit an empty person. If Hannie doesn’t see me for a month then she won’t recognize me anymore and then I won’t feel like visiting her anymore.”

    Moments before she received the fatal injection, Mrs. Goudriaan indicated she would like it to happen in another room—possibly to get away from the television camera. Her husband told her to stay seated where she was.

    To become eligible for euthanasia, Dutch law says a patient must have unbearable suffering with no treatment alternatives. The day before her death, Mrs. Goudriaan is still driving her car. Her husband calls this “autopilot.” She drives them both to a cafe where they share a drink with friends. She then drives them to a speed-skating competition. Afterward, she dances along to the music of a brass band.

    Some Dutch viewers were outraged. Victor Lamme, a professor of cognitive neuroscience at the University of Amsterdam, wrote an op-ed saying Mrs. Goudriaan’s death is proof that Dutch euthanasia is on a “slippery slope and is being used to solve very different problems than unbearable suffering.”

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/death-on-demand-dutch-euthanasia-moves-in-disturbing-direction/

  176. mh

    Video captures the moment a van jumps 10 feet into the air over roundabout

    https://www.foxnews.com/auto/video-van-jumps-over-roundabout

  177. Tom

    They are journalists and not trained to deal in information.

    Liberty quote.

  178. cohenite

    We’ve done this a number (sic) of times: I’m not going to rehash the stats which are:
    Black on black gun crime is over 10 times other gun crime
    With black on black and Hispanic gun crime removed the US gun crime rate is similar to Australia’s
    The worst areas for gun crime are all democrat areas with the strictest gun laws, equal at least to Australia’s
    The worst area for gun crime is the District of Columbia which is the worst in the world; it is a demorat area with strict gun laws.

    These mass shootings are terrible. Armed private citizens could have stopped them. We know this because a comprehensive study showed:

    The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by police is 14.29

    The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a civilian is 2.33

    You can never stop terrorism which not only uses guns but vehicles, planes, bombs and knifes. Crime gun violence is rampant in the black communities of demorat cities like Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans etc.

    The troll won’t address this issue because it is a piece of shit but the key issue is does a citizen have a right to protect themselves. We know the left thinks not, fatty ashton has said so, so there is this basic difference before you even get around to whether the citizen can use a gun to defend themselves.

  179. C.L.

    “If [the euthanasia] doesn’t go through then Hannie will soon have to go to a care home. If she goes to a care home, I won’t visit her anymore because I won’t go visit an empty person. If Hannie doesn’t see me for a month then she won’t recognize me anymore and then I won’t feel like visiting her anymore.”

    Moments before she received the fatal injection, Mrs. Goudriaan indicated she would like it to happen in another room—possibly to get away from the television camera. Her husband told her to stay seated where she was.

    I wish I was there. I would have punched the cowardly dog in the head.

  180. stackja

    Meanwhile:

    At Least 3 Killed, 40 Wounded In Weekend Shootings Across Chicago

    Tracking Chicago homicide victims
    In Chicago, 293 people have been killed this year.

    That is 33 fewer than 2018.

    Data through Saturday, July 27

  181. Bruce of Newcastle

    Far smarter people than I have already done that.

    Squirrel.

    You were talking about the firearm murder rate per 100,000 populations. Which I responded to with data disproving your hypothesis. Those two papers are about mass murder events. That is not comparing like with like.

  182. stackja
    #3123689, posted on August 5, 2019 at 9:46 am
    Shots fired into Maidstone home in overnight attack

    ….. with at least ten shotgun pellets seen outside the house.

    Wow, good eyesight to spot those.

  183. stackja

    Not Uh oh
    #3123705, posted on August 5, 2019 at 10:06 am

    Yes!

  184. John Constantine

    We know that it isn’t the Latinos dying that is the issue to their left, because only a short drive south of the USA, a Latino is murdered every twenty mimutes, of every hour of every day of every week of every month.

    The civil war to impose Tyranny upon free people is simply posing as a concern against violence while it is useful to them.

    Once the State has a complete monopoly on violence, their left will unleash violence in an orgy of bloodsoaked purges, just as they always have.

    It is pointless them making detailed lists of their enemies without them being able to have phantasies about genociding them.

    Comrades.

  185. Mother Lode

    They are journalists and not trained to deal in information.

    Liberty quote.

    Thank , Tom.

    It is an honour just to be nominated.

  186. Geriatric Mayfly

    ….. with at least ten shotgun pellets seen outside the house.
    Wow, good eyesight to spot those.

    My teeth had no difficulty in finding those, as a kid, when black duck was on the menu.

  187. Chris

    ….. with at least ten shotgun pellets seen outside the house.

    If the perps have not been identified, why do the media claim they are ‘on the run’?

  188. JC

    Send for Dr. Trump

    The Missing Papers
    One of the more controversial topics involving Nikola Tesla is what became of many of his technical and scientific papers after he died in 1943. Just before his death at the height of World War II, he claimed that he had perfected his so-called “death beam.” So it was natural that the FBI and other U.S. Government agencies would be interested in any scientific ideas involving weaponry. Some were concerned that Tesla’s papers might fall into the hands of the Axis powers or the Soviets.

    The FBI Director asked an expert to review the papers to see if there was anything worthwhile.
    Dr. John G. Trump, an electrical engineer with the National Defense Research Committee of the Office of Scientific Research and Development, was called in to analyze the Tesla papers in OAP custody. Following a three-day investigation, Dr. Trump concluded:
    His [Tesla’s] thoughts and efforts during at least the past 15 years were primarily of a speculative, philosophical, and somewhat promotional character often concerned with the production and wireless transmission of power; but did not include new, sound, workable principles or methods for realizing such results.

    That was the Trumpster’s uncle and the FBI honcho was Edgar Hoover.

    Wiki

    John George Trump (August 21, 1907 – February 21, 1985) was an American electrical engineer, inventor, and physicist. A professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology from 1936 to 1973, he was a recipient of U.S. President Ronald Reagan’s National Medal of Science and a member of the National Academy of Engineering.[3][4][5] John Trump was noted for developing rotational radiation therapy.[3] Together with Robert J. Van de Graaff, he developed one of the first million-volt X-ray generators. He was the paternal uncle of Donald Trump, who would later go on to become the 45th president of the United States.

    H/T Steve Sailer.

  189. OSC:

    Cathy Newman – “so you’re saying…..”

    I thought no one would be silly enough to use this phrase after the verbal pasting she got.
    But noooo…

  190. Bruce in WA

    ‘Hamburg
    Paris
    London
    Beijing’

    Ours was Valparaiso where, walking up a street, a local looked at us, shook his head and drew a finger across his throat.

    Have never felt “unsafe” in the USA, but then we steer clear of troublespots.

  191. Mater

    Watch this testimony about what happens when you are disempowered (about 7 minutes).

    https://youtu.be/xKMAbC1-d2I

  192. stackja

    Chris – ‘on the run’ just to round off story.

  193. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The hand-made tourist vid from Venezuela insert above was extremely interesting. There was an authenticity to the travel, the people met, the beautiful places filmed, and the general dereliction of the infrastructure and buildings, as well as the non-contents of the shops. Many third world places have elements of this, but what was missing was the vitality of a life that is rising from poverty, albeit within resource constraints, but which had all the enthusiasm of hopeful entrepreneurial activity. That sort of vitality was apparent on my recent trip to Kenya and Tanzania.

    Venezuela reminded me very much indeed, in all of its depressing detail, of Sri Lanka in the early 1970’s when I spent a year there with my first husband and our firstborn baby; a society in decline from something that was sharper, smarter, better at one time. There, as in Venezuela in this vid, even a cursory glance showed there was no evidence of profits being spent on improvements, albeit minor ones, and less pride of ownership in the few bits and sticks that people owned than in the developing third world. This was depressing, a product of the socialist dead hand on the market and on profit, even for smallholders. There, as in Venezuela where the shop only stocked simple candles, there was a also the same return to traditional foodstuffs, and simple wicked oil lamps instead of electricity (going back 2000 years in Sri Lanka if you looked at the same lamps in the museums). In such systems, you just know there is a flourishing black market in the background, and a general immiseration of the people, including a slow decline of a once prosperous working and middle class in the population. I doubt I would recognize Sri Lanka today, and I am glad of that, although I am sure those lovely friendly people would still be just as charming as they were then.

  194. JC

    Stack

    Have you ever tried to farm bicycle tires?

  195. ABC on the NBN PoS. (no link)

    For me, the NBN is enforced, higher cost, with implementation costs, slower than previous cable service, less reliable.
    Power consumption of NBN “modem” and RSP provided router (PoS) is ridiculously high for what it does.
    My home phone “service” is now so dysfunctional that I only keep it because spouse “Likes the idea of a home phone”.

    In summary, I cannot find an upside to the NBN.

  196. Mater
    #3123717, posted on August 5, 2019 at 10:18 am
    Watch this testimony

    Strong stuff Mater. Thanks

  197. stackja

    Colors 1988 movie about Los Angeles gangs. What has changed?

  198. mh

    This weekend in NRL

    Brisbane Broncos lost 40 4
    Gold Coast Titans lost 58 6
    North Qld Cowboys lost 28 4

    I don’t think anyone should be discussing a fourth Qld NRL team.

  199. Bruce in WA

    The door to the house is littered with at least a dozen bullet holes, with at least ten shotgun pellets seen outside the house.

    You can’t “litter” holes.

    You’d be lucky to spot a shotgun “pellet”.

    The photo shows rimmed centrefire cartridge cases … from the look of them, from a .22 Hornet; surely it should have been one of those high-powered, assault, killing machines!

    The holes from the shotgun show a mish-mash of sizes and pellet counts; everything from about No. 7 up to BB.

  200. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Every ‘woke’ child in our schools should be shown videos like this one, which clearly depict the end result of the paradise of ‘free stuff’ that socialism produces. They might also ponder on what the local shops in their own town would look like without the wonders of coal and oil, given their utility in power production, and the international and national transportation of goods, let alone the many things made from oil-based materials that we rely on in daily life.

  201. Knuckle Dragger

    Shy Ted, earlier;

    Yes. I know of the Arnhem Land mansion, and old mate living off inherited cash a la the whitey system.

    One other thing I would add is that of the few locals with the skills to mow his lawns and paint his house and fix his roof and thus get paid for it, they are humbugged out of every cent of their pay packets by ‘family’ that appear from nowhere.

    Not sponge off Yunipingu, mind. Sponge off the punters that work for him. Who, by the way are also selected from the right skin group.

    Yunipingu himself is revered by the locals because Dad. If they knew the number of zeros in his bank account and of his own personal splendour, they’d invade his little slice of paradise and chop it to bits for firewood.

  202. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A good video to show at Newtown High School of the Performing Arts, hotbed of student ‘wokeness’.

  203. Knuckle Dragger

    Bruce,

    The .22 Hornet would be excellent for close-in work. One in the earhole and it ricochets around the inside of the skull, creating the equivalent of mashed spuds as it goes. It is shit, however, for night time drive-bys and whoever did it should be embarrassed as hell.

    We are all fortunate, however, that the ‘journalists’ on the job didn’t refer to the shotgun pellet impacts as ‘bullet holes’.

  204. dover_beach

    I wish I was there. I would have punched the cowardly dog in the head.

    Indeed, and to think he shamelessly uttered this aloud.

  205. feelthebern

    She must be having an impact:

    The NYT has run a hit piece on Tulsi Gabbard in which she is called “an agent of influence for Russia”

    Tulsi had a live streaming event shadow banned by twitter & fb this morning.

  206. Knuckle Dragger

    OSC, 12.36 am;

    ‘But Smith can never be captain again. He is too weak. The one bright thought is that the immense preoccupation of Australians with the affair reminds them just how much we love our great game.’

    Excellent indeed, Mr Howard.

    But which Howard was this? John Howard? Pat Howard, ex HP coach at CA? Howard the Duck?

  207. 1735099

    Which I responded to with data disproving your hypothesis.

    Your “data” proves nothing except that the USA is (as posters here are fond of repeating) a “diverse” community.
    To say that because gun violence is more of an issue in some parts of the USA than it is in others, the overall rate (11 times ours) should be ignored, is bizarre.

    I don’t have an “hypothesis”.
    I have a set of facts, including the correlation between gun prevalence, inconsistent and inadequate regulation, and the fatality rate. The factors you refer to don’t alter the result.

  208. stackja

    JC once posted about itself :

    I’m boring and not very nice. Just forget about me.

  209. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Dems are learning democracy the hard way. They think it’s a Lion King fantasy where the cutest animals don’t get torn apart and eaten.’

    Ha! Love it!

  210. stackja

    ir – ‘upside’ for NBN, Kev got elected.

  211. Some History

    Dayton, Ohio, in the news for other reasons.

    Ohio city’s ban on hiring smokers, vapers could be ‘slippery slope,’ some fear

    More bad news for smokers and vapers: The city of Dayton, Ohio, says it will no longer hire anyone who uses nicotine or tobacco.
    The rationale: City officials say they want to encourage a healthier workplace and environment – and also save money.
    “Studies indicate that employees that smoke cost approximately an additional $6,000 per year in direct medical costs and lost productivity,” Kenneth Couch, the city’s director of human resources, told the Dayton Daily News.
    But leaders of labor unions say they fear the new city policy could be a “slippery slope” that could lead to employees facing more scrutiny of their personal habits and private lives that have little or nothing to do with their job performance.
    “We are not thrilled about it,” Rick Oakley, president of the Dayton Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 44, told the newspaper. “But we also understand where the city is coming from because the biggest part of their health care costs are from nicotine-related illnesses.”

    RTWT

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/ohio-citys-ban-on-hiring-smokers-vapers-could-be-slippery-slope-some-fear

    What is “nicotine-related illness”?
    “Studies indicate that employees that smoke cost approximately an additional $6,000 per year in direct medical costs and lost productivity” is a load of agenda-driven crap.

  212. Bruce in WA

    The .22 Hornet would be excellent for close-in work. One in the earhole and it ricochets around the inside of the skull, creating the equivalent of mashed spuds as it goes. It is shit, however, for night time drive-bys and whoever did it should be embarrassed as hell.

    True.

    We are all fortunate, however, that the ‘journalists’ on the job didn’t refer to the shotgun pellet impacts as ‘bullet holes’.

    Sadly, however, the “journo” did indeed come up with the following:

    Dozens of bullet holes in the door.

    No, most of them are pellet holes.

    Damage on the home’s facade.

    Damage to

    The pellets appear to be from both a rifle and a shotgun.

    (facepalm)

  213. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sometimes it’s really hard to work out whether a story is truth or satire.

    ‘Let mosquitoes take blood donation’: Animal rights activist raises eyebrows with bizarre plea
    (via BCF)

    An animal rights activist is facing unwavering ridicule for urging people to not kill mosquitoes, and instead give them the “blood donation” they need to nourish their future children.

    Unsurprisingly, the suggestion was extremely poorly received and Caron was quickly branded a “fool”and“dangerously irresponsible.” He was also the subject of a satirical article which claimed that he died of malaria and dengue fever after refusing to use mosquito repellent in an infested area.

    And if this guy is being satirical, what of the satirical article written about him? Satire of satire is a brain-bending philosophical concept.

  214. feelthebern

    KD, do you run the sportsbet social media feed?
    Frickin’ hilarious.

  215. Chris

    “Studies indicate that employees that smoke cost approximately an additional $6,000 per year in direct medical costs and lost productivity,” Kenneth Couch, the city’s director of human resources, told the Dayton Daily News.

    How does that work out for ‘bath-house’ patronage and other ‘lifestyle’ risks?

  216. Knuckle Dragger

    Further headlines and sidebars on the Maidstone shooting will, of course, include:

    ‘Police baffled by firestorm gunmen’

    ‘Resident refuses to co-operate with authorities’

    ‘Premier says streets are safe to walk at night’

    ‘”It was like a war zone” says neighbour from across the road and down the street a bit’

    ‘Plea to end carnage from top cop’

    ‘Prisons to upgrade Fox coverage to all channels’

  217. 1735099

    The .22 Hornet would be excellent for close-in work

    WTF is “close-in work”, and if you’re describing the .22 Hornet as a “tool”, what “work” would you be doing with it?’

  218. Eyrie

    “A new human life begins at the precise moment a live sperm penetrates a live ovum.”
    A chance at a human life actually. Lots of hurdles from there to a viable foetus and quite a few fail.
    Which isn’t an argument for or against abortion.

  219. notafan

    The son of Northern Land Council (NLC) chairman Galarrwuy Yunupingu was sentenced to 15 months’ jail today for killing a close relative at his Arnhem Land home.

    Gavin Makuma Yunupingu, 27, kicked his 40-year-old sister-in-law – his cousin according to western understanding – once in the head on the verandah of his Ski Beach home near Nhulunbuy on August 9, 2000

    how wasn’t that a manslaughter charge?.
    aboriginal women’s lives (don’t) matter

  220. Knuckle Dragger

    Bern,

    Nah. I don’t go for Sportsbet and the like because I’m frigging hopeless once I get started.

    Most of my mates are, though. Flurries of phone activity precede any footy match, race etc when I’m gathered with my equally unsavoury associates.

    I’ll occasionally put a quiet wager on through one of my mates, though, Jaidyn Stephenson-style.

    Keno stings me quite enough.

  221. Roger

    Tulsi had a live streaming event shadow banned by twitter & fb this morning.

    Bastards.

  222. Eyrie

    Pity the folks on Flight 93 didn’t have at least one gun (work on the theory that if going to a fight, bring a gun and bring friends with guns) with which to charge the cockpit, instead of a serving trolley.
    At least they died like free men, not cowering like sheep. (I imagine their thoughts were along the lines of:
    I didn’t plan on it ending this way but here goes anyway)

  223. stackja

    Bruce in WA – Journalists today are university trained.

  224. dover_beach

    “If [the euthanasia] doesn’t go through then Hannie will soon have to go to a care home. If she goes to a care home, I won’t visit her anymore because I won’t go visit an empty person. If Hannie doesn’t see me for a month then she won’t recognize me anymore and then I won’t feel like visiting her anymore.”

    Moments before she received the fatal injection, Mrs. Goudriaan indicated she would like it to happen in another room—possibly to get away from the television camera. Her husband told her to stay seated where she was.

    Sorry, but as I posted the same quote above and referred to his shamelessness, the thought arose that this is precisely one of the fruits of a society that abhors genuine moral reasoning and judgment. If you want the law to only enforce morality where its intervention is most pressing so as to avoid an overbearing policing apparratus, you need to both train people in virtue (habituate good conduct and internalize self-examination) as well as cultivating the honest examination of human action, socially, and the approvals, disapprovals, and corrections, they may entail.

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