CPAC Australia first day an astonishing success

The first day of Australia’s first Conservative Political Action Conference was an astonishing success. I cannot tell you what a satisfying day it was, full of interest and surprise, even where I didn’t expect to be surprised. I will only hit what stood out for me, so if I leave out The Reunion of the Outsiders, for example, it’s only because they were precisely as insightful and entertaining as I thought they would be. It really is irritating to be reminded how cowardly Australian television was in not being able to keep all three together for a nothing bit of TV of a Sunday morning once a week.

Tony Abbott came next, who reminded me once more how the most philosophical and potentially among the great Prime Ministers of this country was sandbagged by a narcissistic incompetent without any of the ability of the man he replaced. He discusses what he saw as the essence of conservative leadership, “pragmatism, based on values”. I also thought the advice he gave his daughter when she took up a post in the Australian embassy in China was exceptional. Don’t spend your time learning about China. There are lots of experts on that. Learn about Australia: “You must know about us.” He fears, and I think rightly, that the traditions of the West “are no longer holding their grip”. And he repeated John Howard’s definition of a conservative: “people who do not believe themselves morally superior to their grandparents.”

Warren Mundine and Jacinta Price provided an Indigenous perspective, similar in their outlook but very different in their focus. Both, as I heard them, provided the same lesson: Indigenous Australians need stop dwelling on whatever wrongs may have been done to their ancestors since nothing from the past can be changed, but should instead look to creating the kind of future that can be made for themselves embedded as they are within a Western nation from whom they have a lot to learn given the people with whom they share this continent with.

We also heard from the founder of CPAC in the United States who discussed PDT and American politics generally with a Republican Congressman from Tennessee. An hour of back and forth with among my favourite bits the discussion of “The Trump Whisper”. This is when someone would ask him to come close because they wanted to say something to them – usually, he would think, because they wanted to complain about something in private – but then would say to him, in this very quiet voice, “I really like Trump.” Easy to believe, given how viscious the left is, but, as he noted, it is a problem all the same.

They were followed by Judge Jeanine who was even more entertaining live than she is on Fox. Spellbinding. Terrifying.

Not last nor least, but the surprise feature speaker was Raheem Kassam, whose prominence was brought to the front when Kristine Kenealy tried to get his entry-visa denied. A very impressive speaker, filled with insight, humour and philosophical detail about an issue of the greatest importance – radical Islam – of which he had much of interest and value to say. He also said this, which was an interesting perspective on how times change, that Enoch Powell, yes that Enoch Powell, had taught classics at the University of Sydney when he had been 24 years old, and amongst his students had been Gough Whitlam. No problem getting a visa then, and GW studied classics!

Congratulations to Andrew Cooper for pulling this off. Then tomorrow there is still Nigel Farage to start off the day and then, of course, followed by Sinclair.

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48 Responses to CPAC Australia first day an astonishing success

  1. The Pugilist

    Meanwhile, today, Philip Lowe gave us his 3-point plan for growth.
    1. Quantitative easing
    2. Public sector wage rises and
    3. White elephants
    Let’s all reflect on that…we are rooted

  2. None

    Well it’s very good that you’re chowing down on some good red meat but I hope that this translates into some organisation and action. If you are all committed enough to attend such a conference I hope you are committed enough to maintain the rage in places where it matters. Thanks for the update; enjoy the rest of it.

  3. stackja

    So leftists are the problem?
    I am shocked!
    K K gets MSM coverage.
    Just ignore the left and let Australia grow.

  4. The inevitable Ross Cameron quote from Marcus Aurelius, as well as other great leaders of the past, was a nice touch to the “Outsiders” session in the morning.

  5. Some History

    Could someone ask Craig Kelly about his obscene comment (reflecting government policy) that… “you’ve got to make lepers of those that smoke… make their lives horrible”.

    The man [Craig Kelly] leading federal parliament’s investigation into illicit tobacco is a rabid anti-smoker.
    “I can’t stand cigarettes,” says Liberal MP Craig Kelly, chairman of the joint committee on law enforcement. “When it comes to fanatical nonsmokers, they could give me a badge.”
    “I have grave concerns that we’re trying to attack this issue through taxation,” Kelly says. “Like many things we do in government, the unintended consequences can be worse than the problems we’re trying to overcome.”
    The Gillard government introduced plain packaging in 2012 and dramatically escalated tobacco excise, implementing yearly rises of 12.5 per cent each September 1 for the next four years. The Turnbull government extended the annual excise hikes in this year’s budget until 2020.
    Despite his concerns, Kelly acknowledges price should still play a role.
    “You have to have some price pressure,” he says. “You have to have the strongest possible law enforcement. You’ve got to make lepers of those that smoke… make their lives horrible.”

    So Kelly is a rabid antismoker (i.e., prohibitionist) that thinks it’s the government’s job to turn smokers into “lepers”, their lives made horrible by an ever-growing raft of government punitive measures. If that’s not appalling enough, Kelly is a Liberal…… you know, small government, individual autonomy. Then there’s “glass houses….. rocks”. Kelly is fat. What would he think of making life horrible for fat people?
    Here’s a picture of tubby Kelly, the finger-wagger:
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/people-will-die-due-to-renewables-turnbull-government-mp-craig-kelly-20170712-gxa78z.html

  6. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    With people like Craig Kelly, the Liberal Party is done and dusted.

    Vale.

  7. mh

    Sounds good, I might go to the next one. Make sure you highlight it in advance.

    Raheem Kassam with some mates

    https://images.app.goo.gl/df1n83JEsLb5BEsq7

  8. stackja

    SH – SMH reports on subjects always reliable?

  9. a reader

    Kelly lost me when he spent days demanding that the gay marriage bill be modified but in the end voted for the unmodified legislation. he was better than the labor bint they put up at the election but i still only put him 3 of 6. Animal Justice, Greens and Labor had to go behind him

  10. Some History

    SH – SMH reports on subjects always reliable?

    Hi stackja.

    Kelly’s quote is not from the SMH (the SMH link is to a photo of Kelly). The quote is from the following link which is now behind a paywall:
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/health/2017/09/23/curbing-the-illicit-tobacco-trade/15060888005254

  11. Some History

    The quote is from the following link which is now behind a paywall:

    There’s one week free reading. The quote does appear in the article. All the more reason for someone to ask Kelly about that quote.

  12. Some History

    The quote is from the following link which is now behind a paywall:
    There’s one week free reading. The quote does appear in the article. All the more reason for someone to ask Kelly about that quote.

    Kelly would have to be admired for at least being honest about what’s going on. What else could we make of the ever escalating barrage of punitive measures directed at smokers supported by all political parties and usually led by Labor. Other politicians are cowards. While they are stigmatizing and robbing smokers, they masquerade the assault as “helping smokers”.

  13. stackja

    SH – Saturday Paper a reliable source? I am skeptical of most MSM seeking to represent supposed views of non-leftists.

  14. Some History

    SH – Saturday Paper a reliable source? I am skeptical of most MSM seeking to represent supposed views of non-leftists.

    Maybe you could join me in requesting that Kelly be asked the question? 🙂

  15. Some History

    SH – Saturday Paper a reliable source? I am skeptical of most MSM seeking to represent supposed views of non-leftists.

    By their fruits you will know them. The glibs policy on tobacco tax, for example, is exactly the same as the Labor Camp. EXACTLY.

  16. P

    I was smoking cigarettes before Craig Kelly was born. Cigs were the best thing for me. I continued for 53yrs. Roxon ended that. This is not ideal for me. It’s nicotine I crave.
    I wonder today how it is that some person elected as a politician can decide what is best for me.
    I will turn 80yrs in 6mths time and I have never used my private health insurance nor have I been ill.
    My life may be shortened, as they say, from my smoking habit but how long do those that say this expect me to live? Or should I wait till I’m 99yrs like my grandmother and die in a nursing home?
    I pay $238.25 per month for my private medical insurance. I joined MUIOOF health insurance in 1955 and have continued to pay into it, which BTW is now HCF.

    I do not know the answers to any of these questions.

  17. Nob

    My mother in law smoked heavily until she was 75 and died recently died aged 97.
    No dementia or anything until the last couple of weeks.

    My mum was very fit, didn’t smoke or drink, and dropped dead at 55.

    There’s a lot of fluffing about percentage of risk.

    Percentage of what, compared to what?
    Vs what benefits?

    Too many people being funded by actual value creators to enjoy their preferred perversion of interfering with others who just want to be left alone.

    I don’t smoke and I don’t like smoking but I have no wish to persecute smokers because I’m not a fascist.

  18. Occupy Centrelink

    Nob

    #3127729, posted on August 10, 2019 at 5:56 am

    I don’t smoke and I don’t like smoking but I have no wish to persecute smokers because I’m not a fascist.

    Ditto. I did briefly say hello and shake hands with Craig Kelly yesterday. If I knew about the smoking quote, maybe I would have avoided him and treated him like … um … a leper?

  19. Robber Baron

    Kelly like the overwhelming majority of MPs truly believe they are smarter and superior to all other Australians. The evidence of their superiority is that we have some of the highest taxes in the world, the government remains deep in debt, my neighbors used to be called Kel and Reg now they are called Ranjit, Mahmood, Xi and Eduardo, it takes me 3 times longer to go to work than it did 10 years ago and CO2 continues to rise.

    Kelly and his creepy mates can go pharque themselves. The sooner the chinks nuke Canberra the better we will be.

  20. Some History

    For anyone attending the Conference, a question (privately, informally) for Tony Abbott along the same lines.

    For the 2013 election, Dudd announced that if Labor won, it would introduce a 12.5% increase in tobacco excise for the next 4 years, i.e., 4 x 12.5%. The glibs were [reasonably] outraged by the measure. Yet within a week or so, the glibs, tails between their legs, fronted the cameras and announced that they would do the same if elected. Not some variation of the Labor policy but the exact, same policy. Here’s a cartoon at the time, Dudd with Abbott in tow.

    https://imgur.com/bN27Gac

    For the 2016 election we got the same thing. Labor announced that if it won, it would introduce another 4 x 12.5% increases in tobacco excise for a total of 8 x 12.5%. Again, the glibs were reasonably outraged. Then within a short time, tails between the legs, indicated that if the glibs won, they, too, would introduce the exact, same policy.

    For someone looking on, it seems that our political class is being dictated to by outsiders, e.g., the WHO, operating through the government bureaucracy.

    Ask Abbott why the glibs capitulated on both occasions and adopted the exact, same, obscene, regressive tobacco tax policy as the Labor Camp.

  21. candy

    It sounds like it was very interesting and even ‘diverse’ but cohesive philosophies. And entertaining.

    Tony Abbott is a fascinating person with his philosophical views, that’s for sure. There is no-one like him.
    I wonder if he holds some bitterness towards the LNP? They seemed to desert him when fighting for Warringah. I still hold the view PM Morrison wanted him to lose so he could be rid of the philosophical conservatives. He felt he was tainted by Abbott.
    None of my business but it always seemed the Abbott ladies deserted TA from after the 2013 election – never saw hide nor hair of Mrs Abbott or the lovely daughters. It would not surprise if they support SSM and climate change and are much more left aligned than conservative. People in the same family can go such different ways.

  22. Mark M

    SMH: A mix of political civility and conservative rhetoric aired at Sydney conference –

    “Finally though as the sun set the day one headliner, Judge Jeanine Pirro, a Trump fan, former prosecutor and Fox News fixture, appeared and began to throw out the red meat, as they say at American political events.

    In the first minute or so of her unscripted but clearly well-worn address, she described Hillary Clinton as “that hag” that the Democrats “tried to drag across the line” at the last US presidential election, but it wasn’t until she got to immigration that she really hit her straps.

    The event continues on Saturday.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/a-mix-of-political-civility-and-conservative-rhetoric-aired-at-sydney-conference-20190809-p52fpt.html

  23. Kassam was on a 7 morning show today and at least they gave him some air time, though they tried their best to get him on an old tweet, as if no one on the Left ever says anything similar. Generally the Left does exactly the opposite, especially wish and encouraging the of worst ill will, including wishing death, upon their opponents.

  24. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Lawyers aren’t that bad after all.

  25. Tel

    Too many people being funded by actual value creators to enjoy their preferred perversion of interfering with others who just want to be left alone.

    It’s bullying really, isn’t it?

    Constantly pestering people until they are stressed and ready to go apeshit. I’m sure that those kind of annoying people always interfering with others are responsible for more early deaths and more wasted lives than any drug you care to name.

  26. Roger

    Tony Abbott came next, who reminded me once more how the most philosophical and potentially among the great Prime Ministers of this country was sandbagged by a narcissistic incompetent without any of the ability of the man he replaced.

    Great opposition leader, fulfilled two major promises as PM and then, let’s face it, floundered on the back of his worst decision – making Hockey Treasurer.

    In his defence he had a mostly perfidious parliamentary party to contend with.

    Meanwhile, most of the Australian msm is labelling CPAC an “extreme right wing conference”. Are they even in attendance?

  27. Meanwhile, most of the Australian msm is labelling CPAC an “extreme right wing conference”. Are they even in attendance?

    Anything that’s not Left is extreme right wing as far as the Left is concerned. Have you ever heard the MSM refer to anything as moderate, moderate right or conservative?

    You can’t refer to anyone or any thing that’s not of the Left in any terms that might be construed as not being extreme. Of course there is no such thing as extreme Left.

  28. Roger

    bemused,

    And that would be because journalists have all been through the Leftist sausage machine of a modern university education where they have been taught not how to think but what to think.

  29. Percy Popinjay

    Collectivism by its very nature is extremist.

  30. Roger

    Collectivism by its very nature is extremist.

    Indeed.

  31. Muddy

    Meanwhile, most of the Australian msm is labelling CPAC an “extreme right wing conference”.

    Visualise the Nike logo.
    At the base are the solid, dependable, caring people. The trustworthy, ‘grounded’ ones.
    As the eye travels toward the tail, it becomes narrower in focus and more distant from the ground level, therefore less caring, etc.
    Now visualise an invisible line not far to the right of the fulcrum point. Anything to the right of that line is ‘far right’ or ‘extreme right.’
    Our opponents see themselves as the broad, grounded base of that Nike logo, the weighted portion of the tick of ‘progress.’ The anchor.
    We are the tail that must be kept narrow and unsupported, lest the vision become unbalanced and topple. If that tick topples, it simply becomes another broken line, with the break likely between the former anchor and the former long tail, both on the same level, competing for attention.

  32. Lee

    Meanwhile, most of the Australian msm is labelling CPAC an “extreme right wing conference”. Are they even in attendance?

    Anything that’s not Left is extreme right wing as far as the Left is concerned. Have you ever heard the MSM refer to anything as moderate, moderate right or conservative?

    If those morons (including in the MSM) could go in a time machine back to Germany in the period 1933-45, they would come back to the present (assuming that they survived) truly shocked and with their tails between their legs, appalled that they ever thought that more than a tiny minority in Australia is “extreme-” or “far-” right wing.

    What were considered mainstream views probably less than twenty years ago are now considered “far-right” by many even on the moderate left.

  33. Elderly White Man From Skipton

    Indigenous Australians need stop dwelling on whatever wrongs may have been done to their ancestors since nothing from the past can be changed, but should instead look to creating the kind of future that can be made for themselves embedded as they are within a Western nation from whom they have a lot to learn given the people with whom they share this continent with.
    A man who needs to get out more.

  34. Iampeter

    Aside from Sinclair are there any non-leftists at this event?
    What’s Tony Abbott talking about? His years of support for environmentalism and the policies destroying this country?
    What’s Nigel Farage talking about? How he creates one, single-issue party, then starts again, because what else is he going to do? He doesn’t know anything about politics.

    And so on…

    Tony Abbott came next, who reminded me once more how the most philosophical and potentially among the great Prime Ministers of this country was sandbagged by a narcissistic incompetent without any of the ability of the man he replaced.

    LOL, never gets old reading support for Abbott and then hatred for Malcolm Turnbull, even though the latter is just a more honest and consistent version of the former.
    One of the most philosophical? Abbott? A man who has spent his entire life in politics and has never demonstrated any understanding of the subject, nor any coherent ideology. Get real.

    What conservatives really need to have a conference about is learning the basics of politics so they don’t sound like a bunch of incoherent nationalists and statists. Or a bunch of senior citizens sounding like teenage SJW’s.

  35. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Blacks have been given and recognised as having the same rights as everyone else for over half a century.

    Most of their problems are caused by themselves, the soft bigotry of low expectations and sit down money.

    Pauline was inarticulate, but she was correct.

  36. Dr Fred Lenin

    A peacefull crowd of concerned taxppaying ctizens protestec against this meeting of international fascist capitalist supporters , plotting to subvert the march towards world globalist socialism with democratic unelected government ,in the EU model , they wish to thank the beloved benevolent mr soros for his financial aid in this worthy anticapitalist oeacefull protest . Mire are planned as long as r soros keeps the money coming .
    Im applying for a job at NYT how do you think I will go ?
    Australian corespondant for the New York Times be on QA every week wont I .

  37. candy

    Or a bunch of senior citizens sounding like teenage SJW’s.

    Just asking Iampeter but are you at the conference? I’m not sure journalists etc are able to record or videotape speeches either because it is a private event and not a party political event.

  38. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    One of the most philosophical? Abbott? A man who has spent his entire life in politics and has never demonstrated any understanding of the subject, nor any coherent ideology. Get real.

    Another example of why we should seriously think about sortition.

  39. Iampeter

    Another example of why we should seriously think about sortition.

    How would that solve the problem of total philosophical and political illiteracy?

  40. Some History

    Who is lamepeter?

  41. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    How would that solve the problem of total philosophical and political illiteracy?

    You’ve got a solution for that?

  42. Tom

    Who is lamepeter?

    Bog standard loudmouth leftist troll trying to pretend he isn’t.

  43. Iampeter

    You’ve got a solution for that?

    What conservatives really need to have a conference about is learning the basics of politics so they don’t sound like a bunch of incoherent nationalists and statists. Or a bunch of senior citizens sounding like teenage SJW’s.

    Who is lamepeter?
    Bog standard loudmouth leftist troll trying to pretend he isn’t.

    At the Cat, capitalists are “loudmouth leftist trolls” while those who support regulating trade, immigration, tech companies…are what? Capitalists? Right wingers? Not “bog standard leftist trolls?”

    Only at the Cat!

  44. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Asking you for a solution for a problem you say others cannot solve…sorry Peter I can’t understand how that is trolling. The problem you identify is real and means people vote for horrible things like socialism and sacrificing their liberty for the apprehension of security.

  45. Iampeter

    Asking you for a solution for a problem you say others cannot solve…sorry Peter I can’t understand how that is trolling. The problem you identify is real and means people vote for horrible things like socialism and sacrificing their liberty for the apprehension of security.

    I didn’t format my response properly. My “trolling” response was at others.

    I’d already answered your question in my post and so I was just quoting it again:

    What conservatives really need to have a conference about is learning the basics of politics so they don’t sound like a bunch of incoherent nationalists and statists. Or a bunch of senior citizens sounding like teenage SJW’s.

  46. mh

    Who is lamepeter?

    He is not Australian, that we know. The other day he described Scott Morrison as our Head of
    State.

    I was beginning to think he was living in San Francisco, but he thought the US Fed Reserve had rates set at zero or below. So who knows.

    IamBeta certainly has too much time on his hands to keep posting the same thing over and over again. Trollbot?

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