Tuesday Forum: August 6, 2019

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  1. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Good god.

    I did not know the Green Nude Eel was THIS BAD:

    https://freedomwire.com/green-new-deal-costs-quadrillion-dollars/

    Nothing’s Free…

    As you can imagine, this plan isn’t going to be cheap.

    In fact, it will cost a quadrillion dollars. That is not a typo!

    Fox News reported on a study performed by the Competitive Enterprise Institute. They wrote, “the study found that the battleground state of Pennsylvania would face over $2 quadrillion in costs for upgrading residential, commercial, and industrial buildings. Florida would encounter a $1.4 quadrillion price tag, and New Hampshire, one of the first primary states, would face a $102. 8 trillion in retrofitting costs.”

    In-case you are unfamiliar with how large a number a quadrillion is the article explains that “a quadrillion, which is equal to one thousand trillion, is represented by a 1 followed by 15 zeroes. One quadrillion would be roughly 250 times the annual federal budget.”

    That number helps put in perspective the craziness of the Democrats.

    The reported costs in Alaska and New Hampshire would be much higher than the national debt. ($352.8 trillion for New Mexico and $533.4 trillion for Alaska.)

    Someone should explain to AOC that money doesn’t just grow on trees. While you’re at it, tell her unicorns and magic aren’t real either.

    You would have to believe in all the above to think the Green New Deal is remotely feasible.

    Literally, all the money in the world cannot pay for this green left dipshit led madness.

    70,000 USD per family per year for the 1st 10 years to implement the green nude eel.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    forced participation could produce extreme anxiety in non-athletic students and put them off exercise for life.

    Forced participation.
    A problem that doesn’t exist.
    Even back last century we were encouraged to participate on sports carnival days, but never forced.
    Sure, athletic kids would have a go at everything, but there were plenty of fun novelty events for non-jocks.
    Mind you, the jocks often had to put up with humiliation in maths and grammar classes the remaining 137.2% of the time.
    Nup.
    This is the strawman to remove sports from schools because damaging.

  3. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    forced participation could produce extreme anxiety in non-athletic students and put them off exercise for life.

    Sure. Let’s apply the same principle to practical skills and academics.

    We can all be dumb, useless, piss-weak but not triggered!

  4. thefrollickingmole

    But, but, think of all the jobs which disappeared because the illegals werent there to do the jobs at wages Americans couldnt afford.

    Infidel Tiger
    #3127019, posted on August 9, 2019 at 8:17 am
    Ryan James Girdusky
    @RyanGirdusky
    When a Chicago-based bakery was forced to fire 800 illegal aliens, they replaced them all with Americans (mostly black Americans) and workers at the plant received a 40% raise… libertarian economics means Americans last.
    (link: https://chicago.suntimes.com/2018/2/16/18355997/at-major-northwest-side-bakery-labor-issues-pit-blacks-vs-hispanics) chicago.suntimes.com/2018/2/16/1

    Its nearly the simplest case of supply and demand around (particularly where there are bugger all minimum wage laws), less workers means more competition for those that are around. This puts upward pressure on wages/conditions far more effectively than our idiot system.

  5. notafan

    what is it about a certain demographic and youth?

    First Things are absolutely right.

    scandal in south Carolina

  6. Some History

    That ugly bastard michael moore undergoes some sort of epiphany and rejects renewables

    Michael Moore-Onn.

  7. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    What matters is the productivity of the worker/s compared to their total wage costs.

    But Okwusa says Cloverhill soon ran into problems. In a memo to the company, Okwusa, who is African American, wrote that the black workers “displayed a higher turnover rate of over 40 percent and a lower efficiency rate than their Hispanic co-workers.”

    Good luck to whoever ends up owning the place. 40% turnover after a 40% pay rise is curious.

  8. Roger

    “There are 71 million displaced people and refugees around the world and we have some very significant protection obligations in our region.”

    Jacinda Ardern seems eager to help.

  9. Lilliana

    forced participation could produce extreme anxiety in non-athletic students and put them off exercise for life

    Given the way sprogs are reared these days it could be correct. The sensitive little darlings are so easily damaged that an sudden breeze could cause anxiety.

    I was one of those “non-athletic” students. Hated sport carnivals – was and am totally useless at every sport but somehow I survived and exercise regulatory.

    This sort of BS just makes me realise that we are living in the age of morons. How can we have become so fucking stupid?

  10. Roger

    Australian states now opening the door to sex selective abortions to accommodate the culture of certain demographics.

    Feminism consuming itself.

  11. Mater

    Even back last century we were encouraged to participate on sports carnival days, but never forced.
    Sure, athletic kids would have a go at everything, but there were plenty of fun novelty events for non-jocks.

    They still have the option to participate or sit on the sidelines. The only difference is that non-participants are encouraged to support and show their appreciation to the competitors by using jazz hands.

  12. Infidel Tiger

    It’s great that NSW is legalising the murder of females.

    It’s just a shame they are babies and not the evil female politicians.

  13. Some History

    Greta Loonberg, representing Gang Green, will head a new, eco-friendly ship tour business.

    https://imgur.com/75QZ4w6

  14. Some History

    Customers will have the privilege of manning personing the oars.

    Ship Tour Itinerary.

    Days 1-4: Rowing. 5 hours per day sleep.
    Day 5: Stop over for one meal.
    Days 6-8: Rowing. 5 hours per day sleep.
    Day 9: Stop over for one meal. Free physiotherapy session.
    Days 10-16: Rowing. 5 hours per day sleep.
    Day 17: Tour ends. Free hospital emergency-room treatment.

    That’s a winner right there.

  15. jo

    Some History
    #3127237, posted on August 9, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    Greta Loonberg, representing Gang Green, will head a new, eco-friendly ship tour business.

    https://imgur.com/75QZ4w6

    Will work out well so to speak. Free activity all day and night.

  16. Infidel Tiger

    Andrew Clark

    Verified account

    @AndrewHClark
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    Joe Biden slip-up in Iowa tonight.

    “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”

    Yikes…have fun mitigating that one.

    https://twitter.com/AndrewHClark/status/1159630998667239425

    Bwahahaha!

  17. Some History

    TV advert for Julie Bishop appearing on Andrew Denton this week. On this occasion, Julie has chosen not to exercise her right to bare arms.

  18. jo

    Ms Triggs told The Australian she was thrilled to have accepted the senior role, which will see her move to the Swiss capital, Geneva, in late September.

    Swiss capital is Bern.

  19. Fisky

    LOL. No doubt –

    reason
    @reason

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she has “a lot of common ground with many libertarian viewpoints.”

  20. dover_beach

    How did it ever come about that the Nationals as a block helped the ALP pass a law that renders the child in utero a non-person unfit to receive the protection of the law?
    Quite unbelievable.

  21. Mother Lode

    Someone should explain to AOC that money doesn’t just grow on trees. While you’re at it, tell her unicorns and magic aren’t real either.

    AOC will consider that wealth is created by money changing hands (from one person to the other), rather than by the goods or services which flow in the opposite direction.

    Normally these are called ‘stimulus’ bills.

    AOC will be thinking of one gigantic, never ending, stimulus bill.

  22. Infidel Tiger

    How did it ever come about that the Nationals as a block helped the ALP pass a law that renders the child in utero a non-person unfit to receive the protection of the law?
    Quite unbelievable.

    Nationals are now full of far left Gaia and Moloch worshipping nutters.

  23. Infidel Tiger

    reason
    @reason

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she has “a lot of common ground with many libertarian viewpoints.”

    Open borders, destruction of the nation state, destruction of the family, worship of corporations over the individual…

    She could run on a libertarian ticket and be indistinguishable from the usual perverted stoners they usually endorse..

  24. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Sure Fisk, each day I think of how we should annihilate global GDP with green left and public infrastructure boondoggles we don’t need (you know, like blowing one quadrillion US dollars).

    I’m also really sure that when AOC wakes up each day, she is dreaming of a future husband who is a proud member of the NRA; “molon labe”.

  25. Leigh Lowe

    Mater

    #3127176, posted on August 9, 2019 at 10:59 am

    He’s more out your way, LL, but he is omnipresent when it comes to this stuff.

    Ha, ha, yeah I know.
    I was just calling him “your mate” as a bit of highly transparent trolling.

  26. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    She could run on a libertarian ticket and be indistinguishable from the usual perverted stoners they usually endorse..

    That’s true. Their usual candidates just make US liberts. vote for the GOP.

  27. Beachcomber

    NSW members of parliament cheering and dancing as they rush through legislation for open slather abortion. The ABC wymynses newsreaders and reporterettes are moist with excitement about the prospect of aborting more babies. They can barely contain their joy. The rest of the country just sleep-walks into this degeneracy.

  28. Some History

    Creepy Joe Biden makes Steinfield’s “close-talker” seem normal.

    Social awareness – close talker.wmv

  29. thefrollickingmole

    The Gruinaid posts a smear, as usual.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/09/when-tony-abbott-and-peta-credlin-share-billing-with-radical-far-right-figures-we-should-be-concerned

    Any Australian activist or leader who appears on the same stage as Kassam has clearly not reflected on the contribution that Isssamophobic political commentary may have made to an Australian allegedly murdering 50 Muslims in Christchurch not five months ago.

    So we are back to “Because you complained in a legal acceptable way about something you are responsible for a fanatic idiot” trope again.

    Matt Gaetz, who is listed on the website but mysteriously absent from the daily schedule, suggested ahead of last year’s midterm elections that a so-called “caravan” of migrants traveling through Mexico for the US border had been funded by George Soros.

    Gaetz’s tweet came just before the Tree of Life synagogue shooting — some commentators suggested that Gaetz and others who spread such theories contributed to the atmosphere in which the murders took place.

    Because a Soros funded group was involved in some of the logistics & organising, so 100% correct claim.
    ….
    Latham’s bad ideas are legion. To pick some at random: he has proposed banning transgender identification, has called patriarchy a “fake theory”, has asserted without evidence an epidemic of “anti-white racism”, and infamously accused a Msslim journalist of “aiding and abetting terrorism”.

    One Nation, the party he leads in the NSW parliament, has policies including a Trumpian travel ban, the effective end of refugee settlement for those who arrive in boats, and a whole raft of policies singling out Msslims.

    And the writers evidence opposing Lathams claims are “muh feelz” and wankery.
    ….
    Issamophobia, antisssitic conspiracy theories and anti-immigrant xenophobia are not only reprehensible in their own right, but they have factored into recent mass shootings in the United States and New Zealand, and they are tearing apart democracies around the world.

    Does this bother the Liberals and media figures who have chosen to participate? It should certainly trouble their colleagues, and the rest of us.

    And back to the ever reliable “moderates are responsible for the whack jobs” especially when they get to prune and define what bits of the nutbags manifestos or facechook histories get highlighted or not.

    Also
    Jason Wilson is a Guardian Australia columnist

    It’s Not Your Imagination: The Journalists Writing About Antifa Are Often Their Cheerleaders
    A more prominent example is Jason Wilson, a Portland-based writer for The Guardian. One of his recent articles focused on a U.S. regional intelligence report whose authors concluded that Antifa and the far right share responsibility for street violence. “Experts say the report mischaracterizes the dynamics of the street violence,” Wilson complained.

    One of Wilson’s main “experts” in the piece, it turned out, was none other than Antifa handbook author Mark Bray, who, predictably, denounced the report’s contents as “ludicrous.” In fact, Bray makes regular appearances in Wilson’s articles. So does fellow Portland resident and eco-extremist Alexander Reid Ross, who regularly writes for Antifa publications such as the It’s Going Down anarchist news site. (Ross also contributed to a 30-year-anniversary edition publication for Earth First!, an extremist environmentalist collective that advocates what activists euphemistically call “direct action.”)

    In another column for The Guardian, this one about the 2018 “Occupy ICE” protest in Portland, Wilson quoted “local activist” Luis Marquez to the effect that “I think this occupation is a beautiful thing, a wonderful thing. Every single person here is a hero.” Marquez is in fact a prominent Antifa leader in Portland, and has been arrested on numerous occasions due to his militant behavior—including alleged theft and assault.

    Scum and villainy etc etc…

  30. Leigh Lowe

    Reports that a chunk of Frankston pier has broken off and floated away.
    Guys.
    It’s Frankston.
    It will have been knicked by five blokes in skinny jeans and moccasins driving an unregistered Commodore with four different coloured doors.
    And what is this “floated away”?
    People who live outside the bay build two types of piers … stone ones and temporary ones.
    Might send them a copy of “Three Little Pigs”.

  31. Fisky

    Open borders, gay marriage, freedom of the big tech giants. That’s all on the libertarian-socialist unity ticket.

  32. Mother Lode

    It’s great that NSW is legalising the murder of females.

    What I loved was when they were talking about this possibility they were discussing it in terms of parents who want daughters but were faced with the prospect of a son. I suppose if you put it that way the feminazis will have no problem with it, and all the beta males will happily consign innumerable boys to the surgical vacuum cleaner and incinerator in return for a pat on the head.

    What strikes me as odd – and it may well just be me – is that in the example the parents think of the foetus/embryo as ‘daughter’ or ‘son’ and can still want it killed. You would think that ‘son/daughter that would come into being’ would humanise the ‘clump of cells’.

    But I suspect they are just clumps of cells themselves, even if they imagine they themselves are something more.

  33. Some History

    Kramer meets the close-talker

  34. calli

    The rest of the country just sleep-walks into this degeneracy.

    It’s a nightmare and there seems to be no escape.

  35. thefrollickingmole

    The InSincterator smites down another long comment, again.

    The Gruinaid posts a smear, as usual.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/09/when-tony-abbott-and-peta-credlin-share-billing-with-radical-far-right-figures-we-should-be-concerned

    Any Australian activist or leader who appears on the same stage as Kassam has clearly not reflected on the contribution that Isssamophobic political commentary may have made to an Australian allegedly murdering 50 Msslims in Christchurch not five months ago.

    So we are back to “Because you complained in a legal acceptable way about something you are responsible for a fanatic idiot” trope again.

    Matt Gaetz, who is listed on the website but mysteriously absent from the daily schedule, suggested ahead of last year’s midterm elections that a so-called “caravan” of migrants traveling through Mexico for the US border had been funded by George Soros.

    Gaetz’s tweet came just before the Tree of Life synagogue shooting — some commentators suggested that Gaetz and others who spread such theories contributed to the atmosphere in which the murders took place.

    Because a Soros funded group was involved in some of the logistics & organizing, so 100% correct claim.
    ….
    Latham’s bad ideas are legion. To pick some at random: he has proposed banning transgender identification, has called patriarchy a “fake theory”, has asserted without evidence an epidemic of “anti-white racism”, and infamously accused a Msslim journalist of “aiding and abetting terrorism”.

    One Nation, the party he leads in the NSW parliament, has policies including a Trumpian travel ban, the effective end of refugee settlement for those who arrive in boats, and a whole raft of policies singling out Msslims.

    And the writers evidence opposing Lathams claims are “muh feelz” and wankery.
    ….
    Issamophobia, antisssitic conspiracy theories and anti-immigrant xenophobia are not only reprehensible in their own right, but they have factored into recent mass shootings in the United States and New Zealand, and they are tearing apart democracies around the world.

    Does this bother the Liberals and media figures who have chosen to participate? It should certainly trouble their colleagues, and the rest of us.

    And back to the ever reliable “moderates are responsible for the whack jobs” especially when they get to prune and define what bits of the nutbags manifestos or facechook histories get highlighted or not.

    Also
    Jason Wilson is a Guardian Australia columnist

    It’s Not Your Imagination: The Journalists Writing About Antifa Are Often Their Cheerleaders
    A more prominent example is Jason Wilson, a Portland-based writer for The Guardian. One of his recent articles focused on a U.S. regional intelligence report whose authors concluded that Antifa and the far right share responsibility for street violence. “Experts say the report mischaracterizes the dynamics of the street violence,” Wilson complained.

    One of Wilson’s main “experts” in the piece, it turned out, was none other than Antifa handbook author Mark Bray, who, predictably, denounced the report’s contents as “ludicrous.” In fact, Bray makes regular appearances in Wilson’s articles. So does fellow Portland resident and eco-extremist Alexander Reid Ross, who regularly writes for Antifa publications such as the It’s Going Down anarchist news site. (Ross also contributed to a 30-year-anniversary edition publication for Earth First!, an extremist environmentalist collective that advocates what activists euphemistically call “direct action.”)

    In another column for The Guardian, this one about the 2018 “Occupy ICE” protest in Portland, Wilson quoted “local activist” Luis Marquez to the effect that “I think this occupation is a beautiful thing, a wonderful thing. Every single person here is a hero.” Marquez is in fact a prominent Antifa leader in Portland, and has been arrested on numerous occasions due to his militant behavior—including alleged theft and assault.

    Scum and villainy etc etc…

  36. calli

    The baby in utero has more dignity than our NSW parliamentarians.

  37. Mother Lode

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says she has “a lot of common ground with many libertarian viewpoints.

    Well, she doesn’t care about property rights, she thinks freedom should be regulated by government, and while Libertarians might also believe in open borders they also believe that you don’t get free handouts – attracts a rather different demographic than she has in mind.

    Yeah, she’s a Libertarian icon.

  38. Mater

    I was just calling him “your mate” as a bit of highly transparent trolling.

    I’d never have picked that! 😉

    In all seriousness with regards to my ‘mate’, it’s a third certainty of life. If it reeks, he’s not far away.

  39. egg_

    Open borders

    What’s the ‘elf cost of aging imported third world sh1tholers?
    Seems a lot of Injuns suffer heart and circulatory problems by their 60s, often not making 70, but likely costing Joe Public a packet in the interim.
    Ditto some SEA mates complaining of being hobbly in their 50s FFS – is there a Welfare/DSP scam they’re onto?

  40. egg_

    TV advert for Julie Bishop appearing on Andrew Denton this week. On this occasion, Julie has chosen not to exercise her right to bare arms.

    Are they street walking?

  41. Percy Popinjay

    Mikey Moore confronts a purveyor of renewabaubles.

  42. Percy Popinjay

    How can we have become so fucking stupid?

    Yes, it’s a mystery:
    Exhibit A
    Exhibit B
    Exhibit C

    Trigger Warning: Monstrous Imbeciles

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    She wanted vengeance’: Woman, 20, who falsely accused a Good Samaritan, 36, of sexual assault – costing him his marriage – is jailed for five months

    Kenan Basic stopped to help a 19-year-old woman with her car at service station
    Woman had a broken-down car and Mr Basic spent two hours helping her fix it
    They hugged and he followed her a short distance to make sure she was alright
    Days later the woman claimed Mr Basic stalked her and indecently assaulted her
    Mr Basic spent two weeks in prison, lost his job and is going through a divorce
    All charges were dropped against him after Caitlyn Gray admitted to lying

    Daily Mail

  44. Lilliana

    Yes, it’s a mystery:
    Exhibit A
    Exhibit B
    Exhibit C
    Trigger Warning: Monstrous Imbeciles

    so true – and they are just the tip of the iceberg.

  45. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3127285, posted on August 9, 2019 at 1:39 pm

    She wanted vengeance’: Woman, 20, who falsely accused a Good Samaritan, 36, of sexual assault – costing him his marriage – is jailed for five months

    Kenan Basic stopped to help a 19-year-old woman with her car at service station
    Woman had a broken-down car and Mr Basic spent two hours helping her fix it
    They hugged and he followed her a short distance to make sure she was alright
    Days later the woman claimed Mr Basic stalked her and indecently assaulted her
    Mr Basic spent two weeks in prison, lost his job and is going through a divorce
    All charges were dropped against him after Caitlyn Gray admitted to lying

    Should have been gaoled for much longer.

    Now, where is his egregious compensatory payout?

    It ought to be yuge, yuuuge, I say.

  46. notafan

    Frank.

    Is there a compo regime for those falsely accused?

    I don’t think so.

    The teacher in the spit case couldn’t even get costs.

    The false complainant won’t even get charged.

  47. Percy Popinjay

    Is there a compo regime for those falsely accused?

    Indeed there is, it’s the opportunity to continue existing on this wondrous planet, waiting haplessly to be clobbered by the next instance of anarcho-tyranny.

    Comrades.

  48. notafan

    And spent a few hours in gaol.

    I wonder if she was motivated by a compensation scheme?

    She has not offered any reason for her lies

  49. None

    So they jail the guy and seek evidence later? And then when the bitch admits she lied she gets put on bail until she gets sentenced? We don’t have a justice system.

  50. egg_

    old bloke
    #3126531, posted on August 8, 2019 at 4:36 pm
    Regarding Our Man In Havana’s daily epistles, he is playing us as fools.

    Whereas some readers here wait anxiously to hear whether Maria or that other woman gets a root, that fiendishly clever Dr. BG is hiding the identity of the true subject of his affections. Maria is just an invention of his duplicitous imaginings, a ruse, a clever deception. Dr. BG sits in smoke filled room, drinking cheap Cuban rum, and laughing at us.

    Who then is the true subject of Dr. BG’s affections?

    Grigs has him captive, with sewing machine at the ready?

  51. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Did anyone else see this?

    https://tinyurl.com/y5pegz38

    Lawyer of British Teen in Cyprus False Gang-rave Case Quits

    Court approves lawyer’s request over ‘serious disagreement’ with client, who admitted to falsely accusing 12 Israelis of rave

    Yeah, she was in a gang-bang and did not want the reputation that goes along with it. She slut-shamed herself.

  52. None

    You know our fucken idiotic judges had no problems being totally legalistic in their interpretation of the letter of the law when it suits them and for them to now tell us they’re taking 2 1/2 months to work out whether Pell was correctly arraigned given he was not present in person or by videolink is really a bit rich. The fact that these f****** are taking so long to make a decision on a matter which fails the pub test time and time again makes me fear for Pell and once again we will be condemning an innocent man to death. And should that happen I pray that God unleashes every ounce of his wrath and judgement on this God-hating truth-hating unjust death-loving cowardly nation. 😎

  53. None

    Anita O’Day. As high is a kite in that clip.

  54. Rockdoctor

    On the bint who made the false accusation. Apparently she intends to appeal. Google her mouthpiece, chambers in Sydney CDB wouldn’t be cheap. Be interesting to see the money trail, probono possibly or someone/organisation with deep pockets?

    Good thing he is going for the jugular both her & Liverpool’s keystone cops…

  55. cohenite

    Most people who are scammed can’t admit it even to themselves. I suppose we should give Moore some credit for confronting the unpleasant truth. Pity it took him so long.

    Stuff the fat bastard; apparently he handed in his gym membership (sic) when he found out the gym chain supported Trump. What a fat bastard; good gym customer though, the kind every gym wants: pays and never turns up.

  56. Mother Lode

    Before I forget:

    Thanks for your comments about Ms Banerji and the conditions of her employment.

    I suppose there is a justification under the clauses of ‘always’ conduct, and that makes sense to me in terms of how she speaks of the department or its work, or indeed conducts herself in general, in a way that reflects positively on the department. If people know her as an employee then slagging it off would be undoing the image the department has sought to create. If she goes on a work function, gets hammered, propositions a goat, and later dry humps a lamp post, then she has certainly made the department look bad.

    But these all come back to the impact on the department. And it seems to me that if she is just one anonymous ass braying in the Twatter barn, unheeded and unheeding, then the impact on the department is negligible.

    What about confiding to friends or family? That would cause more damage to the department since they would know that she has first hand experience.

    As to whether she she should leave her job because she hated the department (and I do not believe this was even an issue) – well that is up to her. That is the roiling tempest inside her own skull. If she did her job and her attitude did not manifest itself sufficiently to noticeably impact her work or the work of others I would hesitate to argue that she should be booted – that is thoughtcrime.

    Anyway, I don’t know the finer details of the judgement, or the precise arguments made to the court. And maybe the PTSD had something to do with her bottled up rage being discovered. Whatevs.

  57. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Being in love with someone on infatuation, and having them talk their way into your pants, is sexual assault now.

    Yep, “cajoling” and flattery is now “coercion”.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49945/she-verbally-consented-sex-school-determined-he-ashe-schow

    John Doe, as he is referred to in court documents reviewed by The Daily Wire, was accused of sexually assaulting a student referred to as Jane Roe at the end of January 2018. The two had met the previous spring since they were both part of the Schreyer’s Honors College. On January 26, 2018, the two met up again in a computer lab and started talking. They then started flirting and Jane put her number into John’s phone, according to the lawsuit, and texted herself, “I LOVE YOU.” The two continued to flirt for several days, and Jane even spent time in John’s dorm room on his bed. She told him she didn’t want to be “friends with benefits.”

    Shaha did not vacate the hearing panel’s finding since it didn’t meet the definition of coercion. Instead, he set up a new hearing. Prior to the second hearing, John was provided with a copy of the university’s new definition of consent, which included the word “cajoling” as part of the definition of coercion. The definition was not, at the time, published anywhere public by the school, but was used against him in the new hearing.

    There should be a song like this, concentrating now on awesomeness, but how everything is r.a.p.e now.

  58. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The definition was not, at the time, published anywhere public by the school, but was used against him in the new hearing.

    Good lord that is grounds for a deadset obvious appeal on the grounds of due process/procedural fairness.

  59. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Rockdoctor
    #3127316, posted on August 9, 2019 at 2:37 pm

    On the bint who made the false accusation. Apparently she intends to appeal.

    On what grounds? Women having more rights than men?!

    Google her mouthpiece, chambers in Sydney CDB wouldn’t be cheap. Be interesting to see the money trail, probono possibly or someone/organisation with deep pockets?

    Bring back champerty & maintenance and barratry.

    Make the Legal System Great Again! (MLSGA!)

  60. max

    The rest of the country just sleep-walks into this degeneracy.

    There is no doubt that we will pay a price.

  61. JC

    Australia is a shithole of a country. A friend gave me a snazzy vape contraption that is really nice looking and also very advanced. It’s called a Magnum Snap.

    I went to a vape shop the other day to buy some e-liquid and asked if they carried them. The seller told me they are not allowed to sell any vape contraption that looks remotely like a cigarette. This is how fucked up we’ve become. You can import nicotine liquid into Australia for personal consumption only, but the vape shop attendant is not allowed to inject the nicotine into the juice. You have to do that yourself. Nicotine lquid is not risk free because if you get some on your skin you can develop poisoning just from the skin surface.

    There’s no place on earth that does virtue signaling better than this shithole.

    Meanwhile there are airport stores over Europe selling one brand vapers and liquids with nicotine.

  62. Mother Lode

    So they jail the guy and seek evidence later? And then when the bitch admits she lied she gets put on bail until she gets sentenced?

    Too true. What evidence could she have had of something that didn’t happen. I know sometimes people are found guilty but I suspect it comes down to errors in forensic evidence, corroborating witnesses who are mistaken etc. Was there any of this?

    Or was it just #BelieveAllWomen plus #AllMenAreRapists?

  63. notafan

    But these all come back to the impact on the department. And it seems to me that if she is just one anonymous ass braying in the Twatter barn, unheeded and unheeding, then the impact on the department is negligible.

    Didn’t the court say something about her anonymity being inevitably coming to light?

    It wasn’t just general braying but sufficiently detailed for her supervisor to work out it was her.

    and it certainly wasn’t unheeded as the same supervisor responded to the tweets so the department must have considered them damaging, to some degree.

  64. JC

    And there are people here actually whining and complaining about libertarians…. as most of our personal and financial freedoms are trampled. Way to go fellas.

  65. Mother Lode

    In moderation?

    Well I will change a letter so exactly the same message is sent.

    So they jail the guy and seek evidence later? And then when the bitch admits she lied she gets put on bail until she gets sentenced?

    Too true. What evidence could she have had of something that didn’t happen. I know sometimes people are found guilty but I suspect it comes down to errors in forensic evidence, corroborating witnesses who are mistaken etc. Was there any of this?

    Or was it just #BelieveAllWomen plus #AllMenArePapists?

  66. JC

    Of course we should ban it. We should ban everything.

    A Greens push to curb helicopter joy flights over key parts of Melbourne could dampen the city’s tourism industry, leading aviation figures have warned.

    Greens MP Adam Bandt is seeking relief for residents in key inner suburbs, including the well-heeled East Melbourne, amid claims of low-flying aircraft breaching community peace.

    Mr Bandt, the member for the federal seat of Melbourne, said yesterday if tourism operators continued to fly and hover over people’s homes, he would renew his push to have the aviation sector­ more heavily regulated.
    Read Next

    Abbott’s daughter off to Beijing
    Agencies

    In the past, he has tried to legislate to prohibit helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft from flying at less than 2000m above sea level over residential areas.

    Further, he has sought regu­lations to enforce a flight and air space management plan within 5km of central Melbourne, with the ban on flyovers below 2000m.

    The policy could have impli­cations for the plans to trial flying taxis, although Uber is selling the vision as involving quiet, electric-powered vehicles.

  67. notafan

    The case is linked to one of the government’s most prolific official tweeters, Immigration Department spokesman Sandi Logan, who heads the communications team in which Ms Banerji worked.

    Ms Banerji had accused Mr Logan of bullying her, and argued the department’s decision to discipline her over her Twitter comments was a retaliation against her complaint.

    It seems that Ms Banerji may have made a habit of responding to official tweets by her supervisor, who was an Immi Dept spokesman

    not hard to miss, in that case

    A reminder too that it was a Labor government that was getting served.

    Public servant loses fight over Twitter attack on government, from 2013

  68. Mother Lode

    Didn’t the court say something about her anonymity being inevitably coming to light?

    Don’t know if the courts really are prescient enough to determine that. I have no doubt they believe they do. But having judgments based on the prescience of judges is a pretty poor look out for the rest of us.

    If one judge dissents I wonder if they call it a Minority Report?

    As for her supervisor realising she was the one being abused (however anonymously) then that is definitely a basis for action, partly because it would sour the working relationship (which would make it the department’s concern), and if the supervisor could demonstrate that there was enough detail for a reasonably intelligent person in the department or elsewhere to work out it is the supervisor being abused then I expect there is a civil case.

  69. JC

    She’s back!

    The former head of the Australian Human Rights Commission, Gillian Triggs, has been appointed Assistant High Commissioner for Protection at the United Nations.

    Ms Triggs told The Australian she was thrilled to have accepted the senior role, which will see her move to the Swiss city of Geneva, in late September.

    “I am of course very honoured to be offered the position; it’s rather unexpected I must say,” Ms Triggs said. “It’s a very recent development but I’m in some ways excited, but it’s a huge job with massive implications.
    Read Next

    “There are 71 million displaced people and refugees around the world and we have some very significant protection obligations in our region.”

  70. zyconoclast

    Clown world

    Census Bureau Seeks to Hire Non-U.S. Citizens Ahead of 2020
    Special exemptions to federal hiring laws allow the agency to temporarily employ noncitizens as officials attempt to obtain an accurate count of people living in immigrant communities.

  71. cohenite

    I don’t know why people are still defending that bitch from the public service who was fired.

  72. notafan

    Frank I would hardly call the behaviour described as ‘cajoling’ either.

    She seems a willing participant who was ticked because the relationship didn’t develop into boyfriend girlfriend

  73. Top Ender

    “I am of course very honoured to be offered the position; it’s rather unexpected I must say,” Ms Triggs said. “It’s a very recent development but I’m in some ways excited, but it’s a huge job with massive implications.

    Fixing it for you:

    “I am of course very honoured to be offered the position; it’s not unexpected I must say,” Ms Triggs said. “It’s a very solicited development but I’m in some ways excited, but it’s a huge ego-job with massive pay.

    There you go.

  74. zyconoclast

    Gay police officer who demanded $800,000 and claimed she was discriminated against because she was not allowed to work in the same city as her girlfriend LOSES her case

    While throwing out the damages claim, Justice Mortimer said the force could have been more supportive of the women’s desire to be transferred together.

  75. zyconoclast

    Schools are being urged to make competitive events such as running and jumps voluntary at their sports carnivals because of the mental anguish and humiliation it can cause students

    At John XXIII College in Perth, sports days are not just for serious athletes.
    The school strived to get all students excited about carnival days by making them a spectacle, where there was something for everyone.

    At the start of its senior athletics carnival, Year 12 students entered the stadium in their house groups, or factions, and put on a special performance, giving students with more theatrical or musical talents a moment to shine.

    Throughout the day, students were judged on their stand decorations, cheering, war cries and participation in novelty events, with points determining which house group won the coveted “Spirit Award”.

  76. zyconoclast

    Tallawarra power station expansion hits turbulence in setback for NSW energy security

    A plan to shore up New South Wales’s energy supply has struck turbulence amid concerns about aircraft safety.

    But the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) objects to the plan on the grounds the resultant gas plume presents a risk to aircraft flying in and out of the Illawarra Regional Airport at Albion Park.

    CASA spokesman Peter Gibson said EnergyAustralia’s offer of declaring a flight danger area above the plant did not satisfy the concerns around turbulence and visibility.

    “After looking at it carefully, our determination was that putting a danger area around the gas plume would certainly keep aircraft out of the area,” Mr Gibson said.

  77. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    She seems a willing participant who was ticked because the relationship didn’t develop into boyfriend girlfriend

    Yep

    Looking at, not hitting on, hitting on, not looking at, not wanting a relationship and wanting a relationship; these are all sexual assault perpetrated by men against women.

  78. Geriatric Mayfly

    I wasn’t a ‘chosen child’ but quite often when I whinged and whined about unfairness I was told, “You are lucky to be alive.” In a few years this will be hate speech in NSW, as it implies that all the dead ones have been disadvantaged.

  79. calli

    “I am of course very honoured entitled to be offered the position; it’s not unexpected I must say,” Ms Triggs said. “It’s a very solicited development but I’m in some ways excited, but it’s a huge ego-job with massive pay.

    And nothing less than I deserve.”

  80. I agree with others here that AU is totally fscked,
    Little or no chance of fixing it.

    Talk about something else, please.
    It’s depressing me.

  81. calli

    By the way, can someone please turn off the fan?

    How much electrickery is it generating? There must be an up side to my ruined garden.

  82. calli

    Hehe. The Beloved is out playing 18 holes in the gale.

    He will come back looking like he’s stuck his putter in the power socket.

  83. Rafiki redux

    Mother Lode – dissenting judges are spoken if as ‘in the minority’. In theory their reasoning cannot be taken into account in formulating the reasons for the court’s decision, but it is not as simple as this. On an appeal, that court might adopt the reasoning of a minority judge.
    .

  84. JC

    Rafki, what year did you finish school?

  85. Seco

    Anyone seen PVO’s latest article in The Oz about abortion law in NSW?

    I tried commenting on it but of course got denied. The Australian isn’t fit for the budgie cage.

  86. Mother Lode

    They whinge about obesity epidemics and the let the kids out of physical activity if they find not winning to stressful.

    And then they try to solve the problem not by encouraging activity, but by banning soft drinks and chips.

    Way to get to the core of the problem.

  87. I saw the news item where the NSW State Nationals supported the new abortion laws. But I missed the announcement that Barnaby Joyce had resigned from the Nationals in protest, and would henceforth sit in Federal Parliament as an Independent.

    Anybody got a link?

  88. Old School Conservative

    I tried commenting on it but of course got denied. The Australian isn’t fit for the budgie cage.

    Ditto.
    All I did was to repeat PvO’s own words, “abortion is murder”.

  89. Old School Conservative

    Peter, your name appears as a hyperlink which can’t be reached through either my Safari nor Google chrome browsers.
    Am I missing something?

  90. Mother Lode

    Mother Lode – dissenting judges are spoken if as ‘in the minority’

    I was making a reference to that movie where people are arrested for what these precognitive mutants foresaw happening.

    Just my little joke.

  91. cohenite

    Man assaults boy; blames Trump.

    Trump is a bogeyman for the ages. Literally everything bad which happens and also which doesn’t happen is his fault.

  92. Am I missing something?

    Stuffed if I know, OSC. I don’t even know why it is showing as a link.
    It doesn’t open anywhere for me either.
    I changed laptops and it appears to be yet another gremlin in the system.

  93. calli

    You have a character in the “website” box, Peter. Delete it.

  94. Literally everything bad which happens and also which doesn’t happen is his fault.

    I wonder if Tony Abbott 666 is breathing a sigh of relief.

  95. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    test

  96. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thanks Calli.

    So, not just a pretty face then.

  97. calli

    I just had my windscreen repaired. It had mysteriously developed a crack when I was away.

    Trump.

    Has to be.

  98. Old School Conservative

    PvO, your strong support of this Bill means you also support what The Spectator calls “Daughter slaughter”.

    Also rejected by the moderators at The Australian.
    Dammed if I can see why.

  99. calli

    I have a face only a mother could love.

    I take after Dad.

  100. Percy Popinjay

    We should ban everything.

    Never fear, JC, the gliberal pardee is busy (at the urging of the greenfilth) banning every possible human activity that might result in some fleeting sensory pleasure or economic benefit. A la Pol Dot’s ditty above “everything is tape” the gliberals can eventually release an equally catchy ditty entitled “everything is banned”.

    Comrades.

  101. Percy Popinjay

    I just had my windscreen repaired. It had mysteriously developed a crack when I was away.

    Trump.

    Has to be.

    calli, it was very likely this equally monstrous individual, who now has plenty of time on his hands.

    ⊂(º⊥º)⊃

  102. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I have a face only a mother could love.

    I find that hard to believe, Calli.
    How many kids did you say you had?

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ben Roberts-Smith defamation trial set down for June 2020
    Georgina Mitchell
    By Georgina Mitchell
    August 9, 2019 — 1.58pm

    Defamation proceedings brought by decorated soldier Ben Roberts-Smith will be heard in a six-week trial starting in June next year, with a “very large number of witnesses” expected to give evidence.

    Mr Roberts-Smith, a Victoria Cross recipient, is suing The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times in the Federal Court over a series of articles published in 2018 which he says are defamatory because they portray him as someone who “broke the moral and legal rules of military engagement” and committed murder.

    He says the articles also wrongly portray him as a “hypocrite” who “abused a woman”, by detailing allegations that he punched a woman with whom he was having an affair, and carry the defamatory imputation that he disgraced his country and the Australian Army through his conduct overseas.

    The 40-year-old former SAS soldier, who was deployed to Afghanistan six times between 2006 and 2012, is seeking to have the articles taken down from the internet and for the newspapers to be permanently restrained from repeating the claims in the stories.

    Sydney Moaning Hemorrhoid.

  104. Mother Lode

    Also rejected by the moderators at The Australian.
    Dammed if I can see why.

    They were already scraping the bottom of the barrel (enough to get a few splinters in the act) bringing him in. If they publicly humiliate him it will be hard to find something to replace him which can sit up in a chair while it is snivelling.

    He is a creature they can count on to pump out a steady stream of column inches, speaking with unassailable (and unjustifiable) conviction on any topic. Well formed people pause and say “Actually, I don’t know.” from time to time.

  105. Percy Popinjay

    Defamation proceedings brought by decorated soldier Ben Roberts-Smith will be heard in a six-week trial starting in June next year

    … The 40-year-old former SAS soldier, who was deployed to Afghanistan six times between 2006 and 2012, is seeking to have the articles taken down from the internet and for the newspapers to be permanently restrained from repeating the claims in the stories.

    Relax, BRS, the defamatory bollocks will only remain on the interwebs for the next twelve months or so.

  106. Percy Popinjay

    While the Streisand Effect works its magick.

  107. Geriatric Mayfly

    Mr Roberts-Smith, a Victoria Cross recipient, is suing The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times

    Right down to the stamps and the petty cash tin, I hope he cleans them out.

  108. Spider

    There is more to this case involving the public servant fired for criticising the Government’s policies which is hinted at by

    “I wrote a pretty strong remark to my manager which started off the whole thing, but was my remark worse than trafficking people to Nauru and Manus Island and leaving them to rot? It’s that modern phenomenon where you criticise something and you get punished for criticising it rather than the person committing the crime.”

    former-public-servant-sacked-over-tweets-warns-of-fascistic-encroachment-on-free-speech

  109. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Well Percy, I think the OH&S, environmental and “corporate responsabilidee” regulators want to break out the Kraggle.

    Utter buffoons who can’t have a good time and don’t understand how wealth is created Real NPCs.

  110. Josh

    Chance of snow for the AFL game in Canberra tonight.

    ACT Bureau tweets

    From 7pm – 10pm, the temp drops 4°C to 1°C with a ‘feels like’ temp of -6°C to -7°C!

    https://twitter.com/BOM_ACT/status/1159698916696350720

  111. notafan

    “The court has come out of it looking very intransigent and unsympathetic. I think the decision has caused damage to the courts because of the way they have been so determined to knock it back without any nuance.”

    The lady has a very high opinion of her own opinion.

  112. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Full list. Procter & Gamble brands.

    DON’T BUY THEM!

    The CPA are really woke.

    Strangely, so are the American Physical Society…

    Anyway, here is a list of P&G products & brands:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Procter_%26_Gamble_brands

    Dishwashing

    Dawn dishwashing liquid
    Joy dishwashing liquid
    Gain dishwashing liquid
    Ivory dishwashing liquid

    Menstrual hygiene

    Always menstrual hygiene products
    Tampax tampons
    Whisper menstrual hygiene products

    Haircare

    Ascend hair care products
    Aussie haircare (shampoos/conditioners/styling aids)
    Braun hair care and grooming products
    Frederic Fekkai hair care products sold
    Head & Shoulders shampoo
    Nicky Clarke hair products
    Pantene hair care products (purchased from Hoffmann-La Roche in 1985)
    Vidal Sassoon haircare products (purchased in 1984 from Vidal Sassoon)

    Healthcare products

    Align probiotics
    Crest toothpaste
    Femibion (acquired from Merck Group)
    Fixodent denture adhesive
    Iliac/Nasivin (acquired from Merck Group)
    Scope mouthwash
    Metamucil laxative/fiber supplement (acquired G. D. Searle & Company in 1985)
    Neurobion (acquired from Merck Group)
    New Chapter dietary supplements[3]
    Pepto-Bismol over-the-counter drug for minor digestive system upset (acquired as part of Norwich Eaton Pharmaceuticals in 1982)
    Prilosec OTC (licensed from AstraZeneca)
    Sangobion (acquired from Merck Group)
    Seven Seas (acquired from Merck Group)
    Vicks cough and cold products
    Swisse

    Household

    Ace stain remover liquid
    Bounce fabric-softener sheet for dryers.[4]
    Cascade dishwasher detergent
    Fairy (known as Dreft in the Netherlands) dishwashing liquid, toilet soap, household soap, laundry detergent and dishwasher detergent
    Febreze odor control
    Flash cleaning product
    Jar dishwashing liquid and dishwasher detergent
    Joy dishwashing liquid
    Mr. Clean household cleaners
    Puffs tissues
    Luvs disposable diapers
    Safeguard antibacterial soap brand[5] marketed by Procter & Gamble, introduced circa 1965. Safeguard soap is marketed under the brand name Escudo in Mexico.[6]
    Tide detergents
    Swiffer cleaning products

    Laundry detergents

    Ariel laundry detergent
    Bold laundry detergent
    Bonux laundry detergent
    Cheer laundry detergent
    Daz laundry detergent
    Downy fabric softener
    Era laundry detergent
    Dreft laundry detergent
    Gain laundry detergent
    Ola laundry soap
    PMC laundry soap
    Tide laundry detergent
    Lenor laundry detergent

    Skin care

    Fresco bar soap
    Ivory bar soap
    Olay skin care products (acquired in 1985 as part of Richardson-Vicks Inc.)
    Old Spice aftershave, skin care and hair care products (acquired
    Secret antiperspirants and deodorants

  113. Mark from Melbourne

    I was one of those “non-athletic” students. Hated sport carnivals – was and am totally useless at every sport but somehow I survived and exercise regulatory.

    I was perhaps the least athletic bloke at Burke Hall.

    My abiding memory of said school was winning a 400m event (quite probably against a snail, three kids with one leg and a centipede) in Form Two. I was over the moon. Having been forced to run. Dad even gave me fifty bucks! I think from sheer surprise.

    These dickheads are, well, dickheads.

  114. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    USSR 1980s, Comrade Gorby ushers in some freedoms and the Ivans buy synths.

  115. Mother Lode

    When I was a kid were normally pretty active. We knew we weren’t the fastest runners, the highest or longest jumpers. Playing touch footy (on asphalt), playing brandings (think of what sick kid humour chose that as the name) we knew who were athletes and who wasn’t.

    There was no embarrassment, no trauma, no triggers. The sports carnival was a day outside the class room giving each other shit after our events. It was fun.

    I can’t help feeling the degree of resilience, boisterousness, rough and tumble that kids are not getting today.

    They will not grow up happy.

    They will grow up blaming people for their unhappiness – parents, teachers, school counselors etc.

  116. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    The Inter-School Athletics Carnival was the social high point of the year.
    All that yummy fresh skirt!
    It was always a tight competition, but the Perth Modern School girls invariably won the popular vote.

  117. JC

    Ivory bar soap

    That’s the one. Last week Mater picked me up for suggesting P&G owned Dove. How could I have been so confused.

  118. JC

    Frank, STFU.

    PG is one of my holds forever stocks. I will never release it into the wild. Buffet, I think, started buying this stock in the 60s when it was trading at about 1 buck. It’s now trading at ~118 bucks. Not including divs, this stock has been compounding at 9.5% over the past 53 years. Add in divs and it’s possibly motored along at 12%. This is extraordinary. It makes soap!

  119. JC

    Bounce fabric-softener sheet for dryers.

    This is their best product by far.

    Just kidding.

  120. Mater

    That’s the one. Last week Mater picked me up for suggesting P&G owned Dove. How could I have been so confused.

    I thought I was pretty gentle, actually.

  121. Rockdoctor

    Polar blast coming my way, shudder. May even drop into single figures over the weekend out our way for a few hours round dawn…

    As for the hubris I have seen today on the interwebs between my pers admin requirements prior to heading out, fake news is the politest I can be about it. 130km/h winds at Frankston, would like to know where they got that from BOM wipes about 40km/h off it at max gust, sustained 50-70km/h. In fact the only places I could see that had gust crack 3 figures was Wilsons Prom and an offshore station in Port Phillip near Rosebud that maxed out at 111km/h still some 20 below the claimed speed. I was on a flight that landed at Melbourne Airport a couple of years ago on a day where the airport actually had gusts to 120km/h (another story hell of an approach but smoothest touch down ever experienced), the sky didn’t fall then & it certainly wont now.

  122. JC

    Mater, if you pay no attention, the packaging is really similar.

    Dove

    Ivory

  123. Mater

    Mater, if you pay no attention, the packaging is really similar.

    You’re right…if you pay no attention. 😉

    I’m not sure I’ve ever seen Ivory Soap in Australia, though.

  124. JC

    I think we used that brand in the US.

  125. Frank Walker from National Tiles #3127397, posted on August 9, 2019 at 4:41 pm

    Ok. I will remove the tampax from my first kit.
    What do you recommend as a replacement?

  126. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    What do you recommend as a replacement?

    Didn’t Prince Charles once express some views on that?

  127. Twostix

    NSW members of parliament cheering and dancing as they rush through legislation for open slather abortion. The ABC wymynses newsreaders and reporterettes are moist with excitement about the prospect of aborting more babies. They can barely contain their joy. The rest of the country just sleep-walks into this degeneracy.

    Like I said the other day: the future belongs to those who show up.

    Also these mass of spinsters are banking a lot on us teaching our sons and daughters to carry them for zero benefit.

    What I mean is that the Victorian’s had the right attitude about such things.

  128. JC

    You gotta fucking laugh at these loons.

    And finally, from Australia — the craziest climate land of all — we have an entry from Joanne Nova on August 8. You are undoubtedly aware that a key element of saving the planet consists of promoting so-called “zero emissions vehicles,” otherwise known as electric cars. California, for example, makes the promotion of ZEVs a focus of its “climate” efforts. Obviously, we’ll never save the planet as long as cars burn gasoline and spew their carbon emissions right into the atmosphere.
    Unfortunately, sales of ZEVs in Australia have been hampered by large and completely uninhabited grid-free areas where, it goes without saying, there are no charging stations. An example of such a large area is what they call the Nullabor, between Adelaide and Perth, a distance of about 2000 empty miles. Even the longest range ZEVs need multiple charges to get across this stretch.

    What’s the answer? A guy named John Edwards has just come up with the perfect solution, which he calls the ChargePod. Here is a picture:
    diesel-generator-ev-charger-m.jpg

    Yes, it is a transportable electric charge station attached to a diesel generator.

    From Edwards:

    To close the gap from Clare in SA to Perth in WA, 14 stations approx 200 km apart are needed to create a highway eVs can use. Until the highway is created the eVs crossing will remain at less than 10 per year.. a number that governments, businesses and investors can not get excited about. So in my humble view the way to get 14 stations in place to create a highway – is to assemble 14 ChargePods and stick them out there.

    H/T Manhattan Contra

  129. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Ok. I will remove the tampax from my first kit.
    What do you recommend as a replacement?

    A successful US lawyer and real estate speculator once used cigars when his secretary couldn’t afford hygiene products.

  130. Geriatric Mayfly

    At 3C. the Plains of Sodom are on the cusp. Snow warms to this temperature and below.

  131. calli

    Australia is the epicentre of Blair’s Law.

    Which is only fair.

  132. calli

    In case you don’t know.

    “the ongoing process by which the world’s multiple idiocies are becoming one giant, useless force.”

  133. zyconoclast

    Living off the grid and driving an electric car is this former farmer’s idea of heaven

    Sylvia Wilson and her now late husband Rod wanted to prove a point when they decided to live off the grid and convert their property to solar power.

    “We’ve got 44 [solar panels]altogether now — except if there’s a long wet week, I’m fine,” Ms Wilson said.

    Before Mr Wilson’s death in 2017, curiosity also drove the couple to buy an electric car online.
    “And of course we’d never sat in one and never drove one, and 10 weeks later it turned up on the back of the truck.

    In 2018, Ms Wilson embarked on a 20,396-kilometre road trip around Australia — a journey she had wanted to do since buying the car.

    “It was 110 days and most of the places we stayed were very happy for us to charge the car there.”

    In total, she spent $150.90 on electricity for the car during her three-and-a-half-month trip.

    “There’s been a couple of cyclonic influences that have made it overcast for five or six days, I’m lucky here that we’ve got other power on the property,” she said.

    “I can plug in somewhere else so it doesn’t bother me.”

    Since buying the car in 2016, Ms Wilson said infrastructure had improved dramatically.

    “Shopping centres right up and down the coast now have two Tesla destination chargers,” she said.

    “Because I have solar I generally charge the car during the day — if I charge it at night, I just have to watch that I don’t deplete the [house] batteries too much.

    “Because of my lifestyle, I’m not going to work every day. A lot of people charge at work.”

  134. None

    I am on record on this blog saying Qantas better give up all the worksheet and start concentrating on their business because there have been far too many close calls lately. And here’s another one.

    Air traffic controllers at Sydney Airport will be questioned over a close call involving two Qantas aircraft on Monday.

    after Qantas for the first time in about 10 years recently a client paid the fair and I couldn’t change Airlines and I was appalled. Not only do they have this really fukwit it safety video that no one remembers except to think about how f****** idiotic and expensive it must have been to make it you had airline hostess is asking 80 year olds in the emergency aisle if they were fit and capable of helping in an emergency and despite them asking the hostie to repeat her questions a couple of times because they were f****** death they just not at all yeah yeah as if these frail octogenarians would be capable of other following instructions or lifting a 20 kilo door when told. On the other side we have some other moron fukwit who decided he wanted to keep his earpods in despite repeated requests to listen. And yet these people would be partly responsible for the safety along of a cabin full of people who have no idea what the air safety video is about being directed by a bunch of Wimpy limp-wristed stewards who don’t know how to boot people off an emergency aisle. You don’t want to wish an airline crash on your worst enemy but Quaint Arse needs to get its head out of its sphincter and start concentrating on its core business.

  135. Nick

    FWIW, I’ve heard from a source that Clarkson will go to Carlton. I’ve no idea as to when

  136. zyconoclast

    JC
    #3127434, posted on August 9, 2019 at 5:36 pm
    You gotta fucking laugh at these loons.

    From 2010
    …The prices paid for green energy were so high that it appeared to be profitable to generate that energy by shining conventionally fuelled arclights on the solar panels.

    But finds truth to be stranger than fiction:

    Although the exact details are slightly different there is now an intriguing report of the scam in practice. The text is based on a machine translation of the original German text:

    After press reports, it was established during inspections that several solar power plants were generating current and feeding it into the net at night. To simulate a larger installation capacity, the operators connected diesel generators.

    “This is just the tip of the iceberg,” said one industry expert to the newspaper “El Mundo”, which brought the scandal to light. If solar systems apparently produce current in the dark, will be noticed sooner or later. However, if electricity generators were connected during daytime, the swindle would hardly be noticed.

  137. Top Ender

    “Because of my lifestyle, I’m not going to work every day. A lot of people charge at work.”

    Talk about “go woke, go broke”.

    Except it’s the businesses that will go broke if they allow free electric charging for all, as their electricity bills will skyrocket.

    Except they won’t, Sylvia Wilson, as being successful business people they will charge you for the power, you idiot!

  138. notafan

    I wonder what power Sylvia uses when solar is working?

    Nuclear, hydro or perhaps a diesel generator?

    What does she farm?

  139. Top Ender

    Good rant None!

    I trust you have sent it to the Leprechaun in charge of Qantas?

  140. notafan

    Couldn’t help but notice her children flew to join her from time to time.

    Self-indulgent nonsense, in other words.

    Sylvia’s story

  141. Nick

    after Qantas for the first time in about 10 years recently a client paid the fair and I couldn’t change Airlines and I was appalled.

    What ?

  142. Eyrie

    “We don’t have a justice system.”
    Oh, but we do. It is called the Criminal Justice System.
    It is right there in the name.

  143. Bruce of Newcastle

    So in my humble view the way to get 14 stations in place to create a highway – is to assemble 14 ChargePods and stick them out there.

    What’s the bet all 14 would mysteriously vanish not long after installation. Very hard to stop expensive generators, helpfully mounted on skids beside a highway in the middle of nowhere, from growing legs and wandering off.

  144. Top Ender

    Time to pile on Cats!

    Here is the ABC Complaints section:

    https://www.abc.net.au/contact/complain.htm

    and here is my complaint:

    This article:

    https://www.abc.net.au/contact/complain.htm

    is so biased it is detrimental to those of us who want to see solar used more across Australia.

    It says: “Because of my lifestyle, I’m not going to work every day. A lot of people charge at work.” Except it’s the businesses that will go broke if they allow free electric charging for all, as their electricity bills will skyrocket.

    Except they won’t give free “novelty” power away in the future forever, as being successful business people they will charge people for the power.

    The same as caravan parks or similar will also charge people in the future.

    And a large number of electric cars will put enormous strain on the present electricity grid, as cars will get their energy from that, rather than the present grid of petrol stations. The article should acknowledge this, and discuss where that power could come from. For example nuclear.

    The article is so obviously propaganda it works against what it is trying to achieve.

    See what I did there?

  145. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Very hard to stop expensive generators, helpfully mounted on skids beside a highway in the middle of nowhere, from growing legs and wandering off.

    Not to mention the diesel fuel, and the tank containing it.
    Almost certainly also conveniently skid-mounted.

  146. Some History

    Hear ye! Hear ye!
    The Pirate to the Starsz has indicated that Mrs Pirate has an article on her shallow, lucrative life in the media:

    https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/rumours-ratings-and-red-carpet-showdowns-lisa-wilkinson-opens-up-20190731-p52cme.html

  147. Entropy

    How is Pell doing I wonder. The judges must have the shits he hasn’t died of old age yet and they might have to issue a judgement.

  148. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Syliva is a bullshit artist.

  149. mh

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3127397, posted on August 9, 2019 at 4:41 pm
    Full list. Procter & Gamble brands.

    DON’T BUY THEM!

    The CPA are really woke.

    Strangely, so are the American Physical Society…

    Anyway, here is a list of P&G products & brands:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Procter_%26_Gamble_brands

    Dishwashing

    Dawn dishwashing liquid
    Joy dishwashing liquid
    Gain dishwashing liquid
    Ivory dishwashing liquid

    Menstrual hygiene

    Always menstrual hygiene products
    Tampax tampons
    Whisper menstrual hygiene products

    Haircare

    Ascend hair care products
    Aussie haircare (shampoos/conditioners/styling aids)
    Braun hair care and grooming products
    Frederic Fekkai hair care products sold
    Head & Shoulders shampoo
    Nicky Clarke hair products
    Pantene hair care products (purchased from Hoffmann-La Roche in 1985)
    Vidal Sassoon haircare products (purchased in 1984 from Vidal Sassoon)

    Healthcare products

    Align probiotics
    Crest toothpaste
    Femibion (acquired from Merck Group)
    Fixodent denture adhesive
    Iliac/Nasivin (acquired from Merck Group)
    Scope mouthwash
    Metamucil laxative/fiber supplement (acquired G. D. Searle & Company in 1985)
    Neurobion (acquired from Merck Group)
    New Chapter dietary supplements[3]
    Pepto-Bismol over-the-counter drug for minor digestive system upset (acquired as part of Norwich Eaton Pharmaceuticals in 1982)
    Prilosec OTC (licensed from AstraZeneca)
    Sangobion (acquired from Merck Group)
    Seven Seas (acquired from Merck Group)
    Vicks cough and cold products
    Swisse

    Household

    Ace stain remover liquid
    Bounce fabric-softener sheet for dryers.[4]
    Cascade dishwasher detergent
    Fairy (known as Dreft in the Netherlands) dishwashing liquid, toilet soap, household soap, laundry detergent and dishwasher detergent
    Febreze odor control
    Flash cleaning product
    Jar dishwashing liquid and dishwasher detergent
    Joy dishwashing liquid
    Mr. Clean household cleaners
    Puffs tissues
    Luvs disposable diapers
    Safeguard antibacterial soap brand[5] marketed by Procter & Gamble, introduced circa 1965. Safeguard soap is marketed under the brand name Escudo in Mexico.[6]
    Tide detergents
    Swiffer cleaning products

    Laundry detergents

    Ariel laundry detergent
    Bold laundry detergent
    Bonux laundry detergent
    Cheer laundry detergent
    Daz laundry detergent
    Downy fabric softener
    Era laundry detergent
    Dreft laundry detergent
    Gain laundry detergent
    Ola laundry soap
    PMC laundry soap
    Tide laundry detergent
    Lenor laundry detergent

    Skin care

    Fresco bar soap
    Ivory bar soap
    Olay skin care products (acquired in 1985 as part of Richardson-Vicks Inc.)
    Old Spice aftershave, skin care and hair care products (acquired
    Secret antiperspirants and deodorants

    Thank you

  150. Top Ender

    Some reviews out of new film on Long Tan, Danger Close:

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/danger_close_2019

  151. JC

    Yep, Brett Stephens in the NYTimes supporting Boris. Yep, I know he writes for the Times, but I like him and that’s that!

    On Britain:

    I’m rooting for him, third, because the United States not only needs Great Britain. It needs Britain great.

    One of the frequent criticisms of Johnson and other Brexiteers is that, like Victorians born a century late, they have an exaggerated sense of the U.K.’s significance. Yet for all of its relative decline, Britain has four of the world’s 10 best universities, the fifth-largest economy, the fourth-largest navy (by tonnage), and a globally deployed military. It is second only to the U.S. in Nobel laureates, just as London is second only to New York as a global financial capital. Its literary and artistic scenes remain fecund and globally influential, and its political leaders, until dismal Theresa May, always punched above their weight.

  152. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Well, I just took it from wiki and the brands are the US ones, not all of the Australian ones…

  153. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3127436, posted on August 9, 2019 at 5:38 pm
    At 3C. the Plains of Sodom are on the cusp. Snow warms to this temperature and below.

    Gas heater failure.
    Maintenance man can’t get there until next week.
    I have retreated to the heated city penthouse (aka bedsitter).

  154. JC

    mh

    Joy is a dish washing liquid. Stop using it for showering.

  155. Top Ender

    Half of the reviews of Danger Close have a go at the film for not featuring enough questioning of the war, rather than depicting it accurately:

    Tellingly, there’s not a single moment in Danger Close depicting the Australians even bothering to query why they’re there. In fact there’s a moment when Major Smith (Travis Fimmel) of the Delta forces meets with Brigadier Jackson (Richard Roxburgh) to ask if he can return to work with professionals rather than this random mixture of conscripts and volunteers. This may as well have been a musing from the mouth of Col. Kurtz (Marlon Brando) in Apocalypse Now. Danger Close‘s script begged for an interaction that paused to ask: “Why are our mates dying HERE? Why are we killing these people?”

    Maybe the director was mindful of “go woke, go broke.”

  156. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Fuggit

    I don’t know how good that movie is but the critics just seem very twee and looking for any excuse to bash a war film.

    Orchestrated on an impressive scale, the movie nonetheless feels both familiar and diffuse, with thinly sketched variations on a bronzed theme rather than characters — appropriately enough for a film that aims to burnish a legend. A procession of Aussie stars make up the cast, led by Vikings leading man Travis Fimmel as the soldier in charge of an Australian army unit that finds itself surrounded by Viet Cong in the abandoned village of Long Tan. Saban Films picked up North American rights last month

    While the film’s brutal and unflinching battle scenes are superbly crafted with an intensity that’s truly unsettling, the thinly-drawn characters leave little impact in a piece of cinema let down by its overreliance on tired clichés and generic war movie tropes we’ve seen dozens of times before. .

    the result is a war movie both impassioned and generic; often, despite the film’s palpable sense of importance at bringing such an under-sung skirmish to the screen, it feels impassioned about remaining generic. …if shedding light on a significant military moment in such a template-like manner isn’t an inherently winning formula.

    As technically proficient as it is, and as occasionally emotional as it gets, it doesn’t have any real staying power. It doesn’t carry the kind of iconography that has kept Gallipoli in the cultural zeitgeist, or the tightly-wound prowess of Dunkirk, or even the emotionality of Peter Jackson’s They Shall Not Grow Old. It sticks all too closely to war cinema norms, right down to the stupefying cliché of only giving characters depth just before they leave the picture permanently, and when it reaches its peaks, they still don’t make for much more than being ‘okay’.

    Danger’s filmic style lacks specificity in its sound and images

    The film’s one female character, singer Little Pattie (Emmy Dougall), performs on stage for the troops, which ensures music is relevant to the story. Though after successfully being extracted from danger, she never features again in the narrative

    WTF? Little Pattie ought to have been Captain Marvel?

    And yet, the question beckons: why in 2019 are we revisiting Vietnam? It’s clear that the USA and its allies (namely Australia) dove headlong into a deep existential crisis throughout the Vietnam conflict. The problem is that in 2019, sprawling and swarming hoards of nameless waves of Asian enemies attacking a morally certain ANZAC force feels deeply problematic.

    Wanker. Leftist, elitist wanker.

  157. Leigh Lowe

    Interesting on the Gillette financial implosion.
    They explained that they were looking to position themselves with younger customers.
    OK. A reasonable objective for any consumer products company.

    These days, with social media advertising channels they could run a very targeted social media campaign at millennials, whilst preserving their traditional marketing campaigns for older customers.
    But no.
    Their methodology to attract millennials was to create a confrontation between millennials and their parents.
    Dumb as dogshit.
    This had nothing to do with marketing of products and everything to do with the small cabal of execs at P&G and their advert agency getting lots of pats on the back from the wokerati.
    Fuck the customers.
    Fuck the shareholders.
    The story must be told.

  158. Old School Conservative

    Just heard that chains are needed from Jindabyne to the ski fields.
    That doesn’t happen very often.

  159. Old Lefty

    Interesting Pell-related news on the Pell front from Gerard Henderson’s Media Watchdog. The High Court has refused the Victorian DPP’s application for leave to appeal agaisn the appeal court’s overturning of the convictions of Br Tyrell, an elderly Christian Brother convicted on charges as feeble as those against Pell.

    Needless to say, no reporting on ABC or Nine_Fairfax. Nor is the Victorian OPP telling anyone on its Twitter page, which it of course used to crow over the Pell conviction and to congratulate the Andrews government on its re-election by retweeting a self-congratulatory press release form Andrews (see OPP Twitter page on 28 November 2018) – as if the public need the OPP to tell them.

  160. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Their methodology to attract millennials was to create a confrontation between millennials and their parents.

    Their ad had a black dude cockblocking, talking down to and physically assaulting his white mate for admiring a beautiful white woman.

    It was intentionally divisive.

    Woke idiots are trying to salve their guilt they feel by controlling what everyone else does or what they think we ought to do.

  161. Old School Conservative

    Old Spice is so 80s.

    So much so, the shaving mugs are becoming collectors items.

  162. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Just heard that chains are needed from Jindabyne to the ski fields.

    Great stuff but we might see some floods in Spring in SE Australia.

  163. Geriatric Mayfly

    Nor is the Victorian OPP telling anyone on its Twitter page, which it of course used to crow over the Pell conviction

    Isn’t Milligan’s mate a most upright and learn’d member of that outfit?

  164. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    You have founded the “Me Neither” movement. “I don’t use Gillette products anymore.” “Me neither!”

  165. cohenite

    Little old dingbat ladies from extinction rebellion bother Matt Canavan while he’s eating his lunch:

    https://www.facebook.com/XRfnq/videos/vb.1437366196397235/2323100121110713/?type=2&theater

    FMD, these people are mad, enveloped in moral superiority they have no sense of doubt. What do you do with them, they’re dragging the West into the abyss.

  166. notafan

    Great news old lefty.

    Especially seeing as the appeal decision was based on a very relevant and binding high Court decision ( which has the same implications for Cardinal Pell) .

    Seems to me the opp decision to appeal was based on politics not facts or law.

  167. Geriatric Mayfly

    How is Pell doing I wonder. The judges must have the shits he hasn’t died of old age yet and they might have to issue a judgement.

    Please desist. Everytime someone here writes that I have to make another final act of contrition. George and I are the same age.

  168. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Wow

    I never realised what a complete and utter nutjob Charlize Thereon was.

    No wonder she could never get a husband.

    A truly vile misandrist fool.

    https://tinyurl.com/Anti-rave-ad-banned-1999

    https://tinyurl.com/CT-living-in-a-bubble

    https://tinyurl.com/The-real-world-hurts

  169. Shy Ted

    Triggs’ appointment to the UN is the perfect opportunity for ScoMo to markedly reduce what we send them. But he wouldn’t be ScoMo if he did. Sigh.

  170. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    What do you do with them, they’re dragging the West into the abyss.

    Well, given that they are only treading a well-worn path originally started by the Liberals in 2007, and fostered and promoted by them for over a decade ever since, I guess you could offer them free party membership.

  171. Rockdoctor

    Wow looking through the Nationals NSW profiles after the Abortion bill passed today with their support. No wonder they are hemorrhaging votes to the S&F Party in places. Khan comes across as one in the wrong party but wouldn’t get elected if he went with his heart & Labor. Pavey claims to have owned a small business, I can only find the CV of a media person who moved on to shoving her snout into the trough and there are a couple other MP’s who are very coy about their backgrounds. Almost all have no connection to the land after leaving the farm when flying the nest.

    Question for NSW Cats, is Gunnedah now the North West? Even Moree I wouldn’t consider North West. Just something I read on one of the profiles is the reason I am asking.

  172. DrBeauGan

    Little old dingbat ladies from extinction rebellion bother Matt Canavan while he’s eating his lunch:

    https://www.facebook.com/XRfnq/videos/vb.1437366196397235/2323100121110713/?type=2&theater

    FMD, these people are mad, enveloped in moral superiority they have no sense of doubt. What do you do with them, they’re dragging the West into the abyss.

    Yes, they are mad as bedbugs. The problem is that these days you can be a raving lunatic and still. Lead a comfortable life. There are no penalties. Well, not until societal collapse, when we all go down together.

  173. stackja

    Rockdoctor
    #3127509, posted on August 9, 2019 at 7:19 pm

    To me, Bourke is a town in the north-west of New South Wales. Moree is a town in northern New South Wales. Gunnedah is a town in north-eastern New South Wales.

  174. Shy Ted

    Programme guide says there are 2 blokes on The Dumb panel. Blowed if I can spot them.

  175. Roger

    Interesting on the Gillette financial implosion.
    They explained that they were looking to position themselves with younger customers.
    OK. A reasonable objective for any consumer products company.

    Yeah, nah.

    Millennials are as politically polarised as any other generation since 1968.

    “Get woke, go broke.”

    As an alternative strategy, how about producing the best product at the best price?

  176. Muddy

    Historical illiteracy.
    This is a comment on a retail bookseller’s website for John Edwards’ second volume of his mythologising of wartime P.M. John Curtin:

    The writer portrays Curtain’s role as PM of the time well. He shows Curtain’s many good decisions and some bad ones. Curtain’s ‘turn to America’ was a masterstroke as was his recommending MacArthur as Supreme Commander thus keeping America interested in Australia. The majority of MacArthur’s Army was Australian for a long while. Most of Churchill’s promises were not worth much. Though Australian troops inflicted the first two defeats on Japanese troops in WWII at Milne Bay and Kakoda they were not as important as we make out today. Admiral King and the US Navy’s strategy of ‘island hopping’ was brilliant even though both the British and MacArthur would have liked to have more land battles. It was intriguing to contrast Australia’s defence plans against the Japanese plans in early 1942. Like the US, the Japanese knew that this would be a naval war. An excellent read though it might have scared most of the Australian Population in the Northern and Western sections of the country if read in early 1942. It’s good that good history is written much later. An excellent read.

    Where to start?

  177. stackja

    Serial killer Ivan Milat back in hospital
    The Sydney Morning Herald-2 hours ago
    Serial killer Ivan Milat has been admitted to hospital for the second time this year.

    Soon many babies won’t leave ‘hospital’ alive.

  178. stackja

    Muddy
    #3127516, posted on August 9, 2019 at 7:33 pm
    Where to start?

    Gavin Long’s series on WW2 at AWM.

  179. Roger

    Millennials are as politically polarised as any other generation since 1968.

    Cohort works better than generation.

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Where to start?

    Reviewed by Julia Gilliard and Paul Keating?

  181. DrBeauGan

    Yes, they are mad as bedbugs. The problem is that these days you can be a raving lunatic and still. Lead a comfortable life. There are no penalties. Well, not until societal collapse, when we all go down together.

    I guess they are really a bunch of stupid, ignorant old women who as a result of modern communications technology can easily share their neuroses. And manufacture their placards and video their idiocies.

  182. Davefromweewaa

    Rockdoctor.
    Gunnedah and Moree are both northwest as in west of the great dividing range. The weather district is called northwest slopes and plains.

  183. Rockdoctor

    Northwest slopes, makes more sense. Cheers…

    & thanks Stackja as well.

  184. Black Ball

    Beer, pizza and football. Can’t lose

  185. Geriatric Mayfly

    Not seen often. The Low pressure over the south east is a triple yolker. Best seen in several profiles on windy.com

  186. Tel

    I guess they are really a bunch of stupid, ignorant old women who as a result of modern communications technology can easily share their neuroses. And manufacture their placards and video their idiocies.

    Naaa, someone is paying the ratbags … classic rentamob.

    Old women … time on her hands … nothing to lose … bit of cash in hand.

  187. 1735099

    who as a result of modern communications technology can easily share their neuroses

    Obviously referring to Catallaxy, but forgot to add “paranoia” to “neuroses”.

  188. JC

    Frank

    She’s pretty decent looking. At the top of the league table. Give her a break. If she feels raped that’s the way she feels.

  189. JC

    Hey stack

    How’s the car going and do you like Kiwi fruit?

  190. Muddy

    stackja
    #3127520, posted on August 9, 2019 at 7:36 pm

    Thanks, Stackja. Perhaps I wasn’t clear with my question: I meant where to start with the critique of that reader’s review.

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3127522, posted on August 9, 2019 at 7:39 pm.
    Better still : ‘Kev’ from Gatton. Onya Kev, you illiterate twat.

    On that topic, I received a copy of Australia’s Secret War by Hal Colebatch and The Break-up of Australia by Keith Windschuttle last week. I haven’t read the latter yet, but a skim through the former appears promising, though the author’s grasp of the military side of things is a bit rudimentary. Colebatch presents a surprisingly empathetic portrait of Curtin, while still emphasising Labor’s anti-Australian activities. Eddie Ward is rightfully excoriated.

  191. It’s Remarkable

    This way of labelling various parts of NSW is due to the centre of the state having to be Sydney, ‘cause that is where all of the elite’s and serious governmental types live, rather then the actual geographic centre – you know somewhere like Dubbo or in fact Condobolin, which as I recall is actually very near the true geographical centre of the state.
    Therefore everywhere west of (say) Penrith is called something with the word ‘west’ in it. Orange is ‘central west’, when geographically it is central-east. I have even heard Lithgow labelled as ‘central west’, FFS.
    Those of use who live in country NSW have got used to it, but it annoys the hell out of me to hear places like Tamworth to be declared north west, when they are darn near on a similar longitude as Sydney.
    Probably never be changed, but a nuisance we have to put up with.

  192. MatrixTransform

    Until the highway is created the eVs crossing will remain at less than 10 per year

    fact check… true

    zero is less than 10

  193. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Eddie Ward is rightfully excoriated.

    Eddie Ward was “the Socialist firebrand of East Sydney” who claimed, in 1938, that Australia was in no danger, and called for the Royal Australian Navy to be disbanded, and the money spent on welfare.

  194. Some History

    For anyone interested.

    Jazz fusion.

    Jeff Lorber (keyboard) – Surreptitious

  195. JC

    Automation may be creating more thieves.

    As reported, this is what can happen.

    “A 2015 study of self-checkouts with handheld scanners, conducted by criminologists at the University of Leicester, also found evidence of widespread theft. After auditing 1 million self-checkout transactions over the course of a year, totaling $21 million in sales, they found that nearly $850,000 worth of goods left the store without being scanned and paid for. The Leicester researchers concluded that the ease of theft is likely inspiring people who might not otherwise steal to do so…. As one retail employee told the researchers, ‘People who traditionally don’t intend to steal [might realize that] … when I buy 20, I can get five for free.’ The authors further proposed that retailers bore some blame for the problem. In their zeal to cut labor costs, the study said, supermarkets could be seen as having created ‘a crime-generating environment’”

    That reminded me of what Charlie Munger said in his talk on “The Psychology of Human Misjudgment”: “[P]eople who have loose accounting standards are just inviting perfectly horrible behavior in other people. And it’s a sin, it’s an absolute sin. If you carry bushel baskets full of money through the ghetto, and made it easy to steal, that would be a considerable human sin, because you’d be causing a lot of bad behavior, and the bad behavior would spread.”

  196. Rockdoctor

    Labeling is interesting, there is a definite creep recently in Queensland of what is considered north, far north & central despite the realities on the ground.

  197. 1735099

    the author’s grasp of the military side of things is a bit rudimentary.

    Colebatch’s grasp of historical fact is also less than rudimentary as revealed by his work of fiction Australia’s Secret War.
    He’s a twice-failed Liberal candidate for the state seat of Perth, (1977 and 1993).
    A text book case of SOL.

  198. Steve trickler

    This is a hoot! You can’t help but laugh.



  199. JC

    This piece has a point. There is probably some life in the universe and there may even be lots of it, but human-like life would be likely very rare because of the delicate balancing act that is required in order to sustain it.

    Get a load of these little fuckers.

    Tardigrades might be the toughest creatures on Earth. You can put them in a laboratory freezer at -80 degrees Celsius, leave them for several years, then thaw them out, and just 20 minutes later they’ll be dancing about as though nothing had happened. They can even be cooled to just a few degrees above absolute zero, at which atoms virtually stop moving. Once thawed out, they move around just fine. (Admittedly, they aren’t speed demons; the word ‘tardigrade’ means ‘slow walker’.) Exposed to superheated steam – 140 degrees Celsius – they shrug it off and keep on living. Not only are tardigrades remarkably resistant to a wide range of what ecologists term environmental ‘insults’ (heat, cold, pressure, radiation, etc), they also have a special trick up their sleeves: when things get really challenging – especially if dry or cold – they convert into a spore-like form known as a ‘tun’. A tun can live, if you call their unique form of suspended animation ‘living’, for decades, possibly even centuries, and thereby survive pretty much anything that nature might throw at them. In this state, their metabolism slows to less than 0.01 per cent of normal. Compared with them, a deeply hibernating mammal is living at lightning speed.

    That’s interesting because a few tardigrades actually exist right here at the Cat.

    https://aeon.co/essays/extremophiles-and-life-in-the-most-unlikely-of-places

  200. Some History

    Snowing at the Giants-Hawthorn game in Canberra.

  201. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I know JC.

    She was pretty much physically perfect in The Devil’s Advocate.

  202. Geriatric Mayfly

    Eddie Ward was “the Socialist firebrand of East Sydney”

    Parliament was invariably dominating the airwaves in the farm house, once the battery fired radio had all its valves aglow. Even as a kid I remember Menzies giving old Eddie many a good whack around the ears, and back he would come for more.

  203. Old Lefty

    notafan
    #3127504, posted on August 9, 2019 at 7:10 pm

    Great news old lefty.

    Especially seeing as the appeal decision was based on a very relevant and binding high Court decision ( which has the same implications for Cardinal Pell) .

    Seems to me the opp decision to appeal was based on politics not facts or law.

    Got it in one!

  204. 1735099

    Eddie Ward was “the Socialist firebrand of East Sydney” who claimed, in 1938, that Australia was in no danger, and called for the Royal Australian Navy to be disbanded, and the money spent on welfare.

    But as history reveals, it took a Labor PM to stand up to Churchill in 1942 when the rotten old drunk was quite prepared to sacrifice Australia to the Japanese whilst demanding that Australian troops defend the Empire to the last drop of colonial blood, much as he did at Gallipoli .

  205. Fisky

    I may not have been paying full attention but was massive abortion law “reform” ever canvassed or debated in the recent NSW elections? I don’t think it was. And it is rather strange that the NSW Liberals are knifing the ethnic religious voters who saved their government, so soon after an election. This stinks.

  206. Tel

    Until the highway is created the eVs crossing will remain at less than 10 per year

    That’s because EV’s are fundamentally unsuitable for such a purpose.

    I tell you what weirds me out: if you took a cross section of the total number of vehicle trips being done, almost all of them would be in the city, and most of them would be short distance … kids to school, fetch some shopping, commute to the office, drive to the train station, pick up take-away dinner, off to the gym, or sports center … that sort of stuff. So there’s clearly a very good market for short range electric vehicles that only need to have two seats and a bit of luggage space.

    With this sort of situation, charging isn’t a problem because you are generally going to charge at home or at work. You don’t need a lethal “fast charger” that starts Lithium fires. You don’t need much in the way of top speed because you aren’t trying to win any races and city traffic goes at a snail’s pace if you are lucky. There’s a brilliant market for a small, CHEAP, two-seater, city runabout, which is slow, lightweight, and runs on electric.

    So what do the eco-loons deliver to us? Large, heavy, expensive, touring cars that no one buys, except a handful of people attempting to prove a point that electric is better than hydrocarbon fuel in all cases for every purpose. They choose the least favorable application of a technology … then shit themselves when it doesn’t work … or make up excuses and come to the conclusion that it’s actually perfectly reasonable to be stopping for an hour charge time every 200km … finally appeal to government because we could be “proud” if more people were stupid enough to attempt to use an electric vehicle to cross a long, empty stretch of road across the most empty piece of Australia.

  207. Gab

    Fisky true to form the Libs carry on their move further Left thinking that leftards will vote for them. They never learn.

  208. candy

    The folk who steal in supermarkets are not limited to “ghetto” type people. I think you will find perfectly abled people satisfactorily placed in life will steal too – simply because they can.

    People do illegal/wrong stuff – simply because they can and feel they get away with something. One might be surprised at the demographics of people stealing at the self serve checkout.

    Anyone waltzing through a ghetto with a basket of cash would be an idiot with a death wish though.

  209. custard

    You’ll all know where to find it, just go and have a listen to tonight’s episode of Te Dum.

    Listen to Matt Schlapp the organiser of this weekends CPAC conference.

    He Schlapped the panel around big time. It was a joy to watch.

    Lefty heads will be exploding everywhere.

  210. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    JC

    The known universe has a radius of 46 bn light-years.

    The whole universe is at least 250 times that in volume, and possibly infinite.

    That’s at least 9.64 x 10^29 km^3.

    At least nearly one quadrillion quadrillion km cubed in volume.

  211. Rockdoctor

    Fisky a mate sent me an email today link to 2gb, apparently Alan Jones made allegation today the deal was done with this Clover Moore clone before the election.

  212. Leigh Lowe

    At least nearly one quadrillion quadrillion km cubed in volume.

    Can you give us that in cubic cubits?

  213. JC

    Candy

    I dunno much supermarkets (I went into one in NYC), but if you walk out of the store without something being tagged for sale, wouldn’t the siren buzz as you leave at the doorway?

  214. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Almost one thousand million million million million million million cubic metres JC.

    At a minimum based on our current knowledge.

    I would not bet on anything with that sort of probability space.

  215. JC

    Frank

    Sure, but why is that a lot? What perspective does one use to suggest the whole of the universe is a big place? It looks big to us, but that doesn’t mean much in the whole scheme of things. My humble view is that we’re the only ones around. Sounds depressing, but think of the upside, like an only child who thinks it’s great not having to share shit.

    Imagine all the crap we’ve got we can use if we’re alone and don’t have to share. Having said that I’m sure a Bob Brown type would rise up and berate us for depleting the universe’s finite resources.

  216. candy

    I dunno much supermarkets (I went into one in NYC), but if you walk out of the store without something being tagged for sale, wouldn’t the siren buzz as you leave at the doorway?

    I don’t know, jc. I don’t steal and don’t work at a supermarket.
    But I know some people will do wrong/illegal stuff simply because they can and want something for free and it’s across all demographics.

  217. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Here you go JC

    Is Anybody Out There? (Alien Life Documentary) | Spark

    Has a lot of interviews with the SETI Gang.

  218. JC

    I would not bet on anything with that sort of probability space.

    It looks dead to me.

  219. dover_beach

    I may not have been paying full attention but was massive abortion law “reform” ever canvassed or debated in the recent NSW elections?

    The same happened in Queensland and Victoria too under Labor when they rushed through abortion ‘reform’.

  220. Geriatric Mayfly

    At least nearly one quadrillion quadrillion km cubed in volume.

    And what is the energy output? And for what purpose?

  221. JC

    Well Frank, technically there my be life off the earth. Apparently we placed some microbes on the moon a while ago and they could still be alive.

  222. Geriatric Mayfly

    Is Anybody Out There? (Alien Life Documentary) | Spark

    It’s in Joe Biden’s election pledge. He’s going to let us know if elected.

  223. Bruce of Newcastle

    So there’s clearly a very good market for short range electric vehicles that only need to have two seats and a bit of luggage space.

    Not much of one.
    Women with kids want a Chelsea Tractor because safe, and to get through the scrum at 3:15 pm.
    Young wymminses who buy Nissan Micras and whatnot won’t like the technical bits, plugging in chargers etc.
    Older men aren’t stupid.
    Young men wouldn’t be seen dead in one, nothing in the world telegraphs “soy-boy wimp” better than driving around in a small EV.
    So the market is exactly the same market as it has been for the Nissan Leaf.
    Greens with that ole time Gaia religion.

  224. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Assuming the laws of physics and chem are the same everywhere (the evidence suggests this is true), then we might see life in quite a few places, probably being carbon-based and having convergent evolution with us.

    The funny thing is maybe we’re being watched but we’re just boring and lame. Imagine seeing the Kardashians for the first time. “They” will think we’ve kidnapped a few of their own.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_television

    (It is actually quite interesting to see how long people have been working on television).

    So we’ve been transmitting stuff since 1928. 91 lights years away maybe just be starting to receive our transmissions.

    More and more exoplanets are discovered every few weeks, in previously thought “quiet and dark” bits and bobs of the galaxy.

  225. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Young men wouldn’t be seen dead in one, nothing in the world telegraphs “soy-boy wimp” better than driving around in a small EV.

    You have to maximise on the lemons life gives you.

    “1987 Daihatsu Handivan, 890,000 km, driven hard but well maintained”

    Quite a few may have had Maccas trays put under the rear wheels in suburban parking lots.

  226. JC

    Assuming the laws of physics and chem are the same everywhere (the evidence suggests this is true), then we might see life in quite a few places, probably being carbon-based and having convergent evolution with us.

    Please stop using that word. Carbon is evil.

  227. Some History

    Short, insightful article from Snowdon.

    The smoking ban miracle revisited

    https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2019/08/the-smoking-ban-miracle-revisited.html

  228. JC

    Bruce
    The uptake of ev’s is moving up very quickly. I’ve told you before, most cars in the world do no more than 25K per day. People (westerns) are also wealthy enough to afford them.

    You really do have a blind spot with some stuff.

    One time you had the audacity to compare your tiny skeletal Skoda to a Tesla concluding the Tesla was miles more expensive than your car. You refused to accept there are market segments

  229. JC

    History

    The smoking ban miracle revisited
    Remember this, from 2013?

    The number of children admitted to hospital with symptoms of asthma has fallen since the ban on smoking in enclosed public places came into effect, a study has found.

    Research shows there was a 12.3% fall in admissions in the first year after the law was introduced in July 2007, and these have continued to drop in subsequent years, suggesting that any benefits of the legislation have been sustained.

    The claim was a lie and the study was junk science, as I showed at the time. Stanton Glantz was one of the authors. Nuff said.

    His name sounds an unfortunate body organ.

  230. Steve trickler

    The potential for life elsewhere?



  231. Some History

    The claim was a lie and the study was junk science, as I showed at the time. Stanton Glantz was one of the authors. Nuff said.
    His name sounds an unfortunate body organ.

    In anything to do with Stanton Glantz, the key word is “unfortunate”. A fair bit of information on Stantonitis Glands here:

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2018/04/09/monday-forum-april-9-2018/comment-page-1/

  232. Tel

    Women with kids want a Chelsea Tractor because safe, and to get through the scrum at 3:15 pm.

    There’s a perception of safety but high center of gravity cars end up getting rolled over quite often, especially when packed full and driven by people who expect and off-road car to handle like a road car. Might be difficult to explain that to some people … let Darwin do the talking I suppose *shrug*.

    Young wymminses who buy Nissan Micras and whatnot won’t like the technical bits, plugging in chargers etc.

    They plug in the vacuum cleaner don’t they? What’s the difference?

    Older men aren’t stupid.

    Stupid in what way? I don’t actually want to drive from Adelaide to Perth … there is utterly no reason anywhere in my life for me to make such a journey. I’ve been across once and back in a beat up old VW van and that’s plenty … more than plenty actually that’s once too many times. If anyone was thinking about it, take my advice and buy an airline ticket.

    Young men wouldn’t be seen dead in one, nothing in the world telegraphs “soy-boy wimp” better than driving around in a small EV.

    When I was young, I was happy to have any car, cost was the only factor, and something simple enough to do my own repairs and find plenty of spares at the local wrecker. My penis can do it’s own talking thank you very much … the car is for transport.

    I see lots of young men and women driving things like the Nissan Cube which isn’t even on sale new in Australia, but people happily import them as a great city car with the ability to move gear around if you want. Sure there’s a share of hoon cars around too, but don’t presume everyone wants the same thing. Some guy in my area drives a mirror finish gold plated Lamborghini … and it probably goes with the business he is in … he probably only wants exactly that and nothing else, so if you are a manufacturer then don’t compete in those areas where the customer has already made up his mind.

    The Nissan Leaf is smallish but really still falls into a category where it’s too big, too heavy and too expensive. I was looking at buying one but AUD 50k is way more than I’m parting with. I don’t need four seat capacity, I don’t need a big boot space, I don’t need long distance or heavy lifting.

  233. calli

    Shorter Dot:

    Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space.

    🙂

  234. Bruce of Newcastle

    JC – Teslas are not a “short range electric vehicles that only need to have two seats and a bit of luggage space”. A Tesla is a prestige marque. The psychology is not there for tiny EVs, for the reasons I outlined. The market segment that fits small EVs are qwerties and greens. In that segment the negatives of small EVs become positives: virtue signalling, inner city parking and no travelling where you might be squished by a truck or a SUV. That isn’t a large demographic no matter what the ABC might like to propagandize.

  235. calli

    There is also the possibility that we are unique.

    And that, too, is sobering.

  236. Tel

    JC – Teslas are not a “short range electric vehicles that only need to have two seats and a bit of luggage space”.

    That’s correct, they are big, heavy and expensive and attempting to compete with the red Ferrari or gold plated Lamborghini so obviously they will fail in that market.

  237. JC

    That’s correct, they are big, heavy and expensive and attempting to compete with the red Ferrari or gold plated Lamborghini so obviously they will fail in that market.

    No it’s not. They’re much cheaper than a Ferrari. Also, their SUV is coming in a US$35,000 in the US.

  238. 132andBush

    Beat me to it, Calli. 🙂

  239. Leigh Lowe

    mh

    #3127592, posted on August 9, 2019 at 9:14 pm

    Louisiana Woman Claims Meth Hidden Inside Her Vagina Is Not Hers

    Hard to argue she doesn’t have possession.
    Title is another question.

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